Verdict with Ted Cruz - December 01, 2025


Terror Comes to America from Biden Afghan Terrorists


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32 minutes

Words per Minute

172.97572

Word Count

5,654

Sentence Count

415

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

15


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Transcript

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00:00:05.300 Welcome to this verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:08.580 It's so nice to have you with us.
00:00:09.980 And Senator, there has been a lot that has happened in this country,
00:00:13.100 dealing with people that have come into this country unvetted.
00:00:16.220 And now we have seen an attack.
00:00:18.360 It's cost people their lives.
00:00:20.020 And not only that, we've also found others that are now threatening to do violence in America.
00:00:24.900 I'm angry about it.
00:00:26.020 A lot of Americans are.
00:00:27.280 And finding out just how ignorant the last administration was
00:00:30.420 and letting people in is truly shocking and a real national security issue now.
00:00:35.540 Well, it's truly horrific what happened on Wednesday, the Wednesday before Thanksgiving,
00:00:40.220 two National Guard members, Sarah Beckstrom, age 20, and Andrew Wolfe, age 24,
00:00:45.440 were shot less than 24 hours after they were sworn in.
00:00:49.640 Sarah tragically passed away on Thanksgiving Day.
00:00:52.900 As you and I are recording this, Andrew is still fighting for his life.
00:00:57.100 But in very serious condition.
00:01:00.520 The shooter, as we all know, was an Afghan national who Joe Biden brought to the United States,
00:01:07.780 who had very limited vetting, who was released, who was living in Washington State,
00:01:13.920 who got in a car and drove from Washington State to Washington, D.C.,
00:01:17.740 pulled out a gun and shot these two National Guard members.
00:01:21.740 Now, if that is not infuriating, then I don't know what is.
00:01:27.800 And in particular, Ben, some of us, including the two of us, including the Verdict podcast,
00:01:33.500 have been predicting this was going to happen for more than four years.
00:01:37.500 When Joe Biden began doing this, when Joe Biden began bringing in thousands upon thousands of unvetted Afghan nationals,
00:01:45.700 just bringing in people who who were in a war torn country where radical Islamic terrorism is rife
00:01:52.800 and engaging in little to no vetting, this was sadly the predictable and the predicted outcome.
00:01:59.940 They also lied about it.
00:02:02.120 And that's something else that I think people need to understand is they tried to act like this was no big deal early on,
00:02:09.360 Senator, that we were vetting and they flat out lied to the American people
00:02:13.740 because they were trying to cover for the disastrous exit of Afghanistan.
00:02:17.600 Well, that's exactly right.
00:02:19.900 And if you remember, the exit of Afghanistan was when the Biden presidency began to collapse there.
00:02:27.860 You know, the Biden presidency was extremely political and their poll numbers dropped 10 points when it was an utter disaster.
00:02:36.260 They pulled out of Afghanistan.
00:02:37.360 If you remember, they pulled out.
00:02:38.560 They wanted to be out by September 11th, the 20th anniversary of September 11th.
00:02:42.480 And so they ordered the troops out with no, no level of competence, no level.
00:02:48.680 The military told them, look, we need sufficient troop levels to at least do the evacuation.
00:02:53.200 We need sufficient troop levels to have a secure evacuation at Bagram airfield that we had spent billions of dollars building.
00:03:00.840 It was safe.
00:03:01.500 It was secure.
00:03:02.080 If you wanted to do an evacuation, it was the right place to do it from.
00:03:05.360 But the Biden political operative said, no, we want the number down to 2,500 troops by a date certain.
00:03:10.560 And so they abandoned Bagram.
00:03:11.840 They just gave it to the Taliban.
00:03:14.040 They did the evacuation at a Kabul national airport, which is in the middle of a dense urban area, and tragically resulted in 13 servicemen and women being murdered because of those decisions.
00:03:26.640 And the incompetence and the ideology, and understand it was both.
00:03:30.820 It was incompetence to be sure.
00:03:33.020 But it was also ideology that they refused to recognize.
00:03:36.040 This is an administration that refused to recognize radical Islamic terrorism exists.
00:03:41.740 And so we saw the images of planes taking off in Kabul with people clinging to the tires and trying to get into the wheel wells, the panic, the terror, the chaos, the death.
00:03:52.980 And politically, the Biden administration, that was the turning point.
00:03:56.240 And after that, they began shipping in thousands and tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands of Afghans.
00:04:03.580 And because ideologically they don't acknowledge radical Islamic terrorism as a threat, they didn't vet them.
00:04:09.320 They just said, hey, the more people we bring into this country who hate America, the more people are going to vote Democrat.
00:04:17.380 That's the only justification.
00:04:18.440 It's like ignorance and ideology plus a long-term political objective.
00:04:23.700 And we've seen it with the Somali invasion in Minnesota and the tragedies that are unfolding there.
00:04:30.000 We've seen it with the radicalization of places like Dearborn, Michigan.
00:04:33.580 And we've seen it with the Afghans.
00:04:35.220 And this is something I have been screaming from the ramparts and fighting from day one.
00:04:39.980 And what happened in D.C. is infuriating.
00:04:42.320 And those two National Guardsmen did not need to be shot.
00:04:46.060 And this is the result of idiotic policies from the Biden-Harris administration.
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00:06:59.160 All right, so Senator, let's go back to what we were talking about before, and let's really do a reset of the warnings.
00:07:08.240 The fact that the Biden administration was warned about this turning into what it is now, it's costing people their lives.
00:07:16.420 And there were quite a few that listened to the show that knew we were sounding the alarm, not because we wanted to be right,
00:07:23.720 but because this was a national security issue, and we saw it happening before our very eyes.
00:07:28.480 No, that's exactly right.
00:07:30.000 We're going to put up, for those of you who are watching the podcast on YouTube, we're going to put up a tweet that I sent out in August of 2021.
00:07:38.500 And I'll read you the tweet.
00:07:40.560 It says, touring the Donna Anna camp at Fort Bliss this morning, where Biden administration plans to house 10,000 Afghan refugees.
00:07:50.240 We should rescue Afghans who've assisted the U.S. military, but they should go to a neutral and safe third country.
00:08:00.560 They should not come to the U.S. without a full security vetting.
00:08:04.760 So, look, there were Afghans during the week.
00:08:07.220 Wait, wait, wait.
00:08:07.500 What was the date of that?
00:08:08.220 I want to make sure people understand how much we knew this was going to be a problem.
00:08:11.880 Okay, so it was August 27th, 2021.
00:08:15.920 And by the way, I also have a picture, so I'm in a Black Hawk helicopter touring the tent facility.
00:08:22.280 They literally built a gigantic tent city on Fort Bliss.
00:08:26.460 Fort Bliss is in El Paso, Texas.
00:08:28.940 It is a massive military base, and they built a tent city to house 10,000 Afghans.
00:08:34.460 Now, there was very little security.
00:08:37.620 They didn't know who was coming in.
00:08:38.960 They didn't know how they would leave.
00:08:40.400 They didn't know if they could leave.
00:08:41.620 If they were terrorists, they could literally hail an Uber, leave, and go wherever they wanted.
00:08:45.800 It was insanity.
00:08:48.100 And listen, during the war in Afghanistan, there were Afghans who made courageous decisions to help the U.S. government.
00:08:57.060 And I think it's wrong and immoral to just leave them to be murdered by the Taliban.
00:09:00.600 So I think we had an obligation to do something.
00:09:02.960 But there are a lot of options short of bringing them to America.
00:09:06.160 There are a whole bunch of Muslim countries in the Middle East where they would not pose the same terror threat that they pose here.
00:09:13.820 And a perfectly reasonable approach would be we're going to set up refugee camps with our allies throughout the Middle East, move those refugees there.
00:09:26.520 And for those that pass a vigorous screening test, it is possible some of them might come to the United States, but only after we were absolutely certain that there was not a risk of a terror attack like we saw.
00:09:39.680 By the way, you and I talked about this.
00:09:41.480 I knew several people that worked, that fought for our country in Afghanistan.
00:09:45.360 And they said their most frustrating aspect of the pullout was the U.S. was almost like they were playing a numbers game.
00:09:53.080 Well, we got out 5,000 or 10,000 or 20,000.
00:09:56.440 And they said their interpreters were being hunted down.
00:10:00.620 People that helped American soldiers were being hunted down.
00:10:04.100 They weren't actually pulling out the people that deserved to be pulled out.
00:10:07.960 It was just a numbers game after the disaster to try to make it go away.
00:10:12.420 No, that's exactly right.
00:10:14.300 They were both over-inclusive and under-inclusive.
00:10:17.440 In other words, they were missing people who really had been allies of the United States because there was no serious process to identify who would risk their lives, who was at real danger of persecution and murder.
00:10:29.480 And they were also just letting people, waving people in.
00:10:32.480 I want you to listen to this cross-examination that I did of Tony Blinken, then the Secretary of State, at the time.
00:10:41.180 Give a listen on this topic.
00:10:42.620 But I want to ask you flat out, did the State Department give the Taliban a list or multiple lists of Americans and or Afghans that we wanted out?
00:10:51.900 Those reports and the idea that we would do anything to endanger our citizens or anyone else at a time when we were trying to save their lives is flat out wrong.
00:11:01.220 So just like a yes or no, did you give them the list?
00:11:03.860 Let me be very clear, Senator, if I may, please.
00:11:06.520 Thank you.
00:11:09.120 In limited instances where we were seeking to get a bus or a group of people through a checkpoint, we gave a manifest to the people at the checkpoint to demonstrate that those people were expected to hit one.
00:11:23.100 Roughly how many names were on the list you gave?
00:11:25.600 It doesn't matter because they all—
00:11:27.340 Dozens, hundreds, thousands.
00:11:28.860 Give us some order of magnitude.
00:11:30.000 This happened in a handful of situations where—
00:11:32.540 Dozens?
00:11:33.100 So is it your testimony it wasn't hundreds?
00:11:34.980 I want to understand, did you give them thousands of names?
00:11:37.280 No, we did not.
00:11:38.500 Okay, hundreds?
00:11:39.740 I'm not going to put a number on it, but it was, again—
00:11:42.060 Why not?
00:11:42.520 This is a hearing to discover how many names and how many of those individuals you gave the Taliban the name to have been targeted for torture or murder.
00:11:50.460 Senator, by definition, these were in limited instances with a bus or a group of people to get them through a checkpoint.
00:11:57.500 They got through the checkpoint.
00:11:58.460 So not only did you fail to evacuate Americans and green card holders who were there, but you also brought in tens of thousands of Afghans who had wholly inadequate vetting, bringing many of them to the United States.
00:12:14.620 And one of the things that has done is that has brought in a humanitarian crisis to America.
00:12:21.580 Child marriage and domestic abuse, tragically, are widespread in Afghanistan.
00:12:26.480 According to the World Health Organization, more than half of the women in Afghanistan are married as child brides, and 90 percent of women are subject to domestic abuse.
00:12:36.300 Ninety percent.
00:12:37.300 Ninety percent.
00:12:38.300 On August 27th, according to public reports, you distributed internal documentation highlighting numerous instances in intake centers of sexual abuse in which much older, grown Afghan males appeared with children, young children, claimed they were their brides, claimed they were their wives.
00:13:00.300 And the document said the State Department urgently requested guidance.
00:13:05.300 That was your word, urgently.
00:13:07.300 Subsequently, the Department of Homeland Security said that it showed the desperation of families that they were willing to give little girls to grown men to be subject to sexual abuse and child wives.
00:13:19.300 My question is as follows.
00:13:22.300 Did you receive that urgent guidance?
00:13:23.300 How many children have been subject to sexual abuse?
00:13:26.300 What have you done to rescue young children from illegal and abusive relationships after being brought to America by the State Department?
00:13:36.300 Across the entire government, everyone involved in the evacuation effort, whether it's at a transit point in one of the countries that we negotiated with,
00:13:46.300 whether it's here in the United States at Dulles or Philadelphia or the military bases.
00:13:52.300 We have all of our officers at extreme vigilance to look for and to deal with any cases or concerns that arise.
00:14:04.300 Did you receive the urgent guidance and how many child vides have you seen?
00:14:07.300 I don't know the specific guidance you're referring to.
00:14:09.300 I'm happy to look to look at it.
00:14:11.300 So is there not urgency to discover if children are being abused?
00:14:14.300 Absolutely.
00:14:15.300 Time of the senator has expired.
00:14:17.300 We could detect and deal with any cases.
00:14:20.300 And there have been, to my knowledge, a limited number of cases where we have separated people because we were concerned.
00:14:26.300 The cases I'm aware of, a handful.
00:14:28.300 I think it's a really important point here, Senator, that we are now dealing with the reality of this situation.
00:14:35.300 And that is, this was more than just a national security threat.
00:14:40.300 This was a threat to so many Americans.
00:14:43.300 It's not just terrorism.
00:14:45.300 It's also what you just described there.
00:14:47.300 Yeah.
00:14:48.300 And look, this is related.
00:14:50.300 We have covered on Verdict before the incredible epidemic of child rapes from Pakistanis in the United Kingdom and the United Kingdom's turning a blind eye to this pattern, this massive challenge of young children, young girls being raped.
00:15:08.300 Tragically, in Afghanistan, that is also a very real problem.
00:15:13.300 The statistics on child brides are horrifying.
00:15:15.300 Ninety percent of women reported to have been subject to domestic abuse.
00:15:19.300 And understand, when the Taliban was taking over in Afghanistan, there were families that were desperate.
00:15:24.300 And so they would have a little girl, a seven, eight, nine-year-old girl that they would give to a grown man who was getting on a plane and say, here, take her as your wife to get her out of here.
00:15:33.300 And that little girl would then be raped for the rest of her life.
00:15:38.300 And the Biden State Department, they knew it was going on, but they didn't act to stop it.
00:15:45.300 And understand, this is ideology at play.
00:15:48.300 Everyone, not everyone, many of those who manned the Biden administration were alums of the Obama administration.
00:15:55.300 Under the Obama administration, I chaired a hearing because the Obama White House had sent out a written guidance to the Department of Homeland Security to purge, and they used the word purge, any reference to radical Islam or the Muslim Brotherhood or jihad.
00:16:12.300 Yeah.
00:16:13.300 And as a result, DHS either edited or deleted more than 800 of their records, erasing references to radical Islam, Muslim Brotherhood jihad.
00:16:23.300 And you know what?
00:16:24.300 And then miraculously later on, when you had a terror attack, they'd say, well, we have no record that this is connected to radical Islam.
00:16:30.300 It's like, well, because you had a purge and you deleted all the records.
00:16:34.300 Ideologically, those same left-wing ideologues that were in the Obama administration, they went forward to the Biden administration.
00:16:41.300 And so it's a reason why, if they've got people who are American allies, you heard Tony Blinken say, oh, yeah, well, we would give lists of them to the Taliban.
00:16:48.300 What could possibly be wrong?
00:16:50.300 Yeah.
00:16:51.300 And it's a fundamental misunderstanding.
00:16:53.300 It's also, bizarrely, look, Democrats claim they care about women's rights.
00:16:57.860 Well, it turns out that is not true when it's dealing with women or girls being raped by radical Islamists.
00:17:03.920 That, for them, in their Marxist hierarchy of oppression, being Palestinian, being Taliban, being ISIS, is much more oppressed than being women.
00:17:16.480 So women's rights go out the window in the leftist hierarchy.
00:17:21.240 But it's not just the child brides and the humanitarian victims from Afghanistan.
00:17:26.240 It is the very real risk of terror attacks here.
00:17:29.860 I want to play this podcast, Verdict, in September of 2021.
00:17:34.940 Here's what we were covering on Verdict in September 21.
00:17:38.440 Give a listen.
00:17:39.440 So everyone assumes the camps where the evacuees are taken are secure facilities.
00:17:45.540 Processed.
00:17:46.420 They're wide open and they are free to go anywhere they want.
00:17:49.880 And the Biden administration apparently doesn't care if these are adult men with little girls who they are sexually assaulting.
00:17:57.180 The vetting is so half-assed that there is a very real risk that if even one or two jihadis are in the mix, that we could see a suicide bomb like we saw in Afghanistan, but in an American mall or restaurant.
00:18:13.060 If they're letting people hop on these planes who have been convicted of crimes in the United States, surely the vetting is not top-notch.
00:18:20.660 And it's not as though they're only going to Fort Bliss.
00:18:23.440 They're going all around the country.
00:18:24.980 By the way, it's spot on.
00:18:27.420 They're going all around the country.
00:18:29.260 Fast forward to literally what we're dealing with now in this administration where they're like, well, okay, yeah, we had this attack.
00:18:36.160 And, oh, there's another guy that was talking about wanting to do another attack.
00:18:39.500 But, hey, at least we can somehow Jedi mind trick you into believing that somehow this is Donald Trump's fault.
00:18:45.180 Because that's what the media did at first.
00:18:46.720 And I think you've got to connect these dots here, Senator.
00:18:48.600 The media is trying to say that these National Guardsmen that got shot, one of them has died as the time we are doing this.
00:18:57.200 It happened.
00:18:58.020 They're trying to say because of Donald Trump rewriting the history and the warnings going back to, as we just played there, from September of 2021 on this exact thing happening in reality.
00:19:08.260 Yeah, at the same time, I wrote an op-ed in Fox News where I said, unfortunately, I believe we will see American blood spilled because of these foolish mistakes.
00:19:17.700 And I went on to say the truth is that the Taliban doesn't want to be welcomed into the community of civilized nations.
00:19:24.120 They are vicious terrorists who want to kill us.
00:19:27.020 Unfortunately, because of the catastrophic mistakes the Biden administration made in Afghanistan, we are much more at risk for deadly attacks by the Taliban or al-Qaeda, which Pentagon officials estimate could regroup in Afghanistan in the next year or two.
00:19:42.260 It's a disgrace.
00:19:43.600 And the fault lies directly with President Joe Biden and his administration.
00:19:47.980 This was obvious at the time.
00:19:50.200 And look, you heard on that clip in September 21, I'm talking about seeing the Donna Anna tent facility.
00:19:58.480 When I showed up there, I was like, well, are there any fences around it?
00:20:01.720 No.
00:20:02.860 Is there any barrier?
00:20:03.980 They're like, no, no, this is not a prison facility.
00:20:05.940 And it was a one-star general who was taking me around in the helicopter.
00:20:09.420 And I'm like, well, you know, what happens?
00:20:12.400 You're saying anyone can leave?
00:20:13.760 He's like, yeah, they're not detained.
00:20:15.520 We're just offering them housing.
00:20:16.960 Think of this like an apartment complex.
00:20:18.280 They can stay here if they want, or if they want to go somewhere else.
00:20:22.900 They can go.
00:20:23.440 If they want to disappear.
00:20:23.940 They can go somewhere else.
00:20:24.440 They can disappear.
00:20:25.860 Yeah.
00:20:26.140 And I asked the army, are y'all doing any vetting here?
00:20:28.440 They said, no, no, no.
00:20:29.120 The State Department does that in Afghanistan.
00:20:30.900 So it's all done before they get there.
00:20:33.260 So they got 10,000 people there.
00:20:35.060 And who knows where they went?
00:20:37.260 They don't keep a record of them.
00:20:38.740 They don't ask, where do you go?
00:20:40.960 I mean, that's part of the infuriating problem that the Biden administration invited into
00:20:48.660 this country.
00:20:50.440 Islamists, terrorists who explicitly want to murder us.
00:20:54.120 And by the way, you know what is unbelievable is the shooting in D.C.
00:21:01.380 was one of two Afghans who were arrested this week for threatening violence.
00:21:08.920 Another one happened in Texas.
00:21:11.980 Here's one report from Breitbart.
00:21:14.040 An Afghan national admitted to the United States under President Biden's Operation Allies
00:21:19.160 Welcome Resettlement Program was arrested this week after posting a TikTok video in which
00:21:25.280 he appeared to be building a bomb and referenced Fort Worth as a target, according to the Department
00:21:31.500 of Homeland Security.
00:21:32.940 Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin reported the arrest of Mohamed
00:21:37.460 Dawoud Alokaze, saying he allegedly posted a video on TikTok threatening to blow up a building
00:21:44.080 in Fort Worth, Texas with a bomb.
00:21:46.220 The Texas Department of Public Safety and the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force teamed up
00:21:51.560 to make the arrest on charges of making terroristic threats.
00:21:56.000 This is happening.
00:21:57.460 And by the way, it continues to be Alokaze is an Afghan national who was pardoned into the
00:22:03.700 United States by the Biden administration.
00:22:06.400 His arrest came one day prior to the vicious attack on two West Virginia National Guard soldiers
00:22:11.260 in Washington, D.C. by another Afghan national.
00:22:14.340 Now, this pattern, when you let people in, you don't vet them.
00:22:19.680 This violence and this terrorism is predictable.
00:22:23.340 And you had a combination of, A, for four years, an open southern border.
00:22:27.180 So any Hamas or Hezbollah or other terrorists could come in through the southern border.
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00:23:43.400 You combined what we're witnessing now with what you just mentioned, Senator, at the southern border.
00:23:49.180 We knew for a fact that people on the terrorist watch list were coming across our southern border, the same border,
00:23:57.040 that when Texas tried to secure it, the federal government said,
00:23:59.520 I don't know, we're going to use forklifts to raise up the barbed wire to let more people in.
00:24:03.220 We have that on video.
00:24:04.140 We talked about that on verdict.
00:24:05.880 They knew that people were getting on the terrorist watch list, people that wanted to kill Americans.
00:24:10.580 They knew there was a real threat of sleeper cells in this country coming from multiple places around the world.
00:24:16.040 And there still is.
00:24:17.380 Al-Shabaab, exactly, still is.
00:24:19.100 And you combine that with this and you sit there and you go, basically, they said, look, we know people are going to die,
00:24:25.480 but we want an open border.
00:24:26.820 We know terrorists are coming in.
00:24:28.240 We know they're on the watch list.
00:24:29.380 We know we're catching some of them.
00:24:30.640 There's a lot of gotaways that we don't catch.
00:24:32.580 This is just the cost of doing business.
00:24:34.460 There will be human carnage of American citizens, abusive children, the rape of children, the sex trafficking of children.
00:24:40.540 There will be murderers and all sorts of people in this country.
00:24:44.720 We know that.
00:24:46.040 It's worth it to flood America with illegal immigrants.
00:24:49.100 That was a calculated decision they made.
00:24:52.580 It was, and the two occurred simultaneously.
00:24:55.500 So on the one hand, they're opening the southern border and letting anyone come in.
00:25:00.340 But on the other hand, they're affirmatively flying tens of thousands of Afghans.
00:25:05.800 And by the way, we don't have any firm numbers in terms of how many they brought in.
00:25:08.680 In terms of vetting, you know, you don't have anyone from the Biden administration saying,
00:25:13.780 oh, yeah, we thoroughly vetted this guy before we brought him here,
00:25:16.980 because their view was there was nothing to vet.
00:25:20.940 If they're bringing a 50-year-old dude with an 8-year-old girl that he says is his wife,
00:25:26.800 that shows you how utterly incompetent the vetting is, that they just didn't care.
00:25:31.860 Ideologically, they believed, well, their culture, apparently it's okay to rape little girls.
00:25:36.520 And so they certainly were not asking, engaging in the serious vetting.
00:25:42.440 And it's difficult.
00:25:43.240 Look, one of the problems with vetting a place like Afghanistan is there are limited records.
00:25:47.800 And so that's not an easy task.
00:25:49.520 In my view, unless you can conclusively determine that this person is not a terror threat,
00:25:54.080 we should not be bringing him to America.
00:25:56.440 And so, but the Biden administration, I don't believe, was even trying to vet them in any serious way.
00:26:04.160 They were just bringing in numbers because this was all about politics rather than the substance of keeping America safe.
00:26:12.080 Yeah, Senator, there's also, let's go back in time and just remind people of what happened in this country last year.
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00:28:16.460 All right, Senator, I want to go back to a little over a year ago, and let's just remind people of the Democratic Party and also how we got to the point that we're at right now.
00:28:25.420 Well, this just shows the overlap we were talking about before, that ideologically today's Democrat Party refuses to acknowledge the threat of radical Islamic terrorism, refuses to acknowledge radical Islam, and that it is fundamentally anti-American.
00:28:39.740 And so in April of 24, there were protesters in Dearborn, Michigan, and it was the International Al-Quds Day rally where they began chanting death to America.
00:28:53.020 And when that happened, so Dearborn, Michigan is in Rashida Tlaib's district.
00:28:58.240 She is the member of Congress that represents Dearborn, Michigan.
00:29:01.480 You have a rally inter-district chanting death to America, and Fox News quite reasonably came and asked her if she would condemn that.
00:29:09.260 Give a watch and give a listen to how she responded.
00:29:15.700 Not a great look.
00:29:22.960 The mayor condemned it.
00:29:24.300 The White House condemned it.
00:29:25.720 But what about Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib?
00:29:29.200 She repped Dearborn.
00:29:30.240 Is she okay with her constituents chanting death to America?
00:29:35.160 Fox Business correspondent Hillary Vaughn asked her.
00:29:38.060 Watch.
00:29:39.520 Congresswoman Tlaib.
00:29:40.740 I don't talk to Fox News.
00:29:42.960 At a rally in your district, people were chanting death to America.
00:29:46.680 Do you condemn?
00:29:47.580 I do not talk to Fox News.
00:29:49.280 But do you condemn chants of death to America?
00:29:51.860 I don't talk to people that use racist tropes.
00:29:56.020 Why can't you just say whether or not you condemn people chanting death to America?
00:29:59.620 Why are you afraid to talk to Fox?
00:30:01.540 Fox News is not, not, listen, using racist tropes towards my community is what Fox News is about.
00:30:09.560 And I don't talk to Fox News.
00:30:10.680 Is death to America racist?
00:30:13.920 Is chanting death to America racist?
00:30:16.280 I'm talking about your guys' racist tropes.
00:30:17.780 You know, you guys are, you guys know exactly what you do.
00:30:20.960 I know you're Islamophobic, but you guys got to go deal with it on your own self.
00:30:24.720 You're not going to use me.
00:30:26.340 All right, Senator, you go back to that.
00:30:28.260 And it's just one of those moments where the warning signs are there.
00:30:33.520 We tell you that these warning signs are there.
00:30:37.600 And then it happens, and I hate it that it happens, but it's so predictable now.
00:30:43.640 You know, it reminds me when Obama was president, John Kerry was secretary of state.
00:30:48.280 There was an editorial cartoon, and it had the Ayatollah in Iran going, death to America!
00:30:53.100 And it had John Kerry saying, well, can we meet you halfway?
00:30:57.440 Yeah.
00:30:58.700 That's the ideological incoherence.
00:31:01.580 Look, when you walk down the halls of Congress, and you've been there with me, Ben, reporters stop you all the time.
00:31:08.900 By the way, I answer questions from Fox News.
00:31:10.780 I answer questions from CNN.
00:31:12.060 I answer questions from New York Times.
00:31:13.280 I answer questions from every lefty outlet just walking along.
00:31:16.960 Because if you know what you believe, I got to say, that's not a gotcha question.
00:31:21.620 It's not a difficult question.
00:31:23.660 Do you support death to America?
00:31:26.500 If you are a member of the United States Congress, the Congress of the United States of America,
00:31:31.980 one would think it ought to be easy to say, yeah, of course, death to America is wrong.
00:31:35.680 I'm against that.
00:31:37.100 That should not be difficult for anyone.
00:31:40.980 It speaks volumes that Rashida Tlaib was unwilling to even condemn.
00:31:46.560 Chance of death to America in her own congressional district.
00:31:50.700 That shows just how dangerous the ideological rot is.
00:31:54.420 And tragically, we saw the very real consequences of that ideological rot in letting unvetted Afghan immigrants into this country,
00:32:05.480 one of whom just murdered one D.C. National Guardsman and may have murdered a second.
00:32:09.960 We pray that he survives.
00:32:11.940 But at this point, our prayers are with him because we don't know if he's going to survive the horrific attack.
00:32:16.920 Yeah, it's truly incredible.
00:32:18.600 We're going to keep you updated on this subject.
00:32:20.440 I can promise you, don't forget, we do the show Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.
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00:32:33.360 And Senator and I will see you back here on Wednesday morning.
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