A crazy week for Elon Musk
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On this episode of the podcast, I sit down with and to discuss the latest in the Elon Musk saga, the new deal for elon musk to buy the company, and the future of the cesspool that is Twitter.
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well let's start on some of the stuff you've been going on where do you want to go well let's start
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with elon musk it's a popular subject that's your most recent column i believe uh he's uh you said
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it's been a crazy week for him well yeah i got i i like elon musk a bunch yes i really do because
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you never know what's next with him you know and he got the uh i guess the twitter shareholders
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have to vote on the decision to let him buy the place i don't know when that comes down i think
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it's the end of this week and maybe early next week i'm not sure but i'm sure they'll do it
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because they're getting close to i think it's 14 bucks a share more than what they're worth if
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you take elon's deal um so i'm excited to see that i think twitter is a cesspool i hate it
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i go there if i'm feeling too happy um so hopefully he gets control and turns it into the kind of
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media vehicle that really should be which is uh wide open thoughts for all you know i think he
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does have to regulate some of the the divisive comments and and maybe smarten people up on that
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but i mean you can't you can't have all one political party marching down one social media
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highway so that i think will open it up what was the other thing happened to him oh his son became a
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girl oh yeah changed your name from xavier to vivian apparently they don't get along too well
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so that was the other thing that happened to him you know what i can't remember the other one what i
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mean he is a disruptor he shakes the establishment and they gotta love it i mean there's parts of
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stuff he does i don't like you know he took a lot of subsidies for tesla and things like that and i'm
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not big on that but uh whatever he's not supposed to say no to it he's he's not a uh but you know but
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that's the test thing i i agree with you and to a degree i disagree because somebody was going to
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get that money somebody who built electric vehicles was going to get them it's the system and the
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the direction that's the problem so is he supposed to murder himself or i think that if anybody's
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going to get the money i'd rather have it go to somebody like musk uh who's who's more of an
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entrepreneur i mean he's he's come over to the right side uh voted republican for the first time in his
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life um and andy's a uh uh disturber oh yeah which i love i love that i think that you have to be
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in this day and age to to wake up people who are walking around in some kind of haze
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and then something happens like that and they go oh okay i'll pay attention to this well and he exposed
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just how biased twitter become like they denied it but just with the reaction of twitter staff
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and some media members and some partisan members just when all he was saying is i'm going to buy it
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and i'm going to open it up i'm not going to slide it to the right i'm not going to do it i'm just going
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to open it up and they went haywire they went crazy how dare you well that shows just how sick the the
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management had become of this company well not just the management but but the the thinking on that far
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left platform because they're screaming well we know we're going to lose our free speech and by saying
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you can't do it they're taking away free speech so i don't know that they understand what they're
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talking about well the left rarely understands free speech very much it's really like economics with
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them they tend to have economics yeah so uh that's for other people but but i mean interesting things
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that he's talked about i mean as you said yeah and there's some commenters saying to twitter's assess
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bullets it's the cesspool i like swimming and though i have a good old time on twitter myself you
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know i could go on there i might last two minutes yeah but there's tricks to twitter people have to
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understand block just block it only takes you a second if they're if you've got some bot after
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you or some lunatic or some jerk just block them it only takes a second the responsibility is yours
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if more people would just do that instead of indulging good point uh and and the other part is
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that one thing i like what must talk about was possibly coming up with a way to verify identities yes
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because it's the anonymity that the you know people hide behind that's one of the worst uh things that's
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how the bots exist that's how some people just cross the line i mean not forcing everybody to
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verify but at least there would be a different category right now there's just blue checks and
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the rest well there could be a behind the scenes verification it doesn't need to go public well
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that's it it's just to show we've proven that you're an individual behind there and there's only
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one account and there's that and then you can have whatever you know big name in front that you like
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i'd go with cory morgan the second there we go right here but i mean it's not a bad you know proposition
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and it's amazing how much more polite people get when they're not anonymous well yeah yeah if
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somebody's hiding behind a cement wall they don't get they'll call you any name in the book but if
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they stand on top of that wall not so much no no and then i like where he's going with that so i mean
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let's hope it goes through i mean he's got to go through the shareholders they said that the big one
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was the board and they grudgingly basically said well we can't stop this so they give him the thumbs up
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as you said it's a good share price deal if it carries on from there so i remember what the other one was
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the uh employees who uh are suing him for getting fired oh that's right yes and uh there was another
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thing just to talk about that free speech and how left doesn't understand it whatever else i saw this
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this snide comment well on twitter of all places but with a columnist saying uh uh oh look the great
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champion of free speech has fired people for for speaking up against well sure i mean if i if i went
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online and started doing nothing but bitch about the western standard and talk about how horrible it is and
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how bad derek was you know what i'm probably gonna get fired you should do that because i could get
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your show just kidding you're careful what you're asking for uh but that's not an infringement of my
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free speech i'd still be able to yell my head off about how bad the western standard is the day after
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getting fired i just i just don't have their platform anymore to do it well you know they they're the
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kind of people who they take one step after one step after one step to see how far they can go
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and eventually they get slapped and it's all oh infringing my rights uh but they will they'll
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disappear now they will now disappear because they've been stopped well there's a i like your
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brick wall analogy i remember a meme i've seen going around or a cartoon it shows a i mean usually a
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woman but she's got a pile of manure and she's throwing it over the wall throwing it over the wall
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throwing it over the wall and it's one turd comes flying back and hits her i'm being oppressed yeah
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exactly hang on you guys you know you started it but yeah it's just fun to watch musk he's a
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fascinating he is fascinating you know and and not to do direct comparison but he reminds me of trump
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uh in in the way that well let's do this and see what happens you know or i he's the kind of guy who
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says i'm going to do this and he gets it done yeah and he takes it on his own shoulders he doesn't
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blame anybody else if it fails i think so the difference i mean they're both irreverent i'll give
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them that absolutely uh i think trump though was a bit more of just all this love the turd into the
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punch bowl and sees what happens but i think musk he doesn't care what the world thinks we try but
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he's got a little more planning and plotting with what he does he has more of a uh a direction with
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more sophisticated well there's that too so uh but i mean as far as just not being afraid of the
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establishment and willing to go in there and mix it up and shake them up which they really need
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uh it's good to watch so yeah just keep watching his development i mean if you're going to be a
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billionaire at least be an interesting one oh i think i think with uh musk there's much more to
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come yeah absolutely so getting on to uh other areas then let's get into government i'm scrolling
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through your stories uh china using digital handcuffs oh frightening that is frightening um you know and
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what is really frightening i think is it's not new i mean if you look at what was going on in germany
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in the 30s and the 40s or or or russia in the 20s where you couldn't step outside your door without
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showing some id and they didn't have green and red codes in germany they had german and yellow codes
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for the jewish people so they back then they were marking people and the chinese doing this i don't
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know um that's they i foresee the day and i think i wrote this that you're going to have to take your
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phone and scan it by the gas pump and may come up and say request denied you're over your quota
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um because the government could do that that's why i mean if we're going to have digital id i think
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that's a fait accompli i really do and and if you look at it it's probably a lot more convenient to
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have your driver's license your passport credit cards all your other id on one little device you
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push your button and go there it is you're not ruffling into your pockets and stuff like that
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the issue obviously is is government interference their involvement in the thing i mean when they
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when the health code qrs came out last year uh i said no i'm not doing that because i don't trust them
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and if i can't go to a restaurant or or whatever for a couple weeks that's fine
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but i'm not i do not want them tracking me on my phone even though i know they are yeah that's part of
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it i mean don't disillusion you know or delude yourself they've got a pretty good idea i'm aware
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of that i'm sure that they know i'm here right now because i got my phone on yeah um but for
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for them to be able to manipulate your life based on information in your phone yeah they're manipulating
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your behavior yes and it's uh social engineering it's a term i'm trying to bring back you know we
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talked a lot about that term in the 90s and it kind of faded but it's a big one it's where the
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government feels so high and mighty that is their role for our own good to change our behavior to
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change what we want to do change what we choose to do and that you know or they're calling a social
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credit system in china uh where yeah if you you do the wrong things yeah we make sorry you can't pump
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gas today you uh didn't flush at the toilet what you use down the road yeah and even know all that
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stuff and that's that's that's what's frightening i mean my understanding of the health cure codes for
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the covet thing that we had here is that that's all that recorded and none of that information was
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sent to a government data bank i don't know if i believe that or not but i want to believe it
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but i don't want to see that china syndrome coming in oh and information is everything and the
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government's a terrible steward of it i i had a guest on uh recently and they were with a group
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open media i think but it was um the apps used for kids homeschooling while uh you know remote schooling
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while everything was in lockdown turns out the company that was doing that was sucking in all the
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information on those kids and sold the data uh you know for for data miners i mean again it doesn't uh
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mean that you know they're necessarily doing much besides commercial utilization of all that data and
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everything but that's a big infringement on uh you know personal privacy and liberty so and and having
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you having listened to you say that maybe it's too late maybe maybe it's a it's gonna happen but it's
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something that that everybody should fight in some way form fashion or another because i do know
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that when you're if you're up against the left in terms of an argument or a physical fight they'll
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back away they will not fight with you if you all you have to do is overpower them and that goes
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with the government now i'm not suggesting revolution no no but uh i mean obviously
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our weapons are in the polling booth and um so it's very important that people really pay attention
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especially with all the political stuff going on right now that that stuff is possible that it does
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exist and it could come into your life depending on who has the reins to the wagon and i don't honestly
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believe the conservatives would would do that oh well i think that well they'd be less bad
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i just always don't like i mean i don't like government control on any level no i'm with you
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there never assume they're going to be benign unfortunately uh the conservative i think the
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conservatives are less inclined that's inclined um if they're in power too long i think that's one of
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the issues that happens too when they get in too long then they really feel that sense of entitlement
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on our movements yeah but that's true with any any government i think yeah i mean governments like
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laundry you got to wash them every four years oh yeah for the same reason when we're talking about diapers
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are under where yes and it fills with that product that we just don't need exactly and uh but uh it's
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distressing but i mean the government is scared when they push back i mean look at
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i mean the the things that happened this year you know the the protests that came in the truckers
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convoy whether you support them or you don't support them i mean that was unprecedented seeing
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that many canadians those polite quiet passive canadians showing up by the thousands on parliament hill
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crossing a country raising you know over 10 million dollars that terrified the government i
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mean that's why the government overreacted so badly in in response to it i i think that the convoy itself
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didn't terrify the government because of what they did uh doing the emergencies act and and just
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ignoring them i think what really scared them was how much they had misjudged canadian people when they
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started fighting back against the convoy and doing all these illegal things that they were doing
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people stood up and they got angry and they voiced european and they're going this is not canada
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what are you doing and i think in the little hobbles and huts in in ottawa they went oh we've gone too
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far we better pull this back well they embarrassed themselves internationally that was part of it too i
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mean you know countries all over the world like the hell is going on over there what are you doing i mean not
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only are your citizens that livid but what do you mean you're imposing this emergencies act upon them
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this is just a protest like it it's not history is not going to smile on the actions of government
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this you know and it's one thing for all the because initially at that conference i can't remember where
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it was in belgium but trudeau took took shots from a whole lot of european leaders yeah but last week
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he took shots in the house of congress uh uh guy stood up in in the u.s house and said trudeau is a bad
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person i'm paraphrasing but that's basically what he said and when when somebody that close to home
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is saying it somebody who's you know open border friendly neighbor stuff like that that's really
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got to dig deep he's really overstaying his welcome even i'm seeing some liberal columnists
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are starting to kind of say you know this guy is got to go or a don martin's piece just to you know
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i wouldn't call him a liberal communist necessarily but he's an establishment one for sure
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yes and then he just ripped trudeau to shreds in that thing and they're standing up and ripping
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at him this is not a good indication for trudeau's future but you know i wonder if if you guys like
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don martin and you see going on in the states right now too the backlash against biden but is that the
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media flashing a warning to people like trudeau and biden saying clean up your game is that what
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they're doing or they do they really want to get rid of them well i could see them wanting to get rid of
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and put another liberal in no no there's no question about that yeah i'm just wondering if
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they did they like firing a shot across the bow it could be i mean at this point you know this is just
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uh it's just starting right now so you know shape up or or we're going to really get at you yeah but
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you know it's going to take a lot more i mean that's what david and i were talking with the news
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check-in like with this this thing breaking with the apparent police interference into uh the the
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investigation uh well prime ministerial interference potentially this is huge and why are we hearing more
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about how did you get away with and he i could i think in any rational country he'd be toast oh yeah
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but i i think he'll get away with it again saying canada is not rational no i don't think it is i
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mean what does it take to get rid of this guy i don't know i don't know i've got some ideas but i
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think we'll just zip that yeah no no we don't need to be i understand some things that'll work but it'll
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lead to some other difficulties that uh we were uh i mean so i mean one of the other pressures i was
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ranting a bit about that before you came in and you've talked about that with uh interest rate
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height rate hikes you write a lot on real estate that's a you know one of your main areas of writing
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and things like that and we've got some serious financial pressures going on inflation is huge
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and of course that pushes for more interest rate hikes and you get into an ugly cycle they could lead
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to a recession if they crank the interest too fast too hard and that's the hazard uh you know the
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bank of canada originally started talking about well we need to increase the interest rates to cool down
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the housing market which is fair enough but it missed the inflation thing and now all of a sudden
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inflation's up here what is it 7.7 i think was the latest may yeah and the the bank is going oh whoa
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the target is not housing kids it's not it's everything yes you know and the next bank announcement is
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july 13th and i think they're going to raise a 0.75 which would take the their overnight to 2.25
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and then they've got another meeting i believe in september and they'll do another 0.75 then they
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want to get it up above three they want to comfortably i think they want it three three point two five um
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the the normal range for the bank of canada is between two percent and three percent that's what they
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call the neutral zone but uh maclin has said to to get back to a neutral we got to go way above it
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so that's really going to be painful well and some of those stats that have been coming out i mean
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there's a frightening number of canadians who are they're this close they can't take a sudden hike in
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their mortgage payment every month like this could push them over the edge that's how you suddenly
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topple into a recession if you're not careful yeah and i you know there's i've read some stories you
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know the regular guys are out uh it's the end of the world runaway housing crash and i don't think
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that's going to happen and i'll tell you why is that i mean if you go back to what happened in 2008
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especially in the united states when we had that recession it's totally a different thing right now
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um the united states outlawed the bad mortgages that were being written uh canada introduced the
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mortgage stress test so you have you have to test higher than your actual rate to get a mortgage so
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most canadians are already paying or were tested that they could pay an extra two percent on their
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mortgages per month and still be not comfortable but they could manage it um so i think that that's
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that's where it's going on and the other thing i think we have to look at is that it it's going to be
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different in different parts of the country uh british columbia especially vancouver uh toronto and
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the entire golden horseshoe area are going to get it worse because they're so expensive carrying
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balances that are just unbelievable well yeah i mean the average average single family house in both
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those markets is plus two million dollars i mean where do you get a down payment for that i don't i don't
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know um saskatchewan and alberta i believe we're going to come out of it okay i think we'll get
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nicked but we're not going to get run over by a the bus i really don't think so toronto and and bc
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different stories i'm looking at the toronto or the calgary numbers all this week and overall sales
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are down slightly single family home sales are down uh semi-detached homes are down but the two cheapest
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stands town houses town houses and apartments are up and that's year over year in terms of sales and
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pricing the only uh area where the prices have dropped in calgary year over year and i hate using
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that is in a single family and an overall thing but people should be looking at not what what it was
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like last year um if you want to do comparisons and follow trends then you have to go compare this
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month's statistics to last month's statistics because that's immediate that's in the now um and
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and three months makes a trend uh so uh june is the third month really of any kind of a decline so
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whatever the numbers are at the end of this month i think will be a hard bringer not necessarily what's
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going to happen in the summer but certainly in september because the summer's a slow sale season anyway
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so and with the interest rates going it'll back off even more so it's going to look even worse
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due to year over year comparison but again that people shouldn't do that um there might not be a
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calamitous clash crash like as you said there was a different bubble that had been built all together
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in the states with a what was it pretty mac and whatnot where they were giving mortgages to people
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that had no business having one in the first place it was just asking for it someone was you're
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pointing out too like in 83 she was paying 23 percent uh and more paulette you know uh for
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interest on a mortgage like we aren't there i mean that was insane i mean people trying to maintain
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that we're creeping up but i mean it still will have an impact i mean if people aren't losing their
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houses you know they can make it as you said the stress test shows that but they're still going to
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cut back i mean it's look it's going to cut back yeah there's no question that hurts other sectors of
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the economy the thing is you're locked into that mortgage so that mortgage is going to take
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say another 20 25 a month that 20 25 dollars are going to be taken from somewhere else
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yeah there's no question about that it's another less meal or i mean and that sounds you know 25
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a month is pretty small it could get larger with a lot of larger depends on your market yeah and that
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people choose to take one less vacation or not go out for supper or not buy that furniture or hang
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on to the car for another year i mean lots of things people do yeah which i mean is good
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responsible budgeting but it has a ripple effect all the way down yeah economy well you know you've
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mentioned the economy the economy now is a lot different than it was back then it's more
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diversified the employment levels in all of canada are high they're solid um
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if if it's a really severe immediate recession then a lot of those jobs are going to be lost but i think
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it's going to be gradual let's hope so i mean we've just had a miserable enough few years we don't need a
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bloody crash yeah every every all the bad news every day so what's this uh you wrote uh that was
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a the other week though yeah the bc ranch with eight houses no only 24 million so there's still
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some people with some money selling somewhere well you know i was thinking about that see
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you've got eight homes there okay one 24 mil so you get eight people toss in three mill each
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and you could rotate the main house you know what i mean yeah so you're living in an eight million
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dollar place for three mill what's tough about that well the three mill you're doing better than
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i am i guess i understand the theory no i didn't say i could do it yeah i just showing off my math
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skills there are some big properties out there just you know just to point out some of the stuff
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you write on to and some of those columns i mean there's just stuff of interest and uh you know
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housing sort of issues um just uh one last thing i mentioned that in the email and while i got
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you and you're a beltline resident in calgary uh you know a big issue whether i've been ramping on
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a lot about is there's the crime on transit and so on but also the beltline in general like we've got
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a really big freaking problem going on right now and the city council that almost still wants to
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deny that it's even yeah they're you know i walked here from my place in the beltline took
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the eighth street underpass yeah that's where i go every day three guys down there doing cranking up
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right there on the street in front of everybody and i'm just like whoa because i've never seen
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that before that open on eighth street that kind of that time of day yeah they use that little stairwell
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all the time and they can sit there because that's where i walk to where i park and i see it that's
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part of what gets me worked up because i can see it well you know and the the season this season
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brings out uh the people because the nights are warmer they're longer and uh there's one poor lady i don't
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know her name i see her from a distance but every morning she's walking up and down off avenue yelling
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at the top of her voice she's obviously got some mental issues and i don't know why the authorities
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whoever they might be don't go and and pick her up and say look here's a bed for you here's some food
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here's some care just relax walk after you she's there every morning yeah well that's something that
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uh it's such a huge issue that whole thing like i i've reached out to uh uh i'm still waiting to
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try and get around as a guest woman who wrote a book about it but i mean deinstitutionalization
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we've taken a lot of people who we used to keep in facilities and with what thought was a more humane
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thing to do put them out in the community let them out and this is a lot of the people that have
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ended up on the streets or they end up in jail or they end up in hospitals uh because as you're saying
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that this woman yes clearly is distressed but do they have somewhere to put her if they pick her up
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that's yeah that's another good point i guess but there should be yeah i mean instead of
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instead of some of the stuff the city spends its money on our money sorry um it's their priorities
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that were all goofed up and goofed up isn't the phrase i meant but when they start spending things
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on pretty things you know or or trying to put uh apartments in downtown high-rises um that money
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could be better spent building a facility a big one because that's a lot of money they're spending
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on that and and no that's another thing that irks me when when the arena deal was going on everybody's
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screaming about well you can't spend tax money taxpayers money on that well don't they know that
00:24:50.240
the taxpayers money's building those residentials downtown um yeah so it's uh there's the the calgary
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housing corporation and things like that that are artificially purchasing that's a whole other
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it's bureaucracy yeah and and uh we've got a mayor who seems desperate for an emergency she really does
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she wants something to make her mark it's almost like she's envious which i i doubt he would consider
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it to be enviable all the same but the thing that really boosted nichi was the floods happened in 2013
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he provided a very good public face for it he was very communicative it really established him as the
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mayor and and helped him through what i think was a lot of horrible policies for years but people still
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were endeared to him part of what i agree i you know and i i go back to that and i think you know
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he doesn't deserve all that no he's not doing it he's walking around talking but uh if she wants an
00:25:41.120
emergency rather than a climate one look at the emergency on the street get out of your city hall go
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for a walk through the belt line ride a train we have a real emergency a real one you can make your
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legacy you can make your mark if you've got 87 billion you can spend on a climate plan i think
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you could find a billion as you said for a facility for people with mental health issues and addiction
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issues and get them off the streets and trains and you'd find the staff to look after them yeah 87
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billion or huh yeah it's insane it is totally but yeah i think you're right she she is looking for
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for an emergency where she can jump out in front of the parade and be the savior
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um i laughed about the building the berms on memorial drive yeah before the the water flow even
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called for it out west and now they're ripping it down so this 300 grand gone yeah um and and in 13
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uh the areas down around mission and elbow and 25th avenue that that was flooded for blocks no broom
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down there no just for those nice folks in parkdale where you can see it yeah there's part of it look
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what we're doing yeah we want you to see what we're doing yeah and there's also been a fixation
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at city health they just love closing memorial whenever the hell they can i know we got a thing
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but either way it's just a frustration you're living in the belt line i've noticed even you
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know the hipster in chief kara has realized there's a crime problem now that bicycles are getting stolen
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uh you know it didn't matter that everybody else has been getting hit but now that we got bikes well
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now we've got a crisis you know karai walcott the two of them who shut down the freedom marches here
00:27:08.720
uh by calling them a white supremacist and racist uh they don't do anything until one of their
00:27:15.840
constituents or two of them or maybe four calls up and said had my bike stolen yeah oh i'll get right
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on that never mind a hundred catalytic converters a day we're getting stolen from people's driveways
00:27:26.480
because these addicts would ride the trains out they go into the area with a portable cutter and hack
00:27:30.560
those things up people have been screaming about that for years it's not a problem i got a bicycle
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went missing but you know now we got an issue it reminds me of something that hillary clinton said
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the other day about telling the democrats in the united states get get away from the issues we're
00:27:46.240
being hurt by being vocal about all these issues that are going on just shut up and do whatever you
00:27:53.840
have to do to get us re-elected now there's kara there's walcott don't care about anything except
00:28:00.480
getting re-elected to hell with the problems yeah and again you're living in it down there and you
00:28:06.000
know we even hear from uh he points it out now and then the dinger and some other folks are living in
00:28:09.920
the belt line they've been raising the alarms they're saying hey this is getting bad down here
00:28:14.640
we we've got a you know an area that was 20 years ago was unimaginable you could walk the belt line at
00:28:19.040
night you never thought twice of it you get run across the odd drunk or weirdo that's normal but not
00:28:24.000
like now you know and as you said they're shooting up right under the bridge in the 80s we used to
00:28:28.720
growing up in banff you know go half a mile into the woods to smoke half a joint we're scared we're
00:28:33.760
going to be arrested and thrown in jail and now they're they're pumping heroin in the middle of
00:28:37.760
the streets yeah people walking by and i'm well i'm just and i'm just as guilty yeah just look straight
00:28:41.920
ahead and i will you know because what are you going to do you can't stop and say you shouldn't do that
00:28:45.920
no you don't know what kind of knife or gun they got going on oh yeah or they might be passive but
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there's still nothing you can do with them i mean those ones don't scare me as much as the meth heads
00:28:53.520
actually the heroin one unfortunately is probably going to kill themselves or or just flaw the meth heads are scary
00:28:57.760
the meth heads they go wild and they're the ones easy running into the streets or as a one of our
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staff members got delayed for work because one decided to lose bowel control in the middle of a
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crosswalk for a number of lights but again these were unimaginable things to mention 20 years ago and
00:29:12.880
look at it no oh well we can keep talking about keep trying to expose it maybe city hall will wake up
00:29:17.760
if enough bicycles get stolen or uh you know i don't know well yeah i think it's like i said earlier the
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ammunition that we've got is at the ballot box and we've got to be much better organized more informed
00:29:32.720
and i think as as conservative minded people we've got to get together in a single group instead of all
00:29:41.200
these different conservative groups um and and and you know one for all for one kind of thing
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uh because without that uh nothing will change no it's up to us we got the means we just got to get
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off our asses oh well all right well that was a good long chat i appreciate you coming in right
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and uh yeah it's always fun to have you and talk these issues and appreciate the columns as they keep
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coming so well we haven't solved all the world's problems we solved a couple i think well we solved
00:30:09.440
some but you create some more so you can come back and solve them later that's right well thanks for
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coming in mike good to see you okay great thank you we'll talk all right