Verdict with Ted Cruz - December 06, 2025


Unvetted & Unchecked brings Disaster, Fear vs. Future on AI plus CAFE Standards not so Cozy Week In Review


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29 minutes

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00:00:00.000 This is an iHeart Podcast.
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00:00:05.240 Welcome, it is Verdict with Ted Cruz.
00:00:07.360 Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson with you.
00:00:09.340 And these are the stories you may have missed
00:00:11.280 that we talked about this week.
00:00:12.960 First up, a big story coming out of Washington, D.C.
00:00:16.580 National Guardsmen that were shot, one of them killed.
00:00:19.800 And what we now know is the media
00:00:21.260 wanted to blame Donald Trump for this.
00:00:23.960 Well, they now have had a massive backfire
00:00:26.980 as we're learning that this was clearly
00:00:29.120 lack of vetting done and warnings that were there
00:00:32.800 by the Biden administration
00:00:34.220 that they were letting people in this country
00:00:36.520 that could be a threat to all of us.
00:00:38.420 I'll have all those details for you in just a moment.
00:00:41.660 We're also joined by Scott Jennings.
00:00:44.140 You know him from CNN.
00:00:45.860 He's talking about his new book and also AI.
00:00:49.120 And what you need to know, it's really incredible.
00:00:51.920 And finally, a massive win
00:00:54.320 for the President of the United States of America
00:00:56.020 telling Americans,
00:00:57.260 Friends, I want to get out of your car.
00:01:00.940 Cafe standards are now changing and going backwards.
00:01:04.700 And what does that mean?
00:01:05.840 A car that you can buy is going to be a lot lower priced.
00:01:09.920 It's the Weekend Review, and it starts right now.
00:01:12.800 The media is trying to say
00:01:15.920 that these National Guardsmen that got shot,
00:01:18.680 one of them has died.
00:01:19.680 It's the time we are doing this.
00:01:21.800 It happened, they're trying to say,
00:01:23.500 because of Donald Trump rewriting the history
00:01:25.880 and the warnings going back to,
00:01:27.480 as we just played there,
00:01:28.220 from September of 2021
00:01:29.620 on this exact thing happening in reality.
00:01:33.320 Yeah, at the same time,
00:01:34.460 I wrote an op-ed in Fox News
00:01:35.900 where I said,
00:01:36.540 unfortunately, I believe we will see
00:01:38.280 American blood spilled
00:01:39.800 because of these foolish mistakes.
00:01:42.340 And I went on to say,
00:01:43.980 the truth is that the Taliban
00:01:45.140 doesn't want to be welcomed
00:01:46.480 into the community of civilized nations.
00:01:48.720 They are vicious terrorists
00:01:50.000 who want to kill us.
00:01:52.360 Unfortunately, because of the catastrophic mistakes
00:01:54.640 the Biden administration made in Afghanistan,
00:01:57.180 we are much more at risk
00:01:58.820 for deadly attacks by the Taliban or Al-Qaeda,
00:02:01.940 which Pentagon officials estimate
00:02:03.760 could regroup in Afghanistan
00:02:05.220 in the next year or two.
00:02:06.440 It's a disgrace.
00:02:07.980 And the fault lies directly
00:02:09.860 with President Joe Biden
00:02:11.060 and his administration.
00:02:12.600 This was obvious at the time.
00:02:15.000 And look, you heard on that clip
00:02:17.120 in September 21,
00:02:18.100 I'm talking about seeing
00:02:19.360 the Donna Anna tent facility.
00:02:23.060 When I showed up there,
00:02:24.220 I was like,
00:02:24.660 well, are there any fences around it?
00:02:26.340 No.
00:02:27.420 Is there any barrier?
00:02:28.580 They're like, no, no,
00:02:29.060 this is not a prison facility.
00:02:30.540 And it was a one-star general
00:02:32.180 who was taking me around
00:02:33.080 in the helicopter.
00:02:33.640 And I'm like, well,
00:02:35.600 you know, what happens?
00:02:37.020 You're saying anyone can leave?
00:02:38.380 He's like, yeah, they're not detained.
00:02:39.860 This is just,
00:02:40.400 we're just offering them housing.
00:02:41.580 Think of this like an apartment complex.
00:02:43.020 They can stay here if they want.
00:02:45.480 Or if they want to go somewhere else.
00:02:47.520 They can go.
00:02:48.060 If they want to disappear.
00:02:48.580 They can go somewhere else.
00:02:49.080 They can disappear.
00:02:50.480 Yeah.
00:02:50.740 And I asked the army,
00:02:51.700 are y'all doing any vetting here?
00:02:53.040 They said, no, no, no.
00:02:53.740 The State Department does that in Afghanistan.
00:02:55.520 So it's all done before they get there.
00:02:57.880 So they got 10,000 people there.
00:02:59.660 And who knows where they went?
00:03:01.320 They don't keep a record of them.
00:03:03.360 They don't ask, where do you go?
00:03:05.980 I mean, that's part of the infuriating problem
00:03:08.680 that the Biden administration
00:03:11.700 invited into this country.
00:03:15.160 Islamists, terrorists,
00:03:16.800 who explicitly want to murder us.
00:03:18.720 And by the way,
00:03:19.940 you know what is unbelievable?
00:03:22.320 It is the shooting
00:03:23.660 in DC was one of two
00:03:27.680 Afghans who were arrested this week
00:03:31.880 for threatening violence.
00:03:33.520 Another one happened in Texas.
00:03:36.580 Here's one report from Breitbart.
00:03:38.220 An Afghan national admitted to the United States
00:03:41.420 under President Biden's Operation Allies
00:03:43.780 Welcome Resettlement Program
00:03:45.420 was arrested this week
00:03:47.140 after posting a TikTok video
00:03:49.440 in which he appeared to be building a bomb
00:03:52.120 and referenced Fort Worth as a target
00:03:55.220 according to the Department of Homeland Security.
00:03:57.640 Department of Homeland Security
00:03:58.760 Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin
00:04:00.480 reported the arrest of Mohamed Dawoud Alokaze
00:04:03.780 saying he allegedly posted a video on TikTok
00:04:07.140 threatening to blow up a building
00:04:08.680 in Fort Worth, Texas with a bomb.
00:04:11.520 The Texas Department of Public Safety
00:04:13.480 and the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force
00:04:15.620 teamed up to make the arrest
00:04:17.220 on charges of making terroristic threats.
00:04:19.940 This is happening
00:04:21.840 and by the way, it continues to be
00:04:23.500 Alokaze is an Afghan national
00:04:26.880 who was pardoned into the United States
00:04:29.020 by the Biden administration.
00:04:31.040 His arrest came one day prior
00:04:32.860 to the vicious attack
00:04:33.900 on two West Virginia National Guard soldiers
00:04:35.880 in Washington, D.C.
00:04:37.340 by another Afghan national.
00:04:39.460 This pattern
00:04:40.680 when you let people in
00:04:42.680 you don't vet them
00:04:43.800 this violence and this terrorism
00:04:46.280 is predictable
00:04:47.280 and you had a combination of
00:04:49.680 A, for four years
00:04:50.680 an open southern border
00:04:51.680 so any Hamas or Hezbollah
00:04:53.000 or other terrorists
00:04:53.720 could come in through the southern border.
00:04:55.400 You combine
00:04:56.700 what we're witnessing now
00:04:58.360 with what you just mentioned
00:04:59.600 Senator, at the southern border.
00:05:01.220 We knew for a fact
00:05:03.680 that people on the terrorist watch list
00:05:06.160 were coming across our southern border
00:05:07.820 the same border
00:05:08.640 that when Texas tried to secure it
00:05:10.440 the federal government said
00:05:11.440 no, no, we're going to use forklifts
00:05:12.600 to raise up the bob wire
00:05:13.940 to let more people in.
00:05:15.120 We have that on video.
00:05:15.960 We talked about that on Verdict.
00:05:17.780 They knew that people
00:05:18.720 were getting on the terrorist watch list
00:05:20.120 people that wanted to kill Americans
00:05:22.000 they knew there was a real threat
00:05:23.700 of sleeper cells in this country
00:05:25.880 coming from multiple places
00:05:27.380 around the world
00:05:27.780 and there still is
00:05:28.940 Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Shabaab
00:05:29.860 exactly, still is
00:05:31.040 and you combine that with this
00:05:33.720 and you sit there
00:05:34.540 and you go
00:05:34.880 basically they said
00:05:35.920 look, we know people are going to die
00:05:37.140 but we want an open border
00:05:38.540 we know terrorists are coming in
00:05:40.100 we know they're on the watch list
00:05:41.220 we know we're catching some of them
00:05:42.520 there's a lot of gotaways
00:05:43.360 that we don't catch
00:05:44.100 this is just the cost of doing business
00:05:46.300 there will be human carnage
00:05:47.640 of American citizens
00:05:48.940 the abuse of children
00:05:49.940 the rape of children
00:05:50.880 the sex trafficking of children
00:05:52.480 there will be murderers
00:05:53.740 and all sorts of people
00:05:55.440 in this country
00:05:56.440 we know that
00:05:57.620 it's worth it
00:05:58.960 to flood America
00:05:59.900 with illegal immigrants
00:06:00.860 that was a calculated decision
00:06:03.100 they made
00:06:03.700 it was
00:06:05.740 and the two occurred simultaneously
00:06:07.000 so on one
00:06:08.100 on the one hand
00:06:09.640 they're opening the southern border
00:06:10.780 and letting anyone come in
00:06:12.160 but on the other hand
00:06:13.460 they're affirmatively flying
00:06:15.340 tens of thousands of Afghans
00:06:17.720 and by the way
00:06:18.040 we don't have any firm numbers
00:06:19.140 in terms of how many
00:06:19.940 they brought in
00:06:20.600 in terms of vetting
00:06:22.040 you know
00:06:22.840 you don't have anyone
00:06:24.100 from the Biden administration
00:06:25.100 saying
00:06:25.560 oh yeah
00:06:26.060 we thoroughly vetted this guy
00:06:27.740 before we brought him here
00:06:28.820 because their view was
00:06:30.400 there was nothing to vet
00:06:31.440 if they're bringing
00:06:33.980 a 50 year old dude
00:06:35.520 with an 8 year old girl
00:06:37.200 that he says is his wife
00:06:38.420 that shows you
00:06:39.880 how utterly incompetent
00:06:41.360 the vetting is
00:06:41.980 that they just didn't care
00:06:43.160 ideologically
00:06:44.180 they believed
00:06:45.920 well their culture
00:06:46.820 apparently it's okay
00:06:47.640 to rape little girls
00:06:48.460 and so they certainly
00:06:50.200 were not asking
00:06:51.160 engaging in the serious vetting
00:06:54.340 and it's difficult
00:06:55.040 look one of the problems
00:06:55.980 with vetting
00:06:56.520 a place like Afghanistan
00:06:57.600 is there are limited records
00:06:59.540 and so that's not an easy task
00:07:01.440 in my view
00:07:02.080 unless you can conclusively
00:07:03.540 determine
00:07:04.040 that this person
00:07:05.000 is not a terror threat
00:07:05.960 we should not be
00:07:06.760 bringing him to America
00:07:07.720 and so
00:07:09.060 but the Biden administration
00:07:12.060 I don't believe
00:07:13.320 was even trying
00:07:14.380 to vet them
00:07:15.060 in any serious way
00:07:16.100 they were just
00:07:17.160 bringing in numbers
00:07:18.000 because this was
00:07:18.680 all about politics
00:07:20.460 rather than the substance
00:07:22.320 of keeping America safe
00:07:23.600 all right Senator
00:07:24.240 I want to go back
00:07:25.000 to a little over
00:07:26.100 a year ago
00:07:27.140 and let's just remind
00:07:28.540 people of the
00:07:29.420 Democratic Party
00:07:30.280 and also how we got
00:07:31.400 to the point
00:07:31.860 that we're at right now
00:07:32.780 well this just shows
00:07:35.160 the overlap
00:07:35.760 we were talking about
00:07:36.580 before that ideologically
00:07:37.980 today's Democrat Party
00:07:39.600 refuses to acknowledge
00:07:41.240 the threat of
00:07:41.860 radical Islamic terrorism
00:07:43.120 refuses to acknowledge
00:07:44.180 radical Islam
00:07:44.940 and that it is
00:07:45.620 fundamentally anti-American
00:07:47.100 and so in April of 24
00:07:49.140 there were protesters
00:07:50.340 in Dearborn, Michigan
00:07:51.560 for the
00:07:53.200 and it was the
00:07:53.940 international
00:07:54.840 Al-Quds Day rally
00:07:56.360 where they began
00:07:57.560 chanting
00:07:58.220 death to America
00:07:59.660 and when that happened
00:08:02.120 so Dearborn, Michigan
00:08:03.740 is in Rashida Tlaib's district
00:08:05.460 she is the member
00:08:06.160 of Congress
00:08:06.640 that represents
00:08:07.460 Dearborn, Michigan
00:08:08.800 you have a rally
00:08:09.980 in her district
00:08:10.600 chanting death
00:08:11.300 to America
00:08:11.840 and Fox News
00:08:12.780 quite reasonably
00:08:13.460 came and asked her
00:08:14.540 if she would condemn that
00:08:16.100 give a watch
00:08:17.600 and give a listen
00:08:18.160 to how she responded
00:08:19.100 Not a great look
00:08:29.760 the mayor condemned it
00:08:31.540 the White House
00:08:32.180 condemned it
00:08:32.880 but what about
00:08:34.040 Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib
00:08:35.600 she repped
00:08:37.120 Dearborn
00:08:37.620 is she okay
00:08:38.820 with her constituents
00:08:39.720 chanting
00:08:40.400 death to America
00:08:41.600 Fox Business correspondent
00:08:43.920 Hillary Vaughn
00:08:44.740 asked her
00:08:45.240 watch
00:08:45.780 Congresswoman Tlaib
00:08:47.960 I don't talk to Fox News
00:08:50.160 at a rally
00:08:50.900 in your district
00:08:51.560 people were chanting
00:08:52.660 death to America
00:08:53.820 do you condemn
00:08:54.800 I do not talk to Fox News
00:08:56.600 but do you condemn
00:08:57.380 chants of death to America
00:08:58.740 I don't talk to people
00:09:00.700 that use racist tropes
00:09:01.920 why can't you just say
00:09:04.600 whether or not
00:09:05.100 you condemn
00:09:05.620 people chanting
00:09:06.400 death to America
00:09:07.000 why are you afraid
00:09:08.060 to talk to Fox
00:09:08.900 Fox News
00:09:09.420 is not
00:09:10.780 not
00:09:11.800 listen
00:09:12.140 using racist tropes
00:09:13.440 towards my community
00:09:14.300 is what Fox News
00:09:16.380 is about
00:09:16.820 and I don't talk
00:09:17.340 to Fox News
00:09:17.880 is death to America
00:09:19.280 racist
00:09:20.140 is chanting
00:09:22.180 death to America
00:09:23.020 racist
00:09:23.460 I'm talking about
00:09:24.020 your guys
00:09:24.400 racist tropes
00:09:25.160 you know
00:09:25.920 you guys are
00:09:26.400 you guys know
00:09:26.940 exactly what you do
00:09:27.820 I know you're
00:09:28.880 Islamophobic
00:09:29.480 but you guys
00:09:30.420 gotta go deal
00:09:31.020 with it
00:09:31.320 on your own self
00:09:32.000 you're not gonna
00:09:32.360 use me
00:09:32.880 alright Senator
00:09:34.520 you go back to that
00:09:35.500 and it's just
00:09:36.500 one of those moments
00:09:37.580 where
00:09:38.640 the warning signs
00:09:40.400 are there
00:09:40.860 we tell you
00:09:42.780 that these warning signs
00:09:44.140 are there
00:09:44.800 and then it happens
00:09:46.400 and I hate it
00:09:47.160 that it happens
00:09:47.560 but it's so
00:09:48.300 predictable now
00:09:49.520 you know
00:09:51.540 it reminds me
00:09:52.440 when Obama was president
00:09:53.800 John Kerry was
00:09:54.620 secretary of state
00:09:55.500 there was an editorial
00:09:56.340 cartoon
00:09:56.840 and it had the
00:09:57.940 Ayatollah in Iran
00:09:58.880 going
00:09:59.260 death to America
00:10:00.460 and it had
00:10:01.480 John Kerry saying
00:10:02.280 well can we meet you
00:10:03.460 halfway
00:10:03.840 yeah
00:10:04.900 that's the
00:10:06.660 ideological incoherence
00:10:08.500 look
00:10:09.320 when you walk down
00:10:10.480 the halls
00:10:11.100 of Congress
00:10:12.300 and you've been
00:10:13.200 there with me Ben
00:10:14.240 reporters stop you
00:10:15.740 all the time
00:10:16.220 by the way
00:10:16.560 I answer questions
00:10:17.360 from Fox News
00:10:18.040 I answer questions
00:10:18.720 from CNN
00:10:19.160 I answer questions
00:10:19.900 from New York Times
00:10:20.560 I answer questions
00:10:21.340 from every
00:10:22.080 lefty outlet
00:10:23.040 just walking along
00:10:24.200 because if you know
00:10:25.160 what you believe
00:10:25.840 I gotta say
00:10:27.060 that's not
00:10:27.700 a gotcha question
00:10:28.980 it's not a difficult
00:10:30.040 question
00:10:30.380 do you support
00:10:32.240 death to America
00:10:33.860 if you are a member
00:10:35.200 of the United States
00:10:36.200 Congress
00:10:36.720 the Congress
00:10:37.900 of the United States
00:10:38.860 of America
00:10:39.340 one would think
00:10:40.180 it ought to be easy
00:10:41.260 to say yeah
00:10:41.740 of course
00:10:42.060 death to America
00:10:42.640 is wrong
00:10:42.960 I'm against that
00:10:44.020 that should not
00:10:45.620 be difficult
00:10:46.260 for anyone
00:10:47.580 it speaks volumes
00:10:49.800 that Rashida Tlaib
00:10:50.800 was unwilling
00:10:51.640 to even
00:10:52.380 condemn
00:10:53.120 chance of death
00:10:55.020 to America
00:10:55.720 in her own
00:10:56.960 congressional district
00:10:58.060 that shows
00:10:59.360 just how dangerous
00:11:00.260 the ideological
00:11:00.980 rot is
00:11:01.680 and tragically
00:11:02.420 we saw
00:11:03.460 the very real
00:11:04.160 consequences
00:11:04.960 of that ideological
00:11:05.920 rot
00:11:06.460 in letting
00:11:07.560 unvetted
00:11:08.380 Afghan
00:11:09.180 Afghan
00:11:11.240 immigrants
00:11:11.700 into this
00:11:12.240 country
00:11:12.680 one of whom
00:11:13.520 just murdered
00:11:14.460 one D.C.
00:11:15.280 National Guardsman
00:11:16.100 and may have
00:11:16.580 murdered a second
00:11:17.200 we pray
00:11:17.820 that he survives
00:11:19.180 but at this point
00:11:19.940 our prayers are with him
00:11:21.340 because we don't know
00:11:22.040 if he's going to survive
00:11:23.020 the horrific attack
00:11:24.300 now if you want to hear
00:11:25.700 the rest of this
00:11:26.500 conversation
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00:12:00.980 now on to
00:12:03.640 story number two
00:12:04.680 so on AI
00:12:05.840 AI is an issue
00:12:07.120 I care about a lot
00:12:07.960 and I agree
00:12:08.500 with you
00:12:08.940 that we are
00:12:09.460 in a race
00:12:10.160 AI is coming
00:12:11.060 and either
00:12:12.400 the United States
00:12:13.100 is going to win
00:12:13.620 or China is going
00:12:14.200 to win
00:12:14.440 and I think
00:12:15.280 the world
00:12:15.680 is much much
00:12:16.360 worse off
00:12:17.060 if China wins
00:12:17.840 and it's much
00:12:18.340 better off
00:12:18.840 if America wins
00:12:19.600 I will tell you
00:12:21.340 the polling
00:12:22.000 on AI
00:12:22.620 is terrible
00:12:24.060 AI is unpopular
00:12:26.080 in America
00:12:26.560 if you do
00:12:27.100 almost any polling
00:12:28.300 you do
00:12:28.700 it's about
00:12:29.660 70-30
00:12:30.740 people are terrified
00:12:31.660 they're afraid
00:12:32.360 they're going to
00:12:32.700 lose their jobs
00:12:33.440 they don't trust it
00:12:34.420 they're scared of it
00:12:35.340 and I get that
00:12:36.720 and in fact
00:12:37.960 I talk with a lot
00:12:38.800 of the tech leaders
00:12:39.420 and I say
00:12:39.840 look
00:12:40.060 if you don't engage
00:12:41.040 on this issue
00:12:41.740 the easy
00:12:43.280 political outcome
00:12:44.340 every Democrat
00:12:45.080 and a number
00:12:45.860 of Republicans
00:12:46.400 are like
00:12:46.820 AI is horrible
00:12:47.540 we oppose it
00:12:48.320 and that
00:12:49.880 if you look
00:12:50.340 at the polling
00:12:50.780 that's the
00:12:52.280 knee-jerk response
00:12:53.440 I get
00:12:55.800 that fear
00:12:57.540 I understand
00:12:58.480 anytime you have
00:13:00.300 economic dislocation
00:13:01.480 it is frightening
00:13:02.580 it is dangerous
00:13:03.500 but at the end
00:13:05.840 of the day
00:13:06.140 I'm not a Luddite
00:13:06.880 I don't think
00:13:07.460 you can stop
00:13:08.520 technological advancement
00:13:09.900 I'll give you an example
00:13:10.800 if I could right now
00:13:13.060 destroy every cell phone
00:13:14.300 in America
00:13:14.700 I would
00:13:15.200 I think these are
00:13:16.000 evil portals
00:13:17.200 to everything harmful
00:13:18.160 in the world
00:13:18.740 all three of us
00:13:20.580 are parents
00:13:21.160 these things
00:13:22.480 invite
00:13:23.200 every horrible force
00:13:25.240 to our children
00:13:26.140 but we don't live
00:13:28.020 in that world
00:13:28.460 we can't end that
00:13:29.240 I'd also like a world
00:13:30.160 with no nuclear weapons
00:13:31.080 like if I could
00:13:32.020 push a button
00:13:32.860 and every nuclear weapon
00:13:33.720 disappear
00:13:34.060 I would
00:13:34.520 but we don't live
00:13:36.060 in that world
00:13:36.540 and if we're going
00:13:37.000 to live in a world
00:13:37.460 with nuclear weapons
00:13:38.280 I sure as heck
00:13:39.020 want to make sure
00:13:39.580 the United States
00:13:40.260 has enough
00:13:40.840 that China and Russia
00:13:42.120 and our enemies
00:13:42.620 can't dominate us
00:13:43.440 I view AI
00:13:44.140 in the same world
00:13:44.940 even if you don't
00:13:46.480 want it to happen
00:13:47.140 it is coming
00:13:48.260 and one of two
00:13:50.600 outcomes will occur
00:13:52.080 in five to ten years
00:13:53.660 either China
00:13:55.640 will have won the race
00:13:56.640 in which case
00:13:57.260 AI worldwide
00:13:58.260 will reflect China's values
00:13:59.820 will be totalitarian
00:14:00.920 will be controlling
00:14:01.780 will be censoring
00:14:03.140 will reflect the values
00:14:04.320 of communist China
00:14:05.140 or America
00:14:06.220 will have won
00:14:07.240 in which case
00:14:08.460 hopefully AI
00:14:09.160 will reflect
00:14:10.080 American values
00:14:11.120 of freedom
00:14:11.640 free enterprise
00:14:12.460 free speech
00:14:13.200 that is a massive shift
00:14:15.200 between those two worlds
00:14:16.400 world two is much better
00:14:18.000 where America wins
00:14:18.800 two questions
00:14:21.300 number one
00:14:21.800 do you agree with that
00:14:22.740 and number two
00:14:25.200 if so
00:14:27.300 how does the politics change
00:14:29.220 do you agree with my point
00:14:30.220 that right now
00:14:30.860 the politics
00:14:31.500 is against AI
00:14:32.400 and that is
00:14:34.700 dangerous
00:14:35.580 yes I agree
00:14:36.900 first of all
00:14:37.720 in point one
00:14:38.200 I agree with everything
00:14:39.000 you said about
00:14:39.660 which world
00:14:40.140 we want to live in
00:14:40.860 number two
00:14:41.360 I agree with you
00:14:41.980 on the polling
00:14:43.020 and I think people
00:14:43.740 have a healthy fear
00:14:44.860 of how this is going
00:14:45.960 to upend their life
00:14:47.160 quite reasonable
00:14:48.440 which is a reasonable fear
00:14:50.300 and so the next
00:14:51.040 iteration of this
00:14:52.140 march towards AI
00:14:54.500 is going to have to be
00:14:55.440 not how it's going
00:14:56.160 to make your life worse
00:14:57.020 how is it going
00:14:57.440 to make your life better
00:14:58.200 how has any other
00:14:59.680 technological evolution
00:15:00.820 ultimately made your life better
00:15:02.380 and so that explanation
00:15:03.900 has to come
00:15:04.880 and then point four
00:15:06.440 is just going to be
00:15:07.060 how are we going
00:15:07.400 to power it all
00:15:08.100 and you know
00:15:09.980 are we going to be able
00:15:10.520 to produce enough energy
00:15:11.360 to do what we have to do
00:15:12.400 now plus what we have to do
00:15:14.060 AI is energy
00:15:15.140 and if we don't unleash energy
00:15:17.000 we cannot win the race for AI
00:15:18.380 one other issue on this
00:15:19.460 that is on my mind
00:15:20.700 is how are we going to build
00:15:22.080 enough of these data centers
00:15:23.500 to win this thing
00:15:25.260 I'm noticing in local communities
00:15:26.800 in a lot of places
00:15:27.620 folks are like
00:15:28.860 rising up against
00:15:30.180 data center development
00:15:31.060 so the polling is terrible
00:15:32.220 in most communities
00:15:33.380 but I will say by the way
00:15:34.420 one of the few exceptions
00:15:35.460 is sort of West Texas
00:15:36.660 you've got West Texas
00:15:37.740 in the panhandle
00:15:38.440 and you're seeing a ton
00:15:39.240 of data centers
00:15:39.860 come in there
00:15:40.480 and Texans are like
00:15:42.680 alright we want jobs
00:15:43.540 we want investment
00:15:44.260 we want billions in investment
00:15:45.580 and there will be jobs
00:15:46.720 for construction
00:15:47.420 there will be jobs
00:15:47.980 for running the data centers
00:15:49.040 look I think in
00:15:50.640 dense urban areas
00:15:52.100 people are afraid
00:15:53.080 they're afraid
00:15:53.640 it will suck power
00:15:54.760 it will drive up
00:15:55.420 their electricity prices
00:15:56.460 it will suck water
00:15:57.380 and I get those fears
00:15:58.880 look anyone
00:16:00.100 if you're given a choice
00:16:01.820 do you want something
00:16:02.580 that will make your life
00:16:03.520 worse or better
00:16:04.420 people are naturally
00:16:06.280 going to say
00:16:06.620 I don't want something
00:16:07.180 that makes my life worse
00:16:08.040 and so
00:16:09.160 I think
00:16:11.160 I had a guy
00:16:11.660 by the way
00:16:12.040 Senator
00:16:12.260 I had a guy
00:16:12.680 the other day
00:16:13.000 that said to me
00:16:13.460 in the AI industry
00:16:14.400 he said
00:16:14.780 the hardest part
00:16:15.920 for them now
00:16:17.300 is overcoming
00:16:18.260 what you're describing
00:16:19.120 because he said
00:16:19.760 their polling data
00:16:20.880 internally says
00:16:21.660 that the fear
00:16:22.860 in a lot of parts
00:16:23.840 of the country
00:16:24.300 right now
00:16:24.820 are at the level
00:16:26.260 of where they were
00:16:27.080 with nuclear reactors
00:16:28.220 back in the 80s
00:16:29.340 yes
00:16:29.540 interesting
00:16:30.040 and there's been
00:16:31.540 a lot of demagoguery
00:16:32.700 and but there's also
00:16:34.880 the demagoguery is there
00:16:36.920 but I will say
00:16:37.760 the fears of AI
00:16:38.940 are real and justified
00:16:41.720 and and
00:16:42.520 all right look
00:16:44.580 with every great
00:16:45.420 technological change
00:16:46.640 there's been
00:16:47.160 economic dislocation
00:16:48.400 so when the automobile
00:16:49.340 was invented
00:16:50.100 the horse and buggy
00:16:51.640 industry was decimated
00:16:52.620 and if you were
00:16:53.540 in the buggy business
00:16:54.960 you were screwed
00:16:56.560 the difference
00:16:59.220 with AI
00:16:59.800 is twofold
00:17:00.640 number one
00:17:01.220 the volume
00:17:01.820 is greater
00:17:02.360 I think there are
00:17:02.980 going to be
00:17:03.320 more jobs
00:17:04.500 that are going
00:17:05.840 to be threatened
00:17:06.360 by AI
00:17:07.100 than have been
00:17:08.500 in previous
00:17:09.620 technological innovations
00:17:11.020 number two
00:17:12.800 it's a different
00:17:13.360 contour of jobs
00:17:14.580 so often
00:17:16.320 in the past
00:17:17.000 it's been blue collar
00:17:17.880 jobs that have been
00:17:18.780 at risk
00:17:19.340 many of the jobs
00:17:20.980 that are at risk
00:17:21.600 with AI
00:17:22.060 are white collar
00:17:23.220 jobs
00:17:23.720 they're
00:17:24.400 if you look
00:17:25.260 at Mondami
00:17:25.880 part of what
00:17:26.600 elected Mondami
00:17:27.860 is you have
00:17:28.920 young college
00:17:30.620 graduates
00:17:31.120 who have
00:17:32.020 two hundred thousand
00:17:33.060 dollars in college
00:17:33.980 debt
00:17:34.320 who were told
00:17:35.900 I can go
00:17:36.820 and be an investment
00:17:37.620 banker
00:17:38.100 a consultant
00:17:38.780 or an accountant
00:17:39.440 and they're seeing
00:17:40.680 those jobs
00:17:41.400 being eliminated
00:17:42.400 as AI
00:17:43.020 is replacing
00:17:43.880 thousands
00:17:45.260 and thousands
00:17:46.060 of those jobs
00:17:46.880 that's a level
00:17:48.560 of
00:17:48.900 I guess
00:17:50.140 I would call
00:17:50.640 elite discontent
00:17:52.180 that is
00:17:54.660 politically
00:17:56.580 complicated
00:17:57.340 and so
00:17:58.740 and I get
00:18:00.640 those concerns
00:18:01.600 are very real
00:18:02.300 if you've gone
00:18:03.380 and worked hard
00:18:04.000 and you got a degree
00:18:04.740 and you took out
00:18:06.140 loans
00:18:06.620 and you were told
00:18:07.200 this is what
00:18:07.720 I gotta do
00:18:08.300 and then suddenly
00:18:08.840 you come out
00:18:09.360 and you can't
00:18:09.720 get a job
00:18:10.280 you're pissed
00:18:11.620 like that's
00:18:12.840 a very real
00:18:13.520 concern
00:18:13.960 and so I actually
00:18:15.300 think as
00:18:15.840 policy makers
00:18:17.680 as people
00:18:18.200 in elected office
00:18:19.200 we need to have
00:18:20.240 real solutions
00:18:21.060 to that problem
00:18:21.800 because that
00:18:22.380 that discontent
00:18:23.780 is not illegitimate
00:18:25.400 but it is driving
00:18:27.180 much of this resistance
00:18:28.380 and it's a very
00:18:29.460 real battle
00:18:30.000 we've got
00:18:30.400 well and you have
00:18:31.780 now for
00:18:32.420 you know
00:18:32.900 many years
00:18:33.740 people
00:18:34.480 teaching their children
00:18:36.160 here's the course
00:18:36.900 you gotta get on
00:18:37.620 do well in school
00:18:38.520 go to college
00:18:39.240 you can get
00:18:39.780 one of these
00:18:40.260 white collar jobs
00:18:41.380 and you know
00:18:42.580 for you know
00:18:43.420 a few generations
00:18:44.000 we've been telling
00:18:44.540 people this is the
00:18:45.280 path
00:18:45.560 it may not be
00:18:46.500 the path anymore
00:18:47.800 we're gonna have
00:18:48.240 to reorient
00:18:48.900 how we're
00:18:49.620 educating kids
00:18:50.740 what we're
00:18:52.080 teaching them to do
00:18:52.800 what other skills
00:18:53.540 can we teach them
00:18:54.280 to do
00:18:54.580 I agree with you
00:18:55.120 on the
00:18:55.480 white collar
00:18:56.300 versus blue
00:18:57.140 collar issue
00:18:57.620 also creatives
00:18:58.460 I mean
00:18:59.000 they're freaked out
00:19:01.240 I've seen AI
00:19:02.100 apps in a matter
00:19:03.280 of seconds
00:19:03.840 write songs
00:19:04.620 that sounded like
00:19:05.480 they had a whole
00:19:06.280 team of musicians
00:19:07.320 and writers
00:19:07.880 over weeks
00:19:08.600 putting them
00:19:09.000 together
00:19:09.300 in California
00:19:10.640 and it literally
00:19:11.580 happened on my
00:19:12.160 phone
00:19:12.420 in a matter
00:19:12.800 of seconds
00:19:13.340 by the way
00:19:13.760 I'll tell you
00:19:14.260 in politics
00:19:14.820 it's interesting
00:19:15.500 I'll pull up AI
00:19:16.400 and I'll ask
00:19:17.920 something like
00:19:18.680 what has Cruz
00:19:20.280 said on the
00:19:21.040 following issue
00:19:21.760 and listen
00:19:22.340 I've been doing
00:19:22.760 this a long time
00:19:23.480 so I don't
00:19:23.880 remember every
00:19:24.540 comment I've
00:19:25.140 given in every
00:19:25.680 newspaper interview
00:19:26.600 10 years ago
00:19:27.460 and in like
00:19:28.680 four seconds
00:19:29.640 it comes out
00:19:30.540 with he said
00:19:31.320 this here
00:19:31.720 he said this
00:19:32.180 here
00:19:32.340 and it like
00:19:32.740 traces
00:19:33.460 and it's
00:19:34.200 like
00:19:34.460 it's insane
00:19:36.140 it is insane
00:19:38.080 the ability
00:19:38.980 of power
00:19:39.520 you have
00:19:39.920 on your
00:19:40.180 cell phone
00:19:40.540 oh yeah
00:19:41.600 I mean
00:19:42.100 and it's
00:19:42.960 basically
00:19:43.320 free
00:19:43.700 I mean
00:19:44.520 information
00:19:45.180 for the
00:19:46.520 first time
00:19:47.000 in human
00:19:47.420 history
00:19:47.700 is basically
00:19:48.540 accessible
00:19:49.520 to all
00:19:50.040 and free
00:19:50.500 to all
00:19:50.940 and instant
00:19:51.520 and yeah
00:19:52.920 it's
00:19:53.420 I can see
00:19:54.280 why the
00:19:54.600 polling on
00:19:55.020 this is bad
00:19:55.600 now
00:19:55.840 the positive
00:19:57.900 outlook here
00:19:58.500 is how can
00:19:59.240 we use
00:19:59.540 these tools
00:20:00.100 to make
00:20:00.620 your life
00:20:00.960 easier
00:20:01.360 make you
00:20:01.780 more productive
00:20:02.340 and maybe
00:20:03.440 make you
00:20:03.880 more economically
00:20:04.460 successful
00:20:05.080 maybe you
00:20:05.480 haven't conceived
00:20:06.100 of how that
00:20:06.580 will work
00:20:06.980 yet
00:20:07.200 but that's
00:20:08.260 the challenge
00:20:08.840 of these
00:20:09.080 companies that
00:20:09.600 are developing
00:20:10.000 the technology
00:20:10.480 as before
00:20:11.540 if you want
00:20:12.160 to hear
00:20:12.360 the rest
00:20:12.720 of this
00:20:12.940 conversation
00:20:13.600 on this
00:20:14.340 topic
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00:20:51.940 to the
00:20:52.260 big story
00:20:53.140 number
00:20:53.400 three
00:20:53.680 of the
00:20:53.880 week
00:20:54.080 you may
00:20:54.380 have
00:20:54.520 missed
00:20:54.860 senator
00:20:55.680 on
00:20:55.880 wednesday
00:20:56.280 you were
00:20:57.000 at the
00:20:57.280 white house
00:20:57.800 for a
00:20:58.420 really cool
00:20:58.960 moment
00:20:59.360 and that
00:20:59.940 was
00:21:00.360 president
00:21:01.260 trump
00:21:01.580 saying
00:21:01.960 i want
00:21:02.540 government
00:21:02.860 to get
00:21:03.260 out of
00:21:03.800 your way
00:21:04.240 and stop
00:21:04.820 making
00:21:05.160 things so
00:21:05.700 expensive
00:21:06.140 for you
00:21:06.640 specifically
00:21:07.180 cars
00:21:07.920 having a
00:21:08.840 reset
00:21:09.200 of cafe
00:21:09.720 standards
00:21:10.220 that were
00:21:10.540 out of
00:21:10.860 control
00:21:11.460 that is
00:21:12.400 going to
00:21:12.620 lower
00:21:12.780 the cost
00:21:13.280 of cars
00:21:13.800 for many
00:21:14.400 americans
00:21:14.960 we're also
00:21:15.360 getting rid
00:21:15.820 of the
00:21:16.040 obsession
00:21:16.520 with a
00:21:16.880 mandate
00:21:17.200 for EV
00:21:17.720 vehicles
00:21:18.240 which the
00:21:19.080 democrats
00:21:19.600 were hell
00:21:20.220 bent on
00:21:21.040 and this
00:21:22.160 is going
00:21:22.600 to again
00:21:22.980 make cars
00:21:23.880 more affordable
00:21:24.700 for americans
00:21:25.580 everyone should
00:21:26.520 be excited
00:21:26.980 about that
00:21:27.580 well that's
00:21:28.340 exactly right
00:21:29.120 after spending
00:21:29.760 monday at the
00:21:30.380 white house
00:21:30.780 with the
00:21:31.060 president
00:21:31.420 while he
00:21:31.740 was signing
00:21:32.120 my legislation
00:21:32.940 tripling
00:21:33.580 the monthly
00:21:34.960 stipend for
00:21:35.760 medal of
00:21:36.100 honor recipients
00:21:36.740 after spending
00:21:37.540 tuesday at the
00:21:38.300 white house
00:21:38.800 with the
00:21:39.120 president
00:21:39.480 and michael
00:21:39.980 and susan
00:21:40.620 dell giving
00:21:41.200 six and a
00:21:41.760 quarter billion
00:21:42.380 dollars to
00:21:43.320 the kids
00:21:43.740 of america
00:21:44.280 for trump
00:21:44.700 accounts
00:21:45.160 on wednesday
00:21:46.420 i joined the
00:21:47.120 president again
00:21:47.920 this time
00:21:48.540 with the
00:21:48.880 ceos of
00:21:49.600 the major
00:21:49.980 auto
00:21:50.280 companies
00:21:50.680 in the
00:21:50.920 united
00:21:51.180 states
00:21:51.660 as the
00:21:52.500 president
00:21:52.940 was
00:21:53.240 implementing
00:21:53.960 legislation
00:21:55.940 a provision
00:21:56.640 again that
00:21:57.220 i wrote
00:21:57.760 zeroing out
00:21:59.240 the cafe
00:21:59.760 standards
00:22:00.340 the cafe
00:22:00.860 standards
00:22:01.580 were the
00:22:02.760 federal
00:22:03.140 mileage
00:22:03.720 requirements
00:22:04.400 that the
00:22:04.760 biden
00:22:05.060 administration
00:22:05.600 used
00:22:06.520 to jack
00:22:07.440 them up
00:22:07.820 so high
00:22:08.540 that it
00:22:08.860 number one
00:22:09.400 made cars
00:22:09.980 much much
00:22:10.440 more expensive
00:22:11.180 but number
00:22:12.100 two it was
00:22:13.020 part of their
00:22:13.680 effort to
00:22:14.340 eliminate the
00:22:15.540 internal combustion
00:22:16.200 engine
00:22:16.580 to force
00:22:17.060 everyone
00:22:17.580 to buy
00:22:18.480 an electric
00:22:18.920 car
00:22:19.260 whether they
00:22:19.700 want it
00:22:20.080 or not
00:22:20.540 and and
00:22:21.580 as part of
00:22:22.480 the one big
00:22:23.020 beautiful bill
00:22:23.900 we zeroed that
00:22:24.800 out entirely
00:22:25.400 i wrote that
00:22:26.180 provision
00:22:26.660 and and on
00:22:27.840 wednesday the
00:22:28.720 president was
00:22:29.380 implementing it
00:22:30.240 here i want you to
00:22:31.040 give a listen to
00:22:31.620 the president
00:22:32.060 describing the
00:22:32.920 historic steps
00:22:33.720 he took on
00:22:34.300 wednesday
00:22:34.680 from day one
00:22:36.080 i've been taking
00:22:36.820 action to make
00:22:37.520 buying a car
00:22:38.160 more affordable
00:22:38.800 i signed an
00:22:39.720 executive order
00:22:40.460 to end the
00:22:41.320 unfair expensive
00:22:42.360 electric vehicle
00:22:44.100 mandate as you
00:22:44.960 know we had to
00:22:45.660 have an electric
00:22:46.860 car within a
00:22:47.600 very short period
00:22:48.240 of time even
00:22:49.180 though you there
00:22:49.840 was no way of
00:22:50.400 charging them and
00:22:51.260 lots of other
00:22:51.880 things would have
00:22:52.540 cost five trillion
00:22:54.280 dollars to build
00:22:55.100 the charging plants
00:22:56.080 and as you know in
00:22:58.120 certain parts of the
00:22:59.020 midwest they spent
00:22:59.960 to build nine
00:23:01.280 chargers they spent
00:23:03.060 eight billion dollars
00:23:04.260 so that wasn't
00:23:05.760 working out too well
00:23:06.640 that was done before
00:23:07.460 me by the way i
00:23:08.240 wouldn't have let it
00:23:09.520 go forward we're
00:23:10.820 canceling the epa's
00:23:11.960 absurd tailpipe
00:23:13.280 emission standards one of
00:23:14.620 the most important
00:23:15.480 things that i've never
00:23:17.260 had a group of people
00:23:19.000 come to me more
00:23:20.000 more powerfully and
00:23:23.160 and really just
00:23:24.340 devastated that they
00:23:25.400 had to do it it was
00:23:26.280 killing them than the
00:23:27.620 automobile manufacturers
00:23:29.360 the tailpipe emission
00:23:31.060 standards and i can
00:23:32.780 tell you your people at
00:23:33.900 ford were coming to me
00:23:34.940 all the time and they
00:23:35.840 were saying like please
00:23:38.020 it it it doesn't do
00:23:39.920 anything and it's
00:23:40.620 killing us and it's
00:23:42.280 driving the course through
00:23:43.220 the roof and we
00:23:43.960 revoked biden's
00:23:44.880 emissions waiver for
00:23:45.960 california so that
00:23:47.080 california communists
00:23:49.960 could not regulate the
00:23:51.400 automobile industry and
00:23:52.700 ruin the entire nation of
00:23:54.000 automobiles and they were
00:23:55.980 doing that too but we
00:23:57.760 have that now under
00:23:58.500 control also with your
00:24:00.440 governor who's got much
00:24:02.600 more than he can control
00:24:03.800 now under the new rules
00:24:05.780 being issued today by
00:24:07.040 secretary duffy the
00:24:08.160 department of
00:24:08.740 transportation will
00:24:09.860 rescind the biden fuel
00:24:12.260 economy prices and i hate
00:24:14.940 to say that because they
00:24:15.900 were really not economy
00:24:16.800 they were really uh they
00:24:18.640 were anti-economy they
00:24:20.820 were they were horrible
00:24:22.340 what they were doing to
00:24:23.280 the costs and actually
00:24:24.760 making the car much worse
00:24:26.060 but these policies forced
00:24:29.160 automakers to build cars
00:24:30.800 using expensive
00:24:31.680 technologies that drove up
00:24:33.240 costs drove up prices and
00:24:35.120 made the car much worse the
00:24:37.200 action is expected to save
00:24:38.720 the typical consumer at
00:24:40.140 least one thousand dollars
00:24:41.420 off the price of a new car
00:24:42.840 and we think substantially
00:24:44.320 more than that
00:24:45.300 senator you you hear him
00:24:47.680 talk about this this is
00:24:49.200 exactly what i think so
00:24:50.340 many americans voted for
00:24:51.600 it's government actually not
00:24:53.960 mandating things it's
00:24:55.260 government getting out of
00:24:56.600 the way of insane
00:24:58.280 regulations to make your
00:24:59.880 life easier just give me a
00:25:02.080 little bit of my freedom
00:25:02.820 back let the private sector
00:25:04.200 do what the private sector
00:25:05.240 does stop putting all this
00:25:07.140 government agenda on top of
00:25:08.820 me and let me do what i
00:25:10.440 want to do if i want to
00:25:11.180 buy an ebay i'll buy an
00:25:12.380 ev but don't force me to
00:25:13.940 do something and don't
00:25:14.580 make these standards so
00:25:15.480 insane that you raise the
00:25:16.940 car the cost of cars the
00:25:18.720 point where i can't even
00:25:19.800 afford a new one
00:25:20.580 it's your choice it should
00:25:22.540 be your choice if you
00:25:23.500 decide you want to go buy
00:25:24.460 a tesla teslas are amazing
00:25:25.900 automobiles you can go do
00:25:27.080 that but if you decide you
00:25:28.520 want to drive your f-150
00:25:29.680 that ought to be your choice
00:25:31.000 too and and and this
00:25:33.180 legislation and what the
00:25:34.360 president did this week
00:25:35.660 benefited consumers
00:25:37.380 lowered prices made cars
00:25:39.000 and trucks a lot cheaper
00:25:40.500 it also made them safer
00:25:42.440 it saved lives it also
00:25:44.520 helped produce jobs
00:25:45.820 thousands and thousands
00:25:46.980 of jobs as billions of
00:25:48.640 dollars are being invested
00:25:49.760 by car manufacturers in the
00:25:51.560 united states we're
00:25:52.400 bringing blue-collar jobs
00:25:53.880 back to america ben here's
00:25:56.660 how here's how i explained it
00:25:58.280 in the oval office standing
00:25:59.800 next to the president give a
00:26:00.860 listen anybody else want to
00:26:02.520 say a few words oh ted i
00:26:04.160 ted i can't believe it
00:26:06.300 i'm easy to miss
00:26:07.540 it's very rare that i would
00:26:09.940 go ahead well mr president i
00:26:13.400 want to congratulate you on
00:26:14.620 behalf of everyone here for
00:26:15.740 the leadership that you're
00:26:16.700 showing and and this is a
00:26:18.260 victory today for consumers
00:26:19.520 this is a victory for
00:26:21.260 affordability your critics like
00:26:22.620 to say the word affordability
00:26:23.900 under joe biden and the
00:26:24.900 democrats they put mandate
00:26:26.700 after mandate after mandate on
00:26:28.480 cars and trucks and they drove
00:26:29.820 the price up thousands and
00:26:31.580 thousands of dollars and with
00:26:33.320 the actions you're taking
00:26:34.480 today and you put on top of
00:26:35.700 that the one big beautiful bill
00:26:37.700 you know most of the senators
00:26:38.760 here on the senate commerce
00:26:39.860 committee and on the commerce
00:26:40.860 committee we work together to
00:26:42.640 zero out the cafe standards we
00:26:44.520 wrote that in the law that the
00:26:46.140 cafe standards went to zero what
00:26:48.780 does that mean it means you can
00:26:50.340 now as a consumer buy the car you
00:26:51.940 want it also means people's lives
00:26:55.240 will be safer because what these
00:26:56.780 regulations did is they forced cars
00:26:59.720 to be more expensive and made a
00:27:01.700 plastic instead of steel to
00:27:03.500 because you had to make them
00:27:04.280 lighter to comply with these
00:27:05.480 standards so you'd get in a wreck
00:27:06.800 and people would die the result of
00:27:09.040 what you're doing you're literally
00:27:10.280 saving people's lives and you're
00:27:12.520 making it where families can
00:27:13.800 afford to get a new car these
00:27:15.940 actions will drop the cost of cars
00:27:17.860 and trucks thousands of dollars
00:27:19.780 that's makes a real difference and
00:27:21.600 i'll make one final point you know
00:27:22.940 about half the members here are car
00:27:24.220 dealers and i will say my good
00:27:26.840 friend roger williams out in the
00:27:28.240 lobby he tried to sell me a car
00:27:29.680 which didn't surprise me but i just
00:27:32.360 just want to give props to mike
00:27:33.880 kelly he showed he was savvier
00:27:35.780 because he tried to sell you a car
00:27:37.040 and you can afford a much nicer car
00:27:38.540 than i can so well done mike roger
00:27:40.940 you just went to the wrong customer
00:27:42.460 i was a hundred dollar cheaper
00:27:44.060 the thing that ted just said it's
00:27:47.060 true plastic instead of steel think
00:27:49.980 of that and people died because of
00:27:52.260 that the plastic was plastic in an
00:27:55.580 auto accident that it broke up and
00:27:57.760 people were shattered because of that
00:27:59.720 crazy deal but that's it's a really
00:28:02.900 good point and mr president i'll tell
00:28:04.900 you senate commerce committee on
00:28:06.620 january 14th we're going to have a
00:28:08.400 hearing with all the big three there
00:28:10.760 and tesla and the entire hearing is
00:28:12.720 going to focus on how your leadership
00:28:15.220 has reduced the burdens on car makers
00:28:17.640 that's lowering costs that's giving
00:28:19.420 consumers more choices and it's
00:28:21.420 producing more jobs in america and
00:28:23.480 it's highlighted that's a real record
00:28:24.880 of success not only is it a record of
00:28:26.720 success but as you mentioned there and
00:28:28.640 highlighted and the president agreed
00:28:30.240 with you it's an issue of safety
00:28:31.880 senator yeah yeah no i mean it it's
00:28:34.360 these cafe standards were making cars
00:28:37.720 much much more dangerous and we'll
00:28:40.160 never know who but but there are people
00:28:42.360 who will live now because of this change
00:28:46.240 because they'll be able to be in safer
00:28:48.020 cars some of it is they may be able to
00:28:51.060 afford a new car now because as this
00:28:52.820 drives down the the the price of new
00:28:55.200 cars and new trucks they may sell their
00:28:57.760 old used car and buy a new car because
00:28:59.900 it makes it more affordable new cars
00:29:02.000 typically have more safety features and
00:29:03.900 enhance their safety but secondly if
00:29:06.500 you're not having to make these cars and
00:29:08.680 remove all the steel you're much more
00:29:10.520 likely to survive an accident if you're
00:29:12.680 in a car that has some weight has some
00:29:14.420 steel and doesn't just crumple up like
00:29:16.860 like like a beer can as always thank
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