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Verdict with Ted Cruz
- May 26, 2023
WOKE Target Loses BILLIONS Plus IRS Whistleblower Catches AG Merrick Garland In A Lie
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This is an iHeart Podcast.
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Guaranteed human.
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Welcome.
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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz.
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Ben Ferguson with you as always.
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Senator, we've got a lot to talk about,
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including the second IRS whistleblower coming forward
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and telling his story at a very shocking place.
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We're going to tell you about that in a moment.
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Also, would you have ever imagined
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that a big presidential campaign
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would be launched on social media?
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Ron DeSantis did exactly that.
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We'll talk about how unique that is.
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And Target, they're going woke
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and, well, now they're going broke.
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Target has lost $8 to $9 billion,
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they say, in the week following the calls
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for a boycott over their gay pride,
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LGBTQ+, friendly kids' clothing and propaganda.
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Senator, let's start with this IRS whistleblower.
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You and I were talking before the show.
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It's interesting that he's come forward.
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It's also very interesting
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where he did his sit-down interview.
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Let's talk about that.
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Well, it's quite stunning.
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CBS News put him front and center,
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interviewed him on camera,
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and he's making serious allegations.
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He's making serious allegations
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that the Biden Department of Justice
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is slow walking,
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is blocking the investigation of Hunter Biden.
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One of the consequences of those allegations
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is if that's true,
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it means Merrick Garland lied under oath.
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And I got to say,
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listening to this interview on CBS
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takes your breath away.
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Give a listen.
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When I took control of this particular investigation,
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I immediately saw it, you know,
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was way outside the norm
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of what I've experienced in the past.
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Gary Shapley is a supervisory special agent
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for the IRS,
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where he's worked for 14 years.
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In January 2020,
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he was assigned to what he calls
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a high-profile investigation.
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Who's the subject of the investigation?
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I can't confirm or deny
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the subject of this investigation.
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Why not?
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Because, you know,
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part of the tax secrecy laws
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don't allow it.
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Shapley can't say it,
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but CBS News has learned
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the investigation was the probe
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of Hunter Biden
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by the Trump-appointed
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U.S. attorney in Delaware.
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Senior Biden administration officials
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have vowed to let it run its course
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without interference.
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It's not restricted
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in this investigation in any way.
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But CBS News has obtained this letter
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Shapley's lawyers sent to Congress Monday
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alleging irregularities
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in DOJ's handling of the investigation.
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Shapley is seeking legal protections
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from Congress
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so he can share specifics
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of his allegations.
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There was multiple steps
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that were slow-walked
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at the direction
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of the Department of Justice.
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Had you ever encountered that before?
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I have not, no.
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These deviations from normal process
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and each and every time
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it seemed to always benefit the subject.
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Shapley says he decided
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to blow the whistle
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after a heated meeting
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last October
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with federal prosecutors.
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It was my red line meeting.
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It just got to that point
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where that switch
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was turned on
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and I just couldn't silence
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my conscience anymore.
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Senator, he says he couldn't
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silence his conscience anymore
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and that's why he's been
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so brave and to come forward.
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When you hear this whistleblower speak,
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what comes to mind
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for you initially?
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Well, that these allegations
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are very serious.
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That what he is stating
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is that for the first time
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in his experience
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the Department of Justice
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was actively impeding
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an investigation,
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was slow-walking it
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and that number one
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reeks of political cover-up
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but number two,
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it's directly contrary
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to what Merrick Garland has said
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and one of the things
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that Merrick Garland
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is fond of saying
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and that gets repeated a lot
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is that the person
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doing this investigation
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is the quote
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Trump-appointed
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U.S. attorney in Delaware.
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That individual
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is a person named David Weiss
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and it's true
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he was appointed
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by Donald Trump.
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He had previously
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been the acting U.S. attorney
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under Barack Obama
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and, you know,
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let me point out
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about how
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U.S. attorneys
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are appointed.
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In order for them
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to go through,
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you have to get
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the sign-off
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of the senators
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from that home state.
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Delaware has two
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Democrat senators
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which means
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as a practical matter
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the Democrat senators
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in Delaware
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picked this U.S. attorney
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and so the phrase
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the Trump-appointed
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U.S. attorney
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suggests that
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he's a Republican,
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that he somehow
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might be out
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to get the Bidens.
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There is zero,
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in fact,
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less than zero evidence
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that's true
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but
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if what this whistleblower
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is alleging
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is accurate,
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then his investigation
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was actively
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slow-walking
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the investigation
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of Hunter Biden
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and one of the things
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striking is
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that means
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that the attorney general
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testified falsely
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to the Senate
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Judiciary Committee
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in response
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to questions
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I asked him directly.
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I want people
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to hear exactly
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that back and forth.
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Take a listen
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to this.
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Hunter Cruz.
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Thank you,
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Mr. Chairman.
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General Garland,
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the Department of Justice
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should enforce the law
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regardless of politics.
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I do not believe
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that has been
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what is happening
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in the last two years.
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Among other things,
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I believe
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you very much
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want to indict
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Donald J. Trump.
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Toward that end,
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the Department of Justice
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has leaked
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that DOJ
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is investigating
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and intends
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to indict
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Hunter Biden.
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The purpose
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of those leaks,
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I believe,
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was to set
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the predicate
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for an indictment
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of Trump
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to say,
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look how even-handed
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we are.
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We're indicting
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a Biden,
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we're indicting
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a Trump.
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Those leaks
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are not law
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or enforcing
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the law,
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they are politics.
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Did you know
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about the leaks
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about the Hunter
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Biden investigation?
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I don't know
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about the leak
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that you're talking
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about.
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leaks are in violation
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of our regulations
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and our requirements.
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So the answer is-
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The leaks are consistently
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on one side of the aisle
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advancing one political agenda.
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As you know,
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the FBI raided
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Donald Trump's
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Mar-a-Lago home.
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And subsequent
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to that raid,
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there have been
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multiple leaks
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about what was
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discovered there,
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including a photograph
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of documents
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that were discovered there.
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Did you know
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about the leaks
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from that raid?
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The photograph
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was a filing
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in court
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in response
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to a motion
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filed by Mr. Trump.
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It was not a leak.
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So you're testifying
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there haven't been leaks
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about the Trump raid
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in investigation?
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I'm responding
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to the point about-
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Do you know
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about the leaks
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that have occurred
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concerning Trump?
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I've read the leaks.
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They are inappropriate.
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We also don't know
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where they come from.
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Witnesses on the-
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But what's interesting
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is when the shoe
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was on the other foot,
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I believe your intention
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and I believe
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it's a political intention
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to indict President Trump
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became infinitely harder
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when classified documents
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were discovered repeatedly
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at President Biden's
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multiple residences.
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According to the public record,
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those were first discovered
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on November 2nd,
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six days before
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the prior election.
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Department of Justice
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was notified
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on November 4th,
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and yet miraculously
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there was no leak
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about the classified documents
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at President Biden's home
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when it politically benefited
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the effort to go after
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and charge Donald Trump.
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DOJ leaked.
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When it potentially harmed
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the Democrat president,
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DOJ did not leak.
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Does that strike you
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as at all a double standard?
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Leaks under all circumstances
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are inappropriate,
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and they are not directed
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by anyone in the Justice Department.
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Let me say in particular
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on Hunter Biden,
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I very much hope
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that an investigation
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of Hunter Biden
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is focused not just
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on his own personal
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substance abuse issues,
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but on connections
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to his father
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and potential corruption.
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That is the matter
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of public concern
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and why people are concerned.
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It was striking
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that the leak
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that came out from DOJ
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suggested this is just
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going after some poor,
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poor person struggling
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with drugs
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instead of looking at
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the very real evidence
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of corruption.
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Will you commit
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that the investigation
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will actually examine
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the public corruption aspect
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and not simply scapegoat
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Hunter Biden as an individual?
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I can't comment
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about the investigation
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other than to say
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that all the matters
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involving Mr. Hunter Biden
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are in the purview
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of the U.S. Attorney
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in Delaware.
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It's not restricted
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in his investigation
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in any way.
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Well, you don't comment here,
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but then you leak
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at the same time.
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Senator Hawley.
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Senator, did the acting
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of the Attorney General,
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did he lie to you
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and did he lie to Congress?
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Well, if what the whistleblower
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is saying is accurate,
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then Merrick Garland
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in all likelihood
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gave false testimony
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to Congress.
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Now, whether it's a lie
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depends on two things.
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Number one,
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his knowledge at the time.
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It is possible
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that he believed
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what he was saying was true
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even though it was false.
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There should be an investigation.
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If he knowingly
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gave false testimony,
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that's a lie.
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That is also a felony
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because his testimony began
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with his raising his right hand
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and taking an oath
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to tell the truth,
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the whole truth,
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and nothing but the truth.
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Merrick Garland knows that.
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And so,
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the whistleblower's testimony
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strongly suggests
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that the Attorney General's
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testimony was false
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and I believe
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there should be
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a serious investigation
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into whether it was
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knowingly false.
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There's going to be
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a lot of people
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that are going to ask
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this question.
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When is there going to be
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some accountability?
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Because when these
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whistleblowers come forward
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and they tell their stories
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and we see what was
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really going on
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behind closed doors,
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there are so many people
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that are just so angry,
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Senator,
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that I talk to,
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you talk to every day
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when you are in and around
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Texas and around the country
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in Washington, D.C.,
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who are saying
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they're sick and tired
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of watching these people
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get away with this.
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Do you feel like
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the momentum
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is slowly starting to change
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where there will be
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real and honest accountability?
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Well,
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I think there will be
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accountability
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in the House of Representatives.
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You have investigations
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both from Jim Jordan
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and Representative Comer
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that are looking directly
00:12:19.640
at these issues.
00:12:20.740
I think you will continue
00:12:21.620
to see hearings
00:12:22.780
in the House of Representatives
00:12:24.540
that are putting evidence
00:12:25.620
before the American people.
00:12:27.840
There is more and more
00:12:29.220
indication that the House
00:12:30.860
may hold Chris Wray,
00:12:33.460
the director of the FBI,
00:12:34.940
in contempt for refusing
00:12:36.380
to respond to subpoenas
00:12:38.680
issued by Congress.
00:12:39.960
And if the Attorney General,
00:12:43.020
I expect the House
00:12:44.620
of Representatives
00:12:45.260
to cross-examine
00:12:46.700
the Attorney General
00:12:47.560
on whether he lied
00:12:49.760
and whether he knowingly lied.
00:12:52.100
In the Senate,
00:12:53.400
I don't expect the Senate
00:12:54.380
judiciary to do
00:12:55.260
anything about it.
00:12:56.220
I think Dick Durbin
00:12:57.020
and the Democrats,
00:12:57.900
they do not care.
00:12:59.240
They are happy
00:13:00.020
for the Attorney General
00:13:01.360
to cover up
00:13:02.120
the investigation
00:13:02.760
of Hunter Biden.
00:13:03.920
They want the Attorney General
00:13:05.640
to cover up
00:13:06.220
the investigation
00:13:06.840
of Hunter Biden.
00:13:07.840
They want the Department
00:13:09.260
of Justice
00:13:09.760
to be the political arm
00:13:10.880
of the White House.
00:13:11.580
They want this DOJ
00:13:14.620
to be utterly corrupt.
00:13:16.420
And look,
00:13:17.080
that's a strong allegation.
00:13:18.940
But if they didn't,
00:13:21.460
Dick Durbin could hold
00:13:22.400
a hearing tomorrow.
00:13:23.740
If they didn't,
00:13:26.200
Dick Durbin
00:13:26.940
could subpoena
00:13:28.900
the Attorney General
00:13:30.460
tomorrow.
00:13:31.560
If they didn't,
00:13:33.260
just one of the Democrats,
00:13:35.260
just one of the Democrats
00:13:37.020
could muster up
00:13:38.960
the mustard seeds
00:13:40.260
of courage
00:13:41.020
to ask the Attorney General
00:13:43.380
about it.
00:13:44.180
But if you look
00:13:44.780
at the hearings,
00:13:46.140
the Democrats all get in
00:13:47.440
and play patty cake
00:13:48.620
with him.
00:13:49.860
They praise him,
00:13:51.160
if anything,
00:13:52.340
that they urge him,
00:13:54.560
why can't you be
00:13:55.700
more vigorous
00:13:56.620
going after our enemies?
00:13:58.100
Why can't you be
00:13:58.900
more vigorous
00:13:59.720
going after
00:14:00.960
every little old lady
00:14:02.100
who waved
00:14:02.540
an American flag
00:14:03.380
on the mall
00:14:03.820
during January 6th?
00:14:05.040
Those are the questions
00:14:06.060
the Democrats ask.
00:14:07.720
And so if there is
00:14:08.920
a Democrat senator
00:14:09.820
who gives a damn
00:14:11.200
about whether DOJ
00:14:13.800
is obstructing justice
00:14:15.160
and covering up
00:14:16.200
criminal activity
00:14:17.580
from the President
00:14:18.780
of the United States
00:14:19.940
involved in corruption
00:14:21.980
with foreign countries
00:14:23.360
like China
00:14:24.280
and Ukraine
00:14:25.340
and his son,
00:14:26.200
if there's a Democrat
00:14:26.960
who cares,
00:14:28.140
he or she has yet
00:14:29.200
to open
00:14:29.740
his or her mouth
00:14:30.700
about it.
00:14:31.120
Yeah, it's going
00:14:32.660
to be interesting
00:14:33.100
to see how many
00:14:33.760
more whistleblowers
00:14:34.520
come forward as well
00:14:35.540
and how so many
00:14:36.740
men and women
00:14:37.380
are becoming so brave
00:14:38.600
now,
00:14:38.980
feeling like they have
00:14:39.560
a safe place to go
00:14:40.660
to conservative members
00:14:42.380
of Congress
00:14:42.900
to tell their stories.
00:14:44.340
And this is shocking
00:14:45.600
that CBS did it.
00:14:46.500
So I got to ask you
00:14:47.220
the politics of this,
00:14:48.340
Senator.
00:14:49.180
CBS News doing
00:14:50.640
this interview
00:14:51.360
to me just screamed,
00:14:53.240
this isn't normal.
00:14:55.500
This is odd.
00:14:57.100
They've not wanted
00:14:58.120
to cover any
00:14:59.100
of the Hunter Biden
00:14:59.780
scandal.
00:15:00.340
Now, all of a sudden,
00:15:01.020
they're not only
00:15:01.400
they covering it,
00:15:02.360
they're breaking news
00:15:03.760
with a coveted
00:15:05.100
whistleblower.
00:15:06.340
Were you taken
00:15:07.160
aback by that?
00:15:08.220
And is there a chance?
00:15:10.140
The reason why
00:15:10.720
they're doing this
00:15:11.260
is because they realize
00:15:12.320
the Republican field
00:15:13.340
is getting more crowded
00:15:14.300
with Ron DeSantis
00:15:15.040
announcing as well.
00:15:16.200
And they're really
00:15:17.260
worried that any
00:15:18.280
of these candidates
00:15:18.900
might be able
00:15:19.500
to beat Joe Biden.
00:15:21.240
Well, it is fascinating
00:15:24.340
that CBS ran this story,
00:15:27.620
that they focused on it,
00:15:28.720
that they highlighted it.
00:15:29.860
They have had
00:15:30.820
little to no interest
00:15:33.800
in covering
00:15:34.440
the mounting evidence
00:15:35.900
of corruption
00:15:36.640
in the Biden family.
00:15:39.180
So this is a big break.
00:15:41.200
And that decision
00:15:43.560
would have been highlighted
00:15:44.740
by a network executive.
00:15:46.320
That was not done
00:15:47.600
by an individual reporter.
00:15:49.400
It was not done
00:15:50.020
by an individual anchor.
00:15:51.020
That was done
00:15:51.980
by a higher up,
00:15:53.740
by the suits at CBS,
00:15:55.580
by someone with authority,
00:15:57.200
the head of the news division,
00:15:59.060
somebody with real authority
00:16:00.620
made the decision,
00:16:02.440
green light this,
00:16:03.800
go with this.
00:16:05.900
That's powerful.
00:16:06.980
As to why,
00:16:07.760
I don't know.
00:16:08.580
You know,
00:16:08.800
you asked about
00:16:09.600
whether it is
00:16:10.280
the Republican field
00:16:11.180
getting a little bit
00:16:12.700
more crowded
00:16:13.500
with Ron DeSantis
00:16:14.300
getting in the race.
00:16:15.820
That could be a factor.
00:16:17.220
I have said before,
00:16:20.580
so six months ago,
00:16:22.740
I did not believe
00:16:24.380
Joe Biden
00:16:25.040
was going to be the nominee.
00:16:26.160
I didn't think
00:16:26.560
Joe Biden
00:16:27.040
was going to run
00:16:27.940
because he is so
00:16:28.920
obviously diminished mentally
00:16:30.720
that he's not up to it.
00:16:32.660
And pretty much
00:16:34.080
everyone knows that.
00:16:35.160
Republicans certainly know that,
00:16:36.340
but the Democrats
00:16:36.860
know that too.
00:16:38.500
What changed
00:16:39.680
in the last six months
00:16:40.980
is I right now
00:16:42.820
think Biden
00:16:43.460
is quite likely
00:16:44.280
to be the nominee.
00:16:45.100
Why?
00:16:46.360
Because I think right now
00:16:47.860
most Democrats
00:16:49.660
believe Donald Trump
00:16:51.400
will be the nominee.
00:16:53.240
And Democrats
00:16:54.380
who believe
00:16:55.200
Donald Trump
00:16:55.780
will be the nominee
00:16:56.520
also believe
00:16:57.800
that if Trump
00:16:59.120
is the nominee
00:16:59.740
that they can nominate Biden
00:17:01.220
and just hide him
00:17:02.040
in the basement
00:17:02.440
for two years
00:17:03.140
and run a campaign
00:17:05.020
about how much
00:17:05.720
they hate Donald Trump.
00:17:06.720
And they believe
00:17:07.460
that Biden in the basement
00:17:08.600
plus their antipathy
00:17:10.100
for Donald Trump
00:17:11.040
produces a victory
00:17:12.600
on General Election Day.
00:17:14.020
I do think
00:17:15.740
if the nominee,
00:17:17.120
if Democrats believe
00:17:18.300
the Republican nominee
00:17:19.380
really is anyone
00:17:20.700
other than Trump,
00:17:22.540
I think the odds
00:17:23.480
skyrocket
00:17:24.320
that Democrats decide
00:17:25.540
they want to dump
00:17:26.380
Joe Biden
00:17:27.040
and find somebody else
00:17:28.780
because if the nominee
00:17:29.600
is someone other than Trump,
00:17:31.000
it's much harder
00:17:32.080
for them to run a campaign
00:17:33.280
on how much
00:17:33.800
they hate Trump.
00:17:34.660
Then they actually
00:17:35.580
have to find a candidate
00:17:36.560
who can leave the basement
00:17:38.220
and say something.
00:17:39.340
And so whether this is CBS
00:17:43.220
network execs
00:17:44.620
starting to have those
00:17:46.620
knocking knees,
00:17:47.840
I don't know,
00:17:48.700
but it is a very
00:17:49.920
interesting development
00:17:50.920
and it will get more interesting
00:17:52.700
if you see more
00:17:53.600
of the corrupt corporate media
00:17:54.840
following suit.
00:17:56.180
Yeah, no doubt about it.
00:17:57.780
I got to ask you
00:17:58.560
about the other story.
00:17:59.760
Ron DeSantis
00:18:00.560
has announced
00:18:02.120
he's running for president
00:18:03.120
and yes,
00:18:04.180
that's newsworthy.
00:18:06.040
But the way that he did it
00:18:08.340
is something
00:18:09.460
I could have never imagined.
00:18:11.060
You actually worked
00:18:12.820
on a presidential campaign.
00:18:15.100
You've run for president
00:18:16.380
as well.
00:18:18.220
And I've worked
00:18:19.720
on presidential campaigns.
00:18:21.180
I never could have imagined
00:18:22.440
us sitting in a room
00:18:23.320
saying,
00:18:23.820
hey,
00:18:24.480
we should announce
00:18:25.220
on social media.
00:18:26.520
Is this moving
00:18:28.540
and changing
00:18:29.600
just to improve
00:18:30.920
how important
00:18:31.880
social media is
00:18:33.000
to see a candidate
00:18:34.420
do it
00:18:35.120
the way
00:18:35.740
that Ron DeSantis
00:18:36.960
did it?
00:18:37.380
Could you have ever
00:18:37.860
imagined this
00:18:38.640
10, 15, 20 years ago?
00:18:40.880
Well, I think
00:18:41.520
it's twin commentary.
00:18:42.780
Number one,
00:18:43.580
the rising importance
00:18:44.540
of social media
00:18:45.460
and alternative avenues
00:18:46.620
of communication.
00:18:47.820
And number two,
00:18:49.340
a continuing indictment
00:18:50.680
of the corrupt
00:18:51.260
corporate media.
00:18:52.860
It's remarkable.
00:18:54.200
There's certainly
00:18:55.100
been no prior cycle
00:18:56.480
where when any
00:18:57.740
presidential candidate
00:18:58.760
would make an announcement
00:18:59.760
like this
00:19:00.520
on social media
00:19:02.180
and Twitter spaces.
00:19:03.080
I'll tell you,
00:19:03.760
going back to 2011
00:19:05.740
when I first announced
00:19:07.320
my campaign
00:19:08.920
for U.S. Senate,
00:19:10.040
very first time,
00:19:10.940
I made that announcement
00:19:12.100
on a conference call
00:19:14.340
with bloggers
00:19:15.220
and it was,
00:19:17.420
to my knowledge,
00:19:17.920
the first time
00:19:18.560
anyone had done that.
00:19:20.140
And bloggers
00:19:20.900
were relatively new
00:19:21.960
and the reason
00:19:22.840
I did that
00:19:23.560
is that there were
00:19:24.360
a lot of folks
00:19:25.140
who were blogging
00:19:27.100
and who were writing things
00:19:28.060
and I wanted them
00:19:28.700
to write about the campaign.
00:19:29.680
I wanted them
00:19:30.260
to get excited
00:19:30.840
about the campaign
00:19:31.580
and so it was
00:19:32.440
at the time
00:19:33.820
trying to take advantage
00:19:36.500
of a cutting edge
00:19:38.000
in the development
00:19:39.440
of media
00:19:40.020
and communication.
00:19:40.680
I think what
00:19:41.660
DeSantis did this week
00:19:43.280
is similar to that
00:19:44.580
but obviously
00:19:45.160
the technology
00:19:46.280
and communication
00:19:47.040
has changed dramatically
00:19:48.100
in the years since then.
00:19:50.340
Now,
00:19:51.000
there's been
00:19:51.500
a ton of coverage
00:19:53.360
on the technical glitches
00:19:54.580
that the Twitter spaces,
00:19:56.020
that there were
00:19:56.420
so many users on it
00:19:57.540
that it was delayed
00:19:58.640
and glitchy
00:19:59.500
and didn't work very well
00:20:00.820
and look,
00:20:01.320
that I am sure
00:20:02.840
Elon Musk
00:20:03.740
has decapitated
00:20:05.400
more than a few people
00:20:06.380
at Twitter
00:20:06.740
because that was not
00:20:07.340
a good moment for Twitter.
00:20:08.440
That was a
00:20:09.700
high profile moment
00:20:11.280
for Twitter
00:20:11.780
as an avenue
00:20:12.680
for communicating
00:20:13.760
to hundreds of thousands
00:20:15.280
of people simultaneously
00:20:16.680
but I am quite confident
00:20:19.940
this will not be
00:20:20.760
the last campaign
00:20:22.260
launched in this format
00:20:24.660
and it's striking
00:20:25.580
that it wasn't launched
00:20:26.880
on a TV show.
00:20:29.340
It wasn't launched
00:20:30.700
on Fox News
00:20:31.920
which I think
00:20:32.620
Fox News
00:20:34.280
was less than happy about.
00:20:36.360
It wasn't launched
00:20:38.060
in a big rally.
00:20:41.020
When I launched
00:20:42.020
my campaign
00:20:42.700
in 2015
00:20:43.780
I did so
00:20:44.620
at Liberty University
00:20:45.620
in an auditorium
00:20:47.400
with about 10,000 students
00:20:48.820
and that was
00:20:49.840
a fantastic place
00:20:53.140
to launch it
00:20:53.700
and energizing
00:20:55.700
to be surrounded
00:20:56.500
by a crowd
00:20:58.120
and that's how
00:21:01.460
I chose to launch it
00:21:02.720
eight years ago.
00:21:07.560
This reflects
00:21:08.680
that technology
00:21:09.880
is moving,
00:21:10.700
communication
00:21:11.020
is moving
00:21:11.660
but it also reflects
00:21:12.880
presumably
00:21:13.520
the DeSantis campaign
00:21:15.340
believing
00:21:15.740
they wouldn't get
00:21:16.460
a fair shake
00:21:17.240
from much
00:21:17.740
of the traditional media
00:21:18.780
and so trying
00:21:20.440
to cut out
00:21:21.540
the middleman
00:21:22.200
and go straight
00:21:23.560
to the voters
00:21:24.080
and I think
00:21:24.520
you'll see
00:21:24.960
a lot of that.
00:21:25.620
It also reminds me
00:21:26.660
in 2016
00:21:29.040
Trump's use
00:21:31.300
of social media
00:21:32.300
was cutting edge.
00:21:34.600
It was
00:21:35.320
he would put out
00:21:36.640
tweets
00:21:37.180
that would drive
00:21:38.760
the news cycle
00:21:39.460
in a way
00:21:39.820
that had never
00:21:40.240
happened before
00:21:40.980
and it changed
00:21:42.500
how people
00:21:43.180
communicate
00:21:44.560
through his use
00:21:46.400
of Twitter.
00:21:46.980
I'll say actually
00:21:47.720
in response
00:21:48.500
among other things
00:21:49.900
to the glitches
00:21:51.160
on the announcement
00:21:52.640
the Trump campaign
00:21:54.360
put out
00:21:54.940
a mock
00:21:55.860
Twitter spaces
00:21:56.880
with featuring
00:21:59.700
the Sanus
00:22:01.520
and Musk
00:22:01.940
but also featuring
00:22:02.800
people like
00:22:03.440
the devil
00:22:03.880
and Adolf Hitler
00:22:04.600
and I gotta say
00:22:06.140
whoever the writer
00:22:06.920
was it was funny
00:22:07.720
as hell
00:22:08.060
so it was
00:22:08.820
clever how they
00:22:10.140
mocked it
00:22:10.740
and I think
00:22:11.540
you're gonna see
00:22:12.060
an awful lot
00:22:12.760
more humor
00:22:14.220
and mockery
00:22:15.100
probably on both
00:22:16.180
sides
00:22:16.660
but you're right
00:22:18.940
this was a
00:22:19.780
a milestone
00:22:20.500
in terms
00:22:21.260
of communications
00:22:22.460
and how
00:22:23.880
how candidates
00:22:25.200
communicate
00:22:25.660
with the voters
00:22:26.220
I also think
00:22:27.120
it also
00:22:28.100
shows us
00:22:29.280
from the
00:22:30.880
Twitter file
00:22:31.700
Senator
00:22:32.120
just how
00:22:33.840
important
00:22:34.400
social media
00:22:35.160
is to
00:22:35.960
driving
00:22:36.660
Americans
00:22:37.740
viewpoints
00:22:38.420
and opinions
00:22:39.000
and views
00:22:39.840
we have seen
00:22:40.880
that in a topic
00:22:41.700
we're gonna talk
00:22:42.280
about in a minute
00:22:42.720
with Target
00:22:43.360
we've seen that
00:22:44.200
that's happened
00:22:45.260
with Bud Light
00:22:45.940
but it also
00:22:46.940
shows you
00:22:47.920
how important
00:22:49.200
the Democrats
00:22:50.100
understood
00:22:50.820
Twitter and
00:22:51.580
Facebook to be
00:22:52.260
when they were
00:22:52.660
meeting with them
00:22:53.220
on the regular
00:22:53.820
trying to influence
00:22:55.440
the news
00:22:56.140
and what people
00:22:57.060
were seeing
00:22:57.620
and then
00:22:58.540
you see somebody
00:22:59.700
like DeSantis
00:23:00.460
use the platform
00:23:01.740
to announce
00:23:02.160
the president
00:23:02.560
to run
00:23:03.060
it's like
00:23:03.820
yeah
00:23:04.120
it's because
00:23:05.280
we all know
00:23:06.920
how important
00:23:07.600
this medium is
00:23:08.460
and the Democrats
00:23:09.380
are cooking the books
00:23:10.220
for years
00:23:11.000
against conservatives
00:23:12.620
silencing and censoring
00:23:13.780
conservatives
00:23:14.380
and they want us
00:23:14.940
to act like
00:23:15.400
it wasn't a big deal
00:23:16.380
when clearly it was
00:23:17.680
well that's right
00:23:19.280
and let me say
00:23:20.060
there's also
00:23:20.860
an avenue
00:23:21.760
of social media
00:23:22.640
which is that
00:23:23.200
it drives
00:23:24.140
traditional media
00:23:25.800
I cannot tell you
00:23:27.700
how many times
00:23:28.400
if there's a topic
00:23:29.240
that I want to engage on
00:23:30.860
I'll pull out my phone
00:23:32.920
and send a tweet
00:23:33.840
and within minutes
00:23:35.760
you can see people
00:23:37.680
reporters
00:23:38.780
who follow Twitter
00:23:40.120
if the tweet
00:23:41.520
is on a topic
00:23:42.360
of public concern
00:23:43.540
and something
00:23:43.880
they care about
00:23:44.780
you can see
00:23:45.760
stories written
00:23:46.680
I've typed out tweets
00:23:48.640
and within 10 minutes
00:23:50.760
seen them on the TV
00:23:51.880
on Fox News
00:23:52.760
the tweet
00:23:53.180
that I just typed
00:23:53.820
on my phone
00:23:54.400
there's a speed of it
00:23:57.180
that in many ways
00:23:58.220
engaging in social media
00:24:00.380
is an instantaneous
00:24:01.220
press release
00:24:03.260
to millions of people
00:24:04.640
including every reporter
00:24:06.000
on planet Earth
00:24:06.840
and so that
00:24:07.520
it's a different relationship
00:24:10.880
than it used to be
00:24:11.760
and as I said
00:24:12.240
it was Trump
00:24:12.740
who pioneered that
00:24:13.840
but it's
00:24:14.700
I've been on Air Force One
00:24:16.200
with Trump
00:24:16.640
where we were talking
00:24:17.260
about a topic
00:24:17.940
and he said
00:24:18.820
alright let's send
00:24:19.440
a tweet on that
00:24:20.260
and he in that instance
00:24:22.200
dictated it
00:24:23.780
to his social media
00:24:24.620
guy Dan Scavino
00:24:25.460
Dan sent the tweet
00:24:26.320
out from Air Force One
00:24:27.300
and I've been
00:24:28.000
in the president's office
00:24:30.420
on Air Force One
00:24:31.240
with Fox News
00:24:32.020
on the TV
00:24:32.660
and boom
00:24:33.780
his tweet pops up
00:24:34.760
on the TV
00:24:35.560
again 5-10 minutes
00:24:36.980
after he decided
00:24:39.040
to send that tweet
00:24:39.780
and so there's
00:24:40.280
an instantaneous
00:24:41.240
communication piece
00:24:42.540
to it
00:24:42.960
that is very
00:24:44.320
very potent
00:24:44.940
no doubt about it
00:24:46.000
I want to talk
00:24:46.660
about one of the
00:24:47.840
places where social
00:24:48.840
media is driving
00:24:49.740
change and reform
00:24:52.080
that deals with
00:24:52.960
Bud Light
00:24:53.360
and now Target
00:24:54.400
losing $9 billion
00:24:57.560
in the week
00:24:58.720
following the calls
00:24:59.620
for boycotts
00:25:00.400
over what they've
00:25:01.180
been doing
00:25:01.620
going after kids
00:25:02.640
and their gay pride
00:25:04.060
displays
00:25:04.640
and some of the
00:25:06.320
just horrific things
00:25:07.680
that they're selling
00:25:08.360
online and their
00:25:09.100
designers are designing
00:25:10.140
the clothes
00:25:10.720
it as a Satanist
00:25:12.280
who was designing
00:25:12.840
it saying
00:25:13.300
that you know
00:25:14.380
trans people
00:25:15.180
should come to
00:25:15.920
Satan
00:25:16.220
it's shocking
00:25:17.020
to see this
00:25:17.600
all play out
00:25:18.240
but it's cost
00:25:18.860
him now
00:25:19.160
apparently
00:25:19.520
$9 billion
00:25:21.560
and before we
00:25:22.600
get to that
00:25:22.960
let me tell you
00:25:23.340
about our
00:25:23.580
friends over at
00:25:24.140
Chalk
00:25:24.440
alright
00:25:24.680
if you're a
00:25:25.220
man
00:25:25.520
and you've
00:25:26.620
noticed
00:25:27.060
that you
00:25:28.000
are just
00:25:28.780
feeling like
00:25:29.500
you're a little
00:25:29.780
bit more
00:25:30.120
fatigued
00:25:30.840
than you used
00:25:31.260
to be
00:25:31.440
a little
00:25:31.640
more weak
00:25:32.120
than you
00:25:32.380
used to
00:25:32.660
be
00:25:32.760
a little
00:25:32.940
more
00:25:33.120
complacent
00:25:33.900
than you
00:25:34.160
used
00:25:34.320
to be
00:25:34.600
you're
00:25:35.400
not alone
00:25:35.960
men's
00:25:37.180
testosterone
00:25:37.580
levels
00:25:38.020
are off
00:25:38.720
a cliff
00:25:39.140
historically
00:25:39.860
and they're
00:25:40.760
in an
00:25:41.080
all-time
00:25:41.760
low
00:25:42.120
thankfully
00:25:43.040
the
00:25:43.400
patriots
00:25:44.200
at
00:25:44.400
chalk
00:25:44.780
c-h-o-q
00:25:45.860
dot com
00:25:46.840
are here
00:25:47.640
to help
00:25:48.080
real
00:25:48.520
american men
00:25:49.240
take back
00:25:49.880
their right
00:25:50.820
to maximize
00:25:51.920
your masculinity
00:25:53.220
by boosting
00:25:54.160
your testosterone
00:25:55.100
levels up to
00:25:55.860
20 percent
00:25:56.940
over 90 days
00:25:58.400
now I've been
00:25:59.160
taking the
00:25:59.560
chalk male
00:26:00.460
vitality stack
00:26:01.860
I can tell you
00:26:02.720
it works
00:26:03.700
and if you
00:26:04.960
are just
00:26:05.540
tired of
00:26:05.940
feeling
00:26:06.280
fatigued
00:26:07.000
and you're
00:26:07.660
ready to
00:26:07.880
get that
00:26:08.180
strength
00:26:08.540
and vitality
00:26:09.160
back
00:26:09.520
check out
00:26:10.460
chalk
00:26:10.840
go to
00:26:11.580
c-h-o-q
00:26:12.940
dot com
00:26:13.960
manufactured
00:26:14.940
right here
00:26:15.340
in the
00:26:15.480
u-s-of-a
00:26:16.040
chalk's
00:26:16.760
natural
00:26:17.260
herbal
00:26:17.520
supplements
00:26:18.000
are clinically
00:26:18.660
proven to
00:26:19.260
have game
00:26:19.820
changing
00:26:20.200
effects
00:26:20.580
in your
00:26:20.840
energy
00:26:21.160
your
00:26:21.380
focus
00:26:21.720
your
00:26:21.940
mood
00:26:22.260
so go
00:26:23.100
online
00:26:23.360
to
00:26:23.520
chalk
00:26:23.840
c-h-o-q
00:26:24.620
dot com
00:26:25.440
that's
00:26:25.700
c-h-o-q
00:26:26.340
dot com
00:26:26.860
use the
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promo code
00:26:28.280
ben
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for 35
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any
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chalk
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subscription
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for life
00:26:33.920
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dot com
00:26:35.520
check out
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the male
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vitality stack
00:26:37.440
and use
00:26:38.060
a promo
00:26:38.420
code ben
00:26:38.920
for 35
00:26:39.580
percent off
00:26:40.660
senator
00:26:41.320
i love
00:26:42.220
watching
00:26:42.720
victories
00:26:43.320
play out
00:26:43.900
in real
00:26:44.280
time
00:26:44.700
the victory
00:26:45.960
over
00:26:46.720
anheuser-busch
00:26:47.760
by conservatives
00:26:48.760
after they
00:26:49.740
decide to
00:26:50.860
partner with
00:26:51.380
a dude
00:26:52.000
who's dressed
00:26:52.720
like a chick
00:26:53.480
mulvaney
00:26:54.340
now
00:26:54.980
now
00:26:55.000
we're
00:26:55.220
seeing
00:26:55.600
target
00:26:56.200
target
00:26:56.900
has
00:26:57.100
posted
00:26:57.400
a
00:26:57.640
nine
00:26:57.920
billion
00:26:58.260
dollar
00:26:58.480
loss
00:26:58.900
in
00:26:59.060
market
00:26:59.360
cap
00:26:59.700
in
00:26:59.840
just
00:27:00.000
a
00:27:00.160
week
00:27:00.360
after
00:27:00.580
they
00:27:00.720
faced
00:27:01.000
backlash
00:27:01.800
for their
00:27:02.100
pride
00:27:02.440
gear
00:27:02.700
which
00:27:02.940
included
00:27:03.360
tuck
00:27:04.040
friendly
00:27:04.380
swimsuits
00:27:04.940
and other
00:27:05.400
gender
00:27:05.700
related
00:27:06.020
products
00:27:06.680
just like
00:27:07.660
Budweiser
00:27:08.140
they're
00:27:08.400
learning
00:27:08.680
very
00:27:09.000
quickly
00:27:09.440
that
00:27:09.660
parents
00:27:10.340
and
00:27:11.100
normal
00:27:11.460
adults
00:27:11.840
are
00:27:12.040
going
00:27:12.360
to
00:27:12.500
not
00:27:12.680
just
00:27:12.900
sit
00:27:13.120
back
00:27:13.400
and
00:27:13.560
take
00:27:13.760
it
00:27:13.860
anymore
00:27:14.140
they're
00:27:14.320
not
00:27:14.420
going
00:27:14.520
to
00:27:14.560
allow
00:27:14.720
their
00:27:14.900
children
00:27:15.320
to
00:27:15.540
be
00:27:15.680
manipulated
00:27:16.260
conservatives
00:27:17.480
and I say
00:27:18.600
this
00:27:19.020
with hope
00:27:20.080
now
00:27:20.380
are
00:27:20.780
finally
00:27:21.520
waking
00:27:22.100
up
00:27:22.400
and
00:27:22.580
realizing
00:27:23.120
how
00:27:23.460
powerful
00:27:24.020
we
00:27:24.400
are
00:27:24.860
as
00:27:25.160
a
00:27:25.340
group
00:27:25.700
when
00:27:26.160
we
00:27:26.340
stand
00:27:26.700
together
00:27:27.080
as
00:27:27.320
patriots
00:27:27.780
and
00:27:27.940
say
00:27:28.140
no
00:27:28.360
more
00:27:28.680
you
00:27:30.160
know
00:27:30.260
I
00:27:30.360
have
00:27:30.560
to
00:27:30.680
say
00:27:30.900
it's
00:27:31.120
amazing
00:27:31.540
how
00:27:31.780
many
00:27:31.940
big
00:27:32.220
companies
00:27:32.700
don't
00:27:34.260
understand
00:27:34.780
their
00:27:35.020
customers
00:27:35.460
and
00:27:36.380
don't
00:27:36.660
respect
00:27:37.020
their
00:27:37.240
customers
00:27:37.720
because
00:27:38.660
if
00:27:38.920
you
00:27:39.040
respect
00:27:39.440
your
00:27:39.620
customers
00:27:40.020
you
00:27:40.220
don't
00:27:40.420
insult
00:27:40.760
them
00:27:41.040
if
00:27:41.680
you
00:27:41.840
respect
00:27:42.260
your
00:27:42.480
customers
00:27:42.960
you
00:27:43.680
focus
00:27:44.080
on
00:27:44.300
what
00:27:44.440
your
00:27:44.600
customers
00:27:45.020
want
00:27:45.640
and
00:27:45.880
you
00:27:46.180
don't
00:27:46.540
try
00:27:46.840
to
00:27:47.020
impose
00:27:47.840
your
00:27:48.860
political
00:27:49.400
ideology
00:27:50.080
or
00:27:50.400
your
00:27:50.620
extreme
00:27:51.080
views
00:27:51.500
on
00:27:51.880
your
00:27:52.060
customers
00:27:52.540
the
00:27:52.840
phrase
00:27:53.280
the
00:27:53.440
customer
00:27:53.800
is
00:27:53.960
always
00:27:54.200
right
00:27:54.580
used
00:27:56.280
to
00:27:56.440
mean
00:27:56.600
something
00:27:56.980
we
00:27:58.160
see
00:27:58.500
this
00:27:58.920
throughout
00:28:00.060
corporate
00:28:00.540
America
00:28:01.020
where
00:28:01.980
ad
00:28:02.380
agencies
00:28:02.900
are
00:28:03.280
hard
00:28:03.620
left
00:28:04.000
HR
00:28:04.440
departments
00:28:05.060
are
00:28:05.300
hard
00:28:05.620
left
00:28:06.040
the
00:28:06.740
C
00:28:07.280
suite
00:28:07.740
is
00:28:08.060
scared
00:28:08.500
to
00:28:08.720
death
00:28:09.060
of
00:28:09.360
the
00:28:09.540
shareholder
00:28:10.040
activist
00:28:10.620
is
00:28:10.900
scared
00:28:11.220
to
00:28:11.440
death
00:28:11.760
of
00:28:12.280
the
00:28:12.420
24
00:28:12.940
year
00:28:13.240
old
00:28:13.460
children
00:28:13.840
that
00:28:14.100
they've
00:28:14.340
hired
00:28:14.600
out of
00:28:14.880
woke
00:28:15.120
universities
00:28:15.780
who
00:28:16.060
are
00:28:16.180
demanding
00:28:16.600
that
00:28:17.100
they
00:28:17.260
virtue
00:28:17.560
signal
00:28:18.040
and
00:28:18.960
it
00:28:19.940
used
00:28:20.240
to
00:28:20.380
be
00:28:20.480
the
00:28:20.660
case
00:28:21.020
that
00:28:21.280
the
00:28:23.040
CEOs
00:28:23.560
believed
00:28:24.040
well
00:28:24.360
if I
00:28:25.400
give
00:28:25.680
in to
00:28:25.940
the
00:28:26.100
mob
00:28:26.440
it'll
00:28:27.140
appease
00:28:27.500
the
00:28:27.660
mob
00:28:27.900
and I
00:28:28.140
can
00:28:28.260
go do
00:28:28.520
what I
00:28:28.720
want
00:28:29.040
and I
00:28:30.120
gotta
00:28:30.360
say
00:28:30.720
that
00:28:30.920
there's
00:28:31.320
a
00:28:31.460
constellation
00:28:32.020
now
00:28:32.740
of
00:28:33.000
three
00:28:33.520
events
00:28:34.040
in
00:28:34.240
fairly
00:28:34.700
quick
00:28:35.020
order
00:28:35.340
there's
00:28:36.800
Disney
00:28:37.260
and
00:28:38.320
when
00:28:39.160
Disney
00:28:39.800
came out
00:28:41.020
vocally
00:28:41.520
against
00:28:42.220
Florida's
00:28:43.140
law
00:28:43.440
prohibiting
00:28:44.100
the teaching
00:28:44.960
of sexually
00:28:45.440
explicit
00:28:45.860
information
00:28:46.400
to
00:28:46.620
children
00:28:47.040
the
00:28:47.860
backlash
00:28:48.360
was
00:28:48.780
significant
00:28:49.320
when
00:28:49.700
when
00:28:49.920
the
00:28:50.060
legislature
00:28:50.560
acted
00:28:51.100
to
00:28:51.420
strip
00:28:51.880
Disney's
00:28:52.940
special
00:28:53.320
tax
00:28:53.740
subsidy
00:28:54.280
and
00:28:54.600
exemption
00:28:55.040
from the
00:28:55.500
ordinary
00:28:55.800
rules
00:28:56.180
in Florida
00:28:56.580
law
00:28:56.880
that was
00:28:57.640
one of
00:28:57.920
the very
00:28:58.220
first
00:28:58.920
big
00:29:00.840
consequences
00:29:01.780
to a
00:29:03.020
company
00:29:03.300
going
00:29:03.640
woke
00:29:03.940
then you
00:29:04.560
had Bud
00:29:05.020
light
00:29:05.300
and Bud
00:29:05.720
light
00:29:05.980
likewise
00:29:06.680
not
00:29:08.940
understanding
00:29:09.720
or respecting
00:29:10.400
its customers
00:29:11.100
and the
00:29:11.500
reaction
00:29:11.960
was
00:29:12.420
swift
00:29:13.300
from the
00:29:14.700
customers
00:29:15.240
who
00:29:15.560
found that
00:29:17.460
they could
00:29:17.760
switch to
00:29:18.420
another
00:29:18.700
beer
00:29:19.100
and another
00:29:20.120
light beer
00:29:20.600
really quite
00:29:21.160
easily
00:29:21.620
and quite
00:29:22.520
costlessly
00:29:23.240
and that
00:29:24.120
cost has been
00:29:24.860
significant for
00:29:25.740
Anheuser-Busch
00:29:26.420
and now
00:29:27.400
thirdly
00:29:27.880
Target
00:29:28.260
and Target
00:29:29.460
nine billion
00:29:30.220
dollars in
00:29:30.920
just a few
00:29:31.580
days
00:29:31.960
that's a lot
00:29:33.180
of money
00:29:33.500
that's a lot
00:29:34.060
of money
00:29:34.320
any way
00:29:34.740
you look
00:29:35.160
at it
00:29:35.540
and
00:29:35.760
it's
00:29:38.460
you know
00:29:39.620
Target
00:29:40.040
is trying
00:29:40.500
to wrap
00:29:40.980
themselves
00:29:41.580
in
00:29:42.000
oh
00:29:42.400
we're
00:29:42.760
just
00:29:43.140
you know
00:29:43.940
defending
00:29:44.520
pride
00:29:45.180
and you
00:29:46.000
know
00:29:46.120
people
00:29:46.420
who are
00:29:46.620
LGBT
00:29:47.080
they shop
00:29:48.220
too
00:29:48.460
and that's
00:29:48.800
true
00:29:48.960
they do
00:29:49.420
but
00:29:50.240
Target
00:29:52.060
was not
00:29:52.600
simply
00:29:53.020
selling
00:29:53.440
to all
00:29:53.920
their
00:29:54.100
customers
00:29:54.620
straight
00:29:55.580
or gay
00:29:56.060
it was
00:29:57.260
rather
00:29:57.760
aggressively
00:29:59.000
directing
00:29:59.860
this propaganda
00:30:00.940
at kids
00:30:01.560
at little
00:30:02.120
kids
00:30:02.620
at three
00:30:03.580
year olds
00:30:04.020
at toddlers
00:30:04.820
at babies
00:30:05.660
and I gotta
00:30:07.000
say
00:30:07.380
that is
00:30:08.280
extreme
00:30:08.980
it is
00:30:10.700
only
00:30:11.300
well
00:30:12.120
it's actually
00:30:13.480
as we pointed
00:30:14.280
out in the
00:30:14.660
last podcast
00:30:15.540
they literally
00:30:16.420
hired
00:30:17.060
a self
00:30:18.460
identified
00:30:19.220
satanist
00:30:20.620
to design
00:30:22.160
the display
00:30:22.880
and
00:30:23.480
they're
00:30:24.160
selling
00:30:24.640
clothing
00:30:25.220
with
00:30:26.260
explicit
00:30:26.920
appeals
00:30:27.640
to the
00:30:28.060
devil
00:30:28.340
like
00:30:29.300
I'm
00:30:30.180
sorry
00:30:30.660
what
00:30:31.560
imbecile
00:30:32.900
at Target
00:30:33.500
said
00:30:33.840
you know
00:30:34.260
what our
00:30:35.260
customers
00:30:35.720
really want
00:30:36.600
more satanic
00:30:38.260
worship
00:30:38.660
and maybe
00:30:39.580
satanic
00:30:40.180
worship
00:30:40.580
combined
00:30:41.260
with convincing
00:30:42.260
two year olds
00:30:43.260
that they really
00:30:44.940
should have sex
00:30:45.820
and be gay
00:30:47.080
like
00:30:47.780
what
00:30:48.400
and be
00:30:49.660
transgender
00:30:50.180
and be
00:30:51.000
too
00:30:51.280
like
00:30:52.100
how exactly
00:30:54.160
does that
00:30:54.720
pitch
00:30:55.240
go
00:30:55.720
and is
00:30:56.040
there
00:30:56.180
anyone
00:30:56.620
in the
00:30:56.960
room
00:30:57.240
that
00:30:57.460
says
00:30:57.740
well
00:30:58.880
gosh
00:30:59.320
maybe
00:31:00.760
some
00:31:01.060
of our
00:31:01.280
customers
00:31:01.680
just
00:31:01.960
want
00:31:02.220
us
00:31:03.060
to
00:31:03.240
leave
00:31:03.400
their
00:31:03.660
kids
00:31:03.960
alone
00:31:04.340
I do
00:31:05.820
think
00:31:06.160
there
00:31:06.420
is
00:31:06.840
the
00:31:08.080
cumulative
00:31:08.720
effect
00:31:09.400
of
00:31:10.540
Disney
00:31:11.100
and then
00:31:11.800
Bud Light
00:31:12.380
and then
00:31:12.760
Target
00:31:13.140
it's much
00:31:15.080
greater than
00:31:15.660
additive
00:31:16.020
because I
00:31:16.620
think it
00:31:16.900
is a
00:31:17.140
deterrent
00:31:17.820
to the
00:31:18.840
next
00:31:19.100
company
00:31:19.500
thinking
00:31:19.860
about
00:31:20.180
doing
00:31:20.460
this
00:31:20.760
you know
00:31:21.000
we already
00:31:21.440
have
00:31:21.720
information
00:31:22.240
from within
00:31:22.720
Target
00:31:23.060
there
00:31:23.280
saying
00:31:23.560
we don't
00:31:24.060
want
00:31:24.180
to be
00:31:24.360
Bud Light
00:31:24.720
we don't
00:31:25.020
want
00:31:25.160
to be
00:31:25.320
Bud Light
00:31:25.740
well
00:31:25.900
you know
00:31:26.100
what
00:31:26.220
the next
00:31:26.540
company
00:31:26.840
is going
00:31:27.060
to say
00:31:27.300
we don't
00:31:27.800
want
00:31:27.920
to be
00:31:28.080
Bud Light
00:31:28.400
or Target
00:31:28.780
we don't
00:31:29.060
want
00:31:29.180
to be
00:31:29.340
Bud Light
00:31:29.660
or Target
00:31:30.120
that starts
00:31:31.800
to get
00:31:32.060
really powerful
00:31:53.060
all at
00:31:53.660
different stages
00:31:54.300
of their
00:31:54.800
journey
00:31:55.120
so if
00:31:55.920
you're
00:31:56.200
looking
00:31:56.440
to
00:31:56.620
connect
00:31:56.980
then we
00:31:57.480
hope
00:31:57.660
you'll
00:31:57.840
join
00:31:58.080
us
00:31:58.420
listen
00:31:58.780
to
00:31:58.940
the
00:31:59.080
honest
00:31:59.320
talk
00:31:59.520
podcast
00:32:00.040
on
00:32:00.220
iHeart
00:32:00.640
radio
00:32:00.980
or
00:32:01.260
wherever
00:32:01.580
you listen
00:32:02.000
to your
00:32:02.220
podcasts
00:32:02.740
you know
00:32:04.540
there's
00:32:04.780
something else
00:32:05.240
about this
00:32:05.740
too that's
00:32:06.320
really shocking
00:32:07.020
to me
00:32:07.560
Target
00:32:08.380
seems to
00:32:09.280
understand
00:32:09.840
that they
00:32:10.160
don't want
00:32:10.500
to be
00:32:10.720
don't want
00:32:11.720
to become
00:32:12.040
Bud Light
00:32:12.500
but at the
00:32:13.440
same time
00:32:14.080
their internal
00:32:14.680
memos that
00:32:15.300
have been
00:32:15.560
leaked
00:32:15.940
show that
00:32:16.920
they're not
00:32:17.440
backing down
00:32:18.160
from selling
00:32:18.820
these goods
00:32:19.440
they're just
00:32:20.660
redesigning
00:32:21.980
how they're
00:32:22.460
showcasing
00:32:23.140
them
00:32:23.380
within
00:32:23.740
their
00:32:24.020
stores
00:32:24.420
and
00:32:25.080
specifically
00:32:25.720
it says
00:32:26.440
within
00:32:26.820
southern
00:32:27.340
stores
00:32:27.820
in southern
00:32:28.380
states
00:32:28.880
in other
00:32:29.200
words
00:32:29.440
when you
00:32:30.060
when you
00:32:30.540
walked
00:32:30.840
into the
00:32:31.280
Target
00:32:31.600
that was
00:32:31.920
right by
00:32:32.200
my house
00:32:32.660
it's
00:32:33.180
it was
00:32:33.600
the first
00:32:34.140
thing you
00:32:34.620
saw
00:32:34.920
when you
00:32:35.180
walk
00:32:35.460
in
00:32:35.620
this
00:32:35.780
massive
00:32:36.260
pride
00:32:36.960
with the
00:32:37.680
Target
00:32:38.100
pride
00:32:39.420
that the
00:32:40.580
section
00:32:40.940
was very
00:32:41.440
clearly
00:32:41.780
there
00:32:42.140
now they're
00:32:43.220
moving
00:32:43.580
that section
00:32:44.900
away from
00:32:45.920
the front
00:32:46.280
of the
00:32:46.520
store
00:32:46.860
but the
00:32:47.660
goods that
00:32:48.260
they were
00:32:48.600
selling are
00:32:49.160
still in
00:32:49.780
the store
00:32:50.360
and they
00:32:51.380
even said
00:32:51.980
in their
00:32:52.260
own
00:32:52.700
internal
00:32:53.680
email
00:32:54.080
it says
00:32:54.360
to the
00:32:54.680
teams who
00:32:55.180
have been
00:32:55.420
working so
00:32:56.080
hard on
00:32:56.460
our plans
00:32:56.960
for pride
00:32:57.660
and now
00:32:58.760
are showing
00:32:59.220
incredible
00:32:59.620
agility as
00:33:00.360
we adjust
00:33:00.840
thank you
00:33:01.360
your efforts
00:33:02.180
will ensure
00:33:03.300
we can still
00:33:04.040
show up
00:33:04.640
and celebrate
00:33:05.100
pride in
00:33:05.840
meaningful ways
00:33:06.920
they also
00:33:07.940
went on to
00:33:08.340
say that
00:33:08.720
the LGBTQIA
00:33:10.040
plus community
00:33:10.660
one of the
00:33:11.080
hardest parts
00:33:11.760
in all of
00:33:12.660
this was
00:33:13.460
trying to
00:33:13.940
contemplate how
00:33:14.640
the adjustments
00:33:15.340
we're making
00:33:16.000
that we're
00:33:17.560
making to
00:33:18.100
alleviate these
00:33:18.740
threats
00:33:19.100
quote to
00:33:19.740
our team's
00:33:20.400
physical and
00:33:21.240
psychological
00:33:21.740
safety would
00:33:22.560
impact you
00:33:23.160
and your
00:33:23.480
well-being
00:33:24.420
and psychological
00:33:25.160
safety
00:33:25.840
we stand
00:33:26.400
with you
00:33:26.940
they say
00:33:27.700
now and
00:33:28.280
basically
00:33:28.600
forever
00:33:29.060
this is the
00:33:30.460
part that I
00:33:31.020
think is
00:33:31.260
shocking about
00:33:31.980
Target not
00:33:32.720
learning
00:33:33.120
they're basically
00:33:34.360
saying that if
00:33:35.120
you're against
00:33:35.900
them doing this
00:33:36.680
to kids
00:33:37.140
that somehow
00:33:38.060
you're attacking
00:33:38.980
them and
00:33:40.460
their workers
00:33:41.200
psychologically
00:33:42.100
and their
00:33:43.320
well-being
00:33:43.900
in other words
00:33:44.580
well it's
00:33:45.020
these mother's
00:33:46.380
fault
00:33:46.960
it's these
00:33:47.920
women who are
00:33:48.620
not shopping
00:33:49.240
here's fault
00:33:49.760
that we're
00:33:50.080
having to
00:33:50.440
do this
00:33:50.900
and we
00:33:51.440
still stand
00:33:52.020
by you
00:33:52.460
we're still
00:33:53.040
selling
00:33:53.520
everything
00:33:53.940
senator
00:33:54.380
but we're
00:33:55.400
going to
00:33:55.560
move it
00:33:55.860
around and
00:33:56.420
place it
00:33:56.880
in different
00:33:57.220
areas and
00:33:57.820
don't worry
00:33:58.420
we're still
00:33:58.860
going to
00:33:59.140
accomplish our
00:33:59.820
agenda here
00:34:00.220
we're not
00:34:00.740
going to say
00:34:01.320
we got it
00:34:01.920
wrong
00:34:02.240
well and
00:34:04.080
you notice
00:34:04.760
Target is
00:34:05.560
engaging in
00:34:06.380
the same
00:34:06.740
sleight of
00:34:07.240
hand that
00:34:08.160
left-wing
00:34:08.640
activists and
00:34:09.420
the corrupt
00:34:09.820
corporate media
00:34:10.540
did in
00:34:11.660
the fight
00:34:12.560
over the
00:34:13.240
law in
00:34:13.700
Florida
00:34:14.060
concerning
00:34:14.660
teaching kids
00:34:15.580
about sexuality
00:34:16.460
remember they
00:34:17.360
branded that
00:34:18.120
law don't
00:34:18.780
say gay
00:34:19.240
and they
00:34:19.600
said this
00:34:19.940
is all
00:34:20.280
about gay
00:34:20.760
rights
00:34:21.080
this is all
00:34:21.600
about just
00:34:22.320
efforts to
00:34:24.440
suppress the
00:34:25.220
LGBT community
00:34:26.280
the law in
00:34:28.040
Florida as you
00:34:29.180
and I have
00:34:29.500
talked about at
00:34:30.060
length I
00:34:30.560
which they
00:34:31.660
wrongly called
00:34:32.400
the don't
00:34:32.780
say gay law
00:34:33.480
I view as
00:34:34.880
the don't
00:34:35.500
say sex law
00:34:36.260
don't say gay
00:34:36.880
don't talk about
00:34:37.520
gay sex
00:34:38.000
don't talk about
00:34:38.560
straight sex
00:34:39.200
with five-year-olds
00:34:40.520
leave five-year-olds
00:34:42.340
alone the law
00:34:43.060
applied in Florida
00:34:44.380
to pre-KK
00:34:45.120
one two and
00:34:46.140
three fourth
00:34:47.040
grade Florida
00:34:47.880
law allowed you
00:34:48.660
Katie bar the
00:34:49.280
door get into
00:34:49.860
anything you
00:34:50.320
wanted in this
00:34:51.960
instance notice
00:34:52.800
targets entire
00:34:53.640
defense is all
00:34:54.640
just generically
00:34:55.860
about LGBT
00:34:57.520
it's not about
00:34:59.760
the fact that
00:35:00.440
they are targeting
00:35:01.300
infants literally
00:35:03.480
onesies for
00:35:05.420
infants and not
00:35:06.860
only that they're
00:35:07.640
selling clothing
00:35:09.120
for for young
00:35:10.640
girls to strap
00:35:11.820
their breasts
00:35:12.380
down to hide
00:35:13.180
their breasts and
00:35:14.000
they're selling
00:35:14.560
bathing suits for
00:35:16.480
three-year-old boys
00:35:18.080
to tuck their
00:35:19.300
genitalia in and
00:35:20.560
hide it like
00:35:21.920
that is look
00:35:24.260
that's extreme on
00:35:26.380
any measure
00:35:27.620
targeting children
00:35:28.760
and and what
00:35:29.940
target is trying
00:35:30.840
to do ironically
00:35:31.760
is cover that up
00:35:32.620
entirely by making
00:35:34.300
it broader and
00:35:35.100
more generic and
00:35:36.080
ignoring the the
00:35:38.860
the truly grotesque
00:35:40.420
part about what
00:35:41.060
they're doing
00:35:41.500
yeah I want to
00:35:42.440
ask you another
00:35:43.020
question about
00:35:43.680
this politically
00:35:44.420
and that is the
00:35:46.440
bud light
00:35:47.540
controversy was
00:35:48.920
predominantly we
00:35:50.040
now know from the
00:35:50.700
data that that's
00:35:51.580
been shared is
00:35:53.160
men saying I'm not
00:35:54.500
buying bud light
00:35:55.420
the nine billion
00:35:58.200
that disappeared
00:35:59.160
from target in a
00:36:00.220
week is we know
00:36:02.060
now from the data
00:36:02.740
is clearly women
00:36:03.620
what does this say
00:36:05.360
about not just
00:36:07.720
moms really now
00:36:09.480
getting involved in
00:36:10.380
standing up and
00:36:12.000
also what does this
00:36:13.120
mean going into
00:36:14.400
this next presidential
00:36:15.620
election and before
00:36:16.560
you answer that I
00:36:17.220
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center I've really been
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encouraged you know with
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the Disney and what
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happened at Disney we
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saw an initial kind of
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reaction from moms who
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said okay we're gonna
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boycott and then it's
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kind of disappeared
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Disney's doing fine
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moms wanted to have
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those moments with their
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kids they want to go to
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Disneyland we I've had
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this grand debate with
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many of my family and
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friends and but light
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happened and that was
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probably men standing up
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saying I'm not doing
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this target is women and
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it's and I'm so happy to
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see mothers that are being
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inspired and I think part
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of this was from the
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lockdowns and seeing what
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was happening their kids
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schools but this is
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amazing to witness
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mothers and I think this
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is going to play out with
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a lot more women running
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for office as
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conservatives we've seen
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some of that already
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happen in school board
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races around the country
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but this was an inspiring
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week for me to watch so
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many mothers take nine
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billion dollars out of
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the pockets of target
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well we are seeing and
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we have seen the power of
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women and moms when they
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get really engaged and they
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get really angry as you
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noted we're seeing it in
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school board races all
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over the country when they
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see what's being taught to
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their kids and they're
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outraged at the garbage
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being taught to their kids
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and they're flipping school
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board races nationwide
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either bunch of races in
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texas i've gotten actively
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involved in where we
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flip them from left-wing
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boards to to moms taking
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their schools back look we
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saw it powerfully in
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virginia and loudon county
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where where moms in
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virginia were angry at the
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arrogance of of the schools
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at at the left-wing
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propaganda at the critical
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race theory at covering up
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sexual assaults of little
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girls in in the girls
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bathroom in loudon county in
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in that instance by a boy in
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in in wearing a skirt and
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and those moms and many of
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those moms had voted for
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joe biden uh just the
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previous election but they
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flipped over and elected
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glenn youngkin that is a
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very powerful thing i think
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it also matters in terms of
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boycotts historically
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conservatives have typically
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been not very good at
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boycotts part of the
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problem is that that for
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some things it's it's hard
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to substitute disney's an
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example where you can be
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annoyed at disney but but
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if your kids really want to
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go to disney world that can
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be hard to say no to
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they're not a lot of
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alternatives there's six
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flags but but disney world
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is a pretty unique offering
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and for that matter disney's
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movies i mean look there's
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only one snow white or
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or cinderella or you know
00:40:17.020
toy story from pixar i mean
00:40:20.040
they're they're they're that
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is a difficult product for
00:40:24.680
many people to give up
00:40:25.760
permanently um i think the
00:40:27.920
same thing is true about
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pro sports i think lots of
00:40:30.780
sports fans are unhappy with
00:40:32.280
the nfl or the nba and all of
00:40:34.780
the woke nonsense but at the
00:40:36.300
same time people and i'll put
00:40:37.960
myself in this camp really
00:40:39.900
love going to sports events
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and cheering on their teams
00:40:43.060
and so it's a painful boycott
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what really came to bite bud
00:40:48.540
light is that wasn't a hard
00:40:50.980
boycott it it's difficult
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for nobody on planet earth
00:40:55.260
if you were going to order
00:40:56.120
a bud light to say i'll have
00:40:58.000
a course light like that's a
00:40:59.540
very simple substitution i'm
00:41:02.160
not sure many people could
00:41:03.480
could could go through a blind
00:41:05.040
taste test and tell the
00:41:06.100
difference and so it's it's
00:41:08.300
an easy substitution target
00:41:10.100
we'll see how prolonged and
00:41:13.380
easy a substitution it is
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there's walmart um you know
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there are alternatives i will
00:41:19.040
say targets are located in a lot
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of areas and very convenient
00:41:23.260
for a lot of shoppers so we'll
00:41:25.420
see if this becomes a persistent
00:41:27.840
consequence or not but whether it
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is sustained the fact that it was
00:41:33.940
so concentrated and intense has i
00:41:37.480
think certainly made a real
00:41:38.660
impression on the target
00:41:41.200
executives i hope but also on the
00:41:44.260
next executives and and you and i
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have talked about before if we want
00:41:47.440
to stop corporate america from
00:41:49.700
going woke we've got to change the
00:41:52.620
cost benefit analysis so that when
00:41:54.460
the next executives are thinking
00:41:56.020
about it the downside of the ledger
00:41:59.660
is bigger and more problematic and i
00:42:02.860
do think the last couple of weeks
00:42:05.540
have dramatically increased the
00:42:08.080
downside not just for these
00:42:10.040
companies but for every other and
00:42:12.040
that's a good thing for those of us
00:42:14.000
that would like companies just to
00:42:15.320
get back to selling their damn
00:42:17.000
products and keep their idiotic
00:42:19.280
politics out of our lives yeah
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great point a great point to end on
00:42:22.940
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