00:11:43.000And I'm also confident that in any event like this,
00:11:46.440whether it's canvassing, collecting signatures, selling chocolate bars, selling tickets to an
00:11:50.720event. You do have people that rush in at the beginning and want to be part of the early buying
00:11:57.260and movement. Then you got the middle period that sometimes is slow. And then you get that last
00:12:01.220rush at the end. Humans by nature like to procrastinate. And so I think that we're going
00:12:08.640to see that. People are going to sign in the last couple of weeks. And then the other thing that
00:12:15.060happened with uh i don't know if mitch intended to do this but the there's two other things that
00:12:19.740i think happened after he made this announcement a you know up until now um independence was
00:12:26.620basically the voice were all the proponents so people like myself people like mitch uh people
00:12:32.440like cory morgan we were the ones talking about we want to separate and here's the reasons why
00:12:37.300and the other side was being quiet so the people against us or who want to stay they've been quiet
00:12:42.920the media has been quiet right and a lot of people were hoping that this was just a fringe
00:12:47.560movement that would go away so by making his announcement mitch forced the other side to
00:12:53.260finally acknowledge that something's happening and by the other side that includes the mainstream
00:12:58.620media so the so that was one of the things that was affecting the ability to collect signatures
00:13:03.680is that it was hard to get the message out because the message was only getting out through
00:13:07.360private voices but now you're going to hear more talk about independence because the mainstream
00:13:12.660media is going to start getting in on the action because it's it's now it's really news they can't
00:13:17.940avoid it and and and then the other thing that i think is going to be interesting is um it's pretty
00:13:24.700certain now that there will be a referendum right we met the threshold uh danielle said that if we
00:13:29.840met the threshold she would respect the citizens initiative act and that there would be a referendum
00:13:34.180on october 19th the only thing that could sort of hinder that right now is if is if somehow or
00:13:39.740whether an injunction was successful or the courts stepped in or elections.
00:13:44.140Alberta said there wasn't enough signatures or something like that.
00:13:46.740But barring something weird, we're going to have a referendum,
00:13:50.620which means we're almost starting to go into the campaign mode here.
00:13:54.260And now those who want us to, those who want Alberta to stay in Confederation,
00:13:59.500they can't be silent anymore because if they're silent,
00:14:02.060they're running the risk that the, you know,
00:14:05.020the leave side will dominate and get the votes necessary.
00:14:09.740So you're going to see a more dialogue on the subject, which is what a lot of people wanted.
00:14:15.440A lot of people just want a discussion on this. Right.
00:14:17.960I mean, I talk about separation all the time and I got people who immediately jump into telling me why I'm wrong, but they never stop and ask, you know, why are you upset?
00:14:26.780Why would you want to leave? So I think we're going to see a lot of dialogue.
00:14:30.460And on that line, you know, there's already now we've already seen who the pro, who the no side is, who the stay side is.
00:14:39.540And Jason Kenney's already sort of stepped up and, and others.
00:14:43.540So it's going to be interesting in the coming months to see how that all
00:50:36.700So if it wasn't for connection to politics through me, she would have no idea, like, with no advertising going on. Yeah, in some of the bigger cities, and probably especially Edmonton, obviously, because it's a left wing stronghold. It is tough to get the word out, just the average person on the street. And I guess that's a question for you. I don't know, do you think after the petition period, things will kick up more in earnest in terms of advertising and getting word out?
00:51:06.700you know with third party advertisers and stuff like that because it seems like so far the state
00:51:12.840free alberta petition campaign has only been doing town halls and these pop-up events and that's
00:51:19.080about it but there's been no actual advertising on billboards or the news well well stay on the line
00:51:24.660stay on the line but you know what about this right it could be a double-edged sword right so
00:51:29.240okay so there's a referendum the referendum is not coincident with any other election so literally
00:51:34.980it's a standalone referendum so we're gonna there's gonna be a uh people are gonna be asked
00:51:39.860to go vote on october 19th so there won't be so it's not even a political campaign it won't be a
00:51:45.140lot of advertising so what if maybe this is a strategy maybe the only people who should promote
00:51:50.420it are the separatists among people that are already sold on the idea and then just get them
00:51:57.220out right like if only if only separatists come out um you know what i'm you know you see where
00:52:02.500i'm going so um that could be a strategy but i also but but at the same time i do think the other
00:52:08.980side will have to will will catch on to that and they'll get worried and so they'll try and mobilize
00:52:14.180the stay group and that's where i think it's going to be interesting because like i said at the
00:52:19.460beginning of the show what are they going to how are they going to sell it right like they'll you
00:52:24.020know there's a referendum to leave how do they convince people to stay is it just they're just
00:52:28.660hoping that the people are happy with status quo and will come out and vote on it like i don't know
00:52:32.580what's your thoughts on that yeah well yeah i mean i think we've seen all that they have to provide
00:52:38.180so far based on even jason kenny's uh last debate with first party there where i mean what did he
00:52:44.580offer he didn't offer anything positive any positive vision for alfredo within canada right
00:52:49.700basically his entire argument was fear-mongering about you know what all could potentially go wrong
00:52:55.140you know the effort that it's going to take to create new agencies to cover what the federal
00:52:59.380government has been doing um and outdated nostalgia for a candidate that's long past
00:53:05.540essentially yeah um but it wasn't a positive vision at all and so i think that's going to
00:53:10.740become even more clear once he has this debate with keith wilson because keith wilson is very
00:53:16.180good at at pointing out the the gaps within the federal arguments yeah yeah yeah and the positive
00:53:22.900vision that alberta presents as an independent country yeah i'll have yeah no great question
00:53:27.940i'll have to think about that right in a couple in the coming weeks like do we need to really
00:53:32.100advertise it hard or do we sort of keep it under the radar and then suddenly because i know there's
00:53:36.980groups there are people like that like we know who the can we we canvass we know there are people
00:53:41.940well interested in this like and i think we're going to keep focusing on that group which is
00:53:45.940basically which is why we want to get the 500 000 signatures if we get 500 000 signatures we
00:53:51.460basically have 500 000 people voting and what if only a million people come out to vote or 900 000
00:53:57.220right that's that's not out of the possible because uh you know don't quote me exactly but
00:54:01.940you know there's three million electors and uh if there's three million electors and only 30
00:54:07.140decide to come out because it's october 19th too close to halloween and they're busy only a million
00:54:11.940people come out well to win the referendum we need 600 000. like i i i yep you know
00:54:17.860Well, even if you consider it in the last election, there was only 1.7 million that
00:54:23.540voted in the last provincial election, and out of that, I mean, it was 930,000 I think
00:54:30.680that voted for the UCP, which determined the provincial government.
00:54:35.760So if the same number came out as last time, we would need 930,000 votes, but yeah, if
00:54:42.920the number that comes out is even smaller, potentially, yeah, we might not even need