Verdict with Ted Cruz - The MASSIVE Coverup of Biden's Mental Decline

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00:00:05.040 Welcome, it is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:08.680 And Senator, nice to be back with you in person here in studio.

00:00:12.000 And it is very interesting to see what's happening right now

00:00:14.740 with the Joe Biden story and the HerTapes coming out.

00:00:18.400 The media that said that he was totally fine

00:00:21.440 are now making money off writing books telling us apparently the truth.

00:00:25.640 Well, every single day now we're getting more and more information

00:00:28.980 about just how bad it was.

00:00:30.620 Look, you and I knew that Joe Biden had experienced

00:00:33.280 very significant mental decline.

00:00:35.520 But as bad as we thought it was, it was even worse.

00:00:39.340 We're now finding out that he had a serious mental decline

00:00:42.780 before he was even sworn in as president,

00:00:44.980 that it was present the entire time he was in the White House,

00:00:48.020 that it got worse and worse.

00:00:49.880 And you mentioned the HerTapes.

00:00:51.480 You and I on this podcast called for those HerTapes 0.67

00:00:54.020 to be released publicly.

00:00:55.940 And the Biden Justice Department, the Democrats stonewalled.

00:00:58.980 And the media had zero interest in what was in those HerTapes.

00:01:02.240 They didn't want to hear them at all.

00:01:03.840 They were not interested in anything that would contradict their narrative.

00:01:06.840 The contrast between the facts and what Democrats and the corporate media said

00:01:13.820 is night and day.

00:01:15.520 It is a stunning indictment of how much of official Washington conspired

00:01:21.200 to lie to the American people and fundamentally to try to steal an election.

00:01:28.120 We're going to break down all of the details.

00:01:30.660 We're going to walk through what's in the HerTapes 1.00

00:01:32.680 and just how everyone involved, from the vice president, to the cabinet,

00:01:39.000 to the members of Congress, to the media,

00:01:41.740 they all knew and they were all deliberately lying.

00:01:44.760 Now, let me say this.

00:01:45.980 As you and I sit here, it is 3.17 p.m. on Sunday.

00:01:50.120 Just 10 minutes ago, a story broke.

00:01:52.320 We don't know the full details, but President Biden's office put out a statement

00:01:58.380 that says last week, President Joe Biden was seen for a new finding of a prostate nodule

00:02:04.820 after experiencing increasing urinary symptoms.

00:02:09.320 On Friday, he was diagnosed with prostate cancer,

00:02:13.040 characterized by a Gleason score of 9, grade group 5, with metastasis to the bone.

00:02:19.380 While this represents a more aggressive form of the disease,

00:02:23.700 the cancer appears to be hormone-sensitive, which allows for effective management.

00:02:28.800 The president and his family are reviewing treatment options with his physicians.

00:02:34.480 Now, this broke literally minutes ago.

00:02:36.480 We don't know anything else other than that statement,

00:02:38.860 but I will certainly say our prayers are with former President Biden and his family.

00:02:44.120 A diagnosis of cancer is always a frightening thing.

00:02:47.540 As you know, my mother is a two-time cancer survivor.

00:02:50.760 It is a horrible thing to go through, so we pray that his treatment goes well.

00:02:54.280 Amen.

00:02:55.500 At the same time, President Biden's illness does not erase the deliberate lying

00:03:02.520 by Kamala Harris, by the White House staff, and by the entire corporate media architecture.

00:03:11.620 Plus the cabinet.

00:03:12.460 Plus the cabinet.

00:03:13.980 Plus the Congress.

00:03:15.620 This was a deliberate deception.

00:03:18.280 And by the way, one of the victims, I think, of this deception was Joe Biden.

00:03:22.160 Because as his decline accelerated, the phrase elder abuse has been used to put him in a position

00:03:30.560 where there was very little credible argument he could do the job.

00:03:34.400 I think that was cruel.

00:03:35.420 And, all right, here's one of the pieces of facts that it has broken.

00:03:41.180 And I'm going to read to you from, there's a big article in The Atlantic

00:03:45.340 that breaks down Jake Tapper's new book on Biden's decline.

00:03:52.280 And, by the way, The Atlantic is a very left-wing publication.

00:03:56.120 It's astonishing.

00:03:56.940 I'm going to read several portions from this article because it's astonishing what they report.

00:04:00.460 Three years later, on the presidential campaign trail, Biden's struggles became more obvious

00:04:07.120 to those around him.

00:04:08.860 Tapper and Thompson report that in 2020, so before he becomes president, members of Biden's

00:04:15.360 inner circle gave the candidate a teleprompter with scripted questions for a local news interview.

00:04:23.420 It was an apparent effort to work around his dwindling communicative and cognitive abilities.

00:04:28.060 Aides lamented that even then, quote, they couldn't rely on him to stay on message

00:04:36.040 and he often had a very short attention span.

00:04:40.140 Let's go to the year here.

00:04:41.240 I want to timestamp this so people understand.

00:04:43.300 2020.

00:04:43.840 This is at the beginning of his presidency.

00:04:46.800 No, no, no.

00:04:47.660 He was elected president in 2020.

00:04:49.240 This is before he was president.

00:04:50.620 Before.

00:04:51.080 He's still a candidate.

00:04:52.520 You sound like Joe Biden in the Robert Hurr tapes.

00:04:54.420 You can't remember.

00:04:55.560 He was elected in 2020.

00:04:56.860 He was sworn in in January of 2021.

00:04:59.260 So he is a candidate for president.

00:05:02.120 And I got to tell you, look, I have been in the Senate for 13 years.

00:05:07.540 I've done at this point probably thousands of interviews.

00:05:10.340 I have no idea how many interviews I've had.

00:05:12.920 I've never once had the questions on a teleprompter.

00:05:17.100 I've never once had answers on a teleprompter.

00:05:19.060 I've read from a teleprompter.

00:05:20.380 If I'm like recording a speech or something, a teleprompter can be helpful.

00:05:23.260 You know, if you're recording a TV commercial, you'll have a script up on a teleprompter.

00:05:27.400 But the idea of an interview is you're supposed to be answering questions and not prescripted.

00:05:33.880 You're not reading something somebody else wrote for you.

00:05:37.600 And I got to say, I want you to listen to an interview, Brett Baer did, where he asked the Biden campaign about this.

00:05:44.520 And it is remarkable.

00:05:46.440 The Biden campaign is dodging.

00:05:48.920 They're evasive.

00:05:49.820 They don't want to answer the question.

00:05:51.400 And nobody else in the media cared to even ask the question.

00:05:54.760 Here, give a look.

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00:07:47.920 Senator, all right, let's play this audio again.

00:07:49.780 This is from Brett Brayer's show on Fox News Channel.

00:07:52.220 Take a look.

00:07:52.940 Has Joe Biden ever used a teleprompter during local interviews or to answer Q&A with supporters?

00:07:58.940 Brett, we are not going to engage—this is straight from the Trump campaign's talking point.

00:08:03.140 But yeah, they're using it.

00:08:03.720 And what it does, and what it does, Brett, is it's trying to distract the American people.

00:08:07.460 I'm just—they're using it.

00:08:08.940 They talk about it every day.

00:08:10.180 Can you say yes or no?

00:08:11.260 That's because—they talk about it every day, Brett, because they don't have a coherent strategy.

00:08:14.960 Well, you have an answer, yes or no.

00:08:17.100 Brett, they talk about it every day because they don't have a coherent argument for why Donald Trump deserves re-election, deserves four more years.

00:08:23.600 We know that he lied to the American people.

00:08:25.500 We know that he has not shown leadership during this crisis, and they are desperate to throw anything they can against the wall to try to distract from that fact.

00:08:33.520 I understand, but you can't answer the question.

00:08:35.940 Brett, I am not going to allow the Trump campaign to funnel their questions through Fox News and get me to respond to that.

00:08:42.280 I don't think any of us realize how telling that interview was.

00:08:45.180 Yeah.

00:08:45.380 Because it said 2020 at the bottom of the screen.

00:08:47.020 It was the election, right, of 2020.

00:08:49.140 2020, the cover-up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline, as you mentioned, started before he even became president.

00:08:57.100 And I'm not aware of anyone else in the media other than Brett Baier that asked that question.

00:09:00.720 There may have been some, but I don't know of anyone else.

00:09:03.420 Certainly CNN.

00:09:04.540 I don't recall CNN reporting.

00:09:06.700 You know, it is—

00:09:08.200 In fact, if you even brought it up, they were angry at you, right?

00:09:10.620 And it's worth, look, underscoring how unusual—you've been in journalism and in politics a long time.

00:09:21.400 Have you ever encountered any other candidate for any other office that has scripted questions and answers from local reporters?

00:09:28.380 No.

00:09:28.720 And in fact, the higher that office gets, the bigger the office, the less likely it would be for that to be acceptable.

00:09:34.920 Like, even if it was running for dog catcher, this wouldn't be normal.

00:09:37.660 But the fact that you're talking about the presidency of the United States of America isn't the same.

00:09:40.980 You know, the only other instance I can think of that was like this is there was an instance with CNN on the Mitt Romney-Barack Obama debate with Kandi Crowley,

00:09:50.260 where, what was it, I guess Donna Brazile was accused of giving Obama the questions ahead of time. 1.00

00:09:56.040 And it was a big scandal.

00:09:57.300 Yeah.

00:09:58.080 I mean, that's how bizarre it out of the mainstream.

00:10:01.960 Now, let me read you another story from this same article in The Atlantic from the book.

00:10:05.580 The book's most astounding previously unreported story from Biden's 2020 campaign concerns his staff's attempt to create videos of the candidates speaking with voters over Zoom.

00:10:19.720 Tapper and Thompson's description of this is worth quoting at length.

00:10:23.680 Biden would sit in a room with several monitors beaming the faces of real Americans in front of him so that he could discuss issues of importance.

00:10:30.220 Remember, this is during COVID.

00:10:31.160 The videos came back, hours of footage.

00:10:35.600 Some on the team couldn't believe their eyes.

00:10:39.400 Quote, the videos were horrible, one top Democrat said.

00:10:44.840 He couldn't follow the conversation at all.

00:10:50.080 Quote, I couldn't believe it, said a second Democrat who hadn't seen Biden in years.

00:10:55.280 It was like a different person.

00:10:57.360 It was incredible.

00:10:58.240 It was like watching grandpa who shouldn't be driving.

00:11:04.320 A special team was brought in and told to edit the videos down to make them arable.

00:11:09.020 If only a few minutes worth.

00:11:11.100 They had to get creative.

00:11:13.340 The authors go on to write, quote, edited.

00:11:17.120 The videos likely appeared fine to viewers.

00:11:19.800 Biden no worse than any other senior on Zoom.

00:11:22.540 But two of the Democrats who were involved in the film's production together were dumbfounded.

00:11:28.020 Quote, I didn't think he could be president, the second Democrat said.

00:11:32.460 After what they'd seen, they couldn't understand how Biden could be capable of doing the job.

00:11:39.280 That was in 2020.

00:11:42.020 Yeah.

00:11:42.140 That was before he was president and that mental decline.

00:11:48.500 By the way, all the reporters who are saying there's nothing to see here.

00:11:55.320 Their sole hope, the glimmer that they're holding on to is Biden was fine in 2020, 21, 22, 23.

00:12:04.660 And it's just at the very end in 24, he had a decline.

00:12:07.420 So we didn't realize that's their sole basis because there are two and only two options.

00:12:13.020 One, Biden had declined badly the entire time and the entire media lied and covered it up.

00:12:18.800 Or two, it was precipitous at the end.

00:12:21.360 Now, on the lying and covering it up, on Friday's pod, we played a montage of all of the corporate media hacks just covering for Biden's decline.

00:12:31.600 Year after year after year.

00:12:34.160 We've got another montage that we're going to play right now.

00:12:36.500 This one's a video montage.

00:12:37.720 So this is one of the episodes that we do on YouTube on video as well so you can watch it.

00:12:42.380 And it shows how they were walking the walk and talking the talk.

00:12:48.200 They were reading their talking points.

00:12:49.940 And their talking points is Joe Biden is Albert Einstein combined with, like, absolute precision.

00:12:57.440 He's amazing.

00:12:58.480 He's no mental decline at all.

00:13:00.320 They stuck to their talking points.

00:13:02.680 Take a look.

00:13:03.760 Start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth. 0.63

00:13:07.500 And F you if you can't handle the truth.

00:13:10.440 This version of Biden is the best Biden ever.

00:13:15.220 He knows so long as he was denied.

00:13:18.820 In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been.

00:13:22.100 President Biden has a photographic memory.

00:13:24.380 His understanding and mastery of a complicated geopolitical situation is remarkable.

00:13:30.840 He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.

00:13:36.460 Jackie, are you here?

00:13:37.700 Where's Jackie?

00:13:38.780 I think she was going to be here.

00:13:41.320 I was sitting, you know, two feet from him across the table.

00:13:45.180 And he was, you know, intense.

00:13:47.440 Had trouble walking sometimes?

00:13:49.280 Yeah, so did FDR.

00:13:50.560 He wanted GD war.

00:13:51.820 But he's totally focused.

00:13:53.420 He's very sharp.

00:13:54.060 They say he's sharp in meetings and so on.

00:13:55.840 Very lucid, well, very well informed.

00:13:58.440 Biden is stately.

00:13:59.340 He comes with gravitas.

00:14:00.480 There hasn't been, as far as I know, a single claim that Biden made a mistake.

00:14:06.840 Ageism is an issue.

00:14:08.400 Americans have a rich history of holding people's physical characteristics against them. 0.82

00:14:13.680 OK, you can ask African-Americans.

00:14:15.020 He's older.

00:14:15.520 That doesn't mean that he is unfit.

00:14:18.620 And there's a lot of ageism there.

00:14:20.360 Now, this age attack, this obsession by the right.

00:14:23.300 Joe Biden may not be able to speak for himself the way that he used to.

00:14:26.480 They want to think to take on government if we get out of line, which they're talking again about.

00:14:31.920 And that's him lying around.

00:14:35.000 I think people should be speaking up for Joe Biden.

00:14:37.500 Americans and reporters in the media are just judging him by a physical appearance.

00:14:42.540 And it's horribly unfair.

00:14:43.400 Age is an asset.

00:14:45.740 He showed exactly how with it he is.

00:14:48.180 The flip side of this coin is that he has a tremendous amount of wisdom and experience.

00:14:53.060 Have you heard any concerns from anyone who has met with President Biden about him seeming a little slower?

00:15:00.320 No.

00:15:00.680 More wild speculation from a bunch of people who have probably never been in a room with Joe Biden and certainly don't have medical degrees that I'm aware of.

00:15:07.760 You don't get paid for performance to be president.

00:15:10.280 You don't. The job is not a job of endurance.

00:15:14.200 I don't see Donald Trump out bike riding like Joe Biden.

00:15:16.980 It's the Hillary's email. All they have is that he's old.

00:15:19.800 He can clear a dementia bar and that's probably a win. 0.74

00:15:23.660 The media are not fair and they're getting less and less fair and things are frightening.

00:15:28.320 You have you have Wall Street Journal running a horribly sourced piece saying that Biden is unfit.

00:15:34.480 Dubious Wall Street Journal report about the president's acuity.

00:15:37.900 Shoddy story by the Wall Street Journal questioning Biden's mental fitness.

00:15:42.660 Wall Street Journal story had a lot of flaws, as you said.

00:15:45.440 But Sinclair, they didn't do any original reporting.

00:15:47.960 They didn't follow up.

00:15:48.900 They didn't do any work.

00:15:50.020 Here with us today is Hirsch Goldberg-Poland.

00:15:53.540 And still, he is not here with us, but he's still being held by Hamas.

00:15:57.960 But a huge part of the Mueller report talks about Russian disinformation tactics.

00:16:02.420 And one of the themes this election cycle is that Joe Biden is too old to lead.

00:16:06.680 And so everyone is seizing upon this.

00:16:08.820 And it is a classic disinformation tactic.

00:16:11.180 And I think the best thing that we can do is to prepare the American people for this false narrative.

00:16:16.120 What do you say to that?

00:16:19.680 I mean, that's just they're insisting there's no mental decline.

00:16:25.760 In fact, he's phenomenal.

00:16:28.480 So we heard 2020.

00:16:31.260 He had to have a teleprompter to be interviewed by a local reporter.

00:16:34.500 He couldn't do a Zoom with real people because it was incoherent and seemed like your grandfather who you wouldn't want driving.

00:16:40.300 Here's 2022.

00:16:41.560 And this is, again, from the Atlantic article.

00:16:43.060 In 2022, according to one witness, Biden found himself unable to remember the name of his own national security advisor, Jake Sullivan.

00:16:57.600 Steve, he called him at least twice.

00:17:00.700 Or his communications director, Kate Bedingfield, whom he once resorted to calling press.

00:17:09.380 Now, that is not normal.

00:17:11.680 And people need to understand, you're around those two individuals on, like, virtually a daily basis, sometimes multiple times a day.

00:17:20.000 And listen, Bob, it is weird not to know the name of someone you deal with daily.

00:17:25.820 John, I couldn't agree with you more.

00:17:27.400 Like, like, like what?

00:17:28.920 OK, to not know your own national security advisor.

00:17:32.860 Is not OK.

00:17:33.940 That's a problem.

00:17:34.900 And so you and I have asked multiple times on this podcast a question I've been asked literally thousands of times by Texans.

00:17:42.020 Who's running the country?

00:17:43.720 What's interesting, there's a segment in this Atlantic article where they address that.

00:17:47.320 And here's what they say.

00:17:49.080 As some high ranking Democrats quoted anonymously in the book, put it to Tapper and Thompson after Biden's disastrous debate last June.

00:17:56.880 Quote, just who the hell is running the country?

00:18:01.560 At least one unnamed source close to the Biden administration was willing to provide the authors with an answer.

00:18:08.820 Quote, five people were running the country, this insider said, seemingly referring to the president's closest advisers.

00:18:16.820 And Joe Biden was as best at best a senior member of the board at best.

00:18:23.200 So he's number six and there's five ahead of him that were right in the country.

00:18:27.900 Now, I want you to listen to this exchange.

00:18:32.500 This this is, I actually think, the most stunning part of the book so far.

00:18:37.920 And by the way, let me know you and I haven't read the book.

00:18:40.940 Yeah, the book hasn't come out.

00:18:42.840 You and I both know Jake Tapper very well.

00:18:45.040 Yeah.

00:18:46.060 Jake Tapper was upset at Friday's podcast and he disputed our characterization.

00:18:51.600 He said he was not he was not defending Biden.

00:18:55.280 He was not lying to the American people.

00:18:57.160 Wasn't showing for him.

00:18:57.580 And you know what?

00:18:58.820 Jake texted me and said, hey, I want to come on the pod.

00:19:01.780 I want to set the record straight.

00:19:03.400 And I told him you are welcome to come on the pod.

00:19:05.840 So if Jake wants to come on the pod, he is welcome.

00:19:08.140 He has an open invitation.

00:19:09.880 And we're trying to set it up.

00:19:10.920 And our team is talking to his team and trying to schedule it.

00:19:14.100 Look, unlike a lot of places, when I go on interviews, particularly with the left wing

00:19:18.560 media, they sandbag you.

00:19:20.860 They attack you that they are wildly unfair.

00:19:24.520 Look, if Jake comes on, he'll get a fair opportunity.

00:19:26.820 He claims some of the quotes were taken out of context.

00:19:29.660 He'll get every opportunity to give all of the context.

00:19:33.040 Now, he should not expect softballs.

00:19:36.460 Sure.

00:19:37.000 He actually has to address his real record.

00:19:39.400 But if he wants to come on, there are a million listeners to a verdict who would be happy to

00:19:43.980 hear him claim that he was not part of what the rest of the media was doing, which was

00:19:49.060 lying for four straight years about Biden's mental decline.

00:19:52.500 I hope that could happen.

00:19:53.820 I would welcome Jake for, as he put it, an adult conversation.

00:19:58.880 I think that would be something you don't find a lot of times when you turn on the television

00:20:03.520 set.

00:20:05.060 Let's read this segment from the book.

00:20:06.920 And I have to rely on The Atlantic because that's all we have is the excerpts that are

00:20:09.720 out.

00:20:10.720 Here's what it says, quote, near the end of their book, Tapper and Thompson offer a glimpse

00:20:15.420 into how powerful Democrats responded to the grim spectacle of Biden's early summer face

00:20:21.040 off with Trump.

00:20:21.680 The authors describe a scene at the home's home of James Costos, an ambassador to Spain

00:20:28.680 under Obama, where celebrities and politicians gathered to watch the debate as a doddering

00:20:35.100 Biden tanked on stage in front of 50 million Americans.

00:20:38.800 The film director and Democratic donor Rob Reiner became scared, then furious.

00:20:44.240 I do kind of like meatheads scared and furious.

00:20:46.560 That makes me happy.

00:20:47.360 Yeah, right.

00:20:47.780 Quote, we are going to lose our effing democracy because of you.

00:20:53.400 It doesn't say effing.

00:20:54.280 I abbreviated it.

00:20:55.280 He screamed, seeming to direct his ire at the closest thing to a Biden official in the

00:21:01.140 room.

00:21:02.020 Second gentleman, Doug Emhoff.

00:21:04.980 What Reiner apparently failed to consider, but what original sin prompts readers to ask

00:21:11.500 is whether American democracy was already meaningfully diminished.

00:21:18.420 This is really important.

00:21:19.420 Listen to what the Atlantic writer says.

00:21:22.740 Describing how some in the Biden world justified propping him up for reelection in 2024.

00:21:27.840 A longtime aide told Tapper and Thompson he just had to win and then he could disappear for

00:21:33.980 four years.

00:21:35.100 He'd only have to show proof of life every once in a while.

00:21:38.380 In other words, before Biden stepped down from the race, the plan for some aides seemed to

00:21:47.840 be a weekend at Bernie's, a cognitively impaired president in the hopes that upon winning a second

00:21:56.580 term, he could be hidden from the public while unelected staff took care of the real business

00:22:02.860 of governing quote, when you vote for somebody, you are voting for the people around them to the aid

00:22:09.100 offered as a way of justifying what was by any reasonable metric, an effort to undermine democracy

00:22:18.380 and defraud the American people.

00:22:22.040 So to be clear, what Democrats were doing in and around Joe Biden is, number one, he wasn't

00:22:28.460 running the country.

00:22:29.340 At best, he was six on the pecking order list.

00:22:31.700 If we believe the five who are above him, I'd love to know.

00:22:34.420 And we don't know the five.

00:22:35.420 Do the American people get to know the five?

00:22:37.280 Is that...

00:22:38.040 Yeah, I would love to know.

00:22:39.160 And that brings up a question.

00:22:40.560 And are there any reporters at ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN asking that question?

00:22:45.040 Who are the five?

00:22:45.880 Who are the big five that were elected by no one?

00:22:47.620 Like when you list the presidents in the history book, is 46 going to have an asterisk and be

00:22:53.720 the actual president with the following five people?

00:22:56.400 Or does nobody care?

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00:23:29.860 Which brings me to the question that I think everybody listening right now are watching

00:23:33.740 is thinking.

00:23:34.600 There has to be some sort of investigation in theory to figure this out so it never happens

00:23:41.620 again.

00:23:41.960 I don't care if it's Republican or Democrat.

00:23:43.380 If you're incapacitated as a Republican, you shouldn't have a country run by a pyramid

00:23:50.080 of five random people that no one elected that, hell, you can't even name or are not

00:23:54.260 being named.

00:23:55.260 I agree with you.

00:23:56.760 And the standard, I want to quote again from the left-wing Atlantic, the quote,

00:24:04.460 this was, quote, by any reasonable metric, an effort to undermine democracy and defraud the

00:24:15.220 American people.

00:24:16.340 Every Democrat who lied to the American people ought to be asked about their effort to undermine

00:24:21.980 democracy and defraud the American people. 0.98

00:24:23.960 Now, one of the things they did is they kept hidden the Herr tapes.

00:24:31.860 And let's remind people quickly of the Herr tapes.

00:24:34.080 2023.

00:24:35.120 So Robert Herr was a special counsel appointed and it was an inconvenient fact.

00:24:39.880 So the Biden Justice Department desperately wanted to stop Donald Trump from getting reelected.

00:24:44.260 They wanted to stop the voters from voting for him.

00:24:46.280 So they indicted him.

00:24:47.400 They indicted him multiple times.

00:24:49.900 One of the things they indicted him for was allegedly improperly storing classified documents

00:24:54.260 at Mar-a-Lago.

00:24:55.640 And then they had the incredibly inconvenient fact that Joe Biden had committed the exact

00:25:02.160 same thing, not once, but over and over and over again.

00:25:04.780 And he was caught red-handed.

00:25:06.420 And maybe I've had documents, I said, back to when he was like in the Senate.

00:25:09.220 When he was in the Senate, classified documents, which is bizarre.

00:25:13.180 You and I talked about in the Senate, I can tell you with an absolute fact, there are zero

00:25:18.460 classified documents in my house.

00:25:20.540 There are zero classified documents by my antique Corvette, because I don't have an antique

00:25:26.600 Corvette.

00:25:27.940 And I can tell you there aren't classified documents anywhere else.

00:25:30.860 Why?

00:25:31.240 Because I've only read classified documents one place, which is in a skiff.

00:25:35.280 A skiff is a secure compartmental location in the basement of the Capitol.

00:25:40.180 I've read a lot of classified documents, but I go down to the skiff, I read them there,

00:25:44.060 and I leave them there.

00:25:45.020 So I don't stick them in my socks or underwear, which, by the way, Bill Clinton's National

00:25:49.920 Security Advisor, Sandy Berger, did.

00:25:51.480 I don't smuggle them out.

00:25:53.000 So I don't know how Joe Biden, as a senator, had classified documents at his beach house,

00:25:57.640 because I never took them.

00:25:59.220 I've never once taken them out of the skiff.

00:26:02.120 But I want you to listen.

00:26:03.340 So Robert Herr was a prosecutor.

00:26:05.940 He was assigned to investigate Joe Biden.

00:26:09.460 He concluded, by the way, Joe Biden violated the exact same law that they were prosecuting

00:26:13.720 Donald Trump for allegedly violating.

00:26:16.340 And then DOJ refused to prosecute Biden because they said he was incompetent to be tried.

00:26:23.780 Yes.

00:26:24.220 And Robert Herr had some descriptions about how Biden, you couldn't convict him in front

00:26:30.100 of a jury because he was an old man with a poor memory and no jury would convict him.

00:26:34.660 And the entire Democrat machine roared back at him.

00:26:39.320 The media, all the people who were covering up Biden, they tried to demonize Robert Herr as

00:26:44.020 the bad guy.

00:26:45.180 Robert Herr is the bad guy.

00:26:46.120 And by the way, you and I on this show called for release the tapes.

00:26:50.600 Yeah.

00:26:50.820 So we could see how bad it was.

00:26:51.820 People here and and the DOJ said no, they asserted executive immunity, which was incoherent.

00:27:01.560 It made no sense legally.

00:27:02.700 What they were really asserting is this is politically embarrassing and people will realize 0.93

00:27:08.020 that we're covering up a mentally incompetent president if they're released. 0.62

00:27:11.880 Well, they've been released now.

00:27:13.480 I want you to listen.

00:27:14.740 I want you to listen to one segment here that this is the DOJ prosecutor interviewing Joe

00:27:21.280 Biden.

00:27:21.780 This is in 2023.

00:27:23.020 Give a listen.

00:27:23.520 So during this time, we were living in Chambers Road and there were documents related to the

00:27:30.340 Penn Biden Center or the Biden or the cancer from your shot or your book.

00:27:37.560 Where did you keep papers that related to those things that you were actively working on?

00:27:43.420 Well, um, I, I, I, I don't know.

00:27:54.480 This is what, 2017, 18, that period?

00:27:59.700 Yes, sir.

00:28:01.420 Remember, in this time frame, my son has either been deployed or is dying.

00:28:10.140 Um, and, uh, and so it was, uh, and by the way, there were still a lot of people at the

00:28:23.960 time when I got out of the Senate that were encouraging me to run in this period, uh, except

00:28:34.620 the president.

00:28:35.200 Um, uh, I'm not, uh, not a mean thing to say, I mean, he just thought that she had a better

00:28:41.760 shot of winning the presidency than I did.

00:28:45.860 And so I hadn't, I hadn't at this point, even though I'm at Penn, I hadn't walked away

00:28:51.840 from the idea that I might run for office again.

00:28:55.100 If I ran again, I'd be running for president.

00:28:57.220 And, uh, and so what was happening, though, one month of Bo died, uh, May 30th, uh, 2015.

00:29:10.340 When, in 2015, he had died.

00:29:12.500 I think it was 2015.

00:29:14.300 I think it was 2015.

00:29:15.820 I'm not sure the month, sir, but I think it was here.

00:29:18.660 That's right, Mr. President.

00:29:20.480 And what's happened in the meantime is that, uh, as, and Trump gets elected in November of

00:29:36.120 2017, 2016, 2016, all right, so, why did I have 2017 here?

00:29:46.940 That's when you left office, uh, in January of 2017.

00:29:50.400 Yeah, okay, um, but that's when Trump gets sworn in at the January of 2017.

00:29:58.120 Okay, yeah, but, and, uh, in 2017, Bo had passed, and, uh, this is personal.

00:30:14.560 Well, the genesis of the book and the title, Promise Me Dad, was a, uh, I know you're all

00:30:33.500 close with your sons and daughters, but Bo was like my right arm, and that was my left.

00:30:41.340 And, uh, these guys were a year and a day apart, and they could finish each other's sentences.

00:30:47.160 And, uh, Bo, I used to go home on the train in the period that I was still in the Senate.

00:31:06.080 Anyway, excuse me, there was pressure, not pressure, Bo knew how much I adored him.

00:31:23.620 And, uh, and, uh, and it sounds, maybe it sounds so, everybody knew how close we were.

00:31:35.020 There was not anybody in the world, I wonder whether or not, anyway.

00:31:43.020 And so...

00:31:43.620 Sir, I'm wondering if this is a good time to take a break.

00:31:46.460 No, I, let me just keep going to get it done.

00:31:49.000 The last part there, I actually feel bad for Joe Biden.

00:31:53.700 I think it's very clear that people are taking advantage of him.

00:31:56.360 I, I think this is a form of elder abuse.

00:31:58.580 Yeah, no, that was sad.

00:31:59.520 It is.

00:31:59.920 It's just, it is absolutely sad.

00:32:01.600 That is the President of the United States of America.

00:32:03.520 And the fact that there were so many people wanting to keep their power, whoever those

00:32:06.360 five people were, that they did this to him.

00:32:08.640 Look, and, and, and he, do you remember, remember the question that was in the front of that?

00:32:13.940 What was it?

00:32:14.480 It was, where are you keeping classified documents?

00:32:18.200 And he went down a four-minute recollection of losing his son, tragically, and, and there's

00:32:25.160 nothing sadder than, than a parent bearing a child. 0.79

00:32:28.120 And then that's certainly a personal tragedy that, that Joe Biden has had more than his

00:32:31.820 fair share of.

00:32:33.480 Um, but he was not able to even answer the question.

00:32:38.320 Um, well, all right, here's another segment of the, her, her tapes.

00:32:44.800 Let, let, let, let, listen, listen to this next, uh, excerpt.

00:32:49.040 This memo, Mr. President, was this something that you consciously kept after your term as

00:32:56.220 Vice President?

00:32:57.660 Is this something that you wanted to hold on to?

00:33:00.000 I don't recall.

00:33:01.180 Did I have this, this in my possession, this memo?

00:33:04.340 Um, yes, to give you some context for this, Mr. President, it was found in the front of

00:33:09.360 this notebook, uh, that's on the first page, and the notebook was found in the library at

00:33:15.540 the Lake House, in one of the drawers.

00:33:18.980 Your answer is that you don't recall.

00:33:20.180 I don't recall how it got back, I mean, I don't recall how it got back in the book, because

00:33:26.300 I sent it to the President, I gave it to the President, and this looks like the original.

00:33:31.580 I don't think it was, maybe it was a copy made of it, but I don't think so.

00:33:34.520 It was faxed, just to give you some context.

00:33:36.880 Oh, okay, that's why.

00:33:38.160 Yeah.

00:33:39.020 All right, now I got it.

00:33:40.420 I wasn't sure how I got, how I, whether I gave it to the President, but it was faxed to

00:33:45.460 the President, which I had to copy.

00:33:47.160 Right.

00:33:47.820 Okay.

00:33:48.200 You had the original.

00:33:48.880 Yeah, I had the original, and I just put it in the book, and that was it.

00:33:51.780 Okay.

00:33:53.000 Were you aware that you had kept it after your term as Vice President?

00:33:58.780 Did you know that you had it?

00:34:00.960 I, I, I don't know that I knew, but it wouldn't, uh, it wouldn't sound something I would have

00:34:06.000 started to think about.

00:34:09.120 The reason I ask is, it's been written about, Bob Woodward wrote about it in one of his books.

00:34:14.960 Um, Jules Winkcover wrote about it in his biography of you, so that's, that's the reason I asked,

00:34:21.920 is if it was something that you wanted to hang on to because it was going to be the subject

00:34:25.780 of reporting, or his...

00:34:27.260 I don't know if it was going to be subject reporting, but I, I wanted to hang, I guess I wanted to

00:34:31.800 hang on to it just for posterity's sake.

00:34:34.440 I mean, this was my position on Afghanistan.

00:34:37.100 I, I've been of view, from a historical standpoint, that there are certain points in history,

00:34:48.000 world history, where fundamental things change using technology.

00:34:52.820 For example, without Gutenberg's printing press, Europe would be a very different place.

00:34:58.760 Literally a different place, because countries would not have known what, what was happening

00:35:04.180 in other countries, other parts of the country. 0.98

00:35:07.020 You know, uh, think about a stupid idea, a notion, Nixon probably would have been on president 0.99

00:35:12.240 where he used to television, where he sweated, I mean sincerely, he was sweated so profusely 1.00

00:35:17.680 in that debate.

00:35:18.680 A lot of people thought he won the debate, but he lost the debate because of his demeanor.

00:35:24.180 So, the, so there's a lot of things that I think are fundamentally changing how international

00:35:33.640 societies function, and they relate a lot to technology.

00:35:37.180 And one of the things that I was in the view that a lot has changed in terms of everything

00:35:47.180 from the internet, to, to the way in which we communicate with one another, to, that has

00:35:57.180 fundamentally altered the ability.

00:35:59.180 I've had this discussion with the press.

00:36:01.180 Mr. President, I'm sorry to interrupt you.

00:36:03.180 No, I'm sorry.

00:36:04.180 Anyway, that's, that's what I wanted to do.

00:36:05.180 I, I, I really.

00:36:06.180 It had nothing to do with Afghanistan.

00:36:07.180 Okay.

00:36:08.180 That answered my question.

00:36:09.180 And Mark, just really quickly, I promise it'll be brief.

00:36:11.180 I, I just really would like to avoid, for the purpose of a clean record, getting into

00:36:16.180 speculative areas.

00:36:17.180 When the president responded and said, I don't recall intending to keep this memo.

00:36:22.180 You then said, well, you know, might you have thought it was important to keep and whatever.

00:36:26.180 And he said, well, I guess I, I could have.

00:36:29.180 His recollection, as I understand it, is he does not recall specifically intending to keep

00:36:34.180 this memo after he left the vice presidency.

00:36:36.180 And I want that to be, I want these questions to be as clearly answered and recorded on the transcript

00:36:41.180 as possible.

00:36:42.180 I think we should take a break.

00:36:45.180 If there's one thing that's consistent, they wanted to take a break.

00:36:48.180 And, and you had the questions coming in, in such a kind way.

00:36:52.180 Like this is not what I was expecting.

00:36:54.180 So, so let me say legally, that exchange is very important.

00:36:58.180 So this is a classified document on Afghanistan.

00:37:02.180 I don't actually know the precise details of the document, but it's a classified document

00:37:05.180 in Afghanistan that he had in a non-secure location, which is a criminal violation.

00:37:11.180 Is the violation they were charging right then.

00:37:14.180 The Biden justice department was prosecuting Donald Trump for doing exactly that.

00:37:18.180 And, and the prosecutor asked him, so did, did, did you, did you intend to keep this document?

00:37:24.180 And he's like, I don't know.

00:37:26.180 I don't.

00:37:27.180 And immediately his lawyer jumps in.

00:37:28.180 Your answer is you don't know.

00:37:30.180 Now his lawyer has been a good lawyer there.

00:37:32.180 Because this is all about establishing the mens rea, the, the, the mental status to be guilty

00:37:38.180 of the client crime.

00:37:39.180 But then Biden goes on and says, you know, well, why, why did you keep it?

00:37:43.180 It's been reported.

00:37:44.180 It's been in this book.

00:37:45.180 It's that book.

00:37:46.180 I kept it for, for posterity.

00:37:48.180 I, it was important to have.

00:37:49.180 And his lawyer comes in at the end. 0.99

00:37:51.180 He's like, oh crap. 0.99

00:37:52.180 Oh crap. 1.00

00:37:53.180 You just admitted. 1.00

00:37:54.180 That you did this on purpose.

00:37:55.180 And you kept it because you wanted to be able to tell a really good story about Joe

00:38:00.180 Biden.

00:38:01.180 And you wanted to leak classified information to reporters and you needed the memo to do

00:38:04.180 it.

00:38:05.180 And then his, that his reporter at the end, his lawyer at the end, tries to clean that

00:38:10.180 up.

00:38:11.180 That exchange has enormous legal significance.

00:38:14.180 Had DOJ not concluded that the sitting president of the United States was incompetent

00:38:20.180 to stand trial.

00:38:21.180 Let me repeat that sentence because it's an astonishing one.

00:38:24.180 Had DOJ not concluded that the sitting president is incompetent to stand trial, that exchange would

00:38:33.180 have featured prominently in the criminal trial, convicting him of violating that law.

00:38:38.180 You, you look at now what we're seeing with this her tape and I, and I, I go back to accountability.

00:38:45.180 There are clearly people that were helping cover this up.

00:38:48.180 They were taking advantage of Joe Biden.

00:38:50.180 Um, I think his family obviously was in on this as well.

00:38:53.180 They wanted the power, whoever the five people are.

00:38:56.180 The question I ask you is how the hell do we find out who the five people are and what

00:39:01.180 is Congress's role play in this to make sure it never happens again.

00:39:05.180 There should absolutely be congressional hearings.

00:39:07.180 We need an answer.

00:39:08.180 The media ought to do its job and report.

00:39:10.180 I want to play one more excerpt from the her tapes.

00:39:12.180 Listen to this final excerpt.

00:39:14.180 I went to Mongolia and, uh, and, uh, great pictures.

00:39:19.180 I, unfortunately, embarrassed the hell out of, uh, the leader of Mongolia.

00:39:24.180 They were doing a, what they would do at the time of the invasion of the Mongols into Europe

00:39:33.180 in the, uh, in the, uh, 800s.

00:39:36.180 And so we're out in the middle of nowhere and they're looking up on the hill and you see

00:39:40.180 this tiny line.

00:39:41.180 You know, it's a 20-mile horse race with all these kids under the age of 16 on bareback 0.99

00:39:46.180 racing to come down.

00:39:48.180 And, you know, they're sumo wrestlers and doing everything they do.

00:39:52.180 And, uh, so they walked over and they had a target.

00:39:56.180 The bale said, hey, 100 yards away.

00:39:59.180 And these gorillas were, you know, taking shots. 1.00

00:40:03.180 And, uh, I think, I don't know if it embarrassed me or took them to make a point, but they handed

00:40:08.180 the bow and arrow.

00:40:09.180 I'm not a bad archer.

00:40:11.180 But, uh, the only problem that worked, I could pull it back. 0.99

00:40:15.180 So I, pure luck, I hit the goddamn target. 0.99

00:40:19.180 No, I really did. 0.99

00:40:22.180 Bales of hay that were like 20 bales of hay with a, with a big target in the middle of

00:40:27.180 a bale.

00:40:28.180 And so I didn't mean anything by it. 0.99

00:40:30.180 I turned a primarish hand at the hand and pushed some bitch couldn't pull it back. 1.00

00:40:37.180 So look, if, uh, Genghis Khan, if Genghis Khan comes, comes in, if, if we face the Mongol 0.97

00:40:45.180 horde, know that, that Joe Biden is ready to, to, to fire his bow and arrow.

00:40:51.180 Look, there are a lot of things you can say about this interview, but it's very clear why

00:40:59.180 Democrats did not want this release before the election, because anyone listening would,

00:41:04.180 would, would make up their own mind.

00:41:06.180 And I want to contrast what you've heard, what you've heard with your own ears to what

00:41:11.180 Kamala Harris said right after this report came out, because Kamala Harris, you asked

00:41:16.180 about the five people.

00:41:17.180 I doubt Kamala was one of the five, actually.

00:41:19.180 I think it was, it was Barack Obama and four henchmen.

00:41:23.180 But Kamala was willing to like wield a knife and attack the prosecutor that the Biden DOJ had 1.00

00:41:31.180 appointed for, for telling the truth that, that Biden's mental capacity was severely deteriorated

00:41:37.180 rather than fess up, rather than be truthful to the American people.

00:41:41.180 She was happy to lie.

00:41:42.180 Give a listen.

00:41:44.180 And what I saw that report last night, I believe is as a former prosecutor, um, the comments

00:41:58.180 that were made by that prosecutor, gratuitous, inaccurate, and inappropriate.

00:42:06.180 October 7th, Israel experienced a horrific attack.

00:42:14.180 And I will tell you, we got the calls, the president and myself, in the hours after that occurred.

00:42:23.180 It was an intense moment for the commander in chief of the United States of America.

00:42:31.180 And I was in almost every meeting with the president in the hours and days that followed.

00:42:39.180 Countless hours with the period of defense, the secretary of state, the heads of our intelligence

00:42:48.180 community.

00:42:49.180 And the president was in front of and on top of it all, asking questions and requiring that

00:43:01.180 America's military and intelligence community and diplomatic community would figure out and

00:43:06.180 know how many people were dead.

00:43:09.180 How many are Americans?

00:43:11.180 How many hostages?

00:43:12.180 Is the situation stable?

00:43:14.180 How many hold sampled on their hands?

00:43:15.180 He was in front of it all, coordinating and directing leaders who are in charge of America's

00:43:24.180 national security, not to mention our allies around the globe.

00:43:30.180 For days and, up until now, months.

00:43:35.180 So the way that the president's demeanor in that report was characterized could not be more wrong on the facts and clearly politically motivated, gratuitous.

00:43:51.960 And so I will say that when it comes to the role and responsibility of a prosecutor in a situation like that, we should expect that there would be a higher level of integrity than what we saw.

00:44:08.820 So in front of and on top of it all.

00:44:12.800 So what you just saw was Kamala Harris lying to the American people, doing so knowingly.

00:44:17.880 The guy we heard on the tapes, she interacts every time.

00:44:22.020 I actually want to play one more clip.

00:44:23.260 I want to play Alejandro Mayorkas, the secretary of Homeland Security.

00:44:27.120 This is on national television describing his experiences with Joe Biden.

00:44:31.800 The most difficult part about a meeting with President Biden is preparing for it because he is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented and focused.

00:44:43.840 OK, if he said that in court, he would be prosecuted for perjury.

00:44:49.080 Yeah, he's lying. 0.99

00:44:50.680 And by the way, Mayorkas is a liar. 0.98

00:44:52.660 He's a lawyer. 0.99

00:44:53.700 He knows he's lying and he doesn't care.

00:44:56.920 Kamala Harris is also a lawyer. 1.00

00:44:58.400 She's also a liar. 1.00

00:44:59.360 She knows she's lying. 1.00

00:45:00.820 She doesn't care.

00:45:02.220 Everyone in the media who over and over and over again lied.

00:45:06.340 This was, as you and I had described, we've invoked the analogy Weekend at Bernie's, which is actually, ironically, what Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson invoke.

00:45:16.460 Weekend at Bernie's, for those of you all who don't remember, is a movie 30 years ago about a guy who dies and they spend the whole weekend at his place anyway.

00:45:23.980 And they just kind of they just keep the corpse there to be with them.

00:45:28.600 That's what they effectively wanted to do. 0.97

00:45:30.580 They wanted to prop up a president who they knew was mentally incompetent and hide him away.

00:45:40.160 They just apparently a group of people who decide they do want to be president and they didn't have to run for office either.

00:45:44.420 And there is a contempt for democracy and a contempt for the voters.

00:45:51.600 Every single elected Democrat ought to be asked repeatedly, why did you lie to the American people?

00:45:57.480 And every reporter who was complicit in it ought to be asked repeatedly, why did you lie to the American people?

00:46:04.560 They should not be able to sweep this under the rug because it was for five years.

00:46:10.200 It was deliberate.

00:46:11.760 It was consistent.

00:46:13.060 And it was without regard to the consequences for this country.

00:46:16.800 It's incredible.

00:46:17.680 I'll say it again.

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