Verdict with Ted Cruz - March 31, 2023


Trump Indictment - What It Means & What's Next


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Ted Cruz reacts to the announcement of Donald Trump's indictment by the New York City Police Department of Donald J. Trump Jr. on Friday morning, and Ben Foy joins him to discuss the implications for the President and the rule of law.

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00:00:05.520 Welcome. It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you on what we'll refer to as an emergency pod.
00:00:11.780 Senator, it's one o'clock in the morning, Central 2 Eastern a.m.
00:00:16.440 You've just landed and the world is still talking at this hour.
00:00:22.980 People are waking up around the world realizing that the United States of America
00:00:27.360 has made history by indicting Donald J. Trump.
00:00:32.600 This is, I think, a sad day, a dark day for our country.
00:00:36.040 I want to get your thoughts on this for everybody that I know is listening.
00:00:41.600 Well, Ben, I have conflicting emotions.
00:00:44.200 Part of me is angry. It is outrageous what happened earlier today.
00:00:49.100 Part of me is sad because it is tragic for the rule of law. 0.99
00:00:53.940 This indictment is utter and complete garbage. 0.98
00:00:59.800 This is not law. 0.99
00:01:01.540 This is not a prosecution based on the facts.
00:01:06.300 This is a political vendetta brought by a left-wing partisan Democrat
00:01:12.240 who was elected by George Soros, a billionaire who spent over a million dollars
00:01:17.460 to elect Alvin Bragg as district attorney.
00:01:20.440 And Bragg is motivated by one thing, and that is partisan hatred.
00:01:24.320 On the merits, this case is utterly baseless.
00:01:28.160 It is frivolous.
00:01:29.920 It is a case that will most assuredly fail in court.
00:01:35.100 But Bragg doesn't care.
00:01:38.100 The Democrats, the media partisans who are exultant right now, they don't care.
00:01:45.040 They love the fact that Donald Trump is being indicted.
00:01:50.360 Never mind the fact.
00:01:51.500 Never mind the law.
00:01:52.740 Never mind guilt or innocence.
00:01:54.480 They hate the man.
00:01:56.240 They are exultant for the political theater of the mugshot
00:02:00.580 that will happen in the coming days.
00:02:05.200 Is there any downside to Bragg doing this, Senator?
00:02:08.920 Because there have been a lot of people saying that he overstepped here, right?
00:02:12.100 That this was a complete overstep.
00:02:14.200 There were Democrats basically begging him not to do this publicly on TV,
00:02:18.780 saying he should step back from the brink.
00:02:21.080 They were saying that on CNN.
00:02:22.580 But if you look at New York, and you look at where he would run for re-election,
00:02:27.460 he's looking at becoming the governor, and that's what we've been told about him in New York,
00:02:31.960 even if he loses, even if all this is thrown out,
00:02:35.680 is it still, in his mind, a win for him because it's such a partisan attack on Donald Trump?
00:02:42.960 Well, look, I don't know the man, but everything about him says that he is a zealot,
00:02:47.820 says that he's an extreme partisan.
00:02:50.280 Listen, I'm a conservative, and I'm heartbroken today because this is such a blow to America.
00:02:57.920 It's a blow to rule of law.
00:02:59.600 Our Constitution was designed.
00:03:01.320 Listen, there are countries all over the world.
00:03:03.180 If you're in Russia, this can happen to you.
00:03:05.920 If you're in China, this can happen to you.
00:03:08.080 If you're in North Korea or Venezuela or Cuba, this is what banana republics do. 1.00
00:03:13.100 This is what dictatorships do.
00:03:14.920 If one party takes power, you better hope you're not the prior party because they're coming after you,
00:03:20.360 and they're going to lock you up, and they may put you in front of a firing squad.
00:03:23.320 I feel confident at least Alvin Bragg won't take it to that.
00:03:27.200 But America is different.
00:03:29.540 We're built on rule of law.
00:03:31.460 We're built on the law applying to everyone.
00:03:35.100 And so as a conservative, this makes me sad.
00:03:37.520 But I've got to say the irony, Ben.
00:03:38.860 If I were a liberal Democrat, I'd be horrified right now because even while this is devastating to the rule of law,
00:03:49.580 to the confidence the American people will have in our justice system,
00:03:53.580 at the same time, I think this is an enormous political gift to Donald Trump.
00:03:58.260 If I were a Democrat, I might well report Alvin Bragg to the Federal Election Commission
00:04:04.200 for making the single greatest in-kind contribution to a presidential campaign in history.
00:04:11.080 This is – there's a reason – look, Trump put out almost two weeks ago
00:04:16.680 that he was about to get arrested, and he said he was going to get arrested the next day.
00:04:21.920 And Bragg delayed and delayed and delayed.
00:04:23.820 A lot of national Democrats were freaking out and were pressuring Bragg,
00:04:26.920 don't do this, don't do this, don't do this.
00:04:28.980 This will help Trump.
00:04:30.240 And, you know, as you know, he sent the grand jury home for a period of time.
00:04:36.820 The press was reporting the grand jury had been sent home for a month.
00:04:40.100 Turns out that was false.
00:04:41.460 That was either misreporting or deliberate misinformation from Bragg.
00:04:46.300 But I think the delay – you and I speculated, we talked on the pod,
00:04:51.040 it may have been Bragg getting cold feet.
00:04:52.880 But I'll tell you, I said on the podcast that there was a very good chance Bragg was going to say, 0.96
00:04:58.340 screw it, I hate the guy, and I'm going to indict him, and all the rest of you can go jump in a lake. 0.94
00:05:03.300 And sadly, that's what he's done. 1.00
00:05:05.980 And, you know, this is not going to be the last salvo.
00:05:11.620 There's going to be more presidents indicted.
00:05:14.740 This puts America on a road that is a very, very bad road.
00:05:19.840 You know, you look back in history.
00:05:21.020 Richard Nixon, who committed multiple crimes.
00:05:24.340 As you know, I'm not a Nixon fan.
00:05:26.680 My latest book, Justice Corrupted, there's an entire chapter detailing the crimes and obstruction of justice
00:05:35.200 and abuse carried out by the Nixon White House.
00:05:40.080 But I've got to say, when Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon, it probably cost Gerald Ford his election.
00:05:46.480 It probably elected Jimmy Carter. 0.93
00:05:49.340 But Gerald Ford did it because he believed he was helping the country.
00:05:52.920 He believed that having a trial of the former president, even a president as corrupt as Nixon,
00:05:58.680 he thought would be deeply harmful for the country.
00:06:01.380 You know, my sentiments are similar to what they were when the Democrats impeached Donald Trump, not once but twice.
00:06:09.700 And that's when verdicts started.
00:06:12.020 Verdicts started, as you know, on the first night of the first impeachment trial against Trump.
00:06:16.060 And I said at the outset, they're starting a new chapter.
00:06:20.800 This will become routine.
00:06:23.360 When one party controls the House and the other party controls the White House, we will see presidents get impeached.
00:06:29.540 That's not good for America.
00:06:30.940 That's not good for the rule of law.
00:06:33.500 And this has now escalated it even further.
00:06:36.820 These are radical partisans who don't care about the rule of law.
00:06:41.580 It is war by any means necessary.
00:06:45.160 That's how Alvin Bragg and George Soros and the radical left approaches that.
00:06:50.480 And that's a really tragic day for America.
00:06:53.960 What is your hope for Republicans now?
00:06:57.740 Because there's been a lot of, as I was watching earlier tonight, just some of the reactions on TV.
00:07:03.220 They said, get ready.
00:07:03.980 Because now what's going to happen is there's going to be a tit for tat.
00:07:07.600 And you're going to see district attorneys start going after maybe Biden family members for the Biden crime family.
00:07:14.460 And what we've seen has come out with the millions of dollars coming in from the Russians and the Chinese.
00:07:19.220 This is going to turn into we open Pandora's box.
00:07:22.140 There's no way to stop this now.
00:07:24.020 It's if you're going to do it, we're going to do it.
00:07:25.960 But I worry that we go down that road and there's no way to turn off the spigot.
00:07:32.340 What is your hope and how concerned are you that maybe Republicans say, OK, well, if Bragg's going to do it, by golly, I'll make a name for myself and I'll go after Joe Biden and all of his allies.
00:07:45.180 Well, look, that is a very real worry.
00:07:49.780 Historically, the left has been more willing to do that than the right.
00:07:53.720 But but escalation is a very real possibility.
00:07:57.400 And we've talked on this podcast before.
00:07:59.380 I believe Merrick Garland, I think the Biden DOJ is going to indict Hunter Biden.
00:08:05.460 I think they plan to indict Hunter Biden.
00:08:07.160 They've leaked it to the press, which DOJ should not be leaking.
00:08:10.540 But I think they plan to indict Hunter Biden for drug charges or maybe tax charges for something that is personal and unique to him.
00:08:20.820 And I think they want the public narrative to be this is this is a poor, tortured soul with serious substance abuse problems.
00:08:28.020 And we should our hearts should should break for the trauma he has served.
00:08:33.400 They are not, I believe, going to indict Hunter Biden for anything related to corruption from his father, which is which is the relevant public matter.
00:08:43.400 It's the relevant issue of public interest is is the sitting president engaged in corrupt business dealings?
00:08:51.500 Did the sitting president, as vice president, engage in corrupt business dealings?
00:08:55.800 That is a legitimate, important concern.
00:08:58.400 Look, I'm not saying that that it is always illegitimate to indict or prosecute a former president for a president commits crimes, serious crimes.
00:09:09.320 That president should be held accountable.
00:09:12.080 But it shouldn't be ticky tack nonsense.
00:09:17.040 And this is where and look, we did a podcast last week that went into the details of it.
00:09:22.340 So I'm not going to repeat all of it.
00:09:23.560 But but let's do this briefly.
00:09:24.780 We don't know the exact grounds on which the district attorney is indicting Trump.
00:09:31.460 He has not yet released the indictment publicly.
00:09:34.080 I assume we will know in the next couple of days.
00:09:36.580 But in all likelihood, the statute that he will be basing it on is New York Penal Law 175.05.
00:09:45.560 What does that do?
00:09:46.240 It makes it a misdemeanor when an individual makes or causes a false entry in a business record or alters, erases, obliterates, deletes a true entry in a business record.
00:10:01.620 In other words, it's a bookkeeping error.
00:10:04.140 If you write something in the books of a business enemy that is false under New York law, that's a misdemeanor.
00:10:11.520 So that's the claim they're basing it on. 0.52
00:10:13.680 But it's even more ludicrous than that.
00:10:16.560 Because it's a misdemeanor under New York law, the statute of limitations is two years.
00:10:22.940 This alleged crime occurred in 2016.
00:10:26.280 The alleged crime is that, in the heat of the presidential campaign against Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump sent his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, to pay Stormy Daniels, a porn star, $130,000, to cover up that she had allegedly had an affair with Donald Trump.
00:10:45.980 I don't know if any of that's true or not, but that's the allegation.
00:10:49.820 None of that's illegal.
00:10:51.000 On the face of it, there's nothing in what I've just described that violates New York law.
00:10:56.740 So what is Alvin Bragg hanging his hat on?
00:10:58.620 He's saying, well, when the $130,000 was paid, in the accounting ledgers, Trump recorded that $130,000 as legal fees.
00:11:11.640 When it was not, in fact, legal fees, it was hush money.
00:11:14.660 It was a payoff to Stormy Daniels.
00:11:16.180 Now, as I mentioned, that's a misdemeanor under New York law, so the statute of limitations is run, which means the prosecutor can't charge him.
00:11:24.280 So how is he bringing this indictment?
00:11:26.720 Well, there's another provision of New York law, New York Penal Law 175.10, that makes it a felony if you create a false business record in the furtherance of, in order to commit another crime.
00:11:43.400 So he's trying to bootstrap another crime to transform a misdemeanor into a felony.
00:11:49.920 Now, let's pause for a second and reflect on the irony.
00:11:53.040 Alvin Bragg got elected.
00:11:54.940 George Soros spent over a million dollars to elect Alvin Bragg because he is reducing felonies.
00:12:01.400 Every day he's reducing felonies to misdemeanors.
00:12:04.640 He's releasing violent criminals from jail.
00:12:07.160 He's refusing to prosecute violent criminals.
00:12:09.680 He ran on a platform of let the criminals go.
00:12:14.240 But in this case, it's not a bank robber.
00:12:18.560 It's not a rapist.
00:12:19.400 It's not a murderer. 0.99
00:12:20.360 It's Donald Trump. 0.99
00:12:21.500 And to a leftist, Donald Trump is the worst thing on the face of the planet. 0.99
00:12:25.520 So he's got a ridiculous legal theory to elevate a misdemeanor into a felony. 0.92
00:12:29.900 And we don't know for sure what alleged crime he's trying to piggyback on because he hadn't released the indictment yet.
00:12:37.540 But in all likelihood, it is some sort of campaign finance violation for mischaracterizing the payment.
00:12:45.480 Now, that's the crime that is being used to bootstrap the misdemeanor, to get around the statute of limitations, to prosecute Trump because he hates Trump.
00:12:56.200 Number one, the Federal Election Commission declined to bring a case based on this.
00:13:01.640 They looked at it and said, we don't have a case here.
00:13:03.900 Number two, the Department of Justice declined to bring a case on this, main justice.
00:13:07.520 Number three, the Southern District of New York, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan, declined to bring a case on this, looked at it, and said, there's nothing here.
00:13:17.820 Number four, the previous district attorney in Manhattan, Cy Vance, who's a hardcore liberal, looked at the facts here and said, we can't bring a case here.
00:13:28.100 Everyone has looked at this and said, this ain't a case.
00:13:30.840 What happened?
00:13:31.400 Alvin Bragg said, who, baby? 0.94
00:13:33.020 I hate Trump.
00:13:33.920 Trump, I'm indicting me a Donald Trump, and nothing's going to stop me.
00:13:38.700 This case will get thrown out.
00:13:41.240 All right, let's walk through that.
00:13:43.520 But it's not about convicting him.
00:13:44.820 Yeah, it's not about convicting him.
00:13:46.240 I couldn't agree with you more.
00:13:48.000 Let's put people so they understand, because no one, I have seen this anywhere, Senator, and that's why I want to ask you this lastly.
00:13:54.800 No one has explained what will happen.
00:13:56.940 And by the way, CNN is reporting tonight, and they have pretty good information from liberals in New York City.
00:14:05.340 So that's why I think they're probably leading this.
00:14:07.780 They're getting great leaks.
00:14:09.260 They're saying Trump faces more than 30 counts related to business fraud.
00:14:12.440 Sources are now telling CNN he's expected to appear in court on Tuesday.
00:14:16.180 As the first former U.S. president to be criminally charged, he will be fingerprinted.
00:14:19.460 He will have a mugshot.
00:14:21.580 You just said this will be thrown out.
00:14:23.140 Now, explain the process.
00:14:25.780 Donald Trump's going to have to lawyer up.
00:14:27.760 If there's 30-plus counts here, he's going to have to defend himself.
00:14:31.020 You obviously just said it's going to be thrown out.
00:14:33.480 Walk us down this so people understand what really happens next.
00:14:38.020 Will there be a trial, for example?
00:14:41.000 Well, the first process is going to be Donald Trump being arrested,
00:14:47.500 which is what he tweeted just under two weeks ago, that he was about to be arrested.
00:14:52.000 Now, because he's the former president of the United States, because he's protected by Secret Service,
00:14:57.220 you're not going to have NYPD come kick down the door of Mar-a-Lago and drag him away in handcuffs.
00:15:03.160 The Manhattan district attorney is talking to Trump's attorney,
00:15:07.900 and they're reaching negotiated terms for him to turn himself in.
00:15:11.800 Now, he has said publicly he's going to turn himself in.
00:15:14.700 He's going to cooperate with him.
00:15:16.100 So what will happen, I don't know if it'll be Tuesday.
00:15:20.240 I don't know if those leaks are accurate.
00:15:22.400 But in the next several days, Tuesday is certainly plausible.
00:15:26.360 That's roughly the right time period.
00:15:28.180 It could be tomorrow or it could be any day in the next week,
00:15:32.720 that Trump presumably will present himself in Manhattan and will turn himself in.
00:15:38.920 When he turns himself in, he'll be booked.
00:15:42.500 I think it is certain that they will fingerprint him.
00:15:46.380 I think it is certain that they will take a mugshot.
00:15:48.680 Frankly, that's a big part of the reason Alvin Bragg wants to bring this case,
00:15:52.380 is to take the mugshot, because it's a political attack.
00:15:55.480 It's not a legal case.
00:15:56.920 It is a political attack.
00:15:58.440 And he wants the mugshot. 0.97
00:15:59.700 How many times have you seen, Ben, on Twitter, leftists engaged in fan fiction porn,
00:16:07.620 where they cut and paste Donald Trump's face onto the body of someone in an orange jumpsuit in prison?
00:16:14.780 Yeah, countless.
00:16:16.380 The mugshot, they are so excited as a political matter for that.
00:16:21.980 Now, by the way, my prediction, we'll see if this is true,
00:16:24.440 my prediction is when Donald Trump takes his mugshot, he will be in a crisp blue shirt with an impeccable white,
00:16:34.240 a crisp blue suit with an impeccable white shirt and a bright red Donald Trump tie,
00:16:40.600 and he will be smiling ear to ear.
00:16:42.580 That's my prediction.
00:16:43.360 I don't know that.
00:16:44.820 But we'll find out in a few days if that's right or not.
00:16:49.140 Then it will proceed to trial.
00:16:51.360 Now, before trial, there can be all sorts of pre-trial proceedings.
00:16:57.140 The defense can make motions.
00:16:58.880 They can make motions to suppress evidence.
00:17:01.380 There will be the disclosure of what's called Brady material,
00:17:05.660 which is the material the prosecutor has that is potentially exculpatory,
00:17:10.400 that potentially demonstrates Trump is innocent.
00:17:13.200 And so there'll be a back and forth.
00:17:16.280 You know, Trump will make bail.
00:17:18.060 I don't know what the bail will be set at, but he's going to make bail and be released after he's booked.
00:17:23.220 And then it will proceed towards a trial.
00:17:26.900 It is possible that the defense counsel will make a motion to dismiss the indictment.
00:17:33.100 And I don't know who the New York trial judge is that the case will be assigned to.
00:17:37.380 It will be a New York state trial judge.
00:17:40.280 New York trial judges tend to be quite liberal.
00:17:42.980 So it's possible you'll have a judge that will allow this to linger on for some time. 0.99
00:17:48.360 I've got to tell you, any judge worth his or her salt would throw this damn thing out, 1.00
00:17:52.220 because it's a ridiculous case. 0.98
00:17:54.340 And let me give you two data points that are important to know,
00:17:57.020 and they're data points that you're probably not going to hear on CNN.
00:18:00.800 You're not going to hear on ABC, CBS, or NBC.
00:18:03.460 Number one, a theory similar to this was tried against John Edwards.
00:18:11.740 John Edwards was the Democrat senator who ran for president, who had an affair,
00:18:17.100 who had a mistress, who paid hush money,
00:18:20.160 and he got prosecuted for mischaracterizing the hush money,
00:18:23.580 and the case blew up and it lost.
00:18:25.200 It did not succeed.
00:18:28.220 That's the most on-point precedent, is an absolute failure of a prosecution.
00:18:33.460 But number two, and this is the fact that is stunning,
00:18:36.860 which is the entire predicate of the Manhattan DA's case,
00:18:44.720 is that recording as legal fees a payment that was not, in fact, legal fees,
00:18:52.960 is a crime and a crime worthy of indictment and prosecution.
00:18:57.220 If that is true, do you know who else committed the exact same crime at the same time?
00:19:07.260 That would be none other than Hillary Rodham Clinton. 1.00
00:19:10.100 So all of this conduct occurred during the 2016 campaign,
00:19:14.160 during the general election, when it was Trump versus Clinton.
00:19:16.540 That's when Michael Cohen allegedly paid Stormy Daniels $130,000,
00:19:22.840 and they characterized it as legal fees.
00:19:25.260 At the exact same time, Hillary Clinton's campaign paid over a million dollars 0.98
00:19:31.700 to develop the Steele dossier.
00:19:34.200 You remember the infamous document that is filled with things like the pee tape,
00:19:38.780 the allegations of lurid sexual activities from Donald Trump, 0.99
00:19:43.080 that the media was so excited when it broke, it just happened to all be garbage 1.00
00:19:47.240 and made-up fiction. 0.97
00:19:50.160 The Hillary Clinton campaign commissioned the entire thing. 1.00
00:19:53.000 They paid for it.
00:19:53.760 They paid over a million dollars.
00:19:55.800 And you know what the Hillary Clinton campaign called the payments 0.62
00:19:58.500 to fabricate the Steele dossier?
00:20:01.520 Legal fees.
00:20:03.100 The exact same thing.
00:20:04.900 So the identical conduct, characterizing something as legal fees that was not legal fees,
00:20:10.680 occurred in the identical jurisdiction, Manhattan, at the exact same time, 2016.
00:20:18.320 If this is a crime, then objectively Hillary Clinton not only committed the same crime,
00:20:24.180 she committed it 10x.
00:20:26.440 Trump allegedly did it at $130,000.
00:20:29.420 Hillary Clinton did it at over a million dollars. 0.77
00:20:31.820 Now, the truth of the matter is, neither one of them is a crime.
00:20:34.400 It's a ticky-tack bookkeeping.
00:20:36.500 It would prosecute Hillary Clinton or zero because he supports Hillary Clinton.
00:20:40.360 And that's not how a prosecution should proceed.
00:20:46.120 Last question for you I want to ask, and this is, I think, a bigger just step back
00:20:52.100 and think about this from a different perspective of how much damage has been done for the future
00:21:00.880 of this country today because of this indictment, the fact that in 2023 we have lost our way
00:21:09.500 to the point where we're indicting on garbage charges, as you described it, former presidents
00:21:15.640 of the United States of America.
00:21:16.480 And is there any way to get this back in the box afterwards, or is the damage that's been
00:21:21.520 done, will it ever go away?
00:21:24.500 Look, it is very, very hard.
00:21:26.920 As you know, I've been concerned about this for a long time.
00:21:30.240 Several months ago, I wrote my latest book.
00:21:32.580 My latest book is on exactly this topic, because I saw this happening.
00:21:36.480 My latest book is called Justice Corrupted, How the Left Has Weaponized the Legal System.
00:21:42.220 And it describes how Barack Obama and Joe Biden have corrupted the Department of Justice,
00:21:48.300 have corrupted the FBI, have corrupted the IRS, have corrupted the CIA, have weaponized 0.71
00:21:54.040 the legal machinery.
00:21:55.020 It talks about Alvin Bragg.
00:21:57.020 It talks about George Soros DAs elected with millions of dollars from George Soros to undermine
00:22:03.760 the rule of law.
00:22:05.340 And listen, I did not, I wasn't happy writing the book Justice Corrupted.
00:22:10.860 I love the American justice system.
00:22:14.800 I love the rule of law.
00:22:16.020 My entire life has been devoted to the Constitution, literally since I was a teenager.
00:22:20.860 When I was 13, I was part of a group called the Constitutional Corroborators, where we memorized
00:22:26.940 the Constitution in short mnemonic form.
00:22:29.760 Yes, Ben, I was one heck of a geek.
00:22:31.880 You were a jock. 1.00
00:22:32.880 You would have kicked my ass in high school. 1.00
00:22:35.340 But that was me. 1.00
00:22:37.000 You were a pretty geeky jock, I will give you that.
00:22:39.380 That's true, that's true. 1.00
00:22:40.320 But you still would have kicked my ass in high school. 0.99
00:22:42.700 But, look, my entire life, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, it has been the pinnacle 0.99
00:22:50.360 of human liberty in the entire existence of mankind.
00:22:55.340 And I wrote Justice Corrupted because I saw these hardcore partisans, these leftists, these Marxists, willing to use the machinery of justice just as a cudgel, as a club to beat their political opponents.
00:23:14.720 And I was horrified.
00:23:15.840 Look, I'm going to encourage everyone, go on Amazon right now, buy Justice Corrupted.
00:23:20.080 If you want to know what happened here, this book details exactly what led to today's indictment.
00:23:29.140 And it, unfortunately, I think it only gets worse over the next two years under Joe Biden.
00:23:34.800 I can promise you one thing.
00:23:36.740 We're going to keep you updated on this.
00:23:38.100 I have a feeling this is going to have a lot of moving parts in the weeks and the months ahead.
00:23:43.840 It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out.
00:23:45.800 We will let you get you behind the scenes and let you understand the legal aspect of this, which I think is one part that's lacking.
00:23:52.000 And I appreciate you, Senator, explaining what is going to happen next just in the short term, because people want to know they're afraid that the president's going to be ineligible, that he can't run, that if there's a trial, he's not going to be able to run.
00:24:02.560 All that is also not true.
00:24:04.400 Even if this goes forward, he is not ineligible to run.
00:24:09.600 It is completely false.
00:24:11.280 The only way that a president can be ineligible to run is if the president is impeached, which takes a majority of the House, and convicted, which takes two-thirds of the Senate, and the Senate imposes the penalty of making him ineligible to run for office.
00:24:30.280 That is not going to happen.
00:24:32.160 That has not happened.
00:24:33.560 And so the fact of an indictment has zero effect on Trump's being able to run.
00:24:39.540 It has zero effect on his being able to win the primary.
00:24:42.080 It has zero effect on his being able to win the general.
00:24:45.040 It has zero effect on his being able to serve as president.
00:24:48.120 This is an effort by Alvin Bragg and radical Democrats to steal the election.
00:24:54.020 The irony is all of these Democrats who have clutched their pearls and said, defend democracy, defend democracy.
00:25:01.400 Well, you know what? 1.00
00:25:02.340 They're all full of crap. 1.00
00:25:03.560 Because they don't believe in democracy. 1.00
00:25:05.720 Look, if you don't like Donald Trump, vote against him.
00:25:08.360 But don't abuse the justice system by trying to bring bogus charges because you're afraid that the voters might actually vote for the guy.
00:25:18.540 That's not democracy.
00:25:19.960 It's the opposite of democracy.
00:25:21.980 And these Marxists don't care.
00:25:24.440 They are tearing down American democracy. 0.62
00:25:28.060 And it's why, as I sit here at 1.16 in the morning, I'm pissed as hell.
00:25:32.420 Yeah.
00:25:33.860 Senator, thank you.
00:25:35.240 I think this is one of the most important podcasts that we have done.
00:25:40.140 And people want to know what's happening.
00:25:42.080 And I think this will help distinguish the BS and the spin from the reality of this situation.
00:25:47.540 We will be back with you whenever big, big news like this breaks, even if it's at 1.20 in the morning.
00:25:53.040 And we'll be back with you, obviously, in a couple days as well.
00:25:57.320 We'll see you then, everybody.
00:25:59.240 Pray for our country.
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