00:09:48.480I would be every bit as opposed to an order preventing Joe Biden from criticizing his opponents, from criticizing RFK Jr., from criticizing Donald Trump.
00:09:59.000Now, to be clear, Joe Biden couldn't get up in the morning and speak without criticizing Donald Trump.
00:10:07.260And he also demonizes every other Republican because he's in his mental enfeeblement.
00:10:12.940He's also become an even more vicious partisan.
00:10:16.100But I would be equally and adamantly opposed to any court trying to prevent Joe Biden from attacking me or Trump or anybody else because that's what free speech and elections are all about.
00:10:27.120But today's Democrats, they don't believe in democracy, which is why these indictments are happening.
00:10:32.660They want to stop the voters from voting in a way they don't like.
00:10:35.700And they don't believe in free speech, which is why they want to muzzle their leading opponent for president.
00:10:42.000It is – it's a brave new world we're living in.
00:10:45.360Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week.
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00:12:01.660Now, fast forward multiple years later, and we find out this last week that, yes, Ray Epps has now officially been charged with a misdemeanor.
00:12:13.580Meanwhile, we're literally sending grandmothers to prison that were in and around January the 6th, rounding up people all over the country.
00:12:21.940Even just days ago, we saw another person rounded up.
00:12:24.960We put some different people in jail for decades now for January the 6th.
00:12:29.940But Ray Epps, who clearly was a ringleader, at least on the day before January 6th, and January 6th, all of a sudden gets a misdemeanor.
00:12:37.860And we still can't get a straight answer from Merrick Garland.
00:12:41.560I want you to hear Representative Thomas Massey and his back and forth, and then your reaction.
00:12:49.040It's our constitutional duty to do oversight.
00:12:51.280Now, in that video, that was your answer to a question to me two years ago, when I said, how many agents or assets of the government were present on January 5th and January 6th, and agitating in the crowd to go into the Capitol, and how many went into the Capitol?
00:14:17.820In discovery, in the cases that were filed with respect to January 6th, the Justice Department prosecutors provided whatever information they had about the question that you're asking.
00:14:31.880With respect to Mr. Epps, the FBI has said that he was not an employee or informant of the FBI.
00:14:41.940Mr. Epps has been charged, and there's a proceeding, I believe, going on today on that subject.
00:14:58.420Well, look, it's a very good question, and you see the Attorney General once again dodging.
00:15:03.580And, you know, one of the most telling moments of that exchange is when Merrick Garland says, well, I don't even know if there were any FBI agents there.
00:15:12.660And I think the point was made quite accurately that what Merrick Garland said there was almost certainly a deliberate lie.
00:15:22.220Look, an earlier verdict we did, actually, before you and I teamed up, back when it was Michael Knowles and me, we had an entire episode of Verdict that was entitled, Who is Ray Epps?
00:15:35.060And you ought to go on YouTube, and it was episode 104 of Verdict, Who is Ray Epps?
00:15:41.560And it followed questioning that I had done in the Judiciary Committee of senior officials at the Department of Justice and the FBI, where I asked them who Ray Epps was.
00:15:52.060And if he had been, if he was an employee of the FBI, if he was a confidential informant, they refused to answer.
00:16:10.840And so this has been a pattern for a long time.
00:16:13.960And now Merrick Garland is pleading ignorance that he has no idea what the Department of Justice's involvement was in inciting violence or criminality on January 6th.
00:16:27.700I can tell you this is also in the wake of the Department of Justice losing the case they brought against the individuals that were charged with a plot to kidnap and murder the Michigan governor.
00:17:44.320And the basis, the central defense of these defendants in Michigan was that undercover informants for the FBI, they're the ones who had suggested the plot.
00:17:55.600They're the ones who drove it forward.
00:18:01.440And the fact that the Biden DOJ is caught with absolute misconduct is really stunning.
00:18:14.420And, of course, the corrupt corporate media completely ignores it.
00:18:19.240And it's exactly relevant to the question that was just raised about January 6th, which is to what degree did the criminal conduct that occurred,
00:18:28.480did the violence that occur on that day, to what degree did law enforcement agents incite it or prompt it?
00:18:35.180And the reason there's so much focus on Ray Epps is he was caught on tape repeatedly saying,
00:18:41.460let's go into the Capitol, not just up to the Capitol, into the Capitol.
00:18:44.740And there's one point where his behavior was so odd that the entire crowd begins chanting, fed, fed, fed, fed.
00:18:52.260And so that's why I asked a senior leader at the FBI if Ray Epps was a fed, and she refused to answer that question.
00:19:00.800Merrick Garland now is pleading complete ignorance.
00:19:03.540He knows nothing of what happened on January 6th, except for the fact that he has told Congress repeatedly
00:19:09.020that they've devoted more resources to prosecuting individuals involved with January 6th
00:19:15.140than any other matter in DOJ's history, which is truly a stunning misallocation of resources.
00:19:21.720But it's yet another example of how the Biden DOJ is about politics all of the time.
00:19:28.700And if you could target your political enemies, they're more than eager to do so.
00:19:33.200Senator, finally, there was one part that I really thought wrapped up just how bad
00:19:39.540this back and forth was, this testimony before Congress, and the Justice Department oversight
00:19:46.560when Merrick Garland was asked a pretty simple question, and that's, hey,
00:19:50.520why do you act like you're the president's lawyer?