Verdict with Ted Cruz - Unvetted & Unchecked brings Disaster, Fear vs. Future on AI plus CAFE Standards not so Cozy Week In Review

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00:00:05.240 Welcome, it is Verdict with Ted Cruz.

00:00:07.360 Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson with you.

00:00:09.340 And these are the stories you may have missed

00:00:11.280 that we talked about this week.

00:00:12.960 First up, a big story coming out of Washington, D.C.

00:00:16.580 National Guardsmen that were shot, one of them killed.

00:00:19.800 And what we now know is the media

00:00:21.260 wanted to blame Donald Trump for this.

00:00:23.960 Well, they now have had a massive backfire

00:00:26.980 as we're learning that this was clearly

00:00:29.120 lack of vetting done and warnings that were there

00:00:32.800 by the Biden administration

00:00:34.220 that they were letting people in this country 0.98

00:00:36.520 that could be a threat to all of us.

00:00:38.420 I'll have all those details for you in just a moment.

00:00:41.660 We're also joined by Scott Jennings.

00:00:44.140 You know him from CNN.

00:00:45.860 He's talking about his new book and also AI.

00:00:49.120 And what you need to know, it's really incredible.

00:00:51.920 And finally, a massive win

00:00:54.320 for the President of the United States of America

00:00:56.020 telling Americans,

00:00:57.260 Friends, I want to get out of your car.

00:01:00.940 Cafe standards are now changing and going backwards.

00:01:04.700 And what does that mean?

00:01:05.840 A car that you can buy is going to be a lot lower priced.

00:01:09.920 It's the Weekend Review, and it starts right now.

00:01:12.800 The media is trying to say

00:01:15.920 that these National Guardsmen that got shot,

00:01:18.680 one of them has died.

00:01:19.680 It's the time we are doing this.

00:01:21.800 It happened, they're trying to say,

00:01:23.500 because of Donald Trump rewriting the history

00:01:25.880 and the warnings going back to,

00:01:27.480 as we just played there,

00:01:28.220 from September of 2021

00:01:29.620 on this exact thing happening in reality.

00:01:33.320 Yeah, at the same time,

00:01:34.460 I wrote an op-ed in Fox News

00:01:35.900 where I said,

00:01:36.540 unfortunately, I believe we will see

00:01:38.280 American blood spilled 0.99

00:01:39.800 because of these foolish mistakes. 0.99

00:01:42.340 And I went on to say, 0.99

00:01:43.980 the truth is that the Taliban 0.88

00:01:45.140 doesn't want to be welcomed

00:01:46.480 into the community of civilized nations. 0.99

00:01:48.720 They are vicious terrorists 1.00

00:01:50.000 who want to kill us. 1.00

00:01:52.360 Unfortunately, because of the catastrophic mistakes

00:01:54.640 the Biden administration made in Afghanistan,

00:01:57.180 we are much more at risk

00:01:58.820 for deadly attacks by the Taliban or Al-Qaeda,

00:02:01.940 which Pentagon officials estimate

00:02:03.760 could regroup in Afghanistan

00:02:05.220 in the next year or two.

00:02:06.440 It's a disgrace.

00:02:07.980 And the fault lies directly

00:02:09.860 with President Joe Biden

00:02:11.060 and his administration.

00:02:12.600 This was obvious at the time.

00:02:15.000 And look, you heard on that clip

00:02:17.120 in September 21,

00:02:18.100 I'm talking about seeing

00:02:19.360 the Donna Anna tent facility.

00:02:23.060 When I showed up there,

00:02:24.220 I was like,

00:02:24.660 well, are there any fences around it?

00:02:26.340 No.

00:02:27.420 Is there any barrier?

00:02:28.580 They're like, no, no,

00:02:29.060 this is not a prison facility.

00:02:30.540 And it was a one-star general

00:02:32.180 who was taking me around

00:02:33.080 in the helicopter.

00:02:33.640 And I'm like, well,

00:02:35.600 you know, what happens?

00:02:37.020 You're saying anyone can leave?

00:02:38.380 He's like, yeah, they're not detained.

00:02:39.860 This is just,

00:02:40.400 we're just offering them housing.

00:02:41.580 Think of this like an apartment complex.

00:02:43.020 They can stay here if they want.

00:02:45.480 Or if they want to go somewhere else.

00:02:47.520 They can go.

00:02:48.060 If they want to disappear.

00:02:48.580 They can go somewhere else.

00:02:49.080 They can disappear.

00:02:50.480 Yeah.

00:02:50.740 And I asked the army,

00:02:51.700 are y'all doing any vetting here?

00:02:53.040 They said, no, no, no.

00:02:53.740 The State Department does that in Afghanistan.

00:02:55.520 So it's all done before they get there.

00:02:57.880 So they got 10,000 people there.

00:02:59.660 And who knows where they went?

00:03:01.320 They don't keep a record of them.

00:03:03.360 They don't ask, where do you go?

00:03:05.980 I mean, that's part of the infuriating problem

00:03:08.680 that the Biden administration

00:03:11.700 invited into this country. 0.98

00:03:15.160 Islamists, terrorists, 1.00

00:03:16.800 who explicitly want to murder us. 1.00

00:03:18.720 And by the way,

00:03:19.940 you know what is unbelievable?

00:03:22.320 It is the shooting

00:03:23.660 in DC was one of two

00:03:27.680 Afghans who were arrested this week

00:03:31.880 for threatening violence.

00:03:33.520 Another one happened in Texas.

00:03:36.580 Here's one report from Breitbart.

00:03:38.220 An Afghan national admitted to the United States

00:03:41.420 under President Biden's Operation Allies

00:03:43.780 Welcome Resettlement Program 1.00

00:03:45.420 was arrested this week

00:03:47.140 after posting a TikTok video

00:03:49.440 in which he appeared to be building a bomb

00:03:52.120 and referenced Fort Worth as a target

00:03:55.220 according to the Department of Homeland Security.

00:03:57.640 Department of Homeland Security

00:03:58.760 Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin

00:04:00.480 reported the arrest of Mohamed Dawoud Alokaze

00:04:03.780 saying he allegedly posted a video on TikTok

00:04:07.140 threatening to blow up a building

00:04:08.680 in Fort Worth, Texas with a bomb.

00:04:11.520 The Texas Department of Public Safety

00:04:13.480 and the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force

00:04:15.620 teamed up to make the arrest

00:04:17.220 on charges of making terroristic threats.

00:04:19.940 This is happening

00:04:21.840 and by the way, it continues to be

00:04:23.500 Alokaze is an Afghan national 0.97

00:04:26.880 who was pardoned into the United States

00:04:29.020 by the Biden administration.

00:04:31.040 His arrest came one day prior

00:04:32.860 to the vicious attack

00:04:33.900 on two West Virginia National Guard soldiers

00:04:35.880 in Washington, D.C.

00:04:37.340 by another Afghan national.

00:04:39.460 This pattern

00:04:40.680 when you let people in

00:04:42.680 you don't vet them

00:04:43.800 this violence and this terrorism

00:04:46.280 is predictable

00:04:47.280 and you had a combination of

00:04:49.680 A, for four years

00:04:50.680 an open southern border

00:04:51.680 so any Hamas or Hezbollah

00:04:53.000 or other terrorists

00:04:53.720 could come in through the southern border.

00:04:55.400 You combine

00:04:56.700 what we're witnessing now

00:04:58.360 with what you just mentioned

00:04:59.600 Senator, at the southern border.

00:05:01.220 We knew for a fact

00:05:03.680 that people on the terrorist watch list

00:05:06.160 were coming across our southern border

00:05:07.820 the same border

00:05:08.640 that when Texas tried to secure it

00:05:10.440 the federal government said

00:05:11.440 no, no, we're going to use forklifts

00:05:12.600 to raise up the bob wire

00:05:13.940 to let more people in.

00:05:15.120 We have that on video.

00:05:15.960 We talked about that on Verdict.

00:05:17.780 They knew that people

00:05:18.720 were getting on the terrorist watch list

00:05:20.120 people that wanted to kill Americans

00:05:22.000 they knew there was a real threat

00:05:23.700 of sleeper cells in this country

00:05:25.880 coming from multiple places

00:05:27.380 around the world

00:05:27.780 and there still is

00:05:28.940 Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Shabaab

00:05:29.860 exactly, still is

00:05:31.040 and you combine that with this

00:05:33.720 and you sit there

00:05:34.540 and you go

00:05:34.880 basically they said

00:05:35.920 look, we know people are going to die

00:05:37.140 but we want an open border

00:05:38.540 we know terrorists are coming in

00:05:40.100 we know they're on the watch list

00:05:41.220 we know we're catching some of them

00:05:42.520 there's a lot of gotaways

00:05:43.360 that we don't catch

00:05:44.100 this is just the cost of doing business

00:05:46.300 there will be human carnage

00:05:47.640 of American citizens

00:05:48.940 the abuse of children 0.99

00:05:49.940 the rape of children 0.97

00:05:50.880 the sex trafficking of children 1.00

00:05:52.480 there will be murderers

00:05:53.740 and all sorts of people

00:05:55.440 in this country

00:05:56.440 we know that

00:05:57.620 it's worth it

00:05:58.960 to flood America 0.97

00:05:59.900 with illegal immigrants 0.91

00:06:00.860 that was a calculated decision

00:06:03.100 they made

00:06:03.700 it was

00:06:05.740 and the two occurred simultaneously

00:06:07.000 so on one

00:06:08.100 on the one hand

00:06:09.640 they're opening the southern border

00:06:10.780 and letting anyone come in

00:06:12.160 but on the other hand

00:06:13.460 they're affirmatively flying

00:06:15.340 tens of thousands of Afghans

00:06:17.720 and by the way

00:06:18.040 we don't have any firm numbers

00:06:19.140 in terms of how many

00:06:19.940 they brought in

00:06:20.600 in terms of vetting

00:06:22.040 you know

00:06:22.840 you don't have anyone

00:06:24.100 from the Biden administration

00:06:25.100 saying

00:06:25.560 oh yeah

00:06:26.060 we thoroughly vetted this guy

00:06:27.740 before we brought him here

00:06:28.820 because their view was

00:06:30.400 there was nothing to vet

00:06:31.440 if they're bringing

00:06:33.980 a 50 year old dude

00:06:35.520 with an 8 year old girl

00:06:37.200 that he says is his wife

00:06:38.420 that shows you 0.99

00:06:39.880 how utterly incompetent

00:06:41.360 the vetting is

00:06:41.980 that they just didn't care

00:06:43.160 ideologically

00:06:44.180 they believed

00:06:45.920 well their culture

00:06:46.820 apparently it's okay 1.00

00:06:47.640 to rape little girls 1.00

00:06:48.460 and so they certainly 0.99

00:06:50.200 were not asking

00:06:51.160 engaging in the serious vetting

00:06:54.340 and it's difficult

00:06:55.040 look one of the problems

00:06:55.980 with vetting

00:06:56.520 a place like Afghanistan 0.51

00:06:57.600 is there are limited records

00:06:59.540 and so that's not an easy task

00:07:01.440 in my view

00:07:02.080 unless you can conclusively

00:07:03.540 determine

00:07:04.040 that this person

00:07:05.000 is not a terror threat

00:07:05.960 we should not be

00:07:06.760 bringing him to America

00:07:07.720 and so

00:07:09.060 but the Biden administration

00:07:12.060 I don't believe

00:07:13.320 was even trying

00:07:14.380 to vet them

00:07:15.060 in any serious way

00:07:16.100 they were just

00:07:17.160 bringing in numbers

00:07:18.000 because this was

00:07:18.680 all about politics

00:07:20.460 rather than the substance

00:07:22.320 of keeping America safe

00:07:23.600 all right Senator

00:07:24.240 I want to go back

00:07:25.000 to a little over

00:07:26.100 a year ago

00:07:27.140 and let's just remind

00:07:28.540 people of the

00:07:29.420 Democratic Party

00:07:30.280 and also how we got

00:07:31.400 to the point

00:07:31.860 that we're at right now

00:07:32.780 well this just shows

00:07:35.160 the overlap

00:07:35.760 we were talking about

00:07:36.580 before that ideologically

00:07:37.980 today's Democrat Party

00:07:39.600 refuses to acknowledge

00:07:41.240 the threat of

00:07:41.860 radical Islamic terrorism

00:07:43.120 refuses to acknowledge

00:07:44.180 radical Islam 0.85

00:07:44.940 and that it is 0.64

00:07:45.620 fundamentally anti-American

00:07:47.100 and so in April of 24

00:07:49.140 there were protesters

00:07:50.340 in Dearborn, Michigan

00:07:51.560 for the

00:07:53.200 and it was the

00:07:53.940 international

00:07:54.840 Al-Quds Day rally

00:07:56.360 where they began

00:07:57.560 chanting

00:07:58.220 death to America

00:07:59.660 and when that happened

00:08:02.120 so Dearborn, Michigan

00:08:03.740 is in Rashida Tlaib's district

00:08:05.460 she is the member

00:08:06.160 of Congress

00:08:06.640 that represents

00:08:07.460 Dearborn, Michigan

00:08:08.800 you have a rally

00:08:09.980 in her district

00:08:10.600 chanting death

00:08:11.300 to America

00:08:11.840 and Fox News

00:08:12.780 quite reasonably

00:08:13.460 came and asked her

00:08:14.540 if she would condemn that

00:08:16.100 give a watch

00:08:17.600 and give a listen

00:08:18.160 to how she responded

00:08:19.100 Not a great look

00:08:29.760 the mayor condemned it

00:08:31.540 the White House

00:08:32.180 condemned it

00:08:32.880 but what about

00:08:34.040 Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib

00:08:35.600 she repped

00:08:37.120 Dearborn

00:08:37.620 is she okay

00:08:38.820 with her constituents

00:08:39.720 chanting

00:08:40.400 death to America

00:08:41.600 Fox Business correspondent

00:08:43.920 Hillary Vaughn 0.97

00:08:44.740 asked her

00:08:45.240 watch

00:08:45.780 Congresswoman Tlaib

00:08:47.960 I don't talk to Fox News

00:08:50.160 at a rally

00:08:50.900 in your district

00:08:51.560 people were chanting

00:08:52.660 death to America

00:08:53.820 do you condemn

00:08:54.800 I do not talk to Fox News

00:08:56.600 but do you condemn

00:08:57.380 chants of death to America

00:08:58.740 I don't talk to people

00:09:00.700 that use racist tropes

00:09:01.920 why can't you just say

00:09:04.600 whether or not

00:09:05.100 you condemn

00:09:05.620 people chanting

00:09:06.400 death to America

00:09:07.000 why are you afraid

00:09:08.060 to talk to Fox

00:09:08.900 Fox News

00:09:09.420 is not

00:09:10.780 not

00:09:11.800 listen

00:09:12.140 using racist tropes

00:09:13.440 towards my community

00:09:14.300 is what Fox News

00:09:16.380 is about

00:09:16.820 and I don't talk

00:09:17.340 to Fox News

00:09:17.880 is death to America 0.93

00:09:19.280 racist 0.99

00:09:20.140 is chanting 1.00

00:09:22.180 death to America 1.00

00:09:23.020 racist 1.00

00:09:23.460 I'm talking about 0.88

00:09:24.020 your guys

00:09:24.400 racist tropes

00:09:25.160 you know

00:09:25.920 you guys are

00:09:26.400 you guys know

00:09:26.940 exactly what you do

00:09:27.820 I know you're 0.85

00:09:28.880 Islamophobic 0.80

00:09:29.480 but you guys 0.92

00:09:30.420 gotta go deal

00:09:31.020 with it

00:09:31.320 on your own self

00:09:32.000 you're not gonna

00:09:32.360 use me

00:09:32.880 alright Senator

00:09:34.520 you go back to that

00:09:35.500 and it's just

00:09:36.500 one of those moments

00:09:37.580 where

00:09:38.640 the warning signs

00:09:40.400 are there

00:09:40.860 we tell you

00:09:42.780 that these warning signs

00:09:44.140 are there

00:09:44.800 and then it happens

00:09:46.400 and I hate it

00:09:47.160 that it happens

00:09:47.560 but it's so

00:09:48.300 predictable now

00:09:49.520 you know

00:09:51.540 it reminds me

00:09:52.440 when Obama was president

00:09:53.800 John Kerry was

00:09:54.620 secretary of state

00:09:55.500 there was an editorial

00:09:56.340 cartoon

00:09:56.840 and it had the

00:09:57.940 Ayatollah in Iran

00:09:58.880 going 0.81

00:09:59.260 death to America

00:10:00.460 and it had

00:10:01.480 John Kerry saying

00:10:02.280 well can we meet you

00:10:03.460 halfway

00:10:03.840 yeah

00:10:04.900 that's the

00:10:06.660 ideological incoherence

00:10:08.500 look

00:10:09.320 when you walk down

00:10:10.480 the halls

00:10:11.100 of Congress

00:10:12.300 and you've been

00:10:13.200 there with me Ben

00:10:14.240 reporters stop you

00:10:15.740 all the time

00:10:16.220 by the way

00:10:16.560 I answer questions

00:10:17.360 from Fox News

00:10:18.040 I answer questions

00:10:18.720 from CNN

00:10:19.160 I answer questions

00:10:19.900 from New York Times

00:10:20.560 I answer questions

00:10:21.340 from every

00:10:22.080 lefty outlet

00:10:23.040 just walking along

00:10:24.200 because if you know

00:10:25.160 what you believe

00:10:25.840 I gotta say

00:10:27.060 that's not

00:10:27.700 a gotcha question

00:10:28.980 it's not a difficult

00:10:30.040 question

00:10:30.380 do you support 0.91

00:10:32.240 death to America 0.99

00:10:33.860 if you are a member 1.00

00:10:35.200 of the United States

00:10:36.200 Congress

00:10:36.720 the Congress

00:10:37.900 of the United States

00:10:38.860 of America

00:10:39.340 one would think

00:10:40.180 it ought to be easy

00:10:41.260 to say yeah

00:10:41.740 of course 0.99

00:10:42.060 death to America 0.98

00:10:42.640 is wrong

00:10:42.960 I'm against that

00:10:44.020 that should not

00:10:45.620 be difficult

00:10:46.260 for anyone

00:10:47.580 it speaks volumes

00:10:49.800 that Rashida Tlaib

00:10:50.800 was unwilling

00:10:51.640 to even

00:10:52.380 condemn

00:10:53.120 chance of death

00:10:55.020 to America

00:10:55.720 in her own

00:10:56.960 congressional district

00:10:58.060 that shows

00:10:59.360 just how dangerous

00:11:00.260 the ideological

00:11:00.980 rot is

00:11:01.680 and tragically

00:11:02.420 we saw

00:11:03.460 the very real

00:11:04.160 consequences

00:11:04.960 of that ideological

00:11:05.920 rot

00:11:06.460 in letting

00:11:07.560 unvetted

00:11:08.380 Afghan

00:11:09.180 Afghan

00:11:11.240 immigrants

00:11:11.700 into this

00:11:12.240 country

00:11:12.680 one of whom

00:11:13.520 just murdered

00:11:14.460 one D.C.

00:11:15.280 National Guardsman

00:11:16.100 and may have

00:11:16.580 murdered a second

00:11:17.200 we pray

00:11:17.820 that he survives

00:11:19.180 but at this point

00:11:19.940 our prayers are with him

00:11:21.340 because we don't know

00:11:22.040 if he's going to survive

00:11:23.020 the horrific attack

00:11:24.300 now if you want to hear

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00:12:00.980 now on to

00:12:03.640 story number two

00:12:04.680 so on AI

00:12:05.840 AI is an issue

00:12:07.120 I care about a lot

00:12:07.960 and I agree

00:12:08.500 with you

00:12:08.940 that we are

00:12:09.460 in a race

00:12:10.160 AI is coming

00:12:11.060 and either

00:12:12.400 the United States

00:12:13.100 is going to win

00:12:13.620 or China is going

00:12:14.200 to win

00:12:14.440 and I think

00:12:15.280 the world

00:12:15.680 is much much

00:12:16.360 worse off

00:12:17.060 if China wins

00:12:17.840 and it's much

00:12:18.340 better off

00:12:18.840 if America wins

00:12:19.600 I will tell you

00:12:21.340 the polling

00:12:22.000 on AI

00:12:22.620 is terrible

00:12:24.060 AI is unpopular

00:12:26.080 in America

00:12:26.560 if you do

00:12:27.100 almost any polling

00:12:28.300 you do

00:12:28.700 it's about

00:12:29.660 70-30

00:12:30.740 people are terrified

00:12:31.660 they're afraid

00:12:32.360 they're going to

00:12:32.700 lose their jobs

00:12:33.440 they don't trust it

00:12:34.420 they're scared of it

00:12:35.340 and I get that

00:12:36.720 and in fact

00:12:37.960 I talk with a lot

00:12:38.800 of the tech leaders

00:12:39.420 and I say

00:12:39.840 look

00:12:40.060 if you don't engage

00:12:41.040 on this issue

00:12:41.740 the easy

00:12:43.280 political outcome

00:12:44.340 every Democrat

00:12:45.080 and a number

00:12:45.860 of Republicans

00:12:46.400 are like

00:12:46.820 AI is horrible

00:12:47.540 we oppose it

00:12:48.320 and that

00:12:49.880 if you look

00:12:50.340 at the polling

00:12:50.780 that's the

00:12:52.280 knee-jerk response

00:12:53.440 I get

00:12:55.800 that fear

00:12:57.540 I understand

00:12:58.480 anytime you have

00:13:00.300 economic dislocation

00:13:01.480 it is frightening

00:13:02.580 it is dangerous

00:13:03.500 but at the end

00:13:05.840 of the day

00:13:06.140 I'm not a Luddite

00:13:06.880 I don't think

00:13:07.460 you can stop

00:13:08.520 technological advancement

00:13:09.900 I'll give you an example

00:13:10.800 if I could right now

00:13:13.060 destroy every cell phone 0.96

00:13:14.300 in America 0.96

00:13:14.700 I would

00:13:15.200 I think these are

00:13:16.000 evil portals

00:13:17.200 to everything harmful

00:13:18.160 in the world

00:13:18.740 all three of us

00:13:20.580 are parents

00:13:21.160 these things

00:13:22.480 invite

00:13:23.200 every horrible force

00:13:25.240 to our children

00:13:26.140 but we don't live

00:13:28.020 in that world

00:13:28.460 we can't end that

00:13:29.240 I'd also like a world

00:13:30.160 with no nuclear weapons

00:13:31.080 like if I could

00:13:32.020 push a button

00:13:32.860 and every nuclear weapon

00:13:33.720 disappear

00:13:34.060 I would

00:13:34.520 but we don't live

00:13:36.060 in that world

00:13:36.540 and if we're going

00:13:37.000 to live in a world

00:13:37.460 with nuclear weapons

00:13:38.280 I sure as heck

00:13:39.020 want to make sure

00:13:39.580 the United States

00:13:40.260 has enough

00:13:40.840 that China and Russia

00:13:42.120 and our enemies

00:13:42.620 can't dominate us

00:13:43.440 I view AI

00:13:44.140 in the same world

00:13:44.940 even if you don't

00:13:46.480 want it to happen

00:13:47.140 it is coming

00:13:48.260 and one of two

00:13:50.600 outcomes will occur

00:13:52.080 in five to ten years

00:13:53.660 either China

00:13:55.640 will have won the race

00:13:56.640 in which case

00:13:57.260 AI worldwide

00:13:58.260 will reflect China's values

00:13:59.820 will be totalitarian

00:14:00.920 will be controlling

00:14:01.780 will be censoring

00:14:03.140 will reflect the values

00:14:04.320 of communist China

00:14:05.140 or America

00:14:06.220 will have won

00:14:07.240 in which case

00:14:08.460 hopefully AI

00:14:09.160 will reflect

00:14:10.080 American values

00:14:11.120 of freedom

00:14:11.640 free enterprise

00:14:12.460 free speech

00:14:13.200 that is a massive shift

00:14:15.200 between those two worlds

00:14:16.400 world two is much better

00:14:18.000 where America wins

00:14:18.800 two questions

00:14:21.300 number one

00:14:21.800 do you agree with that

00:14:22.740 and number two

00:14:25.200 if so

00:14:27.300 how does the politics change

00:14:29.220 do you agree with my point

00:14:30.220 that right now

00:14:30.860 the politics

00:14:31.500 is against AI

00:14:32.400 and that is

00:14:34.700 dangerous

00:14:35.580 yes I agree

00:14:36.900 first of all

00:14:37.720 in point one

00:14:38.200 I agree with everything

00:14:39.000 you said about

00:14:39.660 which world

00:14:40.140 we want to live in

00:14:40.860 number two

00:14:41.360 I agree with you

00:14:41.980 on the polling

00:14:43.020 and I think people

00:14:43.740 have a healthy fear

00:14:44.860 of how this is going

00:14:45.960 to upend their life

00:14:47.160 quite reasonable

00:14:48.440 which is a reasonable fear

00:14:50.300 and so the next

00:14:51.040 iteration of this

00:14:52.140 march towards AI

00:14:54.500 is going to have to be

00:14:55.440 not how it's going

00:14:56.160 to make your life worse

00:14:57.020 how is it going

00:14:57.440 to make your life better

00:14:58.200 how has any other

00:14:59.680 technological evolution

00:15:00.820 ultimately made your life better

00:15:02.380 and so that explanation

00:15:03.900 has to come

00:15:04.880 and then point four

00:15:06.440 is just going to be

00:15:07.060 how are we going

00:15:07.400 to power it all

00:15:08.100 and you know

00:15:09.980 are we going to be able

00:15:10.520 to produce enough energy

00:15:11.360 to do what we have to do

00:15:12.400 now plus what we have to do

00:15:14.060 AI is energy

00:15:15.140 and if we don't unleash energy

00:15:17.000 we cannot win the race for AI

00:15:18.380 one other issue on this

00:15:19.460 that is on my mind

00:15:20.700 is how are we going to build

00:15:22.080 enough of these data centers

00:15:23.500 to win this thing

00:15:25.260 I'm noticing in local communities

00:15:26.800 in a lot of places

00:15:27.620 folks are like

00:15:28.860 rising up against

00:15:30.180 data center development

00:15:31.060 so the polling is terrible

00:15:32.220 in most communities

00:15:33.380 but I will say by the way

00:15:34.420 one of the few exceptions

00:15:35.460 is sort of West Texas

00:15:36.660 you've got West Texas

00:15:37.740 in the panhandle

00:15:38.440 and you're seeing a ton

00:15:39.240 of data centers

00:15:39.860 come in there

00:15:40.480 and Texans are like 0.54

00:15:42.680 alright we want jobs

00:15:43.540 we want investment

00:15:44.260 we want billions in investment

00:15:45.580 and there will be jobs

00:15:46.720 for construction

00:15:47.420 there will be jobs

00:15:47.980 for running the data centers

00:15:49.040 look I think in

00:15:50.640 dense urban areas

00:15:52.100 people are afraid

00:15:53.080 they're afraid 0.97

00:15:53.640 it will suck power

00:15:54.760 it will drive up

00:15:55.420 their electricity prices

00:15:56.460 it will suck water 0.69

00:15:57.380 and I get those fears

00:15:58.880 look anyone

00:16:00.100 if you're given a choice

00:16:01.820 do you want something

00:16:02.580 that will make your life

00:16:03.520 worse or better

00:16:04.420 people are naturally

00:16:06.280 going to say

00:16:06.620 I don't want something

00:16:07.180 that makes my life worse

00:16:08.040 and so

00:16:09.160 I think

00:16:11.160 I had a guy

00:16:11.660 by the way

00:16:12.040 Senator

00:16:12.260 I had a guy

00:16:12.680 the other day

00:16:13.000 that said to me

00:16:13.460 in the AI industry

00:16:14.400 he said

00:16:14.780 the hardest part

00:16:15.920 for them now

00:16:17.300 is overcoming

00:16:18.260 what you're describing

00:16:19.120 because he said

00:16:19.760 their polling data

00:16:20.880 internally says

00:16:21.660 that the fear

00:16:22.860 in a lot of parts

00:16:23.840 of the country

00:16:24.300 right now

00:16:24.820 are at the level

00:16:26.260 of where they were

00:16:27.080 with nuclear reactors

00:16:28.220 back in the 80s

00:16:29.340 yes

00:16:29.540 interesting

00:16:30.040 and there's been

00:16:31.540 a lot of demagoguery

00:16:32.700 and but there's also

00:16:34.880 the demagoguery is there

00:16:36.920 but I will say

00:16:37.760 the fears of AI

00:16:38.940 are real and justified

00:16:41.720 and and

00:16:42.520 all right look

00:16:44.580 with every great

00:16:45.420 technological change

00:16:46.640 there's been

00:16:47.160 economic dislocation

00:16:48.400 so when the automobile

00:16:49.340 was invented

00:16:50.100 the horse and buggy

00:16:51.640 industry was decimated

00:16:52.620 and if you were

00:16:53.540 in the buggy business 0.99

00:16:54.960 you were screwed 0.74

00:16:56.560 the difference 0.95

00:16:59.220 with AI

00:16:59.800 is twofold

00:17:00.640 number one

00:17:01.220 the volume

00:17:01.820 is greater

00:17:02.360 I think there are

00:17:02.980 going to be

00:17:03.320 more jobs

00:17:04.500 that are going

00:17:05.840 to be threatened

00:17:06.360 by AI

00:17:07.100 than have been

00:17:08.500 in previous

00:17:09.620 technological innovations

00:17:11.020 number two

00:17:12.800 it's a different

00:17:13.360 contour of jobs

00:17:14.580 so often

00:17:16.320 in the past

00:17:17.000 it's been blue collar

00:17:17.880 jobs that have been

00:17:18.780 at risk

00:17:19.340 many of the jobs

00:17:20.980 that are at risk

00:17:21.600 with AI

00:17:22.060 are white collar

00:17:23.220 jobs

00:17:23.720 they're

00:17:24.400 if you look

00:17:25.260 at Mondami

00:17:25.880 part of what

00:17:26.600 elected Mondami

00:17:27.860 is you have

00:17:28.920 young college

00:17:30.620 graduates

00:17:31.120 who have

00:17:32.020 two hundred thousand

00:17:33.060 dollars in college

00:17:33.980 debt

00:17:34.320 who were told

00:17:35.900 I can go

00:17:36.820 and be an investment

00:17:37.620 banker

00:17:38.100 a consultant

00:17:38.780 or an accountant

00:17:39.440 and they're seeing

00:17:40.680 those jobs 0.65

00:17:41.400 being eliminated

00:17:42.400 as AI

00:17:43.020 is replacing

00:17:43.880 thousands

00:17:45.260 and thousands

00:17:46.060 of those jobs

00:17:46.880 that's a level

00:17:48.560 of

00:17:48.900 I guess

00:17:50.140 I would call

00:17:50.640 elite discontent

00:17:52.180 that is

00:17:54.660 politically

00:17:56.580 complicated

00:17:57.340 and so

00:17:58.740 and I get

00:18:00.640 those concerns

00:18:01.600 are very real

00:18:02.300 if you've gone

00:18:03.380 and worked hard

00:18:04.000 and you got a degree

00:18:04.740 and you took out

00:18:06.140 loans

00:18:06.620 and you were told

00:18:07.200 this is what

00:18:07.720 I gotta do

00:18:08.300 and then suddenly

00:18:08.840 you come out

00:18:09.360 and you can't

00:18:09.720 get a job

00:18:10.280 you're pissed

00:18:11.620 like that's

00:18:12.840 a very real

00:18:13.520 concern

00:18:13.960 and so I actually

00:18:15.300 think as

00:18:15.840 policy makers

00:18:17.680 as people

00:18:18.200 in elected office

00:18:19.200 we need to have

00:18:20.240 real solutions

00:18:21.060 to that problem

00:18:21.800 because that

00:18:22.380 that discontent

00:18:23.780 is not illegitimate

00:18:25.400 but it is driving

00:18:27.180 much of this resistance

00:18:28.380 and it's a very

00:18:29.460 real battle

00:18:30.000 we've got

00:18:30.400 well and you have

00:18:31.780 now for

00:18:32.420 you know

00:18:32.900 many years

00:18:33.740 people

00:18:34.480 teaching their children

00:18:36.160 here's the course

00:18:36.900 you gotta get on

00:18:37.620 do well in school

00:18:38.520 go to college

00:18:39.240 you can get

00:18:39.780 one of these

00:18:40.260 white collar jobs

00:18:41.380 and you know

00:18:42.580 for you know

00:18:43.420 a few generations

00:18:44.000 we've been telling

00:18:44.540 people this is the

00:18:45.280 path

00:18:45.560 it may not be

00:18:46.500 the path anymore

00:18:47.800 we're gonna have

00:18:48.240 to reorient

00:18:48.900 how we're

00:18:49.620 educating kids

00:18:50.740 what we're

00:18:52.080 teaching them to do

00:18:52.800 what other skills

00:18:53.540 can we teach them

00:18:54.280 to do

00:18:54.580 I agree with you

00:18:55.120 on the

00:18:55.480 white collar

00:18:56.300 versus blue

00:18:57.140 collar issue

00:18:57.620 also creatives

00:18:58.460 I mean

00:18:59.000 they're freaked out

00:19:01.240 I've seen AI

00:19:02.100 apps in a matter

00:19:03.280 of seconds

00:19:03.840 write songs

00:19:04.620 that sounded like

00:19:05.480 they had a whole

00:19:06.280 team of musicians

00:19:07.320 and writers

00:19:07.880 over weeks

00:19:08.600 putting them

00:19:09.000 together

00:19:09.300 in California

00:19:10.640 and it literally

00:19:11.580 happened on my

00:19:12.160 phone

00:19:12.420 in a matter

00:19:12.800 of seconds

00:19:13.340 by the way

00:19:13.760 I'll tell you

00:19:14.260 in politics

00:19:14.820 it's interesting

00:19:15.500 I'll pull up AI

00:19:16.400 and I'll ask

00:19:17.920 something like

00:19:18.680 what has Cruz

00:19:20.280 said on the

00:19:21.040 following issue

00:19:21.760 and listen

00:19:22.340 I've been doing

00:19:22.760 this a long time

00:19:23.480 so I don't

00:19:23.880 remember every

00:19:24.540 comment I've

00:19:25.140 given in every

00:19:25.680 newspaper interview

00:19:26.600 10 years ago

00:19:27.460 and in like

00:19:28.680 four seconds

00:19:29.640 it comes out

00:19:30.540 with he said

00:19:31.320 this here

00:19:31.720 he said this

00:19:32.180 here

00:19:32.340 and it like

00:19:32.740 traces

00:19:33.460 and it's

00:19:34.200 like

00:19:34.460 it's insane

00:19:36.140 it is insane

00:19:38.080 the ability

00:19:38.980 of power

00:19:39.520 you have

00:19:39.920 on your

00:19:40.180 cell phone

00:19:40.540 oh yeah

00:19:41.600 I mean

00:19:42.100 and it's

00:19:42.960 basically

00:19:43.320 free

00:19:43.700 I mean

00:19:44.520 information

00:19:45.180 for the

00:19:46.520 first time

00:19:47.000 in human

00:19:47.420 history

00:19:47.700 is basically

00:19:48.540 accessible

00:19:49.520 to all

00:19:50.040 and free

00:19:50.500 to all

00:19:50.940 and instant

00:19:51.520 and yeah

00:19:52.920 it's

00:19:53.420 I can see

00:19:54.280 why the

00:19:54.600 polling on

00:19:55.020 this is bad

00:19:55.600 now

00:19:55.840 the positive

00:19:57.900 outlook here

00:19:58.500 is how can

00:19:59.240 we use

00:19:59.540 these tools

00:20:00.100 to make

00:20:00.620 your life

00:20:00.960 easier

00:20:01.360 make you

00:20:01.780 more productive

00:20:02.340 and maybe

00:20:03.440 make you

00:20:03.880 more economically

00:20:04.460 successful

00:20:05.080 maybe you

00:20:05.480 haven't conceived

00:20:06.100 of how that

00:20:06.580 will work

00:20:06.980 yet

00:20:07.200 but that's

00:20:08.260 the challenge

00:20:08.840 of these

00:20:09.080 companies that

00:20:09.600 are developing

00:20:10.000 the technology

00:20:10.480 as before

00:20:11.540 if you want

00:20:12.160 to hear

00:20:12.360 the rest

00:20:12.720 of this

00:20:12.940 conversation

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00:20:51.940 to the

00:20:52.260 big story

00:20:53.140 number

00:20:53.400 three

00:20:53.680 of the

00:20:53.880 week

00:20:54.080 you may

00:20:54.380 have

00:20:54.520 missed

00:20:54.860 senator

00:20:55.680 on

00:20:55.880 wednesday

00:20:56.280 you were

00:20:57.000 at the

00:20:57.280 white house

00:20:57.800 for a

00:20:58.420 really cool

00:20:58.960 moment

00:20:59.360 and that

00:20:59.940 was

00:21:00.360 president

00:21:01.260 trump

00:21:01.580 saying

00:21:01.960 i want

00:21:02.540 government

00:21:02.860 to get

00:21:03.260 out of

00:21:03.800 your way

00:21:04.240 and stop

00:21:04.820 making

00:21:05.160 things so

00:21:05.700 expensive

00:21:06.140 for you

00:21:06.640 specifically

00:21:07.180 cars

00:21:07.920 having a

00:21:08.840 reset

00:21:09.200 of cafe

00:21:09.720 standards

00:21:10.220 that were

00:21:10.540 out of

00:21:10.860 control

00:21:11.460 that is

00:21:12.400 going to

00:21:12.620 lower

00:21:12.780 the cost

00:21:13.280 of cars

00:21:13.800 for many

00:21:14.400 americans

00:21:14.960 we're also 0.96

00:21:15.360 getting rid

00:21:15.820 of the

00:21:16.040 obsession

00:21:16.520 with a

00:21:16.880 mandate

00:21:17.200 for EV

00:21:17.720 vehicles

00:21:18.240 which the

00:21:19.080 democrats 0.64

00:21:19.600 were hell

00:21:20.220 bent on

00:21:21.040 and this

00:21:22.160 is going

00:21:22.600 to again

00:21:22.980 make cars

00:21:23.880 more affordable

00:21:24.700 for americans

00:21:25.580 everyone should

00:21:26.520 be excited

00:21:26.980 about that

00:21:27.580 well that's

00:21:28.340 exactly right

00:21:29.120 after spending

00:21:29.760 monday at the

00:21:30.380 white house

00:21:30.780 with the

00:21:31.060 president

00:21:31.420 while he

00:21:31.740 was signing

00:21:32.120 my legislation

00:21:32.940 tripling

00:21:33.580 the monthly

00:21:34.960 stipend for

00:21:35.760 medal of

00:21:36.100 honor recipients

00:21:36.740 after spending

00:21:37.540 tuesday at the

00:21:38.300 white house

00:21:38.800 with the

00:21:39.120 president

00:21:39.480 and michael

00:21:39.980 and susan

00:21:40.620 dell giving

00:21:41.200 six and a

00:21:41.760 quarter billion

00:21:42.380 dollars to

00:21:43.320 the kids

00:21:43.740 of america

00:21:44.280 for trump

00:21:44.700 accounts

00:21:45.160 on wednesday

00:21:46.420 i joined the

00:21:47.120 president again

00:21:47.920 this time

00:21:48.540 with the

00:21:48.880 ceos of

00:21:49.600 the major

00:21:49.980 auto

00:21:50.280 companies

00:21:50.680 in the

00:21:50.920 united

00:21:51.180 states

00:21:51.660 as the

00:21:52.500 president

00:21:52.940 was

00:21:53.240 implementing

00:21:53.960 legislation

00:21:55.940 a provision

00:21:56.640 again that

00:21:57.220 i wrote

00:21:57.760 zeroing out

00:21:59.240 the cafe

00:21:59.760 standards

00:22:00.340 the cafe

00:22:00.860 standards

00:22:01.580 were the

00:22:02.760 federal

00:22:03.140 mileage

00:22:03.720 requirements

00:22:04.400 that the

00:22:04.760 biden

00:22:05.060 administration

00:22:05.600 used

00:22:06.520 to jack

00:22:07.440 them up

00:22:07.820 so high

00:22:08.540 that it

00:22:08.860 number one

00:22:09.400 made cars

00:22:09.980 much much

00:22:10.440 more expensive

00:22:11.180 but number

00:22:12.100 two it was

00:22:13.020 part of their

00:22:13.680 effort to

00:22:14.340 eliminate the

00:22:15.540 internal combustion

00:22:16.200 engine

00:22:16.580 to force

00:22:17.060 everyone

00:22:17.580 to buy

00:22:18.480 an electric

00:22:18.920 car

00:22:19.260 whether they

00:22:19.700 want it

00:22:20.080 or not

00:22:20.540 and and

00:22:21.580 as part of

00:22:22.480 the one big

00:22:23.020 beautiful bill

00:22:23.900 we zeroed that

00:22:24.800 out entirely

00:22:25.400 i wrote that

00:22:26.180 provision

00:22:26.660 and and on

00:22:27.840 wednesday the

00:22:28.720 president was

00:22:29.380 implementing it

00:22:30.240 here i want you to

00:22:31.040 give a listen to

00:22:31.620 the president

00:22:32.060 describing the

00:22:32.920 historic steps

00:22:33.720 he took on

00:22:34.300 wednesday

00:22:34.680 from day one

00:22:36.080 i've been taking

00:22:36.820 action to make

00:22:37.520 buying a car

00:22:38.160 more affordable

00:22:38.800 i signed an

00:22:39.720 executive order

00:22:40.460 to end the

00:22:41.320 unfair expensive

00:22:42.360 electric vehicle

00:22:44.100 mandate as you

00:22:44.960 know we had to

00:22:45.660 have an electric

00:22:46.860 car within a

00:22:47.600 very short period

00:22:48.240 of time even

00:22:49.180 though you there

00:22:49.840 was no way of

00:22:50.400 charging them and

00:22:51.260 lots of other

00:22:51.880 things would have

00:22:52.540 cost five trillion

00:22:54.280 dollars to build

00:22:55.100 the charging plants

00:22:56.080 and as you know in

00:22:58.120 certain parts of the

00:22:59.020 midwest they spent

00:22:59.960 to build nine

00:23:01.280 chargers they spent

00:23:03.060 eight billion dollars

00:23:04.260 so that wasn't

00:23:05.760 working out too well

00:23:06.640 that was done before

00:23:07.460 me by the way i

00:23:08.240 wouldn't have let it

00:23:09.520 go forward we're

00:23:10.820 canceling the epa's

00:23:11.960 absurd tailpipe

00:23:13.280 emission standards one of

00:23:14.620 the most important

00:23:15.480 things that i've never

00:23:17.260 had a group of people

00:23:19.000 come to me more

00:23:20.000 more powerfully and

00:23:23.160 and really just

00:23:24.340 devastated that they

00:23:25.400 had to do it it was

00:23:26.280 killing them than the 0.96

00:23:27.620 automobile manufacturers 1.00

00:23:29.360 the tailpipe emission

00:23:31.060 standards and i can

00:23:32.780 tell you your people at

00:23:33.900 ford were coming to me

00:23:34.940 all the time and they

00:23:35.840 were saying like please

00:23:38.020 it it it doesn't do

00:23:39.920 anything and it's

00:23:40.620 killing us and it's

00:23:42.280 driving the course through

00:23:43.220 the roof and we

00:23:43.960 revoked biden's

00:23:44.880 emissions waiver for

00:23:45.960 california so that

00:23:47.080 california communists

00:23:49.960 could not regulate the

00:23:51.400 automobile industry and

00:23:52.700 ruin the entire nation of

00:23:54.000 automobiles and they were

00:23:55.980 doing that too but we

00:23:57.760 have that now under

00:23:58.500 control also with your

00:24:00.440 governor who's got much

00:24:02.600 more than he can control

00:24:03.800 now under the new rules

00:24:05.780 being issued today by

00:24:07.040 secretary duffy the

00:24:08.160 department of

00:24:08.740 transportation will

00:24:09.860 rescind the biden fuel

00:24:12.260 economy prices and i hate

00:24:14.940 to say that because they

00:24:15.900 were really not economy

00:24:16.800 they were really uh they

00:24:18.640 were anti-economy they 0.98

00:24:20.820 were they were horrible

00:24:22.340 what they were doing to

00:24:23.280 the costs and actually

00:24:24.760 making the car much worse

00:24:26.060 but these policies forced

00:24:29.160 automakers to build cars

00:24:30.800 using expensive

00:24:31.680 technologies that drove up

00:24:33.240 costs drove up prices and

00:24:35.120 made the car much worse the

00:24:37.200 action is expected to save

00:24:38.720 the typical consumer at

00:24:40.140 least one thousand dollars

00:24:41.420 off the price of a new car

00:24:42.840 and we think substantially

00:24:44.320 more than that

00:24:45.300 senator you you hear him

00:24:47.680 talk about this this is

00:24:49.200 exactly what i think so

00:24:50.340 many americans voted for

00:24:51.600 it's government actually not

00:24:53.960 mandating things it's

00:24:55.260 government getting out of

00:24:56.600 the way of insane

00:24:58.280 regulations to make your

00:24:59.880 life easier just give me a

00:25:02.080 little bit of my freedom

00:25:02.820 back let the private sector

00:25:04.200 do what the private sector

00:25:05.240 does stop putting all this

00:25:07.140 government agenda on top of

00:25:08.820 me and let me do what i

00:25:10.440 want to do if i want to

00:25:11.180 buy an ebay i'll buy an

00:25:12.380 ev but don't force me to

00:25:13.940 do something and don't

00:25:14.580 make these standards so

00:25:15.480 insane that you raise the

00:25:16.940 car the cost of cars the

00:25:18.720 point where i can't even

00:25:19.800 afford a new one

00:25:20.580 it's your choice it should

00:25:22.540 be your choice if you

00:25:23.500 decide you want to go buy

00:25:24.460 a tesla teslas are amazing

00:25:25.900 automobiles you can go do

00:25:27.080 that but if you decide you

00:25:28.520 want to drive your f-150

00:25:29.680 that ought to be your choice

00:25:31.000 too and and and this

00:25:33.180 legislation and what the

00:25:34.360 president did this week

00:25:35.660 benefited consumers

00:25:37.380 lowered prices made cars

00:25:39.000 and trucks a lot cheaper

00:25:40.500 it also made them safer

00:25:42.440 it saved lives it also

00:25:44.520 helped produce jobs

00:25:45.820 thousands and thousands

00:25:46.980 of jobs as billions of

00:25:48.640 dollars are being invested

00:25:49.760 by car manufacturers in the

00:25:51.560 united states we're

00:25:52.400 bringing blue-collar jobs

00:25:53.880 back to america ben here's

00:25:56.660 how here's how i explained it

00:25:58.280 in the oval office standing

00:25:59.800 next to the president give a

00:26:00.860 listen anybody else want to

00:26:02.520 say a few words oh ted i

00:26:04.160 ted i can't believe it

00:26:06.300 i'm easy to miss

00:26:07.540 it's very rare that i would

00:26:09.940 go ahead well mr president i

00:26:13.400 want to congratulate you on

00:26:14.620 behalf of everyone here for

00:26:15.740 the leadership that you're

00:26:16.700 showing and and this is a

00:26:18.260 victory today for consumers

00:26:19.520 this is a victory for

00:26:21.260 affordability your critics like

00:26:22.620 to say the word affordability

00:26:23.900 under joe biden and the

00:26:24.900 democrats they put mandate

00:26:26.700 after mandate after mandate on

00:26:28.480 cars and trucks and they drove

00:26:29.820 the price up thousands and

00:26:31.580 thousands of dollars and with

00:26:33.320 the actions you're taking

00:26:34.480 today and you put on top of

00:26:35.700 that the one big beautiful bill

00:26:37.700 you know most of the senators

00:26:38.760 here on the senate commerce

00:26:39.860 committee and on the commerce

00:26:40.860 committee we work together to

00:26:42.640 zero out the cafe standards we

00:26:44.520 wrote that in the law that the

00:26:46.140 cafe standards went to zero what

00:26:48.780 does that mean it means you can

00:26:50.340 now as a consumer buy the car you

00:26:51.940 want it also means people's lives

00:26:55.240 will be safer because what these

00:26:56.780 regulations did is they forced cars

00:26:59.720 to be more expensive and made a

00:27:01.700 plastic instead of steel to

00:27:03.500 because you had to make them

00:27:04.280 lighter to comply with these

00:27:05.480 standards so you'd get in a wreck 1.00

00:27:06.800 and people would die the result of

00:27:09.040 what you're doing you're literally

00:27:10.280 saving people's lives and you're

00:27:12.520 making it where families can

00:27:13.800 afford to get a new car these

00:27:15.940 actions will drop the cost of cars

00:27:17.860 and trucks thousands of dollars

00:27:19.780 that's makes a real difference and

00:27:21.600 i'll make one final point you know

00:27:22.940 about half the members here are car

00:27:24.220 dealers and i will say my good

00:27:26.840 friend roger williams out in the

00:27:28.240 lobby he tried to sell me a car

00:27:29.680 which didn't surprise me but i just

00:27:32.360 just want to give props to mike

00:27:33.880 kelly he showed he was savvier

00:27:35.780 because he tried to sell you a car

00:27:37.040 and you can afford a much nicer car

00:27:38.540 than i can so well done mike roger

00:27:40.940 you just went to the wrong customer

00:27:42.460 i was a hundred dollar cheaper

00:27:44.060 the thing that ted just said it's

00:27:47.060 true plastic instead of steel think

00:27:49.980 of that and people died because of

00:27:52.260 that the plastic was plastic in an

00:27:55.580 auto accident that it broke up and

00:27:57.760 people were shattered because of that

00:27:59.720 crazy deal but that's it's a really

00:28:02.900 good point and mr president i'll tell

00:28:04.900 you senate commerce committee on

00:28:06.620 january 14th we're going to have a

00:28:08.400 hearing with all the big three there

00:28:10.760 and tesla and the entire hearing is

00:28:12.720 going to focus on how your leadership

00:28:15.220 has reduced the burdens on car makers

00:28:17.640 that's lowering costs that's giving

00:28:19.420 consumers more choices and it's

00:28:21.420 producing more jobs in america and

00:28:23.480 it's highlighted that's a real record

00:28:24.880 of success not only is it a record of

00:28:26.720 success but as you mentioned there and

00:28:28.640 highlighted and the president agreed

00:28:30.240 with you it's an issue of safety

00:28:31.880 senator yeah yeah no i mean it it's

00:28:34.360 these cafe standards were making cars

00:28:37.720 much much more dangerous and we'll

00:28:40.160 never know who but but there are people

00:28:42.360 who will live now because of this change

00:28:46.240 because they'll be able to be in safer

00:28:48.020 cars some of it is they may be able to

00:28:51.060 afford a new car now because as this

00:28:52.820 drives down the the the price of new

00:28:55.200 cars and new trucks they may sell their

00:28:57.760 old used car and buy a new car because

00:28:59.900 it makes it more affordable new cars

00:29:02.000 typically have more safety features and

00:29:03.900 enhance their safety but secondly if

00:29:06.500 you're not having to make these cars and

00:29:08.680 remove all the steel you're much more

00:29:10.520 likely to survive an accident if you're

00:29:12.680 in a car that has some weight has some

00:29:14.420 steel and doesn't just crumple up like

00:29:16.860 like like a beer can as always thank

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