Verdict with Ted Cruz - June 17, 2021


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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
00:00:02.320 Guaranteed human.
00:00:04.680 Communism.
00:00:06.420 Student radicals.
00:00:08.480 Second wave feminism.
00:00:12.220 Wokeness.
00:00:14.120 Political correctness.
00:00:16.340 Critical race theory.
00:00:18.800 Pete Buttigieg.
00:00:20.740 All of these are interconnected.
00:00:23.740 And all of these are explained in a new book
00:00:26.200 by the co-host of this podcast.
00:00:28.340 This is Verdict with Michael Knowles.
00:00:37.940 And so the tables are turned, my friend.
00:00:41.200 You're hawking a book.
00:00:42.820 And actually this book,
00:00:44.060 am I right that this book actually has words?
00:00:46.220 Senator, this is backwards in so many ways.
00:00:48.960 You opening the show,
00:00:50.620 Verdict with Michael Knowles,
00:00:51.880 and craziest of all,
00:00:53.800 a Michael Knowles book that actually has words in it.
00:00:57.040 It is true.
00:00:57.560 I can make that promise right now.
00:00:59.140 And the words are pretty scary.
00:01:00.440 Like on every page.
00:01:02.300 On almost every page.
00:01:04.080 You did write some of the words.
00:01:06.180 I thank you very much for giving me a very kind blurb.
00:01:09.840 I'll give you all your bribe money afterward.
00:01:12.140 Obviously, I owe a lot to all these blurbists here.
00:01:15.240 I can be bribed in liquor and tobacco.
00:01:18.700 Very good.
00:01:19.460 So let's talk about this book.
00:01:21.460 Let's talk.
00:01:21.840 I mean, the topic of this book,
00:01:23.740 censorship, speech codes, woke culture,
00:01:28.220 political correctness.
00:01:30.680 You start the book by explaining where all this came from.
00:01:34.360 And you trace it to some 1930s communists.
00:01:41.060 What's up with that?
00:01:41.820 Well, like all aspects of political correctness,
00:01:46.880 the terms keep changing.
00:01:48.580 So it's a little bit tricky to trace.
00:01:50.420 That's kind of the central feature of PC,
00:01:52.260 is they change all the words.
00:01:53.600 And the idea is if you can redefine the words,
00:01:55.600 you can redefine reality.
00:01:57.480 So it's difficult to look back.
00:02:00.320 I think a lot of people believe
00:02:01.460 that political correctness began,
00:02:03.320 I don't know, in the 90s or the 80s,
00:02:05.140 the kind of battles on campus.
00:02:06.720 Or maybe some people say it went back a little further
00:02:08.620 to those student radicals in the 60s,
00:02:11.000 the advent of nowism to the United States.
00:02:14.020 Some people say it goes back to the critical theorists
00:02:16.480 who now are really center stage
00:02:18.760 because of critical race theory,
00:02:20.940 this new academic movement
00:02:22.640 that is really threatening so much
00:02:24.360 at the heart of our country.
00:02:25.360 And some people think it goes back even further.
00:02:27.900 And I think it goes back,
00:02:29.700 as so many evil things do,
00:02:31.600 to a statement from Karl Marx.
00:02:34.080 Karl Marx, in a letter to Arnold Ruge,
00:02:37.260 called for the ruthless criticism
00:02:39.920 of all that exists.
00:02:43.040 No small feat to criticize everything,
00:02:45.620 but it's a fallen world,
00:02:46.480 and so everything's open to criticism.
00:02:48.560 And what the Marxist theorists
00:02:51.360 who came about in the 20s and the 30s realized.
00:02:53.480 So let me stop you there, Michael.
00:02:56.460 Why would Marx want to criticize all that exists?
00:03:00.000 What is to be served by doing it?
00:03:02.060 Marx wanted a total revolution,
00:03:05.160 a complete reordering of society from the ground up.
00:03:09.340 Actually, Whitaker Chambers,
00:03:10.800 a wonderful writer who wrote the great book Witness,
00:03:13.320 he was an ex-communist.
00:03:14.900 He famously said that communism
00:03:16.780 is not the world's newest ideology.
00:03:19.460 It's actually the second oldest ideology in the world.
00:03:22.480 Goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden,
00:03:24.760 when the serpent says,
00:03:26.280 ye shall be as gods.
00:03:28.120 And that's the aim.
00:03:29.100 This is nothing less than the total upending of the world.
00:03:31.800 But the problem was this.
00:03:33.680 Karl Marx dies a failure.
00:03:36.600 The workers of the world did not unite.
00:03:38.900 The revolution did not materialize.
00:03:41.120 It turned out that those poor oppressed workers
00:03:43.220 actually kind of liked their countries
00:03:46.340 and their traditions and their way of life.
00:03:48.260 They actually liked it more
00:03:49.160 than the kooky leftist theories.
00:03:50.580 And so, Michael, I'm going to stop you periodically
00:03:53.040 as we discuss this just to ask,
00:03:55.040 well, the kind of questions
00:03:56.040 that you're normally pestering me with
00:03:57.600 and I'm sort of enjoying asking you.
00:04:00.340 But let's start with communism.
00:04:02.200 All right, that's a big scary word
00:04:03.520 that gets tossed around a lot.
00:04:05.140 But what does communism mean?
00:04:06.980 What is it?
00:04:07.860 Well, there are these two related terms,
00:04:10.060 socialism and communism.
00:04:11.600 It's a little confusing to figure out
00:04:13.220 what the relationship is.
00:04:14.760 And Paul Kenger, the political scientist,
00:04:16.720 once described it to me.
00:04:17.740 He said, Michael, Christians go to heaven
00:04:20.260 and socialists go to communism.
00:04:22.860 So you've got this takeover of the means of production
00:04:25.820 by the workers,
00:04:26.900 which really means by the state under socialism.
00:04:30.000 And this is going to lead to a utopia of communism
00:04:33.860 that just always seems a little bit out of reach.
00:04:38.960 You know, looking back now on the communist movement,
00:04:43.440 it's hard to imagine it.
00:04:44.980 But at the time, especially at the turn of the 20th century,
00:04:48.560 all the smart people were communists.
00:04:50.560 They really, I mean, this was a major intellectual movement.
00:04:53.460 And when people saw how that turned out
00:04:56.080 under Stalin in particular,
00:04:58.000 a lot of them became disillusioned.
00:05:00.280 And you saw people trying to consign it
00:05:03.900 to the ash heap of history.
00:05:05.240 Now, unfortunately, all these years later,
00:05:07.200 it's coming back.
00:05:08.140 But there's a big distinction.
00:05:09.420 There's a big difference.
00:05:10.120 Marx viewed man as primarily an economic being, right?
00:05:15.760 He viewed all of this class struggle
00:05:17.620 in the history of the world
00:05:19.360 as one of economic class.
00:05:22.960 What the later Marxists understood,
00:05:26.200 people like Gramsci,
00:05:27.260 people like the critical theorists,
00:05:28.600 Marcuse, the people who we're now all talking about,
00:05:32.120 is that it has much more to do with culture.
00:05:35.420 And if you can get a hold of the common sense,
00:05:37.420 if you can get a hold of the institutions,
00:05:39.300 you will have a much easier time
00:05:40.720 effecting a revolution
00:05:42.900 through what Gramsci called a war of position.
00:05:45.800 Take the positions of influence
00:05:47.200 in all of the institutions.
00:05:49.160 And then Hemingway describes going bankrupt
00:05:51.760 as it happens gradually, then suddenly.
00:05:54.340 So it happened gradually from the 20s
00:05:56.300 to say the 90s or 2000s.
00:05:58.240 Now I think we're in the suddenly phase.
00:05:59.860 All right, so let me back you up a little bit.
00:06:01.980 You know, the way I think about socialism and communism
00:06:04.980 is that socialism is a means of structuring the economy.
00:06:09.080 So socialism stands in contrast to capitalism.
00:06:12.400 Capitalism is what we have,
00:06:13.960 at least in some form in the United States,
00:06:16.300 where you could own capital.
00:06:17.640 You can start a business.
00:06:18.520 You can own property.
00:06:19.480 You can hire workers.
00:06:20.680 You can build a business
00:06:21.680 and create opportunity and prosperity and jobs.
00:06:26.100 Socialism is an economic system
00:06:28.180 where the government owns the means
00:06:30.820 of production or distribution in an economy.
00:06:33.040 So rather than you starting a business,
00:06:35.160 the government owns the business.
00:06:37.160 And it redistributes wealth
00:06:40.100 from those who have it to those who don't.
00:06:42.700 Now, communism is,
00:06:44.740 it is a system of governance,
00:06:46.480 but it is also a way of looking at the world
00:06:49.560 about how that system of governance comes to pass.
00:06:52.360 And socialism is the economic system of communism.
00:06:55.680 So every communist country practices socialism.
00:06:57.860 But communist countries have with them as well dictatorship.
00:07:03.940 And Karl Marx, he built on the works of Hegel and others
00:07:08.200 that posited a dialectic, posited a conflict.
00:07:13.400 And they also were economic determinists.
00:07:16.260 And so they believed that economic forces
00:07:19.160 were at work in the world that couldn't be stopped,
00:07:22.360 that would naturally and inevitably result
00:07:24.860 result in the way Marx viewed the world
00:07:27.460 is as a never-ending conflict
00:07:30.220 between the owners of capital
00:07:32.000 and those who were working,
00:07:35.220 those who worked for them.
00:07:36.620 And communism was a revolution of the proletariat,
00:07:39.860 a revolution of the working men and women
00:07:41.600 to overthrow the owners of capital
00:07:44.000 and to transition into a socialist economy instead
00:07:49.120 where the government owns the capital
00:07:50.640 and there are no capitalists anymore.
00:07:54.980 That distinction,
00:07:56.860 you mentioned that there was a time
00:07:59.620 when all the smart people were communists.
00:08:02.020 You know, if you go to our university faculties,
00:08:04.000 that still is the case for an awful lot of them.
00:08:07.400 The problem with communism,
00:08:08.980 one of the many problems, is in practice.
00:08:11.580 So it was theorized that it was dictatorship
00:08:13.720 of the proletariat,
00:08:14.700 that it was the people that were ruling.
00:08:16.680 But in every communist country we've had,
00:08:18.720 there's always been a brutal dictator,
00:08:20.800 a brutal communist government
00:08:22.080 that enforces its power
00:08:24.480 through torture and murder and persecution
00:08:27.620 because it is the dominance of the state.
00:08:29.880 If the state owns everything,
00:08:31.460 that means the state's in charge of everything.
00:08:33.740 And so we've seen communism doesn't work.
00:08:36.340 But, all right, all of that is background
00:08:38.560 to say, well, how is that connected
00:08:42.220 to political correctness and cancel culture
00:08:46.100 and woke corporations and critical race theory?
00:08:49.560 And you mentioned a guy, Gramsci,
00:08:51.900 and you said, all of us are talking about him.
00:08:53.460 And I got to say,
00:08:53.960 I don't know what circles you're running in.
00:08:56.900 The folks I'm palling around with,
00:08:59.660 you know, Gramsci doesn't get mentioned
00:09:00.940 more than six, seven times a day.
00:09:02.260 At most, at most.
00:09:04.500 All right, who was this guy?
00:09:06.200 Why should anyone care who this guy was?
00:09:08.320 So, I think your point is so great, Senator,
00:09:11.040 because, one, you've got this aspect
00:09:13.940 of economic determinism.
00:09:15.400 You've also got historical determinism.
00:09:17.500 That's where you get these phrases
00:09:18.380 like the right side of history,
00:09:20.080 the idea deeply held by the radicals today,
00:09:22.980 just as it was then,
00:09:24.200 that history is going to move in that direction.
00:09:27.220 And so you've got rube conservative reactionaries
00:09:30.460 like you and me.
00:09:31.640 But we're going to stand in the way
00:09:33.440 only for some time.
00:09:34.240 Eventually, history is going to go in their direction.
00:09:36.720 You get a guy like Antonio Gramsci,
00:09:39.240 who is the founder of the Communist Party of Italy,
00:09:41.700 a brilliant Marxist theoretician.
00:09:44.340 He's thrown in jail by Benito Mussolini.
00:09:46.840 Mussolini did many terrible things,
00:09:48.860 not the least of which was throwing Gramsci in jail,
00:09:52.480 not because Gramsci didn't deserve it,
00:09:54.500 but because it gave Gramsci an opportunity
00:09:56.380 to write his greatest work,
00:09:58.000 the prison notebooks.
00:09:58.940 They actually said at Gramsci's trial in Italy
00:10:00.960 that they had to stop this mind
00:10:03.520 from working for 20 years.
00:10:05.540 So what did they do?
00:10:06.180 They put him in a cell
00:10:06.840 and gave him a pen and paper.
00:10:07.880 Not a very good way
00:10:08.540 to stop a mind from working.
00:10:10.100 And he understood.
00:10:11.880 And I think when a lot of people hear
00:10:13.620 that this has something to do with Marx,
00:10:15.260 something to do with communism,
00:10:16.320 something to do with Marxists,
00:10:17.720 they're going to say,
00:10:18.300 this sounds like a kooky conspiracy theory.
00:10:20.060 I don't see people marching around
00:10:22.140 with hammers and sickles out there.
00:10:24.240 You're right,
00:10:24.900 because this is much more subtle.
00:10:28.180 Gramsci understood
00:10:28.920 you need to get a hold of the common sense.
00:10:30.760 You need to have what he called
00:10:31.880 cultural hegemony.
00:10:33.900 Right now, the conservatives
00:10:35.120 have the cultural hegemony.
00:10:36.280 It's why we can't get our theories through.
00:10:38.020 But if we begin to dominate the culture,
00:10:40.820 that will help.
00:10:41.840 So you have out of that growth
00:10:43.760 what's called the Frankfurt School,
00:10:46.360 formerly called the Institute for Marxism,
00:10:48.080 which develops in the United States.
00:10:50.040 And it's more of these
00:10:51.440 radical Marxist academics
00:10:53.360 who create something called critical theory.
00:10:56.900 And what is critical theory?
00:10:58.240 There's a lot of jargon.
00:10:59.280 I've got a whole big book here
00:11:00.380 on critical race theory,
00:11:01.740 which is a derivation of it.
00:11:03.380 But at bottom, the theory is simple.
00:11:04.980 The theory is to criticize.
00:11:07.700 And what critical race theory
00:11:10.100 in particular undertakes
00:11:12.400 is nothing less than
00:11:14.020 the total dismantling of the system.
00:11:17.400 There are just a couple quotes in here,
00:11:19.040 because I know,
00:11:20.040 just like nobody wants to talk
00:11:21.120 about Gramsci at a dinner party,
00:11:22.580 nobody wants to work their way
00:11:23.780 through this drivel
00:11:24.700 of critical race theory.
00:11:26.140 But just a couple passages
00:11:27.680 to give you a sense
00:11:28.620 of what this thing is.
00:11:30.180 Kimberly Crenshaw
00:11:30.940 is widely credited
00:11:33.020 with popularizing ideas
00:11:34.880 like critical race theory
00:11:35.820 or intersectionality.
00:11:37.120 She writes,
00:11:38.860 the problem with identity politics
00:11:41.020 is not that it fails
00:11:42.900 to transcend difference,
00:11:44.400 as some critics charge,
00:11:45.700 but rather the opposite,
00:11:47.100 that it frequently conflates
00:11:48.580 or ignores intra-group differences.
00:11:51.160 And ignoring differences
00:11:52.220 within groups
00:11:52.940 contributes to tension among groups,
00:11:54.980 another problem of identity politics.
00:11:56.780 What she's saying is
00:11:57.780 the problem with identity politics
00:11:58.980 is it doesn't go far enough.
00:12:01.400 It only talks about,
00:12:02.680 say, black people and women,
00:12:03.900 but it doesn't talk about black women.
00:12:05.480 Talks about black women and lesbians,
00:12:07.240 but not about black lesbians.
00:12:08.720 Talks about this
00:12:09.360 that goes all the way down
00:12:10.620 to an endless pit
00:12:12.500 of identities
00:12:13.560 that are seen to be posited
00:12:14.800 against one another
00:12:15.740 to divvy up society.
00:12:17.540 So I got to say, Michael,
00:12:19.360 it strikes me
00:12:20.340 that you're exceptionally poor
00:12:22.680 at hawking your book
00:12:24.160 because you actually pulled out
00:12:26.240 another book
00:12:26.800 and read from the other book,
00:12:27.820 not your book
00:12:28.500 that's sitting next to you,
00:12:29.500 but some giant red book
00:12:31.060 that you told us
00:12:32.100 is really crappy
00:12:32.740 and then you said,
00:12:33.340 I want to read you
00:12:33.940 the really crappy book.
00:12:37.540 So let's cut to
00:12:39.120 the hundreds of thousands
00:12:41.640 of people
00:12:42.160 who have downloaded
00:12:43.380 this podcast
00:12:44.160 and are listening to it now.
00:12:45.820 Why should they go online
00:12:47.320 right now and buy your book?
00:12:48.240 Because we have totally failed
00:12:52.260 to stop this scourge.
00:12:54.020 What do you want to call it?
00:12:54.660 We've been talking about
00:12:55.520 neo-Marxism.
00:12:56.920 We've been talking
00:12:57.460 about political correctness.
00:12:58.460 We talk about wokeism.
00:12:59.320 We talk about critical race theory,
00:13:00.480 right?
00:13:00.660 All of these terms.
00:13:03.980 We've utterly failed
00:13:05.280 on the right.
00:13:06.120 And it's not like
00:13:07.160 we haven't been talking
00:13:08.140 about political correctness.
00:13:09.460 We've been talking about it
00:13:10.500 till we're blue in the face
00:13:11.860 for 30 years now.
00:13:12.760 And yet it seems
00:13:13.500 that the more we fight,
00:13:14.780 the more ground we lose.
00:13:15.900 Why is that?
00:13:16.840 I think it's because
00:13:17.560 we've misunderstood
00:13:18.600 what political correctness is.
00:13:20.540 I think that we have not
00:13:21.340 taken these writers seriously.
00:13:23.080 Guys like Gramsci,
00:13:24.120 you know,
00:13:24.380 actually just to give you
00:13:25.020 a sense of Gramsci,
00:13:26.140 do you know that the only guy
00:13:27.640 who has translated
00:13:29.980 Gramsci's works
00:13:30.800 for the American audience
00:13:31.820 is a man named
00:13:33.180 Joseph Buttigieg.
00:13:34.960 Now, if that name
00:13:35.720 sounds familiar,
00:13:36.620 it's because he was
00:13:37.680 the father
00:13:38.260 of presidential candidate
00:13:40.420 and now
00:13:41.220 transportation secretary,
00:13:43.520 Pete Buttigieg, rather.
00:13:45.380 So you've got one
00:13:46.100 of the most moderate
00:13:47.020 kind of milquetoast
00:13:48.000 Democrat candidates
00:13:48.840 has this radical
00:13:50.040 intellectual pedigree,
00:13:51.420 Joseph Buttigieg,
00:13:52.120 president of the Gramsci Society.
00:13:53.980 Wait, wait, wait.
00:13:54.360 You're saying Mayor Pete,
00:13:56.820 sweet, inoffensive Mayor Pete,
00:13:59.780 pretend to be a centrist Mayor Pete,
00:14:02.180 that his dad
00:14:03.280 was a radical communist academic
00:14:06.320 who translated
00:14:08.760 and edited
00:14:09.560 this Italian communist
00:14:11.600 that no one has ever heard of
00:14:12.640 but is really dangerous.
00:14:13.420 One of the most radical academics
00:14:16.020 out there.
00:14:17.140 And I pointed out
00:14:18.820 Did he like lead a society
00:14:21.120 or anything on this?
00:14:21.960 You might call it
00:14:22.900 the International Gramsci Society.
00:14:24.820 Yes, he was one of the co-founders.
00:14:26.620 He was a president
00:14:27.460 of that society.
00:14:28.880 It just shows you
00:14:30.260 how far the rot goes
00:14:32.400 that even in the
00:14:33.420 milquetoast mild corners
00:14:35.380 of the liberal establishment,
00:14:36.580 you have this
00:14:37.740 kind of radicalism.
00:14:39.360 And I think
00:14:39.960 the problem here,
00:14:40.900 I think the reason
00:14:41.780 that we have lost
00:14:43.120 is because political correctness
00:14:45.420 or wokeism
00:14:46.080 or whatever you want to call it,
00:14:47.520 it lays a trap
00:14:48.680 for conservatives.
00:14:50.260 It sets out
00:14:51.680 with this purely
00:14:52.260 negative purpose, right?
00:14:53.160 They've been saying it
00:14:53.700 from the very beginning
00:14:54.480 and you totally see this
00:14:55.560 in the 60s.
00:14:56.180 It just wants to tear down society.
00:14:58.620 It just wants to rip it
00:14:59.640 down to the ground.
00:15:00.740 And what it does
00:15:02.940 is it calls
00:15:04.100 two different reactions
00:15:05.620 from conservatives.
00:15:06.420 The one,
00:15:07.280 it's what the squishes do.
00:15:08.400 They just go along
00:15:09.320 with the new standards, right?
00:15:10.800 And obviously
00:15:12.120 that advances
00:15:12.720 the left's purpose
00:15:13.420 because it just gives in to them.
00:15:14.940 But there's a more insidious way,
00:15:17.420 a subtler way
00:15:18.120 that this purpose is advanced.
00:15:19.960 And it's from the more
00:15:20.720 stalwart conservatives
00:15:21.620 who say, look,
00:15:22.660 I'm not going to go along
00:15:23.680 with the left's new standard.
00:15:25.120 I am going to get rid
00:15:26.880 of standards altogether.
00:15:28.200 I'm only going to talk
00:15:29.080 about freedom in the abstract.
00:15:30.300 I'm not going to talk
00:15:30.980 about any practical
00:15:31.820 traditions of freedom.
00:15:33.940 But the irony here,
00:15:35.320 of course,
00:15:35.740 is that either way
00:15:36.720 you cut it,
00:15:37.760 the traditional standards
00:15:39.020 that political correctness
00:15:40.200 aims at are destroyed.
00:15:42.060 And, you know,
00:15:42.940 I know that we like
00:15:43.900 to pride ourselves
00:15:44.600 on the right
00:15:45.140 about understanding
00:15:45.960 free speech
00:15:46.600 and the history of America
00:15:47.460 so much better
00:15:48.200 than the left does.
00:15:49.380 But frankly,
00:15:50.380 these crazy kooky thinkers
00:15:52.040 that I had to read
00:15:53.960 for everybody
00:15:54.960 so that they didn't
00:15:55.600 have to read it themselves
00:15:56.420 and then tell the story in here,
00:15:58.060 these guys were pretty sharp
00:15:59.340 and they've obviously
00:16:00.220 been very politically effective.
00:16:02.220 So this may be a place
00:16:03.620 where I'm more libertarian
00:16:05.200 than conservative
00:16:05.920 in that I'm something
00:16:08.460 of a free speech radical.
00:16:10.280 And I believe
00:16:11.560 in protecting
00:16:13.680 everybody's right
00:16:15.060 to spew idiocy.
00:16:17.360 And in fact,
00:16:18.400 I think free speech
00:16:20.100 matters the more idiotic
00:16:21.820 it is what you're saying.
00:16:23.300 You know,
00:16:23.480 a lot of times
00:16:24.020 you hear politicians today
00:16:25.300 talk about
00:16:26.320 we want to have
00:16:26.900 reasonable speech.
00:16:28.700 You hear college academics
00:16:30.520 talk about
00:16:31.200 we want to get rid
00:16:32.360 of unreasonable speech.
00:16:33.440 We want to get rid
00:16:33.880 of hate speech.
00:16:34.700 But the First Amendment
00:16:37.040 doesn't exist
00:16:37.880 to protect
00:16:38.540 reasonable speech.
00:16:39.920 You don't need it.
00:16:40.960 If it's reasonable,
00:16:41.860 if everyone agrees with it,
00:16:43.120 there are no constraints on it.
00:16:44.660 It is only when someone
00:16:46.280 thinks the speech
00:16:47.200 is unreasonable
00:16:48.260 that you end up
00:16:50.160 having that speech silenced.
00:16:52.180 And so,
00:16:53.500 you know,
00:16:54.060 I do think there is
00:16:55.100 a real difference
00:16:55.860 between left and right
00:16:56.900 in that the left,
00:16:58.840 they believe in government.
00:17:00.260 They believe in government power.
00:17:01.620 And they believe in government
00:17:02.720 control over you
00:17:04.240 and silencing you
00:17:06.080 if you disagree.
00:17:07.840 From my end,
00:17:08.800 I don't want to silence
00:17:09.560 the people who disagree.
00:17:10.640 I don't want to silence
00:17:11.600 Bernie Sanders or AOC.
00:17:13.540 And to be honest,
00:17:13.960 I'd like people to listen
00:17:14.760 to AOC a lot more.
00:17:16.660 I think she does a great job
00:17:18.040 of convincing them
00:17:18.660 to support the other side.
00:17:19.840 But,
00:17:20.600 you know,
00:17:21.320 now,
00:17:22.140 that doesn't mean
00:17:23.080 that you're a nihilist
00:17:25.140 and you say
00:17:25.600 because everyone
00:17:26.160 has a right to speak,
00:17:27.300 every view is equally valid.
00:17:28.960 Right.
00:17:29.620 I think I also believe in truth.
00:17:31.960 And so,
00:17:32.740 does that mean
00:17:33.980 the Nazis have a right to speak?
00:17:35.680 Does that mean
00:17:36.120 the Klan has a right to speak?
00:17:37.540 Absolutely.
00:17:38.220 And then the Supreme Court,
00:17:39.260 by the way,
00:17:39.580 in a very famous case,
00:17:41.540 upheld the Nazis' right
00:17:43.200 to protest,
00:17:44.700 to march in the streets
00:17:45.780 of Skokie, Illinois.
00:17:46.780 I agree with that decision.
00:17:47.800 That's the right decision.
00:17:50.220 The Supreme Court also,
00:17:51.360 in another case,
00:17:52.100 upheld the right
00:17:52.900 of a hippie
00:17:54.560 to wear a jacket
00:17:56.100 that had on the back
00:17:57.200 F the draft.
00:17:59.640 And it didn't just,
00:18:00.640 it's spelled out
00:18:01.860 all of F the draft,
00:18:02.860 not just the one letter.
00:18:04.880 I do think
00:18:05.920 the ability to speak
00:18:07.640 hateful,
00:18:08.860 objectionable speech
00:18:09.940 is protected
00:18:10.560 in the Constitution.
00:18:12.640 But I also think
00:18:13.600 we have an obligation
00:18:14.440 to explain why it's wrong.
00:18:15.960 And so,
00:18:16.300 when the Nazis march,
00:18:18.360 we all have an obligation
00:18:20.120 to explain
00:18:20.640 that the Nazis
00:18:21.180 are evil,
00:18:21.920 bigoted bastards.
00:18:23.760 When the Klan marches,
00:18:25.060 we have an obligation
00:18:25.840 to make that clear.
00:18:27.480 But I'm very much
00:18:28.940 in the camp.
00:18:30.440 John Stuart Mill
00:18:31.200 on Liberty
00:18:31.740 said the best response
00:18:33.560 to bad speech
00:18:35.180 is more speech.
00:18:36.300 And I believe
00:18:37.480 that that's the right way
00:18:38.960 to counter it
00:18:39.960 is to aggressively,
00:18:41.440 I agree with you,
00:18:42.480 the left is trying
00:18:43.160 to tear down
00:18:43.960 our culture,
00:18:44.820 trying to tear down
00:18:45.580 our institutions,
00:18:46.880 trying to tear down
00:18:47.880 marriage,
00:18:48.480 trying to tear down
00:18:49.100 families,
00:18:49.780 trying to tear down
00:18:50.440 fatherhood,
00:18:51.160 trying to tear down
00:18:52.040 motherhood,
00:18:53.020 or I guess it's not
00:18:53.600 motherhood anymore,
00:18:54.380 it's birthing personhood.
00:18:57.540 That's a hard thing
00:18:58.460 to say,
00:18:58.840 birthing,
00:18:59.260 birthing.
00:19:00.060 That's a very difficult,
00:19:01.040 but all of this
00:19:02.380 is systematically
00:19:03.300 tearing down
00:19:04.600 institutions.
00:19:06.380 And by the way,
00:19:06.800 in communist countries,
00:19:07.660 you see this
00:19:08.400 fully developed
00:19:09.220 where,
00:19:10.360 you know,
00:19:11.320 one of our
00:19:11.780 first podcasts,
00:19:12.920 we interviewed
00:19:13.460 my aunt,
00:19:14.300 my tia Sonia,
00:19:15.280 who talked about
00:19:16.420 life in communist Cuba.
00:19:18.520 And she described
00:19:19.800 how
00:19:20.320 the communist
00:19:22.080 government there
00:19:22.860 tries to tear down
00:19:23.960 your allegiance
00:19:24.660 to your family,
00:19:26.960 to your parents,
00:19:28.320 to your spouse,
00:19:30.100 to your kids,
00:19:31.400 to your church.
00:19:32.700 They push atheism
00:19:33.920 because,
00:19:34.760 and this is right
00:19:35.420 at the heart
00:19:35.840 of communism,
00:19:36.760 if you have
00:19:37.860 no other loyalties,
00:19:38.920 if they can undermine
00:19:39.760 every other loyalty
00:19:40.580 you have,
00:19:41.200 then you're only
00:19:41.800 loyal to the state.
00:19:43.280 And that is
00:19:44.300 a powerful thing,
00:19:46.520 and it goes back
00:19:48.260 to when I asked
00:19:49.540 before,
00:19:50.080 why would Marx
00:19:50.800 want to tear down
00:19:51.780 our institutions?
00:19:53.460 Yeah.
00:19:54.500 Because they want
00:19:56.640 the state
00:19:57.460 to be the dominant
00:19:59.400 institution.
00:20:00.080 Now,
00:20:00.320 the state is
00:20:00.900 ostensibly
00:20:01.820 operating for the people.
00:20:04.960 But any time
00:20:05.780 you see a revolutionary
00:20:06.820 say the people
00:20:07.800 demand this,
00:20:09.120 you know,
00:20:09.400 somehow the jackboot
00:20:10.560 and machine gun
00:20:11.280 are right there
00:20:12.160 and the people
00:20:13.420 just happen to want
00:20:14.560 that dictator
00:20:15.260 to stay in power
00:20:16.100 and do whatever
00:20:16.580 the hell they want
00:20:17.420 for the rest
00:20:18.160 of their lives.
00:20:19.160 Right.
00:20:19.260 And on this point
00:20:20.140 of the institutions,
00:20:21.780 of course,
00:20:22.420 you're right.
00:20:22.920 We love our
00:20:24.260 very broad
00:20:25.360 free speech tradition
00:20:26.440 in America.
00:20:27.720 And where there
00:20:29.240 are standards
00:20:29.980 and there are
00:20:30.560 always standards,
00:20:31.660 every society
00:20:32.360 is going to have
00:20:32.860 certain taboos,
00:20:34.080 every society
00:20:34.620 is going to have
00:20:35.020 certain things
00:20:35.580 that you will
00:20:36.480 be ostracized
00:20:37.180 for saying,
00:20:37.780 maybe not by the
00:20:38.300 government,
00:20:38.680 but by society broadly.
00:20:40.800 In the traditional
00:20:41.840 American context,
00:20:43.060 it is institutions,
00:20:44.780 the church,
00:20:45.600 the local community
00:20:46.360 that will enforce this.
00:20:47.940 There are some
00:20:48.740 guardrails
00:20:49.340 from the federal
00:20:50.440 government,
00:20:50.920 even as well,
00:20:51.600 things like fraud,
00:20:52.560 for instance,
00:20:53.400 or obscenity laws,
00:20:54.560 also more at the
00:20:55.540 local level.
00:20:56.340 But, you know,
00:20:56.740 some guardrails
00:20:57.360 there in a lot
00:20:57.860 of the institutions.
00:20:59.020 As you erode that,
00:21:01.100 I think the claim
00:21:01.840 made by the
00:21:02.380 politically correct
00:21:03.820 radicals and by
00:21:05.280 the people who were
00:21:05.940 claiming the mantle
00:21:06.720 of free speech
00:21:07.340 in the 1960s,
00:21:08.560 the radical leftists
00:21:09.520 at Berkeley,
00:21:10.520 they were saying
00:21:11.080 we need to get rid
00:21:11.740 of all of these
00:21:12.360 restrictions and then
00:21:13.260 we will have
00:21:13.740 true freedom
00:21:14.360 and you'll be able
00:21:15.100 to say whatever you want.
00:21:16.180 But it was always a trap.
00:21:17.580 It was always a trick
00:21:18.420 because no sooner
00:21:19.700 had they broken down
00:21:20.720 those standards
00:21:21.400 than they created
00:21:22.300 a whole bunch of
00:21:23.000 new standards
00:21:23.580 in their place.
00:21:24.600 The way I think
00:21:25.320 of it sometimes
00:21:26.020 is,
00:21:26.640 especially coming
00:21:27.540 from Hollywood,
00:21:28.500 having fleed
00:21:29.460 from Mussolini's
00:21:31.400 failed state,
00:21:32.680 is there was a
00:21:33.820 blacklist in the 1950s.
00:21:35.880 In some cases,
00:21:36.800 it was kind of ugly.
00:21:38.040 There was the
00:21:38.900 Smith Act in the 1950s
00:21:40.300 where if you were
00:21:41.020 working for the
00:21:41.820 Communist Party,
00:21:42.580 if you were working
00:21:43.040 for a foreign state,
00:21:43.980 you could be prosecuted
00:21:45.300 actually getting back
00:21:46.600 to Whitaker Chambers,
00:21:47.520 that's what happened.
00:21:48.160 There actually were
00:21:49.000 communists in the government,
00:21:50.320 guys like Alger Hiss.
00:21:52.120 In the 1950s,
00:21:53.400 you would be cancelled
00:21:54.380 for being a communist.
00:21:56.780 Today,
00:21:57.620 you can be cancelled
00:21:58.380 for not being a communist.
00:22:00.140 You can get cancelled
00:22:01.120 for the opposite reason.
00:22:02.280 It seems that that
00:22:03.080 standard has totally shifted.
00:22:04.940 And so,
00:22:05.360 what I would like
00:22:06.860 to do at least
00:22:07.480 is preserve
00:22:08.560 this wonderful
00:22:09.460 American free speech
00:22:10.540 tradition
00:22:10.940 where you really
00:22:11.680 can speak your mind,
00:22:13.300 where you really
00:22:13.980 can maintain
00:22:15.420 your way of life
00:22:16.320 without handing over
00:22:18.200 to the left
00:22:18.820 the keys to create
00:22:20.100 a radical new
00:22:21.260 dictatorship of speech
00:22:23.220 which we have now seen
00:22:24.440 notably
00:22:25.200 through big tech.
00:22:26.740 You know,
00:22:26.900 it might not be
00:22:27.480 through the government
00:22:28.120 but big tech
00:22:28.880 is now controlling
00:22:29.600 the way
00:22:30.020 that we communicate
00:22:31.340 around our public square.
00:22:32.800 So,
00:22:33.240 explain something for me
00:22:34.580 which is
00:22:35.360 we were talking about
00:22:36.720 the communists,
00:22:37.880 you talk about
00:22:38.540 the critical thinkers,
00:22:40.040 there's a school
00:22:40.740 of the critical thinkers
00:22:41.740 that went into
00:22:42.240 law schools
00:22:42.960 that were called
00:22:43.700 critical legal theory
00:22:44.840 and the hotbed
00:22:46.020 of that
00:22:46.400 was my alma mater
00:22:47.540 was Harvard Law School
00:22:49.000 and when I was there
00:22:50.020 there were a bunch
00:22:50.560 of crits
00:22:50.980 that's what they were called
00:22:52.100 one of the more
00:22:52.600 prominent crits
00:22:53.440 drove a green
00:22:56.300 brand new Jaguar.
00:22:58.860 It's amazing
00:22:59.440 how communists
00:23:00.180 always seem to have
00:23:01.000 a whole lot of wealth
00:23:01.920 and comfort
00:23:03.280 and life tenure
00:23:04.060 can't be fired
00:23:04.900 and thus they
00:23:05.620 have no needs
00:23:07.040 to worry about
00:23:07.800 the means of production
00:23:08.640 in society.
00:23:09.840 But the crits
00:23:10.620 were relatively obscure
00:23:12.960 and they took
00:23:13.640 the ideas
00:23:14.340 of Marxism
00:23:15.080 and they applied
00:23:15.760 it to the legal system
00:23:17.080 and what they said
00:23:17.920 was the class conflict
00:23:20.180 that Marx posited
00:23:21.320 is at the
00:23:22.120 at the base
00:23:23.960 of everything
00:23:24.440 in society
00:23:25.140 that the class conflict
00:23:26.720 is also reflected
00:23:27.920 in our legal system
00:23:29.040 and the crits
00:23:30.020 attacked
00:23:30.580 that there
00:23:31.600 is anything
00:23:32.680 like fair or objective law
00:23:34.400 that it is possible
00:23:35.460 to apply the law
00:23:36.500 that it is possible
00:23:37.280 to understand the law
00:23:38.420 that any judge
00:23:39.900 can ever
00:23:41.160 follow the text
00:23:42.720 of the law
00:23:43.140 instead they said
00:23:44.080 the entire legal system
00:23:45.420 in America
00:23:46.000 exists as a means
00:23:48.260 of perpetuating
00:23:49.280 the class oppression
00:23:50.220 and perpetuating
00:23:51.200 the oppression
00:23:52.140 of the owners
00:23:52.760 of capital
00:23:53.380 over the proletariat
00:23:54.720 and so
00:23:55.420 it
00:23:56.380 combined the two notions
00:23:58.420 you said before
00:23:59.140 tearing down institutions
00:24:00.360 with the ongoing
00:24:01.980 class conflict
00:24:03.100 and it
00:24:04.440 mapped that
00:24:05.880 onto the legal system
00:24:07.000 and I gotta say
00:24:07.500 there are crits now
00:24:08.260 that have proliferated
00:24:09.320 at law schools
00:24:10.700 all over the country
00:24:11.420 you know
00:24:12.740 when it was at
00:24:13.260 the law schools
00:24:13.920 it was
00:24:14.240 and by the way
00:24:14.820 they had
00:24:15.200 this weird habit
00:24:16.620 of speaking
00:24:18.460 in like
00:24:19.820 12 syllable words
00:24:21.400 writing the most
00:24:22.540 impenetrable
00:24:23.580 prose
00:24:24.240 I mean I remember
00:24:25.020 when I was
00:24:25.520 on the law review
00:24:26.600 we had this one
00:24:27.440 article submitted
00:24:28.620 by this
00:24:29.840 this crit
00:24:30.540 academic
00:24:31.440 that was
00:24:32.500 completely
00:24:33.320 unreadable
00:24:34.320 I mean
00:24:34.740 it had words
00:24:35.940 I'm sorry
00:24:36.620 I think
00:24:37.120 I've got
00:24:37.340 a decent
00:24:37.820 vocabulary
00:24:38.460 and
00:24:39.680 it was
00:24:40.980 so
00:24:42.840 thick
00:24:44.120 that I
00:24:45.540 and I remember
00:24:45.960 like other
00:24:46.840 kind of lefty
00:24:47.820 law students
00:24:48.220 like oh
00:24:48.780 this is really
00:24:49.400 deep and profound
00:24:50.200 and I think
00:24:50.500 a law student
00:24:51.060 doesn't want
00:24:51.540 to admit
00:24:51.960 he doesn't
00:24:52.920 understand something
00:24:53.800 he doesn't
00:24:54.500 want to be
00:24:54.780 seen as dumb
00:24:55.380 so if it's
00:24:56.060 if you can't
00:24:56.820 understand it
00:24:57.420 well
00:24:57.600 then it must
00:24:58.020 be really
00:24:58.400 deep and
00:24:58.780 profound
00:24:59.120 I'm like
00:24:59.940 look
00:25:00.180 I'm sorry
00:25:01.120 this is not
00:25:01.680 written in
00:25:02.080 the English
00:25:02.440 language
00:25:02.800 I have no
00:25:03.200 idea what
00:25:03.580 the hell
00:25:03.800 the guy
00:25:04.100 is saying
00:25:04.560 and the
00:25:05.280 reason he's
00:25:05.740 using so
00:25:06.300 many big
00:25:06.720 words is
00:25:07.200 because his
00:25:07.560 ideas are
00:25:08.080 stupid and
00:25:08.520 he figures
00:25:08.800 if he uses
00:25:09.300 big words
00:25:09.920 that everyone
00:25:11.420 will be afraid
00:25:12.140 to call out
00:25:12.720 the emperor
00:25:13.180 for having
00:25:13.600 no clothes
00:25:14.120 right
00:25:14.400 but the
00:25:16.080 crits were
00:25:16.500 in law
00:25:16.860 schools
00:25:17.320 they were
00:25:17.700 relatively
00:25:18.200 benign
00:25:18.900 and then
00:25:20.580 suddenly
00:25:21.040 critical
00:25:21.580 legal
00:25:22.780 theory
00:25:23.260 took a
00:25:23.840 leap
00:25:24.160 into
00:25:24.500 critical
00:25:24.960 race
00:25:25.500 theory
00:25:25.840 now
00:25:26.060 how did
00:25:26.460 it
00:25:26.600 change
00:25:26.920 what's
00:25:27.300 the
00:25:27.440 difference
00:25:28.100 between
00:25:29.420 critical
00:25:30.780 theory
00:25:31.180 critical
00:25:31.520 legal
00:25:31.820 theory
00:25:32.140 and now
00:25:32.460 the new
00:25:32.840 thing
00:25:33.100 critical
00:25:33.480 race
00:25:33.800 theory
00:25:34.000 what is
00:25:34.340 you know
00:25:34.980 we're hearing
00:25:35.660 a lot
00:25:35.980 about that
00:25:36.640 and I
00:25:37.100 think
00:25:37.360 just today
00:25:39.480 walking down
00:25:40.120 the halls
00:25:40.500 of a capital
00:25:41.000 a reporter
00:25:41.440 walked up to
00:25:41.980 me and said
00:25:42.260 hey
00:25:42.480 what is
00:25:43.400 critical
00:25:43.740 race
00:25:44.060 theory
00:25:44.340 and I
00:25:44.580 think
00:25:44.680 it was
00:25:44.840 supposed
00:25:45.020 to be
00:25:45.180 a gotcha
00:25:45.580 question
00:25:46.020 like
00:25:46.360 let's
00:25:47.140 show
00:25:47.360 that
00:25:47.600 people
00:25:48.120 are
00:25:48.300 against
00:25:48.640 critical
00:25:48.980 race
00:25:49.220 theory
00:25:49.460 and they
00:25:49.640 don't
00:25:49.720 know
00:25:49.820 what
00:25:49.980 it
00:25:50.080 is
00:25:50.400 and I
00:25:51.080 think
00:25:51.240 he
00:25:51.320 was
00:25:51.420 a little
00:25:51.640 startled
00:25:52.040 that I
00:25:52.380 had
00:25:52.640 actually
00:25:53.480 an answer
00:25:53.900 but let
00:25:54.400 me ask
00:25:54.740 you that
00:25:55.080 what is
00:25:55.780 critical
00:25:56.140 race
00:25:56.400 theory
00:25:56.560 for someone
00:25:56.900 listening
00:25:57.340 you hear
00:25:58.160 this term
00:25:58.600 a lot
00:25:59.000 but a lot
00:26:00.300 of people
00:26:00.560 aren't sure
00:26:00.900 what it
00:26:01.160 means
00:26:01.440 yeah
00:26:01.720 I'm so
00:26:02.200 glad
00:26:02.420 you brought
00:26:02.840 this up
00:26:03.200 because
00:26:03.440 you're
00:26:03.680 going to
00:26:03.900 start
00:26:04.220 hearing
00:26:04.540 a lot
00:26:04.840 of these
00:26:05.100 gotcha
00:26:05.480 questions
00:26:06.000 maybe from
00:26:07.220 reporters
00:26:07.700 if you're
00:26:08.480 a US
00:26:08.900 senator
00:26:09.200 and maybe
00:26:09.880 just from
00:26:10.380 your liberal
00:26:10.980 friend down
00:26:12.080 the street
00:26:12.480 who wants
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00:26:13.200 you
00:26:13.320 because
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00:26:14.080 critical
00:26:14.880 theory
00:26:15.720 is
00:26:15.900 critical
00:26:16.120 race
00:26:16.340 theory
00:26:16.520 critical
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00:26:23.300 discipline
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00:26:29.840 and
00:26:30.120 mathematics
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00:26:33.080 property
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00:26:35.940 the legal
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00:26:37.920 a very
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00:26:40.320 race
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00:26:45.740 of
00:26:46.040 property
00:26:46.520 rights
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00:26:48.340 rooted
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00:26:49.480 domination
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00:26:54.580 oppress
00:26:54.980 say
00:26:55.380 blacks
00:26:55.660 and
00:26:55.780 Indians
00:26:56.060 rather
00:26:56.600 it was
00:26:56.820 the
00:26:56.960 interaction
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00:26:58.420 of
00:26:58.560 race
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00:27:00.020 which
00:27:00.480 played
00:27:00.720 a
00:27:00.840 critical
00:27:01.060 role
00:27:01.360 in
00:27:01.500 establishing
00:27:01.900 and
00:27:02.120 maintaining
00:27:02.480 racial
00:27:03.220 and
00:27:03.720 economic
00:27:05.040 subordination
00:27:05.640 the idea
00:27:06.460 being
00:27:06.760 you think
00:27:07.620 that
00:27:07.860 look
00:27:08.320 slavery
00:27:08.880 very bad
00:27:09.960 forms
00:27:10.700 of racial
00:27:11.020 discrimination
00:27:11.520 very bad
00:27:12.140 okay
00:27:12.360 we're
00:27:12.540 going to
00:27:12.680 fix
00:27:12.860 that
00:27:13.020 problem
00:27:13.320 then
00:27:13.460 we're
00:27:13.600 fixed
00:27:13.800 no
00:27:14.020 they
00:27:14.460 say
00:27:14.680 it's
00:27:14.880 the
00:27:15.220 whole
00:27:15.360 thing
00:27:15.540 it's
00:27:15.720 capitalism
00:27:16.240 it's
00:27:16.880 private
00:27:17.200 property
00:27:17.720 it's
00:27:18.260 everything
00:27:18.780 you've
00:27:19.120 got to
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00:27:19.740 this
00:27:19.940 down
00:27:20.140 so
00:27:20.280 there
00:27:20.380 is
00:27:20.920 simply
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00:27:24.720 course
00:27:25.000 senator
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00:27:25.520 you
00:27:25.640 were
00:27:25.740 in
00:27:25.820 law
00:27:26.020 school
00:27:26.240 this
00:27:26.480 was
00:27:26.620 the
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00:27:27.900 craziness
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00:27:28.760 critical
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00:27:29.640 now
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00:27:30.660 has
00:27:30.860 spread
00:27:31.180 into
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00:27:31.520 mainstream
00:27:31.900 it's
00:27:32.140 in
00:27:32.240 every
00:27:32.520 school
00:27:32.780 it's
00:27:32.940 in
00:27:33.040 your
00:27:33.160 high
00:27:33.380 school
00:27:33.660 it's
00:27:43.320 academic
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00:27:45.200 total
00:27:45.680 free
00:27:46.300 speech
00:27:46.740 in
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00:27:47.360 classroom
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00:27:48.560 we
00:27:49.040 love
00:27:49.520 academic
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00:27:51.060 sense
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00:27:51.540 to be
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00:27:51.780 to
00:27:51.920 pursue
00:27:52.160 our
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00:27:52.520 ideas
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00:27:53.080 think
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00:27:53.380 ourselves
00:27:53.840 but
00:27:55.020 does
00:27:55.440 academic
00:27:55.900 freedom
00:27:56.280 mean
00:27:56.640 that
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00:27:57.180 have
00:27:57.420 the
00:27:57.620 right
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00:27:58.540 a
00:27:58.720 radical
00:27:59.420 leftist
00:28:00.200 teacher
00:28:00.620 to
00:28:01.480 indoctrinate
00:28:02.640 your
00:28:02.800 students
00:28:03.140 in
00:28:03.320 whatever
00:28:03.760 you
00:28:04.020 want
00:28:04.240 regardless
00:28:04.640 of
00:28:04.840 what
00:28:04.940 the
00:28:05.020 school
00:28:05.180 board
00:28:05.400 says
00:28:05.620 regardless
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00:28:06.340 what
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00:28:06.980 parents
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00:28:08.200 will
00:28:08.340 harm
00:28:08.600 the
00:28:08.760 students
00:28:09.020 education
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00:28:10.760 to
00:28:10.900 that
00:28:11.060 great
00:28:11.440 conservative
00:28:12.020 William
00:28:12.340 F.
00:28:12.600 Buckley
00:28:12.820 Jr.
00:28:13.560 who
00:28:13.740 kicks
00:28:14.460 off
00:28:14.640 the
00:28:14.760 post-war
00:28:15.080 conservative
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00:28:15.920 with
00:28:16.640 his
00:28:17.080 book
00:28:17.300 God
00:28:17.520 and
00:28:17.640 Man
00:28:17.800 at
00:28:17.940 Yale
00:28:18.180 the
00:28:18.780 subtitle
00:28:19.640 of
00:28:19.740 that
00:28:19.880 book
00:28:20.060 was
00:28:20.340 the
00:28:20.840 superstitions
00:28:21.720 of
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00:28:22.760 freedom
00:28:23.160 in
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00:28:23.920 book
00:28:24.100 he
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00:28:24.480 academic
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00:28:25.540 use
00:28:25.840 it
00:28:25.980 he
00:28:26.320 calls
00:28:26.520 it
00:28:26.620 a
00:28:26.760 hoax
00:28:27.140 he
00:28:27.300 says
00:28:27.460 it
00:28:27.580 just
00:28:27.740 doesn't
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00:28:29.560 that
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00:28:31.040 a
00:28:31.160 right
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00:28:39.020 say
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00:28:39.440 plus
00:28:39.620 2
00:28:39.780 equals
00:28:40.060 4
00:28:40.400 well
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00:28:41.180 what
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00:28:41.360 used
00:28:41.520 to
00:28:41.640 teach
00:28:41.840 these
00:28:42.240 days
00:28:42.460 they're
00:28:42.620 going
00:28:42.700 to
00:28:42.780 teach
00:28:42.960 you
00:28:43.040 2
00:28:43.200 plus
00:28:43.320 2
00:28:43.480 equals
00:28:43.740 5
00:28:44.200 and
00:28:44.720 they're
00:28:44.860 going
00:28:45.000 to
00:28:45.120 teach
00:28:45.360 these
00:28:45.840 sort
00:28:46.200 of
00:28:46.320 radicalism
00:28:47.020 anti-historical
00:28:48.360 untrue
00:28:49.040 really bad
00:28:49.940 stuff
00:28:50.340 and
00:28:51.140 I
00:28:51.420 think
00:28:51.620 it
00:28:51.720 is
00:28:51.840 up
00:28:51.980 to
00:28:52.140 us
00:28:52.460 to
00:28:52.660 summon
00:28:52.860 the
00:28:53.060 courage
00:28:53.400 to
00:28:53.580 say
00:28:53.740 no
00:28:54.180 you
00:28:54.680 know
00:28:54.860 what
00:28:55.100 the
00:28:55.720 critical
00:28:56.540 race
00:28:56.900 theory
00:28:57.240 the
00:28:57.420 legal
00:28:57.720 theory
00:28:58.160 the
00:28:58.680 political
00:28:59.460 correctness
00:28:59.940 in all
00:29:00.280 of
00:29:00.380 its
00:29:00.500 forms
00:29:09.020 our
00:29:09.200 schools
00:29:09.580 well
00:29:10.180 Michael
00:29:10.620 let me
00:29:10.880 say a
00:29:11.400 couple
00:29:11.540 of
00:29:11.680 things
00:29:11.840 in
00:29:11.960 response
00:29:12.300 to
00:29:12.460 that
00:29:12.640 one
00:29:13.140 look
00:29:14.060 does
00:29:14.240 someone
00:29:14.520 have
00:29:14.780 a
00:29:14.920 right
00:29:15.140 to
00:29:15.340 try
00:29:15.620 to
00:29:15.800 indoctrinate
00:29:16.560 kids
00:29:17.400 or
00:29:17.580 everybody
00:29:17.880 else
00:29:18.220 yes
00:29:18.480 you
00:29:18.660 have
00:29:18.760 a
00:29:18.860 right
00:29:19.000 to
00:29:19.140 try
00:29:19.460 what
00:29:20.180 you
00:29:20.300 don't
00:29:20.480 have
00:29:20.640 a
00:29:20.740 right
00:29:20.900 to
00:29:21.060 do
00:29:21.320 is
00:29:22.180 stay
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00:29:23.300 a
00:29:23.420 college
00:29:23.680 or
00:29:23.840 university
00:29:24.340 that
00:29:25.140 is
00:29:25.280 in
00:29:25.380 the
00:29:25.500 business
00:29:25.780 of
00:29:25.960 educating
00:29:26.340 kids
00:29:26.760 that
00:29:26.920 you
00:29:27.040 don't
00:29:27.160 have
00:29:27.280 an
00:29:27.380 entitlement
00:29:27.760 to
00:29:27.960 that
00:29:28.160 job
00:29:28.620 and
00:29:29.180 for
00:29:29.320 any
00:29:29.500 college
00:29:29.860 or
00:29:30.020 university
00:29:30.540 they're
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00:29:32.420 function
00:29:32.920 if
00:29:33.640 they
00:29:33.820 are
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00:29:34.400 their
00:29:34.640 professors
00:29:35.040 to
00:29:35.300 indoctrinate
00:29:35.980 anything
00:29:36.900 look
00:29:37.260 I
00:29:37.480 for
00:29:38.120 several
00:29:38.420 years
00:29:38.700 taught
00:29:39.020 at
00:29:40.040 University
00:29:40.360 of
00:29:40.500 Texas
00:29:40.720 law
00:29:40.980 school
00:29:41.200 I'm
00:29:41.500 a
00:29:41.600 conservative
00:29:42.000 I
00:29:42.260 didn't
00:29:42.420 try
00:29:42.600 to
00:29:42.740 indoctrinate
00:29:43.340 my
00:29:43.520 students
00:29:43.860 to be
00:29:44.120 conservatives
00:29:44.540 I
00:29:44.760 wanted
00:29:44.940 to be
00:29:45.160 a
00:29:45.260 good
00:29:45.400 teacher
00:29:45.720 so
00:29:45.920 I
00:29:46.060 tried
00:29:46.280 to
00:29:46.420 present
00:29:46.740 them
00:29:47.080 I
00:29:47.660 taught
00:29:48.020 a
00:29:48.180 seminar
00:29:48.440 on
00:29:48.740 Supreme
00:29:48.980 Court
00:29:49.200 litigation
00:29:49.600 and
00:29:49.860 so
00:29:49.980 I
00:29:50.120 teach
00:29:51.040 them
00:29:51.280 what
00:29:51.440 the
00:29:51.600 views
00:29:51.880 of
00:29:51.980 different
00:29:52.260 justices
00:29:52.780 were
00:29:52.980 I
00:29:53.100 teach
00:29:53.400 them
00:29:53.560 what
00:29:53.720 Justice
00:29:54.020 Scalia
00:29:54.340 believed
00:29:54.760 I
00:29:54.920 teach
00:29:55.140 them
00:29:55.320 what
00:29:55.500 Ruth
00:29:55.940 Bader
00:29:56.140 Ginsburg
00:29:56.480 believed
00:29:57.040 I
00:29:57.880 would
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00:29:58.680 it
00:29:58.780 say
00:29:58.960 what
00:29:59.140 I
00:29:59.320 thought
00:29:59.600 but
00:29:59.860 actually
00:30:00.440 that
00:30:00.840 very
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00:30:06.880 come
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00:30:07.920 and
00:30:08.240 I
00:30:08.720 would
00:30:08.860 have
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00:30:09.680 argue
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00:30:21.980 and
00:30:22.500 every
00:30:22.720 student
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00:30:23.580 and
00:30:23.720 argue
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00:30:24.660 and
00:30:25.820 on
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00:30:31.480 Justice
00:30:31.820 Roberts
00:30:32.240 the
00:30:32.440 next
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00:30:32.880 you
00:30:32.980 might
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00:30:34.660 Breyer
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00:30:59.840 people
00:31:00.220 arguing
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00:31:02.680 their
00:31:02.860 ideological
00:31:03.380 disposition
00:31:04.060 so
00:31:04.540 I
00:31:05.900 remember
00:31:06.340 there
00:31:06.540 was
00:31:06.740 one
00:31:07.100 very
00:31:07.400 liberal
00:31:07.700 woman
00:31:08.040 who
00:31:08.220 was
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00:31:09.080 behalf
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00:31:13.480 her
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00:31:15.180 was
00:31:15.300 another
00:31:15.560 fellow
00:31:15.860 who
00:31:16.020 was
00:31:16.040 a
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00:31:16.340 Point
00:31:16.580 grad
00:31:16.920 very
00:31:17.180 conservative
00:31:17.660 student
00:31:18.280 who
00:31:19.160 was
00:31:19.360 arguing
00:31:19.720 on
00:31:19.960 behalf
00:31:20.440 of
00:31:20.620 a
00:31:20.820 Gitmo
00:31:21.200 terrorist
00:31:21.840 and
00:31:22.260 I
00:31:22.540 think
00:31:22.760 that
00:31:23.080 also
00:31:23.960 was
00:31:24.320 valuable
00:31:24.820 but
00:31:26.400 let me
00:31:26.940 step
00:31:27.440 back
00:31:27.740 for a
00:31:28.040 second
00:31:28.200 and
00:31:28.340 go
00:31:28.460 back
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00:31:28.840 the
00:31:28.960 question
00:31:29.200 we
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00:31:29.420 talking
00:31:29.640 about
00:31:29.800 a
00:31:29.920 minute
00:31:30.020 ago
00:31:30.340 which
00:31:31.360 is
00:31:31.520 what
00:31:31.740 is
00:31:31.920 critical
00:31:32.260 race
00:31:32.580 theory
00:31:32.800 I'll
00:31:32.980 tell you
00:31:33.180 what
00:31:33.280 I
00:31:33.380 told
00:31:33.600 the
00:31:33.760 reporter
00:31:34.140 as
00:31:34.340 we
00:31:34.420 were
00:31:34.540 walking
00:31:34.840 down
00:31:35.120 the
00:31:35.240 hall
00:31:35.380 of
00:31:35.480 the
00:31:35.580 capital
00:31:35.880 I
00:31:36.060 said
00:31:36.240 listen
00:31:36.580 critical
00:31:37.540 race
00:31:37.820 theory
00:31:38.100 traces
00:31:38.500 its
00:31:38.780 origins
00:31:39.300 to
00:31:39.960 Karl
00:31:40.200 Marx
00:31:40.540 and
00:31:40.680 the
00:31:40.780 Marxist
00:31:41.280 Marx
00:31:42.580 posited
00:31:43.600 that
00:31:43.940 all of
00:31:44.380 society
00:31:44.820 can
00:31:45.060 be
00:31:45.260 explained
00:31:45.780 by
00:31:46.000 a
00:31:46.160 fundamental
00:31:46.480 conflict
00:31:47.140 between
00:31:48.300 the
00:31:48.580 socioeconomic
00:31:49.280 classes
00:31:49.760 between
00:31:50.000 the
00:31:50.220 owners
00:31:50.440 of
00:31:50.640 capital
00:31:51.000 and
00:31:51.140 the
00:31:51.220 workers
00:31:51.580 critical
00:31:52.840 race
00:31:53.200 theory
00:31:53.540 uses
00:31:53.940 that
00:31:54.220 same
00:31:54.580 lens
00:31:55.040 except
00:31:55.460 instead
00:31:56.060 of
00:31:56.560 socioeconomic
00:31:57.780 status
00:31:58.340 it
00:31:59.200 uses
00:31:59.580 race
00:32:00.060 so
00:32:00.520 critical
00:32:00.900 race
00:32:01.260 theory
00:32:01.580 explains
00:32:02.420 everything
00:32:04.140 in
00:32:04.640 America
00:32:05.080 and
00:32:05.300 everything
00:32:05.600 in
00:32:05.820 the
00:32:05.940 world
00:32:06.300 through
00:32:07.040 the
00:32:07.320 lens
00:32:07.660 of
00:32:07.860 racial
00:32:08.220 oppression
00:32:08.660 and
00:32:08.920 through
00:32:09.100 the
00:32:09.300 fundamental
00:32:09.680 lens
00:32:10.140 that
00:32:10.320 all
00:32:10.620 of
00:32:10.780 history
00:32:11.180 all
00:32:11.500 of
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00:32:12.040 is
00:32:12.240 explained
00:32:12.780 by
00:32:13.540 racial
00:32:13.880 oppression
00:32:14.300 and
00:32:14.520 what
00:32:14.640 does
00:32:14.760 critical
00:32:15.060 race
00:32:15.360 theory
00:32:15.660 teach
00:32:16.100 it
00:32:16.720 teaches
00:32:17.080 that
00:32:17.460 all
00:32:17.860 white
00:32:18.180 people
00:32:18.480 100%
00:32:19.280 of
00:32:19.400 white
00:32:19.580 people
00:32:19.860 are
00:32:20.040 racist
00:32:20.340 if
00:32:20.600 you
00:32:20.760 are
00:32:20.880 white
00:32:21.180 you
00:32:21.640 are
00:32:21.800 racist
00:32:22.180 it
00:32:22.420 is
00:32:22.560 inherent
00:32:22.980 in
00:32:23.200 being
00:32:23.400 you
00:32:23.540 can
00:32:23.640 never
00:32:23.820 change
00:32:24.100 it
00:32:24.280 it
00:32:24.960 teaches
00:32:25.340 that
00:32:25.760 you
00:32:26.740 can
00:32:26.900 never
00:32:27.080 change
00:32:27.440 it
00:32:27.560 there's
00:32:27.740 nothing
00:32:27.960 you
00:32:28.160 can
00:32:28.320 do
00:32:28.520 if
00:32:28.660 you
00:32:28.820 say
00:32:29.080 you
00:32:29.240 want
00:32:29.400 to
00:32:29.520 change
00:32:29.760 it
00:32:29.860 you're
00:32:30.000 being
00:32:30.240 racist
00:32:30.620 that
00:32:30.940 it
00:32:31.340 is
00:32:31.560 just
00:32:32.580 like
00:32:33.140 the
00:32:33.840 capitalist
00:32:34.460 in
00:32:36.160 Marx's
00:32:36.800 world
00:32:37.140 can
00:32:37.420 never
00:32:37.700 cease
00:32:38.160 to
00:32:38.380 be
00:32:38.500 a
00:32:38.660 capitalist
00:32:39.060 unless
00:32:40.180 he
00:32:41.280 no
00:32:41.420 longer
00:32:41.640 has
00:32:41.860 any
00:32:42.020 capital
00:32:42.320 so
00:32:43.040 unless
00:32:43.300 you
00:32:43.520 are
00:32:43.620 no
00:32:43.780 longer
00:32:44.060 white
00:32:44.380 you
00:32:44.640 can
00:32:44.820 never
00:32:45.040 cease
00:32:45.340 to
00:32:45.480 be
00:32:45.600 a
00:32:45.720 racist
00:32:45.980 it's
00:32:46.240 the
00:32:46.420 same
00:32:46.860 absolute
00:32:47.900 determinism
00:32:48.720 critical
00:32:49.920 race
00:32:50.240 theory
00:32:50.500 also
00:32:50.800 teaches
00:32:51.200 that
00:32:51.420 America
00:32:51.820 is
00:32:52.060 inherently
00:32:52.460 racist
00:32:52.900 the
00:32:53.220 system
00:32:53.720 is
00:32:53.880 racist
00:32:54.140 you
00:32:54.340 hear
00:32:54.540 this
00:32:54.780 phrase
00:32:55.480 systemic
00:32:56.540 racism
00:32:57.100 and
00:32:58.120 people
00:32:58.400 don't
00:32:58.700 quite
00:32:58.960 know
00:32:59.140 what
00:32:59.300 it
00:32:59.420 means
00:32:59.760 and
00:32:59.900 if
00:33:00.160 you
00:33:00.260 get
00:33:00.440 someone
00:33:00.720 who
00:33:00.900 says
00:33:01.200 well
00:33:01.980 no
00:33:02.220 I
00:33:02.380 don't
00:33:02.540 believe
00:33:02.760 in
00:33:02.900 systemic
00:33:03.280 racism
00:33:03.780 people
00:33:04.060 go
00:33:04.260 well
00:33:04.500 hold
00:33:04.940 on
00:33:05.280 a
00:33:05.400 second
00:33:05.500 are
00:33:05.620 you
00:33:05.720 saying
00:33:05.900 there's
00:33:06.100 no
00:33:06.240 racism
00:33:06.640 in
00:33:06.820 the
00:33:06.900 world
00:33:07.120 that's
00:33:07.800 crazy
00:33:08.120 of
00:33:08.300 course
00:33:08.480 they're
00:33:08.700 bigots
00:33:09.120 systemic
00:33:10.220 racism
00:33:10.700 is
00:33:10.960 not
00:33:11.240 saying
00:33:11.660 there's
00:33:11.940 racism
00:33:12.340 in
00:33:12.520 the
00:33:12.600 world
00:33:12.800 there
00:33:13.040 have
00:33:13.660 always
00:33:14.020 been
00:33:14.240 bigots
00:33:14.580 there
00:33:14.720 probably
00:33:14.960 always
00:33:15.260 will
00:33:15.460 be
00:33:15.620 bigots
00:33:16.040 systemic
00:33:17.300 racists
00:33:17.860 is
00:33:18.040 saying
00:33:18.360 the
00:33:18.560 entire
00:33:19.120 system
00:33:19.880 is
00:33:20.660 inherently
00:33:21.220 racist
00:33:21.740 the
00:33:21.980 criminal
00:33:22.240 justice
00:33:22.640 system
00:33:23.120 the
00:33:23.320 legal
00:33:23.580 system
00:33:24.120 the
00:33:24.920 political
00:33:25.340 system
00:33:25.820 everything
00:33:26.400 that
00:33:26.960 exists
00:33:27.400 in
00:33:27.600 America
00:33:28.020 is
00:33:29.340 inherently
00:33:29.840 racist
00:33:30.460 the
00:33:31.640 New York
00:33:31.980 Times
00:33:32.340 embodied
00:33:32.840 this
00:33:33.180 with
00:33:33.340 the
00:33:33.480 1619
00:33:34.100 project
00:33:34.600 where
00:33:34.840 they
00:33:34.960 tried
00:33:35.240 to
00:33:35.440 rewrite
00:33:36.020 American
00:33:36.440 history
00:33:36.820 to
00:33:37.980 say
00:33:38.260 that
00:33:38.440 America
00:33:38.800 wasn't
00:33:39.200 founded
00:33:39.560 in
00:33:39.760 1776
00:33:40.600 it
00:33:40.940 wasn't
00:33:41.220 founded
00:33:41.500 in
00:33:41.680 1787
00:33:42.340 it
00:33:43.080 was
00:33:43.300 founded
00:33:43.820 in
00:33:44.560 1619
00:33:45.520 when
00:33:45.840 they
00:33:45.980 say
00:33:46.200 the
00:33:46.380 first
00:33:46.640 slaves
00:33:47.120 arrived
00:33:47.600 on
00:33:47.820 the
00:33:48.120 American
00:33:48.480 soil
00:33:48.920 and
00:33:49.520 they
00:33:49.640 go
00:33:49.800 on
00:33:50.040 to
00:33:50.180 say
00:33:50.320 the
00:33:50.460 entire
00:33:50.760 history
00:33:51.140 of
00:33:51.280 America
00:33:51.700 is
00:33:52.820 understood
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00:33:53.580 a
00:33:53.740 history
00:33:54.140 of
00:33:54.380 fighting
00:33:54.680 to
00:33:54.920 preserve
00:33:55.300 slavery
00:33:55.820 and
00:33:56.000 to
00:33:56.120 continue
00:33:56.540 white
00:33:56.900 supremacy
00:33:57.440 now
00:33:58.280 all
00:33:58.660 of
00:33:58.820 this
00:33:58.980 is
00:33:59.140 complete
00:33:59.580 and
00:33:59.780 utter
00:34:00.020 garbage
00:34:00.460 and
00:34:00.660 what's
00:34:00.980 terrifying
00:34:01.380 about
00:34:01.600 critical
00:34:01.860 race
00:34:02.140 theory
00:34:02.440 is
00:34:03.380 it's
00:34:03.620 infiltrating
00:34:04.240 our
00:34:04.460 schools
00:34:04.860 if you
00:34:05.240 have
00:34:05.420 grade
00:34:05.680 school
00:34:05.900 kids
00:34:06.300 at
00:34:06.520 a
00:34:06.660 lot
00:34:06.840 of
00:34:06.940 schools
00:34:07.180 in
00:34:07.320 America
00:34:07.700 they're
00:34:08.660 being
00:34:09.000 taught
00:34:09.540 this
00:34:10.920 nonsense
00:34:11.480 but
00:34:12.960 I
00:34:13.160 think
00:34:13.380 understanding
00:34:14.340 the
00:34:16.100 lies
00:34:16.720 that are
00:34:17.020 at
00:34:17.180 the
00:34:17.360 heart
00:34:17.660 of
00:34:17.820 it
00:34:18.040 and
00:34:18.260 this
00:34:18.660 is
00:34:18.880 Marxism
00:34:19.660 combined
00:34:21.620 with
00:34:22.300 intense
00:34:23.220 racial
00:34:23.760 bigotry
00:34:24.280 if
00:34:24.420 you
00:34:24.540 put
00:34:24.740 Marxism
00:34:25.380 and
00:34:25.820 racial
00:34:26.140 bigotry
00:34:26.660 in a
00:34:26.880 blender
00:34:27.180 you
00:34:27.900 get
00:34:28.060 critical
00:34:28.400 race
00:34:28.700 theory
00:34:29.020 and
00:34:29.200 this
00:34:29.360 is
00:34:29.480 what's
00:34:29.700 being
00:34:29.840 taught
00:34:30.080 to
00:34:30.240 our
00:34:30.400 kids
00:34:30.680 and
00:34:31.320 what
00:34:31.600 I
00:34:31.720 think
00:34:31.840 is
00:34:32.000 helpful
00:34:32.300 about
00:34:32.600 your
00:34:32.760 book
00:34:33.080 is
00:34:33.280 for
00:34:34.380 folks
00:34:34.740 that
00:34:34.880 are
00:34:34.960 trying
00:34:35.200 to
00:34:35.360 understand
00:34:35.660 this
00:34:36.200 your
00:34:36.900 book
00:34:37.160 does
00:34:37.400 a
00:34:37.540 good
00:34:37.700 job
00:34:38.040 of
00:34:38.220 tracing
00:34:38.680 the
00:34:38.980 history
00:34:39.380 of
00:34:39.680 it
00:34:39.800 and
00:34:40.100 making
00:34:40.780 it
00:34:41.000 so
00:34:41.140 you
00:34:41.280 can
00:34:41.420 understand
00:34:41.920 what
00:34:42.880 really
00:34:43.100 is
00:34:43.240 going
00:34:43.420 on
00:34:43.640 well
00:34:43.860 this
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00:34:44.300 such
00:34:44.780 a
00:34:44.920 good
00:34:45.080 point
00:34:45.380 that
00:34:45.720 you're
00:34:46.020 making
00:34:46.320 about
00:34:46.500 the
00:34:46.640 classroom
00:34:47.080 which
00:34:47.300 is
00:34:47.440 sometimes
00:34:48.360 to
00:34:48.760 really
00:34:49.180 understand
00:34:49.700 your
00:34:49.960 own
00:34:50.280 views
00:34:50.680 it
00:34:51.360 helps
00:34:51.660 to
00:34:51.880 make
00:34:52.080 the
00:34:52.240 argument
00:34:52.620 from
00:34:52.840 the
00:34:52.960 other
00:34:53.120 side
00:34:53.380 and
00:34:53.480 so
00:34:53.580 what
00:34:53.700 I
00:34:53.960 try
00:34:54.160 to
00:34:54.260 do
00:34:54.360 in
00:34:54.460 speechless
00:34:54.820 is
00:34:55.400 I
00:34:55.500 go
00:34:55.620 all
00:34:55.780 the
00:34:55.900 way
00:34:56.040 back
00:34:56.420 I
00:34:56.820 don't
00:34:57.080 want
00:34:57.320 any
00:34:57.660 loose
00:34:58.060 ends
00:34:58.320 I
00:34:58.460 want
00:34:58.560 to
00:34:58.640 make
00:34:58.800 sure
00:34:58.980 I'm
00:34:59.160 really
00:34:59.540 making
00:34:59.900 the
00:35:00.080 right
00:35:00.660 connections
00:35:01.080 here
00:35:01.340 we've
00:35:01.700 got
00:35:01.760 the
00:35:01.880 right
00:35:02.040 intellectual
00:35:02.460 pedigree
00:35:02.920 of
00:35:03.140 what
00:35:03.360 this
00:35:03.580 phenomenon
00:35:04.460 is
00:35:04.900 and
00:35:05.600 to
00:35:05.860 say
00:35:06.040 okay
00:35:06.340 here
00:35:06.820 are
00:35:06.980 the
00:35:07.140 best
00:35:07.580 arguments
00:35:08.140 that
00:35:08.580 these
00:35:08.800 guys
00:35:09.060 are
00:35:09.220 making
00:35:09.500 here's
00:35:09.800 the
00:35:09.960 absolute
00:35:10.440 strongest
00:35:10.880 argument
00:35:11.300 here's
00:35:11.900 why
00:35:12.080 it's
00:35:12.280 bunk
00:35:12.760 here
00:35:13.260 is
00:35:13.440 why
00:35:13.700 it
00:35:13.900 is
00:35:14.040 evil
00:35:14.880 here
00:35:15.160 is
00:35:15.300 why
00:35:15.480 it's
00:35:15.680 going
00:35:15.780 to
00:35:15.880 destroy
00:35:16.300 the
00:35:16.740 country
00:35:17.100 if
00:35:17.360 we
00:35:17.480 let
00:35:17.720 it
00:35:17.840 continue
00:35:18.160 to
00:35:18.320 go
00:35:18.460 on
00:35:18.640 even
00:35:18.780 more
00:35:19.020 so
00:35:19.320 than
00:35:19.760 it
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00:35:20.700 and
00:35:21.180 I
00:35:21.360 think
00:35:21.600 frankly
00:35:22.340 if
00:35:22.580 I
00:35:22.700 had
00:35:23.140 to
00:35:23.300 pitch
00:35:23.480 it
00:35:23.660 to
00:35:24.420 you
00:35:24.580 senator
00:35:24.860 the
00:35:25.600 best
00:35:26.240 thing
00:35:26.440 about
00:35:26.680 this
00:35:26.880 book
00:35:27.060 speechless
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00:35:28.480 you
00:35:28.580 get
00:35:28.720 to
00:35:28.880 learn
00:35:29.180 what
00:35:29.480 these
00:35:29.680 kook
00:35:30.180 crazy
00:35:30.920 just
00:35:31.600 terrible
00:35:32.180 dreary
00:35:32.880 polysyllabic
00:35:34.480 awful
00:35:34.880 writers
00:35:35.260 say
00:35:35.620 without
00:35:36.300 having
00:35:36.660 to
00:35:36.860 slog
00:35:37.160 through
00:35:37.400 10,000
00:35:37.920 pages
00:35:38.260 of
00:35:38.580 their
00:35:38.760 impenetrable
00:35:39.560 terrible
00:35:40.320 prose
00:35:40.660 and
00:35:41.500 Michael
00:35:41.760 I
00:35:41.920 do
00:35:42.040 want
00:35:42.140 to
00:35:42.240 clarify
00:35:42.500 one
00:35:42.880 thing
00:35:43.180 if
00:35:43.380 someone
00:35:44.380 goes
00:35:44.720 on
00:35:44.900 Amazon
00:35:45.220 say
00:35:48.640 out
00:35:48.860 the
00:35:48.960 22nd
00:35:49.800 they
00:35:50.220 could
00:35:50.460 also
00:35:51.020 bundle
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00:35:52.200 say
00:35:52.500 with
00:35:52.700 my
00:35:52.900 book
00:35:53.120 one
00:35:53.340 vote
00:35:53.520 away
00:35:53.800 and
00:35:53.980 they
00:35:54.100 could
00:35:54.240 buy
00:35:54.460 one
00:35:54.680 vote
00:35:54.880 away
00:35:55.100 and
00:35:55.260 speechless
00:35:55.640 so
00:35:56.020 they
00:35:56.200 could
00:35:56.340 understand
00:35:56.840 the
00:35:57.440 theoretical
00:35:57.900 origins
00:35:58.580 of
00:35:59.100 censorship
00:35:59.660 and
00:35:59.940 cancel
00:36:00.240 culture
00:36:00.640 and
00:36:00.800 they
00:36:00.920 could
00:36:01.040 understand
00:36:01.440 the
00:36:01.600 legal
00:36:01.780 protections
00:36:02.240 we
00:36:02.520 have
00:36:02.780 and
00:36:03.260 you
00:36:03.360 could
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