A referendum on a referendum： Danielle Smith’s political tightrope
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In this episode of the call-in talk show, we discuss a referendum on independence from Alberta s premier, Danielle Smith. We discuss her decision to hold a referendum, what it means for the future of the province, and why she should or should not hold one.
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Actually, I think across the province, across the prairies,
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except maybe eastern Saskatchewan and western Manitoba.
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I guess you guys are sort of entering a bit of a hot streak right now,
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So much so that I might get the old paddleboard out tomorrow
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and go get on the bow river i haven't seen anybody on the bow river yet every year i always talk
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about doing this i've never done it but you know just when the ice is breaking up on the bow river
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i want to get my kayak or one of my canoes and go on the river when there's still a little bit
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of ice and maybe become the subject of uh of somebody else's uh photo essay you know crazy
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canuck goes out on the bow river i know that the fire department's out there practicing so they're
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getting ready for a busy season uh lots to talk about today oh check it out before i get into it
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look who's over my shoulder this shoulder do you guys recognize him just sort of behind the western
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standard logo there well if you don't that's uh steven gilbeau so we'll talk about gilbo today
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one of the reasons i'm so happy right now um and and the main topic though today well of course
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the show is all about you guys right the show's about you guys um it's we're doing a call-in talk
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show so it really is dependent on you guys and gals calling in and making the topics about things
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that you guys want to talk about and gals um and as i've said before if you call please leave your
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name and uh tell us where you're calling from and then what you want to talk about and don't be shy
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um things i want to talk about today i'll do a little bit of a monologue to start it off you
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know i want to the title today is i don't know if you guys can see the title i always provide
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a title sort of to to john maybe the title shows up on the youtube and on wherever platforms it
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doesn't show up directly on the screen but the title today of course is a referendum on a referendum
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you know danielle smith walking the tightrope uh i'll give my thoughts on that but other things
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definitely on uh on the topic hopefully today uh the jason kenney versus uh keith wilson debate was
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on monday that was a big event uh it's the five-year anniversary i think yesterday or the
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day before five-year anniversary of the cam loops residential school ground penetrating survey
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radar survey uh gilbo resigning other people potentially resigning the western premier's
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meeting in canaanaskis and a few other stories so all right so i have so uh subsequent to the
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show last week danielle smith had her press release and made a pre-recorded press release
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she didn't change it i thought she might change a few things in light of court rulings and uh and
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ministers resigning but no she had her press release and and she talked about exactly what
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she talked about what we thought she was going to talk about which is a question
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on independence on the referendum but she caught us off guard with the wording of that question
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right so danielle is committed to um she's committed to democracy okay so she's a libertarian
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she's committed to democracy and giving the citizens of alberta better tools so kenny's
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the one who gave us the the um citizens initiative act initially and then uh danielle refined it so
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the you know she's in favor of giving albertans a voice uh the voice that the attempt at first
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didn't work out too good uh court uh struck down the current petition and but danielle said that's
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not uh gonna stop the mock the will of the people right she recognizes that all toll there's about
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seven hundred thousand people who voice their opinion one way or another on on different
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petitions and want a referendum on independence so she's kind of compromising and she's giving us
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a reference she's going to give us a question and the question basically asks i don't know john if
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you can find the question the question asks uh the wording along the question is should we start
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the process of uh holding a referendum on independence so a referendum question on whether
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or not to hold a referendum i'll come back to that i i wanted to finish my little monologue
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but let's go because i already got a call on the line maybe we're going to have a busy day so go
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ahead caller where are you calling from and what's your name please wait are you able to hear me yeah
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absolutely okay so i'm actually in north idaho and i guess my question is that and i know that
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canadians are kind of world famous for holding meetings about future meetings to consolidate and
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maybe get consultations from endless groups to hold future meetings yeah is alberta really going
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to get played by i guess smith's base i guess i i see smith at least from an american point of view
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as kind of a gal who's going to rug pull you guys every time you guys get close to sniffing
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freedom or any form of independence especially since didn't she run on all kinds of stuff that
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should have already been done to make you guys more independent from ottawa uh 100 i mean no i
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Stay on the line because I got questions for you.
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I mean, yeah, it depends on the day you ask me the question.
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Someday when you ask me that exact question, I'd say, no, she's going to pull the rug on us.
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And other days I'd say, no, she's truly on board with providing as much of a democratic process as possible.
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this week i'd say uh if i finished my monologue i was going to say i was i'm leaning more towards
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she's naive and she's uh going down a very um naive path and she's almost interfering so um
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i mean it's a loaded question but but from so what's your what's your take from north idaho
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i'm i'm always interested so what what do americans think of what's going on in alberta
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specifically right now well because because we're right because we were
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we're right there at the border about 70 miles away and Albertans and then
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there's a there's a swat of British Columbians and Saskatchewans I guess but
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where they're normal they're regular people they work hard and I guess they
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kind of basically fund the rest of the country it's just kind of those things
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where you're kind of like one of those you just kind of view it like yeah these
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people didn't have a choice to become a province they're ran or they're
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absolutely full with conservative citizens yes their government never do
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anything to break any kind of independence from even smaller things
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it's almost like it's almost like the provinces all have to follow kind of
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like okay here you're gonna do your schooling this way okay you're gonna
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flood your area with a whole bunch of replacement pop you know you're gonna
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do all these things it's like our province is not allowed any kind of
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freedom in running their own their own retirement fund running their own schools
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the way that they want you know removing so it's just kind of weird that you've
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got so many salt-of-the-earth kind of people I mean they're also kind of they
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also they also not a party but salt-of-the-earth kind of people yet
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there they allow themselves to be kind of ran by pretty pretty I don't know
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what yeah like round here we call them rhinos but pretty weak it's almost like
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we're going to pass a new tax on you but here let's pray first yeah no listen boy we could you
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and i could probably have a long chat so i'll i appreciate the call i'll i'll let you go and but
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i'll keep answering well stay on the line i'll just answer a couple things back to your original
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question to your original question uh nobody's going to let us go easily it doesn't matter right
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so alberta is not going to be let go easily and danielle is playing this tightrope line of helping
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but not necessarily helping i mean we all recognize she's a politician she fundamentally
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took an oath to the king who's our sovereign leader and so she can't be bluntly openly
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separatist so so i think at the end of the day she's going to oppose more than help that's that's
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my thoughts um agree agree um to the other part we in canada we're different than you guys in the
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u.s i mean we're that's why alberta's fighting alberta's trying to fight we don't want to become
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an american state but we want to be kind of like you guys are and the way we were designed to be
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our original confederation was that each province was supposed to be as you describe uh its own
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health care its own republic it's a mini republic and then and confederation is just a collaboration
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but all ottawa has been overreaching and taking power over time and we're not we're a bunch of
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nice people who give up that power easily that's that's the answer so tonight yeah too nice yeah
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too compliant i and i don't know how you instill non-compliance we didn't fight the way you guys
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did you guys have a different start to history you fought for your independence from the king
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and after the king of england saw what you guys did the king said oh i better give the canadians
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a little bit of something but make sure they never do what the americans did so we were given a bit
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of freedom uh we didn't fight for it we didn't earn it and we certainly don't appreciate it the
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way you guys appreciate it that's my thoughts i appreciate the call man thanks for calling you're
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think you're my first american to call cheers i appreciate it keep up the great work all right
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thank you so uh wow great start so just to finish on the thoughts right and it his question do wrap
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into what i was going to say so danielle is offering um her her explanation is i got to keep
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the democratic process going the uh the albertans have a large percentage of albertan you know let's
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let's call it a third of the province is talking about independence and she can't allow the courts
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to just block that even though the courts have blocked it she will she will appeal it and uh
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and but she recognizes that could that the clock is going to run out for a referendum this year
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so she's giving us an alternative which is a referendum on a referendum i personally don't
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like that because now we have to win two referendums we have to win this one and if we don't win this
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one we're done and if we win this one then we get a referendum on independence and then we have to
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win that one so we have to win two in a row and that gives the other side two opportunities to
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knock us off and when i think about it at a high level i see danielle being a politician and playing
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um you know trying to please everybody trying to please the separatists trying to please
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the separatist side of her party trying to make sure nenshi doesn't get into power trying to appease
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um uh government workers who are worried about independence she's trying to work with ottawa
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and try it you know what i mean so she's to me she's walking a tightrope and it's it's too tight
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it's too risky and i think it's gonna she's i think she just made a misstep because if you
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look at what has happened to her this week her her claim like she the fact that she's helped
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that she's being democratic nobody's hearing that nobody nobody hears that all they hear
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or all they want to hear is that danielle is a separatist even though she keeps saying over and
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over and over and over that she's going to be on the stay side doesn't matter uh the mainstream
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media went all in on uh labeling her as a separatist and as pandering to a certain group
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right the separatist group so i so i i don't know i i see the events of thursday last week
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kind of backfiring on her but time will tell i mean luckily uh the alberta legislature is in
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recess right now until after the referendum until after october so we'll see what happens
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but on the same side um i see one of the people she's trying and leave that question up there
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john i'll get to it in a second but um part of the tightrope that also uh worries me is that she's
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keeps saying over and over right she that she's confident that she can get us a better deal
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within confederation right she's always said that she references the mou and stuff like that
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but on on the other side i don't think i think she's naive and thinking she can make the changes
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and i think she won't be and on the other side carney won't be able to make the changes we've
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seen it already this week right the moment he starts offering nice things to albertans like
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an mou with a potential pipeline the moment he starts the moment we are perceived as getting
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something nice the rest of the country the east gets upset we're not allowed to have nice things
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which is why that guy over my shoulder resigned yesterday he had quit um not the caucus but he had
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he had resigned as a minister last year when carney announced the mou that upset him that
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upset gilbo and now he's so upset that he actually quit he literally said i cannot stand by carney
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as he reverses all these policies whoa okay um i'll get back i'll get back to the question that's
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on the on the screen let's go to the caller because i don't want to lose callers online
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So go ahead, name. Where are you calling from, please?
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Nice to have you on the show. Sue, what's on your mind?
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I just noticed on the mainstream media lately, the separatists are being called irritated or frustrated.
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That's the names I can kind of remember, which seems kind of mild.
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And I thought that our side of the fence should start telling them how we really feel, that we're really mad, not irritated or frustrated.
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And with that in mind, I think we should also change the rhetoric that we say what's bothering us are the threats from Ottawa.
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things like i heard from jason kenney uh the other day about oh these separatists will lose
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their passport um yeah that's what they're going to lose um but i think we should uh emphasize
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more what's really going on and what we really feel about the censorship coming to us from bills
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in parliament that are going to uh clamp down on what we can say and what we can do um making
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haven't handed their guns in? Are they going to
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Stay on the line, Sue. Lots to unpack there. You brought up about three or four points and I'll try and, you know, maybe we'll have a back and forth. So you watched it. Did you watch the debate between Kenny and Keith? Or you just saw clips of it?
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yes i did okay um no i watched okay good um you know i i i i think there's going to be rhetoric
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on both sides for for a while i mean that's that's how unfortunately that's just the reality of the
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world but i also do think that um we're entering a new phase right during during there there was
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the re there was the petition collecting signatures and stuff like that and then there was the defeat
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by the courts and i think there's been a realization by the separatist movement that
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we can't be about rhetoric we need to start getting organized and and really building a
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case of why we're to your words we're we're frustrated we're mad right we're pissed off
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and and uh and i think we have valid reasons to be so and and i and when we i we're going to start
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raising the the reasons why it's not just pipelines right we're underrepresented in the
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house of commons we're underrepresented in the senate and even if we had the proportionate
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representation we're going to get overruled because there's 30 million people in that
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little triangle between you know ottawa toronto and montreal versus five of us here so um i i
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think the the tone of the debate might change but on the other hand you're right you got the other
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side that keeps throwing this really nasty um you know almost lies like you mentioned you know people
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are saying oh you're going to lose your passports and stuff like that which we know is not true
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so i i don't know how to exactly address i i think we will address that in the coming
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you know three four months we're gonna we're gonna tone down the rhetoric and get more to
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facts does that make sense or yes um i wasn't quite so worried about the passport thing i knew
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that was a lie as as that's really i feel what's going on here is lying but i'm i'm kind of more
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worried about these bills that they keep pushing through i know some of the stuff will be eliminated
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from the bills they'll tear them down to something more manageable but uh the loss of cash and the
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Those are two huge things that I really, really am worried about,
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We've got to show people really what the threats are.
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The threat is what's going to happen to us when we stay under Ottawa's rule.
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Yeah, I mean, I think you're preaching to the choir here.
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Almost everybody that's listening is on board with what you're saying, Sue.
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I mean, we get it. We just got to convince a handful, maybe a million of our fellow Albertans in particular.
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We don't even need to worry about the rhetoric that's coming from, let's say, Ottawa or whatever.
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Well, we do need to worry about it because it does sway some people.
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But more importantly, just focus on your, you know, your unconverted neighbors and convert them over to our system.
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Just before you go, we haven't talked about the gun grab in a while.
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and it's not even on the news, and you bring up a great point.
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Like in October, if the Liberals don't extend the amnesty,
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a whole bunch of us, like I'm predicting, you know,
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two, three hundred thousand Albertans will become criminal in the eyes of the law
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because they will be in noncompliance and they'll have banned firearms.
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That's something that the Liberals are absolutely going to have to address.
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And we've been critical of Danielle on that one, too,
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because she promised us something like an Alberta gun permit.
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I really think that our side of the fence should spread this...
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up on the screen. So I'm going to read that one from
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ferguson and i know that gentleman he's made comments on some of my other shows derp says
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smith can use the referendum ambiguity as a political versus ottawa she has no reason to
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resolve it lukazic's referendum isn't blocked and is useful let's let's support l's lukazic's to be
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on the ballot and push for no yeah i i think that sail that ship has sailed unfortunately derp i
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I think Danielle has told us what she's doing, and we're going to have a referendum on whether or not to have a referendum.
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John, while you leave that one up there, maybe find the question that Danielle proposed.
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And I'll read this one from R.C. Lamour for $20.
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Canadians will soon have to decide whether to stay together in the new Republic of Canada or go independent province by province with arrests looming in the federal and provisional governments.
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we are embarking on a new canada oof um yeah well that's what this summer is going to be about it's
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going to be an interesting summer um we're gonna the first part of your question i agree with
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this thing i guess i'm not aware of arrests looming in the federal and provincial government
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i guess uh well i've always hoped for arrests i really would like how many times have we said
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that right politicians break our laws and and there are no consequences i mean once in the last
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time a politician in this country actually faced some serious consequences for breaking a law um
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been a long time so there's the question that danielle is proposing to add to the october 19th
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referendum should alberta remain a province of canada or should the government of alberta
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commence the legal process required under the canadian constitution to hold a binding
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provincial referendum on whether or not alberta should separate from canada to me that's too
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complicated and that's two questions so um it remains to be seen if that's exactly the way it
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goes on the ballot if it does i think that's confusing and it opens another possibility for
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a court injunction or an appeal or somebody to make a claim that the question is too complicated
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we'll see we'll see um all right so i was uh so we were talking about uh smith so i think smith
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is walking a tightrope um that that and she's making promises that potentially she can't deliver
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on we'll see oh i don't even okay i love a day like this i'm not gonna i i this is all about
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you guys so i'm immediately going to the callers let's go to the caller what's your name where
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you calling from please? Hi, it's Mark calling from Calgary. Hey, Mark, how are you? Well, pretty
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good, thanks. Yeah, I just I just wanted to call, you know, call about, you know, your headlining
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at Daniel Smith's political payroll. Indeed, I totally agree that she's walking a pretty fine
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line, trying to plead a lot of people. We all know what happens when Christ pleases everyone.
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But I look at Mark Carney right now, and if you have 14 Liberals signing a document saying they are not happy with the signing of these memorandums regarding pipelines, I think that is just an absolute gift for the Sovereign Just Movement.
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It just goes to show that Mark Carney has problems in his own party where he is going to have to make a choice.
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And the reason I think it's a gift, it exposes the hypocrisy of what's happened for all these years of Alberta complaining against Ottawa, doing this, you know, da-da-da, and people saying, oh, just keep quiet, keep quiet.
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And now we find out that it's probably majority Quebec Liberals.
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But I'm no strategist, but I think now we can pose the whole thing, bring it to the surface.
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As part of Gilboa resigning, I had a question about who else is going to resign.
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and the 14 disgruntled mps he's hint he's talked about it i i wonder if gilbo i don't think gilbo
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is going to go away quietly right i think he will talk about who these 14 mps are but to your point
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i don't think it's i i wouldn't label it as hypocrisy i would label it as we're actually
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seeing the truth right i i used to wonder if um if if these mps that believed in climate
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change were only doing it you know to to line their own pockets but we're beginning to see that
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some of them are truly truly truly believe that um that that alberta is is destroying the planet
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that oil and gas has to be eliminated like we're seeing that right it's not hypocrisy they're
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showing us their true colors and we need to appreciate that they're they think differently
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than we do but so they're activists yes yes yeah so gilbo's not alone i agree like who i mean and
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And then did you see the, like, oh, my God, it was a weird press conference.
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But Elizabeth May praising Gilboa almost to the point of being in tears.
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So I'll ask you, do you think Gilboa will go away quietly?
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Or do you think he's – is he going to reappear somewhere?
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Or is he going to rock the boat and sort of attack and be mean to Kearney?
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Oh, I think he's definitely going to reappear somewhere.
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And by him saying that, you know, there's potentially others to come, I don't know whether it's a new party or whatever, but you are going to see some level of activism from him.
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I mean, the guy was, what, scaling the CN Tower or doing something.
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I mean, this guy is still in the Save the Whale, you know, mode.
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He's just showing the disdain he has for what we're trying to do out in Western Canada.
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And, again, you know, another thing, how's he going to get, you know, the media support?
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Because if he attacked Carney, now that's going to be a problem, again, for Carney.
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Because Carney has to keep those people that signed that letter happy.
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He will choose those people rather than Alberta.
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yeah yeah no i appreciate that mark uh great great comments um i i you know gilbo is a true radical
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and there are others like him perhaps he's 14 and then it's not just environmental radicals right we
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we talked earlier in the show about the gun grab like that that lady um from uh paulisa suvian who
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became a minister she's a radical like these people are are downright radical and have entered
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politics as a way to put uh to advance their own personal agendas it has nothing to do with making
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the country better so um yeah appreciate the call thank you so much hey john could i just go ahead
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oh sorry i'm i'm just gonna sneak in one little thing about uh saying oh sorry no no go ahead go
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ahead uh mark go ahead oh yeah i was just gonna say have you uh you know i've worked in the oil
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patch 40 years um you you've got a little bit of gray hair around you working in in the oil patch
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do you ever remember us supplying oil to that strategic reserve that nobody ever has called
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out carny or that champagne about where is that no where is it marty yeah where is it we talked
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about that in the show about a month or two months ago yeah canada has no strategy canada has no
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strategic reserves and the mainstream media when he mentioned that failed at their job you're that's
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what you're hinting at right they should have pointed that out absolutely uh the americans have
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a strategic yeah yeah thank you mark take care um john perfect segue because we talked so much
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about gilbo so uh you guys know that this week uh the western standard finally started doing what a
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lot of other channels and businesses do started offering merchandise and um so there's uh what's
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the link if you know how to get to the western standard uh website you'll find the merch store
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right there on the uh on the website but um and and then the merchandise yeah visit western
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standard store dot news and so some of the merchandise is your typical stuff right the
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hats like this everybody loves hats i mean this is the new logo and then you got hats with the old
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logo um you got stuff like this right hoodies with uh with the alberta the the what do you
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call this one the weathered the monochromatic alberta uh emblem a shield but uh and and then
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if you go to the website there's more than that there's coffee mugs and stuff like that but it's
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also broken down into sort of uh categories and one of the more popular categories right now
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show the uh gilbo category so uh well there's stephen gilbo in his famous jumpsuit right
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gilbo before entering politics was a radical uh activist i mean known for having climbed i think
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that's the jumpsuit he was wearing when he got arrested after climbing the cn tower i think he
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uh did he once somebody correct me on this but i think he once even protested in front of ralph
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client's home i'm pretty sure that but uh maybe show john can you show yeah there you go so there's
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uh those are two of the best sellers right now that mug the stephen gilbo mug is a best seller
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and i don't know if you can see the back side of the mug but the back side of the mug says i love
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oil and gas so uh get yourself one of those and uh if you use i don't know where it is i think
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it's going to be underneath the in the description of this video there'll be a discount code so if
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you're using it's probably going to be marty 10 or something like that you get a 10 discount code
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for ordering some stuff on there um awesome awesome awesome uh just staying on that subject
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real quick so yeah um gilbo resigned now of course he's going to stay on and milk it for as long as
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possible uh parliament uh alberta's in recess but the federal parliament is still going until june
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20th so about another month and then it recesses from june 21st until september 14th so gilbo is
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going to stay on i suspect until about june 21st and but once he leaves the majority still exists
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i think for an exact majority you need 174 uh seats with uh gilbo going the liberals will have 173
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to the other parties 172 but um there's also it's not a rumor um minister wilkinson uh he will also
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be resigning shortly because it's been announced that he is being appointed as canada's ambassador
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to the european union so he's gone and then there are a few rumors of others that uh like we've
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mentioned in in recent weeks the the ontario liberals are holding their leadership race in
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the near future and so some federal liberals might leave all to say that it's likely that sometime
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that by the end of june when parliament recesses carney will have lost his majority now he can re
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re-win it by having some uh by elections but then most play most uh by elections never occur in the
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the middle of summer so you know it'd wait until september for his by elections and and what that
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means is in the next four weeks the liberals have a very weak majority like a two vote majority
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which gives them a little bit of wiggle room to try and pass a couple of laws but i don't think
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they'll succeed in doing anything i went and watched uh i went and looked at the at the website
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to see what bills are being worked on we we keep hearing about bill c22 and some of the other ones
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are getting a lot of resistance and beyond that there's nothing really impressive in the list of
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bills so carney knows that he's not risking anything right now he's not putting forth
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anything too too controversial and he's doing the same thing as danielle smith he's navigating his
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own party um as the previous caller said like he's on the on the verge of losing it because
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he's got some crazy radicals and he's moved some of those radicals out of the way and i
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and i think he's probably identified them and he needs to get rid of a few more
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so it's going to be maybe a quiet summer uh go ahead on the line where are you calling from and
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name please hey marty how are you good good it's diane from devon hey diane how are you what's on
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on your mind I'm good um the question Daniel's question is a riddle inside of a riddle that's
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what I would liken it to and um what I think we need to realize and this is what I really come to
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terms with is that um this is agenda 2030 this is global and everything they're trying to implement
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that is that is those are his peers that is where he has come from he just got parachuted
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into canada he's never held an elected office before and that's what we're up against and i
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don't know how can we really fight that even with our constitution or um our uh what do you call it
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our um charter of rights or not our constitution but the charter whatever's in the charter
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can we actually fight this massive dark cloud with what we have and i know it's grassroots and i know
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it's people that are fighting for their hearts for not for canada anymore they're fighting for
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the future of our children and our grandchildren but can we can we really fight that now
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short answer is we have no choice right uh diane we have to i i i tend to agree with you it's um
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um there are big powers that be i agree that carney was uh placed right trudeau was screwing
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it up and then uh and then they had to replace trudeau and bring in carney and now i think
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carney's had this real realization after a year that like oh it really was screwed up and he's
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trying to he's trying to clean it up by by uh bringing the agenda back but he knows he can't
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do it quickly right he knows that the cleanup getting rid of people who were incompetent and
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other things is is uh is problematic for him i mean yeah yeah he has real problems he's trying
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to clean it up and for for his handlers i agree on that i agree on that and and uh we have no choice
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we have to keep fighting him um oh you you made me think of something but i i lost my thoughts um
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ah yeah i appreciate the call diane i'm sorry i i lost my thought and anything else you want to add
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or uh so so how's the sentiment how's the sentiment in devon how are people around you like when you
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oh i know what i was going to say so um yeah so you and i are on the same page we meet a lot of
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people that are on the same page so get it my my frustration and maybe it's yours too is how do you
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explain people that can't see it and want to like how do we explain the in canada group like who's
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gonna vote no to this referendum do you know what i mean like how how could people not see what's
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going on do you do you meet people like that that are just blissfully ignorant yes yes yes and i'm
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65 years old so that my demographic a lot of the people i like i'm amazed what comes out of their
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mouth um they just i think part of it is they just want to ignore it and pretend everything in
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canada the downfall of canada everything that we've talked about repeatedly they just want to
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pretend it's not happening right and then there's people like me who are saying kids grandkids we
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are looking we are seeing what the future is going to hold for our families but the rest of those
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people they're just like checked out they just and to try to explain it to them not fight with
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them but just even try to talk to them in a civil manner and explain it to them they just start
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pulling all these crazy things out of the air and like honestly sometimes i just walk away i'm like
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where where the heck did that even come from like it's it's it's beyond my logic and my rationale
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that i i just don't understand it well thanks for the call don't give up you're you're you're in the
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right group you're talking to the people you're you're part of a a movement that sees what's
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happening and then don't lose hope there's a lot of us right there's there's 300 000 people that
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signed that petition and i think there's uh at least as many who didn't sign it but have the
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same sentiment so uh thanks for thanks for the call have a great weekend i i'm not gonna i'm not
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gonna lose hope i'm gonna fight but i'm just saying i i'm i'm in reality and that's what i see
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that's all i said thank you excellent all right have a great weekend yeah um yeah i'm gonna go
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and speed up on some of my topics i had a lot of topics i want to talk about this is great this is
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how i want this show to go right like comments john bring up that last uh we had one quick super
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chat there that we missed on the way by i don't have my tablet in front of me there you go that
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one uh the mask will soon come off many politicians yeah maybe uh no pun intended but it's a good
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segue too which is weird there's a lot of masks reappearing right like it just goes to show
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how fear is so powerful like how who's seen people every day now i see people with masks
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back on while driving while doing things right like the antivirus and the monkey pox and what's
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the other one the ebola uh and now they're they're they're um they're prepping us you can tell they're
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prepping us right it's the fifa the soccer world cup is going to be hosted between canada mexico and
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and uh and the us this summer in the coming months and now they're preparing us for the fact that
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there might be some uh some extra measures um uh i wanted to talk about the premieres uh the western
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premiers in canadasis but i got a call and i'm going to take the call so go ahead call
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her where are you calling from name please hello hello yeah yeah go ahead
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hi i'm calling i'm curious to know how it is the prime minister is sending all of our money to
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ukraine yet all of a sudden we're in bed with china and china supplies russia with 60 of its
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drone capacity which side are we supporting could you clear that up for me a little please marty
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i can't that's uh i'm i'm i'm with you i think we're on the wrong side it's uh what what did
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we spend a year or we spend a generation being told that china was the enemy the u.s were allies
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and russia was the uh uh one of the bad guys and suddenly yeah we're in bed now with uh china i i
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can't explain it i have no way of explaining it and it worries me because i i don't want to be
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on the wrong side i don't want to be on team china man i want to be on team usa
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yeah i agree with that 100 percent uh i just there's so much that this gentleman is conflicted
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on and i don't get how it is people can't see how conflicted and what a liar he is
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oh i i agree i mean and look at what he did this week right he's he's he's he's we've talked about
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this a lot i mean he's it's served having a boogeyman having trump next door helps him right
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i mean he people don't like trump trump derangement syndrome is real and so carney capitalized on that
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to get elected but i think he's taken it too far like uh this week we had an opportunity again to
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what do the americans want from us they just want that trade imbalance to be smaller they they want
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some appreciation for the fact that they've been protecting us for all these years and what do we
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keep doing aggravating them we had the opportunity to buy we talked about it
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last week buying some snowbirds the new jets they could have gone to the US they
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haven't done that we needed to buy some new advanced warning radar planes like
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that and then we chose a European competitor instead of a instead of an
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American one we're antagonizing the US and getting in bed with the Chinese I
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didn't vote for that I am so amazed that we as Canadians are allowing him to
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destroy 75% of our exchange with the Americans.
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They are our friend, ally, and best business partner.
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so wow what a great show uh thanks everyone see see how easy it is all you do is pick up the phone
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call us at 866 479 west whatever west stands for and uh and then uh chat with me i'm i'm i'm not a
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i don't bite i'm just an average joe i got a bunch of things i want to talk about i got i got another
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15 minutes we're good um i i was going to talk about the i was going to talk about the premier's
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meeting in Kananaskis, nothing really significant came out of that one, except one thing, right?
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I'll just wrap it up into this real quick. There is tension between the premiers, the Western
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premiers. Sorry, this was a Western premiers, right? So Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, BC,
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and the territories were all there. Wob Canoe sort of took a jab at Premier Smith about whether,
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you know about the referendum question and consulting and then and then you got uh eb
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who still continues to say there won't be any pipelines going across right and so it goes back
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to the earlier theme where um where uh carney and is making some promises that he's kicking he's
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passing the buck right he's like yeah i'll give you the pipeline but he's but he's ignoring the
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fact that he's not going to impose on bc he's going to give bc the veto so he's going to let
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bc be the the the bad guys in these discussions or maybe even manitoba right you see what carney's
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doing and so you see it in these meetings right like these two eb and and wob canoe were um there
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was tension let's just put it that way there was tension uh smith looked a little bit uncomfortable
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poor danielle i mean um i'll cut her a bit of slack enjoy the summer danielle there's a recess
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coming on but i i i mean i i want to cut you some slack but at the same time i also want to be
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critical of a bunch of things i i won't even get around to it today but i i got my tax bill this
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week my municipal tax bill all you guys got your tax bill this week and you probably saw a big jump
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right and i saw the big jump compared to last year it's about for me it was about an eight percent
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jump in my tax bill i think some of you folks are going to get 10 12 but when you look at that jump
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in your tax bill my municipality i live in rocky view you know here let me okay let's talk about
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it real quick when municipalities collect money for themselves but they also collect education
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money so when you look at your typical tax bill municipal tax bill about half of it is money that
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goes to the municipality and then the other half goes right back to edmonton so municipalities
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collect money on behalf of edmonton the the education portion so my tax bill goes up nine
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percent and i'm like oh that looks pretty steep but then when i look i live in rocky view and i go oh
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the portion collected by rocky view is fairly consistent compared to last year it's like
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you know it went up three or four percent i'm okay with that but then when i look at the education
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component of my tax bill it went up by like 16 well that's all danielle smith man that's all
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nate horner her former minister that's all we'll talk about this one next week there's a big jump
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in our tax bills and i think smith is using the municipalities to do some of her dirty work and
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this huge increase in educational uh levies that's all about out of control immigration that that's a
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topic in and of itself so we'll talk about that next week but uh yeah so the the premier's meeting
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in kananaskis a lot of tension there and again it just shows that um there's some there's some real
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um flaws in confederation i i i think that's the core message for us alberta separatists
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okay it's nothing personal it's nothing personal but confederation the way it was designed alberta
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came into confederation in 1905 almost kicking and screaming and after 100 years plus it's not
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working for us okay that's as simple as that it's not working we don't get proportionate representation
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in the senate the house of commons or in the courts and we're outnumbered and the people out
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east think differently than they than we do they they they truly bought into climate change and
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totally bought into woke ideologies and and all sorts of bizarre things and um and they they're
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they're showing that that's just not a fad for them it's how they think they think differently
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than we do and and therefore this agreement doesn't work so we came into it we tried it
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we don't like it we want to go our own separate ways and i can make a lot of arguments as to why
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we need to leave and i haven't heard too many arguments on the other side as to why we should
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stay so let's just that's how we got to promote the uh the movement in the coming uh in the coming
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months um all right right right at the top of my list and i skipped over it and we never talked
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about it and i don't know if other people talked about it on the show this week john maybe give me
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a thumbs up but um yesterday or the day before was the five year anniversary of the cam loops
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residential school uh ground penetrating survey okay so the survey had been done and so all
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all that this is it was five years ago on this week that there was a press conference where
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somebody said hey uh we use this ground penetrating radar we scan the area uh near the school where
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somebody thought that there had been a cemetery at one point and we saw some anomalies okay they
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went as far as saying that they thought those 200 and whatever 15 anomalies were little graves and
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it's been five years of talking about these things and i've heard every imaginable theory i mean
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there's people who say that um maybe there were graves and and were they mass graves because of
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atrocities some people say no it's simply a reality that in the 1800s when people died they
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were buried in a little impromptu cemetery somewhere and there might have been a cross
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at one point made out of wood but the cross is gone right so there's that theory there's the
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The other theory that no, there were, that the cemetery is not that big.
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There were people who died in school, that it was the 1800s.
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You had whatever, diseases were rampant and life were tough.
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And unfortunately, some people died, children died.
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But in this instance, a lot of us are asking something very simple.
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If you think there's a cemetery there, then just do a little archaeological dig.
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I mean, in Europe, they still find bodies from the wars and things like that, and they'll dig them up.
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They identified the remains of a Canadian dead in the First World War.
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so why why such resistance to just digging up a small teeny wean little section of this supposed
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cemetery and look it up if there's bones it'll be settled once and for all if there's no bones
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it'll be settled i mean to me that's the frustration it's been five years lots of money
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spent on this and uh and we're not allowed to ask questions we're not allowed to uh you know
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we're supposed to believe their what do they call it the the first nations have their truth keepers
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they call it like nah i i'm a little more pragmatic that way i want some real evidence i'm not just
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going to believe somebody's word take somebody's word and you know that there's something there
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i want proof so it's been five years and a lot of frustration over that and i think it's actually
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setting us back right i mean this whole idea of truth and reconciliation in order to have
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reconciliation we need truth and the truth comes from putting shovels in the ground and digging
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in that area i got another super chat there john if you could please bring it up
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rc lemmer again there's another team playing against america american and canadian business
00:51:11.180
they're the government politicians and bureaucrats tied by nefarious mean all you have to do is look
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up how russia got uranium okay i'll take your word for it rc a lot to unpack there um i think it's
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you're bringing it back to something a lot of us are starting to realize i don't even want i actually
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careful i have to be careful i don't want to go down this path too much you know in um in social
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networks we call it being blue-pilled red-pilled you know have you uh like some of the callers are
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like have you awakened i think i'm awake i've awakened to a lot of things that are going i'm
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red-pilled but now i'm dangerously close to being black-pilled and i think some of the people have
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called are dangerously close to being black-pilled black-pilled means you've actually witnessed
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what's going on but now you've also resolved yourself to the fact that it's unchangeable
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because there's these huge powers that be which rc brings up right like um and lots of people talk
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about this and and um i'm i'm trying hard on many days not to get blackpilled and to to be like
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diane and some of the other callers still hopeful that we can control our own destiny and and that
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that i'm not just a real sheep in the global scheme if that makes sense uh caller on the line go ahead
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please all right Marty yep doctor from Cal Mart Alberta go ahead how are you I
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just wanted to make I'm good thanks I just wanted to talk about their
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reference you have to know what friend the question on the restaurant the
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question yeah but considering all those lawsuits and stuff Danielle Smith just
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about had to do what she's done with the question on the question yeah and the way the way i look at
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it that's just you know considering all the world blocks that's a pure form of democracy
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no no i agree i i mean uh she's doing something right if she hadn't done what if she hadn't done
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this the clock was really running out we wouldn't have a referendum this year but but let me ask you
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this what do you are you okay with this or would you have rather taken a chance and not have a
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referendum this year and maybe wait two years for a proper referendum no i'm uh i'm okay with what
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she's doing right now but uh if we get a yes on the first question should we have a referendum
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you should do it before the end of the year have a real referendum
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well yeah i i see so you're saying if we get a yes on october 19th
00:53:58.620
then hold another referendum let's say october november december 19th two months later something
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like that sure and we can have it all settled and have it all do all the paperwork everybody's
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negotiations everything and but next spring we're we're out of here yeah no interesting uh i i think
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you're overly optimistic there i mean if if we're yes on the first question in october then she'd
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have to start consulting with the first nations and doing a bunch of other things and i i think
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we would need more than two months to have it on the next referendum but uh hey quick question
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where's calmar i i'm trying i'm racking my head uh 15 clicks west of the duke oh yeah
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um now i know why it rings a bell i was there this winter playing i i curled there in a in a
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little fun bond spiel you guys got a really cool little uh curling hall we had some uh we bond
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spiel there and you had the fluorescent uh fluorescent curling that was awesome thank you
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yeah yeah that's all sort of poverty too right oh okay cool awesome all right thanks for calling
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okay have a good day you too um hey john just uh just on the subject of small towns uh can you
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find the the lundbeck uh video because we've been talking about albertans and i want to show
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you guys have seen this video right the albertans are just built a little bit different
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and uh this week uh a video again similar to the guy who went over the cliff uh snowmobiling
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uh this winter here's another crazy guy so uh the lundbeck falls are down by pincher creek
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if you're ever down in pincher creek you have to do a little side trip there's kind of a provincial
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park and there's these beautiful falls they're about 60 feet high and some crazy albertan on
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a jet boat uh went over the falls earlier this week check out this video
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oh that guy like i don't know how he hung on there when that boat hit i'm surprised he didn't
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submarine that boat completely um that's just crazy i i don't know what was going through his
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mind why he wanted to attempt that but uh he did so yes albertans are just built a little differently
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all right we got time for a couple of other uh quick uh comment quick things um maybe this one
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will be more i'm surprised this story didn't make the news more and maybe we'll talk about it more
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next week but i'm just going to read the headline right so you guys remember the tragedy that
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happened uh in march 2023 in edmonton um the police got called to a house and when the two
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younger officers showed up on on um what's the word the unprovoked whatever the guy opened the
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door and shot the two officers like boom and killed two officers and then turned the gun against
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himself like a real tragedy right in edmonton three years ago well this week i'll just read
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the headline a 21 year old edmonton man has been found guilty of three counts of manslaughter for
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selling a semi-automatic rifle to a teenager who later used a weapon to kill the two officers and
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himself and on on on first reading that i'm my gut goes what a nasty nasty like that that makes
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me a little nervous that's precedent right um so maybe maybe maybe so the guy sold the gun illegally
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get it the guy's son sold the gun illegally that's a crime there's definitely punishment for that but
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the fact that he sold the gun illegally and then then he's held uh liable for how that gun was used
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and and and the guy who's he didn't pull the trigger he just sold a gun and now he's been
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found guilty on three counts of manslaughter i mean what if you uh sell a car to a 16 year old
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kid who then goes on a drinking and driving and kills a pedestrian are you liable for having sold
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that car i know there's already some liability if you're a bartender and you let somebody out
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of the bar and they kill somebody because they were drunk there's liability there but
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you know what i mean like this one makes me worried uh but then i'll throw it back at the
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judges right what about the judge what about you guys the judges if you're watching this what about
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the judge who releases somebody on bail a criminal on bail and then that criminal re-offends and
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commits a crime shouldn't the judge then based on this ruling be held liable in part for what
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happened so i mean the event was a tragedy um i just don't like this ruling i just don't like
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this ruling because we live in a country based on precedence. And even though it doesn't really
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affect me, and I don't think it will ever affect me, I'm capable of seeing how some rulings in
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this country are cans of worms. And I don't like that. Running out of time, want to make one last
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quick, I guess we'll talk about airport drugs next week. But just a personal note, just a personal
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note, my little sister is retiring tomorrow. Okay. And I want to congratulate my sister. She
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worked at one of the famous hospitals. She worked at a children's hospital and public relations her
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whole career. And so I'm getting goosebumps. I'm proud of my sister for, for having, even though
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she's a civil servant, she did a great job and she's retiring. Retirements don't happen very
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often in this day and age. People get fired before they ever have a chance to retire. So I hope she
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has a nice retirement. But I also want to throw out this one little thing about my sister. So as
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a public relations officer for this big children's hospital throughout her life, her career, one of
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her job was to organize and have celebrities come to the hospital. You know how celebrities come and
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they meet with the children, right? Whether it's hockey teams or anybody that comes through town
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and is doing a concert or whatever. And so my sister had almost like hundreds of NHL players
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come through her office hundreds of celebrities american canadians singers country singers actors
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all sorts of people it's incredible who she had in her office and she could have a wall of selfies
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with all these celebrities she has zero none because she made a conscious decision a long
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long time ago that her job was about the children and not about the people that she was inviting
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and she never was opportunistic about all the people that came into her office and i just think
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that for for for that is absolutely amazing that she did that just wanted to throw that out there
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so congratulations marie um all right now i guess that brings the show to uh to the to the end uh
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