00:03:51.920He's the stenographer that did the transcript.
00:03:54.840People don't realize a senior level, you know, White House staffer is Jake Sullivan.
00:03:59.620How damning is this evidence and testimony, in essence, whistleblowing from a man that clearly had been there in the room and had been doing this for more than a decade?
00:04:11.480Well, it's extremely concerning on multiple levels.
00:04:14.400On one level, this is a White House official who is sitting on Air Force Two with the vice president and with the individual Jake Sullivan,
00:04:24.340who is right now the national security advisor to Joe Biden, the president.
00:04:28.480He is alleging criminal conduct by both of them.
00:04:33.300On the face of it, that's got that's got real force.
00:04:37.320But you then go to the next step, which is that he raised this to the FBI months ago.
00:04:44.480And he says the FBI hasn't talked to him, hasn't interviewed him, hasn't put him before a grand jury, has had zero interest in what he has to say.
00:04:56.240The last podcast you and I did, we talked about how the FBI is placing undercover agents inside of Catholic churches to spy on Catholics who are people of faith and are religious.
00:05:11.580They've got the time and resources, apparently, to try to infiltrate the Catholic church and try to flip clergy to spy on their parishioners for them.
00:05:22.660But the Biden Department of Justice apparently has zero time to even talk to a 15 year White House veteran alleging criminal conduct.
00:05:39.500And I got to say, look, this reminds me of a lot of the topics we cover on verdict, because in any sane world, this would be on the six o'clock news.
00:05:50.460In any sane world, you wouldn't be hearing about this for the first time right now on this podcast.
00:05:57.280Now, maybe you watched Fox and Friends this week.
00:06:17.820Look, we've talked at length about the Biden Department of Justice under Merrick Garland, and they have leaked that they're investigating Hunter Biden.
00:06:25.640The relevant question has always been, is that investigation to hold Hunter out as a scapegoat and make it about his personal substance abuse issues?
00:06:37.560Or are they willing to examine the corruption that implicates his father?
00:06:41.540The fact that they won't even talk to this witness, it tells you something really powerful, that this is, sadly, an incredibly political Department of Justice that has no interest in even beginning to examine the growing pile of evidence of corruption by the current president of the United States.
00:07:03.140This reminds me, Senator, and I want to play this real quick.
00:07:07.140It reminds me of Tony Bobulinski, when he came out as a whistleblower right before the election.
00:07:13.320And then finally, because he came out as a whistleblower, the FBI said, all right, come on in.
00:07:20.260And they did nothing with what he told them after the fact.
00:07:23.300I'm going to play and just remind people of what Tony Bobulinski had and could verify from Hunter Biden's laptop.
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00:08:50.100Senator Tony Bobulinski, when he sat down and did one of his first big interviews, it wasn't that he was just confirming everything that Hunter Biden did.
00:08:58.120He was confirming who the big guy was.
00:09:00.200He was confirming these business deals with CEFE.
00:09:03.220And he did these interviews because the FBI wasn't doing their job.
00:09:11.080And in that email, James Gilliard goes through intimate detail of what each individual's requests were from a compensation perspective and how the equity in the enterprise would be divvied up.
00:09:39.040And then it has 10 percent for the big guy held by H.
00:09:42.440I 1,000 percent sit here and know that the big guy is referencing Joe Biden.
00:09:49.000It's that's crystal clear to me because I lived it.
00:09:52.080I met with the former vice president in person multiple times.
00:09:55.460And I had been meeting and talking with Hunter Biden and Jim Biden and Rob Walker and James Gilliard.
00:10:01.980Where the media has tried to hide, and I personally feel it's disgusting, is between that May 13th email and the final document that was executed called Oneida Holdings LLC.
00:10:14.860In Oneida Holdings LLC, the equity is broken up 20 percent Hunter Biden, 20 percent Jim Biden.
00:10:24.060Well, there are LLCs that represented them.
00:10:27.62020 percent James Gilliard, 20 percent Rob Walker, and 20 percent me and my investment entity.
00:10:35.400What I'd ask the American people to read and look at is how from May 13th to the final Oneida document that got executed, did Jim Biden go from a 10 percent owner to a 20 percent owner?
00:10:48.400I mean, Senator, these are two people with very clear specifics.
00:10:55.480The FBI agent who was supposed to be his, quote, point of contact, we now know as a disgraced FBI agent who did nothing but actually try to say that this was a smear campaign against the Bidens and to shut it down as disinformation.
00:11:46.900He was sitting on Air Force Two with Joe Biden, with Jake Sullivan.
00:11:51.000And the fact that under Merrick Garland, the Department of Justice has zero interest in hearing this, they're like the three monkeys, hear no evil, see no evil.
00:12:01.600They do say evil, but they don't want to hear or see it.
00:12:06.020And I got to say, it reminds me also of earlier allegations.
00:12:11.920These are not new allegations of corruption and conflict of interest.
00:12:17.620Hunter Biden and Joe Biden had been facing these allegations for a decade.
00:12:22.640And I want to remind you back of questioning that I questioned George Kent.
00:12:32.060George Kent is currently the Biden ambassador to Estonia.
00:12:36.160And George Kent has been a career Foreign Service officer, and he was the U.S. Deputy Chief of Mission in Ukraine from 2015 to 2018.
00:12:48.660Now, George Kent had a moment of fame because he was a witness in Trump's impeachment, and he sat there with his bow tie expressing great dislike for Donald Trump.
00:13:00.540And so the left got all excited about George Kent, but before he became a star witness in Trump's impeachment, George Kent had one brief moment of courage and clarity where he raised directly to the Obama White House his concerns about Hunter Biden's conflict of interest concerning Burisma.
00:13:25.880The exact same topic, by the way, this new whistleblower is talking about, and I got to tell you, the reaction, that committee was chaired by Gene Shaheen, the Democrat from New Hampshire.
00:13:38.700It was a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and she did not want him to answer these questions.
00:13:46.380And so, Ben, I think we're going to play the entire questioning.
00:13:50.700It's extended, but I think it is worth revisiting because, like this whistleblower this week, the corrupt corporate media completely ignored it because if it doesn't fit their political narrative, it does not exist, and they refused to report on it.
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00:14:58.140I want to talk in particular about corruption in the current administration.
00:15:02.500And I have serious concerns about corruption of President Joe Biden that extends for considerable time, both his time as president and his time as vice president.
00:15:12.860To take one obvious and troubling example, accounts linked to the Biden family's personal finances received millions of dollars through ties to CEFC China Energy.
00:15:25.440This is where we get the infamous quote about 10 percent to the big guy from the Chinese communists.
00:15:32.640But you've also been involved very directly with Ukraine and corruption in Ukraine.
00:15:39.080And I will say you showed real courage speaking out against what I think was the very obvious concerns of corruption of Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden, in Ukraine.
00:15:52.800In particular, on November 13th, 2019, you testified to Congress that you had become concerned with Hunter Biden's status as a board member of the Ukrainian natural gas company, Burisma.
00:16:05.980You said you had raised those concerns to the White House in February of 2015.
00:16:10.940And in particular, what you said is I became aware that Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma.
00:16:15.980Soon after that, in a briefing call with the national security staff of the office of the vice president in February of 2015, I raised my concern that Hunter Biden's status as a board member could create a perception of a conflict of interest.
00:16:30.160Tell me, why did you have this concern about, as you described, a perception of a conflict of interest?
00:16:35.000Well, Senator, I can give you and every member of this committee my commitment that I will always raise concerns to members of any administration and to Congress when I have concerns.
00:16:49.760And so I was made aware of information and I passed that along to the staff of the office of the vice president.
00:16:58.280So why were you concerned? Why were you concerned about Hunter Biden being on the board of Burisma?
00:17:02.240The issue at hand was the owner of the company, Zlochevsky, had awarded himself gas contracts.
00:17:10.500And as I testified both in the impeachment hearings and in the Johnson-Grasley hearings of 2020, our concern was about the corrupt acts of Zlochevsky, the ex-minister.
00:17:22.740And the FBI had been pursuing freezing his assets and it was in the interest of the United States to remain at the gold standard of our own actions.
00:17:34.740So the Ukrainian oligarch who owned Burisma, there was very substantial evidence of corruption on his part.
00:17:40.900And he named Hunter Biden to his board of directors.
00:17:44.560To your knowledge, does Hunter Biden speak Ukrainian?
00:17:49.340I've never talked to Hunter Biden, no.
00:17:52.500To your knowledge, did he have any knowledge before serving on that board about anything concerning oil or natural gas?
00:18:01.680To your knowledge, did Hunter Biden have any qualification whatsoever for that board job other than the fact that his daddy was the sitting vice president at the time?
00:18:10.920Senator, no one consulted me about who was on the board of Burisma.
00:18:17.840There was another American, Kofor Black, who was a former...
00:18:43.740I've never served on a corporate board.
00:18:45.500So does that mean, no, you haven't been paid $83,000 a month?
00:18:47.960I have not been paid $83,000 a month, no, sir.
00:18:50.660So, look, the concern here is not Hunter Biden's own problems, but rather it is official corruption from the then vice president of the United States, Joe Biden, and now the president of the United States, Joe Biden.
00:19:02.020Let me ask you, while his son was on the board of Burisma making a million dollars a year, did Joe Biden do anything that benefited the corrupt oligarch who was paying his son a million dollars a year?
00:19:12.960Vice President Biden led our efforts to fight corruption in Ukraine.
00:19:39.720And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev.
00:19:43.600And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion dollar loan guarantee.
00:19:47.680And I'd gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor, the prosecutor that was investigating Burisma.
00:20:28.420Do you think Joe Biden holding a billion dollars hostage to force the Ukrainian government to fire the prosecutor that is investigating the corrupt oligarch who's paying his son a million dollars a year?
00:20:41.480Did getting that prosecutor fired benefit that oligarch?
00:21:32.120The prosecutor who was fired by the Ukrainian parliament did nothing to investigate Slicevsky.
00:21:37.100And everything that Vice President Biden, the State Department and the U.S. Embassy did acted in good faith to reduce corruption and help the Ukrainian people.
00:21:45.540So firing him did not benefit the oligarch.
00:21:48.180I mean, Senator, that is welcome to the Congress, right?
00:21:53.740This is how much the Democrats will jump in to take fire on basic yes or no questions about the Biden corruption because they know how bad it is.
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00:23:32.400Did firing the prosecutor who was investigating the corrupt oligarch who was paying Hunter Biden a million dollars a year, did that benefit the corrupt oligarch?
00:23:59.880But it said it speaks volumes how desperate Shaheen was to get in and say, no, no, no, don't answer, don't answer, don't answer, don't answer with no substantive response.
00:24:12.520By the way, in that hearing, no Democrat senator jumped in and said, oh, the facts are different.
00:24:32.600I thought the Constitution provided that the Senate has advice and consent.
00:24:39.180And it becomes very clear she views her job as protecting the Biden White House from political problems.
00:24:48.000Because if she didn't view it that way, any fair-minded senator would want the answer to that question.
00:24:57.300When you've got a whistleblower who's raised serious concerns about corruption, the Senate ought to be concerned about them.
00:25:08.320But today's Democrat senators, there's not a one of them who's concerned about them because their view is partisanship trumps everything else.
00:25:20.600And I've got to say, part of the reason they can have that attitude is the rabid partisanship of the media.
00:25:28.640Listen, if you're a Democrat senator and you hear this Q&A, in a normal world where you have a media reporting on what happens, you'd be a little reluctant to jump in and seem like you're eager to cover up the wrongdoing.
00:25:45.440That is not a good look, to put it mildly.
00:25:48.920But why is it that the Democrats are not worried about this?
00:25:54.460Because they know, they know to a metaphysical certainty that CNN will never cover it, that MSNBC will never cover it, that the New York Times, the Washington Post, that the entire corrupt corporate media won't cover it because if it doesn't fit their political agenda, from their view, it doesn't exist.
00:26:14.560Yeah, that goes back to Tony Bobulinski.
00:26:16.780I mean, this is a guy that's an actually and a human being that did business with Hunter Biden, had multiple meetings with then Vice President Joe Biden, had meetings with James Biden.
00:26:28.680He was involved in the Biden crime family.
00:26:31.880And once he was involved, he got to see how it worked.
00:26:38.480They, after they met with him, they tried to shut it down where everything that Tony Bobulinski gave them could not be seen by anyone by saying, by labeling it as disinformation.
00:26:52.740They then tried to cover up what he gave them.
00:26:55.060Well, and contrast this to the behavior of the FBI, the behavior of the Department of Justice, and the behavior of the entire corrupt corporate media when it came to allegations against Donald Trump, when it came to the Steele dossier, something that was fantastical on its face.
00:27:14.060Something that we now know was paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC, something that on the face of it, it was essentially rumors at a bar, some drunk guy going, well, you know, I think Trump is doing this.
00:27:30.000And every scurrilous allegation, no matter how flimsy, no matter how not backed up by the facts, would be echoed on the front pages of the New York Times breathlessly.
00:27:44.640And in contrast, look, these are witnesses.
00:27:49.800Bobulinski was a business partner, was an active participant in what he is testifying is a criminal, essentially a criminal bribery scheme.
00:28:01.920The stenographer was a White House employee for 15 years, was physically in the room with the vice president and today's national security advisors.
00:28:12.760And yet, this is not news they're willing to cover.
00:28:17.980And contrast the two, and let's be clear, the New York Times and the Washington Post both won Pulitzer Prizes for their false reporting on the Trump-Russia collusion that turned out not to be Russia collusion,
00:28:32.300but that titillated the fantasies and made the hearts go pitter-pat of leftists.
00:28:40.220And I've got to say, Ben, it's gotten particularly funny.
00:28:43.220I don't know if you've seen that Saturday Night Live, which sadly is not funny very often anymore,
00:28:51.560but SNL has done a mocking ad for what they call CNN Zen,
00:28:56.700which is for leftists who hate Trump, that this plays soothing words from left-wing corrupt media commentators because they're so nervous they need to be soothed.
00:29:14.040And I've got to say, for our listeners, this is a good way.
00:33:31.460I mean, that may be one of my favorite skits from SNL Center ever, and I can't actually believe they did this.
00:33:42.840Basically mocking the case, and also the psychos are obsessed with Donald Trump being indicted.
00:33:47.600When even SNL is making fun of CNN and the corporate media for being utterly corrupt and in bed with Trump, you know it is obvious and undeniable.