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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- April 22, 2022
The Sweet Air of Freedom, LIVE at University of Alabama
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1 hour and 35 minutes
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Word Count
16,129
Sentence Count
662
Misogynist Sentences
9
Hate Speech Sentences
31
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We are here at the University of Alabama.
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We are here in Tuscaloosa.
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So exciting.
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I gotta say, it is great to be back in America.
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It is.
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We've been in hostile territory on this tour.
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We are back in good old America.
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There's only one thing I'm more excited about.
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I just got a text from a friend of mine.
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This happened about an hour ago.
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I'm just gonna read the text out.
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Wow.
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I'm mid-flight on my way from Newark to Salt Lake City,
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and they just announced on the airplane speaker
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that masks are no longer required.
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Everyone cheered.
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There's a shot we might get freedom back.
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Senator, we so rarely get any good news
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as conservatives these days.
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It's been a pretty tough news cycle.
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This just broke a few hours ago.
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A federal judge,
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a Trump-appointed federal judge,
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young judge who looks like
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she's going to have a great career.
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She just appears to have ended
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the CDC mask mandate
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for public transportation.
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It is spectacular.
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You know, I got to say,
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I flew this afternoon
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from Texas to Alabama.
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I'm pissed.
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She didn't issue a ruling this morning.
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A few hours too late.
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Because I had to wear the bloody mask
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flying here.
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What I love about that text,
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so Michael showed me that text
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right before we walked on,
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is your buddy is a priest.
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So you've literally got a priest
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on a plane texting you,
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holy crap,
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we get to take our masks off.
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He actually followed it up.
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He said,
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the poor guy next to me
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is still asleep.
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Should I just take it off his face?
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I don't,
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that way you can breathe just fine.
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I'm glad you told him no on that one.
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Yeah, that's probably not.
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But this is actually,
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on the one hand,
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this is such great news.
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I'm so excited.
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I've got a flight coming up on Thursday.
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I can't wait to exercise my freedom.
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On the other hand,
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is this what our country has come to?
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That we need to celebrate
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being able to breathe
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without a muzzle on?
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I mean,
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think how asinine this is.
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Two years ago,
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if someone would have suggested
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to everyone here
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that the government's going to step in
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and make a rule
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that everyone has to wear a mask
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every damn moment of the day
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that you can't get on an airplane,
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that you can't get on a train,
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you can't get in the bus,
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you can't get in an Uber
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without putting on a stupid mask.
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Nobody would have believed that.
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I mean,
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it really is an interesting moment.
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You and I were sitting backstage going,
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why are we so damn happy?
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And to be honest,
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on some level,
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maybe the American people
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should have said to heck with this
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and collectively thrown our masks down.
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Yep.
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But the problem is,
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on an airplane,
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they've got a power imbalance.
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If you did that yesterday
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and said to heck with this,
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I'm not going to wear a mask,
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they'd throw you off the plane.
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Yep.
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And they did it to a lot of people.
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The Navy SEAL
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who killed Osama bin Laden,
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you think that guy
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would get a lot of credit in America?
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He'd be able to do
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kind of whatever he wants?
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They booted him off the plane.
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It is...
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By the way,
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killing Osama bin Laden,
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that's kind of a big deal.
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You would think.
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Not enough to let you
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ride mask-free, though.
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You know,
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it is not only that,
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but there was a big push
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to add to the no-fly list
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people thrown off planes
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for not wearing masks.
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Yeah.
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So this is a list
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that's designed for terrorists,
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for people that are,
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you know,
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actually want to hijack planes
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and fly them into buildings
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and murder people.
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We're now going to add
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the guy who shot
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Osama bin Laden,
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arguably,
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because if you failed
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to comply with this mandate,
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you were going to be banned.
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And the argument was
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not even just one airline
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because some people say,
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well,
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they're a private company.
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No,
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what they were urging
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the federal government
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to do is make it
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a no-fly list
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on any airline.
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Yeah.
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That you were forbidden
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if you wanted to go
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to Tuscaloosa,
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any other place
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in the United States
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or across planet Earth,
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you better get a bicycle
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or a car
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or a truck
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or a boat
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because you weren't
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going to be able to fly.
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And that power imbalance
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is, I think, dangerous.
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So I'll take the win
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however we can get it.
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I think I don't want
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to let the perfect
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get in the way
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of the good.
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I don't want to clutch defeat
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from the jaws of victory
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like conservatives
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so often do.
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You know a fair bit
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about the law
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more than I do.
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What was the argument
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here from the judge?
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So the argument,
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this is a district judge
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in Florida,
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federal district judge,
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and it was a group
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of plaintiffs
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who brought a lawsuit.
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A couple of the plaintiffs,
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one said that they suffered
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anxiety from wearing a mask
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and others said
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they weren't flying
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nearly as much
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because they didn't like
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wearing a mask,
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had trouble breathing.
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And the Biden administration
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defended,
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and the argument was,
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does the CDC
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have the authority
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to issue this rule?
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I got to say,
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every time I was on a plane,
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I would hear the flight attendant
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come over the loudspeaker
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and the flight attendant
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would say,
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federal law requires
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you to wear your mask.
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And I'm sitting there
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going,
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wait a second,
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federal law.
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I seem to recall
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for something to be
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federal law,
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there being something
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in the Constitution
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about it passing the House,
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passing the Senate,
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being signed by the President,
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becoming, well,
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you know,
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federal law.
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If I'm not mistaken,
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Senator,
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you are a federal lawmaker.
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Is that right?
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And if that happened,
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I kind of missed it.
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Because we didn't vote on it.
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We didn't have
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any federal law on it.
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What happened?
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Joe Biden issued
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an executive order.
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He got into the White House.
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He issued an order
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that said,
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I think a mask mandate
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is a hot diggity damn good idea.
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Those were his exact words.
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He invoked corn pop, too.
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I don't know what it meant.
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Then he promptly turned
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to shake the hand
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of an imaginary rabbit
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that was next to him.
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Yes, he does.
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He does.
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By the way,
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the imaginary rabbit's right here.
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Good to see you.
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Nice to see you.
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Two weeks later,
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the CDC,
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the bureaucrats
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at the CDC
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put out this new rule,
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except they said,
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uh-uh,
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it's not a rule.
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Because there's actually
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a federal law,
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the Administrative Procedures Act,
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that says if a federal agency
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wants to issue a rule,
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there's a way
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you issue a rule.
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And in particular,
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you put it up
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for notice and comment.
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In other words,
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the agency says,
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okay,
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this is a rule
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we're considering.
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The American people,
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you got 30 days
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to comment on us,
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to tell us,
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is it a good idea,
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is it a bad idea,
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you've got to weigh
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the arguments,
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you've got to weigh
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the evidence.
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And the legal standard
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is that it can't be
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arbitrary or capricious.
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And the federal district
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judge in this case
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has a very reasoned opinion
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that goes through
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in detail
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examining the
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statutory language.
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Number one,
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there's a general statute
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that deals with
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health crises.
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And she says,
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look,
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that statute
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doesn't give
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these broad powers
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to impose
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whether it's
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mask mandates
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or vaccine mandates.
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Or remember,
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the government
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before argued
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that they had
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the power
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to impose
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an eviction moratorium
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to decree,
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if you happen
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to have a rental house,
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if you're renting out
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your garage apartment,
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you can't collect rent.
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Why?
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Because we decree
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it to be so,
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never mind
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the niceties
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of passing a law
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subject to
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democratic accountability.
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And the district judge
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went through
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the statutory language.
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CDC admitted
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it hadn't done
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notice and comment.
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It said,
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well,
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it was an emergency.
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Because they have
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the right,
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according to the
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Administrative Procedures Act,
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to say,
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well,
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we have good cause
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to suspend
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these rules
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because if we didn't
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suspend the rules,
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why mayhem
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would ensue,
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we would not be able
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to take care
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of this public emergency.
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Well,
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and one of the things
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the district court
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said is,
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look,
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this thing
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had been going on
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for over a year.
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COVID infections
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were going down.
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If it was suddenly
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this oh-so-crazy emergency,
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what happened
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the prior year?
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How did you suddenly
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discover it was
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an emergency
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then?
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Yeah.
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And so,
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this decision,
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the end of the decision,
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the district judge
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vacates the rule.
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So,
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as we were sitting
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backstage getting ready
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for the show,
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we were talking about,
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okay,
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what does this mean?
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And like,
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I'm going to fly back
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to Texas tomorrow.
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And I'm like wondering,
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am I going to wear
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the stupid mask or not?
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I really hope
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the answer is no.
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And it was
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an interesting question.
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What is the Biden
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administration going to do?
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And one option
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is appeal,
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and they could still appeal.
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They probably will,
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but maybe not.
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Another option,
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they could conceivably
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try to defy the court.
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But that's a high-risk option
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because the end
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of the district court's order,
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the district court
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vacates the rule.
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So when you vacate the rule,
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you essentially erase it.
00:11:45.780
It doesn't exist.
00:11:46.660
So,
00:11:46.840
because this was the question
00:11:48.000
some of my friends
00:11:48.720
have been asking me.
00:11:49.880
I think my friend
00:11:50.580
who is 30,000 feet
00:11:51.660
probably has answered it
00:11:53.280
practically to some degree.
00:11:54.660
But usually when you talk
00:11:55.740
about your friend
00:11:56.320
30,000 feet,
00:11:57.340
you're talking about
00:11:57.940
the good Lord.
00:11:58.660
But in this case,
00:11:59.280
you're talking about
00:11:59.840
a priest on an airplane.
00:12:01.020
Slightly lower,
00:12:01.960
I would say.
00:12:02.640
That's right.
00:12:03.400
Though not unrelated.
00:12:04.380
There you go.
00:12:05.880
But my friends will ask me,
00:12:07.420
they'll say,
00:12:07.740
okay,
00:12:08.320
so the bureaucracy
00:12:09.560
said this
00:12:10.480
and the judge said this
00:12:12.380
and so,
00:12:13.120
look,
00:12:13.420
I don't care about
00:12:14.000
any of that.
00:12:14.880
Do I have to wear
00:12:15.500
the mask or not?
00:12:16.180
You're saying the ruling
00:12:16.960
actually does erase the rule.
00:12:19.820
So the rule is vacated.
00:12:21.500
It is,
00:12:22.100
it has no force in effect.
00:12:24.380
But the next question
00:12:25.300
was going to be,
00:12:26.120
what are the airlines
00:12:26.700
going to say?
00:12:28.020
Because the airlines
00:12:29.300
are still private companies.
00:12:31.200
They could,
00:12:31.900
in theory,
00:12:32.620
say we're going to
00:12:33.540
require a mask
00:12:34.480
even though the federal law
00:12:35.620
doesn't require it.
00:12:36.320
Remember,
00:12:36.960
we had a mask mandate
00:12:37.920
before that.
00:12:38.720
Early on in COVID,
00:12:40.420
a lot of us flew
00:12:41.300
and you wore masks.
00:12:42.360
There wasn't any federal law.
00:12:43.540
They didn't say
00:12:43.960
federal law required it.
00:12:45.220
It's just the airlines
00:12:46.520
wanted to get people
00:12:47.300
to come on planes
00:12:48.220
and they said,
00:12:48.720
all right,
00:12:48.860
let's put this rule in place
00:12:50.200
because people are scared.
00:12:51.700
It'll let them come on.
00:12:52.740
So conceivably,
00:12:54.680
the airlines could have said,
00:12:55.960
we're going to keep
00:12:56.520
this rule in place.
00:12:58.120
But it's interesting
00:12:59.280
that the debate
00:13:00.460
on this has shifted.
00:13:01.720
So early on,
00:13:04.020
the most vigorous advocates
00:13:06.100
for this rule
00:13:07.320
were the flight attendants union.
00:13:09.000
The union of flight attendants
00:13:10.460
were pushing for it,
00:13:11.940
concerned about safety.
00:13:13.740
That's now shifted.
00:13:14.920
I think a lot of flight attendants
00:13:16.100
are annoyed
00:13:16.760
at being mask police.
00:13:18.420
Their whole job
00:13:19.300
is particularly,
00:13:21.060
have you noticed
00:13:21.840
the flight attendant
00:13:22.600
that's so uptight
00:13:23.840
that literally is between sips?
00:13:25.960
You know,
00:13:26.140
you put your Diet Coke down.
00:13:27.300
Nope,
00:13:27.660
put your mask on.
00:13:28.880
Not only do you,
00:13:30.380
and this is,
00:13:31.200
I find this is the rarity.
00:13:32.780
Usually the flight attendants
00:13:33.920
have been very nice about it.
00:13:35.020
Most of them know
00:13:35.900
it's ridiculous.
00:13:36.900
But that distinct minority...
00:13:38.700
Oh, there's one or two
00:13:39.400
that take it very seriously.
00:13:41.320
And I should point out,
00:13:42.160
Senator, by the way,
00:13:43.460
you are somewhat
00:13:44.360
responsible for this.
00:13:45.580
I'll just call you out
00:13:46.460
right on stage.
00:13:47.840
You were coming out
00:13:48.580
to visit,
00:13:49.020
back when we were in L.A.,
00:13:49.900
you were coming out
00:13:50.360
to visit,
00:13:50.700
we were going to film
00:13:51.300
some episodes together,
00:13:52.860
and you pioneered,
00:13:54.760
you pioneered
00:13:55.340
the coffee cup strategy.
00:13:57.100
So you take one slow sip
00:13:59.560
from your coffee
00:14:00.360
for about four hours
00:14:01.800
at a time,
00:14:02.360
and that way
00:14:03.240
you don't need
00:14:04.180
to wear the mask.
00:14:04.700
And I have to admit,
00:14:06.080
one of the ridiculous things
00:14:08.080
about just sort of
00:14:09.160
the reality
00:14:09.980
of being in the Senate
00:14:11.020
is there's always
00:14:13.380
some jackrabbit,
00:14:18.060
I'm trying to use
00:14:19.900
a PG term.
00:14:20.620
It's a very polite language.
00:14:21.240
Yeah, I'm mellowing
00:14:23.020
my old age,
00:14:24.220
who will try to snap
00:14:25.960
a picture of you.
00:14:27.540
And they want to catch,
00:14:28.580
and by the way,
00:14:29.100
I love the pictures
00:14:30.040
of the Democratic senators
00:14:31.060
who insist on mask mandates
00:14:32.420
for everyone
00:14:32.900
who take their mask off
00:14:34.080
and are happily sitting
00:14:34.720
on planes ignoring it.
00:14:36.260
But I will say
00:14:37.580
one defensive strategy
00:14:39.140
on planes I do.
00:14:40.360
So number one,
00:14:41.040
my mask,
00:14:42.020
which I hope to frame
00:14:43.660
as a relic
00:14:44.240
never to need again,
00:14:45.620
is a Texas mask
00:14:46.800
that says,
00:14:47.260
come and take it.
00:14:47.800
But I'm particularly fond
00:14:55.980
of draping on one ear
00:14:57.420
with a coffee cup.
00:14:58.680
And I can nurse
00:14:59.960
the heck out of a coffee cup.
00:15:01.980
That's in case
00:15:02.620
the coffee spills,
00:15:03.740
the mask will catch it.
00:15:04.680
Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:15:05.760
And in that case,
00:15:06.540
you actually are saying,
00:15:07.400
please, come and take it.
00:15:08.200
I don't want the mask,
00:15:09.060
please, it's yours now.
00:15:10.220
Go on.
00:15:10.660
So, okay.
00:15:12.320
But the airline CEOs
00:15:14.320
recently wrote a letter
00:15:16.080
to the administration,
00:15:16.940
almost all the major CEOs say,
00:15:18.800
okay, please get rid
00:15:19.840
of the mask mandate.
00:15:20.720
Enough already.
00:15:22.800
And that may have shifted
00:15:24.020
the dynamic
00:15:24.660
because what happened
00:15:25.620
this afternoon
00:15:26.400
after the decision
00:15:27.540
is several of the major
00:15:29.720
airline CEOs announced,
00:15:31.260
okay, we're done.
00:15:32.880
And I'm amazed
00:15:33.740
that your friend
00:15:34.840
was on the plane
00:15:36.020
and they're literally announcing
00:15:37.560
it's like the World Series score.
00:15:39.280
Take your damn masks off.
00:15:41.100
The freedom wins.
00:15:42.480
The freedom wins.
00:15:43.360
So I obviously,
00:15:44.960
we've got a few people to thank.
00:15:46.240
I want to thank YAF,
00:15:47.720
as always, for hosting.
00:15:48.920
I want to thank the Logan family
00:15:50.300
for supporting this lecture series.
00:15:53.120
I want to thank this judge
00:15:54.560
for letting me breathe free again.
00:15:56.400
That's going to be great.
00:15:57.420
Judge Mizell.
00:15:58.520
Judge, she is great.
00:15:59.900
I love her.
00:16:00.360
So if any of y'all
00:16:01.640
are going out on the town,
00:16:02.680
I know nobody
00:16:03.500
at the University of Alabama drinks.
00:16:05.080
Nope.
00:16:05.920
Nope.
00:16:07.340
But if,
00:16:08.920
I'm not going to suggest
00:16:10.000
beer or tequila or anything,
00:16:11.860
but if you happen to have
00:16:12.980
some seltzer water,
00:16:15.200
lift a toast
00:16:16.920
to Judge Mizell.
00:16:17.920
Yes.
00:16:18.440
She did great.
00:16:20.060
Thank you.
00:16:20.240
I wish,
00:16:24.400
I wish we didn't need
00:16:26.100
to rely on just one judge
00:16:27.800
to give us our basic freedoms back,
00:16:29.600
but that's the world we're living in.
00:16:30.940
I'll take the win.
00:16:31.860
Yeah.
00:16:31.980
And this,
00:16:32.620
this actually is exactly
00:16:34.200
how I feel
00:16:35.000
about a separate,
00:16:36.500
albeit somewhat related,
00:16:37.480
situation
00:16:38.040
on Twitter.
00:16:39.040
I don't like
00:16:40.380
that we need to rely
00:16:41.380
on one eccentric billionaire
00:16:43.180
to bail us out
00:16:44.600
of this censorship nonsense
00:16:46.580
that the leftist ruling class
00:16:48.360
has foisted on us,
00:16:49.940
but I sure am glad
00:16:50.860
he's doing it.
00:16:51.700
However it's going to work,
00:16:53.120
we need free speech
00:16:54.360
in this country,
00:16:55.220
and if a handful of oligarchs
00:16:56.840
are going to control speech
00:16:57.800
in our republic,
00:16:58.820
then help us, Elon,
00:17:00.000
go on in there
00:17:00.840
and buy out Twitter.
00:17:02.300
So then, Senator,
00:17:03.120
my question to you is,
00:17:04.940
Elon goes in,
00:17:06.460
he tries to buy Twitter,
00:17:07.420
he already has a huge stake,
00:17:08.440
take over 9%,
00:17:09.260
he wants to take over
00:17:11.000
the rest of the company,
00:17:12.260
the Twitter board of directors,
00:17:13.860
as I understand it,
00:17:15.300
pulled a poison pill,
00:17:17.400
they said that they're going
00:17:18.640
to actually crash
00:17:19.820
the value of the shares,
00:17:21.500
so they're going to harm
00:17:21.980
the shareholders,
00:17:23.040
to stop Elon Musk
00:17:24.800
from being able
00:17:25.720
to take over the company,
00:17:27.280
because censoring conservatives
00:17:29.460
is more important to them
00:17:30.640
than maintaining the value
00:17:31.820
of their company.
00:17:33.680
So is it all over?
00:17:35.460
Thankfully, no.
00:17:36.580
All right.
00:17:36.900
Let me say,
00:17:38.240
first of all,
00:17:39.560
this battle right now
00:17:40.980
between Elon Musk
00:17:41.960
and Twitter,
00:17:43.020
I think,
00:17:44.760
it was a funny Freudian slip.
00:17:46.800
I didn't actually mean
00:17:48.060
to say that,
00:17:48.780
but...
00:17:49.260
A Freudian slip
00:17:49.960
is where you say one thing
00:17:50.860
but me and your mother,
00:17:51.560
right?
00:17:51.840
Is that how that goes?
00:17:52.900
I think it is one of the most
00:17:58.200
important moments
00:17:59.140
for free speech
00:18:00.080
in decades.
00:18:02.460
This is a testing moment
00:18:04.120
where big tech
00:18:05.120
keeps getting more
00:18:06.160
and more brazen,
00:18:07.420
saying,
00:18:07.900
we can control
00:18:08.580
everything you say,
00:18:09.880
we can control
00:18:10.680
everything you hear,
00:18:11.780
we can control
00:18:12.380
everything in your feed,
00:18:13.420
we can control
00:18:13.960
everything you listen,
00:18:14.960
we can silence
00:18:15.620
every view we don't like,
00:18:16.960
we can only amplify
00:18:18.060
the views we like.
00:18:19.140
And suddenly,
00:18:21.200
Elon Musk came in
00:18:22.580
and is threatening
00:18:24.520
to tip over
00:18:25.440
the apple cart.
00:18:27.000
And there are
00:18:28.200
lots of aspects to us.
00:18:29.940
I will confess,
00:18:30.940
probably the funniest
00:18:31.960
is the Washington Post,
00:18:35.640
which is wholly owned
00:18:37.580
by Jeff Bezos,
00:18:38.960
wrote an editorial
00:18:41.620
saying it would be
00:18:43.600
bad for democracy
00:18:45.540
for a rich Silicon Valley
00:18:48.080
billionaire
00:18:48.700
to own
00:18:50.020
a means of communication.
00:18:51.720
Well, they admit it.
00:18:52.360
They say,
00:18:52.840
democracy dies in darkness.
00:18:54.840
That's the motto
00:18:55.440
the Washington Post
00:18:56.120
are saying.
00:18:56.400
That's what happened.
00:18:57.060
What's funny is
00:18:57.780
when they wrote it,
00:18:58.500
they meant it as a bad thing.
00:19:00.160
It is now
00:19:01.140
their mission statement,
00:19:02.540
more darkness
00:19:03.920
kill democracy.
00:19:05.960
But, look,
00:19:07.100
so what has happened?
00:19:08.660
Twitter,
00:19:11.000
Elon Musk came in,
00:19:12.820
bought just under 10%.
00:19:14.600
Initially,
00:19:15.860
they offered him
00:19:16.360
a board seat.
00:19:17.380
They said,
00:19:17.720
hey, come join the board.
00:19:19.240
And it was very funny
00:19:20.240
seeing these Twitter engineers
00:19:22.180
losing their mind
00:19:23.540
that he was going
00:19:24.620
to join the board.
00:19:25.420
And then suddenly,
00:19:26.440
Elon said,
00:19:26.800
wait a second.
00:19:28.180
I think I won't
00:19:28.960
join your board.
00:19:30.560
I think I'll buy you.
00:19:31.920
Because there was
00:19:32.500
a condition.
00:19:33.120
If he joined the board,
00:19:34.760
he couldn't buy
00:19:35.920
more than 15%
00:19:37.300
of the company,
00:19:38.040
which means,
00:19:38.840
relatively,
00:19:39.440
he has very little power.
00:19:40.680
Yeah, he could stand
00:19:41.340
there and yell.
00:19:42.020
Yeah.
00:19:42.820
And he's like,
00:19:43.400
wait a second.
00:19:43.960
And I'm richer
00:19:45.680
than all of you guys.
00:19:48.220
Like, you know
00:19:49.400
those electric cars
00:19:50.240
in the parking lot?
00:19:51.860
I made them.
00:19:53.340
By the way,
00:19:54.000
this dude literally
00:19:54.840
launched his car
00:19:55.660
into space.
00:19:56.540
Yeah, that's how you know
00:19:57.400
he means business.
00:19:58.120
You know,
00:19:58.680
he is an unusual guy.
00:20:00.220
I've gotten to know
00:20:00.640
Elon a little bit.
00:20:01.400
And he is,
00:20:02.120
I have not smoked
00:20:03.460
a spliff with him.
00:20:04.360
Not yet.
00:20:05.660
That's Joe Rogan territory.
00:20:06.700
You're more of a cigar guy.
00:20:08.620
I would smoke a cigar with him.
00:20:10.740
I haven't.
00:20:11.240
But Elon,
00:20:12.380
I'll invite you
00:20:12.980
to smoke a cigar anytime.
00:20:16.260
But instead of joining
00:20:18.020
the board,
00:20:18.600
he initially said yes,
00:20:19.580
then he said no.
00:20:20.780
And he put an offer out
00:20:22.040
and he put an offer
00:20:22.800
for substantially more
00:20:24.240
than Twitter shares
00:20:25.260
were trading.
00:20:26.540
$54 a share.
00:20:28.460
And the Twitter board
00:20:29.960
met in emergency session
00:20:31.960
and decided,
00:20:33.200
holy crap,
00:20:34.660
our shareholders
00:20:35.540
making a 40% profit
00:20:38.000
overnight is really bad.
00:20:40.520
We are so committed
00:20:42.180
to censorship,
00:20:43.120
we've got to stop it.
00:20:43.980
And so a poison pill,
00:20:45.400
and this is something
00:20:46.420
that really grew up
00:20:47.360
in the 1980s
00:20:48.320
when you had
00:20:48.680
corporate raiders,
00:20:49.560
a poison pill
00:20:50.420
is a mechanism
00:20:51.600
where a board of directors
00:20:52.840
can vote in
00:20:53.780
a punitive measure.
00:20:56.480
In this case,
00:20:57.960
if any individual
00:20:59.080
acquires more than
00:21:00.160
15% of the stock,
00:21:01.840
the other stockholders
00:21:03.180
can buy more stock
00:21:04.480
at a much cheaper price.
00:21:05.820
And so it basically
00:21:06.640
dilutes the stock
00:21:08.180
and makes it much,
00:21:09.980
much more expensive
00:21:10.740
to buy the company.
00:21:11.480
And in this case,
00:21:12.040
it would be
00:21:12.380
every shareholder
00:21:13.640
of Twitter
00:21:14.120
can buy more stock
00:21:15.460
at a discounted price.
00:21:16.700
Except Elon Musk.
00:21:17.440
Except for Elon Musk.
00:21:18.060
Yeah, no,
00:21:18.460
it is designed
00:21:20.180
to stop the takeover.
00:21:22.260
It's designed
00:21:22.860
to stop people
00:21:23.540
from selling their shares
00:21:24.500
for the higher amount
00:21:25.340
and making the money.
00:21:26.680
But what's interesting,
00:21:28.180
so there are
00:21:28.500
a couple of things.
00:21:29.320
Number one,
00:21:31.240
Elon tweeted
00:21:32.140
three words,
00:21:33.560
Love Me Tender.
00:21:34.820
Great song.
00:21:35.760
Great song.
00:21:36.680
I don't know
00:21:37.180
if he was humming it.
00:21:38.000
I don't know
00:21:38.200
if he had blue suede shoes.
00:21:39.400
But he tweeted
00:21:40.480
Love Me Tender,
00:21:41.460
which everyone took
00:21:42.800
to suggest
00:21:43.680
that his next step
00:21:45.380
may be to make
00:21:46.440
a tender offer,
00:21:47.360
which is a formal offer
00:21:49.360
to all Twitter shareholders,
00:21:51.720
presumably at that price
00:21:53.020
or maybe a higher price,
00:21:54.780
to purchase their shares.
00:21:56.740
Now, a tender offer,
00:21:58.160
you do through
00:21:58.840
a formal filing
00:21:59.760
with the SEC.
00:22:00.540
That's one
00:22:02.280
potential escalation.
00:22:04.160
Although,
00:22:04.960
the tender offer
00:22:05.780
presumably would trigger
00:22:07.040
the poison pill.
00:22:10.520
Secondly,
00:22:11.180
another option
00:22:11.920
he can do
00:22:12.440
that's being widely discussed
00:22:13.680
is he can find
00:22:15.740
a few friends.
00:22:17.320
And you know,
00:22:17.820
when you're the richest man
00:22:18.800
on planet Earth,
00:22:20.280
You're not hanging around
00:22:21.060
with paupers.
00:22:21.960
You can find
00:22:22.860
a few friends.
00:22:23.520
And if, say,
00:22:27.100
he's got three friends,
00:22:28.420
each of whom acquire
00:22:29.480
14.9%,
00:22:30.880
that math adds up
00:22:32.860
to more than 50%,
00:22:34.080
but doesn't trigger
00:22:34.700
the poison pill.
00:22:35.760
So that's one possibility.
00:22:37.640
I know there's been
00:22:38.140
speculation
00:22:38.900
Peter Thiel might join him.
00:22:41.300
Some private equity funds
00:22:42.560
might join him.
00:22:43.580
But if he had a coalition
00:22:44.920
that buys Twitter,
00:22:46.560
that could get
00:22:47.280
to the same place.
00:22:49.320
You could also see lawsuits
00:22:50.580
because one of the
00:22:51.220
amazing things,
00:22:53.100
the Twitter board
00:22:53.840
of directors,
00:22:55.120
other than Jack Dorsey,
00:22:56.300
who's leaving
00:22:56.920
the board of directors,
00:22:58.280
and by the way,
00:22:58.820
the guy really does
00:22:59.720
look like a billy goat
00:23:00.520
under a bridge.
00:23:02.320
Hipster Rasputin,
00:23:03.460
I call him.
00:23:04.140
Like, it's one thing
00:23:05.360
to grow a beard
00:23:06.220
down to your knees,
00:23:07.400
but like,
00:23:07.780
to never comb it?
00:23:08.780
Like, it's really weird.
00:23:10.380
Kind of odd,
00:23:11.820
Eastern Orthodox,
00:23:13.200
Silicon Valley style.
00:23:14.100
Yeah, it is.
00:23:15.740
It's unusual.
00:23:17.140
I met him,
00:23:17.800
but when I met him,
00:23:18.440
he had a soul patch.
00:23:19.180
That's how long ago
00:23:19.800
it's been.
00:23:21.160
That's actually true.
00:23:24.860
But other than Dorsey,
00:23:27.100
almost none of the members
00:23:28.260
of the board of Twitter
00:23:29.220
own any significant stock.
00:23:31.560
Well, this is something
00:23:32.300
that's pretty strange.
00:23:33.700
If you look at the board,
00:23:34.920
and Dorsey is now
00:23:35.660
leaving the board
00:23:36.380
of the company
00:23:37.000
that he co-founded,
00:23:38.280
the amount of Twitter
00:23:39.480
that these board members
00:23:40.420
actually own
00:23:41.140
is minuscule.
00:23:42.000
It's barely anything at all.
00:23:43.400
And this is the other point
00:23:44.380
with Elon.
00:23:45.120
So I hope that the
00:23:46.200
Elon Musk takeover works.
00:23:47.800
I want more
00:23:48.420
Babylon Bee tweets.
00:23:49.580
I want Charlie Kirk
00:23:50.440
to get back on.
00:23:51.460
And really,
00:23:52.260
I need the Trump tweets.
00:23:54.200
I need more.
00:23:55.420
Yes, yes, yes.
00:23:56.560
We need them.
00:23:58.900
It's one of the main reasons.
00:24:00.760
So I want it to work.
00:24:03.180
I want it to work.
00:24:04.620
But even if it doesn't work,
00:24:06.340
one of the things
00:24:07.560
that Elon
00:24:08.740
has already accomplished
00:24:09.800
is he has exposed
00:24:11.820
very serious corruption
00:24:13.700
at Twitter,
00:24:14.740
which is just one
00:24:15.460
of the big tech companies.
00:24:16.340
It's actually
00:24:16.720
the smallest one.
00:24:17.480
It never occurred
00:24:18.440
to me to think,
00:24:19.140
wait,
00:24:20.380
who owns Twitter?
00:24:22.360
Black Rock owns
00:24:23.480
a lot of Twitter.
00:24:24.400
Look,
00:24:24.680
the giant funds
00:24:25.860
and to see Wall Street
00:24:27.220
rush in and say,
00:24:28.320
no,
00:24:28.620
we want to keep
00:24:29.440
the censorship going.
00:24:30.880
Yeah.
00:24:31.340
To see a Saudi prince
00:24:33.020
come in and say,
00:24:33.780
no,
00:24:34.060
no,
00:24:34.200
no,
00:24:34.320
no,
00:24:34.440
no,
00:24:34.520
no,
00:24:35.020
no free speech allowed.
00:24:36.460
Like,
00:24:36.740
what the hell?
00:24:37.620
Wait,
00:24:37.880
since when does
00:24:38.380
Saudi Arabia
00:24:39.020
get to dictate
00:24:39.680
free speech in America?
00:24:40.700
And it is,
00:24:42.280
so the Twitter
00:24:42.960
board of directors
00:24:43.860
just brazenly
00:24:45.440
screws their shareholders.
00:24:47.420
Just says,
00:24:48.140
we like our power more.
00:24:49.780
Now,
00:24:50.400
Twitter is incorporated
00:24:51.540
as a Delaware corporation.
00:24:52.900
A whole bunch of companies
00:24:53.820
in America
00:24:54.240
are incorporated
00:24:54.840
in Delaware.
00:24:55.920
It has corporate law
00:24:57.340
that is very well developed
00:24:58.640
and there's a standard,
00:25:00.140
the general standard,
00:25:01.760
if a shareholder
00:25:02.700
sues the board of directors
00:25:04.380
is what's called
00:25:04.980
the business judgment rule.
00:25:06.580
Okay.
00:25:06.800
And it means,
00:25:07.520
as a general matter,
00:25:08.580
there's a high degree
00:25:09.600
of deference
00:25:10.420
to the decision
00:25:11.840
either the shareholder,
00:25:13.280
the board of directors makes
00:25:14.700
or the company officers make,
00:25:16.740
but there's an exception,
00:25:18.440
a case called
00:25:18.980
the Revlon case
00:25:20.060
that is in the context
00:25:22.140
of a hostile takeover.
00:25:23.620
If it becomes clear
00:25:25.160
that the company
00:25:26.520
is going to be sold,
00:25:27.840
then the board of directors
00:25:30.980
can't just act
00:25:32.100
to protect their own rear ends
00:25:33.420
and keep their own jobs.
00:25:35.000
They have a duty
00:25:36.120
to the shareholders
00:25:36.940
to maximize the price,
00:25:38.140
to get the highest price
00:25:39.300
for the shareholders.
00:25:40.560
So one of the things
00:25:41.620
that may flow out of this
00:25:42.900
is a whole bunch
00:25:44.080
of lawsuits.
00:25:45.560
And, you know,
00:25:46.020
it's striking.
00:25:46.760
One of the board members
00:25:49.040
of Twitter
00:25:49.480
is Bob Zellick.
00:25:51.320
Bob Zellick was the head
00:25:52.500
of the U.S. trade representative
00:25:54.260
under George W. Bush
00:25:55.380
is, I think,
00:25:56.300
the lone Republican
00:25:57.340
on the board.
00:25:58.900
And Elon pointed out,
00:26:00.160
although Bob Zellick
00:26:00.980
is on the board,
00:26:02.360
according to the public records,
00:26:04.340
he has never tweeted
00:26:05.380
once in his life.
00:26:07.480
Does he even know
00:26:08.300
what the company is?
00:26:09.100
He literally,
00:26:10.160
it's like you're
00:26:11.460
on the board
00:26:12.380
of like a dairy
00:26:13.320
and you've never
00:26:13.880
had a glass of milk.
00:26:15.160
Like, it's a little bit weird.
00:26:18.140
Yeah.
00:26:18.880
But it is exposing
00:26:21.160
the fundamental corruption
00:26:22.660
that is at stake.
00:26:23.940
And, you know,
00:26:25.400
I got to say,
00:26:26.900
a lot of folks
00:26:27.640
when it comes to free speech,
00:26:28.980
they say,
00:26:29.740
oh, everybody does it.
00:26:31.880
The left does it,
00:26:32.580
the right does it
00:26:33.200
when it comes to censorship.
00:26:34.800
And that's just not true.
00:26:35.720
In practice,
00:26:36.740
that is not what we've seen.
00:26:38.160
You know, nobody,
00:26:39.060
Elon Musk is not saying,
00:26:40.640
I'm going to buy Twitter
00:26:41.560
and silence all the leftists.
00:26:44.720
He's not saying that.
00:26:45.700
It's not, okay,
00:26:46.520
just my side
00:26:47.300
gets to shut up
00:26:47.940
the other side.
00:26:48.740
He's saying,
00:26:49.340
let everybody talk.
00:26:50.200
Because the fun of Twitter
00:26:51.380
is picking fights
00:26:52.180
with celebrities.
00:26:53.020
So if you got rid
00:26:53.780
of the leftists,
00:26:54.660
what would be the point?
00:26:55.600
It would be unbelievably boring.
00:26:57.260
Yes.
00:26:57.780
You know,
00:26:58.520
it is,
00:26:59.560
it is also interesting,
00:27:03.300
Michael,
00:27:03.620
there's a similarity,
00:27:04.680
I think,
00:27:05.300
between this fight
00:27:06.460
and the mask mandate.
00:27:08.160
In both places,
00:27:09.440
you have private corporations
00:27:11.100
with monopoly
00:27:13.320
or near monopoly positions,
00:27:15.100
whether it is the airlines,
00:27:16.580
you've got an oligopoly,
00:27:17.540
you only have a handful
00:27:18.280
of major airlines.
00:27:19.180
If you want to get
00:27:20.160
from Houston to Tuscaloosa,
00:27:23.220
unless you're willing
00:27:24.140
to get on a car
00:27:25.120
and drive a long way,
00:27:27.340
you've got a handful
00:27:28.020
of options.
00:27:28.960
And those companies
00:27:30.440
have exclusive control
00:27:32.020
over how you can get there.
00:27:33.520
On big tech,
00:27:34.660
Twitter itself
00:27:35.440
is not a monopolist,
00:27:36.600
but if you look
00:27:37.180
at big tech collectively,
00:27:38.680
whether Twitter,
00:27:39.360
Facebook, Google, YouTube,
00:27:41.340
those four companies
00:27:42.640
together control
00:27:44.740
a massive amount
00:27:46.220
of discourse.
00:27:47.140
And we're talking
00:27:48.040
about the flow
00:27:48.760
of 90% plus
00:27:50.320
of information
00:27:51.140
around the internet,
00:27:52.260
which is the public square,
00:27:53.920
which means
00:27:54.660
they're controlling
00:27:55.980
the republic.
00:27:56.680
And a republic,
00:27:57.180
when you speak,
00:27:58.460
when you persuade
00:27:59.120
your fellow citizens,
00:28:00.420
that's how you
00:28:01.020
govern yourself.
00:28:01.900
Well, and all
00:28:02.860
of the lefty blue checks
00:28:04.740
for years said,
00:28:06.840
they're a private company.
00:28:08.500
If you don't like it,
00:28:09.840
build your own.
00:28:10.660
And Elon said,
00:28:11.260
all right,
00:28:11.440
I'll buy them.
00:28:12.060
I bet I buy my own.
00:28:13.040
And they're losing
00:28:14.520
their minds.
00:28:16.860
I mean,
00:28:17.100
to see these
00:28:18.140
so-called journalists,
00:28:19.340
I don't know
00:28:19.580
if you saw,
00:28:20.600
do you ever watch
00:28:21.480
Morning Joe?
00:28:22.680
As little as possible.
00:28:23.920
Nobody does.
00:28:24.820
I mean,
00:28:25.500
I'm not sure
00:28:26.320
they have a viewer.
00:28:27.180
When I'm going
00:28:27.680
through the airport
00:28:28.320
with my little mask on,
00:28:30.080
then I see Morning Joe.
00:28:31.200
Well,
00:28:31.560
Morning Joe,
00:28:32.580
I saw actually
00:28:33.680
a clip on Twitter
00:28:34.460
of Mika saying,
00:28:37.780
look,
00:28:38.120
if Elon does this,
00:28:39.860
big tech,
00:28:40.840
they'll be able
00:28:41.720
to control
00:28:42.400
what people think.
00:28:44.180
That's our job.
00:28:45.980
And she literally,
00:28:47.380
like,
00:28:47.600
oops,
00:28:48.020
said the quiet part
00:28:48.980
out loud.
00:28:49.600
Do you know,
00:28:50.300
so there was a big fact check
00:28:52.320
of this clip
00:28:53.140
that was going around
00:28:54.060
and they said,
00:28:54.660
no,
00:28:54.840
this was manipulated.
00:28:56.380
Actually,
00:28:57.140
the clip is older.
00:28:58.640
It's referring to Donald Trump.
00:29:00.820
And they thought
00:29:01.760
this was a big dunk.
00:29:04.060
The same point holds.
00:29:05.680
She's saying
00:29:06.180
that she is supposed
00:29:06.920
to tell people
00:29:07.480
what to think.
00:29:08.440
And so what we're seeing here
00:29:09.800
is finally someone
00:29:11.240
stepping up and saying,
00:29:12.180
no,
00:29:12.560
we're going to crack
00:29:13.540
this monopoly
00:29:15.120
or oligopoly of power
00:29:16.380
that is censoring
00:29:17.480
half of the country,
00:29:18.700
which it deems deplorable
00:29:19.780
and irredeemable.
00:29:20.440
The corruption runs deep.
00:29:22.200
We're going to expose it.
00:29:23.580
We're going to air it out.
00:29:24.560
We're going to have
00:29:24.840
a free exchange of ideas.
00:29:26.000
Now,
00:29:26.960
speaking of a free exchange
00:29:28.200
of ideas,
00:29:29.260
I know we have lots
00:29:30.420
of brilliant,
00:29:32.520
insightful Alabama students
00:29:34.180
in this room.
00:29:35.020
Should we open up
00:29:35.980
to some Q&A?
00:29:36.980
Absolutely.
00:29:37.780
So let's bring out
00:29:38.520
our friend Liz Wheeler.
00:29:39.940
While Liz comes out,
00:29:41.420
head on over,
00:29:42.240
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00:29:45.080
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00:29:47.300
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00:29:50.460
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00:29:50.840
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00:29:52.960
We've got all sorts of stuff.
00:29:54.340
Make sure you head on over
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00:29:56.100
Liz,
00:29:56.440
do we have any questions
00:29:57.220
from our Verdict Plus members?
00:29:59.240
We do.
00:29:59.880
We do.
00:30:00.380
We have questions
00:30:00.900
from Verdict Plus.
00:30:01.600
We're excited to hear
00:30:02.340
questions from anybody
00:30:03.660
in the audience.
00:30:04.480
If you are a leftist,
00:30:05.600
if you have a challenging question,
00:30:07.260
maybe a question that descents
00:30:08.440
from the viewpoints up here,
00:30:09.420
you can come to the front
00:30:10.360
of the line.
00:30:11.560
Are we ready?
00:30:12.580
I'm ready.
00:30:13.120
Let's go.
00:30:13.420
Let's take some questions.
00:30:14.100
Thank you all so much
00:30:16.440
for coming out.
00:30:17.480
I really appreciate it.
00:30:18.920
A lot of us are students
00:30:20.360
and some of us
00:30:21.300
are going to be graduating
00:30:22.120
and leaving here
00:30:23.040
in a couple weeks.
00:30:24.600
I was wondering,
00:30:25.760
going into a job,
00:30:27.340
how would you recommend
00:30:28.540
that we continue to fight
00:30:30.300
for what we believe in
00:30:31.140
and for conservative values
00:30:32.300
without running the risk
00:30:33.660
of losing our livelihoods?
00:30:35.260
Look, it's a great question
00:30:37.680
and it's a hard question
00:30:38.720
because the censorship regime
00:30:40.920
is not just big tech
00:30:42.220
and it's not just universities.
00:30:43.740
It's becoming more and more
00:30:45.260
in the corporate world as well.
00:30:47.920
What I would say
00:30:48.900
is be a happy warrior.
00:30:50.740
Speak with your friends
00:30:51.900
and colleagues,
00:30:52.700
not angry,
00:30:54.100
not in your face,
00:30:55.320
but just speak,
00:30:57.240
you know,
00:30:57.680
something like the mask mandate.
00:31:00.080
Just about everyone knows
00:31:01.720
how silly this is.
00:31:03.000
We've seen in COVID
00:31:06.280
arbitrary rules shut down,
00:31:09.340
schools shut down,
00:31:11.180
and most people in the quiet,
00:31:13.400
you know,
00:31:13.640
SNL did a skit recently
00:31:15.420
of a bunch of liberals
00:31:17.240
sitting around the table
00:31:18.260
going,
00:31:18.660
do masks work?
00:31:19.980
Oh, no, no, no,
00:31:20.340
I'm not allowed to say that.
00:31:22.180
And so what I would say
00:31:23.260
is just speak the truth,
00:31:27.220
but you don't have to be
00:31:28.440
in your face
00:31:29.280
and angry about it.
00:31:30.660
And that's powerful, Michael.
00:31:34.280
I think there's a real risk you run.
00:31:38.000
I agree with everything
00:31:38.700
you said, Senator.
00:31:39.920
There is a risk
00:31:41.120
of a certain
00:31:42.760
putting off your courage
00:31:45.100
until tomorrow.
00:31:46.280
So you often hear this
00:31:47.520
from students.
00:31:48.000
They say,
00:31:48.480
should I speak up in class?
00:31:50.680
Or should I keep my head down
00:31:52.180
and then later on
00:31:53.600
I'll speak up?
00:31:54.320
I'll voice my opinions.
00:31:56.100
When?
00:31:56.560
When you're getting a paycheck
00:31:57.520
and you have rent to pay?
00:31:58.940
Is that when you're going to speak?
00:31:59.800
Well, okay,
00:32:00.700
maybe I'll get my first job.
00:32:02.400
It's entry level, though.
00:32:03.520
Maybe when I get a promotion.
00:32:06.960
So when you're married
00:32:08.000
and you have kids
00:32:08.860
and you've got
00:32:09.340
an even higher salary,
00:32:10.460
that's when you're...
00:32:11.140
No.
00:32:11.880
Okay, you're right, Michael.
00:32:13.100
Maybe when I make partner,
00:32:15.040
when I make partner
00:32:16.060
and I've got my mortgage payment
00:32:17.640
and I've got to put my kids
00:32:18.480
through college
00:32:19.080
and I've got to do this,
00:32:20.140
that, and the other thing,
00:32:20.900
then I'm going to speak my mind.
00:32:22.520
No, you're not.
00:32:23.440
The incentives are only
00:32:24.360
working against you.
00:32:25.460
It's only going to get harder.
00:32:26.700
So the question is,
00:32:27.840
what is your integrity worth to you?
00:32:30.040
Virtue is a habit.
00:32:31.100
You've got to practice it,
00:32:32.060
just like vice is a habit.
00:32:33.520
So courage is a virtue.
00:32:35.100
It's the prerequisite
00:32:35.860
for all of the other virtues.
00:32:37.320
I'm totally with Senator Cruz.
00:32:38.900
You don't need to be a jerk about it.
00:32:40.400
You don't need to be flamboyant
00:32:41.740
shooting off fireworks
00:32:43.240
at the water cooler,
00:32:44.220
but you can stand your ground
00:32:45.460
and speak your mind.
00:32:46.420
If you're not going to do it today,
00:32:47.800
you're probably
00:32:48.700
just not going to do it.
00:32:49.740
Well, and let me underscore
00:32:51.400
something also,
00:32:52.460
which is if you look at the left,
00:32:55.060
what's turned corporate America
00:32:56.740
so hard left in recent years?
00:32:59.420
You know, I remember
00:32:59.920
about 10 years ago,
00:33:01.260
there was the whole
00:33:01.860
political correct movement
00:33:03.140
that started in campuses
00:33:04.800
10 to 20 years ago.
00:33:06.960
And at the time,
00:33:07.920
a lot of us kind of laughed at us
00:33:09.540
and said, this is silly,
00:33:10.620
but this is harmless.
00:33:11.720
When people graduate
00:33:13.000
and have to get jobs,
00:33:13.980
they'll put that silliness
00:33:14.820
behind them.
00:33:16.180
Well, what happened
00:33:16.960
is a lot of the leftists
00:33:18.520
who were 21 and 22,
00:33:20.100
they went and got jobs
00:33:21.460
and now they're 28 or 30 or 32
00:33:23.700
and they're the young,
00:33:25.680
woke army in corporations.
00:33:28.380
And the amazing thing is
00:33:29.820
the CEOs are terrified of them.
00:33:31.700
It's the most backwards thing
00:33:33.780
in the world,
00:33:35.420
the degree to which
00:33:36.960
the students who graduated
00:33:39.020
a decade now ago
00:33:40.900
are terrorizing corporate America.
00:33:43.800
And so what I would say
00:33:44.700
is just to underscore
00:33:45.960
what Michael said,
00:33:47.240
don't be silent,
00:33:50.240
but do it with a smile.
00:33:51.640
Yeah.
00:33:52.120
Yeah.
00:33:52.380
There's an element
00:33:53.000
of practicality to it as well
00:33:54.740
that requires some self-reflection.
00:33:57.460
If you know what your line is,
00:33:59.280
the line that you're willing to,
00:34:00.960
or the line that you're not
00:34:01.860
willing to cross,
00:34:02.740
meaning there might be
00:34:03.440
some liberal issue that,
00:34:04.400
you know,
00:34:04.580
you just can't stay quiet anymore.
00:34:07.080
If you have reflected
00:34:08.540
on that yourself
00:34:09.280
and you know what your line is
00:34:10.420
on various issues,
00:34:11.760
then you don't have to feel
00:34:12.580
that every day
00:34:13.480
you have to be a dissenter.
00:34:15.280
Every day you have
00:34:16.080
to be the agitator.
00:34:16.940
You know exactly
00:34:17.660
what the most important issues are
00:34:18.900
and you've sort of pre-planned,
00:34:20.660
well, if it's this issue
00:34:21.420
and it gets to this point,
00:34:22.200
this is when I'm going
00:34:22.640
to talk to my colleagues,
00:34:23.500
or this issue and this point,
00:34:25.200
I'm going to take it
00:34:26.040
up the corporate ladder.
00:34:27.080
And then it's a little bit
00:34:27.620
more organized
00:34:28.300
and a little bit
00:34:28.720
less emotional too.
00:34:32.140
Thanks.
00:34:32.460
Senator Cruz,
00:34:43.960
something that routinely
00:34:44.960
surprises me
00:34:45.800
about U.S. politicians,
00:34:47.060
especially conservatives,
00:34:48.660
is their support
00:34:49.600
for Guantanamo Bay.
00:34:51.480
Considering that
00:34:52.440
of the 37
00:34:53.380
who are still
00:34:54.140
imprisoned there,
00:34:55.460
the vast majority
00:34:56.480
have never been convicted
00:34:57.440
with anything
00:34:58.300
or charged.
00:34:59.020
and 17 are being held
00:35:01.100
indefinitely
00:35:01.700
with no plans
00:35:02.500
for transfer.
00:35:04.160
And these people
00:35:04.620
are routinely being denied
00:35:05.740
the regular due process
00:35:07.040
that we ordinarily
00:35:07.920
afford people.
00:35:09.780
Additionally,
00:35:10.600
some of the methods
00:35:12.080
of interrogation
00:35:12.840
include rectal feeding
00:35:13.920
and waterboarding
00:35:15.880
and in one case,
00:35:17.900
one prisoner claimed
00:35:18.560
that he was used
00:35:19.240
as a training dummy
00:35:20.260
by the CIA
00:35:21.280
and that he suffered
00:35:22.020
brain damage.
00:35:22.740
I guess my question
00:35:24.380
is how can America
00:35:25.920
claim certain ideals
00:35:27.900
while also maintaining
00:35:30.180
that it has to have
00:35:31.100
these facilities open?
00:35:33.360
Well,
00:35:34.020
because there are
00:35:35.580
enemies who hate us
00:35:36.540
and the U.S. Constitution
00:35:39.540
applies to Americans
00:35:41.280
in America.
00:35:42.540
It doesn't apply
00:35:43.560
to terrorists,
00:35:45.400
to enemy terrorists
00:35:46.340
in foreign countries
00:35:47.300
that are trying
00:35:47.780
to kill us.
00:35:48.380
On September 11, 2001,
00:35:57.680
I still remember
00:35:58.500
where I was.
00:35:59.100
I was in Washington, D.C.
00:36:01.220
We lived less than a mile
00:36:03.280
from the Pentagon.
00:36:04.140
My wife Heidi
00:36:04.800
was working
00:36:05.260
at the White House
00:36:05.840
at the time.
00:36:07.360
We lost a very good
00:36:08.820
friend of ours
00:36:09.460
who was in the plane
00:36:10.520
that flew into the Pentagon
00:36:11.680
in the most horrific
00:36:14.460
act of terrorism
00:36:15.700
in United States history.
00:36:18.380
That act of warfare
00:36:21.480
came from an ideology,
00:36:24.000
radical Islamic terrorism
00:36:26.020
that wages jihad
00:36:27.420
in America.
00:36:28.140
And we went
00:36:28.740
and waged war
00:36:29.600
and you say,
00:36:30.700
well, gosh,
00:36:31.140
we didn't provide
00:36:32.160
due process to them.
00:36:33.360
Well, you know what?
00:36:34.460
When we send
00:36:35.260
a fighter jet
00:36:36.100
over to Afghanistan
00:36:37.180
and we identify
00:36:38.420
people who are
00:36:40.520
Al-Qaeda
00:36:41.400
or in later manifestations,
00:36:43.740
ISIS,
00:36:44.320
Al-Nusra,
00:36:45.340
there are a whole series
00:36:46.160
of radical Islamic
00:36:47.120
terrorist organizations,
00:36:48.380
and we fire missiles
00:36:49.360
at them and blow them up,
00:36:50.800
they don't get
00:36:51.240
due process either.
00:36:52.480
Warfare
00:36:52.920
is
00:36:54.940
a dangerous process.
00:36:58.040
If you look
00:36:58.480
at Guantanamo Bay,
00:36:59.480
it is explicitly
00:37:00.300
outside of U.S. jurisdiction.
00:37:02.400
The reason
00:37:02.860
we've housed them there
00:37:04.480
is so that the federal courts
00:37:05.880
would not
00:37:06.620
place them
00:37:07.620
under their scrutiny.
00:37:08.400
Now, that being said,
00:37:09.600
the federal courts
00:37:10.220
have asserted
00:37:10.820
considerable authority
00:37:11.880
over Guantanamo
00:37:13.280
even though
00:37:14.000
it was a foreign jurisdiction.
00:37:15.380
And you noted
00:37:16.380
enhanced interrogation.
00:37:19.360
I will say
00:37:20.300
it is U.S. law.
00:37:22.220
It is U.S. policy
00:37:23.620
now under both
00:37:24.580
Republicans
00:37:25.040
and Democrats
00:37:25.860
that we do not
00:37:26.520
torture people.
00:37:28.020
And so the example
00:37:28.900
you gave
00:37:29.540
of using that individual
00:37:31.300
as a dummy
00:37:32.780
and beating him,
00:37:34.340
if that happened,
00:37:35.260
that was a violation
00:37:36.080
of law
00:37:36.640
and anyone who did so
00:37:37.640
would be prosecuted.
00:37:39.240
We don't torture them,
00:37:40.680
but we do keep them
00:37:42.540
incapacitated.
00:37:44.520
The people who are there
00:37:45.760
are the very worst
00:37:48.060
of the worst.
00:37:48.900
And if you look
00:37:49.520
at the history
00:37:50.260
of releasing terrorists,
00:37:53.440
Barack Obama
00:37:54.300
released a significant
00:37:55.840
number of terrorists
00:37:56.780
from Guantanamo Bay.
00:37:59.560
Joe Biden
00:38:00.560
released a significant
00:38:03.000
number of terrorists,
00:38:04.180
particularly from Afghanistan.
00:38:05.920
And we release them
00:38:07.100
and they turn around
00:38:08.120
and a large percentage
00:38:09.380
of them come back
00:38:10.280
and attack us again.
00:38:11.740
You remember the guy
00:38:12.540
who blew up
00:38:13.900
and murdered
00:38:14.400
13 servicemen
00:38:16.020
and women
00:38:16.520
in Afghanistan?
00:38:19.140
That man had been
00:38:20.420
imprisoned at Bagram
00:38:21.880
and when Biden
00:38:23.420
abandoned the Bagram
00:38:24.680
airfield,
00:38:25.420
he was released
00:38:26.180
and turned around
00:38:27.140
and murdered
00:38:28.080
13 servicemen
00:38:29.180
and women.
00:38:29.720
So why shouldn't
00:38:30.940
we close Guantanamo Bay?
00:38:32.880
Because I don't want
00:38:33.980
terrorists to murder
00:38:35.240
Americans.
00:38:35.960
You know,
00:38:36.180
just to add,
00:38:36.900
I agree with that
00:38:37.900
and to add
00:38:38.540
a little bit of context,
00:38:39.580
you mentioned
00:38:40.060
waterboarding
00:38:40.720
as an example
00:38:41.880
of torture.
00:38:43.720
Waterboarding
00:38:44.160
is not torture.
00:38:45.440
We waterboard
00:38:46.200
our own troops
00:38:47.040
in training,
00:38:47.880
so unless we're
00:38:48.780
torturing our own troops,
00:38:49.700
I guess we'll have
00:38:50.120
a lot of lawsuits
00:38:50.700
on our hands
00:38:51.220
in that case.
00:38:51.880
I don't think
00:38:52.440
that quite counts.
00:38:53.980
But furthermore,
00:38:54.860
one of the arguments
00:38:55.900
against enhanced interrogation
00:38:57.480
or even against torture
00:38:58.820
is that we have agreed
00:39:00.600
in international law
00:39:01.640
to afford certain
00:39:03.040
courtesies
00:39:03.800
to enemy combatants
00:39:05.220
who abide
00:39:05.780
by the laws of war.
00:39:07.160
Now some people
00:39:08.720
have argued
00:39:09.180
that we should
00:39:09.860
extend these courtesies
00:39:11.300
even to terrorists.
00:39:12.940
This is a very,
00:39:13.900
very bad idea.
00:39:15.140
The reason that we
00:39:15.820
extend these courtesies
00:39:16.900
to certain enemy combatants
00:39:18.620
is so that we can
00:39:19.680
protect civilians.
00:39:21.020
So we say
00:39:21.620
you need to wear a uniform,
00:39:22.540
you need to not
00:39:23.140
target civilians
00:39:24.100
to achieve your
00:39:25.080
political goals.
00:39:26.020
So if we extend
00:39:26.780
those same courtesies
00:39:27.740
to terrorists
00:39:28.560
who very directly
00:39:30.000
are targeting civilians
00:39:31.300
to achieve political goals,
00:39:32.720
we undermine
00:39:33.500
the entire purpose
00:39:34.680
of those protections
00:39:35.520
in the first place.
00:39:36.860
So to borrow a line
00:39:38.200
from my friend
00:39:38.840
Andrew Clavin,
00:39:39.800
I think that
00:39:40.540
waterboarding jihadis
00:39:41.780
should be an Olympic sport
00:39:43.020
and I don't think
00:39:43.620
there's anything wrong
00:39:44.300
with it.
00:39:49.160
But I will say
00:39:50.420
notwithstanding
00:39:51.360
your and Andrew Clavin's view,
00:39:53.700
it is currently
00:39:54.360
against U.S. law
00:39:55.460
so we're not doing so right now.
00:39:59.680
Sorry,
00:40:00.260
just with all due respect,
00:40:02.060
my question
00:40:02.900
wasn't entirely
00:40:03.800
about releasing prisoners.
00:40:05.140
I know you brought that up.
00:40:06.600
It also,
00:40:07.700
it was mostly
00:40:09.940
to address
00:40:10.560
the waterboarding thing.
00:40:11.640
We know that
00:40:12.300
the studies suggest
00:40:13.320
that torture doesn't work.
00:40:14.880
I would just like
00:40:15.260
to clarify
00:40:15.740
or enhance interrogation,
00:40:18.200
sorry.
00:40:18.840
My question was not about
00:40:20.300
obviously releasing
00:40:21.140
these people.
00:40:21.800
That's a horrible consequence
00:40:22.880
what happened,
00:40:23.780
obviously.
00:40:25.120
It was mostly
00:40:26.080
about humane treatment.
00:40:28.240
So listen,
00:40:28.740
and I agree
00:40:29.240
we should provide
00:40:30.020
humane treatment
00:40:30.680
and it's one of the things
00:40:31.600
America does
00:40:32.420
that is different.
00:40:33.020
It's why U.S. law
00:40:34.200
prohibits torture.
00:40:35.960
And I'm glad you say
00:40:37.740
that you agree
00:40:38.740
that these folks
00:40:39.560
shouldn't be released.
00:40:40.600
I can tell you
00:40:41.380
over the last decade
00:40:42.540
I have repeatedly
00:40:44.240
forced votes
00:40:45.380
on whether or not
00:40:46.300
we should release people
00:40:47.400
out of Guantanamo
00:40:48.300
and Joe Biden
00:40:49.840
and the Democrats
00:40:50.540
are pressing to do so.
00:40:52.500
When we have votes
00:40:53.440
on this,
00:40:54.400
they vote party line.
00:40:56.080
I think we are likely
00:40:59.820
to see an effort
00:41:00.700
from the Biden administration
00:41:01.740
to shut Guantanamo Bay down
00:41:03.700
and if that happens
00:41:05.420
or not to shut
00:41:06.720
the base down
00:41:07.360
but to release
00:41:08.060
the prisoners
00:41:08.600
to shut the detention
00:41:09.420
facility down,
00:41:10.600
if that happens,
00:41:11.920
I believe the result
00:41:13.000
of that will be
00:41:13.700
that Americans
00:41:14.240
will die
00:41:15.660
because those terrorists
00:41:17.080
will go back
00:41:17.800
and commit more
00:41:18.640
terrorist attacks
00:41:19.420
against us.
00:41:20.580
Thank you for your question.
00:41:22.100
Thank you.
00:41:22.460
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So our question tonight
00:41:50.580
is from Cracklin.
00:41:51.660
This is a good question
00:41:52.840
I think.
00:41:53.440
Cracklin says
00:41:53.820
Do you think
00:41:54.320
it's appropriate
00:41:54.960
to call someone
00:41:56.140
a groomer
00:41:56.760
if they're trying
00:41:57.280
to teach sexual material
00:41:58.520
to young children?
00:42:03.540
I think as a general matter
00:42:05.120
people ought to
00:42:05.800
ratchet their rhetoric down.
00:42:07.860
Listen,
00:42:08.460
there are predators.
00:42:09.520
There are predators
00:42:10.060
that target kids.
00:42:11.700
There are predators
00:42:12.260
who commit horrific acts.
00:42:16.500
I spent five and a half years
00:42:18.260
as Solicitor General
00:42:19.140
of Texas.
00:42:19.760
I handled a lot of cases
00:42:21.120
of people who committed
00:42:22.900
horrific, horrific crimes
00:42:25.400
on little kids.
00:42:27.100
There is also an effort
00:42:28.860
from the left
00:42:29.700
to sexualize everything,
00:42:31.700
all of the uproar
00:42:32.900
over the Florida bill.
00:42:34.360
The Florida bill
00:42:35.220
says you shouldn't be
00:42:36.660
teaching kids pre-K
00:42:38.260
through third grade
00:42:39.500
about sex.
00:42:41.760
Now, I think that is
00:42:43.680
obviously right.
00:42:45.300
A kid in pre-K
00:42:46.300
is four years old.
00:42:47.580
I'm not interested
00:42:48.660
in a kid in pre-K
00:42:49.720
learning about gay sex,
00:42:51.600
straight sex,
00:42:52.340
or anything else.
00:42:53.240
I want them to learn
00:42:54.280
about playing with blocks
00:42:56.240
and how to count.
00:42:58.660
And so, listen,
00:43:00.620
some of the language
00:43:01.520
saying, all right,
00:43:02.600
anyone trying to push
00:43:04.100
their ideology
00:43:04.960
as a groomer,
00:43:05.880
I think that's probably,
00:43:07.560
that rhetoric
00:43:09.680
escalates things a bit.
00:43:11.680
Now, are there people
00:43:13.380
who are groomers
00:43:14.160
who are actually pedophiles
00:43:15.980
targeting kids?
00:43:17.020
Yes.
00:43:17.920
But I wouldn't use
00:43:19.280
that accusation lightly
00:43:21.380
because I would reserve it
00:43:22.720
for people
00:43:23.300
who actually have
00:43:25.060
direct ill intent
00:43:26.320
targeted at kids.
00:43:27.960
So, basically,
00:43:29.060
if the result
00:43:30.540
of the indoctrination
00:43:32.200
in these sexual materials
00:43:34.100
is political gratification
00:43:35.380
versus sexual gratification,
00:43:36.880
then you would make
00:43:38.440
that distinction
00:43:39.040
with the term?
00:43:39.760
Yeah, look,
00:43:40.360
that's a good point,
00:43:41.900
and I like the way
00:43:42.920
you phrased it.
00:43:43.760
I think there are people
00:43:45.060
who are misguided
00:43:46.280
trying to drive,
00:43:48.420
you know,
00:43:48.720
Disney stepping in
00:43:49.960
saying, you know,
00:43:51.080
in every episode now
00:43:52.920
they're going to have,
00:43:53.920
you know,
00:43:54.740
Mickey and Pluto
00:43:56.760
going at it.
00:43:58.000
Like, really?
00:44:00.200
Thank you for that image,
00:44:01.480
Senator.
00:44:02.120
But it's just like,
00:44:03.260
come on, guys.
00:44:04.520
Like, these are kids,
00:44:06.460
and, you know,
00:44:07.720
you could always shift
00:44:09.240
to Cinemax
00:44:09.980
if you want that.
00:44:10.820
Like, why do you have,
00:44:13.240
it used to be,
00:44:14.680
look, I'm a dad.
00:44:15.820
Like, you used to be able
00:44:16.540
to put your kids
00:44:17.320
on the Disney Channel
00:44:18.300
and be like,
00:44:19.040
all right,
00:44:19.440
something innocuous
00:44:20.580
will happen,
00:44:21.720
and you've got these,
00:44:23.440
like, you know,
00:44:25.340
I don't know,
00:44:25.940
woke lefties
00:44:27.040
that want to make it
00:44:28.020
their political agenda.
00:44:29.220
I just wish they'd leave
00:44:30.180
their political agenda
00:44:31.160
out of it.
00:44:32.960
That being said,
00:44:34.160
so I disagree with
00:44:35.000
their political agenda.
00:44:35.880
I think it's wrong,
00:44:36.560
and I think it's harmful.
00:44:37.560
But I do think
00:44:39.260
it is different
00:44:40.180
from actual sexual predators
00:44:42.980
that are trying
00:44:43.600
to violate children,
00:44:44.660
so I wouldn't,
00:44:45.380
I wouldn't conflate the two.
00:44:47.140
I would say,
00:44:48.300
I disagree with both of them,
00:44:49.600
but the latter
00:44:50.200
is a serious criminal offense
00:44:51.780
that you should go to jail
00:44:52.620
for a long, long time.
00:44:54.060
The former is just misguided
00:44:55.820
and you should be made fun of.
00:44:57.060
And what's interesting
00:44:57.820
is that,
00:44:58.540
that, yeah,
00:44:59.260
well, yes, of course.
00:45:00.280
What's interesting
00:45:01.020
is that parents
00:45:02.020
on both sides of the aisle
00:45:03.120
feel strongly about this issue.
00:45:04.800
Yeah.
00:45:04.900
It's not something
00:45:05.420
that it's the right
00:45:06.060
versus the left,
00:45:06.660
Republicans versus Democrats.
00:45:08.340
It's something where,
00:45:09.420
and the surveys from Florida
00:45:10.780
show this,
00:45:11.720
that it's really parents
00:45:13.760
versus this ideology.
00:45:15.160
They feel that their children
00:45:16.160
are being put
00:45:17.380
in a pipeline
00:45:18.740
with this agenda,
00:45:20.100
that it's not just exposure
00:45:21.180
to a principle
00:45:22.240
or an ideology
00:45:23.560
in an academic sense
00:45:25.600
that they don't want
00:45:26.540
their children to know about,
00:45:27.440
that they feel
00:45:27.800
that their children
00:45:28.220
are being taught
00:45:28.960
that something is right
00:45:31.500
when objectively
00:45:32.360
that thing is not right.
00:45:34.420
And it's an interesting
00:45:35.440
cultural battle
00:45:36.060
in our nation.
00:45:36.660
And there's an age
00:45:37.940
and stage question.
00:45:39.840
Yeah.
00:45:39.980
Four-year-olds
00:45:40.920
are different
00:45:41.560
from 19-year-olds.
00:45:43.020
Vivek Ramaswamy,
00:45:44.420
our friend,
00:45:45.340
has dubbed the bill
00:45:47.020
which the libs call
00:45:48.160
the don't say gay bell.
00:45:49.480
He says it's really
00:45:50.320
just the wait till eight bill.
00:45:52.340
You know,
00:45:52.780
after eight,
00:45:53.600
then I guess
00:45:54.200
all bets are off.
00:45:55.260
It really was.
00:45:56.300
Fourth grade.
00:45:57.140
Hey,
00:45:57.360
knock yourself out.
00:45:58.420
You can get into
00:45:58.960
all this stuff
00:45:59.720
in fourth grade.
00:46:00.520
That seems a little
00:46:01.320
early to me anyway,
00:46:02.180
but it is a pretty modest,
00:46:05.360
like,
00:46:05.580
can we give kids
00:46:06.820
just a little bit
00:46:08.540
of quiet
00:46:08.960
until third grade?
00:46:11.120
All right.
00:46:11.880
Well,
00:46:12.500
there's your answer.
00:46:14.400
And I want to get back to you.
00:46:15.120
You've been waiting
00:46:15.480
very patiently.
00:46:16.240
As always,
00:46:16.700
if you want to ask a question
00:46:17.640
on Verdict Plus,
00:46:18.300
just go to
00:46:18.620
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00:46:19.960
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00:46:20.620
and submit your questions.
00:46:21.920
We do this every week.
00:46:22.920
What's your name?
00:46:24.220
My name is Sam Williams.
00:46:25.920
So I'm a really big fan
00:46:27.140
of both of you guys.
00:46:28.200
I am conservative,
00:46:29.820
but I do disagree
00:46:31.200
with conservatives
00:46:31.820
on the issue
00:46:32.520
of school choice.
00:46:33.800
So my aunt,
00:46:35.200
who votes Republican,
00:46:36.460
she's a third grade teacher
00:46:37.360
up in Michigan,
00:46:38.020
and they implemented
00:46:38.640
school choice.
00:46:39.720
And according to her,
00:46:40.520
it was a complete disaster.
00:46:42.160
She was a teacher
00:46:42.760
at one of the best schools
00:46:43.580
in the area,
00:46:44.100
and once it was implemented,
00:46:45.340
there was a major
00:46:46.000
overcrowding issue.
00:46:47.620
Most of the kids
00:46:48.260
who came in
00:46:48.880
were horrible,
00:46:49.840
according to her,
00:46:50.580
and there was
00:46:51.220
a loss of community.
00:46:52.660
What are your thoughts
00:46:53.280
on the issue,
00:46:53.960
and are there any other
00:46:54.820
policies you advocate for
00:46:56.180
in regards to education?
00:46:58.180
So that's a very
00:46:59.500
interesting question.
00:47:00.380
I will say,
00:47:00.820
I don't know
00:47:01.440
the specific results
00:47:02.700
in Michigan,
00:47:03.460
and it may be
00:47:04.300
that when they implemented
00:47:05.840
it in Michigan,
00:47:06.520
they did it badly.
00:47:07.640
So your aunt's experience,
00:47:09.380
I don't doubt
00:47:10.260
that she underwent that.
00:47:12.260
I can tell you
00:47:13.000
on the issue
00:47:13.360
of school choice,
00:47:14.000
it's an issue
00:47:14.440
I've been involved in
00:47:15.720
25, 30 years,
00:47:17.980
and I think it is
00:47:19.360
the most important
00:47:21.660
education issue
00:47:22.760
and civil rights issue
00:47:23.760
we have in this country.
00:47:25.400
And let me explain why.
00:47:26.760
Look, school choice
00:47:27.620
is all about giving
00:47:28.920
low-income kids
00:47:30.980
the same ability
00:47:32.060
to choose
00:47:32.940
that rich and middle-class
00:47:34.460
kids have always had.
00:47:36.320
And I remember
00:47:38.200
20 years ago,
00:47:38.980
we'd have debates
00:47:39.600
about school choice,
00:47:40.540
and people would say,
00:47:41.420
well, if you give
00:47:42.880
low-income kids
00:47:43.800
the ability to get
00:47:44.540
scholarships,
00:47:45.220
the ability to get
00:47:45.920
out of failing schools,
00:47:47.080
the result will be
00:47:48.300
that it'll just destroy
00:47:49.500
the public schools.
00:47:51.540
That is a serious argument.
00:47:53.140
If that were, in fact,
00:47:54.220
correct, I would oppose
00:47:55.260
school choice.
00:47:56.080
I have no interest
00:47:57.560
in destroying
00:47:58.920
the school system
00:48:00.140
that provides
00:48:00.760
the vast majority
00:48:01.940
of education
00:48:02.600
to kids.
00:48:04.420
We now know, though,
00:48:05.860
because school choice
00:48:06.720
has been implemented
00:48:07.560
in over 30 jurisdictions
00:48:08.940
across the country,
00:48:10.300
the data disprove it.
00:48:12.020
That if you look at,
00:48:13.140
and what I would encourage you
00:48:14.300
is to spend some time
00:48:15.700
studying choice.
00:48:16.540
It may be the program
00:48:17.380
your aunt had experience
00:48:18.380
with was badly designed
00:48:20.080
and poorly implemented.
00:48:21.940
I can tell you
00:48:22.860
more broadly,
00:48:23.720
the data show
00:48:24.500
that when you have
00:48:25.100
choice programs,
00:48:26.820
number one,
00:48:27.600
the kids who exercise
00:48:28.500
choice,
00:48:29.080
who are in a failing school
00:48:30.200
and go to another school
00:48:31.880
to another option,
00:48:33.420
they have significantly
00:48:34.440
better test outcomes.
00:48:35.600
They have better
00:48:35.980
reading scores,
00:48:36.700
better math scores,
00:48:37.560
better graduation rates.
00:48:38.900
They get into college
00:48:39.840
at a much higher rate.
00:48:41.480
But number two,
00:48:42.560
and this is critically important,
00:48:44.020
the public school improves.
00:48:46.900
Competition is good.
00:48:48.100
Think about it
00:48:48.720
in every other respect.
00:48:53.360
Competition improves quality.
00:48:57.120
And so it may be
00:48:59.200
in the instance,
00:48:59.860
I don't know if Michigan
00:49:00.680
did a partial school
00:49:02.060
choice hybrid
00:49:02.800
where they may just
00:49:04.040
have allowed kids
00:49:04.940
in failing schools
00:49:05.820
to get into the top
00:49:07.740
public schools
00:49:08.720
without additional competition.
00:49:10.560
It may have been structured
00:49:11.980
so it was designed to fail.
00:49:14.000
That sometimes happens
00:49:16.220
but look,
00:49:17.480
I think we ought to
00:49:18.420
have an urgency
00:49:19.480
when it comes to kids
00:49:22.000
trapped
00:49:22.860
and not able
00:49:24.240
to get an education.
00:49:25.440
That we ought to
00:49:26.460
have an urgency
00:49:27.180
that these kids
00:49:28.920
now deserve
00:49:29.920
a better option
00:49:30.700
and I support
00:49:31.700
every option
00:49:32.820
we can get.
00:49:33.500
I'm sympathetic
00:49:34.340
to the view,
00:49:35.220
I agree with what
00:49:35.840
Senator Cruz just said,
00:49:36.740
I'm sympathetic
00:49:37.220
to the observations
00:49:39.160
of your aunt
00:49:40.060
and perhaps of you
00:49:41.180
as well.
00:49:41.640
I do think
00:49:42.640
the alternative
00:49:44.580
that I would prefer
00:49:45.600
even to school choice
00:49:46.740
which I support
00:49:47.480
is that conservatives
00:49:49.000
just take back
00:49:50.400
the public schools
00:49:51.220
from the libs
00:49:51.920
and kick all the crazy
00:49:53.200
racial and sexual
00:49:54.140
theories out
00:49:54.700
and raise the standards
00:49:55.800
and do a lot better.
00:49:56.740
I would love to be able
00:49:57.900
to wield that kind
00:49:58.840
of political power.
00:49:59.860
You're seeing it
00:50:00.420
in a handful of states
00:50:01.500
but it is worth
00:50:02.620
pointing out
00:50:03.300
that public education
00:50:04.820
in America
00:50:05.560
was from the beginning
00:50:07.720
a leftist endeavor.
00:50:09.500
this is not a bug
00:50:11.920
of the system
00:50:12.520
it's actually a feature
00:50:13.560
going back
00:50:14.400
not just 20 years
00:50:15.480
but going back
00:50:16.300
to John Dewey
00:50:17.020
going back
00:50:17.520
to Horace Mann
00:50:18.360
that this has been
00:50:19.360
in there
00:50:19.740
from the very beginning
00:50:20.560
and so I just fear
00:50:21.320
as a practical matter
00:50:22.760
I don't think
00:50:23.680
we're going to reform
00:50:24.680
the public education system
00:50:26.040
merely by taking power
00:50:27.380
and changing the curricula
00:50:28.460
I think we need
00:50:29.300
a structural change
00:50:30.720
as well
00:50:31.140
which school choice
00:50:32.260
has provided
00:50:32.860
which the homeschool
00:50:34.020
movement has provided
00:50:34.980
which parochial schools
00:50:36.060
have always provided
00:50:37.180
and so simply
00:50:39.240
as a practical matter
00:50:40.480
living in the real world
00:50:41.560
in 2022
00:50:42.140
I think that that
00:50:43.380
is our only hope
00:50:44.240
the alternative
00:50:45.000
is your five-year-old
00:50:46.600
being indoctrinated
00:50:47.520
into transgenderism
00:50:48.700
and critical race theory
00:50:49.620
and I don't think
00:50:50.180
any of us wants that
00:50:51.080
and I think too
00:50:52.340
that this idea
00:50:53.640
and this is building
00:50:54.140
on what Michael says
00:50:54.960
if conservatives
00:50:56.040
are going to retake
00:50:57.720
the public school system
00:50:58.900
the only way to do that
00:51:00.600
is through school choice
00:51:01.740
because it's not just
00:51:02.700
a matter of children
00:51:03.880
being caught
00:51:04.620
in a zip code
00:51:05.700
with a failing school
00:51:07.460
it's also a way
00:51:08.120
to ideologically
00:51:09.200
hold each and every
00:51:10.700
individual school
00:51:11.620
and school district
00:51:12.400
accountable
00:51:12.800
if enough parents
00:51:13.820
can go to their
00:51:14.680
school district
00:51:15.220
or their principal
00:51:15.880
and say listen
00:51:16.360
I'm pulling my child
00:51:17.100
out of this school
00:51:17.800
because you are teaching
00:51:18.840
critical race theory
00:51:19.700
or queer theory
00:51:20.340
and not only is my child
00:51:21.640
leaving the school
00:51:22.400
so is my money
00:51:23.260
if enough parents do that
00:51:24.420
then the school
00:51:25.200
has a choice
00:51:25.880
oh are we going
00:51:26.440
to adjust our curriculum
00:51:27.420
or are we going
00:51:28.480
to become a failing school
00:51:29.780
are we going
00:51:30.120
to become obsolete
00:51:30.940
so it's not just
00:51:31.940
a matter of increasing
00:51:33.300
educational outcomes
00:51:34.680
which is great
00:51:35.680
it's also how
00:51:36.820
conservatives can
00:51:37.580
rebalance the public
00:51:38.480
school system
00:51:39.180
hello
00:51:52.420
my name is Nick
00:51:53.680
and my question
00:51:54.460
is back to the beginning
00:51:55.780
you talked about
00:51:56.500
the mask mandate
00:51:57.280
and the potential
00:51:59.000
that the leftists
00:52:00.060
were trying to get
00:52:00.800
people who were thrown
00:52:01.620
off the planes
00:52:02.560
for not wearing the mask
00:52:03.500
added to a no fly list
00:52:05.220
and that that was
00:52:06.000
something reserved
00:52:06.600
for terrorists
00:52:07.300
and you yourself
00:52:09.100
referred to the
00:52:10.300
January 6 protesters
00:52:11.640
as terrorists
00:52:12.800
and so I'm wondering
00:52:13.900
if you could elaborate
00:52:14.740
a little bit
00:52:15.280
on where the first
00:52:16.480
amendment right
00:52:17.060
to not wear a mask
00:52:18.200
or to demonstrate
00:52:19.080
becomes the
00:52:19.960
you're now a terrorist
00:52:21.020
and can't get on
00:52:21.560
an airplane
00:52:21.980
and if there is any
00:52:24.040
place in American society
00:52:26.560
for people
00:52:28.260
American citizens
00:52:29.220
who have not been
00:52:30.160
convicted of any crime
00:52:31.260
to have been put
00:52:32.100
onto the no fly list
00:52:33.120
so it's a great question
00:52:35.200
and the simple answer
00:52:37.260
the divide is
00:52:38.800
those who commit
00:52:39.460
acts of violence
00:52:40.440
violate the criminal laws
00:52:42.800
and no one has a right
00:52:43.720
to commit an act
00:52:44.400
of violence
00:52:44.960
those who engage
00:52:46.420
in peaceful protests
00:52:47.620
have a right to do so
00:52:49.400
regardless of their
00:52:50.340
politics
00:52:50.940
so what I said
00:52:51.700
about January 6th
00:52:52.920
I was referring
00:52:53.940
to the very limited
00:52:55.020
number of violent
00:52:56.500
individuals who
00:52:57.380
physically assaulted
00:52:58.460
police officers
00:52:59.300
and if you assault
00:53:00.060
a police officer
00:53:00.900
I think you ought
00:53:02.460
to be prosecuted
00:53:03.260
you ought to go
00:53:03.640
to jail for a long time
00:53:05.140
that is very very
00:53:06.960
different
00:53:07.420
from the tens
00:53:09.380
of thousands
00:53:10.160
of peaceful protesters
00:53:11.380
that were there
00:53:12.080
on January 6th
00:53:13.220
that were speaking out
00:53:14.460
that were singing
00:53:15.040
God bless America
00:53:16.040
that were standing
00:53:16.760
with President Trump
00:53:17.740
they were not
00:53:18.920
remotely terrorists
00:53:19.940
and one of the things
00:53:20.840
that is maddening
00:53:22.040
is watching Democrats
00:53:23.900
watching the corporate
00:53:25.100
media
00:53:25.600
try to use
00:53:27.000
the criminal conduct
00:53:28.140
of a handful
00:53:29.000
of people
00:53:29.480
who engage
00:53:30.040
in acts of violence
00:53:31.060
to smear
00:53:32.820
the peaceful
00:53:34.160
First Amendment
00:53:34.900
activity
00:53:35.500
of tens of thousands
00:53:36.600
of people
00:53:37.060
in Washington D.C.
00:53:38.360
on January 6th
00:53:39.860
and of millions
00:53:40.500
of people
00:53:41.020
across the country
00:53:41.840
and you know
00:53:43.280
we see this
00:53:44.240
incredible hypocrisy
00:53:45.520
because
00:53:46.580
in the entire
00:53:48.260
preceding year
00:53:49.220
2020
00:53:49.680
we saw riots
00:53:51.820
across the country
00:53:52.760
Antifa
00:53:53.280
and Black Lives
00:53:54.080
Riot
00:53:54.480
Black Lives Matter
00:53:55.760
riots across the country
00:53:57.240
police cars
00:53:58.600
firebombed
00:53:59.440
stores looted
00:54:00.480
people assaulted
00:54:01.480
and we saw
00:54:03.100
the left
00:54:03.820
excusing
00:54:05.720
violent criminals
00:54:07.980
in fact
00:54:08.440
going so far
00:54:09.240
Kamala Harris
00:54:09.940
raised bail money
00:54:11.400
to bail out
00:54:13.360
the violent rioters
00:54:15.020
who were committing
00:54:15.660
acts of violence
00:54:16.760
in my view
00:54:17.440
there is a simple
00:54:18.920
dividing line
00:54:19.940
if you hurt
00:54:21.180
someone else
00:54:21.900
if you commit
00:54:22.480
an act of violence
00:54:23.460
you ought to be
00:54:24.360
prosecuted
00:54:25.140
if you're engaged
00:54:26.600
in speech
00:54:27.340
whether you and I
00:54:28.560
agree with them
00:54:29.320
or you and I
00:54:30.100
disagree with them
00:54:31.300
you have a right
00:54:32.540
to engage
00:54:33.360
in speech
00:54:34.480
protected by
00:54:35.500
the First Amendment
00:54:36.140
I agree with you
00:54:41.920
in that regard
00:54:42.680
but
00:54:43.200
the legal definition
00:54:44.820
of terrorism
00:54:45.580
assaulting a police
00:54:46.540
officer
00:54:46.880
is not terrorism
00:54:47.980
being convicted
00:54:48.800
of assault
00:54:49.680
does not put you
00:54:50.540
on the no fly list
00:54:51.720
there are January 6th
00:54:53.120
protesters
00:54:53.580
who have been
00:54:53.960
convicted of nothing
00:54:54.840
much less
00:54:55.780
not terrorism
00:54:56.700
and they are
00:54:57.840
nonetheless
00:54:58.220
on the no fly list
00:54:59.600
well look
00:55:00.720
I am very concerned
00:55:02.560
about this administration
00:55:04.080
abusing the no fly list
00:55:06.200
and abusing terrorism
00:55:08.540
you look at the individuals
00:55:09.900
that have been charged
00:55:10.900
I have repeatedly raised
00:55:12.680
with the Biden administration
00:55:14.080
trying to get
00:55:16.040
the Justice Department
00:55:17.240
to answer questions
00:55:18.180
about who is being charged
00:55:20.080
what are they being charged with
00:55:21.600
what are their conditions
00:55:22.640
are they in solitary confinement
00:55:24.960
how long have they been
00:55:25.940
in solitary confinement
00:55:27.180
how does that punishment
00:55:28.760
compare
00:55:29.460
to other similarly
00:55:30.960
situated
00:55:31.700
defendants
00:55:32.720
if you look at
00:55:33.660
for example
00:55:34.360
and I've
00:55:35.160
joined with other senators
00:55:37.180
writing to the Department
00:55:38.380
of Justice
00:55:38.880
I've asked the Department
00:55:40.000
of Justice
00:55:40.440
I've asked the FBI
00:55:41.620
these questions
00:55:43.140
what you've got
00:55:44.600
from this administration
00:55:46.380
is they just
00:55:47.520
utterly stiff arm Congress
00:55:49.540
they refuse
00:55:50.320
to answer those questions
00:55:51.980
so when I write
00:55:52.760
the Attorney General
00:55:53.680
he doesn't respond
00:55:55.160
when I ask them
00:55:56.100
at public hearings
00:55:57.000
he doesn't respond
00:55:58.360
and one of the challenges
00:55:59.920
the way our democratic process
00:56:02.380
works at this point
00:56:03.860
Republicans are in the minority
00:56:06.060
in both houses of Congress
00:56:07.340
which means
00:56:08.120
we can raise issues
00:56:10.060
but we don't have the ability
00:56:11.180
to convene hearings
00:56:12.100
without a majority
00:56:13.520
we don't have the ability
00:56:15.000
to pass legislation
00:56:16.220
right now
00:56:16.980
but I think
00:56:18.320
the abuse of power
00:56:19.760
of this administration
00:56:20.660
I agree with you
00:56:21.560
particularly
00:56:22.220
look right after
00:56:23.660
January 6
00:56:24.540
we saw
00:56:26.080
Washington D.C.
00:56:27.420
surrounded
00:56:27.980
with chain link fences
00:56:30.080
with razor wire
00:56:31.680
atop it
00:56:32.260
and it looked like Baghdad
00:56:33.380
and there were
00:56:34.660
thousands of
00:56:35.700
National Guardsmen
00:56:36.660
standing there
00:56:37.320
in camo uniforms
00:56:38.340
holding machine guns
00:56:40.140
with no bullets
00:56:41.720
they had no magazines
00:56:43.620
they were unloaded
00:56:44.560
machine guns
00:56:45.380
very quickly
00:56:47.460
the red state governors
00:56:48.540
realized
00:56:49.080
this is ridiculous
00:56:49.980
this is not merited
00:56:51.220
by any actual
00:56:52.360
public safety
00:56:53.320
purpose
00:56:54.520
the red state governors
00:56:55.580
brought the Guardsmen
00:56:56.440
home
00:56:56.860
so you had
00:56:57.960
for months
00:56:58.540
the only Guardsmen
00:56:59.380
left were from
00:57:00.060
Blue States
00:57:00.580
from New York
00:57:01.260
and New Jersey
00:57:01.840
and Rhode Island
00:57:02.440
I'd go talk to these guys
00:57:04.000
to a person
00:57:05.500
they were frustrated
00:57:06.680
out of their mind
00:57:07.460
because it was
00:57:07.940
obviously
00:57:08.900
political theater
00:57:10.440
it was not designed
00:57:11.780
to prevent
00:57:12.920
any real
00:57:13.980
public safety threat
00:57:15.260
it was designed
00:57:16.780
it was Joe Biden
00:57:18.400
and Nancy Pelosi
00:57:19.300
and Chuck Schumer
00:57:20.180
trying to say
00:57:22.380
every conservative
00:57:24.100
every Trump supporter
00:57:25.800
is a terrorist
00:57:26.680
and I'll tell you
00:57:27.540
I've heard multiple reports
00:57:29.380
of people
00:57:29.900
of people who were
00:57:30.740
in D.C.
00:57:32.300
peacefully protesting
00:57:33.500
and finding themselves
00:57:34.720
on the no-fly list
00:57:36.260
that is an absolute
00:57:37.620
abuse of power
00:57:39.180
the no-fly list
00:57:40.260
is reserved
00:57:41.340
for violent criminals
00:57:42.900
and people who pose
00:57:44.100
a very acute risk
00:57:45.940
to public safety
00:57:46.960
not to those
00:57:48.420
exercising their
00:57:49.460
First Amendment rights
00:57:50.460
applause
00:57:53.520
applause
00:57:54.520
applause
00:57:55.520
applause
00:57:56.520
applause
00:57:57.520
applause
00:57:58.520
applause
00:57:59.180
Alright, next question
00:58:00.520
Hi, what's your name?
00:58:03.320
Hi, I'm Melissa
00:58:04.160
First off, I just want to
00:58:05.500
thank you for coming
00:58:06.480
not just here
00:58:07.360
but to any college campus
00:58:08.520
to speak
00:58:08.980
because it can be
00:58:09.640
a very, very hostile
00:58:10.500
environment for conservatives
00:58:11.720
and that kind of leads
00:58:12.880
into my question
00:58:13.620
I'm more left-leaning
00:58:15.560
and I disagree
00:58:16.300
on plenty of your policies
00:58:17.600
but we also agree
00:58:18.400
on some other things
00:58:19.200
and I like to come
00:58:20.240
to conservative events
00:58:21.200
like this
00:58:21.720
and hear you guys' voices
00:58:22.860
but unfortunately
00:58:23.600
there's been a lot
00:58:24.480
of political censorship
00:58:25.860
a lot of shameful
00:58:27.020
attempts to keep people
00:58:28.940
from speaking
00:58:29.540
especially at college campuses
00:58:30.660
coming from my side
00:58:31.580
of the political spectrum
00:58:32.460
and so I'd like to
00:58:34.100
ask your advice
00:58:35.840
of how I could
00:58:36.640
encourage my peers
00:58:37.760
to come out
00:58:38.860
and actually see
00:58:39.620
conservatives
00:58:40.080
and hear you guys' voices
00:58:41.520
instead of relying
00:58:42.860
on a stereotype
00:58:43.800
perpetuated by the media
00:58:45.120
to argue against
00:58:45.920
drama instead
00:58:46.820
applause
00:58:49.300
applause
00:58:50.300
applause
00:58:52.300
applause
00:58:53.300
applause
00:58:54.300
applause
00:58:55.300
applause
00:58:56.300
So that is a
00:58:59.860
fabulous question
00:59:00.740
let me start
00:59:01.440
by just saying
00:59:01.980
thank you
00:59:02.460
thank you for being here
00:59:03.680
thank you for listening
00:59:04.680
thank you for being part
00:59:06.040
of a civil discussion
00:59:08.040
you're right
00:59:09.060
that doesn't happen
00:59:09.920
a lot on college campuses
00:59:11.260
and it needs to happen
00:59:13.040
and it is important
00:59:15.560
I think
00:59:16.400
to listen
00:59:16.980
not just to those
00:59:17.960
you agree with
00:59:18.620
but to those
00:59:19.060
you disagree with
00:59:19.940
in many ways
00:59:20.680
I think you can learn
00:59:21.960
more
00:59:22.400
listening to opposing views
00:59:24.880
rather than people
00:59:25.680
who are just reinforcing
00:59:26.780
what you already think
00:59:28.660
you know
00:59:28.980
I'm not sure
00:59:31.080
I know the answer
00:59:31.980
in terms of
00:59:33.000
if you look at the left
00:59:35.660
for a long time
00:59:36.720
the left
00:59:37.440
embraced free speech
00:59:39.460
you look at the free speech
00:59:41.840
one of the seminal
00:59:42.660
Supreme Court
00:59:43.400
decisions on free speech
00:59:45.480
involved a
00:59:46.560
anti-war protest
00:59:48.880
or a war jacket
00:59:50.080
that said
00:59:50.640
F the draft
00:59:51.500
and it didn't abbreviate F
00:59:52.840
and it went all the way
00:59:55.180
to the Supreme Court
00:59:56.020
and the Supreme Court
00:59:56.840
said
00:59:57.260
okay
00:59:57.580
that may be
00:59:58.300
one
00:59:58.720
you know
00:59:59.520
that may be
01:00:00.420
one man's obscenity
01:00:01.520
but the First Amendment
01:00:02.380
protects his right
01:00:03.560
to say that
01:00:04.300
I think that's
01:00:06.420
exactly right
01:00:07.300
there used to be
01:00:09.080
lions of the left
01:00:11.520
who embraced
01:00:12.280
free speech
01:00:13.120
it is becoming
01:00:15.240
more and more rare
01:00:17.060
and I do think
01:00:18.420
it's important
01:00:18.980
for your voice
01:00:19.920
and for other voices
01:00:21.760
on the political left
01:00:23.400
to say
01:00:23.860
look
01:00:24.220
if we
01:00:24.920
alright
01:00:26.000
I don't know
01:00:26.840
your economic views
01:00:27.920
but let's say
01:00:28.980
your economic views
01:00:30.160
are towards bigger government
01:00:31.380
or in the socialist direction
01:00:32.820
I don't know if you agree
01:00:33.520
with that or not
01:00:34.020
but hypothetically
01:00:35.220
let's say you do
01:00:36.100
if you believe
01:00:38.120
socialism is a good idea
01:00:39.640
and if you're actually
01:00:40.760
convinced
01:00:41.240
this is a better system
01:00:42.640
that helps people more
01:00:44.260
then
01:00:45.520
one ought to be
01:00:46.760
willing and eager
01:00:47.700
to have that conversation
01:00:49.120
not just with people
01:00:50.140
who agree with you
01:00:51.000
but people who disagree
01:00:52.420
with you
01:00:52.940
and look to the facts
01:00:54.000
of okay
01:00:54.560
what actually lifts
01:00:56.400
people out of poverty
01:00:57.380
what actually
01:00:58.240
helps people
01:00:59.440
achieve prosperity
01:01:00.480
and
01:01:00.880
I do think
01:01:04.000
so
01:01:07.280
I will say
01:01:08.700
one very encouraging sign
01:01:10.420
so I'm very glad
01:01:11.260
you're here
01:01:11.660
we were here
01:01:12.320
a week ago
01:01:13.280
at Michael's alma mater
01:01:15.120
at Yale
01:01:15.620
and it was striking
01:01:17.360
at Yale
01:01:17.760
look
01:01:18.000
Yale is a very
01:01:18.680
left wing campus
01:01:19.660
I'd say
01:01:21.060
somewhere between
01:01:21.800
a third to a half
01:01:22.960
of the students
01:01:23.700
leaned politically
01:01:25.300
to the left
01:01:25.980
not in the school
01:01:27.380
about 150%
01:01:28.620
in the school
01:01:29.080
lean left
01:01:29.520
but in the audience
01:01:30.860
that night
01:01:31.340
it was about
01:01:31.700
a third to half
01:01:32.860
and it was
01:01:33.500
so we were talking
01:01:34.280
about Justice
01:01:35.380
Ketanji Brown Jackson
01:01:36.520
and her confirmation
01:01:39.060
and when I mentioned
01:01:39.860
she was confirmed
01:01:40.580
as I said
01:01:41.060
about a third
01:01:41.700
to a half
01:01:42.180
of the crowd
01:01:42.720
began applauding
01:01:43.760
vigorously
01:01:44.680
and I actually
01:01:46.120
stepped back
01:01:46.680
I'm like
01:01:46.940
okay this is fantastic
01:01:48.300
this is fantastic
01:01:50.040
that y'all are here
01:01:51.160
you're listening
01:01:52.420
I'm not going to
01:01:53.120
presume that you're
01:01:54.020
necessarily persuaded
01:01:55.220
but to be in a
01:01:56.160
conversation
01:01:56.960
moves us
01:01:58.880
in a positive
01:01:59.520
direction
01:02:00.000
it was striking
01:02:00.640
afterwards
01:02:01.200
so Michael
01:02:02.400
and I went
01:02:03.220
with a friend
01:02:05.000
of Michael's
01:02:05.740
who is an
01:02:06.540
orthodox rabbi
01:02:07.480
on campus
01:02:08.200
and we went
01:02:09.560
and had some
01:02:10.740
scotch
01:02:11.740
and smoked cigars
01:02:12.660
a couple of Coca-Colas
01:02:13.600
late into the night
01:02:14.520
and it was
01:02:16.880
interesting
01:02:17.280
the rabbi's
01:02:17.940
comment
01:02:18.300
in that he said
01:02:19.200
he said
01:02:19.600
this was the
01:02:20.180
first time
01:02:21.040
in decades
01:02:22.040
that he had
01:02:23.380
seen that many
01:02:24.420
students at Yale
01:02:25.460
sit down
01:02:26.360
and have
01:02:26.960
a civil
01:02:27.840
positive
01:02:28.940
conversation
01:02:29.860
with conservative
01:02:30.700
ideas
01:02:31.360
and he thought
01:02:32.560
it was a really
01:02:33.080
important moment
01:02:33.900
for the campus
01:02:34.560
and I think
01:02:36.500
the more
01:02:37.100
we just
01:02:37.600
talk to each
01:02:38.420
other
01:02:38.660
the better
01:02:40.620
it is
01:02:41.140
one thing
01:02:41.600
I encourage
01:02:42.120
students to do
01:02:42.800
and it's
01:02:43.020
something I
01:02:43.360
encourage
01:02:43.680
high school
01:02:44.100
students
01:02:44.520
junior high
01:02:45.000
students
01:02:45.320
to do
01:02:45.800
pick a
01:02:47.980
podcast or
01:02:48.900
two on the
01:02:49.420
left
01:02:49.780
and a
01:02:50.680
podcast or
01:02:51.340
two on the
01:02:51.760
right
01:02:52.020
and listen
01:02:52.400
to them
01:02:52.680
look
01:02:52.840
obviously
01:02:53.180
I encourage
01:02:53.600
people
01:02:53.900
listen to
01:02:54.280
this
01:02:54.440
podcast
01:02:54.920
by the
01:02:56.880
way
01:02:57.000
listen to
01:02:57.380
this
01:02:57.540
podcast
01:02:57.940
but it's
01:03:00.320
the sort
01:03:00.760
of thing
01:03:01.140
as a
01:03:01.740
consumer
01:03:02.220
of news
01:03:02.940
what is
01:03:04.740
hard right
01:03:05.600
now
01:03:05.960
is there's
01:03:06.700
virtually
01:03:07.120
no
01:03:07.460
unbiased
01:03:08.060
news
01:03:08.440
and we
01:03:09.820
live in
01:03:10.380
such a
01:03:10.800
tribalized
01:03:11.440
world
01:03:11.740
that the
01:03:12.060
left
01:03:12.300
listens to
01:03:12.820
left wing
01:03:13.200
news
01:03:13.460
the right
01:03:13.820
listens to
01:03:14.300
right wing
01:03:14.720
news
01:03:15.120
we don't
01:03:15.920
have shared
01:03:16.400
facts
01:03:16.880
we don't
01:03:17.380
have
01:03:17.540
conversations
01:03:18.160
together
01:03:18.640
and at
01:03:20.140
least the
01:03:20.640
way I
01:03:21.040
try to
01:03:21.620
go through
01:03:22.060
that is I
01:03:22.500
try to
01:03:22.980
rather than
01:03:24.240
pretend any
01:03:24.980
source is
01:03:25.460
unbiased I
01:03:26.280
try to
01:03:26.880
listen to
01:03:27.780
and read
01:03:28.800
things that
01:03:29.400
are explicitly
01:03:29.960
on the left
01:03:30.640
and explicitly
01:03:31.180
on the right
01:03:32.000
and usually
01:03:33.340
the truth is
01:03:34.120
somewhere in
01:03:34.640
the middle
01:03:34.960
so what I
01:03:35.440
would say
01:03:35.900
is your
01:03:36.460
voice
01:03:37.060
engaged
01:03:38.000
on both
01:03:39.100
sides of
01:03:39.660
the aisle
01:03:40.200
hopefully
01:03:41.140
that becomes
01:03:41.680
contagious
01:03:42.100
I would
01:03:42.600
be curious
01:03:43.240
to just
01:03:44.180
to hear
01:03:44.600
your thoughts
01:03:45.460
on because
01:03:46.320
I think
01:03:46.760
your diagnosis
01:03:47.360
is obviously
01:03:48.020
right about
01:03:49.460
the left
01:03:50.020
censoring
01:03:50.740
conservatives
01:03:51.460
I don't
01:03:52.560
I almost
01:03:53.300
don't hear
01:03:53.700
any calls
01:03:54.260
by conservatives
01:03:54.980
to censor
01:03:55.820
the libs
01:03:56.320
probably there
01:03:56.840
just aren't
01:03:57.180
enough of
01:03:57.560
us
01:03:57.740
so so
01:03:59.120
why is
01:04:00.000
it what
01:04:00.380
what makes
01:04:01.340
you different
01:04:02.000
why are you
01:04:02.660
here why are
01:04:03.360
you interested
01:04:03.980
in even if you
01:04:05.220
disagree with
01:04:05.740
us in hearing
01:04:06.120
what we have
01:04:06.500
to say
01:04:06.840
well so many
01:04:07.660
of your fellow
01:04:08.260
left-wingers
01:04:08.900
or not
01:04:09.340
I mean I
01:04:10.100
would say
01:04:10.460
I'm not
01:04:11.260
really interested
01:04:11.960
in some big
01:04:12.880
tribe of people
01:04:14.100
I think we're
01:04:14.580
all individuals
01:04:15.240
and we all
01:04:15.980
have our
01:04:16.320
individual policy
01:04:17.520
beliefs on
01:04:18.160
separate issues
01:04:18.900
you know I
01:04:19.600
certainly agree
01:04:20.240
with you on
01:04:20.640
gun control
01:04:21.200
I'm a big
01:04:22.240
gun rights
01:04:22.720
advocate
01:04:23.040
I believe
01:04:24.240
everybody should
01:04:24.860
be able to
01:04:25.280
own a gun
01:04:25.620
if they want
01:04:26.260
to because
01:04:26.940
that's your
01:04:27.420
right to
01:04:27.740
protect yourself
01:04:28.420
and I think
01:04:33.360
having those
01:04:34.120
opinions that
01:04:34.940
kind of differ
01:04:35.680
from people who
01:04:36.420
may share my
01:04:36.960
opinion on
01:04:37.540
health care
01:04:38.040
for example
01:04:38.700
really kind of
01:04:40.160
puts into
01:04:40.500
perspective the
01:04:41.780
way that we
01:04:42.860
are treating
01:04:43.480
and I say we
01:04:44.440
but I don't
01:04:45.020
really generally
01:04:45.720
want to associate
01:04:46.400
myself with people
01:04:47.200
who try to
01:04:47.640
censor you guys
01:04:48.400
but the way
01:04:49.240
that leftists
01:04:50.760
try to treat
01:04:51.600
conservatives
01:04:52.520
and your
01:04:53.200
opinions
01:04:53.760
having that
01:04:54.820
kind of
01:04:55.260
experience
01:04:55.860
really lends
01:04:56.860
some perspective
01:04:57.520
to why we
01:04:58.200
should give you
01:04:58.680
guys way more
01:04:59.280
respect than
01:04:59.920
we actually do
01:05:00.580
well thank you
01:05:01.840
very much
01:05:02.320
thank you
01:05:02.720
that's a great
01:05:03.300
question
01:05:03.760
while we're
01:05:10.100
waiting for this
01:05:10.680
next question
01:05:11.300
by the way
01:05:11.740
you guys can
01:05:12.180
use that same
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promo code
01:05:13.440
live to
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get a good
01:05:15.760
deal
01:05:15.980
10% off the
01:05:16.740
merch source
01:05:17.180
verdict with
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tedcruz.com
01:05:18.580
slash shop
01:05:19.820
if you want
01:05:20.360
you know those
01:05:21.000
hats with the
01:05:21.720
sweet cactus
01:05:22.260
maybe for the
01:05:22.740
back of your
01:05:23.060
laptop a t-shirt
01:05:23.940
verdict with
01:05:24.760
tedcruz.com
01:05:25.560
slash shop
01:05:26.760
promo code
01:05:27.560
live
01:05:27.940
what's your
01:05:29.200
name hi
01:05:29.500
thanks for
01:05:29.820
coming
01:05:30.040
I'm David
01:05:30.720
Bender
01:05:31.060
thanks for
01:05:32.080
being here
01:05:32.540
and so
01:05:33.960
as Michael
01:05:35.100
as a
01:05:36.100
fellow
01:05:36.560
conservative
01:05:37.080
catholic
01:05:37.640
I was curious
01:05:38.940
why so many
01:05:39.940
pro-life
01:05:40.800
conservatives
01:05:41.620
are pro
01:05:43.300
contraception
01:05:44.060
because it
01:05:44.480
seems that
01:05:44.960
contraception
01:05:47.200
kind of leads
01:05:47.780
to an idea
01:05:48.940
that children
01:05:49.480
are side
01:05:50.820
effects
01:05:51.180
or kind
01:05:51.960
of leads
01:05:52.180
to the idea
01:05:52.500
that you
01:05:52.860
don't have
01:05:53.380
to have
01:05:53.660
kids
01:05:54.040
and kind
01:05:55.380
of seems
01:05:55.660
to lead
01:05:56.140
to the idea
01:05:57.100
that if you
01:05:57.540
are pregnant
01:05:58.080
then you
01:05:58.860
can get
01:05:59.340
rid of
01:05:59.600
it with
01:05:59.880
an abortion
01:06:00.360
that's a
01:06:02.000
great point
01:06:02.640
I've heard
01:06:04.260
cynical people
01:06:05.140
say that
01:06:05.560
life is a
01:06:06.240
fatal
01:06:06.540
sexually
01:06:07.140
transmitted
01:06:07.780
disease
01:06:08.280
and
01:06:09.160
unfortunately
01:06:09.860
the way
01:06:10.620
that sexual
01:06:11.820
education
01:06:12.300
is taught
01:06:12.860
very often
01:06:13.700
we are
01:06:14.040
taught that
01:06:14.520
babies are
01:06:15.300
a kind
01:06:15.920
of disease
01:06:16.420
or a kind
01:06:16.880
of punishment
01:06:17.320
when in fact
01:06:17.880
babies are
01:06:19.080
the greatest
01:06:20.040
gift from
01:06:20.660
God that
01:06:21.500
you're going
01:06:21.920
to have
01:06:22.280
in this
01:06:22.540
physical
01:06:22.860
world
01:06:23.400
and it's
01:06:27.040
very sad
01:06:27.740
because a
01:06:28.500
lot of
01:06:28.900
people
01:06:29.320
will struggle
01:06:30.580
by the time
01:06:31.080
they wake
01:06:31.420
up to this
01:06:31.840
fact
01:06:32.140
they may
01:06:32.760
struggle
01:06:33.160
to conceive
01:06:33.760
because they're
01:06:34.540
older and
01:06:34.960
they've put
01:06:35.340
things off
01:06:35.920
just as a
01:06:36.660
personal note
01:06:37.860
I've got
01:06:38.480
one baby
01:06:39.160
he's 13
01:06:41.060
14 months
01:06:41.820
old
01:06:42.200
I wish I
01:06:43.340
knew the
01:06:43.580
precise number
01:06:44.120
my wife's
01:06:44.540
going to yell
01:06:44.860
at me
01:06:45.040
when I get
01:06:45.380
home
01:06:45.600
I guess
01:06:45.900
he'll be
01:06:46.880
13 months
01:06:47.480
old
01:06:47.660
and I have
01:06:49.540
another baby
01:06:50.020
on the way
01:06:50.460
and I'm
01:06:50.700
very excited
01:06:51.260
but the
01:06:51.580
first one
01:06:52.000
didn't happen
01:06:52.480
right away
01:06:52.880
I thought
01:06:53.780
you know
01:06:54.640
this is going
01:06:55.120
to be
01:06:55.320
two seconds
01:06:55.920
I've been
01:06:56.220
told my
01:06:56.520
whole life
01:06:56.920
if you look
01:06:57.380
at a girl
01:06:57.660
the wrong
01:06:57.980
way she's
01:06:58.360
going to
01:06:58.600
get pregnant
01:06:59.040
and it
01:07:00.400
didn't happen
01:07:01.100
I have a
01:07:01.700
number of
01:07:02.020
friends who
01:07:02.400
have put
01:07:02.640
this off
01:07:03.140
and now
01:07:03.600
they're really
01:07:03.980
struggling
01:07:04.400
and they're
01:07:04.700
really upset
01:07:05.200
and it's a
01:07:05.600
huge problem
01:07:06.680
that we
01:07:07.000
realize all
01:07:08.020
too late
01:07:08.560
to your
01:07:10.340
point on
01:07:10.840
why the
01:07:11.360
pro-life
01:07:11.740
movement
01:07:12.080
doesn't
01:07:12.460
focus on
01:07:13.060
it
01:07:13.200
I think
01:07:14.120
it doesn't
01:07:14.480
focus on
01:07:15.000
it because
01:07:15.580
of priorities
01:07:17.000
because political
01:07:17.920
action requires
01:07:18.920
you to
01:07:19.280
prioritize certain
01:07:20.220
things
01:07:20.600
and on a
01:07:21.460
question such
01:07:22.240
as contraception
01:07:23.160
there is
01:07:23.880
huge
01:07:24.540
disagreement
01:07:25.120
even among
01:07:25.760
pro-lifers
01:07:26.320
even among
01:07:26.820
conservatives
01:07:27.360
on an issue
01:07:28.260
such as
01:07:28.780
in vitro
01:07:29.200
fertilization
01:07:29.920
the catholic
01:07:31.100
view and a
01:07:31.800
large part of
01:07:32.380
the pro-life
01:07:32.860
movement is
01:07:33.600
opposed to
01:07:34.060
in vitro
01:07:34.440
fertilization
01:07:35.100
but a lot
01:07:35.800
of people
01:07:36.120
are for it
01:07:36.760
as well
01:07:37.320
on the issue
01:07:38.120
of abortion
01:07:38.660
we're all
01:07:39.220
on board
01:07:39.700
we're all
01:07:40.120
on the same
01:07:40.620
team
01:07:40.940
and so there
01:07:41.580
might be
01:07:41.900
disagreements
01:07:42.520
and we
01:07:42.780
might believe
01:07:43.260
that certain
01:07:44.100
sides of
01:07:44.580
the pro-life
01:07:44.980
movement
01:07:45.240
don't understand
01:07:45.960
the bioethical
01:07:46.720
implications
01:07:47.160
of certain
01:07:47.640
things
01:07:47.940
but political
01:07:48.780
action requires
01:07:49.720
that you form
01:07:50.440
coalitions
01:07:51.260
and you fight
01:07:51.800
the battles
01:07:52.300
that are most
01:07:53.300
winnable
01:07:53.740
and most in
01:07:54.460
front of you
01:07:54.820
and right now
01:07:55.300
we're on the
01:07:55.920
verge of overruling
01:07:56.900
Roe vs. Wade
01:07:57.820
that could be
01:07:58.540
happening within
01:07:59.100
a matter of
01:07:59.680
weeks and a
01:08:00.200
matter of
01:08:00.540
months
01:08:00.840
and so I
01:08:01.760
think this
01:08:02.100
could be
01:08:02.400
the greatest
01:08:03.260
development in
01:08:04.940
American politics
01:08:05.720
in my lifetime
01:08:07.040
and so I just
01:08:08.420
think it's
01:08:08.880
we're going to
01:08:09.400
fight that battle
01:08:10.140
first and if we
01:08:11.000
can get that
01:08:11.560
win it will be
01:08:12.600
such a huge
01:08:13.440
victory
01:08:13.900
we can
01:08:14.700
hopefully
01:08:15.420
that major
01:08:16.500
victory
01:08:16.920
will inculcate
01:08:17.940
a culture of
01:08:18.580
life throughout
01:08:19.100
the country
01:08:19.600
and we can
01:08:20.240
deal with
01:08:20.520
these second
01:08:20.900
and third
01:08:21.220
order questions
01:08:21.960
after that
01:08:22.660
so I will
01:08:23.520
say also
01:08:24.120
one of the
01:08:24.620
things that I
01:08:25.140
think is
01:08:25.420
interesting and
01:08:26.000
fun about this
01:08:26.620
podcast is
01:08:27.460
that Michael
01:08:28.300
and I have
01:08:29.040
often very
01:08:29.700
different views
01:08:30.340
he is much
01:08:32.020
more of a
01:08:32.600
Burkean
01:08:32.980
conservative
01:08:33.540
I am much
01:08:34.280
more libertarian
01:08:35.160
he's a
01:08:37.480
Catholic
01:08:37.820
I'm a
01:08:38.440
Southern
01:08:38.620
Baptist
01:08:38.980
so as a
01:08:40.980
Southern
01:08:41.180
Baptist
01:08:41.580
you know
01:08:42.240
our views
01:08:42.780
on the
01:08:43.320
issue of
01:08:44.060
contraception
01:08:45.560
we're perfectly
01:08:46.380
fine with it
01:08:47.180
my view
01:08:49.140
I respect
01:08:50.000
the Catholic
01:08:50.560
Church's right
01:08:51.420
to set its
01:08:52.600
own rules
01:08:53.280
and standards
01:08:53.860
and have a
01:08:54.380
view on
01:08:55.400
contraception
01:08:56.260
and I
01:08:57.260
certainly will
01:08:58.040
defend the
01:08:59.380
religious liberty
01:09:00.060
of practicing
01:09:00.720
Catholics to
01:09:01.620
follow those
01:09:02.300
teachings
01:09:02.740
unlike the
01:09:03.620
current
01:09:03.880
administration
01:09:04.480
which sues
01:09:05.500
the Catholics
01:09:06.040
and the nuns
01:09:06.760
and the priests
01:09:07.340
for in any
01:09:08.160
way suggesting
01:09:09.460
that they should
01:09:11.120
follow their
01:09:11.520
own faith
01:09:12.000
by the way
01:09:12.520
I will say
01:09:13.140
as a
01:09:13.900
Southern
01:09:14.460
Baptist
01:09:14.880
there is
01:09:16.240
an old
01:09:16.600
line about
01:09:17.380
do you know
01:09:18.420
why it is
01:09:19.240
that Southern
01:09:20.060
Baptists are
01:09:20.760
opposed to
01:09:21.420
premarital
01:09:21.880
sex
01:09:22.440
why is that
01:09:23.620
well they're
01:09:24.340
afraid it
01:09:24.760
might lead
01:09:25.100
to dancing
01:09:25.660
again
01:09:27.540
you gotta
01:09:28.040
watch out
01:09:28.500
for that
01:09:28.840
but you know
01:09:29.760
look I
01:09:30.180
will say
01:09:31.140
there is
01:09:31.960
actually
01:09:32.540
outside of
01:09:33.560
the theological
01:09:34.320
you can make
01:09:35.380
your own
01:09:35.740
determinations
01:09:36.420
according to
01:09:36.980
your own
01:09:37.320
faith
01:09:37.700
on the
01:09:38.460
question of
01:09:38.920
contraception
01:09:39.640
but there
01:09:40.000
is an
01:09:40.380
important
01:09:41.000
political
01:09:42.000
and legal
01:09:42.500
distinction
01:09:43.020
which is
01:09:44.040
whether you
01:09:45.220
believe
01:09:45.580
contraception
01:09:46.400
is a good
01:09:46.820
or bad
01:09:47.200
thing
01:09:47.640
I don't
01:09:48.440
know of
01:09:48.720
anybody
01:09:49.120
arguing
01:09:49.620
it should
01:09:50.060
not be
01:09:50.440
legal
01:09:50.880
not yet
01:09:51.820
we haven't
01:09:52.460
gotten there
01:09:52.840
yet
01:09:53.120
look everyone
01:09:55.740
agrees
01:09:56.440
I remember
01:09:57.280
when I was
01:09:57.660
in college
01:09:58.120
we literally
01:09:58.640
had condom
01:09:59.780
machines
01:10:00.200
in the
01:10:00.720
restroom
01:10:01.100
for 50
01:10:01.600
cents
01:10:01.940
and some
01:10:03.120
of the
01:10:03.320
most fun
01:10:03.800
I had
01:10:04.120
was freshman
01:10:04.640
year
01:10:04.900
when a
01:10:05.180
guy came
01:10:05.660
banging on
01:10:06.140
my door
01:10:06.480
and said
01:10:06.680
dude I
01:10:07.160
need 50
01:10:07.540
cents
01:10:07.740
come on
01:10:08.020
man I
01:10:08.220
really need
01:10:08.520
50 cents
01:10:09.000
now
01:10:09.220
and I
01:10:09.400
said
01:10:09.500
really why
01:10:10.420
what's
01:10:10.740
going on
01:10:11.180
I've got
01:10:11.440
a dollar
01:10:11.920
will that
01:10:12.380
help
01:10:12.640
he's like
01:10:13.160
man stop
01:10:13.580
screwing
01:10:13.920
with it
01:10:14.080
give me
01:10:14.260
50 cents
01:10:14.800
right now
01:10:15.320
this is a
01:10:16.440
slight
01:10:16.620
digression
01:10:17.060
by the
01:10:17.600
time I
01:10:17.900
got to
01:10:18.160
college
01:10:18.480
which wasn't
01:10:19.100
all that
01:10:19.380
much later
01:10:19.880
they were
01:10:20.560
free
01:10:20.840
they actually
01:10:21.960
in every
01:10:22.640
dorm hall
01:10:23.220
they had
01:10:23.540
them for
01:10:23.820
free
01:10:24.080
but of
01:10:25.240
course
01:10:25.620
being these
01:10:26.640
kind of
01:10:26.920
nerdy
01:10:27.300
students
01:10:27.940
it was
01:10:29.520
mostly
01:10:29.940
balloon
01:10:30.320
animals
01:10:30.840
we got
01:10:32.980
an email
01:10:33.320
from the
01:10:33.680
administration
01:10:34.060
they said
01:10:34.460
we know
01:10:34.900
that you
01:10:35.220
people are
01:10:35.640
not having
01:10:36.060
this much
01:10:36.420
sex
01:10:36.800
quit
01:10:37.340
taking
01:10:38.220
all the
01:10:38.480
condoms
01:10:38.820
thank you
01:10:41.100
hey y'all
01:10:49.840
michael
01:10:50.580
senator
01:10:51.140
just want
01:10:51.680
to say
01:10:52.060
roll tide
01:10:52.600
first of all
01:10:53.560
senator
01:10:57.920
before you
01:10:58.900
started
01:10:59.200
they showed
01:10:59.580
us a clip
01:11:00.820
of you
01:11:01.120
talking about
01:11:01.680
the russian
01:11:02.040
pipeline
01:11:02.640
and how
01:11:03.160
russia uses
01:11:03.820
it to keep
01:11:04.660
europe dependent
01:11:05.380
on russia
01:11:06.020
for energy
01:11:06.640
i was wondering
01:11:07.660
what are you
01:11:08.640
doing to keep
01:11:09.280
america
01:11:09.700
independent
01:11:10.300
from any
01:11:12.400
other place
01:11:12.940
for energy
01:11:13.400
through clean
01:11:14.220
nuclear power
01:11:15.020
so fantastic
01:11:17.080
question
01:11:17.600
when it comes
01:11:19.120
to energy
01:11:19.760
i think american
01:11:20.620
energy independence
01:11:21.560
it's a question
01:11:22.320
of national security
01:11:23.320
but it's also
01:11:23.920
a question
01:11:24.300
of prosperity
01:11:24.960
if you look
01:11:27.680
at economic
01:11:28.380
prosperity
01:11:29.100
it follows
01:11:30.580
inexpensive
01:11:32.100
widely available
01:11:33.320
energy
01:11:33.720
and that's true
01:11:34.320
in the united
01:11:34.720
states
01:11:35.120
that's true
01:11:35.580
globally
01:11:36.020
i think we
01:11:37.100
ought to be
01:11:37.480
pursuing an
01:11:38.140
all of the above
01:11:38.920
approach
01:11:39.320
i think that
01:11:39.780
means nuclear
01:11:40.500
we ought to
01:11:41.300
get the
01:11:41.820
unnecessary
01:11:42.380
regulations
01:11:43.160
out of the
01:11:43.760
way to
01:11:44.160
developing
01:11:44.640
nuclear power
01:11:46.120
plants
01:11:46.620
it is
01:11:47.380
clean
01:11:48.120
it is
01:11:48.520
affordable
01:11:49.080
it has
01:11:49.660
no emissions
01:11:50.940
it also
01:11:52.040
means oil
01:11:53.020
gas
01:11:53.700
solar
01:11:54.600
wind
01:11:55.720
bio
01:11:56.620
all of
01:11:57.380
the above
01:11:58.180
but one of
01:11:59.680
the most
01:12:00.060
indefensible
01:12:00.980
policies
01:12:01.620
we've seen
01:12:02.340
the last
01:12:02.860
year under
01:12:03.480
the biden
01:12:03.880
administration
01:12:04.400
is we've
01:12:04.920
taken a
01:12:05.300
step back
01:12:05.820
on energy
01:12:06.260
independence
01:12:06.720
we're right
01:12:07.460
now importing
01:12:08.760
energy from
01:12:09.640
the enemies
01:12:10.260
of america
01:12:10.980
american
01:12:11.600
production is
01:12:12.400
down
01:12:12.800
american jobs
01:12:14.220
are down
01:12:14.720
and if you
01:12:15.120
want to know
01:12:15.500
the reason
01:12:16.120
that your
01:12:17.000
gasoline
01:12:17.620
that it
01:12:18.160
costs you
01:12:18.580
100 bucks
01:12:19.220
or 150
01:12:19.780
bucks
01:12:20.220
to fill
01:12:20.960
your truck
01:12:21.600
it is
01:12:22.880
because the
01:12:23.720
biden
01:12:24.040
administration
01:12:24.820
declared a
01:12:25.540
war on
01:12:26.540
american
01:12:27.040
energy
01:12:27.560
production
01:12:28.180
and this
01:12:29.180
ought to be
01:12:29.620
an issue
01:12:30.000
that brings
01:12:30.440
all of us
01:12:30.960
together
01:12:31.320
as we
01:12:31.640
ought to
01:12:31.860
produce
01:12:32.320
as much
01:12:33.340
energy as
01:12:33.940
possible
01:12:34.380
here
01:12:34.680
to lower
01:12:35.120
the prices
01:12:35.740
and that
01:12:36.580
also
01:12:37.020
is the
01:12:37.720
best
01:12:38.040
for the
01:12:38.360
environment
01:12:38.920
because
01:12:39.560
american
01:12:39.980
energy
01:12:40.340
is much
01:12:40.760
cleaner
01:12:41.100
here
01:12:41.440
than
01:12:41.860
is
01:12:42.080
energy
01:12:42.720
produced
01:12:43.120
abroad
01:12:43.500
hello
01:12:55.060
my name
01:12:55.600
is
01:12:55.720
jake
01:12:56.020
i'm
01:12:56.340
somewhat
01:12:56.620
on the
01:12:56.840
left
01:12:56.960
side
01:12:57.140
of
01:12:57.220
the
01:12:57.320
aisle
01:12:57.520
but
01:12:57.700
i'm
01:12:57.880
very
01:12:58.240
open
01:12:58.580
minded
01:12:58.960
and
01:12:59.320
willing
01:12:59.620
to
01:12:59.700
entertain
01:13:00.000
conversations
01:13:00.640
with
01:13:00.880
anyone
01:13:01.240
i have
01:13:02.000
noticed
01:13:02.280
that
01:13:02.540
social
01:13:02.840
media
01:13:03.120
censorship
01:13:03.620
affects
01:13:04.160
progressive
01:13:04.620
users
01:13:05.020
on a
01:13:05.380
similar
01:13:05.600
level
01:13:05.900
with
01:13:06.140
conservatives
01:13:06.620
and it
01:13:07.200
seems
01:13:07.500
that
01:13:07.760
twitter
01:13:08.040
has
01:13:08.420
no
01:13:08.660
problem
01:13:09.200
keeping
01:13:09.820
the
01:13:10.040
status
01:13:10.340
quo
01:13:10.640
and
01:13:10.880
censoring
01:13:11.320
people
01:13:11.620
that
01:13:11.800
question
01:13:12.140
authority
01:13:12.600
have you
01:13:13.360
ever
01:13:13.520
considered
01:13:13.860
reaching out
01:13:14.500
to populist
01:13:15.120
politicians
01:13:15.620
on the
01:13:16.020
other
01:13:16.180
side
01:13:16.400
of the
01:13:16.600
aisle
01:13:16.820
to try
01:13:17.120
to figure
01:13:17.400
out a
01:13:17.640
common
01:13:17.900
solution
01:13:18.320
about
01:13:18.580
free
01:13:18.880
speech
01:13:19.160
with
01:13:19.320
big
01:13:19.520
tech
01:13:19.740
so
01:13:20.920
it's
01:13:21.100
a
01:13:21.180
great
01:13:21.380
question
01:13:21.860
and i
01:13:22.100
will
01:13:22.200
say
01:13:22.440
you're
01:13:22.660
very
01:13:22.900
open
01:13:23.260
minded
01:13:23.660
and
01:13:24.200
with
01:13:24.680
a
01:13:24.800
white
01:13:25.000
socks
01:13:25.320
shirt
01:13:25.620
i can
01:13:26.140
see
01:13:26.380
that
01:13:26.700
as
01:13:27.060
an
01:13:29.380
astros
01:13:29.860
fan
01:13:30.240
i'm
01:13:31.200
open
01:13:31.520
minded
01:13:31.820
as
01:13:32.060
well
01:13:32.300
look
01:13:35.180
it
01:13:36.260
ought
01:13:36.640
to be
01:13:37.240
a
01:13:37.480
natural
01:13:38.020
overlap
01:13:38.760
and
01:13:39.120
so
01:13:39.820
for
01:13:40.120
example
01:13:40.740
a
01:13:41.140
couple
01:13:41.280
of
01:13:41.420
years
01:13:41.700
ago
01:13:42.160
elizabeth
01:13:43.220
warren
01:13:43.800
bought
01:13:45.720
ads
01:13:46.280
on
01:13:46.480
facebook
01:13:46.920
saying
01:13:47.740
break up
01:13:48.400
facebook
01:13:48.880
and
01:13:50.040
facebook
01:13:50.580
being
01:13:51.180
morons
01:13:52.000
blocked
01:13:53.460
her
01:13:53.640
ads
01:13:53.960
and said
01:13:54.260
we're
01:13:54.380
not
01:13:54.540
going
01:13:54.660
to
01:13:54.720
allow
01:13:54.900
you
01:13:55.040
to
01:13:55.140
run
01:13:55.280
the
01:13:55.440
ads
01:13:55.760
which
01:13:56.580
was
01:13:56.780
really
01:13:57.240
stupid
01:13:57.860
and
01:13:59.220
she
01:14:00.300
put
01:14:00.880
out
01:14:01.160
a
01:14:01.420
tweet
01:14:01.780
because
01:14:02.780
facebook
01:14:03.180
blocked
01:14:03.620
her
01:14:03.760
saying
01:14:04.240
you know
01:14:04.500
this
01:14:04.740
shows
01:14:05.140
how
01:14:05.340
big
01:14:05.600
tech
01:14:05.840
has
01:14:06.060
too
01:14:06.220
much
01:14:06.440
power
01:14:06.900
that
01:14:07.500
they're
01:14:07.700
able
01:14:07.880
to
01:14:08.040
block
01:14:08.320
my
01:14:08.580
ads
01:14:09.020
i
01:14:09.260
did
01:14:09.840
something
01:14:10.220
i
01:14:10.440
very
01:14:10.700
rarely
01:14:11.020
do
01:14:11.420
i
01:14:11.900
retweeted
01:14:12.600
elizabeth
01:14:12.980
warren
01:14:13.460
the
01:14:14.480
one
01:14:14.700
and
01:14:15.180
only
01:14:15.360
time
01:14:15.780
and
01:14:16.440
in
01:14:16.640
fact
01:14:17.000
not
01:14:17.360
only
01:14:17.680
that
01:14:18.140
at
01:14:18.780
the
01:14:18.920
time
01:14:19.260
republicans
01:14:19.820
had a
01:14:20.040
majority
01:14:20.380
in
01:14:20.560
the
01:14:20.720
senate
01:14:20.960
and
01:14:21.200
i
01:14:21.360
chaired
01:14:21.720
multiple
01:14:22.180
hearings
01:14:22.680
on
01:14:22.900
big
01:14:23.120
tech
01:14:23.340
censorship
01:14:23.880
i
01:14:24.740
asked
01:14:25.020
elizabeth
01:14:25.380
to come
01:14:25.700
testify
01:14:26.220
unfortunately
01:14:28.280
she
01:14:28.740
declined
01:14:29.240
and
01:14:30.840
i can
01:14:31.140
tell you
01:14:31.660
from my
01:14:32.260
end
01:14:32.580
i've
01:14:32.980
tried
01:14:33.360
to
01:14:33.580
reach
01:14:33.840
out
01:14:34.080
to
01:14:34.240
those
01:14:34.520
on
01:14:34.660
the
01:14:34.780
left
01:14:35.200
even
01:14:37.620
the
01:14:38.100
self
01:14:38.720
styled
01:14:39.320
populists
01:14:40.080
on
01:14:40.260
the
01:14:40.400
left
01:14:40.840
have
01:14:42.100
not
01:14:42.480
been
01:14:42.760
willing
01:14:43.100
to
01:14:43.340
take
01:14:43.600
on
01:14:43.820
big
01:14:44.060
tech
01:14:44.380
on
01:14:44.560
censorship
01:14:45.180
and
01:14:46.460
and
01:14:46.740
it's
01:14:47.220
you know
01:14:47.500
when we
01:14:47.840
have
01:14:48.060
hearings
01:14:48.560
in the
01:14:48.880
senate
01:14:49.080
on
01:14:49.300
censorship
01:14:49.780
it's
01:14:50.540
almost
01:14:50.740
like
01:14:50.980
ships
01:14:51.240
passing
01:14:51.620
in
01:14:51.760
the
01:14:51.820
night
01:14:52.120
where
01:14:53.340
where
01:14:54.280
many
01:14:54.640
on
01:14:54.900
the
01:14:55.040
right
01:14:55.280
say
01:14:55.540
you
01:14:55.720
censor
01:14:56.080
too
01:14:56.280
much
01:14:56.700
but
01:14:58.380
many
01:14:59.180
on
01:14:59.340
the
01:14:59.460
left
01:14:59.720
are
01:14:59.880
telling
01:15:00.140
them
01:15:00.300
they
01:15:00.500
don't
01:15:00.840
censor
01:15:01.360
enough
01:15:01.940
and
01:15:03.400
and
01:15:03.420
and
01:15:03.440
and
01:15:03.700
and
01:15:03.720
and
01:15:03.740
i
01:15:03.820
mean
01:15:03.920
we've
01:15:04.200
had
01:15:04.360
hearings
01:15:04.760
basically
01:15:05.320
where
01:15:05.600
democrats
01:15:06.040
are
01:15:06.480
yelling
01:15:06.980
at
01:15:07.180
mark
01:15:07.400
zuckerberg
01:15:08.000
why
01:15:08.760
did
01:15:09.120
you
01:15:09.280
let
01:15:09.520
trump
01:15:09.920
win
01:15:10.260
in
01:15:10.440
2016
01:15:11.120
how
01:15:11.920
could
01:15:12.180
you
01:15:12.360
possibly
01:15:13.020
let
01:15:13.340
anyone
01:15:13.660
speak
01:15:14.100
on
01:15:14.300
that
01:15:14.520
side
01:15:14.780
of
01:15:14.880
the
01:15:15.020
aisle
01:15:15.360
and
01:15:17.020
i
01:15:17.140
gotta
01:15:17.280
tell
01:15:17.620
you
01:15:17.760
it
01:15:17.980
is
01:15:18.160
not
01:15:18.520
an
01:15:18.820
accidental
01:15:19.500
shift
01:15:20.100
in
01:15:21.220
big
01:15:21.480
tech
01:15:21.840
that
01:15:22.100
there's
01:15:22.880
there's
01:15:23.580
a
01:15:23.720
document
01:15:24.160
that i
01:15:24.460
discussed
01:15:24.840
in one
01:15:25.120
of
01:15:25.200
these
01:15:25.340
hearings
01:15:25.640
i
01:15:25.840
chaired
01:15:26.120
that google
01:15:26.560
prepared
01:15:26.960
it's
01:15:27.160
called
01:15:27.320
the
01:15:27.480
good
01:15:27.660
censor
01:15:28.140
and
01:15:28.980
this
01:15:29.180
is
01:15:29.360
a
01:15:29.540
google
01:15:29.860
powerpoint
01:15:30.480
it's
01:15:30.560
about
01:15:30.680
50
01:15:30.980
pages
01:15:31.340
they
01:15:31.540
made
01:15:31.820
it
01:15:32.020
and
01:15:32.820
they
01:15:32.960
described
01:15:33.520
how
01:15:33.820
the
01:15:34.040
old
01:15:34.580
view
01:15:34.940
of
01:15:35.140
the
01:15:35.280
internet
01:15:35.560
was
01:15:36.540
and
01:15:36.680
this
01:15:36.820
is
01:15:36.940
using
01:15:37.200
their
01:15:37.460
language
01:15:38.040
the
01:15:38.640
laissez
01:15:39.340
faire
01:15:39.760
free
01:15:40.120
speech
01:15:40.500
model
01:15:40.860
in
01:15:41.060
other
01:15:41.240
words
01:15:41.380
let
01:15:41.580
everyone
01:15:41.860
speak
01:15:42.340
and
01:15:43.320
then
01:15:43.440
they
01:15:43.580
described
01:15:44.240
how
01:15:44.700
big
01:15:45.080
tech
01:15:45.480
had
01:15:45.660
made
01:15:45.880
a
01:15:46.080
conscious
01:15:46.540
decision
01:15:47.280
towards
01:15:48.080
a
01:15:48.260
different
01:15:48.560
model
01:15:48.920
and
01:15:49.060
here's
01:15:49.280
what
01:15:49.420
they
01:15:49.560
called
01:15:49.900
it
01:15:50.080
the
01:15:50.760
European
01:15:51.240
style
01:15:52.000
censorship
01:15:52.640
model
01:15:53.140
and
01:15:54.040
google
01:15:54.360
identified
01:15:54.960
four
01:15:55.420
companies
01:15:55.880
that
01:15:56.080
made
01:15:56.320
that
01:15:56.520
decision
01:15:57.040
google
01:15:57.960
facebook
01:15:58.500
twitter
01:15:59.020
and
01:15:59.320
youtube
01:15:59.660
which
01:16:00.420
google
01:16:00.740
wholly
01:16:01.040
owns
01:16:01.420
this
01:16:02.720
is
01:16:03.040
an
01:16:03.200
explicit
01:16:03.900
decision
01:16:04.540
and by
01:16:04.960
the
01:16:05.120
way
01:16:05.420
the
01:16:05.940
paroxysms
01:16:07.040
that
01:16:07.260
we're
01:16:07.460
seeing
01:16:08.100
not only
01:16:09.260
from
01:16:09.540
twitter
01:16:09.940
but
01:16:10.300
from
01:16:10.900
the
01:16:11.280
media
01:16:11.980
about
01:16:12.820
Elon Musk
01:16:13.440
potentially
01:16:13.920
buying
01:16:14.320
twitter
01:16:14.640
show
01:16:14.940
this
01:16:15.180
is
01:16:15.340
a
01:16:15.520
conscious
01:16:15.880
decision
01:16:16.420
it's
01:16:16.760
not
01:16:17.080
an
01:16:17.740
accidental
01:16:18.300
drift
01:16:18.820
it
01:16:19.040
is
01:16:19.240
we
01:16:19.500
will
01:16:19.800
silence
01:16:20.380
view
01:16:20.660
so
01:16:20.880
what
01:16:21.080
I
01:16:21.240
would
01:16:21.400
encourage
01:16:21.820
I
01:16:22.700
will
01:16:22.900
say
01:16:23.220
again
01:16:23.580
what
01:16:23.780
I
01:16:23.920
said
01:16:24.160
to
01:16:24.300
the
01:16:24.420
other
01:16:24.560
young
01:16:24.780
lady
01:16:25.020
who
01:16:25.180
was
01:16:25.360
here
01:16:25.560
thank
01:16:25.980
you
01:16:26.180
for
01:16:26.400
coming
01:16:26.820
particularly
01:16:27.920
if
01:16:28.320
your
01:16:28.740
views
01:16:29.000
are
01:16:29.160
different
01:16:29.440
thank
01:16:29.740
you
01:16:29.840
for
01:16:29.960
being
01:16:30.160
part
01:16:30.420
of
01:16:30.520
this
01:16:30.680
conversation
01:16:31.340
I
01:16:32.420
would
01:16:32.740
love
01:16:33.280
to
01:16:33.540
see
01:16:33.960
people
01:16:35.620
on
01:16:35.940
the
01:16:36.160
left
01:16:36.520
engage
01:16:37.560
and
01:16:38.940
engage
01:16:39.580
in
01:16:39.780
defense
01:16:40.180
of
01:16:40.380
free
01:16:40.640
speech
01:16:41.100
right
01:16:41.540
now
01:16:42.160
there
01:16:44.680
are
01:16:44.860
too
01:16:45.120
few
01:16:45.440
there
01:16:45.660
are
01:16:45.840
almost
01:16:46.400
no
01:16:46.820
elected
01:16:47.540
voices
01:16:48.140
on
01:16:49.120
the
01:16:49.300
left
01:16:49.700
that
01:16:50.360
defend
01:16:50.760
free
01:16:51.060
speech
01:16:51.440
and
01:16:51.600
we've
01:16:51.920
got
01:16:52.160
to
01:16:52.420
find
01:16:52.740
a
01:16:52.940
way
01:16:53.280
to
01:16:53.900
help
01:16:54.540
you
01:16:54.900
know
01:16:54.980
one
01:16:55.160
of
01:16:55.260
the
01:16:55.360
real
01:16:55.580
illustrations
01:16:56.140
of
01:16:56.500
that
01:16:56.720
you
01:16:56.880
know
01:16:57.000
who's
01:16:57.260
bizarrely
01:16:58.020
become
01:16:58.360
a
01:16:58.500
conservative
01:16:59.000
is
01:17:00.120
Bill
01:17:00.360
Maher
01:17:00.720
yeah
01:17:01.540
now
01:17:01.860
Bill
01:17:02.080
Maher
01:17:02.360
is
01:17:02.500
not
01:17:02.700
a
01:17:02.820
conservative
01:17:03.280
no
01:17:03.760
but
01:17:04.320
Bill
01:17:04.600
Maher
01:17:04.860
is
01:17:05.040
an
01:17:05.180
old
01:17:05.520
school
01:17:05.940
liberal
01:17:06.500
which
01:17:07.540
means
01:17:07.840
among
01:17:08.060
other
01:17:08.300
things
01:17:08.700
he
01:17:08.900
believes
01:17:09.300
in
01:17:09.520
things
01:17:09.880
like
01:17:10.160
free
01:17:10.480
speech
01:17:11.140
which
01:17:12.120
in
01:17:12.340
today's
01:17:12.960
upside
01:17:13.300
down
01:17:13.760
world
01:17:14.220
makes
01:17:14.720
an
01:17:14.880
old
01:17:15.120
school
01:17:15.420
liberal
01:17:15.860
seem
01:17:16.220
like
01:17:16.420
a
01:17:16.540
conservative
01:17:16.980
or
01:17:17.260
Rogan
01:17:17.680
Rogan
01:17:18.240
is
01:17:18.580
I think
01:17:19.180
a great
01:17:19.720
example
01:17:20.040
of what
01:17:20.300
you're
01:17:20.420
talking
01:17:20.760
about
01:17:21.000
he
01:17:21.280
was
01:17:21.680
too
01:17:21.920
big
01:17:22.360
to
01:17:22.760
totally
01:17:23.240
kick
01:17:23.540
off
01:17:23.800
of
01:17:24.080
the
01:17:24.280
social
01:17:24.580
media
01:17:24.780
platforms
01:17:25.260
but
01:17:25.980
they
01:17:26.180
did
01:17:26.360
censor
01:17:26.740
his
01:17:26.920
podcasts
01:17:27.500
when
01:17:27.760
those
01:17:27.940
podcasts
01:17:28.460
contradicted
01:17:29.340
the
01:17:29.560
ruling
01:17:29.880
regime
01:17:30.460
Rogan
01:17:31.600
is
01:17:32.060
a
01:17:32.400
Bernie
01:17:32.620
bro
01:17:32.960
but
01:17:33.260
because
01:17:33.680
he
01:17:33.800
was
01:17:33.940
threatening
01:17:34.260
the
01:17:34.480
liberal
01:17:34.720
establishment
01:17:35.280
they
01:17:35.760
really
01:17:35.960
came
01:17:36.220
down
01:17:36.420
pretty
01:17:36.660
hard
01:17:36.940
and
01:17:37.060
they
01:17:37.180
largely
01:17:37.560
succeeded
01:17:38.460
it's
01:17:39.200
worth
01:17:39.440
remembering
01:17:39.940
that
01:17:40.660
we're
01:17:41.500
not
01:17:41.780
saying
01:17:42.260
that
01:17:42.580
at least
01:17:43.560
I'm
01:17:43.740
not
01:17:43.900
saying
01:17:44.100
that
01:17:44.260
absolutely
01:17:45.000
anything
01:17:45.540
should be
01:17:46.300
permissible
01:17:46.700
on these
01:17:47.080
platforms
01:17:47.600
I don't
01:17:48.420
think
01:17:48.720
snuff
01:17:49.300
videos
01:17:49.700
should
01:17:50.160
be
01:17:50.300
allowed
01:17:50.640
animal
01:17:51.600
torture
01:17:52.120
content
01:17:52.760
I think
01:17:53.120
that should
01:17:53.400
probably
01:17:53.800
be
01:17:54.140
snuffed
01:17:55.000
out
01:17:55.240
as it
01:17:55.520
were
01:17:55.680
I don't
01:17:56.220
think
01:17:56.400
that
01:17:56.540
direct
01:17:56.800
threats
01:17:57.180
should
01:17:57.380
be
01:17:57.500
allowed
01:17:57.760
I mean
01:17:57.980
there
01:17:58.680
are
01:17:59.460
limits
01:17:59.940
on
01:18:00.160
these
01:18:00.340
sorts
01:18:00.560
of
01:18:00.700
things
01:18:00.920
because
01:18:01.420
every
01:18:01.940
society
01:18:02.780
has
01:18:03.140
standards
01:18:03.840
and
01:18:04.420
taboos
01:18:04.960
every
01:18:05.200
society
01:18:05.620
that there
01:18:05.920
has
01:18:06.020
ever been
01:18:06.460
and
01:18:08.460
so what
01:18:08.720
the left
01:18:09.100
has
01:18:09.320
done
01:18:09.600
is
01:18:10.080
they've
01:18:10.520
used
01:18:11.340
an
01:18:11.700
argument
01:18:12.300
sort
01:18:12.740
of
01:18:12.880
for
01:18:13.040
free
01:18:13.320
speech
01:18:13.680
as
01:18:14.160
merely
01:18:14.700
an
01:18:14.980
instrument
01:18:15.440
to
01:18:15.880
upend
01:18:16.280
all
01:18:16.500
of
01:18:16.600
our
01:18:16.720
traditional
01:18:17.140
standards
01:18:17.680
you have
01:18:18.100
the
01:18:18.200
free
01:18:18.380
speech
01:18:18.620
movement
01:18:18.900
at
01:18:19.080
Berkeley
01:18:19.380
in
01:18:19.560
the
01:18:19.680
60s
01:18:20.100
all
01:18:20.480
of a
01:18:20.740
sudden
01:18:20.920
now
01:18:21.220
they're
01:18:21.660
censoring
01:18:22.100
the
01:18:22.240
New York
01:18:22.540
Post
01:18:22.820
from
01:18:23.020
reporting
01:18:23.400
on
01:18:23.580
the
01:18:23.720
Biden
01:18:23.960
family
01:18:24.340
corruption
01:18:24.780
weeks
01:18:25.400
before
01:18:25.680
a
01:18:25.860
presidential
01:18:26.220
election
01:18:26.760
and
01:18:27.120
so I
01:18:27.340
think
01:18:27.560
it
01:18:27.660
is
01:18:27.780
important
01:18:28.080
also
01:18:28.480
for
01:18:28.980
conservatives
01:18:29.580
and
01:18:29.820
just
01:18:29.980
ordinary
01:18:30.360
people
01:18:30.800
to
01:18:31.220
articulate
01:18:31.660
what
01:18:32.160
our
01:18:32.720
standards
01:18:33.100
are
01:18:33.360
what
01:18:33.540
our
01:18:33.680
norms
01:18:34.100
are
01:18:34.300
what
01:18:34.500
our
01:18:34.660
taboos
01:18:35.200
are
01:18:35.520
because
01:18:36.020
if we
01:18:36.420
don't
01:18:36.620
do
01:18:36.800
that
01:18:36.960
if we
01:18:37.140
don't
01:18:37.240
have
01:18:37.340
a
01:18:37.460
substantive
01:18:37.880
vision
01:18:38.360
of
01:18:38.840
politics
01:18:39.460
then
01:18:39.940
the
01:18:40.160
right
01:18:40.480
of
01:18:40.580
free
01:18:40.800
speech
01:18:41.080
in
01:18:41.200
the
01:18:41.300
abstract
01:18:41.640
isn't
01:18:42.100
going
01:18:42.280
to
01:18:42.460
mean
01:18:42.660
anything
01:18:42.980
to
01:18:43.420
people
01:18:43.680
who
01:18:43.820
have
01:18:43.960
nothing
01:18:44.220
to
01:18:44.420
say
01:18:44.740
and
01:18:45.140
all
01:18:45.320
of
01:18:45.440
a
01:18:45.540
sudden
01:18:45.720
the
01:18:45.880
norms
01:18:46.160
are
01:18:46.300
going
01:18:46.420
to
01:18:46.460
be
01:18:46.700
obscenity
01:18:47.780
is
01:18:48.000
fine
01:18:48.440
pornography
01:18:49.220
is
01:18:49.520
fine
01:18:49.960
threats
01:18:50.760
as long
01:18:51.440
as they're
01:18:51.720
against
01:18:51.960
conservatives
01:18:52.440
are
01:19:01.220
what
01:19:01.820
we
01:19:01.940
really
01:19:02.180
believe
01:19:02.540
I'd
01:19:03.300
also
01:19:03.460
be
01:19:03.640
curious
01:19:04.000
and
01:19:04.440
I guess
01:19:04.860
this
01:19:05.040
relates
01:19:05.360
less
01:19:05.820
to
01:19:06.200
members
01:19:06.900
of
01:19:07.160
Congress
01:19:07.540
although
01:19:07.800
perhaps
01:19:08.140
they
01:19:08.280
should
01:19:08.360
be
01:19:08.460
asked
01:19:08.600
this
01:19:08.720
question
01:19:08.960
too
01:19:09.160
and
01:19:09.340
more
01:19:09.560
to
01:19:09.820
your
01:19:10.080
peers
01:19:10.540
leftists
01:19:11.480
on
01:19:11.700
college
01:19:11.940
campus
01:19:12.180
I'd
01:19:12.620
be
01:19:12.740
interested
01:19:13.080
to hear
01:19:13.360
their
01:19:13.520
answer
01:19:13.860
if
01:19:14.420
you
01:19:14.560
ask
01:19:14.860
them
01:19:15.080
what
01:19:15.380
are
01:19:15.500
you
01:19:15.640
afraid
01:19:16.060
of
01:19:16.440
if
01:19:16.920
you
01:19:17.060
attend
01:19:17.360
a
01:19:17.480
conservative
01:19:17.840
event
01:19:18.200
what
01:19:18.420
are
01:19:18.740
you
01:19:18.860
afraid
01:19:19.260
of
01:19:19.560
if
01:19:19.740
you
01:19:19.860
hear
01:19:20.160
conservative
01:19:20.620
principles
01:19:21.020
what
01:19:21.220
are
01:19:21.300
you
01:19:21.380
afraid
01:19:21.780
of
01:19:22.080
if
01:19:22.560
you
01:19:22.780
are
01:19:23.200
part
01:19:23.680
of
01:19:24.100
a
01:19:24.320
dialogue
01:19:24.740
with
01:19:25.140
someone
01:19:25.500
who
01:19:26.180
opposes
01:19:26.960
your
01:19:27.160
viewpoints
01:19:27.600
whether
01:19:27.820
it's
01:19:28.060
on a
01:19:28.260
practical
01:19:28.560
matter
01:19:28.860
a
01:19:29.020
policy
01:19:29.280
issue
01:19:29.580
or
01:19:29.760
an
01:19:29.860
ideology
01:19:30.280
are
01:19:30.780
you
01:19:30.920
afraid
01:19:31.400
that
01:19:31.840
you're
01:19:32.100
going
01:19:32.280
to
01:19:32.380
be
01:19:32.500
disproven
01:19:33.080
are
01:19:33.320
you
01:19:33.480
afraid
01:19:33.840
that
01:19:34.060
conservatives
01:19:34.460
might
01:19:34.700
be
01:19:34.940
correct
01:19:35.620
on
01:19:35.800
something
01:19:36.000
what
01:19:36.420
is
01:19:36.820
the
01:19:37.500
fear
01:19:37.700
because
01:19:37.920
what's
01:19:38.400
happened
01:19:38.780
on
01:19:38.980
campuses
01:19:39.780
and
01:19:39.960
I
01:19:40.060
guess
01:19:40.180
even
01:19:40.380
earlier
01:19:40.760
in
01:19:41.060
high
01:19:41.560
school
01:19:41.820
and
01:19:41.960
elementary
01:19:42.340
school
01:19:42.640
is
01:19:42.840
kids
01:19:43.280
are
01:19:43.420
just
01:19:43.640
taught
01:19:44.160
not
01:19:44.780
to
01:19:44.940
have
01:19:45.080
these
01:19:45.240
conversations
01:19:45.760
anymore
01:19:46.140
but
01:19:46.360
I
01:19:46.460
think
01:19:46.800
a
01:19:47.040
lot
01:19:47.300
of
01:19:47.440
them
01:19:47.720
on
01:19:48.260
a
01:19:48.400
personal
01:19:48.780
level
01:19:49.220
would
01:19:49.740
actually
01:19:50.140
enjoy
01:19:50.520
having
01:19:50.840
the
01:19:50.980
conversations
01:19:51.400
would
01:19:51.640
actually
01:19:52.180
benefit
01:19:53.580
from
01:19:53.880
the
01:19:54.020
conversations
01:19:54.440
not
01:19:54.660
just
01:19:54.800
by
01:19:54.920
my
01:19:55.160
standards
01:19:55.440
but
01:19:55.680
even
01:19:55.920
in
01:19:56.060
their
01:19:56.180
own
01:19:56.400
beliefs
01:19:56.780
yet
01:19:57.160
they're
01:19:57.340
told
01:19:57.840
by
01:19:58.180
someone
01:19:58.480
else
01:19:58.760
that
01:19:58.900
they're
01:19:58.980
not
01:19:59.160
supposed
01:19:59.540
to
01:19:59.740
do
01:19:59.880
that
01:20:00.040
so
01:20:00.340
I'd
01:20:00.520
be
01:20:00.620
interested
01:20:00.960
in
01:20:01.400
hearing
01:20:02.120
the
01:20:02.300
answer
01:20:02.580
from
01:20:02.780
your
01:20:02.920
peers
01:20:03.160
of
01:20:03.320
what
01:20:03.500
they're
01:20:03.700
afraid
01:20:04.040
of
01:20:04.400
just
01:20:05.060
in
01:20:05.180
engaging
01:20:05.540
in
01:20:05.680
those
01:20:05.800
conversations
01:20:06.220
themselves
01:20:06.860
thank
01:20:08.180
you
01:20:09.420
good
01:20:17.620
evening
01:20:17.880
I've
01:20:19.340
got a
01:20:19.800
two-part
01:20:20.480
question
01:20:20.860
for y'all
01:20:21.260
first part
01:20:21.960
is
01:20:22.160
if you
01:20:22.960
could
01:20:23.100
pass
01:20:23.420
any
01:20:23.660
constitutional
01:20:24.280
amendment
01:20:24.720
what
01:20:25.280
kind
01:20:25.580
of
01:20:25.700
amendment
01:20:26.000
do
01:20:26.200
you
01:20:26.300
think
01:20:26.480
would
01:20:26.580
do
01:20:26.680
the
01:20:26.780
most
01:20:26.940
good
01:20:27.220
and
01:20:28.320
the
01:20:28.520
second
01:20:28.740
part
01:20:29.060
is
01:20:29.360
in
01:20:30.060
your
01:20:30.200
opinion
01:20:30.540
when
01:20:31.460
would
01:20:31.620
it
01:20:31.700
be
01:20:31.820
appropriate
01:20:32.280
or
01:20:32.880
how
01:20:33.100
bad
01:20:33.380
would
01:20:33.500
it
01:20:33.580
have
01:20:33.720
to
01:20:33.860
get
01:20:34.080
for
01:20:34.500
a
01:20:34.660
convention
01:20:35.060
of
01:20:35.220
the
01:20:35.340
states
01:20:35.620
to
01:20:35.780
pass
01:20:36.120
a
01:20:36.280
constitutional
01:20:36.740
amendment
01:20:37.160
well
01:20:38.480
those
01:20:38.720
are
01:20:38.820
great
01:20:39.040
questions
01:20:39.600
and
01:20:39.820
they're
01:20:40.280
closely
01:20:40.760
intertwined
01:20:41.600
I would
01:20:42.380
say
01:20:42.820
and I'm
01:20:43.100
going to
01:20:43.280
cheat a
01:20:43.660
little bit
01:20:44.020
and say
01:20:44.300
it's a
01:20:44.560
tie between
01:20:45.100
two
01:20:45.480
which is
01:20:46.220
number
01:20:46.460
one
01:20:46.780
a term
01:20:47.160
limits
01:20:47.460
amendment
01:20:47.760
and I
01:20:48.120
am a
01:20:48.700
strong
01:20:49.600
defender
01:20:50.060
of
01:20:50.260
term
01:20:50.440
limits
01:20:50.720
I am
01:20:57.340
the author
01:20:58.060
of a
01:20:58.720
term
01:20:58.900
limits
01:20:59.240
amendment
01:20:59.620
that would
01:21:00.080
limit
01:21:00.280
every
01:21:00.540
senator
01:21:00.880
to
01:21:01.080
two
01:21:01.280
terms
01:21:01.660
limit
01:21:01.920
every
01:21:02.160
house
01:21:02.460
member
01:21:02.740
to
01:21:02.920
three
01:21:03.180
terms
01:21:03.720
it
01:21:04.960
is
01:21:05.160
amazing
01:21:05.740
the
01:21:06.140
divide
01:21:06.620
if you
01:21:06.980
look at
01:21:07.380
it
01:21:07.480
the
01:21:07.620
overwhelming
01:21:08.200
majority
01:21:08.700
of Americans
01:21:09.200
support term
01:21:09.920
limits
01:21:10.240
the overwhelming
01:21:10.820
majority
01:21:11.240
of Republicans
01:21:11.860
the overwhelming
01:21:12.500
majority
01:21:12.920
of independents
01:21:13.660
even the
01:21:14.620
overwhelming
01:21:14.980
majority of
01:21:15.700
Democrats
01:21:16.120
support term
01:21:16.840
limits
01:21:17.240
the one
01:21:18.280
group that
01:21:18.720
doesn't support
01:21:19.300
term limits
01:21:19.980
is career
01:21:21.020
politicians
01:21:21.560
in Washington
01:21:22.160
and that's
01:21:23.420
true on both
01:21:23.980
sides
01:21:24.260
all the
01:21:24.800
Democrats
01:21:25.260
in the
01:21:25.540
Senate
01:21:25.720
I can't
01:21:26.140
get a
01:21:26.400
single
01:21:26.620
Democrat
01:21:27.000
in the
01:21:27.920
Senate
01:21:28.140
to support
01:21:28.900
term
01:21:29.160
limits
01:21:29.480
and I
01:21:30.260
can't get
01:21:30.700
any of the
01:21:31.260
Republicans
01:21:31.700
who've been
01:21:32.300
there a long
01:21:33.180
time to
01:21:33.600
support it
01:21:34.040
so it
01:21:34.680
is a
01:21:35.640
clear
01:21:36.420
divide
01:21:36.960
the second
01:21:38.180
amendment
01:21:38.600
that I
01:21:39.000
would also
01:21:40.020
put right
01:21:40.860
side by
01:21:41.380
side with
01:21:41.900
that is
01:21:42.220
a balanced
01:21:42.600
budget
01:21:42.960
amendment
01:21:43.340
48 of
01:21:44.440
the 50
01:21:44.820
states
01:21:45.220
have a
01:21:45.500
balanced
01:21:45.780
budget
01:21:46.140
amendment
01:21:46.500
I think
01:21:47.140
those two
01:21:47.860
amendments
01:21:48.280
would be
01:21:48.660
the two
01:21:49.080
most important
01:21:50.000
structural
01:21:51.180
amendments
01:21:51.760
for shrinking
01:21:52.900
the power
01:21:53.460
of the
01:21:53.660
federal
01:21:53.900
government
01:21:54.320
on the
01:21:55.120
question
01:21:55.500
of a
01:21:55.740
convention
01:21:56.060
of the
01:21:56.340
state
01:21:56.640
so the
01:21:56.980
constitution
01:21:57.500
provides
01:21:58.140
two
01:21:58.360
different
01:21:58.600
ways
01:21:58.980
of amending
01:21:59.380
the
01:21:59.560
constitution
01:22:00.100
one
01:22:01.320
through
01:22:01.960
amendments
01:22:02.420
proposed
01:22:02.900
by
01:22:03.200
congress
01:22:03.620
ratified
01:22:04.120
by
01:22:04.340
the
01:22:04.520
states
01:22:04.920
two
01:22:05.880
through
01:22:06.580
amendments
01:22:07.020
that come
01:22:07.420
out of
01:22:07.700
a convention
01:22:08.160
of the
01:22:08.500
states
01:22:08.900
called
01:22:09.400
for by
01:22:09.840
the
01:22:10.040
states
01:22:10.340
to
01:22:10.480
propose
01:22:10.820
amendments
01:22:11.260
in my
01:22:12.460
view
01:22:12.900
if
01:22:13.480
congress
01:22:14.120
continues
01:22:14.840
stiff
01:22:15.280
arming
01:22:15.640
the
01:22:15.820
people
01:22:16.200
on
01:22:17.140
term
01:22:17.640
limits
01:22:18.000
and
01:22:18.140
a
01:22:18.240
balanced
01:22:18.560
budget
01:22:18.920
amendment
01:22:19.300
I
01:22:19.520
think
01:22:19.720
there
01:22:19.960
is
01:22:20.140
more
01:22:20.560
and
01:22:20.780
more
01:22:21.120
growing
01:22:21.900
momentum
01:22:22.340
for
01:22:22.620
a
01:22:22.760
convention
01:22:23.080
of
01:22:23.280
the
01:22:23.420
states
01:22:23.820
and
01:22:24.560
I
01:22:24.700
think
01:22:24.880
we
01:22:25.080
are
01:22:25.240
likely
01:22:25.620
to
01:22:25.840
either
01:22:26.200
A
01:22:26.700
see
01:22:27.180
a
01:22:27.360
convention
01:22:27.760
of the
01:22:28.120
states
01:22:30.100
it
01:22:30.280
gets
01:22:30.560
very
01:22:30.900
very
01:22:31.160
close
01:22:31.600
to
01:22:31.820
finally
01:22:32.220
have
01:22:32.520
congress
01:22:33.080
blink
01:22:33.620
because
01:22:34.300
they're
01:22:34.640
afraid
01:22:35.020
of
01:22:35.180
a
01:22:35.280
convention
01:22:35.640
of
01:22:35.840
the
01:22:35.980
states
01:22:36.360
and
01:22:36.900
propose
01:22:37.360
those
01:22:37.680
amendments
01:22:38.000
to
01:22:38.220
ratifications
01:22:38.960
either
01:22:39.740
one of
01:22:40.180
those
01:22:40.400
would be
01:22:40.640
a
01:22:40.760
better
01:22:40.940
outcome
01:22:41.320
than
01:22:41.500
where
01:22:41.600
we
01:22:41.740
are
01:22:41.860
now
01:22:42.120
the
01:22:42.580
amendment
01:22:43.040
that I
01:22:43.540
would
01:22:43.700
pass
01:22:44.160
actually
01:22:44.840
has
01:22:45.280
to do
01:22:45.500
with
01:22:45.620
your
01:22:45.780
job
01:22:46.080
senator
01:22:46.380
I
01:22:47.300
would
01:22:47.740
overturn
01:22:48.660
the
01:22:49.280
17th
01:22:50.040
amendment
01:22:50.360
I
01:22:50.760
would
01:22:50.900
pass
01:22:51.200
an
01:22:51.340
amendment
01:22:51.600
to
01:22:52.060
overrule
01:22:52.440
the
01:22:52.580
17th
01:22:53.020
amendment
01:22:53.300
which
01:22:53.780
provided
01:22:54.280
for
01:22:54.480
the
01:22:54.600
so
01:22:54.760
you
01:23:00.100
so
01:23:05.860
the
01:23:06.140
17th
01:23:06.500
amendment
01:23:06.740
provides
01:23:07.180
for the
01:23:07.460
direct
01:23:07.800
election
01:23:08.180
of
01:23:08.360
senators
01:23:08.720
probably
01:23:09.800
not
01:23:10.120
going
01:23:10.220
to
01:23:10.280
be
01:23:10.400
a
01:23:10.600
very
01:23:10.880
popular
01:23:11.300
issue
01:23:11.680
to
01:23:11.840
run
01:23:12.040
on
01:23:12.220
to
01:23:12.340
say
01:23:12.460
we
01:23:12.600
don't
01:23:12.820
want
01:23:12.960
the
01:23:13.080
people
01:23:13.320
to
01:23:13.700
directly
01:23:14.040
elect
01:23:14.340
their
01:23:14.500
senators
01:23:14.820
but
01:23:15.000
I
01:23:15.100
think
01:23:15.220
it's
01:23:15.340
really
01:23:15.600
important
01:23:16.080
because
01:23:16.660
when
01:23:17.820
you
01:23:18.040
got
01:23:18.260
rid
01:23:18.440
of
01:23:18.680
the
01:23:19.000
states
01:23:19.780
electing
01:23:20.420
the
01:23:20.580
senators
01:23:20.940
the
01:23:21.380
state
01:23:21.620
houses
01:23:21.980
and
01:23:22.620
instead
01:23:23.120
gave
01:23:23.420
it
01:23:23.520
to
01:23:23.640
the
01:23:23.780
people
01:23:24.080
you
01:23:25.140
basically
01:23:25.660
destroyed
01:23:26.480
any
01:23:26.980
power
01:23:27.500
that
01:23:27.740
the
01:23:27.900
states
01:23:28.240
had
01:23:28.600
in
01:23:29.200
the
01:23:29.480
national
01:23:29.900
government
01:23:30.340
it
01:23:30.740
went
01:23:30.940
away
01:23:31.180
I
01:23:31.320
remember
01:23:31.480
I
01:23:31.620
got
01:23:31.720
to
01:23:31.860
speak
01:23:32.040
to
01:23:32.180
Antonin
01:23:32.620
Scalia
01:23:32.900
as a
01:23:33.760
student
01:23:34.020
we
01:23:34.200
went
01:23:34.360
up
01:23:34.460
to
01:23:34.560
the
01:23:34.680
Supreme
01:23:34.980
Court
01:23:35.300
and
01:23:35.740
he
01:23:35.860
said
01:23:36.120
states
01:23:36.500
rights
01:23:36.960
completely
01:23:37.760
went
01:23:38.020
out
01:23:38.160
the
01:23:38.300
window
01:23:38.600
with
01:23:39.160
the
01:23:39.340
17th
01:23:39.860
amendment
01:23:40.120
and
01:23:40.360
so
01:23:40.520
if
01:23:40.900
you
01:23:41.060
feel
01:23:41.480
that
01:23:41.660
right
01:23:41.900
now
01:23:42.200
we
01:23:42.600
have
01:23:42.800
an
01:23:42.920
increasingly
01:23:43.580
overbearing
01:23:44.480
autocratic
01:23:45.200
sort of
01:23:45.860
federal
01:23:46.100
government
01:23:46.540
if
01:23:46.960
you
01:23:47.100
feel
01:23:47.540
that
01:23:47.760
now
01:23:48.160
the
01:23:48.800
traditional
01:23:49.660
structures
01:23:50.240
of
01:23:50.500
America
01:23:50.960
are
01:23:51.800
going
01:23:52.200
away
01:23:52.600
and
01:23:52.760
you
01:23:52.880
feel
01:23:53.160
that
01:23:53.280
were
01:23:53.400
being
01:23:53.620
governed
01:23:53.940
by
01:23:54.200
Los
01:23:54.500
Angeles
01:23:54.840
and
01:23:55.060
New
01:23:55.200
York
01:23:55.420
and
01:23:55.580
San
01:23:55.740
Francisco
01:23:56.160
and
01:23:56.700
D.C.
01:23:57.140
most of
01:23:57.580
all
01:23:57.900
then I
01:23:58.580
think
01:23:58.740
it's
01:23:58.880
really
01:23:59.100
important
01:23:59.520
as a
01:23:59.800
structural
01:24:00.120
matter
01:24:00.420
to
01:24:00.840
bring
01:24:01.300
back
01:24:01.840
some
01:24:02.200
role
01:24:02.580
for
01:24:03.000
the
01:24:03.180
states
01:24:03.600
so
01:24:03.840
that
01:24:04.040
my
01:24:04.420
state
01:24:04.680
of
01:24:04.820
Tennessee
01:24:05.180
Texas
01:24:06.080
Florida
01:24:07.000
ordinary
01:24:07.800
states
01:24:08.480
can come
01:24:08.860
in and
01:24:09.120
say
01:24:09.240
don't
01:24:09.480
forget
01:24:09.700
Alabama
01:24:10.120
oh
01:24:10.880
are we
01:24:11.300
in
01:24:11.460
Alabama
01:24:11.820
right
01:24:12.140
now
01:24:12.260
sensible
01:24:12.640
state
01:24:12.920
like
01:24:13.640
Alabama
01:24:14.120
I
01:24:14.400
mean
01:24:14.500
you
01:24:14.800
could
01:24:14.940
name
01:24:15.100
a
01:24:15.520
handful
01:24:15.880
of
01:24:16.100
others
01:24:16.380
really
01:24:17.180
sensible
01:24:17.700
states
01:24:18.220
can
01:24:18.840
go
01:24:19.040
in
01:24:19.160
and
01:24:19.280
say
01:24:19.420
no
01:24:19.660
Joe
01:24:19.880
Biden
01:24:20.140
no
01:24:20.380
Washington
01:24:20.840
D.C.
01:24:21.300
no
01:24:21.480
federal
01:24:21.780
bureaucrats
01:24:22.260
we're
01:24:22.420
not
01:24:22.620
going
01:24:22.720
to
01:24:22.800
put
01:24:22.920
up
01:24:23.060
with
01:24:23.200
that
01:24:23.360
I
01:24:23.720
think
01:24:23.880
as a
01:24:24.160
structural
01:24:24.500
matter
01:24:24.800
we've
01:24:25.260
got
01:24:25.440
to
01:24:25.560
do
01:24:25.700
it
01:24:25.840
and
01:24:26.000
Senator
01:24:26.360
I
01:24:26.900
would
01:24:27.060
say
01:24:27.320
don't
01:24:27.820
worry
01:24:28.100
I
01:24:28.420
think
01:24:28.580
Texas
01:24:28.920
is
01:24:29.100
still
01:24:29.240
going
01:24:29.360
to
01:24:29.400
be
01:24:29.520
sending
01:24:29.780
you
01:24:30.040
to
01:24:30.220
Washington
01:24:30.560
D.C.
01:24:31.080
So
01:24:31.420
and
01:24:31.600
look
01:24:31.800
I
01:24:32.100
think
01:24:32.280
you
01:24:32.380
make
01:24:32.540
a
01:24:32.640
very
01:24:32.780
good
01:24:32.960
point
01:24:33.240
Michael
01:24:33.580
and
01:24:33.780
I
01:24:34.060
would
01:24:34.280
say
01:24:34.620
as
01:24:34.840
an
01:24:34.940
historical
01:24:35.480
matter
01:24:35.980
and
01:24:36.240
theoretical
01:24:36.840
matter
01:24:37.520
I
01:24:37.720
think
01:24:37.880
what
01:24:38.020
you're
01:24:38.180
saying
01:24:38.420
is
01:24:38.580
very
01:24:38.800
powerful
01:24:39.280
that
01:24:39.560
the
01:24:39.760
17th
01:24:40.320
amendment
01:24:40.600
it
01:24:40.820
used
01:24:41.060
to
01:24:41.200
be
01:24:41.360
senators
01:24:41.760
were
01:24:42.000
selected
01:24:42.380
by
01:24:42.600
state
01:24:42.840
legislatures
01:24:43.520
when
01:24:44.420
state
01:24:44.720
legislatures
01:24:45.440
selected
01:24:46.440
senators
01:24:46.980
it
01:24:47.280
meant
01:24:47.520
that
01:24:47.700
senators
01:24:48.060
came
01:24:48.440
there
01:24:48.660
beholden
01:24:49.240
to
01:24:49.340
those
01:24:49.560
state
01:24:49.780
legislatures
01:24:50.460
and
01:24:50.600
they
01:24:50.700
were
01:24:50.800
not
01:24:51.000
very
01:24:51.300
eager
01:24:51.640
to
01:24:52.100
take
01:24:52.320
away
01:24:52.540
power
01:24:52.920
from
01:24:53.140
the
01:24:53.280
state
01:24:53.480
legislatures
01:24:54.160
because
01:24:54.360
they're
01:24:54.560
the
01:24:54.680
ones
01:24:54.900
that
01:24:55.040
gave
01:24:55.240
them
01:24:55.340
the
01:24:55.460
job
01:24:55.840
and
01:24:56.380
could
01:24:56.800
take
01:24:57.280
it
01:24:57.380
away
01:24:57.560
from
01:24:57.800
them
01:24:57.960
when
01:24:58.960
we
01:24:59.160
moved
01:24:59.540
to
01:24:59.660
direct
01:25:00.020
election
01:25:00.480
of
01:25:00.680
senators
01:25:01.080
it
01:25:01.340
weakened
01:25:01.960
that
01:25:02.480
very
01:25:02.780
important
01:25:03.340
structural
01:25:04.120
limitation
01:25:04.760
on
01:25:05.060
federal
01:25:05.320
power
01:25:05.760
that
01:25:06.420
very
01:25:06.700
important
01:25:07.100
element
01:25:07.400
of
01:25:07.640
federalism
01:25:08.500
the
01:25:09.160
reason
01:25:09.660
I
01:25:09.920
haven't
01:25:10.280
focused
01:25:10.680
on
01:25:10.960
repealing
01:25:11.340
the
01:25:11.520
17th
01:25:12.020
amendment
01:25:12.280
is
01:25:12.600
that
01:25:13.000
we
01:25:13.200
live
01:25:13.560
in
01:25:13.720
the
01:25:13.880
realm
01:25:14.180
of
01:25:14.360
the
01:25:14.480
politically
01:25:14.920
feasible
01:25:15.960
and
01:25:17.260
as a
01:25:17.860
practical
01:25:18.360
matter
01:25:18.780
I
01:25:19.020
think
01:25:19.280
it
01:25:19.440
is
01:25:19.620
next
01:25:19.940
to
01:25:20.160
impossible
01:25:20.760
to
01:25:21.120
convince
01:25:21.480
anyone
01:25:21.820
to
01:25:22.000
give
01:25:22.160
up
01:25:22.300
the
01:25:22.440
franchise
01:25:22.820
that
01:25:23.220
once
01:25:23.820
people
01:25:24.280
have
01:25:24.880
the
01:25:25.040
ability
01:25:25.340
to
01:25:25.500
vote
01:25:25.680
on
01:25:25.860
something
01:25:26.320
they're
01:25:26.960
not
01:25:27.200
going
01:25:27.380
to
01:25:27.480
likely
01:25:27.780
choose
01:25:28.300
to
01:25:28.500
give
01:25:28.660
up
01:25:28.840
that
01:25:29.040
ability
01:25:29.400
to
01:25:29.600
vote
01:25:29.780
on
01:25:29.940
it
01:25:30.040
which
01:25:30.260
is
01:25:30.480
why
01:25:30.980
as
01:25:32.100
a
01:25:32.240
theoretical
01:25:32.740
matter
01:25:33.280
you
01:25:33.500
might
01:25:33.720
be
01:25:33.860
right
01:25:34.100
in
01:25:34.180
the
01:25:34.280
abstract
01:25:34.720
but
01:25:35.560
I
01:25:35.720
think
01:25:35.960
term
01:25:36.280
limits
01:25:36.560
and
01:25:36.740
balanced
01:25:37.120
budget
01:25:37.600
are
01:25:38.300
actually
01:25:38.920
achievable
01:25:39.700
and can
01:25:40.120
get
01:25:40.340
done
01:25:40.820
whereas
01:25:41.160
repealing
01:25:41.620
the
01:25:41.800
17th
01:25:42.260
amendment
01:25:42.560
that's
01:25:43.780
never
01:25:43.960
going
01:25:44.120
to
01:25:44.140
happen
01:25:44.380
bit
01:25:44.560
of
01:25:44.660
a
01:25:44.760
pipe
01:25:44.960
dream
01:25:45.180
yep
01:25:45.400
I
01:25:45.560
think
01:25:45.740
you're
01:25:45.860
right
01:25:45.980
I
01:25:46.160
agree
01:25:46.320
thank
01:25:46.920
you
01:25:47.040
for
01:25:47.160
your
01:25:47.260
question
01:25:47.520
this
01:25:47.780
next
01:25:48.060
question
01:25:48.500
will
01:25:48.960
be
01:25:49.100
the
01:25:49.280
last
01:25:49.600
question
01:25:50.060
so
01:25:50.300
step
01:25:50.660
right
01:25:50.840
up
01:25:51.520
hi
01:25:55.920
what's
01:25:56.180
your
01:25:56.280
name
01:25:56.520
hi
01:25:57.540
my
01:25:57.720
name
01:25:57.880
is
01:25:58.020
Noah
01:25:58.220
this
01:25:59.480
question
01:25:59.840
is
01:26:00.080
primarily
01:26:00.420
for you
01:26:00.760
Mr.
01:26:01.040
Knowles
01:26:01.260
I
01:26:02.100
think
01:26:02.280
you
01:26:02.360
would
01:26:02.480
agree
01:26:02.720
that
01:26:02.900
the
01:26:03.040
U.S.
01:26:03.360
was
01:26:03.620
founded
01:26:04.000
on
01:26:04.300
Judeo-Christian
01:26:04.860
values
01:26:05.320
sure
01:26:06.400
yeah
01:26:06.720
given
01:26:08.000
at least
01:26:08.300
in my
01:26:08.620
experience
01:26:09.100
that
01:26:09.420
the
01:26:09.640
U.S.
01:26:10.040
especially
01:26:10.360
in younger
01:26:10.780
generations
01:26:11.300
seems to
01:26:11.820
be drifting
01:26:12.220
away
01:26:12.520
from
01:26:12.740
religion
01:26:13.060
maybe
01:26:13.360
that's
01:26:13.720
they
01:26:13.860
stop
01:26:14.140
practicing
01:26:14.680
they've
01:26:15.460
become
01:26:15.680
agnostic
01:26:16.200
or even
01:26:16.600
atheist
01:26:17.220
do you
01:26:18.000
think
01:26:18.220
it is
01:26:18.460
possible
01:26:18.840
for the
01:26:19.220
U.S.
01:26:19.540
to maintain
01:26:20.200
that set
01:26:20.700
of values
01:26:21.240
without
01:26:21.900
the
01:26:22.620
kind
01:26:22.920
of
01:26:23.040
core
01:26:23.440
base
01:26:24.020
that
01:26:24.460
they
01:26:24.540
were
01:26:24.700
founded
01:26:25.060
on
01:26:25.380
continuing
01:26:26.040
you've
01:26:28.140
got
01:26:28.420
to
01:26:28.680
practice
01:26:29.420
what
01:26:30.140
you
01:26:30.560
preach
01:26:31.020
or
01:26:31.360
you're
01:26:31.580
not
01:26:31.760
going
01:26:31.940
to
01:26:32.040
be
01:26:32.180
preaching
01:26:32.440
it
01:26:32.580
for
01:26:32.680
very
01:26:32.940
long
01:26:33.320
it's
01:26:33.560
not
01:26:33.980
going
01:26:34.220
to
01:26:34.380
last
01:26:34.680
very
01:26:34.940
long
01:26:35.180
previously
01:26:36.220
we
01:26:36.660
did
01:26:36.800
have
01:26:36.960
institutions
01:26:37.580
we
01:26:38.420
had
01:26:38.800
strong
01:26:39.320
families
01:26:39.740
we
01:26:40.140
had
01:26:40.380
traditions
01:26:40.900
that
01:26:41.560
were
01:26:41.720
able
01:26:41.940
to
01:26:42.160
withstand
01:26:42.780
some
01:26:44.200
wild
01:26:44.660
teenage
01:26:45.160
years
01:26:45.700
and
01:26:45.880
people
01:26:46.080
rebelling
01:26:46.480
against
01:26:46.840
that
01:26:47.160
the
01:26:47.800
social
01:26:48.100
structure
01:26:48.480
was
01:26:48.680
still
01:26:48.860
pretty
01:26:49.080
sound
01:26:49.580
and
01:26:50.080
sturdy
01:26:50.480
that
01:26:51.120
has
01:26:51.380
decayed
01:26:51.860
rapidly
01:26:52.260
and so
01:26:52.680
you've
01:26:52.840
seen
01:26:52.960
a rapid
01:26:53.520
spike
01:26:54.020
in
01:26:54.680
atheism
01:26:55.440
you've
01:26:55.720
seen
01:26:55.820
a rapid
01:26:56.240
spike
01:26:56.640
in
01:26:57.200
a loss
01:26:57.660
of
01:26:57.820
faith
01:26:58.040
in
01:26:58.160
America's
01:26:58.660
institutions
01:26:59.220
that's
01:27:00.140
a big
01:27:00.880
problem
01:27:01.420
part
01:27:02.940
of it
01:27:03.220
is
01:27:03.420
because
01:27:04.140
the
01:27:05.000
the
01:27:05.240
libs
01:27:05.540
want
01:27:05.860
to
01:27:06.220
destroy
01:27:06.900
anything
01:27:07.600
that
01:27:07.800
America
01:27:08.100
once
01:27:08.420
stood
01:27:08.620
for
01:27:08.840
and
01:27:08.960
make
01:27:09.140
America
01:27:09.520
into
01:27:09.740
some
01:27:10.020
merely
01:27:10.580
abstract
01:27:11.460
secular
01:27:12.960
utopia
01:27:13.480
and
01:27:14.200
unfortunately
01:27:14.760
a lot
01:27:15.240
of
01:27:15.380
conservatives
01:27:15.900
have
01:27:16.200
kind
01:27:16.540
of
01:27:16.680
gone
01:27:16.920
along
01:27:17.280
with
01:27:17.500
it
01:27:17.640
I
01:27:18.080
think
01:27:18.360
it's
01:27:18.540
important
01:27:18.920
to
01:27:19.140
remember
01:27:19.560
that
01:27:20.440
America
01:27:21.220
is the
01:27:21.660
freest
01:27:22.020
country
01:27:22.320
in the
01:27:22.520
history
01:27:22.740
of the
01:27:22.980
world
01:27:23.300
most
01:27:23.820
tolerant
01:27:24.120
country
01:27:24.460
in the
01:27:24.660
history
01:27:24.860
of the
01:27:25.080
world
01:27:25.280
the
01:27:25.540
most
01:27:25.720
attractive
01:27:26.140
country
01:27:26.500
in the
01:27:26.700
history
01:27:26.860
of the
01:27:27.060
world
01:27:27.240
we have
01:27:27.560
3
01:27:27.840
million
01:27:28.100
people
01:27:28.380
a
01:27:28.520
year
01:27:28.680
at
01:27:28.820
this
01:27:28.960
point
01:27:29.160
coming
01:27:29.380
to
01:27:29.500
this
01:27:29.660
country
01:27:30.000
largest
01:27:30.660
movement
01:27:31.040
of
01:27:31.600
human
01:27:31.840
beings
01:27:32.140
in
01:27:32.320
recorded
01:27:32.640
history
01:27:33.020
over the
01:27:33.320
past
01:27:33.500
60
01:27:33.780
years
01:27:34.040
have
01:27:34.420
come
01:27:34.660
into
01:27:34.820
the
01:27:34.960
United
01:27:35.220
States
01:27:35.580
so
01:27:36.020
obviously
01:27:36.660
America
01:27:37.560
is a
01:27:37.920
big
01:27:38.200
wide
01:27:38.620
open
01:27:38.920
tolerant
01:27:39.380
place
01:27:39.880
but
01:27:40.420
there
01:27:40.600
are
01:27:40.960
limits
01:27:41.540
the
01:27:41.980
declaration
01:27:42.940
of
01:27:43.420
independence
01:27:43.840
says
01:27:44.160
we hold
01:27:44.820
these
01:27:45.000
truths
01:27:45.260
to be
01:27:45.540
self
01:27:45.780
evident
01:27:46.040
that
01:27:46.440
all
01:27:46.620
men
01:27:46.740
are
01:27:46.860
created
01:27:47.060
equal
01:27:47.320
and
01:27:47.480
endowed
01:27:47.820
by their
01:27:48.120
creator
01:27:48.320
with
01:27:48.500
certain
01:27:48.760
unalienable
01:27:49.500
rights
01:27:49.980
if you
01:27:50.800
don't
01:27:51.100
believe
01:27:51.580
that
01:27:52.140
there
01:27:52.300
is
01:27:52.400
a
01:27:52.520
creator
01:27:52.920
who
01:27:53.220
has
01:27:53.380
endowed
01:27:53.700
us
01:27:53.860
with
01:27:54.040
certain
01:27:54.320
rights
01:27:54.780
then
01:27:55.540
you're
01:27:55.980
just
01:27:56.320
not
01:27:56.980
in
01:27:57.880
the
01:27:58.100
American
01:27:58.500
idea
01:27:58.960
you
01:27:59.280
are
01:27:59.840
rejecting
01:28:04.040
John Locke
01:28:05.240
father
01:28:06.120
of
01:28:06.360
liberalism
01:28:06.940
one
01:28:07.380
of
01:28:07.480
the
01:28:07.580
most
01:28:07.780
tolerant
01:28:08.300
liberal
01:28:08.580
minded
01:28:08.820
men
01:28:09.020
in
01:28:09.140
history
01:28:09.440
in
01:28:09.900
the
01:28:10.040
letter
01:28:10.300
concerning
01:28:10.780
toleration
01:28:11.520
John
01:28:12.180
Locke
01:28:12.420
said
01:28:12.580
we've
01:28:12.760
got
01:28:12.860
to
01:28:12.980
tolerate
01:28:13.280
everybody
01:28:13.800
except
01:28:14.300
for
01:28:14.540
atheists
01:28:15.060
because
01:28:15.300
those
01:28:15.540
guys
01:28:15.820
can't
01:28:16.080
be
01:28:16.200
trusted
01:28:16.540
at
01:28:16.740
all
01:28:17.100
you
01:28:17.600
have
01:28:18.000
John
01:28:18.360
Milton
01:28:23.160
in
01:28:23.440
the
01:28:23.560
most
01:28:24.680
famous
01:28:24.940
defense
01:28:25.300
of
01:28:25.420
free
01:28:25.600
speech
01:28:25.880
in
01:28:26.320
the
01:28:26.440
English
01:28:26.720
language
01:28:27.140
and
01:28:27.640
in
01:28:27.880
it
01:28:28.060
John
01:28:28.340
Milton
01:28:28.560
says
01:28:28.920
we need
01:28:29.380
free
01:28:29.580
speech
01:28:29.800
for
01:28:29.940
everybody
01:28:30.360
except
01:28:30.840
for
01:28:31.000
the
01:28:31.120
atheists
01:28:31.560
and
01:28:31.760
the
01:28:31.880
Catholics
01:28:32.320
now
01:28:32.780
look
01:28:33.020
I'm
01:28:33.260
glad
01:28:33.820
that
01:28:34.320
we've
01:28:34.540
gotten
01:28:34.780
rid
01:28:35.020
of
01:28:35.140
that
01:28:35.340
latter
01:28:35.660
one
01:28:36.080
but
01:28:36.820
otherwise
01:28:37.420
I
01:28:37.600
wouldn't
01:28:37.720
be
01:28:37.860
sitting
01:28:38.040
here
01:28:38.220
tonight
01:28:38.540
but
01:28:38.900
the
01:28:39.360
point
01:28:39.640
that
01:28:39.780
they're
01:28:39.920
both
01:28:40.140
making
01:28:40.520
is
01:28:41.080
that
01:28:41.420
political
01:28:42.060
communities
01:28:42.700
do
01:28:43.060
require
01:28:43.520
limits
01:28:43.900
we
01:28:44.300
have
01:28:44.560
to
01:28:44.720
agree
01:28:45.060
on
01:28:45.300
certain
01:28:45.620
things
01:28:46.000
it's
01:28:46.480
become
01:28:46.680
very
01:28:46.940
fashionable
01:28:47.420
since
01:28:48.200
the
01:28:48.380
early
01:28:48.600
1990s
01:28:49.420
it's
01:28:49.560
actually
01:28:49.760
a line
01:28:50.040
from
01:28:50.220
former
01:28:50.780
vice
01:28:51.000
president
01:28:51.260
Dan
01:28:51.620
Quayle
01:28:52.060
to
01:28:52.420
say
01:28:52.600
that
01:28:52.780
diversity
01:28:53.420
is
01:28:53.800
our
01:28:53.980
strength
01:28:54.540
by
01:28:54.980
which
01:28:55.240
is
01:28:55.420
meant
01:28:55.700
we
01:28:56.500
don't
01:28:56.700
hate
01:28:56.900
people
01:28:57.180
based
01:28:57.440
on
01:28:57.600
their
01:28:57.740
race
01:28:58.020
or
01:28:58.140
their
01:28:58.260
background
01:28:58.600
but
01:28:59.240
unity
01:29:00.540
is
01:29:00.800
our
01:29:00.940
strength
01:29:01.300
as
01:29:01.480
well
01:29:01.740
the
01:29:01.920
idea
01:29:02.180
that
01:29:02.300
we
01:29:02.400
can
01:29:02.520
all
01:29:02.680
come
01:29:02.860
together
01:29:03.160
from
01:29:03.340
various
01:29:03.660
backgrounds
01:29:04.080
and agree
01:29:04.760
on
01:29:04.980
certain
01:29:05.220
things
01:29:05.540
and speak
01:29:06.120
the
01:29:06.300
same
01:29:06.480
language
01:29:06.880
and have
01:29:07.940
shared
01:29:08.240
customs
01:29:08.680
and have
01:29:09.280
real
01:29:09.560
borders
01:29:09.960
and have
01:29:10.640
a
01:29:10.920
community
01:29:11.380
and
01:29:11.780
so
01:29:12.260
we
01:29:12.800
need
01:29:12.980
to
01:29:13.100
get
01:29:13.260
back
01:29:13.560
to
01:29:13.700
that
01:29:13.820
we
01:29:13.960
need
01:29:14.080
to
01:29:14.140
get
01:29:14.260
back
01:29:14.540
to
01:29:14.700
an
01:29:14.840
idea
01:29:15.280
that
01:29:15.920
out
01:29:16.240
of
01:29:16.400
many
01:29:16.740
there
01:29:17.600
is
01:29:17.760
one
01:29:18.200
there
01:29:25.420
merely
01:29:25.640
to
01:29:25.800
look
01:29:25.940
at
01:29:26.060
politics
01:29:26.480
as
01:29:26.660
a
01:29:26.760
matter
01:29:26.940
of
01:29:27.100
rights
01:29:27.360
and
01:29:27.480
entitlement
01:29:27.920
but
01:29:28.360
as
01:29:28.480
a
01:29:28.580
matter
01:29:28.760
of
01:29:28.940
duty
01:29:29.180
and
01:29:29.300
obligation
01:29:29.780
to
01:29:30.000
our
01:29:30.160
fellow
01:29:30.420
citizens
01:29:30.880
and
01:29:31.400
to
01:29:31.800
our
01:29:31.980
country
01:29:32.320
if
01:29:32.720
we
01:29:32.860
can
01:29:33.020
return
01:29:33.400
to
01:29:33.600
that
01:29:33.920
even
01:29:34.400
if
01:29:34.580
we're
01:29:34.720
not
01:29:35.040
totally
01:29:35.860
up
01:29:36.300
on
01:29:36.560
the
01:29:36.800
theological
01:29:37.660
points
01:29:38.360
that
01:29:38.560
the
01:29:38.700
founding
01:29:38.900
fathers
01:29:39.280
might
01:29:39.540
have
01:29:39.660
believed
01:29:39.980
in
01:29:40.200
I
01:29:40.560
think
01:29:40.800
that
01:29:40.920
there
01:29:41.060
is
01:29:41.180
a
01:29:41.420
good
01:29:41.620
chance
01:29:42.060
that
01:29:42.500
in
01:29:42.660
practice
01:29:43.100
we'll
01:29:43.420
be
01:29:43.540
able
01:29:43.700
to
01:29:43.840
recover
01:29:44.140
something
01:29:44.500
like
01:29:44.840
the
01:29:45.180
traditional
01:29:45.560
American
01:29:55.420
on
01:29:55.820
Judeo-Christian
01:29:56.580
traditions
01:29:57.300
I
01:29:58.540
think
01:29:58.720
we're
01:29:58.880
a
01:29:59.000
pluralistic
01:30:00.060
nation
01:30:00.460
so
01:30:00.880
we
01:30:01.220
welcome
01:30:01.780
people
01:30:02.160
from
01:30:02.580
multiple
01:30:03.220
different
01:30:03.600
faith
01:30:03.880
traditions
01:30:04.360
but
01:30:04.680
you're
01:30:04.920
right
01:30:05.200
means
01:30:06.540
out of
01:30:07.240
many
01:30:07.520
one
01:30:07.860
that
01:30:08.040
we
01:30:08.200
came
01:30:08.540
together
01:30:08.960
to
01:30:09.120
be
01:30:09.260
one
01:30:09.500
America
01:30:10.000
and
01:30:10.820
I
01:30:11.320
will
01:30:11.540
say
01:30:12.080
that
01:30:12.400
those
01:30:14.300
who
01:30:14.680
believe
01:30:15.100
in
01:30:15.280
unlimited
01:30:15.660
power
01:30:16.160
are
01:30:17.620
inherently
01:30:18.600
hostile
01:30:19.440
to
01:30:20.320
faith
01:30:20.640
you
01:30:22.240
can
01:30:22.400
look
01:30:22.620
at
01:30:22.760
this
01:30:22.980
in
01:30:23.160
totalitarian
01:30:23.860
regimes
01:30:24.380
across
01:30:24.760
the
01:30:24.940
globe
01:30:25.200
you
01:30:25.400
can
01:30:25.540
look
01:30:25.740
at
01:30:25.900
this
01:30:26.200
in
01:30:26.840
China
01:30:27.260
where
01:30:27.620
Mao
01:30:28.320
would
01:30:28.580
drive
01:30:29.120
nails
01:30:30.100
into
01:30:30.360
the
01:30:30.560
eyes
01:30:30.840
of
01:30:31.000
Christians
01:30:31.420
you
01:30:31.780
can
01:30:32.300
look
01:30:32.540
at
01:30:32.700
this
01:30:32.920
in
01:30:33.020
the
01:30:33.140
Soviet
01:30:33.480
Union
01:30:33.820
I
01:30:34.000
can
01:30:34.120
tell
01:30:34.320
you
01:30:34.420
in
01:30:34.580
Cuba
01:30:34.920
so
01:30:36.780
my
01:30:37.000
grandmother
01:30:37.520
my
01:30:38.560
father
01:30:38.880
was
01:30:39.080
born
01:30:39.260
in
01:30:39.440
Cuba
01:30:39.680
raised
01:30:40.680
in
01:30:40.880
Cuba
01:30:41.140
but
01:30:41.360
my
01:30:41.540
grandmother
01:30:41.940
was
01:30:42.140
a
01:30:42.240
school
01:30:42.380
teacher
01:30:42.620
in
01:30:42.800
Cuba
01:30:42.980
she
01:30:43.140
was
01:30:43.280
a
01:30:43.380
sixth
01:30:43.560
grade
01:30:43.780
teacher
01:30:44.080
in
01:30:44.260
Cuba
01:30:44.500
and
01:30:45.660
when
01:30:45.880
Castro
01:30:46.440
took
01:30:46.780
over
01:30:47.140
a
01:30:48.260
story
01:30:48.660
my
01:30:48.860
grandmother
01:30:49.200
told
01:30:49.580
me
01:30:49.780
is
01:30:49.960
that
01:30:55.200
and
01:30:55.560
tell
01:30:55.820
all
01:30:56.220
the
01:30:56.440
children
01:30:56.800
there
01:30:57.180
they
01:30:58.220
say
01:30:58.520
okay
01:30:58.860
close
01:30:59.360
your
01:30:59.580
eyes
01:31:00.080
and
01:31:00.940
pray
01:31:01.200
to
01:31:01.360
God
01:31:01.720
and
01:31:02.880
ask
01:31:03.380
God
01:31:03.820
for
01:31:04.080
candy
01:31:04.480
and
01:31:05.600
all
01:31:05.740
the
01:31:05.840
little
01:31:06.020
kids
01:31:06.300
would
01:31:06.440
close
01:31:06.720
their
01:31:06.900
eyes
01:31:07.180
and
01:31:07.300
they
01:31:07.400
would
01:31:07.980
open
01:31:08.160
their
01:31:08.340
eyes
01:31:08.700
and
01:31:09.340
there
01:31:09.420
was
01:31:09.520
no
01:31:09.660
candy
01:31:09.960
and
01:31:11.120
then
01:31:11.240
the
01:31:11.400
soldiers
01:31:11.740
would
01:31:12.000
say
01:31:12.180
okay
01:31:12.440
do
01:31:12.700
it
01:31:12.820
again
01:31:13.080
close
01:31:13.500
your
01:31:13.720
eyes
01:31:14.180
and
01:31:15.040
pray
01:31:15.500
to
01:31:15.740
Fidel
01:31:16.060
Castro
01:31:16.620
for
01:31:17.840
candy
01:31:18.180
and
01:31:19.340
they
01:31:19.460
close
01:31:19.800
their
01:31:19.980
eyes
01:31:20.240
and
01:31:20.380
the
01:31:20.500
soldiers
01:31:20.840
would
01:31:21.040
put
01:31:21.200
candy
01:31:21.540
on
01:31:21.660
the
01:31:21.780
desks
01:31:22.040
of
01:31:22.160
every
01:31:22.320
child
01:31:22.660
and
01:31:24.180
if
01:31:25.120
you
01:31:25.460
believe
01:31:25.900
in
01:31:26.180
the
01:31:26.300
totalitarian
01:31:27.000
state
01:31:27.600
you
01:31:28.720
don't
01:31:29.060
want
01:31:29.520
anyone
01:31:30.180
to have
01:31:30.820
a loyalty
01:31:31.560
to
01:31:31.920
anything
01:31:32.580
above
01:31:33.040
the
01:31:33.280
state
01:31:33.580
that
01:31:33.780
means
01:31:34.020
a loyalty
01:31:34.400
to
01:31:34.620
God
01:31:35.040
that
01:31:35.460
means
01:31:35.660
a loyalty
01:31:36.100
to
01:31:36.360
family
01:31:36.860
that
01:31:37.480
means
01:31:37.940
a loyalty
01:31:38.420
to
01:31:38.680
anything
01:31:39.260
other
01:31:39.720
than
01:31:40.100
the
01:31:40.300
all
01:31:40.820
powerful
01:31:41.300
government
01:31:41.760
and
01:31:41.960
so
01:31:42.160
I
01:31:42.380
think
01:31:42.640
you
01:31:44.180
know
01:31:44.260
I
01:31:44.400
can
01:31:44.580
say
01:31:44.880
as
01:31:45.060
a
01:31:45.400
parent
01:31:45.940
all
01:31:47.760
of
01:31:47.880
us
01:31:48.040
make
01:31:48.280
our
01:31:48.460
own
01:31:48.700
faith
01:31:49.060
decisions
01:31:49.660
but
01:31:50.060
what
01:31:50.580
I
01:31:50.840
urge
01:31:51.280
my
01:31:51.800
children
01:31:52.300
is
01:31:53.400
that
01:31:53.600
your
01:31:53.800
life
01:31:54.180
is
01:31:54.380
much
01:31:54.680
richer
01:31:55.200
your
01:31:55.500
life
01:31:55.800
is
01:31:55.980
much
01:31:56.280
fuller
01:31:57.560
as
01:31:58.760
a
01:31:58.880
Christian
01:31:59.320
with
01:32:01.140
a
01:32:01.320
personal
01:32:01.720
relationship
01:32:02.320
with
01:32:02.600
Jesus
01:32:02.860
Christ
01:32:03.360
that
01:32:03.900
gives
01:32:06.160
you
01:32:06.480
a
01:32:06.740
strength
01:32:07.280
and
01:32:07.500
a
01:32:07.700
comfort
01:32:08.240
and
01:32:09.000
a
01:32:09.140
peace
01:32:09.900
to
01:32:10.740
withstand
01:32:11.340
the
01:32:12.000
travails
01:32:12.760
of
01:32:12.980
day
01:32:13.200
to
01:32:13.320
day
01:32:13.620
and
01:32:14.520
as
01:32:15.020
our
01:32:15.280
nation
01:32:15.920
becomes
01:32:16.780
more
01:32:18.620
and
01:32:18.860
more
01:32:19.180
irreligious
01:32:20.060
rejection
01:32:21.060
faith
01:32:21.940
of
01:32:22.100
any
01:32:22.300
kind
01:32:22.840
you
01:32:24.060
also
01:32:24.760
see
01:32:25.300
a
01:32:25.560
descent
01:32:26.320
a
01:32:27.740
loss
01:32:28.480
of
01:32:28.680
family
01:32:29.140
a
01:32:29.420
loss
01:32:29.760
of
01:32:29.980
morals
01:32:30.560
a
01:32:31.420
breakdown
01:32:32.180
of
01:32:32.760
the
01:32:32.900
nuclear
01:32:33.260
family
01:32:33.900
a
01:32:34.280
breakdown
01:32:34.760
a
01:32:35.160
loss
01:32:35.480
of
01:32:35.680
fathers
01:32:36.160
if you
01:32:36.580
look
01:32:36.840
at
01:32:37.040
inner
01:32:37.760
cities
01:32:38.220
and
01:32:38.520
many
01:32:39.300
of
01:32:39.500
the
01:32:39.640
challenges
01:32:40.160
that
01:32:41.160
so many
01:32:42.020
kids
01:32:42.320
are
01:32:42.500
facing
01:32:42.840
the
01:32:43.080
absence
01:32:43.460
of
01:32:43.700
fathers
01:32:44.100
is
01:32:44.380
a
01:32:44.980
big
01:32:45.500
challenge
01:32:46.260
and
01:32:47.860
a
01:32:49.020
strong
01:32:49.860
faith
01:32:50.320
tradition
01:32:51.080
helps
01:32:52.200
keep
01:32:52.480
families
01:32:52.920
together
01:32:53.380
helps
01:32:53.960
keep
01:32:54.900
mothers
01:32:55.300
and
01:32:55.580
fathers
01:32:55.940
together
01:32:56.400
to
01:32:56.660
raise
01:32:56.940
children
01:32:57.500
helps
01:32:58.460
build
01:32:58.880
strong
01:32:59.360
communities
01:33:00.040
obviously
01:33:01.160
build
01:33:01.600
strong
01:33:01.980
churches
01:33:02.480
but
01:33:02.840
it
01:33:03.160
is
01:33:03.680
part
01:33:06.380
of
01:33:06.620
what
01:33:06.840
has
01:33:07.060
made
01:33:07.340
America
01:33:07.860
so
01:33:08.220
extraordinary
01:33:08.920
and
01:33:10.040
I
01:33:10.160
think
01:33:10.340
one
01:33:10.640
of
01:33:10.760
the
01:33:10.900
reasons
01:33:11.420
the
01:33:12.300
secular
01:33:12.860
left
01:33:13.460
have
01:33:16.060
become
01:33:16.600
almost
01:33:17.020
jihadists
01:33:18.080
about
01:33:19.240
politics
01:33:20.080
about
01:33:20.600
the
01:33:20.800
environment
01:33:21.380
for
01:33:21.660
some
01:33:22.040
the
01:33:22.220
environment
01:33:22.720
is
01:33:22.980
their
01:33:23.120
new
01:33:23.320
religion
01:33:23.800
for
01:33:24.380
others
01:33:24.760
it
01:33:25.100
is
01:33:25.340
stopping
01:33:25.860
the
01:33:26.180
evils
01:33:26.560
of
01:33:26.720
Trumpism
01:33:27.360
but
01:33:28.020
it
01:33:28.140
is
01:33:28.400
with
01:33:28.640
the
01:33:28.860
same
01:33:29.580
zealotry
01:33:30.500
that
01:33:31.480
for
01:33:31.720
millennia
01:33:32.340
people
01:33:32.760
approached
01:33:33.260
faith
01:33:33.840
that
01:33:34.520
now
01:33:35.020
the
01:33:35.280
hard
01:33:35.740
left
01:33:36.380
approaches
01:33:37.460
anyone
01:33:38.100
who
01:33:38.340
disagrees
01:33:38.900
well
01:33:39.160
this
01:33:39.360
is
01:33:39.580
as
01:33:39.880
the
01:33:40.160
political
01:33:40.740
philosopher
01:33:41.260
Bob
01:33:41.860
Dylan
01:33:42.160
put
01:33:42.520
it
01:33:42.700
everybody
01:33:43.580
has
01:33:43.940
got
01:33:44.140
to
01:33:44.300
serve
01:33:44.600
somebody
01:33:45.100
and
01:33:45.280
so
01:33:45.440
man
01:33:45.680
as
01:33:45.820
a
01:33:45.940
religious
01:33:46.220
being
01:33:46.600
we
01:33:46.980
have
01:33:47.200
these
01:33:47.420
longings
01:33:47.840
we
01:33:47.980
have
01:33:48.080
an
01:33:48.180
intuition
01:33:48.580
that
01:33:49.280
there's
01:33:49.620
something
01:33:49.860
beyond
01:33:50.200
this
01:33:50.420
world
01:33:50.780
we
01:33:51.160
have
01:33:51.280
an
01:33:51.380
intuition
01:33:51.760
that
01:33:52.060
there's
01:33:52.280
such
01:33:52.440
a
01:33:52.560
thing
01:33:52.720
as
01:33:52.940
say
01:33:53.140
morality
01:33:53.560
it's
01:33:54.140
better
01:33:54.360
to
01:33:54.560
feed
01:33:54.760
a
01:33:54.880
baby
01:33:55.140
than
01:33:55.340
to
01:33:55.480
kick
01:33:55.640
a
01:33:55.780
puppy
01:33:56.040
if
01:33:56.460
that's
01:33:57.040
true
01:33:57.300
then
01:33:57.520
that
01:33:57.680
means
01:33:57.920
there
01:33:58.120
is
01:33:58.340
a
01:33:58.520
good
01:33:58.740
and
01:33:58.860
a
01:33:58.940
bad
01:33:59.280
and
01:33:59.640
an
01:33:59.740
ultimate
01:33:59.980
good
01:34:00.260
so
01:34:00.640
we
01:34:00.820
have
01:34:01.080
that
01:34:01.280
longing
01:34:01.640
and
01:34:02.200
either
01:34:02.880
we're
01:34:03.120
going
01:34:03.280
to
01:34:03.440
order
01:34:03.720
that
01:34:04.020
toward
01:34:04.420
God
01:34:05.100
the
01:34:05.480
true
01:34:05.720
source
01:34:06.020
of
01:34:06.180
goodness
01:34:06.440
the
01:34:06.640
true
01:34:06.800
source
01:34:07.040
of
01:34:07.160
being
01:34:07.440
or
01:34:07.980
we're
01:34:08.180
going
01:34:08.280
to
01:34:08.360
order
01:34:08.600
it
01:34:08.780
toward
01:34:09.040
whatever
01:34:09.360
the
01:34:09.580
idol
01:34:09.900
of
01:34:10.140
the
01:34:10.260
day
01:34:10.480
is
01:34:10.780
and
01:34:11.520
things
01:34:11.740
don't
01:34:11.920
go
01:34:12.060
very
01:34:12.340
well
01:34:12.580
when
01:34:12.740
you
01:34:12.860
worship
01:34:13.140
idols
01:34:13.500
it
01:34:13.760
didn't
01:34:13.980
work
01:34:14.180
out
01:34:14.320
very
01:34:14.480
well
01:34:14.660
for
01:34:14.800
other
01:34:14.960
civilizations
01:34:15.560
and
01:34:15.920
when
01:34:16.700
John
01:34:17.140
Adams
01:34:17.380
says
01:34:17.620
the
01:34:17.760
Constitution
01:34:18.220
is
01:34:18.440
built
01:34:18.600
for
01:34:18.760
moral
01:34:19.060
and
01:34:19.220
religious
01:34:19.520
people
01:34:19.940
he's
01:34:20.460
not
01:34:20.620
being
01:34:20.840
a
01:34:20.980
bible
01:34:21.300
thumper
01:34:21.740
okay
01:34:22.000
John
01:34:22.300
Adams
01:34:22.540
was
01:34:22.740
far
01:34:22.980
from
01:34:23.160
a
01:34:23.300
bible
01:34:23.540
thumper
01:34:23.860
okay
01:34:24.140
he's
01:34:24.560
observing
01:34:24.960
a
01:34:25.160
political
01:34:25.460
fact
01:34:26.000
if
01:34:26.680
the
01:34:26.980
country
01:34:27.780
strays
01:34:28.700
from
01:34:29.080
what
01:34:29.380
is
01:34:29.500
good
01:34:29.760
and
01:34:29.920
true
01:34:30.100
and
01:34:30.240
beautiful
01:34:30.560
then
01:34:31.080
we're
01:34:31.240
going
01:34:31.360
to
01:34:31.380
have
01:34:31.500
a
01:34:31.600
country
01:34:31.920
that
01:34:32.200
is
01:34:32.340
bad
01:34:32.820
and
01:34:33.300
false
01:34:33.700
and
01:34:33.940
wicked
01:34:34.180
and
01:34:34.600
I
01:34:34.760
don't
01:34:34.900
think
01:34:35.080
anybody
01:34:35.320
wants
01:34:35.620
that
01:34:35.840
all right
01:34:40.160
is that
01:34:40.460
our show
01:34:40.940
so
01:34:42.540
thank you
01:34:44.040
so much
01:34:44.320
for being
01:34:44.560
here
01:34:44.680
it's
01:34:44.860
such a
01:34:45.220
great
01:34:45.520
pleasure
01:34:45.860
to be
01:34:46.640
breathing
01:34:46.960
the sweet
01:34:47.440
air
01:34:47.620
of freedom
01:34:48.040
not only
01:34:48.680
because we
01:34:48.900
can take
01:34:49.160
those stupid
01:34:49.620
masks off
01:34:50.220
but because
01:34:50.700
we're here
01:34:51.120
in Alabama
01:34:51.660
thank you
01:34:52.500
so much
01:34:53.020
to everyone
01:34:53.460
and Michael
01:34:54.260
before we
01:34:54.860
go
01:34:55.180
I need to
01:34:56.340
say something
01:34:56.960
that is going
01:34:57.540
to get me
01:34:57.920
in trouble
01:34:58.360
with every
01:34:58.880
Longhorn
01:34:59.460
every Aggie
01:35:00.340
every resident
01:35:01.580
of the state
01:35:02.200
of Texas
01:35:02.720
which is
01:35:03.820
roll time
01:35:04.840
and it's great
01:35:06.040
to be here
01:35:06.680
God bless you guys
01:35:07.860
this episode
01:35:23.840
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01:35:24.460
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01:35:25.300
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01:35:35.340
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