00:01:42.840Alberta, though, is reduced to having to offer concessions
00:01:45.860to be allowed to do what every other oil-producing jurisdiction
00:01:49.460on the planet does, and they don't hesitate.
00:01:53.220There's little indication the federal government has any interest in allowing Alberta to expand its resource production and export infrastructure.
00:02:00.400Kearney has talked and talked and talked.
00:02:02.740For over a year now, we aren't an inch closer to getting something done than we were a year ago.
00:02:07.400Premier Daniel Smith keeps setting deadlines and they keep passing.
00:02:11.060Now Smith's celebrating that her and Kearney had more officially entrenched the MOU they created long ago.
00:06:08.580She is dead, but Victoria Day long weekend after the glorious queen, Victoria, you know, was in power a long time in England when England had a true empire.
00:06:21.100You know, not the state that the country is in now, but, you know, just be grateful you get an extra day off.
00:06:26.800Well, certainly I enjoyed the weekend, and at least I referenced it.
00:06:30.820I mean, you know, it's really turned into the May-long weekend for a lot of people.
00:12:18.920though yes knock on wood all right well again hopefully yeah you know some people pay a price
00:12:25.120for it and hopefully there's some more self-examination i mean it is an indication of a real
00:12:29.080social ill i mean this is this is really uh troublesome yep you know you see it happening
00:12:35.380in other cities but this one's hitting close to home it's just up the road yeah well and i saw
00:12:39.460that update in the news too the the girl is recovering anyways and doing well so that much
00:12:43.260is good there's no permanent damage or at least physically anyways apparently one of her attackers
00:12:48.680has kept her glasses as a trophy yeah that's awful on that happy note i shall leave you and
00:12:54.820go back to the news all right thanks for leaving me on an upbeat note i was already in such a fine
00:12:58.480mood today there you go we'll see you on the pipeline i appreciate it thanks dave you bet
00:13:01.860all right that is our news editor dave naylor and yes lots on the go not every story is bright and
00:13:07.360fluffy as you heard but they're all important and we do report on a lot of positive things too
00:13:13.040uh the reason we could do that the reason we're able to and we cover those issues when others0.56
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00:13:36.240been uh I know I was listening in the newsroom reaching out on you know you don't get newsrooms
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00:14:03.160get on there. But yeah, I got to admit, see, I'm a grumpy guy. I'm a tough talker, everything else.
00:14:10.220You know, but when it comes to video images of real violence, I'm not one who likes watching it.
00:14:17.760I think most people don't like watching it, but I just have a really hard time with it.
00:14:20.720So I haven't watched that one with that young girl getting beaten because, you know, you're reading up descriptions and I just can't imagine.
00:14:26.740I think there's enough, at least for me, to get the gist of the problem with that story and things.
00:14:31.040We'll talk a little bit about that after my guest segment, I think, as well, without me watching it.
00:14:35.240But it is available online. It's available on the Western Standard site.
00:14:38.400and it is a serious issue we really got to be discussing we really do I think you know there's
00:14:42.980been violence and there's things that happened in the 50s 60s and so on in schools and such as well
00:14:47.680there's a nature I think of kids and so on but it doesn't mean we have to ignore it we better look
00:14:52.600at this and see what the heck happened all right let's bring in Christopher Scott he is most of
00:14:57.520you already know him the owner of the whistle stop cafe a source of fantastic food east of
00:15:02.820red deer it really is and uh also a good outspoken advocate for independence and just good laws and
00:15:09.460things in general and he's come on to talk to us today about his uh let's talk Alberta initiative
00:15:14.920hey Chris thanks for coming on hey Corey yeah thanks for uh thanks for having me I I did watch
00:15:20.440that video that you mentioned and that's a that's a real heartbreaker it really is yeah no it's uh
00:15:26.820I I guess I could look on the bright side with something that terrible when it's documented at
00:15:31.960least to drive home to people just how big the issue is or how big the problem is uh rather than
00:15:37.220just the written word it sometimes makes the message you know sink in a little more i really
00:15:41.080hope somehow something positive comes out of the discussion and examination of what happens here
00:15:45.440absolutely yep definitely so getting on to something positive and something you've been
00:15:50.480working on uh the the let's talk alberta initiative you know you've been bouncing all
00:15:55.220over the province i've seen you as as far north as uh i saw you in peace river and uh down south
00:16:00.880uh did you come out to hilda yes you did so uh what's going on there well um i i should let you
00:16:08.880know next month we're actually going to be up in indian cabins too so when i say every corner of
00:16:13.440alberta i re i really mean it like we're going all the way north all the way south and then
00:16:18.000both east and west too so we're all over the place um that's just north of high level yeah
00:16:24.480yeah i think i think it's like 30 minutes from the border or something like that i don't know
00:16:27.840know it's it's yeah it's way far up there yeah way far so yeah the the idea with let's talk alberta
00:16:33.640is just that um we want uh we want albertans to start talking with each other about important
00:16:40.660issues that they're going to be deciding on in the fall um i say this at our at our meetings
00:16:46.560you know albertans are going to be asked probably the most important and consequential question
00:16:51.660in their lifetimes about the future of uh of alberta and going into something like that
00:17:00.620it is absolutely critical that people know what they're you know they know what they're
00:17:06.680i guess voting for they know what they're choosing you have to be informed when you
00:17:10.820make these types of decisions if you're not well um yeah we the outcome wouldn't be wouldn't be
00:17:18.500the best so uh yeah that's our goal just to talk to albertans about these issues find out where
00:17:23.860people are at have the discussions and uh you know and see and see how it goes yeah the turnouts have
00:17:30.900been really good and and the discussion has been really good i mean the just to let people know
00:17:34.880it's been a very you know i've attended a number of these i've spoken at them a very interactive
00:17:39.760exercise it's really asking people and inviting people even if they differ with it if they're
00:17:44.440undecided or even opposed, come on in and let's talk. I mean, it's the name of it. And I've really
00:17:50.280enjoyed the Q&A parts. You know, I think we blather a little too long in the opening sometimes.
00:17:53.940Let's just get to asking people, you know, what they want to find out about. It's been a nice
00:17:59.020format. And that's the goal here. It's less, you know, of course, I'm going to share my opinions
00:18:04.620and our presenters will share their personal opinions about what they want the future of
00:18:09.040Alberta to look like. And that's a charter protected right to be able to express yourself
00:18:14.040like that. And then we try and spend less time doing that and more time with the Q&A, more time
00:18:20.060engaging with the people that come. If I could wave a magic wand and get anything I want with
00:18:25.500Let's Talk Alberta, I would have those rooms at least 50%, 60%, 70% filled with people who did
00:18:32.680not share my views, who didn't want a sovereign Alberta. And I would love to talk to them about
00:18:38.140the reasons why. And that's really what's different with Let's Talk Alberta than some of the other
00:18:43.000initiatives is we are more focused on listening to the concerns or the opposition points that
00:18:49.180people have with Alberta taking control of their future through sovereignty. That's more important
00:18:59.400to us than just talking at people for 45 minutes or an hour and telling them why they need to be
00:19:05.200on our side. You've got a wide panel of people who have come out and volunteered to speak at
00:19:10.640these events and talk all sorts of folks uh I don't know what your full list is but you know
00:19:15.000over a dozen or so I think I've seen people who show up and what I I've also found in in being
00:19:19.920one of those on some of those panels people will always throw something at me I never even thought
00:19:24.960of like we come away from those the speakers come away from those as better educated advocates than
00:19:30.920they were when they walked in like like we can't think of everything and people will come up with
00:19:35.520something that holy cow I never even thought about that for a second but it's an excellent question
00:19:39.700or statement uh it's just such a productive exercise yeah and and that stuff is so it's
00:19:46.160it's critical because you know i i'm obviously i'm a personally i'm an advocate for an independent
00:19:51.960alberta i want to see an independent republic of alberta that's my my personal viewpoint um
00:19:57.360and you know i'm going to work to achieve that as best i can through through engaging with
00:20:02.380albertans if we're going to have an independent alberta those of us who are advocating for it
00:20:08.580or have the opinion that we need to go down that path.
00:22:03.180And, you know, I got to point out, this isn't a political thing. This is a grassroots thing. This is I'm just an average guy. I'm a business owner. I'm a father. I'm an Albertan. I'm not a politician. We don't have politicians running the show. This is all run by everyday average Albertans.
00:22:20.000And so, you know, I understand that people are aware that politics has become or always has been this kind of swamp, so to speak.
00:22:30.320But this isn't that. This is something different.
00:22:32.400This is the people finally, for the first time, actually getting together and deciding, hey, this is what we're going to allow the politicians to do.
00:22:40.000And that's really the difference between Let's Talk Alberta and, you know, a different kind of political event.
00:22:46.220Yeah, and for those, you know, interested in wanting to pursue independence or curious about pursuing independence and so on, we're kind of in a in-between point right now.
00:22:54.880You know, the petition really gave everybody something to sink their teeth into and focus on, and they did an incredible job with it all over the province.
00:30:47.460that is one of the best books uh summarizing the independence movement and then the path forward
00:30:53.140i've seen so i hope lots of people buy it thanks i appreciate that all right well that guys that
00:30:59.840was uh chris scott from the whistle stop cafe and as you can see an active albertan out there
00:31:05.420getting stuff done on the ground check it out let's talk alberta the name basically says it
00:31:10.500and uh yeah okotoks tonight and events going on all over the province i don't know if i'll make
00:31:15.960into that Indian cabins one, but you never know. I did one on LaCrete a little while back and
00:31:20.020that's not too far from there actually. So these discussions, I mean, and we can see some of the
00:31:25.280discussion in the comments. It's a complicated issue with a lot of questions, some good.
00:31:32.300Eh, not every question is always good, but there's some better than others. R.C. LeMoureux is saying,
00:31:38.120you know, who's going to hire the bureaucrats that run an independent Alberta? Yeah, bureaucrats are
00:31:42.420one of those evils in life, you know, necessary evils. You can't get away from them, but you really
00:31:48.100want to try and minimize them. I know that there's a risk inherent that an independent Alberta could0.97
00:31:53.160slap in a system that's just as bad as the one that left or, you know, leaves bureaucratic control0.90
00:31:58.620rather than individual control. And that's where I'm talking about us wanting to be as informed as
00:32:03.800we possibly can going into this. Voting, if things became independent, make sure that we're taking
00:32:10.300part in the Constitutional Convention to entrench a system as good as possible. My thoughts are,
00:32:17.000I think most things are cyclical. It's kind of like your phone or your computer. If you leave
00:32:21.740it too long running without a reboot, it gets too bunged up, it slows down, there's way too much
00:32:27.200crap running in the background, and your unit becomes useless. I feel a democracy is pretty
00:32:32.340similar. When you get that bureaucratic bloat that doesn't allow you to move or flex or be
00:32:38.240functional any longer, but we don't have an on-off button. The thing I can see is a reset
00:32:43.880switch actually is an independent phone. Break out, break the system, but rebuild it. It's not like
00:32:49.740that's part of it. You can reboot a computer. I'm not talking about taking a hammer to it and then
00:32:53.440not having a spare computer. Then you're going to be in trouble. Somebody, Wayne, asking about the
00:32:59.260address in Okotoks. I think it's at the Viking Center. People in Okotoks will know that, Viking
00:33:03.140rental center and it's going to be somewhere in there uh you know and rc feels without a miracle
00:33:10.120uh we've lost our land to invaders uh in independent alberta not well i don't know
00:33:13.880i don't give up i mean i i rest assured i'm cynical and i know things are tough and they're
00:33:18.140going to be hard and they won't necessarily go easily but uh i'm still optimistic we just keep
00:33:24.520at it i mean i think things will improve it's just a matter how bad it has to get before people
00:33:28.200ready to do it. And I fear for how bad it will get before it reaches that point, right? Then
00:33:34.820you've got a lot to fix at that point. But the conversations are out there. We've never seen
00:33:40.540anything like this before. We've never moved towards a referendum before. And it's hard to
00:33:48.940say where it's going to go. The support is stronger than ever, but it's also not been growing much
00:33:53.640lately there's still a massive undecided amount out there that if it's going to happen they're
00:33:59.160going to have to be one um an interesting exchange in the house of commons the other day when there's
00:34:04.720been a lot of debate on whether 50 plus one or wouldn't would be enough or not and the federal
00:34:09.400government liberal member of parliament repeatedly under questioning from the bloc said 50 plus one
00:34:14.800is enough that's interesting it's very rarely when they've actually already said and clarified that
00:34:20.060Now, honestly, if Alberta voted with 50% plus one on October 19th to go, I don't think it would be enough to get out just in the fact that it would turn into a nightmare of protests and challenges and fights.
00:34:32.520For this to work, it has to be at least a few percent past 50%.
00:40:34.580country to country. That's your fund. That's your asset. It will go with you. The harder question
00:40:41.720is the tax deferral. So you might, let's say, for example, Alberta becomes independent.
00:40:50.500You have a bunch of crude in your RRSP account, but the way the nature of those accounts work is
00:40:56.920you owe some back taxes when you cash those to the federal government.
00:41:01.640And that's been a neat, sticky one, but basically it can be accounted for. The reality is say we
00:41:08.480become independent, you cash that RRSP, yet you still end up basically having to send a chunk
00:41:12.540to the federal government. It's no different than if you didn't become independent. It's just a debt
00:41:16.040owed to them. That's kind of between you and them because it's a private RRSP. Now pension funds
00:41:21.460are different. And again, that's something that's owed to the person who's eligible to get that
00:41:27.820pension. So if some of the people saying the federal government will cut off your pension
00:41:32.780payments if you become independent, well, I don't think they will. I think they're lying. I think
00:41:38.000they're fear-mongering? On that whole hypothetical assuming we get to a yes vote, it means negotiations
00:41:45.580begin. And one of those negotiations, they're going to want Alberta to take a piece of the debt.
00:41:52.060And if they expect us to take a piece of the debt, part of the negotiations as per the Supreme Court
00:41:57.180ruling in the Clarity Act has to be in good faith. And if you cut off Albertans who are entitled to
00:42:02.200a pension payment because of a yes vote, you're not negotiating in good faith. So we'll tell you
00:42:06.680guys to take your debt and stick it up somewhere dark because we can afford to cover the pension
00:42:11.300obligations for Albertans anyways if we're out, especially if we don't take on that debt. So
00:42:16.180that's kind of how the back and forth negotiations would go. The pension payments will continue to
00:42:23.480Alberta seniors and it's worth talking about because it's very important because people are
00:42:26.820worried. A crappy pension plan is better than no pension plan and people are concerned. It's
00:42:36.400sad that we have so many Albertans that are one pension payment away from perhaps insolvency or
00:42:41.360having a really hard time because it's only 800, 900, 1200 a month at the top. And that kind of
00:42:47.000shows you, you worked a whole lifetime and that's what you get for it in the end. So that's why we
00:42:50.960do want to move towards a provincial one. But as advocates for independence, you always have to
00:42:54.360make very clear for people that their RRSP will be safe. Look, you can move to Germany and retire
00:42:59.500there. You will still get your CPP payment. Those things move with you. They are transferable.
00:43:04.020The thing I would worry about, and we've got to be realistic with some people with concerns and things, is that with a yes vote in independence, the dollar will take a tumble for a bit.