Trump Court Dates are Campaign Interference, Who is Ray Epps, and Joe Biden Shrugs off NYC Mayor Adams Week In Review
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If you put Donald Trump in a courtroom on purpose on a day like Super Tuesday so he can t campaign, is that election interference? Also, why did Ray Epps get away with January the 6th and why have they been protecting him? And finally, Joe Biden s not getting along very well with Democratic mayors across the country who are starting to turn on him on illegal immigration.
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And these are the big stories that you may have missed that we talked about this week.
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The number one story we're going to start with today deals with election interference.
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And if you put Donald Trump in a courtroom on purpose on a day like, for example, Super
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Tuesday, so he can't campaign, is that not the definition of election interference?
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So how did Ray Epps get away with January the 6th and why have they been protecting him
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And finally, Joe Biden's not getting along very well with Democratic mayors across the
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country who are starting to turn on him on illegal immigration.
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So what does this mean for getting a deal done with Mayor Adams in New York?
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It is the Weekend Review with Ted Cruz, and it starts right now.
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Judges getting involved in a way that I think is pretty clear to election interference.
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We've seen court dates that have come out now for Donald Trump with all these different
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It could be like the days before Super Tuesday when any normal candidate would be on the campaign
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You just mentioned why you guys didn't do Secret Service.
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We're seeing two things now that seem to be marking the calendar.
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One, you could throw this guy in a courtroom during dates when he desperately needs to be
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out campaigning, taking away his ability to have a fair election against Joe Biden or whoever
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And two, now you may take away the president, former president of the United States of America
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and the leading candidate for the Republican Party's voice to talk about the accusations
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against him from the leftists and these people, these DAs are trying to lock him up by putting
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I think it's disgusting political ploy here, yet that's what we're really talking about now
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We have talked at length on this podcast about how the multiple indictments against Donald
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Democrats have convinced themselves that Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler.
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And because they believe he's Hitler, anything, anything, anything is justified to stop him.
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And they're willing to corrupt the legal process to turn the Department of Justice into a political
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They're willing to do everything they can to stop the voters from daring to make a decision
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to vote in the way these angry partisan Democrats don't want the voters to vote.
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We've gone over 200 years of our nation's history.
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We've never indicted a president or a former president or a major candidate for president.
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In the last six months, Democrats have done so four separate times.
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The U.S. Department of Justice under Biden is the most partisan and political we've ever
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And Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, we've talked at length.
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He has a history of abusing power, including this is not the first presidential candidate
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or potential presidential candidate he's gone after.
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The governor of Virginia was considered a credible presidential candidate.
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Jack Smith indicted him, destroyed his political career, destroyed his life.
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And then on appeal, the Supreme Court unanimously threw out the conviction as not being consistent
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In this instance, the case in the District of Columbia is profoundly dangerous.
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It's profoundly dangerous because, number one, the jury pool in the District of Columbia
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So you're going to get a jury that in all likelihood hates Donald Trump and believes he's
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Now, if you believe someone's Adolf Hitler, that's not a hard guilty for whatever the crime
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If it's Adolf Hitler, the answer is guilty.
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We also have a district judge who has demonstrated and earned a reputation as being one of the
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furthest left Democrat district judges on the federal bench in D.C. who is presiding.
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This trial is designed to directly interfere with the election.
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And so he filed a motion, a motion for a gag order.
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So he's gone to this left wing district judge and he's asked for a gag order.
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He says defendant has repeatedly and widely disseminated public statements attacking the
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That's by daring to point out that 94 percent of D.C. voters vote Democrat and that's going
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The court, that's by pointing out that the judge has a record of being one of the most
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left wing Democrats on the entire federal bench.
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Prosecutors, that's by pointing out that Jack Smith is a hardcore partisan Democrat who's
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already abused his power repeatedly and prospective witnesses.
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The government, therefore, requests that the court, quote, enter a narrowly tailored order
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pursuant to local criminal rule 57C that restricts certain prejudicial extrajudicial statements.
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And in particular, what they ask for, the government seeks, this is a quote, a narrow, well-defined restriction
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that is targeted at extrajudicial statements that present a serious and substantial danger
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The government's proposed order specifies that such statements would include, A, statements
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regarding the identity, testimony, or credibility of prospective witnesses, and B, statements about
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any party, witness, attorney, court personnel, or potential jurors that are disparaging and
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So Mike Pence is literally running against Donald Trump right now for the Republican nomination
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And you have the Biden Department of Justice asking a federal judge issue an order that Donald
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Trump cannot say a critical word of Mike Pence about one of his opponents in the primary.
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If this doesn't piss you off, you're not paying attention.
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You want to understand why this is election interference.
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DOJ believes the federal court can order one political candidate you're not allowed to
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Despite the fact that you're facing a political persecution designed to interfere with the election,
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And if you do, by the way, look, a gag order is typically enforced by contempt and by jail.
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So what the Biden DOJ is proposing is if Donald Trump says a negative word about Mike Pence,
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that the U.S. Department of Justice will show up and arrest him and put him in jail for saying a
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negative word about one of his opponents running for president.
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It is a direct violation of the First Amendment.
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It is also a direct violation of the right to vote, of our democratic process in this country.
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Now, the Democrat talking heads will say, look, sometimes you have gag orders.
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If you're going against a mafia boss, you're going up against Al Capone, courts will enter orders saying,
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You can't say things that will prejudice the jury.
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In an ordinary criminal trial, those things can happen.
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In an ordinary criminal trial, the defendant is not a leading candidate for president of the United States,
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actively running for president of the United States.
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And my guess, I don't think the district court will grant this.
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But I think if the district court granted this order, it would be exceptionally foolish.
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Because the order would be appealed and it would be overturned on appeal.
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I do not believe there's any way the Supreme Court of the United States would allow a leading candidate for president to be enjoined,
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You are not allowed to criticize your political opponents.
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I mean, if you could envision, imagine a debate.
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Trump shows up and Mike Pence blasts him and Trump turns and says, I'm sorry, I'm prevented by court order from responding to you.
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Look, they know in that circumstance, Donald Trump could not restrain himself.
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I mean, you can almost envision the jackbooted thugs sitting by the side of the debate.
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And as Trump blasts his opponents and he'll blast all his opponents because that's what he does.
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You can almost envision them walking out in the middle of the debate and saying, sir, you're under arrest.
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If that is not election interference, holy cow.
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Well, it really shows just how extreme the Democrats have gotten.
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I would be every bit as opposed to an order preventing Joe Biden from criticizing his opponents, from criticizing RFK Jr., from criticizing Donald Trump.
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Now, to be clear, Joe Biden couldn't get up in the morning and speak without criticizing Donald Trump.
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And he also demonizes every other Republican because he's in his mental enfeeblement.
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He's also become an even more vicious partisan.
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But I would be equally and adamantly opposed to any court trying to prevent Joe Biden from attacking me or Trump or anybody else because that's what free speech and elections are all about.
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But today's Democrats, they don't believe in democracy, which is why these indictments are happening.
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They want to stop the voters from voting in a way they don't like.
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And they don't believe in free speech, which is why they want to muzzle their leading opponent for president.
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It is – it's a brave new world we're living in.
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Let's talk about Ray Epps for a second and remind people of Ray Epps.
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You and I have talked about this on the show before.
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It's something that came up, obviously, with the director, the FBI director, also with the Attorney General, Merrick Garland.
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But Ray Epps, out of nowhere, many people believe he was an undercover Fed.
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There were people even chanting at January 6th, Fed, Fed, Fed.
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He was the guy telling people we're going to storm the place the night before, caught on tape.
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He's the guy that was pushing on the barricades.
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He was the guy that was encouraging people to break into the Capitol on January 6th.
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Now, fast forward multiple years later, and we find out this last week that, yes, Ray Epps has now officially been charged with a misdemeanor.
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Meanwhile, we're literally sending grandmothers to prison that were in and around January the 6th, rounding up people all over the country.
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Even just days ago, we saw another person rounded up.
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We put some different people in jail for decades now for January the 6th.
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But Ray Epps, who clearly was a ringleader, at least on the day before January 6th, and January 6th, all of a sudden gets a misdemeanor.
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And we still can't get a straight answer from Merrick Garland.
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I want you to hear Representative Thomas Massey and his back and forth, and then your reaction.
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Now, in that video, that was your answer to a question to me two years ago, when I said, how many agents or assets of the government were present on January 5th and January 6th, and agitating in the crowd to go into the Capitol, and how many went into the Capitol?
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Oh, last time, you don't know how many there were, or there were none?
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I don't know the answer to either of those questions.
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I think you may have just perjured yourself that you don't know that there were any.
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You want to say that again, that you don't know that there were any?
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And the day, by the way, that was in reference to Ray Epps.
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Meanwhile, you're sending grandmas to prison.
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You're putting people away for 20 years for merely filming.
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Some people weren't even there, yet you've got the guy on video who's saying go into the Capitol.
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He's directing people to the Capitol before the speech ends.
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You've got all the goods on him, 10 videos, and it's an indictment for a misdemeanor.
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I yield the balance of my time to Chairman Jordan.
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In discovery, in the cases that were filed with respect to January 6th, the Justice Department prosecutors provided whatever information they had about the question that you're asking.
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With respect to Mr. Epps, the FBI has said that he was not an employee or informant of the FBI.
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Mr. Epps has been charged, and there's a proceeding, I believe, going on today on that subject.
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He's right about that, based on everything we know about Ray Epps.
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Well, look, it's a very good question, and you see the Attorney General once again dodging.
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And, you know, one of the most telling moments of that exchange is when Merrick Garland says, well, I don't even know if there were any FBI agents there.
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And I think the point was made quite accurately that what Merrick Garland said there was almost certainly a deliberate lie.
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Look, an earlier verdict we did, actually, before you and I teamed up, back when it was Michael Knowles and me, we had an entire episode of Verdict that was entitled, Who is Ray Epps?
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And you ought to go on YouTube, and it was episode 104 of Verdict, Who is Ray Epps?
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And it followed questioning that I had done in the Judiciary Committee of senior officials at the Department of Justice and the FBI, where I asked them who Ray Epps was.
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And if he had been, if he was an employee of the FBI, if he was a confidential informant, they refused to answer.
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I asked the question, did you have agents there?
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I asked whether federal agents incited violence.
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And so this has been a pattern for a long time.
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And now Merrick Garland is pleading ignorance that he has no idea what the Department of Justice's involvement was in inciting violence or criminality on January 6th.
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I can tell you this is also in the wake of the Department of Justice losing the case they brought against the individuals that were charged with a plot to kidnap and murder the Michigan governor.
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And the basis of their losing was that the FBI had engaged in entrapment, that they had incited the criminality.
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Can you explain a little bit more what that means, inciting criminality, so people understand it?
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Well, law enforcement can't entrap you into committing a crime.
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In other words, if the police send an undercover agent to you and they say, hey, Ben, there's a car parked on the street.
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If they do that, that's an example of entrapment where they're the ones, they're the impetus, they're the genesis for the criminality.
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And you might never have stolen the car otherwise if it were not for the law enforcement officer who is prompting you to do it.
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And so it's a defense that a criminal defendant can give is, look, this was the government's idea.
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And the basis, the central defense of these defendants in Michigan was that undercover informants for the FBI, they're the ones who had suggested the plot.
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And the fact that the Biden DOJ is caught with absolute misconduct is really stunning.
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And, of course, the corrupt corporate media completely ignores it.
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And it's exactly relevant to the question that was just raised about January 6th, which is to what degree did the criminal conduct that occurred,
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did the violence that occur on that day, to what degree did law enforcement agents incite it or prompt it?
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And the reason there's so much focus on Ray Epps is he was caught on tape repeatedly saying,
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let's go into the Capitol, not just up to the Capitol, into the Capitol.
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And there's one point where his behavior was so odd that the entire crowd begins chanting, fed, fed, fed, fed.
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And so that's why I asked a senior leader at the FBI if Ray Epps was a fed, and she refused to answer that question.
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Merrick Garland now is pleading complete ignorance.
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He knows nothing of what happened on January 6th, except for the fact that he has told Congress repeatedly
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that they've devoted more resources to prosecuting individuals involved with January 6th
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than any other matter in DOJ's history, which is truly a stunning misallocation of resources.
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But it's yet another example of how the Biden DOJ is about politics all of the time.
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And if you could target your political enemies, they're more than eager to do so.
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Senator, finally, there was one part that I really thought wrapped up just how bad
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this back and forth was, this testimony before Congress, and the Justice Department oversight
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when Merrick Garland was asked a pretty simple question, and that's, hey,
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why do you act like you're the president's lawyer?
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Our job is not to do what is politically convenient.
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Our job is not to take orders from the president, from Congress, or from anyone else
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As the president himself has said, and I reaffirmed today, I am not the president's lawyer.
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The Justice Department works for the American people.
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Our job is to follow the facts and the law, and that is what we do.
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I think he's a pathological liar at this point.
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And I think he's weaponized the DOJ and turned it into a weapon of the president of the United States of America,
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no matter what he says with his rhetoric there in those pre-scripted, clear talking points.
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And so that's why they had him say it this way.
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Well, John Mitchell is rolling over in his grave.
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John Mitchell was Richard Nixon's attorney general.
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He served 22 months in jail for his corruption.
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And John Mitchell never dared be as brazen as Merrick Garland.
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Merrick Garland, look, in the New York Times reported that Joe Biden, quote,
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told confidence that he wanted Attorney General Merrick Garland to stop acting like a ponderous judge and to take decisive action.
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Joe Biden knew exactly what he was getting with Merrick Garland.
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He was getting someone willing to use the weaponry of the Department of Justice to target his enemies
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and simultaneously willing to do whatever is necessary to protect the president, to protect Hunter Biden, to protect Democrats.
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And I will underscore again, we've got multiple whistleblowers, career employees at the IRS who've come forward,
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two different whistleblowers, to say what Merrick Garland just said there is flat out false
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because the Department of Justice has systematically obstructed justice, obstructed the investigation into Hunter Biden
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And so he can say over and over again, I'm not the president's lawyer.
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And yet he behaves exactly like he's the president's lawyer.
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Should this be an election year issue just the way that the DOJ has been weaponized and specifically?
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Should Republicans be targeting Merrick Garland for the way he's acting?
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The weaponization and politicization of the Department of Justice, of the FBI,
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of the machinery of federal government, I think is a major election issue.
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And it is a major reason to throw these clowns out because it has done more to undermine the rule of law
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than anything that we have seen in decades, if ever.
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As before, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic,
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you can go back and download the podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.
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I want to get back to the big story number three of the week you may have missed.
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Senator, there was also something else that happened a year ago.
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If you go backwards, the president of the United States of America was in New York City.
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And when he was there, he was at the U.N. addressing the U.N.
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He had meetings with Mayor Adams, the mayor of New York City,
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and even did fundraisers with the mayor of New York City.
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He's not going to sit down and meet with Mayor Adams
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because Mayor Adams has been critical of the migrant crisis,
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the illegal immigrant crisis that is, you know, destroying, in his words, his city.
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And he's not even going to go to the migrant center that's just two blocks away.
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Despite the U.N. being just four avenues away from the Roosevelt Hotel,
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which is the migrant intake center here in New York City,
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the president has no plans to visit or address the migrant crisis here in New York.
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In fact, he has no plans to meet with Mayor Adams during his three-day visit,
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a departure from last year when the two met and attended fundraisers together.
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The federal government also making no indication that they intend to increase funding to New York City.
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For context, that covers just 13 days of the crisis here.
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The Biden administration frustrated with Adams' response and his inability to stop the crisis,
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also pointing the finger at Congress to do more.
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I mean, it's amazing how your best friend and the guy that you're campaigning with and fundraising with a year ago,
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now you won't even give him the time of day because he won't get in line and say what you're saying.
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Yet, the real coward here, Senator, seems to be Adams and every other Democrat,
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whether it's in San Diego, whether it's on the border, or whether it's in New York City,
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who refused to say out loud, President Joe Biden, do your job, and close the border, secure the border.
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They say it's destroying their city, but they're still a sanctuary city.
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You know, the fact that Mayor Adams uses the phrase, that madman in Texas,
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and blames it all on Greg Adams, on Greg Abbott.
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Look, from his perspective, he knows it's the Democrats who've caused this.
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But at this point, his partisan loyalty is just greater.
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He's certainly not willing to call out Chuck Schumer,
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or any of the Senate Democrats or congressional Democrats.
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He's not calling out AOC, although, you know, as we talked about,
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when AOC and Jerry Nadler and other congressional Democrats
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even New Yorkers were fed up and screaming at them.
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And yet, at the end of the day, the hypocrisy is so massive.
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But even acknowledging it's a problem is too much for Joe Biden.
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You're supposed to utterly ignore it and just let people suffer.
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And it is, you know, I get asked a question over and over again.
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And the reason I know they don't care, because if they cared,
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They would stop the policy decisions that are causing it to happen,
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that are causing people to be killed, that are causing children to be brutalized,
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that are causing women to be sexually assaulted.
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If they cared, they would behave differently tomorrow.
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But the only explanation I can come up with is really twofold.
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Number one, that they've handed the policy agenda over to the real radicals,
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to the open border nuts on the extreme left of the Democrat Party.
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And they've done that on almost every single issue.
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But number two is I think the Democrats rationalize to themselves
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there's a long-term political benefit they see,
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that they view every one of the 7.2 million illegal immigrants,
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they view them as likely future Democrat voters.
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And their view is, well, if we stay in power, the ends justify the means.
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If some people have to die for Democrats to stay in power, well, that's okay with them.
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And it's, look, saying that, that sounds horrendously callous and heartless.
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But I guess, Ben, what I would say is, if I'm wrong,
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if I'm ascribing too callous and heartless a motive,
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I want to end with what you mentioned, the reporting that's being done.
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Down at the border by Fox reporter Bill Malugian.
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And he said this on Fox that I think perfectly wraps up the last 72 hours.
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Well, these surging border numbers are really put into context
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when you think about the fact that New York City Mayor Eric Adams said
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his city can't handle 10,000 migrants per month.
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Well, they're getting 9,000 a day down here at the southern border.
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A lot of them crossing right here in Eagle Pass.
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Our fantastic drone team shot showing a mass illegal crossing in the river
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You'll see a human chain in the water as they're trying to get across the river.
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A 10-year-old boy drowned in this area last week.
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The port of entry is right next to these people, just 100 yards away.
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They want to cross illegally because they feel if they can step foot in the United States,
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I also want to show you human smuggling pursuit.
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Texas DPS chasing a human smuggler in Kinney County.
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The driver, an illegal immigrant, driving a stolen truck loaded with illegal immigrants.
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He goes off-road into the brush, loses control.
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And then you'll see on the thermal camera, everybody goes bailing out of that vehicle,
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Texas DPS arrested the driver and six illegal immigrants.
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Last thing to show you down in the Rio Grande Valley with Texas DPS troopers in the brush
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as they are arresting illegal immigrants trying to evade capture from Border Patrol.
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Several of them were wearing cartel wristbands,
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indicating they had paid a cartel to get across illegally.
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And back out here live, Martha, concerning Border Patrol agents reporting that right here in Eagle Pass,
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they just arrested an illegal immigrant with a murder conviction
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and another illegal immigrant with a conviction for sexual assault of a child.
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Yeah, just people that are killing people and people that are raping children.
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That's who we're catching when we do catch them coming across the border.
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the same wristbands that the man who's in charge of the border said he didn't know what they were
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No, that's exactly right, that Bill Blugian is actually down on the border who's reporting on what's happening.
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They're color-coded for how many thousands of dollars they owe the cartels.
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And yet the Secretary of Homeland Security told me under oath before the Senate Judiciary Committee
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he had no idea what they were because he simply doesn't care and neither do his political superiors.
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As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you.
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