Western Standard - March 15, 2024


Alberta Allocates Funds for Continuing Care in Budget 2024:


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Learn English with the Premier of Alberta, Rachel Notley. In Budget 2024, Alberta will invest $26.2 billion to improve primary care, add capacity, reduce wait times, grow the workforce, and advance the government's Health Care Action Plan, which refocuses the province's health care system on four areas of focus: Primary care, acute care, continuing care, and mental health and addiction.

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00:00:00.000 Minister of Health, Jason Nixon, our Minister of Seniors, Community and Social Services,
00:00:05.240 and Faisal Keshebji, Chair of the Alberta Continuing Care Association.
00:00:09.580 Albertans want to know that our health care system is there when they need it and where they need it.
00:00:13.480 They deserve no less, and that's why our government made health care a top priority in Budget 2024.
00:00:19.560 We invested a record $26.2 billion to improve primary health care, add capacity, reduce wait times,
00:00:26.080 grow the workforce, and advance the health care action plan.
00:00:29.520 But we'd set the wheels in motion long before our budget was released last month.
00:00:34.820 Last November, we made a promise to improve health care delivery by refocusing the health care system.
00:00:40.400 And we're in the process of creating four specialized areas of focus, primary care, acute care, continuing care, and mental health and addiction.
00:00:49.160 Budget 2024 provides the funding for decisive actions in each of those areas,
00:00:54.280 including significant investments in continuing care already under pressure as Alberta's population
00:00:59.920 continues to grow and grow older and as more people require more care for more complex needs.
00:01:05.840 For example, there are a number of patients in hospital who no longer need hospital care
00:01:10.120 but still require specialized support. These are referred to as alternative level of care
00:01:16.380 patients and what we have found is that it is taking far longer than it should to transition
00:01:21.620 Albertans from a hospital to more appropriate care setting such as continuing care or in other
00:01:27.400 community support services. This came to sharp focus this past December when Minister Adriana
00:01:32.760 LaGrange visited the Royal Alexandra Hospital and connected with a specialist in the ER who flagged
00:01:39.180 that they had approximately 27 patients in hospital ready to be discharged but could not be discharged
00:01:46.100 because their taxes and other financial issues were not complete as a result these patients could
00:01:52.340 not qualify for the social assistance they needed to ensure their care continued after they were
00:01:57.220 discharged on average about 1500 albertans are in hospital beds waiting to be moved almost half
00:02:06.420 are transferred within seven days to a more appropriate setting than a hospital and most
00:02:11.940 within 25 days but there's a percentage of patients with more complex needs who remain
00:02:18.420 in hospitals much longer than necessary and while alberton alberta actually leads the country in
00:02:24.500 managing alternative levels of care patient uh patients we know that there's more work to be
00:02:29.860 done to reduce these wait times we want to ensure patients receive the care they need in the most
00:02:34.820 appropriate setting whether it's a long-term care facility a community support facility or an
00:02:39.860 appropriate home care support service we are focused on transferring patients facing specific
00:02:45.700 challenges to an appropriate care setting by embedding teams within ahs with support from
00:02:50.900 alberta health seniors community and social services and mental health and addiction
00:02:56.340 these teams will focus on removing barriers to care that could include financial or legal issues
00:03:01.220 or homelessness we are reviewing the decision making process to shorten the time it takes to
00:03:06.100 assess the type of continuing care supports that a patient needs and through budget 2024 we're
00:03:12.180 making significant investments in continuing care spaces in the province before i invite minister
00:03:17.620 lagrange to the podium let me reiterate that our government is committed to ensuring access to
00:03:22.820 quality public health care for all albertans improving access to alternative levels of care
00:03:28.180 and continuing care will benefit not only patients but also the overall health care system
00:03:33.540 the investments that we're making and the actions that we're taking including refocusing
00:03:37.460 our health care system allow us to focus on accountability service delivery and effective
00:03:42.100 governance of both the acute care and continuing care sectors and most importantly improving our
00:03:47.540 health care system enables us to focus on the patient and provide albertans with the care they
00:03:53.220 need when and where earlier albertans deserve no less thank you and i now ask adrian lagrange to
00:03:58.420 take the mic thank you premier and good afternoon everyone as premier mentioned we are dedicated to
00:04:10.340 ensuring that albertans who access our health care system get the care they need in the most
00:04:15.540 appropriate setting for them for some that means securing a spot in a continuing care home after
00:04:22.020 they've been treated in hospital we must remember that at the heart of a situation like this are
00:04:28.100 human beings at a very vulnerable time in their lives just because they no longer require hospital
00:04:34.980 care does not mean they do not still require some level of care and support but as it is now it
00:04:42.180 often takes days if not weeks to find the right spaces for these individuals and spending that
00:04:49.060 wait time in a hospital is not the right course of action that is why budget 2024 includes an
00:04:56.260 investment of 1.7 billion with a b billion dollars into the continuing care system in alberta
00:05:05.620 this will ensure albertans get the appropriate level of care and support they need and want
00:05:10.740 whether it is in a continuing care home or in their personal home or in their community
00:05:17.620 our investment is enabling the transformation of continuing care in alberta which is dedicated
00:05:22.980 to creating a system that is more responsive and sustainable which will not only help address
00:05:30.020 pressures in continuing care but it will also help our acute care system this funding includes 654
00:05:38.260 million over three years for the continuing care capital program which supports uh projects that
00:05:44.420 will add or improve more than 1600 continuing care spaces for albertans
00:05:49.780 But the particularly exciting thing is that we're not just adding beds in buildings.
00:05:57.660 At the same time, we are making a particular effort to develop new and innovative models
00:06:02.320 of continuing care for Albertans.
00:06:05.300 This includes funding for small homes, which will be a home for 4 to 14 individuals, residents,
00:06:12.720 and are designed to serve those in rural or remote communities or those with complex needs.
00:06:18.500 it could be continuing care homes that offer comprehensive in-house health services bringing
00:06:24.020 together different types and levels of continuing care into one integrated community practically
00:06:31.060 speaking this means couples or families or friends with varying needs can choose to continue to live
00:06:37.700 together and not be separated because of those varying needs also we will be creating culturally
00:06:44.660 appropriate spaces to support indigenous groups on and off reserves and metis settlements as well
00:06:53.220 and deliberately we're adding new spaces in geographical areas where there is the greatest
00:06:58.340 need but while we are working on developing excellent options for albertans in continuing
00:07:04.660 care homes i think many of us would say that if possible we would want to age at home and stay
00:07:12.100 living independently therefore we are also wanting to support albertans in that choice
00:07:18.740 which is why we are also working on bolstering supports in home and community care that includes
00:07:25.220 funding to home care pilot projects that will provide wraparound services and supports for
00:07:31.220 clients returning home from hospital and funds for community projects to support older albertans
00:07:37.140 with non-medical services such as transportation housekeeping and even snow removal sometimes
00:07:44.740 these are all that is needed to enable someone to stay in their own home supporting albertans as
00:07:51.140 they age and providing the care they need and want will not only take pressure off the continuing
00:07:56.580 care system but as i said earlier it will help keep people out of the acute care system in the
00:08:02.020 first place i am proud of the progress we've made in transforming continuing care in alberta
00:08:07.780 and i have no doubt this work prepares our province for the future where demand for quality
00:08:13.620 and choice in continuing care home and community care and indeed our entire health care system
00:08:20.580 will only continue to grow and so now i would like to invite minister nixon up to say a few words
00:08:26.020 Thank you, Adriana, and good afternoon, everyone. The Premier has given all of her Cabinet and the
00:08:35.620 Government of Alberta a mandate to make sure that our province remains the best place to live,
00:08:40.420 raise a family, and retire in our country. For the Department of Seniors, Community,
00:08:44.580 and Social Services, that means ensuring Albertans have access to social services that they need,
00:08:49.300 but also making sure that our social services departments are working closely with our partner
00:08:53.700 ministries including the ministry of health to provide supports in a collaborative way
00:08:58.100 to benefit all albertans sorry it is a priority of our government to make sure that people who
00:09:03.940 rely on our system including seniors and people with disabilities have access to the best care 1.00
00:09:08.820 possible in their chosen communities to do this seniors community and social services is currently
00:09:14.020 supporting the ministry of health and alberta health services with the transition of individuals
00:09:18.660 out of acute care and into more appropriate care settings for their needs and for the quality of
00:09:23.140 life seniors community and social services has formed teams that have been working directly
00:09:27.700 with alberta health and alberta health services to support patients moving out of acute care
00:09:32.260 into alternative levels of care these teams are made up of staff from several divisions
00:09:36.980 within the ministry of seniors community and social services including our financial services
00:09:40.900 division senior services division disability services homelessness services and the office
00:09:46.260 of the public guardian and trustee these teams are addressing barriers to leaving acute care
00:09:51.700 in our health system they are rapidly connecting patients with things like benefit programs
00:09:56.500 disability supports community services and other non-medical supports to help people return home
00:10:02.740 or enter more appropriate care settings in their communities we know that some patients waiting to
00:10:07.460 leave acute care require home modifications things like wheelchair ramps or washroom bars
00:10:12.660 or non-medical supports like transportation and housekeeping and even snow removal which is why
00:10:17.940 I have directed my department to make sure all programs within my department are given priority
00:10:24.180 immediately to any alternative level of care patient who needs to be able to leave the hospital
00:10:29.540 faster and ultimately to make sure they receive the support they need in this in their community.
00:10:34.740 This work is ensuring that patients coming out of the hospital are being immediately connected with
00:10:38.740 supports in their communities. Alberta's government believes that it is best when seniors and people
00:10:43.860 with complex needs can live in the communities closest to the support network our focus will
00:10:49.140 remain on getting people a place to stay and into the community that is most appropriate for their
00:10:54.020 needs this means investing in places for people to call home in their communities one of the big
00:10:59.300 ways that we do that is through alberta's senior lodge program the lodge program is our oldest
00:11:04.260 affordable housing program and provides affordable housing to tens of thousands of albertans who
00:11:09.460 still need to and are receiving services they need while still living in a community setting.
00:11:14.260 We are currently working with Alberta Health to identify how to use existing vacancies in our
00:11:18.740 Lodge system to help patients who need to leave acute care in the hospital get an appropriate
00:11:23.220 level of care in the community. Government has also appointed a panel to review our Lodge program
00:11:27.940 and make sure that our Lodge system is sustainable for the future. This panel is also exploring how
00:11:33.060 to improve connection to Alberta's continuing care system, making sure that the right level
00:11:38.100 of care is available to seniors in their communities finding these improvements in
00:11:42.180 the lodge system will help take pressure off of the acute care system in the long run
00:11:46.180 while providing a welcoming community for all albertans these initiatives in addition to
00:11:50.660 investments and more affordable housing options our province will support albertans including
00:11:54.820 seniors and those with complex health and social needs who can live independently with assisted
00:11:59.620 care in an affordable setting last fall i was pleased to join minister lagrange and minister
00:12:04.500 Williams to announce how we are working closely together on a new continuing care organization
00:12:09.700 as part of the health transition that is focused on patients first and that will connect all those
00:12:14.020 waiting for continuing care with streamlined effective services services for both medical
00:12:19.060 and community that they can rely on in the future this collaboration on the refocused continuing
00:12:23.780 care organization will ensure that housing community-based care and non-medical supports
00:12:28.660 are priority for Albertans as they require different levels and types of care as Albertans
00:12:33.700 As age and our population grows, people require more complex supports, which is why Alberta
00:12:38.620 will continue to invest in housing and communities that allow all Albertans to live dignified
00:12:43.100 and happy lives.
00:12:44.100 And with that, I would like to call up to the podium Faisal Keshevji, who's a dear friend
00:12:50.220 of ours.
00:12:51.220 He's the chair of the Alberta Continuing Care Association and a great resource for both
00:12:54.980 Minister LaGrange and ICE departments to talk a little bit about our announcement today.
00:13:02.260 Thank you, Minister, Madam Premier, Minister LaGrange.
00:13:06.660 Thank you very much.
00:13:07.660 Today marks a great milestone in Alberta's healthcare landscape, and on behalf of the
00:13:11.260 members of the Alberta Continuing Care Association, we are grateful for government's determined
00:13:16.220 actions.
00:13:17.220 The initiatives unveiled today signify boldly forward in addressing the critical challenges
00:13:22.120 entrenched within our healthcare system, backed by tangible commitments and strategic investments.
00:13:27.880 The announcement of $1.7 billion with a B dollars allocated towards continuing care alongside
00:13:34.060 targeted efforts to reduce wait times for alternate level of care or ALC patients underscores
00:13:39.140 a concerted effort to revolutionize access and efficiency in healthcare provision.
00:13:45.560 By streamlining patient flow and facilitating prompt transitions to appropriate care settings,
00:13:51.420 including more care in the client's home, we are not only easing the burden on our acute
00:13:55.820 care facilities, but also safeguarding the well-being of individuals in dire need of
00:14:00.520 specialized support.
00:14:03.520 Budget 2024's continuation of the $1 billion over three years for continuing care transformation
00:14:09.280 signifies a monumental investment in the future of health care in Alberta.
00:14:13.960 This funding will empower a multitude of initiatives aimed at fortifying community care services,
00:14:19.940 augmenting workforce capacity and training, and enhancing quality of care standards across
00:14:25.340 the spectrum furthermore the continuing care capital program with a much needed budget of 654
00:14:32.220 million over three years represents a resolute commitment to infrastructure expansion paving
00:14:37.900 the way for the creation of over 1600 new continuing care spaces these numbers paint a
00:14:44.860 vivid picture of the need of end of our members commitment to ensuring equitable access to care
00:14:50.620 for all Albertans irrespective of their circumstances beyond these infrastructure
00:14:56.380 enhancements the immediate establishment of over 150 temporary continuing care spaces
00:15:01.260 and another almost thousand spaces by 2025 and the inception of a new continuing care
00:15:06.940 organization exemplify a proactive approach to health care delivery by addressing immediate
00:15:13.020 challenges while laying the groundwork for more integrated and seamless care care continuum
00:15:18.300 these initiatives herald a new dawn for the continuing care sector i know minister lagrange
00:15:24.380 is working with our federal counterpart to solidify the aging with dignity program and
00:15:29.980 that will truly enhance home community care with primary care something that is going to
00:15:34.860 be truly welcomed in this sector in closing on behalf of the members of the alberta continuing
00:15:41.100 care association i extend my gratitude to our government for their visionary leadership and
00:15:45.980 dedication to the health and well-being of Albertans. Today's announcements not only
00:15:50.460 signify a significant milestone but also underscore our collective resolve to building
00:15:55.660 a healthcare system that is resilient, responsive, and equitable for all. Thank you.
00:16:02.300 Thank you. We'll now move into questions. We'll start off here in the room of course with one
00:16:06.620 question and one follow-up and hands. We'll start with you Catherine and then we'll go to Lisa. 0.97
00:16:11.980 um sure so um this spring we're expecting that legislation that creates that continuing care
00:16:16.700 pillar um and so remind me for the continuing care facilities that are currently managed by ahs
00:16:24.460 who's going to manage them under the new system well right now ahs operates roughly about 28
00:16:32.060 of all the continuing care in the province that will continue once the continuing care
00:16:37.340 organization is set up then they will look to oversee it and it may be through a contract
00:16:42.540 with alberta health services but at this point in time it will continue to be alberta health services
00:16:47.900 and we mentioned that that transparency piece so i'm wondering are we going to see a wait
00:16:52.620 time dashboard um reported regularly like a week or are we going to see annual reports to
00:16:58.860 legislature how are we going to make sure you're doing what you're saying you're doing well we're
00:17:03.020 actually working on a dashboard that we hope to have up very soon we've been doing a lot of work
00:17:09.420 we needed to modernize the look and accessibility and so we want to make sure that when we put it up
00:17:15.340 it will be accurate and in fact that albertans can actually use it to engage with with ourselves in
00:17:23.980 terms of you know where services available i'm i'm excited to bring it forward when we're ready
00:17:29.580 you mentioned that um we wanted to put investments geographically where there's the most need in
00:17:40.300 continuing care so i wanted to just provide a few more details about the temporary continuing
00:17:45.420 care spaces uh in the release the 50 that have been created so far and i think just over a
00:17:51.660 thousand by 2025 where are those going well currently in the problem in province we have
00:17:56.540 roughly about 450 transitional spaces will so we have upgraded and increased that by additional
00:18:03.020 spaces so when we talk about transitional spaces those are places where individuals would go to
00:18:09.580 have further assessment or to further convalesce before they go to their next level of care whether
00:18:15.900 that's back to home or perhaps into a different community type setting so we are looking to
00:18:23.660 increase those numbers we're working as minister nixon said it's a cross ministry approach i really
00:18:29.740 think the only way we're going to tackle the issues that we see within our health care system
00:18:34.460 is really to have that collaboration across ministry anyone who knows me would know that i'm
00:18:40.460 a huge fan of authentic wraparound services where we put the patient at the center of the care and
00:18:46.460 then bring the people to the individual what do you need when where do you need it how do we get
00:18:51.660 you to the right level of care that you need at this point in time in your life so sorry yeah I
00:18:56.940 didn't I didn't understand that from the press release the temporary means transitional spaces
00:19:03.100 transitional usually it means transitional spaces and I'm also wondering um for Faisal if you might
00:19:10.300 be able to answer this one um you noted that 1600 the 1600 new spaces I mean how does that
00:19:18.540 factor into the need currently in Alberta for more spaces like it could be closer to 10,000 spaces
00:19:25.820 that we need so isn't this just a drop in the bucket yeah you've got you've got to start
00:19:29.340 somewhere uh you know land is expensive all of those things have to be factored in right so it's
00:19:34.140 what can we build in the next foreseeable future when we look out over the next five or six years
00:19:39.260 I think we've estimated there is a need for about 10 10 000 uh spaces but that's because Albertans 1.00
00:19:45.820 are aging and we've got to meet that need so right now in alberta over the age of 65 it's roughly one
00:19:56.220 in seven albertans are over the age of 65 in 20 years that number will actually grow to about one
00:20:02.300 in five um well because i think it's actually the most important question to minister grange's
00:20:09.900 earlier point this is why we're working to make sure multiple ministries are involved to tackle
00:20:14.220 this challenge because i don't think it's the minister's position or the government's position
00:20:18.060 that we're going to be able to build all of those units nor that we need to we need to build as many
00:20:23.260 as we can but there are other solutions that can help deal with some of those 10 000 spaces that
00:20:27.340 may not be the traditional continuing care facility that you've seen in the past and our
00:20:31.580 lodge facilities and that you will see be tackled through some of the smaller facilities that the
00:20:35.420 minister spoke about in her remarks but further that uh with bigger investments inside home care
00:20:40.700 and then overlap with some of the community care initiatives that we do so you know for
00:20:44.940 example when we we have individuals that go into either the lodge program and or to some type of
00:20:50.140 long-term medical care often that may only need something as simple as ramps installed we know
00:20:55.500 that our healthy aging grants that provide snow removal in certain circumstances can move towards
00:21:01.340 that independent living for maybe for the rest of that individual's life but if not to prolong their
00:21:06.860 time uh in their own home and so it's not just capital investment lodges that's part of it but
00:21:11.900 it's continuing to invest across the system to be able to make sure that we can utilize all the
00:21:15.900 tools that we have thank you perfect and we'll go over to the phones operator did we have any
00:21:22.140 callers in the queue no questions in the queue thank you um go for it i wanted to ask minister
00:21:34.460 lagrange so going back to the mnp report and a lot of the details that were in that
00:21:41.500 kind of before your time but it's still guiding a lot of what the government is doing there were
00:21:46.300 some recommendations about hours of care and then we recently just saw these orders in council that
00:21:52.460 dealt with different standards of care and guidelines i'm wondering and if i recall
00:21:57.820 correctly your predecessor minister coughing said that they were looking at that hours of care piece
00:22:02.780 and hoping to bring that into it as well do you have a timeline on when we might see hours of
00:22:09.500 care be brought into those standards of care raise it up to like four hours a day or something like
00:22:14.060 that so we actually increased hours of care and I can ask Faisal to speak to that a little bit
00:22:19.500 more broadly by I believe it was 0.25 hours during my predecessor's time and I also know that in the
00:22:29.820 new regulations that are are coming forward to support the legislation that as you said earlier
00:22:36.060 comes into effect on april 1st that there's flexibility built into to the um the workforce
00:22:43.660 strategy uh so that uh because what we were hearing from providers was that they needed
00:22:49.020 flexibility but i'm happy to invite fazel if he feels he could respond to that more with on the
00:22:55.260 ground knowledge yeah thank you thank you minister yeah uh lisa i think uh minister said we've already
00:23:00.620 started increasing hours of care part of it is there's the balance of supply and demand right
00:23:04.940 so uh we know we want to have as many hours of care i think alberta is actually well positioned 0.78
00:23:09.740 from an hours of care compared to other provinces uh it's also the workforce has to be there to to
00:23:14.700 deliver it so we're working in lockstep and the regulations will help solidify that but we've
00:23:19.740 got to make sure that as the legislation comes out we actually have the workforce so there's
00:23:24.540 it's a multivariate kind of response to that
00:23:29.820 okay yeah one more from you and then we'll spend okay and then we'll wrap
00:23:32.620 okay um well i remember like when raw sherman was in his liberal leader
00:23:37.020 era he was he was saying this exact same thing that our acute care system
00:23:43.420 is is filled with with people who are better suited to continuing care that
00:23:48.220 people should be aging in their own homes so 0.98
00:23:50.620 i mean why why does it take so long when we've known this for
00:23:53.980 at least a decade decade now well i can i will say raj has been an advisor to me all the way
00:24:01.420 um going back to when he was first in politics as well and so when we started down the pathway
00:24:06.700 of refocusing the system one of the the first things that we wanted to do is quantify how many
00:24:11.820 alternative levels of care patients there were and we getting the long-term care patients waiting was
00:24:18.060 a fairly easy task but it did take several weeks for us to be able to identify that there are
00:24:22.380 various others there are individuals who because they're homeless may end up with an injury on the
00:24:29.020 street and because there's nowhere to go to convalesce they're staying in acute care because
00:24:33.260 we haven't completed the construction yet of our mental health facilities for recovery communities
00:24:37.900 there's some of those individuals for mental health and addiction who are also in those beds
00:24:42.140 i think the longest story i should probably let minister nixon tell it was an individual 74 years
00:24:49.740 old who was waiting 891 days that's two and a half years and part of the issue was also getting his
00:24:55.740 tax returns done so that when that finally got done he was entitled to 48 000 worth of
00:25:02.140 back support from the federal government which allows for that transition and so i think what
00:25:07.820 what has happened is that um although there are social workers who work in hospital they haven't
00:25:15.980 been connected to the social workers who work in minister nixon's department and so this is what
00:25:21.180 we're doing with our cross ministry coordination is that creating a space for so the way this model
00:25:27.500 will work is if somebody comes into hospital for an acute need they get stabilized once they're
00:25:33.740 ready for discharge they would move into the transition space at which point the social
00:25:38.300 workers from ahs and minister nixon's department would work together to figure out how to find
00:25:43.900 that space and then we'd work with our partners and non-profit to make sure that they're either
00:25:47.820 in a home a convalescence facility mental health addiction continuing care long-term care or do the
00:25:54.620 supports of home care with the renovation to the homes but that was the missing piece is i think
00:26:01.100 that perhaps the social workers within nhs didn't realize that they had all of these services that
00:26:07.900 could be provided through continuing care so we've just done that connection one of the first things
00:26:11.820 i did as well when i first became premium was move the office of the public trustee and guardian
00:26:16.380 over to this ministry because you can imagine that if there's somebody who can't get their tax
00:26:21.420 returns done for 891 days they're probably having difficulty managing their home managing all the
00:26:27.420 yard work that has to be done they're managing some of their other needs and so there's probably
00:26:31.500 a role for someone to step in to play that navigator so i think that was was the missing
00:26:35.580 piece but i do credit dr sherman for flagging this and i'm just glad we've been able to find
00:26:39.740 some solutions do you have anything more that you want to say on that i think that well this
00:26:44.460 would be no surprise everybody i think the premier covered it very well but i also think that this is
00:26:48.700 the brilliance frankly of what minister the grange has put together for the overall transformation
00:26:53.420 because some of the other challenges is when you're trying to deal with all these complex issues
00:26:57.900 in one organizational structure it's pretty hard to manage that and so i think that's why you've
00:27:02.300 seen that that these challenges pull be taking place over decades and so by being able to break
00:27:07.740 health into four organizations that work together that means there's going to be individuals working
00:27:12.460 with other ministries that are concentrating on things like continuing care and we're not
00:27:16.540 relying on individuals who need to be really focused on acute care emergency settings and
00:27:20.700 dealing with obviously very critical issues and so i think that's why the structure is a good idea
00:27:27.020 and i think over time we're going to see the benefit of having four different divisions
00:27:31.340 concentrating on the unique unique needs of patients that are within our system
00:27:34.860 And thank you guys for your questions.