Verdict with Ted Cruz - Southern Poverty Law Center FUNDS the Klan, plus UCLA Law Students Silence Conservatives

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00:00:04.520 Welcome.

00:00:05.160 It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:08.300 It's nice to have you on radio stations listening around the country.

00:00:11.420 And Senator, I do love that I have the upper hand, the advantage tonight,

00:00:15.880 and the level of energy at this show,

00:00:18.480 because you just did like an all-nighter on a voter-rama in the Senate.

00:00:23.140 How much fun was that?

00:00:24.680 I just want to know.

00:00:25.500 Did you all hang out, spend time together?

00:00:28.020 Tell me how that went.

00:00:30.000 listen ben i recognize that you're a young guy and and so your strength peters out after a while

00:00:36.640 but you gotta understand when you're in the battle yeah in the battle yes a long battle yes we were

00:00:43.280 on the senate floor until 4 a.m last night uh we were doing voter rama now what is voter rama

00:00:49.220 voter rama is what the average age in the senate's like 90 so like how did that work yes so i'm the

00:00:55.200 teenager they they think i have acne i mean you got to understand it's all relative bringing the

00:01:01.700 snacks like how did like you know i'm just curious like did you order the late night pizza or does

00:01:05.960 someone else i i'm the comedic relief which tells you how much trouble we're in but so we were in

00:01:13.520 reconciliation because it's the process that we're going to use to fund ice and and customs

00:01:20.140 of border patrol because the democrats want to shut down our border permanently and reconciliation

00:01:25.180 is the major exception from the filibuster which means we can do it with just republicans but

00:01:31.420 when you do it you do unlimited amendments so you do it's called a voterama and so the democrats 0.99

00:01:36.560 kept us there till four in the morning casting lots of stupid votes and the votes are typically 1.00

00:01:41.440 you hate children you hate kittens you hate puppies you're against rainbows i mean i mean 1.00

00:01:48.300 all sorts of votes and so they did that till four in the morning and then we were done 0.98

00:01:51.640 however i am damn skippy and i and i can't help it if you if you think

00:01:57.920 you know what if you were here we'd play hoops right now and i'd take you to the hole i i believe

00:02:05.320 so i here's my real question when you guys are till four in the morning and these people that

00:02:09.280 you work with are like 80s and 90s do they sleep in their office and then like someone has to

00:02:14.580 physically wake them up to walk them down to vote how does like how do the logistics of this work

00:02:18.820 and do you guys still wear your coat and tie or is it like pajamas no no it's all coat and tie

00:02:24.400 okay very some people stay on the floor some people stay in the cloakroom some people stay

00:02:29.500 so there's a room one floor down from from where the senate floor is called the inner sanctum

00:02:35.300 and it's senators only and you sit in there and you have like cheese and crackers and a glass of

00:02:41.080 wine and it's actually bipartisan and so a good chunk of the night like while you're waiting for

00:02:45.480 votes to finish you sit down there and and and talk and and basically talk smack so no card

00:02:51.660 playing i was kind of hoping for some like card playing they wouldn't let you have a poker because

00:02:55.860 that would have woken you up i know you well um i am actually flying to vegas this weekend so as

00:03:01.980 you know every year we do a poker fundraiser and this weekend is the poker fundraiser we get a

00:03:08.560 number of poker pros to come out and play. And it is a lot of fun. I like to play poker. And

00:03:14.800 it is our poker fundraiser in Vegas two years ago was the birth of the Trump accounts.

00:03:22.380 And so, but we did not play poker on the Senate floor.

00:03:26.700 All right. I got my money. I got my money against you this weekend,

00:03:29.880 just knowing the lack of sleep that you've had. I want to be clear. I'm going to leak that out

00:03:33.400 to the pros out there. I think you're going to be one of the first ones out, have to rebuy back in.

00:03:38.560 So, Ben, you're demonstrating exceptionally poor judgment.

00:03:42.400 And that leads me to ask, were you an investor in the Southern Poverty Law Center?

00:03:45.940 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right. Exactly.

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00:05:59.840 benefits come alive. All right, Senator, so let's get into the Southern Poverty Law Center. It was,

00:06:06.200 let's just be clear, a group that was supposed to stop the Ku Klux Klan, but instead they decided 0.69

00:06:12.100 to fund the Ku Klux Klan. That was just one of the many like bigoted racist groups that they decided

00:06:18.080 to actually raise money from people claiming were trying to stop hate while actually funding the

00:06:23.500 hate so they can then raise money off of the funding of the hate and get a return on their

00:06:28.700 investment. It's like a Ponzi scheme. You can't make it up. This story is one of the most

00:06:34.280 astonishing stories. So the Southern Poverty Law Center has made a business for decades,

00:06:40.020 a business convincing people, convincing liberals, convincing American corporations,

00:06:47.060 convincing just ordinary Americans that there are these vicious, racist America that need to be

00:06:52.140 fought and their business and understand the southern poverty law center raised hundreds of

00:06:57.800 millions of dollars to fight these racists what happened this week the department of justice

00:07:04.200 indicted them indicted them for money laundering and the evidence i i could not have made this up

00:07:12.600 the southern poverty law center was funding the very bigots and racists that they claim to be

00:07:18.640 fighting so for for example here's a here here's a story in the daily signal the spLC was paying

00:07:25.640 the ku klux klan doj indictment claims the southern poverty law center has raised money for decades

00:07:31.640 claiming to dismantle white supremacy but it funneled millions of dollars let me repeat that

00:07:38.320 millions of dollars to white nationalist groups including the ku klux klan according to the

00:07:46.020 federal indictment handed down Tuesday. The SPLC claims it was funding informants inside

00:07:51.800 the extremist groups. While the SPLC, quote, purports to fight white supremacy and racial

00:07:57.900 hatred, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch said in a press conference, quote, the SPLC was not

00:08:03.980 dismantling those groups. It was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to

00:08:10.280 oppose. Blanch highlighted one example from the indictment where the SPLC paid a member of the

00:08:16.000 leadership group that planned the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017.

00:08:24.180 It is stunning.

00:08:26.080 Liberals funding bigots in order to raise money to fight the bigotry they're funding.

00:08:31.840 There was a lot in the indictment that came out, but there's one theme that Cash Patel

00:08:37.420 made very clear as he was on Sean Hannity's show.

00:08:40.540 He made it real simple what this is about and why they were indicted.

00:08:45.000 Here is Cash Patel in his own words.

00:08:47.860 Money doesn't lie.

00:08:49.300 The charity that supposedly fought the Klan funded the Klan.

00:08:53.380 The charity that supposedly fought neo-Nazis funded neo-Nazis.

00:08:58.020 The Southern Poverty Law Center ran a methodical calculated scheme to defraud their donor base of $3 million and lied to them

00:09:06.820 and used an illicit banking structure system to create shell companies to hide their money

00:09:12.800 and who it was being sent to specifically for the reason to sow discord and hate into our society.

00:09:20.040 This is the ultimate definition of hypocrisy.

00:09:22.840 And if you look at the indictment produced by the Department of Justice and the FBI,

00:09:26.540 you will see that these banking institutions tie directly the funding mechanisms

00:09:30.920 in which the Southern Poverty Law Center used to fund at least eight hate groups

00:09:35.520 they supposedly wanted to take out, but they were paying the very villains of our society

00:09:39.940 they supposedly wanted to protect us from. 0.93

00:09:42.800 That's the ultimate hypocrisy.

00:09:45.020 By the way, one of the things that I think is really interesting about this is there were warning signs for like quite some time.

00:09:53.240 John Stossel, back in January 16th of 2018, he did an expose on warning Americans about the Southern Poverty Law Center and how it used to have like, in theory, like a good theme.

00:10:07.860 It used to be about, hey, we find hate groups and we name them and we expose them and we out them.

00:10:13.700 And then it just turned into a radical left organization where Democrats could throw their money.

00:10:19.780 And when they threw their money in there, it would just basically attack conservatives and anybody on the hit list, which turned into, by the way, Turning Point USA.

00:10:29.580 It turned into Christian groups as well.

00:10:31.900 groups that they named individuals like laura ingram for example as one of those threats to

00:10:37.060 america through the southern poverty law ceremony that's they were doing that back in 2016

00:10:41.520 well and and look it was not just liberals that were funding them it was corporate america

00:10:47.080 that they did an amazing job of extracting millions of dollars from giant corporations

00:10:52.540 and they'd say look we're going to fight hate we're going to fight extremism and they were

00:10:57.100 rabidly partisan they attacked conservatives we knew that but the latest piece of this indictment

00:11:02.760 i i gotta say a week ago ben i don't know about you did you have on your bingo card

00:11:07.120 the southern poverty law center funding the kkk funding the nazis no no like there's a level of

00:11:15.360 cynicism yeah yeah and the donations are corporate donations like apple tim cook a million bucks

00:11:22.680 jp morgan a million bucks jp morgan half a million mgm resorts a million like the they

00:11:29.420 were corporate america was giving money to them the same way they did to black lives matter for

00:11:34.560 example it was like oh this is just something we got to check a box yeah what do you need we'll

00:11:38.200 write you the check and they had unlimited funds coming in and then they used it to again come

00:11:43.660 after conservative and christian organizations and understand the charges here the indictment

00:11:48.840 charges the SPLC with six counts of wire fraud, aiming to obtain money via donations through

00:11:55.640 materially false representation and omissions about what the donated funds would be used for.

00:12:02.640 It charges the SPLC with four counts of false statements to a federally insured bank by creating

00:12:08.320 accounts for fictitious entities to funnel the money. Finally, it charges the SPLC with one count

00:12:15.760 conspiracy to commit concealment of money laundering. The Justice Department indictment

00:12:21.640 claims the SPLC directed more than $1 million to an affiliate of the National Alliance,

00:12:29.220 more than $300,000 to an affiliate of the Aryan Nations, more than $270,000 to a member of the

00:12:38.100 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017, more than $140,000 to a

00:12:44.900 former chairman of the National Alliance, more than seventy three thousand dollars to a former

00:12:50.860 Ku Klux Klan members and more than nineteen thousand dollars to the president of the American

00:12:57.780 Front. This was shameless and it was massive. Kash Patel said the FBI's investigation revealed

00:13:05.660 that the funds were used to facilitate the commission of further state and federal offenses

00:13:10.540 totaling more than three million dollars yeah the magnitude of this the depravity of this it's

00:13:19.740 staggering i want to play style so he did this again january 16 2018 he was warning uh the country

00:13:28.320 about the the southern property law center years ago saying they have lost their way they are not

00:13:33.480 what they say they are, take a listen to him exposing them back in the day.

00:13:39.760 There are dangerous hate groups in America who will warn us about them. The media have an answer.

00:13:46.760 The Southern Poverty Law Center, based in that building in Alabama, calls itself

00:13:55.080 the premier group monitoring hate groups. Looking at their map of such groups, you'd think America

00:14:02.580 was consumed by hate. I once believed in the center's mission. Well-meaning people still

00:14:08.220 do. Apple just gave them a million dollars. But what donors don't know is that today the

00:14:13.840 center smears people who don't deserve to be smeared. 0.89

00:14:17.840 The presence of radical Islam. 0.81

00:14:19.900 This woman grew up in Somalia, suffered female genital mutilation, so now she speaks out 0.75

00:14:25.500 against radical Islam. For that, the center put her on its list.

00:14:31.320 failed these communities this man was once an islamic extremist but then he decided radical

00:14:37.560 islam was wrong and now he criticizes the radicals the center labels him an anti-muslim extremist too

00:14:46.600 join the fight against hate and bigotry visit sblcenter.org i do think that we have a problem

00:14:52.360 with hate in this country we put about 10 of these major hate groups out of business the center's

00:14:57.480 leaders, Richard Cohen and Morris Dees, would not talk to me. So commentator

00:15:02.140 Namiki Kant stepped up to defend them. They have a history, a long history of

00:15:06.720 fighting against extremists like the KKK. Years ago, Harper's Magazine reported

00:15:11.520 that the center is the wealthiest civil rights group in America, one that spent

00:15:15.660 most of its time and money on a fundraising campaign. Now Morris Dees

00:15:20.880 did once promise to stop fundraising once his endowment hit 55 million dollars.

00:15:27.620 But when he reached $55 million, he changed that to $100 million,

00:15:31.440 saying that would allow them to cease costly fundraising.

00:15:35.600 But when they reached $100 million, they didn't stop today.

00:15:39.620 They have an endowment that now is over $320 million,

00:15:44.140 much of which is in offshore camps, Caymans and places like that.

00:15:48.000 How do you know?

00:15:48.920 Oh, we look at their 990s.

00:15:50.680 And it says Cayman Islands?

00:15:52.320 Yeah.

00:15:52.720 They pay some of their people more than $400,000 a year.

00:15:55.920 Senator, we played that warning from Stossel, and this warning from John Stossel was very clear.

00:16:02.540 Follow the money, and that was several years ago when he did that.

00:16:06.840 Now we see where the money was going and who was being defrauded.

00:16:10.640 Many of them were the donors.

00:16:12.520 Do you think people may actually go to jail for some of this?

00:16:16.100 Look, I hope that they do.

00:16:17.580 They were lying.

00:16:18.420 They were deliberately lying and taking the money and sending it to exactly the opposite thing they were claiming they were taking it for.

00:16:24.680 you know it's interesting the southern poverty law center their their business model

00:16:28.620 was saying we're going to fight hate we're going to fight racism but they decided there wasn't

00:16:35.020 enough hate and racism in the world so they needed to pay millions of dollars to the nazis

00:16:40.880 and the kukuk clan and other racist groups they paid 270 000 to the unite the right rally remember

00:16:49.040 that was the rally in charlottesville virginia yeah you you had the these young kind of nazi 0.52

00:16:54.540 looking aryan boys carrying tiki torches saying the jews will not replace us and the media went

00:17:01.800 crazy and said and blamed this all on president trump and if you remember joe biden literally said

00:17:07.360 the reason that he ran for president was because of the unite the right rally yeah because of that

00:17:13.020 moment and what is amazing is we now know that that rally was funded by leftists and and you

00:17:20.420 might say why why would why would these leftists ostensibly fighting hate be writing checks and

00:17:27.000 paying the nazis and the klansmen let me just give you a couple of stats what do you think the

00:17:31.340 revenue for the southern poverty law center was in october of 2016 what was it because october

00:17:37.560 2016 was when trump was running so keep yeah i'm getting keep going on this it was right before the

00:17:42.500 unite the right rally yep it was 51 million 871 438 dollars so 51 million that's real money

00:17:50.600 yeah what do you think the revenue was one year later october 2017 when trump was president what

00:17:57.140 was it after the unite the right rally it went from 51 million to 133 million 463 398

00:18:08.180 it more than doubled so it turns out the 270 000 that they sent to organize the united right rally

00:18:16.800 to put a bunch of racist bigots on tv more than doubled their fundraising there is a cynicism

00:18:23.940 there and you know what it's not just cynicism it's fraud which is why they've been indicted

00:18:28.280 well let me ask you one last question on this when when groups like this get busted this way

00:18:34.180 I still think the left will defend and protect them at all costs.

00:18:39.000 But is there any way that they actually could have broken so many laws that they could be forced to shut down and the Southern Poverty Law Center would cease to exist?

00:18:46.980 Or is that just wishful thinking?

00:18:48.780 Look, I think there's a very real possibility.

00:18:51.520 This indictment is serious.

00:18:53.060 This evidence is serious.

00:18:54.300 Now, there'll be a trial.

00:18:55.100 We'll see what the evidence shows.

00:18:56.280 But listen to this exchange between a reporter and Todd Blanche, the acting attorney general, on what the allegations, what the evidence are.

00:19:05.140 I just want to make sure I understand you're alleging that the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying the leaders of KKK and other groups to continue their operations.

00:19:17.920 Is that I'm not alleging it. The grand jury returned an indictment that says that.

00:19:21.420 And so what the investigation found, according to the indictment that was returned today, is that they were paying, so Southern Poverty Law Center is raising money, asking folks to give them money to dismantle racism.

00:19:34.760 And over a very long period of time, they were using some of the money they raised from donors to pay to they call them field, you know, basically to informants to for information, for access, to just pay them for for certain to do certain things.

00:19:53.660 And so, yes, that's exactly what the indictment charges.

00:19:56.740 I love the ways like that's not what I'm saying.

00:19:59.260 That's what the indictment and grand jury said here.

00:20:01.200 Like, this seems to be overwhelming evidence for a long period of time.

00:20:06.540 I noticed the words that he used there, the same words that Castro Tell used.

00:20:10.380 This wasn't like a one-off.

00:20:12.060 And this is, I think, what the media has tried to cover.

00:20:14.060 It's like, well, it was just kind of like a one-time thing.

00:20:16.640 This was not a one-time thing.

00:20:18.420 It was over years.

00:20:19.560 This was their entire business structure was fund the people we say we hate, raise money off their hate when they go out there.

00:20:26.220 And we'll help them organize.

00:20:27.340 We'll even help book their travel.

00:20:28.760 We'll help book their hotel rooms.

00:20:30.080 That was what was happening, for example, in Charlottesville.

00:20:32.960 For years, for decades, this was going on.

00:20:36.320 And understand, corporate America was responsible.

00:20:38.740 You know how much Apple gave to the Southern Poverty Law Center?

00:20:41.960 Yeah, how much?

00:20:43.040 One million.

00:20:44.160 Yep.

00:20:45.760 JP Morgan, $500,000.

00:20:47.620 That's a lot of money.

00:20:48.580 That pays for a lot of informants, as they described it.

00:20:50.500 And I got to say, you and I both have Apple phones. 0.76

00:20:53.080 Did you know when you bought your Apple phone that you were funding the Ku Klux Klan? 0.70

00:20:56.240 Did you know that you were funding the Nazis? 0.60

00:20:58.440 Yeah, I did not.

00:20:59.460 That's what we now know because – and listen, do I think Tim Cook woke up and said, I want to fund the Nazis?

00:21:07.060 No.

00:21:07.940 I think he didn't care.

00:21:09.100 I think he wanted a virtue signal, and the Southern Poverty Law Center appealed to his instincts of we're going to fight hate and the cynicism of the grifters at the SPLC. 0.59

00:21:20.640 We're going to take your money, but the problem was they found there wasn't enough racist hate to justify their fundraising, so let's pay people.

00:21:29.040 to be even worse so then we can raise more money yeah we need and by the way just and that's called

00:21:36.620 fraud maybe yeah maybe i'm cynical but like when was the last time apple bought an ad on a

00:21:41.680 conservative station or a conservative radio show or conservative podcast when was the last time jp

00:21:46.780 morgan chase did the same thing my point maybe never maybe never yeah and that's the point here

00:21:52.500 is like you and I have joked about this for years.

00:21:55.940 What Democrats have at their disposal

00:21:58.860 to fund their propaganda

00:22:00.660 are the blue chip companies of Wall Street.

00:22:03.820 None of them will touch a conservative show,

00:22:07.040 broadcast, funding of a movie,

00:22:08.760 or anything like that.

00:22:10.380 It's all done when the Reagan movie came out.

00:22:13.500 Nobody in normal America would touch it.

00:22:16.240 Great movie.

00:22:17.020 No one would touch that

00:22:18.220 because it was about Ronald Reagan,

00:22:19.600 by the way,

00:22:20.000 who's a very popular former president.

00:22:22.260 You would think that Hollywood would get behind that because, if I remember correctly, he was one of their own.

00:22:27.100 He was an actor, and he tried to root out communism in California back in the day.

00:22:32.100 But they won't touch it, but by golly, they'll send it to the Southern Property Law Center

00:22:36.100 as long as they name people like Megyn Kelly and Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA

00:22:40.740 and any other conservative group as a hate group, which is what they've been doing over the last several years.

00:22:45.760 Okay, don't forget Ben Carson and Charlie Kirk. 0.90

00:22:48.320 Yes, because Ben Carson is a famed white supremacist.

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00:24:19.580 Which brings us, by the way, to another point I want to talk about on the show.

00:24:23.980 And you talk about this type of lawfare.

00:24:27.340 You have decided to write another book.

00:24:30.200 This will be news information and people listening on the radio.

00:24:32.480 and this is a book that is a really cool project with a sitting Supreme Court justice who's just

00:24:40.660 a few years away from being the longest sitting Supreme Court justice in history and you got

00:24:45.340 exclusive access to sit down with him for your new book Going Further. You can pre-order it right

00:24:50.880 now at goingfurther.com. This is about Clarence Thomas and you're the author and it's a really

00:24:57.360 cool project of yours. Well, I'm really excited about this. So in my 14 years in the Senate,

00:25:03.480 I've written four books. This is my fifth book. Each of the books we've written have been

00:25:09.460 New York Times bestsellers. This one is a book that I think really needed to be written. And so

00:25:16.440 a year and a half ago, I went to Clarence Thomas, I went to his chambers, and Justice Thomas and I

00:25:21.880 have been friends for 30 years. And I sat down with him and I said, listen, I really would like

00:25:26.720 to tell your story. I'd like to tell your story on a big stage. I'd like to get people to hear

00:25:31.800 Clarence Thomas, his journey is inspirational. He grew up in abject poverty. He grew up in

00:25:39.620 Pinpoint, Georgia. He grew up not speaking standard English, and he came from nothing.

00:25:45.540 He rose. He rose academically to Holy Cross, to Yale Law School. He rose to serve in the

00:25:52.400 Reagan administration. He rose to serve as a court of appeals judge. He rose to serve as only the

00:25:57.780 second African-American Supreme Court justice in history. And understand, Clarence Thomas had a

00:26:02.920 journey where before he was a conservative, he was a left-wing radical. He was an angry black man. 1.00

00:26:09.520 Those are the terms he used. He was involved in riots at Harvard when he was at Holy Cross and 0.95

00:26:15.840 and at yale he he was he he started off as a leftist and then he realized the folly of his way

00:26:24.140 and as you noted in 2028 clarence thomas will become the longest serving supreme court justice

00:26:32.240 in the history of america now he wrote a fantastic yes he wrote a fantastic autobiography

00:26:39.680 called my grandfather's son that describes how his grandfather raised him and and it's incredible

00:26:46.840 but and i recommend it to everyone but my grandfather's son ends when he's appointed

00:26:51.300 to the spring court and so what i've attempted to do in this book is tell his story in a way

00:26:56.800 to bring it alive to modern readers but also to include his 30 years of spring court decisions

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00:27:32.500 order it now and this book makes a fantastic gift for your kids for your grandkids Clarence Thomas

00:27:40.120 I believe is an American hero and we tell his story in the book going further Canadian women

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00:28:11.260 podcast on iHeartRadio or wherever you listen to your podcasts uh there was a very interesting

00:28:17.900 flashpoint that happened that was underreported or just not even touched uh at UCLA with a

00:28:23.780 conservative speaker that was coming to the law school and the I I want to be clear I have no

00:28:29.760 problem with protests on college campuses i think it's great that's outside disrupting and silencing

00:28:34.900 a conservative speaker or a liberal speaker in the venue that is completely different ucla did

00:28:41.260 nothing to in essence stop this from happening silencing a conservative speaker uh and it's now

00:28:46.640 gone viral on youtube uh and on x thank goodness on social media i want to get your reaction to

00:28:53.120 this because it was pre-planned and ucla they didn't do enough to stop it at all well listen

00:28:59.120 and everyone has a right to protest. You have a right to speak. But what you don't have a right

00:29:03.500 to do is engage in what's called the heckler's veto. You don't have a right to silence a speaker

00:29:08.340 you disagree with. And that's what the left does. The left is terrified of opposing views. They do

00:29:14.060 this frequently. So what happened, UCLA Law School invited a lawyer from the Department of Homeland

00:29:19.420 Security to come talk. The Federalist Society at the Law School did. And leftists came and

00:29:25.140 deliberately disrupted the event and i gotta say this reminded me of an event that happened a

00:29:30.260 couple of years ago at stanford law school another california law school yeah where kyle duncan who

00:29:35.180 was a federal appellate judge from the fifth circuit spoke and you had law students who screamed

00:29:40.780 and yelled and and and said that they hoped that his daughters were raped i mean it was really 0.66

00:29:46.280 twisted and and i gotta say look i'm i'm a lawyer i'm a law school graduate i'm a member of the bar

00:29:51.740 any lawyer if you remember the bar you number one have to pass a character and fitness test

00:29:59.560 and if you're in front of a judge i gotta tell you if you're a lawyer and you scream and curse

00:30:05.020 at the judge and say you hope that his daughter was raped you will be held in contempt and go to

00:30:10.480 jail like that is not compatible with actually being a lawyer and so if you disagree with the

00:30:17.040 views some speaker is saying you can protest outside you can express your own views but you

00:30:21.240 don't have the right to engage in in shouting them down attacking silencing them preventing

00:30:31.420 others from listening to those messages now i mentioned just a minute ago my brand new book

00:30:37.220 going further the incomparable clarence thomas by the way you can order that book at goingfurther.com

00:30:43.180 goingfurther.com the book i wrote before that was entitled unwoke how to defeat cultural

00:30:50.180 Marxism in America. And I mention that because when I talk about colleges and universities,

00:30:55.240 I talk at length about what happened at Stanford, what happened at Stanford with this federal judge

00:31:00.600 that was screamed and denounced by law students. Well, you know what happened? A couple of things

00:31:06.120 happened. Number one, at Stanford, when this happened, the administrator from Stanford Law

00:31:12.700 School came in. Now, she could have said, all right, enough. You don't get to silence the

00:31:17.620 speaker you can express your own views but you don't get to prevent the students from hearing

00:31:21.280 the views of this federal judge she didn't do that instead she gave this long pre-written speech

00:31:26.780 agreeing with the hecklers and protesters and attacking the judge and saying the juice is not 0.99

00:31:32.260 worth the squeeze now amazingly stanford law school fired her because of what she did there

00:31:40.740 and not only that i wrote a letter i wrote a letter to the chief justice of the texas supreme 0.92

00:31:46.060 Court. And I said, look, these are law students that want to be lawyers. Some of them maybe want

00:31:50.640 to be lawyers in Texas. Part of being a lawyer is character and fitness, the ability to appear

00:31:55.780 in a court and not scream and yell and curse at a judge. These law students have demonstrated

00:32:00.820 they're unwilling to do so. And I called on the Texas Supreme Court to inquire of any graduates

00:32:06.620 of Stanford Law School of the relevant time period. Did you participate in screaming and

00:32:13.840 cursing and shouting down a federal judge and if you did we're not going to admit you as a member

00:32:18.620 of the texas bar because that's not how lawyers are allowed to behave in front of judges and the

00:32:24.560 texas supreme court did exactly that they said because the law schools are not enforcing the

00:32:31.140 rules are not protecting free speech we the state of texas are going to do so i gotta say as i look

00:32:38.280 at what happened at ucla that makes a lot of sense here and i want you to listen listen to these

00:32:43.400 students when the lawyer

00:32:45.480 from the Department of Homeland Security began

00:32:47.280 speaking.

00:32:52.040 Today's speaker is brought

00:32:53.500 to us by the UCLA chapter

00:32:55.140 of the Federalist Society.

00:33:01.640 I have to speak to you.

00:33:03.220 I have.

00:33:06.920 First of all,

00:33:07.620 thank you for having me.

00:33:10.640 My parents

00:33:11.760 because we met at UCLA, but from California,

00:33:13.760 I was in a lot of times where you just,

00:33:15.760 you know, and also they sort of tell you,

00:33:17.760 you know, read case law, and then you find

00:33:19.760 you, you know, about this, and you're not talking

00:33:21.760 very well. Most of the time,

00:33:23.760 you'll find, you know, anyone who is coming in

00:33:25.760 immediately is paying a certificate

00:33:27.760 of case law.

00:33:29.760 Um, and they typically

00:33:31.760 don't have the cash for it.

00:33:33.760 So, typically what happens is

00:33:35.760 they will basically agree,

00:33:37.760 the cartels will help them enter,

00:33:39.760 them enter and then they will get to their final destination and be responsible for paying off the

00:33:43.760 debt. I mean, so when you're in a situation where you're working... You look at this and some of

00:33:51.940 these that are up there, just so people on radio and listening on the podcast, they're holding up

00:33:57.100 signs, some of these kids, after booing with F-bombs and other things in the face of this

00:34:04.560 speaker. And these are not just random kids. These are people that are in law school.

00:34:09.760 And they're playing their phones.

00:34:11.620 They're holding up their phones and making noises to shut down the speaker.

00:34:15.400 So the noises you heard there are they're holding up their phones.

00:34:19.580 And they did this throughout the speech.

00:34:22.080 And this is an example.

00:34:23.960 If you disagree with the speaker, although I'll point out they don't even know if they disagree with the speaker because they didn't actually listen to what he had to say.

00:34:31.380 But if you disagree with the Southern Poverty Law Center was paying for part of this.

00:34:35.080 You know, that's not a crazy question.

00:34:37.000 I mean, I mean, seriously, this is the type of stuff they would sponsor and pay for.

00:34:41.540 Look, the amazing thing about leftists is they're so angry and they're not willing to actually confront substance.

00:34:51.040 So, all right, let's say you're a UCLA liberal and you don't like the Trump administration's immigration policy.

00:34:57.840 OK, you could lay out your view of why you think you should have a different policy.

00:35:02.460 but you don't see anyone there confronting was 12 million people invading this country over the

00:35:09.340 four years of biden a good thing was the biden administration releasing thousands of murderers

00:35:14.960 and rapists and child molesters and drunk drivers and gangbangers a good thing they don't address

00:35:20.440 that because those are actual facts those are actual facts that resulted in americans being 0.97

00:35:26.540 murdered being assaulted and women being raped and children being raped they don't want to engage in

00:35:32.100 that i'm perfectly fine if these leftists want to go have a protest outside and say we love open 0.55

00:35:38.600 borders invade our country which sadly seems to be the view of the leftist but they're not actually

00:35:45.080 engaging in ideas they're trying to use oppression if you disagree with someone respond with reason

00:35:53.240 and logic don't respond with bullying and force and and and essentially trying to stifle free

00:36:04.020 speech and where the hell was the administration of ucla why was there no administrator there saying

00:36:10.200 no you don't get to to shut this event down just because you disagree yeah well it's probably

00:36:16.660 because they had no problem with the people that were holding up the f-bomb signs in the classroom

00:36:20.900 in law school at UCLA.

00:36:22.980 I say it all the time.

00:36:24.420 Watch where you send your money

00:36:25.700 and really watch where you're sending your kids to school

00:36:27.820 because they will indoctrinate the hell out of them

00:36:29.700 and they can turn into this.

00:36:31.360 Don't forget, download Verdict with Ted Cruz

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00:36:34.660 We do this show Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

00:36:36.600 And the center and I will see you back here

00:36:38.040 on this radio station next week as well.

Verdict with Ted Cruz - April 24, 2026

Southern Poverty Law Center FUNDS the Klan, plus UCLA Law Students Silence Conservatives

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