In this episode of the Western Standard, we talk about the Alberta Prosperity Project, the arrest of a satirical piece written in response to the recent events in Alberta, and the continued harassment by Elections Alberta of the project.
00:01:49.140And it turns out that somebody put out a satire piece saying that Marty, an influencer in the separatist movement, had been arrested by whatever, by the RCMP.
00:39:56.460recognized and I hope and pray that Albertans really wake up and
00:40:00.780vote yes to this independence movement because we've
00:40:04.260been abused for far too long. I'm a native
00:40:08.000Calgarian born and raised in Alberta. I love this province but I want to
00:40:12.760see a future for my kids so god bless all of you guys for all the hard work you've done i just
00:40:18.500wanted to phone in and say thank you appreciate that thank you so much um yeah um you know what
00:40:27.220i mean i should have maybe kept the last caller on a little bit longer but i but it's been my
00:40:32.720experience um in just through canvassing for the last two weeks that when you uh um
00:40:40.060um people some i don't know how to say this i haven't found any really good arguments for
00:40:46.320wanting to stay and i haven't found anybody who wants to stay who's who's very genuine in wanting
00:40:53.340to debate so they tend to come here come to me in particular and they just want to shove something
00:40:58.540down you know their opinion on me and they're not really interested in debate i would love to have
00:41:03.860an actual genuine debate with somebody on on uh why they think that alberta should stay in this
00:41:10.740failed experiment called confederation now i think the best example of that we're going to
00:41:14.660have it in the coming weeks here keith wilson is going to debate jason kenney and i think the first
00:41:20.820debate is uh don't quote me and i think it's in edmonton there's there's one in edmonton and
00:41:25.780one in calgary there's going to be two and i look forward to that i have actually reached out to
00:41:30.980friends out east and i have a i have a friend and not another online personality who actually
00:41:39.540he's an ontarian he actually supports us leaving okay so he's in favor of us leaving but he's
00:41:47.380agreed in principle to have a debate with me and we're going to have a very civil debate but he
00:41:52.740you know he says that if that he could put it he can articulate why we should stay even though he
00:41:58.980doesn't think we should stay he can articulate why i'm like okay that's interesting so uh his
00:42:04.180name is greg and i'll see if i can uh i've been trying to set up something i don't want to do it
00:42:08.420now because i don't want to um i had other priorities but in the coming weeks maybe i'll
00:42:12.980have that chat with greg we'll do that online debate and uh even though he supports us greg
00:42:17.860will try his best to uh portray the stay side i definitely look forward to hearing nenshi uh tell
00:42:24.980us why we should stay and others all right caller go ahead name where are you calling from please
00:42:33.300yes hi it's uh gordon calling and i'm calling from edmonton go ahead gordon
00:42:40.180yeah i just want to ask you in regards to elections alberta who is it is what what exactly
00:42:45.460why do they have such authority to be blocking and doing the things they do and who can who can
00:42:50.180make them uh fall in line and do things fairly for both sides because obviously there's a bias
00:42:56.660going on here anybody can pick that out it's it's a it's a yes that's a great question i mean um
00:43:05.780i don't know the solution to people like i don't know individuals marty yeah marty i'm talking
00:43:11.620listen to me who can stop the individual from being that way the premier who can stop them
00:43:18.180because he needs to be stopped we can't that's the system we we we keep vet uh that that the
00:43:26.900individual was put in place by the ndp by rachel notley and they're put in place by law for whatever
00:43:32.500a five-year term so we're stuck with it i think i think the best thing i mean i don't know the
00:43:37.380solution to that to me it'd be it'd be some of these non-partisan roles should be either elected
00:43:42.340or appointed to shorter terms or we should have a recall petition i don't know it's a great question
00:43:49.380gordon it's a great question but i don't i mean it's the same problem with judges it's the same
00:43:53.460problem with so many people right they're appointed and uh they're an unelected and they're biased i
00:43:59.300agree they're biased not only are they biased but they're also in a conflict of interest because
00:44:03.700they'll argue that they that they're unbiased and impartial you can't be impartial when you
00:44:08.660work for the government so yeah it's a problem i it's i i don't know the solution gord it's a great
00:44:14.820question i don't know the solutions what do you propose well we've got it there's got to be a
00:44:19.460check and balance in place somewhere that they can block this yeah usually the check and balance it
00:44:25.780be um yeah it would be shorter terms or or dual role or uh or co co-chairs co-leads right maybe
00:44:32.980have two elections officers two chief electoral officer instead of one and have have them
00:44:38.420appointed you know two years apart on a four-year term so that it's always balanced out i mean
00:44:42.660there's lots of great solutions and and and and thanks for bringing that up i mean these are these
00:44:47.860are the things that when we talk about an independent alberta we have to solve some of
00:44:51.700these problems right and there are other nations on earth that seem to run elections and have no
00:44:56.500problem i i'm i'm i'm on that i believe that i i don't have a faith in elections in canada anymore
00:45:02.740i just don't i just want to bring up one more issue and it's just in regards to the alberta
00:45:09.780prosperity project see now that they're going to be able to get involved and speak for us and
00:45:17.380and put in their two cents now all of a sudden he's making issues with them correct
00:45:23.060so yeah absolutely he he's making issues with boy okay so let's go back and that was the theme of
00:45:33.240the show today the alberta prosperity project right is the the is is a legally is a separate
00:45:39.720entity from uh stay free alberta but it but did but they have some of the same personnel and mitch
00:45:46.060sylvester is the sort of the the president of of both um he was mentioned in the in the legislature
00:45:53.660two days ago i mean nenshi had had it in for him like kept kept mentioning mitch mitch mitch mitch
00:45:59.400mitch and then nenshi was making allegations that mitch was working directly for the premier
00:46:03.400they're all unfounded but in the in the legislature they're almost allowed to lie
00:46:07.560because they have this privilege but but that's a separate thing um i i i've already seen this and
00:46:14.700i'm happy that this is happening i think in the next phase and i talked about it a little bit at
00:46:19.500the beginning of the show i have a lot of people that say we need one leader okay this is a perfect
00:46:24.180segue for that i disagree this is a grassroots movement and we don't need a single leader
00:46:29.000because a there is no leader that will appeal to everyone some people say oh you know they don't
00:46:33.660like mitch or they don't like keith or they don't like whoever you'll never find the perfect leader
00:46:38.140that's but that's a separate problem the moment we have a leader in a grassroots movement that
00:46:42.960leader becomes a target of of attack from from concentrated attack so i'm i'm advocating for no
00:46:50.220leader at this point we don't need one we can we can have an education campaign without a leader
00:46:56.400and we can have a vote and then later on we can choose a leader but what i'm really encouraged
00:47:01.260about what's happening right now is the fact that uh you got the alberta prosperity project but
00:47:07.420you're going to see a whole bunch of other groups appear that are going to help in the education
00:47:11.900and in the fight for independence so you're going to have i can't remember what he's called but but
00:47:16.720chris scott with the whistle stop up in in and mirror he's forming a group basically and then
00:47:22.040you got kathy flatt and and angela taback and others they got their women in in an independence
00:47:27.880group or whatever it's called uh as far as i'm concerned cory morgan's almost a a one-man
00:47:33.220machine on his own uh doing some education i'm i'm associated with a group called the centurion
00:47:39.580project. And there was another one that appeared yesterday. So in the coming weeks, you're going
00:47:43.200to see six, seven, eight, nine groups show up, each of them playing a different role in promoting
00:47:48.800Alberta independence. I'm pretty confident that behind the scenes, those groups will work together
00:47:53.700and start forming sort of a loose coalition and not interfere with each other. But I also hope
00:47:59.160that they don't decide that they need one leader. Is Gord still on the line or I got somebody else?
00:48:05.420Okay, sorry, but I hope that answered the question. Gord, who's on the line? Go ahead,
00:48:09.220please this is Bridget um I'm just calling I'm a young mom who has three children and I'm a huge
00:48:16.660supporter of the Alberta independence movement and I just want to encourage like all the young
00:48:22.840moms out there to just reach out like at your school group like we're all have to stand around
00:48:27.640at school pick up I've met so many young women who are their families are looking to move out0.71
00:48:33.860of the province unless this independence movement goes through and just want to encourage all those
00:48:41.140young women out there just like you can educate people on your own get yourself educated first
00:48:47.200of course learn about our trade learn about our economy and and the horrible bills that are
00:48:54.680making it impossible for our province to flourish but i just wanted to also thank you marty i just
00:49:01.460love your show no thank you so yes you're you're fantastic so you thank you for reminding us all
00:49:07.960you said the key thing there right and it ties into what i just finished we don't need leaders
00:49:12.540individual leaders and put all the burden on the leaders take some of the burden
00:49:16.980yourselves right and you're doing that so i mean there's there's nothing more convincing than you
00:49:22.640having a chat with like you said your neighbor or somebody at the school or whatever and then
00:49:27.260chatting among yourselves and educating yourself so thanks for doing that you by the way where
00:49:31.860what part of alberta were you calling from oh i'm in andre and our our neighborhoods are just
00:49:37.540littered with republic of alberta flags people have massive alberta flags in their yard
00:49:43.440it is like super encouraging out here awesome awesome awesome yeah i tried to get uh paul's
00:49:49.920pizza owner on the show and maybe he'll come in next week he's he created a bit of a firestorm
00:49:55.740with some of his comments but then it keeps uh but but then he's he's impossible to cancel and
00:50:01.260everybody's going there somebody brought me a paul's pizza on uh on the road the other day
00:50:06.460have you ever have you been there absolutely yes absolutely i've been there we actually the first
00:50:12.140well which firestorm it's hard to actually pick one of the first forms he started but not this last
00:50:18.780one where he made a joke that may have been a little inappropriate but it was funny nonetheless
00:50:23.980um we went there for lunch with my kids and it was packed and there was signers there
00:50:31.960um I also got my badge so I can sign people up but uh an old man actually came to Pulse Pizza
00:50:39.660while I was there with my kids to scream at the volunteers there and luckily I was just driving
00:50:48.100by so I kind of just went in between him and my windows were down he could see that I had kids
00:50:52.840then he backed off but it was an interesting lunch yeah no doubt no doubt so just while you're on the
00:51:00.100line just one last quick question so do you still what do you say to people who who who say that
00:51:06.000this is a fringe movement has your thoughts on that changed a little bit do you think it's fringe
00:51:10.340or do you think oh my goodness no i don't know anybody who is voting to stay okay like i do
00:51:16.640actually i have 60 plus people in my family i have a very large family norwegian family
00:51:22.660and everybody but one person is voting for independence my neighbors are voting for
00:51:31.340independence every young person i meet is voting for independence it is so rare for me to actually
00:51:37.400be able to discuss except for at school pickup where there are people who just don't know about
00:51:43.300it but yeah excellent all right it's going very well excellent well thanks for calling in i
00:51:49.720appreciate it and thanks for showing people that it's not scary to call in right i'm not uh i'm
00:51:54.100just an average awesome thank you awesome okay have a wonderful day you too cheers yeah see
00:52:01.140that's awesome right um i i i feel encouraged when i hear that i mean i have days i had more
00:52:09.600good days than bad days canvassing and early on there were some more opponents but then the
00:52:15.440opposition disappeared slowly and i and i and i and i i said this in a video the other day and
00:52:21.440i'll say it again right i there were definitely days where um i noticed a pattern right so i would
00:52:28.720go and set up and canvas and it basically i was set up on a service road with my truck and a table
00:52:35.200and a whole bunch of flags and some days there'd be two three of us so when there was two three of
00:52:39.600us rather than all sit around the table i i had a flag on a hockey stick and i would walk literally
00:52:44.560up and down the highway waving my flag and waving at people and i got honks and everybody was most
00:52:51.200almost everybody was super nice but but i could tell some people would kind of like drive with
00:52:56.560their blinders on you know kind of like don't look don't look don't look like as if they don't want
00:53:01.360to you know life is they want to keep their life simple they want i call it living in blissful
00:53:06.080ignorance like don't look don't look don't don't wonder why people on the side of the road don't
00:53:10.240wonder why they're signing a petition ignore everything and i knew that over time by being
00:53:15.360there day after day after day those people that were driving by couldn't ignore me and and so
00:53:21.040perhaps they went home that night and they talked about it with somebody perhaps they read a story
00:53:24.720perhaps whatever so that's why i did it right i and and you can there's so many ways to winning
00:53:30.400over people it's not it's not always just whatever commercials and and radio shows uh we're still
00:53:36.960good for time yeah excellent go ahead caller man we've had a great turnout thank you for calling
00:53:40.720today where are you calling from and name please oh did you miss him josh oh sorry go ahead
00:53:51.200hello hello yeah yeah go ahead i'd like to speak to uh marty speaking you got him
00:54:00.400Oh, okay, because I hear there must be a delay. Anyway, why I'm calling is, I'm Helen, and I'm calling from the side of Calgary, and I too have great concerns about Election Alberta, and I did not know that the head person or individual was elected or chosen by Rachel Nottley,
00:54:25.600and i i don't think that that's a proper system whatsoever but i think i may have a solution
00:54:32.760and that solution is that level of consciousness where people know themselves well enough they're
00:54:40.560not connected to any party whatsoever and they're therefore non-partisan and a non-bias
00:54:49.680and that's because they know themselves and they're high a very high level of consciousness
00:54:57.500now that's um comes from uh the power of power versus force the hidden determinants of human
00:55:06.660behavior and most of us have been so conditioned through the education system and through
00:55:13.000institutionalized learning and through our parents that we have not developed the necessary skills
00:55:21.460of levels of consciousness to be able to get to obtain such titles no i i i agree i mean uh you
00:55:31.920know and and those qualities should apply to somebody applying to be a chief election officer
00:55:37.940a judge, even a parliamentarian, even a member of mayor, lots of people, right? And I think
00:55:44.040you're pointing out that something's lacking in a lot of people in our society. And in the case
00:55:49.720of the chief elections officer, we're supposed to find that out because the person's name is
00:55:56.800supposed to be submitted to the legislature. And then people are supposed to have a chance to
00:56:00.980question that person to find out their character and see if they're unbiased before they're
00:56:04.500appointed and i think that's a problem right we i i can think of hundreds of individuals who've
00:56:10.420been appointed to roles under that system that shouldn't have been appointed so unfortunately
00:56:15.380we're we're going to need something um a little more rigorous but appreciate the
00:56:21.700comment and the call thank you for calling uh did she did we okay sorry all right um
00:56:30.180um yeah you know that there's again that this is one of the fascinating things um we when when
00:56:39.780an independent Alberta if it's just a mini version of Canada won't work that's not what I want I don't
00:56:47.880I don't want a mini version of Canada I want to think boldly and change and identify some of the
00:56:54.840that don't work like we just did right so i i don't think the election system works hell think
00:57:00.600of all the problems with the election system i don't like i don't i don't even like first past
00:57:04.520the post we never even got to talking about um the redistribution of boundaries that's occurring
00:57:10.120right now and the the claims that there's some gerrymandering maybe that'll be next week's show
00:57:14.440because we'll have more on that but you know a lot of things about our elections can be changed the
00:57:19.080way we vote like first past the poll could be replaced by ranked ballots could be placed by
00:57:23.960popularity there's lots of things we could eliminate parties and only vote for representatives
00:57:28.840we can do lots of things i don't know the answers but when i i hope that in independent alberta we
00:57:35.080will be bold and think about these problems and and fix some of these problems but the other thing
00:57:40.520is when you're fixing problems i'm an engineer a lot of times when i was solving problems i didn't
00:57:46.040start by by by by just diving into a problem and then trying to come up with my own solutions a
00:57:52.440lot of problems have been solved by other people and so you know if i got a corrosion problem in
00:57:58.520my pipe or if i keep having flats on a tire and then something doesn't work i can go see what
00:58:02.920other people have done to fix that problem well the same thing applies to our democracy there's
00:58:07.640no re like we we can go look to see how other nations deal with um with roles or you know like
00:58:15.400like like chief electoral officers do they elect them do they do they have more than one do they
00:58:21.240give limited terms things like that right so that's i i just want to say that we we need to um
00:58:27.080re re think out of the box okay uh producers flashing that we got about a minute left i got
00:58:33.320a call on the lines it's probably just going to be a comment on your part go ahead where
00:58:36.600are you calling from and what's your comment yes hi uh i'm calling from well i'm from leduc but
00:58:43.640uh calling from highway 16 currently um just had a quick statement uh i moved to canada as a kid
00:58:51.000in 2004 went through the canadian school system and figured out that my vote in western canada
00:58:57.160wasn't going to count for anything so i never even bothered to get my citizenship in all these years
00:59:02.360until we come to this question where should uh alberta you know try to get its own uh independence
00:59:11.560here right and it's the first time i feel like there's actually hope and that a vote from a
00:59:19.160citizen here in western canada i would count for something that's awesome um just where'd you come
00:59:24.380from uh germany i was born in germany okay so uh and they came here and then uh interesting so you
00:59:31.600were you were a permanent resident for a long time was it pretty uh matter of fact to get your
00:59:37.000citizenship in the last couple years like uh sort of a rubber oh yeah yeah it's fairly easy but yeah
00:59:42.440it's fairly easy but for me it was just i pay my taxes like everybody else and if i vote or don't
00:59:48.120vote it doesn't really make a big difference right in the grand uh in the grand picture of
00:59:54.940things yeah yeah no you you're you're you're symbolic of a lot of albertans right we used to
00:59:59.720uh we'd wait we'd uh we'd turn on the tv at 8 p.m on uh on a monday night after during the election
01:00:06.500and we'd find out already that the government had been selected and uh declared before they
01:00:11.160even counted our votes so yeah exactly yeah yeah no uh thank you for that and uh thanks for uh
01:00:17.940congrats on becoming a citizen and yes and you know a great reminder to everybody if we get to
01:00:23.900that referendum and you're in that box and you got those three walls and you get to vote take a pause
01:00:28.960just take a brief pause and think about what you're about to do uh it it could be super symbolic so
01:00:35.080thanks for calling i appreciate that all right he's gone uh all right i think we're out of time
01:00:41.880uh i do my little last bit at the end here um thanks to the west thanks for joining me i'm here
01:00:47.240every thursday one o'clock maybe i'll do a 90 minute show i want to start bringing guests i
01:00:51.880think i'm going to bring guests but you guys are this is so encouraging i think i got nine or ten
01:00:55.480calls today the most we've had in a while the show's about you um and uh make sure you uh subscribe
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