Verdict with Ted Cruz - Trump Court Dates are Campaign Interference, Who is Ray Epps, and Joe Biden Shrugs off NYC Mayor Adams Week In Review

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00:00:05.440 Welcome.

00:00:06.140 It is the Verdict with Ted Cruz.

00:00:08.000 Weekend review.

00:00:08.960 Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:10.280 And these are the big stories that you may have missed that we talked about this week.

00:00:14.960 The number one story we're going to start with today deals with election interference.

00:00:18.080 And if you put Donald Trump in a courtroom on purpose on a day like, for example, Super

00:00:22.920 Tuesday, so he can't campaign, is that not the definition of election interference?

00:00:27.880 Also, story number two, Ray Epps.

00:00:31.340 You've heard the name.

00:00:32.380 Well, he got indicted this week, sort of.

00:00:35.480 In fact, it was almost a joke.

00:00:37.820 So how did Ray Epps get away with January the 6th and why have they been protecting him

00:00:42.440 at the FBI and the DOJ?

00:00:44.280 We'll explain that.

00:00:45.240 And finally, Joe Biden's not getting along very well with Democratic mayors across the

00:00:51.300 country who are starting to turn on him on illegal immigration.

00:00:54.760 So what does this mean for getting a deal done with Mayor Adams in New York?

00:00:58.940 We'll have that for you as well.

00:01:00.720 It is the Weekend Review with Ted Cruz, and it starts right now.

00:01:05.240 Judges getting involved in a way that I think is pretty clear to election interference.

00:01:10.420 We've seen court dates that have come out now for Donald Trump with all these different

00:01:13.980 indictments in different states.

00:01:15.080 It could be like the days before Super Tuesday when any normal candidate would be on the campaign

00:01:19.880 trail.

00:01:20.260 You just mentioned why you guys didn't do Secret Service.

00:01:23.380 That's how important it is to be fast.

00:01:26.340 To actually be campaigning.

00:01:27.460 Right.

00:01:27.720 To be campaigning.

00:01:29.240 We're seeing two things now that seem to be marking the calendar.

00:01:32.880 One, you could throw this guy in a courtroom during dates when he desperately needs to be

00:01:36.220 out campaigning, taking away his ability to have a fair election against Joe Biden or whoever

00:01:40.500 it may be.

00:01:41.100 And two, now you may take away the president, former president of the United States of America

00:01:46.780 and the leading candidate for the Republican Party's voice to talk about the accusations

00:01:52.500 against him from the leftists and these people, these DAs are trying to lock him up by putting

00:01:58.700 a gag order on what he can say.

00:02:00.760 This seems un-American.

00:02:02.440 It seems banana Republic-esque.

00:02:04.800 I think it's disgusting political ploy here, yet that's what we're really talking about now

00:02:09.040 is that real possibility.

00:02:10.060 Look, you're exactly right.

00:02:12.080 We have talked at length on this podcast about how the multiple indictments against Donald

00:02:16.320 Trump are election interference.

00:02:19.060 Democrats have convinced themselves that Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler.

00:02:23.300 And because they believe he's Hitler, anything, anything, anything is justified to stop him. 0.63

00:02:28.880 The ends justify the means.

00:02:30.840 And they're willing to corrupt the legal process to turn the Department of Justice into a political

00:02:36.340 weapon.

00:02:36.760 They're willing to do everything they can to stop the voters from daring to make a decision

00:02:42.300 to vote in the way these angry partisan Democrats don't want the voters to vote.

00:02:47.460 We've gone over 200 years of our nation's history.

00:02:49.860 We've never indicted a president or a former president or a major candidate for president.

00:02:53.740 In the last six months, Democrats have done so four separate times.

00:02:56.880 The U.S. Department of Justice under Biden is the most partisan and political we've ever

00:03:01.300 seen.

00:03:01.720 And Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, we've talked at length.

00:03:05.440 He is a partisan.

00:03:06.740 He has a history of abusing power, including this is not the first presidential candidate

00:03:12.960 or potential presidential candidate he's gone after.

00:03:15.960 He went after Bob McDonnell.

00:03:17.040 The governor of Virginia was considered a credible presidential candidate.

00:03:22.200 Jack Smith indicted him, destroyed his political career, destroyed his life.

00:03:26.900 And then on appeal, the Supreme Court unanimously threw out the conviction as not being consistent

00:03:31.740 with law, but he'd already done its job.

00:03:33.760 He took him out.

00:03:34.840 He took him out.

00:03:35.820 In this instance, the case in the District of Columbia is profoundly dangerous.

00:03:40.720 It's profoundly dangerous because, number one, the jury pool in the District of Columbia

00:03:44.340 is over 90 percent, about 94 percent Democrat.

00:03:48.460 So you're going to get a jury that in all likelihood hates Donald Trump and believes he's

00:03:53.360 Adolf Hitler.

00:03:54.220 Now, if you believe someone's Adolf Hitler, that's not a hard guilty for whatever the crime 0.95

00:04:01.300 is.

00:04:01.480 Yeah, it's just you hate him.

00:04:02.720 If it's Adolf Hitler, the answer is guilty. 0.95

00:04:05.660 Yes.

00:04:06.140 We also have a district judge who has demonstrated and earned a reputation as being one of the

00:04:12.600 furthest left Democrat district judges on the federal bench in D.C. who is presiding.

00:04:18.560 This trial is designed to directly interfere with the election.

00:04:21.900 But Jack Smith said this is not enough.

00:04:24.080 And so he filed a motion, a motion for a gag order.

00:04:28.660 So he's gone to this left wing district judge and he's asked for a gag order.

00:04:32.940 He says defendant has repeatedly and widely disseminated public statements attacking the

00:04:38.700 citizens of the District of Columbia.

00:04:40.140 That's by daring to point out that 94 percent of D.C. voters vote Democrat and that's going

00:04:45.720 to be the jury pool.

00:04:47.180 The court, that's by pointing out that the judge has a record of being one of the most

00:04:52.380 left wing Democrats on the entire federal bench.

00:04:55.720 Prosecutors, that's by pointing out that Jack Smith is a hardcore partisan Democrat who's

00:04:59.960 already abused his power repeatedly and prospective witnesses.

00:05:05.560 The government, therefore, requests that the court, quote, enter a narrowly tailored order

00:05:11.180 pursuant to local criminal rule 57C that restricts certain prejudicial extrajudicial statements.

00:05:20.600 And in particular, what they ask for, the government seeks, this is a quote, a narrow, well-defined restriction

00:05:30.400 that is targeted at extrajudicial statements that present a serious and substantial danger

00:05:36.080 of materially prejudicing the case.

00:05:38.580 The government's proposed order specifies that such statements would include, A, statements

00:05:44.700 regarding the identity, testimony, or credibility of prospective witnesses, and B, statements about

00:05:51.400 any party, witness, attorney, court personnel, or potential jurors that are disparaging and

00:05:58.040 inflammatory or intimidating.

00:06:00.560 Now, let's be clear.

00:06:01.420 Who do they mean by potential witnesses?

00:06:03.220 They mean people like Bill Barr.

00:06:04.980 Yep.

00:06:05.580 And they mean people like Mike Pence.

00:06:07.280 So Mike Pence is literally running against Donald Trump right now for the Republican nomination

00:06:16.160 for president.

00:06:17.280 And you have the Biden Department of Justice asking a federal judge issue an order that Donald

00:06:24.020 Trump cannot say a critical word of Mike Pence about one of his opponents in the primary. 0.98

00:06:30.300 Like, holy crap. 0.99

00:06:32.740 If this doesn't piss you off, you're not paying attention. 0.99

00:06:36.240 I mean, it is truly breathtaking.

00:06:39.100 You want to understand why this is election interference.

00:06:42.220 DOJ believes the federal court can order one political candidate you're not allowed to

00:06:48.640 criticize your opponent.

00:06:50.120 Just don't say a word.

00:06:52.040 Don't say a word at all.

00:06:54.080 Despite the fact that you're facing a political persecution designed to interfere with the election,

00:06:58.780 you're not allowed to say it.

00:07:00.360 And if you do, by the way, look, a gag order is typically enforced by contempt and by jail.

00:07:06.240 So what the Biden DOJ is proposing is if Donald Trump says a negative word about Mike Pence,

00:07:12.860 that the U.S. Department of Justice will show up and arrest him and put him in jail for saying a

00:07:19.920 negative word about one of his opponents running for president.

00:07:22.460 And by the way, they would do that.

00:07:23.440 Let's be clear.

00:07:24.280 They would love to arrest him again.

00:07:26.000 That's what they want and to keep him in jail.

00:07:29.080 This is election interference.

00:07:30.900 It is wildly unconstitutional.

00:07:33.480 It is a direct violation of the First Amendment.

00:07:36.460 It is also a direct violation of the right to vote, of our democratic process in this country.

00:07:41.740 Now, the Democrat talking heads will say, look, sometimes you have gag orders.

00:07:47.800 If you're going against a mafia boss, you're going up against Al Capone, courts will enter orders saying,

00:07:54.200 OK, you can't intimidate witnesses.

00:07:57.180 You can't say things that will prejudice the jury.

00:08:00.140 You're right.

00:08:00.600 In an ordinary criminal trial, those things can happen.

00:08:03.260 In an ordinary criminal trial, the defendant is not a leading candidate for president of the United States,

00:08:09.800 actively running for president of the United States.

00:08:12.660 And my guess, I don't think the district court will grant this.

00:08:17.540 I don't know that.

00:08:18.520 I don't know this judge at all.

00:08:19.700 I've never met her.

00:08:20.960 Her record demonstrates she's left wing. 0.98

00:08:23.020 But I think if the district court granted this order, it would be exceptionally foolish. 0.96

00:08:28.960 Why?

00:08:29.600 Because the order would be appealed and it would be overturned on appeal.

00:08:32.420 I do not believe there's any way the Supreme Court of the United States would allow a leading candidate for president to be enjoined,

00:08:40.980 to be ordered from a court.

00:08:42.660 You are not allowed to criticize your political opponents.

00:08:45.880 I mean, if you could envision, imagine a debate.

00:08:47.960 We have a subsequent Republican debate.

00:08:49.960 Trump shows up and Mike Pence blasts him and Trump turns and says, I'm sorry, I'm prevented by court order from responding to you.

00:08:58.840 Yeah, from defending myself.

00:09:00.300 That is not free speech.

00:09:02.680 That is not democracy.

00:09:04.460 That is not how our system operates.

00:09:07.000 And that's election interference.

00:09:09.340 Exactly.

00:09:10.280 Perfect example of what election.

00:09:12.040 Perfectly encapsulates.

00:09:13.000 And by the way, that's what they want.

00:09:15.000 Actually, what they want.

00:09:16.980 Look, they know in that circumstance, Donald Trump could not restrain himself.

00:09:20.680 Sure.

00:09:20.940 And then they would arrest him.

00:09:21.700 And then they would arrest him.

00:09:22.680 I mean, you can almost envision the jackbooted thugs sitting by the side of the debate.

00:09:27.360 And as Trump blasts his opponents and he'll blast all his opponents because that's what he does.

00:09:32.280 You can almost envision them walking out in the middle of the debate and saying, sir, you're under arrest. 0.91

00:09:36.240 If that is not election interference, holy cow.

00:09:41.000 Well, it really shows just how extreme the Democrats have gotten.

00:09:45.900 This is horrific.

00:09:46.860 By the way, let's be clear.

00:09:48.480 I would be every bit as opposed to an order preventing Joe Biden from criticizing his opponents, from criticizing RFK Jr., from criticizing Donald Trump.

00:09:59.000 Now, to be clear, Joe Biden couldn't get up in the morning and speak without criticizing Donald Trump.

00:10:03.660 He says, good morning. 0.99

00:10:04.680 Trump is the devil. 1.00

00:10:05.440 That's just how he addresses it. 1.00

00:10:07.260 And he also demonizes every other Republican because he's in his mental enfeeblement.

00:10:12.940 He's also become an even more vicious partisan.

00:10:16.100 But I would be equally and adamantly opposed to any court trying to prevent Joe Biden from attacking me or Trump or anybody else because that's what free speech and elections are all about.

00:10:27.120 But today's Democrats, they don't believe in democracy, which is why these indictments are happening.

00:10:32.660 They want to stop the voters from voting in a way they don't like.

00:10:35.700 And they don't believe in free speech, which is why they want to muzzle their leading opponent for president.

00:10:42.000 It is – it's a brave new world we're living in.

00:10:45.360 Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier this week.

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00:11:23.820 Now on to story number two.

00:11:26.460 Let's talk about Ray Epps for a second and remind people of Ray Epps.

00:11:31.600 You and I have talked about this on the show before.

00:11:34.320 It's something that came up, obviously, with the director, the FBI director, also with the Attorney General, Merrick Garland.

00:11:43.220 But Ray Epps, out of nowhere, many people believe he was an undercover Fed.

00:11:48.100 There were people even chanting at January 6th, Fed, Fed, Fed.

00:11:50.960 He was the guy telling people we're going to storm the place the night before, caught on tape.

00:11:54.820 He's the guy that was pushing on the barricades.

00:11:56.620 He was the guy that was encouraging people to break into the Capitol on January 6th.

00:12:00.320 Had not been charged with anything.

00:12:01.660 Now, fast forward multiple years later, and we find out this last week that, yes, Ray Epps has now officially been charged with a misdemeanor.

00:12:13.580 Meanwhile, we're literally sending grandmothers to prison that were in and around January the 6th, rounding up people all over the country.

00:12:21.940 Even just days ago, we saw another person rounded up.

00:12:24.960 We put some different people in jail for decades now for January the 6th.

00:12:29.940 But Ray Epps, who clearly was a ringleader, at least on the day before January 6th, and January 6th, all of a sudden gets a misdemeanor.

00:12:37.860 And we still can't get a straight answer from Merrick Garland.

00:12:41.560 I want you to hear Representative Thomas Massey and his back and forth, and then your reaction.

00:12:46.520 You're citing the Constitution.

00:12:47.940 I'm going to cite it.

00:12:49.040 It's our constitutional duty to do oversight.

00:12:51.280 Now, in that video, that was your answer to a question to me two years ago, when I said, how many agents or assets of the government were present on January 5th and January 6th, and agitating in the crowd to go into the Capitol, and how many went into the Capitol?

00:13:05.860 Can you answer that now?

00:13:07.300 I don't know the answer to that question.

00:13:09.520 Oh, last time, you don't know how many there were, or there were none?

00:13:13.100 I don't know the answer to either of those questions.

00:13:15.920 If there were any, I don't know how many.

00:13:18.060 I don't know whether there are any.

00:13:20.220 I think you may have just perjured yourself that you don't know that there were any.

00:13:24.380 You want to say that again, that you don't know that there were any?

00:13:26.800 I have no personal knowledge of this matter.

00:13:29.180 I think what I said the last time.

00:13:31.060 You've had two years to find out.

00:13:33.700 And the day, by the way, that was in reference to Ray Epps.

00:13:36.280 And yesterday, you indicted him.

00:13:38.260 Isn't that a wonderful coincidence?

00:13:40.160 On a misdemeanor.

00:13:41.780 Meanwhile, you're sending grandmas to prison. 1.00

00:13:44.340 You're putting people away for 20 years for merely filming.

00:13:48.180 Some people weren't even there, yet you've got the guy on video who's saying go into the Capitol.

00:13:52.720 He's directing people to the Capitol before the speech ends.

00:13:55.860 He's at the site of the first breach.

00:13:57.920 You've got all the goods on him, 10 videos, and it's an indictment for a misdemeanor.

00:14:03.280 The American public isn't buying it.

00:14:05.320 I yield the balance of my time to Chairman Jordan.

00:14:07.220 May I answer the question?

00:14:09.580 I'm going to ask you one now.

00:14:12.000 We'll let the gentleman. 0.95

00:14:13.680 Yeah.

00:14:17.120 Go ahead.

00:14:17.820 In discovery, in the cases that were filed with respect to January 6th, the Justice Department prosecutors provided whatever information they had about the question that you're asking.

00:14:31.880 With respect to Mr. Epps, the FBI has said that he was not an employee or informant of the FBI.

00:14:41.940 Mr. Epps has been charged, and there's a proceeding, I believe, going on today on that subject.

00:14:48.040 The charge is a joke.

00:14:49.060 I yield to the chairman.

00:14:49.720 I love the end there.

00:14:51.340 The charge is a joke.

00:14:52.240 I yield to the chairman.

00:14:53.500 He's right about that, based on everything we know about Ray Epps.

00:14:56.720 So who is the guy?

00:14:58.420 Well, look, it's a very good question, and you see the Attorney General once again dodging.

00:15:03.580 And, you know, one of the most telling moments of that exchange is when Merrick Garland says, well, I don't even know if there were any FBI agents there.

00:15:12.660 And I think the point was made quite accurately that what Merrick Garland said there was almost certainly a deliberate lie.

00:15:22.220 Look, an earlier verdict we did, actually, before you and I teamed up, back when it was Michael Knowles and me, we had an entire episode of Verdict that was entitled, Who is Ray Epps?

00:15:35.060 And you ought to go on YouTube, and it was episode 104 of Verdict, Who is Ray Epps?

00:15:41.560 And it followed questioning that I had done in the Judiciary Committee of senior officials at the Department of Justice and the FBI, where I asked them who Ray Epps was.

00:15:52.060 And if he had been, if he was an employee of the FBI, if he was a confidential informant, they refused to answer.

00:15:59.740 They stonewalled. 1.00

00:16:00.760 I asked the question, did you have agents there?

00:16:03.720 They refused to answer.

00:16:04.880 They stonewalled. 1.00

00:16:05.680 I asked whether federal agents incited violence.

00:16:08.820 They refused to answer.

00:16:09.920 They stonewalled. 1.00

00:16:10.840 And so this has been a pattern for a long time.

00:16:13.960 And now Merrick Garland is pleading ignorance that he has no idea what the Department of Justice's involvement was in inciting violence or criminality on January 6th.

00:16:27.700 I can tell you this is also in the wake of the Department of Justice losing the case they brought against the individuals that were charged with a plot to kidnap and murder the Michigan governor.

00:16:40.840 Uh, Gretchen Whitmer.

00:16:43.660 And the basis of their losing was that the FBI had engaged in entrapment, that they had incited the criminality.

00:16:52.940 And so it's an...

00:16:54.040 Can you explain a little bit more what that means, inciting criminality, so people understand it?

00:16:58.460 Well, law enforcement can't entrap you into committing a crime.

00:17:03.020 In other words, if the police send an undercover agent to you and they say, hey, Ben, there's a car parked on the street.

00:17:11.560 It's got the keys in it.

00:17:13.100 Why don't you steal that car?

00:17:15.020 Come on, Ben, you can do it.

00:17:16.280 Just steal that car.

00:17:17.100 Just hop in there, turn the keys and take it.

00:17:19.380 If they do that, that's an example of entrapment where they're the ones, they're the impetus, they're the genesis for the criminality.

00:17:27.020 And you might never have stolen the car otherwise if it were not for the law enforcement officer who is prompting you to do it.

00:17:36.720 And so it's a defense that a criminal defendant can give is, look, this was the government's idea.

00:17:42.240 They entrapped me into doing it.

00:17:44.320 And the basis, the central defense of these defendants in Michigan was that undercover informants for the FBI, they're the ones who had suggested the plot.

00:17:55.600 They're the ones who drove it forward.

00:17:57.720 And these guys were acquitted.

00:18:00.040 The charges were thrown out.

00:18:01.440 And the fact that the Biden DOJ is caught with absolute misconduct is really stunning.

00:18:14.420 And, of course, the corrupt corporate media completely ignores it.

00:18:19.240 And it's exactly relevant to the question that was just raised about January 6th, which is to what degree did the criminal conduct that occurred,

00:18:28.480 did the violence that occur on that day, to what degree did law enforcement agents incite it or prompt it?

00:18:35.180 And the reason there's so much focus on Ray Epps is he was caught on tape repeatedly saying,

00:18:41.460 let's go into the Capitol, not just up to the Capitol, into the Capitol.

00:18:44.740 And there's one point where his behavior was so odd that the entire crowd begins chanting, fed, fed, fed, fed.

00:18:52.260 And so that's why I asked a senior leader at the FBI if Ray Epps was a fed, and she refused to answer that question.

00:19:00.800 Merrick Garland now is pleading complete ignorance.

00:19:03.540 He knows nothing of what happened on January 6th, except for the fact that he has told Congress repeatedly

00:19:09.020 that they've devoted more resources to prosecuting individuals involved with January 6th

00:19:15.140 than any other matter in DOJ's history, which is truly a stunning misallocation of resources.

00:19:21.720 But it's yet another example of how the Biden DOJ is about politics all of the time.

00:19:28.700 And if you could target your political enemies, they're more than eager to do so.

00:19:33.200 Senator, finally, there was one part that I really thought wrapped up just how bad

00:19:39.540 this back and forth was, this testimony before Congress, and the Justice Department oversight

00:19:46.560 when Merrick Garland was asked a pretty simple question, and that's, hey,

00:19:50.520 why do you act like you're the president's lawyer?

00:19:53.000 That's not your job.

00:19:54.760 Our job is not to do what is politically convenient.

00:19:58.240 Our job is not to take orders from the president, from Congress, or from anyone else

00:20:05.100 about who or what to criminally investigate.

00:20:08.880 As the president himself has said, and I reaffirmed today, I am not the president's lawyer.

00:20:16.100 I will add, I am not Congress's prosecutor.

00:20:20.360 The Justice Department works for the American people.

00:20:24.100 Our job is to follow the facts and the law, and that is what we do.

00:20:29.220 I don't believe him. 0.96

00:20:30.820 I think he's a pathological liar at this point. 0.94

00:20:33.340 I don't think he can be trusted. 0.94

00:20:34.800 And I think he's weaponized the DOJ and turned it into a weapon of the president of the United States of America,

00:20:40.820 no matter what he says with his rhetoric there in those pre-scripted, clear talking points.

00:20:47.280 They knew this was a problem for them.

00:20:49.460 And so that's why they had him say it this way.

00:20:51.940 Well, John Mitchell is rolling over in his grave.

00:20:55.320 John Mitchell was Richard Nixon's attorney general.

00:20:58.040 He was indicted.

00:20:58.920 He was prosecuted.

00:20:59.840 He served 22 months in jail for his corruption.

00:21:03.540 And John Mitchell never dared be as brazen as Merrick Garland.

00:21:07.900 Merrick Garland, look, in the New York Times reported that Joe Biden, quote,

00:21:16.040 told confidence that he wanted Attorney General Merrick Garland to stop acting like a ponderous judge and to take decisive action.

00:21:25.800 Joe Biden knew exactly what he was getting with Merrick Garland.

00:21:28.940 He was getting someone willing to use the weaponry of the Department of Justice to target his enemies

00:21:35.560 and simultaneously willing to do whatever is necessary to protect the president, to protect Hunter Biden, to protect Democrats.

00:21:43.100 And I will underscore again, we've got multiple whistleblowers, career employees at the IRS who've come forward,

00:21:51.280 two different whistleblowers, to say what Merrick Garland just said there is flat out false

00:21:56.320 because the Department of Justice has systematically obstructed justice, obstructed the investigation into Hunter Biden

00:22:05.100 and especially into Joe Biden.

00:22:07.500 And so he can say over and over again, I'm not the president's lawyer.

00:22:10.960 And yet he behaves exactly like he's the president's lawyer.

00:22:15.600 Should this be an election year issue just the way that the DOJ has been weaponized and specifically?

00:22:22.440 Should Republicans be targeting Merrick Garland for the way he's acting?

00:22:26.480 The weaponization and politicization of the Department of Justice, of the FBI,

00:22:30.820 of the machinery of federal government, I think is a major election issue. 0.80

00:22:34.940 And it is a major reason to throw these clowns out because it has done more to undermine the rule of law

00:22:41.720 than anything that we have seen in decades, if ever. 0.87

00:22:49.720 As before, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic,

00:22:54.080 you can go back and download the podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.

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00:23:29.860 I want to get back to the big story number three of the week you may have missed.

00:23:34.220 Senator, there was also something else that happened a year ago.

00:23:37.300 If you go backwards, the president of the United States of America was in New York City.

00:23:43.200 And when he was there, he was at the U.N. addressing the U.N.

00:23:46.560 He had meetings with Mayor Adams, the mayor of New York City,

00:23:49.340 and even did fundraisers with the mayor of New York City.

00:23:53.700 This year, things are a little different.

00:23:56.100 He's not going to sit down and meet with Mayor Adams

00:23:58.560 because Mayor Adams has been critical of the migrant crisis,

00:24:02.200 the illegal immigrant crisis that is, you know, destroying, in his words, his city. 1.00

00:24:07.000 And he's not even going to go to the migrant center that's just two blocks away.

00:24:13.240 Listen to this.

00:24:14.080 Despite the U.N. being just four avenues away from the Roosevelt Hotel,

00:24:18.100 which is the migrant intake center here in New York City,

00:24:21.360 the president has no plans to visit or address the migrant crisis here in New York.

00:24:26.500 In fact, he has no plans to meet with Mayor Adams during his three-day visit,

00:24:30.580 a departure from last year when the two met and attended fundraisers together.

00:24:35.940 The federal government also making no indication that they intend to increase funding to New York City.

00:24:41.120 FEMA providing $104 million.

00:24:44.160 For context, that covers just 13 days of the crisis here.

00:24:47.780 The Biden administration frustrated with Adams' response and his inability to stop the crisis,

00:24:53.280 also pointing the finger at Congress to do more.

00:24:55.920 I mean, it's amazing how your best friend and the guy that you're campaigning with and fundraising with a year ago,

00:25:02.680 now you won't even give him the time of day because he won't get in line and say what you're saying.

00:25:06.560 Yet, the real coward here, Senator, seems to be Adams and every other Democrat,

00:25:11.920 whether it's in San Diego, whether it's on the border, or whether it's in New York City,

00:25:16.340 who refused to say out loud, President Joe Biden, do your job, and close the border, secure the border.

00:25:24.180 They will not say those words.

00:25:26.600 Nope, none of them will.

00:25:28.380 And they still claim to be sanctuary cities.

00:25:30.780 They say it's destroying their city, but they're still a sanctuary city. 0.91

00:25:34.380 You know, the fact that Mayor Adams uses the phrase, that madman in Texas,

00:25:40.640 and blames it all on Greg Adams, on Greg Abbott.

00:25:44.260 Look, from his perspective, he knows it's the Democrats who've caused this.

00:25:48.840 But at this point, his partisan loyalty is just greater.

00:25:52.340 So he's not willing to call out Joe Biden.

00:25:54.540 He's not willing to call out Kamala Harris.

00:25:56.240 He's certainly not willing to call out Chuck Schumer,

00:25:58.940 or any of the Senate Democrats or congressional Democrats.

00:26:02.440 He's not calling out AOC, although, you know, as we talked about,

00:26:07.120 when AOC and Jerry Nadler and other congressional Democrats

00:26:10.020 recently had a press conference in New York,

00:26:12.920 even New Yorkers were fed up and screaming at them. 0.81

00:26:15.760 And yet, at the end of the day, the hypocrisy is so massive.

00:26:22.940 But even acknowledging it's a problem is too much for Joe Biden.

00:26:27.760 And so now Mayor Adams is persona non grata

00:26:30.080 because he acknowledges that it's a problem.

00:26:32.680 You're supposed to utterly ignore it and just let people suffer.

00:26:37.820 And it is, you know, I get asked a question over and over again.

00:26:41.880 Why would the Democrats do this?

00:26:44.600 And I don't know for sure.

00:26:46.600 Listen, I'm not a psychiatrist.

00:26:48.860 I'm not Sigmund Freud.

00:26:50.280 So I don't know what's going on in their head.

00:26:52.340 I know, number one, they don't care.

00:26:53.800 And the reason I know they don't care, because if they cared,

00:26:57.100 they would do something about it.

00:26:58.200 They would stop the policy decisions that are causing it to happen,

00:27:01.940 that are causing people to be killed, that are causing children to be brutalized,

00:27:05.140 that are causing women to be sexually assaulted. 0.99

00:27:07.140 If they cared, they would behave differently tomorrow.

00:27:09.980 And they don't.

00:27:11.040 Biden doesn't.

00:27:12.040 Kamala Harris doesn't.

00:27:13.960 Alejandro Mayorkas doesn't.

00:27:15.200 But the only explanation I can come up with is really twofold.

00:27:19.560 Number one, that they've handed the policy agenda over to the real radicals,

00:27:24.900 to the open border nuts on the extreme left of the Democrat Party.

00:27:28.920 And they've done that on almost every single issue.

00:27:31.600 But number two is I think the Democrats rationalize to themselves

00:27:36.660 there's a long-term political benefit they see,

00:27:40.340 that they view every one of the 7.2 million illegal immigrants,

00:27:44.580 they view them as likely future Democrat voters.

00:27:48.340 And their view is, well, if we stay in power, the ends justify the means.

00:27:53.560 If some people have to die for Democrats to stay in power, well, that's okay with them.

00:27:59.320 And it's, look, saying that, that sounds horrendously callous and heartless.

00:28:05.940 But I guess, Ben, what I would say is, if I'm wrong,

00:28:09.620 if I'm ascribing too callous and heartless a motive,

00:28:13.000 what other explanation is there beside that?

00:28:17.140 Because I don't know of one.

00:28:18.840 Yeah, great point.

00:28:19.600 I want to end with what you mentioned, the reporting that's being done.

00:28:23.560 Down at the border by Fox reporter Bill Malugian.

00:28:27.380 And he said this on Fox that I think perfectly wraps up the last 72 hours.

00:28:35.260 Hi, Martha. 0.86

00:28:36.020 Well, these surging border numbers are really put into context

00:28:38.420 when you think about the fact that New York City Mayor Eric Adams said

00:28:41.600 his city can't handle 10,000 migrants per month.

00:28:44.980 Well, they're getting 9,000 a day down here at the southern border.

00:28:48.680 A lot of them crossing right here in Eagle Pass.

00:28:50.500 Take a look at this video.

00:28:51.740 Our fantastic drone team shot showing a mass illegal crossing in the river

00:28:55.800 right behind where I'm standing.

00:28:57.240 You'll see a human chain in the water as they're trying to get across the river.

00:29:01.860 Very dangerous spot.

00:29:03.300 A 10-year-old boy drowned in this area last week.

00:29:06.500 The port of entry is right next to these people, just 100 yards away.

00:29:10.900 They don't care, though.

00:29:12.020 They want to cross illegally because they feel if they can step foot in the United States, 0.99

00:29:15.900 they're going to be released into the country.

00:29:18.300 I also want to show you human smuggling pursuit.

00:29:20.680 Take a look at this video.

00:29:21.640 Texas DPS chasing a human smuggler in Kinney County.

00:29:24.860 High-speed chase.

00:29:25.680 The driver, an illegal immigrant, driving a stolen truck loaded with illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:29:30.020 They spike his tires.

00:29:31.860 He goes off-road into the brush, loses control.

00:29:34.580 And then you'll see on the thermal camera, everybody goes bailing out of that vehicle,

00:29:38.160 running off in all different directions.

00:29:40.080 Texas DPS arrested the driver and six illegal immigrants.

00:29:43.460 Last thing to show you down in the Rio Grande Valley with Texas DPS troopers in the brush

00:29:47.400 as they are arresting illegal immigrants trying to evade capture from Border Patrol.

00:29:52.960 Several of them were wearing cartel wristbands,

00:29:55.960 indicating they had paid a cartel to get across illegally.

00:29:58.760 And back out here live, Martha, concerning Border Patrol agents reporting that right here in Eagle Pass,

00:30:03.960 they just arrested an illegal immigrant with a murder conviction

00:30:06.760 and another illegal immigrant with a conviction for sexual assault of a child.

00:30:12.080 We'll send it back to you. 0.93

00:30:13.000 No big deal, right?

00:30:14.000 No big deal. 0.99

00:30:14.580 Yeah, just people that are killing people and people that are raping children. 0.95

00:30:17.380 That's who we're catching when we do catch them coming across the border.

00:30:21.400 And you heard him mention those wristbands,

00:30:23.180 the same wristbands that the man who's in charge of the border said he didn't know what they were

00:30:28.460 when you showed them to him before Congress.

00:30:31.440 No, that's exactly right, that Bill Blugian is actually down on the border who's reporting on what's happening.

00:30:36.160 He knows what the wristbands are.

00:30:37.920 They're color-coded for how many thousands of dollars they owe the cartels.

00:30:40.920 And yet the Secretary of Homeland Security told me under oath before the Senate Judiciary Committee

00:30:45.640 he had no idea what they were because he simply doesn't care and neither do his political superiors.

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