Verdict with Ted Cruz - March 22, 2023


Three HUGE Victories: Dems Run Away from Trump Indictment, Newsmax BACK ON AIR, & Unqualified FAA Nominee Likely to be Withdrawn


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Sen. Ted Cruz reacts to the news that a grand jury investigation into Donald Trump may not be as grand jury related as initially reported, and the timing of a possible indictment of Donald Trump has been called into question. Cruz and Sen. Ben Ferguson discuss the implications of the news and the reaction from the New York DA's office.

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.720 Welcome.
00:00:06.500 It is The Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
00:00:08.580 Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.960 Senator, we're sitting here Wednesday midday
00:00:12.400 and we were waiting to see what was going to happen
00:00:14.940 with the big news on Donald Trump.
00:00:17.340 As he said, he was going to get arrested on Tuesday.
00:00:19.960 That time frame has now changed
00:00:21.760 and it looks like Democrats may be getting cold feet.
00:00:25.260 Fox News announced it this way.
00:00:26.940 We begin America reports with a developing story.
00:00:32.000 Grand jury proceedings in the hush money case
00:00:34.340 against former President Trump canceled for today.
00:00:37.560 This is we await news on a possible indictment.
00:00:41.440 Now, Senator, this obviously was a shock moment
00:00:45.120 for many that were expecting an indictment.
00:00:47.380 But if you listen to the news,
00:00:50.680 and I'm talking about the liberals out there,
00:00:52.540 they were campaigning for this.
00:00:54.500 Van Jones actually went on TV, on CNN, last night
00:00:59.780 and was pretty much making a public plea
00:01:02.800 to this activist DA,
00:01:04.900 do not do this.
00:01:06.380 This is a bad move.
00:01:07.640 It will actually hurt Democrats more than anybody else.
00:01:10.900 Here's how he put it on CNN.
00:01:12.560 Oh, if anybody is a Republican
00:01:14.580 and they have been afraid that there's some conspiracy,
00:01:18.020 some well-organized conspiracy among progressives,
00:01:20.380 they can relax now because you would not start with this charge.
00:01:25.680 You would start with the charge in Georgia
00:01:27.360 where he was interfering with elections.
00:01:29.380 You would start with the charge that he was helping the insurrectionists in a coup.
00:01:32.500 You wouldn't start with an eight-year-old porn star payoff.
00:01:36.280 So, again, this is proof, if nothing else,
00:01:40.500 that the progressives are not very well organized.
00:01:42.760 This is not the one you would start with.
00:01:44.540 That said, I hear my conservative friends saying,
00:01:47.300 they're being overcharged.
00:01:48.940 It's so aggressive.
00:01:50.220 It's so terrible.
00:01:51.380 Welcome to my world, folks.
00:01:55.000 Prosecutors overcharging, being overaggressive, 0.55
00:01:57.700 being ridiculous with minor stuff and turning it into major stuff
00:02:00.580 happens every single day in America, 0.93
00:02:03.120 every courthouse in America.
00:02:04.820 I think you want to be consistent now.
00:02:06.480 If you're concerned that this particular person named Donald Trump
00:02:09.460 is being overcharged and mistreated by a prosecutor,
00:02:11.920 join the rest of us who are trying to stop that from happening to ordinary people.
00:02:15.220 But my view about this is,
00:02:17.300 I think that the heat is on this DA.
00:02:21.160 I think he's going to make a very sober decision,
00:02:23.760 and I would not be surprised if he doesn't step back from the brink.
00:02:26.900 Doesn't step back from the brink.
00:02:28.320 Senator, I've never seen a Democratic operative go on national TV
00:02:31.940 speaking directly to a DA saying,
00:02:34.900 don't do this in this way.
00:02:36.720 Well, you're right, and I think this is a big deal. 0.99
00:02:39.260 Number one, this potential indictment is garbage. 0.96
00:02:43.340 It is legally frivolous. 1.00
00:02:44.480 It is baseless.
00:02:45.900 It is pure partisan hatred.
00:02:48.580 It is the weaponization of our legal system, of our justice system.
00:02:52.740 I would encourage everyone,
00:02:54.400 if you didn't listen to Monday's podcast,
00:02:56.780 you should go back and listen to it.
00:02:58.940 The entire podcast on Monday,
00:03:01.420 we went through chapter and verse,
00:03:04.080 the detailed reasons why this prosecution is utterly baseless.
00:03:08.740 We walked through the statutes under which the New York DA is looking at Donald Trump
00:03:14.000 and the reasons why neither the facts nor law remotely support it.
00:03:17.980 It's important to understand what's happening here.
00:03:20.320 You won't get it from watching the news.
00:03:22.480 Monday's podcast will walk you through and give you that information.
00:03:25.300 What is striking, though,
00:03:28.080 is ever since it became public
00:03:30.020 that an arrest and indictment of Trump was imminent,
00:03:34.160 we've seen Democrats freaking out.
00:03:36.940 And I got to say,
00:03:38.560 the attitude of many Democrats right now is remarkable.
00:03:44.240 It frankly, it reminds me of Monty Python.
00:03:47.600 And here's the Democrats' response today.
00:03:58.380 I mean, Senator, I love that part of the movie.
00:04:01.580 And it's so accurate to the Democrats.
00:04:03.500 They're literally screaming at this DA,
00:04:06.420 do not do this, 0.98
00:04:07.780 do not give this gift of a ridiculous indictment to Donald Trump 0.98
00:04:12.000 and turn him into a martyr, 0.99
00:04:13.560 literally run away.
00:04:15.220 Yeah, look, that is certainly the reaction of a lot of Democrats.
00:04:20.500 You and I observed on Monday's podcast
00:04:23.040 that if they go ahead with this arrest and this indictment,
00:04:26.600 when the case is blown out of the water in court,
00:04:29.980 which it will be,
00:04:31.240 that the effect, ironically,
00:04:33.100 will be a massive backfire
00:04:34.960 where this left-wing George Soros-funded DA
00:04:37.700 may well have played a pivotal role
00:04:41.020 in re-electing Donald Trump
00:04:42.820 as president of the United States.
00:04:44.100 And I think a whole lot of Democrats
00:04:45.360 are realizing this and going, 0.99
00:04:47.540 holy crap, we hate the guy, 1.00
00:04:49.520 but this is really dumb. 1.00
00:04:51.300 And we'll see if Bragg actually runs away. 0.92
00:04:55.800 So the reason we don't have news today,
00:04:58.360 look, we had anticipated,
00:05:00.160 based on what was publicly said,
00:05:01.740 that there would be an indictment this morning.
00:05:05.620 And what happened instead is Alvin Bragg
00:05:08.680 told the grand jury, stay home.
00:05:10.900 Don't come in today.
00:05:12.380 I got to get you to put your lawyer hat on, Senator, here.
00:05:14.620 For people that don't understand
00:05:16.680 or maybe have never been in a court
00:05:18.760 with a grand jury or dealt with this,
00:05:21.060 how abnormal is this?
00:05:23.520 What is happening behind the scenes?
00:05:25.580 How does this work when you tell a grand jury to stay home?
00:05:27.940 And why does that usually happen?
00:05:29.900 Yeah, look, there are two types of juries
00:05:31.920 in our criminal justice system.
00:05:33.260 There's a grand jury and a pettit jury.
00:05:35.700 A grand jury occurs before the trial.
00:05:38.420 And a grand jury consists of citizens from the community
00:05:43.000 who are impaneled for an extended period of time.
00:05:46.740 And the prosecutor will go and present evidence
00:05:49.540 to the grand jury seeking an indictment.
00:05:51.980 And the prosecutor does that
00:05:53.520 without the defense attorney present.
00:05:55.680 So it's a one-sided presentation.
00:05:57.320 And it's the prosecutor presenting evidence to say,
00:06:01.200 is this enough to charge the defendant
00:06:03.780 with whatever crime they're trying to indict him on?
00:06:06.560 The prosecutor has enormous leeway with the grand jury.
00:06:10.820 There's an old line that is repeated a gazillion times,
00:06:14.040 which is a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich.
00:06:16.480 And part of the reason is the ham sandwich doesn't get a lawyer.
00:06:19.140 So it's the prosecutor is alone with the grand jury.
00:06:23.160 In this instance, the reason that the Manhattan DA
00:06:26.320 would have told the grand jury, stay home, don't come in today,
00:06:29.580 is that Alvin Bragg made the decision.
00:06:32.980 He didn't want to indict Donald Trump today.
00:06:35.500 Now, at least according to public reporting,
00:06:38.380 they are coming in tomorrow on Thursday.
00:06:40.360 So we may have a podcast coming up
00:06:43.340 where we have different news to report.
00:06:45.920 The fact that he hit pause
00:06:47.520 does not necessarily mean that Bragg is hitting stop.
00:06:51.460 And you have to assume that Bragg,
00:06:53.800 like every other Democrat, has Trump derangement syndrome.
00:06:56.440 They hate him so much, he may not be able to stop.
00:06:59.860 But I will say, look,
00:07:02.180 I think the American people generally
00:07:04.780 are not terribly interested in obsessing
00:07:10.560 on the personal misconduct
00:07:13.600 and the sex lives of politicians. 0.87
00:07:16.660 We famously had Bill Clinton and his impeachment.
00:07:20.380 And I think one of the reasons
00:07:21.520 why Bill Clinton survived all of that
00:07:23.620 is the American people,
00:07:24.920 they certainly didn't admire Bill Clinton's conduct,
00:07:27.920 but at the end of the day,
00:07:29.160 they were much more interested
00:07:30.660 and focused on official corruption
00:07:32.520 rather than the personal failings
00:07:35.420 that Bill Clinton may have had.
00:07:37.440 We've sadly seen politicians from both parties
00:07:40.480 have serious moral failings
00:07:43.660 and sexual improprieties.
00:07:46.100 But I do think a lot of Democrats
00:07:47.920 are pretty dismayed
00:07:50.960 that their opening salvo
00:07:53.020 of the criminal justice system
00:07:54.660 is focused on an alleged affair with a porn star.
00:07:59.460 I think a lot of the voters,
00:08:01.760 they knew about this already.
00:08:03.820 They knew about this at the time
00:08:06.040 and they made their decisions
00:08:07.260 on whom to vote for
00:08:09.600 based on what policies would impact
00:08:12.060 their lives and their families.
00:08:14.140 And so I hope Bragg actually listens
00:08:17.420 to the Democrats who are freaking out.
00:08:20.160 And by the way,
00:08:20.780 I hope the other prosecutors,
00:08:22.180 I hope Merrick Garland,
00:08:23.980 who the Department of Justice prosecution
00:08:26.040 is potentially far more dangerous.
00:08:28.260 We've talked at length
00:08:29.340 about how I believe Merrick Garland
00:08:30.900 for the same reason Alvin Bragg
00:08:32.980 wants to indict and prosecute Trump.
00:08:35.400 Merrick Garland does too.
00:08:37.060 I hope all of these prosecutors
00:08:39.060 engaged in partisan justice
00:08:41.400 stop and just do their jobs.
00:08:44.680 The threshold for indicting a president
00:08:47.020 has never happened
00:08:47.740 in the history of our country.
00:08:49.200 The threshold should be high.
00:08:52.800 It should be meaningful.
00:08:54.140 It should not be some ticky-tack.
00:08:56.480 Explain why, because some people
00:08:58.440 may not understand the reason
00:08:59.500 why we've had such a threshold.
00:09:00.900 I mean, you go back to even Nixon
00:09:02.120 when he left the presidency.
00:09:04.540 The reason why is the man
00:09:07.240 who came into that position of power
00:09:09.000 to become the president
00:09:10.080 basically pardoned him completely
00:09:13.000 was he said,
00:09:13.980 it's not good for the country.
00:09:15.960 We don't want to be going after 0.93
00:09:18.660 political leaders,
00:09:19.680 especially a former president,
00:09:20.900 and turn us into a third world country 0.98
00:09:23.700 where you send people into exile
00:09:25.660 and you arrest former leaders
00:09:27.140 when other people win elections,
00:09:28.540 and so be it if it hurts me,
00:09:30.880 but it's for the good of the country.
00:09:32.880 Well, that's exactly right,
00:09:34.740 and Stalin famously said,
00:09:36.700 show me the man
00:09:37.300 and I'll show you the crime.
00:09:40.240 Prosecutors have a lot of discretion.
00:09:41.940 Prosecutors have a lot of authority.
00:09:44.100 If you unleash a team of prosecutors
00:09:46.800 on anybody,
00:09:48.660 I had a bunch of reporters yesterday
00:09:50.240 asking me about that.
00:09:51.380 You know, well, don't you think it's good
00:09:53.140 we're investigating
00:09:53.860 if Trump's committed a crime?
00:09:55.480 I said, look,
00:09:55.980 if we investigated
00:09:56.880 descended prosecutors on you,
00:09:59.040 I'm certain we'd find
00:10:00.080 you've committed a crime.
00:10:01.420 You may have this morning
00:10:02.880 driving to work.
00:10:03.900 You probably sped.
00:10:05.640 Like, at some level,
00:10:08.660 the criminal justice system
00:10:10.200 is meant to work for serious crimes
00:10:12.860 where there's real injury,
00:10:14.460 where there's real victims.
00:10:16.020 Now, that's true
00:10:16.760 whether it's a violent crime
00:10:18.220 or whether it's a crime of corruption.
00:10:19.840 Look, the evidence
00:10:21.960 about the Biden family corruption
00:10:24.000 making millions of dollars
00:10:26.320 selling access
00:10:27.800 and selling government policies,
00:10:30.680 whether it is to Burisma,
00:10:32.360 the Ukrainian natural gas company,
00:10:34.100 or whether it is
00:10:34.940 to the Chinese Communist Party,
00:10:37.440 those are serious
00:10:38.540 and real questions
00:10:39.620 of public policy and corruption.
00:10:42.820 But, you know,
00:10:44.260 you talked about
00:10:44.920 third world countries.
00:10:45.940 Listen, sadly,
00:10:46.580 a lot of countries in the world
00:10:47.780 have a history of
00:10:49.340 one administration,
00:10:51.140 one party will be in power,
00:10:52.520 then the next party
00:10:53.500 gets in power,
00:10:54.260 and one of the first things
00:10:55.120 they do is lock up
00:10:56.460 their predecessors,
00:10:57.240 go after their predecessors
00:10:58.420 and say,
00:10:59.300 okay, now you're going to jail.
00:11:00.940 And ultimately,
00:11:02.380 that is incredibly harmful
00:11:04.640 for the rule of law.
00:11:05.680 It's incredibly harmful
00:11:06.720 for democracy,
00:11:08.040 and because prosecutors
00:11:09.580 have so much power,
00:11:11.520 we don't want Republicans,
00:11:13.740 when they come in office,
00:11:14.820 unleashing all of that force
00:11:16.700 trying to just incarcerate
00:11:18.760 their opponents.
00:11:19.480 We don't want Democrats
00:11:20.560 in power unleashing
00:11:21.900 all their force
00:11:22.760 trying to incarcerate
00:11:24.120 their opponents.
00:11:24.740 You know,
00:11:24.900 I talk about this
00:11:25.840 at length
00:11:26.920 in my latest book,
00:11:28.720 Justice Corrupted,
00:11:29.580 about the way
00:11:30.180 it's supposed to work,
00:11:31.800 and in this instance,
00:11:34.660 particularly with respect
00:11:36.140 to a former president,
00:11:37.780 and especially
00:11:38.400 a former president
00:11:39.860 of the opposing party,
00:11:41.420 we shouldn't see
00:11:44.000 the kind of
00:11:44.640 ticky-tack indictments.
00:11:46.840 Look, this New York statute
00:11:48.060 is a bookkeeping statute.
00:11:50.060 It's a misdemeanor
00:11:51.040 on its face.
00:11:52.180 It's the sort of thing
00:11:53.360 that on the terms of it,
00:11:55.100 if Trump is committed
00:11:56.200 to a violation,
00:11:57.180 Hillary Clinton has too.
00:11:58.420 And we talked about that
00:11:59.460 at length
00:11:59.940 on Monday's podcast.
00:12:02.880 And so if it's...
00:12:03.420 Yeah, go back.
00:12:03.980 You said earlier,
00:12:04.880 and I'll say it again.
00:12:05.560 Go back and listen to...
00:12:07.680 If you missed
00:12:08.340 the last podcast,
00:12:09.320 go back and get it,
00:12:10.220 because it will lay out
00:12:12.060 so much of what
00:12:13.040 we're referencing right now.
00:12:14.500 If you missed it,
00:12:15.100 it's worth going back
00:12:16.040 and listening to.
00:12:17.240 Senator, I also want
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00:12:21.100 about this.
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00:12:24.020 that have been saying
00:12:24.600 Donald Trump is terrified.
00:12:26.360 MSNBC said he's shaking
00:12:27.420 in his boots
00:12:27.960 of being indicted.
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00:13:41.460 All right.
00:13:42.040 Politically,
00:13:42.660 Senator,
00:13:43.560 I've seen this on TV
00:13:45.620 where they're obsessing
00:13:46.760 over Donald Trump
00:13:47.820 being afraid
00:13:48.460 of being indicted
00:13:49.340 and this will be
00:13:50.720 the end of his
00:13:51.280 political career.
00:13:52.140 I don't think
00:13:52.780 he's afraid of this.
00:13:53.640 If I was Donald Trump,
00:13:54.940 the only thing
00:13:56.320 I would be arguing over
00:13:57.280 is what to wear
00:13:58.120 and how big I should grin
00:13:59.540 if they make me come in
00:14:00.840 and do a mugshot.
00:14:02.000 Well,
00:14:04.900 I'm confident
00:14:05.460 the answer to that
00:14:06.440 will be
00:14:06.860 if there's a mugshot,
00:14:08.080 Trump will be smiling
00:14:09.180 ear to ear.
00:14:11.400 And I think you're right.
00:14:13.080 I think he is
00:14:14.300 perfectly happy
00:14:15.320 to have 0.99
00:14:16.040 this ridiculous 0.91
00:14:17.420 prosecution 0.98
00:14:18.220 targeted at him.
00:14:19.200 I think it benefits
00:14:20.040 him politically.
00:14:22.320 And that's precisely
00:14:24.260 why Democrats
00:14:25.340 are running away.
00:14:26.140 I will say,
00:14:26.780 by the way,
00:14:27.560 just a minute ago,
00:14:28.460 I had that sort of
00:14:29.540 nagging voice
00:14:30.220 in the back of my mind.
00:14:31.180 I said that Stalin
00:14:32.800 was the one who said,
00:14:33.740 show me the man,
00:14:34.260 I'll show you the crime.
00:14:35.220 And part of me was saying,
00:14:36.040 well, I don't think
00:14:36.640 that's right,
00:14:37.120 so I just Googled it.
00:14:38.440 Turned out I was
00:14:39.220 sort of right,
00:14:39.920 but sort of wrong.
00:14:40.900 It wasn't actually Stalin
00:14:41.780 who said that.
00:14:42.520 It was Lavrentia Beria,
00:14:45.660 who was the longest
00:14:46.860 serving secret police chief
00:14:48.620 working for Joseph Stalin.
00:14:50.640 There you go.
00:14:51.460 And what he said,
00:14:52.400 his quote was,
00:14:53.200 show me the man
00:14:53.740 and I'll show you the crime.
00:14:54.700 And he served
00:14:55.960 as deputy premier
00:14:56.820 from 1941
00:14:58.320 until Stalin's death
00:14:59.600 in 1953.
00:15:00.940 And he was in charge
00:15:02.000 of the gulags.
00:15:02.880 And he understood,
00:15:04.500 whoever it is,
00:15:05.340 Ben Ferguson,
00:15:06.580 he may well have
00:15:07.360 committed a felony
00:15:08.100 while recording this podcast,
00:15:09.920 for all we know.
00:15:11.160 But if we unleash
00:15:12.640 the secret police on him,
00:15:13.940 we're going to find something.
00:15:15.640 Yeah.
00:15:15.900 And that's what
00:15:16.780 this seems to be about.
00:15:17.920 There is one audio clip
00:15:20.340 I've got to just play for you.
00:15:21.560 And I do think
00:15:22.360 this tells you a lot
00:15:23.640 about the mindset
00:15:24.460 of the left right now.
00:15:26.040 They are obsessed
00:15:27.060 and have been
00:15:27.760 since 2016
00:15:29.000 with putting
00:15:30.000 Donald Trump in jail.
00:15:31.720 The View,
00:15:32.760 put it this way,
00:15:33.880 this morning.
00:15:35.020 I want to start this
00:15:35.980 with this update.
00:15:38.040 You know who
00:15:39.120 is still at large.
00:15:41.660 He is.
00:15:43.220 Yes, he is.
00:15:43.980 He is.
00:15:44.580 He hasn't been arrested.
00:15:46.020 No.
00:15:46.520 Like he predicted.
00:15:47.600 Well, you know,
00:15:49.340 you kind of have to weigh it
00:15:50.680 with all the other stuff
00:15:51.660 he said.
00:15:52.740 And you figure,
00:15:53.620 well, you know,
00:15:54.920 you said you won
00:15:55.840 the election.
00:15:56.360 You didn't win.
00:15:57.060 Good point.
00:15:57.740 You said they're
00:15:58.020 coming to arrest you.
00:15:59.600 They didn't arrest you.
00:16:00.120 I said that to Joy.
00:16:01.020 Why don't we start
00:16:01.900 believing him now?
00:16:03.180 Yeah, I mean,
00:16:03.780 it's kind of crazy.
00:16:05.000 He manipulated everybody.
00:16:06.520 We all rose to the occasion.
00:16:08.140 The papers,
00:16:08.780 everybody just went there.
00:16:10.180 So many people
00:16:10.820 were excited. 1.00
00:16:11.660 Liar. 0.99
00:16:12.260 Yeah. 0.98
00:16:15.000 I mean,
00:16:16.080 this is their obsession.
00:16:17.220 And that's where
00:16:18.160 I think Bragg
00:16:18.800 probably said
00:16:19.480 the people want me
00:16:20.520 to do this.
00:16:21.020 The media wants me
00:16:21.820 to do this.
00:16:22.500 They're all pushing
00:16:23.360 for this.
00:16:24.080 I'll be the guy
00:16:24.800 to do it.
00:16:25.260 And really,
00:16:25.720 it may help him
00:16:26.640 politically
00:16:27.140 because there's
00:16:28.160 a very good chance
00:16:28.840 he wants to run
00:16:29.640 for governor
00:16:30.240 of New York.
00:16:32.260 Well,
00:16:32.700 I think it's amusing
00:16:33.660 that the views
00:16:34.460 take on it is,
00:16:35.540 oh, no, no, no,
00:16:35.900 he wasn't going
00:16:36.540 to be arrested.
00:16:37.920 Look,
00:16:38.400 it's clear Bragg
00:16:39.480 was planning to arrest him
00:16:40.680 and planning to arrest him
00:16:41.940 this week.
00:16:43.180 That's why there's been
00:16:44.600 this Democrat freak out
00:16:45.940 because I think
00:16:46.800 Democrats realized
00:16:47.920 it was an enormous stumble.
00:16:51.040 The case is legally frivolous.
00:16:53.620 Anyone who looks at it,
00:16:54.840 you can't with a straight face
00:16:56.440 argue that you should go
00:16:59.440 after Trump
00:17:00.560 based on this New York
00:17:02.080 bookkeeping violation
00:17:03.840 that has no application
00:17:07.880 to this.
00:17:08.560 It's a statute
00:17:09.600 that says you can't
00:17:11.060 have a false
00:17:11.860 bookkeeping business record.
00:17:14.340 And in this instance,
00:17:15.600 he's trying to,
00:17:16.500 the statute of limitations
00:17:17.880 has run.
00:17:18.740 In other words,
00:17:19.200 he can't charge
00:17:20.280 the misdemeanor offense.
00:17:22.320 So he's got to try
00:17:23.180 to bootstrap it
00:17:24.260 into a federal election
00:17:25.920 law offense,
00:17:26.600 which the Federal Election
00:17:27.580 Commission declined
00:17:28.500 to prosecute.
00:17:29.400 The Department of Justice
00:17:30.560 declined to prosecute.
00:17:31.880 The Southern District
00:17:32.760 of New York
00:17:33.240 declined to prosecute.
00:17:34.740 And the Mueller investigation
00:17:36.460 declined to prosecute.
00:17:37.480 So everyone who's
00:17:38.100 looked at this
00:17:38.800 says there's no
00:17:40.280 there there.
00:17:41.360 And yet,
00:17:41.860 if you wake up
00:17:43.780 every morning
00:17:44.680 growling and hating 0.99
00:17:46.380 Donald Trump 0.92
00:17:47.220 like Whoopi Goldberg
00:17:48.220 does,
00:17:48.660 like Alvin Bragg does,
00:17:50.420 then you don't care
00:17:52.300 about the facts
00:17:53.000 of the law.
00:17:53.560 You just want
00:17:54.100 to get the guy.
00:17:55.600 And I think
00:17:56.220 what has happened
00:17:56.840 this week so far
00:17:57.940 is it may be
00:18:00.020 that Bragg's
00:18:00.660 getting cold feet
00:18:01.560 because Democrats
00:18:02.360 are so terrified
00:18:03.700 of the consequences
00:18:05.300 of this frivolous
00:18:06.240 prosecution.
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00:18:38.680 Yeah,
00:18:39.140 no doubt about it.
00:18:39.760 I want to talk about
00:18:40.520 a couple different victories
00:18:41.600 real quick,
00:18:42.240 Senator.
00:18:42.640 One of those deals,
00:18:44.880 and we talked about this
00:18:46.020 on a prior pod,
00:18:47.300 with the idea
00:18:48.980 of Phil Washington
00:18:50.420 heading the FAA.
00:18:53.420 You've got some news
00:18:54.600 to break on that,
00:18:55.700 but before we get to it,
00:18:56.840 I want people to hear
00:18:57.920 what you had to say
00:18:59.220 from the floor
00:18:59.700 of the Senate
00:19:00.120 last night.
00:19:00.820 Let me suggest
00:19:02.340 to the members
00:19:02.940 of the Senate,
00:19:03.900 if God forbid
00:19:06.240 that were to happen
00:19:08.760 in the next two years,
00:19:09.740 and I pray
00:19:10.340 that it does not,
00:19:12.220 I can tell you
00:19:13.640 I certainly wouldn't
00:19:14.680 want to be a senator
00:19:15.460 who voted to confirm
00:19:18.060 an administrator
00:19:18.720 of the FAA
00:19:19.560 who's never flown a plane,
00:19:21.120 who doesn't know anything
00:19:21.900 about aviation safety,
00:19:23.040 and has no idea
00:19:24.240 why the plane crashed.
00:19:25.440 I don't know
00:19:27.520 how I'd go home
00:19:28.520 and explain
00:19:29.540 to 30 million Texans
00:19:31.040 that, well,
00:19:34.120 you know,
00:19:35.200 my political party
00:19:36.180 nominated him,
00:19:37.300 and so I just,
00:19:38.440 I went with party loyalty
00:19:39.520 and voted to confirm
00:19:40.460 the guy,
00:19:41.220 even though
00:19:41.940 he didn't have the experience
00:19:43.240 to do the job.
00:19:45.280 I don't believe
00:19:46.300 Mr. Washington's
00:19:47.560 going to be confirmed.
00:19:48.760 I personally,
00:19:49.960 I respect
00:19:50.540 his military service
00:19:52.580 when he testified
00:19:55.020 before the committee,
00:19:56.100 he seemed
00:19:56.720 like a decent
00:19:59.340 and capable man,
00:20:00.900 but he's also a man
00:20:04.120 who doesn't know
00:20:05.240 anything about airplanes,
00:20:06.960 and if there's any job
00:20:10.000 in the entire
00:20:10.640 federal government
00:20:11.480 where you need to know
00:20:12.500 not just something
00:20:13.380 about airplanes,
00:20:14.480 a lot about airplanes,
00:20:17.500 it is to be
00:20:18.540 the administrator
00:20:19.220 of the FAA.
00:20:20.140 We need a Senate-confirmed
00:20:21.440 leader in this job
00:20:22.520 quickly,
00:20:23.360 and I would urge
00:20:25.320 the president
00:20:25.900 withdraw this nomination
00:20:27.640 and nominate
00:20:30.460 either acting
00:20:31.620 Administrator Nolan
00:20:32.600 or if not him,
00:20:34.260 somebody like him
00:20:35.520 with decades
00:20:37.460 of real experience
00:20:38.820 so that we can have
00:20:40.000 a Senate-confirmed leader
00:20:41.400 with the knowledge
00:20:43.000 and judgment
00:20:43.920 and expertise
00:20:44.660 to do everything
00:20:45.800 humanly possible
00:20:46.880 to keep your family safe
00:20:48.980 and my family safe
00:20:50.200 and to keep the
00:20:50.840 flying public safe.
00:20:52.000 We have a responsibility.
00:20:54.460 We have a responsibility
00:20:55.600 to do this right.
00:20:58.040 I yield the floor.
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00:22:12.960 Senator,
00:22:13.400 you've talked about this.
00:22:14.780 You've been leading
00:22:15.340 on Phil Washington
00:22:16.280 saying he's just
00:22:17.160 not qualified
00:22:17.940 and now you've got news
00:22:19.560 to break on this nomination.
00:22:21.800 Well, I think we're
00:22:22.380 on the verge
00:22:22.940 of a major victory here
00:22:24.040 which is that speech
00:22:25.740 I gave on the Senate floor
00:22:26.820 last night.
00:22:28.060 This morning
00:22:28.800 we had the markup
00:22:29.900 where Phil Washington
00:22:30.900 was scheduled
00:22:31.460 to be voted on
00:22:32.180 in the Commerce Committee.
00:22:33.380 That began at 10 a.m.
00:22:34.920 and at 10 a.m.
00:22:35.740 I had every reason
00:22:36.640 to believe
00:22:37.140 that we were going
00:22:38.200 to vote on Phil Washington.
00:22:39.940 A few minutes later,
00:22:41.040 Maria Cantwell,
00:22:41.840 the Democrat chair,
00:22:42.860 announced that
00:22:43.780 that the committee
00:22:45.160 was delaying
00:22:46.040 the vote
00:22:46.400 on Phil Washington,
00:22:47.260 that we were not
00:22:47.900 voting on Phil Washington
00:22:49.000 today.
00:22:50.500 I think the reason
00:22:51.400 is simple.
00:22:51.920 They don't have the votes.
00:22:53.160 And listen,
00:22:54.620 Washington is
00:22:55.820 wildly unqualified
00:22:57.460 to do this job.
00:22:59.200 The job
00:22:59.800 is administrator
00:23:00.500 of the FAA.
00:23:02.580 Millions of Americans
00:23:03.640 fly on planes
00:23:04.680 every year.
00:23:06.280 Mr. Washington
00:23:07.000 doesn't know
00:23:07.700 anything about planes.
00:23:09.120 He's not a pilot.
00:23:10.480 He's never been
00:23:11.240 a military pilot.
00:23:12.200 He's never been
00:23:12.700 a commercial
00:23:13.080 airline pilot.
00:23:14.260 He's never worked
00:23:15.180 for an airline.
00:23:16.120 He's never worked
00:23:16.960 at the FAA.
00:23:18.220 He's never worked
00:23:19.360 in airplane manufacture.
00:23:22.180 He's never worked
00:23:22.860 in airplane repair.
00:23:24.620 He's never worked
00:23:25.260 as an air traffic controller.
00:23:27.040 His career
00:23:27.920 has been dealing
00:23:28.680 with buses and trains.
00:23:29.940 Buses and trains
00:23:30.600 are great,
00:23:31.180 but they don't fly
00:23:32.060 in the air.
00:23:33.420 And his nomination
00:23:36.280 on its face
00:23:37.540 is he is wildly
00:23:41.360 unqualified
00:23:42.000 for this job.
00:23:42.960 I believe all
00:23:43.640 of the Republicans
00:23:44.280 agree with that.
00:23:45.420 But there have been
00:23:45.940 a number of Democrats
00:23:46.860 who have expressed
00:23:47.760 publicly concerns.
00:23:50.040 And listen,
00:23:51.460 something like the FAA
00:23:52.540 I don't think
00:23:53.720 should be a partisan position.
00:23:55.240 I don't particularly
00:23:55.820 want a Republican
00:23:56.660 FAA administrator
00:23:57.520 or a Democrat
00:23:58.340 FAA administrator.
00:23:59.520 I want a guy
00:24:00.400 who knows how
00:24:00.820 to keep planes
00:24:01.380 in the air.
00:24:02.580 And I'll point out
00:24:04.500 there is right now
00:24:07.200 somebody,
00:24:08.620 Billy Nolan,
00:24:09.420 who is the acting
00:24:10.400 administrator
00:24:11.020 to the FAA.
00:24:12.580 Joe Biden selected him,
00:24:14.500 named him
00:24:15.000 the acting administrator.
00:24:16.180 Unlike Phil Washington,
00:24:17.780 he has decades
00:24:18.480 of experience
00:24:19.340 in aviation.
00:24:20.140 He has decades
00:24:21.040 of experience
00:24:21.660 in aviation safety.
00:24:23.160 He's a pilot.
00:24:23.920 He's been a commercial
00:24:24.460 airline pilot.
00:24:25.560 He has multiple
00:24:26.760 certifications
00:24:27.620 in aviation safety.
00:24:30.260 He's been a senior
00:24:30.900 official at the FAA.
00:24:33.400 There's an obvious
00:24:34.500 solution.
00:24:35.220 And I'll tell you,
00:24:35.840 I just suggested this
00:24:37.140 at a hearing
00:24:37.960 a couple of weeks ago.
00:24:38.960 And to kind of take you
00:24:40.720 behind the scenes,
00:24:43.340 when I sat down
00:24:44.180 at the hearing,
00:24:44.780 it was a hearing
00:24:45.360 where Billy Nolan
00:24:46.020 was testifying.
00:24:46.920 I had not planned
00:24:47.620 to say this
00:24:48.320 and my staff
00:24:49.160 hadn't written out
00:24:50.360 remarks on it.
00:24:51.140 But just as I was
00:24:51.760 listening to him
00:24:52.340 testify,
00:24:53.760 the contrast
00:24:54.680 between his knowledge
00:24:56.000 of aviation
00:24:56.860 and Washington's
00:24:58.260 lack of knowledge
00:24:59.060 was really striking.
00:25:00.740 So I turned
00:25:01.220 to my staffers
00:25:01.820 in the back
00:25:02.260 and I said,
00:25:02.700 look,
00:25:02.900 what do you think
00:25:03.560 of my just suggesting
00:25:04.680 how about this guy?
00:25:05.580 And my team
00:25:07.200 thought that made sense.
00:25:08.340 And so I just leaned
00:25:09.140 forward to the microphone
00:25:10.220 and said,
00:25:11.400 listen,
00:25:11.860 if the Biden White House
00:25:12.860 wants a successful nomination,
00:25:14.920 withdraw Washington,
00:25:16.760 name Billy Nolan
00:25:17.660 and he will get confirmed
00:25:18.920 with a big bipartisan vote.
00:25:20.760 And we need to have
00:25:22.380 a qualified Senate
00:25:24.240 confirmed leader
00:25:25.020 of the FAA.
00:25:26.100 Listen,
00:25:26.380 we've seen over
00:25:27.380 and over again
00:25:28.080 airlines almost colliding.
00:25:30.240 God forbid
00:25:31.200 we have some horrific
00:25:32.560 mass casualty event
00:25:34.400 when the Biden
00:25:35.820 administration
00:25:36.560 doesn't have
00:25:37.760 a Senate confirmed
00:25:39.240 leader of the FAA.
00:25:40.620 They need to fix this now
00:25:42.180 and today's announcement
00:25:44.260 that they are
00:25:45.360 quote postponing
00:25:46.460 the vote,
00:25:48.800 it may be like
00:25:49.820 Alvin Bragg's announcement
00:25:51.000 that he's postponing
00:25:52.260 the grand jury coming in.
00:25:53.560 It may be postponed
00:25:54.680 permanently.
00:25:56.980 I hope both of them are,
00:25:58.900 but if the administration
00:26:00.440 withdraws
00:26:01.520 Phil Washington,
00:26:03.100 it would be another
00:26:03.840 big victory.
00:26:04.940 As you know,
00:26:05.900 we already defeated
00:26:06.860 Gigi Soane,
00:26:07.900 who Biden had nominated
00:26:09.040 to the FCC,
00:26:10.640 the Federal Communications
00:26:11.500 Commission,
00:26:12.160 because she was radical
00:26:13.260 and had an extreme record.
00:26:16.540 I think there's
00:26:17.320 a very good chance
00:26:18.260 the Phil Washington
00:26:19.040 nomination is going
00:26:19.840 to go down as well
00:26:20.700 and we will get instead
00:26:21.700 someone qualified
00:26:22.940 and with the knowledge
00:26:24.520 to keep your family safe
00:26:25.800 and my family safe
00:26:26.720 when we go up
00:26:27.220 on an airplane.
00:26:28.080 Yeah,
00:26:28.240 and there should be
00:26:28.700 a non-political position.
00:26:30.460 It should be one
00:26:31.980 that should be bipartisan
00:26:33.040 when you're approving someone
00:26:34.580 and it looks like
00:26:35.940 they don't have the votes
00:26:37.100 because they can count easily,
00:26:38.400 right?
00:26:38.820 I mean,
00:26:39.040 they know where they stood
00:26:40.120 this morning at 10 a.m.
00:26:41.980 Well,
00:26:42.580 look,
00:26:43.000 I think the vote
00:26:43.960 was scheduled this morning
00:26:45.360 because the White House
00:26:46.500 wanted to put political pressure
00:26:48.360 on to Democrats
00:26:50.120 to force them
00:26:51.220 to support him
00:26:52.220 even though he's not qualified
00:26:53.620 and I'm sure
00:26:54.440 there was massive arm twisting
00:26:56.740 probably going on
00:26:57.940 until late last night
00:26:59.800 or even early this morning
00:27:01.040 but the fact
00:27:02.240 that they delayed the votes
00:27:03.340 it tells me
00:27:04.020 that their arm twisting
00:27:04.920 didn't work
00:27:05.720 and I think it's likely
00:27:07.980 we're going to see
00:27:08.520 this nomination withdrawn
00:27:09.700 and that's what should happen.
00:27:11.740 I can tell you
00:27:12.600 I heard from inside
00:27:13.540 the Biden White House
00:27:14.500 that when I suggested
00:27:15.620 Billy Nolan
00:27:16.300 that that reverberated
00:27:19.160 throughout the halls
00:27:20.300 of the White House
00:27:21.360 they're like,
00:27:21.980 what? 0.90
00:27:22.460 Holy crap, 0.99
00:27:23.280 you mean there's a way 0.93
00:27:23.820 we can get a guy through
00:27:25.740 and get a guy through fast?
00:27:27.000 And let's be clear,
00:27:27.940 I don't know Billy Nolan
00:27:29.000 I'm not suggesting him
00:27:30.100 because he's a Republican
00:27:30.940 I'm not suggesting him
00:27:31.960 because he's my guy
00:27:32.820 he's the person
00:27:34.380 the Biden administration
00:27:35.920 named as their acting administrator
00:27:38.040 I'm just looking at qualifications
00:27:39.980 and knowledge
00:27:40.920 and when I ask Billy Nolan
00:27:42.160 questions about the FAA
00:27:43.540 and keeping airline travel safe
00:27:45.820 he can answer those questions
00:27:47.580 when I ask Phil Washington
00:27:49.780 I asked Phil Washington
00:27:50.820 for example
00:27:51.560 a couple of years ago
00:27:53.160 we had the horrific crashes
00:27:54.600 of the 737 Maxes
00:27:56.240 two different crashes
00:27:57.240 346 lives were lost
00:28:00.360 in those two crashes
00:28:01.300 I asked him
00:28:02.660 why did the planes crash?
00:28:04.340 He said
00:28:04.580 I don't know
00:28:05.080 you know
00:28:06.360 that's kind of a pretty
00:28:07.680 big friggin problem
00:28:08.800 I told him 0.97
00:28:09.380 I said
00:28:09.640 Mr. Washington
00:28:10.300 I believe you
00:28:11.660 I believe that you don't know
00:28:13.480 and that's why
00:28:15.940 you're not qualified
00:28:16.960 to lead this agency
00:28:18.580 because the head of the FAA
00:28:20.100 should know exactly
00:28:21.680 why they crashed
00:28:22.600 and in particular
00:28:23.420 should know
00:28:24.200 what we need to do
00:28:25.560 to prevent it
00:28:26.220 from happening
00:28:26.840 in another flight
00:28:28.800 Yeah
00:28:29.360 you wish that this administration
00:28:30.920 would start taking
00:28:31.660 these positions seriously
00:28:32.820 it is
00:28:33.940 thank goodness
00:28:34.800 you were able to
00:28:35.900 really ask these questions
00:28:37.480 a lot of that went viral
00:28:39.700 by just showing people
00:28:41.880 how inadequate
00:28:42.540 this nominee is
00:28:43.640 for this specific job
00:28:45.420 and that is where
00:28:46.720 it clearly made an impact
00:28:48.200 even on Democrats
00:28:49.080 which is a great news
00:28:50.600 for all of us
00:28:52.100 when it comes to safety
00:28:52.980 this is a non-political appointee
00:28:55.260 and it should never be
00:28:56.900 a political person
00:28:58.760 and I'm glad
00:28:59.820 that there's some success
00:29:01.060 it looks like here
00:29:01.920 that has happened with this
00:29:03.280 finally I want to ask you
00:29:04.580 about another
00:29:05.260 and this for me
00:29:06.080 is a huge deal
00:29:07.640 as a broadcaster
00:29:09.340 as someone that does
00:29:10.200 radio and TV
00:29:11.300 for a living
00:29:12.620 when you see people
00:29:14.820 be deplatformed
00:29:16.000 whether it's individuals
00:29:17.200 on social media
00:29:18.120 or from TV networks
00:29:20.720 it is a scary moment
00:29:22.460 we're now being told
00:29:23.840 that there has been
00:29:24.580 a deal that's been done
00:29:25.880 to get Newsmax
00:29:27.380 back on the air
00:29:29.140 this is something
00:29:30.460 that you went all in for
00:29:32.160 from a freedom of speech
00:29:33.820 perspective
00:29:34.620 and not silencing
00:29:36.300 conservative networks
00:29:37.580 and now it looks like
00:29:38.500 a deal is together
00:29:39.720 to bring back Newsmax
00:29:41.860 to a carrier
00:29:42.960 that dropped them
00:29:43.720 well that's exactly right
00:29:46.080 and this is news
00:29:46.900 that broke today
00:29:47.800 just a couple of hours ago
00:29:49.240 but it is a huge
00:29:50.760 huge victory
00:29:51.560 as regular listeners
00:29:53.320 of the podcast
00:29:53.960 will recall
00:29:54.940 DirecTV
00:29:56.660 deplatformed Newsmax
00:29:58.760 and about a year ago
00:29:59.860 Democrat members
00:30:00.700 of Congress
00:30:01.180 wrote to DirecTV
00:30:02.220 and said
00:30:03.440 there are three
00:30:04.120 conservative cable news outlets
00:30:05.740 Fox News
00:30:06.460 DirecTV
00:30:07.120 and One America News
00:30:08.360 please deplatform
00:30:09.740 all three of them
00:30:10.440 we don't like
00:30:11.260 what they're saying
00:30:12.000 we don't like
00:30:12.600 that customers
00:30:13.140 can hear what they're saying
00:30:14.160 so please throw them
00:30:14.980 off the air
00:30:15.520 unfortunately
00:30:16.980 DirecTV
00:30:17.780 deplatformed
00:30:19.380 One America News
00:30:20.300 I think that was wrong
00:30:21.380 it was a mistake
00:30:22.040 I think it was silencing
00:30:23.320 conservative voices
00:30:24.320 and then
00:30:25.540 in the last couple of months
00:30:26.840 DirecTV
00:30:27.900 deplatformed
00:30:29.300 Newsmax
00:30:30.040 and so they had thrown
00:30:31.200 two of the three
00:30:32.320 right of center
00:30:33.580 cable news stations
00:30:34.720 off of the air
00:30:36.220 I was deeply concerned
00:30:39.120 when they threw
00:30:39.720 Newsmax off the air
00:30:40.940 I had just started
00:30:42.820 as the ranking member
00:30:44.080 on the Senate
00:30:44.540 Commerce Committee
00:30:45.240 and so I immediately
00:30:46.260 launched an investigation
00:30:47.740 from the Senate
00:30:49.440 Commerce Committee
00:30:50.160 I brought together
00:30:51.240 three other senators
00:30:52.620 I brought together
00:30:53.740 Mike Lee
00:30:55.180 and Tom Cotton
00:30:56.340 and also Lindsey Graham
00:30:57.700 who's the ranking member
00:30:58.740 of the Judiciary Committee
00:30:59.720 so you had Lindsey
00:31:00.580 on Judiciary
00:31:01.280 obviously I'm on Judiciary
00:31:02.780 as well
00:31:03.320 you had me
00:31:04.220 as the ranker
00:31:04.860 on Commerce
00:31:05.520 all of us together
00:31:07.880 had a whole series
00:31:09.520 of very specific questions
00:31:10.960 examining
00:31:11.640 what DirecTV
00:31:13.640 had done
00:31:14.240 and also examining
00:31:15.360 AT&T and Texas Pacific Group
00:31:17.280 who are the parent companies
00:31:19.100 of DirecTV
00:31:20.120 I can tell you
00:31:21.900 that they did not like
00:31:23.560 that congressional scrutiny
00:31:24.740 they were very displeased
00:31:26.100 and what I conveyed to them
00:31:28.780 was simple and unequivocal
00:31:30.120 if you want the investigation
00:31:32.200 to stop
00:31:32.960 if you want the scrutiny
00:31:34.080 to stop
00:31:34.760 put Newsmax
00:31:36.700 back on air
00:31:38.040 that needs to be the outcome
00:31:39.760 put them back on air
00:31:40.840 look you don't have to watch them
00:31:42.280 you don't have to listen to them
00:31:43.620 I happen to think
00:31:44.400 Newsmax is awesome
00:31:46.020 I watch them regularly
00:31:47.540 I go on Newsmax regularly
00:31:48.980 but if you don't like Newsmax
00:31:50.640 change the channel
00:31:51.580 there are lots of lefty channels
00:31:53.040 that you can watch
00:31:54.320 but the resolution of this
00:31:57.280 I drew a line in the sand
00:31:59.680 and said
00:32:00.640 the resolution of this
00:32:02.720 needs to be
00:32:03.580 Newsmax back on air
00:32:05.140 and as of 10am this morning
00:32:07.220 they've announced
00:32:07.900 Newsmax is going back on air
00:32:09.640 so it was an unequivocal victory
00:32:11.420 a victory for free speech
00:32:13.340 a victory
00:32:14.000 for consumers
00:32:15.480 a victory for 30 million Texans
00:32:17.260 who want to be able
00:32:18.420 to turn on their TV
00:32:19.440 and watch
00:32:20.240 a variety of views
00:32:21.960 and get news
00:32:22.700 from across the spectrum
00:32:23.800 so it's a big big win today
00:32:25.460 yeah it's huge
00:32:26.420 and it's something
00:32:27.040 that if you guys
00:32:27.760 wouldn't have fought for this
00:32:28.620 so hard in the Senate
00:32:29.420 I think it would have
00:32:30.400 never have happened
00:32:31.120 so congratulations
00:32:31.900 obviously on that
00:32:33.640 for as you said
00:32:34.860 free speech
00:32:35.540 and we don't want to cancel
00:32:36.940 either side of free speech
00:32:38.300 that's what people seem
00:32:39.840 to not understand
00:32:40.520 about conservatism
00:32:41.520 we want all free speech
00:32:43.440 to stay there
00:32:44.120 as you mentioned
00:32:45.140 both sides
00:32:46.140 it would be terrible
00:32:47.180 if you were canceling
00:32:48.060 everything on the left
00:32:48.960 and only keeping on the right
00:32:50.640 because again
00:32:51.560 there's precedent
00:32:52.400 that's not what free speech is
00:32:54.280 and this is going to be
00:32:55.320 a very big victory
00:32:56.320 and precedent
00:32:57.060 I think for the future
00:32:57.760 and Ben that's important
00:32:59.300 look you and I aren't saying
00:33:00.740 take MSNBC off the air
00:33:02.320 we're not saying
00:33:03.060 take CNN off the air
00:33:04.280 never would
00:33:04.800 now I will say
00:33:05.680 that the viewers are saying
00:33:07.020 that they have minuscule viewers
00:33:08.640 this podcast
00:33:09.720 Verdict with Ted Cruz
00:33:10.800 we get more viewers
00:33:12.320 than MSNBC or CNN
00:33:14.020 so the people are voting
00:33:15.820 with their feet
00:33:16.960 with their eyeballs
00:33:17.880 with their ears
00:33:18.820 but look
00:33:20.220 I think having
00:33:21.300 the unhinged 0.85
00:33:23.360 leftist radicals 0.61
00:33:24.580 on MSNBC
00:33:25.460 and CNN talking
00:33:26.500 I think that's actually
00:33:27.360 good for us
00:33:28.020 I think it shows 0.96
00:33:29.600 how ridiculous 1.00
00:33:30.340 their views are 0.99
00:33:31.300 I don't want them silenced
00:33:32.460 I just want
00:33:33.700 to be able
00:33:35.000 to counter
00:33:35.740 their misinformation
00:33:36.660 with the facts
00:33:38.400 and the truth
00:33:39.220 and having Newsmax
00:33:40.920 now back on air
00:33:41.920 provides one other outlet
00:33:43.360 through which
00:33:44.440 you can do that
00:33:44.980 yeah I totally agree
00:33:46.380 with that
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00:35:08.740 last question for you
00:35:10.560 Senator
00:35:10.880 as we move forward
00:35:12.740 this week
00:35:13.400 with Donald Trump
00:35:15.440 and you see
00:35:17.500 this changing
00:35:19.200 very very quickly
00:35:20.220 if Donald Trump
00:35:21.740 does in fact
00:35:22.760 not get indicted
00:35:23.600 is that good
00:35:24.620 for the entire country
00:35:26.100 and precedent
00:35:27.440 to kind of pull back
00:35:28.620 on these activists
00:35:29.520 is that going to be
00:35:30.500 the big outcome
00:35:31.380 of this that you see
00:35:32.220 overall moving forward?
00:35:34.180 Look I hope and believe
00:35:35.620 this week that we have seen
00:35:37.020 three huge victories
00:35:38.400 the one that is
00:35:39.680 unequivocal
00:35:40.220 is Newsmax
00:35:40.880 and Newsmax being on air
00:35:42.220 is a complete victory
00:35:43.320 the other two
00:35:45.160 may be big victories
00:35:46.840 and they are Trump
00:35:47.840 and the FAA administrator
00:35:49.240 if the FAA administrator
00:35:51.180 gets pulled
00:35:51.940 because he's unqualified
00:35:53.020 that will be a second
00:35:54.000 huge victory
00:35:54.760 the fact that they
00:35:55.480 canceled his vote today
00:35:56.580 is a very positive sign
00:35:58.340 if Trump
00:35:59.600 if Alvin Bragg
00:36:00.640 backs off
00:36:01.340 and says
00:36:01.740 I'm not going to bring
00:36:02.720 this frivolous
00:36:03.540 baseless
00:36:04.120 partisan prosecution
00:36:05.160 that is a huge victory
00:36:06.800 it's a victory
00:36:07.300 for the rule of law
00:36:08.300 we know that he at least
00:36:09.860 paused
00:36:10.440 just like Phil Washington's
00:36:11.900 confirmation
00:36:12.320 and he told the grand jury
00:36:14.220 stay home today
00:36:15.040 now that pause
00:36:16.400 could be short-lived
00:36:17.180 he could bring the grand jury
00:36:18.220 back tomorrow
00:36:18.900 and they could indict him tomorrow
00:36:20.020 and we'll see what happens
00:36:23.020 by the way
00:36:23.460 I will note
00:36:24.100 you know
00:36:24.840 one of the questions
00:36:25.800 we talked about
00:36:26.460 in the last podcast
00:36:27.220 you said
00:36:27.760 well what will it be like
00:36:29.060 when he's arrested
00:36:29.880 and I don't know for sure
00:36:33.100 if and when they do that
00:36:34.300 but at least
00:36:35.320 the local prosecutor
00:36:36.580 in Palm Beach County
00:36:37.760 has said
00:36:39.060 that he will not be handcuffed
00:36:41.040 because the Secret Service
00:36:42.860 won't let law enforcement
00:36:44.340 lay hands on him
00:36:45.160 and so you have
00:36:45.640 an interesting dynamic
00:36:46.540 when the Secret Service
00:36:47.420 is protecting the president
00:36:49.120 that apparently
00:36:50.160 at least according
00:36:50.900 to the local prosecutor
00:36:52.040 they won't let them
00:36:54.220 handcuff the former president
00:36:55.560 but
00:36:55.960 if Alvin Bragg
00:36:58.360 goes forward
00:36:59.360 they may well do
00:37:00.140 a perp walk
00:37:00.820 they will presumably
00:37:01.820 fingerprint him
00:37:02.600 they'll presumably
00:37:03.120 do a mug shot
00:37:04.580 if that stops 0.99
00:37:07.180 if the Democrats
00:37:08.800 getting cold feet
00:37:10.180 stops Alvin Bragg
00:37:11.960 that is a huge victory
00:37:13.640 for the rule of law
00:37:14.760 that would be a very good thing
00:37:16.300 for America
00:37:16.780 yeah
00:37:17.440 alright
00:37:18.000 well here's what
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