Verdict with Ted Cruz - Speechless

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00:00:04.680 Communism.

00:00:06.420 Student radicals.

00:00:08.480 Second wave feminism. 0.98

00:00:12.220 Wokeness.

00:00:14.120 Political correctness.

00:00:16.340 Critical race theory.

00:00:18.800 Pete Buttigieg.

00:00:20.740 All of these are interconnected.

00:00:23.740 And all of these are explained in a new book

00:00:26.200 by the co-host of this podcast.

00:00:28.340 This is Verdict with Michael Knowles.

00:00:37.940 And so the tables are turned, my friend.

00:00:41.200 You're hawking a book.

00:00:42.820 And actually this book,

00:00:44.060 am I right that this book actually has words?

00:00:46.220 Senator, this is backwards in so many ways.

00:00:48.960 You opening the show,

00:00:50.620 Verdict with Michael Knowles,

00:00:51.880 and craziest of all,

00:00:53.800 a Michael Knowles book that actually has words in it.

00:00:57.040 It is true.

00:00:57.560 I can make that promise right now.

00:00:59.140 And the words are pretty scary.

00:01:00.440 Like on every page.

00:01:02.300 On almost every page.

00:01:04.080 You did write some of the words.

00:01:06.180 I thank you very much for giving me a very kind blurb.

00:01:09.840 I'll give you all your bribe money afterward.

00:01:12.140 Obviously, I owe a lot to all these blurbists here.

00:01:15.240 I can be bribed in liquor and tobacco.

00:01:18.700 Very good.

00:01:19.460 So let's talk about this book.

00:01:21.460 Let's talk.

00:01:21.840 I mean, the topic of this book,

00:01:23.740 censorship, speech codes, woke culture,

00:01:28.220 political correctness.

00:01:30.680 You start the book by explaining where all this came from.

00:01:34.360 And you trace it to some 1930s communists.

00:01:41.060 What's up with that?

00:01:41.820 Well, like all aspects of political correctness,

00:01:46.880 the terms keep changing.

00:01:48.580 So it's a little bit tricky to trace.

00:01:50.420 That's kind of the central feature of PC,

00:01:52.260 is they change all the words.

00:01:53.600 And the idea is if you can redefine the words,

00:01:55.600 you can redefine reality.

00:01:57.480 So it's difficult to look back.

00:02:00.320 I think a lot of people believe

00:02:01.460 that political correctness began,

00:02:03.320 I don't know, in the 90s or the 80s,

00:02:05.140 the kind of battles on campus.

00:02:06.720 Or maybe some people say it went back a little further

00:02:08.620 to those student radicals in the 60s,

00:02:11.000 the advent of nowism to the United States.

00:02:14.020 Some people say it goes back to the critical theorists

00:02:16.480 who now are really center stage

00:02:18.760 because of critical race theory,

00:02:20.940 this new academic movement

00:02:22.640 that is really threatening so much

00:02:24.360 at the heart of our country.

00:02:25.360 And some people think it goes back even further.

00:02:27.900 And I think it goes back,

00:02:29.700 as so many evil things do,

00:02:31.600 to a statement from Karl Marx.

00:02:34.080 Karl Marx, in a letter to Arnold Ruge,

00:02:37.260 called for the ruthless criticism

00:02:39.920 of all that exists.

00:02:43.040 No small feat to criticize everything,

00:02:45.620 but it's a fallen world,

00:02:46.480 and so everything's open to criticism.

00:02:48.560 And what the Marxist theorists

00:02:51.360 who came about in the 20s and the 30s realized.

00:02:53.480 So let me stop you there, Michael.

00:02:56.460 Why would Marx want to criticize all that exists?

00:03:00.000 What is to be served by doing it?

00:03:02.060 Marx wanted a total revolution,

00:03:05.160 a complete reordering of society from the ground up.

00:03:09.340 Actually, Whitaker Chambers,

00:03:10.800 a wonderful writer who wrote the great book Witness,

00:03:13.320 he was an ex-communist.

00:03:14.900 He famously said that communism

00:03:16.780 is not the world's newest ideology.

00:03:19.460 It's actually the second oldest ideology in the world.

00:03:22.480 Goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden,

00:03:24.760 when the serpent says,

00:03:26.280 ye shall be as gods.

00:03:28.120 And that's the aim.

00:03:29.100 This is nothing less than the total upending of the world.

00:03:31.800 But the problem was this.

00:03:33.680 Karl Marx dies a failure.

00:03:36.600 The workers of the world did not unite.

00:03:38.900 The revolution did not materialize.

00:03:41.120 It turned out that those poor oppressed workers

00:03:43.220 actually kind of liked their countries

00:03:46.340 and their traditions and their way of life.

00:03:48.260 They actually liked it more

00:03:49.160 than the kooky leftist theories.

00:03:50.580 And so, Michael, I'm going to stop you periodically

00:03:53.040 as we discuss this just to ask,

00:03:55.040 well, the kind of questions

00:03:56.040 that you're normally pestering me with

00:03:57.600 and I'm sort of enjoying asking you.

00:04:00.340 But let's start with communism.

00:04:02.200 All right, that's a big scary word

00:04:03.520 that gets tossed around a lot.

00:04:05.140 But what does communism mean?

00:04:06.980 What is it?

00:04:07.860 Well, there are these two related terms,

00:04:10.060 socialism and communism.

00:04:11.600 It's a little confusing to figure out

00:04:13.220 what the relationship is.

00:04:14.760 And Paul Kenger, the political scientist,

00:04:16.720 once described it to me.

00:04:17.740 He said, Michael, Christians go to heaven

00:04:20.260 and socialists go to communism.

00:04:22.860 So you've got this takeover of the means of production

00:04:25.820 by the workers,

00:04:26.900 which really means by the state under socialism.

00:04:30.000 And this is going to lead to a utopia of communism

00:04:33.860 that just always seems a little bit out of reach.

00:04:38.960 You know, looking back now on the communist movement,

00:04:43.440 it's hard to imagine it.

00:04:44.980 But at the time, especially at the turn of the 20th century,

00:04:48.560 all the smart people were communists.

00:04:50.560 They really, I mean, this was a major intellectual movement.

00:04:53.460 And when people saw how that turned out

00:04:56.080 under Stalin in particular,

00:04:58.000 a lot of them became disillusioned.

00:05:00.280 And you saw people trying to consign it

00:05:03.900 to the ash heap of history.

00:05:05.240 Now, unfortunately, all these years later,

00:05:07.200 it's coming back.

00:05:08.140 But there's a big distinction.

00:05:09.420 There's a big difference.

00:05:10.120 Marx viewed man as primarily an economic being, right?

00:05:15.760 He viewed all of this class struggle

00:05:17.620 in the history of the world

00:05:19.360 as one of economic class.

00:05:22.960 What the later Marxists understood,

00:05:26.200 people like Gramsci,

00:05:27.260 people like the critical theorists,

00:05:28.600 Marcuse, the people who we're now all talking about,

00:05:32.120 is that it has much more to do with culture.

00:05:35.420 And if you can get a hold of the common sense,

00:05:37.420 if you can get a hold of the institutions,

00:05:39.300 you will have a much easier time

00:05:40.720 effecting a revolution

00:05:42.900 through what Gramsci called a war of position.

00:05:45.800 Take the positions of influence

00:05:47.200 in all of the institutions.

00:05:49.160 And then Hemingway describes going bankrupt

00:05:51.760 as it happens gradually, then suddenly.

00:05:54.340 So it happened gradually from the 20s

00:05:56.300 to say the 90s or 2000s.

00:05:58.240 Now I think we're in the suddenly phase.

00:05:59.860 All right, so let me back you up a little bit.

00:06:01.980 You know, the way I think about socialism and communism

00:06:04.980 is that socialism is a means of structuring the economy.

00:06:09.080 So socialism stands in contrast to capitalism.

00:06:12.400 Capitalism is what we have,

00:06:13.960 at least in some form in the United States,

00:06:16.300 where you could own capital.

00:06:17.640 You can start a business.

00:06:18.520 You can own property.

00:06:19.480 You can hire workers.

00:06:20.680 You can build a business

00:06:21.680 and create opportunity and prosperity and jobs.

00:06:26.100 Socialism is an economic system

00:06:28.180 where the government owns the means

00:06:30.820 of production or distribution in an economy.

00:06:33.040 So rather than you starting a business,

00:06:35.160 the government owns the business.

00:06:37.160 And it redistributes wealth

00:06:40.100 from those who have it to those who don't.

00:06:42.700 Now, communism is,

00:06:44.740 it is a system of governance,

00:06:46.480 but it is also a way of looking at the world

00:06:49.560 about how that system of governance comes to pass.

00:06:52.360 And socialism is the economic system of communism.

00:06:55.680 So every communist country practices socialism.

00:06:57.860 But communist countries have with them as well dictatorship.

00:07:03.940 And Karl Marx, he built on the works of Hegel and others

00:07:08.200 that posited a dialectic, posited a conflict.

00:07:13.400 And they also were economic determinists.

00:07:16.260 And so they believed that economic forces

00:07:19.160 were at work in the world that couldn't be stopped,

00:07:22.360 that would naturally and inevitably result

00:07:24.860 result in the way Marx viewed the world

00:07:27.460 is as a never-ending conflict

00:07:30.220 between the owners of capital

00:07:32.000 and those who were working,

00:07:35.220 those who worked for them.

00:07:36.620 And communism was a revolution of the proletariat,

00:07:39.860 a revolution of the working men and women

00:07:41.600 to overthrow the owners of capital

00:07:44.000 and to transition into a socialist economy instead

00:07:49.120 where the government owns the capital

00:07:50.640 and there are no capitalists anymore.

00:07:54.980 That distinction,

00:07:56.860 you mentioned that there was a time

00:07:59.620 when all the smart people were communists.

00:08:02.020 You know, if you go to our university faculties,

00:08:04.000 that still is the case for an awful lot of them.

00:08:07.400 The problem with communism,

00:08:08.980 one of the many problems, is in practice.

00:08:11.580 So it was theorized that it was dictatorship

00:08:13.720 of the proletariat,

00:08:14.700 that it was the people that were ruling.

00:08:16.680 But in every communist country we've had,

00:08:18.720 there's always been a brutal dictator,

00:08:20.800 a brutal communist government

00:08:22.080 that enforces its power

00:08:24.480 through torture and murder and persecution

00:08:27.620 because it is the dominance of the state.

00:08:29.880 If the state owns everything,

00:08:31.460 that means the state's in charge of everything.

00:08:33.740 And so we've seen communism doesn't work.

00:08:36.340 But, all right, all of that is background

00:08:38.560 to say, well, how is that connected

00:08:42.220 to political correctness and cancel culture

00:08:46.100 and woke corporations and critical race theory?

00:08:49.560 And you mentioned a guy, Gramsci,

00:08:51.900 and you said, all of us are talking about him.

00:08:53.460 And I got to say,

00:08:53.960 I don't know what circles you're running in.

00:08:56.900 The folks I'm palling around with,

00:08:59.660 you know, Gramsci doesn't get mentioned

00:09:00.940 more than six, seven times a day.

00:09:02.260 At most, at most.

00:09:04.500 All right, who was this guy?

00:09:06.200 Why should anyone care who this guy was?

00:09:08.320 So, I think your point is so great, Senator,

00:09:11.040 because, one, you've got this aspect

00:09:13.940 of economic determinism.

00:09:15.400 You've also got historical determinism.

00:09:17.500 That's where you get these phrases

00:09:18.380 like the right side of history,

00:09:20.080 the idea deeply held by the radicals today,

00:09:22.980 just as it was then,

00:09:24.200 that history is going to move in that direction.

00:09:27.220 And so you've got rube conservative reactionaries

00:09:30.460 like you and me.

00:09:31.640 But we're going to stand in the way

00:09:33.440 only for some time.

00:09:34.240 Eventually, history is going to go in their direction.

00:09:36.720 You get a guy like Antonio Gramsci,

00:09:39.240 who is the founder of the Communist Party of Italy,

00:09:41.700 a brilliant Marxist theoretician.

00:09:44.340 He's thrown in jail by Benito Mussolini.

00:09:46.840 Mussolini did many terrible things,

00:09:48.860 not the least of which was throwing Gramsci in jail,

00:09:52.480 not because Gramsci didn't deserve it,

00:09:54.500 but because it gave Gramsci an opportunity

00:09:56.380 to write his greatest work,

00:09:58.000 the prison notebooks.

00:09:58.940 They actually said at Gramsci's trial in Italy

00:10:00.960 that they had to stop this mind

00:10:03.520 from working for 20 years.

00:10:05.540 So what did they do?

00:10:06.180 They put him in a cell

00:10:06.840 and gave him a pen and paper.

00:10:07.880 Not a very good way

00:10:08.540 to stop a mind from working.

00:10:10.100 And he understood.

00:10:11.880 And I think when a lot of people hear

00:10:13.620 that this has something to do with Marx,

00:10:15.260 something to do with communism,

00:10:16.320 something to do with Marxists,

00:10:17.720 they're going to say,

00:10:18.300 this sounds like a kooky conspiracy theory.

00:10:20.060 I don't see people marching around

00:10:22.140 with hammers and sickles out there.

00:10:24.240 You're right,

00:10:24.900 because this is much more subtle.

00:10:28.180 Gramsci understood

00:10:28.920 you need to get a hold of the common sense.

00:10:30.760 You need to have what he called

00:10:31.880 cultural hegemony.

00:10:33.900 Right now, the conservatives

00:10:35.120 have the cultural hegemony.

00:10:36.280 It's why we can't get our theories through.

00:10:38.020 But if we begin to dominate the culture,

00:10:40.820 that will help.

00:10:41.840 So you have out of that growth

00:10:43.760 what's called the Frankfurt School,

00:10:46.360 formerly called the Institute for Marxism,

00:10:48.080 which develops in the United States.

00:10:50.040 And it's more of these

00:10:51.440 radical Marxist academics

00:10:53.360 who create something called critical theory.

00:10:56.900 And what is critical theory?

00:10:58.240 There's a lot of jargon.

00:10:59.280 I've got a whole big book here

00:11:00.380 on critical race theory,

00:11:01.740 which is a derivation of it.

00:11:03.380 But at bottom, the theory is simple.

00:11:04.980 The theory is to criticize.

00:11:07.700 And what critical race theory

00:11:10.100 in particular undertakes

00:11:12.400 is nothing less than

00:11:14.020 the total dismantling of the system.

00:11:17.400 There are just a couple quotes in here,

00:11:19.040 because I know,

00:11:20.040 just like nobody wants to talk

00:11:21.120 about Gramsci at a dinner party,

00:11:22.580 nobody wants to work their way

00:11:23.780 through this drivel

00:11:24.700 of critical race theory.

00:11:26.140 But just a couple passages

00:11:27.680 to give you a sense

00:11:28.620 of what this thing is.

00:11:30.180 Kimberly Crenshaw

00:11:30.940 is widely credited

00:11:33.020 with popularizing ideas

00:11:34.880 like critical race theory

00:11:35.820 or intersectionality.

00:11:37.120 She writes,

00:11:38.860 the problem with identity politics

00:11:41.020 is not that it fails

00:11:42.900 to transcend difference,

00:11:44.400 as some critics charge,

00:11:45.700 but rather the opposite,

00:11:47.100 that it frequently conflates

00:11:48.580 or ignores intra-group differences.

00:11:51.160 And ignoring differences

00:11:52.220 within groups

00:11:52.940 contributes to tension among groups,

00:11:54.980 another problem of identity politics.

00:11:56.780 What she's saying is

00:11:57.780 the problem with identity politics

00:11:58.980 is it doesn't go far enough.

00:12:01.400 It only talks about,

00:12:02.680 say, black people and women,

00:12:03.900 but it doesn't talk about black women.

00:12:05.480 Talks about black women and lesbians,

00:12:07.240 but not about black lesbians. 0.93

00:12:08.720 Talks about this

00:12:09.360 that goes all the way down

00:12:10.620 to an endless pit

00:12:12.500 of identities

00:12:13.560 that are seen to be posited

00:12:14.800 against one another

00:12:15.740 to divvy up society.

00:12:17.540 So I got to say, Michael,

00:12:19.360 it strikes me

00:12:20.340 that you're exceptionally poor

00:12:22.680 at hawking your book

00:12:24.160 because you actually pulled out

00:12:26.240 another book

00:12:26.800 and read from the other book,

00:12:27.820 not your book

00:12:28.500 that's sitting next to you,

00:12:29.500 but some giant red book

00:12:31.060 that you told us

00:12:32.100 is really crappy

00:12:32.740 and then you said,

00:12:33.340 I want to read you

00:12:33.940 the really crappy book.

00:12:37.540 So let's cut to

00:12:39.120 the hundreds of thousands

00:12:41.640 of people

00:12:42.160 who have downloaded

00:12:43.380 this podcast

00:12:44.160 and are listening to it now.

00:12:45.820 Why should they go online

00:12:47.320 right now and buy your book?

00:12:48.240 Because we have totally failed

00:12:52.260 to stop this scourge.

00:12:54.020 What do you want to call it?

00:12:54.660 We've been talking about

00:12:55.520 neo-Marxism.

00:12:56.920 We've been talking

00:12:57.460 about political correctness.

00:12:58.460 We talk about wokeism.

00:12:59.320 We talk about critical race theory,

00:13:00.480 right?

00:13:00.660 All of these terms.

00:13:03.980 We've utterly failed

00:13:05.280 on the right.

00:13:06.120 And it's not like

00:13:07.160 we haven't been talking

00:13:08.140 about political correctness.

00:13:09.460 We've been talking about it

00:13:10.500 till we're blue in the face

00:13:11.860 for 30 years now.

00:13:12.760 And yet it seems

00:13:13.500 that the more we fight,

00:13:14.780 the more ground we lose.

00:13:15.900 Why is that?

00:13:16.840 I think it's because

00:13:17.560 we've misunderstood

00:13:18.600 what political correctness is.

00:13:20.540 I think that we have not

00:13:21.340 taken these writers seriously.

00:13:23.080 Guys like Gramsci,

00:13:24.120 you know,

00:13:24.380 actually just to give you

00:13:25.020 a sense of Gramsci,

00:13:26.140 do you know that the only guy

00:13:27.640 who has translated

00:13:29.980 Gramsci's works

00:13:30.800 for the American audience

00:13:31.820 is a man named

00:13:33.180 Joseph Buttigieg.

00:13:34.960 Now, if that name

00:13:35.720 sounds familiar,

00:13:36.620 it's because he was

00:13:37.680 the father

00:13:38.260 of presidential candidate

00:13:40.420 and now

00:13:41.220 transportation secretary,

00:13:43.520 Pete Buttigieg, rather.

00:13:45.380 So you've got one

00:13:46.100 of the most moderate

00:13:47.020 kind of milquetoast

00:13:48.000 Democrat candidates

00:13:48.840 has this radical

00:13:50.040 intellectual pedigree,

00:13:51.420 Joseph Buttigieg,

00:13:52.120 president of the Gramsci Society.

00:13:53.980 Wait, wait, wait.

00:13:54.360 You're saying Mayor Pete,

00:13:56.820 sweet, inoffensive Mayor Pete,

00:13:59.780 pretend to be a centrist Mayor Pete,

00:14:02.180 that his dad

00:14:03.280 was a radical communist academic

00:14:06.320 who translated

00:14:08.760 and edited

00:14:09.560 this Italian communist

00:14:11.600 that no one has ever heard of

00:14:12.640 but is really dangerous.

00:14:13.420 One of the most radical academics

00:14:16.020 out there.

00:14:17.140 And I pointed out

00:14:18.820 Did he like lead a society

00:14:21.120 or anything on this?

00:14:21.960 You might call it

00:14:22.900 the International Gramsci Society.

00:14:24.820 Yes, he was one of the co-founders.

00:14:26.620 He was a president

00:14:27.460 of that society.

00:14:28.880 It just shows you

00:14:30.260 how far the rot goes

00:14:32.400 that even in the

00:14:33.420 milquetoast mild corners

00:14:35.380 of the liberal establishment,

00:14:36.580 you have this

00:14:37.740 kind of radicalism.

00:14:39.360 And I think

00:14:39.960 the problem here,

00:14:40.900 I think the reason

00:14:41.780 that we have lost

00:14:43.120 is because political correctness

00:14:45.420 or wokeism

00:14:46.080 or whatever you want to call it,

00:14:47.520 it lays a trap

00:14:48.680 for conservatives.

00:14:50.260 It sets out

00:14:51.680 with this purely

00:14:52.260 negative purpose, right?

00:14:53.160 They've been saying it

00:14:53.700 from the very beginning

00:14:54.480 and you totally see this

00:14:55.560 in the 60s.

00:14:56.180 It just wants to tear down society. 0.94

00:14:58.620 It just wants to rip it 0.52

00:14:59.640 down to the ground.

00:15:00.740 And what it does

00:15:02.940 is it calls

00:15:04.100 two different reactions

00:15:05.620 from conservatives.

00:15:06.420 The one,

00:15:07.280 it's what the squishes do. 1.00

00:15:08.400 They just go along

00:15:09.320 with the new standards, right?

00:15:10.800 And obviously

00:15:12.120 that advances

00:15:12.720 the left's purpose

00:15:13.420 because it just gives in to them.

00:15:14.940 But there's a more insidious way,

00:15:17.420 a subtler way

00:15:18.120 that this purpose is advanced.

00:15:19.960 And it's from the more

00:15:20.720 stalwart conservatives

00:15:21.620 who say, look,

00:15:22.660 I'm not going to go along

00:15:23.680 with the left's new standard.

00:15:25.120 I am going to get rid

00:15:26.880 of standards altogether.

00:15:28.200 I'm only going to talk

00:15:29.080 about freedom in the abstract.

00:15:30.300 I'm not going to talk

00:15:30.980 about any practical

00:15:31.820 traditions of freedom.

00:15:33.940 But the irony here,

00:15:35.320 of course,

00:15:35.740 is that either way

00:15:36.720 you cut it,

00:15:37.760 the traditional standards

00:15:39.020 that political correctness

00:15:40.200 aims at are destroyed.

00:15:42.060 And, you know,

00:15:42.940 I know that we like

00:15:43.900 to pride ourselves

00:15:44.600 on the right

00:15:45.140 about understanding

00:15:45.960 free speech

00:15:46.600 and the history of America

00:15:47.460 so much better

00:15:48.200 than the left does.

00:15:49.380 But frankly,

00:15:50.380 these crazy kooky thinkers

00:15:52.040 that I had to read

00:15:53.960 for everybody

00:15:54.960 so that they didn't

00:15:55.600 have to read it themselves

00:15:56.420 and then tell the story in here,

00:15:58.060 these guys were pretty sharp

00:15:59.340 and they've obviously

00:16:00.220 been very politically effective.

00:16:02.220 So this may be a place

00:16:03.620 where I'm more libertarian

00:16:05.200 than conservative

00:16:05.920 in that I'm something

00:16:08.460 of a free speech radical.

00:16:10.280 And I believe

00:16:11.560 in protecting

00:16:13.680 everybody's right

00:16:15.060 to spew idiocy.

00:16:17.360 And in fact,

00:16:18.400 I think free speech

00:16:20.100 matters the more idiotic

00:16:21.820 it is what you're saying.

00:16:23.300 You know,

00:16:23.480 a lot of times

00:16:24.020 you hear politicians today

00:16:25.300 talk about

00:16:26.320 we want to have

00:16:26.900 reasonable speech.

00:16:28.700 You hear college academics

00:16:30.520 talk about

00:16:31.200 we want to get rid

00:16:32.360 of unreasonable speech.

00:16:33.440 We want to get rid

00:16:33.880 of hate speech.

00:16:34.700 But the First Amendment

00:16:37.040 doesn't exist

00:16:37.880 to protect

00:16:38.540 reasonable speech.

00:16:39.920 You don't need it.

00:16:40.960 If it's reasonable,

00:16:41.860 if everyone agrees with it,

00:16:43.120 there are no constraints on it.

00:16:44.660 It is only when someone

00:16:46.280 thinks the speech

00:16:47.200 is unreasonable

00:16:48.260 that you end up

00:16:50.160 having that speech silenced.

00:16:52.180 And so,

00:16:53.500 you know,

00:16:54.060 I do think there is

00:16:55.100 a real difference

00:16:55.860 between left and right

00:16:56.900 in that the left,

00:16:58.840 they believe in government.

00:17:00.260 They believe in government power.

00:17:01.620 And they believe in government

00:17:02.720 control over you

00:17:04.240 and silencing you

00:17:06.080 if you disagree.

00:17:07.840 From my end,

00:17:08.800 I don't want to silence

00:17:09.560 the people who disagree.

00:17:10.640 I don't want to silence

00:17:11.600 Bernie Sanders or AOC.

00:17:13.540 And to be honest,

00:17:13.960 I'd like people to listen

00:17:14.760 to AOC a lot more.

00:17:16.660 I think she does a great job

00:17:18.040 of convincing them

00:17:18.660 to support the other side.

00:17:19.840 But,

00:17:20.600 you know,

00:17:21.320 now,

00:17:22.140 that doesn't mean

00:17:23.080 that you're a nihilist

00:17:25.140 and you say

00:17:25.600 because everyone

00:17:26.160 has a right to speak,

00:17:27.300 every view is equally valid.

00:17:28.960 Right.

00:17:29.620 I think I also believe in truth.

00:17:31.960 And so,

00:17:32.740 does that mean

00:17:33.980 the Nazis have a right to speak? 0.81

00:17:35.680 Does that mean

00:17:36.120 the Klan has a right to speak?

00:17:37.540 Absolutely.

00:17:38.220 And then the Supreme Court,

00:17:39.260 by the way,

00:17:39.580 in a very famous case,

00:17:41.540 upheld the Nazis' right 0.94

00:17:43.200 to protest,

00:17:44.700 to march in the streets

00:17:45.780 of Skokie, Illinois.

00:17:46.780 I agree with that decision.

00:17:47.800 That's the right decision.

00:17:50.220 The Supreme Court also,

00:17:51.360 in another case,

00:17:52.100 upheld the right

00:17:52.900 of a hippie

00:17:54.560 to wear a jacket

00:17:56.100 that had on the back

00:17:57.200 F the draft.

00:17:59.640 And it didn't just,

00:18:00.640 it's spelled out

00:18:01.860 all of F the draft,

00:18:02.860 not just the one letter.

00:18:04.880 I do think

00:18:05.920 the ability to speak

00:18:07.640 hateful,

00:18:08.860 objectionable speech

00:18:09.940 is protected

00:18:10.560 in the Constitution.

00:18:12.640 But I also think

00:18:13.600 we have an obligation

00:18:14.440 to explain why it's wrong.

00:18:15.960 And so,

00:18:16.300 when the Nazis march,

00:18:18.360 we all have an obligation

00:18:20.120 to explain

00:18:20.640 that the Nazis 0.82

00:18:21.180 are evil,

00:18:21.920 bigoted bastards. 0.83

00:18:23.760 When the Klan marches,

00:18:25.060 we have an obligation

00:18:25.840 to make that clear.

00:18:27.480 But I'm very much

00:18:28.940 in the camp.

00:18:30.440 John Stuart Mill

00:18:31.200 on Liberty

00:18:31.740 said the best response

00:18:33.560 to bad speech

00:18:35.180 is more speech.

00:18:36.300 And I believe

00:18:37.480 that that's the right way

00:18:38.960 to counter it

00:18:39.960 is to aggressively,

00:18:41.440 I agree with you,

00:18:42.480 the left is trying

00:18:43.160 to tear down

00:18:43.960 our culture,

00:18:44.820 trying to tear down

00:18:45.580 our institutions,

00:18:46.880 trying to tear down

00:18:47.880 marriage,

00:18:48.480 trying to tear down

00:18:49.100 families,

00:18:49.780 trying to tear down

00:18:50.440 fatherhood,

00:18:51.160 trying to tear down

00:18:52.040 motherhood,

00:18:53.020 or I guess it's not

00:18:53.600 motherhood anymore,

00:18:54.380 it's birthing personhood.

00:18:57.540 That's a hard thing

00:18:58.460 to say,

00:18:58.840 birthing,

00:18:59.260 birthing.

00:19:00.060 That's a very difficult,

00:19:01.040 but all of this

00:19:02.380 is systematically

00:19:03.300 tearing down

00:19:04.600 institutions.

00:19:06.380 And by the way,

00:19:06.800 in communist countries,

00:19:07.660 you see this

00:19:08.400 fully developed

00:19:09.220 where,

00:19:10.360 you know,

00:19:11.320 one of our

00:19:11.780 first podcasts,

00:19:12.920 we interviewed

00:19:13.460 my aunt,

00:19:14.300 my tia Sonia,

00:19:15.280 who talked about

00:19:16.420 life in communist Cuba.

00:19:18.520 And she described

00:19:19.800 how

00:19:20.320 the communist

00:19:22.080 government there

00:19:22.860 tries to tear down

00:19:23.960 your allegiance

00:19:24.660 to your family,

00:19:26.960 to your parents,

00:19:28.320 to your spouse,

00:19:30.100 to your kids,

00:19:31.400 to your church.

00:19:32.700 They push atheism

00:19:33.920 because,

00:19:34.760 and this is right

00:19:35.420 at the heart

00:19:35.840 of communism,

00:19:36.760 if you have

00:19:37.860 no other loyalties,

00:19:38.920 if they can undermine

00:19:39.760 every other loyalty

00:19:40.580 you have,

00:19:41.200 then you're only

00:19:41.800 loyal to the state.

00:19:43.280 And that is

00:19:44.300 a powerful thing,

00:19:46.520 and it goes back

00:19:48.260 to when I asked

00:19:49.540 before,

00:19:50.080 why would Marx

00:19:50.800 want to tear down

00:19:51.780 our institutions?

00:19:53.460 Yeah.

00:19:54.500 Because they want

00:19:56.640 the state

00:19:57.460 to be the dominant

00:19:59.400 institution.

00:20:00.080 Now,

00:20:00.320 the state is

00:20:00.900 ostensibly

00:20:01.820 operating for the people.

00:20:04.960 But any time

00:20:05.780 you see a revolutionary

00:20:06.820 say the people

00:20:07.800 demand this,

00:20:09.120 you know,

00:20:09.400 somehow the jackboot

00:20:10.560 and machine gun

00:20:11.280 are right there

00:20:12.160 and the people

00:20:13.420 just happen to want

00:20:14.560 that dictator

00:20:15.260 to stay in power

00:20:16.100 and do whatever

00:20:16.580 the hell they want

00:20:17.420 for the rest

00:20:18.160 of their lives.

00:20:19.160 Right.

00:20:19.260 And on this point

00:20:20.140 of the institutions,

00:20:21.780 of course,

00:20:22.420 you're right.

00:20:22.920 We love our

00:20:24.260 very broad

00:20:25.360 free speech tradition

00:20:26.440 in America.

00:20:27.720 And where there

00:20:29.240 are standards

00:20:29.980 and there are

00:20:30.560 always standards,

00:20:31.660 every society

00:20:32.360 is going to have

00:20:32.860 certain taboos,

00:20:34.080 every society

00:20:34.620 is going to have

00:20:35.020 certain things

00:20:35.580 that you will

00:20:36.480 be ostracized

00:20:37.180 for saying,

00:20:37.780 maybe not by the

00:20:38.300 government,

00:20:38.680 but by society broadly.

00:20:40.800 In the traditional

00:20:41.840 American context,

00:20:43.060 it is institutions,

00:20:44.780 the church,

00:20:45.600 the local community

00:20:46.360 that will enforce this.

00:20:47.940 There are some

00:20:48.740 guardrails

00:20:49.340 from the federal

00:20:50.440 government,

00:20:50.920 even as well,

00:20:51.600 things like fraud,

00:20:52.560 for instance,

00:20:53.400 or obscenity laws,

00:20:54.560 also more at the

00:20:55.540 local level.

00:20:56.340 But, you know,

00:20:56.740 some guardrails

00:20:57.360 there in a lot

00:20:57.860 of the institutions.

00:20:59.020 As you erode that,

00:21:01.100 I think the claim

00:21:01.840 made by the

00:21:02.380 politically correct

00:21:03.820 radicals and by

00:21:05.280 the people who were

00:21:05.940 claiming the mantle

00:21:06.720 of free speech

00:21:07.340 in the 1960s,

00:21:08.560 the radical leftists

00:21:09.520 at Berkeley,

00:21:10.520 they were saying

00:21:11.080 we need to get rid

00:21:11.740 of all of these

00:21:12.360 restrictions and then

00:21:13.260 we will have

00:21:13.740 true freedom

00:21:14.360 and you'll be able

00:21:15.100 to say whatever you want.

00:21:16.180 But it was always a trap.

00:21:17.580 It was always a trick

00:21:18.420 because no sooner

00:21:19.700 had they broken down

00:21:20.720 those standards

00:21:21.400 than they created

00:21:22.300 a whole bunch of

00:21:23.000 new standards

00:21:23.580 in their place.

00:21:24.600 The way I think

00:21:25.320 of it sometimes

00:21:26.020 is,

00:21:26.640 especially coming

00:21:27.540 from Hollywood,

00:21:28.500 having fleed

00:21:29.460 from Mussolini's

00:21:31.400 failed state,

00:21:32.680 is there was a

00:21:33.820 blacklist in the 1950s.

00:21:35.880 In some cases,

00:21:36.800 it was kind of ugly.

00:21:38.040 There was the

00:21:38.900 Smith Act in the 1950s

00:21:40.300 where if you were

00:21:41.020 working for the

00:21:41.820 Communist Party,

00:21:42.580 if you were working

00:21:43.040 for a foreign state,

00:21:43.980 you could be prosecuted

00:21:45.300 actually getting back

00:21:46.600 to Whitaker Chambers,

00:21:47.520 that's what happened.

00:21:48.160 There actually were

00:21:49.000 communists in the government,

00:21:50.320 guys like Alger Hiss.

00:21:52.120 In the 1950s,

00:21:53.400 you would be cancelled

00:21:54.380 for being a communist.

00:21:56.780 Today,

00:21:57.620 you can be cancelled

00:21:58.380 for not being a communist.

00:22:00.140 You can get cancelled

00:22:01.120 for the opposite reason.

00:22:02.280 It seems that that

00:22:03.080 standard has totally shifted.

00:22:04.940 And so,

00:22:05.360 what I would like

00:22:06.860 to do at least

00:22:07.480 is preserve

00:22:08.560 this wonderful

00:22:09.460 American free speech

00:22:10.540 tradition

00:22:10.940 where you really

00:22:11.680 can speak your mind,

00:22:13.300 where you really

00:22:13.980 can maintain

00:22:15.420 your way of life

00:22:16.320 without handing over

00:22:18.200 to the left

00:22:18.820 the keys to create

00:22:20.100 a radical new

00:22:21.260 dictatorship of speech

00:22:23.220 which we have now seen

00:22:24.440 notably

00:22:25.200 through big tech.

00:22:26.740 You know,

00:22:26.900 it might not be

00:22:27.480 through the government

00:22:28.120 but big tech

00:22:28.880 is now controlling

00:22:29.600 the way

00:22:30.020 that we communicate

00:22:31.340 around our public square.

00:22:32.800 So,

00:22:33.240 explain something for me

00:22:34.580 which is

00:22:35.360 we were talking about

00:22:36.720 the communists,

00:22:37.880 you talk about

00:22:38.540 the critical thinkers,

00:22:40.040 there's a school

00:22:40.740 of the critical thinkers

00:22:41.740 that went into

00:22:42.240 law schools

00:22:42.960 that were called

00:22:43.700 critical legal theory

00:22:44.840 and the hotbed 0.66

00:22:46.020 of that

00:22:46.400 was my alma mater

00:22:47.540 was Harvard Law School

00:22:49.000 and when I was there

00:22:50.020 there were a bunch

00:22:50.560 of crits

00:22:50.980 that's what they were called

00:22:52.100 one of the more

00:22:52.600 prominent crits

00:22:53.440 drove a green

00:22:56.300 brand new Jaguar.

00:22:58.860 It's amazing

00:22:59.440 how communists

00:23:00.180 always seem to have

00:23:01.000 a whole lot of wealth

00:23:01.920 and comfort

00:23:03.280 and life tenure

00:23:04.060 can't be fired

00:23:04.900 and thus they

00:23:05.620 have no needs

00:23:07.040 to worry about

00:23:07.800 the means of production

00:23:08.640 in society.

00:23:09.840 But the crits

00:23:10.620 were relatively obscure

00:23:12.960 and they took

00:23:13.640 the ideas

00:23:14.340 of Marxism

00:23:15.080 and they applied

00:23:15.760 it to the legal system

00:23:17.080 and what they said

00:23:17.920 was the class conflict

00:23:20.180 that Marx posited

00:23:21.320 is at the

00:23:22.120 at the base

00:23:23.960 of everything

00:23:24.440 in society

00:23:25.140 that the class conflict

00:23:26.720 is also reflected

00:23:27.920 in our legal system

00:23:29.040 and the crits

00:23:30.020 attacked

00:23:30.580 that there

00:23:31.600 is anything

00:23:32.680 like fair or objective law

00:23:34.400 that it is possible

00:23:35.460 to apply the law

00:23:36.500 that it is possible

00:23:37.280 to understand the law

00:23:38.420 that any judge

00:23:39.900 can ever

00:23:41.160 follow the text

00:23:42.720 of the law

00:23:43.140 instead they said

00:23:44.080 the entire legal system

00:23:45.420 in America

00:23:46.000 exists as a means

00:23:48.260 of perpetuating

00:23:49.280 the class oppression

00:23:50.220 and perpetuating

00:23:51.200 the oppression

00:23:52.140 of the owners

00:23:52.760 of capital

00:23:53.380 over the proletariat 0.88

00:23:54.720 and so

00:23:55.420 it

00:23:56.380 combined the two notions

00:23:58.420 you said before

00:23:59.140 tearing down institutions

00:24:00.360 with the ongoing

00:24:01.980 class conflict

00:24:03.100 and it

00:24:04.440 mapped that

00:24:05.880 onto the legal system

00:24:07.000 and I gotta say

00:24:07.500 there are crits now

00:24:08.260 that have proliferated

00:24:09.320 at law schools

00:24:10.700 all over the country

00:24:11.420 you know

00:24:12.740 when it was at

00:24:13.260 the law schools

00:24:13.920 it was

00:24:14.240 and by the way

00:24:14.820 they had

00:24:15.200 this weird habit

00:24:16.620 of speaking

00:24:18.460 in like

00:24:19.820 12 syllable words

00:24:21.400 writing the most

00:24:22.540 impenetrable

00:24:23.580 prose

00:24:24.240 I mean I remember

00:24:25.020 when I was

00:24:25.520 on the law review

00:24:26.600 we had this one

00:24:27.440 article submitted

00:24:28.620 by this

00:24:29.840 this crit

00:24:30.540 academic

00:24:31.440 that was

00:24:32.500 completely

00:24:33.320 unreadable

00:24:34.320 I mean

00:24:34.740 it had words

00:24:35.940 I'm sorry

00:24:36.620 I think

00:24:37.120 I've got

00:24:37.340 a decent

00:24:37.820 vocabulary

00:24:38.460 and

00:24:39.680 it was

00:24:40.980 so

00:24:42.840 thick

00:24:44.120 that I

00:24:45.540 and I remember

00:24:45.960 like other

00:24:46.840 kind of lefty

00:24:47.820 law students

00:24:48.220 like oh

00:24:48.780 this is really

00:24:49.400 deep and profound

00:24:50.200 and I think

00:24:50.500 a law student

00:24:51.060 doesn't want

00:24:51.540 to admit

00:24:51.960 he doesn't

00:24:52.920 understand something

00:24:53.800 he doesn't

00:24:54.500 want to be

00:24:54.780 seen as dumb

00:24:55.380 so if it's

00:24:56.060 if you can't

00:24:56.820 understand it

00:24:57.420 well

00:24:57.600 then it must

00:24:58.020 be really

00:24:58.400 deep and

00:24:58.780 profound

00:24:59.120 I'm like

00:24:59.940 look

00:25:00.180 I'm sorry

00:25:01.120 this is not

00:25:01.680 written in

00:25:02.080 the English

00:25:02.440 language

00:25:02.800 I have no

00:25:03.200 idea what

00:25:03.580 the hell

00:25:03.800 the guy

00:25:04.100 is saying

00:25:04.560 and the

00:25:05.280 reason he's

00:25:05.740 using so

00:25:06.300 many big

00:25:06.720 words is

00:25:07.200 because his

00:25:07.560 ideas are

00:25:08.080 stupid and 0.92

00:25:08.520 he figures

00:25:08.800 if he uses

00:25:09.300 big words

00:25:09.920 that everyone

00:25:11.420 will be afraid

00:25:12.140 to call out

00:25:12.720 the emperor

00:25:13.180 for having

00:25:13.600 no clothes

00:25:14.120 right

00:25:14.400 but the

00:25:16.080 crits were

00:25:16.500 in law

00:25:16.860 schools

00:25:17.320 they were

00:25:17.700 relatively

00:25:18.200 benign

00:25:18.900 and then

00:25:20.580 suddenly

00:25:21.040 critical

00:25:21.580 legal

00:25:22.780 theory

00:25:23.260 took a

00:25:23.840 leap

00:25:24.160 into

00:25:24.500 critical

00:25:24.960 race

00:25:25.500 theory

00:25:25.840 now

00:25:26.060 how did

00:25:26.460 it

00:25:26.600 change

00:25:26.920 what's

00:25:27.300 the

00:25:27.440 difference

00:25:28.100 between

00:25:29.420 critical

00:25:30.780 theory

00:25:31.180 critical

00:25:31.520 legal

00:25:31.820 theory

00:25:32.140 and now

00:25:32.460 the new

00:25:32.840 thing

00:25:33.100 critical

00:25:33.480 race

00:25:33.800 theory

00:25:34.000 what is

00:25:34.340 you know

00:25:34.980 we're hearing

00:25:35.660 a lot

00:25:35.980 about that

00:25:36.640 and I

00:25:37.100 think

00:25:37.360 just today

00:25:39.480 walking down

00:25:40.120 the halls

00:25:40.500 of a capital

00:25:41.000 a reporter

00:25:41.440 walked up to

00:25:41.980 me and said

00:25:42.260 hey

00:25:42.480 what is

00:25:43.400 critical

00:25:43.740 race

00:25:44.060 theory

00:25:44.340 and I

00:25:44.580 think

00:25:44.680 it was

00:25:44.840 supposed

00:25:45.020 to be

00:25:45.180 a gotcha

00:25:45.580 question

00:25:46.020 like

00:25:46.360 let's

00:25:47.140 show

00:25:47.360 that

00:25:47.600 people

00:25:48.120 are

00:25:48.300 against

00:25:48.640 critical

00:25:48.980 race

00:25:49.220 theory

00:25:49.460 and they

00:25:49.640 don't

00:25:49.720 know

00:25:49.820 what

00:25:49.980 it

00:25:50.080 is

00:25:50.400 and I

00:25:51.080 think

00:25:51.240 he

00:25:51.320 was

00:25:51.420 a little

00:25:51.640 startled

00:25:52.040 that I

00:25:52.380 had

00:25:52.640 actually

00:25:53.480 an answer

00:25:53.900 but let

00:25:54.400 me ask

00:25:54.740 you that

00:25:55.080 what is

00:25:55.780 critical

00:25:56.140 race

00:25:56.400 theory

00:25:56.560 for someone

00:25:56.900 listening

00:25:57.340 you hear

00:25:58.160 this term

00:25:58.600 a lot

00:25:59.000 but a lot

00:26:00.300 of people

00:26:00.560 aren't sure

00:26:00.900 what it

00:26:01.160 means

00:26:01.440 yeah

00:26:01.720 I'm so

00:26:02.200 glad

00:26:02.420 you brought

00:26:02.840 this up

00:26:03.200 because

00:26:03.440 you're

00:26:03.680 going to

00:26:03.900 start

00:26:04.220 hearing

00:26:04.540 a lot

00:26:04.840 of these

00:26:05.100 gotcha

00:26:05.480 questions

00:26:06.000 maybe from

00:26:07.220 reporters

00:26:07.700 if you're

00:26:08.480 a US

00:26:08.900 senator

00:26:09.200 and maybe

00:26:09.880 just from

00:26:10.380 your liberal

00:26:10.980 friend down

00:26:12.080 the street

00:26:12.480 who wants

00:26:12.800 to get

00:26:13.200 you

00:26:13.320 because

00:26:13.460 you

00:26:13.580 don't

00:26:13.740 know

00:26:13.900 what

00:26:14.080 critical

00:26:14.880 theory

00:26:15.720 is

00:26:15.900 critical

00:26:16.120 race

00:26:16.340 theory

00:26:16.520 critical

00:26:16.780 legal

00:26:17.060 theory

00:26:17.340 this is

00:26:18.060 an

00:26:18.260 analytic

00:26:18.840 lens

00:26:19.600 through

00:26:20.200 which

00:26:20.560 to view

00:26:20.960 society

00:26:21.460 that's

00:26:21.760 why

00:26:22.080 it's

00:26:22.580 not

00:26:22.780 just

00:26:22.980 one

00:26:23.300 discipline

00:26:23.800 it has

00:26:24.400 infected

00:26:24.920 virtually

00:26:25.820 all of

00:26:26.480 the

00:26:26.640 disciplines

00:26:27.080 in the

00:26:27.700 university

00:26:28.180 frankly

00:26:28.680 including

00:26:29.100 the hard

00:26:29.400 sciences

00:26:29.840 and

00:26:30.120 mathematics

00:26:30.760 in some

00:26:31.340 cases

00:26:31.720 to your

00:26:32.340 point

00:26:32.700 on

00:26:33.080 property

00:26:34.180 to your

00:26:34.820 point

00:26:35.100 on this

00:26:35.940 the legal

00:26:36.780 aspect

00:26:37.220 there's

00:26:37.920 a very

00:26:38.340 important

00:26:38.700 text

00:26:39.160 in

00:26:39.800 critical

00:26:40.320 race

00:26:40.640 theory

00:26:40.900 called

00:26:41.220 whiteness

00:26:41.820 as

00:26:42.040 property

00:26:42.500 listen

00:26:42.820 to how

00:26:43.100 radical

00:26:43.460 this

00:26:43.720 is

00:26:43.920 the

00:26:45.160 origins

00:26:45.740 of

00:26:46.040 property

00:26:46.520 rights

00:26:46.880 in the

00:26:47.180 United

00:26:47.420 States

00:26:47.780 are

00:26:48.340 rooted

00:26:48.720 in

00:26:49.120 racial

00:26:49.480 domination

00:26:50.180 even

00:26:50.840 in

00:26:50.980 the

00:26:51.080 early

00:26:51.260 years

00:26:51.480 of

00:26:51.580 the

00:26:51.700 country

00:26:52.020 it

00:26:52.440 was

00:26:52.580 not

00:26:52.760 the

00:26:52.920 concept

00:26:53.220 of

00:26:53.420 race

00:26:53.640 alone

00:26:53.920 that

00:26:54.060 operated

00:26:54.400 to

00:26:54.580 oppress

00:26:54.980 say

00:26:55.380 blacks 1.00

00:26:55.660 and

00:26:55.780 Indians

00:26:56.060 rather

00:26:56.600 it was

00:26:56.820 the

00:26:56.960 interaction

00:26:57.480 between

00:26:57.800 conceptions

00:26:58.420 of

00:26:58.560 race

00:26:58.940 and

00:26:59.500 property

00:27:00.020 which

00:27:00.480 played

00:27:00.720 a

00:27:00.840 critical

00:27:01.060 role

00:27:01.360 in

00:27:01.500 establishing

00:27:01.900 and

00:27:02.120 maintaining

00:27:02.480 racial

00:27:03.220 and

00:27:03.720 economic

00:27:05.040 subordination

00:27:05.640 the idea

00:27:06.460 being

00:27:06.760 you think

00:27:07.620 that

00:27:07.860 look

00:27:08.320 slavery

00:27:08.880 very bad

00:27:09.960 forms

00:27:10.700 of racial

00:27:11.020 discrimination

00:27:11.520 very bad

00:27:12.140 okay

00:27:12.360 we're

00:27:12.540 going to

00:27:12.680 fix

00:27:12.860 that

00:27:13.020 problem

00:27:13.320 then

00:27:13.460 we're

00:27:13.600 fixed

00:27:13.800 no

00:27:14.020 they

00:27:14.460 say

00:27:14.680 it's

00:27:14.880 the

00:27:15.220 whole

00:27:15.360 thing

00:27:15.540 it's

00:27:15.720 capitalism

00:27:16.240 it's

00:27:16.880 private

00:27:17.200 property

00:27:17.720 it's

00:27:18.260 everything

00:27:18.780 you've

00:27:19.120 got to

00:27:19.520 tear

00:27:19.740 this

00:27:19.940 down

00:27:20.140 so

00:27:20.280 there

00:27:20.380 is

00:27:20.920 simply

00:27:21.280 no

00:27:21.660 end

00:27:22.040 to

00:27:22.220 this

00:27:22.420 and

00:27:22.760 the

00:27:22.900 fact

00:27:23.180 is

00:27:23.500 of

00:27:24.720 course

00:27:25.000 senator

00:27:25.300 when

00:27:25.520 you

00:27:25.640 were

00:27:25.740 in

00:27:25.820 law

00:27:26.020 school

00:27:26.240 this

00:27:26.480 was

00:27:26.620 the

00:27:26.820 vanguard

00:27:27.400 of

00:27:27.720 the

00:27:27.900 craziness

00:27:28.560 of

00:27:28.760 critical

00:27:29.220 theory

00:27:29.640 now

00:27:30.400 this

00:27:30.660 has

00:27:30.860 spread

00:27:31.180 into

00:27:31.360 the

00:27:31.520 mainstream

00:27:31.900 it's

00:27:32.140 in

00:27:32.240 every

00:27:32.520 school

00:27:32.780 it's

00:27:32.940 in

00:27:33.040 your

00:27:33.160 high

00:27:33.380 school

00:27:33.660 it's

00:27:43.320 academic

00:27:44.760 freedom

00:27:45.200 total

00:27:45.680 free

00:27:46.300 speech

00:27:46.740 in

00:27:47.260 the

00:27:47.360 classroom

00:27:47.780 now

00:27:48.560 we

00:27:49.040 love

00:27:49.520 academic

00:27:50.520 freedom

00:27:50.820 in the

00:27:51.060 sense

00:27:51.220 that we

00:27:51.400 want

00:27:51.540 to be

00:27:51.680 able

00:27:51.780 to

00:27:51.920 pursue

00:27:52.160 our

00:27:52.380 own

00:27:52.520 ideas

00:27:52.880 and

00:27:53.080 think

00:27:53.220 for

00:27:53.380 ourselves

00:27:53.840 but

00:27:55.020 does

00:27:55.440 academic

00:27:55.900 freedom

00:27:56.280 mean

00:27:56.640 that

00:27:56.900 you

00:27:57.180 have

00:27:57.420 the

00:27:57.620 right

00:27:58.000 as

00:27:58.540 a

00:27:58.720 radical

00:27:59.420 leftist

00:28:00.200 teacher

00:28:00.620 to

00:28:01.480 indoctrinate

00:28:02.640 your

00:28:02.800 students

00:28:03.140 in

00:28:03.320 whatever

00:28:03.760 you

00:28:04.020 want

00:28:04.240 regardless

00:28:04.640 of

00:28:04.840 what

00:28:04.940 the

00:28:05.020 school

00:28:05.180 board

00:28:05.400 says

00:28:05.620 regardless

00:28:06.120 of

00:28:06.340 what

00:28:06.440 the

00:28:06.980 parents

00:28:07.300 say

00:28:07.560 even

00:28:07.960 if

00:28:08.100 it

00:28:08.200 will

00:28:08.340 harm

00:28:08.600 the

00:28:08.760 students

00:28:09.020 education

00:28:09.600 going

00:28:10.460 back

00:28:10.760 to

00:28:10.900 that

00:28:11.060 great

00:28:11.440 conservative

00:28:12.020 William

00:28:12.340 F.

00:28:12.600 Buckley

00:28:12.820 Jr.

00:28:13.560 who

00:28:13.740 kicks

00:28:14.460 off

00:28:14.640 the

00:28:14.760 post-war

00:28:15.080 conservative

00:28:15.460 movement

00:28:15.920 with

00:28:16.640 his

00:28:17.080 book

00:28:17.300 God

00:28:17.520 and

00:28:17.640 Man

00:28:17.800 at

00:28:17.940 Yale

00:28:18.180 the

00:28:18.780 subtitle

00:28:19.640 of

00:28:19.740 that

00:28:19.880 book

00:28:20.060 was

00:28:20.340 the

00:28:20.840 superstitions

00:28:21.720 of

00:28:22.240 academic

00:28:22.760 freedom

00:28:23.160 in

00:28:23.760 that

00:28:23.920 book

00:28:24.100 he

00:28:24.220 calls

00:28:24.480 academic

00:28:24.920 freedom

00:28:25.220 as

00:28:25.360 we

00:28:25.540 use

00:28:25.840 it

00:28:25.980 he

00:28:26.320 calls

00:28:26.520 it

00:28:26.620 a

00:28:26.760 hoax

00:28:27.140 he

00:28:27.300 says

00:28:27.460 it

00:28:27.580 just

00:28:27.740 doesn't

00:28:28.660 really

00:28:28.880 happen

00:28:29.200 that

00:28:29.400 way

00:28:29.560 that

00:28:29.720 actually

00:28:30.140 you

00:28:30.740 do

00:28:30.900 have

00:28:31.040 a

00:28:31.160 right

00:28:31.340 as

00:28:31.500 a

00:28:39.020 say

00:28:39.220 2

00:28:39.440 plus

00:28:39.620 2

00:28:39.780 equals

00:28:40.060 4

00:28:40.400 well

00:28:40.980 that's

00:28:41.180 what

00:28:41.260 they

00:28:41.360 used

00:28:41.520 to

00:28:41.640 teach

00:28:41.840 these

00:28:42.240 days

00:28:42.460 they're

00:28:42.620 going

00:28:42.700 to

00:28:42.780 teach

00:28:42.960 you

00:28:43.040 2

00:28:43.200 plus

00:28:43.320 2

00:28:43.480 equals

00:28:43.740 5

00:28:44.200 and

00:28:44.720 they're

00:28:44.860 going

00:28:45.000 to

00:28:45.120 teach

00:28:45.360 these

00:28:45.840 sort

00:28:46.200 of

00:28:46.320 radicalism

00:28:47.020 anti-historical

00:28:48.360 untrue

00:28:49.040 really bad

00:28:49.940 stuff

00:28:50.340 and

00:28:51.140 I

00:28:51.420 think

00:28:51.620 it

00:28:51.720 is

00:28:51.840 up

00:28:51.980 to

00:28:52.140 us

00:28:52.460 to

00:28:52.660 summon

00:28:52.860 the

00:28:53.060 courage

00:28:53.400 to

00:28:53.580 say

00:28:53.740 no

00:28:54.180 you

00:28:54.680 know

00:28:54.860 what

00:28:55.100 the

00:28:55.720 critical

00:28:56.540 race

00:28:56.900 theory

00:28:57.240 the

00:28:57.420 legal

00:28:57.720 theory

00:28:58.160 the

00:28:58.680 political

00:28:59.460 correctness

00:28:59.940 in all

00:29:00.280 of

00:29:00.380 its

00:29:00.500 forms

00:29:09.020 our

00:29:09.200 schools

00:29:09.580 well

00:29:10.180 Michael

00:29:10.620 let me

00:29:10.880 say a

00:29:11.400 couple

00:29:11.540 of

00:29:11.680 things

00:29:11.840 in

00:29:11.960 response

00:29:12.300 to

00:29:12.460 that

00:29:12.640 one

00:29:13.140 look

00:29:14.060 does

00:29:14.240 someone

00:29:14.520 have

00:29:14.780 a

00:29:14.920 right

00:29:15.140 to

00:29:15.340 try

00:29:15.620 to

00:29:15.800 indoctrinate

00:29:16.560 kids

00:29:17.400 or

00:29:17.580 everybody

00:29:17.880 else

00:29:18.220 yes

00:29:18.480 you

00:29:18.660 have

00:29:18.760 a

00:29:18.860 right

00:29:19.000 to

00:29:19.140 try

00:29:19.460 what

00:29:20.180 you

00:29:20.300 don't

00:29:20.480 have

00:29:20.640 a

00:29:20.740 right

00:29:20.900 to

00:29:21.060 do

00:29:21.320 is

00:29:22.180 stay

00:29:22.440 employed

00:29:23.000 at

00:29:23.300 a

00:29:23.420 college

00:29:23.680 or

00:29:23.840 university

00:29:24.340 that

00:29:25.140 is

00:29:25.280 in

00:29:25.380 the

00:29:25.500 business

00:29:25.780 of

00:29:25.960 educating

00:29:26.340 kids

00:29:26.760 that

00:29:26.920 you

00:29:27.040 don't

00:29:27.160 have

00:29:27.280 an

00:29:27.380 entitlement

00:29:27.760 to

00:29:27.960 that

00:29:28.160 job

00:29:28.620 and

00:29:29.180 for

00:29:29.320 any

00:29:29.500 college

00:29:29.860 or

00:29:30.020 university

00:29:30.540 they're

00:29:31.420 not

00:29:31.660 performing

00:29:32.180 their

00:29:32.420 function

00:29:32.920 if

00:29:33.640 they

00:29:33.820 are

00:29:33.980 allowing

00:29:34.400 their

00:29:34.640 professors

00:29:35.040 to

00:29:35.300 indoctrinate

00:29:35.980 anything

00:29:36.900 look

00:29:37.260 I

00:29:37.480 for

00:29:38.120 several

00:29:38.420 years

00:29:38.700 taught

00:29:39.020 at

00:29:40.040 University

00:29:40.360 of

00:29:40.500 Texas

00:29:40.720 law

00:29:40.980 school

00:29:41.200 I'm

00:29:41.500 a

00:29:41.600 conservative

00:29:42.000 I

00:29:42.260 didn't

00:29:42.420 try

00:29:42.600 to

00:29:42.740 indoctrinate

00:29:43.340 my

00:29:43.520 students

00:29:43.860 to be

00:29:44.120 conservatives

00:29:44.540 I

00:29:44.760 wanted

00:29:44.940 to be

00:29:45.160 a

00:29:45.260 good

00:29:45.400 teacher

00:29:45.720 so

00:29:45.920 I

00:29:46.060 tried

00:29:46.280 to

00:29:46.420 present

00:29:46.740 them

00:29:47.080 I

00:29:47.660 taught

00:29:48.020 a

00:29:48.180 seminar

00:29:48.440 on

00:29:48.740 Supreme

00:29:48.980 Court

00:29:49.200 litigation

00:29:49.600 and

00:29:49.860 so

00:29:49.980 I

00:29:50.120 teach

00:29:51.040 them

00:29:51.280 what

00:29:51.440 the

00:29:51.600 views

00:29:51.880 of

00:29:51.980 different

00:29:52.260 justices

00:29:52.780 were

00:29:52.980 I

00:29:53.100 teach

00:29:53.400 them

00:29:53.560 what

00:29:53.720 Justice

00:29:54.020 Scalia

00:29:54.340 believed

00:29:54.760 I

00:29:54.920 teach

00:29:55.140 them

00:29:55.320 what

00:29:55.500 Ruth

00:29:55.940 Bader

00:29:56.140 Ginsburg

00:29:56.480 believed

00:29:57.040 I

00:29:57.880 would

00:29:58.060 in

00:29:58.160 the

00:29:58.280 course

00:29:58.540 of

00:29:58.680 it

00:29:58.780 say

00:29:58.960 what

00:29:59.140 I

00:29:59.320 thought

00:29:59.600 but

00:29:59.860 actually

00:30:00.440 that

00:30:00.840 very

00:30:01.300 much

00:30:01.560 took

00:30:01.740 a

00:30:01.860 backseat

00:30:02.380 to

00:30:02.600 trying

00:30:02.960 to

00:30:03.120 get

00:30:03.340 them

00:30:03.620 to

00:30:04.480 understand

00:30:05.220 the

00:30:05.860 range

00:30:06.240 of

00:30:06.440 views

00:30:06.720 and

00:30:06.880 come

00:30:07.020 to

00:30:07.120 their

00:30:07.260 own

00:30:07.440 conclusions

00:30:07.920 and

00:30:08.240 I

00:30:08.720 would

00:30:08.860 have

00:30:09.080 the

00:30:09.260 students

00:30:09.680 argue

00:30:10.780 actual

00:30:11.500 cases

00:30:11.920 that

00:30:12.180 were

00:30:12.280 pending

00:30:12.540 before

00:30:12.820 the

00:30:13.020 court

00:30:13.260 so

00:30:13.920 it

00:30:14.000 was

00:30:14.080 a

00:30:21.980 and

00:30:22.500 every

00:30:22.720 student

00:30:23.100 would

00:30:23.320 brief

00:30:23.580 and

00:30:23.720 argue

00:30:23.980 two

00:30:24.200 cases

00:30:24.660 and

00:30:25.820 on

00:30:25.920 the

00:30:26.020 remaining

00:30:26.300 cases

00:30:26.720 they

00:30:26.920 would

00:30:27.080 sit

00:30:27.360 as

00:30:27.540 justices

00:30:28.100 and

00:30:28.240 they

00:30:28.320 were

00:30:28.440 actual

00:30:28.840 justices

00:30:29.400 so

00:30:30.040 one

00:30:30.380 week

00:30:30.680 you

00:30:30.840 might

00:30:31.080 be

00:30:31.280 Chief

00:30:31.480 Justice

00:30:31.820 Roberts

00:30:32.240 the

00:30:32.440 next

00:30:32.660 week

00:30:32.880 you

00:30:32.980 might

00:30:33.120 be

00:30:33.300 Scalia

00:30:33.680 the

00:30:33.900 next

00:30:34.100 week

00:30:34.280 you

00:30:34.380 might

00:30:34.520 be

00:30:34.660 Breyer

00:30:34.980 and

00:30:36.240 the

00:30:37.040 first

00:30:37.360 hour

00:30:37.680 of

00:30:37.840 the

00:30:37.940 class

00:30:38.360 was

00:30:38.660 the

00:30:38.820 oral

00:30:39.040 argument

00:30:39.400 where

00:30:39.620 the

00:30:39.760 students

00:30:40.080 would

00:30:40.280 present

00:30:40.560 the

00:30:40.760 argument

00:30:41.120 the

00:30:41.400 second

00:30:41.680 hour

00:30:41.920 of

00:30:42.040 the

00:30:42.120 class

00:30:42.540 the

00:30:43.480 justices

00:30:44.140 retired

00:30:44.880 to

00:30:45.380 conference

00:30:45.900 and

00:30:46.860 debated

00:30:47.300 the

00:30:47.540 case

00:30:47.940 and

00:30:48.600 voted

00:30:48.980 and

00:30:49.220 they

00:30:49.340 had

00:30:49.540 to

00:30:49.760 vote

00:30:50.140 in

00:30:50.940 the

00:30:51.180 shoes

00:30:51.560 of

00:30:51.760 the

00:30:51.920 justice

00:30:52.300 who

00:30:52.520 they

00:30:52.660 were

00:30:52.800 playing

00:30:53.200 and

00:30:54.180 then

00:30:54.260 they

00:30:54.360 had

00:30:54.460 to

00:30:54.540 write

00:30:54.680 an

00:30:54.800 opinion

00:30:55.080 on

00:30:55.360 it

00:30:55.500 and

00:30:55.780 it

00:30:56.140 was

00:30:56.320 designed

00:30:56.740 some

00:30:56.980 of

00:30:57.060 the

00:30:57.140 best

00:30:58.320 teaching

00:30:58.760 moments

00:30:59.180 were

00:30:59.360 when

00:30:59.520 you

00:30:59.640 had

00:30:59.840 people

00:31:00.220 arguing

00:31:00.940 contrary

00:31:02.220 to

00:31:02.680 their

00:31:02.860 ideological

00:31:03.380 disposition

00:31:04.060 so

00:31:04.540 I

00:31:05.900 remember

00:31:06.340 there

00:31:06.540 was

00:31:06.740 one

00:31:07.100 very

00:31:07.400 liberal

00:31:07.700 woman 0.99

00:31:08.040 who

00:31:08.220 was

00:31:08.420 arguing

00:31:08.860 on

00:31:09.080 behalf

00:31:09.440 of

00:31:09.580 some

00:31:09.740 pro-life

00:31:13.480 her

00:31:13.620 to

00:31:13.740 present

00:31:13.980 those

00:31:14.240 arguments

00:31:14.640 there

00:31:15.180 was

00:31:15.300 another

00:31:15.560 fellow

00:31:15.860 who

00:31:16.020 was

00:31:16.040 a

00:31:16.140 West

00:31:16.340 Point

00:31:16.580 grad

00:31:16.920 very

00:31:17.180 conservative

00:31:17.660 student

00:31:18.280 who

00:31:19.160 was

00:31:19.360 arguing

00:31:19.720 on

00:31:19.960 behalf

00:31:20.440 of

00:31:20.620 a

00:31:20.820 Gitmo

00:31:21.200 terrorist

00:31:21.840 and

00:31:22.260 I

00:31:22.540 think

00:31:22.760 that

00:31:23.080 also

00:31:23.960 was

00:31:24.320 valuable

00:31:24.820 but

00:31:26.400 let me

00:31:26.940 step

00:31:27.440 back

00:31:27.740 for a

00:31:28.040 second

00:31:28.200 and

00:31:28.340 go

00:31:28.460 back

00:31:28.720 to

00:31:28.840 the

00:31:28.960 question

00:31:29.200 we

00:31:29.320 were

00:31:29.420 talking

00:31:29.640 about

00:31:29.800 a

00:31:29.920 minute

00:31:30.020 ago

00:31:30.340 which

00:31:31.360 is

00:31:31.520 what

00:31:31.740 is

00:31:31.920 critical

00:31:32.260 race

00:31:32.580 theory

00:31:32.800 I'll

00:31:32.980 tell you

00:31:33.180 what

00:31:33.280 I

00:31:33.380 told

00:31:33.600 the

00:31:33.760 reporter

00:31:34.140 as

00:31:34.340 we

00:31:34.420 were

00:31:34.540 walking

00:31:34.840 down

00:31:35.120 the

00:31:35.240 hall

00:31:35.380 of

00:31:35.480 the

00:31:35.580 capital

00:31:35.880 I

00:31:36.060 said

00:31:36.240 listen

00:31:36.580 critical

00:31:37.540 race

00:31:37.820 theory

00:31:38.100 traces

00:31:38.500 its

00:31:38.780 origins

00:31:39.300 to

00:31:39.960 Karl

00:31:40.200 Marx

00:31:40.540 and

00:31:40.680 the

00:31:40.780 Marxist

00:31:41.280 Marx

00:31:42.580 posited

00:31:43.600 that

00:31:43.940 all of

00:31:44.380 society

00:31:44.820 can

00:31:45.060 be

00:31:45.260 explained

00:31:45.780 by

00:31:46.000 a

00:31:46.160 fundamental

00:31:46.480 conflict

00:31:47.140 between

00:31:48.300 the

00:31:48.580 socioeconomic

00:31:49.280 classes

00:31:49.760 between

00:31:50.000 the

00:31:50.220 owners

00:31:50.440 of

00:31:50.640 capital

00:31:51.000 and

00:31:51.140 the

00:31:51.220 workers

00:31:51.580 critical

00:31:52.840 race

00:31:53.200 theory

00:31:53.540 uses

00:31:53.940 that

00:31:54.220 same

00:31:54.580 lens

00:31:55.040 except

00:31:55.460 instead

00:31:56.060 of

00:31:56.560 socioeconomic

00:31:57.780 status

00:31:58.340 it

00:31:59.200 uses

00:31:59.580 race

00:32:00.060 so

00:32:00.520 critical

00:32:00.900 race

00:32:01.260 theory

00:32:01.580 explains

00:32:02.420 everything

00:32:04.140 in

00:32:04.640 America

00:32:05.080 and

00:32:05.300 everything

00:32:05.600 in

00:32:05.820 the

00:32:05.940 world

00:32:06.300 through

00:32:07.040 the

00:32:07.320 lens

00:32:07.660 of

00:32:07.860 racial

00:32:08.220 oppression

00:32:08.660 and

00:32:08.920 through

00:32:09.100 the

00:32:09.300 fundamental

00:32:09.680 lens

00:32:10.140 that

00:32:10.320 all

00:32:10.620 of

00:32:10.780 history

00:32:11.180 all

00:32:11.500 of

00:32:11.620 America

00:32:12.040 is

00:32:12.240 explained

00:32:12.780 by

00:32:13.540 racial

00:32:13.880 oppression

00:32:14.300 and

00:32:14.520 what

00:32:14.640 does

00:32:14.760 critical

00:32:15.060 race

00:32:15.360 theory

00:32:15.660 teach

00:32:16.100 it

00:32:16.720 teaches

00:32:17.080 that

00:32:17.460 all

00:32:17.860 white

00:32:18.180 people

00:32:18.480 100%

00:32:19.280 of

00:32:19.400 white

00:32:19.580 people

00:32:19.860 are

00:32:20.040 racist

00:32:20.340 if

00:32:20.600 you

00:32:20.760 are

00:32:20.880 white

00:32:21.180 you

00:32:21.640 are

00:32:21.800 racist

00:32:22.180 it

00:32:22.420 is

00:32:22.560 inherent

00:32:22.980 in

00:32:23.200 being

00:32:23.400 you

00:32:23.540 can

00:32:23.640 never

00:32:23.820 change

00:32:24.100 it

00:32:24.280 it

00:32:24.960 teaches

00:32:25.340 that

00:32:25.760 you

00:32:26.740 can

00:32:26.900 never

00:32:27.080 change

00:32:27.440 it

00:32:27.560 there's

00:32:27.740 nothing

00:32:27.960 you

00:32:28.160 can

00:32:28.320 do

00:32:28.520 if

00:32:28.660 you

00:32:28.820 say

00:32:29.080 you

00:32:29.240 want

00:32:29.400 to

00:32:29.520 change

00:32:29.760 it

00:32:29.860 you're

00:32:30.000 being

00:32:30.240 racist

00:32:30.620 that

00:32:30.940 it

00:32:31.340 is

00:32:31.560 just

00:32:32.580 like

00:32:33.140 the

00:32:33.840 capitalist

00:32:34.460 in

00:32:36.160 Marx's

00:32:36.800 world

00:32:37.140 can

00:32:37.420 never

00:32:37.700 cease

00:32:38.160 to

00:32:38.380 be

00:32:38.500 a

00:32:38.660 capitalist

00:32:39.060 unless

00:32:40.180 he

00:32:41.280 no

00:32:41.420 longer

00:32:41.640 has

00:32:41.860 any

00:32:42.020 capital

00:32:42.320 so

00:32:43.040 unless

00:32:43.300 you

00:32:43.520 are

00:32:43.620 no

00:32:43.780 longer

00:32:44.060 white

00:32:44.380 you

00:32:44.640 can

00:32:44.820 never

00:32:45.040 cease

00:32:45.340 to

00:32:45.480 be

00:32:45.600 a

00:32:45.720 racist

00:32:45.980 it's

00:32:46.240 the

00:32:46.420 same

00:32:46.860 absolute

00:32:47.900 determinism

00:32:48.720 critical

00:32:49.920 race

00:32:50.240 theory

00:32:50.500 also

00:32:50.800 teaches

00:32:51.200 that

00:32:51.420 America

00:32:51.820 is

00:32:52.060 inherently

00:32:52.460 racist

00:32:52.900 the

00:32:53.220 system

00:32:53.720 is

00:32:53.880 racist

00:32:54.140 you

00:32:54.340 hear

00:32:54.540 this

00:32:54.780 phrase

00:32:55.480 systemic

00:32:56.540 racism

00:32:57.100 and

00:32:58.120 people

00:32:58.400 don't

00:32:58.700 quite

00:32:58.960 know

00:32:59.140 what

00:32:59.300 it

00:32:59.420 means

00:32:59.760 and

00:32:59.900 if

00:33:00.160 you

00:33:00.260 get

00:33:00.440 someone

00:33:00.720 who

00:33:00.900 says

00:33:01.200 well

00:33:01.980 no

00:33:02.220 I

00:33:02.380 don't

00:33:02.540 believe

00:33:02.760 in

00:33:02.900 systemic

00:33:03.280 racism

00:33:03.780 people

00:33:04.060 go

00:33:04.260 well

00:33:04.500 hold

00:33:04.940 on

00:33:05.280 a

00:33:05.400 second

00:33:05.500 are

00:33:05.620 you

00:33:05.720 saying

00:33:05.900 there's

00:33:06.100 no

00:33:06.240 racism

00:33:06.640 in

00:33:06.820 the

00:33:06.900 world

00:33:07.120 that's

00:33:07.800 crazy

00:33:08.120 of

00:33:08.300 course

00:33:08.480 they're

00:33:08.700 bigots

00:33:09.120 systemic

00:33:10.220 racism

00:33:10.700 is

00:33:10.960 not

00:33:11.240 saying

00:33:11.660 there's

00:33:11.940 racism

00:33:12.340 in

00:33:12.520 the

00:33:12.600 world

00:33:12.800 there

00:33:13.040 have

00:33:13.660 always

00:33:14.020 been

00:33:14.240 bigots

00:33:14.580 there

00:33:14.720 probably

00:33:14.960 always

00:33:15.260 will

00:33:15.460 be

00:33:15.620 bigots

00:33:16.040 systemic

00:33:17.300 racists

00:33:17.860 is

00:33:18.040 saying

00:33:18.360 the

00:33:18.560 entire

00:33:19.120 system

00:33:19.880 is

00:33:20.660 inherently

00:33:21.220 racist

00:33:21.740 the

00:33:21.980 criminal

00:33:22.240 justice

00:33:22.640 system

00:33:23.120 the

00:33:23.320 legal

00:33:23.580 system

00:33:24.120 the

00:33:24.920 political

00:33:25.340 system

00:33:25.820 everything

00:33:26.400 that

00:33:26.960 exists

00:33:27.400 in

00:33:27.600 America

00:33:28.020 is

00:33:29.340 inherently

00:33:29.840 racist

00:33:30.460 the

00:33:31.640 New York

00:33:31.980 Times

00:33:32.340 embodied

00:33:32.840 this

00:33:33.180 with

00:33:33.340 the

00:33:33.480 1619

00:33:34.100 project

00:33:34.600 where

00:33:34.840 they

00:33:34.960 tried

00:33:35.240 to

00:33:35.440 rewrite

00:33:36.020 American

00:33:36.440 history

00:33:36.820 to

00:33:37.980 say

00:33:38.260 that

00:33:38.440 America

00:33:38.800 wasn't

00:33:39.200 founded

00:33:39.560 in

00:33:39.760 1776

00:33:40.600 it

00:33:40.940 wasn't

00:33:41.220 founded

00:33:41.500 in

00:33:41.680 1787

00:33:42.340 it

00:33:43.080 was

00:33:43.300 founded

00:33:43.820 in

00:33:44.560 1619

00:33:45.520 when

00:33:45.840 they

00:33:45.980 say

00:33:46.200 the

00:33:46.380 first

00:33:46.640 slaves

00:33:47.120 arrived

00:33:47.600 on

00:33:47.820 the

00:33:48.120 American

00:33:48.480 soil

00:33:48.920 and

00:33:49.520 they

00:33:49.640 go

00:33:49.800 on

00:33:50.040 to

00:33:50.180 say

00:33:50.320 the

00:33:50.460 entire

00:33:50.760 history

00:33:51.140 of

00:33:51.280 America

00:33:51.700 is

00:33:52.820 understood

00:33:53.300 as

00:33:53.580 a

00:33:53.740 history

00:33:54.140 of

00:33:54.380 fighting

00:33:54.680 to

00:33:54.920 preserve

00:33:55.300 slavery

00:33:55.820 and

00:33:56.000 to

00:33:56.120 continue

00:33:56.540 white

00:33:56.900 supremacy

00:33:57.440 now

00:33:58.280 all

00:33:58.660 of

00:33:58.820 this

00:33:58.980 is

00:33:59.140 complete

00:33:59.580 and

00:33:59.780 utter

00:34:00.020 garbage

00:34:00.460 and

00:34:00.660 what's

00:34:00.980 terrifying

00:34:01.380 about

00:34:01.600 critical

00:34:01.860 race

00:34:02.140 theory

00:34:02.440 is

00:34:03.380 it's

00:34:03.620 infiltrating

00:34:04.240 our

00:34:04.460 schools

00:34:04.860 if you

00:34:05.240 have

00:34:05.420 grade

00:34:05.680 school

00:34:05.900 kids

00:34:06.300 at

00:34:06.520 a

00:34:06.660 lot

00:34:06.840 of

00:34:06.940 schools

00:34:07.180 in

00:34:07.320 America

00:34:07.700 they're

00:34:08.660 being

00:34:09.000 taught

00:34:09.540 this

00:34:10.920 nonsense

00:34:11.480 but

00:34:12.960 I

00:34:13.160 think

00:34:13.380 understanding

00:34:14.340 the

00:34:16.100 lies

00:34:16.720 that are

00:34:17.020 at

00:34:17.180 the

00:34:17.360 heart

00:34:17.660 of

00:34:17.820 it

00:34:18.040 and

00:34:18.260 this

00:34:18.660 is

00:34:18.880 Marxism

00:34:19.660 combined

00:34:21.620 with

00:34:22.300 intense

00:34:23.220 racial

00:34:23.760 bigotry

00:34:24.280 if

00:34:24.420 you

00:34:24.540 put

00:34:24.740 Marxism

00:34:25.380 and

00:34:25.820 racial

00:34:26.140 bigotry

00:34:26.660 in a

00:34:26.880 blender

00:34:27.180 you

00:34:27.900 get

00:34:28.060 critical

00:34:28.400 race

00:34:28.700 theory

00:34:29.020 and

00:34:29.200 this

00:34:29.360 is

00:34:29.480 what's

00:34:29.700 being

00:34:29.840 taught

00:34:30.080 to

00:34:30.240 our

00:34:30.400 kids

00:34:30.680 and

00:34:31.320 what

00:34:31.600 I

00:34:31.720 think

00:34:31.840 is

00:34:32.000 helpful

00:34:32.300 about

00:34:32.600 your

00:34:32.760 book

00:34:33.080 is

00:34:33.280 for

00:34:34.380 folks

00:34:34.740 that

00:34:34.880 are

00:34:34.960 trying

00:34:35.200 to

00:34:35.360 understand

00:34:35.660 this

00:34:36.200 your

00:34:36.900 book

00:34:37.160 does

00:34:37.400 a

00:34:37.540 good

00:34:37.700 job

00:34:38.040 of

00:34:38.220 tracing

00:34:38.680 the

00:34:38.980 history

00:34:39.380 of

00:34:39.680 it

00:34:39.800 and

00:34:40.100 making

00:34:40.780 it

00:34:41.000 so

00:34:41.140 you

00:34:41.280 can

00:34:41.420 understand

00:34:41.920 what

00:34:42.880 really

00:34:43.100 is

00:34:43.240 going

00:34:43.420 on

00:34:43.640 well

00:34:43.860 this

00:34:44.060 is

00:34:44.300 such

00:34:44.780 a

00:34:44.920 good

00:34:45.080 point

00:34:45.380 that

00:34:45.720 you're

00:34:46.020 making

00:34:46.320 about

00:34:46.500 the

00:34:46.640 classroom

00:34:47.080 which

00:34:47.300 is

00:34:47.440 sometimes

00:34:48.360 to

00:34:48.760 really

00:34:49.180 understand

00:34:49.700 your

00:34:49.960 own

00:34:50.280 views

00:34:50.680 it

00:34:51.360 helps

00:34:51.660 to

00:34:51.880 make

00:34:52.080 the

00:34:52.240 argument

00:34:52.620 from

00:34:52.840 the

00:34:52.960 other

00:34:53.120 side

00:34:53.380 and

00:34:53.480 so

00:34:53.580 what

00:34:53.700 I

00:34:53.960 try

00:34:54.160 to

00:34:54.260 do

00:34:54.360 in

00:34:54.460 speechless

00:34:54.820 is

00:34:55.400 I

00:34:55.500 go

00:34:55.620 all

00:34:55.780 the

00:34:55.900 way

00:34:56.040 back

00:34:56.420 I

00:34:56.820 don't

00:34:57.080 want

00:34:57.320 any

00:34:57.660 loose

00:34:58.060 ends

00:34:58.320 I

00:34:58.460 want

00:34:58.560 to

00:34:58.640 make

00:34:58.800 sure

00:34:58.980 I'm

00:34:59.160 really

00:34:59.540 making

00:34:59.900 the

00:35:00.080 right

00:35:00.660 connections

00:35:01.080 here

00:35:01.340 we've

00:35:01.700 got

00:35:01.760 the

00:35:01.880 right

00:35:02.040 intellectual

00:35:02.460 pedigree

00:35:02.920 of

00:35:03.140 what

00:35:03.360 this

00:35:03.580 phenomenon

00:35:04.460 is

00:35:04.900 and

00:35:05.600 to

00:35:05.860 say

00:35:06.040 okay

00:35:06.340 here

00:35:06.820 are

00:35:06.980 the

00:35:07.140 best

00:35:07.580 arguments

00:35:08.140 that

00:35:08.580 these

00:35:08.800 guys

00:35:09.060 are

00:35:09.220 making

00:35:09.500 here's

00:35:09.800 the

00:35:09.960 absolute

00:35:10.440 strongest

00:35:10.880 argument

00:35:11.300 here's

00:35:11.900 why

00:35:12.080 it's

00:35:12.280 bunk

00:35:12.760 here

00:35:13.260 is

00:35:13.440 why

00:35:13.700 it

00:35:13.900 is

00:35:14.040 evil

00:35:14.880 here

00:35:15.160 is

00:35:15.300 why

00:35:15.480 it's

00:35:15.680 going

00:35:15.780 to

00:35:15.880 destroy

00:35:16.300 the

00:35:16.740 country

00:35:17.100 if

00:35:17.360 we

00:35:17.480 let

00:35:17.720 it

00:35:17.840 continue

00:35:18.160 to

00:35:18.320 go

00:35:18.460 on

00:35:18.640 even

00:35:18.780 more

00:35:19.020 so

00:35:19.320 than

00:35:19.760 it

00:35:19.880 already

00:35:20.260 has

00:35:20.700 and

00:35:21.180 I

00:35:21.360 think

00:35:21.600 frankly

00:35:22.340 if

00:35:22.580 I

00:35:22.700 had

00:35:23.140 to

00:35:23.300 pitch

00:35:23.480 it

00:35:23.660 to

00:35:24.420 you

00:35:24.580 senator

00:35:24.860 the

00:35:25.600 best

00:35:26.240 thing

00:35:26.440 about

00:35:26.680 this

00:35:26.880 book

00:35:27.060 speechless

00:35:27.500 is

00:35:28.480 you

00:35:28.580 get

00:35:28.720 to

00:35:28.880 learn

00:35:29.180 what

00:35:29.480 these

00:35:29.680 kook

00:35:30.180 crazy

00:35:30.920 just

00:35:31.600 terrible

00:35:32.180 dreary

00:35:32.880 polysyllabic

00:35:34.480 awful

00:35:34.880 writers

00:35:35.260 say

00:35:35.620 without

00:35:36.300 having

00:35:36.660 to

00:35:36.860 slog

00:35:37.160 through

00:35:37.400 10,000

00:35:37.920 pages

00:35:38.260 of

00:35:38.580 their

00:35:38.760 impenetrable

00:35:39.560 terrible

00:35:40.320 prose

00:35:40.660 and

00:35:41.500 Michael

00:35:41.760 I

00:35:41.920 do

00:35:42.040 want

00:35:42.140 to

00:35:42.240 clarify

00:35:42.500 one

00:35:42.880 thing

00:35:43.180 if

00:35:43.380 someone

00:35:44.380 goes

00:35:44.720 on

00:35:44.900 Amazon

00:35:45.220 say

00:35:48.640 out

00:35:48.860 the

00:35:48.960 22nd

00:35:49.800 they

00:35:50.220 could

00:35:50.460 also

00:35:51.020 bundle

00:35:51.900 it

00:35:52.200 say

00:35:52.500 with

00:35:52.700 my

00:35:52.900 book

00:35:53.120 one

00:35:53.340 vote

00:35:53.520 away

00:35:53.800 and

00:35:53.980 they

00:35:54.100 could

00:35:54.240 buy

00:35:54.460 one

00:35:54.680 vote

00:35:54.880 away

00:35:55.100 and

00:35:55.260 speechless

00:35:55.640 so

00:35:56.020 they

00:35:56.200 could

00:35:56.340 understand

00:35:56.840 the

00:35:57.440 theoretical

00:35:57.900 origins

00:35:58.580 of

00:35:59.100 censorship

00:35:59.660 and

00:35:59.940 cancel

00:36:00.240 culture

00:36:00.640 and

00:36:00.800 they

00:36:00.920 could

00:36:01.040 understand

00:36:01.440 the

00:36:01.600 legal

00:36:01.780 protections

00:36:02.240 we

00:36:02.520 have

00:36:02.780 and

00:36:03.260 you

00:36:03.360 could

00:36:03.500 get

00:36:03.640 them

00:36:03.780 both

00:36:04.000 shipped

00:36:04.220 to

00:36:04.360 you

00:36:04.460 probably

00:36:04.800 even

00:36:05.100 in

00:36:05.200 the

00:36:05.300 same

00:36:05.480 box

00:36:05.860 probably

00:36:06.240 in

00:36:06.460 the

00:36:06.580 same

00:36:06.780 day

00:36:07.060 even

00:36:07.300 senator

00:36:07.660 you

00:36:08.060 know

00:36:08.280 a man

00:36:09.260 filled

00:36:09.600 with

00:36:09.780 brilliant

00:36:10.100 ideas

00:36:10.540 a man

00:36:11.200 who

00:36:11.380 has

00:36:11.660 excellent

00:36:12.120 taste

00:36:12.460 in

00:36:12.720 books

00:36:12.960 i

00:36:13.160 have

00:36:13.340 to

00:36:13.540 observe

00:36:14.020 as

00:36:14.220 i

00:36:14.360 read

00:36:14.520 these

00:36:14.660 blurbs

00:36:14.940 here

00:36:15.120 well

00:36:15.740 i'm

00:36:15.860 a

00:36:15.980 capitalist

00:36:16.380 you're

00:36:16.940 a

00:36:17.280 capitalist

00:36:17.720 and

00:36:18.180 a

00:36:18.280 man

00:36:18.400 who

00:36:18.520 wrote

00:36:18.620 a

00:36:18.700 great

00:36:18.860 book

00:36:19.000 himself

00:36:19.260 yes

00:36:19.520 i

00:36:19.800 really

00:36:20.020 appreciate

00:36:20.380 it

00:36:20.480 i

00:36:20.560 tell

00:36:20.760 you

00:36:20.880 senator

00:36:21.120 i

00:36:21.760 can't

00:36:21.940 even

00:36:22.020 this

00:36:22.280 is

00:36:22.440 so

00:36:22.640 it's

00:36:22.920 so

00:36:23.140 backwards

00:36:23.480 to

00:36:23.780 me

00:36:23.960 to

00:36:24.260 have

00:36:24.360 the

00:36:24.480 book

00:36:24.620 with

00:36:24.760 words

00:36:25.040 and

00:36:25.260 to

00:36:25.360 be

00:36:25.520 interviewed

00:36:25.880 by

00:36:26.200 you

00:36:26.420 that

00:36:26.740 i

00:36:26.880 have

00:36:27.560 to

00:36:27.680 take

00:36:27.860 over

00:36:40.100 normal

00:36:40.460 i'll

00:36:40.900 be

00:36:41.020 writing

00:36:41.280 blank

00:36:41.600 books

00:36:41.880 again

00:36:42.220 you

00:36:42.840 will

00:36:43.040 be

00:36:43.320 answering

00:36:43.760 all

00:36:44.000 the

00:36:44.120 important

00:36:44.380 questions

00:36:44.720 there

00:36:44.880 are

00:36:44.960 a lot

00:36:45.380 a lot

00:36:45.760 of

00:36:45.880 things

00:36:46.080 going

00:36:46.300 on

00:36:46.500 right

00:36:46.680 now

00:36:46.920 but

00:36:47.700 we'll

00:36:47.800 have

00:36:47.960 to

00:36:48.060 hold

00:36:48.200 it

00:36:48.300 until

00:36:48.500 then

00:36:48.800 thank

00:36:49.260 you

00:36:49.380 for

00:36:49.540 reading

00:36:49.780 the

00:36:49.920 book

00:36:50.160 thank

00:36:50.940 you

00:36:51.100 to

00:36:51.240 all

00:36:51.400 of

00:36:51.520 you

00:36:51.620 out

00:36:51.800 there

00:36:51.980 hopefully

00:36:52.260 you'll

00:36:52.460 read

00:36:52.580 the

00:36:52.680 book

00:36:52.800 as

00:36:52.940 well

00:36:53.100 i'm

00:36:53.340 Michael

00:36:53.540 Knowles

00:36:53.860 this

00:36:54.260 is

00:36:54.380 Verdict

00:36:54.700 with

00:36:55.020 Ted

00:36:55.180 Cruz

00:37:10.100 a

00:37:10.300 political

00:37:10.660 action

00:37:11.140 committee

00:37:11.540 dedicated

00:37:11.940 to

00:37:12.340 supporting

00:37:12.720 conservative

00:37:13.320 causes

00:37:13.800 organizations

00:37:14.700 and

00:37:15.220 candidates

00:37:15.680 across

00:37:16.180 the

00:37:16.400 country

00:37:16.740 in

00:37:17.140 2022

00:37:17.820 jobs

00:37:18.580 freedom

00:37:18.920 and

00:37:19.120 security

00:37:19.520 pack

00:37:19.940 plans

00:37:20.300 to

00:37:20.500 donate

00:37:20.760 to

00:37:21.020 conservative

00:37:21.500 candidates

00:37:22.080 running

00:37:22.400 for

00:37:22.640 congress

00:37:23.120 and

00:37:23.460 help

00:37:23.700 the

00:37:23.860 republican

00:37:24.280 party

00:37:24.780 across

00:37:25.380 the

00:37:25.620 nation

00:37:26.020 this

00:37:26.780 is

00:37:26.920 an

00:37:27.040 iHeart

00:37:27.400 podcast

00:37:27.980 guaranteed

00:37:29.520 human

Verdict with Ted Cruz - June 17, 2021

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