00:03:55.800And I think there's a reasonable prospect that we get a 9-0 decision from the U.S. Supreme Court reversing the Colorado decision
00:04:03.740and making clear that if you don't like Donald Trump, the answer is go beat him at the ballot box,
00:04:09.960not go to your friendly Democrat-in-your-pocket Secretary of State just to pull him off the ballot and prevent the voters from voting for him.
00:04:17.780Which brings us to Maine, and let's talk about Maine's Democratic Secretary of State.
00:06:04.760And she purported to make a definitive determination of what the Constitution, of what the 14th Amendment, Section 3, means, what it holds,
00:06:14.960and make a determination that Donald Trump has engaged in insurrection.
00:07:29.780It is the core premise of our democracy.
00:07:32.500Except if you go back to 2016, Senator, look at what Democrats did.
00:07:37.140They tried to overthrow the will of the people by impeaching Donald Trump using a dossier they knew was created by the Democrats.
00:07:42.640It was paid for by the Democrat National Committee and paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign.
00:07:47.200That's an that's a fact, undisputed fact. We know that now.
00:07:50.820In fact, they were even fined for for misappropriating money with with how they paid for that dossier.
00:07:57.180Democrats that were trying to impeach the president then because they didn't like who the people chose knew they were impeaching the president off of off of basically a story that they created out of thin air.
00:08:07.440So now that didn't work. They move on to phase two, which is all right.
00:08:11.660Well, we can't trust that you're going to pick the candidate that we approve of.
00:08:16.800So we're going to take that candidate off the ballot.
00:08:19.920This seems to be phase two of this juncture now, which is all right.
00:08:52.580I wrote a book called Justice Corrupted, how the left has weaponized the legal system.
00:08:57.180That breaks down in detail how the radical left turned our legal system into an offensive weapon to to try to attack their political opponents and destroy their political opponents.
00:09:09.660And then my latest book that just came out in the last couple of months is called Unwoke, how to defeat cultural Marxism in America.
00:09:16.780And it likewise describes how the cultural Marxist have seized the institutions of our government, the institutions of culture, journalism, education, colleges, K through 12, education, entertainment, sports, science.
00:10:06.020They were certain that Hillary was going to be anointed, was going to be coronated, and they would continue their control, their stranglehold on the federal government.
00:10:16.540When the voters had something different to say about it, when the voters said, no, we don't want that and elected Donald Trump, we saw for four years.
00:10:24.880You want to talk about assaults on democracy.
00:10:26.640We saw, number one, right after the election, multiple Democrats object to the certification of Donald Trump.
00:10:33.880So, by the way, every Democrat, every media person who says it's an insurrection, it's an insurrection, because they objected to the election, ignores the fact that the Democrats had objected in 2001, had objected in 2005, and had objected in 2017.
00:10:49.800Every time a Republican had been elected in the 2000s, Democrats had objected, they'd done the same thing.
00:10:56.060But not only that, and by the way, one of the objectors was Jamie Raskin, ironically, one of the impeachment managers.
00:11:02.500He himself was claiming that it was an insurrection when he had, in fact, objected on the floor of the House to Trump's first election as president.
00:11:13.280But if you look at what the DOJ and the FBI and the CIA and the alphabet soup of federal agencies did when Trump was president, it was an assault on democracy.
00:11:27.640Well, democracy says that the voters get to choose, and the voters elected Donald Trump in 2016.
00:11:33.060But yet the hard partisans who had burrowed into senior career positions at DOJ and the FBI and the rest of the agencies, they hated Trump.
00:11:42.540And they spent four years trying to undermine, trying to attack, trying to destroy the democratically elected president of the United States.
00:11:53.860That is reflecting a contempt for democratic values.
00:11:57.300That is saying, I, the career bureaucrat, know better who the president should be than the pesky voters, and I'm going to abuse my government power to try to destroy the officeholder that the voters elected.
00:12:10.700Well, that angry, hateful lashing out that we saw in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, that we saw with Russia, Russia, Russia, that we saw with the Steele dossier, that we saw with the relentless attack, the newest manifestation is what is happening in Colorado and what is happening in Maine.
00:12:31.300If you look at Colorado, the Colorado Supreme Court has seven members, all Democrats, they've been appointed by Democrat governors in Colorado.
00:12:42.320Interestingly, it was a 4-3 decision from the Colorado Supreme Court.
00:12:46.100The four justices who were in the majority, none of them went to school in Colorado.
00:13:13.260But I got to say, where she and her three other liberal justices are now, it is breathtaking because they are saying, we don't care what the voters want in Colorado.
00:13:27.680The Secretary of State in Maine is saying, I don't care what the voters want in Maine.
00:13:33.320I hate Trump so much, you cannot vote for him.
00:13:37.780That has no precedent in our nation's history.
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00:15:10.820You look at these moving forward and continuing assault on our democracy, it brings me to phase three.
00:15:19.000And you warned about this in your book.
00:15:20.520You alluded to it a second ago, but I want to dive into this more.
00:15:23.620Democrats, if they don't get their way on Election Day, then they try to impeach a conservative.
00:15:27.740Then if another candidate comes out they find threatening, now they're just going to try to take them off the ballot.
00:15:31.740But if that doesn't work and the Supreme Court, you know, shuts it down 9-0 or 8-1 or whatever 7-2, then I think we can all agree, stage three would be, okay, well, the next time we have a chance to pack that court, which is what you warned about in your book, then we're just going to pack the court until we get the votes we need.
00:15:49.440So then we can kick people off ballots anywhere we want to in America.
00:15:52.480Am I crazy to think that's where we're going?
00:15:55.040You're not crazy, and it is exactly where we're going.
00:15:58.100The Democrats, they believe the ends justify the means.
00:16:01.700They have convinced themselves Donald Trump is Hitler.
00:16:03.720And therefore, in order to stop Hitler, anything, anything, anything is justified.
00:16:08.460And destroying norms, destroying the principle that the voters decide elections, that's perfectly okay from their perspective.
00:16:16.920Destroying the rule of law, destroying the Supreme Court.
00:16:19.720Look, you've seen Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice and Democrats in the Senate wage war on the U.S. Supreme Court, trying to delegitimize the court, trying to destroy trust because they don't like the rulings coming from the court.
00:16:45.400Instead, they're willing to do whatever it takes because they're convinced with a messianic zeal.
00:16:53.280It's a zealotry that is reminiscent of the fervor of a religious zealot, of a fanatic.
00:17:04.080It has become their life purpose to hate and attack Donald Trump and to destroy every institution in America, if necessary, to stop Donald Trump.
00:17:15.280When this news broke of Maine's top elected official removing Trump from the 2024 primary ballot, the shocking part was in the devil and the details of the decision on why they decided to do it.
00:17:29.020They, of course, said, oh, well, it was January the 6th, insurrection.
00:17:32.260But they actually cited YouTube videos, which is one of the reasons why to kick them off the ballot.
00:17:38.960And even on CNN, they couldn't get this past their own commentators who said this.
00:18:12.600The complicated part, and where we are going to see this play out in the courts, is who gets to decide and by what process.
00:18:19.900Now, it's important to know, and in the ruling, the secretary of state we just heard from says she's basically following the same legal reasoning as the Colorado Supreme Court did last week.
00:18:28.300And she says in her ruling, if this gets struck down in Colorado, we're out of luck, too.
00:18:32.920So she's basing it on the same legal argument.
00:18:35.100Let me sort of lay out the arguments, both sides.
00:18:36.860And by the way, it's worth saying, we're all theorizing here.
00:19:08.500And I think there's a question there with regard to what Maine did.
00:19:11.440Because if you look at the hearing, and she details this in the ruling, they heard from one fact witness, a law professor.
00:19:18.060She based her ruling on a lot of documents, but also YouTube clips.
00:19:22.640I mean, Senator, also YouTube clips and one witness who is a law professor.
00:19:29.900I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's probably a liberal law professor they found to make the argument.
00:19:35.040And so now that's enough that we can just say, yep, you can't vote for the candidate you want to choose, that the Republican Party chooses because we think he's a threat to the Democratic Party.
00:19:42.880So therefore, you don't have the option like this is the world we live in now in 2024, you know, and it's interesting that that legal commentator on CNN is very liberal.
00:19:53.640But but even he is saying this is ridiculous.
00:19:56.100Look, the text of the 14th Amendment, Section 3, here's what it says.
00:20:00.200It says, quote, no person shall be a senator or representative in Congress or elector, a president and vice president or hold any office, civil or military under the United States or under any state.
00:20:11.660Who, having previously taken an oath as a member of Congress or as an officer of the United States or as a member of any state legislature or as an executive or judicial officer of any state to support the Constitution of the United States shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same or given aid and comfort to the enemies thereof.
00:20:32.300But Congress may, by a vote of two thirds of each house, remove such disability.
00:20:37.140Now, this was passed right in the wake of the Civil War, and it was designed to stop people who had fought in the Confederate Army from from serving in in government office.
00:20:46.900That if you had been part of an army waging war, a civil war, look, at the end of the day, the Civil War killed over six hundred thousand Americans.
00:20:55.640It was a war that waged on for four years.
00:20:58.420It was the bloodiest war in American history.
00:21:00.660And the 14th Amendment concluded if you were a Confederate soldier, you were not going to be a senator, a congressman.
00:21:13.000Now, it is it defies reason, logic and facts to suggest that Donald Trump standing up and giving a speech on January 6th in which he urged people to be peaceful, not to be violent, was somehow equivalent to leading a brigade in the Civil War and and fighting a war.
00:22:48.640He is he is pursuing Jean Valjean and he will not stop no matter what.
00:22:54.580Jack Smith has demonstrated that he is not constrained by the bounds of law.
00:22:59.960When he went after Bob McDonnell, the Republican governor of Virginia, when he indicted him and ended up destroying his political career, that ended up being reversed unanimously by the Supreme Court.
00:23:10.440Nine to nothing, actually eight to nothing, because one of the justices was recused.
00:23:14.480But the fact that it was lawless did not stop Jack Smith.
00:23:34.360Even a rabidly partisan, obsessed prosecutor like Jack Smith, even in an incredibly friendly venue like the District of Columbia with a very left wing judge and with a jury pool that voted 94 percent Democrat.
00:23:49.620Even there, Jack Smith and his team no doubt concluded we don't have the evidence to charge Trump with insurrection.
00:23:58.640Now, what did the main secretary of state say?
00:25:30.760How long could this, how does this play out at the Supreme Court?
00:25:33.540Well, the appeal is already pending at the Supreme Court.
00:25:36.160So last week, last Wednesday, the Colorado Republican Party asked the Supreme Court to overturn the Colorado Supreme Court's decision.
00:25:44.340So that the initial appeal papers have been filed in the interim.
00:25:49.440Trump's name is on the ballot and and in Colorado.
00:25:53.240And that was under the terms of the Colorado Supreme Court decision, which which is it.
00:25:58.640They stayed their own decision pending appeal.
00:26:01.220They recognized the massive consequences of it.
00:26:04.540So the primary in Colorado is on March 5th.
00:26:08.540And so right now, Trump's name is on the March 5th ballot with the appeal filed.
00:26:15.500The court could act exceptionally quickly.
00:26:18.180The court could act in a matter of days or weeks.
00:26:21.680And there are times for emergency appeals that the court schedules a very expedited briefing schedule, schedules, oral arguments and issued a decision.
00:27:15.020There are times where it has briefed and heard argument and issues decisions within a matter of days.
00:27:20.900So it has the ability to move very quickly during Bush versus Gore during those 36 days when we had multiple recounts in Florida.
00:27:29.880As as you'll recall, I was part of the legal team that was litigating Bush versus Gore.
00:27:34.420I was down in Tallahassee representing George W. Bush in those 36 days.
00:27:39.160We went to the U.S. Supreme Court twice.
00:27:41.280And and within that period, briefed out the case, had oral argument and had decisions two different times from the U.S. Supreme Court within those 36 days.
00:27:50.360So when the court wants to, it can move exceptionally fast.
00:27:55.700I would note also that that between the two, look, in terms of the general election, the odds are not great that Colorado is going to be a swing state.
00:28:08.720And Joe Biden won Colorado by about 14 points last time.
00:28:14.400And and so it's it's Colorado is not anticipated to be a swing state in November.
00:28:19.840Maine, interestingly enough, is so Maine has an unusual way of allocating its electoral votes.
00:28:27.180Maine has a total of four electoral votes and two of them go to the winner of the state.
00:28:32.040And then one goes to the winner of one congressional district and another goes to the winner of another congressional district.
00:28:37.320So Maine has two congressional districts.
00:28:39.940What's interesting about that is even though Maine has been a reliably Democrat state in presidential elections for some time,
00:28:48.180one of the two congressional districts in Maine quite regularly will vote for Republicans.
00:28:53.260And so Trump won one electoral vote out of Maine.
00:28:59.320And and that could easily happen again.
00:29:02.800And listen, if this election was close, it could literally come down to that single electoral vote in Maine deciding the outcome.
00:29:11.760And so the decision in Maine is quite consequential.
00:29:15.500It's also consequential going forward.
00:29:18.000Do other states, in particular swing states, make the same determination?
00:29:21.300Do you see bigger states, a Pennsylvania, a Michigan, a Wisconsin?
00:29:26.800Do you see states like that that are very much in play, that very much could go either way?
00:29:32.720Do you see them engage and try to follow this pattern?
00:29:35.780And if these left wing partisans were to succeed in removing Trump from the ballot,
00:29:42.740I think the risk would be very high that you would see other bigger and more consequential swing states following that pattern.
00:29:50.200Now, I don't think that's going to happen because they're not going to succeed.
00:29:53.180And by the way, there's an obvious escalation at some point.
00:29:57.880If the left weaponizes the legal system to such an extent that they try to remove the Republican nominee from the general election ballot,
00:30:06.600you are likely to see red states reciprocate and and try to remove the Democrat nominee from the ballot.
00:30:14.000That this can be a mutually assured destruction, which is one of the reasons I don't think there's any chance the Supreme Court allows this Colorado decision to go into effect
00:30:26.000because it undermines the ability of the voters to choose who they want as president.
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00:32:43.900Go back to our early podcasts last year when the first Trump indictment, when the Alvin Bragg indictment came down.
00:32:52.800You and I went on air, and right after that indictment, I went on this podcast, and I told the podcast viewers, I said, Donald Trump will go up 10 points in the polls as a result of this.
00:33:04.260That was a prediction I made immediately after the indictment came down.
00:33:08.140A week later, Donald Trump was up 10 points in the polls.
00:33:12.120And by the way, he's never come down since.
00:33:13.880If you look at a year ago, the poll numbers had a much more competitive race between Trump and DeSantis a year ago.
00:33:20.760And then the first indictment came, and then the second, and then the third, and then the fourth.
00:33:24.500And Trump's numbers went up and up and up, and everyone else's numbers went down.
00:33:28.500And I think one of the effects is, in a Republican primary, people rallied around Trump.
00:33:33.140Look, when the Colorado Supreme Court decision came down, all of Trump's opponents immediately denounced it, which you had to do it.
00:34:41.900Anytime you're talking with leftists who are arguing and they're trotting out language like,
00:34:48.120we must save democracy, you know, it's a great opportunity to say, oh, save democracy.
00:34:53.660You mean like Colorado, like Maine, like preventing the voters from actually voting for the candidate they want to vote for?
00:34:59.560Explain to me how exactly it's saving democracy to stop the voters from voting for the candidate they want to vote for.
00:35:07.980And I don't know of a leftist who can argue against that other than to just jabber, you know, Trump is evil, Trump is evil, Trump is evil, rather than actually engage in reason and logic.
00:35:19.400And so I'm not convinced this abuse of power will have a massive-ish impact on turnout in November.
00:35:28.200But I do think it helps Trump in the primaries.
00:35:30.660It's going to be a very interesting 2024, obviously.
00:35:35.000We are going to cover it all for you here on Verdict.
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00:36:01.100So thank you for spending time with us on your new year.
00:36:03.560Happy New Year to each and every one of you, Senator.