Verdict with Ted Cruz - December 05, 2022


TWITTER-PALOOZA： A Deep Dive Into Elon's Bombshell Release


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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:04.420 There was a big story that broke this week,
00:00:06.800 and it dealt with an important issue.
00:00:09.260 Actual silencing and censoring of conservative voices
00:00:12.400 on Twitter right before major elections.
00:00:15.180 We're gonna do a deep dive on it.
00:00:16.820 I'm Ben Ferguson, and this is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:20.220 Senator, the internet got broken the other night
00:00:22.620 because of Elon Musk and all that he exposed,
00:00:26.000 and it was a big story, obviously.
00:00:27.660 But before we get to that,
00:00:28.740 there's a guy in Washington, D.C. that looks like you,
00:00:32.380 and it's freaking me out.
00:00:33.940 I think it's freaking a lot of people out,
00:00:36.360 and it's someone you would never expect
00:00:38.740 to be wanting to look like you.
00:00:40.840 His name is Mitt Romney,
00:00:42.520 who has grown a beard for people watching.
00:00:46.180 There it is.
00:00:47.120 I don't know if he lost his razor.
00:00:49.240 I don't know if he's trying to resurrect his career
00:00:51.320 to make people like him,
00:00:52.360 and he saw how much people loved your beard.
00:00:55.440 You got any advice on this one?
00:00:57.040 Well, listen, I think Mitt's beard looks great.
00:01:00.020 He came back from Thanksgiving,
00:01:01.580 and he had white stubble covering his face.
00:01:04.700 It's interesting that his beard is all white.
00:01:07.880 His hair is not all white, but the beard is.
00:01:11.060 And I thought it looked good.
00:01:12.900 And so Mitt and I were laughing on the Senate floor.
00:01:16.700 I welcomed him to the bearded club
00:01:19.880 and said, was glad to have him.
00:01:22.180 I asked him, what's the deal?
00:01:23.660 What's going on?
00:01:24.320 And he said, oh, he just, you know,
00:01:26.600 didn't shave over Thanksgiving
00:01:27.800 and said he was, you know,
00:01:29.020 figured what the heck, keep it.
00:01:31.040 He said Ann thought it looked kind of cute.
00:01:33.380 He liked that.
00:01:34.020 That made him happy.
00:01:34.900 Yeah.
00:01:35.640 He said he's never grown a beard in his life.
00:01:37.800 In his entire life.
00:01:38.740 Like college, grad school,
00:01:41.180 never in his life had a beard.
00:01:43.300 And I did share with him a story.
00:01:46.540 I said, well, you're going to find
00:01:47.880 they're different views depending on the generation.
00:01:50.940 And in particular, young people,
00:01:53.580 20-something, 30-something will love the beard.
00:01:56.780 But there's another generation,
00:01:58.420 which is typically women in their 70s and 80s
00:02:01.240 who can't stand it.
00:02:03.220 My grandmother said she didn't like my dad.
00:02:06.540 When my mom and they were dating,
00:02:07.700 she said, I don't like his mustache.
00:02:09.800 He was a police officer.
00:02:11.100 He's hiding something.
00:02:12.240 That's literally what she wasn't joking.
00:02:13.900 She goes, I don't like him.
00:02:14.940 I don't trust him.
00:02:15.640 So my father had a beard in the 70s
00:02:17.600 and he shaved it because a woman at church
00:02:20.780 said she didn't trust men with beards,
00:02:23.500 that they were dishonest.
00:02:24.940 And look, I think that really comes out
00:02:26.380 of the 60s and 70s and the hippies.
00:02:28.120 And there's a generation where they see someone bearded
00:02:30.380 and they think you're a hippie.
00:02:33.440 And a story I told Mitt, I said, look,
00:02:36.000 I was standing actually right where Mitt
00:02:38.120 and I were standing,
00:02:38.880 which is down at the well of the Senate.
00:02:40.840 And I was talking with Mitch McConnell
00:02:43.100 and Dianne Feinstein came up
00:02:45.980 and Dianne looked at Mitch and said,
00:02:48.560 Mitch, when are we going to get Ted
00:02:52.360 to shave that hideous thing on his face?
00:02:56.180 And I turned to her, I said,
00:02:57.680 Dianne, next thing you know,
00:02:59.980 I'm growing a ponytail,
00:03:01.220 I'm getting Birkenstocks
00:03:02.380 and I'm coming after your base.
00:03:04.360 What'd she say?
00:03:06.040 Mitch McConnell cracked up laughing
00:03:08.360 and Dianne looked at me
00:03:10.720 completely confused and befuddled.
00:03:13.540 It just, she did not understand
00:03:15.860 what I was saying.
00:03:16.540 So I told Mitt that
00:03:17.520 and apparently that might've scared him too
00:03:21.040 because the next day he shaved it.
00:03:23.840 The very next day he shaved it.
00:03:26.400 Well, he didn't want to take that kind of heat
00:03:27.980 from Democrats, let's be honest.
00:03:29.420 He wants to be friends with him.
00:03:31.140 He loves the Democratic base.
00:03:32.860 He loves the liberals liking him.
00:03:34.400 Of course he's going to shave the thing.
00:03:35.520 Well, and he said to me, he said,
00:03:36.520 this thing itches, does it really itch?
00:03:38.780 I said, yeah, for a day or two
00:03:40.020 and then it passes.
00:03:41.560 And so I actually went to Mitt that next day
00:03:44.120 and said, Mitt,
00:03:45.500 I want to officially lodge a protest
00:03:48.880 on behalf of all of your grandchildren.
00:03:52.420 Grow it back.
00:03:53.160 That you're denying them
00:03:55.160 a Santa Claus beard right before Christmas.
00:03:58.560 And I think it's wrong.
00:03:59.520 The grandkids are dismayed.
00:04:01.460 I got to ask, your two daughters,
00:04:02.940 when my dad apparently shaved his mustache
00:04:05.980 the only time,
00:04:07.080 we apparently freaked out and cried.
00:04:08.700 I don't remember when we were little kids.
00:04:09.920 Did your daughters like the beard instantly
00:04:11.940 or did they say no, dad?
00:04:13.400 Yeah, my girls are actually not crazy about the beard.
00:04:16.200 Even now?
00:04:16.800 Even now.
00:04:18.140 I've had it now a couple of years.
00:04:19.600 I like it,
00:04:20.480 but my girls could do without.
00:04:23.320 Well, if you get confused with Mitt Romney,
00:04:26.380 it's really going to screw with people.
00:04:27.820 He shaved it now,
00:04:28.660 so I think you're safe.
00:04:29.540 You're not going to have to worry
00:04:30.200 about people walking up and going,
00:04:31.180 hey, Cinder, can I get a picture with Mitt?
00:04:33.140 Can I get a picture with you from Utah?
00:04:34.640 I don't think that's going to happen now.
00:04:36.520 It's fair to say Mitt's base and my base are different.
00:04:39.400 Are very different.
00:04:40.360 Yes, very different.
00:04:41.700 I want to get into this serious topic, obviously,
00:04:44.120 and we're going to do a deep dive.
00:04:45.620 So everybody today,
00:04:47.900 make sure you hit that share button.
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00:04:56.580 because we're doing an entire show dedicated to what just came out
00:05:01.200 of how much government,
00:05:03.200 and there's two parts of the story.
00:05:04.700 There's government influence in the private sector,
00:05:07.840 and there's a private sector also silencing people
00:05:11.580 that they're told to silence by government officials.
00:05:14.660 And I think it's shocking to see how much collusion there was.
00:05:18.300 And Democrats love the word collusion.
00:05:20.260 They've been obsessed with that word for a long time.
00:05:22.860 You want to talk about real collusion?
00:05:24.240 Elon Musk is showing us there was real direct collusion
00:05:27.420 between the Democratic Party
00:05:29.180 and big tech silencing conservatives.
00:05:32.940 You look at this story,
00:05:34.360 and this is going to be multiple parts they're now saying.
00:05:36.800 So they released some of this information,
00:05:39.040 and I want your overall reaction to it,
00:05:41.540 just how dirty it was behind the scenes at Twitter,
00:05:44.820 to make sure people that were having an influence
00:05:47.020 were silenced with big stories.
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00:06:50.300 Now, Senator, let's get to this.
00:06:52.620 It is shocking what we saw.
00:06:55.020 Your overall reaction
00:06:56.560 as all this information was coming out.
00:06:58.700 Well, it's stunning,
00:06:59.940 and a lot more is coming.
00:07:01.140 So you and I are sitting here
00:07:02.360 at a Sunday afternoon.
00:07:04.260 The first tranche of emails and tweets has come out.
00:07:09.320 Elon Musk has promised a second tranche
00:07:11.680 coming out later today.
00:07:12.740 So we will see what the second tranche holds.
00:07:15.660 But the first one is stunning,
00:07:17.760 and it's a whole Twitter thread.
00:07:20.000 I'd encourage people to read the entire thing,
00:07:22.200 but what we're going to do on this pod
00:07:23.480 is we're going to go through
00:07:24.540 the highlights of what's most important.
00:07:26.800 So let's start.
00:07:27.760 Let's start with the first one.
00:07:29.840 And this one,
00:07:30.960 this is actually, I think, the eighth tweet,
00:07:32.840 but it goes right to the heart of it.
00:07:35.120 And it is an internal email
00:07:37.240 within Twitter
00:07:38.920 that reads,
00:07:40.040 more to review from the Biden team, colon.
00:07:43.340 And there are a series of five links
00:07:45.120 to different tweets other people have said.
00:07:47.200 And then it says,
00:07:48.160 thanks all.
00:07:48.880 And the response,
00:07:50.360 two words,
00:07:51.540 handle these.
00:07:52.620 And to be clear,
00:07:53.440 this was basically,
00:07:54.280 they went through Twitter
00:07:55.360 the day before
00:07:56.460 or in the last couple of days.
00:07:57.720 They said,
00:07:58.080 hey, these are the tweets
00:07:58.980 that are most damning to us,
00:08:00.500 the Democratic Party.
00:08:01.740 We send them to Twitter,
00:08:03.480 and we want you to get rid of all these,
00:08:06.120 silence all these people,
00:08:07.240 shut all these people down.
00:08:08.380 And it was just direct links to tweets.
00:08:10.720 And then it said,
00:08:11.440 handled.
00:08:11.860 There was no pushback.
00:08:13.360 There was no questioning.
00:08:14.740 There was no,
00:08:15.220 we'll take a review.
00:08:16.460 It was,
00:08:17.320 how high you want us to jump at Twitter,
00:08:19.100 we'll take care of your problems.
00:08:20.500 Yeah,
00:08:20.640 this is Twitter acting as an arm
00:08:22.740 for the Biden campaign.
00:08:24.480 Acting as,
00:08:25.640 look,
00:08:26.100 that's almost how you task an employee.
00:08:28.380 Hey,
00:08:28.940 here are five more to take care of.
00:08:30.520 Handle these.
00:08:31.160 Done.
00:08:31.720 Just,
00:08:32.520 that's who we work for.
00:08:33.880 We're carrying it out.
00:08:35.820 And it goes worse.
00:08:37.640 Let's look at the next one.
00:08:39.420 Okay,
00:08:39.700 so this is Elon Musk
00:08:40.920 kind of commenting,
00:08:42.020 giving a meta comment
00:08:43.280 on the entire thread.
00:08:45.160 And he points out,
00:08:46.080 he says,
00:08:46.900 Twitter acting by itself
00:08:48.940 to suppress free speech
00:08:50.260 is not a First Amendment violation,
00:08:53.560 but acting under orders
00:08:54.900 from the government
00:08:55.620 to suppress free speech
00:08:57.220 with no judicial review
00:08:58.620 is.
00:08:59.600 Now,
00:08:59.800 let me explain something
00:09:00.700 that's important.
00:09:02.060 Why is Twitter acting on its own
00:09:03.780 not a violation
00:09:04.420 of the First Amendment?
00:09:05.580 The reason is
00:09:06.340 the First Amendment
00:09:07.020 only applies to government.
00:09:08.380 Actually,
00:09:08.880 as it was written,
00:09:09.780 it only applied
00:09:10.400 to the federal government.
00:09:11.440 The First Amendment
00:09:11.860 begins with,
00:09:12.900 Congress shall make no law.
00:09:14.260 It applied to Congress.
00:09:15.640 Yep.
00:09:15.740 Now,
00:09:16.040 since then,
00:09:16.740 the courts have expanded
00:09:17.740 the First Amendment
00:09:18.500 so it applies
00:09:19.240 to the entirety
00:09:20.240 of the federal government.
00:09:21.140 It applies to state governments.
00:09:22.360 It applies to local governments.
00:09:24.300 But,
00:09:24.860 a private company,
00:09:26.260 Twitter or anybody else,
00:09:28.120 implementing some policy,
00:09:29.640 the First Amendment
00:09:30.280 doesn't govern it.
00:09:31.800 But,
00:09:32.500 as Elon points out,
00:09:33.800 there's a major exception
00:09:35.040 to that,
00:09:36.300 which is,
00:09:37.300 if a private company
00:09:38.700 acts at the behest
00:09:40.000 of the government,
00:09:41.060 if it is censoring
00:09:42.700 because the government
00:09:44.280 is turning it
00:09:47.180 into an instrumentality
00:09:48.900 of censorship,
00:09:50.460 then the First Amendment
00:09:51.360 does apply.
00:09:52.180 And what these tweets show
00:09:53.460 is that's what was happening.
00:09:55.900 And I gotta say,
00:09:56.640 this podcast,
00:09:58.200 we have been explaining
00:09:59.600 this theory
00:10:00.380 of First Amendment liability
00:10:01.700 for three years now.
00:10:03.500 Yeah.
00:10:04.140 We got into it
00:10:05.760 on a deep dive
00:10:07.320 when the emails
00:10:09.100 became public
00:10:09.960 between Dr. Fauci
00:10:11.140 and Mark Zuckerberg
00:10:12.160 at Facebook.
00:10:13.100 And I explained
00:10:14.040 on the Verdict podcast
00:10:15.440 how those emails
00:10:17.400 make Facebook,
00:10:19.360 and their similar communications
00:10:20.360 with Twitter,
00:10:21.640 face very real liability
00:10:23.500 because they're not
00:10:25.120 just acting
00:10:25.820 as private
00:10:26.800 corporate actors,
00:10:28.660 they're acting
00:10:29.420 as an instrumentality
00:10:31.020 of the government.
00:10:31.720 An agent,
00:10:32.380 basically,
00:10:32.880 of the government.
00:10:33.820 If you are one
00:10:34.840 of these individuals,
00:10:35.540 and we've seen a lot
00:10:36.180 of this come out,
00:10:36.660 and I want to do
00:10:37.060 a deep dive into this,
00:10:39.000 is there legal recourse now
00:10:40.840 for the people
00:10:41.760 that clearly were put
00:10:42.840 on these lists?
00:10:43.560 And there's a lot
00:10:44.320 of conservatives
00:10:44.980 that are now
00:10:45.600 on this list
00:10:46.180 that we know of.
00:10:47.860 There's obviously
00:10:48.560 going to be more
00:10:49.160 that we're going to find out
00:10:49.940 about.
00:10:50.060 Where their tweets
00:10:51.200 were silenced,
00:10:52.020 their accounts
00:10:52.460 were silenced,
00:10:53.100 and even shut down.
00:10:54.640 If you are one
00:10:55.760 of those individuals,
00:10:56.960 is there a real chance
00:10:58.600 that you could actually sue
00:11:00.140 because of this
00:11:01.260 and possibly win?
00:11:03.000 Absolutely, yes.
00:11:04.060 Let's go to the next tweet
00:11:05.140 because it actually
00:11:05.960 goes directly
00:11:06.600 to the question
00:11:07.140 you just asked.
00:11:08.920 So,
00:11:09.820 celebrities
00:11:11.080 and unknowns alike
00:11:12.780 could be removed
00:11:14.520 or reviewed
00:11:15.240 at the behest
00:11:15.900 of a political party.
00:11:17.820 And if you go
00:11:18.920 to the attachment here,
00:11:21.000 I grabbed the first one
00:11:22.820 under SI,
00:11:23.520 defer to safety
00:11:24.120 on the high profile,
00:11:24.980 second one.
00:11:26.180 So,
00:11:26.600 the first one,
00:11:27.420 someone who I don't think
00:11:29.020 is well known,
00:11:30.240 but apparently
00:11:30.680 that poor fellow
00:11:31.800 tweeted something
00:11:32.560 that Biden and the DNC
00:11:34.220 didn't like
00:11:34.820 and Twitter promptly
00:11:35.640 squashed him.
00:11:37.060 The second one there
00:11:38.220 is a tweet
00:11:40.380 from James Wood,
00:11:41.280 the actor.
00:11:42.400 And so,
00:11:43.920 the tweet says,
00:11:45.000 or the email says,
00:11:45.980 an additional report
00:11:47.160 from the DNC,
00:11:48.120 and they forward
00:11:48.920 a tweet
00:11:49.900 James Woods sent
00:11:50.940 and Twitter responded
00:11:52.420 by immediately
00:11:53.260 banning James Woods.
00:11:54.940 And he has said,
00:11:55.840 I am going to sue on this.
00:11:57.240 I'm not backing down.
00:11:59.020 Does he have grounds?
00:12:00.000 Because we hear a lot of people
00:12:00.800 say a lot of times
00:12:01.420 they're going to sue.
00:12:02.860 These emails
00:12:03.880 give him what he actually
00:12:05.720 needs for a case
00:12:07.040 is what I've been told
00:12:08.300 from several others
00:12:09.060 who said,
00:12:09.400 hey,
00:12:09.600 this is bad news
00:12:10.680 for the DNC
00:12:11.500 and it's bad news
00:12:13.280 for Twitter in general
00:12:15.260 going backwards.
00:12:16.180 Twitter will get sued.
00:12:17.200 Biden will get sued.
00:12:18.340 The DNC will get sued.
00:12:20.180 James Woods has said
00:12:21.280 on Fox
00:12:21.920 that his career
00:12:22.960 was destroyed
00:12:24.700 by what the DNC
00:12:26.080 was doing.
00:12:26.700 That Twitter acting
00:12:27.780 to ban him
00:12:29.520 ended up hurting
00:12:30.460 his acting career.
00:12:31.460 And so,
00:12:31.740 one of the things
00:12:32.220 you have to prove
00:12:33.120 in a defamation suit
00:12:35.060 is you have to prove
00:12:35.900 damages.
00:12:36.740 Right.
00:12:38.260 I think there's
00:12:39.120 a very real chance
00:12:40.040 someone like James Woods
00:12:41.440 will be able to.
00:12:42.140 All right,
00:12:42.280 let's go to the next tweet.
00:12:43.540 So,
00:12:44.520 this is shifting
00:12:45.200 into Hunter Biden.
00:12:46.640 So,
00:12:47.020 the Hunter Biden
00:12:47.560 laptop story
00:12:48.400 comes out.
00:12:49.240 It's October
00:12:49.880 of 2020.
00:12:51.360 It's right before
00:12:51.920 the election.
00:12:52.600 The New York Post
00:12:53.420 publishes it.
00:12:54.900 And then,
00:12:56.020 this is reading
00:12:56.720 from this tweet,
00:12:57.620 Twitter took
00:12:58.100 extraordinary steps
00:12:59.260 to suppress the story,
00:13:00.700 the Hunter Biden
00:13:01.180 laptop story.
00:13:02.600 Removing links
00:13:03.440 and posting warnings
00:13:05.580 that it may be
00:13:07.300 unsafe.
00:13:09.180 Reading this story
00:13:10.240 may be unsafe.
00:13:11.140 They even blocked
00:13:13.040 its transmission
00:13:14.040 via direct message.
00:13:17.260 A tool
00:13:18.420 hitherto reserved
00:13:19.940 for extreme cases,
00:13:22.360 e.g.
00:13:22.860 child pornography.
00:13:24.160 So,
00:13:24.620 they decided
00:13:25.420 we're going to use
00:13:25.980 every tool we can
00:13:27.060 to nuke
00:13:28.360 the Hunter Biden
00:13:29.560 laptop story.
00:13:30.440 In essence,
00:13:31.140 taking the Hunter Biden
00:13:33.420 story
00:13:33.860 and making sure
00:13:35.320 that you couldn't
00:13:35.860 share it
00:13:36.320 as if it was
00:13:37.280 child pornography.
00:13:38.020 They used the same
00:13:39.160 exact technology
00:13:41.520 and importance
00:13:43.420 within Twitter
00:13:44.420 to say,
00:13:45.260 this story
00:13:46.380 is so damning
00:13:47.360 to Joe Biden,
00:13:48.560 to the Democratic Party,
00:13:50.380 to this presidential election,
00:13:52.360 and obviously Twitter
00:13:53.580 was acting as an agent
00:13:54.520 of the Democratic
00:13:55.040 National Committee
00:13:55.680 and the Joe Biden campaign,
00:13:57.400 that we will treat it
00:13:58.700 like it is
00:13:59.620 child pornography
00:14:00.280 to make sure
00:14:00.820 this story
00:14:01.400 can never get out
00:14:02.400 to the masses.
00:14:03.300 What I think is funny
00:14:04.200 is the use of the word
00:14:05.300 unsafe.
00:14:05.980 Because,
00:14:06.460 you know,
00:14:06.620 you think of unsafe,
00:14:07.760 like reading this
00:14:08.740 may damage you.
00:14:10.200 You know,
00:14:10.540 you think in the
00:14:11.660 online world
00:14:13.120 this has a virus in it.
00:14:14.420 Like there's something
00:14:15.080 unsafe about this.
00:14:16.320 Website's unsafe.
00:14:17.160 You don't want to go there.
00:14:18.760 No, no.
00:14:19.100 What they meant
00:14:19.680 about unsafe
00:14:20.520 is it's not safe
00:14:22.060 for the political fortunes
00:14:23.260 of Joe Biden
00:14:23.820 and the Democrats.
00:14:24.500 That if you read
00:14:25.140 this article,
00:14:26.360 it's going to hurt
00:14:27.260 the candidate we support.
00:14:28.880 All right,
00:14:29.020 let's go to the next one.
00:14:30.280 So how far did they go?
00:14:32.420 White House spokeswoman
00:14:33.440 Kayleigh McEnany
00:14:34.280 was locked out
00:14:35.800 of her account
00:14:36.660 for tweeting
00:14:38.240 about the story,
00:14:39.920 prompting a furious letter
00:14:41.380 from Trump campaign
00:14:42.540 staffer Mike Hahn
00:14:43.840 who seethed,
00:14:45.280 quote,
00:14:46.360 at least pretend
00:14:47.940 to care
00:14:48.520 for the next 20 days.
00:14:50.540 The next 20 days
00:14:51.280 was until the election.
00:14:52.860 And if you look
00:14:53.680 at this email
00:14:54.780 that the campaign
00:14:56.540 staffer sent to Twitter,
00:14:57.800 Kayleigh McEnany
00:14:58.360 has been knocked
00:14:58.960 out of her account
00:14:59.600 for simply talking
00:15:00.640 about the New York Post story.
00:15:02.920 All she did
00:15:03.620 is cite the story
00:15:04.540 and firsthand reporting
00:15:05.720 that has been reported
00:15:06.460 by other outlets.
00:15:07.980 When the story came out,
00:15:08.980 Joe Biden didn't say
00:15:09.880 this is not my son's laptop.
00:15:11.220 Joe Biden didn't say
00:15:11.960 this is false.
00:15:12.720 He didn't say
00:15:13.140 it was fraudulent.
00:15:13.840 He just said,
00:15:14.280 oh, crap,
00:15:14.660 this is bad.
00:15:15.780 Please, no one read it
00:15:16.960 because I don't like
00:15:17.560 the outcome.
00:15:18.140 It makes me look really bad.
00:15:20.000 The email continues.
00:15:21.300 I need an answer immediately
00:15:22.460 on when,
00:15:23.260 how she will be unlocked.
00:15:25.020 I also don't appreciate
00:15:26.300 how nobody on this team
00:15:27.480 called me regarding the news
00:15:29.060 that you'll be censoring
00:15:30.820 news articles.
00:15:31.780 Like I said,
00:15:32.920 at least to pretend
00:15:34.600 to care
00:15:35.480 for the next 20 days.
00:15:37.620 Look,
00:15:38.800 this is the White House
00:15:40.240 press secretary
00:15:41.360 that Twitter bans
00:15:44.680 less than three weeks
00:15:46.400 before a presidential election.
00:15:48.480 Why?
00:15:50.160 Because Joe Biden
00:15:51.460 and the Democrats
00:15:52.220 wanted this story suppressed
00:15:54.880 and the arrogance
00:15:56.280 of we will silence anyone.
00:15:58.680 So now,
00:15:59.920 according to Big Tech,
00:16:01.980 the White House press secretary
00:16:03.740 cannot talk about articles
00:16:05.680 in major newspapers.
00:16:07.500 The New York Post
00:16:08.320 has the fourth largest circulation
00:16:09.760 of any newspaper
00:16:10.880 in the country
00:16:11.580 that,
00:16:12.460 as we now know,
00:16:13.220 are true and accurate
00:16:14.360 news stories
00:16:15.140 but are politically damaging
00:16:17.160 to the side
00:16:18.420 Twitter wants to prevail.
00:16:19.400 If you're Kayleigh McEnany
00:16:21.120 and you see now
00:16:22.900 what was happening
00:16:23.520 behind the scenes,
00:16:25.120 what are her options legally?
00:16:26.840 Can she do anything
00:16:28.040 because she was at the White House?
00:16:29.480 Because that's what I think
00:16:30.440 many Democrats are betting on as well.
00:16:32.540 This was the fog of war.
00:16:34.080 That's what they kept
00:16:34.600 going back to, right?
00:16:35.500 We didn't,
00:16:35.940 we were so concerned
00:16:36.980 about Russian disinformation.
00:16:38.680 That's our get out of jail
00:16:39.880 free card.
00:16:40.860 And we were just trying
00:16:42.480 to protect the integrity
00:16:43.540 of an election.
00:16:44.540 They're going to go back to that.
00:16:45.880 That's their game plan here.
00:16:47.620 And Ben,
00:16:48.040 it's why what Elon Musk
00:16:49.420 is doing is so important
00:16:50.640 because they could maintain
00:16:52.580 that a couple of days ago.
00:16:53.680 They could say,
00:16:54.300 oh, it was fog of war.
00:16:54.980 We were doing it
00:16:55.520 because we thought
00:16:55.940 it might be hacked.
00:16:56.680 We were doing it.
00:16:57.880 What Elon is doing
00:16:59.080 is releasing the goods.
00:17:00.240 And so let's get through
00:17:00.920 a few more of these
00:17:01.720 because it will show
00:17:02.860 that the lefty Twitter defense
00:17:05.880 is just complete BS.
00:17:07.420 So let's get to the next one.
00:17:09.780 You can see the confusion
00:17:11.020 in the following lengthy exchange
00:17:13.260 which ends up
00:17:15.140 including Gaddy
00:17:16.600 and former trust
00:17:18.080 and safety chief
00:17:19.100 Yoel Roth.
00:17:20.840 Com's official
00:17:21.640 Trenton Kennedy writes,
00:17:23.300 quote,
00:17:23.980 I'm struggling to understand
00:17:25.460 the policy basis
00:17:26.560 for marking this as unsafe.
00:17:28.200 And let's read the exchange
00:17:29.880 in close.
00:17:31.520 So this is October 14th, 2020.
00:17:34.400 So just a couple of weeks
00:17:35.180 before the election.
00:17:36.800 New York Post
00:17:37.700 Hunter Biden laptop article,
00:17:39.640 privileged and confidential.
00:17:41.380 Uh-oh,
00:17:41.700 I don't want to get sued.
00:17:42.600 Let me,
00:17:43.040 you put privilege
00:17:43.960 and confidential on something
00:17:45.160 when you're afraid
00:17:45.720 of getting sued.
00:17:46.620 Really?
00:17:46.900 And you're saying
00:17:47.600 this email
00:17:48.380 will really hurt us
00:17:49.980 and cause us to lose
00:17:50.880 if we get sued.
00:17:52.380 Our teams continue
00:17:53.660 to investigate
00:17:54.380 the origins
00:17:55.080 of the material
00:17:55.880 included in the reporting.
00:17:57.660 Trenton Kennedy
00:17:58.360 is the comms official.
00:18:00.340 I'm struggling
00:18:01.020 to understand
00:18:02.020 the policy basis
00:18:03.280 for marking this
00:18:04.180 as unsafe.
00:18:05.120 No kidding.
00:18:05.820 And I think
00:18:07.640 the best
00:18:08.380 explainability argument,
00:18:10.360 okay,
00:18:10.600 we've got to figure out
00:18:11.200 a way to explain it.
00:18:12.280 We banned it
00:18:13.080 because it hurts Biden.
00:18:14.080 That's not a good answer.
00:18:15.100 So I think
00:18:16.080 the best explainability argument
00:18:17.700 for this externally.
00:18:20.020 Not internally,
00:18:21.120 externally.
00:18:21.840 Internally,
00:18:22.280 we know exactly
00:18:22.980 what we're doing.
00:18:23.460 But externally,
00:18:24.060 we've got to figure out
00:18:24.740 something to say.
00:18:25.920 Would be that
00:18:26.820 we're waiting
00:18:27.480 to understand
00:18:28.700 if this story
00:18:30.360 is the result
00:18:30.980 of hacked materials.
00:18:31.880 we'll face
00:18:33.300 hard questions
00:18:34.160 if we don't have
00:18:35.000 some kind
00:18:35.800 of solid reasoning
00:18:37.460 for marking
00:18:38.740 the link unsafe.
00:18:40.860 And Katie Roseborough
00:18:42.160 comes and says,
00:18:43.780 will we mark
00:18:44.460 similar stories
00:18:45.260 as unsafe?
00:18:45.960 And she points out
00:18:46.920 that the Senate
00:18:48.740 Homeland Security
00:18:49.560 Committee
00:18:50.100 was investigating
00:18:51.180 the hard drive
00:18:51.800 in the laptop.
00:18:53.320 No answer to that.
00:18:54.400 Let's go to the next one.
00:18:56.040 By this point,
00:18:57.600 everyone knew
00:18:58.640 this was EFT.
00:18:59.880 Yeah.
00:19:00.300 And they didn't
00:19:01.160 abbreviate EFT.
00:19:02.680 Said one
00:19:03.480 former employee.
00:19:06.000 But the response
00:19:06.960 was essentially
00:19:07.920 to err on the side
00:19:09.600 of continuing to err.
00:19:12.060 Now, let's look
00:19:12.720 at the exchange
00:19:13.680 back and forth.
00:19:14.640 And to be clear,
00:19:15.040 this means
00:19:15.400 let's just run out
00:19:16.240 the clock.
00:19:16.940 Close to election day.
00:19:18.580 If we can just
00:19:19.960 run out the clock here
00:19:21.480 until the election,
00:19:23.640 by default,
00:19:24.580 if we win,
00:19:25.080 we're good.
00:19:25.660 We succeeded
00:19:26.460 in our goal,
00:19:27.500 which was to make sure
00:19:28.540 that Joe Biden
00:19:29.160 won the election
00:19:29.840 and Donald Trump
00:19:30.760 lost the election
00:19:31.620 and other Republicans
00:19:32.920 lose in the process
00:19:33.860 that are down ticket.
00:19:35.100 We just got to be smart
00:19:37.100 for 20 days,
00:19:38.560 19 days,
00:19:39.480 18 days.
00:19:40.240 We're on a countdown clock,
00:19:41.360 guys.
00:19:41.620 We can pull this off
00:19:42.580 for our team.
00:19:43.480 That's exactly right.
00:19:44.900 And they know
00:19:46.260 what they're doing
00:19:47.400 is political.
00:19:48.360 It's utterly transparent.
00:19:50.120 Look,
00:19:50.360 they're going back and forth.
00:19:51.280 Yoel Roth,
00:19:52.020 who was one of the senior
00:19:52.780 officials at Twitter,
00:19:54.360 the policy basis
00:19:56.000 is hacked materials.
00:19:57.460 Though,
00:19:58.780 as discussed,
00:20:00.160 this is an emerging
00:20:01.320 situation where the facts
00:20:02.700 remain unclear.
00:20:03.680 In other words,
00:20:04.440 we don't know
00:20:05.000 that this is hacked.
00:20:05.980 We're just making this up.
00:20:07.440 By the way,
00:20:07.740 it wasn't.
00:20:08.720 But they didn't know
00:20:10.160 it was.
00:20:10.580 Now,
00:20:10.760 here's the most
00:20:12.460 revealing sentence
00:20:13.560 of all of this.
00:20:15.860 Given the severe,
00:20:17.900 severe as in all caps,
00:20:19.700 risks here
00:20:20.560 and lessons
00:20:22.460 of 2016,
00:20:24.240 we're erring
00:20:26.420 on the side
00:20:27.240 of including
00:20:27.820 a warning
00:20:28.440 and preventing
00:20:30.460 this content
00:20:31.640 from being amplified.
00:20:33.660 Now,
00:20:34.180 what were the lessons
00:20:35.180 of 2016?
00:20:36.520 I'm trying to remember
00:20:37.560 and go back to 2016.
00:20:39.640 Well,
00:20:40.220 there was this guy
00:20:40.900 named Donald J. Trump
00:20:41.940 who won.
00:20:42.840 Yeah.
00:20:43.600 And the severe risks here
00:20:45.580 is Donald Trump
00:20:46.620 winning again.
00:20:47.440 Holy crap.
00:20:48.280 If people read
00:20:49.400 what Hunter Biden
00:20:50.240 and Joe Biden
00:20:50.900 were doing,
00:20:51.480 if they read
00:20:52.200 the corruption,
00:20:53.520 they're not going
00:20:54.120 to vote for that guy,
00:20:55.300 which means
00:20:55.940 the guy we hate
00:20:56.980 will get reelected.
00:20:59.280 They're admitting
00:21:00.120 here's what's the risk.
00:21:01.420 The risk is Trump wins.
00:21:03.840 So we're going to...
00:21:04.360 Not a story.
00:21:05.140 Nothing connected
00:21:05.920 to Hillary Clinton
00:21:06.500 back in the day.
00:21:07.340 They're literally saying
00:21:08.420 the risk is
00:21:09.260 Donald Trump wins
00:21:10.220 another four-year term.
00:21:12.200 That's exactly right.
00:21:13.360 All right,
00:21:13.520 let's go to the next tweet.
00:21:15.300 All right.
00:21:16.260 So the former
00:21:17.180 vice president
00:21:18.320 of global communications,
00:21:20.060 a guy named
00:21:20.280 Brandon Borman,
00:21:21.300 asks,
00:21:22.200 can we truthfully claim
00:21:24.600 that this is part
00:21:26.320 of the policy?
00:21:27.040 And let's pull up
00:21:28.440 the full context.
00:21:30.200 Brandon Borman knew.
00:21:31.640 To Ian's point,
00:21:33.420 can we truthfully claim
00:21:34.960 that this is part
00:21:35.640 of the policy?
00:21:36.420 I.e.,
00:21:37.340 as part of our approach
00:21:38.800 in addressing
00:21:39.360 potentially hacked materials,
00:21:41.180 we are limiting visibility
00:21:42.860 of related stories
00:21:43.900 on Twitter
00:21:44.400 while our investigation
00:21:45.520 is ongoing.
00:21:46.900 Now,
00:21:47.280 this is a brief moment
00:21:48.340 of,
00:21:48.960 okay,
00:21:49.160 we're lying.
00:21:50.340 Everyone knows
00:21:50.980 we're lying.
00:21:51.560 But do we have
00:21:52.980 any fig leaf
00:21:53.760 to pretend
00:21:54.500 that we're following
00:21:56.200 a policy
00:21:56.880 and we're not
00:21:57.840 simply doing
00:21:58.500 the behest
00:21:59.080 of Joe Biden
00:22:00.040 and the Democrats?
00:22:00.360 Is this almost
00:22:01.060 like a conspiracy
00:22:03.060 to commit fraud?
00:22:05.160 Where if you,
00:22:06.120 the way that they're talking...
00:22:07.160 I agree with every word
00:22:07.860 you said
00:22:08.260 except for the word
00:22:09.000 almost.
00:22:09.980 It is.
00:22:10.900 Conspiracy to commit fraud.
00:22:12.200 This is a conspiracy
00:22:13.440 to defraud
00:22:15.040 the American people,
00:22:16.160 to defraud
00:22:16.640 the American voters,
00:22:17.720 to defraud democracy.
00:22:19.440 This is,
00:22:20.140 to use the term
00:22:21.060 that Donald Trump likes,
00:22:22.260 this is rigging
00:22:22.820 an election.
00:22:24.040 This is,
00:22:24.560 this is conspiring...
00:22:25.760 Hold on,
00:22:25.980 I want you to say that again
00:22:26.900 because it's a very important
00:22:27.940 point that you just set.
00:22:30.340 This is evidence
00:22:31.680 of rigging an election.
00:22:33.520 Now,
00:22:33.940 it's not rigging
00:22:35.020 an election
00:22:35.580 in the sense
00:22:36.420 of Venezuela
00:22:38.020 hacking into
00:22:39.340 voting machines.
00:22:40.480 Right.
00:22:41.220 But it is rigging
00:22:42.100 an election
00:22:42.680 in the sense
00:22:43.520 of big tech
00:22:45.340 billionaires
00:22:46.400 at the behest
00:22:48.320 of one of the two parties
00:22:49.880 silencing
00:22:51.640 and censoring
00:22:53.140 and blocking
00:22:54.080 truthful reporting
00:22:56.180 about facts
00:22:58.360 that would change
00:23:00.160 how people vote.
00:23:01.800 So,
00:23:02.060 then there's an issue...
00:23:02.880 By the way,
00:23:03.300 you know,
00:23:03.480 you know who does this?
00:23:05.280 Putin does this.
00:23:06.660 You know who else does this?
00:23:08.380 China.
00:23:08.600 She does this.
00:23:09.240 This is how dictators behave.
00:23:12.060 If we have facts
00:23:12.960 you don't want to see,
00:23:14.300 right now,
00:23:15.160 Communist China
00:23:15.960 is stopping the protesters
00:23:17.380 from communicating
00:23:19.000 exactly the same way
00:23:21.200 Twitter was doing
00:23:22.180 at the behest
00:23:22.720 of the Biden White House.
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00:25:31.640 Let's keep going
00:25:32.340 through the thread.
00:25:33.180 Okay, now this is
00:25:33.820 a very interesting one.
00:25:35.540 To which former
00:25:36.280 Deputy General Counsel
00:25:37.680 Jim Baker
00:25:38.360 again seeks to advise
00:25:39.900 staying the non-course
00:25:41.740 because, quote,
00:25:42.680 caution is warranted.
00:25:44.280 Let's pull up
00:25:44.760 exactly what Baker said.
00:25:46.460 Jim Baker knew
00:25:47.300 privileged and confidential.
00:25:48.600 Notice the lawyer
00:25:49.160 sticks privilege
00:25:49.760 and confidential.
00:25:51.040 That's, oh crap,
00:25:52.040 this is a document
00:25:52.820 that would be really bad
00:25:53.720 if anyone sees.
00:25:55.320 By the way,
00:25:55.800 the thing that has
00:25:56.380 totally screwed them all
00:25:57.380 is Elon Musk
00:25:58.920 bought the company
00:25:59.620 and so you can always
00:26:01.160 waive privilege.
00:26:01.860 The fact that Elon Musk
00:26:02.760 decided to release it,
00:26:03.860 it's Twitter that has
00:26:04.760 the privilege.
00:26:05.540 Yeah.
00:26:05.800 So in litigation...
00:26:06.940 Not the individual.
00:26:07.720 Right.
00:26:08.760 Because Twitter
00:26:09.480 is the client.
00:26:10.220 So attorney-client privilege,
00:26:12.900 the client owns
00:26:14.220 and possesses it.
00:26:15.140 The client can waive
00:26:16.160 attorney-client privilege.
00:26:17.220 So when Jim Baker
00:26:18.760 typed this,
00:26:20.880 he figured,
00:26:21.540 well, Jack Dorsey
00:26:22.260 owns Twitter,
00:26:22.860 so Twitter will never
00:26:23.580 name this privilege.
00:26:24.640 And the relevance of this
00:26:25.840 is if you had a lawsuit
00:26:26.880 and the other side
00:26:28.980 filed for discovery
00:26:30.120 and tried to get
00:26:30.940 this email...
00:26:32.500 Anything that's labeled
00:26:33.640 privilege and confidential
00:26:34.640 off the record
00:26:35.640 at that point
00:26:36.180 or a lot of it,
00:26:36.880 you'd have an argument.
00:26:37.540 You would have an argument
00:26:38.500 in front of the court
00:26:39.340 about whether it was
00:26:40.160 in fact privilege,
00:26:41.340 whether it was
00:26:41.820 attorney-client privilege,
00:26:43.120 whether it was advice
00:26:43.920 being given to the client,
00:26:45.240 and there are ways
00:26:45.820 to waive that privilege,
00:26:46.840 but the simplest one
00:26:47.760 is for the client
00:26:48.400 to say,
00:26:48.960 I waive it,
00:26:49.760 which is what
00:26:50.380 Elon Musk has done
00:26:51.380 by releasing it.
00:26:52.420 So let's see
00:26:52.920 what Jim Baker says.
00:26:54.520 I support the conclusion
00:26:55.740 that we need more facts
00:26:56.960 to assess
00:26:57.580 whether the materials
00:26:59.100 were hacked.
00:26:59.620 In other words,
00:26:59.980 he's admitting
00:27:00.460 we don't know
00:27:00.880 if they were hacked or not.
00:27:02.440 At this stage, however,
00:27:04.440 it is reasonable
00:27:06.020 for us to assume
00:27:07.160 that they may have been
00:27:08.280 and that caution
00:27:10.280 is warranted.
00:27:11.020 By the way,
00:27:11.580 the Biden campaign
00:27:12.360 wasn't saying
00:27:12.820 they were hacked.
00:27:13.280 Never once
00:27:14.480 they say
00:27:14.900 the laptop
00:27:15.380 wasn't true.
00:27:16.160 Never once
00:27:16.740 the campaign
00:27:17.160 say that it was inaccurate.
00:27:19.340 Never once
00:27:20.020 they come out
00:27:20.500 and condemn it
00:27:21.140 or say anything
00:27:22.020 negative about it.
00:27:22.680 They were silenced
00:27:23.420 because they understood
00:27:24.100 that they couldn't
00:27:25.220 say that.
00:27:26.620 The email continues.
00:27:28.920 There are some facts
00:27:29.900 that indicate
00:27:30.600 that the materials
00:27:31.540 may have been hacked,
00:27:33.000 while there are others
00:27:34.100 indicating that
00:27:34.860 the computer
00:27:35.380 was either abandoned
00:27:36.440 and or the owner
00:27:37.960 consented to allow
00:27:39.100 the repair shop
00:27:39.980 to access it
00:27:40.880 for at least
00:27:42.200 some purposes.
00:27:43.220 We simply need
00:27:44.180 more information.
00:27:45.960 Now,
00:27:47.020 who is Jim Baker?
00:27:48.940 He was the general
00:27:49.680 counsel of Twitter.
00:27:50.680 Do you know what he did
00:27:51.440 before that?
00:27:52.300 What was his job
00:27:52.900 before that?
00:27:53.760 He was the general
00:27:54.460 counsel of the FBI
00:27:55.300 who, by the way...
00:27:57.280 Let everyone just
00:27:58.260 take a moment
00:27:58.700 to digest that.
00:27:59.620 That's a really big deal.
00:28:01.080 The FBI general counsel
00:28:03.080 who was...
00:28:03.660 Which is not a little job.
00:28:04.780 Explain how big
00:28:05.740 of a job that is
00:28:06.320 the FBI.
00:28:06.460 It's a huge job
00:28:07.680 in the FBI
00:28:08.340 and Jim Baker
00:28:09.220 was intimately involved
00:28:10.860 in much of the abuse
00:28:12.320 of power we saw
00:28:13.420 at the FBI.
00:28:14.820 He then runs over
00:28:16.320 and is at Twitter
00:28:18.060 doing the same thing,
00:28:19.380 continuing.
00:28:20.040 And one of the things
00:28:20.740 that comes out
00:28:21.400 in this thread
00:28:22.060 is how much
00:28:23.760 of a continuous web
00:28:25.280 it is
00:28:25.660 from the deep state
00:28:26.600 at the FBI
00:28:27.360 to big tech
00:28:29.560 and Twitter
00:28:30.100 which is willingly
00:28:31.060 part of the FBI's
00:28:32.680 effort to silence
00:28:34.220 dissent
00:28:34.940 from those
00:28:36.580 they disagree with.
00:28:37.640 It really is stunning
00:28:38.760 that it's literally
00:28:39.420 the same people.
00:28:41.320 Can I hit pause
00:28:42.440 on Twitter for a second?
00:28:43.880 And again,
00:28:44.860 I know that you don't know
00:28:45.860 but I think we can speculate
00:28:46.860 at this point.
00:28:48.160 If this was going on
00:28:49.640 at Twitter,
00:28:50.540 is there any
00:28:51.640 ounce
00:28:53.080 of your thought process
00:28:55.020 that thinks
00:28:55.480 that somehow
00:28:55.980 other big tech companies
00:28:57.180 like Facebook
00:28:57.780 were not doing
00:28:58.580 the exact same thing,
00:29:00.400 getting the exact
00:29:01.080 same emails,
00:29:02.560 having the exact
00:29:03.520 same communications
00:29:04.540 that we're now
00:29:05.220 seeing revealed
00:29:05.720 by Elon Musk?
00:29:06.580 They all were
00:29:07.880 and the mothership
00:29:08.700 is Google.
00:29:09.660 Google and they
00:29:10.420 own YouTube.
00:29:11.960 Google is the biggest
00:29:12.960 and the most powerful.
00:29:14.460 Twitter was the most brazen.
00:29:16.200 Like Dorsey was just
00:29:17.520 screw it all.
00:29:19.960 We're leftists
00:29:20.980 and we're proud.
00:29:22.980 But we know
00:29:23.800 Facebook was doing this.
00:29:25.020 They did the same thing
00:29:25.880 on the Hunter Biden story.
00:29:27.220 And Google is where
00:29:28.660 you have the biggest impact.
00:29:30.360 And so
00:29:30.660 I guarantee you
00:29:32.080 Google and Facebook
00:29:32.960 are both looking at this
00:29:34.120 going,
00:29:34.620 oh crap,
00:29:35.160 oh crap,
00:29:36.180 you're airing
00:29:36.660 dirty laundry.
00:29:37.440 Don't talk about this
00:29:38.280 in public.
00:29:39.080 First rule of Fight Club
00:29:40.160 is you don't talk
00:29:40.840 about Fight Club.
00:29:42.520 This,
00:29:43.540 for all of big tech
00:29:45.260 and the abuse of power,
00:29:46.760 this is pulling back
00:29:47.560 the curtain.
00:29:47.960 Let's go to the next one.
00:29:49.420 Although several sources
00:29:50.660 recalled hearing
00:29:51.480 about a quote
00:29:52.160 general warning
00:29:53.280 from federal law enforcement
00:29:54.600 that summer
00:29:55.660 about possible
00:29:56.660 foreign hacks,
00:29:58.380 there's no evidence
00:29:59.220 that I've seen
00:30:00.000 of any government
00:30:01.940 involvement
00:30:02.460 in the laptop story.
00:30:03.640 In fact,
00:30:04.680 that might have been
00:30:05.920 the problem.
00:30:06.660 Let's go on to the next one.
00:30:08.720 Quote,
00:30:09.740 they just freelanced it.
00:30:12.160 End quote.
00:30:13.120 Is how one former employee
00:30:14.940 characterized the decision.
00:30:16.900 Quote,
00:30:17.960 hacking was the excuse,
00:30:20.140 but within a few hours
00:30:21.240 pretty much
00:30:21.760 everyone realized
00:30:23.320 that wasn't going to hold.
00:30:25.820 But no one had the guts
00:30:28.020 to reverse it.
00:30:29.880 Now stop and think about that.
00:30:31.120 Like they made up
00:30:32.020 this hacking thing.
00:30:33.740 That was the alibi.
00:30:35.040 Nobody was claiming it.
00:30:37.060 Including the candidate,
00:30:38.120 including Hunter Biden.
00:30:39.520 Right.
00:30:39.960 If Hunter Biden
00:30:40.640 came forward
00:30:41.160 and said,
00:30:41.440 this is not my laptop.
00:30:42.760 Okay,
00:30:43.020 that might be something.
00:30:44.180 If Hunter Biden
00:30:44.660 had come forward
00:30:45.100 and said,
00:30:45.460 my laptop was hacked,
00:30:46.800 you might at least
00:30:47.420 have something.
00:30:47.960 None of that happened.
00:30:49.120 Twitter just made it up.
00:30:50.720 Oh crap,
00:30:51.220 bad stuff for Joe Biden.
00:30:52.400 I know it's hacked.
00:30:53.880 But within hours,
00:30:54.940 let me read again
00:30:55.640 the quote
00:30:56.120 from one former employee.
00:30:57.340 Within hours,
00:30:57.960 pretty much everyone realized
00:30:59.300 that wasn't going to hold.
00:31:00.460 But no one had the guts
00:31:01.920 to reverse it.
00:31:02.560 So they knew they were lying,
00:31:03.780 but they thought
00:31:04.160 they'd never get caught.
00:31:05.420 Next tweet.
00:31:07.040 All right.
00:31:07.700 An amazing subplot
00:31:09.400 of the Twitter
00:31:10.660 slash Hunter Biden
00:31:11.720 laptop affair
00:31:12.660 was how much was done
00:31:14.780 without the knowledge
00:31:15.760 of CEO Jack Dorsey
00:31:17.160 and how long it took
00:31:19.400 for the situation
00:31:20.440 to get un-effed.
00:31:22.460 Yeah.
00:31:22.760 Again,
00:31:23.200 they didn't abbreviate effed,
00:31:24.720 but we're,
00:31:25.560 this is a child-friendly show,
00:31:27.260 so we're doing so.
00:31:28.500 As one ex-employee put it,
00:31:30.120 even after Dorsey
00:31:32.900 jumped in.
00:31:34.880 So,
00:31:35.940 listen,
00:31:36.620 I don't exonerate Dorsey
00:31:37.780 in this.
00:31:39.340 He created a culture
00:31:40.900 where he put in place
00:31:43.020 decision makers
00:31:44.340 who were hard partisans,
00:31:47.580 who hated Donald Trump,
00:31:49.620 who wanted Biden to win,
00:31:51.620 and were willing
00:31:52.220 to do anything.
00:31:53.220 We're willing to lie.
00:31:54.340 We're willing to act
00:31:55.740 at the behest
00:31:56.400 of the Biden campaign.
00:31:57.580 Remember the exchange
00:31:59.220 at the beginning.
00:31:59.800 Handled it.
00:32:00.280 Handled it.
00:32:00.760 Yeah.
00:32:01.140 They viewed themselves
00:32:02.620 as we have an obligation.
00:32:05.320 What's the obligation?
00:32:07.200 Learn from the,
00:32:08.540 quote,
00:32:08.640 lessons of 2016
00:32:10.340 and make sure
00:32:11.980 it doesn't happen again.
00:32:13.100 There's been a lot
00:32:13.880 of reporting
00:32:14.420 saying Jack Dorsey,
00:32:15.940 as it's mentioned there,
00:32:17.040 knew nothing.
00:32:18.240 Was that on purpose
00:32:19.240 by these employees,
00:32:20.300 or do you think
00:32:20.760 maybe he said,
00:32:21.620 leave me out of it
00:32:22.660 so I have the ability,
00:32:24.120 you know,
00:32:24.400 denyability,
00:32:25.200 or do you think
00:32:26.280 they just knew
00:32:26.960 their marching orders
00:32:27.620 so well,
00:32:28.160 we can do this
00:32:29.100 and this is normal
00:32:30.040 act of business for us,
00:32:31.440 we're just going
00:32:31.920 to keep doing it.
00:32:32.480 We don't need to call him
00:32:33.280 because this is what
00:32:34.040 we've been doing
00:32:34.540 for all these other stories
00:32:35.800 possibly.
00:32:36.460 You know,
00:32:36.840 some combination.
00:32:38.140 Who knows?
00:32:38.780 Who knows where he was?
00:32:39.980 Who knows what he was doing?
00:32:41.140 Who knows what his state
00:32:41.900 of mind was
00:32:42.800 at the time this was happening?
00:32:44.320 I don't know any of that.
00:32:45.940 Because you've actually
00:32:46.960 questioned Dorsey.
00:32:48.220 I have questioned Dorsey.
00:32:49.320 And it got pretty intense
00:32:50.960 when you were questioning him.
00:32:52.180 We have gotten into it
00:32:53.900 on this topic
00:32:55.280 and in a subsequent verdict
00:32:56.500 we'll pull up
00:32:57.380 and go back to Dorsey's
00:32:58.960 testimony before Congress
00:33:00.660 in light of this exchange.
00:33:02.180 That will be
00:33:03.160 one of the podcasts
00:33:04.580 coming up.
00:33:05.380 Let's finish going
00:33:06.180 through this thread.
00:33:07.540 All right,
00:33:07.740 now here's an interesting thing.
00:33:08.880 I'm just going to read this.
00:33:10.620 In one humorous exchange
00:33:11.980 on day one,
00:33:12.900 Democratic Congressman Ro Khanna
00:33:14.500 reaches out to Gaddy
00:33:15.720 to gently suggest
00:33:17.440 she hop on the phone
00:33:18.360 to talk about
00:33:19.340 the quote
00:33:19.920 backlash re-speech.
00:33:22.780 Khanna was the only
00:33:24.680 Democratic official
00:33:25.960 I could find
00:33:26.760 in the files
00:33:27.420 who expressed concern.
00:33:29.520 And let's look
00:33:29.900 at his email.
00:33:31.620 Ro Khanna wrote,
00:33:33.080 generating a huge
00:33:34.700 backlash on Hill
00:33:36.280 re-speech.
00:33:38.300 Happy to chat
00:33:39.020 if you're up for it.
00:33:39.900 Best Ro.
00:33:40.900 So,
00:33:41.920 number one,
00:33:42.620 this Democrat Congressman
00:33:43.780 is on a first name basis
00:33:45.180 with these high
00:33:46.500 muckety mucks
00:33:47.080 at Twitter.
00:33:48.980 Sends him this email.
00:33:50.600 To his credit,
00:33:51.700 look,
00:33:51.980 I don't know Ro Khanna.
00:33:54.680 My understanding is...
00:33:55.680 But at least he understood
00:33:56.160 this is a bad road
00:33:57.260 to go down.
00:33:57.860 He's a left-wing Democrat,
00:33:59.340 but apparently
00:33:59.840 he's one of the very few
00:34:01.420 liberals
00:34:02.200 who actually
00:34:03.020 is a real liberal
00:34:03.880 in that they believe
00:34:04.580 in free speech.
00:34:05.700 But,
00:34:06.140 let's do the next one.
00:34:08.180 Twitter files
00:34:08.960 continued,
00:34:09.580 quote,
00:34:10.080 the First Amendment
00:34:11.760 isn't absolute.
00:34:13.280 Szabo's letter
00:34:14.040 contains chilling passages
00:34:15.580 relaying
00:34:16.340 Democratic lawmakers'
00:34:18.060 attitudes.
00:34:18.860 They want
00:34:19.420 more
00:34:20.360 moderation
00:34:21.560 and as for
00:34:22.340 the Bill of Rights,
00:34:23.120 it's, quote,
00:34:23.680 not absolute.
00:34:24.460 Let's read the whole thing here.
00:34:26.340 The Democrats,
00:34:27.160 meanwhile,
00:34:27.620 complained
00:34:28.060 that the companies
00:34:28.920 are inept.
00:34:30.040 They let conservatives
00:34:31.340 muddy the water
00:34:32.120 and make the Biden campaign
00:34:34.080 look corrupt
00:34:34.800 even though
00:34:35.220 Biden is innocent.
00:34:36.760 They link this
00:34:37.600 to Hillary Clinton's
00:34:38.440 email scandal.
00:34:39.280 She did nothing wrong,
00:34:40.800 but the press
00:34:41.820 wouldn't let the story go.
00:34:43.760 It became a scandal
00:34:44.740 far out of proportion.
00:34:46.460 In their mind,
00:34:47.260 social media
00:34:47.780 is doing the same thing.
00:34:48.820 It doesn't moderate
00:34:49.620 enough harmful content
00:34:51.500 so that when it does,
00:34:53.060 like it did yesterday,
00:34:54.080 it becomes a story.
00:34:55.420 If the companies
00:34:56.460 moderated more,
00:34:58.200 if they censored more,
00:34:59.960 conservatives
00:35:00.460 wouldn't even think
00:35:01.700 to use social media
00:35:03.120 for disinformation,
00:35:04.620 misinformation,
00:35:04.800 or otherwise,
00:35:05.960 and it continues,
00:35:06.660 the Democrats
00:35:07.240 were in agreement.
00:35:08.860 Social media
00:35:09.560 needs to moderate more
00:35:11.560 because they're
00:35:13.200 corrupting democracy
00:35:14.620 and making all,
00:35:16.340 quote,
00:35:16.420 truth relative.
00:35:19.060 When pushed
00:35:19.920 on how the government
00:35:20.760 might insist on that,
00:35:23.900 consistent with
00:35:24.740 the First Amendment,
00:35:25.620 they demurred.
00:35:26.760 Quote,
00:35:27.700 the First Amendment
00:35:28.860 isn't absolute.
00:35:30.260 Now,
00:35:30.880 this guy is a consultant
00:35:32.180 or a lobbyist.
00:35:33.140 I'm not sure
00:35:33.480 what he does exactly,
00:35:34.340 but it's some guy
00:35:35.060 on Capitol Hill
00:35:36.540 who's talking to
00:35:37.720 a whole bunch
00:35:38.240 of Democrat lawmakers
00:35:39.700 right in the middle
00:35:40.460 of this.
00:35:41.320 And he's reporting back
00:35:42.580 that, hey,
00:35:42.920 when I talk to the Democrats,
00:35:44.840 other than Ro Khanna,
00:35:46.280 none of them are unhappy
00:35:47.300 at you censoring this story,
00:35:49.020 but they are unhappy
00:35:50.860 you're not censoring more.
00:35:52.100 The request from Democrats
00:35:53.580 is censor more.
00:35:56.980 In fact,
00:35:57.840 censor so much
00:35:59.200 that conservatives
00:36:00.880 won't even be able
00:36:01.480 to tell you're censoring it
00:36:02.560 because you just
00:36:03.000 silence everything.
00:36:04.460 And that's what they did.
00:36:05.700 Everything was fact-checked.
00:36:07.020 We saw,
00:36:07.660 look,
00:36:08.240 I was at CNN
00:36:09.180 at the time
00:36:09.700 when this was happening
00:36:10.340 as a conservative commentator
00:36:11.560 fighting the tough fight there.
00:36:13.420 We had to deal
00:36:14.280 with media matters
00:36:15.240 and we had to deal
00:36:16.260 with all of the things
00:36:17.280 we were sharing
00:36:18.100 being silenced.
00:36:19.040 And it happened
00:36:19.920 instantaneous.
00:36:21.360 Yep.
00:36:21.700 And now you have to wonder
00:36:23.000 if you're not paranoid,
00:36:24.980 you're just dealing
00:36:25.780 with probably the reality
00:36:26.760 that they said,
00:36:27.380 hey,
00:36:27.900 these conservatives
00:36:28.760 that are on TV,
00:36:29.700 we want to shut them down.
00:36:31.100 These conservatives,
00:36:31.980 we need to start
00:36:32.500 nailing them
00:36:33.080 and silencing them
00:36:33.920 and making sure
00:36:34.360 their distribution's gone.
00:36:35.760 And clearly
00:36:36.440 from those early texts,
00:36:38.040 it was anything
00:36:38.800 that went viral.
00:36:39.760 You didn't have to be famous.
00:36:41.660 You didn't have to have
00:36:42.280 a blue check mark.
00:36:43.220 And notice
00:36:43.620 the Democrat congressmen
00:36:45.040 are complaining about,
00:36:46.400 quote,
00:36:46.520 truth.
00:36:47.240 Right.
00:36:48.240 The Hunter laptop
00:36:49.280 was true.
00:36:50.880 And they knew it was true.
00:36:51.940 And,
00:36:52.420 well,
00:36:53.280 they knew at least
00:36:54.020 that the Biden campaign
00:36:54.880 wasn't denying it.
00:36:55.780 They didn't care.
00:36:57.060 Their definition of truth
00:36:58.600 is anything
00:36:59.780 that politically
00:37:00.500 benefits Democrats,
00:37:01.860 their definition
00:37:03.180 of false,
00:37:04.260 is anything
00:37:04.840 that politically
00:37:05.420 hurts Democrats.
00:37:06.260 All right,
00:37:06.400 let's move to the next one.
00:37:08.180 All right,
00:37:08.440 so this is a very interesting,
00:37:09.720 this is not part
00:37:10.400 of the Twitter thread,
00:37:11.240 but to understand,
00:37:12.640 you asked what are
00:37:13.420 the consequences
00:37:14.080 going to be.
00:37:14.540 Yeah.
00:37:15.020 So this is a tweet
00:37:16.100 from Sean Cooksey.
00:37:17.100 Sean Cooksey
00:37:17.700 is a commissioner
00:37:18.780 on the FEC,
00:37:20.360 the Federal Elections Commission.
00:37:22.080 I know Sean well.
00:37:23.080 Sean used to be a lawyer
00:37:24.220 on my staff
00:37:25.000 in the Senate office
00:37:25.760 before he got appointed
00:37:27.080 and confirmed
00:37:27.640 to the FEC.
00:37:28.600 Here's what Sean Cooksey
00:37:29.960 tweets out.
00:37:31.420 Here's what Twitter
00:37:32.360 told the FEC
00:37:33.620 in its response
00:37:35.060 to a complaint
00:37:35.900 about this event.
00:37:37.360 Quote,
00:37:38.840 Twitter did not receive
00:37:40.000 a request
00:37:40.600 from the Biden campaign
00:37:41.780 to review,
00:37:43.120 much less restrict,
00:37:45.100 the New York Post articles.
00:37:46.720 And go to the next one.
00:37:48.420 Nor did decision makers
00:37:49.860 at Twitter,
00:37:51.320 or to the best
00:37:52.140 of the company's knowledge,
00:37:53.780 anyone authorized
00:37:54.860 to act on Twitter's behalf,
00:37:56.560 even communicate
00:37:57.400 with the Biden campaign
00:37:58.760 regarding Twitter's decision
00:38:00.820 to enforce
00:38:01.480 its content moderation policies
00:38:03.360 with respect
00:38:04.520 to the New York Post articles.
00:38:06.700 You want to talk
00:38:07.480 about very real consequences.
00:38:10.000 It appears
00:38:10.980 that Twitter lied
00:38:15.220 to the Federal Election Commission,
00:38:16.620 and I will point out,
00:38:17.480 so I've got here
00:38:18.640 in my hand
00:38:19.560 their actual response.
00:38:21.440 It's a lengthy response
00:38:22.700 where they make
00:38:23.220 those statements,
00:38:23.900 but they attach
00:38:24.660 at the back
00:38:26.000 of
00:38:26.520 their response
00:38:29.340 two sworn affidavits,
00:38:31.420 one from Yoel Roth,
00:38:33.440 who's one of the senior officials
00:38:35.060 deeply implicated in this,
00:38:37.300 where he says,
00:38:39.060 here are a couple of things
00:38:39.980 in his sworn affidavit.
00:38:40.980 As a matter of practice,
00:38:42.500 neither I nor the other members
00:38:43.700 of the Site Integrity team
00:38:44.760 communicate directly
00:38:45.600 with persons outside Twitter
00:38:46.880 that report content
00:38:48.200 for violating Twitter's policies.
00:38:49.780 That's a lie.
00:38:50.520 We know that.
00:38:51.540 Although he does say then,
00:38:53.280 since 2018,
00:38:54.420 I've had regular meetings
00:38:55.480 with the Office
00:38:56.080 of the Director
00:38:56.620 of National Intelligence,
00:38:58.180 the Department
00:38:58.620 of Homeland Security,
00:38:59.820 the FBI,
00:39:00.900 and industry peers
00:39:02.240 regarding election security.
00:39:04.580 And then he goes on,
00:39:06.160 he says,
00:39:07.520 Twitter's trust
00:39:08.740 and safety leadership
00:39:09.740 determined that
00:39:10.600 the New York Post articles
00:39:11.860 violated the distribution
00:39:13.700 of hacked materials policy
00:39:15.520 and the private information policy
00:39:17.520 and instructed
00:39:18.220 the Site Integrity team
00:39:19.500 to execute enforcement
00:39:21.100 of those policies.
00:39:22.180 We know from these
00:39:22.700 internal discussions,
00:39:23.760 no, they didn't determine
00:39:24.720 it violated the hacked policies.
00:39:26.300 They pulled that
00:39:27.460 out of their rear end
00:39:28.380 and then realized,
00:39:29.460 oh crap,
00:39:29.840 there's no evidence for us,
00:39:30.780 no basis for us,
00:39:31.780 but, well,
00:39:32.600 let's just stick to it.
00:39:34.160 Run out the clock
00:39:35.040 until election day.
00:39:36.560 And Roth's
00:39:37.480 sworn affidavit,
00:39:39.560 the final two paragraphs
00:39:40.760 I want to read for you.
00:39:42.700 I did not receive
00:39:43.380 any communications from
00:39:44.560 or have any communications
00:39:45.600 with representatives
00:39:46.560 for Biden for president,
00:39:48.340 the Democratic National Committee,
00:39:49.580 or any of their agents
00:39:50.520 regarding the New York Post article
00:39:51.840 before Twitter implemented
00:39:52.940 the enforcement actions
00:39:54.160 on October 14, 2020.
00:39:56.040 Final paragraph of the affidavit.
00:39:58.040 To the best of my knowledge,
00:39:59.220 no Twitter employees
00:40:00.100 received any communications
00:40:01.240 from or had any communications
00:40:02.400 with representatives
00:40:03.560 of Biden for president,
00:40:04.680 the Democratic National Committee,
00:40:05.760 or any of their agents
00:40:06.420 regarding the New York Post
00:40:07.340 article before Twitter
00:40:08.620 implemented the enforcement actions
00:40:10.060 on October 14, 2020.
00:40:12.220 There's a second sworn affidavit
00:40:13.860 from Lauren Culberson,
00:40:16.940 who was the head
00:40:18.000 of U.S. public policy
00:40:19.280 and she likewise,
00:40:21.500 she says that she's
00:40:24.800 the point person
00:40:25.600 for office holders,
00:40:26.800 election officials,
00:40:27.520 candidates,
00:40:27.940 campaigns,
00:40:28.340 and party committees,
00:40:29.240 and she says that
00:40:30.380 the public policy team
00:40:31.680 receives requests
00:40:32.560 from persons for tweets
00:40:33.780 to be reviewed
00:40:34.480 for compliance
00:40:35.460 with Twitter's policy
00:40:36.560 and we forward
00:40:38.140 those requests
00:40:38.920 to review content
00:40:39.840 to enforcement agents,
00:40:40.860 including members
00:40:41.940 of the trust and safety teams.
00:40:43.400 So she's the portal
00:40:44.480 to send the request on
00:40:46.180 and then she has
00:40:47.320 the final two things.
00:40:48.420 I didn't receive
00:40:48.900 any communications
00:40:49.520 with Biden.
00:40:50.260 To the best of my knowledge,
00:40:51.360 no one else received
00:40:52.040 communications with Biden.
00:40:53.020 And they're sworn affidavits.
00:40:54.780 So that changes things.
00:40:56.840 These two individuals
00:40:57.720 who signed their name
00:40:58.680 to sworn affidavits,
00:40:59.960 if they don't have lawyers,
00:41:01.700 they need to call a lawyer.
00:41:03.020 They need to call a lawyer
00:41:04.020 right now
00:41:04.780 because they are facing
00:41:06.500 potential civil liability,
00:41:08.100 potential criminal liability.
00:41:09.800 And I'll point out
00:41:10.820 on top of that,
00:41:12.200 Twitter faces liability,
00:41:13.760 but you know who else
00:41:14.380 faces liability?
00:41:16.100 The Biden campaign
00:41:17.540 and the DNC.
00:41:19.320 Really?
00:41:19.760 So they could be sued
00:41:21.260 and it could be legitimate.
00:41:23.520 Well, look,
00:41:24.300 the basis of the complaint
00:41:25.780 that Twitter lied
00:41:26.780 to the FEC about
00:41:27.900 was that Twitter
00:41:30.240 blocking the Hunter Biden story
00:41:33.360 was an in-kind campaign
00:41:35.300 contribution
00:41:36.140 to Biden for president.
00:41:38.860 And so their whole defense is,
00:41:40.040 no, no, no,
00:41:40.280 we just did this
00:41:40.980 based on our
00:41:41.480 hacked materials policy.
00:41:42.700 It wasn't about Biden at all.
00:41:45.780 We now know
00:41:46.560 that's a total lie.
00:41:47.560 And I'll tell you
00:41:47.940 what's interesting.
00:41:49.160 The next tranche of materials
00:41:50.600 is dropping
00:41:51.660 any minute now.
00:41:53.320 Which means
00:41:54.120 we know what Wednesday's show
00:41:55.180 is going to be about.
00:41:56.020 Yep.
00:41:56.260 We're going to keep doing
00:41:57.260 a deep dive into this.
00:41:58.820 I will say this
00:41:59.820 to everyone
00:42:00.680 that is listening
00:42:01.440 and watching us.
00:42:02.860 Wednesday morning,
00:42:03.860 we will continue
00:42:04.760 part two of this.
00:42:05.980 We will go through it
00:42:07.120 for you
00:42:07.580 so you understand
00:42:08.060 what's happening.
00:42:09.000 We do want you
00:42:09.860 to get in the fight
00:42:10.460 and the game.
00:42:11.240 Make sure you hit
00:42:12.000 that forward button,
00:42:12.980 the share button,
00:42:13.800 share the video,
00:42:15.080 the audio file
00:42:15.860 with all your family
00:42:16.600 and friends.
00:42:17.340 Senator Cruz
00:42:17.760 is going to keep
00:42:18.420 going deep
00:42:19.300 into this
00:42:19.840 on Wednesday morning.
00:42:21.220 We do this podcast
00:42:22.380 Monday,
00:42:23.400 Wednesdays,
00:42:23.980 and Fridays.
00:42:24.860 I have a feeling
00:42:25.620 all this week
00:42:26.640 it's going to be
00:42:27.520 on this.
00:42:28.520 So if you miss
00:42:29.700 an episode,
00:42:30.560 make sure you go back
00:42:31.660 and listen to it.
00:42:32.780 As this keeps coming out
00:42:34.080 and I have a feeling,
00:42:35.140 Senator,
00:42:35.340 and I think you'll
00:42:35.860 agree with me,
00:42:36.880 what they're doing
00:42:37.780 at Twitter right now
00:42:38.880 is they're saying
00:42:39.480 this is who we were
00:42:40.740 and we're not going
00:42:42.120 to be this moving forward
00:42:43.000 and we're not going
00:42:43.960 to pull back from this.
00:42:45.500 We're going to keep
00:42:46.280 unloading this information
00:42:47.560 in a way.
00:42:48.720 And it was clear,
00:42:49.780 Elon Musk said,
00:42:50.620 this is basically
00:42:51.500 just the beginning.
00:42:52.540 Now I would assume
00:42:53.140 he's seen everything,
00:42:54.360 which means there's
00:42:54.980 a lot more to this
00:42:55.920 and it gets worse
00:42:57.020 than what we've even seen.
00:42:58.700 So stay with us all week.
00:43:00.320 It's going to be
00:43:00.980 very interesting
00:43:01.820 to see what this means.
00:43:03.320 I'm going to make
00:43:03.920 a prediction.
00:43:04.900 I think this is going
00:43:05.820 to bring a lot of pain
00:43:06.900 to Facebook at some point.
00:43:08.560 Absolutely.
00:43:09.000 And I think what
00:43:09.840 it's also seeing now
00:43:11.020 is this is...
00:43:12.100 The worrying you're hearing
00:43:13.120 is document shredders
00:43:14.400 at Facebook and Google
00:43:15.820 and YouTube
00:43:16.360 that they're shredding
00:43:17.580 things like crazy
00:43:18.540 because they're worried
00:43:19.700 what's coming next.
00:43:20.500 Well, and if there's anything
00:43:21.480 you can connect
00:43:22.540 these two dots with
00:43:23.560 is what they were doing
00:43:25.540 with the laptop
00:43:26.300 and the way they dealt
00:43:27.620 with these things
00:43:28.220 is exactly the same way
00:43:29.820 that they were dealing
00:43:30.920 with Dr. Fauci
00:43:32.200 and anything he wanted
00:43:34.040 to be silenced
00:43:35.120 with COVID-19.
00:43:36.660 And if you look at
00:43:37.760 how different
00:43:38.340 those stories are,
00:43:39.260 one was, quote,
00:43:40.160 fake hack material,
00:43:41.140 the other one was
00:43:41.740 just a government saying
00:43:42.700 we want the narrative
00:43:43.860 to be what it is,
00:43:44.980 I think these stories
00:43:46.060 are going to be intertwined
00:43:46.980 in a way like we never
00:43:47.880 could have imagined.
00:43:49.000 Stay with us all week long.
00:43:50.440 We'll see you back
00:43:51.140 Wednesday morning.
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