Verdict with Ted Cruz - The Angry, Bitter, Yelling 'GET-OFF-MY-LAWN' SOTU Speech

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00:00:05.620 Welcome, it is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.580 Senator, I feel like the entire show tonight we should just scream at one another

00:00:13.640 and yell in honor of the State of the Union that you just walked out of.

00:00:17.240 Are your ears okay?

00:00:19.220 Well, they're not. I have a little bit of trauma.

00:00:22.880 It is 12.17 in the morning,

00:00:25.120 and I just spent a little bit over an hour sitting on the floor of the house

00:00:29.620 being yelled at by a deranged old man. 0.65

00:00:33.420 It was an experience, and I'll tell you what, we're going to talk about that.

00:00:37.900 We're going to break down everything that happened,

00:00:39.660 but we also have a very special feature tonight,

00:00:44.580 and it is a happy twist of fate because I was not the only person

00:00:49.320 in the chamber listening to that angry old man screaming,

00:00:54.360 but an unemployed podcaster and radio host and former marquee actor and book author

00:01:05.400 turned out that he was desperately in need of some liquor and cigars

00:01:11.200 and so sent me a text earlier tonight,

00:01:14.000 and so I'm actually quite proud to welcome back to Verdict

00:01:18.820 my original co-host and my dear friend Michael Knowles.

00:01:23.720 Michael, welcome. Welcome back.

00:01:25.600 Senator, it's good to be back.

00:01:27.060 Ben, it's good to be back, but you tricked me.

00:01:29.800 You tricked me because I, look, you're right.

00:01:32.360 What do I do?

00:01:33.040 I don't do Verdict anymore, so I had a lot of time on my hands.

00:01:36.460 I sauntered down to DC.

00:01:37.840 I said, I got nothing better to do than listen to this old man yell at me

00:01:40.340 for three hours or however long it took at the State of the Union,

00:01:43.700 and I said, but you know what will make this night totally redeemed

00:01:46.920 is I will text my friend, Senator Cruz, and we'll have a nice cigar,

00:01:51.240 and he said, absolutely, Michael.

00:01:52.880 Come on over and we'll have cigars right after we finish the podcast,

00:01:56.160 and I said, all right, you got me.

00:01:57.560 I already agreed. Okay, I'm in.

00:01:59.440 Yeah, and this is how we welcome you back.

00:02:02.680 By the way, you went to this thing tonight as well,

00:02:06.540 which was really just an hysterical State of the Union.

00:02:10.120 If you're ever going to go to the State of the Union,

00:02:11.920 there's nothing better than saying you can remember for the rest of your life,

00:02:14.960 I was at the one that lasted an hour and eight minutes

00:02:17.340 where it looked like Joe Biden might have been on some sort of drug

00:02:20.560 and was screaming and talking very fast for at least the first 45 minutes of the speech.

00:02:25.240 Then he went back to old Joe's stature and slowed it back down a little bit

00:02:29.540 so you can tell your kids and grandkids about that. 0.99

00:02:31.600 Wait a second, damn it. 0.98

00:02:33.080 Was the time actually an hour and eight minutes? 0.99

00:02:35.500 It was, but it was because he talked so fast.

00:02:37.560 There's a problem with that,

00:02:39.440 which is Roger Marshall sent a text to a bunch of us with all sorts of wagers

00:02:43.260 and one of them was an over-under on the length 0.98

00:02:46.060 and his over-under was 70 minutes and I took the over, damn it,

00:02:49.700 and so I was two minutes off. 0.93

00:02:51.120 You took the over?

00:02:51.760 I was just up there in the peanut gallery,

00:02:55.420 but I bet, I knew he couldn't go 30 or even under 40

00:03:00.340 because it would be a national news story, Biden can't make it.

00:03:03.120 So I thought he had to go minimum 45,

00:03:05.600 but I felt he couldn't go more than a minute over that.

00:03:08.260 So I had it at 46 and he totally blew me out of the water.

00:03:12.880 Say what you will, it was a horrific speech,

00:03:14.880 but it went a long time and he yelled the entire time.

00:03:18.560 I said 55 minutes, that was what I thought.

00:03:21.160 I thought it'd be barely under an hour, but he was late.

00:03:24.640 So, you know, I guess that maybe got him a little bit more jacked up as he was late.

00:03:28.360 And is it true that he was late?

00:03:29.760 Did either of you guys see the protesters that apparently they stopped the streets,

00:03:33.480 all the pro-Palestinian protesters,

00:03:35.020 and that's part of the reason why he was late.

00:03:36.120 Is that true?

00:03:37.100 I have no idea.

00:03:38.300 I know that's what people were saying, but it was strange.

00:03:41.360 I've never seen a State of the Union where, like,

00:03:43.460 the president shows up 30 minutes late.

00:03:45.040 Yeah, I did not see protesters really.

00:03:48.380 I mean, I guess I was in the Capitol complex relatively early,

00:03:52.620 but I saw a handful of pro-Ukraine protesters.

00:03:55.180 And when I say a handful, I mean like half a dozen,

00:03:57.520 and maybe some of the pro-Palestine, but, you know.

00:04:00.340 There were none that I saw at the Capitol.

00:04:01.780 Maybe there were at the White House.

00:04:03.260 Yeah.

00:04:03.520 But there are none over at the Capitol that I saw.

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00:05:45.320 Senator, I want to start with the big shock for me was how he started the State of the Union of the United States of America dealing with we need your money, and I'm going to yell at you about it, and you better give me the money because otherwise if you don't, Ukraine is going to fall, and the rest of Europe is going to fall, and Russia is going to take over everything.

00:06:07.200 That was really the start of the State of the Union because that's not the number one issue on the minds of Americans right now.

00:06:13.280 Yeah, listen, the whole thing was bizarre.

00:06:16.200 I've been to 12 State of the Unions.

00:06:18.780 This was the 12th one.

00:06:20.620 This was by far the worst I've ever seen and the strangest I've ever seen.

00:06:28.440 So this was a campaign speech, but it was an exceptionally bad campaign speech.

00:06:33.920 So Biden was angry.

00:06:35.920 He was bitter.

00:06:37.240 He was screaming.

00:06:38.920 He was extreme, and he was completely out of touch.

00:06:43.260 The entire speech reminded me of a grumpy old man standing on his front porch screaming at the kids, get off my front lawn!

00:06:51.500 It was very odd, and I wanted your perspective on it because you've been to so many of these now, and I couldn't tell.

00:06:59.580 Maybe it's just my first one, and I didn't know.

00:07:02.020 It did seem much angrier, but there was something hollow about it.

00:07:06.420 As if he thought, to prove that I'm alive, I have to be yelling the whole time.

00:07:12.260 But what was so odd was he was yelling and slurring his words, and the cadence was off.

00:07:17.940 It just seemed like, I don't know, a bad theatrical performance or something.

00:07:24.680 It is also interesting in that it reveals the political strategy of the political White House for this election, which is there were zero nods to the middle.

00:07:36.400 This speech said, Republicans across America, I don't want your votes.

00:07:41.700 Independents across America, I don't want your votes. 1.00

00:07:44.480 This was an effort to woo the squad.

00:07:48.200 This was an effort to appeal to bring back on the reservation Elizabeth Warren, and, you know, look, she's spent a lot of time on reservations.

00:07:56.440 She knows it well.

00:07:57.580 You know, Bernie Sanders, AOC, and I don't know if they're scared with the whole Hamas thing that they've lost the crazy left, but, look, I can tell you one of the things experiencing it. 0.92

00:08:08.360 Like, I enjoy State of the Unions.

00:08:09.760 They're fun, the pageantry, it feels like, you know, it's a moment of American history, and, frankly, it's just pretty friggin' wild to be, like, sitting on the floor listening to it.

00:08:19.520 I mean, it's a neat thing.

00:08:21.120 Almost always, and this is true whether you have – I've been there for Obama doing it, I've been there for Trump doing it, and I've been there for Biden doing it.

00:08:31.320 Almost always, you have multiple lines that are designed to get everyone on their feet, and it's a different experience.

00:08:36.820 If it's your own party, it's like being at a Jane Fonda aerobics session.

00:08:42.100 I mean, you're just up, down, up, down, up, down, every sentence you stand up, woo!

00:08:47.700 But any president has multiple lines that are designed to unify everyone, to bring Congress to their feet.

00:08:53.980 We're all standing together, and it was weird.

00:08:57.380 Look, I stand at the beginning and applaud, and I will always do that because I respect the office, even if I don't like the job Biden is doing.

00:09:03.720 I respect the office he's holding, but then I sat down, and for the next hour, almost all of us stayed sitting the whole time.

00:09:13.520 I do not recall any other speech that made so little effort to garner even a shred of support from the opposing party.

00:09:22.100 I couldn't figure out the calculus on that because I agree.

00:09:26.100 I think maybe – I think I stood up for the – we're going to bring our hostages back.

00:09:31.140 I mean, that was the one line.

00:09:32.020 I did stand up for that.

00:09:33.660 It was the hostages back.

00:09:34.820 And that was it.

00:09:35.440 I mean, otherwise, I was seated.

00:09:36.840 It made it a very easy night.

00:09:38.540 But I just couldn't understand the calculus.

00:09:40.240 If you're looking at the polls, the polls have been reliable, at least for the Republican primary.

00:09:44.940 Yeah.

00:09:45.600 And the polls are putting Trump up right now in seven out of seven swing states, and nationally, it looks like he's up five points.

00:09:51.580 It could change.

00:09:52.200 But if I'm Joe Biden, I don't need AOC and Ayanna Pressley.

00:09:57.240 They were on their feet.

00:09:58.080 They were cheering.

00:09:58.840 I don't need them right now.

00:10:00.380 I really need those Nikki Haley voters. 0.99

00:10:02.680 See, and I think what it was – when I was watching it, obviously, I was watching on TV, and I had a different perspective than you guys that were in the chamber.

00:10:09.340 But when Biden entered the House chamber and the Dems started chanting four more years, to me, what it came across as was, I've got to let the Democratic Party and machine know I'm not going anywhere.

00:10:24.920 You're not going to replace me at the convention.

00:10:28.020 I am the candidate.

00:10:29.300 The entire speech, watching again on TV, came across as 100% a partisan campaign speech, and it was like, if you think you're going to get rid of me, you're wrong.

00:10:42.660 You better get behind me.

00:10:44.520 He clearly was going to the left, and I think it's the left, meaning the Democratic elites, the Democratic higher-ups that are thinking, how the hell do we run this guy?

00:10:53.540 Can we get rid of him?

00:10:54.780 Can we bring somebody else in?

00:10:56.160 And it was like, I'm here tonight, and I'm not going anywhere.

00:10:58.720 Yeah, look, that's not crazy.

00:11:01.040 I will say, when the Dems began chanting four more years, that was weird, too.

00:11:07.680 I may be misremembering, but I don't remember that ever happening before.

00:11:11.860 No, but I think it's like the lady doth protest too much, in the sense that, truly, it's not even that I don't like the guy and I thought he gave a bad speech, but I thought four more years.

00:11:21.780 Who are you trying to convince here?

00:11:24.540 I don't think you could convince him of four more years.

00:11:26.920 So, seven more months.

00:11:29.060 Yeah.

00:11:29.740 Ten more minutes.

00:11:30.960 Just finish the speech, please.

00:11:32.380 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:11:33.240 I got 33 minutes to Dr. Say I can make it, right?

00:11:36.180 Right.

00:11:36.720 I mean...

00:11:37.880 No, it was a very partisan speech, and I want to get both of you guys' reaction to, I think, what was the most awkward moment of the night from a TV standpoint.

00:11:47.260 And that was when the president went directly after the Supreme Court justices that were sitting in front of him.

00:11:54.380 It did not play well, I think, to the American people.

00:11:57.700 Take a listen.

00:12:00.880 My predecessor came to office determined to see Roe v. Wade overturned.

00:12:05.300 He's the reason it was overturned, and he brags about it.

00:12:08.480 That was my applause, by the way.

00:12:09.760 Look at the chaos.

00:12:10.040 You heard that light applause, says me.

00:12:12.580 Join us tonight is Kate Cox, a wife and mother from Dallas. 0.88

00:12:17.240 She's become pregnant again and had a fetus of a fatal condition.

00:12:21.380 Her doctor told Kate that her own life and her ability to have children in the future were at risk if she didn't act.

00:12:30.600 Because Texas law banned her ability to act, Kate and her husband had to leave the state to get what she needed. 0.75

00:12:38.480 What her family got through should have never happened as well, but it's happening to too many others.

00:12:44.680 There are state laws banning the freedom to choose, criminalizing doctors, forcing survivors of rape and incest to leave their states to get the treatment they need.

00:12:54.020 Many of you in this chamber and my predecessor are promising to pass a national ban on reproductive freedom.

00:13:01.240 My God, what freedom else would you take away?

00:13:04.580 Look, it's a decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

00:13:08.140 The Supreme Court majority wrote the following, and with all due respect, justices,

00:13:13.180 women are not without electoral power. 0.99

00:13:16.900 Excuse me, electoral or political power.

00:13:19.800 You're about to realize just how much you've arrived at.

00:13:24.020 I mean, Senator, that was honestly one of the most shocking moments of any state of the union I've ever seen.

00:13:33.840 He looked straight down at them, and it came across that way on TV of you sitting beneath me.

00:13:40.080 I'm coming after all of you, including you liberals down there, and you better get your act.

00:13:46.080 I think a lot of it also is, in a weird way, the anger and the disdain he had when he was looking at them,

00:13:52.020 at least how it came across on TV, was part of the 9-0 decision, I think, for Donald Trump in Colorado this past week.

00:13:59.320 Yeah, look, it was a very strange moment, I will say, when he said, with all due respect,

00:14:03.900 a number of us, including me, laughed out loud at that, because it was like, with all due respect, F you.

00:14:09.500 Like, it was not, there was no respect, do or otherwise.

00:14:15.480 It was reminiscent, in some ways, of Barack Obama lecturing the court about Citizens United,

00:14:21.780 and Justice Alito famously mouthed, not true.

00:14:25.960 And actually, Justice Alito doesn't go to the State of the Union anymore because of that.

00:14:29.200 That was the last he went.

00:14:30.280 But the temperature on this was 300 degrees hotter.

00:14:37.020 Like, it makes Obama's words about Citizens United feel almost quaint and antiquated.

00:14:44.420 This was angry, it was bitter.

00:14:48.160 It was threatening.

00:14:48.840 And look, what's also weird about it, Biden almost never smiled.

00:14:54.140 Like, there was no effort to bring new voters into the fold.

00:15:01.300 And even, listen, when he's talking about abortion, when he's talking about Kate Cox,

00:15:06.120 Kate Cox's situation was tragic.

00:15:09.540 He doesn't tell her story with empathy.

00:15:13.520 He doesn't actually talk like a normal human being,

00:15:16.780 and the horror that any parent would have at finding out that you had a child with a fatal birth defect.

00:15:25.620 Instead, he just screams about it, which was a very strange way.

00:15:29.680 And it was the same, he had one volume, he had one tempo, he had one affect through the entire speech.

00:15:38.820 And by the way, he combined it all with massive dishonesty, where he's like,

00:15:43.820 and you Republicans want to ban abortion across the country.

00:15:47.840 Look, I am not aware of a single member of Congress that has a bill to ban abortion nationwide.

00:15:54.380 I'm not aware of a presidential candidate, actually, a Republican presidential candidate.

00:15:58.260 I mean, even to your point on dishonesty, Senator,

00:16:00.620 obviously part of the Cox story is, part of it is just quite tragic,

00:16:05.740 and there's absolutely no nuance in the Democrats' telling of it.

00:16:09.220 But part of it is dishonest.

00:16:10.760 When the Democrats say she was not permitted to have an abortion when her life was at risk,

00:16:17.100 that's just a lie.

00:16:18.340 There is no state in the country where if a woman's life is at risk,

00:16:21.660 she can't undergo the medical treatment, some of which would involve an abortion, to deal with that. 0.99

00:16:27.500 The Texas law is explicit, allowing an exception for a medical emergency.

00:16:31.920 But Biden would accept no nuance.

00:16:36.060 It was a Manichaean world where he was the self-righteous avenger,

00:16:42.360 and everyone, the Supreme Court, every Republican on Earth,

00:16:46.260 everyone who disagrees with his view were the evildoers to be vanquished.

00:16:51.280 It was very strange, the focus on that.

00:16:53.660 I mean, for a while, when I saw the guest list come out,

00:16:56.000 I said, am I the only guest at the State of the Union who isn't invited to promote abortion? 1.00

00:17:00.820 I thought, I understand the Democrats think they can really lean on that,

00:17:03.800 so much so that they're going to explicitly attack the Supreme Court during the State of the Union.

00:17:08.320 But is that, that's really the issue that Joe Biden wants to run on?

00:17:12.940 It is front and center and then screaming about Ukraine.

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00:17:47.120 Ukraine was the top, but there was even weird other moments in there, Senator, that were also, I would say, bizarre.

00:17:58.000 Were you guys taken aback in the room when he said the vaccine that saved us from COVID are now being used to beat cancer?

00:18:06.000 And everybody that was watching it, I think, at home was like, what in the world is the president talking about?

00:18:11.140 Investing in all America, in all Americans, to make sure everyone has a fair shot.

00:18:17.500 We leave no one, no one behind.

00:18:20.480 The pandemic no longer controls our lives.

00:18:23.540 The vaccines that saved us from COVID are now being used to beat cancer, turning setback into comeback.

00:18:31.180 That's what America does. 1.00

00:18:33.500 That's what America does. 1.00

00:18:34.780 By the way, when he said that, even Kamala Harris's eyes got big and looked at him like, wait, what?

00:18:40.360 The vaccine saved us from COVID, and now it's beating cancer?

00:18:44.740 It was very odd.

00:18:45.960 By the way, Ben, I will say, if he was telling the truth, if Joe Biden actually had cured cancer, you'd think he would have told us about it by now.

00:18:55.980 You would have led with it before Ukraine, you would hope. 0.99

00:18:58.520 Like, wouldn't you just start, good evening, I want to start by saying we have cured cancer.

00:19:04.780 That's the end of my speech, thank you.

00:19:06.760 And the end of my campaign.

00:19:07.680 I think I won re-election, actually.

00:19:09.880 The COVID stuff, I guess, might have been the most dishonest part of the speech, because on some of it, he's just lying, right?

00:19:18.160 He's lying about abortion, he's lying about the border. 0.65

00:19:20.720 But on the COVID stuff, he uses partial truths to tell total lies, where he says, you know, we've cut the deficit by a trillion dollars.

00:19:31.320 Yeah, because the Democrats made us spend an insane amount of money justified by COVID.

00:19:35.980 So, yeah, sure.

00:19:37.020 Oh, we've created a bazillion new jobs.

00:19:39.380 Yeah, you shut down a ton of businesses on the premise of COVID.

00:19:43.040 So, yeah, like, technically, I guess that's true.

00:19:45.280 But it's just a false economic painting.

00:19:49.680 Well, and I also want to ask you guys, is anybody looking forward to getting on Air Force One to go to Moscow?

00:19:54.600 I'm going to get in trouble for saying that, but if you want to get an Air Force One, we can fly to Toronto, Berlin, Moscow.

00:20:00.980 I mean, excuse me.

00:20:02.120 Well, even Moscow, probably.

00:20:03.860 Even Moscow, probably.

00:20:05.420 That's how he saved it.

00:20:06.520 I'm like, well, if you're taking all the money from oligarchs in Moscow, I guess maybe we are going to fly an Air Force One to Moscow.

00:20:12.020 Why not?

00:20:12.660 Even though you're saying they're going to invade the world 15 minutes earlier and you better give all the money to Ukraine. 0.99

00:20:18.700 Look, it was out of touch.

00:20:22.840 It was out of touch with the issues that I think people are wrestling with on inflation.

00:20:29.100 I can tell you in Texas, I spend a lot of time listening to Texans.

00:20:32.800 When they pay their rent, you remember the candidate in New York, the rent is too damn high?

00:20:37.760 A good friend of mine, actually.

00:20:39.040 Well, okay, like mortgages, when a young couple goes out and they're going to buy their first house and they discover that a 7% mortgage rate is very different from a 2% mortgage rate and they can get half the house they used to be able to get.

00:20:55.900 When they go to the grocery store and suddenly there's an extra...

00:20:59.240 But he's going to give you $400, didn't he say that tonight in the State of the Union to help you buy that house that's up over $100,000 from last year?

00:21:05.280 It was even better than that when he said the big savings, forget about the price of groceries, there aren't enough chips in the bag of potato chips, but he says, don't worry, because I'm putting a cap.

00:21:16.400 The credit card late payments used to be $32 and I'm going to make it $8.

00:21:23.540 $24 in the pockets of every American.

00:21:26.680 Re-elect me in 2024.

00:21:27.940 It was over and over again, he had new things he was going to give away.

00:21:32.560 Look, the $400 to everyone, here, this will help you pay your mortgage, I'm just going to send you $400.

00:21:36.940 Mind you, your mortgage has gone up because we spent so much money and we drove inflation and drove it up, so we'll just pay you.

00:21:43.780 And our answer, the problem is we printed too much money and it caused inflation.

00:21:49.880 My answer is we're going to print even more money and that's going to help you deal with inflation.

00:21:55.720 And like, did anyone on the White House staff like take Econ 101?

00:22:02.620 Like, did they go for like one day?

00:22:04.740 Certainly not.

00:22:05.880 Under the White House staff, since the Obama years, they usually get MFAs in creative writing and somehow that's supposed to direct domestic and foreign policy.

00:22:14.600 By the way, I would say also, did you notice there was, not only was it angry and bitter and extreme, but there was also very little beautiful about it.

00:22:23.560 I mean, sometimes State of the Unions have some poetry to it.

00:22:27.580 I mean, there's, you think of Peggy Noonan writing for Ronald Reagan and there is, there are beautiful moments in the State of the Union and there were no beautiful moments tonight.

00:22:38.800 No.

00:22:38.980 And I think it's because he was running for re-election.

00:22:42.660 He was all about that.

00:22:43.640 I'm not going anywhere.

00:22:45.840 Even at the end of the speech, though, because I totally agree with you, Ben, he was, and I agree with you, Senator, you know, this is this rallying of the base.

00:22:54.000 Maybe it was just to shore up the Democrats because he feels that Gavin Newsom's lurking in the corner.

00:22:58.800 By the end, he started to lean in a little bit toward what could have been poetry, but it was so platitudinous.

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00:24:56.900 Senator, you did Hannity tonight, and there was one thing that Hannity said

00:25:01.900 that I thought was very interesting in his monologue.

00:25:04.560 He was talking about the obsession with the White House,

00:25:07.500 saying that the economy's strong and Bidenomics is working.

00:25:10.840 I want you to hear what he had to say.

00:25:12.540 For everyone that missed it, it's very interesting.

00:25:14.640 Let's start with his lies on the economy.

00:25:16.820 Take a look.

00:25:18.120 My inherited economy is on the brink.

00:25:20.800 Now our economy is literally the envy of the world.

00:25:23.640 15 million new jobs in just three years.

00:25:26.420 A record.

00:25:27.520 A record.

00:25:27.980 Wages keep going up.

00:25:29.460 Inflation keeps coming down.

00:25:31.480 Inflation has dropped from 9% to 3%, the lowest in the world, and tending lower.

00:25:41.200 The landing is and will be soft.

00:25:43.620 All right, here is the truth.

00:25:46.580 Here are the facts.

00:25:47.340 Since Biden took office, cumulative prices have risen over 17%.

00:25:51.980 Real hourly wages have only risen 13%.

00:25:55.860 60% of our fellow Americans, sadly, they are living paycheck to paycheck.

00:26:00.740 Now costs across the board, they are surging.

00:26:03.040 Groceries are eating up more of the American people's paychecks,

00:26:07.140 and they have in over 30 years.

00:26:08.740 In fact, according to a recent study, Americans now need to make $11,400 more

00:26:15.120 to afford the same quality of life that they did in 2021.

00:26:18.920 And his claims about job creation, another lie.

00:26:22.280 In reality, almost 10 million of those jobs are just, well, backfield jobs

00:26:27.180 or temporary jobs that were lost during the pandemic.

00:26:30.600 And as we know now, many of those other jobs were part-time jobs

00:26:34.380 going to many foreign-born workers that he's let into this country

00:26:37.480 unvetted illegally.

00:26:39.540 I mean, Senator, you hear that montage.

00:26:42.740 It's spot on.

00:26:44.660 But this goes back to how tone-deaf this White House seems to be. 1.00

00:26:48.520 It's the economy, stupid. 1.00

00:26:50.540 You walk out there, and the beginning of the State of the Union was, 1.00

00:26:54.740 I'm going to tell the American people you must give mass amounts of money 0.73

00:26:58.700 to Ukraine, or you're an evil person. 1.00

00:27:00.420 You better give me abortion on demand and allow me to kill more babies, 1.00

00:27:05.200 or you're a terrible person. 1.00

00:27:07.420 And on top of that, I'm going to attack the Supreme Court in front of me 0.98

00:27:11.500 and basically say they're illegitimate.

00:27:13.500 And then, after 40-something minutes, I might mention the number one issue

00:27:19.600 for many Americans, which is border security.

00:27:21.940 It took them 40-plus minutes to get to that.

00:27:24.620 Well, and before we turn to border security, which we obviously are going to talk about,

00:27:29.000 let's pause for a second on inflation.

00:27:32.280 And I'll say, number one, Hannity referenced the study that says it's over $11,000 a year

00:27:37.420 to live the same standard of living you had in 2021 just three years ago

00:27:41.840 before Joe Biden came to office.

00:27:43.800 That works out to nearly $1,000 more a month is what people are having to pay

00:27:50.140 just to tread water, just to stay where they were in 2021.

00:27:54.160 And I've got to say, the moment where Biden seemed most out of touch on this issue

00:27:59.500 was when he did his whole shrinkflation thing.

00:28:03.560 And it kind of felt like, you remember Andy Rooney, who'd be like,

00:28:06.820 you ever notice when you buy potato chips as many potato chips in the bag as they used to be?

00:28:14.380 Why is that?

00:28:15.420 It's a direct quote from the State of the Union. 0.81

00:28:16.960 Like, if you're trying not to seem like a crazy old man ranting, 0.98

00:28:24.120 maybe don't sound like a crazy old man ranting. 0.98

00:28:28.000 Yeah. 0.94

00:28:28.600 And on the other level, no kidding.

00:28:33.200 Yes, we're aware what shrinkflation is, and you caused it.

00:28:39.020 Like, there's no actual use of the cranium to say, well, what is causing those mean old

00:28:48.340 corporations to put fewer potato chips in the bag? 0.79

00:28:51.720 Do they just hate their customers and don't want them to eat potato chips?

00:28:56.580 Or are they dealing with inflation and it costs more and more and more,

00:29:00.860 and they're trying to find ways to fight the inflation that you caused by printing trillions

00:29:06.440 of dollars in money we didn't have?

00:29:08.040 There's no awareness of that.

00:29:09.760 There's just ranting, I don't like shrinkflation, so what are we going to do?

00:29:15.540 Pass Bob Casey's bill on shrinkflation.

00:29:18.480 And we're all looking at each other going, what the hell does Casey have?

00:29:22.360 Like, what does Casey have a law?

00:29:24.100 We're going to count the chips in your bag, and if you're below the chips,

00:29:27.600 Joe Biden gives you $400?

00:29:29.220 The Tostitos Protection Act from Casey.

00:29:32.160 You know, it reminded me of that meme of the guy who has the gun, and he turns around and

00:29:38.020 he shoots someone, and then he looks at the camera, he says, why did X, Y, and Z do that,

00:29:42.480 right?

00:29:42.620 And it blames anything else.

00:29:43.880 And it's Biden with the inflation.

00:29:45.820 He has all this massive spending.

00:29:48.100 And then he says, why did the Tostitos Company do that?

00:29:50.740 But if you had taken even Economics 101 in high school, you would say, look, the chip

00:29:57.760 company has always had an incentive to maximize profits.

00:30:01.180 The thing that has changed is not that all of a sudden the potato chip company wants to

00:30:05.240 make money.

00:30:05.860 Clearly something else in the economics.

00:30:07.600 What has changed here between the last eight years or so?

00:30:11.960 By the way, when the economy is booming, think what big mean corporations do.

00:30:17.120 They sell mega, mega size, even more chips, you know, the big gulp with enough to drink

00:30:23.700 to have you on caffeine for the next 13 weeks.

00:30:27.340 Like, that also is the profit motive if you're not dealing with crushing inflation and trying

00:30:33.040 to figure out a way to make things work.

00:30:34.720 Right.

00:30:34.920 All right.

00:30:35.220 I got to ask you guys about the heckling that happened.

00:30:38.800 There was one person that heckled tonight.

00:30:40.740 It's now being reported that that individual was a Gold Star father whose son, Lance Colonel

00:30:49.920 Kareem Nikouri, who was killed by a terrorist suicide bomber during Joe Biden's disastrous

00:30:56.720 withdrawal from Afghanistan.

00:30:59.080 I usually am not a big fan of heckling.

00:31:02.000 I don't think that's heckling.

00:31:03.360 Once I learned the backstory, that was an angry father who saw a president that was rewriting

00:31:07.420 history.

00:31:07.940 Yeah, look, we did not know the backstory when he yelled.

00:31:12.940 We could tell he was yelling something about a Marine company, but we couldn't tell the

00:31:18.040 details in that room.

00:31:19.260 Obviously, if his son lost his life, I wondered if it was one of the Marines who was killed

00:31:26.920 in Afghanistan, if that's what he was referring to.

00:31:29.860 And apparently it was.

00:31:31.100 Look, Joe Biden accepts no responsibility for anything.

00:31:35.800 And and instead, his White House tries to whitewash every foreign policy disaster as

00:31:41.500 an absolute success.

00:31:44.780 And and, you know, when it comes to the 13 servicemen and women who died in Afghanistan, that was

00:31:49.980 completely unnecessary.

00:31:50.920 It was Biden's fault.

00:31:53.080 By the way, one of the my favorite pods we ever did is is when we focused on the testimony

00:31:58.840 of the of the young Marine who was there in Afghanistan and had the suicide bomber, had

00:32:05.440 him identified and was prepared to take him out.

00:32:07.840 And the Biden White House wouldn't let him.

00:32:10.120 And he was prevented from doing so.

00:32:12.360 And those servicemen men and women were killed.

00:32:14.560 You know, I'm seeing a news report now.

00:32:17.020 I don't don't know if it's been verified or not, that the man who was yelling out about

00:32:22.400 his son in the Marines was arrested and charged with a misdemeanor for interrupting Biden.

00:32:28.300 And I didn't know it was a crime at all to interrupt the State of the Union.

00:32:32.360 If it is, I imagine not a court in the land would ever convict him, given the circumstances

00:32:37.180 of what he did.

00:32:37.900 Have you seen the D.C. district courts?

00:32:40.500 Well, fair enough.

00:32:41.360 I was going to say, you'll have a mugshot.

00:32:43.040 And yeah, trust me, they'll go after him all the way.

00:32:45.600 Right.

00:32:46.240 I forgot where we were broadcasting from right now.

00:32:49.040 It was putting you're in the swamp, brother.

00:32:51.660 You are in the swamp.

00:32:53.640 But putting that particular instance aside, it did seem to me that there was more heckling

00:32:59.360 than usual.

00:33:00.400 You've been to a dozen of these, Senator.

00:33:01.960 Yeah, look, I mean, there has been the Democrats were doing lots of the four more years.

00:33:07.900 Which was weird.

00:33:08.680 I don't recall.

00:33:09.480 I don't recall anyone doing that for for Obama.

00:33:13.120 I don't recall folks doing it for Trump.

00:33:16.180 I may not be remembering it, but if it happened, I don't remember it.

00:33:21.040 You know, I will say, look, in recent years, I have not liked there are some House Republicans

00:33:25.860 who heckle the president.

00:33:27.020 And I got to say, I really dislike that.

00:33:30.900 I disagree passionately with Joe Biden, but I respect the office of the presidency and

00:33:38.600 what it represents.

00:33:39.620 And so even if I disagree with him, I just think it's not like a gold star father is a different

00:33:46.580 circumstance.

00:33:47.080 But but for a member of Congress, I think heckling is is not not consistent with with the decorum

00:33:55.280 and respect that is owed not just the presidency.

00:33:58.420 By the way, did you notice what didn't happen at the beginning of the speech?

00:34:01.320 Did you notice the Speaker of the House did not rip the speech up into shreds?

00:34:06.400 And he didn't get to introduce him.

00:34:07.640 Did you notice that as well?

00:34:08.920 Usually you have him introduced.

00:34:10.600 He didn't do that.

00:34:11.320 The president just walked up there, went straight to the to the the podium and started talking.

00:34:15.480 And the entire moment where you're supposed to introduce him that comes to the Speaker

00:34:19.220 of the House never happened.

00:34:21.460 It was it was very odd.

00:34:24.900 And look, the heckling led to so I predicted before the speech that there were four words

00:34:32.820 that that Biden would not say.

00:34:34.440 Lakin Riley and Jeremy Caceres.

00:34:39.060 Now, as it so happened, he kind of sort of said Lakin Riley, but he almost tried to.

00:34:45.240 But he did so in response to heckling to someone calling out, say her name.

00:34:49.420 And there were many members of Congress wearing buttons and pins that said Lakin Riley, say

00:34:55.240 her name.

00:34:56.500 And he said the wrong name.

00:34:58.600 He said Lincoln Riley.

00:35:00.940 He was the head football coach at USC.

00:35:06.100 It and he had one of those buttons.

00:35:09.140 So I think I think one of the members of Congress had given it to him.

00:35:12.220 Yes, I don't know if it was Congressman Andy Ogles who actually invited me tonight or if

00:35:18.500 it was Marjorie Taylor Greene or what.

00:35:20.880 But there were a handful of the conservative congressmen who had it.

00:35:24.500 And what I heard from one of the members was that they handed it to the president.

00:35:29.160 He leaned in.

00:35:29.780 He said, oh, I like your button.

00:35:30.840 And but I don't think it was sarcastic.

00:35:33.460 I think he legitimately had no idea what was going on and what it represented.

00:35:37.240 Well, look, look, when the heckling happened, he responded and he did sort of try to say

00:35:43.500 her name, although he didn't get it right.

00:35:45.720 But then look what he said.

00:35:48.540 He said, you know, she was killed.

00:35:50.660 I'm sorry she was killed.

00:35:52.480 And and he expressed sympathy for the parents.

00:35:55.160 And I got to say, that may have been the moment that pissed me off the most.

00:36:00.980 Because, listen, so Lakin Riley's parents were were invited.

00:36:05.280 And actually, you know, they were invited and they decided not to come.

00:36:11.860 And I understand they are grieving the loss of their daughter, their home in Georgia.

00:36:16.760 And and the the Georgia House member who invited them left the seat vacant in honor of Lakin Riley.

00:36:25.420 And, you know, frankly, they don't want Joe Biden's empathy.

00:36:31.500 They don't want a Hallmark card from him.

00:36:33.880 They want their daughter back.

00:36:35.840 And and what Joe Biden didn't do is take responsibility for his direct culpability.

00:36:44.760 And let's walk through.

00:36:47.060 Lakin Riley never should have been killed.

00:36:49.660 The illegal immigrant who murdered her was caught.

00:36:52.540 He was apprehended in Texas, in El Paso.

00:36:55.280 He came illegally from Venezuela.

00:36:56.960 We had him.

00:36:58.000 And what should have happened is the Biden administration should have followed the law.

00:37:02.840 They should have put him on a plane and flown him back to Venezuela.

00:37:05.760 And if Joe Biden had done that, Lakin Riley would still be alive today.

00:37:09.480 But it wasn't just El Paso.

00:37:11.520 What's so so frustrating about this, a totally preventable tragedy is they could have gotten him in New York.

00:37:18.480 They did get him in New York.

00:37:19.640 He committed a crime in New York.

00:37:21.000 They let him go.

00:37:21.740 He was arrested for endangering a child.

00:37:25.380 That's right.

00:37:25.940 But New York City, again, run by Democrats, calls itself a sanctuary city.

00:37:29.900 And they let him go.

00:37:31.300 If Joe Biden had deported him, Lakin Riley would be alive.

00:37:34.080 If New York City had kept him in jail, Lakin Riley would be alive.

00:37:36.900 Forget about New York City.

00:37:38.200 He ends up in Athens, Georgia.

00:37:40.120 And he he steals from a store.

00:37:43.260 I forget which store it was.

00:37:44.380 The Georgia authorities, I think he was cited with a misdemeanor for for shoplifting.

00:37:50.120 You had three distinct opportunities, three chances to get rid of him, three chances, three strikes.

00:37:56.540 You're out.

00:37:56.960 And a poor American student winds up dead because.

00:37:59.660 And by the way, let's be clear.

00:38:01.560 Jeremy Caceres is a two year old boy, a beautiful little boy who was murdered just weeks ago in Prince George's County in Virginia, about 30 miles from where Joe Biden was standing.

00:38:14.960 And that little boy was murdered again by an illegal immigrant that Joe Biden let go. 1.00

00:38:21.180 This is happening across the country. 0.99

00:38:22.920 We're getting day after day stories of children raped by illegal immigrants. 0.95

00:38:28.260 Joe Biden has let go. 0.89

00:38:29.360 And he had zero acknowledgement of that, zero intention of changing anything.

00:38:35.200 It was just it was just crocodile tears of I'm so sorry about your daughter without acknowledging it happened because of his policies.

00:38:45.640 And he continues to do those policies, which means there'll be another Lake and Riley tomorrow and another another set of parents that he again disingenuously apologizes.

00:38:55.880 Well, and the proof that the president doesn't seem to care about this issue is the fact that it took him 40 minutes into an hour speech to even mention the border on his own.

00:39:05.960 That's how far they buried the border issue in his State of the Union speech.

00:39:10.340 What I wondered when he was browbeating the Republicans for not voting for even more illegal immigration, which is what his his border bill would have done is.

00:39:19.420 Is he just counting on the American people not realizing that he is dismantling the fence that the Texas border authorities are putting up that it's it's not merely passivity that he's allowing.

00:39:34.560 Actually, I'll give you a little bit of correction on that.

00:39:38.460 He wants to dismantle it, but he hasn't actually done it.

00:39:41.840 He hasn't succeeded.

00:39:42.860 No, no, no.

00:39:43.080 The razor wire is there and and and they ended up Texas had gotten an injunction preventing the Biden administration from removing the razor wire and that injunction got reversed.

00:39:54.840 So the Biden administration is no longer prevented from removing the razor wire, but they have not done.

00:40:02.500 So they wanted to do it.

00:40:03.940 They're prevented from doing it.

00:40:05.660 They're then allowed to do it, but they got spooked by the politics.

00:40:09.200 Yeah.

00:40:09.620 Wow.

00:40:10.380 Wow.

00:40:10.720 That's that's actually encouraging that someone at the White House is saying, hold on that that really crazy thing that we were going to do.

00:40:19.880 Maybe let's hold off for a few days.

00:40:22.140 Wow.

00:40:22.760 All right.

00:40:23.120 Before we end, I got to get you guys reaction to two different things.

00:40:27.340 Two clips from CNN.

00:40:29.260 You guys were obviously in the chamber and you didn't get to see all the commentary.

00:40:33.900 I want you to hear what CNN had to say about the State of the Union.

00:40:38.640 This is clip one.

00:40:39.620 Listen, he seemed like.

00:40:40.720 Walt Kowalski.

00:40:41.640 He talked about this earlier.

00:40:42.480 He seemed like Walt Kowalski in Gran Torino screaming at kids, get off my lawn, like an old guy screaming at kids.

00:40:47.500 My guess is that when he got into the heart of his agenda, the things that you ridicule about the cost of food and, you know, price gouging and so on.

00:40:59.500 I bet you that's scored with a lot of people.

00:41:02.120 I think that the populist economic agenda is a powerful, powerful thing for him.

00:41:08.900 Look, there are parts of it.

00:41:10.120 I'm not sure that the attacks all landed exactly.

00:41:14.040 They may have landed well in that room for sure.

00:41:16.220 And they landed well with base voters for sure.

00:41:18.740 I'm not sure with those swing voters that they landed as well.

00:41:22.680 I mean, that's David Axelrod, the former Obama, you know, senior advisor who's saying, you know, in response to one of the commentators saying, look, it was it was like an old guy screaming to the kids, get off my lawn.

00:41:34.520 It's what you said earlier, Senator.

00:41:35.600 But they're saying CNN and he's even admitting, hey, there's a pretty good chance that didn't play well or land with independent voters.

00:41:44.440 OK, Ben, you're really scaring me.

00:41:46.200 Are you telling me that unbeknownst to me, I was channeling David Axelrod on CNN? 0.99

00:41:51.840 Holy crap. 0.98

00:41:52.860 I might have to just hang it all up right now. 0.98

00:41:55.260 It's over.

00:41:55.740 I am off the rails.

00:41:58.160 Pour him a drink, Michael.

00:41:59.420 Pour him a drink right now.

00:42:00.880 We need to correct something.

00:42:02.160 And I got to say, even worse, Axelrod's analogy is better.

00:42:06.660 He threw out the whole Gran Torino like like he took it one notch better.

00:42:11.560 I am just thoroughly humiliated.

00:42:13.440 And not only that, you'll like this one.

00:42:15.540 So then there was another commentator on CNN who actually said this about the president's speech.

00:42:22.140 Listen, he talked about Snickers and snack chips before before he ever got to the border.

00:42:28.160 He was obsessed with his political rival more than he was obsessed with the condition of the American people.

00:42:34.060 It was so weird.

00:42:35.520 This guy lectures us all on unity, the soul of the nation.

00:42:38.120 And he gives the most partisan convention speech in place of a state of the union that I've ever heard.

00:42:44.660 It's the literal opposite of unity.

00:42:46.840 It's so partisan.

00:42:47.900 He's obsessed with taunting Republicans.

00:42:49.600 It's not statesman life.

00:42:51.260 Let me say one more thing on Israel.

00:42:52.580 I mean, that was Scott Jennings, a former colleague of mine who said that.

00:42:57.560 And he's right, by the way.

00:42:58.840 I mean, he did talk about Snickers and snack chips before he ever got to the border.

00:43:03.280 It was his words.

00:43:04.620 It was just weird.

00:43:06.880 I like his observation that Joe Biden thought he was at the DNC.

00:43:11.800 Maybe that's as simple as that.

00:43:13.200 You know, he thought he walked into the convention.

00:43:15.540 Whoopsie daisy.

00:43:16.100 It actually was a joint session for the state of the union.

00:43:18.340 But, you know, the man doesn't remember his own name.

00:43:20.380 I will say one thing that also that clip reminded me of.

00:43:24.120 It was odd how many times he referenced Trump.

00:43:29.460 I cannot think of any state of the union in my lifetime with that many references to your opponent, the former president, the former president, the former president.

00:43:39.420 And, you know, he's like, you know, you know, I believe in in truth and happiness and love and puppy dogs and fairies.

00:43:47.780 And my opponent believes in hate and suffering and misery and dead puppies.

00:43:54.660 Like it was just like, really, dude?

00:43:57.880 A little defensive, you would say.

00:44:00.460 Campaign 101.

00:44:01.360 I will tell you the list of things Biden didn't mention in the state of the union.

00:44:04.700 You guys ready for this?

00:44:06.260 He did not mention U.S. service members killed in Afghanistan.

00:44:09.480 He did not mention U.S. service members killed by Iranian-backed proxies in the Middle East.

00:44:14.040 He did not mention gas prices.

00:44:16.480 He did not mention TikTok or China.

00:44:19.280 He did not mention North Korea.

00:44:21.900 He didn't mention Cuba.

00:44:23.040 He didn't mention school choice.

00:44:24.680 He didn't mention the classified doc scandal.

00:44:27.220 He didn't mention Hunter Biden or the Biden corruption.

00:44:29.500 He did not mention fossil fuels.

00:44:32.060 He did not mention deporting illegals.

00:44:34.280 He did not mention a border wall.

00:44:36.320 He did not mention the attacks on pregnancy centers.

00:44:38.700 And he did not mention China's human rights abuses.

00:44:42.200 Notice a lot of those connect with people that have given money to the Biden crime family.

00:44:47.300 I'll leave it with that, Senator, your reaction.

00:44:50.480 Well, but do you have anything to say about how many chips are in a bag of chips?

00:44:53.540 I think, you know, I think he did touch on that important subject.

00:44:57.560 You know, the State of the Union may be in trouble, but the State of Chips is really in trouble.

00:45:04.680 There you go.

00:45:05.480 Michael, hey, welcome back, my friend.

00:45:08.800 Always a pleasure.

00:45:09.800 This is fun.

00:45:11.140 Nice way to recap the State of the Union here.

00:45:13.480 Don't forget, Senator Cruz and I do this show Monday, Wednesday, and Friday.

00:45:16.340 We also have the week-end review on Saturdays as well.

00:45:21.000 So make sure you grab that, hit that subscribe or follow or auto-download button.

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00:45:29.220 I'll keep you updated on the latest breaking news on those in-between days.

00:45:32.460 And the Senator and I will see you back here in a couple of days.

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - March 08, 2024

The Angry, Bitter, Yelling 'GET-OFF-MY-LAWN' SOTU Speech

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