Verdict with Ted Cruz - June 02, 2022


The Nature of Evil


Episode Stats

Length

38 minutes

Words per Minute

161.686

Word Count

6,204

Sentence Count

362

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

Ted Cruz responds to the mass shooting in America and calls for an end to the culture of fear, isolation, and fear-mongering that is destroying the lives of young Americans. He also discusses Matt Walsh's new documentary, What is a Woman?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
00:00:02.320 Guaranteed human.
00:00:04.240 It's far easier to slander one's political adversaries
00:00:07.800 and to demand that responsible citizens
00:00:10.480 forfeit their constitutional rights
00:00:12.780 than it is to examine the cultural sickness
00:00:16.880 giving birth to unspeakable acts of evil.
00:00:21.260 It's far less comfortable to ask
00:00:23.300 why despair and isolation and violent hatred
00:00:27.320 is so prevalent in America.
00:00:31.220 It requires a sick soul
00:00:33.780 to drive a truck into a crowded sidewalk,
00:00:39.000 to plan a bomb at a marathon,
00:00:42.520 or to fly a plane into a building.
00:00:46.360 It requires a sick soul
00:00:49.280 to open fire in a movie theater
00:00:51.720 or in a church or in a school.
00:00:55.780 A speeding automobile in the hands of a madman
00:01:00.060 is deadly,
00:01:02.760 as is a jet airplane.
00:01:05.820 Tragedies like the events of this week
00:01:08.180 are a mirror,
00:01:11.080 forcing us to ask hard questions,
00:01:13.240 demanding that we see where our culture
00:01:16.240 is failing.
00:01:18.180 Looking at broken families,
00:01:23.180 absent fathers,
00:01:24.760 declining church attendance,
00:01:26.560 social media bullying,
00:01:29.240 violent online content,
00:01:31.320 desensitizing the act of murder in video games,
00:01:35.520 chronic isolation,
00:01:36.800 prescription drug and opioid abuse,
00:01:45.180 and their collective effects
00:01:46.980 on the psyche of young Americans.
00:01:49.820 Today's episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz
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00:03:07.460 This episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz
00:03:10.000 is brought to you by Matt Walsh's new film,
00:03:12.200 the new Daily Wire documentary,
00:03:14.060 What is a Woman?
00:03:15.100 I've been waiting for this film
00:03:16.100 since the day Matt announced it
00:03:17.880 and it does not disappoint.
00:03:19.740 Radical gender ideology
00:03:21.020 is corrupting our nation right now.
00:03:22.880 It's seeping into our children's classrooms
00:03:24.680 as young as kindergarten and preschool.
00:03:27.380 It's even poisoned corporate culture.
00:03:29.360 We see Disney
00:03:30.100 and their queerness agenda
00:03:31.900 that they're inserting
00:03:32.720 into their children's programming.
00:03:34.220 This has become a cultural phenomenon
00:03:35.720 that is assaulting women,
00:03:38.080 that is trying to erase biological women.
00:03:39.900 And so Matt Walsh is fighting this fight.
00:03:42.300 He goes on a global,
00:03:43.420 on a world tour,
00:03:44.860 asking a very simple question.
00:03:47.020 What is a woman?
00:03:48.440 And fortunately,
00:03:49.660 he took a film crew with him,
00:03:50.580 so we all get to come
00:03:51.260 on this journey with him.
00:03:52.180 And you will be shocked
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00:03:55.580 what you would think
00:03:56.180 is a very simple question.
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00:03:59.440 twisted idea of what a woman is.
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00:05:37.900 Welcome to Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:05:39.660 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:05:42.040 We've just had the NRA convention.
00:05:44.980 This was obviously
00:05:46.680 very controversial,
00:05:47.740 major calls from the left
00:05:49.880 to regulate guns
00:05:51.920 and ban all sorts of guns.
00:05:53.660 This after the shooting
00:05:54.880 in Uvalde.
00:05:56.620 I have to point out
00:05:57.600 a lot of people dropped out
00:05:59.280 of the NRA convention.
00:06:01.520 Governor Abbott dropped out.
00:06:03.320 Senator Cornyn dropped out.
00:06:05.140 Congressman Dan Crenshaw
00:06:06.080 dropped out.
00:06:07.220 Dan Patrick, I think,
00:06:08.140 dropped out.
00:06:08.700 The lieutenant governor
00:06:09.340 of Texas.
00:06:10.360 A lot of people dropped out.
00:06:12.000 Senator, you did not.
00:06:13.300 You showed up.
00:06:14.560 You gave a robust defense
00:06:17.240 of the Second Amendment.
00:06:18.320 I'm not saying it
00:06:18.940 to flatter you
00:06:19.600 and you know that
00:06:20.300 I hate to compliment you.
00:06:21.600 You gave what I thought
00:06:22.880 was a really, really powerful
00:06:24.420 and important speech.
00:06:25.340 I thought it was important
00:06:26.900 to be there.
00:06:27.740 I was disappointed
00:06:28.900 to see so many others
00:06:30.660 make the decision
00:06:31.360 not to be there.
00:06:33.700 In part because
00:06:35.340 the media narrative
00:06:37.420 that comes out
00:06:38.460 of horrific crimes,
00:06:41.000 horrific mass murders,
00:06:43.280 within seconds,
00:06:44.660 the media immediately
00:06:45.740 wants to politicize them
00:06:47.180 and use them
00:06:48.200 to advance their
00:06:49.460 longstanding political agenda
00:06:50.860 that they had
00:06:51.600 moments before
00:06:53.300 the murder occurred.
00:06:54.980 And in this instance,
00:06:56.440 the media
00:06:56.860 and the Democrats,
00:06:57.540 they want to label
00:06:58.840 anyone who believes
00:07:00.700 in the Second Amendment,
00:07:01.780 anyone who defends
00:07:02.560 the Second Amendment
00:07:03.460 as responsible
00:07:05.480 for this horrific crime.
00:07:07.540 And the NRA
00:07:08.220 in particular
00:07:08.960 is probably
00:07:09.920 their favorite boogeyman.
00:07:11.720 Donald Trump spoke as well.
00:07:13.000 He and I spoke
00:07:13.580 back to back.
00:07:14.280 And I chatted
00:07:16.080 with Trump
00:07:16.640 right before
00:07:18.080 he went on stage
00:07:19.020 and thanked him
00:07:19.900 for coming.
00:07:20.520 And, you know,
00:07:21.040 I said, look,
00:07:21.720 it was important
00:07:23.440 that you came.
00:07:24.360 It was important
00:07:25.020 that you didn't back out.
00:07:26.240 Thank you for being here.
00:07:27.480 And he, of course,
00:07:29.800 agreed and he had,
00:07:31.180 let me just say,
00:07:32.260 some choice words
00:07:33.380 for some of the folks
00:07:35.240 who chose not to be there.
00:07:37.300 You know,
00:07:37.720 they were with classic
00:07:39.320 Trump understatement.
00:07:42.340 He expressed his views
00:07:44.020 on that topic.
00:07:45.120 Well, there's an irony here,
00:07:46.160 which is why
00:07:46.680 I really appreciated
00:07:48.260 your speech.
00:07:49.720 I've got to cut it out
00:07:50.680 with the compliments for you.
00:07:51.780 You know,
00:07:51.940 this is the last episode
00:07:52.900 and we'll get back
00:07:53.680 to criticism next time.
00:07:54.620 But I really appreciated it
00:07:56.360 because when
00:07:57.900 whenever anyone
00:07:59.400 brings up
00:08:00.280 cultural factors,
00:08:02.180 something other than guns
00:08:03.520 in any of these tragedies,
00:08:05.240 what the left says is,
00:08:07.360 well, you're just evading
00:08:08.400 the question.
00:08:09.000 You're just trying to distract
00:08:10.020 from the real issue,
00:08:11.060 which is guns.
00:08:11.680 We've gone through
00:08:12.260 all of these statistics.
00:08:13.520 I don't see any reason
00:08:14.320 to rehash them now.
00:08:16.300 So, all right,
00:08:17.320 we've addressed
00:08:17.880 the gun part.
00:08:19.180 Why are you not allowing us
00:08:20.780 to address
00:08:21.320 the fatherlessness part?
00:08:23.000 Why are you not allowing us
00:08:24.140 to address
00:08:24.520 the social isolation?
00:08:25.740 Why are you not allowing us
00:08:27.200 to address
00:08:27.580 the decline in religion
00:08:29.040 and faith
00:08:29.540 and going to church?
00:08:30.220 Why is that the part
00:08:32.480 that we're not allowed
00:08:33.340 to address?
00:08:33.960 It seems to me
00:08:34.800 that that's far more
00:08:35.860 the common thread here
00:08:36.880 even than the guns.
00:08:38.720 You know,
00:08:38.940 I will say the speech
00:08:40.240 that I gave
00:08:41.660 was very different
00:08:42.420 from the speech
00:08:42.960 I'd planned to give.
00:08:44.420 I've spoken at a lot
00:08:45.540 of NRA conventions.
00:08:47.300 I know how to give
00:08:48.880 a, you know,
00:08:50.540 barn burner
00:08:51.140 of a speech.
00:08:51.860 And so I decided
00:08:53.500 instead
00:08:53.980 to give
00:08:55.820 what I hope
00:08:56.480 was a thoughtful,
00:08:59.340 serious speech
00:09:00.380 on
00:09:01.520 the nature of evil.
00:09:03.760 That was the entire
00:09:05.640 topic of my speech.
00:09:06.840 Both the nature of evil,
00:09:08.060 why it is
00:09:08.840 that we have
00:09:10.480 mass murderers,
00:09:11.380 we have people
00:09:12.200 who commit horrific crimes,
00:09:13.600 whether it's shooting
00:09:14.300 a school
00:09:15.140 or shooting a church
00:09:16.260 or shooting a movie theater,
00:09:18.200 or you have people
00:09:19.200 that, you know,
00:09:21.120 commit crimes
00:09:22.080 driving a truck
00:09:23.220 into a Christmas parade,
00:09:24.740 murdering six people,
00:09:27.140 or setting off a bomb
00:09:28.980 at the Boston Marathon.
00:09:30.340 I mean,
00:09:30.520 we are seeing
00:09:31.580 sick,
00:09:33.120 homicidal people.
00:09:35.300 Many of the times
00:09:36.640 they are young,
00:09:37.940 disaffected men
00:09:39.140 who are alienated,
00:09:41.420 who are isolated,
00:09:42.740 who are angry.
00:09:44.660 The per capita rate
00:09:46.320 of gun ownership
00:09:47.240 in 1972
00:09:49.600 was 43%
00:09:52.160 in America.
00:09:53.600 The per capita rate
00:09:55.120 of gun ownership
00:09:55.920 in 2021,
00:09:57.280 49 years later,
00:09:58.800 is 42%.
00:10:01.520 It's identical.
00:10:03.940 The same percentage
00:10:05.140 of Americans
00:10:05.920 own firearms today
00:10:07.520 as did 50 years ago.
00:10:09.660 So that hasn't changed.
00:10:11.440 It's not like in 1970
00:10:13.080 people didn't have firearms.
00:10:14.860 You had the exact
00:10:15.640 same percentage
00:10:16.400 of Americans
00:10:17.180 owning firearms.
00:10:18.940 What's changed
00:10:19.760 is the culture,
00:10:23.240 the loss of faith,
00:10:25.020 the loss of family.
00:10:26.720 And by the way,
00:10:27.400 the left,
00:10:27.900 you know,
00:10:28.040 when I talked about,
00:10:28.980 you know,
00:10:29.280 homes without fathers
00:10:30.360 in them,
00:10:30.880 and so many
00:10:31.860 of these mass murders
00:10:32.820 are raised
00:10:33.460 with absent fathers,
00:10:34.680 often criminal fathers
00:10:35.680 or abusive fathers,
00:10:36.820 but absent fathers.
00:10:38.440 Virtually all of them.
00:10:39.500 Virtually every single
00:10:40.700 one of these shootings
00:10:41.340 involves a father
00:10:41.980 outside the home.
00:10:42.580 You know,
00:10:43.360 it was interesting
00:10:44.000 seeing some of the reactions
00:10:45.200 of the left
00:10:45.720 because it's almost
00:10:46.220 pathological
00:10:47.180 where they come back
00:10:48.040 and attack me
00:10:48.700 and said,
00:10:49.240 well,
00:10:49.420 Cruz is attacking
00:10:50.380 single moms.
00:10:51.460 No,
00:10:51.640 I'm not.
00:10:52.960 I'm saying that kids
00:10:54.080 do better with dads.
00:10:55.800 Look,
00:10:56.080 I've got a family
00:10:56.760 that has a lot
00:10:57.360 of single moms in them.
00:10:58.460 Single moms are heroic
00:10:59.820 and extraordinary people.
00:11:02.720 I just wish
00:11:03.380 there didn't have to be
00:11:04.480 so many single moms.
00:11:05.900 I wish moms had the help
00:11:07.580 of a father
00:11:09.740 who was a husband
00:11:10.680 and a loving helpmate
00:11:13.320 in raising children
00:11:16.060 that are loved
00:11:17.840 and appreciated
00:11:19.040 and valued
00:11:20.040 and not psychopathic monsters.
00:11:22.940 I always thought
00:11:23.960 the gun control arguments
00:11:25.380 were incoherent
00:11:26.320 from the same people
00:11:27.380 who tell us
00:11:27.920 that the cops are racist
00:11:29.120 and they go around
00:11:30.040 plucking off people,
00:11:31.240 innocent people
00:11:31.900 because of their skin color.
00:11:33.060 The cops are racist.
00:11:33.980 The cops are terrible.
00:11:34.780 That's why they should
00:11:35.300 have all the guns.
00:11:35.980 That never made a lot of sense.
00:11:37.360 But now in the wake
00:11:38.200 of the shooting in Texas,
00:11:39.540 you're hearing many people
00:11:41.240 say that the police response
00:11:42.460 was incompetent,
00:11:43.420 that the police response
00:11:44.440 was cowardly.
00:11:45.580 Again,
00:11:45.880 I'm sure there will be
00:11:46.460 an investigation
00:11:47.000 to go through
00:11:47.740 what actually happened there.
00:11:49.000 But if that is the case,
00:11:50.320 you're telling me
00:11:51.220 that we can't rely
00:11:53.160 on the cops
00:11:53.680 to protect ourselves.
00:11:54.680 So isn't that
00:11:55.560 an even more robust defense
00:11:58.120 of self-defense,
00:11:59.760 of the Second Amendment,
00:12:00.900 of our right to keep
00:12:01.820 and bear arms in America?
00:12:03.320 I'm just really glad
00:12:04.500 that you stood up
00:12:05.800 and you didn't let them
00:12:06.380 bully you
00:12:06.800 and you didn't cancel the speech
00:12:08.620 because I think it's a message
00:12:09.820 that people really needed to hear.
00:12:11.280 Michael,
00:12:11.700 the point you're making there
00:12:12.880 also is an important one,
00:12:15.440 which is if you look
00:12:16.780 in the last couple of years,
00:12:18.160 we've seen gun ownership
00:12:19.400 going up.
00:12:20.860 And one of the major causes
00:12:22.460 of that was in 2020,
00:12:24.100 the Antifa
00:12:24.720 and Black Lives Matter
00:12:25.860 riots all across the country
00:12:28.180 where you had
00:12:29.220 Democratic politicians
00:12:30.440 that refused to enforce the law,
00:12:32.200 that ordered the police
00:12:33.100 to stand down,
00:12:34.080 that wouldn't protect
00:12:34.980 people's homes,
00:12:35.760 that wouldn't protect
00:12:36.480 people's businesses,
00:12:37.640 that wouldn't stop looters,
00:12:39.380 that wouldn't stop
00:12:40.240 firebombs from being thrown,
00:12:42.560 that allowed lawless rioters
00:12:45.980 to declare so-called
00:12:47.460 autonomous zones,
00:12:49.380 the Chaz and the Chad,
00:12:51.140 for weeks on end.
00:12:56.060 When you have
00:12:57.180 Democrat politicians
00:12:58.360 who say,
00:12:59.380 we won't let the police
00:13:00.740 protect you,
00:13:02.720 it's not surprising
00:13:03.980 that people make the decision,
00:13:05.400 well, heck,
00:13:05.820 I'm going to protect myself
00:13:07.520 if there's going to be
00:13:08.580 a mob in the street
00:13:10.480 with violence
00:13:11.480 as their objective,
00:13:14.900 especially if the cops
00:13:16.540 aren't there to protect me,
00:13:18.400 that's when I definitely
00:13:19.680 need to keep my
00:13:21.140 my family safe,
00:13:22.420 and all the more irony
00:13:23.900 that these same politicians
00:13:26.180 who were singing
00:13:29.240 the praises
00:13:30.120 of violent rioters
00:13:32.280 and people committing assaults
00:13:33.840 and firebombings
00:13:34.840 and even murders,
00:13:37.500 you know,
00:13:37.940 these Democrat politicians,
00:13:39.460 Kamala Harris,
00:13:40.340 raised money
00:13:41.260 to bail these violent rioters
00:13:43.140 out of jail,
00:13:43.960 and now they're suddenly saying
00:13:46.040 how morally righteous they are
00:13:47.500 because they're opposed to crime.
00:13:48.700 Well,
00:13:49.560 you don't get to have it
00:13:51.520 both ways.
00:13:52.200 You don't get to celebrate
00:13:53.180 violent criminals
00:13:54.020 and then say,
00:13:54.680 oh, by the way,
00:13:55.580 you guys can't defend yourself
00:13:57.780 when those violent criminals
00:13:58.960 commit horrific acts
00:14:00.460 that,
00:14:00.840 unfortunately,
00:14:03.220 their relentless
00:14:04.960 anti-police rhetoric
00:14:06.400 helped fuel and cause.
00:14:08.900 Speaking of corruption
00:14:10.180 in the criminal justice system,
00:14:11.680 I do have to get your take
00:14:12.980 on something
00:14:13.400 on a completely separate topic
00:14:14.940 that just came out today,
00:14:16.760 though,
00:14:16.920 which is the case
00:14:18.260 of Michael Sussman,
00:14:19.760 this Clinton lawyer
00:14:21.200 who lied to the FBI
00:14:23.640 who planted the whole Russia hoax
00:14:26.000 apparently at the direction
00:14:27.180 of Hillary Clinton.
00:14:28.660 We saw the evidence.
00:14:30.140 We saw the correspondence.
00:14:33.080 And yet today,
00:14:34.040 the judge let the guy off the hook.
00:14:36.200 I should clarify, too,
00:14:37.160 it wasn't just the judge
00:14:38.200 that let him off the hook.
00:14:39.020 It was the jury,
00:14:40.040 apparently.
00:14:40.880 So it's not all the judge's fault.
00:14:42.520 Well, and it's,
00:14:44.640 you know,
00:14:44.840 the facts of it,
00:14:45.840 this lawyer worked
00:14:47.620 for Hillary Clinton's
00:14:48.540 campaigns law firm
00:14:49.680 and he reached out
00:14:50.940 to the FBI
00:14:51.600 and said,
00:14:52.480 hey,
00:14:53.300 I've got information
00:14:54.460 that Trump is involved
00:14:57.080 with the Alpha Bank
00:14:58.220 in Russia
00:14:58.720 and the Trump campaign
00:14:59.880 is colluding with Russia.
00:15:03.020 And he goes out of his way
00:15:04.700 to say,
00:15:05.080 I'm not doing this
00:15:05.840 on behalf of any client.
00:15:07.020 I'm not working for anyone.
00:15:09.600 I'm just being a good citizen.
00:15:10.900 I'm just a good Samaritan.
00:15:12.240 I love America.
00:15:13.380 Rah, rah, rah.
00:15:15.100 So he reaches out
00:15:16.400 to the top brass
00:15:17.300 at the FBI
00:15:17.980 under Obama
00:15:18.780 and meets with them
00:15:20.220 and affirmatively represents him.
00:15:22.920 Now, what he told them
00:15:23.700 was nonsense
00:15:24.480 and it was the beginning
00:15:25.360 of the whole Russia hoax
00:15:26.660 and all of that nonsense.
00:15:29.240 But his statement,
00:15:30.700 I'm not doing it
00:15:31.520 on behalf of any client,
00:15:33.680 was a flat-out lie.
00:15:35.220 He was doing it
00:15:36.340 on behalf of the Hillary Clinton campaign
00:15:37.980 and the DNC.
00:15:38.880 And of course,
00:15:40.300 being a lawyer,
00:15:41.780 he billed for it.
00:15:44.100 So he literally sent
00:15:45.480 the Hillary Clinton campaign
00:15:47.020 a bill
00:15:47.900 charging his time
00:15:50.020 for the time
00:15:50.820 meeting with the FBI
00:15:52.040 to tell them
00:15:54.240 about the Russia hoax
00:15:55.280 when he told the FBI
00:15:56.460 he wasn't doing it
00:15:57.340 on behalf of a client.
00:15:58.340 Somehow the client,
00:15:59.120 he certainly was going
00:15:59.760 to get paid for it
00:16:00.660 because he is a lawyer
00:16:01.780 after all.
00:16:02.280 If you're going
00:16:03.020 to be implicated
00:16:03.720 in a crime,
00:16:05.120 don't you think
00:16:05.820 it's worth taking
00:16:06.680 that, you know,
00:16:07.660 18 minutes on the arm?
00:16:09.120 Do you really need
00:16:09.780 to charge
00:16:10.240 in the six-minute increments
00:16:11.360 for when you're
00:16:12.120 committing a crime?
00:16:13.020 So I will confess, Michael,
00:16:14.440 when I was practicing law
00:16:15.780 and one of the things
00:16:16.900 I do not miss
00:16:17.840 about private practice
00:16:19.580 is having to think
00:16:20.540 of my day
00:16:21.040 in six-minute increments,
00:16:22.500 I would literally
00:16:24.020 take a legal brief
00:16:25.820 or a case with me
00:16:27.040 when I went
00:16:28.220 to the restroom
00:16:28.920 because I'd stand
00:16:29.760 at the urinal
00:16:30.360 and be reading
00:16:31.060 because I wanted
00:16:31.600 to bill for the time
00:16:32.580 and it is,
00:16:34.360 I understand
00:16:35.820 that sentiment.
00:16:37.700 And by the way,
00:16:38.620 there'd be three
00:16:39.280 other lawyers
00:16:40.140 standing there
00:16:40.760 holding a brief
00:16:41.440 reading at the urinal too
00:16:42.820 because none of us
00:16:44.060 wanted to miss
00:16:44.740 billing the time.
00:16:46.020 Two things
00:16:46.580 on the Sussman case.
00:16:47.720 Number one,
00:16:48.520 the judge severely
00:16:50.500 limited what the prosecutors
00:16:52.140 could introduce
00:16:52.880 into evidence.
00:16:54.340 So they severely
00:16:55.440 limited the broader
00:16:57.160 context of what
00:16:58.380 the Clinton campaign
00:16:59.360 was doing,
00:17:00.180 pushing the Russia
00:17:00.900 hoax and everything
00:17:02.080 they were doing
00:17:02.580 in the press,
00:17:03.220 that this was part
00:17:04.160 of a long,
00:17:05.060 concerted scheme.
00:17:07.240 The judge kept
00:17:08.020 almost all of that out
00:17:09.100 and it was a very
00:17:10.480 circumscribed,
00:17:11.800 narrow,
00:17:12.400 factual,
00:17:13.480 you said X,
00:17:14.600 was X true,
00:17:15.780 is how the prosecutor
00:17:17.280 had to present it
00:17:17.980 to the jury.
00:17:20.880 I think there are
00:17:21.880 real questions
00:17:22.760 that should be asked
00:17:23.840 why the judge
00:17:24.540 was keeping
00:17:24.960 all that context out.
00:17:26.160 What it did
00:17:26.820 is it protected
00:17:28.300 Hillary Clinton
00:17:28.900 like crazy.
00:17:29.640 Like all of the judges'
00:17:30.700 orders basically
00:17:31.940 kept the Hillary campaign
00:17:33.700 directly from being
00:17:34.920 implicated and just
00:17:36.400 had one rogue lawyer,
00:17:37.700 well, you're going
00:17:38.180 to be in trouble.
00:17:39.540 But then the jury,
00:17:41.100 look, the jury is from
00:17:42.080 the District of Columbia.
00:17:43.120 District of Columbia
00:17:44.060 votes, you know,
00:17:45.160 90% plus Democrat.
00:17:46.740 I have not studied
00:17:51.020 all of the factual
00:17:53.000 evidence introduced
00:17:53.940 in trial,
00:17:54.660 but it certainly
00:17:55.440 raises an eyebrow
00:17:56.540 that this is a jury
00:17:58.720 that's in all likelihood
00:18:02.700 voted for Hillary Clinton
00:18:05.100 and hates Donald Trump.
00:18:06.360 And we have seen
00:18:07.700 in cases that are brought
00:18:09.080 in D.C.,
00:18:10.600 we've seen them
00:18:11.220 be political the other way,
00:18:12.500 that they're quite happy
00:18:13.300 to throw the book
00:18:14.700 at someone if they disagree
00:18:15.780 with the politics of it.
00:18:17.000 It certainly raises
00:18:17.960 a real question
00:18:19.000 in this case
00:18:20.980 whether at least
00:18:21.960 some members of the jury
00:18:22.900 didn't happen to just
00:18:24.000 like the politics
00:18:26.240 of the guy
00:18:27.060 who was violating the law.
00:18:29.700 It just makes people think
00:18:31.240 that there are
00:18:32.420 two separate
00:18:33.540 justice systems,
00:18:34.640 you know,
00:18:35.080 that we hear ad nauseum
00:18:36.820 about a guy
00:18:37.520 who cracks a Coors Light
00:18:38.700 in the Capitol Rotunda.
00:18:40.200 He's the worst terrorist,
00:18:41.460 insurrectionist
00:18:42.080 in the history
00:18:42.520 of our country,
00:18:43.380 throw him in isolated,
00:18:45.400 an isolated cell
00:18:46.540 and throw away the key.
00:18:47.720 Meanwhile,
00:18:48.220 you've got a guy
00:18:49.140 who at the direction
00:18:50.900 of the Democrat
00:18:52.060 presidential nominee
00:18:53.020 is lying to the FBI
00:18:55.020 about a matter
00:18:56.200 of what could potentially
00:18:57.460 be national security
00:18:58.580 and then undermining,
00:19:00.200 trying to rig
00:19:00.660 a presidential election,
00:19:01.980 undermining the actual presidency
00:19:03.420 and the guy gets off the hook
00:19:04.920 and the campaign
00:19:05.540 gets off the hook
00:19:06.300 and you think
00:19:06.920 where's the justice?
00:19:08.180 Well,
00:19:08.420 and I'll tell you
00:19:09.180 what is really worrisome
00:19:10.880 is I'm concerned
00:19:12.440 that Merrick Garland,
00:19:13.880 the attorney general,
00:19:15.360 is going to use
00:19:16.160 this verdict
00:19:16.760 as an excuse
00:19:17.560 to fire John Durham.
00:19:19.200 Like,
00:19:19.500 they want to end
00:19:20.340 this investigation.
00:19:22.060 It's the one
00:19:23.120 sort of lingering,
00:19:24.340 they want to sweep
00:19:25.540 under the rug
00:19:26.420 what is coming.
00:19:29.000 You know,
00:19:29.240 my next book
00:19:30.020 that's coming out
00:19:30.660 in September
00:19:31.200 is called
00:19:32.000 Justice Corrupted,
00:19:33.760 how the left
00:19:35.220 politicized
00:19:36.900 our legal system
00:19:37.700 and then it talks
00:19:38.720 at great length
00:19:39.520 about how
00:19:40.480 Barack Obama
00:19:41.940 and now Joe Biden
00:19:42.860 are using the legal system
00:19:44.200 to target their political enemies.
00:19:45.700 It talks about
00:19:46.180 what you just said,
00:19:47.420 the differential treatment
00:19:48.700 used to
00:19:50.080 January 6th defendants
00:19:51.800 compared to
00:19:52.940 the violent rioters
00:19:54.280 in Antifa
00:19:54.860 and Black Lives Matter riots
00:19:57.200 and I've been pressing
00:19:58.600 this Justice Department
00:19:59.780 for over a year on that
00:20:01.540 and they just stonewall,
00:20:02.440 they refuse to answer questions,
00:20:03.860 they refuse
00:20:04.420 even the barest oversight
00:20:07.000 and you're right,
00:20:09.380 it does suggest
00:20:10.360 that there is
00:20:12.380 a disparate,
00:20:13.960 partisan,
00:20:15.420 uneven enforcement
00:20:16.540 of justice,
00:20:17.400 number one,
00:20:18.220 but number two,
00:20:19.560 I'm very concerned
00:20:20.800 that Garland
00:20:23.540 will use this
00:20:24.360 as an excuse
00:20:25.220 to say,
00:20:25.880 okay,
00:20:26.260 Durham's done
00:20:26.820 and that would be terrible
00:20:28.880 if that happens
00:20:29.640 but I think
00:20:31.740 that is a very real possibility
00:20:33.840 because there is no doubt
00:20:35.540 the Biden White House
00:20:36.920 wants the Durham investigation
00:20:38.420 over yesterday.
00:20:41.000 I suppose my fear then though
00:20:42.640 is let's say Durham
00:20:44.180 gets to keep pursuing
00:20:45.500 the investigation,
00:20:47.040 do we have any hope
00:20:48.040 for justice?
00:20:48.920 I mean,
00:20:49.160 we thought Durham
00:20:50.200 had this guy,
00:20:51.060 we thought Durham
00:20:51.700 had the Clinton campaign
00:20:53.440 and so if he couldn't
00:20:54.680 get Sussman,
00:20:55.900 is there any hope
00:20:57.220 that we're ever
00:20:57.760 going to see any justice
00:20:59.000 even if Durham
00:20:59.900 does get to keep his job?
00:21:01.660 Well,
00:21:01.980 I don't know,
00:21:02.800 I think there is
00:21:04.100 power to sunlight
00:21:07.200 and transparency
00:21:08.340 and exposing the crimes.
00:21:11.460 You know,
00:21:11.620 if you think about
00:21:12.700 Crossfire Hurricane
00:21:13.820 and the absolute
00:21:15.780 illegal abuses
00:21:16.800 of power
00:21:17.400 carried out
00:21:18.040 by the Obama
00:21:18.700 Justice Department,
00:21:20.540 they never thought
00:21:21.260 they'd get caught.
00:21:22.440 They thought Hillary
00:21:23.460 would win
00:21:24.060 in which case
00:21:24.700 it would all be buried
00:21:25.620 and nothing would come
00:21:26.660 to light.
00:21:27.840 It's only the accident
00:21:29.180 from their perspective
00:21:31.180 that their candidate
00:21:32.620 who they were trying
00:21:33.340 to do everything
00:21:33.820 they could
00:21:34.480 to ensure she won
00:21:36.120 lost,
00:21:37.320 that you suddenly
00:21:38.300 had the mechanism
00:21:40.740 in place
00:21:41.340 to provide at least
00:21:42.220 some modicum
00:21:43.160 of sunlight.
00:21:44.300 Well,
00:21:44.960 there shockingly
00:21:45.820 is a little bit
00:21:46.760 of justice
00:21:47.180 coming out
00:21:47.660 of a liberal
00:21:48.080 institution
00:21:48.780 in America.
00:21:49.980 I wanted to get
00:21:50.420 your thoughts on it.
00:21:51.660 Have you seen
00:21:52.140 Top Gun yet?
00:21:53.120 I have.
00:21:53.600 I saw it yesterday.
00:21:54.640 It is awesome.
00:21:56.020 It is spectacular.
00:21:58.100 Did you see
00:21:58.520 the back of the jacket?
00:21:59.300 They put Taiwan back.
00:22:01.180 They put Taiwan back.
00:22:02.300 They put Japan back.
00:22:03.340 And this is fantastic.
00:22:04.720 All right,
00:22:04.860 so folks
00:22:05.400 who don't know
00:22:06.720 the backstory of this,
00:22:08.680 when the Top Gun sequel
00:22:10.880 was being made,
00:22:12.520 they edited
00:22:13.280 the back of Maverick's jacket.
00:22:15.000 And the back of Maverick's jacket
00:22:16.240 had the Taiwanese flag
00:22:17.680 and the Japanese flag.
00:22:18.980 And they erased it.
00:22:19.980 They took them out.
00:22:21.120 And so in the trailer
00:22:22.020 that came out,
00:22:22.880 oh, I don't know,
00:22:23.260 a year ago,
00:22:24.640 the two flags were gone.
00:22:26.020 And it was obvious
00:22:27.140 why they did so,
00:22:28.280 which is that they were worried
00:22:29.620 about the Chinese censors.
00:22:30.920 And the Chinese censors
00:22:32.000 don't refuse to acknowledge
00:22:34.100 that Taiwan exists.
00:22:36.120 And so Hollywood
00:22:37.040 was trying to sell
00:22:38.260 the movie in China.
00:22:39.400 It's a big movie market.
00:22:41.200 I actually introduced
00:22:42.600 legislation
00:22:43.320 to address
00:22:45.480 Chinese censorship
00:22:47.500 of American movies.
00:22:48.680 And it's legislation
00:22:49.520 that's called
00:22:49.980 the Script Act.
00:22:50.720 And what the Script Act
00:22:52.700 says is
00:22:54.360 that
00:22:55.940 so a lot of movies
00:22:57.900 and Top Gun's
00:22:58.500 a great example,
00:22:59.300 a lot of movies
00:23:00.020 use
00:23:01.020 U.S. government assets.
00:23:02.680 So Top Gun
00:23:03.300 used F-18s.
00:23:04.840 It used aircraft carriers.
00:23:05.920 It used
00:23:06.440 billions of dollars
00:23:08.660 of federal government assets
00:23:10.040 to make the movie.
00:23:12.120 And that happens a lot.
00:23:13.240 Anytime you're using
00:23:14.120 military equipment,
00:23:15.000 anytime you're
00:23:15.520 at the Border Patrol,
00:23:16.420 there are lots of times
00:23:17.320 where you're using
00:23:18.620 government assets
00:23:19.460 to make a movie.
00:23:20.740 And what the Script Act
00:23:21.980 says is that
00:23:22.840 no movie maker
00:23:23.640 could use
00:23:24.260 federal government assets
00:23:25.520 if they allow
00:23:27.600 the Chinese communist
00:23:28.660 government
00:23:29.180 to censor their movie.
00:23:30.820 So it doesn't
00:23:31.860 try to prevent
00:23:32.780 if you want to let
00:23:33.480 the Chinese censor you,
00:23:34.520 you can.
00:23:35.900 But the federal government
00:23:36.900 is not going to
00:23:37.520 subsidize your efforts
00:23:38.740 to produce
00:23:40.080 Chinese censored movies
00:23:42.480 by allowing you
00:23:44.560 access to
00:23:45.660 federal government assets.
00:23:47.620 I stood on
00:23:48.580 the Senate floor
00:23:49.320 and I lit into Hollywood
00:23:50.800 over exactly this issue.
00:23:52.640 Top Gun
00:23:53.260 censoring the jacket
00:23:55.140 on the back
00:23:55.860 of Maverick's jacket.
00:23:58.500 I said,
00:23:58.880 look,
00:23:59.180 you know,
00:23:59.420 now Maverick
00:24:00.400 is afraid
00:24:01.540 of the Chinese communists.
00:24:02.820 What the hell
00:24:03.300 have we come to?
00:24:05.060 And I got to say
00:24:06.140 it was beautiful yesterday
00:24:07.600 watching the movie.
00:24:08.560 He pulls on the jacket
00:24:09.800 and there they were,
00:24:10.720 the Taiwanese flag
00:24:11.780 and the Japanese flag.
00:24:13.600 I don't ever say this,
00:24:15.000 but Paramount Pictures
00:24:16.780 did the right thing.
00:24:18.940 I don't ever praise
00:24:19.760 Hollywood,
00:24:21.040 but they grew
00:24:23.080 a backbone
00:24:23.660 and they stood up
00:24:24.880 to the Chinese
00:24:25.580 communists
00:24:26.340 and amen,
00:24:27.400 hallelujah,
00:24:28.660 Top Gun,
00:24:29.400 Kill the Bad Guys,
00:24:30.640 awesome movie.
00:24:31.940 Well,
00:24:32.220 it might have been
00:24:32.680 a little bit of stick
00:24:34.200 as well as a little bit
00:24:35.220 of carrot.
00:24:35.840 You know,
00:24:36.080 if you're proposing
00:24:36.740 legislation that says
00:24:38.040 we're going to make it
00:24:38.940 much harder for you
00:24:39.780 to make these movies
00:24:40.620 if you throw us
00:24:41.760 and our allies
00:24:42.260 under the bus,
00:24:43.100 I don't want to sound
00:24:44.340 cynical here or jaded.
00:24:46.400 Maybe that had something
00:24:47.400 to do with the decision.
00:24:48.680 By the way,
00:24:49.140 do you know how they do
00:24:49.820 the aerial scenes
00:24:50.640 in Top Gun?
00:24:51.560 So I watched
00:24:52.580 a couple of days ago
00:24:53.520 a thing on YouTube
00:24:54.260 where they were describing it.
00:24:55.340 So they're in actual F-18s
00:24:57.220 and essentially
00:24:58.760 when they're in the aerial seats,
00:25:00.480 the actors are in
00:25:01.740 the second seat.
00:25:03.060 So the front,
00:25:03.660 you know,
00:25:03.800 there are two seats
00:25:04.400 in an F-18.
00:25:05.220 The front seat
00:25:05.840 is the pilot
00:25:06.440 and is the actual
00:25:07.700 presumably Navy pilot
00:25:09.280 who's flying the jet
00:25:11.460 and doing all the maneuvers
00:25:12.560 and in the second seat
00:25:13.660 is the actor
00:25:14.420 who's meant to be the pilot
00:25:15.560 but all of the like
00:25:17.060 face being smushed back,
00:25:18.580 those are real G-forces.
00:25:19.860 I mean,
00:25:20.100 they're like,
00:25:21.180 they're going through
00:25:22.680 all of that
00:25:24.900 and what's fake
00:25:25.900 is when they're moving
00:25:26.620 the stick up and down
00:25:27.580 and the controls,
00:25:29.020 they don't actually
00:25:29.700 have the controls
00:25:30.460 it's the real pilot
00:25:31.380 doing it
00:25:32.020 but it is real
00:25:32.860 that they're in the F-18
00:25:33.880 and the footage
00:25:35.460 is actual fighter jets
00:25:37.400 flying through the air
00:25:38.340 and it's really cool.
00:25:40.120 I don't doubt anything
00:25:41.540 that Tom Cruise
00:25:42.360 does in movies.
00:25:43.160 I'm expecting him
00:25:43.860 to walk on Mars
00:25:44.820 in the next Top Gun.
00:25:46.540 So that'll be something
00:25:47.140 to look forward to.
00:25:48.060 Senator,
00:25:48.520 before I let you go,
00:25:49.620 I do have to get to
00:25:51.060 speaking of Hollywood,
00:25:52.820 some criticism
00:25:53.540 that has come out
00:25:54.400 from you.
00:25:55.540 Verdict has been
00:25:56.340 in the news
00:25:56.880 everywhere.
00:25:58.160 I get alerts
00:25:58.820 for this show.
00:25:59.660 The alerts
00:26:00.140 have been blowing up.
00:26:01.180 You got in big,
00:26:02.580 big trouble, sir,
00:26:04.480 because you made
00:26:05.740 the audacious claim
00:26:07.300 that you like hot women.
00:26:10.700 You made the claim
00:26:11.560 that some women
00:26:12.080 are beautiful.
00:26:12.600 You didn't understand
00:26:13.400 how the guy from SNL
00:26:15.000 could pick up
00:26:15.560 the hot chicks.
00:26:16.760 So amid all
00:26:18.440 of the barrage
00:26:19.200 of criticism
00:26:19.760 from the liberal media here,
00:26:20.940 do you still stand
00:26:21.920 by that outrageous statement?
00:26:25.100 Beautiful women
00:26:25.960 are awesome.
00:26:27.780 I will say
00:26:28.860 I was amused
00:26:29.700 to see Verdict
00:26:30.680 became the subject
00:26:32.880 of The View.
00:26:33.900 They sat there
00:26:34.780 and, you know,
00:26:37.460 were blasting us
00:26:38.960 for that segment.
00:26:41.240 And in particular,
00:26:42.620 so I, you know,
00:26:43.440 I talked about
00:26:44.080 how did Pete Davidson
00:26:45.080 get Kate Beckisdale.
00:26:48.460 I guess it's
00:26:49.320 Beckis Sale.
00:26:50.180 There's no D in it,
00:26:51.260 so I mispronounced
00:26:52.180 her name.
00:26:53.580 And they went on
00:26:55.000 and, you know,
00:26:57.600 the women on The View
00:26:58.700 were attacking me.
00:26:59.800 I think they said
00:27:00.420 I was creepy and gross
00:27:02.600 or I don't know.
00:27:03.080 It was some sort of
00:27:03.820 insults,
00:27:05.460 which I couldn't help
00:27:06.540 but respond,
00:27:07.600 well, you know,
00:27:08.400 from such noted experts
00:27:10.540 on sex appeal
00:27:12.100 as Whoopi Goldberg
00:27:14.260 and Anna Navarro.
00:27:15.700 I'm really glad
00:27:16.520 to get their views.
00:27:19.000 All right.
00:27:19.600 So this weekend
00:27:20.520 we had my family in town
00:27:23.880 because we were celebrating
00:27:24.960 Caroline, my eighth grader,
00:27:27.860 graduated eighth grade,
00:27:28.780 going into ninth grade.
00:27:29.880 And so we were celebrating that,
00:27:31.760 but my dad was very unhappy
00:27:33.500 about that segment.
00:27:34.560 So he was in,
00:27:35.100 my dad was in town this weekend.
00:27:36.280 He was very unhappy
00:27:37.200 and he was like,
00:27:38.740 you really shouldn't be talking
00:27:39.880 about those things.
00:27:40.640 You were talking about
00:27:41.700 hot vampire women.
00:27:43.940 I don't think my dad's seen
00:27:45.600 Underworld.
00:27:46.220 And he was like,
00:27:47.880 why are you talking
00:27:48.620 about hot vampire women?
00:27:49.960 And, you know,
00:27:50.600 my father in a Cuban accent
00:27:52.120 and he's a preacher,
00:27:53.400 but he was,
00:27:53.940 he was dismayed.
00:27:55.300 And I'm like,
00:27:56.500 have you not watched
00:27:57.500 Underworld?
00:27:58.260 Because like,
00:27:59.980 that's objective truth
00:28:01.880 as a defense.
00:28:03.140 I actually don't even really
00:28:05.340 get the views criticism
00:28:06.640 because, you know,
00:28:07.460 of course,
00:28:07.960 if you had,
00:28:08.660 if you had said
00:28:09.280 that the women
00:28:09.740 were not beautiful,
00:28:10.760 they'd call you
00:28:11.380 a misogynist
00:28:12.360 and a terrible,
00:28:12.840 they'd find some way
00:28:13.500 to hit you,
00:28:14.120 kind of damned
00:28:14.620 if you do
00:28:14.960 and damned if you don't.
00:28:15.600 But are we at the point
00:28:16.660 of society right now
00:28:18.280 where we're not even
00:28:19.300 allowed to embrace
00:28:21.440 objective standards?
00:28:22.860 We're not even allowed
00:28:23.640 to say that beautiful
00:28:24.480 women are beautiful.
00:28:25.360 What,
00:28:25.640 what have we succumbed to?
00:28:27.600 And by the way,
00:28:28.440 my point was just
00:28:29.460 there's a mismatch
00:28:30.620 that Pete Davidson
00:28:31.540 seems to be batting
00:28:33.200 out of his league.
00:28:34.060 Look,
00:28:34.600 if Tom Cruise,
00:28:35.780 Tom Cruise dates
00:28:36.480 hot women,
00:28:37.020 of course.
00:28:37.560 I mean,
00:28:37.720 the guy's Tom
00:28:38.320 frigging Cruise
00:28:38.880 like that,
00:28:40.100 you know,
00:28:40.440 Brad Pitt,
00:28:41.220 you know,
00:28:41.480 you,
00:28:41.700 you understand,
00:28:43.400 Michael,
00:28:43.700 I will tell you
00:28:44.480 my favorite toast.
00:28:48.020 God bless
00:28:48.980 nearsighted women.
00:28:53.640 That's,
00:28:54.320 maybe that explains it.
00:28:56.340 That might actually,
00:28:57.680 maybe Kim Kardashian
00:28:59.300 and all the rest of them,
00:29:00.140 maybe they just need glasses.
00:29:01.600 Before we go,
00:29:02.240 I also have to get
00:29:02.960 to some mailbags,
00:29:03.860 Senator,
00:29:04.020 because we've got
00:29:04.540 very,
00:29:05.400 very good questions
00:29:06.280 as we always do
00:29:07.200 from our verdict listeners.
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00:29:20.640 This question
00:29:21.480 does relate to gun control.
00:29:22.580 This is from Long Ethernet.
00:29:24.060 Will the Supreme Court
00:29:25.120 strike down
00:29:25.840 standard capacity
00:29:27.060 firearm magazine bans,
00:29:28.860 so greater than
00:29:29.800 10 rounds,
00:29:30.500 say,
00:29:31.060 from California
00:29:31.960 and Washington?
00:29:34.520 I think there's
00:29:35.540 certainly a possibility.
00:29:36.920 There's ongoing
00:29:37.540 litigation on that.
00:29:38.920 And the test
00:29:41.020 that comes
00:29:42.140 from the Heller case,
00:29:43.300 which was the case
00:29:44.220 Heller versus
00:29:45.600 District of Columbia
00:29:46.580 that first
00:29:48.160 clearly established
00:29:49.240 and upheld
00:29:49.840 the Second Amendment
00:29:50.480 right to keep
00:29:51.100 and bear arms,
00:29:52.600 laid out a test
00:29:53.840 about whether
00:29:54.440 a weapon
00:29:55.040 and the same
00:29:55.540 would apply
00:29:55.920 to ammunition
00:29:56.560 is in common usage
00:29:59.560 for self-defense
00:30:01.820 by American citizens.
00:30:04.540 In that instance,
00:30:05.760 what the court
00:30:06.320 struck down in D.C.
00:30:07.640 was a ban
00:30:08.780 on handguns
00:30:10.860 and on
00:30:12.620 functioning long guns
00:30:13.780 on rifles
00:30:14.580 and shotguns,
00:30:17.280 both of which
00:30:17.720 were required
00:30:18.260 to be disassembled
00:30:19.100 or have trigger locks
00:30:20.120 on them at all times.
00:30:21.680 The argument
00:30:22.640 with regard
00:30:23.960 to ammunition
00:30:24.780 would be the same thing
00:30:25.860 that it is
00:30:26.280 in common usage
00:30:27.380 by individuals
00:30:29.860 to defend their homes
00:30:31.160 and defend their families.
00:30:34.420 That's being litigated.
00:30:36.220 My recollection is
00:30:37.860 I think the California ban
00:30:39.340 had been struck down
00:30:40.900 in federal court,
00:30:41.720 although I'm not
00:30:42.260 following the litigation
00:30:43.320 closely,
00:30:43.960 so that's a fuzzy recollection
00:30:46.580 that the mayor
00:30:47.260 may not be right.
00:30:49.740 Whether the court
00:30:50.940 takes it,
00:30:53.060 typically the court
00:30:55.360 will wait
00:30:56.140 for what's called
00:30:56.900 a circuit split
00:30:57.800 to take a case.
00:30:58.840 So the Supreme Court's
00:31:00.800 general view
00:31:01.520 on its docket
00:31:03.120 is that it doesn't
00:31:05.140 engage in error correction.
00:31:06.700 So even if there's
00:31:07.360 a decision
00:31:07.860 of the court below
00:31:08.940 that it thinks is wrong,
00:31:11.240 its job is not
00:31:12.240 to correct wrong decisions.
00:31:15.620 Its job instead
00:31:17.020 is to ensure
00:31:18.300 uniformity of federal law
00:31:20.160 that the answer
00:31:21.240 to a question of law,
00:31:22.780 a federal law,
00:31:23.540 be the same
00:31:24.400 in one part of the country
00:31:25.920 as it is elsewhere,
00:31:26.740 that there not be
00:31:27.460 a patchwork quilt
00:31:29.000 of different legal standards.
00:31:31.120 So for the court
00:31:32.420 to grant a case,
00:31:33.780 there's got to be
00:31:34.760 in almost all circumstances
00:31:36.020 what they call
00:31:36.680 a circuit split,
00:31:38.280 which is multiple
00:31:39.900 courts of appeals
00:31:40.940 addressing the same
00:31:42.200 legal question
00:31:43.040 and coming to
00:31:44.180 different outcomes.
00:31:45.660 And if there's
00:31:46.200 a circuit split,
00:31:47.180 if it's significant
00:31:48.380 and consequential,
00:31:49.700 and if the case
00:31:50.300 provides a good vehicle
00:31:51.400 to address it,
00:31:52.660 then in those instances
00:31:53.880 the court is likely
00:31:55.280 to take it
00:31:55.980 right now
00:31:57.080 there's a pending
00:31:57.800 Second Amendment case
00:31:58.860 before the Supreme Court
00:32:00.060 out of New York
00:32:00.820 dealing with
00:32:02.320 New York's restrictions
00:32:03.340 on carrying guns
00:32:05.700 and it's an argument
00:32:06.800 about the right
00:32:07.500 to keep and bear arms
00:32:08.660 and in particular
00:32:09.360 the right to bear arms,
00:32:11.440 not just to have them
00:32:12.180 in your home,
00:32:12.740 but to actually
00:32:13.420 to carry them
00:32:14.560 for self-defense.
00:32:15.880 That's going to be
00:32:16.840 expected to be
00:32:17.960 one of the big
00:32:18.540 blockbuster decisions
00:32:20.020 in the next month.
00:32:22.300 On the extended
00:32:23.360 magazine size,
00:32:24.520 I don't know
00:32:25.560 if there's a circuit
00:32:26.280 split right now.
00:32:27.260 If there isn't,
00:32:28.420 my guess is the court
00:32:29.420 would wait until
00:32:30.240 a circuit split developed.
00:32:31.520 That makes sense.
00:32:32.800 You had mentioned
00:32:33.900 earlier in the
00:32:35.300 conversation about
00:32:36.560 why these shootings
00:32:37.880 appear to be
00:32:38.440 more prominent now,
00:32:39.480 more prevalent.
00:32:40.180 There's issues
00:32:40.600 beyond the guns,
00:32:41.480 one of which is
00:32:42.240 family breakdown.
00:32:43.300 So we have a question
00:32:44.200 from Ben who asks,
00:32:46.060 would you support
00:32:46.920 a Hungary-style
00:32:48.300 family incentive program?
00:32:50.820 So throughout the West,
00:32:52.560 the birth rates
00:32:54.140 have plummeted.
00:32:54.920 We're below
00:32:55.500 replacement now.
00:32:56.400 Families are falling apart.
00:32:58.240 And Hungary
00:32:59.060 has implemented
00:32:59.720 programs to
00:33:00.500 incentivize people
00:33:01.480 to get married,
00:33:02.540 to have families,
00:33:03.460 to create kids.
00:33:04.240 These are tax incentives,
00:33:05.280 various government subsidies.
00:33:06.860 And it appears
00:33:07.700 to have worked
00:33:08.580 at least modestly,
00:33:10.220 though I know
00:33:10.660 a lot of conservatives
00:33:11.320 recoil at the idea
00:33:12.460 of government
00:33:13.200 basically paying you
00:33:14.620 to have kids.
00:33:15.580 What's your take?
00:33:17.040 Look, I think
00:33:17.960 the objective
00:33:18.680 is a good objective.
00:33:19.820 I would be skeptical
00:33:21.380 of that particular means
00:33:23.100 for implementing it.
00:33:25.300 I think when it comes
00:33:26.960 to federal policy,
00:33:28.160 we should work
00:33:29.560 to limit
00:33:31.120 the harmful consequences.
00:33:32.400 So there have long
00:33:33.440 been disincentives
00:33:34.960 for marriages,
00:33:36.400 what's called
00:33:37.060 the marriage penalty.
00:33:37.980 And I think our tax laws
00:33:39.160 should not disincentivize
00:33:40.740 marriage.
00:33:43.460 There are also
00:33:44.840 work disincentives.
00:33:46.260 So you look at how
00:33:47.100 some of the welfare programs
00:33:48.320 work where people
00:33:49.240 at certain income thresholds,
00:33:51.140 if they go get a job,
00:33:52.880 they end up functionally
00:33:54.320 paying over 100% in taxes
00:33:56.120 because they lose
00:33:57.000 more government benefits
00:33:58.080 than they earn
00:33:58.680 in their job.
00:34:00.540 Those negative
00:34:01.620 tax implications
00:34:03.300 are really problematic.
00:34:04.660 So I think we should not be
00:34:08.220 disincentivizing strong
00:34:10.860 family units.
00:34:13.900 Look,
00:34:14.420 at some level,
00:34:15.220 we do things like
00:34:16.120 we have child tax credits,
00:34:17.940 which are designed
00:34:19.840 to make it easier
00:34:20.720 for families
00:34:21.320 to raise kids.
00:34:22.300 I think those
00:34:23.140 make sense
00:34:24.060 and are an important part
00:34:24.860 of the tax code.
00:34:25.660 You know,
00:34:29.340 I have also
00:34:30.240 seen
00:34:31.020 different proposals
00:34:32.040 for things
00:34:34.180 like
00:34:34.740 a
00:34:35.480 universal
00:34:36.120 savings account
00:34:37.320 for each
00:34:38.640 newborn child
00:34:39.680 that
00:34:40.320 potentially
00:34:41.780 the government
00:34:42.480 would populate.
00:34:43.420 You have a baby
00:34:44.160 and there's
00:34:44.580 a savings account
00:34:45.600 that is populated
00:34:47.460 with a couple
00:34:47.940 thousand dollars
00:34:48.700 that grows
00:34:49.440 and
00:34:50.000 gains in value
00:34:52.240 during the child's life.
00:34:53.280 Some of those ideas
00:34:54.600 I think are interesting.
00:34:55.940 I don't know
00:34:56.300 that they're
00:34:56.900 fully baked yet,
00:34:58.260 but I think
00:34:58.800 they're interesting ideas
00:35:00.100 to think about.
00:35:04.100 I think I would be
00:35:05.320 hesitant to engage
00:35:06.620 in this sort of
00:35:07.600 micro-social
00:35:08.940 engineering.
00:35:10.700 I don't know
00:35:11.540 a lot of details
00:35:12.340 about the Hungary
00:35:13.160 program,
00:35:14.540 but just as you
00:35:15.080 described it,
00:35:16.920 I think there'd be
00:35:18.880 a danger
00:35:19.400 of screwing things up.
00:35:20.780 I think we ought
00:35:21.340 to be doing
00:35:21.960 more
00:35:22.700 to encourage
00:35:23.880 strong families
00:35:24.840 in churches
00:35:25.540 and communities
00:35:26.420 in the private sector.
00:35:29.180 I don't know
00:35:30.200 that we should
00:35:30.760 be entrusting
00:35:31.500 Joe Biden
00:35:32.080 and Kamala Harris
00:35:32.840 with that.
00:35:33.940 Right.
00:35:34.400 There is also
00:35:35.520 a middle ground
00:35:36.220 where one could
00:35:37.500 trust the laboratories
00:35:38.640 of democracy
00:35:39.380 and you see
00:35:40.040 if some sort
00:35:41.360 of program
00:35:41.740 like this
00:35:42.120 works in a state,
00:35:43.020 if it does,
00:35:43.960 great,
00:35:44.380 you consider it
00:35:45.100 at the federal level
00:35:45.820 and if it doesn't,
00:35:47.080 well,
00:35:47.440 you know,
00:35:47.680 too bad for you,
00:35:48.880 Colorado
00:35:49.160 or whatever state,
00:35:50.140 probably not Colorado,
00:35:51.000 would try it out,
00:35:51.380 but that,
00:35:52.660 yeah,
00:35:52.800 it's a very measured
00:35:54.140 take on things.
00:35:55.840 Finally,
00:35:56.520 Senator,
00:35:56.900 very important question
00:35:57.920 from Chris,
00:35:59.300 what is the airspeed velocity
00:36:00.460 of an unladen swallow?
00:36:02.300 Blue or black?
00:36:03.600 There's no way
00:36:04.260 that I can
00:36:04.780 really even clarify
00:36:06.240 this question
00:36:06.800 without falling
00:36:07.380 into all sorts
00:36:08.140 of political
00:36:08.640 incorrectness
00:36:09.460 from Monty Python,
00:36:10.260 so I suppose
00:36:10.920 we should probably
00:36:11.840 just leave it there.
00:36:13.340 There is,
00:36:14.040 of course,
00:36:14.860 more to discuss
00:36:16.320 for the verdict listeners
00:36:17.500 and that is
00:36:18.220 on The Cloak Room
00:36:19.400 with Liz Wheeler.
00:36:20.980 Liz,
00:36:21.240 what will you be
00:36:21.680 talking about?
00:36:22.560 Hi,
00:36:22.760 Michael.
00:36:23.140 Hi,
00:36:23.400 Senator.
00:36:24.080 We're going to
00:36:24.440 build this week
00:36:25.080 on last week's episode
00:36:26.740 of Cloak Room
00:36:27.440 where we talked
00:36:28.000 about the police response
00:36:29.000 or lack thereof
00:36:29.940 in Uvalde
00:36:31.440 at the shooting
00:36:32.080 at the elementary school.
00:36:33.280 This week,
00:36:33.960 we're going to talk
00:36:34.420 about a legal principle
00:36:36.120 underpinning
00:36:37.240 the law enforcement response.
00:36:38.760 It's called
00:36:38.980 Public Duty Doctrine
00:36:40.120 and it's been held
00:36:41.100 by the Supreme Court
00:36:41.860 that police officers,
00:36:42.980 law enforcement officers,
00:36:43.820 actually have no legal duty
00:36:46.900 to respond
00:36:47.960 or to be dispatched
00:36:49.020 or to aid
00:36:49.900 in any situation,
00:36:52.080 any circumstance
00:36:52.660 that they can't be held
00:36:53.620 liable for that.
00:36:54.760 And we're going to talk
00:36:55.200 a little bit about
00:36:55.680 this legal principle
00:36:56.400 because it's kind of shocking,
00:36:58.180 right?
00:36:58.440 It sounds very shocking
00:37:00.500 that police
00:37:01.700 who we count on
00:37:02.820 to respond in emergencies
00:37:04.040 actually have no duty
00:37:05.480 to respond.
00:37:06.260 We're going to talk about
00:37:06.720 how that applies here
00:37:08.160 and how that can be addressed
00:37:09.940 legally to prevent
00:37:10.900 anything like this
00:37:12.200 from happening again
00:37:13.080 in the future.
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