Verdict with Ted Cruz - UNCUT! ALL the Evidence of Joe Biden's Corruption with James Comer

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00:00:05.120 Well, let me first off say Merry Christmas to you and your family.

00:00:09.820 Senator Ted Cruz and I, Ben Ferguson, want to make sure that we wish you and your family

00:00:13.720 again a very Merry Christmas.

00:00:16.220 And we also know that many of you are on the road going to see family and friends and celebrating

00:00:21.380 the birth of Jesus Christ.

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00:00:28.540 on these drives, and we love that you're listening to this show right now.

00:00:32.120 We decided what we were going to do is put unedited the entire three-part series with James Comer

00:00:38.820 together.

00:00:39.880 This is going to be very big, and when Congress comes back into session, it's going to have

00:00:46.180 an awful lot to deal with the investigations into the Biden crime family.

00:00:52.180 If there's any story from 2023 that's going to move into 2024, it's going to be this story.

00:00:59.340 And that's why we want to make sure that if you did miss any of those three-part series

00:01:03.080 with James Comer, that you were able to hear it here today.

00:01:05.900 So we're going to play that for you, like I said, unedited in its entirety right now.

00:01:09.760 And again, we want to also make sure we take a moment.

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00:01:22.180 but the entire world.

00:01:23.780 It is incredible, and I hope that you will take that time with your family to talk to

00:01:29.440 your kids, your grandkids about the true meaning of Christmas.

00:01:32.620 It has become obviously so commercialized, and I just want to say, please take that moment.

00:01:38.340 Remind them what this season's all about.

00:01:40.380 So again, to you and your family, Merry Christmas.

00:01:42.520 And here is our unedited three-part series, all together with James Comer.

00:01:46.880 Senator, this is going to be a really fun, multi-part series.

00:01:50.620 And for everyone that's watching or listening, if you're listening to this episode, we ask

00:01:55.140 you to please share it everywhere.

00:01:56.520 We're going to say that on the very beginning front of this on social media, this is going

00:02:00.320 to be a multi-part series with a dear friend of yours, Congressman James Comer, who's doing

00:02:05.080 unbelievable work in the House going after the Biden crime family.

00:02:09.620 And I want you to introduce your good friend.

00:02:11.260 Well, James, welcome back to Verdict.

00:02:14.660 This is your second time that you've been with us.

00:02:17.540 We had you earlier this year for a two-part series in which we broke down, and you went

00:02:22.700 through the details of the very systematic investigation you're leading in the House.

00:02:27.560 We're now at the end of the year, and so we're coming back for yet another multi-part series

00:02:32.320 to really get into the substance.

00:02:34.860 And a lot has been happening lately.

00:02:37.380 We just had Hunter Biden defy a congressional subpoena.

00:02:41.320 We just had the full House of Representatives vote to authorize formally the impeachment inquiry.

00:02:48.800 And this week, there's some breaking news.

00:02:51.300 You're sending your investigative team on the road.

00:02:55.060 Why don't we start by telling us about that?

00:02:57.100 Yeah, so obviously, a lot of these people that we've asked for interviews and depositions,

00:03:03.940 they're trying to use the holiday as an excuse why they can't come in and do it.

00:03:09.320 So we decided we would make it more convenient on them and send our staff to depose them or

00:03:16.220 interview them in their home area.

00:03:18.480 So the first one we're doing is with the owner of AmeriCorps Health, and AmeriCorps Health

00:03:25.820 was the health care company where James Biden, the president's brother, approached them because

00:03:31.860 he heard they were financially distressed and said that because he's a Biden and because

00:03:37.940 of his brother's contacts in the Middle East, that he could help them acquire all the capital

00:03:45.260 they needed to get back on their feet from the Middle East. 0.97

00:03:48.880 But they were going to have to pay Jim Biden first.

00:03:51.820 And they gave him $600,000.

00:03:55.880 And by all accounts, Jim Biden completely defrauded AmeriCorps Health.

00:04:00.620 He never provided any funding or anything else.

00:04:03.660 But what's ironic about this for Joe Biden, not only was that a pure example of influence

00:04:09.080 peddling, Joe Biden received the last payment from AmeriCorps Health.

00:04:14.560 They sent a check to Jim Biden for $200,000.

00:04:18.860 The exact same day that Jim Biden received that $200,000 check from AmeriCorps Health,

00:04:26.020 they wrote Joe Biden a check for the exact same amount, $200,000.

00:04:31.320 So that was the first example of evidence that we found where Joe Biden directly benefited from

00:04:38.760 the Biden family influence peddling scheme.

00:04:40.820 So we're going to have our deposers down there talking to them about how this started and

00:04:46.760 what role Joe Biden may have played and if they ever met Joe Biden and all of that.

00:04:52.480 So that should be very interesting.

00:04:54.500 It's interesting.

00:04:54.880 You didn't mention the name Hunter Biden in that story of influence peddling.

00:04:58.820 That is the part that I think many Americans have maybe not understood, which is this is

00:05:04.560 the entire family that's been involved in getting paid.

00:05:07.940 Can you go into that a little bit more about about James Biden, not just Hunter?

00:05:11.280 Yeah, I think James Biden probably committed just as many crimes as Hunter Biden.

00:05:17.400 The only reason we don't know about James Biden is he didn't leave a laptop lying around.

00:05:22.720 We've been able to subpoena his bank records.

00:05:25.960 And I can tell you, there's a lot of questions we have for James Biden.

00:05:30.020 That's why he received a subpoena.

00:05:32.080 We're working with his attorney and we hope to have him in in January.

00:05:36.700 But at the end of the day, this example with AmeriCorps Health sure looks like securities fraud.

00:05:42.380 I mean, I don't know how else you would you would describe it, but obviously they deserve

00:05:47.540 due process and they're going to have due process.

00:05:49.500 But we know from court records, this AmeriCorps Health is in federal bankruptcy court.

00:05:55.480 They obviously have accused Jim Biden of a lot of things.

00:05:59.900 So this is all public record.

00:06:02.340 And, you know, it shows that it wasn't just Hunter Biden.

00:06:05.140 This was the whole Biden family.

00:06:06.900 So AmeriCorps Health paid Jim.

00:06:12.280 Biden, six hundred thousand dollars.

00:06:14.780 As best you can tell, did Jim Biden perform any any service for them?

00:06:19.600 Do anything of value for them?

00:06:22.340 According to the court records, AmeriCorps Health says no.

00:06:27.600 Other than he went there and, you know, made all these promises that, you know, Joe Biden's

00:06:33.480 contacts, they would work together and help them get all the money from the Middle East.

00:06:39.300 But they never got any.

00:06:40.520 This is they never got a penny.

00:06:42.780 They never got one penny.

00:06:44.300 And it looks like, Senator, on Jim Biden's bank statements, they tried to say that six

00:06:51.580 hundred thousand dollar payment was a loan.

00:06:54.640 And I think that's a very important aspect of our investigation, because from the notes

00:06:59.580 that the whistleblowers have turned over, we know that, you know, sometime in 2018, the

00:07:06.020 Bidens figured out that the IRS was breathing down their necks.

00:07:10.040 They knew that they had all these suspicious activity reports from the banks that were accusing

00:07:15.080 of money laundering and having shell companies and potentially taking bribes.

00:07:19.820 And they changed the way they were operating.

00:07:23.040 And they went from receiving wires directly through the shelves to receiving payments and

00:07:29.160 calling them loans.

00:07:30.480 So I want to stop and unpack a lot of that.

00:07:34.400 So so we hear from the Democrats.

00:07:37.440 We hear from the corrupt corporate media.

00:07:39.560 There's no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, especially no evidence of Joe Biden's involvement.

00:07:44.580 So I want to break down because you had a lot of substance there on the shell companies.

00:07:48.460 How many Biden shell companies did did y'all uncover?

00:07:52.740 20.

00:07:53.460 And let me make sure everyone understands this.

00:07:55.340 A shell company is a company with no assets and no known purpose.

00:07:59.920 So the bank email that we released two weeks ago showed the bank examiner saying, you know,

00:08:05.740 they got this wire from China and he says it's an investment company, but it's an investment

00:08:10.440 company with no investments.

00:08:12.200 And then the account that it went through was essentially a dormant account.

00:08:16.580 So there's evidence that the bank examiners.

00:08:19.580 And if you look at and also the suspicious activity reports, the banks knew these were

00:08:24.080 shell companies and the banks did everything they were supposed to do by notifying Treasury

00:08:29.480 that, wait a minute, this politically exposed family, they're getting wires from our enemies

00:08:34.820 around the world.

00:08:35.900 We don't know what these wires are for.

00:08:37.520 And they're going through companies that have no known purpose or no assets.

00:08:40.940 So shell companies, they're not real businesses.

00:08:43.180 This is not a dry cleaner.

00:08:44.660 This is not a gas station.

00:08:45.920 There are no employees.

00:08:47.420 There are no paychecks.

00:08:48.480 They're not a business in any sense.

00:08:50.460 This is a legal entity and it's a legal entity created to send money to.

00:08:54.000 And it's what is often used for money laundering.

00:08:57.300 It's what's often used to hide the source of the money.

00:09:02.260 And you mentioned the suspicious activity reports.

00:09:05.820 So let me ask for our listeners, what is a suspicious activity report and how many of

00:09:11.920 them were filed on the Bidens?

00:09:13.380 A suspicious activity report is when the bank notifies the Treasury cabinet that they believe

00:09:20.340 their client may have committed a crime.

00:09:23.600 Now, I want everyone to understand this.

00:09:25.600 Banks don't just do this nonchalantly like the Washington Post tried to say.

00:09:30.260 No bank wants to file a suspicious activity report, Senator, because when you do, that invites

00:09:35.140 the bank examiners to come in and investigate you.

00:09:39.220 And the last thing a bank wants to do is see bank examiners walk through the front door.

00:09:43.820 The Bidens had 170 suspicious activity reports filed against him, which is unprecedented.

00:09:51.120 I was a director of a bank for over a decade.

00:09:53.260 Never has anyone received more than one or two that was affiliated with my bank.

00:09:58.700 And the fact that this family got 170 from six different banks on dozens of different

00:10:06.500 accounts showed that there's something bad going on here because the banks are notifying

00:10:11.440 the Treasury.

00:10:12.280 I'm sorry, Treasury.

00:10:13.800 We believe the vice president's family are involved in some type of fraud.

00:10:20.180 Well, and James, let me make sure I understand this.

00:10:24.080 Suspicious activity reports are relatively rare.

00:10:26.720 There's something that the bank files with the Treasury Department when they believe there

00:10:31.100 may be evidence of criminal conduct.

00:10:33.440 And if you or I or Ben went and created a shell company, a company that did nothing, that had

00:10:38.640 no employees, that was not a going business, and that shell company began getting multi-million

00:10:44.480 dollar wires from China, from Russia, from Ukraine, that would be the sort of conduct that

00:10:50.920 would trigger a suspicious activity report if any of us did that.

00:10:54.060 Is that right?

00:10:54.480 That's exactly right.

00:10:56.400 And we released an email last week that kind of showed the thought process by a bank examiner.

00:11:01.640 He was communicating with his superior.

00:11:05.600 And in the end, they filed a suspicious activity report.

00:11:09.080 And this email kind of outlines it.

00:11:11.040 The bank examiner said, wait a minute, you know, this account is pretty much dormant.

00:11:15.860 We don't know what this company is.

00:11:17.900 All we know is that the president's son owns it.

00:11:20.900 He got a five million dollar wire from China.

00:11:23.980 We had to contact him to prevent a thar. 1.00

00:11:27.000 We said, I'm sorry, Mr. Biden, we need to know what this wire was.

00:11:31.000 And he said it was a loan.

00:11:32.560 And there's like, oh, a loan from China.

00:11:34.780 Well, we need the loan documentation.

00:11:36.920 And he said, I don't have any, which is ridiculous.

00:11:40.040 No one would loan anyone five million dollars without having some type of loan documentation.

00:11:45.080 So then he said, we fear this could be a bribe because we know China influences politicians through vulnerable family members.

00:11:54.800 And we've seen in the news where his ex-wife said he was on drugs.

00:11:58.940 He was in financial trouble.

00:12:00.420 We believe this could be a real national security threat.

00:12:03.680 So that's as serious of an email as I've ever seen from a major bank examiner.

00:12:08.080 Yeah, look, that is very serious.

00:12:10.960 And, of course, CNN doesn't cover that.

00:12:13.460 MSNBC doesn't cover that.

00:12:14.840 ABC, CBS, NBC, the corporate media, that email doesn't exist.

00:12:20.160 Now, as far as the corporate media is concerned, one of the things that you mentioned a minute ago that I want to stop and drill down on a little bit.

00:12:27.960 You said early on, the Biden family business, they would just get wires from overseas that were payments through these shell companies.

00:12:37.820 But then there came a time when the IRS started coming after them, when they changed how they did business.

00:12:44.300 And they began, instead of getting wires that were straight out payments, they began calling them loans.

00:12:49.820 Explain that a little bit more about when they did that and why they would have done that.

00:12:54.500 But that change started happening somewhere mid-2018.

00:13:00.340 And from 2014 to 2018, they were pretty consistent.

00:13:04.600 They would, you know, after Joe Biden would meet with these people or Hunter would fly on Air Force 2 or Joe would talk to them on the phone or have lunch with them,

00:13:12.800 then money would flow through the shell companies.

00:13:17.480 And then they would disperse the money through the shell companies to 10 different Biden family members.

00:13:23.100 Once 2018 rolled in and they realized the IRS was rolling in on them and they knew this because the IRS was talking to them and the IRS puts the blower notes to confirm this,

00:13:33.580 they changed the way they were doing business.

00:13:35.760 Then they started taking money in, some of it directly through their personal accounts, some of it still through shell companies.

00:13:41.940 But they were calling them loans.

00:13:43.720 And the reason you do this is twofold.

00:13:45.580 Number one, you don't report a loan on your taxes.

00:13:48.740 So, theoretically, if you got a $5 million wire from China and you said it was a loan, you didn't have to put that on your taxes and the IRS would never know about it.

00:13:59.180 And secondly, and this is the most obvious, you don't have to pay taxes on it then if it's a loan.

00:14:06.360 And that's why I always said we're going to follow the bank records.

00:14:09.980 We're going to go with the bank statements in lieu of the tax returns because there's nowhere on your tax return does it show you have a loan.

00:14:18.020 There's a place on your tax return to show where you pay loan interest, mortgage interest, or if you loan someone money, you receive interest.

00:14:26.260 But there's nowhere on your tax returns would it say a loan.

00:14:29.180 So if you just got the Biden's tax returns, you would never know about $14 million that we found because they didn't report it to the IRS.

00:14:38.360 They called it loans.

00:14:39.940 So $14 million was the amount of loans you found so far?

00:14:43.760 Yes, for Jim and Hunter Biden.

00:14:45.700 And look, just to underscore what you said because it's important, by calling it a loan, number one, you don't have to report it to the IRS.

00:14:53.580 Number two, you don't have to pay taxes to the IRS.

00:14:57.180 But, of course, it's got to be a real loan.

00:14:58.980 It can't be just fraud.

00:15:01.260 And, all right, I've gotten loans over the course of my life.

00:15:05.560 I've got a mortgage on my house.

00:15:07.120 Now, the mortgage on my house, the collateral is my house.

00:15:11.640 I've gotten car notes.

00:15:13.120 I borrow money to buy a car.

00:15:14.820 The collateral on the car note is the car.

00:15:17.180 If I don't pay the payments, they take the car back.

00:15:20.720 Is there any indication that Hunter or Jim Biden had any collateral?

00:15:26.940 $14 million of loans.

00:15:28.620 Did they own $14 million of collateral that would serve as the basis for those loans?

00:15:34.240 Well, and I understand loans, thank God.

00:15:38.140 There's no loan documentation.

00:15:40.440 We've asked for loan documentation.

00:15:42.080 They won't produce loan documentation.

00:15:44.260 It doesn't appear they had anywhere near $14 million in assets.

00:15:48.180 So, if you get $14 million in loans, you really need to have about $18 or $19 million in assets because that's the way that the banking rules are.

00:15:57.560 You've got to have more than enough or you would be underwater.

00:16:02.460 But here's the most concerning thing.

00:16:04.720 Going through their bank records, they've received all this money that they call loans.

00:16:09.260 There are hardly any loan repayments, any principal payments, and no interest payments.

00:16:15.560 All right, so this goes back to 2018.

00:16:17.700 But very few principal payments.

00:16:18.960 2018, they start getting loans.

00:16:20.880 They get $14 million of loans.

00:16:23.140 You're saying from 2018 to 2023, that's five years.

00:16:27.220 There are very, very few loan repayments at all, either principal or interest.

00:16:31.580 In other words, this is some sort of magic loan that you don't need collateral for.

00:16:36.100 You don't have to pay back.

00:16:37.260 And it sure is helpful if you want to, say, buy a lot of crack and prostitutes if you don't have to pay the loan back. 0.98

00:16:44.920 Am I being fair in characterizing that?

00:16:49.280 That's exactly right.

00:16:50.440 It looked like one loan for half a million dollars to one of the Bidens, they may have paid $110,000 back with no interest.

00:16:58.360 The rest of the $14 million, we can't find where they've made a single payment and not a penny of interest.

00:17:04.620 By the way, do they dispute this?

00:17:07.460 Does Hunter claim, no, no, I paid that back?

00:17:10.420 Does Jim Biden claim, no, no, I paid that back?

00:17:12.360 Or do they dispute what you're saying?

00:17:14.740 Well, we're going to bring them in.

00:17:16.400 That's one reason we want to depose them. 0.94

00:17:18.820 But you can look at the bank records and there's no payments back.

00:17:25.300 Best case scenario, how much of the millions in loans, $18 million, do you think they paid back if you're being generous?

00:17:33.080 $14 million.

00:17:33.820 $14 million, I mean.

00:17:34.620 $110,000.

00:17:37.340 Wow.

00:17:38.880 It's, you know, good to be a Biden.

00:17:42.060 And look, at what point does a loan become income?

00:17:45.980 You know, I don't know.

00:17:47.180 That's a question for the IRS.

00:17:49.760 Look, if the intent is to defraud the IRS, if it is a fraudulent vehicle, the IRS can bring it for tax fraud.

00:17:55.700 You can't characterize something as a loan that is not, in fact, a loan that doesn't intend to be paid back.

00:18:01.680 And, I mean, that, on the face of it, I've got to tell you, I'd be ready to prosecute right now.

00:18:07.220 Of course, you know, I don't work at the Biden Justice Department.

00:18:09.720 And so my marching orders aren't protect the big guy.

00:18:12.780 And the statute of limitations is not far from running on these two.

00:18:17.900 They've already let the statute of limitations run on what Hunter did with China back in 17, and the clock is ticking now.

00:18:25.740 Now, we started with you telling us your investigators are going to talk with AmeriCorps Health Company about the $600,000 that was paid to Jim Biden.

00:18:35.560 And you said $200,000 went straight to Joe Biden.

00:18:39.040 Now, did that come from AmeriCorps, or did that come from AmeriCorps to Jim and then Jim to Joe?

00:18:43.800 What was the path of the money?

00:18:46.860 AmeriCorps to Jim and Jim to Joe.

00:18:49.520 So the big guy is getting his cut.

00:18:51.480 The same day, the same day, the same day.

00:18:53.520 So in Jim Biden's bank account, the day he deposited that $200,000 check, I think he had like $4,000 a ballot.

00:19:02.720 So he went from $4,000 to $204,000.

00:19:05.700 Then he writes a check for $200,000 to Joe Biden.

00:19:08.880 So he goes back down to $4,000.

00:19:10.620 That wasn't real hard to trace.

00:19:12.640 I would challenge anyone to debate me on tracing that check.

00:19:19.100 I have one other question on this money in general.

00:19:21.920 We talk about the loan payments, but can we talk about the total sum of money that was coming into the Biden-affiliated businesses?

00:19:31.320 There were much bigger business deals that were done.

00:19:34.740 And how hard is it to trace that money?

00:19:36.040 Yeah, but they're not businesses.

00:19:36.960 Call them shell corporations.

00:19:37.960 Yeah, shell corporations.

00:19:38.560 Because businesses do something.

00:19:39.620 Yeah.

00:19:40.400 These are just bank accounts to park money.

00:19:44.080 Right.

00:19:44.440 And a lot of these shells had multiple bank accounts.

00:19:47.440 That's what's taken so long to get the bank records in.

00:19:51.680 We find more bank accounts.

00:19:53.240 I mean, we're always finding more bank accounts and more accounts.

00:19:56.840 But, you know, we've identified $24 million that we don't think they can explain what they did.

00:20:05.360 There's more.

00:20:06.600 We know where it is.

00:20:07.660 But, you know, for time's sake, I mean, this is just the House Oversight Committee.

00:20:13.600 I mean, no one in the government has investigated this.

00:20:17.460 Anytime someone got close, like the Irish was the blowers, they were told to stand down, usually by Leslie Wolfe. 0.96

00:20:23.640 Can you explain what you mean by when they get close?

00:20:26.900 You just said every time they got close, they were told to stand down.

00:20:30.400 Leslie Wolfe.

00:20:31.020 Remind people of the pattern of how close they got to the Bidens and then how they were cut off.

00:20:37.660 And according to the Irish whistleblowers in their notes, and everything Shapley and Ziegler have said has turned out to be true.

00:20:44.420 We're seeing some of that in this recent indictment in California.

00:20:48.140 And Shapley and Ziegler are the two IRS whistleblowers.

00:20:50.940 They're career employees.

00:20:52.620 They're not partisan Republicans.

00:20:54.500 Indeed, you know, indeed, they're Democrats.

00:20:58.000 Democrats.

00:20:58.480 But they came forward because they were horrified by what they saw.

00:21:02.640 And tell us what they told us.

00:21:03.980 Well, they had they knew that there was money laundering.

00:21:08.560 They knew there was tax evasion.

00:21:10.040 They knew there was tax fraud.

00:21:12.960 And they had accumulated all this evidence.

00:21:18.460 Now they wanted to go in and and raid a storage unit.

00:21:22.820 They were told that there were documentation.

00:21:25.320 You know, there were documents in a storage unit.

00:21:27.020 And they said they also wanted to talk to Joe Biden.

00:21:32.040 Well, that was the worst thing they ever said, because when they mentioned Joe Biden, that's when they were told to stand out and they were taken off the case.

00:21:38.440 So the IRS rolled in on them.

00:21:40.460 We know from talking to people and Jim Jordan talking to people at the Department of Justice that there were different jurisdictions looking into different things the Bidens had.

00:21:51.140 Because when you get a suspicious activity report, the law is the Treasury notifies the the appropriate investigators, you know, whether it be the IRS or whether it be the Department of Justice.

00:22:03.420 So they had to be get notification of all this stuff going on.

00:22:07.740 And they were told to stand out.

00:22:09.200 We know from the from the FBI sources that Charles Grassley found that they got these credible document, this 1023 form that said Joe Biden had been involved in a bribery scheme.

00:22:23.540 And yet no one with the FBI would allow them to investigate this any further.

00:22:29.640 So let's turn to the president now, because and I want to go through some of the lies you go back.

00:22:36.140 And I think we should play that montage of Joe Biden when he was running for president and saying, I made no money.

00:22:44.980 I was never connected to my son or family businesses.

00:22:47.880 There was no connections to China that this you know, this is a lie.

00:22:51.920 Everybody's looked at it.

00:22:52.920 It's a lie.

00:22:53.540 Take a listen to this.

00:22:54.660 How many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings?

00:23:00.220 I've never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.

00:23:02.900 I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their businesses, period.

00:23:11.140 And what I will do is the same thing we did in our administration.

00:23:15.400 There will be an absolute wall between personal and private and the government.

00:23:21.020 Do you stand by your statement that you did not discuss any of your son's overseas business dealings?

00:23:26.140 Yes, I stand by that.

00:23:27.880 Congressman, you know that's a lie.

00:23:30.140 I know that's a lie.

00:23:30.860 The senator knows that's a lie.

00:23:31.800 But explain methodically for everyone watching and listening how we now have the facts to back up that he was lying to the American people every time he said that, every time the White House said it, every time every Democrat said it on his behalf, every surrogate on his campaign.

00:23:47.180 Well, when we began the investigation, the political narrative and the media narrative was that Joe Biden never met with or spoke to any of these mysterious people who were sending his family millions and millions of dollars.

00:24:00.040 Now we know through pictures, text messages, emails, WhatsApp messages, and depositions from Devin Archer that Joe Biden talked to all of them.

00:24:11.560 We also discovered the pseudonym emails where Joe Biden was using a pseudonym, a fake name, sending emails back and forth to Eric Sherwin, who was one of the main figures in this influence peddling scheme.

00:24:26.340 In fact, he was like, for all practical purposes, the bookkeeper or the chief financial officer.

00:24:31.960 Joe Biden also said he had a wall between the government and his son's family business dealings.

00:24:38.640 There was no wall.

00:24:39.720 He was communicating back and forth.

00:24:41.680 There are hundreds of pseudonym emails between Joe Biden and Eric Sherwin.

00:24:47.760 We believe there were.

00:24:50.260 And the White House said there wasn't.

00:24:51.960 The media said there wasn't.

00:24:53.640 The National Archives wouldn't turn him over.

00:24:55.740 And then, lo and behold, some of them pop up in this recent indictment in California.

00:25:01.280 Some of these pseudonym emails between Joe Biden and Sherwin were brought out as evidence.

00:25:08.040 So how many fake email accounts and how many burner phones have you all found for Joe Biden?

00:25:15.500 Well, I can't comment on the burner phone yet because we're still looking into that and triple checking some things.

00:25:22.060 But with respect to the email, he's had at least three that he communicated, three pseudonym emails that he used the government email for.

00:25:32.540 And then he had some other pseudonyms, we believe, with some personal emails and some personal communication where he was he was they used code names like the big guy and Celtic and things like that.

00:25:46.660 But clearly they were trying to hide something or they wouldn't have had been using the pseudonyms.

00:25:53.280 But the fact that, you know, I didn't think we would find government emails from Joe Biden to these people involved in the influence peddling scheme.

00:26:03.700 But lo and behold, there are hundreds of them.

00:26:05.500 They just used a pseudonym.

00:26:07.000 And one reason the House voted.

00:26:08.960 So and let me ask you, James, on on the fake emails, is it just a name?

00:26:15.300 If you had an email, Kentucky man, Kentucky man at gmail dot com, you know, someone might pick a name of something, you know, Ben Ferguson, Ole Miss tennis star.

00:26:26.600 Like, you know, maybe you pick that as an email.

00:26:29.280 Are they signed using fake names or are they signed Ben or James or dad?

00:26:36.340 How are they signed and how much on the face of it are the emails trying to obscure the identity of the sender?

00:26:44.000 Well, they're all trying to obscure the identity of the sender.

00:26:47.820 He signed different things.

00:26:51.680 But, you know, a lot of times the emails aren't aren't signed, but he's communicating back and forth.

00:26:56.900 And the most disturbing thing to everyone should be that Hunter was being copied, blind copied on some of these emails.

00:27:06.740 That where he was using pseudonyms pertaining to Ukraine at the same time he was going to Joe Biden was going to go over there and fire Victor Shokin, the prosecutor who was investigating Burisma.

00:27:18.920 So that is new news to me.

00:27:22.620 You just said that you had a burner email account.

00:27:25.640 The president is communicating with someone without their knowledge that Hunter Biden's being blind copied.

00:27:32.720 Right. Because you wouldn't know that email, which also goes back to a bigger lie.

00:27:37.000 They said that if he ever talked with his son about people around his business sphere, it was about the weather.

00:27:42.340 Right. Things it was it was not about business.

00:27:45.280 It was, you know, oh, we're just friendly.

00:27:47.960 These are direct communications.

00:27:49.360 Were the Ukraine emails talking about the weather?

00:27:51.780 Was it like it's going to be sunny on Tuesday?

00:27:54.580 No. And the emails weren't to Hunter.

00:27:56.760 It was discussing with various members of the staff about his speech, logistics and things like that.

00:28:04.960 And they were copying Hunter.

00:28:06.880 So these this wasn't from a burner account.

00:28:08.960 This was the government account.

00:28:10.800 Joe Biden was just using a pseudonym.

00:28:12.740 And the reason we know Hunter was copied on it is because that email popped up in the laptop.

00:28:18.100 So this is a government account.

00:28:20.820 But but Joe Biden is using just a fake name on a government account and is using that fake name to conduct government business and is secretly blind CCing Hunter.

00:28:33.740 He's sitting on the border, who's sitting on the border, who's sitting on the border, who's being paid eighty three thousand dollars a month, who has no skills, who doesn't speak Ukrainian, who knows nothing about oil and gas, but has access to daddy.

00:28:47.040 Is that all of that accurate?

00:28:48.660 That that's right.

00:28:50.320 And the reason we know we found that email, it was on the laptop.

00:28:55.280 Now, remember, when we started this investigation, the laptop was Russian disinformation.

00:28:59.600 But in Hunter Biden's last speech he gave when he defied the congressional subpoena, he referenced the laptop a lot.

00:29:08.280 So, you know, it's there's a lot of pieces you have to put together.

00:29:12.700 And it's very complicated.

00:29:14.200 It's very hard to explain.

00:29:15.660 This was by design.

00:29:16.960 This is an organized criminal entity.

00:29:20.840 There's no question about it.

00:29:22.320 They knew what they were doing.

00:29:23.540 The president's son is smarter than people think.

00:29:26.780 It just we see all the stuff about him on drugs and stuff.

00:29:30.220 This was very organized.

00:29:32.680 And the communications were many between Joe Biden and these various characters in these schemes.

00:29:42.160 But they tried to hide it through the pseudonyms.

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00:30:16.640 So how many phone calls do we know about between Joe Biden and various international business associates of Hunter?

00:30:23.860 And how many meetings do we know about between Joe Biden and various international associates of Hunter?

00:30:30.180 Well, Devin Archer, in his transcribed interview, testified that there were at least 20.

00:30:35.720 Now, at least 20 could be anywhere from 20 to 100.

00:30:40.020 But he said at least 20.

00:30:41.880 And now we know that Joe had lunch with some of these people.

00:30:46.420 We didn't know he had lunch with the Russian oligarch who had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars while Joe Biden was vice president.

00:30:55.300 The same Russian oligarch who, when Joe Biden became president, was the one oligarch he left off the sanctions list when Russia invaded Ukraine.

00:31:04.840 So, OK, just say that again, because I think it's important for our listeners and our viewers.

00:31:10.520 The Democrats, the Democrats, the White House, the corporate media, they all say there's no evidence of corruption, no evidence of corruption and no evidence of Joe Biden's corruption.

00:31:19.240 Just say what you just said again, because that is completely contrary to the talking points of the other side.

00:31:26.840 One of the things we found out when we interviewed Devin Archer was that Joe Biden actually had lunch with the female oligarch from Russia, the former mayor of Moscow's wife, the wealthiest lady in Russia.

00:31:46.200 She had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars while Joe Biden was vice president.

00:31:52.200 And we have no idea what the Bidens did to receive the three and a half million dollars.

00:31:57.160 That's one of the questions we would ask Hunter Biden in his deposition.

00:32:01.900 So we didn't know Joe Biden acted like he'd never met her.

00:32:05.120 But Archer said, yeah, they had they had a very long lunch or dinner, like like several hours.

00:32:11.540 Do we know where they had lunch or dinner? Do we know that?

00:32:13.600 I think it was Cafe Milano, but I'm not I'm not 100 percent certain.

00:32:18.840 And when Joe Biden became president and when Russia invaded Ukraine, he announced sanctions against all the oligarchs in Russia, except one.

00:32:30.940 The lady who had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars. 0.95

00:32:33.920 And in the updated because they've updated these sanctions throughout this war with Ukraine.

00:32:38.720 Have they ever then added her name to that list?

00:32:42.720 Because several times they've updated and added new people to that list.

00:32:45.800 Or has she been protected to date by the Biden crime family?

00:32:50.940 She's been protected to date.

00:32:52.420 So, look, there's an important thing to underscore.

00:32:54.680 And we've talked about this at length on verdict.

00:32:57.560 Bribery, as everyone knows who listens to this pod, requires a quid pro quo, Latin for this, for that.

00:33:05.040 And so you need the this, the payment, the benefit, and you need it in exchange for that.

00:33:11.240 And that is typically a government, either an affirmative failure or declining to do something that because of the payment.

00:33:20.460 In this instance, three and a half million dollars from a Russian oligarch to Hunter.

00:33:26.180 And again, and James, jump in if anything I'm saying is wrong, but but there's no indication Hunter did anything of value, has any expertise in anything related to Russia, has any services, has any skills, did anything that someone would pay three and a half million dollars for.

00:33:43.280 We do know that that along with the payment, this Russian oligarch has lunch or dinner with Joe Biden while he is vice president.

00:33:54.320 So that is direct access, direct access, direct conversation to Joe.

00:34:00.160 Hey, you know, I'm giving your son three and a half million dollars.

00:34:02.760 You know, we don't know he said that, but it'd be kind of weird in the conversation that if either she or Hunter didn't tell daddy, hey, this is the person that gave me three and a half million dollars, particularly if this is not proven, although we know the laptop makes reference with regard to China to 10 percent for the big guy.

00:34:23.100 And to the extent that there is a pattern of Joe profiting directly off of Hunter's revenue, he would have a real reason to care about the three and a half million.

00:34:33.340 But the thing that is new that is connected here is that when Joe becomes president and he puts in sanctions on Russian oligarchs, the one person that is miraculously left off is the oligarch that gave Hunter three and a half million dollars.

00:34:50.200 So that's a second example of a quo. We've talked quite a bit about the firing of Viktor Shokin.

00:34:56.320 Viktor Shokin was the Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating Burisma.

00:35:00.420 The oligarch that owned Burisma paid Hunter a million dollars a year and Joe Biden got him fired.

00:35:06.520 That's a quo that would would, I believe, support a bribery claim.

00:35:12.060 This is a second quo that could support a bribery claim, which is not listing someone for sanctions who otherwise should be listed and who would have been listed.

00:35:22.200 But for the payment to your family member, that qualifies as bribery as well.

00:35:27.680 And is what I'm saying accurate?

00:35:30.880 It's accurate. I wish you were on the oversight committee to help me with all this.

00:35:34.600 I have a question for both of you. And and I go back to when I was on the Bush campaign, even as someone younger, there was a very clear warning that was given to us and it was explicit.

00:35:47.800 Be careful who you meet with. Be careful about any meeting on the clock or off the clock with anybody that could be nefarious.

00:35:55.480 And I remember that meeting because it was such a important line here.

00:36:01.180 Is there any reason? And I want to know more about the background of this of this oligarch and this woman, richest woman in Russia connected directly to Vladimir Putin.

00:36:12.260 You don't get the job as the mayor of Moscow without Vladimir Putin's explicit picking you and consent and being in that world.

00:36:19.920 Would this be a meeting that our U.S. government would have warned against?

00:36:24.940 Like, you don't meet with this type of person. You certainly don't do business with this type of person.

00:36:30.200 You don't take three and a half million from this type of person.

00:36:32.820 I mean, would that not be some sort of conversation that would have happened?

00:36:36.060 Of course. Listen, this is friggin weird. This is weird.

00:36:40.500 This is not something that, oh, this is typical what people in government do.

00:36:44.980 You don't run around having dinner with Russian oligarchs.

00:36:48.560 That that is a strange thing to do. I don't know anyone else in government.

00:36:52.940 I don't know anyone else in the Senate. I don't know anyone else in the House who does that.

00:36:56.820 I don't know anyone else getting millions of dollars from foreign countries.

00:37:01.580 It's friggin weird. James, I'm going to go out on a limb.

00:37:04.900 Have you received millions of dollars from any foreign country?

00:37:08.820 No, but I keep expecting the Associated Press or Washington Post to write that.

00:37:13.080 But no, I have not.

00:37:14.120 Look, the closest I've come is I got changed once at a Chinese restaurant for dinner.

00:37:19.760 Yeah.

00:37:20.060 Like, that is nuts. 0.99

00:37:22.280 Who the hell? 0.96

00:37:23.880 But like, it is weird. 0.85

00:37:25.580 I mean, look, you know your 434 colleagues.

00:37:28.680 I know my 99 colleagues.

00:37:29.920 To the best of my knowledge, none of them, none other than Bob Menendez, who is under indictment.

00:37:36.620 So let me set him aside because he's under indictment for this.

00:37:41.080 That's actually a pretty powerful point.

00:37:43.020 The only person I know who did something like this is currently being prosecuted for receiving bribes because Bob Menendez, it is alleged, did government favors for Egypt, was paid tens of thousands of dollars, was paid in gold bars.

00:37:58.120 And they're trying to put him in jail.

00:38:01.000 Well, where is the indictment for Joe Biden?

00:38:04.120 Because it's Joe Biden that's performing the government favors.

00:38:08.400 And the closest analog I can find to someone who has done conduct similar to what Joe Biden did, although not as brazen, not as large scale, not as lucrative, not involving as many countries.

00:38:24.540 The closest analogy is Bob Menendez to Joe Biden.

00:38:28.060 And if they're indicting Bob Menendez, why on earth are they not indicting Joe?

00:38:33.040 And why are they not indicting Hunter for bribery?

00:38:35.880 I get the tax claims, but we've talked at length about this.

00:38:41.460 At the end of the day, this is not about Hunter Biden. 0.89

00:38:45.480 If his name was Hunter Smith and he was some corrupt, messed up guy with substance abuse problems, none of us would be talking about it.

00:38:54.000 He would be prosecuted, he'd face consequences, but it's not his life, it's not his personal demons that matter.

00:39:01.740 It is when you have the vice president of the United States and then the president of the United States selling official favors in a corrupt way to foreign oligarchs.

00:39:12.000 There is a reason the Constitution specifies bribery as a ground for impeachment.

00:39:19.920 I agree.

00:39:49.900 He failed to pay taxes on it.

00:39:50.640 He failed to pay taxes on the millions of dollars he got from Burisma that's listed on his W-2.

00:39:57.040 What he's never been pressed on are these millions of dollars in loans and all these fake write-offs that he had in these show companies.

00:40:07.860 I mean, he probably owes six or seven million more dollars that he hasn't been prosecuted on yet.

00:40:14.460 Because they've said it's a loan.

00:40:16.200 The only prosecution is the most obvious.

00:40:17.640 So, James, tell us about the fake write-offs because that's something that doesn't get discussed much.

00:40:23.560 Yeah.

00:40:23.840 Well, you know, so in these shell companies, so he would wire, you know, say he got a $5 million wire.

00:40:29.320 Then he would wire different, you know, maybe $5 million wires to five different shell companies.

00:40:36.340 And then he would take half that money and wire it to various Biden family members.

00:40:41.860 He'd keep the other half in the shell.

00:40:43.660 And he would pay for basic living expenses. 0.54

00:40:46.940 And he would pay for things like prostitutes and drugs.

00:40:49.940 And he would write them off as a business deduction.

00:40:53.780 So, at the end of the day, he didn't pay any taxes on his LRT.

00:40:56.020 Did you just say prostitutes and drugs were business deductions for Hunter Biden?

00:41:00.100 Yes.

00:41:00.380 That was part of the indictment in California.

00:41:03.700 That was one of the things.

00:41:04.380 He joined a sex club in California and paid for it out of a shell company that he claimed was his law firm, Owosco.

00:41:12.420 Now, think about this.

00:41:14.080 His law firm was paying his sex club membership.

00:41:18.180 And on his taxes, he put down that it was a golf country club membership so he could write it off.

00:41:24.720 You know, Ben, I feel bad when I was at a law firm.

00:41:26.760 They didn't even pay for my parking.

00:41:28.360 Yeah.

00:41:28.760 I apparently need to.

00:41:29.900 One hell of a bonus structure over there.

00:41:31.500 Need to negotiate fundamentally differently.

00:41:34.200 One hell of a write-off there.

00:41:36.780 Go back to Joe Biden for a second.

00:41:39.240 And I want to play for you another montage of Joe Biden consistently saying there's nothing, there's no there there.

00:41:47.460 There's nothing wrong here.

00:41:48.900 I wasn't involved.

00:41:50.560 And he also says the media has investigated this and no one's found any wrongdoing.

00:41:56.720 Here's the president in a montage in his own words.

00:41:59.000 Every single solitary, serious investigator, including your network and others, have looked at this, have said there's absolutely zero basis to the accusation that I acted anyway inappropriately or that my son did.

00:42:16.440 Every major national, international and local news operations looked into it has said it's a lie.

00:42:24.500 This is a president's flat line.

00:42:26.660 So there's not been a scintilla of evidence pointed out that anything is wrong.

00:42:29.380 There's not a single solitary scintilla of evidence anywhere.

00:42:32.920 There's not been one scintilla of evidence that my son ever interfered.

00:42:37.120 Did I ever ask me anything?

00:42:38.520 Did I ever got involved in anything?

00:42:40.900 I mean, come on.

00:42:41.940 This is so.

00:42:44.220 These guys are amazing.

00:42:46.440 So you think that everything that happened was kosher?

00:42:49.940 You know, there's not one single bit of evidence, not one little tiny bit, not one tiny bit of evidence.

00:42:57.220 Is the president a liar based on everything that you've seen?

00:43:01.420 And the idea that everybody's investigated this, they found nothing.

00:43:05.320 Now the news media is reporting on some of this.

00:43:07.560 So they're not even backing him up anymore.

00:43:09.460 So I got to say, you know, Joe Biden is particularly fond of saying there's not a scintilla of evidence.

00:43:15.360 And I couldn't help thinking of my favorite movie, The Princess Bride.

00:43:19.700 You keep on using that word.

00:43:21.340 I do not think it means what you think it means.

00:43:23.500 I'm not sure Joe knows what the word scintilla means.

00:43:26.840 So let me just ask you directly, James, what is the most compelling evidence that you are aware of right now of corruption by Joe Biden?

00:43:39.660 Well, the fact that we found five payments to Joe Biden, that we trace the source of the payment directly from his family's influence peddling scheme.

00:43:51.700 So when Joe Biden says that he's never benefited from his family's influence peddling scheme, that is a lie.

00:44:00.020 We have $250,000.

00:44:02.080 That's a quarter of a million dollars, which for the self-proclaimed poorest guy in Congress, that's a lot of money.

00:44:08.840 They pay $250,000 directly to Joe Biden's back pocket from his family's influence peddling schemes.

00:44:16.320 They want to say that it was a loan repayment, which that's a whole nother story.

00:44:20.060 If you pay me back $250,000, Senator, then somewhere before you pay me back, I should have a check to you for $250,000.

00:44:29.380 They don't have that.

00:44:30.320 But let's, you know, I don't want to get into the weeds on whether it's a loan or not.

00:44:33.320 All right, so the $250,000, give us the details of the $250,000.

00:44:35.520 When was it paid, from whom, and where does it look like the money came from?

00:44:40.920 $200,000 came from Jim Biden and Sarah Biden to Joe Biden.

00:44:46.500 That money came directly from that AmeriCorps health company.

00:44:50.100 That was an influence peddling scheme led by Jim Biden.

00:44:52.920 Then $40,000 went from Jim and Sarah Biden to Joe Biden that came from China.

00:45:02.260 That was the 10% of $400,000.

00:45:05.540 That was the company that Bobulinski said was going to be 10% held for the big guy.

00:45:10.620 They got $400,000 wire.

00:45:12.940 Hold on, I got to stop you there because that's, I'm following this pretty closely.

00:45:17.620 And that to me is something new.

00:45:19.600 So, so I'm aware of the 10% for the big guy that was in the information on Hunter's laptop.

00:45:26.620 What I was not aware of is that you now have a payment from China and direct evidence, by the way, not circumstantial, direct evidence of a 10% payment straight to Joe Biden.

00:45:41.000 Is that right?

00:45:41.900 Elaborate on that because the fact that the big guy is being paid 10%.

00:45:47.200 The exact amount, the exact 10% amount.

00:45:49.440 Not 11%, not 9%, 10% exactly what was reflected, what Bobulinski told us.

00:45:56.420 That's pretty compelling.

00:45:57.540 So just to explain that again, it's, it's important not to miss this point.

00:46:01.420 If you'll remember the WhatsApp message where Hunter Biden was shaking down the, the Chinese national saying,

00:46:07.520 we expect you to fulfill your commitment, we expect you to fulfill your commitment, a commitment that was made while Joe Biden was vice president.

00:46:12.700 He said, my dad's sitting here beside me and we're going to unleash our wrath on you if you don't.

00:46:18.700 Five days later, five business days later, $5 million pops into the Biden account.

00:46:25.600 They immediately wire $400,000 to this shell company that was supposed to be the company that, that Joe Biden was going to be 10% owner of, according to Bobulinski.

00:46:38.480 From that $400,000, they start wiring different wires to different Biden family members in different shells.

00:46:47.200 This is called money laundering and it's confusing to explain and that's by design.

00:46:51.200 But anyway, they wire money to Jim Biden from that $400,000 and he writes Joe a check for $40,000.

00:47:00.660 $40,000 is 10% of $400,000 in that particular shell that Joe Biden was supposed to have a 10% ownership in.

00:47:09.360 That money came directly from China.

00:47:11.840 That's very damning evident.

00:47:13.260 How close is the time period between the WhatsApp, the $5 million payment, the $400,000 payment and the $40,000 payment?

00:47:22.540 I mean, a month.

00:47:24.080 So this is all really closely compressed.

00:47:27.280 This is, this is.

00:47:27.840 And remember, you can, when you transfer money to an account, you have to keep it in there at least 24 hours.

00:47:35.700 So, so, you know, a lot of times you say, oh, there's two or three days difference.

00:47:40.080 Well, maybe the bank wouldn't make it available.

00:47:42.120 A lot of times when you deposit money in a bank, you'll say your funds may not be available for 24 hours or 48 hours or until next week.

00:47:52.400 So they got the money to Joe about as quick as you can do it in banking terms going through that many different accounts.

00:48:00.500 So then here's my question.

00:48:01.720 We've talked about the tax issues with, with Hunter Biden and, and James Biden.

00:48:07.860 I think there's some more questions there.

00:48:09.460 But if all of this is happening and money is running through to the president or then vice president, what are the liabilities that we don't know about?

00:48:19.920 And I'm talking from a tax standpoint for the president of the United States of America, because what we do know is there's money flowing in.

00:48:27.720 Then they claim its loans and there's claiming there's repayment of loans, but we don't see the reclaim it payments.

00:48:32.220 So is that a tax issue for the president?

00:48:35.080 Second one I have is this.

00:48:36.980 If the bank accounts, these shell companies were acting as piggy banks for Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family.

00:48:45.220 We've also heard there were payments being made for things that benefited the vice president and the president through things that were done at their house, his house, home improvements, remodeling.

00:48:57.920 What other benefits was President Joe Biden receiving through this money that wasn't directly coming to his bank account?

00:49:05.120 And would that be a tax issue in theory for the president of the United States of America?

00:49:08.760 I think so. So a lot of these shell companies had credit cards.

00:49:14.180 So we got the bank account and it'll say, all right, we spent $15,000 this month on our Citibank card or our Chase card or whatever.

00:49:24.500 We have to subpoena the credit card companies and start going down these bank statements.

00:49:29.220 I mean, this is stuff, this investigation is so big and so complex and so complicated.

00:49:35.620 I mean, we're moving as quickly as we can for a little old congressional staff.

00:49:40.360 This is stuff the IRS and the FBI and the Department of Justice are better suited to do, but we're doing the best we can.

00:49:46.580 So we know from the laptop there were things Hunter Biden was paying for a value for Joe, like a new roof and a cell phone bill and things like that.

00:49:55.460 But the $250,000. Hold on a second. Did you just say Hunter Biden paid for a new roof for Joe Biden?

00:50:02.340 According to the laptop, according to the laptop.

00:50:05.220 And remember, there's message from Hunter Biden to Hunter Biden's daughter saying, unlike dad, I won't make I won't make you have to turn over 50 percent of your salary to me.

00:50:17.520 So there's lots of references in the laptop where Hunter Biden was complaining about having to pay for stuff for dad, for Joe Biden.

00:50:24.680 And that's why we wanted to depose him. That's why we wanted to. That was one of the questions.

00:50:29.540 Let's go to the deposition. Were you surprised that Hunter defied the subpoena and refused to sit for the deposition?

00:50:36.540 I wasn't because I felt like that indictment was done to protect him from this deposition, because you've indicted.

00:50:46.740 Yes, you've indicted him for two things. The line on a gun application and his basic failure to pay taxes on his W-2 income.

00:50:56.680 All right. Those are the two things that you really can't tie to Joe Biden.

00:51:00.440 But the money laundering, you can tie to Joe Biden. The the the loans, the tax evasion on that, the securities fraud, even the even the the problems with prostitutes and possible human trafficking and all that.

00:51:14.700 You can tie that to Joe because some of that was at Joe's house.

00:51:17.960 Apparently, there's lots of things that hold on a second, James.

00:51:20.940 You said possible human trafficking. What what what is the evidence we have of that?

00:51:26.780 There's a suspicious activity report filed against an escort service in Florida.

00:51:33.340 And the suspicious activity report is on the escort service.

00:51:37.200 But Hunter Biden is a subject of that suspicious activity report because he was a big customer and sending money to and from the bank notified.

00:51:47.260 And this is public, not because of us. You're not supposed to leak these suspicious activity reports, but it's out there.

00:51:53.480 It's out there on the Internet. I think it was in that Marco Polo report.

00:51:57.840 But we know it's real. And what it what it said was the bank notified.

00:52:04.920 I think it was J.P. Morgan notified the Treasury that we believe this. 0.86

00:52:08.440 Our client is operating an escort service and the two prostitutes that they're paying are here illegally. 0.83

00:52:15.960 One from Russia, one from Ukraine. I mean, you can't make this stuff up.

00:52:20.660 And we don't know if they were human traffic. We don't know if all we know is they're not here legally. 0.91

00:52:26.600 And we're pretty sure they're engaged in prostitution, which is illegal in Florida. 0.82

00:52:32.400 And they list like two or three names of people that were spending a lot of money there.

00:52:38.700 And Hunter Biden was at the top of the list, which is another reason they filed the SAR, because they knew Russia and Ukraine, human trafficking.

00:52:46.400 And at the time he was living in Joe Biden's house, they were sending the prostitutes to him.

00:52:52.000 He wasn't going there. So they were sending them across state lines, which is, you know, you know, is there evidence that they were sending the prostitutes to Joe Biden's house?

00:53:01.420 All we know is Hunter was living there at the time.

00:53:06.140 We don't know if he was going to a hotel or whatever, but I'm just telling you what J.P. Morgan said.

00:53:11.740 OK, I mean, so let me ask you about more.

00:53:15.380 Let me ask you about the deposition. So hunters refuse to testify.

00:53:18.660 What happens next in the next week, two weeks, three weeks, four weeks?

00:53:23.460 What happens next? Well, we're going to have to issue contempt of Congress charges.

00:53:29.040 We'll run that through the Oversight Committee.

00:53:32.320 And now tell people how that works. What are the mechanics of what has to happen?

00:53:36.580 I was hoping Jim Jordan would lead that through the judiciary, but it looks like we're going to do it through the House Oversight Committee.

00:53:43.040 There's a lot of paperwork that's going to have to get done.

00:53:45.680 Remember, we've got a new speaker of the House, all new staff rolling in.

00:53:50.100 Now, he kept some of McCarthy's staff on until the end of the year.

00:53:53.980 We got new staff coming in.

00:53:55.780 So we're going to try to get all this accumulated as quickly as possible and then have a committee here and then hopefully mark it up on the floor.

00:54:03.020 But there's a lot of legwork that has to be done, a lot of documentation that has to be accumulated.

00:54:08.920 And we're doing this at a time when we're shifting a lot of people in the speaker's office.

00:54:14.700 And one thing, Senator, a lot of people don't realize, I have subpoena authority, but the speaker has to sign off on it.

00:54:21.100 That's something that Daryl Isis talked about and Trey Gowdy's talked about and Jason Chaffetz, former Republican chairs.

00:54:28.940 The speaker's general counsel has to sign off on it because if it goes to court, they're the ones that represent us in court.

00:54:38.480 It's the speaker's general counsel.

00:54:40.120 So there's, you know, there's some bureaucracy involved in these subpoenas.

00:54:44.160 There's some bureaucracy involved in the contempt of Congress.

00:54:47.280 But we plan on moving forward to that and we're working on it as we speak.

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00:55:21.600 So let me ask you something.

00:55:25.760 When you subpoenaed Hunter, he came back and said he was willing to testify, but only in an open hearing, not in a closed door deposition.

00:55:34.260 Tell us from your perspective what the advantages are of doing a closed door deposition first before open public testimony.

00:55:41.960 We have tens of thousands of pages of documents, bank statements, emails, sworn testimony.

00:55:48.760 We have hundreds and hundreds of questions, you know, probably close to a thousand questions.

00:55:54.480 In a deposition, you have one hour.

00:55:57.180 The Republicans have an hour, then the Democrats have an hour.

00:55:59.360 Then you come back and have another hour.

00:56:00.900 The Democrats have another hour.

00:56:02.240 So, you know, easily you can get an eight hour deposition in in a day, whereas we would have four hours.

00:56:08.660 The staff would generally be the ones that would which I have.

00:56:12.260 You know, my lead deposer was the lead deposer at the Department of Justice in the in the Trump administration under Bill Barr.

00:56:20.500 So we've got that, you know, really good people that are really good at this.

00:56:24.300 And judiciary does to Jim has good people.

00:56:27.340 They were both going to be in there.

00:56:29.280 We were going to ask them specific questions, hundreds of questions.

00:56:33.060 If you have a committee hearing where you have 25 Republicans and 21 Democrats going back and forth, yelling, the Democrats at the last year, and they filed three motions to adjourn during the committee hearing, trying to disrupt it.

00:56:47.020 You get five minutes each back and forth.

00:56:50.560 We might get 40, 45 questions in.

00:56:53.180 So it's a difference of 40 or 45 questions in a complete chaotic poop scene versus a sit down, substantive deposition where we could easily ask 800 questions.

00:57:07.560 This is too important.

00:57:09.200 This is an investigation of public corruption at the highest levels.

00:57:12.220 This has been a substantive, credible investigation that we've accumulated mountains of evidence through bank records and emails.

00:57:19.120 We have lots of questions.

00:57:20.880 You just can't get that in a public hearing.

00:57:22.520 But I want to have a public hearing with Hunter Biden, and we will have a hearing with Hunter Biden after he gets deposed.

00:57:29.780 For what it's worth, James, and this is something that I've talked about on Verdict recently.

00:57:34.660 Look, you're in the middle of the fight.

00:57:36.160 You're working your tail off with a lot of complicated stuff.

00:57:39.560 I understand everything you said there, and I agree there's a lot of force to the arguments you're putting forward.

00:57:45.800 To the extent I can share some unsolicited advice, which I did in our last podcast,

00:57:50.380 and, you know, I'm a lawyer and a senator, so I'm in the business of giving unsolicited advice.

00:57:56.460 But I would encourage y'all to go ahead and have him in a public hearing anyway,

00:58:02.300 and I understand why it would be better to depose him.

00:58:04.960 But from their perspective, they can litigate and fight this contempt for the rest of the year and run out the clock,

00:58:14.660 and that's what they want to do.

00:58:16.400 And I know you know this very directly, but just I want to remind our listeners,

00:58:21.240 this is ultimately about Joe Biden, not about Hunter Biden.

00:58:24.500 And although the questions won't be as detailed, there won't be as much time in a public hearing,

00:58:30.720 getting Hunter publicly, he claims he will do it.

00:58:34.700 And I would also encourage, and I don't know the House rules, the mechanics for doing this,

00:58:39.440 but to the extent you can, I would encourage you, if you do a public hearing with Hunter,

00:58:44.560 instead of doing five-minute rounds, do ten-minute rounds.

00:58:47.760 In the Senate and the Judiciary Committee, we often do seven-minute rounds or ten-minute rounds.

00:58:53.720 For a Supreme Court nominee, we do 30-minute rounds.

00:58:56.620 The difference as a cross-examiner of what you can get in a ten-minute round versus a five-minute round is night and day.

00:59:06.120 And so I would just, I think the value, if we could get Hunter to testify in January,

00:59:12.520 and if your team could work with your down-dias members to have,

00:59:19.280 all right, here are all the questions we need to get.

00:59:21.660 Can you take this module? You take this module.

00:59:24.420 So, you know, sometimes you and I both know there are hearings where you have members,

00:59:27.860 they all do their own thing, and they're all running around like crazy.

00:59:31.000 For something like this, to the extent the down-dias Republicans each can take a particular issue 0.72

00:59:37.460 and say, all right, I'm going to take my five or even better ten minutes and ask the questions,

00:59:43.860 would it be as good as a deposition? No.

00:59:47.040 But I think the value of doing that publicly, if Hunter would answer those questions,

00:59:52.900 the legal jeopardy for Joe would be massive from that,

00:59:57.740 and I think that outweighs the strategic benefit of waiting for the closed-door deposition.

01:00:02.940 So consider that. I don't need an answer from you now, but that, you know, look,

01:00:07.440 I've litigated a lot of cases, and that would be my pretty emphatic advice is that

01:00:13.020 don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, because getting Hunter on the record in public

01:00:19.800 on all the questions that we've been talking about, that is enormously valuable,

01:00:25.120 and I don't want to see the clock run out, particularly if, look,

01:00:29.060 you and I are both hoping there's a good election in November, but it could be a bad election.

01:00:34.500 And if in November the Speaker is Hakeem Jeffries, your committee's going away,

01:00:39.360 and they're in the deposition, they're in the public hearing, and it's all over.

01:00:44.320 So we can hope we have a good election, but I think it's wise to assume

01:00:50.000 that your clock may be at most 11 months.

01:00:55.540 I agree, or less.

01:00:57.260 Let me ask you this question, too, as we kind of put a wrap on this.

01:01:04.980 I want to play Hunter Biden, and I want to play what he said,

01:01:08.860 because I don't know if, you know, a lot of people thought the White House

01:01:11.880 was probably giving me advice.

01:01:13.340 I think there seems to be a little bit of a rift now between the White House.

01:01:16.460 We're seeing some leaks coming out.

01:01:17.900 They didn't like what Hunter Biden did at this press conference,

01:01:21.060 and that means he's kind of a rogue actor in this scenario right now.

01:01:25.360 I want to get your reaction to just his demeanor and what he said.

01:01:28.300 Take a look.

01:01:29.320 Let me state as clearly as I can.

01:01:32.740 My father was not financially involved in my business,

01:01:36.280 not as a practicing lawyer,

01:01:38.640 not as a board member of Burisma,

01:01:41.260 not in my partnership with a Chinese private businessman,

01:01:44.840 not in my investments at home nor abroad,

01:01:47.400 and certainly not as an artist.

01:01:53.060 During my battle with addiction,

01:01:55.320 my parents were there for me.

01:02:01.160 They literally saved my life.

01:02:04.600 They helped me in ways that I will never be able to repay.

01:02:08.260 And of course, they would never expect me to.

01:02:10.320 And in the depths of my addiction,

01:02:14.300 I was extremely irresponsible with my finances.

01:02:18.640 But to suggest that is grounds for an impeachment inquiry

01:02:21.660 is beyond the absurd. 0.72

01:02:24.060 It's shameless.

01:02:26.580 There is no evidence to support the allegations

01:02:29.080 that my father was financially involved in my business

01:02:31.880 because it did not happen.

01:02:34.960 James Comer,

01:02:40.240 Jim Jordan,

01:02:42.320 Jason Smith,

01:02:43.720 and their colleagues

01:02:44.920 have distorted the facts

01:02:46.840 by cherry-picking lines from a bank statement,

01:02:51.400 manipulating texts I sent,

01:02:53.760 editing the testimony of my friends

01:02:55.680 and former business partners,

01:02:57.980 and misstating personal information

01:03:00.000 that was stolen from me.

01:03:02.060 He accuses you of manipulating text messages

01:03:04.720 without any evidence

01:03:06.040 and says that you guys are cherry-picking lines.

01:03:09.520 I've got to get your response to that.

01:03:12.260 I've never seen such a display

01:03:14.080 of arrogance and entitlement in my life.

01:03:16.900 But I'm not surprised because,

01:03:18.820 look, he's gotten away with this for years

01:03:20.640 because he's a Biden.

01:03:21.660 The rules don't apply to the Bidens.

01:03:23.280 But I don't know how you manipulate a text.

01:03:26.840 Was his father beside him

01:03:28.440 when he was extorting that Chinese national or not?

01:03:31.400 That's a simple question

01:03:32.560 the media should have asked then and there.

01:03:34.960 And they stopped the GPS, right?

01:03:37.080 They stopped the GPS.

01:03:38.420 You and I have talked about this here.

01:03:39.960 We could have answered that question.

01:03:41.300 Okay, and it's important.

01:03:42.640 Look, there's a reason people hate lawyers.

01:03:45.600 I listen to that as a lawyer.

01:03:48.960 When they say manipulating a text,

01:03:51.460 what they mean is one of the copies

01:03:55.020 that was released of the WhatsApp text

01:03:57.340 from one of the House members,

01:03:59.680 they put a Chinese flag

01:04:01.360 next to the Chinese person speaking

01:04:03.880 to identify them.

01:04:05.040 So they're like, aha, you manipulated it

01:04:06.800 because in the real one,

01:04:07.660 there's not a Chinese flag.

01:04:09.240 So it's true for purposes of display,

01:04:11.740 they added a Chinese flag

01:04:13.460 to demonstrate that that was a Chinese person.

01:04:16.240 When they say manipulated,

01:04:17.980 what they don't mean,

01:04:19.180 what Hunter has never said,

01:04:20.400 what his lawyers have never said,

01:04:21.980 is that one word of that text is inaccurate.

01:04:24.960 What they have never said is,

01:04:27.100 I did not send that.

01:04:28.200 And we talked about on verdict.

01:04:29.900 One possible defense he could have is,

01:04:31.920 nope, that text is fake.

01:04:34.060 I never sent it.

01:04:34.820 Now that's a defense you can make,

01:04:36.260 but then you got to prove it.

01:04:37.740 The fact that they haven't said that,

01:04:40.040 much like Sherlock Holmes

01:04:42.100 and the dog that didn't bark,

01:04:44.880 the fact that they didn't say that

01:04:47.060 tells you that they are implicitly admitting

01:04:50.860 it is accurate.

01:04:53.000 We also know that DOJ prevented

01:04:56.060 any search of GPS data.

01:04:58.720 It would be very easy to determine

01:05:00.140 where was Hunter's cell phone

01:05:01.980 at the moment that text was being sent?

01:05:04.040 Where was Joe's cell phone?

01:05:05.600 Were they in the same room?

01:05:06.820 Were they sitting next to each other?

01:05:08.820 The Biden Department of Justice

01:05:10.380 does not want anyone to know the answer to that.

01:05:13.440 And so they blocked that.

01:05:14.720 But by the way,

01:05:15.460 that text is direct evidence.

01:05:18.020 So next time you hear a Democrat

01:05:20.380 or there's shills in the media saying

01:05:22.180 there's no direct evidence

01:05:23.800 of Joe Biden's involvement.

01:05:25.620 Understand that WhatsApp text

01:05:27.700 is direct evidence.

01:05:28.600 It's not circumstantial.

01:05:30.240 It is written testimony from Hunter

01:05:32.960 about Joe's involvement in the shakedown.

01:05:36.020 And I got to say, by the way,

01:05:37.520 Ben, I noticed something.

01:05:39.040 So, James, in our last podcast,

01:05:41.600 we held the New York Times to task

01:05:44.380 because they took Hunter Biden's quote

01:05:47.800 at the press conference

01:05:48.760 that my father was not financially involved

01:05:52.820 with my business.

01:05:54.680 And they misquoted it to say

01:05:57.180 my father was not involved in my business.

01:06:01.060 They deleted the word financially.

01:06:03.240 And that was, I believe,

01:06:04.580 a very deliberate deletion.

01:06:06.480 Absolutely.

01:06:07.440 Well, what's interesting,

01:06:08.620 I just discovered something again.

01:06:10.340 Let me ask the team,

01:06:12.500 put up the very last shot

01:06:14.100 from the Hunter Biden video

01:06:15.320 that we were watching,

01:06:16.200 if we can put it on the screen.

01:06:18.120 Now, if you notice, 0.91

01:06:19.940 CNN did the same damn thing. 0.98

01:06:21.680 Yeah. 0.98

01:06:21.920 Look at the chyron on the bottom.

01:06:23.720 Hunter Biden,

01:06:24.700 my father was not involved

01:06:26.840 in any of my businesses.

01:06:27.980 What he said was,

01:06:29.300 my father was not financially involved

01:06:32.500 in any of my businesses.

01:06:34.260 CNN and New York Times

01:06:35.620 both deleted the same word.

01:06:37.940 By the way,

01:06:38.760 they know how to quote what he said.

01:06:40.200 Often a chyron will be Hunter Biden.

01:06:42.320 Quote, quote, yeah.

01:06:43.280 My father was not financially involved

01:06:45.420 in any of my businesses.

01:06:46.740 But understand,

01:06:48.140 CNN is on Team Biden.

01:06:50.020 They're on Team Hunter.

01:06:51.180 They're on Team Joe.

01:06:52.840 And it reminds me

01:06:53.960 of the famous CNN chyron

01:06:55.620 of the reporter

01:06:57.240 saying fiery but peaceful protest

01:07:01.420 as a building is on fire

01:07:03.160 with a Black Lives Matter 0.95

01:07:04.540 and Antifa protest going on.

01:07:06.640 CNN is happily editing out

01:07:08.660 Hunter's comments

01:07:09.880 to benefit the White House.

01:07:11.660 James, let me ask you

01:07:13.360 one other question about this

01:07:14.740 that I think is also very important.

01:07:16.700 And that is to remind people

01:07:18.920 financially now,

01:07:21.360 how many countries

01:07:22.860 was the Biden crime family

01:07:24.560 getting money from?

01:07:25.660 We haven't even mentioned

01:07:26.620 in the last hour Romania.

01:07:29.720 That's a country

01:07:30.440 that has to be brought up.

01:07:31.500 But you guys are finding

01:07:33.420 more money in more places

01:07:34.920 with more people.

01:07:35.920 And even Hunter Biden there

01:07:37.620 and what he said,

01:07:38.560 he said,

01:07:39.060 with my foreign business dealings,

01:07:41.360 plural,

01:07:42.020 he was admitting,

01:07:43.060 yeah, I'm getting money

01:07:43.800 from everywhere in the world.

01:07:45.760 Yeah.

01:07:46.660 We know he got money

01:07:47.800 from China,

01:07:49.000 Romania,

01:07:50.540 Ukraine,

01:07:52.280 Russia,

01:07:53.740 Uzbekistan.

01:07:54.440 We know that he was paid

01:07:57.420 through China

01:07:58.120 for stuff he did

01:07:59.260 in the Congo.

01:08:01.180 We know that Jim Biden

01:08:02.620 operated primarily

01:08:04.060 in the Middle East.

01:08:05.840 So pretty much

01:08:06.760 every bad country

01:08:07.900 in the world

01:08:08.540 is where the Bidens

01:08:10.200 would target

01:08:10.940 their influence peddling schemes.

01:08:12.380 Do you expect

01:08:12.860 to get anything new

01:08:13.960 about James Biden's money?

01:08:16.080 I mean,

01:08:16.200 we obviously know

01:08:17.000 a lot about Hunter's,

01:08:18.260 but are you guys

01:08:19.240 finding more and more

01:08:20.060 of James?

01:08:20.660 Because before Hunter Biden

01:08:22.520 was of age,

01:08:23.820 James was the bag man.

01:08:25.840 And then it kind of

01:08:26.880 turned into,

01:08:27.440 oh, hey,

01:08:27.880 we've got a kid here

01:08:28.820 that we can get

01:08:29.420 to be the bag man

01:08:30.120 and we have an excuse

01:08:31.100 for his actions

01:08:31.760 that he's a drug addict,

01:08:33.040 which is exactly

01:08:34.040 what Hunter Biden

01:08:34.820 said in that video.

01:08:35.520 I was in the depths

01:08:36.320 of addiction.

01:08:36.920 You should feel sorry for me.

01:08:38.500 I just needed money

01:08:39.400 from anybody.

01:08:40.700 James Biden

01:08:41.540 seems to be smarter

01:08:42.900 and have done this

01:08:43.840 for decades

01:08:44.700 while Hunter's

01:08:46.460 kind of the pupil

01:08:47.360 under him.

01:08:48.780 Yeah.

01:08:49.120 We have a lot of questions

01:08:50.440 for James Biden.

01:08:51.880 And again,

01:08:52.360 the reason no one

01:08:53.720 knows much about him

01:08:54.700 is he didn't leave

01:08:55.440 a laptop lying around.

01:08:57.660 But having looked

01:08:58.740 at his bank records

01:08:59.800 from his LLC

01:09:02.460 and from his personal

01:09:03.960 bank records,

01:09:04.940 I have a lot of questions

01:09:07.020 for James Biden.

01:09:08.020 So does it appear

01:09:08.900 that James,

01:09:11.060 Joe's brother,

01:09:12.420 was as involved

01:09:13.980 in this family business

01:09:15.120 as Hunter was?

01:09:16.040 Or would you say

01:09:16.860 they're equally complicit?

01:09:19.260 I wouldn't say

01:09:19.940 he's as involved,

01:09:21.200 but a lot of transactions

01:09:23.200 in and out

01:09:24.920 of James Biden's

01:09:26.180 LLC

01:09:27.240 were with

01:09:28.700 the Biden

01:09:29.360 shell companies.

01:09:30.900 And then obviously

01:09:31.620 the $240,000

01:09:33.580 that came from

01:09:34.640 Hunter's shell companies

01:09:35.640 went through

01:09:36.940 James Biden's

01:09:38.800 personal account

01:09:39.880 and had him

01:09:42.180 write the money

01:09:42.940 to Joe Biden.

01:09:44.520 I think at the end

01:09:46.080 of the day

01:09:46.380 when Joe Biden

01:09:47.080 was saying,

01:09:47.760 oh, there's not

01:09:48.400 a shred of evidence,

01:09:49.280 not a shred of evidence,

01:09:50.660 they thought that

01:09:51.440 we would try to

01:09:52.200 get their taxes.

01:09:53.780 And I never wanted

01:09:54.620 their taxes.

01:09:55.240 I wanted their bank records.

01:09:56.700 I've looked at enough

01:09:57.580 tax returns

01:09:58.360 as a director of a bank.

01:09:59.680 You want to look

01:10:00.540 at the bank statements.

01:10:01.660 Bank statements

01:10:02.280 don't lie.

01:10:03.640 And you would have

01:10:04.520 never seen that money

01:10:05.700 to Joe.

01:10:06.740 You would never see

01:10:07.640 any of these

01:10:08.240 millions of dollars

01:10:09.620 they're labeling as loans

01:10:10.880 if you had just

01:10:12.100 subpoenaed the tax records.

01:10:13.880 You had to get

01:10:14.740 their bank statements.

01:10:15.540 And to be clear,

01:10:16.940 the $200,000 payment

01:10:18.620 that went from

01:10:21.120 Jim to Joe

01:10:23.380 that they claim

01:10:24.680 was a loan repayment,

01:10:26.240 there is zero evidence

01:10:27.540 or to use Joe's phrase,

01:10:29.040 not a scintilla of evidence

01:10:30.560 that that was actually a loan

01:10:32.720 that had ever gone

01:10:34.240 from Joe to Jim

01:10:35.160 in the first place.

01:10:35.940 In other words,

01:10:36.320 there has to be a loan

01:10:37.240 in order for a loan

01:10:38.320 to be repaid.

01:10:39.180 Is there any evidence

01:10:40.320 at all that that loan existed?

01:10:43.540 No.

01:10:44.200 It's not hard

01:10:44.860 to prove a loan.

01:10:46.220 If you pay me back

01:10:47.840 $100,000,

01:10:49.240 then I should have

01:10:50.580 a check to you

01:10:51.400 for $100,000

01:10:52.860 at some point

01:10:53.700 before you paid me back

01:10:54.900 $100,000.

01:10:55.680 That's pretty simple

01:10:56.680 and I think every American,

01:10:58.140 even the financially

01:10:59.060 illiterate ones,

01:10:59.980 understand that.

01:11:01.040 All right.

01:11:01.460 Two more questions

01:11:02.200 I want to get to.

01:11:03.680 What do you make

01:11:04.620 of the fact

01:11:05.160 that the countries

01:11:05.960 that are doing business

01:11:07.260 with Hunter

01:11:07.780 and Jim Biden

01:11:09.180 are all countries

01:11:11.100 that are shady, 0.94

01:11:11.900 that have corrupt oligarchs,

01:11:13.280 that are to various degrees

01:11:15.320 enemies of America,

01:11:16.380 that they don't do business

01:11:18.420 with any of our close allies.

01:11:19.800 You don't see them

01:11:20.420 doing business with England.

01:11:21.480 You don't see them

01:11:21.940 doing business with France

01:11:23.120 or Germany.

01:11:24.220 You don't see them

01:11:24.960 doing business with Japan.

01:11:26.560 You don't see them

01:11:27.220 doing business with Canada.

01:11:28.520 I mean,

01:11:28.660 there are lots of countries

01:11:30.120 where people can do business

01:11:31.500 with them

01:11:31.980 where it's not necessarily shady.

01:11:34.380 You go out of your way

01:11:35.520 to find places

01:11:36.300 like Russia and China

01:11:37.420 that says something.

01:11:39.440 What do you make of that?

01:11:41.140 I think that was

01:11:42.080 their business model.

01:11:43.420 We know they sold

01:11:44.760 the Biden brand,

01:11:45.800 but where did you sell

01:11:46.520 the Biden brand?

01:11:47.060 You sold the Biden brand

01:11:48.200 in shady countries.

01:11:51.240 You revolved the business model

01:11:53.440 around people

01:11:54.520 who were in trouble.

01:11:56.380 Burisma,

01:11:57.480 the Romanian foreign national,

01:11:59.920 the Russian oligarch.

01:12:01.780 China was always in trouble 1.00

01:12:03.280 because no one

01:12:04.180 wants them in the United States.

01:12:05.460 We don't want China 1.00

01:12:06.120 buying farmland.

01:12:07.020 We don't want China 1.00

01:12:07.780 buying our energy company.

01:12:09.820 But they used the Biden

01:12:11.520 to try to get their foot

01:12:12.540 in the door.

01:12:13.300 Everywhere they operated,

01:12:15.700 we're in countries

01:12:17.080 where we have problems

01:12:19.080 with bad people

01:12:20.780 from bad countries.

01:12:22.200 All right.

01:12:22.400 Last question.

01:12:24.280 Something Hunter mentions

01:12:25.640 at the end

01:12:26.460 of that press conference

01:12:27.500 that's kind of gratuitously

01:12:28.820 tossed on there.

01:12:30.480 He says,

01:12:31.040 Dad wasn't involved

01:12:32.160 in Burisma,

01:12:33.200 in my legal practice,

01:12:35.140 such as it was,

01:12:36.140 in my businesses.

01:12:37.520 And then he says,

01:12:38.540 or with me

01:12:40.140 as an artist.

01:12:41.220 And it kind of pops

01:12:42.320 out of nowhere there.

01:12:44.180 What do you make

01:12:45.260 of that?

01:12:46.020 And what is your take

01:12:47.640 on, quote,

01:12:48.740 Hunter as an artist?

01:12:50.940 Well,

01:12:51.880 Hunter was never

01:12:52.620 an artist

01:12:53.000 until Joe became president.

01:12:54.980 And it looks like

01:12:55.960 their business model

01:12:58.040 changed

01:12:58.740 from 2014

01:12:59.940 to 2018.

01:13:02.240 They were taking wires

01:13:03.800 directly through

01:13:04.380 those shell companies.

01:13:05.120 Then the IRS

01:13:05.740 rolls in on them.

01:13:06.740 Then they start

01:13:07.460 trying to say

01:13:08.080 this money

01:13:08.620 they were taking

01:13:09.220 in from influence

01:13:10.000 peddling

01:13:10.340 were loans.

01:13:12.000 Then once Joe

01:13:12.840 became president,

01:13:14.900 they stopped

01:13:15.780 all of that

01:13:16.460 and Hunter

01:13:17.420 started selling art.

01:13:19.040 So I believe

01:13:20.280 the influence

01:13:20.840 peddling

01:13:21.320 may still be going on.

01:13:23.360 It's going on

01:13:24.160 through the art sales.

01:13:25.120 We need to know

01:13:25.960 who's purchasing

01:13:27.060 this artwork.

01:13:28.820 That's why...

01:13:29.720 Do we know that?

01:13:30.400 Do we know

01:13:31.040 who's purchasing

01:13:31.680 the artwork

01:13:32.040 and how much

01:13:32.640 they're paying?

01:13:33.180 We think we know

01:13:35.000 of two people

01:13:35.840 and they're part

01:13:36.660 of the people

01:13:37.080 we're trying to bring

01:13:37.860 in to ask questions

01:13:39.680 or to depose.

01:13:40.960 So that's something

01:13:42.660 every American

01:13:43.440 should want to know.

01:13:44.300 Who's buying

01:13:44.760 this artwork?

01:13:45.320 So even with

01:13:46.000 the investigation

01:13:46.480 going on,

01:13:47.280 and this is just

01:13:48.400 to make it clear

01:13:49.520 to the American people

01:13:50.200 where we are now,

01:13:51.220 there's no reason

01:13:52.060 to believe

01:13:52.600 that the Biden

01:13:53.340 said,

01:13:53.700 okay,

01:13:53.940 they're on to us.

01:13:54.740 Let's shut it down.

01:13:55.540 They just said,

01:13:56.020 okay,

01:13:56.180 they're on to us.

01:13:57.220 Let's change the way

01:13:58.300 that we're operating

01:13:59.200 our business.

01:14:00.500 We found out,

01:14:01.240 for example,

01:14:01.680 that the first

01:14:02.400 American hostage

01:14:03.300 that was released

01:14:03.920 from Hamas

01:14:04.620 had a family member

01:14:06.140 who had bought

01:14:06.720 artwork from Hunter Biden.

01:14:09.180 It's another example

01:14:10.460 of still now,

01:14:12.000 this is going on

01:14:13.100 in real time.

01:14:13.900 So do we have evidence,

01:14:15.360 do we know

01:14:16.160 how many paintings

01:14:18.220 Hunter has sold,

01:14:20.120 to whom,

01:14:21.680 and for how much?

01:14:22.560 Those are basic questions.

01:14:24.440 Since Joe became president,

01:14:25.760 do we know

01:14:26.760 whether he's sold

01:14:28.060 one painting,

01:14:29.520 50 paintings,

01:14:30.440 or 100 paintings?

01:14:31.680 We know he sold

01:14:32.700 several.

01:14:33.460 They bragged about it.

01:14:34.560 The art director,

01:14:35.780 George Burgess,

01:14:37.100 he's one of the people

01:14:38.100 we expect to depose

01:14:39.500 hopefully in January.

01:14:40.740 We'll ask those questions.

01:14:42.140 And is any of

01:14:42.740 Hunter Biden's art

01:14:43.680 ever hung

01:14:44.520 in any government

01:14:45.880 buildings

01:14:46.500 or the White House

01:14:47.320 that would,

01:14:47.820 in theory,

01:14:48.400 raise the price

01:14:50.040 of that artwork,

01:14:50.860 the value of that artwork?

01:14:52.060 Because we know

01:14:52.820 that artwork

01:14:53.600 where it hangs

01:14:54.700 can increase

01:14:55.380 the value significantly.

01:14:57.240 I don't know that.

01:14:58.060 That'll be a great question

01:14:59.040 we can ask George Burgess.

01:15:00.500 But the point you made

01:15:01.880 that there's no evidence

01:15:04.120 Hunter was an artist

01:15:05.160 until Daddy became president

01:15:07.520 is rather amazing.

01:15:11.460 Every artist I've ever known,

01:15:12.720 they've been an artist

01:15:13.280 their whole life.

01:15:13.960 They've been painting,

01:15:14.760 usually people have been painting

01:15:15.860 since they were kids.

01:15:17.380 If you want to be

01:15:18.240 a commercial artist,

01:15:19.180 most people don't start off

01:15:20.720 saying,

01:15:21.560 I'm going to paint something

01:15:22.200 and sell it

01:15:22.660 for half a million dollars.

01:15:24.740 Is the Biden family

01:15:26.720 blocking your committee

01:15:28.280 getting the information

01:15:29.380 on how many paintings

01:15:30.220 have been sold

01:15:30.740 to whom

01:15:31.180 and for how much?

01:15:32.480 Well, somebody's blocking it.

01:15:34.500 Again, that's the question

01:15:36.160 we're going to ask

01:15:36.900 the art gallery owner

01:15:38.060 and we're going to ask

01:15:39.240 Kevin Morris,

01:15:40.000 who's the Hollywood attorney

01:15:41.180 and we believe

01:15:41.840 he has a lot of

01:15:42.940 inside knowledge

01:15:44.700 over this artwork

01:15:45.560 and who's purchasing

01:15:46.740 the artwork.

01:15:47.440 This would be

01:15:47.800 the Hollywood attorney

01:15:48.660 that paid off

01:15:49.460 Hunter's back taxes?

01:15:50.340 Yeah, the media reports

01:15:53.180 that he's paid

01:15:54.760 Hunter two and a half

01:15:56.960 million dollars,

01:15:57.760 but it's five million dollars.

01:15:59.760 It's five million dollars

01:16:01.040 from this Hollywood attorney

01:16:02.200 he never met

01:16:03.200 until Joe was the nominee

01:16:05.620 to be president.

01:16:07.560 He never met the guy?

01:16:09.360 Never met the guy.

01:16:11.020 We had the picture

01:16:12.320 when the first time they met,

01:16:13.980 it was at a political fundraiser.

01:16:16.200 So this guy

01:16:17.320 he didn't grow up with,

01:16:18.280 wasn't friends with

01:16:19.060 like Devin Archer,

01:16:20.340 Bob Lynch

01:16:21.040 or any of these guys.

01:16:21.960 And he met this guy

01:16:23.280 and now this guy

01:16:23.980 has loaned him

01:16:25.280 five million dollars

01:16:26.540 at least.

01:16:27.740 Don't have to put that

01:16:28.380 in your taxes.

01:16:29.040 I guess that's the perk, right?

01:16:30.040 I tell you,

01:16:30.540 this is,

01:16:32.060 James, thank you.

01:16:32.920 This has been very helpful

01:16:34.100 and I want us to close.

01:16:37.300 We've heard mountains

01:16:38.540 and mountains

01:16:39.260 of evidence of corruption.

01:16:40.880 Mountains of evidence

01:16:41.540 of corruption

01:16:42.180 of Hunter Biden.

01:16:43.860 Mountains of evidence

01:16:44.440 of corruption

01:16:45.060 of Jim Biden.

01:16:46.100 Mountains of evidence

01:16:46.760 of corruption

01:16:47.380 of Joe Biden.

01:16:48.700 And I want us to close

01:16:49.700 with Corrine Jean-Pierre

01:16:50.980 claiming there is no evidence.

01:16:53.680 So just give a listen

01:16:54.560 to what the White House

01:16:55.440 is saying

01:16:56.560 and then we're going to look

01:16:57.720 at the newspaper headlines

01:16:59.420 that have followed.

01:17:00.580 What we're seeing

01:17:01.580 from House Republicans

01:17:02.460 is a waste of time

01:17:03.360 and it is certainly

01:17:04.680 a baseless political stunt.

01:17:07.920 That's what we're seeing.

01:17:09.320 And they're leaving,

01:17:10.000 House Republicans

01:17:10.520 are leaving this week

01:17:11.820 to go enjoy

01:17:14.260 a nice holiday,

01:17:15.180 as most Americans should.

01:17:18.080 But what happened

01:17:19.380 to the funding to Ukraine?

01:17:20.420 Just ask me about Ukraine.

01:17:21.740 They haven't been able

01:17:22.360 to get that done.

01:17:23.340 They haven't been able

01:17:24.040 to help us fix

01:17:25.640 what's going on

01:17:26.280 at the border.

01:17:27.040 They haven't been able

01:17:27.700 to get that done.

01:17:28.640 They haven't been able

01:17:29.360 to start a conversation

01:17:30.340 on how we're going

01:17:31.060 to avert a shutdown

01:17:32.720 in January.

01:17:33.580 They haven't been able

01:17:34.260 to do that.

01:17:35.280 And so, look,

01:17:36.340 there's been zero evidence.

01:17:38.280 Zero evidence.

01:17:39.140 You can ask me

01:17:39.900 about engagement

01:17:40.640 and what the president

01:17:41.520 has done with his family

01:17:42.720 in conversation,

01:17:43.680 but there's no evidence.

01:17:45.580 Wait, wait,

01:17:46.400 but there's no evidence.

01:17:47.820 There is no evidence

01:17:48.800 that the president

01:17:49.420 has done wrongdoing.

01:17:51.100 There's none.

01:17:52.120 Absolutely none.

01:17:53.940 None.

01:17:55.140 And that is just a fact.

01:17:56.600 You've heard it

01:17:57.060 from Republicans themselves.

01:17:58.720 So they're wasting

01:17:59.800 their time.

01:18:01.200 Instead of doing the work

01:18:02.520 on behalf

01:18:03.860 of the American people,

01:18:05.320 they go after

01:18:06.340 the president's family.

01:18:07.900 But that's a waste of time.

01:18:10.000 Every time she says

01:18:11.360 no evidence,

01:18:11.960 no evidence,

01:18:12.460 no evidence,

01:18:13.000 it's a lie,

01:18:13.960 but here,

01:18:14.380 take a look at how

01:18:15.060 Reuters reported

01:18:15.860 the House vote

01:18:16.520 on impeachment.

01:18:18.560 Biden impeachment inquiry

01:18:19.860 authorized by

01:18:20.700 House Republicans,

01:18:22.020 comma,

01:18:22.800 despite lack of evidence.

01:18:24.760 Mind you,

01:18:25.040 this is news.

01:18:26.320 Next headline.

01:18:28.600 New York Times

01:18:29.400 House approves

01:18:31.140 Biden impeachment inquiry

01:18:32.280 as GOP hunts

01:18:33.360 for an offense.

01:18:34.980 Republicans are pushing

01:18:35.740 forward with a

01:18:36.360 former investigation,

01:18:37.760 even though their

01:18:38.520 year-long scrutiny

01:18:39.360 of the president

01:18:39.960 and his family

01:18:40.560 has turned up

01:18:41.680 no evidence

01:18:43.320 of high crimes

01:18:44.300 or misdemeanors.

01:18:45.000 That is complete BS.

01:18:47.080 By the way,

01:18:47.620 Washington Post,

01:18:48.380 still lacking evidence.

01:18:51.160 House GOP votes

01:18:52.180 to formalize

01:18:52.860 Biden impeachment inquiry.

01:18:54.580 Lawmakers have said

01:18:55.400 the step will put them

01:18:56.180 on a stronger legal footing

01:18:57.260 for any court challenges

01:18:58.440 related to their investigations.

01:19:00.740 understand Reuters,

01:19:02.840 the New York Times,

01:19:04.080 the Washington Post,

01:19:05.340 and Corrine Jean-Pierre

01:19:06.380 on behalf of the president

01:19:07.720 are lying.

01:19:09.300 And James,

01:19:09.840 thank you for joining us

01:19:10.800 because you have laid out

01:19:12.180 an enormous amount

01:19:13.140 of evidence

01:19:13.640 that apparently

01:19:14.720 you don't exist,

01:19:16.660 the House doesn't exist,

01:19:17.820 the investigation

01:19:18.380 doesn't exist,

01:19:19.560 the bank records

01:19:20.300 don't exist,

01:19:21.020 the WhatsApp doesn't exist,

01:19:22.580 Burisma doesn't exist, 1.00

01:19:23.840 $24 million doesn't exist,

01:19:26.180 $240,000 to Joe Biden

01:19:28.220 doesn't exist.

01:19:28.780 None of that exists

01:19:29.860 because we're told

01:19:30.880 there's no evidence. 0.61

01:19:32.120 These are lying shills,

01:19:34.220 but the truth will out.

01:19:36.220 Thank you for all you're doing

01:19:37.260 and James,

01:19:38.620 have a Merry Christmas.

01:19:40.460 Congressman,

01:19:41.120 again,

01:19:41.500 thank you so much

01:19:42.380 for joining us,

01:19:43.260 Senator.

01:19:43.880 This is such an important

01:19:45.100 conversation,

01:19:46.060 obviously,

01:19:46.700 and I will say

01:19:47.260 to everyone that's listening,

01:19:48.980 make sure

01:19:49.660 that you help us

01:19:51.000 get the word out.

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01:20:05.380 and when you share it

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01:20:07.100 you bring so many others

01:20:08.380 into the conversation

01:20:09.640 and allow them

01:20:10.820 to hear the facts

01:20:11.500 of what the mainstream media

01:20:12.600 is not covering.

01:20:14.060 I'll say it again.

01:20:14.960 Thank you to James Comer

01:20:16.040 and Jim Jordan

01:20:16.840 for all their hard work

01:20:18.140 and we hope you enjoyed

01:20:19.640 everything that we talked about.

01:20:21.500 The Senator and I

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Verdict with Ted Cruz - December 25, 2023

UNCUT! ALL the Evidence of Joe Biden's Corruption with James Comer

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