Verdict with Ted Cruz - April 22, 2022


The Sweet Air of Freedom, LIVE at University of Alabama


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1 hour and 35 minutes

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168.34535

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16,129

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662

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

31


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00:00:07.600 We are here at the University of Alabama.
00:00:11.520 We are here in Tuscaloosa.
00:00:14.040 So exciting.
00:00:18.260 I gotta say, it is great to be back in America.
00:00:22.320 It is.
00:00:23.620 We've been in hostile territory on this tour.
00:00:27.340 We are back in good old America.
00:00:29.200 There's only one thing I'm more excited about.
00:00:31.920 I just got a text from a friend of mine.
00:00:33.900 This happened about an hour ago.
00:00:35.480 I'm just gonna read the text out.
00:00:38.200 Wow.
00:00:39.460 I'm mid-flight on my way from Newark to Salt Lake City,
00:00:43.840 and they just announced on the airplane speaker
00:00:46.740 that masks are no longer required.
00:00:50.560 Everyone cheered.
00:00:52.480 There's a shot we might get freedom back.
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00:03:35.480 Senator, we so rarely get any good news
00:03:38.800 as conservatives these days.
00:03:40.700 It's been a pretty tough news cycle.
00:03:42.800 This just broke a few hours ago.
00:03:45.320 A federal judge,
00:03:46.820 a Trump-appointed federal judge,
00:03:49.200 young judge who looks like
00:03:50.980 she's going to have a great career.
00:03:53.000 She just appears to have ended
00:03:55.920 the CDC mask mandate
00:03:59.160 for public transportation.
00:04:01.000 It is spectacular.
00:04:04.860 You know, I got to say,
00:04:06.280 I flew this afternoon
00:04:07.440 from Texas to Alabama.
00:04:08.640 I'm pissed.
00:04:10.000 She didn't issue a ruling this morning.
00:04:12.420 A few hours too late.
00:04:13.760 Because I had to wear the bloody mask
00:04:14.960 flying here.
00:04:16.260 What I love about that text,
00:04:18.680 so Michael showed me that text
00:04:19.780 right before we walked on,
00:04:20.980 is your buddy is a priest.
00:04:22.980 So you've literally got a priest
00:04:24.840 on a plane texting you,
00:04:27.160 holy crap,
00:04:27.820 we get to take our masks off.
00:04:29.980 He actually followed it up.
00:04:31.680 He said,
00:04:32.080 the poor guy next to me
00:04:33.300 is still asleep.
00:04:34.440 Should I just take it off his face?
00:04:36.180 I don't,
00:04:37.020 that way you can breathe just fine.
00:04:38.720 I'm glad you told him no on that one.
00:04:40.480 Yeah, that's probably not.
00:04:41.900 But this is actually,
00:04:43.540 on the one hand,
00:04:44.480 this is such great news.
00:04:46.180 I'm so excited.
00:04:47.320 I've got a flight coming up on Thursday.
00:04:49.680 I can't wait to exercise my freedom.
00:04:53.040 On the other hand,
00:04:54.520 is this what our country has come to?
00:04:56.720 That we need to celebrate
00:04:58.300 being able to breathe
00:05:00.160 without a muzzle on?
00:05:01.680 I mean,
00:05:02.180 think how asinine this is.
00:05:03.820 Two years ago,
00:05:04.760 if someone would have suggested
00:05:06.020 to everyone here
00:05:06.840 that the government's going to step in
00:05:09.300 and make a rule
00:05:10.760 that everyone has to wear a mask
00:05:12.420 every damn moment of the day
00:05:14.620 that you can't get on an airplane,
00:05:16.820 that you can't get on a train,
00:05:17.940 you can't get in the bus,
00:05:18.860 you can't get in an Uber
00:05:19.960 without putting on a stupid mask.
00:05:23.340 Nobody would have believed that.
00:05:25.180 I mean,
00:05:25.420 it really is an interesting moment.
00:05:28.760 You and I were sitting backstage going,
00:05:30.580 why are we so damn happy?
00:05:33.920 And to be honest,
00:05:35.160 on some level,
00:05:35.920 maybe the American people
00:05:36.980 should have said to heck with this
00:05:38.380 and collectively thrown our masks down.
00:05:41.480 Yep.
00:05:42.060 But the problem is,
00:05:42.980 on an airplane,
00:05:43.640 they've got a power imbalance.
00:05:44.820 If you did that yesterday
00:05:46.520 and said to heck with this,
00:05:48.080 I'm not going to wear a mask,
00:05:50.000 they'd throw you off the plane.
00:05:51.300 Yep.
00:05:51.480 And they did it to a lot of people.
00:05:52.920 The Navy SEAL
00:05:54.200 who killed Osama bin Laden,
00:05:55.960 you think that guy
00:05:56.780 would get a lot of credit in America?
00:05:58.460 He'd be able to do
00:05:59.100 kind of whatever he wants?
00:06:00.960 They booted him off the plane.
00:06:02.700 It is...
00:06:04.040 By the way,
00:06:04.500 killing Osama bin Laden,
00:06:05.580 that's kind of a big deal.
00:06:06.960 You would think.
00:06:07.880 Not enough to let you
00:06:09.520 ride mask-free, though.
00:06:10.900 You know,
00:06:11.260 it is not only that,
00:06:13.320 but there was a big push
00:06:14.820 to add to the no-fly list
00:06:17.800 people thrown off planes
00:06:19.440 for not wearing masks.
00:06:21.420 Yeah.
00:06:21.680 So this is a list
00:06:22.860 that's designed for terrorists,
00:06:24.640 for people that are,
00:06:25.780 you know,
00:06:26.100 actually want to hijack planes
00:06:28.540 and fly them into buildings
00:06:29.660 and murder people.
00:06:31.080 We're now going to add
00:06:32.560 the guy who shot
00:06:33.680 Osama bin Laden,
00:06:34.800 arguably,
00:06:35.240 because if you failed
00:06:38.180 to comply with this mandate,
00:06:40.760 you were going to be banned.
00:06:41.900 And the argument was
00:06:42.620 not even just one airline
00:06:43.900 because some people say,
00:06:44.720 well,
00:06:44.940 they're a private company.
00:06:45.960 No,
00:06:46.080 what they were urging
00:06:46.980 the federal government
00:06:48.260 to do is make it
00:06:49.080 a no-fly list
00:06:49.920 on any airline.
00:06:51.060 Yeah.
00:06:51.520 That you were forbidden
00:06:52.700 if you wanted to go
00:06:53.620 to Tuscaloosa,
00:06:54.400 any other place
00:06:55.280 in the United States
00:06:57.160 or across planet Earth,
00:06:58.680 you better get a bicycle
00:07:00.220 or a car
00:07:01.020 or a truck
00:07:01.520 or a boat
00:07:02.120 because you weren't
00:07:02.700 going to be able to fly.
00:07:03.860 And that power imbalance
00:07:06.600 is, I think, dangerous.
00:07:08.240 So I'll take the win
00:07:10.100 however we can get it.
00:07:11.300 I think I don't want
00:07:12.820 to let the perfect
00:07:13.740 get in the way
00:07:14.380 of the good.
00:07:15.060 I don't want to clutch defeat
00:07:16.440 from the jaws of victory
00:07:17.560 like conservatives
00:07:18.560 so often do.
00:07:20.220 You know a fair bit
00:07:21.580 about the law
00:07:22.140 more than I do.
00:07:24.020 What was the argument
00:07:25.220 here from the judge?
00:07:26.480 So the argument,
00:07:27.580 this is a district judge
00:07:28.920 in Florida,
00:07:29.940 federal district judge,
00:07:30.960 and it was a group
00:07:31.540 of plaintiffs
00:07:32.100 who brought a lawsuit.
00:07:34.040 A couple of the plaintiffs,
00:07:35.100 one said that they suffered
00:07:37.580 anxiety from wearing a mask
00:07:39.380 and others said
00:07:39.880 they weren't flying
00:07:40.760 nearly as much
00:07:41.880 because they didn't like
00:07:42.540 wearing a mask,
00:07:43.200 had trouble breathing.
00:07:44.800 And the Biden administration
00:07:46.780 defended,
00:07:47.980 and the argument was,
00:07:49.080 does the CDC
00:07:49.860 have the authority
00:07:50.900 to issue this rule?
00:07:52.000 I got to say,
00:07:52.640 every time I was on a plane,
00:07:54.620 I would hear the flight attendant
00:07:56.300 come over the loudspeaker
00:07:59.100 and the flight attendant
00:07:59.860 would say,
00:08:01.200 federal law requires
00:08:02.860 you to wear your mask.
00:08:05.100 And I'm sitting there
00:08:05.760 going,
00:08:05.980 wait a second,
00:08:06.500 federal law.
00:08:08.100 I seem to recall
00:08:09.420 for something to be
00:08:10.260 federal law,
00:08:11.060 there being something
00:08:11.760 in the Constitution
00:08:12.680 about it passing the House,
00:08:14.620 passing the Senate,
00:08:15.460 being signed by the President,
00:08:16.780 becoming, well,
00:08:17.480 you know,
00:08:17.700 federal law.
00:08:18.380 If I'm not mistaken,
00:08:19.520 Senator,
00:08:20.300 you are a federal lawmaker.
00:08:22.420 Is that right?
00:08:23.240 And if that happened,
00:08:24.460 I kind of missed it.
00:08:26.440 Because we didn't vote on it.
00:08:28.180 We didn't have
00:08:28.740 any federal law on it.
00:08:29.760 What happened?
00:08:31.260 Joe Biden issued
00:08:32.500 an executive order.
00:08:33.680 He got into the White House.
00:08:34.780 He issued an order
00:08:35.600 that said,
00:08:36.300 I think a mask mandate
00:08:37.480 is a hot diggity damn good idea.
00:08:39.920 Those were his exact words.
00:08:41.500 He invoked corn pop, too.
00:08:43.300 I don't know what it meant.
00:08:45.300 Then he promptly turned
00:08:46.500 to shake the hand
00:08:47.260 of an imaginary rabbit
00:08:48.220 that was next to him.
00:08:49.000 Yes, he does.
00:08:49.520 He does.
00:08:50.120 By the way,
00:08:50.660 the imaginary rabbit's right here.
00:08:51.960 Good to see you.
00:08:52.320 Nice to see you.
00:08:53.020 Two weeks later,
00:08:56.280 the CDC,
00:08:56.980 the bureaucrats
00:08:57.660 at the CDC
00:08:58.380 put out this new rule,
00:08:59.760 except they said,
00:09:00.400 uh-uh,
00:09:00.740 it's not a rule.
00:09:02.080 Because there's actually
00:09:02.900 a federal law,
00:09:03.760 the Administrative Procedures Act,
00:09:05.800 that says if a federal agency
00:09:07.200 wants to issue a rule,
00:09:08.640 there's a way
00:09:09.180 you issue a rule.
00:09:10.040 And in particular,
00:09:10.720 you put it up
00:09:11.260 for notice and comment.
00:09:12.880 In other words,
00:09:13.620 the agency says,
00:09:14.560 okay,
00:09:14.780 this is a rule
00:09:15.460 we're considering.
00:09:16.680 The American people,
00:09:17.760 you got 30 days
00:09:18.760 to comment on us,
00:09:19.860 to tell us,
00:09:20.420 is it a good idea,
00:09:21.180 is it a bad idea,
00:09:22.440 you've got to weigh
00:09:23.300 the arguments,
00:09:24.220 you've got to weigh
00:09:24.720 the evidence.
00:09:25.540 And the legal standard
00:09:26.880 is that it can't be
00:09:28.660 arbitrary or capricious.
00:09:30.880 And the federal district
00:09:32.160 judge in this case
00:09:33.180 has a very reasoned opinion
00:09:35.320 that goes through
00:09:37.120 in detail
00:09:37.880 examining the
00:09:38.860 statutory language.
00:09:40.000 Number one,
00:09:40.960 there's a general statute
00:09:42.300 that deals with
00:09:43.340 health crises.
00:09:45.000 And she says,
00:09:45.680 look,
00:09:46.880 that statute
00:09:47.700 doesn't give
00:09:48.440 these broad powers
00:09:49.940 to impose
00:09:50.820 whether it's
00:09:51.400 mask mandates
00:09:52.200 or vaccine mandates.
00:09:54.040 Or remember,
00:09:54.680 the government
00:09:55.100 before argued
00:09:56.180 that they had
00:09:57.300 the power
00:09:57.880 to impose
00:09:58.880 an eviction moratorium
00:10:00.360 to decree,
00:10:01.440 if you happen
00:10:02.580 to have a rental house,
00:10:03.580 if you're renting out
00:10:04.240 your garage apartment,
00:10:05.620 you can't collect rent.
00:10:06.920 Why?
00:10:07.560 Because we decree
00:10:08.660 it to be so,
00:10:10.820 never mind
00:10:11.420 the niceties
00:10:12.100 of passing a law
00:10:13.860 subject to
00:10:15.160 democratic accountability.
00:10:16.500 And the district judge
00:10:17.620 went through
00:10:18.940 the statutory language.
00:10:21.940 CDC admitted
00:10:22.820 it hadn't done
00:10:23.540 notice and comment.
00:10:24.360 It said,
00:10:24.620 well,
00:10:24.700 it was an emergency.
00:10:26.200 Because they have
00:10:27.520 the right,
00:10:28.200 according to the
00:10:28.760 Administrative Procedures Act,
00:10:30.340 to say,
00:10:31.020 well,
00:10:31.320 we have good cause
00:10:32.860 to suspend
00:10:34.240 these rules
00:10:34.780 because if we didn't
00:10:35.920 suspend the rules,
00:10:37.340 why mayhem
00:10:38.960 would ensue,
00:10:39.900 we would not be able
00:10:40.760 to take care
00:10:41.280 of this public emergency.
00:10:43.640 Well,
00:10:43.880 and one of the things
00:10:44.660 the district court
00:10:45.320 said is,
00:10:45.880 look,
00:10:46.080 this thing
00:10:46.560 had been going on
00:10:47.320 for over a year.
00:10:48.400 COVID infections
00:10:49.240 were going down.
00:10:50.520 If it was suddenly
00:10:51.880 this oh-so-crazy emergency,
00:10:54.840 what happened
00:10:55.260 the prior year?
00:10:56.140 How did you suddenly
00:10:57.100 discover it was
00:10:58.100 an emergency
00:10:58.700 then?
00:11:00.300 Yeah.
00:11:00.960 And so,
00:11:02.140 this decision,
00:11:03.000 the end of the decision,
00:11:04.280 the district judge
00:11:05.320 vacates the rule.
00:11:07.000 So,
00:11:07.240 as we were sitting
00:11:07.860 backstage getting ready
00:11:09.060 for the show,
00:11:10.700 we were talking about,
00:11:11.880 okay,
00:11:12.080 what does this mean?
00:11:13.020 And like,
00:11:13.260 I'm going to fly back
00:11:13.800 to Texas tomorrow.
00:11:14.580 And I'm like wondering,
00:11:15.300 am I going to wear
00:11:15.820 the stupid mask or not?
00:11:17.020 I really hope
00:11:17.720 the answer is no.
00:11:19.760 And it was
00:11:20.380 an interesting question.
00:11:21.480 What is the Biden
00:11:22.640 administration going to do?
00:11:25.320 And one option
00:11:26.460 is appeal,
00:11:27.040 and they could still appeal.
00:11:28.020 They probably will,
00:11:29.260 but maybe not.
00:11:30.860 Another option,
00:11:32.020 they could conceivably
00:11:33.260 try to defy the court.
00:11:35.620 But that's a high-risk option
00:11:37.500 because the end
00:11:38.320 of the district court's order,
00:11:40.640 the district court
00:11:41.660 vacates the rule.
00:11:42.940 So when you vacate the rule,
00:11:44.680 you essentially erase it.
00:11:45.780 It doesn't exist.
00:11:46.660 So,
00:11:46.840 because this was the question
00:11:48.000 some of my friends
00:11:48.720 have been asking me.
00:11:49.880 I think my friend
00:11:50.580 who is 30,000 feet
00:11:51.660 probably has answered it
00:11:53.280 practically to some degree.
00:11:54.660 But usually when you talk
00:11:55.740 about your friend
00:11:56.320 30,000 feet,
00:11:57.340 you're talking about
00:11:57.940 the good Lord.
00:11:58.660 But in this case,
00:11:59.280 you're talking about
00:11:59.840 a priest on an airplane.
00:12:01.020 Slightly lower,
00:12:01.960 I would say.
00:12:02.640 That's right.
00:12:03.400 Though not unrelated.
00:12:04.380 There you go.
00:12:05.880 But my friends will ask me,
00:12:07.420 they'll say,
00:12:07.740 okay,
00:12:08.320 so the bureaucracy
00:12:09.560 said this
00:12:10.480 and the judge said this
00:12:12.380 and so,
00:12:13.120 look,
00:12:13.420 I don't care about
00:12:14.000 any of that.
00:12:14.880 Do I have to wear
00:12:15.500 the mask or not?
00:12:16.180 You're saying the ruling
00:12:16.960 actually does erase the rule.
00:12:19.820 So the rule is vacated.
00:12:21.500 It is,
00:12:22.100 it has no force in effect.
00:12:24.380 But the next question
00:12:25.300 was going to be,
00:12:26.120 what are the airlines
00:12:26.700 going to say?
00:12:28.020 Because the airlines
00:12:29.300 are still private companies.
00:12:31.200 They could,
00:12:31.900 in theory,
00:12:32.620 say we're going to
00:12:33.540 require a mask
00:12:34.480 even though the federal law
00:12:35.620 doesn't require it.
00:12:36.320 Remember,
00:12:36.960 we had a mask mandate
00:12:37.920 before that.
00:12:38.720 Early on in COVID,
00:12:40.420 a lot of us flew
00:12:41.300 and you wore masks.
00:12:42.360 There wasn't any federal law.
00:12:43.540 They didn't say
00:12:43.960 federal law required it.
00:12:45.220 It's just the airlines
00:12:46.520 wanted to get people
00:12:47.300 to come on planes
00:12:48.220 and they said,
00:12:48.720 all right,
00:12:48.860 let's put this rule in place
00:12:50.200 because people are scared.
00:12:51.700 It'll let them come on.
00:12:52.740 So conceivably,
00:12:54.680 the airlines could have said,
00:12:55.960 we're going to keep
00:12:56.520 this rule in place.
00:12:58.120 But it's interesting
00:12:59.280 that the debate
00:13:00.460 on this has shifted.
00:13:01.720 So early on,
00:13:04.020 the most vigorous advocates
00:13:06.100 for this rule
00:13:07.320 were the flight attendants union.
00:13:09.000 The union of flight attendants
00:13:10.460 were pushing for it,
00:13:11.940 concerned about safety.
00:13:13.740 That's now shifted.
00:13:14.920 I think a lot of flight attendants
00:13:16.100 are annoyed
00:13:16.760 at being mask police.
00:13:18.420 Their whole job
00:13:19.300 is particularly,
00:13:21.060 have you noticed
00:13:21.840 the flight attendant
00:13:22.600 that's so uptight
00:13:23.840 that literally is between sips?
00:13:25.960 You know,
00:13:26.140 you put your Diet Coke down.
00:13:27.300 Nope,
00:13:27.660 put your mask on.
00:13:28.880 Not only do you,
00:13:30.380 and this is,
00:13:31.200 I find this is the rarity.
00:13:32.780 Usually the flight attendants
00:13:33.920 have been very nice about it.
00:13:35.020 Most of them know
00:13:35.900 it's ridiculous.
00:13:36.900 But that distinct minority...
00:13:38.700 Oh, there's one or two
00:13:39.400 that take it very seriously.
00:13:41.320 And I should point out,
00:13:42.160 Senator, by the way,
00:13:43.460 you are somewhat
00:13:44.360 responsible for this.
00:13:45.580 I'll just call you out
00:13:46.460 right on stage.
00:13:47.840 You were coming out
00:13:48.580 to visit,
00:13:49.020 back when we were in L.A.,
00:13:49.900 you were coming out
00:13:50.360 to visit,
00:13:50.700 we were going to film
00:13:51.300 some episodes together,
00:13:52.860 and you pioneered,
00:13:54.760 you pioneered
00:13:55.340 the coffee cup strategy.
00:13:57.100 So you take one slow sip
00:13:59.560 from your coffee
00:14:00.360 for about four hours
00:14:01.800 at a time,
00:14:02.360 and that way
00:14:03.240 you don't need
00:14:04.180 to wear the mask.
00:14:04.700 And I have to admit,
00:14:06.080 one of the ridiculous things
00:14:08.080 about just sort of
00:14:09.160 the reality
00:14:09.980 of being in the Senate
00:14:11.020 is there's always
00:14:13.380 some jackrabbit,
00:14:18.060 I'm trying to use
00:14:19.900 a PG term.
00:14:20.620 It's a very polite language.
00:14:21.240 Yeah, I'm mellowing
00:14:23.020 my old age,
00:14:24.220 who will try to snap
00:14:25.960 a picture of you.
00:14:27.540 And they want to catch,
00:14:28.580 and by the way,
00:14:29.100 I love the pictures
00:14:30.040 of the Democratic senators
00:14:31.060 who insist on mask mandates
00:14:32.420 for everyone
00:14:32.900 who take their mask off
00:14:34.080 and are happily sitting
00:14:34.720 on planes ignoring it.
00:14:36.260 But I will say
00:14:37.580 one defensive strategy
00:14:39.140 on planes I do.
00:14:40.360 So number one,
00:14:41.040 my mask,
00:14:42.020 which I hope to frame
00:14:43.660 as a relic
00:14:44.240 never to need again,
00:14:45.620 is a Texas mask
00:14:46.800 that says,
00:14:47.260 come and take it.
00:14:47.800 But I'm particularly fond
00:14:55.980 of draping on one ear
00:14:57.420 with a coffee cup.
00:14:58.680 And I can nurse
00:14:59.960 the heck out of a coffee cup.
00:15:01.980 That's in case
00:15:02.620 the coffee spills,
00:15:03.740 the mask will catch it.
00:15:04.680 Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:15:05.760 And in that case,
00:15:06.540 you actually are saying,
00:15:07.400 please, come and take it.
00:15:08.200 I don't want the mask,
00:15:09.060 please, it's yours now.
00:15:10.220 Go on.
00:15:10.660 So, okay.
00:15:12.320 But the airline CEOs
00:15:14.320 recently wrote a letter
00:15:16.080 to the administration,
00:15:16.940 almost all the major CEOs say,
00:15:18.800 okay, please get rid
00:15:19.840 of the mask mandate.
00:15:20.720 Enough already.
00:15:22.800 And that may have shifted
00:15:24.020 the dynamic
00:15:24.660 because what happened
00:15:25.620 this afternoon
00:15:26.400 after the decision
00:15:27.540 is several of the major
00:15:29.720 airline CEOs announced,
00:15:31.260 okay, we're done.
00:15:32.880 And I'm amazed
00:15:33.740 that your friend
00:15:34.840 was on the plane
00:15:36.020 and they're literally announcing
00:15:37.560 it's like the World Series score.
00:15:39.280 Take your damn masks off.
00:15:41.100 The freedom wins.
00:15:42.480 The freedom wins.
00:15:43.360 So I obviously,
00:15:44.960 we've got a few people to thank.
00:15:46.240 I want to thank YAF,
00:15:47.720 as always, for hosting.
00:15:48.920 I want to thank the Logan family
00:15:50.300 for supporting this lecture series.
00:15:53.120 I want to thank this judge
00:15:54.560 for letting me breathe free again.
00:15:56.400 That's going to be great.
00:15:57.420 Judge Mizell.
00:15:58.520 Judge, she is great.
00:15:59.900 I love her.
00:16:00.360 So if any of y'all
00:16:01.640 are going out on the town,
00:16:02.680 I know nobody
00:16:03.500 at the University of Alabama drinks.
00:16:05.080 Nope.
00:16:05.920 Nope.
00:16:07.340 But if,
00:16:08.920 I'm not going to suggest
00:16:10.000 beer or tequila or anything,
00:16:11.860 but if you happen to have
00:16:12.980 some seltzer water,
00:16:15.200 lift a toast
00:16:16.920 to Judge Mizell.
00:16:17.920 Yes.
00:16:18.440 She did great.
00:16:20.060 Thank you.
00:16:20.240 I wish,
00:16:24.400 I wish we didn't need
00:16:26.100 to rely on just one judge
00:16:27.800 to give us our basic freedoms back,
00:16:29.600 but that's the world we're living in.
00:16:30.940 I'll take the win.
00:16:31.860 Yeah.
00:16:31.980 And this,
00:16:32.620 this actually is exactly
00:16:34.200 how I feel
00:16:35.000 about a separate,
00:16:36.500 albeit somewhat related,
00:16:37.480 situation
00:16:38.040 on Twitter.
00:16:39.040 I don't like
00:16:40.380 that we need to rely
00:16:41.380 on one eccentric billionaire
00:16:43.180 to bail us out
00:16:44.600 of this censorship nonsense
00:16:46.580 that the leftist ruling class
00:16:48.360 has foisted on us,
00:16:49.940 but I sure am glad
00:16:50.860 he's doing it.
00:16:51.700 However it's going to work,
00:16:53.120 we need free speech
00:16:54.360 in this country,
00:16:55.220 and if a handful of oligarchs
00:16:56.840 are going to control speech
00:16:57.800 in our republic,
00:16:58.820 then help us, Elon,
00:17:00.000 go on in there
00:17:00.840 and buy out Twitter.
00:17:02.300 So then, Senator,
00:17:03.120 my question to you is,
00:17:04.940 Elon goes in,
00:17:06.460 he tries to buy Twitter,
00:17:07.420 he already has a huge stake,
00:17:08.440 take over 9%,
00:17:09.260 he wants to take over
00:17:11.000 the rest of the company,
00:17:12.260 the Twitter board of directors,
00:17:13.860 as I understand it,
00:17:15.300 pulled a poison pill,
00:17:17.400 they said that they're going
00:17:18.640 to actually crash
00:17:19.820 the value of the shares,
00:17:21.500 so they're going to harm
00:17:21.980 the shareholders,
00:17:23.040 to stop Elon Musk
00:17:24.800 from being able
00:17:25.720 to take over the company,
00:17:27.280 because censoring conservatives
00:17:29.460 is more important to them
00:17:30.640 than maintaining the value
00:17:31.820 of their company.
00:17:33.680 So is it all over?
00:17:35.460 Thankfully, no.
00:17:36.580 All right.
00:17:36.900 Let me say,
00:17:38.240 first of all,
00:17:39.560 this battle right now
00:17:40.980 between Elon Musk
00:17:41.960 and Twitter,
00:17:43.020 I think,
00:17:44.760 it was a funny Freudian slip.
00:17:46.800 I didn't actually mean
00:17:48.060 to say that,
00:17:48.780 but...
00:17:49.260 A Freudian slip
00:17:49.960 is where you say one thing
00:17:50.860 but me and your mother,
00:17:51.560 right?
00:17:51.840 Is that how that goes?
00:17:52.900 I think it is one of the most
00:17:58.200 important moments
00:17:59.140 for free speech
00:18:00.080 in decades.
00:18:02.460 This is a testing moment
00:18:04.120 where big tech
00:18:05.120 keeps getting more
00:18:06.160 and more brazen,
00:18:07.420 saying,
00:18:07.900 we can control
00:18:08.580 everything you say,
00:18:09.880 we can control
00:18:10.680 everything you hear,
00:18:11.780 we can control
00:18:12.380 everything in your feed,
00:18:13.420 we can control
00:18:13.960 everything you listen,
00:18:14.960 we can silence
00:18:15.620 every view we don't like,
00:18:16.960 we can only amplify
00:18:18.060 the views we like.
00:18:19.140 And suddenly,
00:18:21.200 Elon Musk came in
00:18:22.580 and is threatening
00:18:24.520 to tip over
00:18:25.440 the apple cart.
00:18:27.000 And there are
00:18:28.200 lots of aspects to us.
00:18:29.940 I will confess,
00:18:30.940 probably the funniest
00:18:31.960 is the Washington Post,
00:18:35.640 which is wholly owned
00:18:37.580 by Jeff Bezos,
00:18:38.960 wrote an editorial
00:18:41.620 saying it would be
00:18:43.600 bad for democracy
00:18:45.540 for a rich Silicon Valley
00:18:48.080 billionaire
00:18:48.700 to own
00:18:50.020 a means of communication.
00:18:51.720 Well, they admit it.
00:18:52.360 They say,
00:18:52.840 democracy dies in darkness.
00:18:54.840 That's the motto
00:18:55.440 the Washington Post
00:18:56.120 are saying.
00:18:56.400 That's what happened.
00:18:57.060 What's funny is
00:18:57.780 when they wrote it,
00:18:58.500 they meant it as a bad thing.
00:19:00.160 It is now
00:19:01.140 their mission statement,
00:19:02.540 more darkness
00:19:03.920 kill democracy.
00:19:05.960 But, look,
00:19:07.100 so what has happened?
00:19:08.660 Twitter,
00:19:11.000 Elon Musk came in,
00:19:12.820 bought just under 10%.
00:19:14.600 Initially,
00:19:15.860 they offered him
00:19:16.360 a board seat.
00:19:17.380 They said,
00:19:17.720 hey, come join the board.
00:19:19.240 And it was very funny
00:19:20.240 seeing these Twitter engineers
00:19:22.180 losing their mind
00:19:23.540 that he was going
00:19:24.620 to join the board.
00:19:25.420 And then suddenly,
00:19:26.440 Elon said,
00:19:26.800 wait a second.
00:19:28.180 I think I won't
00:19:28.960 join your board.
00:19:30.560 I think I'll buy you.
00:19:31.920 Because there was
00:19:32.500 a condition.
00:19:33.120 If he joined the board,
00:19:34.760 he couldn't buy
00:19:35.920 more than 15%
00:19:37.300 of the company,
00:19:38.040 which means,
00:19:38.840 relatively,
00:19:39.440 he has very little power.
00:19:40.680 Yeah, he could stand
00:19:41.340 there and yell.
00:19:42.020 Yeah.
00:19:42.820 And he's like,
00:19:43.400 wait a second.
00:19:43.960 And I'm richer
00:19:45.680 than all of you guys.
00:19:48.220 Like, you know
00:19:49.400 those electric cars
00:19:50.240 in the parking lot?
00:19:51.860 I made them.
00:19:53.340 By the way,
00:19:54.000 this dude literally
00:19:54.840 launched his car
00:19:55.660 into space.
00:19:56.540 Yeah, that's how you know
00:19:57.400 he means business.
00:19:58.120 You know,
00:19:58.680 he is an unusual guy.
00:20:00.220 I've gotten to know
00:20:00.640 Elon a little bit.
00:20:01.400 And he is,
00:20:02.120 I have not smoked
00:20:03.460 a spliff with him.
00:20:04.360 Not yet.
00:20:05.660 That's Joe Rogan territory.
00:20:06.700 You're more of a cigar guy.
00:20:08.620 I would smoke a cigar with him.
00:20:10.740 I haven't.
00:20:11.240 But Elon,
00:20:12.380 I'll invite you
00:20:12.980 to smoke a cigar anytime.
00:20:16.260 But instead of joining
00:20:18.020 the board,
00:20:18.600 he initially said yes,
00:20:19.580 then he said no.
00:20:20.780 And he put an offer out
00:20:22.040 and he put an offer
00:20:22.800 for substantially more
00:20:24.240 than Twitter shares
00:20:25.260 were trading.
00:20:26.540 $54 a share.
00:20:28.460 And the Twitter board
00:20:29.960 met in emergency session
00:20:31.960 and decided,
00:20:33.200 holy crap,
00:20:34.660 our shareholders
00:20:35.540 making a 40% profit
00:20:38.000 overnight is really bad.
00:20:40.520 We are so committed
00:20:42.180 to censorship,
00:20:43.120 we've got to stop it.
00:20:43.980 And so a poison pill,
00:20:45.400 and this is something
00:20:46.420 that really grew up
00:20:47.360 in the 1980s
00:20:48.320 when you had
00:20:48.680 corporate raiders,
00:20:49.560 a poison pill
00:20:50.420 is a mechanism
00:20:51.600 where a board of directors
00:20:52.840 can vote in
00:20:53.780 a punitive measure.
00:20:56.480 In this case,
00:20:57.960 if any individual
00:20:59.080 acquires more than
00:21:00.160 15% of the stock,
00:21:01.840 the other stockholders
00:21:03.180 can buy more stock
00:21:04.480 at a much cheaper price.
00:21:05.820 And so it basically
00:21:06.640 dilutes the stock
00:21:08.180 and makes it much,
00:21:09.980 much more expensive
00:21:10.740 to buy the company.
00:21:11.480 And in this case,
00:21:12.040 it would be
00:21:12.380 every shareholder
00:21:13.640 of Twitter
00:21:14.120 can buy more stock
00:21:15.460 at a discounted price.
00:21:16.700 Except Elon Musk.
00:21:17.440 Except for Elon Musk.
00:21:18.060 Yeah, no,
00:21:18.460 it is designed
00:21:20.180 to stop the takeover.
00:21:22.260 It's designed
00:21:22.860 to stop people
00:21:23.540 from selling their shares
00:21:24.500 for the higher amount
00:21:25.340 and making the money.
00:21:26.680 But what's interesting,
00:21:28.180 so there are
00:21:28.500 a couple of things.
00:21:29.320 Number one,
00:21:31.240 Elon tweeted
00:21:32.140 three words,
00:21:33.560 Love Me Tender.
00:21:34.820 Great song.
00:21:35.760 Great song.
00:21:36.680 I don't know
00:21:37.180 if he was humming it.
00:21:38.000 I don't know
00:21:38.200 if he had blue suede shoes.
00:21:39.400 But he tweeted
00:21:40.480 Love Me Tender,
00:21:41.460 which everyone took
00:21:42.800 to suggest
00:21:43.680 that his next step
00:21:45.380 may be to make
00:21:46.440 a tender offer,
00:21:47.360 which is a formal offer
00:21:49.360 to all Twitter shareholders,
00:21:51.720 presumably at that price
00:21:53.020 or maybe a higher price,
00:21:54.780 to purchase their shares.
00:21:56.740 Now, a tender offer,
00:21:58.160 you do through
00:21:58.840 a formal filing
00:21:59.760 with the SEC.
00:22:00.540 That's one
00:22:02.280 potential escalation.
00:22:04.160 Although,
00:22:04.960 the tender offer
00:22:05.780 presumably would trigger
00:22:07.040 the poison pill.
00:22:10.520 Secondly,
00:22:11.180 another option
00:22:11.920 he can do
00:22:12.440 that's being widely discussed
00:22:13.680 is he can find
00:22:15.740 a few friends.
00:22:17.320 And you know,
00:22:17.820 when you're the richest man
00:22:18.800 on planet Earth,
00:22:20.280 You're not hanging around
00:22:21.060 with paupers.
00:22:21.960 You can find
00:22:22.860 a few friends.
00:22:23.520 And if, say,
00:22:27.100 he's got three friends,
00:22:28.420 each of whom acquire
00:22:29.480 14.9%,
00:22:30.880 that math adds up
00:22:32.860 to more than 50%,
00:22:34.080 but doesn't trigger
00:22:34.700 the poison pill.
00:22:35.760 So that's one possibility.
00:22:37.640 I know there's been
00:22:38.140 speculation
00:22:38.900 Peter Thiel might join him.
00:22:41.300 Some private equity funds
00:22:42.560 might join him.
00:22:43.580 But if he had a coalition
00:22:44.920 that buys Twitter,
00:22:46.560 that could get
00:22:47.280 to the same place.
00:22:49.320 You could also see lawsuits
00:22:50.580 because one of the
00:22:51.220 amazing things,
00:22:53.100 the Twitter board
00:22:53.840 of directors,
00:22:55.120 other than Jack Dorsey,
00:22:56.300 who's leaving
00:22:56.920 the board of directors,
00:22:58.280 and by the way,
00:22:58.820 the guy really does
00:22:59.720 look like a billy goat
00:23:00.520 under a bridge.
00:23:02.320 Hipster Rasputin,
00:23:03.460 I call him.
00:23:04.140 Like, it's one thing
00:23:05.360 to grow a beard
00:23:06.220 down to your knees,
00:23:07.400 but like,
00:23:07.780 to never comb it?
00:23:08.780 Like, it's really weird.
00:23:10.380 Kind of odd,
00:23:11.820 Eastern Orthodox,
00:23:13.200 Silicon Valley style.
00:23:14.100 Yeah, it is.
00:23:15.740 It's unusual.
00:23:17.140 I met him,
00:23:17.800 but when I met him,
00:23:18.440 he had a soul patch.
00:23:19.180 That's how long ago
00:23:19.800 it's been.
00:23:21.160 That's actually true.
00:23:24.860 But other than Dorsey,
00:23:27.100 almost none of the members
00:23:28.260 of the board of Twitter
00:23:29.220 own any significant stock.
00:23:31.560 Well, this is something
00:23:32.300 that's pretty strange.
00:23:33.700 If you look at the board,
00:23:34.920 and Dorsey is now
00:23:35.660 leaving the board
00:23:36.380 of the company
00:23:37.000 that he co-founded,
00:23:38.280 the amount of Twitter
00:23:39.480 that these board members
00:23:40.420 actually own
00:23:41.140 is minuscule.
00:23:42.000 It's barely anything at all.
00:23:43.400 And this is the other point
00:23:44.380 with Elon.
00:23:45.120 So I hope that the
00:23:46.200 Elon Musk takeover works.
00:23:47.800 I want more
00:23:48.420 Babylon Bee tweets.
00:23:49.580 I want Charlie Kirk
00:23:50.440 to get back on.
00:23:51.460 And really,
00:23:52.260 I need the Trump tweets.
00:23:54.200 I need more.
00:23:55.420 Yes, yes, yes.
00:23:56.560 We need them.
00:23:58.900 It's one of the main reasons.
00:24:00.760 So I want it to work.
00:24:03.180 I want it to work.
00:24:04.620 But even if it doesn't work,
00:24:06.340 one of the things
00:24:07.560 that Elon
00:24:08.740 has already accomplished
00:24:09.800 is he has exposed
00:24:11.820 very serious corruption
00:24:13.700 at Twitter,
00:24:14.740 which is just one
00:24:15.460 of the big tech companies.
00:24:16.340 It's actually
00:24:16.720 the smallest one.
00:24:17.480 It never occurred
00:24:18.440 to me to think,
00:24:19.140 wait,
00:24:20.380 who owns Twitter?
00:24:22.360 Black Rock owns
00:24:23.480 a lot of Twitter.
00:24:24.400 Look,
00:24:24.680 the giant funds
00:24:25.860 and to see Wall Street
00:24:27.220 rush in and say,
00:24:28.320 no,
00:24:28.620 we want to keep
00:24:29.440 the censorship going.
00:24:30.880 Yeah.
00:24:31.340 To see a Saudi prince
00:24:33.020 come in and say,
00:24:33.780 no,
00:24:34.060 no,
00:24:34.200 no,
00:24:34.320 no,
00:24:34.440 no,
00:24:34.520 no,
00:24:35.020 no free speech allowed.
00:24:36.460 Like,
00:24:36.740 what the hell?
00:24:37.620 Wait,
00:24:37.880 since when does
00:24:38.380 Saudi Arabia
00:24:39.020 get to dictate
00:24:39.680 free speech in America?
00:24:40.700 And it is,
00:24:42.280 so the Twitter
00:24:42.960 board of directors
00:24:43.860 just brazenly
00:24:45.440 screws their shareholders.
00:24:47.420 Just says,
00:24:48.140 we like our power more.
00:24:49.780 Now,
00:24:50.400 Twitter is incorporated
00:24:51.540 as a Delaware corporation.
00:24:52.900 A whole bunch of companies
00:24:53.820 in America
00:24:54.240 are incorporated
00:24:54.840 in Delaware.
00:24:55.920 It has corporate law
00:24:57.340 that is very well developed
00:24:58.640 and there's a standard,
00:25:00.140 the general standard,
00:25:01.760 if a shareholder
00:25:02.700 sues the board of directors
00:25:04.380 is what's called
00:25:04.980 the business judgment rule.
00:25:06.580 Okay.
00:25:06.800 And it means,
00:25:07.520 as a general matter,
00:25:08.580 there's a high degree
00:25:09.600 of deference
00:25:10.420 to the decision
00:25:11.840 either the shareholder,
00:25:13.280 the board of directors makes
00:25:14.700 or the company officers make,
00:25:16.740 but there's an exception,
00:25:18.440 a case called
00:25:18.980 the Revlon case
00:25:20.060 that is in the context
00:25:22.140 of a hostile takeover.
00:25:23.620 If it becomes clear
00:25:25.160 that the company
00:25:26.520 is going to be sold,
00:25:27.840 then the board of directors
00:25:30.980 can't just act
00:25:32.100 to protect their own rear ends
00:25:33.420 and keep their own jobs.
00:25:35.000 They have a duty
00:25:36.120 to the shareholders
00:25:36.940 to maximize the price,
00:25:38.140 to get the highest price
00:25:39.300 for the shareholders.
00:25:40.560 So one of the things
00:25:41.620 that may flow out of this
00:25:42.900 is a whole bunch
00:25:44.080 of lawsuits.
00:25:45.560 And, you know,
00:25:46.020 it's striking.
00:25:46.760 One of the board members
00:25:49.040 of Twitter
00:25:49.480 is Bob Zellick.
00:25:51.320 Bob Zellick was the head
00:25:52.500 of the U.S. trade representative
00:25:54.260 under George W. Bush
00:25:55.380 is, I think,
00:25:56.300 the lone Republican
00:25:57.340 on the board.
00:25:58.900 And Elon pointed out,
00:26:00.160 although Bob Zellick
00:26:00.980 is on the board,
00:26:02.360 according to the public records,
00:26:04.340 he has never tweeted
00:26:05.380 once in his life.
00:26:07.480 Does he even know
00:26:08.300 what the company is?
00:26:09.100 He literally,
00:26:10.160 it's like you're
00:26:11.460 on the board
00:26:12.380 of like a dairy
00:26:13.320 and you've never
00:26:13.880 had a glass of milk.
00:26:15.160 Like, it's a little bit weird.
00:26:18.140 Yeah.
00:26:18.880 But it is exposing
00:26:21.160 the fundamental corruption
00:26:22.660 that is at stake.
00:26:23.940 And, you know,
00:26:25.400 I got to say,
00:26:26.900 a lot of folks
00:26:27.640 when it comes to free speech,
00:26:28.980 they say,
00:26:29.740 oh, everybody does it.
00:26:31.880 The left does it,
00:26:32.580 the right does it
00:26:33.200 when it comes to censorship.
00:26:34.800 And that's just not true.
00:26:35.720 In practice,
00:26:36.740 that is not what we've seen.
00:26:38.160 You know, nobody,
00:26:39.060 Elon Musk is not saying,
00:26:40.640 I'm going to buy Twitter
00:26:41.560 and silence all the leftists.
00:26:44.720 He's not saying that.
00:26:45.700 It's not, okay,
00:26:46.520 just my side
00:26:47.300 gets to shut up
00:26:47.940 the other side.
00:26:48.740 He's saying,
00:26:49.340 let everybody talk.
00:26:50.200 Because the fun of Twitter
00:26:51.380 is picking fights
00:26:52.180 with celebrities.
00:26:53.020 So if you got rid
00:26:53.780 of the leftists,
00:26:54.660 what would be the point?
00:26:55.600 It would be unbelievably boring.
00:26:57.260 Yes.
00:26:57.780 You know,
00:26:58.520 it is,
00:26:59.560 it is also interesting,
00:27:03.300 Michael,
00:27:03.620 there's a similarity,
00:27:04.680 I think,
00:27:05.300 between this fight
00:27:06.460 and the mask mandate.
00:27:08.160 In both places,
00:27:09.440 you have private corporations
00:27:11.100 with monopoly
00:27:13.320 or near monopoly positions,
00:27:15.100 whether it is the airlines,
00:27:16.580 you've got an oligopoly,
00:27:17.540 you only have a handful
00:27:18.280 of major airlines.
00:27:19.180 If you want to get
00:27:20.160 from Houston to Tuscaloosa,
00:27:23.220 unless you're willing
00:27:24.140 to get on a car
00:27:25.120 and drive a long way,
00:27:27.340 you've got a handful
00:27:28.020 of options.
00:27:28.960 And those companies
00:27:30.440 have exclusive control
00:27:32.020 over how you can get there.
00:27:33.520 On big tech,
00:27:34.660 Twitter itself
00:27:35.440 is not a monopolist,
00:27:36.600 but if you look
00:27:37.180 at big tech collectively,
00:27:38.680 whether Twitter,
00:27:39.360 Facebook, Google, YouTube,
00:27:41.340 those four companies
00:27:42.640 together control
00:27:44.740 a massive amount
00:27:46.220 of discourse.
00:27:47.140 And we're talking
00:27:48.040 about the flow
00:27:48.760 of 90% plus
00:27:50.320 of information
00:27:51.140 around the internet,
00:27:52.260 which is the public square,
00:27:53.920 which means
00:27:54.660 they're controlling
00:27:55.980 the republic.
00:27:56.680 And a republic,
00:27:57.180 when you speak,
00:27:58.460 when you persuade
00:27:59.120 your fellow citizens,
00:28:00.420 that's how you
00:28:01.020 govern yourself.
00:28:01.900 Well, and all
00:28:02.860 of the lefty blue checks
00:28:04.740 for years said,
00:28:06.840 they're a private company.
00:28:08.500 If you don't like it,
00:28:09.840 build your own.
00:28:10.660 And Elon said,
00:28:11.260 all right,
00:28:11.440 I'll buy them.
00:28:12.060 I bet I buy my own.
00:28:13.040 And they're losing
00:28:14.520 their minds.
00:28:16.860 I mean,
00:28:17.100 to see these
00:28:18.140 so-called journalists,
00:28:19.340 I don't know
00:28:19.580 if you saw,
00:28:20.600 do you ever watch
00:28:21.480 Morning Joe?
00:28:22.680 As little as possible.
00:28:23.920 Nobody does.
00:28:24.820 I mean,
00:28:25.500 I'm not sure
00:28:26.320 they have a viewer.
00:28:27.180 When I'm going
00:28:27.680 through the airport
00:28:28.320 with my little mask on,
00:28:30.080 then I see Morning Joe.
00:28:31.200 Well,
00:28:31.560 Morning Joe,
00:28:32.580 I saw actually
00:28:33.680 a clip on Twitter
00:28:34.460 of Mika saying,
00:28:37.780 look,
00:28:38.120 if Elon does this,
00:28:39.860 big tech,
00:28:40.840 they'll be able
00:28:41.720 to control
00:28:42.400 what people think.
00:28:44.180 That's our job.
00:28:45.980 And she literally,
00:28:47.380 like,
00:28:47.600 oops,
00:28:48.020 said the quiet part
00:28:48.980 out loud.
00:28:49.600 Do you know,
00:28:50.300 so there was a big fact check
00:28:52.320 of this clip
00:28:53.140 that was going around
00:28:54.060 and they said,
00:28:54.660 no,
00:28:54.840 this was manipulated.
00:28:56.380 Actually,
00:28:57.140 the clip is older.
00:28:58.640 It's referring to Donald Trump.
00:29:00.820 And they thought
00:29:01.760 this was a big dunk.
00:29:04.060 The same point holds.
00:29:05.680 She's saying
00:29:06.180 that she is supposed
00:29:06.920 to tell people
00:29:07.480 what to think.
00:29:08.440 And so what we're seeing here
00:29:09.800 is finally someone
00:29:11.240 stepping up and saying,
00:29:12.180 no,
00:29:12.560 we're going to crack
00:29:13.540 this monopoly
00:29:15.120 or oligopoly of power
00:29:16.380 that is censoring
00:29:17.480 half of the country,
00:29:18.700 which it deems deplorable
00:29:19.780 and irredeemable.
00:29:20.440 The corruption runs deep.
00:29:22.200 We're going to expose it.
00:29:23.580 We're going to air it out.
00:29:24.560 We're going to have
00:29:24.840 a free exchange of ideas.
00:29:26.000 Now,
00:29:26.960 speaking of a free exchange
00:29:28.200 of ideas,
00:29:29.260 I know we have lots
00:29:30.420 of brilliant,
00:29:32.520 insightful Alabama students
00:29:34.180 in this room.
00:29:35.020 Should we open up
00:29:35.980 to some Q&A?
00:29:36.980 Absolutely.
00:29:37.780 So let's bring out
00:29:38.520 our friend Liz Wheeler.
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00:29:56.100 Liz,
00:29:56.440 do we have any questions
00:29:57.220 from our Verdict Plus members?
00:29:59.240 We do.
00:29:59.880 We do.
00:30:00.380 We have questions
00:30:00.900 from Verdict Plus.
00:30:01.600 We're excited to hear
00:30:02.340 questions from anybody
00:30:03.660 in the audience.
00:30:04.480 If you are a leftist,
00:30:05.600 if you have a challenging question,
00:30:07.260 maybe a question that descents
00:30:08.440 from the viewpoints up here,
00:30:09.420 you can come to the front
00:30:10.360 of the line.
00:30:11.560 Are we ready?
00:30:12.580 I'm ready.
00:30:13.120 Let's go.
00:30:13.420 Let's take some questions.
00:30:14.100 Thank you all so much
00:30:16.440 for coming out.
00:30:17.480 I really appreciate it.
00:30:18.920 A lot of us are students
00:30:20.360 and some of us
00:30:21.300 are going to be graduating
00:30:22.120 and leaving here
00:30:23.040 in a couple weeks.
00:30:24.600 I was wondering,
00:30:25.760 going into a job,
00:30:27.340 how would you recommend
00:30:28.540 that we continue to fight
00:30:30.300 for what we believe in
00:30:31.140 and for conservative values
00:30:32.300 without running the risk
00:30:33.660 of losing our livelihoods?
00:30:35.260 Look, it's a great question
00:30:37.680 and it's a hard question
00:30:38.720 because the censorship regime
00:30:40.920 is not just big tech
00:30:42.220 and it's not just universities.
00:30:43.740 It's becoming more and more
00:30:45.260 in the corporate world as well.
00:30:47.920 What I would say
00:30:48.900 is be a happy warrior.
00:30:50.740 Speak with your friends
00:30:51.900 and colleagues,
00:30:52.700 not angry,
00:30:54.100 not in your face,
00:30:55.320 but just speak,
00:30:57.240 you know,
00:30:57.680 something like the mask mandate.
00:31:00.080 Just about everyone knows
00:31:01.720 how silly this is.
00:31:03.000 We've seen in COVID
00:31:06.280 arbitrary rules shut down,
00:31:09.340 schools shut down,
00:31:11.180 and most people in the quiet,
00:31:13.400 you know,
00:31:13.640 SNL did a skit recently
00:31:15.420 of a bunch of liberals
00:31:17.240 sitting around the table
00:31:18.260 going,
00:31:18.660 do masks work?
00:31:19.980 Oh, no, no, no,
00:31:20.340 I'm not allowed to say that.
00:31:22.180 And so what I would say
00:31:23.260 is just speak the truth,
00:31:27.220 but you don't have to be
00:31:28.440 in your face
00:31:29.280 and angry about it.
00:31:30.660 And that's powerful, Michael.
00:31:34.280 I think there's a real risk you run.
00:31:38.000 I agree with everything
00:31:38.700 you said, Senator.
00:31:39.920 There is a risk
00:31:41.120 of a certain
00:31:42.760 putting off your courage
00:31:45.100 until tomorrow.
00:31:46.280 So you often hear this
00:31:47.520 from students.
00:31:48.000 They say,
00:31:48.480 should I speak up in class?
00:31:50.680 Or should I keep my head down
00:31:52.180 and then later on
00:31:53.600 I'll speak up?
00:31:54.320 I'll voice my opinions.
00:31:56.100 When?
00:31:56.560 When you're getting a paycheck
00:31:57.520 and you have rent to pay?
00:31:58.940 Is that when you're going to speak?
00:31:59.800 Well, okay,
00:32:00.700 maybe I'll get my first job.
00:32:02.400 It's entry level, though.
00:32:03.520 Maybe when I get a promotion.
00:32:06.960 So when you're married
00:32:08.000 and you have kids
00:32:08.860 and you've got
00:32:09.340 an even higher salary,
00:32:10.460 that's when you're...
00:32:11.140 No.
00:32:11.880 Okay, you're right, Michael.
00:32:13.100 Maybe when I make partner,
00:32:15.040 when I make partner
00:32:16.060 and I've got my mortgage payment
00:32:17.640 and I've got to put my kids
00:32:18.480 through college
00:32:19.080 and I've got to do this,
00:32:20.140 that, and the other thing,
00:32:20.900 then I'm going to speak my mind.
00:32:22.520 No, you're not.
00:32:23.440 The incentives are only
00:32:24.360 working against you.
00:32:25.460 It's only going to get harder.
00:32:26.700 So the question is,
00:32:27.840 what is your integrity worth to you?
00:32:30.040 Virtue is a habit.
00:32:31.100 You've got to practice it,
00:32:32.060 just like vice is a habit.
00:32:33.520 So courage is a virtue.
00:32:35.100 It's the prerequisite
00:32:35.860 for all of the other virtues.
00:32:37.320 I'm totally with Senator Cruz.
00:32:38.900 You don't need to be a jerk about it.
00:32:40.400 You don't need to be flamboyant
00:32:41.740 shooting off fireworks
00:32:43.240 at the water cooler,
00:32:44.220 but you can stand your ground
00:32:45.460 and speak your mind.
00:32:46.420 If you're not going to do it today,
00:32:47.800 you're probably
00:32:48.700 just not going to do it.
00:32:49.740 Well, and let me underscore
00:32:51.400 something also,
00:32:52.460 which is if you look at the left,
00:32:55.060 what's turned corporate America
00:32:56.740 so hard left in recent years?
00:32:59.420 You know, I remember
00:32:59.920 about 10 years ago,
00:33:01.260 there was the whole
00:33:01.860 political correct movement
00:33:03.140 that started in campuses
00:33:04.800 10 to 20 years ago.
00:33:06.960 And at the time,
00:33:07.920 a lot of us kind of laughed at us
00:33:09.540 and said, this is silly,
00:33:10.620 but this is harmless.
00:33:11.720 When people graduate
00:33:13.000 and have to get jobs,
00:33:13.980 they'll put that silliness
00:33:14.820 behind them.
00:33:16.180 Well, what happened
00:33:16.960 is a lot of the leftists
00:33:18.520 who were 21 and 22,
00:33:20.100 they went and got jobs
00:33:21.460 and now they're 28 or 30 or 32
00:33:23.700 and they're the young,
00:33:25.680 woke army in corporations.
00:33:28.380 And the amazing thing is
00:33:29.820 the CEOs are terrified of them.
00:33:31.700 It's the most backwards thing
00:33:33.780 in the world,
00:33:35.420 the degree to which
00:33:36.960 the students who graduated
00:33:39.020 a decade now ago
00:33:40.900 are terrorizing corporate America.
00:33:43.800 And so what I would say
00:33:44.700 is just to underscore
00:33:45.960 what Michael said,
00:33:47.240 don't be silent,
00:33:50.240 but do it with a smile.
00:33:51.640 Yeah.
00:33:52.120 Yeah.
00:33:52.380 There's an element
00:33:53.000 of practicality to it as well
00:33:54.740 that requires some self-reflection.
00:33:57.460 If you know what your line is,
00:33:59.280 the line that you're willing to,
00:34:00.960 or the line that you're not
00:34:01.860 willing to cross,
00:34:02.740 meaning there might be
00:34:03.440 some liberal issue that,
00:34:04.400 you know,
00:34:04.580 you just can't stay quiet anymore.
00:34:07.080 If you have reflected
00:34:08.540 on that yourself
00:34:09.280 and you know what your line is
00:34:10.420 on various issues,
00:34:11.760 then you don't have to feel
00:34:12.580 that every day
00:34:13.480 you have to be a dissenter.
00:34:15.280 Every day you have
00:34:16.080 to be the agitator.
00:34:16.940 You know exactly
00:34:17.660 what the most important issues are
00:34:18.900 and you've sort of pre-planned,
00:34:20.660 well, if it's this issue
00:34:21.420 and it gets to this point,
00:34:22.200 this is when I'm going
00:34:22.640 to talk to my colleagues,
00:34:23.500 or this issue and this point,
00:34:25.200 I'm going to take it
00:34:26.040 up the corporate ladder.
00:34:27.080 And then it's a little bit
00:34:27.620 more organized
00:34:28.300 and a little bit
00:34:28.720 less emotional too.
00:34:32.140 Thanks.
00:34:32.460 Senator Cruz,
00:34:43.960 something that routinely
00:34:44.960 surprises me
00:34:45.800 about U.S. politicians,
00:34:47.060 especially conservatives,
00:34:48.660 is their support
00:34:49.600 for Guantanamo Bay.
00:34:51.480 Considering that
00:34:52.440 of the 37
00:34:53.380 who are still
00:34:54.140 imprisoned there,
00:34:55.460 the vast majority
00:34:56.480 have never been convicted
00:34:57.440 with anything
00:34:58.300 or charged.
00:34:59.020 and 17 are being held
00:35:01.100 indefinitely
00:35:01.700 with no plans
00:35:02.500 for transfer.
00:35:04.160 And these people
00:35:04.620 are routinely being denied
00:35:05.740 the regular due process
00:35:07.040 that we ordinarily
00:35:07.920 afford people.
00:35:09.780 Additionally,
00:35:10.600 some of the methods
00:35:12.080 of interrogation
00:35:12.840 include rectal feeding
00:35:13.920 and waterboarding
00:35:15.880 and in one case,
00:35:17.900 one prisoner claimed
00:35:18.560 that he was used
00:35:19.240 as a training dummy
00:35:20.260 by the CIA
00:35:21.280 and that he suffered
00:35:22.020 brain damage.
00:35:22.740 I guess my question
00:35:24.380 is how can America
00:35:25.920 claim certain ideals
00:35:27.900 while also maintaining
00:35:30.180 that it has to have
00:35:31.100 these facilities open?
00:35:33.360 Well,
00:35:34.020 because there are
00:35:35.580 enemies who hate us
00:35:36.540 and the U.S. Constitution
00:35:39.540 applies to Americans
00:35:41.280 in America.
00:35:42.540 It doesn't apply
00:35:43.560 to terrorists,
00:35:45.400 to enemy terrorists
00:35:46.340 in foreign countries
00:35:47.300 that are trying
00:35:47.780 to kill us.
00:35:48.380 On September 11, 2001,
00:35:57.680 I still remember
00:35:58.500 where I was.
00:35:59.100 I was in Washington, D.C.
00:36:01.220 We lived less than a mile
00:36:03.280 from the Pentagon.
00:36:04.140 My wife Heidi
00:36:04.800 was working
00:36:05.260 at the White House
00:36:05.840 at the time.
00:36:07.360 We lost a very good
00:36:08.820 friend of ours
00:36:09.460 who was in the plane
00:36:10.520 that flew into the Pentagon
00:36:11.680 in the most horrific
00:36:14.460 act of terrorism
00:36:15.700 in United States history.
00:36:18.380 That act of warfare
00:36:21.480 came from an ideology,
00:36:24.000 radical Islamic terrorism
00:36:26.020 that wages jihad
00:36:27.420 in America.
00:36:28.140 And we went
00:36:28.740 and waged war
00:36:29.600 and you say,
00:36:30.700 well, gosh,
00:36:31.140 we didn't provide
00:36:32.160 due process to them.
00:36:33.360 Well, you know what?
00:36:34.460 When we send
00:36:35.260 a fighter jet
00:36:36.100 over to Afghanistan
00:36:37.180 and we identify
00:36:38.420 people who are
00:36:40.520 Al-Qaeda
00:36:41.400 or in later manifestations,
00:36:43.740 ISIS,
00:36:44.320 Al-Nusra,
00:36:45.340 there are a whole series
00:36:46.160 of radical Islamic
00:36:47.120 terrorist organizations,
00:36:48.380 and we fire missiles
00:36:49.360 at them and blow them up,
00:36:50.800 they don't get
00:36:51.240 due process either.
00:36:52.480 Warfare
00:36:52.920 is
00:36:54.940 a dangerous process.
00:36:58.040 If you look
00:36:58.480 at Guantanamo Bay,
00:36:59.480 it is explicitly
00:37:00.300 outside of U.S. jurisdiction.
00:37:02.400 The reason
00:37:02.860 we've housed them there
00:37:04.480 is so that the federal courts
00:37:05.880 would not
00:37:06.620 place them
00:37:07.620 under their scrutiny.
00:37:08.400 Now, that being said,
00:37:09.600 the federal courts
00:37:10.220 have asserted
00:37:10.820 considerable authority
00:37:11.880 over Guantanamo
00:37:13.280 even though
00:37:14.000 it was a foreign jurisdiction.
00:37:15.380 And you noted
00:37:16.380 enhanced interrogation.
00:37:19.360 I will say
00:37:20.300 it is U.S. law.
00:37:22.220 It is U.S. policy
00:37:23.620 now under both
00:37:24.580 Republicans
00:37:25.040 and Democrats
00:37:25.860 that we do not
00:37:26.520 torture people.
00:37:28.020 And so the example
00:37:28.900 you gave
00:37:29.540 of using that individual
00:37:31.300 as a dummy
00:37:32.780 and beating him,
00:37:34.340 if that happened,
00:37:35.260 that was a violation
00:37:36.080 of law
00:37:36.640 and anyone who did so
00:37:37.640 would be prosecuted.
00:37:39.240 We don't torture them,
00:37:40.680 but we do keep them
00:37:42.540 incapacitated.
00:37:44.520 The people who are there
00:37:45.760 are the very worst
00:37:48.060 of the worst.
00:37:48.900 And if you look
00:37:49.520 at the history
00:37:50.260 of releasing terrorists,
00:37:53.440 Barack Obama
00:37:54.300 released a significant
00:37:55.840 number of terrorists
00:37:56.780 from Guantanamo Bay.
00:37:59.560 Joe Biden
00:38:00.560 released a significant
00:38:03.000 number of terrorists,
00:38:04.180 particularly from Afghanistan.
00:38:05.920 And we release them
00:38:07.100 and they turn around
00:38:08.120 and a large percentage
00:38:09.380 of them come back
00:38:10.280 and attack us again.
00:38:11.740 You remember the guy
00:38:12.540 who blew up
00:38:13.900 and murdered
00:38:14.400 13 servicemen
00:38:16.020 and women
00:38:16.520 in Afghanistan?
00:38:19.140 That man had been
00:38:20.420 imprisoned at Bagram
00:38:21.880 and when Biden
00:38:23.420 abandoned the Bagram
00:38:24.680 airfield,
00:38:25.420 he was released
00:38:26.180 and turned around
00:38:27.140 and murdered
00:38:28.080 13 servicemen
00:38:29.180 and women.
00:38:29.720 So why shouldn't
00:38:30.940 we close Guantanamo Bay?
00:38:32.880 Because I don't want
00:38:33.980 terrorists to murder
00:38:35.240 Americans.
00:38:35.960 You know,
00:38:36.180 just to add,
00:38:36.900 I agree with that
00:38:37.900 and to add
00:38:38.540 a little bit of context,
00:38:39.580 you mentioned
00:38:40.060 waterboarding
00:38:40.720 as an example
00:38:41.880 of torture.
00:38:43.720 Waterboarding
00:38:44.160 is not torture.
00:38:45.440 We waterboard
00:38:46.200 our own troops
00:38:47.040 in training,
00:38:47.880 so unless we're
00:38:48.780 torturing our own troops,
00:38:49.700 I guess we'll have
00:38:50.120 a lot of lawsuits
00:38:50.700 on our hands
00:38:51.220 in that case.
00:38:51.880 I don't think
00:38:52.440 that quite counts.
00:38:53.980 But furthermore,
00:38:54.860 one of the arguments
00:38:55.900 against enhanced interrogation
00:38:57.480 or even against torture
00:38:58.820 is that we have agreed
00:39:00.600 in international law
00:39:01.640 to afford certain
00:39:03.040 courtesies
00:39:03.800 to enemy combatants
00:39:05.220 who abide
00:39:05.780 by the laws of war.
00:39:07.160 Now some people
00:39:08.720 have argued
00:39:09.180 that we should
00:39:09.860 extend these courtesies
00:39:11.300 even to terrorists.
00:39:12.940 This is a very,
00:39:13.900 very bad idea.
00:39:15.140 The reason that we
00:39:15.820 extend these courtesies
00:39:16.900 to certain enemy combatants
00:39:18.620 is so that we can
00:39:19.680 protect civilians.
00:39:21.020 So we say
00:39:21.620 you need to wear a uniform,
00:39:22.540 you need to not
00:39:23.140 target civilians
00:39:24.100 to achieve your
00:39:25.080 political goals.
00:39:26.020 So if we extend
00:39:26.780 those same courtesies
00:39:27.740 to terrorists
00:39:28.560 who very directly
00:39:30.000 are targeting civilians
00:39:31.300 to achieve political goals,
00:39:32.720 we undermine
00:39:33.500 the entire purpose
00:39:34.680 of those protections
00:39:35.520 in the first place.
00:39:36.860 So to borrow a line
00:39:38.200 from my friend
00:39:38.840 Andrew Clavin,
00:39:39.800 I think that
00:39:40.540 waterboarding jihadis
00:39:41.780 should be an Olympic sport
00:39:43.020 and I don't think
00:39:43.620 there's anything wrong
00:39:44.300 with it.
00:39:49.160 But I will say
00:39:50.420 notwithstanding
00:39:51.360 your and Andrew Clavin's view,
00:39:53.700 it is currently
00:39:54.360 against U.S. law
00:39:55.460 so we're not doing so right now.
00:39:59.680 Sorry,
00:40:00.260 just with all due respect,
00:40:02.060 my question
00:40:02.900 wasn't entirely
00:40:03.800 about releasing prisoners.
00:40:05.140 I know you brought that up.
00:40:06.600 It also,
00:40:07.700 it was mostly
00:40:09.940 to address
00:40:10.560 the waterboarding thing.
00:40:11.640 We know that
00:40:12.300 the studies suggest
00:40:13.320 that torture doesn't work.
00:40:14.880 I would just like
00:40:15.260 to clarify
00:40:15.740 or enhance interrogation,
00:40:18.200 sorry.
00:40:18.840 My question was not about
00:40:20.300 obviously releasing
00:40:21.140 these people.
00:40:21.800 That's a horrible consequence
00:40:22.880 what happened,
00:40:23.780 obviously.
00:40:25.120 It was mostly
00:40:26.080 about humane treatment.
00:40:28.240 So listen,
00:40:28.740 and I agree
00:40:29.240 we should provide
00:40:30.020 humane treatment
00:40:30.680 and it's one of the things
00:40:31.600 America does
00:40:32.420 that is different.
00:40:33.020 It's why U.S. law
00:40:34.200 prohibits torture.
00:40:35.960 And I'm glad you say
00:40:37.740 that you agree
00:40:38.740 that these folks
00:40:39.560 shouldn't be released.
00:40:40.600 I can tell you
00:40:41.380 over the last decade
00:40:42.540 I have repeatedly
00:40:44.240 forced votes
00:40:45.380 on whether or not
00:40:46.300 we should release people
00:40:47.400 out of Guantanamo
00:40:48.300 and Joe Biden
00:40:49.840 and the Democrats
00:40:50.540 are pressing to do so.
00:40:52.500 When we have votes
00:40:53.440 on this,
00:40:54.400 they vote party line.
00:40:56.080 I think we are likely
00:40:59.820 to see an effort
00:41:00.700 from the Biden administration
00:41:01.740 to shut Guantanamo Bay down
00:41:03.700 and if that happens
00:41:05.420 or not to shut
00:41:06.720 the base down
00:41:07.360 but to release
00:41:08.060 the prisoners
00:41:08.600 to shut the detention
00:41:09.420 facility down,
00:41:10.600 if that happens,
00:41:11.920 I believe the result
00:41:13.000 of that will be
00:41:13.700 that Americans
00:41:14.240 will die
00:41:15.660 because those terrorists
00:41:17.080 will go back
00:41:17.800 and commit more
00:41:18.640 terrorist attacks
00:41:19.420 against us.
00:41:20.580 Thank you for your question.
00:41:22.100 Thank you.
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00:41:49.200 So our question tonight
00:41:50.580 is from Cracklin.
00:41:51.660 This is a good question
00:41:52.840 I think.
00:41:53.440 Cracklin says
00:41:53.820 Do you think
00:41:54.320 it's appropriate
00:41:54.960 to call someone
00:41:56.140 a groomer
00:41:56.760 if they're trying
00:41:57.280 to teach sexual material
00:41:58.520 to young children?
00:42:03.540 I think as a general matter
00:42:05.120 people ought to
00:42:05.800 ratchet their rhetoric down.
00:42:07.860 Listen,
00:42:08.460 there are predators.
00:42:09.520 There are predators
00:42:10.060 that target kids.
00:42:11.700 There are predators
00:42:12.260 who commit horrific acts.
00:42:16.500 I spent five and a half years
00:42:18.260 as Solicitor General
00:42:19.140 of Texas.
00:42:19.760 I handled a lot of cases
00:42:21.120 of people who committed
00:42:22.900 horrific, horrific crimes
00:42:25.400 on little kids.
00:42:27.100 There is also an effort
00:42:28.860 from the left
00:42:29.700 to sexualize everything,
00:42:31.700 all of the uproar
00:42:32.900 over the Florida bill.
00:42:34.360 The Florida bill
00:42:35.220 says you shouldn't be
00:42:36.660 teaching kids pre-K
00:42:38.260 through third grade
00:42:39.500 about sex.
00:42:41.760 Now, I think that is
00:42:43.680 obviously right.
00:42:45.300 A kid in pre-K
00:42:46.300 is four years old.
00:42:47.580 I'm not interested
00:42:48.660 in a kid in pre-K
00:42:49.720 learning about gay sex,
00:42:51.600 straight sex,
00:42:52.340 or anything else.
00:42:53.240 I want them to learn
00:42:54.280 about playing with blocks
00:42:56.240 and how to count.
00:42:58.660 And so, listen,
00:43:00.620 some of the language
00:43:01.520 saying, all right,
00:43:02.600 anyone trying to push
00:43:04.100 their ideology
00:43:04.960 as a groomer,
00:43:05.880 I think that's probably,
00:43:07.560 that rhetoric
00:43:09.680 escalates things a bit.
00:43:11.680 Now, are there people
00:43:13.380 who are groomers
00:43:14.160 who are actually pedophiles
00:43:15.980 targeting kids?
00:43:17.020 Yes.
00:43:17.920 But I wouldn't use
00:43:19.280 that accusation lightly
00:43:21.380 because I would reserve it
00:43:22.720 for people
00:43:23.300 who actually have
00:43:25.060 direct ill intent
00:43:26.320 targeted at kids.
00:43:27.960 So, basically,
00:43:29.060 if the result
00:43:30.540 of the indoctrination
00:43:32.200 in these sexual materials
00:43:34.100 is political gratification
00:43:35.380 versus sexual gratification,
00:43:36.880 then you would make
00:43:38.440 that distinction
00:43:39.040 with the term?
00:43:39.760 Yeah, look,
00:43:40.360 that's a good point,
00:43:41.900 and I like the way
00:43:42.920 you phrased it.
00:43:43.760 I think there are people
00:43:45.060 who are misguided
00:43:46.280 trying to drive,
00:43:48.420 you know,
00:43:48.720 Disney stepping in
00:43:49.960 saying, you know,
00:43:51.080 in every episode now
00:43:52.920 they're going to have,
00:43:53.920 you know,
00:43:54.740 Mickey and Pluto
00:43:56.760 going at it.
00:43:58.000 Like, really?
00:44:00.200 Thank you for that image,
00:44:01.480 Senator.
00:44:02.120 But it's just like,
00:44:03.260 come on, guys.
00:44:04.520 Like, these are kids,
00:44:06.460 and, you know,
00:44:07.720 you could always shift
00:44:09.240 to Cinemax
00:44:09.980 if you want that.
00:44:10.820 Like, why do you have,
00:44:13.240 it used to be,
00:44:14.680 look, I'm a dad.
00:44:15.820 Like, you used to be able
00:44:16.540 to put your kids
00:44:17.320 on the Disney Channel
00:44:18.300 and be like,
00:44:19.040 all right,
00:44:19.440 something innocuous
00:44:20.580 will happen,
00:44:21.720 and you've got these,
00:44:23.440 like, you know,
00:44:25.340 I don't know,
00:44:25.940 woke lefties
00:44:27.040 that want to make it
00:44:28.020 their political agenda.
00:44:29.220 I just wish they'd leave
00:44:30.180 their political agenda
00:44:31.160 out of it.
00:44:32.960 That being said,
00:44:34.160 so I disagree with
00:44:35.000 their political agenda.
00:44:35.880 I think it's wrong,
00:44:36.560 and I think it's harmful.
00:44:37.560 But I do think
00:44:39.260 it is different
00:44:40.180 from actual sexual predators
00:44:42.980 that are trying
00:44:43.600 to violate children,
00:44:44.660 so I wouldn't,
00:44:45.380 I wouldn't conflate the two.
00:44:47.140 I would say,
00:44:48.300 I disagree with both of them,
00:44:49.600 but the latter
00:44:50.200 is a serious criminal offense
00:44:51.780 that you should go to jail
00:44:52.620 for a long, long time.
00:44:54.060 The former is just misguided
00:44:55.820 and you should be made fun of.
00:44:57.060 And what's interesting
00:44:57.820 is that,
00:44:58.540 that, yeah,
00:44:59.260 well, yes, of course.
00:45:00.280 What's interesting
00:45:01.020 is that parents
00:45:02.020 on both sides of the aisle
00:45:03.120 feel strongly about this issue.
00:45:04.800 Yeah.
00:45:04.900 It's not something
00:45:05.420 that it's the right
00:45:06.060 versus the left,
00:45:06.660 Republicans versus Democrats.
00:45:08.340 It's something where,
00:45:09.420 and the surveys from Florida
00:45:10.780 show this,
00:45:11.720 that it's really parents
00:45:13.760 versus this ideology.
00:45:15.160 They feel that their children
00:45:16.160 are being put
00:45:17.380 in a pipeline
00:45:18.740 with this agenda,
00:45:20.100 that it's not just exposure
00:45:21.180 to a principle
00:45:22.240 or an ideology
00:45:23.560 in an academic sense
00:45:25.600 that they don't want
00:45:26.540 their children to know about,
00:45:27.440 that they feel
00:45:27.800 that their children
00:45:28.220 are being taught
00:45:28.960 that something is right
00:45:31.500 when objectively
00:45:32.360 that thing is not right.
00:45:34.420 And it's an interesting
00:45:35.440 cultural battle
00:45:36.060 in our nation.
00:45:36.660 And there's an age
00:45:37.940 and stage question.
00:45:39.840 Yeah.
00:45:39.980 Four-year-olds
00:45:40.920 are different
00:45:41.560 from 19-year-olds.
00:45:43.020 Vivek Ramaswamy,
00:45:44.420 our friend,
00:45:45.340 has dubbed the bill
00:45:47.020 which the libs call
00:45:48.160 the don't say gay bell.
00:45:49.480 He says it's really
00:45:50.320 just the wait till eight bill.
00:45:52.340 You know,
00:45:52.780 after eight,
00:45:53.600 then I guess
00:45:54.200 all bets are off.
00:45:55.260 It really was.
00:45:56.300 Fourth grade.
00:45:57.140 Hey,
00:45:57.360 knock yourself out.
00:45:58.420 You can get into
00:45:58.960 all this stuff
00:45:59.720 in fourth grade.
00:46:00.520 That seems a little
00:46:01.320 early to me anyway,
00:46:02.180 but it is a pretty modest,
00:46:05.360 like,
00:46:05.580 can we give kids
00:46:06.820 just a little bit
00:46:08.540 of quiet
00:46:08.960 until third grade?
00:46:11.120 All right.
00:46:11.880 Well,
00:46:12.500 there's your answer.
00:46:14.400 And I want to get back to you.
00:46:15.120 You've been waiting
00:46:15.480 very patiently.
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00:46:21.920 We do this every week.
00:46:22.920 What's your name?
00:46:24.220 My name is Sam Williams.
00:46:25.920 So I'm a really big fan
00:46:27.140 of both of you guys.
00:46:28.200 I am conservative,
00:46:29.820 but I do disagree
00:46:31.200 with conservatives
00:46:31.820 on the issue
00:46:32.520 of school choice.
00:46:33.800 So my aunt,
00:46:35.200 who votes Republican,
00:46:36.460 she's a third grade teacher
00:46:37.360 up in Michigan,
00:46:38.020 and they implemented
00:46:38.640 school choice.
00:46:39.720 And according to her,
00:46:40.520 it was a complete disaster.
00:46:42.160 She was a teacher
00:46:42.760 at one of the best schools
00:46:43.580 in the area,
00:46:44.100 and once it was implemented,
00:46:45.340 there was a major
00:46:46.000 overcrowding issue.
00:46:47.620 Most of the kids
00:46:48.260 who came in
00:46:48.880 were horrible,
00:46:49.840 according to her,
00:46:50.580 and there was
00:46:51.220 a loss of community.
00:46:52.660 What are your thoughts
00:46:53.280 on the issue,
00:46:53.960 and are there any other
00:46:54.820 policies you advocate for
00:46:56.180 in regards to education?
00:46:58.180 So that's a very
00:46:59.500 interesting question.
00:47:00.380 I will say,
00:47:00.820 I don't know
00:47:01.440 the specific results
00:47:02.700 in Michigan,
00:47:03.460 and it may be
00:47:04.300 that when they implemented
00:47:05.840 it in Michigan,
00:47:06.520 they did it badly.
00:47:07.640 So your aunt's experience,
00:47:09.380 I don't doubt
00:47:10.260 that she underwent that.
00:47:12.260 I can tell you
00:47:13.000 on the issue
00:47:13.360 of school choice,
00:47:14.000 it's an issue
00:47:14.440 I've been involved in
00:47:15.720 25, 30 years,
00:47:17.980 and I think it is
00:47:19.360 the most important
00:47:21.660 education issue
00:47:22.760 and civil rights issue
00:47:23.760 we have in this country.
00:47:25.400 And let me explain why.
00:47:26.760 Look, school choice
00:47:27.620 is all about giving
00:47:28.920 low-income kids
00:47:30.980 the same ability
00:47:32.060 to choose
00:47:32.940 that rich and middle-class
00:47:34.460 kids have always had.
00:47:36.320 And I remember
00:47:38.200 20 years ago,
00:47:38.980 we'd have debates
00:47:39.600 about school choice,
00:47:40.540 and people would say,
00:47:41.420 well, if you give
00:47:42.880 low-income kids
00:47:43.800 the ability to get
00:47:44.540 scholarships,
00:47:45.220 the ability to get
00:47:45.920 out of failing schools,
00:47:47.080 the result will be
00:47:48.300 that it'll just destroy
00:47:49.500 the public schools.
00:47:51.540 That is a serious argument.
00:47:53.140 If that were, in fact,
00:47:54.220 correct, I would oppose
00:47:55.260 school choice.
00:47:56.080 I have no interest
00:47:57.560 in destroying
00:47:58.920 the school system
00:48:00.140 that provides
00:48:00.760 the vast majority
00:48:01.940 of education
00:48:02.600 to kids.
00:48:04.420 We now know, though,
00:48:05.860 because school choice
00:48:06.720 has been implemented
00:48:07.560 in over 30 jurisdictions
00:48:08.940 across the country,
00:48:10.300 the data disprove it.
00:48:12.020 That if you look at,
00:48:13.140 and what I would encourage you
00:48:14.300 is to spend some time
00:48:15.700 studying choice.
00:48:16.540 It may be the program
00:48:17.380 your aunt had experience
00:48:18.380 with was badly designed
00:48:20.080 and poorly implemented.
00:48:21.940 I can tell you
00:48:22.860 more broadly,
00:48:23.720 the data show
00:48:24.500 that when you have
00:48:25.100 choice programs,
00:48:26.820 number one,
00:48:27.600 the kids who exercise
00:48:28.500 choice,
00:48:29.080 who are in a failing school
00:48:30.200 and go to another school
00:48:31.880 to another option,
00:48:33.420 they have significantly
00:48:34.440 better test outcomes.
00:48:35.600 They have better
00:48:35.980 reading scores,
00:48:36.700 better math scores,
00:48:37.560 better graduation rates.
00:48:38.900 They get into college
00:48:39.840 at a much higher rate.
00:48:41.480 But number two,
00:48:42.560 and this is critically important,
00:48:44.020 the public school improves.
00:48:46.900 Competition is good.
00:48:48.100 Think about it
00:48:48.720 in every other respect.
00:48:53.360 Competition improves quality.
00:48:57.120 And so it may be
00:48:59.200 in the instance,
00:48:59.860 I don't know if Michigan
00:49:00.680 did a partial school
00:49:02.060 choice hybrid
00:49:02.800 where they may just
00:49:04.040 have allowed kids
00:49:04.940 in failing schools
00:49:05.820 to get into the top
00:49:07.740 public schools
00:49:08.720 without additional competition.
00:49:10.560 It may have been structured
00:49:11.980 so it was designed to fail.
00:49:14.000 That sometimes happens
00:49:16.220 but look,
00:49:17.480 I think we ought to
00:49:18.420 have an urgency
00:49:19.480 when it comes to kids
00:49:22.000 trapped
00:49:22.860 and not able
00:49:24.240 to get an education.
00:49:25.440 That we ought to
00:49:26.460 have an urgency
00:49:27.180 that these kids
00:49:28.920 now deserve
00:49:29.920 a better option
00:49:30.700 and I support
00:49:31.700 every option
00:49:32.820 we can get.
00:49:33.500 I'm sympathetic
00:49:34.340 to the view,
00:49:35.220 I agree with what
00:49:35.840 Senator Cruz just said,
00:49:36.740 I'm sympathetic
00:49:37.220 to the observations
00:49:39.160 of your aunt
00:49:40.060 and perhaps of you
00:49:41.180 as well.
00:49:41.640 I do think
00:49:42.640 the alternative
00:49:44.580 that I would prefer
00:49:45.600 even to school choice
00:49:46.740 which I support
00:49:47.480 is that conservatives
00:49:49.000 just take back
00:49:50.400 the public schools
00:49:51.220 from the libs
00:49:51.920 and kick all the crazy
00:49:53.200 racial and sexual
00:49:54.140 theories out
00:49:54.700 and raise the standards
00:49:55.800 and do a lot better.
00:49:56.740 I would love to be able
00:49:57.900 to wield that kind
00:49:58.840 of political power.
00:49:59.860 You're seeing it
00:50:00.420 in a handful of states
00:50:01.500 but it is worth
00:50:02.620 pointing out
00:50:03.300 that public education
00:50:04.820 in America
00:50:05.560 was from the beginning
00:50:07.720 a leftist endeavor.
00:50:09.500 this is not a bug
00:50:11.920 of the system
00:50:12.520 it's actually a feature
00:50:13.560 going back
00:50:14.400 not just 20 years
00:50:15.480 but going back
00:50:16.300 to John Dewey
00:50:17.020 going back
00:50:17.520 to Horace Mann
00:50:18.360 that this has been
00:50:19.360 in there
00:50:19.740 from the very beginning
00:50:20.560 and so I just fear
00:50:21.320 as a practical matter
00:50:22.760 I don't think
00:50:23.680 we're going to reform
00:50:24.680 the public education system
00:50:26.040 merely by taking power
00:50:27.380 and changing the curricula
00:50:28.460 I think we need
00:50:29.300 a structural change
00:50:30.720 as well
00:50:31.140 which school choice
00:50:32.260 has provided
00:50:32.860 which the homeschool
00:50:34.020 movement has provided
00:50:34.980 which parochial schools
00:50:36.060 have always provided
00:50:37.180 and so simply
00:50:39.240 as a practical matter
00:50:40.480 living in the real world
00:50:41.560 in 2022
00:50:42.140 I think that that
00:50:43.380 is our only hope
00:50:44.240 the alternative
00:50:45.000 is your five-year-old
00:50:46.600 being indoctrinated
00:50:47.520 into transgenderism
00:50:48.700 and critical race theory
00:50:49.620 and I don't think
00:50:50.180 any of us wants that
00:50:51.080 and I think too
00:50:52.340 that this idea
00:50:53.640 and this is building
00:50:54.140 on what Michael says
00:50:54.960 if conservatives
00:50:56.040 are going to retake
00:50:57.720 the public school system
00:50:58.900 the only way to do that
00:51:00.600 is through school choice
00:51:01.740 because it's not just
00:51:02.700 a matter of children
00:51:03.880 being caught
00:51:04.620 in a zip code
00:51:05.700 with a failing school
00:51:07.460 it's also a way
00:51:08.120 to ideologically
00:51:09.200 hold each and every
00:51:10.700 individual school
00:51:11.620 and school district
00:51:12.400 accountable
00:51:12.800 if enough parents
00:51:13.820 can go to their
00:51:14.680 school district
00:51:15.220 or their principal
00:51:15.880 and say listen
00:51:16.360 I'm pulling my child
00:51:17.100 out of this school
00:51:17.800 because you are teaching
00:51:18.840 critical race theory
00:51:19.700 or queer theory
00:51:20.340 and not only is my child
00:51:21.640 leaving the school
00:51:22.400 so is my money
00:51:23.260 if enough parents do that
00:51:24.420 then the school
00:51:25.200 has a choice
00:51:25.880 oh are we going
00:51:26.440 to adjust our curriculum
00:51:27.420 or are we going
00:51:28.480 to become a failing school
00:51:29.780 are we going
00:51:30.120 to become obsolete
00:51:30.940 so it's not just
00:51:31.940 a matter of increasing
00:51:33.300 educational outcomes
00:51:34.680 which is great
00:51:35.680 it's also how
00:51:36.820 conservatives can
00:51:37.580 rebalance the public
00:51:38.480 school system
00:51:39.180 hello
00:51:52.420 my name is Nick
00:51:53.680 and my question
00:51:54.460 is back to the beginning
00:51:55.780 you talked about
00:51:56.500 the mask mandate
00:51:57.280 and the potential
00:51:59.000 that the leftists
00:52:00.060 were trying to get
00:52:00.800 people who were thrown
00:52:01.620 off the planes
00:52:02.560 for not wearing the mask
00:52:03.500 added to a no fly list
00:52:05.220 and that that was
00:52:06.000 something reserved
00:52:06.600 for terrorists
00:52:07.300 and you yourself
00:52:09.100 referred to the
00:52:10.300 January 6 protesters
00:52:11.640 as terrorists
00:52:12.800 and so I'm wondering
00:52:13.900 if you could elaborate
00:52:14.740 a little bit
00:52:15.280 on where the first
00:52:16.480 amendment right
00:52:17.060 to not wear a mask
00:52:18.200 or to demonstrate
00:52:19.080 becomes the
00:52:19.960 you're now a terrorist
00:52:21.020 and can't get on
00:52:21.560 an airplane
00:52:21.980 and if there is any
00:52:24.040 place in American society
00:52:26.560 for people
00:52:28.260 American citizens
00:52:29.220 who have not been
00:52:30.160 convicted of any crime
00:52:31.260 to have been put
00:52:32.100 onto the no fly list
00:52:33.120 so it's a great question
00:52:35.200 and the simple answer
00:52:37.260 the divide is
00:52:38.800 those who commit
00:52:39.460 acts of violence
00:52:40.440 violate the criminal laws
00:52:42.800 and no one has a right
00:52:43.720 to commit an act
00:52:44.400 of violence
00:52:44.960 those who engage
00:52:46.420 in peaceful protests
00:52:47.620 have a right to do so
00:52:49.400 regardless of their
00:52:50.340 politics
00:52:50.940 so what I said
00:52:51.700 about January 6th
00:52:52.920 I was referring
00:52:53.940 to the very limited
00:52:55.020 number of violent
00:52:56.500 individuals who
00:52:57.380 physically assaulted
00:52:58.460 police officers
00:52:59.300 and if you assault
00:53:00.060 a police officer
00:53:00.900 I think you ought
00:53:02.460 to be prosecuted
00:53:03.260 you ought to go
00:53:03.640 to jail for a long time
00:53:05.140 that is very very
00:53:06.960 different
00:53:07.420 from the tens
00:53:09.380 of thousands
00:53:10.160 of peaceful protesters
00:53:11.380 that were there
00:53:12.080 on January 6th
00:53:13.220 that were speaking out
00:53:14.460 that were singing
00:53:15.040 God bless America
00:53:16.040 that were standing
00:53:16.760 with President Trump
00:53:17.740 they were not
00:53:18.920 remotely terrorists
00:53:19.940 and one of the things
00:53:20.840 that is maddening
00:53:22.040 is watching Democrats
00:53:23.900 watching the corporate
00:53:25.100 media
00:53:25.600 try to use
00:53:27.000 the criminal conduct
00:53:28.140 of a handful
00:53:29.000 of people
00:53:29.480 who engage
00:53:30.040 in acts of violence
00:53:31.060 to smear
00:53:32.820 the peaceful
00:53:34.160 First Amendment
00:53:34.900 activity
00:53:35.500 of tens of thousands
00:53:36.600 of people
00:53:37.060 in Washington D.C.
00:53:38.360 on January 6th
00:53:39.860 and of millions
00:53:40.500 of people
00:53:41.020 across the country
00:53:41.840 and you know
00:53:43.280 we see this
00:53:44.240 incredible hypocrisy
00:53:45.520 because
00:53:46.580 in the entire
00:53:48.260 preceding year
00:53:49.220 2020
00:53:49.680 we saw riots
00:53:51.820 across the country
00:53:52.760 Antifa
00:53:53.280 and Black Lives
00:53:54.080 Riot
00:53:54.480 Black Lives Matter
00:53:55.760 riots across the country
00:53:57.240 police cars
00:53:58.600 firebombed
00:53:59.440 stores looted
00:54:00.480 people assaulted
00:54:01.480 and we saw
00:54:03.100 the left
00:54:03.820 excusing
00:54:05.720 violent criminals
00:54:07.980 in fact
00:54:08.440 going so far
00:54:09.240 Kamala Harris
00:54:09.940 raised bail money
00:54:11.400 to bail out
00:54:13.360 the violent rioters
00:54:15.020 who were committing
00:54:15.660 acts of violence
00:54:16.760 in my view
00:54:17.440 there is a simple
00:54:18.920 dividing line
00:54:19.940 if you hurt
00:54:21.180 someone else
00:54:21.900 if you commit
00:54:22.480 an act of violence
00:54:23.460 you ought to be
00:54:24.360 prosecuted
00:54:25.140 if you're engaged
00:54:26.600 in speech
00:54:27.340 whether you and I
00:54:28.560 agree with them
00:54:29.320 or you and I
00:54:30.100 disagree with them
00:54:31.300 you have a right
00:54:32.540 to engage
00:54:33.360 in speech
00:54:34.480 protected by
00:54:35.500 the First Amendment
00:54:36.140 I agree with you
00:54:41.920 in that regard
00:54:42.680 but
00:54:43.200 the legal definition
00:54:44.820 of terrorism
00:54:45.580 assaulting a police
00:54:46.540 officer
00:54:46.880 is not terrorism
00:54:47.980 being convicted
00:54:48.800 of assault
00:54:49.680 does not put you
00:54:50.540 on the no fly list
00:54:51.720 there are January 6th
00:54:53.120 protesters
00:54:53.580 who have been
00:54:53.960 convicted of nothing
00:54:54.840 much less
00:54:55.780 not terrorism
00:54:56.700 and they are
00:54:57.840 nonetheless
00:54:58.220 on the no fly list
00:54:59.600 well look
00:55:00.720 I am very concerned
00:55:02.560 about this administration
00:55:04.080 abusing the no fly list
00:55:06.200 and abusing terrorism
00:55:08.540 you look at the individuals
00:55:09.900 that have been charged
00:55:10.900 I have repeatedly raised
00:55:12.680 with the Biden administration
00:55:14.080 trying to get
00:55:16.040 the Justice Department
00:55:17.240 to answer questions
00:55:18.180 about who is being charged
00:55:20.080 what are they being charged with
00:55:21.600 what are their conditions
00:55:22.640 are they in solitary confinement
00:55:24.960 how long have they been
00:55:25.940 in solitary confinement
00:55:27.180 how does that punishment
00:55:28.760 compare
00:55:29.460 to other similarly
00:55:30.960 situated
00:55:31.700 defendants
00:55:32.720 if you look at
00:55:33.660 for example
00:55:34.360 and I've
00:55:35.160 joined with other senators
00:55:37.180 writing to the Department
00:55:38.380 of Justice
00:55:38.880 I've asked the Department
00:55:40.000 of Justice
00:55:40.440 I've asked the FBI
00:55:41.620 these questions
00:55:43.140 what you've got
00:55:44.600 from this administration
00:55:46.380 is they just
00:55:47.520 utterly stiff arm Congress
00:55:49.540 they refuse
00:55:50.320 to answer those questions
00:55:51.980 so when I write
00:55:52.760 the Attorney General
00:55:53.680 he doesn't respond
00:55:55.160 when I ask them
00:55:56.100 at public hearings
00:55:57.000 he doesn't respond
00:55:58.360 and one of the challenges
00:55:59.920 the way our democratic process
00:56:02.380 works at this point
00:56:03.860 Republicans are in the minority
00:56:06.060 in both houses of Congress
00:56:07.340 which means
00:56:08.120 we can raise issues
00:56:10.060 but we don't have the ability
00:56:11.180 to convene hearings
00:56:12.100 without a majority
00:56:13.520 we don't have the ability
00:56:15.000 to pass legislation
00:56:16.220 right now
00:56:16.980 but I think
00:56:18.320 the abuse of power
00:56:19.760 of this administration
00:56:20.660 I agree with you
00:56:21.560 particularly
00:56:22.220 look right after
00:56:23.660 January 6
00:56:24.540 we saw
00:56:26.080 Washington D.C.
00:56:27.420 surrounded
00:56:27.980 with chain link fences
00:56:30.080 with razor wire
00:56:31.680 atop it
00:56:32.260 and it looked like Baghdad
00:56:33.380 and there were
00:56:34.660 thousands of
00:56:35.700 National Guardsmen
00:56:36.660 standing there
00:56:37.320 in camo uniforms
00:56:38.340 holding machine guns
00:56:40.140 with no bullets
00:56:41.720 they had no magazines
00:56:43.620 they were unloaded
00:56:44.560 machine guns
00:56:45.380 very quickly
00:56:47.460 the red state governors
00:56:48.540 realized
00:56:49.080 this is ridiculous
00:56:49.980 this is not merited
00:56:51.220 by any actual
00:56:52.360 public safety
00:56:53.320 purpose
00:56:54.520 the red state governors
00:56:55.580 brought the Guardsmen
00:56:56.440 home
00:56:56.860 so you had
00:56:57.960 for months
00:56:58.540 the only Guardsmen
00:56:59.380 left were from
00:57:00.060 Blue States
00:57:00.580 from New York
00:57:01.260 and New Jersey
00:57:01.840 and Rhode Island
00:57:02.440 I'd go talk to these guys
00:57:04.000 to a person
00:57:05.500 they were frustrated
00:57:06.680 out of their mind
00:57:07.460 because it was
00:57:07.940 obviously
00:57:08.900 political theater
00:57:10.440 it was not designed
00:57:11.780 to prevent
00:57:12.920 any real
00:57:13.980 public safety threat
00:57:15.260 it was designed
00:57:16.780 it was Joe Biden
00:57:18.400 and Nancy Pelosi
00:57:19.300 and Chuck Schumer
00:57:20.180 trying to say
00:57:22.380 every conservative
00:57:24.100 every Trump supporter
00:57:25.800 is a terrorist
00:57:26.680 and I'll tell you
00:57:27.540 I've heard multiple reports
00:57:29.380 of people
00:57:29.900 of people who were
00:57:30.740 in D.C.
00:57:32.300 peacefully protesting
00:57:33.500 and finding themselves
00:57:34.720 on the no-fly list
00:57:36.260 that is an absolute
00:57:37.620 abuse of power
00:57:39.180 the no-fly list
00:57:40.260 is reserved
00:57:41.340 for violent criminals
00:57:42.900 and people who pose
00:57:44.100 a very acute risk
00:57:45.940 to public safety
00:57:46.960 not to those
00:57:48.420 exercising their
00:57:49.460 First Amendment rights
00:57:50.460 applause
00:57:53.520 applause
00:57:54.520 applause
00:57:55.520 applause
00:57:56.520 applause
00:57:57.520 applause
00:57:58.520 applause
00:57:59.180 Alright, next question
00:58:00.520 Hi, what's your name?
00:58:03.320 Hi, I'm Melissa
00:58:04.160 First off, I just want to
00:58:05.500 thank you for coming
00:58:06.480 not just here
00:58:07.360 but to any college campus
00:58:08.520 to speak
00:58:08.980 because it can be
00:58:09.640 a very, very hostile
00:58:10.500 environment for conservatives
00:58:11.720 and that kind of leads
00:58:12.880 into my question
00:58:13.620 I'm more left-leaning
00:58:15.560 and I disagree
00:58:16.300 on plenty of your policies
00:58:17.600 but we also agree
00:58:18.400 on some other things
00:58:19.200 and I like to come
00:58:20.240 to conservative events
00:58:21.200 like this
00:58:21.720 and hear you guys' voices
00:58:22.860 but unfortunately
00:58:23.600 there's been a lot
00:58:24.480 of political censorship
00:58:25.860 a lot of shameful
00:58:27.020 attempts to keep people
00:58:28.940 from speaking
00:58:29.540 especially at college campuses
00:58:30.660 coming from my side
00:58:31.580 of the political spectrum
00:58:32.460 and so I'd like to
00:58:34.100 ask your advice
00:58:35.840 of how I could
00:58:36.640 encourage my peers
00:58:37.760 to come out
00:58:38.860 and actually see
00:58:39.620 conservatives
00:58:40.080 and hear you guys' voices
00:58:41.520 instead of relying
00:58:42.860 on a stereotype
00:58:43.800 perpetuated by the media
00:58:45.120 to argue against
00:58:45.920 drama instead
00:58:46.820 applause
00:58:49.300 applause
00:58:50.300 applause
00:58:52.300 applause
00:58:53.300 applause
00:58:54.300 applause
00:58:55.300 applause
00:58:56.300 So that is a
00:58:59.860 fabulous question
00:59:00.740 let me start
00:59:01.440 by just saying
00:59:01.980 thank you
00:59:02.460 thank you for being here
00:59:03.680 thank you for listening
00:59:04.680 thank you for being part
00:59:06.040 of a civil discussion
00:59:08.040 you're right
00:59:09.060 that doesn't happen
00:59:09.920 a lot on college campuses
00:59:11.260 and it needs to happen
00:59:13.040 and it is important
00:59:15.560 I think
00:59:16.400 to listen
00:59:16.980 not just to those
00:59:17.960 you agree with
00:59:18.620 but to those
00:59:19.060 you disagree with
00:59:19.940 in many ways
00:59:20.680 I think you can learn
00:59:21.960 more
00:59:22.400 listening to opposing views
00:59:24.880 rather than people
00:59:25.680 who are just reinforcing
00:59:26.780 what you already think
00:59:28.660 you know
00:59:28.980 I'm not sure
00:59:31.080 I know the answer
00:59:31.980 in terms of
00:59:33.000 if you look at the left
00:59:35.660 for a long time
00:59:36.720 the left
00:59:37.440 embraced free speech
00:59:39.460 you look at the free speech
00:59:41.840 one of the seminal
00:59:42.660 Supreme Court
00:59:43.400 decisions on free speech
00:59:45.480 involved a
00:59:46.560 anti-war protest
00:59:48.880 or a war jacket
00:59:50.080 that said
00:59:50.640 F the draft
00:59:51.500 and it didn't abbreviate F
00:59:52.840 and it went all the way
00:59:55.180 to the Supreme Court
00:59:56.020 and the Supreme Court
00:59:56.840 said
00:59:57.260 okay
00:59:57.580 that may be
00:59:58.300 one
00:59:58.720 you know
00:59:59.520 that may be
01:00:00.420 one man's obscenity
01:00:01.520 but the First Amendment
01:00:02.380 protects his right
01:00:03.560 to say that
01:00:04.300 I think that's
01:00:06.420 exactly right
01:00:07.300 there used to be
01:00:09.080 lions of the left
01:00:11.520 who embraced
01:00:12.280 free speech
01:00:13.120 it is becoming
01:00:15.240 more and more rare
01:00:17.060 and I do think
01:00:18.420 it's important
01:00:18.980 for your voice
01:00:19.920 and for other voices
01:00:21.760 on the political left
01:00:23.400 to say
01:00:23.860 look
01:00:24.220 if we
01:00:24.920 alright
01:00:26.000 I don't know
01:00:26.840 your economic views
01:00:27.920 but let's say
01:00:28.980 your economic views
01:00:30.160 are towards bigger government
01:00:31.380 or in the socialist direction
01:00:32.820 I don't know if you agree
01:00:33.520 with that or not
01:00:34.020 but hypothetically
01:00:35.220 let's say you do
01:00:36.100 if you believe
01:00:38.120 socialism is a good idea
01:00:39.640 and if you're actually
01:00:40.760 convinced
01:00:41.240 this is a better system
01:00:42.640 that helps people more
01:00:44.260 then
01:00:45.520 one ought to be
01:00:46.760 willing and eager
01:00:47.700 to have that conversation
01:00:49.120 not just with people
01:00:50.140 who agree with you
01:00:51.000 but people who disagree
01:00:52.420 with you
01:00:52.940 and look to the facts
01:00:54.000 of okay
01:00:54.560 what actually lifts
01:00:56.400 people out of poverty
01:00:57.380 what actually
01:00:58.240 helps people
01:00:59.440 achieve prosperity
01:01:00.480 and
01:01:00.880 I do think
01:01:04.000 so
01:01:07.280 I will say
01:01:08.700 one very encouraging sign
01:01:10.420 so I'm very glad
01:01:11.260 you're here
01:01:11.660 we were here
01:01:12.320 a week ago
01:01:13.280 at Michael's alma mater
01:01:15.120 at Yale
01:01:15.620 and it was striking
01:01:17.360 at Yale
01:01:17.760 look
01:01:18.000 Yale is a very
01:01:18.680 left wing campus
01:01:19.660 I'd say
01:01:21.060 somewhere between
01:01:21.800 a third to a half
01:01:22.960 of the students
01:01:23.700 leaned politically
01:01:25.300 to the left
01:01:25.980 not in the school
01:01:27.380 about 150%
01:01:28.620 in the school
01:01:29.080 lean left
01:01:29.520 but in the audience
01:01:30.860 that night
01:01:31.340 it was about
01:01:31.700 a third to half
01:01:32.860 and it was
01:01:33.500 so we were talking
01:01:34.280 about Justice
01:01:35.380 Ketanji Brown Jackson
01:01:36.520 and her confirmation
01:01:39.060 and when I mentioned
01:01:39.860 she was confirmed
01:01:40.580 as I said
01:01:41.060 about a third
01:01:41.700 to a half
01:01:42.180 of the crowd
01:01:42.720 began applauding
01:01:43.760 vigorously
01:01:44.680 and I actually
01:01:46.120 stepped back
01:01:46.680 I'm like
01:01:46.940 okay this is fantastic
01:01:48.300 this is fantastic
01:01:50.040 that y'all are here
01:01:51.160 you're listening
01:01:52.420 I'm not going to
01:01:53.120 presume that you're
01:01:54.020 necessarily persuaded
01:01:55.220 but to be in a
01:01:56.160 conversation
01:01:56.960 moves us
01:01:58.880 in a positive
01:01:59.520 direction
01:02:00.000 it was striking
01:02:00.640 afterwards
01:02:01.200 so Michael
01:02:02.400 and I went
01:02:03.220 with a friend
01:02:05.000 of Michael's
01:02:05.740 who is an
01:02:06.540 orthodox rabbi
01:02:07.480 on campus
01:02:08.200 and we went
01:02:09.560 and had some
01:02:10.740 scotch
01:02:11.740 and smoked cigars
01:02:12.660 a couple of Coca-Colas
01:02:13.600 late into the night
01:02:14.520 and it was
01:02:16.880 interesting
01:02:17.280 the rabbi's
01:02:17.940 comment
01:02:18.300 in that he said
01:02:19.200 he said
01:02:19.600 this was the
01:02:20.180 first time
01:02:21.040 in decades
01:02:22.040 that he had
01:02:23.380 seen that many
01:02:24.420 students at Yale
01:02:25.460 sit down
01:02:26.360 and have
01:02:26.960 a civil
01:02:27.840 positive
01:02:28.940 conversation
01:02:29.860 with conservative
01:02:30.700 ideas
01:02:31.360 and he thought
01:02:32.560 it was a really
01:02:33.080 important moment
01:02:33.900 for the campus
01:02:34.560 and I think
01:02:36.500 the more
01:02:37.100 we just
01:02:37.600 talk to each
01:02:38.420 other
01:02:38.660 the better
01:02:40.620 it is
01:02:41.140 one thing
01:02:41.600 I encourage
01:02:42.120 students to do
01:02:42.800 and it's
01:02:43.020 something I
01:02:43.360 encourage
01:02:43.680 high school
01:02:44.100 students
01:02:44.520 junior high
01:02:45.000 students
01:02:45.320 to do
01:02:45.800 pick a
01:02:47.980 podcast or
01:02:48.900 two on the
01:02:49.420 left
01:02:49.780 and a
01:02:50.680 podcast or
01:02:51.340 two on the
01:02:51.760 right
01:02:52.020 and listen
01:02:52.400 to them
01:02:52.680 look
01:02:52.840 obviously
01:02:53.180 I encourage
01:02:53.600 people
01:02:53.900 listen to
01:02:54.280 this
01:02:54.440 podcast
01:02:54.920 by the
01:02:56.880 way
01:02:57.000 listen to
01:02:57.380 this
01:02:57.540 podcast
01:02:57.940 but it's
01:03:00.320 the sort
01:03:00.760 of thing
01:03:01.140 as a
01:03:01.740 consumer
01:03:02.220 of news
01:03:02.940 what is
01:03:04.740 hard right
01:03:05.600 now
01:03:05.960 is there's
01:03:06.700 virtually
01:03:07.120 no
01:03:07.460 unbiased
01:03:08.060 news
01:03:08.440 and we
01:03:09.820 live in
01:03:10.380 such a
01:03:10.800 tribalized
01:03:11.440 world
01:03:11.740 that the
01:03:12.060 left
01:03:12.300 listens to
01:03:12.820 left wing
01:03:13.200 news
01:03:13.460 the right
01:03:13.820 listens to
01:03:14.300 right wing
01:03:14.720 news
01:03:15.120 we don't
01:03:15.920 have shared
01:03:16.400 facts
01:03:16.880 we don't
01:03:17.380 have
01:03:17.540 conversations
01:03:18.160 together
01:03:18.640 and at
01:03:20.140 least the
01:03:20.640 way I
01:03:21.040 try to
01:03:21.620 go through
01:03:22.060 that is I
01:03:22.500 try to
01:03:22.980 rather than
01:03:24.240 pretend any
01:03:24.980 source is
01:03:25.460 unbiased I
01:03:26.280 try to
01:03:26.880 listen to
01:03:27.780 and read
01:03:28.800 things that
01:03:29.400 are explicitly
01:03:29.960 on the left
01:03:30.640 and explicitly
01:03:31.180 on the right
01:03:32.000 and usually
01:03:33.340 the truth is
01:03:34.120 somewhere in
01:03:34.640 the middle
01:03:34.960 so what I
01:03:35.440 would say
01:03:35.900 is your
01:03:36.460 voice
01:03:37.060 engaged
01:03:38.000 on both
01:03:39.100 sides of
01:03:39.660 the aisle
01:03:40.200 hopefully
01:03:41.140 that becomes
01:03:41.680 contagious
01:03:42.100 I would
01:03:42.600 be curious
01:03:43.240 to just
01:03:44.180 to hear
01:03:44.600 your thoughts
01:03:45.460 on because
01:03:46.320 I think
01:03:46.760 your diagnosis
01:03:47.360 is obviously
01:03:48.020 right about
01:03:49.460 the left
01:03:50.020 censoring
01:03:50.740 conservatives
01:03:51.460 I don't
01:03:52.560 I almost
01:03:53.300 don't hear
01:03:53.700 any calls
01:03:54.260 by conservatives
01:03:54.980 to censor
01:03:55.820 the libs
01:03:56.320 probably there
01:03:56.840 just aren't
01:03:57.180 enough of
01:03:57.560 us
01:03:57.740 so so
01:03:59.120 why is
01:04:00.000 it what
01:04:00.380 what makes
01:04:01.340 you different
01:04:02.000 why are you
01:04:02.660 here why are
01:04:03.360 you interested
01:04:03.980 in even if you
01:04:05.220 disagree with
01:04:05.740 us in hearing
01:04:06.120 what we have
01:04:06.500 to say
01:04:06.840 well so many
01:04:07.660 of your fellow
01:04:08.260 left-wingers
01:04:08.900 or not
01:04:09.340 I mean I
01:04:10.100 would say
01:04:10.460 I'm not
01:04:11.260 really interested
01:04:11.960 in some big
01:04:12.880 tribe of people
01:04:14.100 I think we're
01:04:14.580 all individuals
01:04:15.240 and we all
01:04:15.980 have our
01:04:16.320 individual policy
01:04:17.520 beliefs on
01:04:18.160 separate issues
01:04:18.900 you know I
01:04:19.600 certainly agree
01:04:20.240 with you on
01:04:20.640 gun control
01:04:21.200 I'm a big
01:04:22.240 gun rights
01:04:22.720 advocate
01:04:23.040 I believe
01:04:24.240 everybody should
01:04:24.860 be able to
01:04:25.280 own a gun
01:04:25.620 if they want
01:04:26.260 to because
01:04:26.940 that's your
01:04:27.420 right to
01:04:27.740 protect yourself
01:04:28.420 and I think
01:04:33.360 having those
01:04:34.120 opinions that
01:04:34.940 kind of differ
01:04:35.680 from people who
01:04:36.420 may share my
01:04:36.960 opinion on
01:04:37.540 health care
01:04:38.040 for example
01:04:38.700 really kind of
01:04:40.160 puts into
01:04:40.500 perspective the
01:04:41.780 way that we
01:04:42.860 are treating
01:04:43.480 and I say we
01:04:44.440 but I don't
01:04:45.020 really generally
01:04:45.720 want to associate
01:04:46.400 myself with people
01:04:47.200 who try to
01:04:47.640 censor you guys
01:04:48.400 but the way
01:04:49.240 that leftists
01:04:50.760 try to treat
01:04:51.600 conservatives
01:04:52.520 and your
01:04:53.200 opinions
01:04:53.760 having that
01:04:54.820 kind of
01:04:55.260 experience
01:04:55.860 really lends
01:04:56.860 some perspective
01:04:57.520 to why we
01:04:58.200 should give you
01:04:58.680 guys way more
01:04:59.280 respect than
01:04:59.920 we actually do
01:05:00.580 well thank you
01:05:01.840 very much
01:05:02.320 thank you
01:05:02.720 that's a great
01:05:03.300 question
01:05:03.760 while we're
01:05:10.100 waiting for this
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01:05:27.940 what's your
01:05:29.200 name hi
01:05:29.500 thanks for
01:05:29.820 coming
01:05:30.040 I'm David
01:05:30.720 Bender
01:05:31.060 thanks for
01:05:32.080 being here
01:05:32.540 and so
01:05:33.960 as Michael
01:05:35.100 as a
01:05:36.100 fellow
01:05:36.560 conservative
01:05:37.080 catholic
01:05:37.640 I was curious
01:05:38.940 why so many
01:05:39.940 pro-life
01:05:40.800 conservatives
01:05:41.620 are pro
01:05:43.300 contraception
01:05:44.060 because it
01:05:44.480 seems that
01:05:44.960 contraception
01:05:47.200 kind of leads
01:05:47.780 to an idea
01:05:48.940 that children
01:05:49.480 are side
01:05:50.820 effects
01:05:51.180 or kind
01:05:51.960 of leads
01:05:52.180 to the idea
01:05:52.500 that you
01:05:52.860 don't have
01:05:53.380 to have
01:05:53.660 kids
01:05:54.040 and kind
01:05:55.380 of seems
01:05:55.660 to lead
01:05:56.140 to the idea
01:05:57.100 that if you
01:05:57.540 are pregnant
01:05:58.080 then you
01:05:58.860 can get
01:05:59.340 rid of
01:05:59.600 it with
01:05:59.880 an abortion
01:06:00.360 that's a
01:06:02.000 great point
01:06:02.640 I've heard
01:06:04.260 cynical people
01:06:05.140 say that
01:06:05.560 life is a
01:06:06.240 fatal
01:06:06.540 sexually
01:06:07.140 transmitted
01:06:07.780 disease
01:06:08.280 and
01:06:09.160 unfortunately
01:06:09.860 the way
01:06:10.620 that sexual
01:06:11.820 education
01:06:12.300 is taught
01:06:12.860 very often
01:06:13.700 we are
01:06:14.040 taught that
01:06:14.520 babies are
01:06:15.300 a kind
01:06:15.920 of disease
01:06:16.420 or a kind
01:06:16.880 of punishment
01:06:17.320 when in fact
01:06:17.880 babies are
01:06:19.080 the greatest
01:06:20.040 gift from
01:06:20.660 God that
01:06:21.500 you're going
01:06:21.920 to have
01:06:22.280 in this
01:06:22.540 physical
01:06:22.860 world
01:06:23.400 and it's
01:06:27.040 very sad
01:06:27.740 because a
01:06:28.500 lot of
01:06:28.900 people
01:06:29.320 will struggle
01:06:30.580 by the time
01:06:31.080 they wake
01:06:31.420 up to this
01:06:31.840 fact
01:06:32.140 they may
01:06:32.760 struggle
01:06:33.160 to conceive
01:06:33.760 because they're
01:06:34.540 older and
01:06:34.960 they've put
01:06:35.340 things off
01:06:35.920 just as a
01:06:36.660 personal note
01:06:37.860 I've got
01:06:38.480 one baby
01:06:39.160 he's 13
01:06:41.060 14 months
01:06:41.820 old
01:06:42.200 I wish I
01:06:43.340 knew the
01:06:43.580 precise number
01:06:44.120 my wife's
01:06:44.540 going to yell
01:06:44.860 at me
01:06:45.040 when I get
01:06:45.380 home
01:06:45.600 I guess
01:06:45.900 he'll be
01:06:46.880 13 months
01:06:47.480 old
01:06:47.660 and I have
01:06:49.540 another baby
01:06:50.020 on the way
01:06:50.460 and I'm
01:06:50.700 very excited
01:06:51.260 but the
01:06:51.580 first one
01:06:52.000 didn't happen
01:06:52.480 right away
01:06:52.880 I thought
01:06:53.780 you know
01:06:54.640 this is going
01:06:55.120 to be
01:06:55.320 two seconds
01:06:55.920 I've been
01:06:56.220 told my
01:06:56.520 whole life
01:06:56.920 if you look
01:06:57.380 at a girl
01:06:57.660 the wrong
01:06:57.980 way she's
01:06:58.360 going to
01:06:58.600 get pregnant
01:06:59.040 and it
01:07:00.400 didn't happen
01:07:01.100 I have a
01:07:01.700 number of
01:07:02.020 friends who
01:07:02.400 have put
01:07:02.640 this off
01:07:03.140 and now
01:07:03.600 they're really
01:07:03.980 struggling
01:07:04.400 and they're
01:07:04.700 really upset
01:07:05.200 and it's a
01:07:05.600 huge problem
01:07:06.680 that we
01:07:07.000 realize all
01:07:08.020 too late
01:07:08.560 to your
01:07:10.340 point on
01:07:10.840 why the
01:07:11.360 pro-life
01:07:11.740 movement
01:07:12.080 doesn't
01:07:12.460 focus on
01:07:13.060 it
01:07:13.200 I think
01:07:14.120 it doesn't
01:07:14.480 focus on
01:07:15.000 it because
01:07:15.580 of priorities
01:07:17.000 because political
01:07:17.920 action requires
01:07:18.920 you to
01:07:19.280 prioritize certain
01:07:20.220 things
01:07:20.600 and on a
01:07:21.460 question such
01:07:22.240 as contraception
01:07:23.160 there is
01:07:23.880 huge
01:07:24.540 disagreement
01:07:25.120 even among
01:07:25.760 pro-lifers
01:07:26.320 even among
01:07:26.820 conservatives
01:07:27.360 on an issue
01:07:28.260 such as
01:07:28.780 in vitro
01:07:29.200 fertilization
01:07:29.920 the catholic
01:07:31.100 view and a
01:07:31.800 large part of
01:07:32.380 the pro-life
01:07:32.860 movement is
01:07:33.600 opposed to
01:07:34.060 in vitro
01:07:34.440 fertilization
01:07:35.100 but a lot
01:07:35.800 of people
01:07:36.120 are for it
01:07:36.760 as well
01:07:37.320 on the issue
01:07:38.120 of abortion
01:07:38.660 we're all
01:07:39.220 on board
01:07:39.700 we're all
01:07:40.120 on the same
01:07:40.620 team
01:07:40.940 and so there
01:07:41.580 might be
01:07:41.900 disagreements
01:07:42.520 and we
01:07:42.780 might believe
01:07:43.260 that certain
01:07:44.100 sides of
01:07:44.580 the pro-life
01:07:44.980 movement
01:07:45.240 don't understand
01:07:45.960 the bioethical
01:07:46.720 implications
01:07:47.160 of certain
01:07:47.640 things
01:07:47.940 but political
01:07:48.780 action requires
01:07:49.720 that you form
01:07:50.440 coalitions
01:07:51.260 and you fight
01:07:51.800 the battles
01:07:52.300 that are most
01:07:53.300 winnable
01:07:53.740 and most in
01:07:54.460 front of you
01:07:54.820 and right now
01:07:55.300 we're on the
01:07:55.920 verge of overruling
01:07:56.900 Roe vs. Wade
01:07:57.820 that could be
01:07:58.540 happening within
01:07:59.100 a matter of
01:07:59.680 weeks and a
01:08:00.200 matter of
01:08:00.540 months
01:08:00.840 and so I
01:08:01.760 think this
01:08:02.100 could be
01:08:02.400 the greatest
01:08:03.260 development in
01:08:04.940 American politics
01:08:05.720 in my lifetime
01:08:07.040 and so I just
01:08:08.420 think it's
01:08:08.880 we're going to
01:08:09.400 fight that battle
01:08:10.140 first and if we
01:08:11.000 can get that
01:08:11.560 win it will be
01:08:12.600 such a huge
01:08:13.440 victory
01:08:13.900 we can
01:08:14.700 hopefully
01:08:15.420 that major
01:08:16.500 victory
01:08:16.920 will inculcate
01:08:17.940 a culture of
01:08:18.580 life throughout
01:08:19.100 the country
01:08:19.600 and we can
01:08:20.240 deal with
01:08:20.520 these second
01:08:20.900 and third
01:08:21.220 order questions
01:08:21.960 after that
01:08:22.660 so I will
01:08:23.520 say also
01:08:24.120 one of the
01:08:24.620 things that I
01:08:25.140 think is
01:08:25.420 interesting and
01:08:26.000 fun about this
01:08:26.620 podcast is
01:08:27.460 that Michael
01:08:28.300 and I have
01:08:29.040 often very
01:08:29.700 different views
01:08:30.340 he is much
01:08:32.020 more of a
01:08:32.600 Burkean
01:08:32.980 conservative
01:08:33.540 I am much
01:08:34.280 more libertarian
01:08:35.160 he's a
01:08:37.480 Catholic
01:08:37.820 I'm a
01:08:38.440 Southern
01:08:38.620 Baptist
01:08:38.980 so as a
01:08:40.980 Southern
01:08:41.180 Baptist
01:08:41.580 you know
01:08:42.240 our views
01:08:42.780 on the
01:08:43.320 issue of
01:08:44.060 contraception
01:08:45.560 we're perfectly
01:08:46.380 fine with it
01:08:47.180 my view
01:08:49.140 I respect
01:08:50.000 the Catholic
01:08:50.560 Church's right
01:08:51.420 to set its
01:08:52.600 own rules
01:08:53.280 and standards
01:08:53.860 and have a
01:08:54.380 view on
01:08:55.400 contraception
01:08:56.260 and I
01:08:57.260 certainly will
01:08:58.040 defend the
01:08:59.380 religious liberty
01:09:00.060 of practicing
01:09:00.720 Catholics to
01:09:01.620 follow those
01:09:02.300 teachings
01:09:02.740 unlike the
01:09:03.620 current
01:09:03.880 administration
01:09:04.480 which sues
01:09:05.500 the Catholics
01:09:06.040 and the nuns
01:09:06.760 and the priests
01:09:07.340 for in any
01:09:08.160 way suggesting
01:09:09.460 that they should
01:09:11.120 follow their
01:09:11.520 own faith
01:09:12.000 by the way
01:09:12.520 I will say
01:09:13.140 as a
01:09:13.900 Southern
01:09:14.460 Baptist
01:09:14.880 there is
01:09:16.240 an old
01:09:16.600 line about
01:09:17.380 do you know
01:09:18.420 why it is
01:09:19.240 that Southern
01:09:20.060 Baptists are
01:09:20.760 opposed to
01:09:21.420 premarital
01:09:21.880 sex
01:09:22.440 why is that
01:09:23.620 well they're
01:09:24.340 afraid it
01:09:24.760 might lead
01:09:25.100 to dancing
01:09:25.660 again
01:09:27.540 you gotta
01:09:28.040 watch out
01:09:28.500 for that
01:09:28.840 but you know
01:09:29.760 look I
01:09:30.180 will say
01:09:31.140 there is
01:09:31.960 actually
01:09:32.540 outside of
01:09:33.560 the theological
01:09:34.320 you can make
01:09:35.380 your own
01:09:35.740 determinations
01:09:36.420 according to
01:09:36.980 your own
01:09:37.320 faith
01:09:37.700 on the
01:09:38.460 question of
01:09:38.920 contraception
01:09:39.640 but there
01:09:40.000 is an
01:09:40.380 important
01:09:41.000 political
01:09:42.000 and legal
01:09:42.500 distinction
01:09:43.020 which is
01:09:44.040 whether you
01:09:45.220 believe
01:09:45.580 contraception
01:09:46.400 is a good
01:09:46.820 or bad
01:09:47.200 thing
01:09:47.640 I don't
01:09:48.440 know of
01:09:48.720 anybody
01:09:49.120 arguing
01:09:49.620 it should
01:09:50.060 not be
01:09:50.440 legal
01:09:50.880 not yet
01:09:51.820 we haven't
01:09:52.460 gotten there
01:09:52.840 yet
01:09:53.120 look everyone
01:09:55.740 agrees
01:09:56.440 I remember
01:09:57.280 when I was
01:09:57.660 in college
01:09:58.120 we literally
01:09:58.640 had condom
01:09:59.780 machines
01:10:00.200 in the
01:10:00.720 restroom
01:10:01.100 for 50
01:10:01.600 cents
01:10:01.940 and some
01:10:03.120 of the
01:10:03.320 most fun
01:10:03.800 I had
01:10:04.120 was freshman
01:10:04.640 year
01:10:04.900 when a
01:10:05.180 guy came
01:10:05.660 banging on
01:10:06.140 my door
01:10:06.480 and said
01:10:06.680 dude I
01:10:07.160 need 50
01:10:07.540 cents
01:10:07.740 come on
01:10:08.020 man I
01:10:08.220 really need
01:10:08.520 50 cents
01:10:09.000 now
01:10:09.220 and I
01:10:09.400 said
01:10:09.500 really why
01:10:10.420 what's
01:10:10.740 going on
01:10:11.180 I've got
01:10:11.440 a dollar
01:10:11.920 will that
01:10:12.380 help
01:10:12.640 he's like
01:10:13.160 man stop
01:10:13.580 screwing
01:10:13.920 with it
01:10:14.080 give me
01:10:14.260 50 cents
01:10:14.800 right now
01:10:15.320 this is a
01:10:16.440 slight
01:10:16.620 digression
01:10:17.060 by the
01:10:17.600 time I
01:10:17.900 got to
01:10:18.160 college
01:10:18.480 which wasn't
01:10:19.100 all that
01:10:19.380 much later
01:10:19.880 they were
01:10:20.560 free
01:10:20.840 they actually
01:10:21.960 in every
01:10:22.640 dorm hall
01:10:23.220 they had
01:10:23.540 them for
01:10:23.820 free
01:10:24.080 but of
01:10:25.240 course
01:10:25.620 being these
01:10:26.640 kind of
01:10:26.920 nerdy
01:10:27.300 students
01:10:27.940 it was
01:10:29.520 mostly
01:10:29.940 balloon
01:10:30.320 animals
01:10:30.840 we got
01:10:32.980 an email
01:10:33.320 from the
01:10:33.680 administration
01:10:34.060 they said
01:10:34.460 we know
01:10:34.900 that you
01:10:35.220 people are
01:10:35.640 not having
01:10:36.060 this much
01:10:36.420 sex
01:10:36.800 quit
01:10:37.340 taking
01:10:38.220 all the
01:10:38.480 condoms
01:10:38.820 thank you
01:10:41.100 hey y'all
01:10:49.840 michael
01:10:50.580 senator
01:10:51.140 just want
01:10:51.680 to say
01:10:52.060 roll tide
01:10:52.600 first of all
01:10:53.560 senator
01:10:57.920 before you
01:10:58.900 started
01:10:59.200 they showed
01:10:59.580 us a clip
01:11:00.820 of you
01:11:01.120 talking about
01:11:01.680 the russian
01:11:02.040 pipeline
01:11:02.640 and how
01:11:03.160 russia uses
01:11:03.820 it to keep
01:11:04.660 europe dependent
01:11:05.380 on russia
01:11:06.020 for energy
01:11:06.640 i was wondering
01:11:07.660 what are you
01:11:08.640 doing to keep
01:11:09.280 america
01:11:09.700 independent
01:11:10.300 from any
01:11:12.400 other place
01:11:12.940 for energy
01:11:13.400 through clean
01:11:14.220 nuclear power
01:11:15.020 so fantastic
01:11:17.080 question
01:11:17.600 when it comes
01:11:19.120 to energy
01:11:19.760 i think american
01:11:20.620 energy independence
01:11:21.560 it's a question
01:11:22.320 of national security
01:11:23.320 but it's also
01:11:23.920 a question
01:11:24.300 of prosperity
01:11:24.960 if you look
01:11:27.680 at economic
01:11:28.380 prosperity
01:11:29.100 it follows
01:11:30.580 inexpensive
01:11:32.100 widely available
01:11:33.320 energy
01:11:33.720 and that's true
01:11:34.320 in the united
01:11:34.720 states
01:11:35.120 that's true
01:11:35.580 globally
01:11:36.020 i think we
01:11:37.100 ought to be
01:11:37.480 pursuing an
01:11:38.140 all of the above
01:11:38.920 approach
01:11:39.320 i think that
01:11:39.780 means nuclear
01:11:40.500 we ought to
01:11:41.300 get the
01:11:41.820 unnecessary
01:11:42.380 regulations
01:11:43.160 out of the
01:11:43.760 way to
01:11:44.160 developing
01:11:44.640 nuclear power
01:11:46.120 plants
01:11:46.620 it is
01:11:47.380 clean
01:11:48.120 it is
01:11:48.520 affordable
01:11:49.080 it has
01:11:49.660 no emissions
01:11:50.940 it also
01:11:52.040 means oil
01:11:53.020 gas
01:11:53.700 solar
01:11:54.600 wind
01:11:55.720 bio
01:11:56.620 all of
01:11:57.380 the above
01:11:58.180 but one of
01:11:59.680 the most
01:12:00.060 indefensible
01:12:00.980 policies
01:12:01.620 we've seen
01:12:02.340 the last
01:12:02.860 year under
01:12:03.480 the biden
01:12:03.880 administration
01:12:04.400 is we've
01:12:04.920 taken a
01:12:05.300 step back
01:12:05.820 on energy
01:12:06.260 independence
01:12:06.720 we're right
01:12:07.460 now importing
01:12:08.760 energy from
01:12:09.640 the enemies
01:12:10.260 of america
01:12:10.980 american
01:12:11.600 production is
01:12:12.400 down
01:12:12.800 american jobs
01:12:14.220 are down
01:12:14.720 and if you
01:12:15.120 want to know
01:12:15.500 the reason
01:12:16.120 that your
01:12:17.000 gasoline
01:12:17.620 that it
01:12:18.160 costs you
01:12:18.580 100 bucks
01:12:19.220 or 150
01:12:19.780 bucks
01:12:20.220 to fill
01:12:20.960 your truck
01:12:21.600 it is
01:12:22.880 because the
01:12:23.720 biden
01:12:24.040 administration
01:12:24.820 declared a
01:12:25.540 war on
01:12:26.540 american
01:12:27.040 energy
01:12:27.560 production
01:12:28.180 and this
01:12:29.180 ought to be
01:12:29.620 an issue
01:12:30.000 that brings
01:12:30.440 all of us
01:12:30.960 together
01:12:31.320 as we
01:12:31.640 ought to
01:12:31.860 produce
01:12:32.320 as much
01:12:33.340 energy as
01:12:33.940 possible
01:12:34.380 here
01:12:34.680 to lower
01:12:35.120 the prices
01:12:35.740 and that
01:12:36.580 also
01:12:37.020 is the
01:12:37.720 best
01:12:38.040 for the
01:12:38.360 environment
01:12:38.920 because
01:12:39.560 american
01:12:39.980 energy
01:12:40.340 is much
01:12:40.760 cleaner
01:12:41.100 here
01:12:41.440 than
01:12:41.860 is
01:12:42.080 energy
01:12:42.720 produced
01:12:43.120 abroad
01:12:43.500 hello
01:12:55.060 my name
01:12:55.600 is
01:12:55.720 jake
01:12:56.020 i'm
01:12:56.340 somewhat
01:12:56.620 on the
01:12:56.840 left
01:12:56.960 side
01:12:57.140 of
01:12:57.220 the
01:12:57.320 aisle
01:12:57.520 but
01:12:57.700 i'm
01:12:57.880 very
01:12:58.240 open
01:12:58.580 minded
01:12:58.960 and
01:12:59.320 willing
01:12:59.620 to
01:12:59.700 entertain
01:13:00.000 conversations
01:13:00.640 with
01:13:00.880 anyone
01:13:01.240 i have
01:13:02.000 noticed
01:13:02.280 that
01:13:02.540 social
01:13:02.840 media
01:13:03.120 censorship
01:13:03.620 affects
01:13:04.160 progressive
01:13:04.620 users
01:13:05.020 on a
01:13:05.380 similar
01:13:05.600 level
01:13:05.900 with
01:13:06.140 conservatives
01:13:06.620 and it
01:13:07.200 seems
01:13:07.500 that
01:13:07.760 twitter
01:13:08.040 has
01:13:08.420 no
01:13:08.660 problem
01:13:09.200 keeping
01:13:09.820 the
01:13:10.040 status
01:13:10.340 quo
01:13:10.640 and
01:13:10.880 censoring
01:13:11.320 people
01:13:11.620 that
01:13:11.800 question
01:13:12.140 authority
01:13:12.600 have you
01:13:13.360 ever
01:13:13.520 considered
01:13:13.860 reaching out
01:13:14.500 to populist
01:13:15.120 politicians
01:13:15.620 on the
01:13:16.020 other
01:13:16.180 side
01:13:16.400 of the
01:13:16.600 aisle
01:13:16.820 to try
01:13:17.120 to figure
01:13:17.400 out a
01:13:17.640 common
01:13:17.900 solution
01:13:18.320 about
01:13:18.580 free
01:13:18.880 speech
01:13:19.160 with
01:13:19.320 big
01:13:19.520 tech
01:13:19.740 so
01:13:20.920 it's
01:13:21.100 a
01:13:21.180 great
01:13:21.380 question
01:13:21.860 and i
01:13:22.100 will
01:13:22.200 say
01:13:22.440 you're
01:13:22.660 very
01:13:22.900 open
01:13:23.260 minded
01:13:23.660 and
01:13:24.200 with
01:13:24.680 a
01:13:24.800 white
01:13:25.000 socks
01:13:25.320 shirt
01:13:25.620 i can
01:13:26.140 see
01:13:26.380 that
01:13:26.700 as
01:13:27.060 an
01:13:29.380 astros
01:13:29.860 fan
01:13:30.240 i'm
01:13:31.200 open
01:13:31.520 minded
01:13:31.820 as
01:13:32.060 well
01:13:32.300 look
01:13:35.180 it
01:13:36.260 ought
01:13:36.640 to be
01:13:37.240 a
01:13:37.480 natural
01:13:38.020 overlap
01:13:38.760 and
01:13:39.120 so
01:13:39.820 for
01:13:40.120 example
01:13:40.740 a
01:13:41.140 couple
01:13:41.280 of
01:13:41.420 years
01:13:41.700 ago
01:13:42.160 elizabeth
01:13:43.220 warren
01:13:43.800 bought
01:13:45.720 ads
01:13:46.280 on
01:13:46.480 facebook
01:13:46.920 saying
01:13:47.740 break up
01:13:48.400 facebook
01:13:48.880 and
01:13:50.040 facebook
01:13:50.580 being
01:13:51.180 morons
01:13:52.000 blocked
01:13:53.460 her
01:13:53.640 ads
01:13:53.960 and said
01:13:54.260 we're
01:13:54.380 not
01:13:54.540 going
01:13:54.660 to
01:13:54.720 allow
01:13:54.900 you
01:13:55.040 to
01:13:55.140 run
01:13:55.280 the
01:13:55.440 ads
01:13:55.760 which
01:13:56.580 was
01:13:56.780 really
01:13:57.240 stupid
01:13:57.860 and
01:13:59.220 she
01:14:00.300 put
01:14:00.880 out
01:14:01.160 a
01:14:01.420 tweet
01:14:01.780 because
01:14:02.780 facebook
01:14:03.180 blocked
01:14:03.620 her
01:14:03.760 saying
01:14:04.240 you know
01:14:04.500 this
01:14:04.740 shows
01:14:05.140 how
01:14:05.340 big
01:14:05.600 tech
01:14:05.840 has
01:14:06.060 too
01:14:06.220 much
01:14:06.440 power
01:14:06.900 that
01:14:07.500 they're
01:14:07.700 able
01:14:07.880 to
01:14:08.040 block
01:14:08.320 my
01:14:08.580 ads
01:14:09.020 i
01:14:09.260 did
01:14:09.840 something
01:14:10.220 i
01:14:10.440 very
01:14:10.700 rarely
01:14:11.020 do
01:14:11.420 i
01:14:11.900 retweeted
01:14:12.600 elizabeth
01:14:12.980 warren
01:14:13.460 the
01:14:14.480 one
01:14:14.700 and
01:14:15.180 only
01:14:15.360 time
01:14:15.780 and
01:14:16.440 in
01:14:16.640 fact
01:14:17.000 not
01:14:17.360 only
01:14:17.680 that
01:14:18.140 at
01:14:18.780 the
01:14:18.920 time
01:14:19.260 republicans
01:14:19.820 had a
01:14:20.040 majority
01:14:20.380 in
01:14:20.560 the
01:14:20.720 senate
01:14:20.960 and
01:14:21.200 i
01:14:21.360 chaired
01:14:21.720 multiple
01:14:22.180 hearings
01:14:22.680 on
01:14:22.900 big
01:14:23.120 tech
01:14:23.340 censorship
01:14:23.880 i
01:14:24.740 asked
01:14:25.020 elizabeth
01:14:25.380 to come
01:14:25.700 testify
01:14:26.220 unfortunately
01:14:28.280 she
01:14:28.740 declined
01:14:29.240 and
01:14:30.840 i can
01:14:31.140 tell you
01:14:31.660 from my
01:14:32.260 end
01:14:32.580 i've
01:14:32.980 tried
01:14:33.360 to
01:14:33.580 reach
01:14:33.840 out
01:14:34.080 to
01:14:34.240 those
01:14:34.520 on
01:14:34.660 the
01:14:34.780 left
01:14:35.200 even
01:14:37.620 the
01:14:38.100 self
01:14:38.720 styled
01:14:39.320 populists
01:14:40.080 on
01:14:40.260 the
01:14:40.400 left
01:14:40.840 have
01:14:42.100 not
01:14:42.480 been
01:14:42.760 willing
01:14:43.100 to
01:14:43.340 take
01:14:43.600 on
01:14:43.820 big
01:14:44.060 tech
01:14:44.380 on
01:14:44.560 censorship
01:14:45.180 and
01:14:46.460 and
01:14:46.740 it's
01:14:47.220 you know
01:14:47.500 when we
01:14:47.840 have
01:14:48.060 hearings
01:14:48.560 in the
01:14:48.880 senate
01:14:49.080 on
01:14:49.300 censorship
01:14:49.780 it's
01:14:50.540 almost
01:14:50.740 like
01:14:50.980 ships
01:14:51.240 passing
01:14:51.620 in
01:14:51.760 the
01:14:51.820 night
01:14:52.120 where
01:14:53.340 where
01:14:54.280 many
01:14:54.640 on
01:14:54.900 the
01:14:55.040 right
01:14:55.280 say
01:14:55.540 you
01:14:55.720 censor
01:14:56.080 too
01:14:56.280 much
01:14:56.700 but
01:14:58.380 many
01:14:59.180 on
01:14:59.340 the
01:14:59.460 left
01:14:59.720 are
01:14:59.880 telling
01:15:00.140 them
01:15:00.300 they
01:15:00.500 don't
01:15:00.840 censor
01:15:01.360 enough
01:15:01.940 and
01:15:03.400 and
01:15:03.420 and
01:15:03.440 and
01:15:03.700 and
01:15:03.720 and
01:15:03.740 i
01:15:03.820 mean
01:15:03.920 we've
01:15:04.200 had
01:15:04.360 hearings
01:15:04.760 basically
01:15:05.320 where
01:15:05.600 democrats
01:15:06.040 are
01:15:06.480 yelling
01:15:06.980 at
01:15:07.180 mark
01:15:07.400 zuckerberg
01:15:08.000 why
01:15:08.760 did
01:15:09.120 you
01:15:09.280 let
01:15:09.520 trump
01:15:09.920 win
01:15:10.260 in
01:15:10.440 2016
01:15:11.120 how
01:15:11.920 could
01:15:12.180 you
01:15:12.360 possibly
01:15:13.020 let
01:15:13.340 anyone
01:15:13.660 speak
01:15:14.100 on
01:15:14.300 that
01:15:14.520 side
01:15:14.780 of
01:15:14.880 the
01:15:15.020 aisle
01:15:15.360 and
01:15:17.020 i
01:15:17.140 gotta
01:15:17.280 tell
01:15:17.620 you
01:15:17.760 it
01:15:17.980 is
01:15:18.160 not
01:15:18.520 an
01:15:18.820 accidental
01:15:19.500 shift
01:15:20.100 in
01:15:21.220 big
01:15:21.480 tech
01:15:21.840 that
01:15:22.100 there's
01:15:22.880 there's
01:15:23.580 a
01:15:23.720 document
01:15:24.160 that i
01:15:24.460 discussed
01:15:24.840 in one
01:15:25.120 of
01:15:25.200 these
01:15:25.340 hearings
01:15:25.640 i
01:15:25.840 chaired
01:15:26.120 that google
01:15:26.560 prepared
01:15:26.960 it's
01:15:27.160 called
01:15:27.320 the
01:15:27.480 good
01:15:27.660 censor
01:15:28.140 and
01:15:28.980 this
01:15:29.180 is
01:15:29.360 a
01:15:29.540 google
01:15:29.860 powerpoint
01:15:30.480 it's
01:15:30.560 about
01:15:30.680 50
01:15:30.980 pages
01:15:31.340 they
01:15:31.540 made
01:15:31.820 it
01:15:32.020 and
01:15:32.820 they
01:15:32.960 described
01:15:33.520 how
01:15:33.820 the
01:15:34.040 old
01:15:34.580 view
01:15:34.940 of
01:15:35.140 the
01:15:35.280 internet
01:15:35.560 was
01:15:36.540 and
01:15:36.680 this
01:15:36.820 is
01:15:36.940 using
01:15:37.200 their
01:15:37.460 language
01:15:38.040 the
01:15:38.640 laissez
01:15:39.340 faire
01:15:39.760 free
01:15:40.120 speech
01:15:40.500 model
01:15:40.860 in
01:15:41.060 other
01:15:41.240 words
01:15:41.380 let
01:15:41.580 everyone
01:15:41.860 speak
01:15:42.340 and
01:15:43.320 then
01:15:43.440 they
01:15:43.580 described
01:15:44.240 how
01:15:44.700 big
01:15:45.080 tech
01:15:45.480 had
01:15:45.660 made
01:15:45.880 a
01:15:46.080 conscious
01:15:46.540 decision
01:15:47.280 towards
01:15:48.080 a
01:15:48.260 different
01:15:48.560 model
01:15:48.920 and
01:15:49.060 here's
01:15:49.280 what
01:15:49.420 they
01:15:49.560 called
01:15:49.900 it
01:15:50.080 the
01:15:50.760 European
01:15:51.240 style
01:15:52.000 censorship
01:15:52.640 model
01:15:53.140 and
01:15:54.040 google
01:15:54.360 identified
01:15:54.960 four
01:15:55.420 companies
01:15:55.880 that
01:15:56.080 made
01:15:56.320 that
01:15:56.520 decision
01:15:57.040 google
01:15:57.960 facebook
01:15:58.500 twitter
01:15:59.020 and
01:15:59.320 youtube
01:15:59.660 which
01:16:00.420 google
01:16:00.740 wholly
01:16:01.040 owns
01:16:01.420 this
01:16:02.720 is
01:16:03.040 an
01:16:03.200 explicit
01:16:03.900 decision
01:16:04.540 and by
01:16:04.960 the
01:16:05.120 way
01:16:05.420 the
01:16:05.940 paroxysms
01:16:07.040 that
01:16:07.260 we're
01:16:07.460 seeing
01:16:08.100 not only
01:16:09.260 from
01:16:09.540 twitter
01:16:09.940 but
01:16:10.300 from
01:16:10.900 the
01:16:11.280 media
01:16:11.980 about
01:16:12.820 Elon Musk
01:16:13.440 potentially
01:16:13.920 buying
01:16:14.320 twitter
01:16:14.640 show
01:16:14.940 this
01:16:15.180 is
01:16:15.340 a
01:16:15.520 conscious
01:16:15.880 decision
01:16:16.420 it's
01:16:16.760 not
01:16:17.080 an
01:16:17.740 accidental
01:16:18.300 drift
01:16:18.820 it
01:16:19.040 is
01:16:19.240 we
01:16:19.500 will
01:16:19.800 silence
01:16:20.380 view
01:16:20.660 so
01:16:20.880 what
01:16:21.080 I
01:16:21.240 would
01:16:21.400 encourage
01:16:21.820 I
01:16:22.700 will
01:16:22.900 say
01:16:23.220 again
01:16:23.580 what
01:16:23.780 I
01:16:23.920 said
01:16:24.160 to
01:16:24.300 the
01:16:24.420 other
01:16:24.560 young
01:16:24.780 lady
01:16:25.020 who
01:16:25.180 was
01:16:25.360 here
01:16:25.560 thank
01:16:25.980 you
01:16:26.180 for
01:16:26.400 coming
01:16:26.820 particularly
01:16:27.920 if
01:16:28.320 your
01:16:28.740 views
01:16:29.000 are
01:16:29.160 different
01:16:29.440 thank
01:16:29.740 you
01:16:29.840 for
01:16:29.960 being
01:16:30.160 part
01:16:30.420 of
01:16:30.520 this
01:16:30.680 conversation
01:16:31.340 I
01:16:32.420 would
01:16:32.740 love
01:16:33.280 to
01:16:33.540 see
01:16:33.960 people
01:16:35.620 on
01:16:35.940 the
01:16:36.160 left
01:16:36.520 engage
01:16:37.560 and
01:16:38.940 engage
01:16:39.580 in
01:16:39.780 defense
01:16:40.180 of
01:16:40.380 free
01:16:40.640 speech
01:16:41.100 right
01:16:41.540 now
01:16:42.160 there
01:16:44.680 are
01:16:44.860 too
01:16:45.120 few
01:16:45.440 there
01:16:45.660 are
01:16:45.840 almost
01:16:46.400 no
01:16:46.820 elected
01:16:47.540 voices
01:16:48.140 on
01:16:49.120 the
01:16:49.300 left
01:16:49.700 that
01:16:50.360 defend
01:16:50.760 free
01:16:51.060 speech
01:16:51.440 and
01:16:51.600 we've
01:16:51.920 got
01:16:52.160 to
01:16:52.420 find
01:16:52.740 a
01:16:52.940 way
01:16:53.280 to
01:16:53.900 help
01:16:54.540 you
01:16:54.900 know
01:16:54.980 one
01:16:55.160 of
01:16:55.260 the
01:16:55.360 real
01:16:55.580 illustrations
01:16:56.140 of
01:16:56.500 that
01:16:56.720 you
01:16:56.880 know
01:16:57.000 who's
01:16:57.260 bizarrely
01:16:58.020 become
01:16:58.360 a
01:16:58.500 conservative
01:16:59.000 is
01:17:00.120 Bill
01:17:00.360 Maher
01:17:00.720 yeah
01:17:01.540 now
01:17:01.860 Bill
01:17:02.080 Maher
01:17:02.360 is
01:17:02.500 not
01:17:02.700 a
01:17:02.820 conservative
01:17:03.280 no
01:17:03.760 but
01:17:04.320 Bill
01:17:04.600 Maher
01:17:04.860 is
01:17:05.040 an
01:17:05.180 old
01:17:05.520 school
01:17:05.940 liberal
01:17:06.500 which
01:17:07.540 means
01:17:07.840 among
01:17:08.060 other
01:17:08.300 things
01:17:08.700 he
01:17:08.900 believes
01:17:09.300 in
01:17:09.520 things
01:17:09.880 like
01:17:10.160 free
01:17:10.480 speech
01:17:11.140 which
01:17:12.120 in
01:17:12.340 today's
01:17:12.960 upside
01:17:13.300 down
01:17:13.760 world
01:17:14.220 makes
01:17:14.720 an
01:17:14.880 old
01:17:15.120 school
01:17:15.420 liberal
01:17:15.860 seem
01:17:16.220 like
01:17:16.420 a
01:17:16.540 conservative
01:17:16.980 or
01:17:17.260 Rogan
01:17:17.680 Rogan
01:17:18.240 is
01:17:18.580 I think
01:17:19.180 a great
01:17:19.720 example
01:17:20.040 of what
01:17:20.300 you're
01:17:20.420 talking
01:17:20.760 about
01:17:21.000 he
01:17:21.280 was
01:17:21.680 too
01:17:21.920 big
01:17:22.360 to
01:17:22.760 totally
01:17:23.240 kick
01:17:23.540 off
01:17:23.800 of
01:17:24.080 the
01:17:24.280 social
01:17:24.580 media
01:17:24.780 platforms
01:17:25.260 but
01:17:25.980 they
01:17:26.180 did
01:17:26.360 censor
01:17:26.740 his
01:17:26.920 podcasts
01:17:27.500 when
01:17:27.760 those
01:17:27.940 podcasts
01:17:28.460 contradicted
01:17:29.340 the
01:17:29.560 ruling
01:17:29.880 regime
01:17:30.460 Rogan
01:17:31.600 is
01:17:32.060 a
01:17:32.400 Bernie
01:17:32.620 bro
01:17:32.960 but
01:17:33.260 because
01:17:33.680 he
01:17:33.800 was
01:17:33.940 threatening
01:17:34.260 the
01:17:34.480 liberal
01:17:34.720 establishment
01:17:35.280 they
01:17:35.760 really
01:17:35.960 came
01:17:36.220 down
01:17:36.420 pretty
01:17:36.660 hard
01:17:36.940 and
01:17:37.060 they
01:17:37.180 largely
01:17:37.560 succeeded
01:17:38.460 it's
01:17:39.200 worth
01:17:39.440 remembering
01:17:39.940 that
01:17:40.660 we're
01:17:41.500 not
01:17:41.780 saying
01:17:42.260 that
01:17:42.580 at least
01:17:43.560 I'm
01:17:43.740 not
01:17:43.900 saying
01:17:44.100 that
01:17:44.260 absolutely
01:17:45.000 anything
01:17:45.540 should be
01:17:46.300 permissible
01:17:46.700 on these
01:17:47.080 platforms
01:17:47.600 I don't
01:17:48.420 think
01:17:48.720 snuff
01:17:49.300 videos
01:17:49.700 should
01:17:50.160 be
01:17:50.300 allowed
01:17:50.640 animal
01:17:51.600 torture
01:17:52.120 content
01:17:52.760 I think
01:17:53.120 that should
01:17:53.400 probably
01:17:53.800 be
01:17:54.140 snuffed
01:17:55.000 out
01:17:55.240 as it
01:17:55.520 were
01:17:55.680 I don't
01:17:56.220 think
01:17:56.400 that
01:17:56.540 direct
01:17:56.800 threats
01:17:57.180 should
01:17:57.380 be
01:17:57.500 allowed
01:17:57.760 I mean
01:17:57.980 there
01:17:58.680 are
01:17:59.460 limits
01:17:59.940 on
01:18:00.160 these
01:18:00.340 sorts
01:18:00.560 of
01:18:00.700 things
01:18:00.920 because
01:18:01.420 every
01:18:01.940 society
01:18:02.780 has
01:18:03.140 standards
01:18:03.840 and
01:18:04.420 taboos
01:18:04.960 every
01:18:05.200 society
01:18:05.620 that there
01:18:05.920 has
01:18:06.020 ever been
01:18:06.460 and
01:18:08.460 so what
01:18:08.720 the left
01:18:09.100 has
01:18:09.320 done
01:18:09.600 is
01:18:10.080 they've
01:18:10.520 used
01:18:11.340 an
01:18:11.700 argument
01:18:12.300 sort
01:18:12.740 of
01:18:12.880 for
01:18:13.040 free
01:18:13.320 speech
01:18:13.680 as
01:18:14.160 merely
01:18:14.700 an
01:18:14.980 instrument
01:18:15.440 to
01:18:15.880 upend
01:18:16.280 all
01:18:16.500 of
01:18:16.600 our
01:18:16.720 traditional
01:18:17.140 standards
01:18:17.680 you have
01:18:18.100 the
01:18:18.200 free
01:18:18.380 speech
01:18:18.620 movement
01:18:18.900 at
01:18:19.080 Berkeley
01:18:19.380 in
01:18:19.560 the
01:18:19.680 60s
01:18:20.100 all
01:18:20.480 of a
01:18:20.740 sudden
01:18:20.920 now
01:18:21.220 they're
01:18:21.660 censoring
01:18:22.100 the
01:18:22.240 New York
01:18:22.540 Post
01:18:22.820 from
01:18:23.020 reporting
01:18:23.400 on
01:18:23.580 the
01:18:23.720 Biden
01:18:23.960 family
01:18:24.340 corruption
01:18:24.780 weeks
01:18:25.400 before
01:18:25.680 a
01:18:25.860 presidential
01:18:26.220 election
01:18:26.760 and
01:18:27.120 so I
01:18:27.340 think
01:18:27.560 it
01:18:27.660 is
01:18:27.780 important
01:18:28.080 also
01:18:28.480 for
01:18:28.980 conservatives
01:18:29.580 and
01:18:29.820 just
01:18:29.980 ordinary
01:18:30.360 people
01:18:30.800 to
01:18:31.220 articulate
01:18:31.660 what
01:18:32.160 our
01:18:32.720 standards
01:18:33.100 are
01:18:33.360 what
01:18:33.540 our
01:18:33.680 norms
01:18:34.100 are
01:18:34.300 what
01:18:34.500 our
01:18:34.660 taboos
01:18:35.200 are
01:18:35.520 because
01:18:36.020 if we
01:18:36.420 don't
01:18:36.620 do
01:18:36.800 that
01:18:36.960 if we
01:18:37.140 don't
01:18:37.240 have
01:18:37.340 a
01:18:37.460 substantive
01:18:37.880 vision
01:18:38.360 of
01:18:38.840 politics
01:18:39.460 then
01:18:39.940 the
01:18:40.160 right
01:18:40.480 of
01:18:40.580 free
01:18:40.800 speech
01:18:41.080 in
01:18:41.200 the
01:18:41.300 abstract
01:18:41.640 isn't
01:18:42.100 going
01:18:42.280 to
01:18:42.460 mean
01:18:42.660 anything
01:18:42.980 to
01:18:43.420 people
01:18:43.680 who
01:18:43.820 have
01:18:43.960 nothing
01:18:44.220 to
01:18:44.420 say
01:18:44.740 and
01:18:45.140 all
01:18:45.320 of
01:18:45.440 a
01:18:45.540 sudden
01:18:45.720 the
01:18:45.880 norms
01:18:46.160 are
01:18:46.300 going
01:18:46.420 to
01:18:46.460 be
01:18:46.700 obscenity
01:18:47.780 is
01:18:48.000 fine
01:18:48.440 pornography
01:18:49.220 is
01:18:49.520 fine
01:18:49.960 threats
01:18:50.760 as long
01:18:51.440 as they're
01:18:51.720 against
01:18:51.960 conservatives
01:18:52.440 are
01:19:01.220 what
01:19:01.820 we
01:19:01.940 really
01:19:02.180 believe
01:19:02.540 I'd
01:19:03.300 also
01:19:03.460 be
01:19:03.640 curious
01:19:04.000 and
01:19:04.440 I guess
01:19:04.860 this
01:19:05.040 relates
01:19:05.360 less
01:19:05.820 to
01:19:06.200 members
01:19:06.900 of
01:19:07.160 Congress
01:19:07.540 although
01:19:07.800 perhaps
01:19:08.140 they
01:19:08.280 should
01:19:08.360 be
01:19:08.460 asked
01:19:08.600 this
01:19:08.720 question
01:19:08.960 too
01:19:09.160 and
01:19:09.340 more
01:19:09.560 to
01:19:09.820 your
01:19:10.080 peers
01:19:10.540 leftists
01:19:11.480 on
01:19:11.700 college
01:19:11.940 campus
01:19:12.180 I'd
01:19:12.620 be
01:19:12.740 interested
01:19:13.080 to hear
01:19:13.360 their
01:19:13.520 answer
01:19:13.860 if
01:19:14.420 you
01:19:14.560 ask
01:19:14.860 them
01:19:15.080 what
01:19:15.380 are
01:19:15.500 you
01:19:15.640 afraid
01:19:16.060 of
01:19:16.440 if
01:19:16.920 you
01:19:17.060 attend
01:19:17.360 a
01:19:17.480 conservative
01:19:17.840 event
01:19:18.200 what
01:19:18.420 are
01:19:18.740 you
01:19:18.860 afraid
01:19:19.260 of
01:19:19.560 if
01:19:19.740 you
01:19:19.860 hear
01:19:20.160 conservative
01:19:20.620 principles
01:19:21.020 what
01:19:21.220 are
01:19:21.300 you
01:19:21.380 afraid
01:19:21.780 of
01:19:22.080 if
01:19:22.560 you
01:19:22.780 are
01:19:23.200 part
01:19:23.680 of
01:19:24.100 a
01:19:24.320 dialogue
01:19:24.740 with
01:19:25.140 someone
01:19:25.500 who
01:19:26.180 opposes
01:19:26.960 your
01:19:27.160 viewpoints
01:19:27.600 whether
01:19:27.820 it's
01:19:28.060 on a
01:19:28.260 practical
01:19:28.560 matter
01:19:28.860 a
01:19:29.020 policy
01:19:29.280 issue
01:19:29.580 or
01:19:29.760 an
01:19:29.860 ideology
01:19:30.280 are
01:19:30.780 you
01:19:30.920 afraid
01:19:31.400 that
01:19:31.840 you're
01:19:32.100 going
01:19:32.280 to
01:19:32.380 be
01:19:32.500 disproven
01:19:33.080 are
01:19:33.320 you
01:19:33.480 afraid
01:19:33.840 that
01:19:34.060 conservatives
01:19:34.460 might
01:19:34.700 be
01:19:34.940 correct
01:19:35.620 on
01:19:35.800 something
01:19:36.000 what
01:19:36.420 is
01:19:36.820 the
01:19:37.500 fear
01:19:37.700 because
01:19:37.920 what's
01:19:38.400 happened
01:19:38.780 on
01:19:38.980 campuses
01:19:39.780 and
01:19:39.960 I
01:19:40.060 guess
01:19:40.180 even
01:19:40.380 earlier
01:19:40.760 in
01:19:41.060 high
01:19:41.560 school
01:19:41.820 and
01:19:41.960 elementary
01:19:42.340 school
01:19:42.640 is
01:19:42.840 kids
01:19:43.280 are
01:19:43.420 just
01:19:43.640 taught
01:19:44.160 not
01:19:44.780 to
01:19:44.940 have
01:19:45.080 these
01:19:45.240 conversations
01:19:45.760 anymore
01:19:46.140 but
01:19:46.360 I
01:19:46.460 think
01:19:46.800 a
01:19:47.040 lot
01:19:47.300 of
01:19:47.440 them
01:19:47.720 on
01:19:48.260 a
01:19:48.400 personal
01:19:48.780 level
01:19:49.220 would
01:19:49.740 actually
01:19:50.140 enjoy
01:19:50.520 having
01:19:50.840 the
01:19:50.980 conversations
01:19:51.400 would
01:19:51.640 actually
01:19:52.180 benefit
01:19:53.580 from
01:19:53.880 the
01:19:54.020 conversations
01:19:54.440 not
01:19:54.660 just
01:19:54.800 by
01:19:54.920 my
01:19:55.160 standards
01:19:55.440 but
01:19:55.680 even
01:19:55.920 in
01:19:56.060 their
01:19:56.180 own
01:19:56.400 beliefs
01:19:56.780 yet
01:19:57.160 they're
01:19:57.340 told
01:19:57.840 by
01:19:58.180 someone
01:19:58.480 else
01:19:58.760 that
01:19:58.900 they're
01:19:58.980 not
01:19:59.160 supposed
01:19:59.540 to
01:19:59.740 do
01:19:59.880 that
01:20:00.040 so
01:20:00.340 I'd
01:20:00.520 be
01:20:00.620 interested
01:20:00.960 in
01:20:01.400 hearing
01:20:02.120 the
01:20:02.300 answer
01:20:02.580 from
01:20:02.780 your
01:20:02.920 peers
01:20:03.160 of
01:20:03.320 what
01:20:03.500 they're
01:20:03.700 afraid
01:20:04.040 of
01:20:04.400 just
01:20:05.060 in
01:20:05.180 engaging
01:20:05.540 in
01:20:05.680 those
01:20:05.800 conversations
01:20:06.220 themselves
01:20:06.860 thank
01:20:08.180 you
01:20:09.420 good
01:20:17.620 evening
01:20:17.880 I've
01:20:19.340 got a
01:20:19.800 two-part
01:20:20.480 question
01:20:20.860 for y'all
01:20:21.260 first part
01:20:21.960 is
01:20:22.160 if you
01:20:22.960 could
01:20:23.100 pass
01:20:23.420 any
01:20:23.660 constitutional
01:20:24.280 amendment
01:20:24.720 what
01:20:25.280 kind
01:20:25.580 of
01:20:25.700 amendment
01:20:26.000 do
01:20:26.200 you
01:20:26.300 think
01:20:26.480 would
01:20:26.580 do
01:20:26.680 the
01:20:26.780 most
01:20:26.940 good
01:20:27.220 and
01:20:28.320 the
01:20:28.520 second
01:20:28.740 part
01:20:29.060 is
01:20:29.360 in
01:20:30.060 your
01:20:30.200 opinion
01:20:30.540 when
01:20:31.460 would
01:20:31.620 it
01:20:31.700 be
01:20:31.820 appropriate
01:20:32.280 or
01:20:32.880 how
01:20:33.100 bad
01:20:33.380 would
01:20:33.500 it
01:20:33.580 have
01:20:33.720 to
01:20:33.860 get
01:20:34.080 for
01:20:34.500 a
01:20:34.660 convention
01:20:35.060 of
01:20:35.220 the
01:20:35.340 states
01:20:35.620 to
01:20:35.780 pass
01:20:36.120 a
01:20:36.280 constitutional
01:20:36.740 amendment
01:20:37.160 well
01:20:38.480 those
01:20:38.720 are
01:20:38.820 great
01:20:39.040 questions
01:20:39.600 and
01:20:39.820 they're
01:20:40.280 closely
01:20:40.760 intertwined
01:20:41.600 I would
01:20:42.380 say
01:20:42.820 and I'm
01:20:43.100 going to
01:20:43.280 cheat a
01:20:43.660 little bit
01:20:44.020 and say
01:20:44.300 it's a
01:20:44.560 tie between
01:20:45.100 two
01:20:45.480 which is
01:20:46.220 number
01:20:46.460 one
01:20:46.780 a term
01:20:47.160 limits
01:20:47.460 amendment
01:20:47.760 and I
01:20:48.120 am a
01:20:48.700 strong
01:20:49.600 defender
01:20:50.060 of
01:20:50.260 term
01:20:50.440 limits
01:20:50.720 I am
01:20:57.340 the author
01:20:58.060 of a
01:20:58.720 term
01:20:58.900 limits
01:20:59.240 amendment
01:20:59.620 that would
01:21:00.080 limit
01:21:00.280 every
01:21:00.540 senator
01:21:00.880 to
01:21:01.080 two
01:21:01.280 terms
01:21:01.660 limit
01:21:01.920 every
01:21:02.160 house
01:21:02.460 member
01:21:02.740 to
01:21:02.920 three
01:21:03.180 terms
01:21:03.720 it
01:21:04.960 is
01:21:05.160 amazing
01:21:05.740 the
01:21:06.140 divide
01:21:06.620 if you
01:21:06.980 look at
01:21:07.380 it
01:21:07.480 the
01:21:07.620 overwhelming
01:21:08.200 majority
01:21:08.700 of Americans
01:21:09.200 support term
01:21:09.920 limits
01:21:10.240 the overwhelming
01:21:10.820 majority
01:21:11.240 of Republicans
01:21:11.860 the overwhelming
01:21:12.500 majority
01:21:12.920 of independents
01:21:13.660 even the
01:21:14.620 overwhelming
01:21:14.980 majority of
01:21:15.700 Democrats
01:21:16.120 support term
01:21:16.840 limits
01:21:17.240 the one
01:21:18.280 group that
01:21:18.720 doesn't support
01:21:19.300 term limits
01:21:19.980 is career
01:21:21.020 politicians
01:21:21.560 in Washington
01:21:22.160 and that's
01:21:23.420 true on both
01:21:23.980 sides
01:21:24.260 all the
01:21:24.800 Democrats
01:21:25.260 in the
01:21:25.540 Senate
01:21:25.720 I can't
01:21:26.140 get a
01:21:26.400 single
01:21:26.620 Democrat
01:21:27.000 in the
01:21:27.920 Senate
01:21:28.140 to support
01:21:28.900 term
01:21:29.160 limits
01:21:29.480 and I
01:21:30.260 can't get
01:21:30.700 any of the
01:21:31.260 Republicans
01:21:31.700 who've been
01:21:32.300 there a long
01:21:33.180 time to
01:21:33.600 support it
01:21:34.040 so it
01:21:34.680 is a
01:21:35.640 clear
01:21:36.420 divide
01:21:36.960 the second
01:21:38.180 amendment
01:21:38.600 that I
01:21:39.000 would also
01:21:40.020 put right
01:21:40.860 side by
01:21:41.380 side with
01:21:41.900 that is
01:21:42.220 a balanced
01:21:42.600 budget
01:21:42.960 amendment
01:21:43.340 48 of
01:21:44.440 the 50
01:21:44.820 states
01:21:45.220 have a
01:21:45.500 balanced
01:21:45.780 budget
01:21:46.140 amendment
01:21:46.500 I think
01:21:47.140 those two
01:21:47.860 amendments
01:21:48.280 would be
01:21:48.660 the two
01:21:49.080 most important
01:21:50.000 structural
01:21:51.180 amendments
01:21:51.760 for shrinking
01:21:52.900 the power
01:21:53.460 of the
01:21:53.660 federal
01:21:53.900 government
01:21:54.320 on the
01:21:55.120 question
01:21:55.500 of a
01:21:55.740 convention
01:21:56.060 of the
01:21:56.340 state
01:21:56.640 so the
01:21:56.980 constitution
01:21:57.500 provides
01:21:58.140 two
01:21:58.360 different
01:21:58.600 ways
01:21:58.980 of amending
01:21:59.380 the
01:21:59.560 constitution
01:22:00.100 one
01:22:01.320 through
01:22:01.960 amendments
01:22:02.420 proposed
01:22:02.900 by
01:22:03.200 congress
01:22:03.620 ratified
01:22:04.120 by
01:22:04.340 the
01:22:04.520 states
01:22:04.920 two
01:22:05.880 through
01:22:06.580 amendments
01:22:07.020 that come
01:22:07.420 out of
01:22:07.700 a convention
01:22:08.160 of the
01:22:08.500 states
01:22:08.900 called
01:22:09.400 for by
01:22:09.840 the
01:22:10.040 states
01:22:10.340 to
01:22:10.480 propose
01:22:10.820 amendments
01:22:11.260 in my
01:22:12.460 view
01:22:12.900 if
01:22:13.480 congress
01:22:14.120 continues
01:22:14.840 stiff
01:22:15.280 arming
01:22:15.640 the
01:22:15.820 people
01:22:16.200 on
01:22:17.140 term
01:22:17.640 limits
01:22:18.000 and
01:22:18.140 a
01:22:18.240 balanced
01:22:18.560 budget
01:22:18.920 amendment
01:22:19.300 I
01:22:19.520 think
01:22:19.720 there
01:22:19.960 is
01:22:20.140 more
01:22:20.560 and
01:22:20.780 more
01:22:21.120 growing
01:22:21.900 momentum
01:22:22.340 for
01:22:22.620 a
01:22:22.760 convention
01:22:23.080 of
01:22:23.280 the
01:22:23.420 states
01:22:23.820 and
01:22:24.560 I
01:22:24.700 think
01:22:24.880 we
01:22:25.080 are
01:22:25.240 likely
01:22:25.620 to
01:22:25.840 either
01:22:26.200 A
01:22:26.700 see
01:22:27.180 a
01:22:27.360 convention
01:22:27.760 of the
01:22:28.120 states
01:22:30.100 it
01:22:30.280 gets
01:22:30.560 very
01:22:30.900 very
01:22:31.160 close
01:22:31.600 to
01:22:31.820 finally
01:22:32.220 have
01:22:32.520 congress
01:22:33.080 blink
01:22:33.620 because
01:22:34.300 they're
01:22:34.640 afraid
01:22:35.020 of
01:22:35.180 a
01:22:35.280 convention
01:22:35.640 of
01:22:35.840 the
01:22:35.980 states
01:22:36.360 and
01:22:36.900 propose
01:22:37.360 those
01:22:37.680 amendments
01:22:38.000 to
01:22:38.220 ratifications
01:22:38.960 either
01:22:39.740 one of
01:22:40.180 those
01:22:40.400 would be
01:22:40.640 a
01:22:40.760 better
01:22:40.940 outcome
01:22:41.320 than
01:22:41.500 where
01:22:41.600 we
01:22:41.740 are
01:22:41.860 now
01:22:42.120 the
01:22:42.580 amendment
01:22:43.040 that I
01:22:43.540 would
01:22:43.700 pass
01:22:44.160 actually
01:22:44.840 has
01:22:45.280 to do
01:22:45.500 with
01:22:45.620 your
01:22:45.780 job
01:22:46.080 senator
01:22:46.380 I
01:22:47.300 would
01:22:47.740 overturn
01:22:48.660 the
01:22:49.280 17th
01:22:50.040 amendment
01:22:50.360 I
01:22:50.760 would
01:22:50.900 pass
01:22:51.200 an
01:22:51.340 amendment
01:22:51.600 to
01:22:52.060 overrule
01:22:52.440 the
01:22:52.580 17th
01:22:53.020 amendment
01:22:53.300 which
01:22:53.780 provided
01:22:54.280 for
01:22:54.480 the
01:22:54.600 so
01:22:54.760 you
01:23:00.100 so
01:23:05.860 the
01:23:06.140 17th
01:23:06.500 amendment
01:23:06.740 provides
01:23:07.180 for the
01:23:07.460 direct
01:23:07.800 election
01:23:08.180 of
01:23:08.360 senators
01:23:08.720 probably
01:23:09.800 not
01:23:10.120 going
01:23:10.220 to
01:23:10.280 be
01:23:10.400 a
01:23:10.600 very
01:23:10.880 popular
01:23:11.300 issue
01:23:11.680 to
01:23:11.840 run
01:23:12.040 on
01:23:12.220 to
01:23:12.340 say
01:23:12.460 we
01:23:12.600 don't
01:23:12.820 want
01:23:12.960 the
01:23:13.080 people
01:23:13.320 to
01:23:13.700 directly
01:23:14.040 elect
01:23:14.340 their
01:23:14.500 senators
01:23:14.820 but
01:23:15.000 I
01:23:15.100 think
01:23:15.220 it's
01:23:15.340 really
01:23:15.600 important
01:23:16.080 because
01:23:16.660 when
01:23:17.820 you
01:23:18.040 got
01:23:18.260 rid
01:23:18.440 of
01:23:18.680 the
01:23:19.000 states
01:23:19.780 electing
01:23:20.420 the
01:23:20.580 senators
01:23:20.940 the
01:23:21.380 state
01:23:21.620 houses
01:23:21.980 and
01:23:22.620 instead
01:23:23.120 gave
01:23:23.420 it
01:23:23.520 to
01:23:23.640 the
01:23:23.780 people
01:23:24.080 you
01:23:25.140 basically
01:23:25.660 destroyed
01:23:26.480 any
01:23:26.980 power
01:23:27.500 that
01:23:27.740 the
01:23:27.900 states
01:23:28.240 had
01:23:28.600 in
01:23:29.200 the
01:23:29.480 national
01:23:29.900 government
01:23:30.340 it
01:23:30.740 went
01:23:30.940 away
01:23:31.180 I
01:23:31.320 remember
01:23:31.480 I
01:23:31.620 got
01:23:31.720 to
01:23:31.860 speak
01:23:32.040 to
01:23:32.180 Antonin
01:23:32.620 Scalia
01:23:32.900 as a
01:23:33.760 student
01:23:34.020 we
01:23:34.200 went
01:23:34.360 up
01:23:34.460 to
01:23:34.560 the
01:23:34.680 Supreme
01:23:34.980 Court
01:23:35.300 and
01:23:35.740 he
01:23:35.860 said
01:23:36.120 states
01:23:36.500 rights
01:23:36.960 completely
01:23:37.760 went
01:23:38.020 out
01:23:38.160 the
01:23:38.300 window
01:23:38.600 with
01:23:39.160 the
01:23:39.340 17th
01:23:39.860 amendment
01:23:40.120 and
01:23:40.360 so
01:23:40.520 if
01:23:40.900 you
01:23:41.060 feel
01:23:41.480 that
01:23:41.660 right
01:23:41.900 now
01:23:42.200 we
01:23:42.600 have
01:23:42.800 an
01:23:42.920 increasingly
01:23:43.580 overbearing
01:23:44.480 autocratic
01:23:45.200 sort of
01:23:45.860 federal
01:23:46.100 government
01:23:46.540 if
01:23:46.960 you
01:23:47.100 feel
01:23:47.540 that
01:23:47.760 now
01:23:48.160 the
01:23:48.800 traditional
01:23:49.660 structures
01:23:50.240 of
01:23:50.500 America
01:23:50.960 are
01:23:51.800 going
01:23:52.200 away
01:23:52.600 and
01:23:52.760 you
01:23:52.880 feel
01:23:53.160 that
01:23:53.280 were
01:23:53.400 being
01:23:53.620 governed
01:23:53.940 by
01:23:54.200 Los
01:23:54.500 Angeles
01:23:54.840 and
01:23:55.060 New
01:23:55.200 York
01:23:55.420 and
01:23:55.580 San
01:23:55.740 Francisco
01:23:56.160 and
01:23:56.700 D.C.
01:23:57.140 most of
01:23:57.580 all
01:23:57.900 then I
01:23:58.580 think
01:23:58.740 it's
01:23:58.880 really
01:23:59.100 important
01:23:59.520 as a
01:23:59.800 structural
01:24:00.120 matter
01:24:00.420 to
01:24:00.840 bring
01:24:01.300 back
01:24:01.840 some
01:24:02.200 role
01:24:02.580 for
01:24:03.000 the
01:24:03.180 states
01:24:03.600 so
01:24:03.840 that
01:24:04.040 my
01:24:04.420 state
01:24:04.680 of
01:24:04.820 Tennessee
01:24:05.180 Texas
01:24:06.080 Florida
01:24:07.000 ordinary
01:24:07.800 states
01:24:08.480 can come
01:24:08.860 in and
01:24:09.120 say
01:24:09.240 don't
01:24:09.480 forget
01:24:09.700 Alabama
01:24:10.120 oh
01:24:10.880 are we
01:24:11.300 in
01:24:11.460 Alabama
01:24:11.820 right
01:24:12.140 now
01:24:12.260 sensible
01:24:12.640 state
01:24:12.920 like
01:24:13.640 Alabama
01:24:14.120 I
01:24:14.400 mean
01:24:14.500 you
01:24:14.800 could
01:24:14.940 name
01:24:15.100 a
01:24:15.520 handful
01:24:15.880 of
01:24:16.100 others
01:24:16.380 really
01:24:17.180 sensible
01:24:17.700 states
01:24:18.220 can
01:24:18.840 go
01:24:19.040 in
01:24:19.160 and
01:24:19.280 say
01:24:19.420 no
01:24:19.660 Joe
01:24:19.880 Biden
01:24:20.140 no
01:24:20.380 Washington
01:24:20.840 D.C.
01:24:21.300 no
01:24:21.480 federal
01:24:21.780 bureaucrats
01:24:22.260 we're
01:24:22.420 not
01:24:22.620 going
01:24:22.720 to
01:24:22.800 put
01:24:22.920 up
01:24:23.060 with
01:24:23.200 that
01:24:23.360 I
01:24:23.720 think
01:24:23.880 as a
01:24:24.160 structural
01:24:24.500 matter
01:24:24.800 we've
01:24:25.260 got
01:24:25.440 to
01:24:25.560 do
01:24:25.700 it
01:24:25.840 and
01:24:26.000 Senator
01:24:26.360 I
01:24:26.900 would
01:24:27.060 say
01:24:27.320 don't
01:24:27.820 worry
01:24:28.100 I
01:24:28.420 think
01:24:28.580 Texas
01:24:28.920 is
01:24:29.100 still
01:24:29.240 going
01:24:29.360 to
01:24:29.400 be
01:24:29.520 sending
01:24:29.780 you
01:24:30.040 to
01:24:30.220 Washington
01:24:30.560 D.C.
01:24:31.080 So
01:24:31.420 and
01:24:31.600 look
01:24:31.800 I
01:24:32.100 think
01:24:32.280 you
01:24:32.380 make
01:24:32.540 a
01:24:32.640 very
01:24:32.780 good
01:24:32.960 point
01:24:33.240 Michael
01:24:33.580 and
01:24:33.780 I
01:24:34.060 would
01:24:34.280 say
01:24:34.620 as
01:24:34.840 an
01:24:34.940 historical
01:24:35.480 matter
01:24:35.980 and
01:24:36.240 theoretical
01:24:36.840 matter
01:24:37.520 I
01:24:37.720 think
01:24:37.880 what
01:24:38.020 you're
01:24:38.180 saying
01:24:38.420 is
01:24:38.580 very
01:24:38.800 powerful
01:24:39.280 that
01:24:39.560 the
01:24:39.760 17th
01:24:40.320 amendment
01:24:40.600 it
01:24:40.820 used
01:24:41.060 to
01:24:41.200 be
01:24:41.360 senators
01:24:41.760 were
01:24:42.000 selected
01:24:42.380 by
01:24:42.600 state
01:24:42.840 legislatures
01:24:43.520 when
01:24:44.420 state
01:24:44.720 legislatures
01:24:45.440 selected
01:24:46.440 senators
01:24:46.980 it
01:24:47.280 meant
01:24:47.520 that
01:24:47.700 senators
01:24:48.060 came
01:24:48.440 there
01:24:48.660 beholden
01:24:49.240 to
01:24:49.340 those
01:24:49.560 state
01:24:49.780 legislatures
01:24:50.460 and
01:24:50.600 they
01:24:50.700 were
01:24:50.800 not
01:24:51.000 very
01:24:51.300 eager
01:24:51.640 to
01:24:52.100 take
01:24:52.320 away
01:24:52.540 power
01:24:52.920 from
01:24:53.140 the
01:24:53.280 state
01:24:53.480 legislatures
01:24:54.160 because
01:24:54.360 they're
01:24:54.560 the
01:24:54.680 ones
01:24:54.900 that
01:24:55.040 gave
01:24:55.240 them
01:24:55.340 the
01:24:55.460 job
01:24:55.840 and
01:24:56.380 could
01:24:56.800 take
01:24:57.280 it
01:24:57.380 away
01:24:57.560 from
01:24:57.800 them
01:24:57.960 when
01:24:58.960 we
01:24:59.160 moved
01:24:59.540 to
01:24:59.660 direct
01:25:00.020 election
01:25:00.480 of
01:25:00.680 senators
01:25:01.080 it
01:25:01.340 weakened
01:25:01.960 that
01:25:02.480 very
01:25:02.780 important
01:25:03.340 structural
01:25:04.120 limitation
01:25:04.760 on
01:25:05.060 federal
01:25:05.320 power
01:25:05.760 that
01:25:06.420 very
01:25:06.700 important
01:25:07.100 element
01:25:07.400 of
01:25:07.640 federalism
01:25:08.500 the
01:25:09.160 reason
01:25:09.660 I
01:25:09.920 haven't
01:25:10.280 focused
01:25:10.680 on
01:25:10.960 repealing
01:25:11.340 the
01:25:11.520 17th
01:25:12.020 amendment
01:25:12.280 is
01:25:12.600 that
01:25:13.000 we
01:25:13.200 live
01:25:13.560 in
01:25:13.720 the
01:25:13.880 realm
01:25:14.180 of
01:25:14.360 the
01:25:14.480 politically
01:25:14.920 feasible
01:25:15.960 and
01:25:17.260 as a
01:25:17.860 practical
01:25:18.360 matter
01:25:18.780 I
01:25:19.020 think
01:25:19.280 it
01:25:19.440 is
01:25:19.620 next
01:25:19.940 to
01:25:20.160 impossible
01:25:20.760 to
01:25:21.120 convince
01:25:21.480 anyone
01:25:21.820 to
01:25:22.000 give
01:25:22.160 up
01:25:22.300 the
01:25:22.440 franchise
01:25:22.820 that
01:25:23.220 once
01:25:23.820 people
01:25:24.280 have
01:25:24.880 the
01:25:25.040 ability
01:25:25.340 to
01:25:25.500 vote
01:25:25.680 on
01:25:25.860 something
01:25:26.320 they're
01:25:26.960 not
01:25:27.200 going
01:25:27.380 to
01:25:27.480 likely
01:25:27.780 choose
01:25:28.300 to
01:25:28.500 give
01:25:28.660 up
01:25:28.840 that
01:25:29.040 ability
01:25:29.400 to
01:25:29.600 vote
01:25:29.780 on
01:25:29.940 it
01:25:30.040 which
01:25:30.260 is
01:25:30.480 why
01:25:30.980 as
01:25:32.100 a
01:25:32.240 theoretical
01:25:32.740 matter
01:25:33.280 you
01:25:33.500 might
01:25:33.720 be
01:25:33.860 right
01:25:34.100 in
01:25:34.180 the
01:25:34.280 abstract
01:25:34.720 but
01:25:35.560 I
01:25:35.720 think
01:25:35.960 term
01:25:36.280 limits
01:25:36.560 and
01:25:36.740 balanced
01:25:37.120 budget
01:25:37.600 are
01:25:38.300 actually
01:25:38.920 achievable
01:25:39.700 and can
01:25:40.120 get
01:25:40.340 done
01:25:40.820 whereas
01:25:41.160 repealing
01:25:41.620 the
01:25:41.800 17th
01:25:42.260 amendment
01:25:42.560 that's
01:25:43.780 never
01:25:43.960 going
01:25:44.120 to
01:25:44.140 happen
01:25:44.380 bit
01:25:44.560 of
01:25:44.660 a
01:25:44.760 pipe
01:25:44.960 dream
01:25:45.180 yep
01:25:45.400 I
01:25:45.560 think
01:25:45.740 you're
01:25:45.860 right
01:25:45.980 I
01:25:46.160 agree
01:25:46.320 thank
01:25:46.920 you
01:25:47.040 for
01:25:47.160 your
01:25:47.260 question
01:25:47.520 this
01:25:47.780 next
01:25:48.060 question
01:25:48.500 will
01:25:48.960 be
01:25:49.100 the
01:25:49.280 last
01:25:49.600 question
01:25:50.060 so
01:25:50.300 step
01:25:50.660 right
01:25:50.840 up
01:25:51.520 hi
01:25:55.920 what's
01:25:56.180 your
01:25:56.280 name
01:25:56.520 hi
01:25:57.540 my
01:25:57.720 name
01:25:57.880 is
01:25:58.020 Noah
01:25:58.220 this
01:25:59.480 question
01:25:59.840 is
01:26:00.080 primarily
01:26:00.420 for you
01:26:00.760 Mr.
01:26:01.040 Knowles
01:26:01.260 I
01:26:02.100 think
01:26:02.280 you
01:26:02.360 would
01:26:02.480 agree
01:26:02.720 that
01:26:02.900 the
01:26:03.040 U.S.
01:26:03.360 was
01:26:03.620 founded
01:26:04.000 on
01:26:04.300 Judeo-Christian
01:26:04.860 values
01:26:05.320 sure
01:26:06.400 yeah
01:26:06.720 given
01:26:08.000 at least
01:26:08.300 in my
01:26:08.620 experience
01:26:09.100 that
01:26:09.420 the
01:26:09.640 U.S.
01:26:10.040 especially
01:26:10.360 in younger
01:26:10.780 generations
01:26:11.300 seems to
01:26:11.820 be drifting
01:26:12.220 away
01:26:12.520 from
01:26:12.740 religion
01:26:13.060 maybe
01:26:13.360 that's
01:26:13.720 they
01:26:13.860 stop
01:26:14.140 practicing
01:26:14.680 they've
01:26:15.460 become
01:26:15.680 agnostic
01:26:16.200 or even
01:26:16.600 atheist
01:26:17.220 do you
01:26:18.000 think
01:26:18.220 it is
01:26:18.460 possible
01:26:18.840 for the
01:26:19.220 U.S.
01:26:19.540 to maintain
01:26:20.200 that set
01:26:20.700 of values
01:26:21.240 without
01:26:21.900 the
01:26:22.620 kind
01:26:22.920 of
01:26:23.040 core
01:26:23.440 base
01:26:24.020 that
01:26:24.460 they
01:26:24.540 were
01:26:24.700 founded
01:26:25.060 on
01:26:25.380 continuing
01:26:26.040 you've
01:26:28.140 got
01:26:28.420 to
01:26:28.680 practice
01:26:29.420 what
01:26:30.140 you
01:26:30.560 preach
01:26:31.020 or
01:26:31.360 you're
01:26:31.580 not
01:26:31.760 going
01:26:31.940 to
01:26:32.040 be
01:26:32.180 preaching
01:26:32.440 it
01:26:32.580 for
01:26:32.680 very
01:26:32.940 long
01:26:33.320 it's
01:26:33.560 not
01:26:33.980 going
01:26:34.220 to
01:26:34.380 last
01:26:34.680 very
01:26:34.940 long
01:26:35.180 previously
01:26:36.220 we
01:26:36.660 did
01:26:36.800 have
01:26:36.960 institutions
01:26:37.580 we
01:26:38.420 had
01:26:38.800 strong
01:26:39.320 families
01:26:39.740 we
01:26:40.140 had
01:26:40.380 traditions
01:26:40.900 that
01:26:41.560 were
01:26:41.720 able
01:26:41.940 to
01:26:42.160 withstand
01:26:42.780 some
01:26:44.200 wild
01:26:44.660 teenage
01:26:45.160 years
01:26:45.700 and
01:26:45.880 people
01:26:46.080 rebelling
01:26:46.480 against
01:26:46.840 that
01:26:47.160 the
01:26:47.800 social
01:26:48.100 structure
01:26:48.480 was
01:26:48.680 still
01:26:48.860 pretty
01:26:49.080 sound
01:26:49.580 and
01:26:50.080 sturdy
01:26:50.480 that
01:26:51.120 has
01:26:51.380 decayed
01:26:51.860 rapidly
01:26:52.260 and so
01:26:52.680 you've
01:26:52.840 seen
01:26:52.960 a rapid
01:26:53.520 spike
01:26:54.020 in
01:26:54.680 atheism
01:26:55.440 you've
01:26:55.720 seen
01:26:55.820 a rapid
01:26:56.240 spike
01:26:56.640 in
01:26:57.200 a loss
01:26:57.660 of
01:26:57.820 faith
01:26:58.040 in
01:26:58.160 America's
01:26:58.660 institutions
01:26:59.220 that's
01:27:00.140 a big
01:27:00.880 problem
01:27:01.420 part
01:27:02.940 of it
01:27:03.220 is
01:27:03.420 because
01:27:04.140 the
01:27:05.000 the
01:27:05.240 libs
01:27:05.540 want
01:27:05.860 to
01:27:06.220 destroy
01:27:06.900 anything
01:27:07.600 that
01:27:07.800 America
01:27:08.100 once
01:27:08.420 stood
01:27:08.620 for
01:27:08.840 and
01:27:08.960 make
01:27:09.140 America
01:27:09.520 into
01:27:09.740 some
01:27:10.020 merely
01:27:10.580 abstract
01:27:11.460 secular
01:27:12.960 utopia
01:27:13.480 and
01:27:14.200 unfortunately
01:27:14.760 a lot
01:27:15.240 of
01:27:15.380 conservatives
01:27:15.900 have
01:27:16.200 kind
01:27:16.540 of
01:27:16.680 gone
01:27:16.920 along
01:27:17.280 with
01:27:17.500 it
01:27:17.640 I
01:27:18.080 think
01:27:18.360 it's
01:27:18.540 important
01:27:18.920 to
01:27:19.140 remember
01:27:19.560 that
01:27:20.440 America
01:27:21.220 is the
01:27:21.660 freest
01:27:22.020 country
01:27:22.320 in the
01:27:22.520 history
01:27:22.740 of the
01:27:22.980 world
01:27:23.300 most
01:27:23.820 tolerant
01:27:24.120 country
01:27:24.460 in the
01:27:24.660 history
01:27:24.860 of the
01:27:25.080 world
01:27:25.280 the
01:27:25.540 most
01:27:25.720 attractive
01:27:26.140 country
01:27:26.500 in the
01:27:26.700 history
01:27:26.860 of the
01:27:27.060 world
01:27:27.240 we have
01:27:27.560 3
01:27:27.840 million
01:27:28.100 people
01:27:28.380 a
01:27:28.520 year
01:27:28.680 at
01:27:28.820 this
01:27:28.960 point
01:27:29.160 coming
01:27:29.380 to
01:27:29.500 this
01:27:29.660 country
01:27:30.000 largest
01:27:30.660 movement
01:27:31.040 of
01:27:31.600 human
01:27:31.840 beings
01:27:32.140 in
01:27:32.320 recorded
01:27:32.640 history
01:27:33.020 over the
01:27:33.320 past
01:27:33.500 60
01:27:33.780 years
01:27:34.040 have
01:27:34.420 come
01:27:34.660 into
01:27:34.820 the
01:27:34.960 United
01:27:35.220 States
01:27:35.580 so
01:27:36.020 obviously
01:27:36.660 America
01:27:37.560 is a
01:27:37.920 big
01:27:38.200 wide
01:27:38.620 open
01:27:38.920 tolerant
01:27:39.380 place
01:27:39.880 but
01:27:40.420 there
01:27:40.600 are
01:27:40.960 limits
01:27:41.540 the
01:27:41.980 declaration
01:27:42.940 of
01:27:43.420 independence
01:27:43.840 says
01:27:44.160 we hold
01:27:44.820 these
01:27:45.000 truths
01:27:45.260 to be
01:27:45.540 self
01:27:45.780 evident
01:27:46.040 that
01:27:46.440 all
01:27:46.620 men
01:27:46.740 are
01:27:46.860 created
01:27:47.060 equal
01:27:47.320 and
01:27:47.480 endowed
01:27:47.820 by their
01:27:48.120 creator
01:27:48.320 with
01:27:48.500 certain
01:27:48.760 unalienable
01:27:49.500 rights
01:27:49.980 if you
01:27:50.800 don't
01:27:51.100 believe
01:27:51.580 that
01:27:52.140 there
01:27:52.300 is
01:27:52.400 a
01:27:52.520 creator
01:27:52.920 who
01:27:53.220 has
01:27:53.380 endowed
01:27:53.700 us
01:27:53.860 with
01:27:54.040 certain
01:27:54.320 rights
01:27:54.780 then
01:27:55.540 you're
01:27:55.980 just
01:27:56.320 not
01:27:56.980 in
01:27:57.880 the
01:27:58.100 American
01:27:58.500 idea
01:27:58.960 you
01:27:59.280 are
01:27:59.840 rejecting
01:28:04.040 John Locke
01:28:05.240 father
01:28:06.120 of
01:28:06.360 liberalism
01:28:06.940 one
01:28:07.380 of
01:28:07.480 the
01:28:07.580 most
01:28:07.780 tolerant
01:28:08.300 liberal
01:28:08.580 minded
01:28:08.820 men
01:28:09.020 in
01:28:09.140 history
01:28:09.440 in
01:28:09.900 the
01:28:10.040 letter
01:28:10.300 concerning
01:28:10.780 toleration
01:28:11.520 John
01:28:12.180 Locke
01:28:12.420 said
01:28:12.580 we've
01:28:12.760 got
01:28:12.860 to
01:28:12.980 tolerate
01:28:13.280 everybody
01:28:13.800 except
01:28:14.300 for
01:28:14.540 atheists
01:28:15.060 because
01:28:15.300 those
01:28:15.540 guys
01:28:15.820 can't
01:28:16.080 be
01:28:16.200 trusted
01:28:16.540 at
01:28:16.740 all
01:28:17.100 you
01:28:17.600 have
01:28:18.000 John
01:28:18.360 Milton
01:28:23.160 in
01:28:23.440 the
01:28:23.560 most
01:28:24.680 famous
01:28:24.940 defense
01:28:25.300 of
01:28:25.420 free
01:28:25.600 speech
01:28:25.880 in
01:28:26.320 the
01:28:26.440 English
01:28:26.720 language
01:28:27.140 and
01:28:27.640 in
01:28:27.880 it
01:28:28.060 John
01:28:28.340 Milton
01:28:28.560 says
01:28:28.920 we need
01:28:29.380 free
01:28:29.580 speech
01:28:29.800 for
01:28:29.940 everybody
01:28:30.360 except
01:28:30.840 for
01:28:31.000 the
01:28:31.120 atheists
01:28:31.560 and
01:28:31.760 the
01:28:31.880 Catholics
01:28:32.320 now
01:28:32.780 look
01:28:33.020 I'm
01:28:33.260 glad
01:28:33.820 that
01:28:34.320 we've
01:28:34.540 gotten
01:28:34.780 rid
01:28:35.020 of
01:28:35.140 that
01:28:35.340 latter
01:28:35.660 one
01:28:36.080 but
01:28:36.820 otherwise
01:28:37.420 I
01:28:37.600 wouldn't
01:28:37.720 be
01:28:37.860 sitting
01:28:38.040 here
01:28:38.220 tonight
01:28:38.540 but
01:28:38.900 the
01:28:39.360 point
01:28:39.640 that
01:28:39.780 they're
01:28:39.920 both
01:28:40.140 making
01:28:40.520 is
01:28:41.080 that
01:28:41.420 political
01:28:42.060 communities
01:28:42.700 do
01:28:43.060 require
01:28:43.520 limits
01:28:43.900 we
01:28:44.300 have
01:28:44.560 to
01:28:44.720 agree
01:28:45.060 on
01:28:45.300 certain
01:28:45.620 things
01:28:46.000 it's
01:28:46.480 become
01:28:46.680 very
01:28:46.940 fashionable
01:28:47.420 since
01:28:48.200 the
01:28:48.380 early
01:28:48.600 1990s
01:28:49.420 it's
01:28:49.560 actually
01:28:49.760 a line
01:28:50.040 from
01:28:50.220 former
01:28:50.780 vice
01:28:51.000 president
01:28:51.260 Dan
01:28:51.620 Quayle
01:28:52.060 to
01:28:52.420 say
01:28:52.600 that
01:28:52.780 diversity
01:28:53.420 is
01:28:53.800 our
01:28:53.980 strength
01:28:54.540 by
01:28:54.980 which
01:28:55.240 is
01:28:55.420 meant
01:28:55.700 we
01:28:56.500 don't
01:28:56.700 hate
01:28:56.900 people
01:28:57.180 based
01:28:57.440 on
01:28:57.600 their
01:28:57.740 race
01:28:58.020 or
01:28:58.140 their
01:28:58.260 background
01:28:58.600 but
01:28:59.240 unity
01:29:00.540 is
01:29:00.800 our
01:29:00.940 strength
01:29:01.300 as
01:29:01.480 well
01:29:01.740 the
01:29:01.920 idea
01:29:02.180 that
01:29:02.300 we
01:29:02.400 can
01:29:02.520 all
01:29:02.680 come
01:29:02.860 together
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01:29:03.340 various
01:29:03.660 backgrounds
01:29:04.080 and agree
01:29:04.760 on
01:29:04.980 certain
01:29:05.220 things
01:29:05.540 and speak
01:29:06.120 the
01:29:06.300 same
01:29:06.480 language
01:29:06.880 and have
01:29:07.940 shared
01:29:08.240 customs
01:29:08.680 and have
01:29:09.280 real
01:29:09.560 borders
01:29:09.960 and have
01:29:10.640 a
01:29:10.920 community
01:29:11.380 and
01:29:11.780 so
01:29:12.260 we
01:29:12.800 need
01:29:12.980 to
01:29:13.100 get
01:29:13.260 back
01:29:13.560 to
01:29:13.700 that
01:29:13.820 we
01:29:13.960 need
01:29:14.080 to
01:29:14.140 get
01:29:14.260 back
01:29:14.540 to
01:29:14.700 an
01:29:14.840 idea
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01:29:15.920 out
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01:29:16.400 many
01:29:16.740 there
01:29:17.600 is
01:29:17.760 one
01:29:18.200 there
01:29:25.420 merely
01:29:25.640 to
01:29:25.800 look
01:29:25.940 at
01:29:26.060 politics
01:29:26.480 as
01:29:26.660 a
01:29:26.760 matter
01:29:26.940 of
01:29:27.100 rights
01:29:27.360 and
01:29:27.480 entitlement
01:29:27.920 but
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01:29:28.480 a
01:29:28.580 matter
01:29:28.760 of
01:29:28.940 duty
01:29:29.180 and
01:29:29.300 obligation
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01:29:30.000 our
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01:29:30.420 citizens
01:29:30.880 and
01:29:31.400 to
01:29:31.800 our
01:29:31.980 country
01:29:32.320 if
01:29:32.720 we
01:29:32.860 can
01:29:33.020 return
01:29:33.400 to
01:29:33.600 that
01:29:33.920 even
01:29:34.400 if
01:29:34.580 we're
01:29:34.720 not
01:29:35.040 totally
01:29:35.860 up
01:29:36.300 on
01:29:36.560 the
01:29:36.800 theological
01:29:37.660 points
01:29:38.360 that
01:29:38.560 the
01:29:38.700 founding
01:29:38.900 fathers
01:29:39.280 might
01:29:39.540 have
01:29:39.660 believed
01:29:39.980 in
01:29:40.200 I
01:29:40.560 think
01:29:40.800 that
01:29:40.920 there
01:29:41.060 is
01:29:41.180 a
01:29:41.420 good
01:29:41.620 chance
01:29:42.060 that
01:29:42.500 in
01:29:42.660 practice
01:29:43.100 we'll
01:29:43.420 be
01:29:43.540 able
01:29:43.700 to
01:29:43.840 recover
01:29:44.140 something
01:29:44.500 like
01:29:44.840 the
01:29:45.180 traditional
01:29:45.560 American
01:29:55.420 on
01:29:55.820 Judeo-Christian
01:29:56.580 traditions
01:29:57.300 I
01:29:58.540 think
01:29:58.720 we're
01:29:58.880 a
01:29:59.000 pluralistic
01:30:00.060 nation
01:30:00.460 so
01:30:00.880 we
01:30:01.220 welcome
01:30:01.780 people
01:30:02.160 from
01:30:02.580 multiple
01:30:03.220 different
01:30:03.600 faith
01:30:03.880 traditions
01:30:04.360 but
01:30:04.680 you're
01:30:04.920 right
01:30:05.200 means
01:30:06.540 out of
01:30:07.240 many
01:30:07.520 one
01:30:07.860 that
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01:30:08.540 together
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01:30:09.120 be
01:30:09.260 one
01:30:09.500 America
01:30:10.000 and
01:30:10.820 I
01:30:11.320 will
01:30:11.540 say
01:30:12.080 that
01:30:12.400 those
01:30:14.300 who
01:30:14.680 believe
01:30:15.100 in
01:30:15.280 unlimited
01:30:15.660 power
01:30:16.160 are
01:30:17.620 inherently
01:30:18.600 hostile
01:30:19.440 to
01:30:20.320 faith
01:30:20.640 you
01:30:22.240 can
01:30:22.400 look
01:30:22.620 at
01:30:22.760 this
01:30:22.980 in
01:30:23.160 totalitarian
01:30:23.860 regimes
01:30:24.380 across
01:30:24.760 the
01:30:24.940 globe
01:30:25.200 you
01:30:25.400 can
01:30:25.540 look
01:30:25.740 at
01:30:25.900 this
01:30:26.200 in
01:30:26.840 China
01:30:27.260 where
01:30:27.620 Mao
01:30:28.320 would
01:30:28.580 drive
01:30:29.120 nails
01:30:30.100 into
01:30:30.360 the
01:30:30.560 eyes
01:30:30.840 of
01:30:31.000 Christians
01:30:31.420 you
01:30:31.780 can
01:30:32.300 look
01:30:32.540 at
01:30:32.700 this
01:30:32.920 in
01:30:33.020 the
01:30:33.140 Soviet
01:30:33.480 Union
01:30:33.820 I
01:30:34.000 can
01:30:34.120 tell
01:30:34.320 you
01:30:34.420 in
01:30:34.580 Cuba
01:30:34.920 so
01:30:36.780 my
01:30:37.000 grandmother
01:30:37.520 my
01:30:38.560 father
01:30:38.880 was
01:30:39.080 born
01:30:39.260 in
01:30:39.440 Cuba
01:30:39.680 raised
01:30:40.680 in
01:30:40.880 Cuba
01:30:41.140 but
01:30:41.360 my
01:30:41.540 grandmother
01:30:41.940 was
01:30:42.140 a
01:30:42.240 school
01:30:42.380 teacher
01:30:42.620 in
01:30:42.800 Cuba
01:30:42.980 she
01:30:43.140 was
01:30:43.280 a
01:30:43.380 sixth
01:30:43.560 grade
01:30:43.780 teacher
01:30:44.080 in
01:30:44.260 Cuba
01:30:44.500 and
01:30:45.660 when
01:30:45.880 Castro
01:30:46.440 took
01:30:46.780 over
01:30:47.140 a
01:30:48.260 story
01:30:48.660 my
01:30:48.860 grandmother
01:30:49.200 told
01:30:49.580 me
01:30:49.780 is
01:30:49.960 that
01:30:55.200 and
01:30:55.560 tell
01:30:55.820 all
01:30:56.220 the
01:30:56.440 children
01:30:56.800 there
01:30:57.180 they
01:30:58.220 say
01:30:58.520 okay
01:30:58.860 close
01:30:59.360 your
01:30:59.580 eyes
01:31:00.080 and
01:31:00.940 pray
01:31:01.200 to
01:31:01.360 God
01:31:01.720 and
01:31:02.880 ask
01:31:03.380 God
01:31:03.820 for
01:31:04.080 candy
01:31:04.480 and
01:31:05.600 all
01:31:05.740 the
01:31:05.840 little
01:31:06.020 kids
01:31:06.300 would
01:31:06.440 close
01:31:06.720 their
01:31:06.900 eyes
01:31:07.180 and
01:31:07.300 they
01:31:07.400 would
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01:31:08.160 their
01:31:08.340 eyes
01:31:08.700 and
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01:31:09.520 no
01:31:09.660 candy
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01:31:11.120 then
01:31:11.240 the
01:31:11.400 soldiers
01:31:11.740 would
01:31:12.000 say
01:31:12.180 okay
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01:31:13.080 close
01:31:13.500 your
01:31:13.720 eyes
01:31:14.180 and
01:31:15.040 pray
01:31:15.500 to
01:31:15.740 Fidel
01:31:16.060 Castro
01:31:16.620 for
01:31:17.840 candy
01:31:18.180 and
01:31:19.340 they
01:31:19.460 close
01:31:19.800 their
01:31:19.980 eyes
01:31:20.240 and
01:31:20.380 the
01:31:20.500 soldiers
01:31:20.840 would
01:31:21.040 put
01:31:21.200 candy
01:31:21.540 on
01:31:21.660 the
01:31:21.780 desks
01:31:22.040 of
01:31:22.160 every
01:31:22.320 child
01:31:22.660 and
01:31:24.180 if
01:31:25.120 you
01:31:25.460 believe
01:31:25.900 in
01:31:26.180 the
01:31:26.300 totalitarian
01:31:27.000 state
01:31:27.600 you
01:31:28.720 don't
01:31:29.060 want
01:31:29.520 anyone
01:31:30.180 to have
01:31:30.820 a loyalty
01:31:31.560 to
01:31:31.920 anything
01:31:32.580 above
01:31:33.040 the
01:31:33.280 state
01:31:33.580 that
01:31:33.780 means
01:31:34.020 a loyalty
01:31:34.400 to
01:31:34.620 God
01:31:35.040 that
01:31:35.460 means
01:31:35.660 a loyalty
01:31:36.100 to
01:31:36.360 family
01:31:36.860 that
01:31:37.480 means
01:31:37.940 a loyalty
01:31:38.420 to
01:31:38.680 anything
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01:31:39.720 than
01:31:40.100 the
01:31:40.300 all
01:31:40.820 powerful
01:31:41.300 government
01:31:41.760 and
01:31:41.960 so
01:31:42.160 I
01:31:42.380 think
01:31:42.640 you
01:31:44.180 know
01:31:44.260 I
01:31:44.400 can
01:31:44.580 say
01:31:44.880 as
01:31:45.060 a
01:31:45.400 parent
01:31:45.940 all
01:31:47.760 of
01:31:47.880 us
01:31:48.040 make
01:31:48.280 our
01:31:48.460 own
01:31:48.700 faith
01:31:49.060 decisions
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01:31:50.060 what
01:31:50.580 I
01:31:50.840 urge
01:31:51.280 my
01:31:51.800 children
01:31:52.300 is
01:31:53.400 that
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01:31:53.800 life
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01:31:54.380 much
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01:31:55.980 much
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01:31:58.880 Christian
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01:32:01.140 a
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01:32:01.720 relationship
01:32:02.320 with
01:32:02.600 Jesus
01:32:02.860 Christ
01:32:03.360 that
01:32:03.900 gives
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01:32:06.480 a
01:32:06.740 strength
01:32:07.280 and
01:32:07.500 a
01:32:07.700 comfort
01:32:08.240 and
01:32:09.000 a
01:32:09.140 peace
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01:32:10.740 withstand
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01:32:12.000 travails
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01:32:12.980 day
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01:32:13.320 day
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01:32:14.520 as
01:32:15.020 our
01:32:15.280 nation
01:32:15.920 becomes
01:32:16.780 more
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01:32:18.860 more
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01:32:20.060 rejection
01:32:21.060 faith
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01:32:25.560 descent
01:32:26.320 a
01:32:27.740 loss
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01:32:28.680 family
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01:32:33.260 family
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01:32:34.760 a
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01:32:35.480 of
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01:32:36.580 look
01:32:36.840 at
01:32:37.040 inner
01:32:37.760 cities
01:32:38.220 and
01:32:38.520 many
01:32:39.300 of
01:32:39.500 the
01:32:39.640 challenges
01:32:40.160 that
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01:32:43.700 fathers
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01:32:44.380 a
01:32:44.980 big
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01:32:47.860 a
01:32:49.020 strong
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01:32:55.300 and
01:32:55.580 fathers
01:32:55.940 together
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01:32:56.660 raise
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01:32:58.460 build
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01:33:01.980 churches
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01:33:03.680 part
01:33:06.380 of
01:33:06.620 what
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01:33:07.060 made
01:33:07.340 America
01:33:07.860 so
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01:33:10.040 I
01:33:10.160 think
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01:33:10.640 of
01:33:10.760 the
01:33:10.900 reasons
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01:33:18.080 about
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01:33:20.800 environment
01:33:21.380 for
01:33:21.660 some
01:33:22.040 the
01:33:22.220 environment
01:33:22.720 is
01:33:22.980 their
01:33:23.120 new
01:33:23.320 religion
01:33:23.800 for
01:33:24.380 others
01:33:24.760 it
01:33:25.100 is
01:33:25.340 stopping
01:33:25.860 the
01:33:26.180 evils
01:33:26.560 of
01:33:26.720 Trumpism
01:33:27.360 but
01:33:28.020 it
01:33:28.140 is
01:33:28.400 with
01:33:28.640 the
01:33:28.860 same
01:33:29.580 zealotry
01:33:30.500 that
01:33:31.480 for
01:33:31.720 millennia
01:33:32.340 people
01:33:32.760 approached
01:33:33.260 faith
01:33:33.840 that
01:33:34.520 now
01:33:35.020 the
01:33:35.280 hard
01:33:35.740 left
01:33:36.380 approaches
01:33:37.460 anyone
01:33:38.100 who
01:33:38.340 disagrees
01:33:38.900 well
01:33:39.160 this
01:33:39.360 is
01:33:39.580 as
01:33:39.880 the
01:33:40.160 political
01:33:40.740 philosopher
01:33:41.260 Bob
01:33:41.860 Dylan
01:33:42.160 put
01:33:42.520 it
01:33:42.700 everybody
01:33:43.580 has
01:33:43.940 got
01:33:44.140 to
01:33:44.300 serve
01:33:44.600 somebody
01:33:45.100 and
01:33:45.280 so
01:33:45.440 man
01:33:45.680 as
01:33:45.820 a
01:33:45.940 religious
01:33:46.220 being
01:33:46.600 we
01:33:46.980 have
01:33:47.200 these
01:33:47.420 longings
01:33:47.840 we
01:33:47.980 have
01:33:48.080 an
01:33:48.180 intuition
01:33:48.580 that
01:33:49.280 there's
01:33:49.620 something
01:33:49.860 beyond
01:33:50.200 this
01:33:50.420 world
01:33:50.780 we
01:33:51.160 have
01:33:51.280 an
01:33:51.380 intuition
01:33:51.760 that
01:33:52.060 there's
01:33:52.280 such
01:33:52.440 a
01:33:52.560 thing
01:33:52.720 as
01:33:52.940 say
01:33:53.140 morality
01:33:53.560 it's
01:33:54.140 better
01:33:54.360 to
01:33:54.560 feed
01:33:54.760 a
01:33:54.880 baby
01:33:55.140 than
01:33:55.340 to
01:33:55.480 kick
01:33:55.640 a
01:33:55.780 puppy
01:33:56.040 if
01:33:56.460 that's
01:33:57.040 true
01:33:57.300 then
01:33:57.520 that
01:33:57.680 means
01:33:57.920 there
01:33:58.120 is
01:33:58.340 a
01:33:58.520 good
01:33:58.740 and
01:33:58.860 a
01:33:58.940 bad
01:33:59.280 and
01:33:59.640 an
01:33:59.740 ultimate
01:33:59.980 good
01:34:00.260 so
01:34:00.640 we
01:34:00.820 have
01:34:01.080 that
01:34:01.280 longing
01:34:01.640 and
01:34:02.200 either
01:34:02.880 we're
01:34:03.120 going
01:34:03.280 to
01:34:03.440 order
01:34:03.720 that
01:34:04.020 toward
01:34:04.420 God
01:34:05.100 the
01:34:05.480 true
01:34:05.720 source
01:34:06.020 of
01:34:06.180 goodness
01:34:06.440 the
01:34:06.640 true
01:34:06.800 source
01:34:07.040 of
01:34:07.160 being
01:34:07.440 or
01:34:07.980 we're
01:34:08.180 going
01:34:08.280 to
01:34:08.360 order
01:34:08.600 it
01:34:08.780 toward
01:34:09.040 whatever
01:34:09.360 the
01:34:09.580 idol
01:34:09.900 of
01:34:10.140 the
01:34:10.260 day
01:34:10.480 is
01:34:10.780 and
01:34:11.520 things
01:34:11.740 don't
01:34:11.920 go
01:34:12.060 very
01:34:12.340 well
01:34:12.580 when
01:34:12.740 you
01:34:12.860 worship
01:34:13.140 idols
01:34:13.500 it
01:34:13.760 didn't
01:34:13.980 work
01:34:14.180 out
01:34:14.320 very
01:34:14.480 well
01:34:14.660 for
01:34:14.800 other
01:34:14.960 civilizations
01:34:15.560 and
01:34:15.920 when
01:34:16.700 John
01:34:17.140 Adams
01:34:17.380 says
01:34:17.620 the
01:34:17.760 Constitution
01:34:18.220 is
01:34:18.440 built
01:34:18.600 for
01:34:18.760 moral
01:34:19.060 and
01:34:19.220 religious
01:34:19.520 people
01:34:19.940 he's
01:34:20.460 not
01:34:20.620 being
01:34:20.840 a
01:34:20.980 bible
01:34:21.300 thumper
01:34:21.740 okay
01:34:22.000 John
01:34:22.300 Adams
01:34:22.540 was
01:34:22.740 far
01:34:22.980 from
01:34:23.160 a
01:34:23.300 bible
01:34:23.540 thumper
01:34:23.860 okay
01:34:24.140 he's
01:34:24.560 observing
01:34:24.960 a
01:34:25.160 political
01:34:25.460 fact
01:34:26.000 if
01:34:26.680 the
01:34:26.980 country
01:34:27.780 strays
01:34:28.700 from
01:34:29.080 what
01:34:29.380 is
01:34:29.500 good
01:34:29.760 and
01:34:29.920 true
01:34:30.100 and
01:34:30.240 beautiful
01:34:30.560 then
01:34:31.080 we're
01:34:31.240 going
01:34:31.360 to
01:34:31.380 have
01:34:31.500 a
01:34:31.600 country
01:34:31.920 that
01:34:32.200 is
01:34:32.340 bad
01:34:32.820 and
01:34:33.300 false
01:34:33.700 and
01:34:33.940 wicked
01:34:34.180 and
01:34:34.600 I
01:34:34.760 don't
01:34:34.900 think
01:34:35.080 anybody
01:34:35.320 wants
01:34:35.620 that
01:34:35.840 all right
01:34:40.160 is that
01:34:40.460 our show
01:34:40.940 so
01:34:42.540 thank you
01:34:44.040 so much
01:34:44.320 for being
01:34:44.560 here
01:34:44.680 it's
01:34:44.860 such a
01:34:45.220 great
01:34:45.520 pleasure
01:34:45.860 to be
01:34:46.640 breathing
01:34:46.960 the sweet
01:34:47.440 air
01:34:47.620 of freedom
01:34:48.040 not only
01:34:48.680 because we
01:34:48.900 can take
01:34:49.160 those stupid
01:34:49.620 masks off
01:34:50.220 but because
01:34:50.700 we're here
01:34:51.120 in Alabama
01:34:51.660 thank you
01:34:52.500 so much
01:34:53.020 to everyone
01:34:53.460 and Michael
01:34:54.260 before we
01:34:54.860 go
01:34:55.180 I need to
01:34:56.340 say something
01:34:56.960 that is going
01:34:57.540 to get me
01:34:57.920 in trouble
01:34:58.360 with every
01:34:58.880 Longhorn
01:34:59.460 every Aggie
01:35:00.340 every resident
01:35:01.580 of the state
01:35:02.200 of Texas
01:35:02.720 which is
01:35:03.820 roll time
01:35:04.840 and it's great
01:35:06.040 to be here
01:35:06.680 God bless you guys
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