Western Standard - Alberta Independence petition smashes threshold

00:00:00.000 Good day. Today is May 6, 2026. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard,

00:00:29.640 and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:00:31.580 I've got our usual lineup today,

00:00:33.860 former Western Senate Opinion Editor Nigel Hannaford.

00:00:36.900 Glad to be here.

00:00:37.640 Senior Alberta.

00:00:39.540 It is. Senior Alberta columnist Corey Morgan.

00:00:41.820 Good day.

00:00:43.020 And our news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:00:45.380 Naylor, everybody.

00:00:46.760 All right, well, we're going to be talking about

00:00:48.360 the appointment of Canada's next Governor General.

00:00:52.220 I think she's not the Governor General quite yet,

00:00:54.440 but she will be soon.

00:00:56.480 Um, the, uh, the usual suspects in the, uh, Laurentian media are hailing her as, as perfect.

00:01:04.680 This is exactly what we need.

00:01:06.780 My God, she speaks French. 0.89

00:01:08.540 I said, you know, that's not a knock against her, but, uh, just saying she is absolutely

00:01:12.480 pristine, a wall-to-wall, perfect coverage.

00:01:16.760 I've never seen someone, uh, so hailed as perfect person for the job since they hailed

00:01:21.800 Mark Carney for the job.

00:01:23.480 Uh, we'll talk about her.

00:01:25.600 We're going to talk about Listgate.

00:01:28.320 I couldn't come up with a better name for this scandal.

00:01:30.420 So when we're in the newsroom, Dave, and we just, there's a controversy, some kind of scandal.

00:01:35.660 And we just can't think of a creative name.

00:01:39.160 Stick a gate on it.

00:01:39.880 You just stick a gate on it.

00:01:42.140 Extremely lazy, extremely uncreative.

00:01:44.480 But that's what we're going with for now.

00:01:46.480 Listgate.

00:01:46.840 But the alleged leaking of the Alberta list of electors through the Republican Party of Alberta to a group called the Centurion Project, and that the Centurion Project posted this, made it available online, a huge data breach.

00:02:09.900 We'll talk a bit about the substance of it, but also what are the political consequences of it?

00:02:14.840 The opponents of Alberta independence have certainly seized upon this to try to discredit the independence movement.

00:02:23.300 They've tried to affiliate the entire movement with those who are alleged to have been behind the data breach.

00:02:32.340 Is this going to potentially derail the pending Alberta independence referendum that supposedly is supposed to come this fall?

00:02:41.700 uh but i guess the good news for the independence uh movement before that cory uh just uh was it

00:02:50.900 monday monday um the uh state free alberta the registered uh organization that was collecting

00:02:59.080 the signatures to for a citizens initiative referendum on alberta independence they officially

00:03:05.060 handed in

00:03:06.380 a truck, and they unloaded all the boxes

00:03:10.940 up in Edmonton at the headquarters of

00:03:12.880 Elections Alberta,

00:03:14.280 far surpassing

00:03:16.080 the requirement of

00:03:18.560 150, 170,000

00:03:20.980 that was required. They ended up

00:03:22.720 somewhere a little south of

00:03:24.900 400,000, right? Well, it was

00:03:26.800 301,000 and changed, but it

00:03:28.840 still was well beyond the 178,000

00:03:31.320 required. I was kind of explaining that

00:03:32.980 my earlier show with these petitions and things, the Elections Alberta, when they, if it gets to

00:03:37.560 the point of them going through them, scrutinizing, I guess that depends on the courts, but

00:03:40.720 they tend to look in and find an error rate, you know, bad addresses, duplicate names, things like

00:03:47.160 that. Even those of us who ran for office, when you get that little petition to hand in as your

00:03:51.000 nomination, often they'll cut out, you know, 10% of your names. Lukasik's petition, about 13% got

00:03:56.600 cut out. This one, I think it'll be a much smaller number because they were so meticulous on this.

00:04:02.040 They demanded ID of every individual who signed.

00:04:05.080 It was an accomplishment.

00:04:06.420 I know people are trying to, you know, all opponents always will.

00:04:09.040 They're trying to understate what this is.

00:04:10.680 But 300 and some thousand signatures garnered with such precision and care with the addresses and the works over the winter months is not to be dismissed.

00:04:20.620 That was an incredible effort.

00:04:23.020 And they should be very...

00:04:24.060 You know, that's one of the things that makes it a little bitter that you've got this other issue to deal with.

00:04:29.120 We'll get to that.

00:04:30.200 Yeah. And it is an unfortunate cloud hanging over it. But I mean, we'll get into that because we've all got a lot to say about that. But we should, you know, just give that credit where it's due. History has been made. The bar for invoking a referendum under as far as the current legislation goes is clearly been surpassed by this group. It should be triggered if one believes that legislation is valid. And yeah, it was just a piece of history kind of being made. They really made a mark that day.

00:04:58.760 Yeah, and this was done over the winter months.

00:05:01.460 Now, I don't want to take away from, even though I'm not on their side,

00:05:04.420 I don't want to take away from the Forever Canada ones who did theirs.

00:05:08.400 They collected an even larger number, but not enough to take away from it,

00:05:12.520 but they did it during nice summer months.

00:05:14.240 I remember I'd be driving home, it would be a beautiful day.

00:05:16.380 They'd go to festivals where large groups of people were...

00:05:18.700 Yeah, but the State Free Alberta petition, pro-independence,

00:05:23.440 they did this during the most bitter cold months of the year.

00:05:27.080 They did it with constant attacks from Elections Alberta, ones that I do not think were justified.

00:05:33.000 They did it with court injunctions against it, like, hey, am I standing out here freezing my nuts off for nothing?

00:05:40.000 Is this not going to be allowed?

00:05:42.440 And so despite all of that, they more, I think, roughly, nearly double the number of signatures required.

00:05:49.060 um but david still is not yet a a sure thing this is going to happen in uh on october 19th when

00:05:58.680 there's some certain referenda already scheduled to take place uh i mean this has still got some

00:06:05.180 strange core challenges from some indigenous groups in alberta uh that are claiming that

00:06:10.200 they have a veto on this to not just stop independence but to even stop the question

00:06:14.660 from being asked yeah and that's that's the next key step in this whole process the uh the justice

00:06:21.140 who uh put in the interim uh block uh i believe said she was going to rule in may so it should be

00:06:27.780 in the next couple weeks that we'll we'll have a decision uh from what i can gather in the courtroom

00:06:34.020 the judge wasn't overly impressed with some of the uh the indigenous arguments so i would think

00:06:40.180 that the she'll put she'll throw out her injunction and uh and both petitions will uh

00:06:46.740 will go forward and be ratified and then at that point smith has no uh no choice but to call for

00:06:52.740 the uh referendum in october guess just whose question will they ask well and they are different

00:06:59.540 questions uh i mean the thomas lukazic question uh the pro-federalist side nigel it's bizarre uh

00:07:07.460 We've talked about this before, but he uses the citizen's initiative process and then says, oh, but we don't want a referendum.

00:07:14.780 We did this to block a referendum.

00:07:18.440 I mean, Thomas Lukasik is not my cup of tea, but I don't know how you start a citizen's initiative or referendum process to stop a referendum from taking place.

00:07:32.320 But if the courts refuse to allow the independence one to take place,

00:07:36.380 the Thomas Lukasik one is redundant because even if Canadians voted,

00:07:41.540 Albertans voted negative to it, so kind of pro-independence,

00:07:45.320 but, you know, we don't support staying in Canada.

00:07:49.260 I'm not a judge, but I'm pretty sure that does not constitute a clear question

00:07:53.640 on independence because it's asking it in the negative.

00:07:58.940 You know, should Alberta remain a province of Canada?

00:08:01.580 Well, if people voted no to that, does that mean, well, they want statehood or something like that, which is not really in any kind of mainstream consideration? That would be a total waste of everyone's time, I think. Let's just get on with the independence question. If you oppose it, you oppose it. It's fine.

00:08:18.100 And there's plenty of reasonable people who don't support independence, but voting to not stay a part of Canada doesn't trigger the Clarity Act necessary.

00:08:30.260 It would be divisive without accomplishing anything, one way or another, regardless of what the result is.

00:08:36.920 You have to put the Stay Free Alberta question on, which does meet the requirements of the Clarity Act.

00:08:41.740 Well, that's right, Derek. I mean, it's like sort of, if you want yes, vote no.

00:08:45.980 it's uh it's that kind of a people are going to be yeah i mean you've explained it pretty well

00:08:51.080 there i give anybody who's paying attention can get it but at the same time how many people are

00:08:56.000 really going to be paying that much attention especially when they have voices from the other

00:08:59.320 sides oh no no you need you need to do this i would be i would be uh frankly a little surprised

00:09:05.800 if uh if it was a that one was allowed to go forward if it's got to be just one of the other

00:09:11.520 The Clarity Act requires clarity.

00:09:17.200 The Kazakh motion doesn't provide that, whereas the other one does.

00:09:21.500 So maybe, just maybe, Mr. Lukasiak's motion will go forward, and then I guess...

00:09:31.840 But he bizarrely says he doesn't want his motion to go forward.

00:09:34.320 I mean, maybe it will, and then to that, by totally confusing the issue and ending up with a stay in Canada, vote, he'll claim victory.

00:09:43.440 The whole thing is...

00:09:44.780 Unless something will change based on the question asked, it's just a pull.

00:09:50.240 You know, it doesn't matter what the results are.

00:09:52.140 It could be 80% one side or 80% the other.

00:09:54.520 Nothing changes whatsoever based on his question, which makes it utterly pointless.

00:10:01.140 It was like the daylight savings question we had back in like 2023 or 2022 or whatever.

00:10:06.820 Even then, if people had taken one side definitively, something would have changed.

00:10:10.560 What it is, is saying, okay, do you want to vote?

00:10:13.580 Everybody, let's just keep things the same.

00:10:15.180 Okay, if the yes side wins that, everything stays the same.

00:10:17.440 If the no side wins it, everything stays the same.

00:10:20.660 Because it's still not a constitutionally valid question through that process on it.

00:10:25.500 So, you know, as we said, no matter what side of it you're on, that won't settle it, that won't have this issue out.

00:10:32.560 This needs to be, I think, if we really want to put this to bed one way or another, it has to be the valid question with constitutional teeth.

00:10:38.860 Well, even if the courts do disallow the Citizens Initiative question from State Free Alberta, the one asking Alberta should be an independent country, but Thomas Lukasics is for some reason allowed to go ahead, even though it's ostensibly kind of the same thing, but not.

00:10:58.240 The way the legislation is set up is that then the question is reviewed by the legislature and the cabinet, and they have the opportunity to amend it.

00:11:06.740 Now, it's important that that power should not be abused.

00:11:10.980 But, I mean, you know, say someone put forward a Susan's Initiative question here, but the question was not fair or neutral.

00:11:16.460 It's important.

00:11:17.560 That is one of the draws on direct democracy is you can't have loaded questions.

00:11:22.080 You know, do you support the government's policy of rainbows and puppies?

00:11:26.060 That's obviously not a very fair, neutral question.

00:11:28.700 So even if Lukasik's question is the only one allowed to go forward,

00:11:32.740 the legislature and the cabinet can then amend it

00:11:35.760 into something that is fair and neutral and ask,

00:11:38.980 and actually, I don't even think it should be yes and no.

00:11:41.200 It should be something like,

00:11:43.500 the option should be remain a province of Canada

00:11:46.060 or become an independent country, not yes and no.

00:11:49.780 Because there's a perception of perhaps the positive, the yes.

00:11:52.640 I'd see a clarity challenge as soon as we hit that.

00:11:55.400 It has to be yes or no to keep it simple.

00:11:57.880 Oh, no, no, but instead of yes and no, it's

00:11:59.660 remain a province of Canada or become an independent

00:12:01.640 country. And then the debate becomes about

00:12:03.680 what an independent country means. 0.97

00:12:05.340 I know, I know it sounds foolish and pedantic, but 0.91

00:12:08.020 this really has to be 0.91

00:12:09.920 jury association, all that.

00:12:11.560 There it's a debate, but here, no one's talking

00:12:13.740 about sovereignty association or any

00:12:15.620 word games like that. Here it's like

00:12:17.280 Alberta, independent

00:12:19.880 or remain a province. I think

00:12:21.820 it's pretty clear in the Alberta context, perhaps not

00:12:23.780 in Quebec.

00:12:24.140 Well, Lukasik is now saying he just really wants a vote in the legislature.

00:12:31.860 So is it possible that both petitions could go forward?

00:12:36.240 Lukasik gets his vote and there's a sovereignty referendum?

00:12:40.380 Technically, his could get a vote in the legislature,

00:12:42.560 and then the state-free Alberta pro-independence one then goes to a referendum.

00:12:46.840 But I mean, both have them.

00:12:48.920 Or even something that could possibly happen,

00:12:51.040 and I don't expect this because this would really muddy the waters.

00:12:54.140 But his is a policy question and the other one's a constitutional one.

00:12:59.040 Both could run one-on-one ballot.

00:13:01.080 But what if they contradicted each other?

00:13:01.940 I know.

00:13:02.500 How about the interdiction?

00:13:03.340 So that's just what I'm saying.

00:13:05.440 It's going to have to clarify one way or another.

00:13:07.340 Part of the legislation, actually, though, does require that the legislature and the cabinet are supposed to make sure we don't have redundant questions.

00:13:16.680 You know, like imagine if, you know, everyone was really hopped up on, say, daylight savings time.

00:13:22.620 And you had like, you know, different versions of the question, kind of more somewhat asking the same thing.

00:13:30.040 And then you would daylight savings time was kind of a confusing thing to me.

00:13:33.060 I actually don't think it should have been put to a referendum there.

00:13:35.720 There was I was like, no, experts make a decision.

00:13:38.120 Let me know.

00:13:39.240 Yeah.

00:13:40.420 But, you know, if you had the contradictory questions, the legislation says that the legislature and the cabinet are supposed to sort it out so that we don't have a bunch of redundant or contradictory questions.

00:13:51.080 we'll see what happens

00:13:53.160 it's Smith's problem now

00:13:55.040 you know the thing is

00:13:55.860 this needs to be settled

00:13:57.860 so that we can get on with other things

00:13:59.780 and maybe the other thing

00:14:01.580 that needs to be get on with

00:14:02.700 is Alberta independence

00:14:03.820 but just to continue to have this out there

00:14:07.760 dividing people

00:14:09.020 is not helpful to anybody

00:14:11.880 not even the people who want to stay in Canada

00:14:14.840 who still have an uncomfortable feeling

00:14:17.920 that the guy across the street

00:14:19.580 may not be with them on this

00:14:21.080 has to get sorted out so the question to ask is the one that at least gives clear lead and everybody

00:14:26.360 needs to know that whatever the result on this it doesn't if it is a pro-independence voice

00:14:32.440 there's a whole new cycle uh process that begins so this is just the start

00:14:41.640 i i you know i was driving up to red deer on monday and we're past a

00:14:46.040 It must have been about a mile and a half.

00:14:49.600 Carol Kay, the vehicles with the Alberta flags at the back.

00:14:52.940 I don't know whether you saw them.

00:14:54.400 At any rate, quite impressive.

00:14:56.740 They were just there, the lights flashing, and the flags up,

00:14:59.780 and people were honking as they go on.

00:15:01.720 There's a lot of juice in this movement.

00:15:05.640 It needs to be decided.

00:15:08.420 All right.

00:15:10.140 Well, flowing very neatly from this is our very lazily titled

00:15:15.620 next segment, Listgate.

00:15:19.720 I really do.

00:15:22.160 We're a part of the problem.

00:15:23.760 We're a part of the problem, guys.

00:15:25.840 When the media is too lazy

00:15:27.740 or uncreative to come up with a scandal name,

00:15:30.140 we add Gate to the end.

00:15:32.740 But in this

00:15:33.920 case, we really didn't have much time, I guess.

00:15:37.500 So, what is alleged to have happened?

00:15:40.740 I think most

00:15:41.680 people watching will have read or heard

00:15:43.880 at least some of it.

00:15:45.620 is, you know, Elections Alberta provides

00:15:48.060 total lists of all the electors

00:15:49.960 in Alberta. I think it's roughly 2.8

00:15:51.880 million around there

00:15:53.400 right now. These lists are provided to all

00:15:55.840 the political parties, and on a local

00:15:57.920 level, they can be provided to local candidates running.

00:16:00.980 But there's strict

00:16:01.900 rules around

00:16:03.100 how

00:16:04.740 they're not allowed to share them.

00:16:08.000 Now, there is some stuff around third-party vendors

00:16:09.920 who can do work for them.

00:16:11.660 There is some stuff like that.

00:16:13.740 But they're strictly confident.

00:16:15.620 what's alleged to have happened here

00:16:18.460 is that the Republican Party of Alberta

00:16:20.280 which is an independent supporting

00:16:22.360 political party

00:16:23.480 led by Cam Davies

00:16:26.360 that's someone that

00:16:27.660 at least Corey and I

00:16:29.760 dealt with in the past

00:16:32.380 in our time with Wild Rose

00:16:34.080 and the United Conservative Party and things like this

00:16:35.840 it's alleged that they had provided

00:16:40.360 the list of electors

00:16:42.260 to something called

00:16:44.280 the Centurion Project

00:16:45.300 which is led by David Parker

00:16:46.980 also someone who

00:16:48.720 we've known and worked with in

00:16:51.160 previous political lives here

00:16:52.640 and that the Centurion Project which is

00:16:57.360 I guess kind of jumped

00:16:59.300 into the independence movement

00:17:01.180 that's going on here, they had an app

00:17:03.280 and the app had the

00:17:05.220 full list of electors in it

00:17:06.600 and I guess it was not built very

00:17:08.900 safely as I'm understanding this

00:17:11.100 and that it was possible for someone to

00:17:13.200 go into that app and then obtain the entire

00:17:15.200 list of electors of Alberta, including their personal information, their address, all of this.

00:17:22.860 And, you know, some people have tried to play this down. It's not a big deal. In one sense,

00:17:29.680 I get that. Been around politics. These lists do get around. They're not as confidential as you

00:17:35.520 think. But generally, people who are playing around these lists don't post it online for

00:17:41.980 the world to see and and that's really where they they appear to have lost the plot here um

00:17:48.120 i guess we'll talk about the political fallout of this for the independence movement

00:17:52.920 uh in a moment but cory first uh you know your thoughts on the credibility of the accusations

00:18:01.460 um you know and how serious an issue is this sure and i think yeah nigel's going to break

00:18:07.120 down a little more about the legislation on the act and so on uh just to point out one thing i

00:18:11.640 like people wondering though if it's you know questionable evidence or things like that and

00:18:16.060 everything and i know we can't fully condemn until things have been investigated but i just want to

00:18:20.260 quickly explain salted lists because non-political people i don't think most people get that what

00:18:24.180 that is so when they give those lists out to different parties and individuals they will

00:18:27.920 throw a few identifiers in there usually false names people that don't exist whatever and it'll

00:18:32.920 be unique to each list that's given out so that way two things can happen with fake phone numbers

00:18:37.720 and fake emails. Yeah. So if those names pop anywhere, they're unique. You know where it came

00:18:44.440 from. The second thing is if they pop anywhere, whoever has it, even if it wasn't from the original

00:18:48.860 source, you know that this source has accessed an electoral list. So it's pretty cut and dry by the

00:18:57.180 looks of things with what they presented to get the injunction. Elections Alberta went in and

00:19:01.280 checked it. They concluded it's an electoral list that's in the Centurion project, which there's

00:19:07.300 two problems there. One, they shouldn't have even have it in the first place. Two, they sure as

00:19:11.480 heck shouldn't have it so that others can access it. So we've got two problems there, and they did

00:19:16.560 conclude it came from the Republican Party. Now there's a whole lot of explaining to do, I guess,

00:19:21.460 on the part of Davies and Parker as to how this all happened. That'll be the part of the

00:19:25.300 investigation, but it's looking pretty darn clear that this happened. The problem now, the political

00:19:31.500 problem is people don't, at large, don't see the six or seven different independence groups and

00:19:36.960 actions and things that are moving around out there they just see an independence movement

00:19:40.880 and they're seeing that this breach came from this movement may have endangered people legacy

00:19:47.700 media is jumping all over it the the best example i saw already they were reporting on apparently a

00:19:52.120 a woman who was afraid of uh an ex who was a spousal abuser who tried to keep her

00:19:58.280 location discreet now fears so badly that her ex maybe had accessed the list through that

00:20:05.140 and got her address that she has to

00:20:07.400 move. I don't know if it's anecdotal or

00:20:09.400 whatever, but it does actually still illustrate

00:20:11.480 the gravity of sharing people's personal

00:20:13.320 information and how badly it can go.

00:20:15.980 Yeah.

00:20:17.620 So the

00:20:18.940 Centurion project here was not

00:20:21.420 a part of Stay Free Alberta.

00:20:24.920 As far

00:20:25.620 as I know, I think they were trying to assist

00:20:27.280 with people getting signatures, but it was not affiliated

00:20:29.420 with it.

00:20:30.340 The four of us could get together and we

00:20:33.020 call it the Thursday Club and every Thursday

00:20:35.020 we go sit at this corner and we collect

00:20:37.000 signatures. That doesn't make us necessarily

00:20:39.040 affiliated with it, but groups can

00:20:41.060 come on and jump into it.

00:20:44.040 People not

00:20:45.000 actively involved in the independence

00:20:47.120 movement don't understand

00:20:48.260 how wildly decentralized

00:20:50.760 this thing is. Even people in the same groups

00:20:53.160 fight like cats and dogs.

00:20:55.460 It's wild, let alone

00:20:56.840 the different groups themselves.

00:20:58.620 There's different political parties,

00:21:00.880 different third parties, there's third party advertisers,

00:21:03.180 There's educational groups.

00:21:05.740 There's all these different things.

00:21:07.160 But as Corey said, Nigel, people just see the independence guys.

00:21:13.260 They don't understand who's who and what's what.

00:21:16.140 And we can't reasonably expect them to.

00:21:20.940 How much damage do you think this has done?

00:21:24.060 And again, these are allegations at this point.

00:21:26.440 But as Corey explained with the salted lists, you know, when someone at Elections Alberta gets an email saying,

00:21:32.280 and the recipient is

00:21:35.300 McLovin from Grand Prairie

00:21:37.900 well they know that

00:21:39.920 McLovin was on

00:21:41.440 the list we gave to this political party

00:21:43.720 this stuff is not rocket science

00:21:46.280 how much damage

00:21:47.440 do you think there's been significant damage done

00:21:49.820 to the independence movement

00:21:51.620 by this kerfuffle

00:21:52.860 yeah I actually do 0.87

00:21:53.980 it's a clown show

00:21:56.060 I went on their website

00:21:58.420 Centurion Project

00:22:00.140 and they state that what they're trying to do is get people organized so that they were effective

00:22:05.980 campaigners in the fight for alberta independence and come to our come to our meetings come to our

00:22:12.300 classes and it's uh that you can you can see but then you find that they have they are alleged

00:22:23.340 to have done something underhanded and everybody who is sort of on the on the edge not another die

00:22:31.740 hearts the die hearts on either side are not affected by this but people are making up their

00:22:36.300 mind what do i feel that i sure don't like ottawa i don't like the values that they are pushing on

00:22:42.060 us through their legislation i don't like their the way they interfere with our economy maybe

00:22:46.380 it is time to look at this oh wait a minute if it's going to be people like this and they're

00:22:52.940 they're not even charged and and convicted yet but it just seems like a bit of a groucho marks show

00:22:59.960 and what would it does do damage now they're the victims being examined uh there may be charges

00:23:10.180 in my i had to have an office bet i'd say there will be charges uh and then we'll see what the

00:23:17.280 courts make of what has happened here but if we first of all have this ridiculous uh breach and

00:23:25.800 then on top of that somebody gets put in jail for a year for a year and ends up with a hundred

00:23:30.540 thousand dollar fine which is what the legislation provides for it's going to be a black mark for the

00:23:36.120 whole well by the time they actually would go to a court i imagine that would be well after a

00:23:41.040 referendum actually takes place maybe derek but then after the referendum takes place if i shot 0.56

00:23:46.180 you right now. I'm still not in court for a year.

00:23:49.280 No, no.

00:23:50.060 Don't forget the RCMP is

00:23:52.100 leading the investigation. Yeah, yeah.

00:23:53.800 And if they wanted to lay charges, say,

00:23:56.040 October 1st, they will do that.

00:23:58.660 So it is possible. I would not be surprised to see charges.

00:24:00.360 But there's no way you would have a

00:24:01.720 completed trial in that time.

00:24:04.260 Nothing in the Canadian justice system

00:24:06.120 because it's anywhere cold.

00:24:08.100 Yeah, so it would muddy the water.

00:24:10.160 It would muddy the water and they'd say, hey,

00:24:11.980 these guys are being charged. And that's what they want to do?

00:24:14.180 Yeah. So you don't even need the

00:24:16.180 the court case completed in this.

00:24:19.860 One guy grinning like a treasure

00:24:21.840 cat right now is Jason Kenney.

00:24:26.080 Some will recall David Parker

00:24:28.080 was an organizer in the move

00:24:30.700 ousting Jason Kenney from the leadership of the UCP and therefore

00:24:33.760 as Premier. So obviously there's some hurt feelings

00:24:36.720 I think there. It's probably a fair assumption to make.

00:24:40.400 And I guess someone

00:24:42.760 joined one of these Centurion 0.77

00:24:45.540 group

00:24:46.200 Zoom calls, one of these video calls

00:24:49.380 and they were explaining different things and they were going

00:24:51.600 through the database

00:24:52.380 and it's alleged that they

00:24:55.000 pulled up an example of how you can search

00:24:57.680 for voters information, they pulled up Jason Kenney's

00:24:59.720 information, it was displayed on the screen

00:25:01.600 there

00:25:01.940 Jason Kenney is lawyering up

00:25:05.820 to, I guess, file

00:25:07.560 a civil suit against Parker

00:25:09.520 and the Centurion group

00:25:10.900 for breaching his data.

00:25:13.400 In this particular case,

00:25:15.120 I think it's a bit rich

00:25:16.360 considering Jason Kenney is responsible

00:25:19.100 for the single biggest data breach in Alberta's

00:25:21.200 history by requiring people to disclose

00:25:23.300 their personal medical information.

00:25:24.880 I don't care if he was a murderer. It still doesn't

00:25:27.160 justify breaching his bloody information.

00:25:29.520 You are

00:25:31.120 comparing apples and oranges, Eric,

00:25:33.460 and you are so wrong.

00:25:34.740 What I'm saying is it's wrong. What I'm saying is it's rich

00:25:37.100 for Jason Kenney to be complaining about

00:25:38.920 a data breach because he's imposed data breaches on every single person in alberta

00:25:43.160 it still doesn't make them accessing his personal information right and he's probably going to have

00:25:49.720 a pretty reasonable case to a fairly decent case to make in a civil claims court here because his

00:25:54.920 data his his data was breached what i'm saying is it's a bit rich for him after he expects people

00:26:01.880 required people by law to give out their personal medical information when they go to a restaurant

00:26:06.680 to buy a cup of coffee don't buy it sorry it's just when you don't know i'm i i i don't like

00:26:17.320 the comparison you know jason kenny was not putting people's home addresses up for other

00:26:24.440 people to see other people to search through right there's dangerous lunatics out there who now know

00:26:30.120 where jason kenny lives and uh you know i wouldn't be surprised to see a police car parked out there

00:26:36.040 him for a while well i mean kenny put that out and again whether you like him or don't

00:26:40.200 you've really armed him he's a political master they're not getting around that and there goes

00:26:45.320 art paulowski with a good dose of crazy jumping in there yeah and putting a thing up saying jason

00:26:50.720 kenny's gonna burn in hell and a whole bunch of stuff and everything else and kenny quote tweeted 0.71

00:26:54.100 him and said this is the kind of lunatic my dad i just got exposed to and he and yes so what's 0.98

00:26:59.920 happened is people have handed 0.67

00:27:01.740 Kenny a cudgel to beat this

00:27:03.900 with because he's not

00:27:05.600 wrong there. He's not wrong.

00:27:08.100 This kind of thing is dangerous.

00:27:10.040 I don't, there's a lot of, I get death threats

00:27:11.620 not irregularly.

00:27:13.960 I think you get them too.

00:27:15.560 And I don't want these people knowing where I live.

00:27:18.740 People shouldn't know where he lives.

00:27:20.300 And they've handed him a political cudgel.

00:27:22.140 The problem is when some of the conversation, though,

00:27:24.060 I guess what Dave and I are kind of chipping to, when people say

00:27:26.160 though, well, what was wrong?

00:27:27.460 done to kenny was wrong but well there doesn't need to be a button in this conversation right

00:27:31.300 no i've got that that's just kind of almost trying to undersell the the problem not just

00:27:35.940 jason kenny's that it was it was leaked oh yeah yours mine dave nigel's everyone watching here

00:27:42.820 threats might have been logged into centurion and found our home addresses and it's a real concern

00:27:47.460 yeah and the other thing i've got hands jason kenny a cudgel it also hands him a loud speaker

00:27:52.420 He's going off to Ryerson University to what do they call it now?

00:27:56.340 Toronto Metropolitan, big event there about disinformation.

00:28:02.580 This isn't disinformation, but he can certainly talk about it there to a national audience.

00:28:07.780 You know, we've got people in Alberta, this is the kind of thing they do.

00:28:11.540 And he will make himself a national hero.

00:28:16.420 I suspect that that might, I mean, he couldn't have orchestrated this,

00:28:21.140 but he's certainly going to use it in my opinion as a mr kenney would like to return to politics

00:28:25.940 and if he does so it's going to have to be elsewhere than in alberta and so in the national

00:28:31.620 stage this just fits the plot he's it was a good day for him yeah i'm sure he's just a bad one

00:28:38.260 perhaps a bit nerve-wracked i mean you still wonder about who may show up or whatnot but

00:28:41.460 he recognizes a political gift when it was handed and you can't blame him for taking advantage of

00:28:45.700 it of course he's going to take it and people of the independence movement are getting upset with

00:28:48.820 me calling this out and everything but most of what i'm at least telling them guys don't give

00:28:53.940 your opponents ammunition i mean you gave kenny a nuclear bomb i mean i know the average independent

00:28:59.780 supporter did not do that this was the actions of a small group but when you try to look like

00:29:05.460 you're defending the actions of that small group you're only helping him so yeah i think part of

00:29:11.940 the problem or the one of the overall problems is this is the independence is still a group lacking 0.59

00:29:17.380 a leader right and you've got this clown show as as nigel aptly described it operating on on the

00:29:23.860 sidelines but they're all part of the movement right somebody has to step forward and say enough

00:29:30.820 david parker cam davies you're out we want nothing to do with you anything you say from now on is

00:29:37.380 not associated with the independence movement uh you know but who's going to do that i'm not sure

00:29:43.540 sure anyone has the uh the moral authority to the closest might be mitch sylvester at this time just

00:29:47.580 as the most dominant figure of the largest group uh that represents it but then that group itself

00:29:52.540 has multiple people who kind of speak publicly for it and they're giving different messages yeah

00:29:56.880 so that makes it difficult as well i mean if somebody's going to take that role i i've said

00:30:02.360 it kind of on my show mitch because i think for the most part you've done great and you've been

00:30:06.780 respectable and good and haven't said anything crazy but you got to kind of lay down the law

00:30:09.960 say you know what i'm now the one who speaks for this group i'm the one who goes to cbc as opposed

00:30:14.440 to somebody else who recently did i'm the one who does the large media quotes because it's like that

00:30:18.680 corpulent guy you were talking about yes you know good luck yeah i know he's hurting cats and uh the

00:30:26.120 same kids who heard it mr kenny out of office yeah but it was named it and y'all if they had the

00:30:31.480 chance but if they want to try and mitigate things because we got five and a half months to go and

00:30:34.920 there's going to be more issues hopefully nothing as big as this but there's going to be more

00:30:38.520 somebody has to, you know, as I put online too, if you don't take control of the messaging,

00:30:42.820 your opponents will. And the other side is going to be more or less united. I think what's shaping

00:30:49.100 up is you're going to have, broadly speaking, maybe even it's one organization, but you're

00:30:54.160 going to have two main spokesmen or two and a half spokesmen on the Federalist side. You're

00:30:59.740 going to have Jason Kenney, who's trying to appeal to conservatives who are flirting with the idea,

00:31:04.760 soft, you know, soft,

00:31:06.240 as he would call them, or separatist

00:31:08.560 curious, whatever term you want to use.

00:31:10.740 People who are not happy with

00:31:12.380 the status quo,

00:31:14.040 but are not on the

00:31:16.480 left. And then you're going to have Nenshi

00:31:18.420 slash Thomas Lukasik or something

00:31:20.720 speaking to the left

00:31:22.280 to try and, you know, they're pretty united

00:31:24.480 on their side, but trying to at least pump up their numbers,

00:31:26.740 get them out to vote in big numbers.

00:31:29.000 So the other, the Federalist

00:31:30.620 side is going to be pretty united, because they have

00:31:32.520 they have definitely two different messages

00:31:35.180 because they're appealing to people

00:31:36.260 who do not vote the same way in elections.

00:31:39.020 The independent side, pro-independent side

00:31:41.100 is more politically homogenous. 0.95

00:31:42.520 It's almost entirely of the right

00:31:44.940 in some form or another.

00:31:48.020 But I don't know.

00:31:49.760 There's probably two dozen people

00:31:51.240 who either lay claim

00:31:52.640 or would like to lay claim to the leadership.

00:31:55.240 And it's a mess.

00:31:57.800 We'll see what happens.

00:31:59.240 We'll see how it evolves.

00:32:00.500 Part of the problem too is this is uncharted.

00:32:01.900 this is unprecedented we haven't had an organic kind of decentralized movement like this do

00:32:07.320 something like this before so where do you find the rule book on how to pull it together now that

00:32:11.740 you're getting into a campaign mode for a referendum there's an area actually i don't

00:32:15.180 have an answer for a loud mouth that i normally you don't have a good but you could you think

00:32:19.540 you maybe point to quebec which is that two referendums but there it's different they were

00:32:22.700 not citizens initiative referendums you had a you had an independence or sovereigntyist party

00:32:27.560 whatever you want to call it, you know, the PQ, and then you had a Federalist Party in the Liberals.

00:32:32.920 And so it was clear, OK, the Premier of the Governing Party to call the election is the head of the yes side

00:32:38.460 and the leader of the opposition, the Liberal Party in Quebec's case, is the head of the no side.

00:32:43.920 And it's set. Now, in 95, they kind of swapped in Lucien Bouchard, the leader of the bloc, to come in.

00:32:51.380 But he was not still technically the leader of the yes side. He was made chief negotiator, so head spokesman, essentially.

00:32:56.960 We don't have that clear model here

00:32:59.020 because this is Citizens Initiative.

00:33:02.120 See what happens.

00:33:03.260 I don't know.

00:33:04.220 Normally it would be the premier,

00:33:06.620 but this is just totally different.

00:33:10.760 Okay.

00:33:12.360 Let's talk to something

00:33:13.320 more cheerful. Our new

00:33:14.920 Governor General.

00:33:17.200 Dave, I know you're a proud monarchist.

00:33:20.100 Yes.

00:33:21.300 Louis Arbour.

00:33:22.480 selected

00:33:27.440 she couldn't be worse 1.00

00:33:32.780 I guess than some of the other 0.55

00:33:34.680 more recent ones

00:33:36.060 probably at least a bit smarter 1.00

00:33:39.100 actually Julie Payette was not unsmart 1.00

00:33:40.980 she was an astronaut 1.00

00:33:41.580 they don't make dummies astronauts 1.00

00:33:43.320 anyway

00:33:45.000 I guess

00:33:47.540 your thoughts on who's representing the crown

00:33:50.620 well

00:33:52.420 Well, it was a strange choice.

00:33:54.460 I mean, you can't argue with her credentials.

00:33:56.900 She's had a long and stellar career.

00:34:00.820 She is the oldest governor general appointee.

00:34:04.700 She's 79 years old.

00:34:06.960 And as governor general, she also leads the Canadian Armed Forces in a symbolic role.

00:34:13.620 If you take a look, take a bit of a deeper dive into her career.

00:34:18.600 She's said a lot of stuff that should be concerning to us all. 0.90

00:34:22.420 She has spoken out on migration and is all for mass migration into the country.

00:34:32.080 She's spoken out against the military, which she now supposedly has. 0.96

00:34:37.640 Says the armed forces are just a bunch of white guys who like to shoot off guns. 1.00

00:34:42.660 I agree with her. 1.00

00:34:43.680 I just think that's a good thing.

00:34:44.900 Yes.

00:34:45.620 Yes.

00:34:46.020 I just didn't know what the majority of.

00:34:47.080 And the Jewish groups aren't happy because she's made a lot of anti-Israeli comments.

00:34:54.140 So, I mean, that's just in a small dive in 24 hours.

00:34:58.000 So there's lots of stuff to be concerned about.

00:35:02.660 But hey, she does speak French, and isn't that all that matters?

00:35:07.300 Yeah, I don't think it is. 0.85

00:35:09.060 You know, I did a little bit of looking up as well.

00:35:12.760 I mean, she is the governor general.

00:35:14.580 she is not governing but she is advising when you look at some of the positions that she's taking

00:35:20.500 you know this is not a person who should be advising the prime minister of canada i mean

00:35:26.180 it's just just a couple just to amuse you uh back around the turn of the century there was a right

00:35:32.020 to welfare case in quebec the gossela case it got turned down there was no right to welfare but 0.96

00:35:39.540 she was one of the minority you thought that there was a right to welfare um you know she

00:35:46.500 you mentioned the refugees uh this this one might cheer you up a little bit she participated in a

00:35:52.500 monk debate monk is a is a you know monk uh anyway this was back in 2016 concerning what was being

00:35:59.700 called a global refugee crisis at the time you know you remember people getting washed up on

00:36:04.260 Mediterranean Nihilist. So it was a valid thing. And she said then that Western nations have a 1.00

00:36:09.540 moral imperative to accept a large influx of refugees. Ended up we did anyway. But in this 1.00

00:36:17.220 debate, she began the evening with 77% of those in the room in favor of her liberalist position.

00:36:26.740 And she went up against Mark Stein and Nigel Farage. And at the end of the night, only 22%

00:36:32.980 and the audience was still with her.

00:36:34.980 So, you know, maybe there's a little hope.

00:36:36.700 She began with 77 and ended with 22.

00:36:38.780 That's right.

00:36:39.580 Well, I'm not sure we should be too worried about her convincing anyone of anything,

00:36:43.320 then, as Governor General.

00:36:44.280 Well, you see, Mr. Carney, I expect it to be one of the 22%.

00:36:48.140 So, he does get, he carries, well, the whole thing with the International Criminal Court,

00:36:55.280 I could go on, like, I've got about a dozen things on the rap sheet here.

00:36:58.360 None of it, we like, so, bad choice.

00:37:00.480 I will say when it comes to the Governor-General, there's not a lot of jobs I think you probably should speak French, or at least need to speak French for.

00:37:10.240 Like the Supreme Court. 0.63

00:37:11.320 No, because otherwise it disqualifies Westerners, even most Ontarians.

00:37:16.800 The Governor-General is a ceremonial role, and that includes in Quebec.

00:37:23.200 So I'm okay.

00:37:24.740 You know, French probably should be something for the Governor-General.

00:37:28.060 But also, you know, one of the arguments against it was if you require that they speak English and French, that does virtually disqualify nearly all indigenous Canadians, because they might speak, you know, I don't know how many people growing up on Siksika Reserve are going to be learning French.

00:37:46.860 Didn't disqualify Mary Simon.

00:37:49.900 Exactly. 1.00

00:37:50.620 And she got a ton of black people. 0.75

00:37:53.640 It's such a big deal now. 0.67

00:37:55.020 So it's like, OK, if we're required, they speak French and English. I would chance to guess that that would probably put future Indigenous candidates for the job of Governor General.

00:38:07.600 I'm just going to guess and say it's less than one percent of Indigenous people would be even eligible for it.

00:38:15.000 I don't know. It's what I was blown away by, though, was the and I shouldn't be. 0.94

00:38:20.300 I've got to stop picking up Charlie Brown's football here,

00:38:22.500 but was the virtually unanimous and unqualified endorsement

00:38:29.220 of Louis Arbour by the legacy media.

00:38:33.400 Maybe we'll pull up some pieces from this Colton Miller article here,

00:38:36.840 but paraphrasing it, it said she is essentially perfect.

00:38:40.680 There's nothing wrong.

00:38:42.100 This is it.

00:38:45.080 Oh, my God!

00:38:46.680 The fire alarm!

00:38:48.260 No, the emergency alarm.

00:38:49.240 Emergency alarm.

00:38:50.300 and that bypasses mute buttons i'm afraid it's just a test they announced that was coming a while ago

00:38:59.580 i shouldn't do that okay so everybody out there yes where's our fire warden

00:39:04.780 come on in the studio bring in the western standard fire warden

00:39:08.300 bring him in boy he was on the ball yeah so ladies and gentlemen uh i want to introduce

00:39:13.820 the dwight shrewd of the western center calgary office

00:39:20.300 this is the Western City's new

00:39:22.500 office fire warden, Josh Andrus.

00:39:25.480 Part-time, he is the...

00:39:26.820 Well, you failed.

00:39:30.380 Look how long it took you to get here.

00:39:32.100 He's outfitted, safe, and official to me.

00:39:35.480 I would follow him down 0.96

00:39:36.640 if I were to escape, and then maybe strangle him. 0.98

00:39:41.060 Well, I'll make jokes about that,

00:39:42.540 are you?

00:39:43.360 You're going to fly?

00:39:44.540 Yes.

00:39:48.400 Wow. 0.98

00:39:50.300 We're calling other people clowns. 0.94

00:39:55.300 Yeah, we're accusing everyone else of being a circus. 0.83

00:39:59.300 Well, there we are.

00:39:59.880 Very honestly, folks, that was not rehearsed.

00:40:01.920 We didn't even work.

00:40:04.720 All right.

00:40:06.780 Okay, anyway, just the Globe Mail saying,

00:40:08.480 they highlighted how great and supportive she is of the military, 0.70

00:40:14.920 unless it's white guys with guns, which, I don't know,

00:40:18.580 made up uh you know there would have been some non i guess white people it would have definitely

00:40:26.300 certainly been indigenous canadians but like not overwhelmingly all our veterans who fought in both

00:40:31.600 world wars and in korea uh i i guess they're just not up it's not for her i don't know uh but for

00:40:37.740 them to even highlight how great and supportive she is of the military with you know with those

00:40:43.240 kinds of comments um it's like the global mail's endorsement of her was written in the prime

00:40:53.000 minister's office it was just so over the top no one's perfect for a job i i'm perfect for

00:40:58.200 governor general and they would never find anything on me but uh i i don't know it was

00:41:03.720 just over the top and it wasn't just them the cbc coverage was over the top too it went on for hours

00:41:09.720 and now we're sitting in your office.

00:41:11.540 There was nothing on.

00:41:13.140 It was wall-to-wall all day.

00:41:14.480 I haven't seen wall-to-wall coverage like that since 9-11.

00:41:19.780 I know, it was crazy.

00:41:21.480 Last best governor general Canada's had, David Johnson.

00:41:25.120 And unfortunately, he soured it later, after the fact,

00:41:28.180 by associating with Prime Minister farther down.

00:41:31.340 He did mock that up a bit.

00:41:32.420 But in his time as governor general.

00:41:33.660 As governor general.

00:41:34.300 Oh, yeah, he was fine there.

00:41:35.700 And because of part of what he did, like I said,

00:41:37.360 quickly. I had a guest on recently

00:41:39.500 and his name escapes me, as embarrassing as it is. He wrote

00:41:41.440 a book though on Governors General. If you look it up, it was

00:41:43.480 a good book. He was a man who met

00:41:45.320 most of them, very avowed monarchists,

00:41:47.420 which I'm not, but he talked about the role

00:41:49.520 of it and he ripped into Payette 0.82

00:41:51.200 and ripped into how she was 0.64

00:41:53.300 selected as others by a Prime

00:41:55.360 Minister who wasn't terribly bright and

00:41:57.380 we paid the consequences for that.

00:41:59.200 It really is a role where if you just stick

00:42:01.440 to the ceremonial role, be

00:42:03.280 dignified, don't get in the middle of messes,

00:42:05.520 cut the ribbons hand out the awards you can get through it and have respectability within the job

00:42:11.760 so all i'm saying is let's just hope the next one does no damage and uh sits from there cut

00:42:17.360 cut back a bit on your in-flight food yes and you know things will go well all right we're gonna

00:42:23.120 put a plug we're a little short on time because uh the fire that broke out in the in our office

00:42:28.320 here uh so let's put a plug in there go to our parting shots i am gonna break tradition and take

00:42:33.680 first parting shot because I think it flows well

00:42:35.620 because Corey said, you know, easy, you're not

00:42:37.820 a monarchist, but because

00:42:39.540 you support Alberta independence, it's

00:42:41.800 kind of assumed that Alberta, if it's independent,

00:42:43.800 would be a republic. I just

00:42:45.800 want to put out maybe a little food for thought

00:42:47.460 of an alternative. It would be easier to maintain

00:42:49.860 our constitutional structure

00:42:51.380 moving to independence

00:42:53.840 if we kept in place our constitutional structure,

00:42:56.040 which meant an independent Alberta could

00:42:57.960 remain a constitutional monarchy.

00:43:00.480 And it could remain

00:43:01.580 with the House of Windsor

00:43:04.380 I'm just throwing it out there.

00:43:05.580 If we want to do our own thing, we should 0.98

00:43:06.700 bring back any old royal house.

00:43:10.260 You know, of

00:43:10.840 I don't know.

00:43:12.500 Hohenzollern? I'm a little partial to the

00:43:15.560 Hohenzollerns, but I don't know what

00:43:17.240 Vlad the Impaler's family was.

00:43:19.940 Are they still here?

00:43:22.100 I don't know.

00:43:24.100 Let's find some cool

00:43:25.820 Napoleon.

00:43:28.660 I just re-watched Napoleon

00:43:29.620 with Joaquin Phoenix last night, and

00:43:31.180 you know it hit him on saint helen at the end it just i'm not a frenchman but it makes you

00:43:37.020 hugs in your heart like oh 205 years ago today he done 205 years ago today today he done it's fate

00:43:45.900 we're bringing back the house of napoleon alberta not an empire not a commonwealth but

00:43:51.580 uh so not a king and not a not a not a republic not a commonwealth the empire of alberta this

00:43:57.820 the independence movement wasn't enough if we didn't make it crazy enough here we go let's

00:44:02.620 it's paulian for emperor of alberta so you're going to learn french and go for the job of

00:44:06.780 governor general i am i don't know derek listen you're too young i just was looking it up while

00:44:13.340 you were talking there that uh you realize that no less than uh six of i'm sorry five of the last

00:44:20.620 governors general are still alive like this is crazy having five ex-kings ex-queens floating 0.87

00:44:27.180 around that's why we should just have our own monarch well and they all get two hundred thousand

00:44:31.180 dollars a year on expenses permanent expenses you know julie i mean for people who don't believe me

00:44:36.540 just uh mary simon julie payette david johnson michaela jean adrian clarkson so you know uh

00:44:44.220 romeo blabond is not uh died a few years ago yeah uh one of the things about um and i don't mean

00:44:51.580 this unkindly but i'm sure it was in the back of somebody's mind she is already 79 there won't be

00:44:59.420 one more in all likelihood or if there is there won't be for very long i'd say one two three four

00:45:06.620 five yeah all right we we're we gotta move that's good oh we're short on time because of the fire

00:45:11.740 alarm cory i'll just be quick the major projects office to fast track projects is almost a year

00:45:16.780 old now hasn't approved a single one i think we can call it a failure uh honda sounds like they're

00:45:23.980 pulling out of a 15 billion dollar plant down in uh ontario uh just wonder how much the liberals

00:45:31.020 have sunk of taxpayers money into the whole fail failing ev industry it's got to be tens and tens

00:45:38.300 of billions of dollars don't let doug ford off the hook for this stuff too he has been all over it

00:45:42.620 He's been all over.

00:45:43.300 I don't know.

00:45:43.940 I would have never predicted that Canadians don't want to drive electric vehicles

00:45:48.220 in one of the coldest countries on the planet.

00:45:51.980 Okay.

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Western Standard - May 07, 2026

Alberta Independence petition smashes threshold

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