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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- May 02, 2025
Take It Down Passed to STOP Deepfake & Revenge Porn plus Maryland Man AUDIO Shows Wife Beating & Human Trafficking
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361
Misogynist Sentences
9
Hate Speech Sentences
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
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Ben Ferguson with you on this Friday morning.
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It's so nice to have you with us.
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And Senator, we have got some very big legislation
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that you've been fighting hard on.
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The White House got on board and worked with you,
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and I can't believe it,
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but this is something that's actually bipartisan
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happening in Washington, D.C.
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Well, the Take It Down Act
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has now passed the United States Senate.
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It's passed the House, and it is headed to President Trump's desk
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to be signed into law.
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This is legislation that protects kids,
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protects women online from revenge porn,
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from deep fakes that are targeting more and more kids.
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We're going to break all that down,
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explain how that came to pass.
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We also have yet more facts about the Maryland man.
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The Maryland man that the Democrats have decided
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is their poster child.
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It is who they stand for.
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It is the illegal alien MS-13 member
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who now we have growing evidence
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was also active in human trafficking.
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We're going to break that evidence down as well.
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And finally, Doge.
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Elon Musk is laying out yet more shocking revelations
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Doge is uncovering.
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We're going to go through all those as well.
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Now, Senator, this is something you've been working on
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for quite some time.
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The president got involved with this.
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The first lady got involved with this.
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And this is bipartisan in nature,
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which is great to actually see Congress
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do something on a bipartisan level.
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And this is going to protect people,
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a lot of young women and girls,
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especially who have been, in essence,
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blackmailed by exes that wanted to put out things
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that should never be on the Internet with them in it.
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Well, this is unfortunately a growing problem.
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It is a massive problem.
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And there are two big manifestations of it.
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Number one are real images,
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non-consensual intimate images,
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where, say, you have a boyfriend and girlfriend,
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and they take explicit pictures of each other,
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they take explicit videos of each other,
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and then they have an ugly breakup.
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And one or the other is pissed off,
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and they say,
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all right, I'm going to stick it to you,
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I'm going to put these pictures,
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I'm going to put these videos out online,
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and the whole world is going to see you.
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And I've got to say,
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that is wrong.
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It is a grotesque violation of your rights,
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of your privacy,
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and it's a problem we're seeing growing more and more.
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There's a new iteration of it
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that is a product of technology,
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which is now, with artificial intelligence,
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you can create deepfakes,
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where you can create images or videos of real people
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that appear to be real,
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and they're entirely fake.
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And we are seeing the prevalence of deepfake,
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non-consensual intimate images,
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it has grown 3,000% last year.
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Over 90% of the victims
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are either women or teenage girls.
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And I'll tell you how this issue
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first came to my attention.
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It came from a Texas girl
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who was targeted by this,
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a girl named Elliston Berry,
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who last year, she's 15 now,
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last year she was 14,
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she was in ninth grade,
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and she woke up one Monday morning,
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and her phone started blowing up.
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And all of her friends let her know
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that a classmate of hers,
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a boy in her class,
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had taken what was a perfectly innocent picture of her
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on social media,
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and used an AI app online
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to create deepfakes,
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and he created what appeared to be
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naked pictures of her.
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Now they weren't,
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but you couldn't tell from looking at them,
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and then he sent them
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to every one of her classmates.
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So this poor girl,
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look, it's hard to be a teenager,
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it's hard to be a teenage girl,
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but if you could imagine the nightmare
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of every one of your classmates
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thinking they're looking at naked pictures of you.
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She woke up,
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she was in tears,
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it was horrifying.
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And what happened,
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she's a Texan,
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so she and her mother,
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Anna,
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called my office
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and complained to me.
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They said,
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look, can you help us?
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You're our senator,
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can you help us?
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And I gotta say,
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my team did a great job
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that they elevated it to me
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and put this in front of me
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and said,
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look, isn't this horrible
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what happened to this girl?
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And we actually drafted legislation
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to address this problem
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because as we looked at it,
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it was becoming more and more common.
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And the Take It Down Act that I wrote,
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it does two things.
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Number one,
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it makes it a crime,
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a federal felony
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to post non-consensual intimate images,
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either real images
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or deepfakes
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that made through AI.
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And to be clear,
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that's where this has real teeth.
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You just said it is a felony.
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Yes,
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a felony with jail time.
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And a number of states,
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including Texas,
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have criminalized revenge porn,
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but a lot of those states,
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they don't address deepfakes
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because deepfakes are new
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and so it's a hole in the law.
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So part of what Elliston discovered
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in Texas is there was nothing
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she could do about it.
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This kid could send out these pictures
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and there was no consequence at all.
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So number one,
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it makes it a crime.
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But number two,
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there is a persistent problem
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that the tech platforms
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won't take this garbage down.
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And in fact,
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when I introduced the legislation,
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Ellison or her mom came to D.C.
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I sat down with them in my office.
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And when they sat down with me,
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I asked them,
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I said,
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okay,
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what happened to the pictures?
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And this was nine months
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after the incident had happened
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and they expressed
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enormous frustration.
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They said Snapchat
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would not take them down.
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Elliston's mom had called them
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and emailed them
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and repeatedly tried
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to get them taken down.
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Nothing.
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Complete Heisman stiff arm.
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I got to tell you,
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Ben,
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I turned to my team
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and I said,
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I want you to get
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the CEO of Snapchat
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on the phone today.
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I want those pictures down today.
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Within two hours,
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Ben,
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they pulled them down.
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Now,
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you know what?
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It should not take
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a sitting U.S. senator
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making a phone call
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to get pictures like that
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taken down.
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And so what we did,
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we wrote into the law
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a legal obligation
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on the tech platforms part
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that once the victim
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notifies them,
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they have to take the pictures
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or the videos down
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immediately.
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I did this legislation
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with Amy Klobuchar,
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a Democrat in the Senate.
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We passed it through the Senate
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100 to nothing.
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We did it in the last Congress,
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but unfortunately,
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the House didn't get it passed.
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So this Congress,
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we passed it again.
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And then one thing
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that was really terrific,
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the First Lady,
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Melania Trump,
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got actively involved.
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She came to Capitol Hill.
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She pushed for the bill.
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She sat down at a round table
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with Elliston,
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with other victims
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of this growing problem.
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And the First Lady leaned in
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and said to the House,
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take this up
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and get it done.
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And this past week,
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the House did.
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They passed it,
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passed it overwhelmingly.
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And so now it is headed
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to the President's desk.
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President Trump talked about
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this bill in the State of the Union.
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He told the House,
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get it done.
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I want to sign it.
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It's now going to be signed
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into law
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and it's going to protect
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women,
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teenage girls,
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teenage boys,
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all across the country
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from this kind of victimization.
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And this is where
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everyone should be proud
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because not only,
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as you mentioned,
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mandatory takedown,
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you got a 48 hours
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of notification
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by the victim
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or their representatives,
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but the penalty violators
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face up to two years
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in prison for offenses
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involving adults
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up to three years
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if a victim is a minor.
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And this is going
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to send a very clear message.
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You cannot do this anymore.
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And if you do,
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you're going to jail.
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There are real consequences.
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And I will tell you
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the take it down aspect,
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what we did
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is we borrowed
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from another piece
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of legislation
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that's already federal law
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called the Digital Millennium
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Copyright Act.
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So if you tweet out,
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let's say,
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a song from the Lion King,
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it'll get pulled down
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within hours
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because you can't tweet out
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copyrighted material.
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So we used
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that same mechanism,
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the notice and takedown mechanism,
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and we applied it
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to these non-consensual
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intimate images.
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So every tech platform
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has an office
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that knows how to respond
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to this.
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This protects every victim.
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And I'll tell you,
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at our roundtable,
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one of the victims
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was a South Carolina
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state legislator.
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His son was targeted
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and it was a sextortion scam
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and they threatened
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to release the pictures.
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And I got to say,
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his son took his own life.
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Sometimes the consequences
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are incredibly tragic.
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And so this bill
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protects every potential victim.
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Senator,
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we've got some breaking news
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and I hope everyone listening
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is taking notes
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on what we're about
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to tell you
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and what you're going to hear.
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This is yet again
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another bombshell
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blowing up in the face
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of Democrats
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who tried to turn
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a terrorist,
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an MS-13 gang member,
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into just a Maryland man,
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a Maryland father.
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And they're demanding
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he come back to America.
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They've flown down
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using taxpayers' money
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to head down
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to meet with him
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since he's been deported
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and they're demanding
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he come back.
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Now we have audio
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that's saying
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who he really is.
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Well, the Democrats
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have made a really
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astonishing choice
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to go all in
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in support of
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letting more illegal immigrants
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into this country,
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back into this country,
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and in particular
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defending
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MS-13 gang members
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and wife beaters,
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people who commit
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domestic violence.
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It really is
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an astonishing decision
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that the Democrats,
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obviously,
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you have Chris Van Hollen,
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the senator from Maryland,
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who flew down
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to El Salvador
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and basically played footsie
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with this guy.
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You have House Democrats
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going down there.
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You have Cory Booker
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doing a sit-in
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on the steps of the Capitol,
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all in defense of
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what they say
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is this poorly targeted,
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poor, defenseless Maryland man.
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Well, facts are stubborn things.
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I want you to listen
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to this audio.
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This is the, quote,
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Marilyn Mann's wife
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testifying in 2020 in court
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seeking a protective order.
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And listen to what she says
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about this individual
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who the Democrats
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are now trying to turn
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into Mother Teresa.
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Give a listen.
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I came to fill out
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a protective order.
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I think it was in December.
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But I didn't show up
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to the court
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because his family, like,
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washed my brain
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telling me that his dad
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was sick
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and not to do it.
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So I didn't do anything.
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But after that,
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it was like,
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I would call the police.
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I have a lot of police reports.
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And I kept trying
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to get to the door basement
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to try to open the door.
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And then, like,
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he pushed me.
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So then when I was able
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to go outside
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to get a phone,
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I called 911
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from a disconnected phone.
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Now, they took a long time
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to get to the house.
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It was probably, like,
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20, 30 minutes.
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So I saw a neighbor
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walking his dog.
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And I opened the door
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and I was like,
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help.
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And then when he heard me,
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like, he grabbed me
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from my hair
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and then he slapped me.
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And then the neighbor, like,
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he didn't know what to do.
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He didn't know what to react.
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I have pictures
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of the evidence,
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like, all the bruises.
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Because even on Wednesday,
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he hit me, like,
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around, like,
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3 in the morning.
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He would just wake up
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and, like, hit me.
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And then last Saturday
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from my daughter's birthday party,
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before I went
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to my daughter's birthday party,
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he slapped me three times.
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And then last week,
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I did call the police.
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My sister called the police
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because he hit me
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in front of my sister.
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I listen to that, Senator,
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and it makes me angry.
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It makes me so sad
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for not only her,
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but also for the kids involved.
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Because if you've ever known
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someone that's gone through
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abuse like this,
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you never forget
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what their stories sound like.
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And the part there
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that she said,
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I, quote,
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have a lot of police reports.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, this was a repeated problem
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according to his wife's testimony
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in court.
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He repeatedly engaged in violence.
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He punched her.
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He slapped her.
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He did so in front of their kids.
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He did so in front of her sister.
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That's what her testimony was.
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And understand,
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this is who the Democrats
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are elevating and saying,
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it is a travesty of justice
00:12:13.500
that this violent wife-beater
00:12:16.400
is no longer in this country.
00:12:18.440
Now, mind you,
00:12:19.640
despite his beating up his wife,
00:12:22.680
despite his being illegally
00:12:26.220
in this country,
00:12:27.040
despite his being allegedly,
00:12:29.420
in two courts concluded,
00:12:30.480
an MS-13 gang member,
00:12:31.940
the Democrats are all in
00:12:32.960
in defending him.
00:12:33.660
And there's another piece of audio
00:12:35.280
I want you to listen to.
00:12:37.020
And this is a piece of audio
00:12:38.660
from 2022,
00:12:39.700
so just a couple of years ago.
00:12:41.440
And there was a traffic stop.
00:12:43.140
And he was stopped
00:12:44.220
driving a vehicle
00:12:46.800
with eight people in the back.
00:12:48.860
And I want you to listen
00:12:49.960
to the police officers
00:12:51.740
in the traffic stop
00:12:53.400
and what their assessment was
00:12:55.580
of what was going on.
00:12:56.420
Give a listen to this.
00:12:57.400
Yeah, you're going to hear
00:12:58.020
some road noise
00:12:59.300
of cars passing by,
00:13:00.820
just so you know what that is.
00:13:02.060
And you will hear this,
00:13:03.520
these police officers
00:13:04.320
on body camera.
00:13:05.540
Listen carefully.
00:13:06.240
You know what you got, right?
00:13:11.500
Huh?
00:13:11.860
You know what you got here, right?
00:13:13.320
Uh, no.
00:13:15.420
He's, uh,
00:13:16.640
he's hauling these people
00:13:17.800
for money,
00:13:18.520
is what he's doing.
00:13:19.420
But sometimes they
00:13:20.580
go mingle dope in there.
00:13:21.720
No.
00:13:22.280
What?
00:13:22.860
Did you see that
00:13:23.720
squad in the back?
00:13:24.860
There's eight people in there.
00:13:26.680
Yeah, I don't know.
00:13:27.440
I didn't know that.
00:13:28.400
They put extra row of seats in there.
00:13:30.220
Yeah, yeah.
00:13:30.720
So he's getting paid
00:13:32.000
to all the people.
00:13:32.820
Probably to Maryland,
00:13:33.780
I would say,
00:13:34.380
if I had my guess.
00:13:35.700
Well, matches up
00:13:36.720
with the Maryland dad thing, right?
00:13:38.300
The Maryland man.
00:13:39.120
They're like,
00:13:39.440
oh, by the way,
00:13:40.260
this car has been retrofitted
00:13:42.120
to add an entire
00:13:44.120
another row of seats.
00:13:46.180
They've never seen a car
00:13:47.360
this model
00:13:48.080
with this many seats in it.
00:13:49.920
There's another example
00:13:51.360
of the human smuggling.
00:13:53.040
Look, look,
00:13:53.620
this is Maryland man.
00:13:54.800
He's hauling them to Maryland.
00:13:56.420
The police officer's
00:13:57.380
immediate reaction.
00:13:58.300
You know what this guy's doing.
00:13:59.480
He's hauling these people
00:14:00.380
for money.
00:14:01.420
Eight people.
00:14:02.200
They added an extra row of seats.
00:14:04.160
So you've got
00:14:04.880
an illegal alien wife beater
00:14:06.440
who's an MS-13 gang member
00:14:08.240
and who is actively engaged
00:14:10.760
in human trafficking.
00:14:12.440
This is the poster child
00:14:13.840
for the Democrats.
00:14:14.480
This is who they've decided
00:14:15.700
to go all in on
00:14:17.080
saying we want this person
00:14:20.580
back in America
00:14:22.120
and we want more people like him.
00:14:23.620
And I've got to say,
00:14:25.240
we've also seen
00:14:26.660
a fairly amazing thing
00:14:28.140
with the Democrats
00:14:28.740
and the media
00:14:29.340
going crazy
00:14:30.900
about an interview
00:14:32.140
that President Trump
00:14:33.220
did in the Oval Office
00:14:34.280
with ABC News.
00:14:35.780
And in particular,
00:14:36.880
President Trump asserted
00:14:38.060
that he had MS-13
00:14:39.260
tattooed on his knuckles.
00:14:41.620
And the media
00:14:42.580
has been having
00:14:43.300
a field day
00:14:44.080
saying,
00:14:44.560
no, no, no,
00:14:45.060
that's a lie.
00:14:45.840
It's photoshopped.
00:14:46.680
It's not true.
00:14:47.880
So,
00:14:48.500
you can go and look
00:14:49.700
at the pictures.
00:14:50.300
Go look online
00:14:51.020
what he has tattooed
00:14:51.860
on his knuckles.
00:14:52.300
He's got tattoos
00:14:53.280
on each of the four knuckles
00:14:55.120
of his fingers.
00:14:56.540
He has,
00:14:57.180
the first tattoo
00:14:58.080
is a marijuana leaf.
00:14:59.820
Now,
00:15:00.340
marijuana leaf
00:15:01.320
stands for M.
00:15:03.800
The second tattoo
00:15:05.180
is of a smiley face.
00:15:07.580
The smiley face
00:15:08.860
stands for S.
00:15:11.000
The third tattoo
00:15:12.360
on his middle finger
00:15:13.320
is of a cross.
00:15:15.100
And the cross,
00:15:16.140
the up and down,
00:15:16.960
stands for 1.
00:15:18.040
And the fourth tattoo
00:15:20.140
on his index finger
00:15:22.140
is of a skull,
00:15:24.480
which is the same shape
00:15:26.000
as the number 3.
00:15:27.420
Now,
00:15:27.960
what he actually has
00:15:29.220
is those four tattoos.
00:15:30.700
And what
00:15:31.140
the White House tweeted out
00:15:33.280
was a picture
00:15:34.260
of those four tattoos.
00:15:35.400
And then it wrote
00:15:35.940
above them,
00:15:36.860
above the marijuana leaf,
00:15:38.080
it wrote an M
00:15:38.760
because that's what
00:15:39.520
the marijuana leaf
00:15:40.280
stands for.
00:15:40.980
Above the smiley face,
00:15:41.940
it wrote an S
00:15:42.520
because that's what
00:15:43.360
the smiley face
00:15:44.020
stands for.
00:15:44.640
Above the cross,
00:15:45.320
it wrote a 1
00:15:45.860
because that's what
00:15:46.400
the cross stands for.
00:15:47.700
And above the skull,
00:15:49.160
it wrote a 3
00:15:49.740
because that's what
00:15:50.720
the skull stands for.
00:15:53.000
So the four symbols
00:15:54.440
are of MS-13.
00:15:56.360
Now,
00:15:57.480
the Democrats
00:15:58.160
and the corporate media
00:15:59.640
are clutching their pearls
00:16:00.720
going,
00:16:01.020
no, no, no,
00:16:01.380
it didn't actually have
00:16:02.820
the MS-13.
00:16:04.040
That was a Photoshop.
00:16:06.220
Well, yes,
00:16:07.320
but what it did have
00:16:08.760
is clearly symbolizing
00:16:11.220
MS-13.
00:16:12.420
And they don't want
00:16:13.180
people to know that
00:16:14.120
because it is
00:16:14.880
fairly amazing
00:16:15.740
that Akeem Jeffries,
00:16:19.460
the Democrat leader
00:16:20.420
in the House,
00:16:21.560
Chuck Schumer,
00:16:22.580
Chris Van Hollen,
00:16:23.940
the Democrats
00:16:24.920
in both the Senate
00:16:25.840
and House
00:16:26.260
have decided
00:16:27.020
MS-13 gang members,
00:16:29.260
that's who we defend,
00:16:30.380
that's who we're backing up.
00:16:31.840
You also look at
00:16:33.460
this individual
00:16:34.520
and the new DEA nominee
00:16:36.920
said that
00:16:39.080
this guy's tattoos
00:16:40.360
consist with
00:16:41.220
MS-13 membership.
00:16:42.600
again,
00:16:43.680
blowing the narrative
00:16:44.840
out of the water
00:16:45.840
from the left
00:16:46.500
that these tattoos
00:16:47.380
are meaningless.
00:16:48.260
They have nothing
00:16:49.360
to do with MS-13.
00:16:50.580
The guy who does this
00:16:51.800
for a living
00:16:52.260
is like,
00:16:52.760
yes,
00:16:53.020
we see this all the time.
00:16:54.380
Yes,
00:16:54.700
this is what it looks like
00:16:55.820
when you have these tattoos
00:16:56.880
on your knuckle.
00:16:57.600
Yes,
00:16:57.820
this is what these
00:16:58.520
gang members do.
00:17:00.080
And then you go back
00:17:01.640
to what we're now
00:17:02.820
finding out
00:17:03.540
in this recording
00:17:04.500
and the traffic stop here
00:17:06.480
and also
00:17:07.480
from new reporting
00:17:09.080
from basically
00:17:10.380
in essence
00:17:11.020
a whistleblower
00:17:11.780
that is saying
00:17:13.120
that not only
00:17:14.320
was this guy
00:17:15.500
attacking his wife
00:17:17.000
and running
00:17:18.040
human trafficking,
00:17:19.360
but we also know
00:17:21.080
from these court filings
00:17:22.520
that have come out
00:17:23.240
that his wife
00:17:24.600
has said
00:17:25.360
that she was afraid
00:17:27.140
because he said
00:17:27.900
he was going to kill her.
00:17:29.460
So this is a guy
00:17:31.000
that is threatening
00:17:32.240
to kill his wife
00:17:33.260
based on what we're seeing
00:17:34.460
from the court documents
00:17:35.640
and he's an individual
00:17:37.160
that is out there
00:17:38.500
that should never
00:17:39.580
have been in this country
00:17:40.540
and he should be gone.
00:17:43.280
And so when you look
00:17:44.400
at this,
00:17:45.000
I truly am amazed
00:17:46.880
that the Democratic Party
00:17:48.380
is saying
00:17:48.900
we don't care
00:17:49.760
about American citizens.
00:17:51.680
We don't come
00:17:52.220
to your aid.
00:17:53.280
We don't come
00:17:53.780
to your comfort
00:17:54.400
when these people
00:17:55.100
commit crimes against you.
00:17:56.320
No, no.
00:17:56.780
We want to go
00:17:57.820
find the ones
00:17:58.700
that have been deported
00:17:59.320
and bring them back
00:18:00.020
to America.
00:18:01.060
How in the hell
00:18:02.200
do they think
00:18:03.080
the American people
00:18:03.860
are going to stand
00:18:04.480
with them
00:18:04.740
on this issue,
00:18:05.480
Senator?
00:18:05.640
Yeah, look,
00:18:06.420
it's where they are
00:18:07.220
and I've got to say
00:18:08.220
this week
00:18:08.700
I got in a Twitter battle
00:18:10.000
with Akeem Jeffries,
00:18:11.060
the head of the Democrats
00:18:12.180
in the House.
00:18:13.360
I tweeted out,
00:18:14.560
I said,
00:18:14.940
Akeem,
00:18:15.660
allowing your members
00:18:16.600
to fly to El Salvador
00:18:17.660
on the taxpayer's dime
00:18:19.100
to play footsie
00:18:20.280
with violent gang members
00:18:21.500
was obviously
00:18:22.620
astonishingly bad politics.
00:18:25.080
Please keep it up.
00:18:27.340
And I've got to say,
00:18:28.220
Akeem Jeffries,
00:18:28.840
he got really angry
00:18:29.960
and he tweeted back,
00:18:32.240
this is from someone
00:18:33.060
who abandoned his state
00:18:34.080
during the historic
00:18:34.900
winter storm
00:18:35.580
to vacation in Cancun.
00:18:37.180
No one takes you seriously
00:18:38.160
at this point.
00:18:39.500
And that's Leader Jeffries
00:18:41.260
to you, Edward.
00:18:43.080
Well, sorry, Akeem,
00:18:44.280
Leader Jeffries
00:18:44.900
is not what I call you,
00:18:46.280
but it's okay.
00:18:47.080
I just tweeted back at him.
00:18:49.120
It's okay, Akeem.
00:18:50.860
I'm very sorry
00:18:52.020
I beat your friend's ass.
00:18:54.060
And I sent out a picture
00:18:54.900
because Colin Allred,
00:18:55.900
the Democrat who ran
00:18:56.580
against me last time,
00:18:57.880
was buddies with Akeem Jeffries
00:18:59.440
and he lost by nine points
00:19:01.020
in a million votes.
00:19:02.560
And look,
00:19:03.500
it shows
00:19:04.400
who the Democrats
00:19:05.560
are right now.
00:19:06.500
They support
00:19:07.280
illegal immigrants
00:19:08.380
and wife beaters
00:19:09.720
and gang members.
00:19:11.560
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00:19:12.400
are looking for more.
00:19:13.700
More out of themselves,
00:19:14.780
their businesses,
00:19:15.720
their elected leaders,
00:19:16.500
and the world around them.
00:19:17.920
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00:19:42.660
Senator,
00:19:43.380
I want to talk about
00:19:44.700
what we just found out
00:19:46.120
with Doge.
00:19:47.480
And I think it's
00:19:48.500
an important point
00:19:49.700
to reset
00:19:50.360
because we saw
00:19:51.300
a lot of press
00:19:52.520
about Doge early on.
00:19:54.240
We've now moved on
00:19:55.160
to other topics,
00:19:56.160
or I should say
00:19:56.500
the media has moved on
00:19:57.540
to other topics.
00:19:58.400
It does not mean
00:19:59.380
that Elon Musk
00:20:00.280
and the Doge staff
00:20:01.720
have stopped
00:20:02.520
doing their job.
00:20:03.620
In fact,
00:20:04.120
they are still finding
00:20:06.100
incredible amounts
00:20:07.800
of waste,
00:20:08.720
fraud,
00:20:09.100
and abuse.
00:20:10.240
And they sat down
00:20:11.100
with Jesse Waters
00:20:11.880
at Fox
00:20:12.400
to kind of give an update
00:20:13.760
of like,
00:20:14.140
hey,
00:20:14.320
here we are.
00:20:14.880
It was also
00:20:15.840
a very cool interview
00:20:16.880
because what we're witnessing
00:20:18.880
is Elon Musk
00:20:19.900
showing these do-gooders
00:20:22.460
that he has brought in.
00:20:24.060
They could be making
00:20:24.700
a lot more money
00:20:25.440
in the private sector.
00:20:26.920
There are a lot of young,
00:20:28.080
brilliant minds
00:20:29.040
that are finding
00:20:30.000
all of this information
00:20:31.500
and digging
00:20:32.420
and digging
00:20:32.940
in our government.
00:20:33.720
And he's letting them
00:20:34.960
tell the stories
00:20:35.620
of what they're finding.
00:20:36.460
I love this management
00:20:37.680
style from him.
00:20:38.780
Well,
00:20:39.260
I got to say,
00:20:40.100
every week,
00:20:41.120
there are new bombshells
00:20:42.200
that are coming out
00:20:42.860
from Doge
00:20:43.560
of just astonishing
00:20:45.140
waste,
00:20:46.300
fraud,
00:20:46.560
and abuse.
00:20:47.280
And so this latest interview
00:20:48.720
that Elon did
00:20:50.380
with Jesse Waters,
00:20:51.780
he laid out,
00:20:52.980
for example,
00:20:54.160
that the Institute of Peace
00:20:56.480
had a $130,000 contract
00:20:59.900
with a former member
00:21:02.380
of the Taliban.
00:21:03.880
Now,
00:21:04.740
just let that sink in
00:21:06.040
for a minute.
00:21:06.940
$130,000
00:21:07.820
to a former member
00:21:09.820
of the Taliban,
00:21:11.160
and that is
00:21:12.000
from the,
00:21:13.360
quote,
00:21:13.580
Institute of Peace.
00:21:15.660
Nothing like paying
00:21:16.980
a terrorist
00:21:18.160
if you're the Institute of Peace.
00:21:20.140
And by the way,
00:21:20.860
that same Institute of Peace
00:21:22.180
deleted one terabyte
00:21:25.420
of accounting records
00:21:27.580
when Doge
00:21:28.500
entered their headquarters.
00:21:29.760
So they came in.
00:21:30.800
I got to tell you,
00:21:31.680
if you're prosecuting
00:21:33.160
criminal conduct
00:21:33.900
in a court of law
00:21:34.700
and a defendant
00:21:36.920
destroys evidence,
00:21:38.840
deletes data
00:21:40.040
on their computer,
00:21:41.420
burns papers,
00:21:43.000
burns receipts,
00:21:43.900
burns photographs,
00:21:45.360
that can be taken
00:21:46.980
as evidence of guilt,
00:21:48.780
the fact that you are
00:21:49.900
deleting evidence.
00:21:51.280
But here,
00:21:51.760
give a listen
00:21:52.260
to the description
00:21:52.900
of what they found
00:21:53.820
from the Institute of Peace.
00:21:55.900
Yeah,
00:21:56.280
so it was by far
00:21:57.280
the least peaceful agency
00:21:58.600
that we've worked with,
00:21:59.640
ironically.
00:22:00.860
Of course.
00:22:01.700
Additionally,
00:22:02.240
we found that
00:22:02.600
they were spending money
00:22:03.240
on things like private jets
00:22:04.640
and they even had
00:22:05.600
a $130,000 contract
00:22:07.540
with a former member
00:22:08.520
of the Taliban.
00:22:09.660
This is real.
00:22:10.520
We don't encounter
00:22:11.000
that at most agencies.
00:22:12.120
Yeah.
00:22:13.220
What was the money
00:22:14.700
going to the Taliban for?
00:22:16.960
So it was a contractor.
00:22:18.180
They received $130,000
00:22:19.660
for generic services.
00:22:21.260
And to Elon's point,
00:22:21.900
there was not actually
00:22:22.540
a clear description
00:22:23.360
of what the contractor
00:22:24.220
services were for.
00:22:25.680
Was it for opium?
00:22:28.420
Unclear.
00:22:29.640
Or weapons?
00:22:30.640
Or nothing.
00:22:32.840
Or nothing.
00:22:33.640
Or abroad.
00:22:35.260
Or, yeah, nothing.
00:22:35.800
And you naturally
00:22:36.600
have to ask the question,
00:22:37.400
how did we get here?
00:22:38.440
Like, when the country
00:22:39.020
was founded,
00:22:39.560
there were only four agencies.
00:22:41.320
Today, there are over 400.
00:22:43.060
So there's been
00:22:43.520
a 100x increase
00:22:44.520
in the number of agencies
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since the founding
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of the nation.
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And thanks to President Trump,
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he's now signed
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two executive orders
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to start to reduce
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the number of agencies
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in the government.
00:22:52.420
And the Institute of Peace
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was one of them,
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which is why our team
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went in to try and understand
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what was going on.
00:22:56.080
And that's when we found
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all of the craziness,
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like the weapons
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in their armory.
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We found the payments
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to the Taliban.
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Oh, yeah.
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The accountant.
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Oh, yeah.
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Try to hide the evidence.
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Right.
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So just a few hours
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after we got
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into their headquarters,
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we found that
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their chief accountant
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had actually deleted
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over a terabyte
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of accounting records
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from several leaders.
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So you'd have to ask
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the question,
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well, why would somebody
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do that?
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The Doge team,
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unfortunately,
00:23:18.080
was able to recover
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that data with the help
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of a few great employees
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at the Institute of Peace.
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And I think the most
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troubling thing was
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they received $55 million
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a year from Congress
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and any money
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that went unspent,
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instead of returning
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that to Congress,
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they would sweep it
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into a private bank account,
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which had no congressional
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oversight.
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And that's what they would
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use to fund things
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like events
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at their headquarters
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and the private jets.
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And so I think
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it's a great example
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because most Americans
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don't know what's going on
00:23:43.480
at a lot of these
00:23:44.020
smaller agencies.
00:23:44.600
And this is, I think,
00:23:45.540
the most extreme case
00:23:46.380
of some of the wasteful
00:23:49.300
spend that we're finding.
00:23:50.640
So the agencies
00:23:51.240
are hiding money from you.
00:23:53.240
They're sending it
00:23:54.140
to the Taliban.
00:23:55.620
They have loaded weapons
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in the department buildings.
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At the Institute of Peace.
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At the Institute of Peace.
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That's right.
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So this is a cover-up
00:24:04.440
when you guys roll in.
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This one, yes,
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a cover-up.
00:24:07.860
It's a cover-up.
00:24:08.720
They did delete
00:24:09.980
a vast amount
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of financial information.
00:24:12.440
That's really
00:24:13.980
a definition of a cover-up.
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Isn't that illegal
00:24:15.880
to delete evidence?
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Yes.
00:24:18.160
Shred documents?
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It is.
00:24:20.080
It's certainly illegal
00:24:20.780
to delete accounting records
00:24:22.240
that Congress
00:24:23.580
would certainly want to know
00:24:24.540
where the congressionally
00:24:25.740
appropriated funds
00:24:26.340
are going from taxpayers.
00:24:28.200
When you catch them
00:24:29.180
going Hillary-style
00:24:30.500
on their computers,
00:24:32.400
do you refer this
00:24:33.900
to the Department of Justice?
00:24:35.340
In this case,
00:24:36.000
we did refer the evidence
00:24:36.980
in the accounting example
00:24:38.080
to the FBI and DOJ.
00:24:40.200
We were proud to do that.
00:24:42.480
So, yes, we did.
00:24:43.780
Resistance has shown...
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I mean,
00:24:46.260
let's just go back
00:24:47.380
to what you said,
00:24:48.380
Senator, a moment ago,
00:24:49.100
and dive into this
00:24:50.560
a little bit more.
00:24:51.620
If this is that type
00:24:53.240
of activity
00:24:53.860
and this type of cover-up,
00:24:56.080
and referring this
00:24:57.460
to the DOJ,
00:24:58.360
what would the next step
00:24:59.540
be on that?
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And then also,
00:25:02.220
what can Congress do,
00:25:03.680
if anything,
00:25:04.780
knowing now
00:25:05.640
what they've just told you?
00:25:07.400
Look, I've got to say
00:25:08.320
almost every word of that
00:25:09.540
is shocking.
00:25:11.160
That they gave
00:25:12.340
$130,000
00:25:13.380
to a foreign member
00:25:14.120
of the Taliban,
00:25:15.000
that's astonishing.
00:25:16.120
That they spent
00:25:17.560
taxpayer money
00:25:18.440
on private jets,
00:25:19.580
that's astonishing.
00:25:21.180
That the Institute of Peace
00:25:23.580
had an armory
00:25:24.720
with a whole bunch
00:25:26.100
of weapons.
00:25:26.680
Now, let me repeat that.
00:25:27.640
The Institute of Peace
00:25:28.900
apparently felt the need
00:25:30.760
to be packing,
00:25:32.400
and when DOJ showed up,
00:25:34.580
they started deleting
00:25:35.540
their accounting records,
00:25:36.760
which screams guilt.
00:25:38.720
By the way,
00:25:39.360
when President Trump
00:25:40.380
did the interview
00:25:40.920
with ABC News
00:25:41.880
in the Oval,
00:25:42.760
one of the things
00:25:43.300
ABC News says as well,
00:25:44.840
there have been no referrals
00:25:46.040
to the Department of Justice.
00:25:47.700
And President Trump
00:25:48.700
quite rightly says,
00:25:49.660
how do you know that?
00:25:50.780
Well, this is one.
00:25:52.540
And it turns out
00:25:53.140
there have been
00:25:53.780
multiple referrals
00:25:54.660
to the Department of Justice
00:25:55.720
for fraud.
00:25:56.820
It's just ABC News
00:25:57.920
doesn't want people
00:25:58.540
to know that.
00:25:59.360
Here, I want you to listen
00:25:59.980
to another clip.
00:26:00.660
This is another clip
00:26:01.520
where the Department
00:26:03.480
of Education
00:26:04.220
had a $4 billion
00:26:06.740
COVID fund
00:26:08.180
that let government
00:26:09.720
employees draw down.
00:26:11.020
They used it
00:26:11.580
for things like parties
00:26:13.000
and to rent out venues
00:26:14.780
like Caesars Palace.
00:26:16.040
Give a listen.
00:26:17.180
There was a $4 billion
00:26:19.060
COVID fund
00:26:20.160
in the Department
00:26:21.400
of Education,
00:26:22.220
and there was
00:26:23.420
no receipts required,
00:26:24.420
so people would just
00:26:25.040
draw down on it.
00:26:25.920
And when people
00:26:26.580
looked into it,
00:26:27.200
this wasn't us,
00:26:27.820
this was before us,
00:26:29.140
they found that money
00:26:30.100
was being used
00:26:30.640
to rent out Caesars Palace
00:26:31.600
for parties,
00:26:32.360
rent out stadiums,
00:26:33.480
et cetera.
00:26:34.760
And so the one change
00:26:36.120
that DOJ made
00:26:36.980
with Department of Education
00:26:37.920
is we had the simple
00:26:39.160
requirement that
00:26:39.840
if you draw down money,
00:26:40.800
you must first
00:26:41.920
upload a receipt.
00:26:43.300
That was the only change
00:26:44.520
that was made.
00:26:45.220
You must upload
00:26:45.780
your receipt.
00:26:46.600
And upon doing so,
00:26:47.660
nobody drew down
00:26:48.820
any money anymore.
00:26:50.140
Yes, but we didn't
00:26:51.260
say that we'd
00:26:52.140
check the receipt.
00:26:53.020
You could send
00:26:53.720
a fake receipt.
00:26:54.820
You could send
00:26:55.400
a picture of your dog.
00:26:57.980
Anything.
00:26:58.680
Anything.
00:26:59.440
Anything.
00:27:00.640
And as soon as
00:27:02.760
we asked for anything
00:27:03.700
at all,
00:27:05.080
suddenly the requests
00:27:06.360
were like,
00:27:06.680
oh, we don't need
00:27:07.200
it anymore.
00:27:08.000
Huh, that's interesting.
00:27:09.000
They were renting
00:27:09.840
Caesars Palace.
00:27:11.780
Yes.
00:27:12.440
Like, basically
00:27:13.320
partying on the
00:27:14.140
taxpayer money.
00:27:15.380
Basically partying
00:27:16.560
on the taxpayer's money.
00:27:18.600
This sounds criminal.
00:27:19.960
Let me just ask,
00:27:21.380
like,
00:27:21.880
the man on the street,
00:27:25.060
did you think
00:27:26.460
the Department of Education
00:27:28.220
was spending
00:27:29.960
your money,
00:27:31.060
your taxpayer money,
00:27:32.180
to rent out
00:27:33.140
Caesars Palace?
00:27:34.180
That is the very
00:27:36.180
definition of
00:27:37.340
waste,
00:27:37.980
fraud,
00:27:38.360
and abuse.
00:27:39.360
Four billion dollars
00:27:40.580
in a COVID slush fund
00:27:41.900
with zero receipts
00:27:44.020
required.
00:27:45.240
Let me just say,
00:27:46.040
thank God for
00:27:46.620
President Trump
00:27:47.300
and Elon Musk
00:27:48.060
and Doge
00:27:48.720
uncovering this,
00:27:50.620
revealing it,
00:27:51.300
because it is
00:27:51.820
completely indefensible.
00:27:52.960
And by the way,
00:27:53.900
the Democrats,
00:27:54.800
just like they've
00:27:55.500
decided they're all
00:27:56.400
in for illegal
00:27:57.020
immigrants and gang
00:27:57.820
members and violent
00:27:58.520
criminals and white
00:27:59.620
beaters,
00:28:00.180
they're also all in
00:28:01.400
for this kind of
00:28:02.140
waste, fraud,
00:28:02.640
and abuse,
00:28:03.460
including renting
00:28:04.200
out Caesars Palace
00:28:05.160
with your taxpayer money.
00:28:07.540
It's truly an
00:28:08.160
incredible story,
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