Western Standard - Angry white militant separatists armed to the teeth!

00:00:00.000 Good day, welcome to the Cory

00:00:29.740 Morgan show on a nice chilly day coming out of Calgary live moving towards the holiday season

00:00:35.840 to see somebody's went and stuck little snowflakes on the glass and the window behind me in the

00:00:39.940 studio here so we're looking all festive like uh so the politics haven't stopped despite the

00:00:45.360 holidays approaching lots going on provincially federally lots of stuff to rant about which I

00:00:50.500 will in a moment the show is live for those tuning in so hey use that comment scroll send questions

00:00:55.500 my way uh to each other just try to remain somewhat civil we can always fight on x later on I got a

00:01:01.600 guest coming on it's going to be a great chat his name's uh Rob Louie and he runs an advocacy group

00:01:06.800 pushing for uh accountability on the you know leadership among indigenous bands and uh yeah

00:01:13.360 it's quite a task he's taken on but it's appreciated because they really need it so uh we see Wayne

00:01:18.100 there saying uh you're supposed to get 12 inches of snow in Billy's so there things can be worse

00:01:23.620 enjoy that down there all right so let's get on to what I'm going to get on about I made the title

00:01:29.220 nice and non-inflammatory today about angry white militant separatists armed to the teeth so I mean

00:01:34.540 normally you know usually the best course of action when it comes to uh anything with disgraced

00:01:39.320 former Redford era MLA Thomas Lukasik is just to ignore him unfortunately we have to pay attention

00:01:45.480 to him now he's gone from being a vain ineffective has-been desperately seeking it seeking attention

00:01:51.120 to being a dangerously irresponsible voice trying to inflame division among Albertans

00:01:56.020 so in an opinion piece written by Donna Kennedy Glanz of the National Post Lukasik's quoted making

00:02:02.400 statements about Alberta independent supporters which could cause some irreparable rifts across

00:02:07.440 the country and not only that but Lukasik's apparently been taking this uninformed pap before

00:02:12.080 the Liberal government and if they take his inflammatory rambling seriously they could make moves

00:02:16.600 against Alberta based on a perceived threat to national security so let's break down Lukasik's

00:02:21.440 words he described Albertan independent supporters and this is his words as a very small group of angry

00:02:27.740 militant men armed to their teeth well to begin with support for independence in Alberta is polling

00:02:34.060 consistently around 30 percent so that's one and a half million people and growing to dismiss that

00:02:38.220 as being very small is insulting and dead wrong and they're hardly all men of course either how dare 0.76

00:02:44.200 Mr. Thomas misgender so many people more disturbing though is his claim that independent supporters

00:02:49.000 are armed to the teeth I mean yeah lots of Albertans responsibly own firearms but they don't do so you

00:02:54.640 know disproportionately to the rest of the country in fact Albertans are fourth in Canada for firearms per

00:02:59.320 capita when compared to other provinces and territories Canada itself is the seventh most armed civilian

00:03:04.480 population on the planet though the Liberals don't like to be reminded of that so why is Lukasik

00:03:08.860 saying we're armed to the teeth well Lukasik always used the word militant he's trying to make the

00:03:13.800 case that an armed insurrection is building up within the province of Alberta I mean the claim

00:03:18.440 is laughable but it has to be taken seriously because this is what Lukasik apparently has been

00:03:24.120 telling Prime Minister Carney's government in meetings Thomas claims to have attended this is his words

00:03:29.320 Lukasik said I met with Prime Minister the Prime Minister's office and with the Federal Caucus and with

00:03:34.520 most of the Senate last week and he asserts he's going to be heading out east to meet with the

00:03:38.400 government again next week now he says he's warned the government that a growing independent movement

00:03:43.160 presents a national security issue and here's his words again here are issues that need to be dealt

00:03:48.760 with immediately because we can't have a segment of the population that is angry what does he mean

00:03:54.200 having the federal government deal with this issue when making the case that there's a national security

00:03:59.640 issue with an armed insurrection building up and that the government is dealing with it must deal

00:04:04.360 with it stands to reason he's asking for the federal government to intervene within Alberta possibly a

00:04:08.600 force this is a dangerous road to go on to say the least Alberta's independence movement has been

00:04:12.600 nothing but peaceful there's no better way though to make a peaceful situation take it and make it

00:04:17.400 tense than bring a military presence into an area and try and stifle political organization of course

00:04:23.000 Lukasik had to play the race card too he said in any country you can't have a large cohort of angry

00:04:28.040 white men what's he proposing here is a certain tipping point of white men allowed to take part in

00:04:33.960 politics when he's advising the federal government that they apparently can't allow this what exactly does he

00:04:39.720 think they're supposed to do and step in the independence movement is much more diverse than

00:04:43.640 Lukasik is painting it of course but does Ottawa know that Lukasik's bending the ears of the

00:04:48.600 Laurentian elites within Carney's government they rarely venture west of Thunder Bay to slum it with

00:04:53.000 the unwashed western Canadians their version of is of a province uh vision is of a province populated by

00:04:59.960 living caricatures of Yosemite Sam running around firing six guns into the air while women are chained in the

00:05:05.160 kitchens in modest Amish style dresses and actually Thomas went after religion too but he didn't use

00:05:10.280 Amish he said the independence movement here's his words again sort of evangelical Mormon oil and gas

00:05:16.200 industry flavor to it chose carefully as only about 0.1 percent of Ontarians identify as Mormons that way

00:05:23.080 he'll be unchecked as he implies the independence movement may be controlled by some shadowy strange

00:05:27.640 religious sect that nobody out there is familiar with oil and gas types are apparently a danger to be 1.00

00:05:32.920 countered as well one could hope that the powers that be in Ottawa dismiss Lukasik as the crank that

00:05:38.280 he is if they take him seriously though some actions could come from Ottawa that may antagonize

00:05:43.240 this peaceful movement into creating the kind of anger he claims is there and that's likely his

00:05:47.960 intent he wants to provoke disorder to justify government intervention if Lukasik truly wanted

00:05:53.880 to fight the Alberta independence movement he would be speaking to Albertans rather than in Ottawa

00:05:57.880 wouldn't he he understands though that Albertans at large still have no use for him

00:06:02.040 and he's hoping to find political favor in the east if anything his endorsement of federalism would

00:06:06.040 increase Albertans support for independence his self-serving political game though guys it is 0.84

00:06:11.400 dangerous very dangerous and yeah if anything's got to be countered it's that crazed nutcase going to 0.95

00:06:16.520 Ottawa and claiming to speak on our behalf all right that's what's got me going today how's it going

00:06:21.400 here good you're buffering badly that's what i'm seeing on the comments sorry guys i don't know

00:06:25.080 what's bad internet going on i guess uh there's not much i can do about that would yell it tell us maybe

00:06:29.800 derek didn't pay the bill that could be well then we wouldn't be on at all yes that's a good point

00:06:33.800 so top of the season to you you got you got your christmas shopping done oh i don't really do much

00:06:38.680 for christmas shopping i'm cheap bugger when it comes to that oh yes that's right yes well my kids

00:06:43.400 are at the age now where they just can't they just get cash yeah so let's see that's the easiest way

00:06:48.600 nobody's ever bothered with that got the grandson's first christmas so that would be nice

00:06:52.920 so yeah we're going into the deep chill tomorrow yes minus 20 plus yeah you've got a river flowing

00:07:00.840 through your your acreage your your compound rebound on it yeah does it uh does it freeze over

00:07:06.120 can you go skating it does freeze over i don't know about skating on it we have a rink nearby though

00:07:11.240 if i went skating it's a sad sad sight that i am not a skater oh well well as you said it's the

00:07:18.040 news isn't stopping just because it's getting uh christmas time the uh the recall train is going on

00:07:24.040 and uh three more recalls have been certified including the premier uh daniel smith so i think

00:07:29.400 that brings 18 20. is it 29 i just saw another update oh it's just they're happening as i've been

00:07:34.920 in here yeah so i guess that would be 19 ucp and one ndp yeah so yeah well then you know and i know that

00:07:41.240 none of them will amount to anything no the only question is whether they're going to let these

00:07:45.160 guys run around and waste their time trying to get signatures in this weather to invoke recalls

00:07:50.120 that won't happen or if finally the government's just going to come in and shut down the process

00:07:53.880 which is a shame because you know it has some merit potentially but uh the unions have decided we

00:07:57.800 shouldn't have it yeah not the way it's being used now uh you remember a comedian ben bankus was in

00:08:03.480 town recently and he had his show cancelled and he had to find another venue well the same thing has

00:08:08.920 happened to him in ontario uh sue saint marie facility has cancelled him and we've got an exclusive

00:08:14.600 interview uh with the man himself on on what he plans to do next uh peter guthrie mla for airdrie

00:08:24.520 uh former ucp mla until he was given the boot for complaining over the uh the uh procurement scandal

00:08:31.640 he is the new leader of the alberta party so the alberta party has a seat in the legislature now corey

00:08:37.640 well that's how they typically get seats in the legislature for till the next election till the next

00:08:42.840 election and then they're dealt with uh bill nine passed in the wee wee hours of this morning uh

00:08:48.680 that's the bill that uh uh ucp are using the notwithstanding clause to get through

00:08:54.040 it uh bans uh bans trans from women's sport it uh provides uh parents have to be told if their kids

00:09:02.440 changing a pronoun at school and it bans uh gender or surgery on uh on children under 18. i've got a

00:09:10.840 teacher in edmonton corey and i'm going to look at this school just so i don't mispronounce it it's

00:09:15.960 hill we hemden school he has been charged with multiple counts of child exploitation for having a

00:09:22.920 two-year online uh conversation with a student that that he's got under there and the creepy thing is

00:09:30.360 it's uh it's a grade kindergarten to grade nine school so it could have started when the poor kid was

00:09:36.760 in grade seven so that's not a good situation uh bc conservative mla carrilyn finley has become the

00:09:45.400 first to throw her hat into the ring to replace hosted leader john rustad and that's going to be 1.00

00:09:51.320 a fascinating race it will you know they've really got to figure out who they are and this race is

00:09:56.040 going to exactly rumors that aaron gunn is going to go for it and you know what it wouldn't surprise me

00:10:01.720 to see mr rustad himself uh throw his hat into the ring well he certainly didn't want to let go

00:10:06.760 of the job no uh if he could win it that way i guess you know shut them up yeah it would certainly

00:10:12.280 make it interesting i thought about you uh when i we did this story this morning and the headline is

00:10:17.800 bah humbug and angus reed poll shows a significant number of canadians are struggling this this

00:10:24.360 christmas season and uh and are having trouble and uh this will come as a shocker to you cory the

00:10:31.560 deputy head of the department of industry admitted he lied lied when he uh told mps about the uh the

00:10:39.560 15 billion dollar stelantis deal uh for a battery factory that will never be built lied cory imagine

00:10:46.680 that a federal official lying unheard of on well admitting it yeah well i guess maybe that's a sign too

00:10:52.440 that you know they don't face any consequences oh no either so no and he'll get his christmas bonus

00:10:57.160 on friday and go home very happy some stelantis people are pretty happy too just uh yeah it's just

00:11:02.920 us who have to pay the bills yeah those 4 000 people who were laid off not so happy no well that's on the

00:11:09.560 go and then federally uh the house of commons uh there's been a lot of posturing with uh pipelines oh

00:11:16.200 pipelines it was it was a uh attempt by the uh the poly of uh tories to embarrass the government

00:11:23.080 basically yeah they know where to put into motion do you support pipelines liberals said they're not

00:11:27.880 going to support it because of a b and c poly of then amends the uh the motion to include a b and c

00:11:35.480 and the liberals still vote against it so uh it's uh it's sort of a make believe it's a man-made

00:11:43.720 distraction elementary pissing that yeah exactly what it is so and it takes the building of a

00:11:49.800 pipeline in alberta zero steps forward or backwards i guess yeah nothing's changed i think those we

00:11:56.680 speculate on whether they have any intent whatsoever getting that pipeline gun or not but they have no

00:12:01.160 more or less of it today than they did yesterday exactly all right well it gives us stuff to watch

00:12:05.800 anyway so as we do march towards the closure of those legislatures in parliament and the christmas

00:12:11.400 season yeah we'll report on some bright stuff next week uh speaking of which next uh next friday i

00:12:16.440 leave so wednesday will be the uh last time you can give me the gift oh oh yeah that's why you're

00:12:23.480 asking about whether i've been shopping yes it's just as you know such a specialized store i'll have to

00:12:28.200 look harder to find exactly what you know if you got some leftover honey i'm sure my mom will take it

00:12:32.040 i'm certain i could find some of that there you go we're set right on thanks dave you bet i'll talk to

00:12:37.400 you after the show all right that is our news editor dave nailer you'll get another dose of him

00:12:42.280 today if you're watching the pipeline actually this evening he's going to be sitting on with myself and

00:12:47.400 nigel and we'll break down a few more of the issues and chat about those things and yeah the the

00:12:52.680 parliamentary games the politics it's kind of fun to watch for wonky folks like me sometimes but as dave

00:12:59.480 said it's not making a difference really uh it corners them i guess it drives home the reality

00:13:08.200 that this memorandum of understanding this thing about a pipeline look if carney wants to get it

00:13:14.680 done he has to say it he actually has to come out and say we're doing it and he won't whenever he's

00:13:20.760 cornered on it he utters a bunch of weasel words and then it goes and runs away and hides when asked in

00:13:26.280 parliament whether you guys support this thing they find excuses and won't vote for it look when

00:13:32.680 a government really wants to get things done we've seen that they do it they just do it they'll find

00:13:37.960 a way they will fast track things they will negotiate things in a hurry they won't put out a big long

00:13:43.640 piece of paper and have a signing and say it's going to lead to something because it won't they're

00:13:48.040 kicking the can down the road we've seen this many many times what's quite surprising is that

00:13:54.360 premier smith is taking part in the game uh i guess she's got to try and remain optimistic and

00:13:59.240 think that something can actually come about from this you don't want to dismiss things out of hand

00:14:03.400 but it's looking pretty darn bleak as far as that goes we'll see we'll see so uh speaking of uh i

00:14:12.680 guess political accountability and games and so on uh for people not familiar with politics on the

00:14:18.840 reserves in canada it is a special sort of place uh they're very tight uh uh communities and they're

00:14:25.560 very tight races and unfortunately there's often been challenges with accountability and my next guest

00:14:30.680 robert louis has been working hard and helping represent indigenous band members seeking

00:14:37.000 accountability from their band leadership in a number of areas whether it's in elections or band

00:14:41.560 governance and things like that and he's running a group called band members alliance and advocacy

00:14:47.000 association of canada so let's bring mr louis on and uh see what he's been getting up to

00:14:53.480 uh let's see there we go oh rob how you doing good good morning cory yeah i appreciate you coming

00:15:01.320 in you're down in the uh east kootenays i believe aren't you i am i am i'm rob louis i'm the founder

00:15:09.240 and president of the band members alliance and advocacy association of canada it's quite a mouthful but

00:15:15.640 so we use the acronym uh be mac yeah so uh i guess you know i'll start maybe just with a bit of your

00:15:22.760 own history uh what led to you becoming an advocate for for this sort of thing great uh well if i were

00:15:30.440 to uh rewind the tape i was um one of the first uh band members to graduate from high school uh way back

00:15:38.440 in 1990 uh i think there was like three or four of us out of a generation of about 30. uh and i went

00:15:45.400 on to pursue uh post-secondary studies uh in other words i got off the res i went to the university of

00:15:51.800 victoria university of british columbia and york university respectively so i do hold a bachelor's

00:15:58.600 of political science degree a law degree and a master's in law degree specializing in constitutional law

00:16:03.880 okay and you took that uh you know education that hard work and and uh you're bringing it

00:16:11.480 forth to advocate on behalf of band members a particular episode brought you i guess into that

00:16:16.120 rather than say just uh going into divorce law or suing people for car accidents with easy money

00:16:22.440 right right so i was uh once a uh a legal practitioner i did practice um way back when at a criminal defense

00:16:30.200 firm um and then uh you know i'm also uh quite open in a general way about my being a recovering

00:16:36.840 alcoholic so i do intend on reapplying to the law society of british columbia in the new year

00:16:42.280 uh to gain my license again and uh that will uh certainly up the game but in the meantime for the

00:16:48.840 last six years i have been uh shall we say suing chiefs that have sticky fingers and are not above

00:16:56.680 board with their uh band members yeah so this has been kind of a you know almost an unforeseen

00:17:03.160 consequence i would think i mean the in the older days a long time ago this the situation was very

00:17:09.320 patronizing bands kind of were managed from outside the government really didn't allow bands to do much

00:17:14.600 on their own but they flipped over to a concept of self-government saying you know we want to let bands

00:17:19.160 manage their own affairs and take care of things but it seems it's led to a lack of oversight or

00:17:24.520 accountability with the funding so unfortunately if you get leadership that's unprincipled it can

00:17:30.360 become very difficult to track whether or not they've been properly managing resources

00:17:35.480 yes and i did catch the tail end of your uh previous um a guest and he mentioned you know federal

00:17:41.960 officials uh stealing money and uh awarding themselves christmas bonuses i thought only chiefs

00:17:47.640 did that but i guess that happens in the uh the mainstream too um yeah so uh you know it happens

00:17:54.440 in politics fair enough uh well in the last six years um since bmack was registered as a federal

00:18:03.480 non-profit society and with the uh team of different lawyers and law firms from british columbia alberta

00:18:09.960 saskatchewan and ontario uh i have come to know that i think it's fair to say that it's pretty evenly

00:18:16.440 split when when it comes to uh band uh integrity and band council accountability and what i mean by

00:18:23.480 that is there are a lot of good first nations out there that are doing the right thing but i would

00:18:27.960 say the other half um are not and it's those uh chiefs that we are uh looking to hold accountable uh we

00:18:36.440 are right now in uh four lawsuits and with the most recent one uh coming in the pakani uh nation uh down by

00:18:45.160 brock in alberta now that one isn't uh so much a financial matter but it's a case where we have a

00:18:50.520 female uh elected leader who was wrongfully removed from the council simply because she started asking

00:18:56.760 questions of the chief and her fellow councillors of their spending of bad money so not only did they

00:19:01.880 suspend her and then stripped her of her salary which effectively removed her um but they were

00:19:07.400 supposed to have a hearing on this and we've been waiting for it or she's been waiting for a year on 0.94

00:19:11.320 this so she finally reached out to us we got her lawyered up and i'm doing the prep work with her

00:19:16.360 and we're going to be filing the federal court next week uh first of all to get her money back her back 0.98

00:19:21.320 pay and then to uh you know challenge this it's really a ridiculous uh process that they have yeah

00:19:29.000 well well that would be i guess you could say the equivalent of a mayor in a city kicking out a council

00:19:35.320 member that they don't uh agree with we mechanisms outside of the reserve that keeps that from

00:19:41.080 happening i mean they can fight with each other and do what they like but the mayor doesn't have the

00:19:44.280 authority to remove somebody uh what sort of oversight i mean in our case we could go to

00:19:51.400 elections alberta or bc you know elections bc or things like that but what is the authority when it

00:19:56.040 comes to band management well yeah you hit it right on the head and um you know you did mention that

00:20:02.760 a lot of the uh reserves are tight-knit that's true but we don't live in the harmony hut either so

00:20:08.680 when there is a band member that you know or band members uh that are calling for accountability and

00:20:14.520 transparency and so far as like we don't even we can't even see the friggin audit you know that's a

00:20:20.440 problem now let me put it this way to you uh corey if um if the prime minister or the premier or even

00:20:26.520 the mayor um suddenly rescinded a financial law that would govern or oversee uh elected officials

00:20:35.000 spending you know there's uh non-profits and organizations and law firms that will be lining

00:20:39.640 up around the corner to file against the premier or the prime minister or the mayor well in canada

00:20:45.080 there is no such organizations other than bmac that's able to do that so our the demand far exceeds

00:20:51.240 the capacity that we have right now so uh i just want to say just on that note too one last thing

00:20:57.400 corey is that we're actually in a case right now that was just heard in calgary federal court last

00:21:03.160 week a bc case uh where the chief and council received uh 31 million dollars on behalf of the

00:21:10.360 band and remind you this is a really small band of about 300 members uh at the lower kootenay indian

00:21:15.640 band in creston british columbia um they received 31 million dollars and instead of announcing it to

00:21:21.880 the members uh they went in camera uh the bank council did and rescinded in other words cancelled

00:21:28.360 out the financial administration law that was governing this ban for the last decade so you

00:21:33.480 know go figure you get a whack of money and suddenly why don't you not tell the members people that you

00:21:38.520 serve but you're suddenly uh operating in a legal vacuum yeah and and it it takes so much fighting

00:21:46.520 i mean a case that isn't one you've been working on i believe but we saw recently just since it came up

00:21:50.760 in the news was that frog lake uh uh reserve up there with uh hans mccarty and i mean they were

00:21:56.520 managing 102 million dollars since uh 2013 and messed it down all the way to nine million dollars but they

00:22:03.400 won't tell anybody what they spent it on and they won't disclose to the members what happened with it

00:22:07.240 uh he had to go to a battle to do this and you really shouldn't have to well hans mccarthy is a

00:22:13.720 friend of mine he did reach out to me and we did help him initially um and uh the canadian taxpayers

00:22:19.000 federation took over from there to help hans and yeah that was uh one of the most egregious cases i've

00:22:25.320 seen where yeah there's a hundred and uh initially 120 million but they can only account for 102 million

00:22:32.040 and yeah and then it dwindles down to like 17 million over 10 years and what has mccarthy this

00:22:37.560 is how what the federal government i think are complicit in the uh the i just call it financial hanky

00:22:43.240 panky going on a lot of the reserves is because has mccarthy needed the band council resolutions the

00:22:49.560 paperwork on how that money was taken from the feds and given to the band council but the feds would not

00:22:59.160 cough up or consent to releasing any information unless the chief and council consented so this

00:23:05.080 was the case where you know who the wrongdoer is you know what's wrong and the crimes that are well

00:23:10.040 financial crimes really that are being committed but you have to ask the perpetrator permission for

00:23:16.520 you know to move this ahead and that's uh i'm glad the federal court uh sided with the banner saying yeah

00:23:22.120 you have the right to these documents and the feds have to cough it up now

00:23:25.560 yeah well so your accountability goes a little farther than just in the band councils and such

00:23:32.600 i just noticed on your website the things that you help represent band members with is also on police

00:23:37.320 misconduct and abuse cases uh it was a specific case that has led to having that uh listed on your uh

00:23:43.640 services uh yeah so we have like essentially four core areas um that case there so uh we did receive a

00:23:52.280 call for help about a year ago from a blackfoot uh family where um an individual was shot um by the

00:24:01.080 rcmp in grand forks british columbia and um we basically were claimed or this family was claiming

00:24:09.080 that this was a wrongful shooting and uh negligence so uh we're grateful to have uh some law firms that

00:24:15.800 specialize in suing the police um one being murphy batista law firm out of vancouver um and so murphy

00:24:23.640 batista is also doing a class action uh against the rcmp for any abuse from i believe 1955 onwards so

00:24:32.200 if indigenous people that were arrested in the drunk tank you know holding cells if they were beat up or

00:24:37.800 abused would qualify as a class member for this um class action against rcmp so we we do help with those

00:24:45.240 kind of cases um and then yeah if there's you know aboriginal men or women getting beat up by the cops

00:24:51.560 you know those days hopefully be coming to an end um with our help but uh again we know that it

00:24:57.560 happens it's just a matter of more getting more capacity to help these people so going beyond the

00:25:04.040 the media cases which is appreciated uh what has to be done so that your services won't be needed like

00:25:11.640 what are the you know we don't want to say turn the clock back and take away all form of self-government

00:25:17.240 or being able to manage their own affairs on the reserves but at the same time it seems that we

00:25:21.640 need some sort of outside oversight to make sure that things are being managed uh well from the outside

00:25:26.200 too how can that balance be found yeah no good question cory uh but nothing makes me shudder more

00:25:33.160 when i hear that the word self-government um in my personal and professional experience um that

00:25:39.480 hasn't been a good news um for a lot of band members um because the the chief and council um

00:25:46.840 really don't have any uh impetus to follow the law unless a band member challenges them so what we

00:25:55.720 need to do uh first of all is i think uh folks uh i think should get behind you know an organization

00:26:02.600 like vmac we are the only game in town right now and i hope that we can expand so our membership is

00:26:08.680 open to the general public um if anyone wants to become a member but also and i think equally important

00:26:14.440 uh cory that there needs to be a a national ombudsperson specifically for first nations people

00:26:22.840 or an auditor general um to help with this uh the financial accountability and oversight that you speak of

00:26:29.080 because right now the there is good legislation on the books it's called the first nation financial

00:26:34.600 transparency act now stephen harper the conservative government back in 2012 enacted that when justin

00:26:42.920 trudeau came in a few years later he said well we're not going to uh enforce it like stephen harper

00:26:48.840 did and we're going to leave it to band members to uh to uh you know to use it and pay out of their own

00:26:54.200 pocket uh if they want to use the financial transparency act and we say that's just morally and legally

00:26:59.000 wrong so um yeah we need to have um some sort of national um ombudsperson in place yeah well and

00:27:07.960 as you put it out i mean if we see it unfortunately everywhere it's a it's a an unfortunate aspect of

00:27:13.400 human nature whether you know it's not just a band thing we we hear about as you said the start of this

00:27:18.600 you know with solantis and so on there's politicians unfortunately and some bureaucrats lining their

00:27:22.920 pockets sometimes they're caught sometimes they're not but if there's no means of accountability no

00:27:29.480 means of oversight it's almost i mean it's just inviting these sorts of problems well exactly exactly

00:27:36.520 that and i think the difference is that there's a lot more uh regulatory schemes um uh and uh

00:27:44.120 organizations in the mainstream to hold elected officials accountable at the municipal provincial and

00:27:49.720 federal level there's nothing whatsoever in place for first nations at the uh indigenous governance

00:27:55.960 level what about whistleblower protection i i i if uh you know i won't go into that rabbit hole of a

00:28:02.120 separate issue i'm having with the six second reserve for example but there's some people from in the

00:28:06.040 the reserve have been communicating with me uh which is great and they're sharing things but they're

00:28:10.520 afraid to come forward in person because they don't want to bring the wrath of the band leadership down

00:28:14.840 upon themselves and there's no protections for people if they speak out about the band management

00:28:20.120 uh is there a way we could perhaps you know protect people who have come out to speak

00:28:26.040 yeah no that another good question uh corey whether there is or isn't uh like legislation to uh

00:28:33.080 protect whistleblowers the inherent problem is that a lot of the reserves that including six ago and i'll go

00:28:39.240 so far to say um members live in a such a silo that um to use the analogy of you know the mafia you know

00:28:49.080 if they speak out they get whacked and by that um in the first nations context that means like

00:28:54.280 you will not receive any band services uh you won't even get firewood for example these are cases that

00:28:59.160 i've seen first first and um or if you work at the band office um the uh the worst case is that you're

00:29:06.760 fired uh without procedural fairness the best case is well they won't find your paycheck on time you'll

00:29:13.080 have to wait the next week you know you have to wait around for a payday so that's um that's really

00:29:19.080 the the difference that uh even with legislation corey um the problems run deeper than than that it's uh

00:29:26.120 it's systemic yeah well that's why it's it's important to have people like you you know there to

00:29:30.760 stand up for residents and citizens because they don't necessarily know how to play the legal or

00:29:34.520 political game unfortunately sometimes it's a game uh so before i let you go you know one more

00:29:39.240 time then with people whether they want to you know look about more about your organization or

00:29:43.480 seeking your help or want to support it where can they find you yeah corey so again it's um b mac is

00:29:50.760 the acronym b-m-a-a-a-c.org there's three a's in there if you type in two a's b-m-a-a you're going to go to

00:29:58.920 the black men's association of america so make sure folks type in three a's b-m-a-a-a-c.org and

00:30:05.880 if you want to become a member it's all on there and thank you kindly for having me corey well i

00:30:10.840 appreciate you coming on to talk to us today and the work you're doing so uh thank you and uh i hope

00:30:15.640 we can speak again maybe some of your uh cases are getting settled okay and with that i wish you a

00:30:22.440 good day and uh to your audience um as well take care great thanks so yeah folks just you know one

00:30:29.880 more time uh so that's the band members alliance and advocacy association of canada or again if you

00:30:35.640 search out robert robert louis you'll find those sorts of things and and this this is what i like to

00:30:41.000 see more of rather than talking about more legislation more bureaucrats more uh you know

00:30:49.560 interference with people is maybe giving citizens more mechanisms to be able to speak up for

00:30:54.680 themselves as rob was saying the situation is different on the reserve you're in a community

00:30:59.640 where you are quite controlled in this in many senses by a band council and chief and and if you

00:31:05.480 rock the boat too much it can bring consequences that we we don't have to deal with off reserve we

00:31:10.280 don't understand it's not the same out here and uh when you've got the reserve sometimes being the sole

00:31:15.880 sort of source of employment or as you said or if you're on one where the the reserve manages

00:31:20.200 delivering your firewood they might sound like petty things but if you're relying on firewood to heat

00:31:24.840 your house it's a pretty big problem when suddenly you're not getting it so having some advocates come

00:31:30.840 up and speak like that is really really important and it's it's good to see uh rob doing these sorts of

00:31:36.680 things you know consider supporting these guys because the answer isn't always more government it's

00:31:40.440 sometimes just empowering the people on the ground more so they can stand up to government and you

00:31:44.680 got to remember band and council the council and chief are actually government it's just another

00:31:48.680 level of it so adding another overseer might not be the the way to but there does have to as he

00:31:54.920 brought up it was just an invitation for problems when trudeau turned back and and stopped the

00:32:01.320 financial oversight that steven hartford brought in and it's it's not a racial thing every place every

00:32:08.040 business on reserve or off reserve every level of government on reserve off reserve has to have some

00:32:13.080 kind of oversight i mean you you've got to have some third party look and say okay these books are

00:32:17.960 good these expenditures are correct these actions are right it's not being patronizing it's not being

00:32:23.880 overbearing it's being applying common sense and we don't see that a lot unfortunately so uh you know

00:32:31.320 check them out guys uh there's there's just lots to go and i i do believe you know and you've heard me on

00:32:36.920 the show many times so it's one of my bigger areas our biggest policy failures are our most embarrassing

00:32:41.480 policy failures is the whole indigenous system in general where we've got all of these people in in 1.00

00:32:47.560 in such um difficult circumstances on reserves all over the country because of poor management sometimes

00:32:55.000 there's well meaning with the policies they brought in sometimes it wasn't but it's it's just turned into

00:32:58.760 a unfortunately a mess and it's just really arming people all around so yeah speaking of crazy

00:33:03.800 politics then let's get back a little more closer to home peter guthrie uh dave mentioned him he's the

00:33:08.840 mla for up in uh erdry area he left uh he the the party sometime back as dave said over a beef over

00:33:17.320 the healthcare thing with premier smith but he's been just kind of a chronic oppositional type on

00:33:22.120 the sidelines ever since him and another mla from up in slave lake and now they've decided they're 0.99

00:33:27.080 taking over the alberta party and i i gotta laugh about this they wanted to bring about the name again

00:33:33.080 of progressive conservatives so they wanted to resurrect the allison redford party that albertans

00:33:38.600 you know were sick and tired of but he can't get the name now there's some political maneuvering on

00:33:43.800 the part of the the united conservative party to stop that and everything else but now he's taken

00:33:49.400 over the alberta party the alberta party has turned itself kind of into a receptacle for embittered

00:33:54.840 politicians that are on the uh that's you know there's one time they elected a member they actually

00:33:59.960 elected one other times they've had members on and off throughout the years but as soon as an

00:34:04.440 election comes around they just get obliterated they you watch though i'm gonna make my prediction

00:34:09.880 for legacy media because they love the alberta party because the alberta party is just the liberal

00:34:14.360 party with a coat of paint on it and because the liberals can't win in alberta under the name liberal

00:34:19.800 and they are going to pump the tires of peter guthrie's little alberta party because they do that

00:34:25.480 every time they do that every election with every new leader of the alberta party just comes and goes and

00:34:29.160 fails the legacy media will give them all sorts of interviews all sorts of oxygen all sorts of

00:34:35.240 time hoping to turn them into something and then they'll just get wiped out in the election but

00:34:39.320 whatever that's democracy mr guthrie certainly has the means to do it but politically organizing wise

00:34:45.240 we'll see i just saw him post on x before the show started and he said something like he's still

00:34:51.480 calling it the pc movement of alberta so he's trying to call it both progressive conservative and alberta

00:34:56.760 party he's just going to confuse things for himself and make it difficult uh let's get some divisive

00:35:03.880 politics things have been going on in the independence movement in alberta because it's

00:35:06.840 really been getting inflamed it's really been moving along uh the the reality that if anything's

00:35:13.560 been proven by premier smith now that bill 14 came in for non-albertans people uh uh aware of it

00:35:20.440 it's you know she brought about the the referendum legislation unfortunately

00:35:25.000 they messed up that legislation allowing the electoral officer to punt it into the courts and

00:35:28.760 drag it out to try and have a referendum on independence so now they brought bill 14 said

00:35:35.240 okay we're changing that so that we will control uh you know what which uh keep it from going to the

00:35:41.240 courts being thrown that way basically takes it out of the hands of the chief electoral officer

00:35:45.720 there's going to be a referendum they wouldn't invest this much political capital go into this

00:35:51.720 much grief push this far ahead if they didn't want to see a referendum and some people saying yeah but

00:35:58.040 she's got a smith has to come out and see she wants independence no she doesn't she wasn't elected on 1.00

00:36:02.040 that we've got to stop that stupid talk got to stop that stupid talk if you're an independent supporter 1.00

00:36:08.600 tell the other independent supporters who keep pissing around in the party politics to cut it out 1.00

00:36:13.320 there's going to be a referendum within a year focus on that because there's not enough support

00:36:19.320 to win a referendum right now for independence not even close i don't care what people want to say

00:36:23.480 i speak optimistically of it i'm pushing for it i want that number to change i want to see a yes vote

00:36:28.200 i've never made a secret of that but if you're dedicating all your resources to fighting with each

00:36:33.640 other and fighting with premier smith and just fighting with anybody who comes with an eyesight of you

00:36:38.760 and people i think know which person i'm talking about who represents one of the larger independence

00:36:44.120 groups out there you're wasting a whole bunch of energy that could be dedicated to a referendum

00:36:50.200 and then some of the people who follow each are fighting with each other and wasting more energy

00:36:55.160 that can be dedicated to a referendum just focus on the bloody referendum quit shooting and complaining

00:37:03.800 and fighting with each other as you've got a bigger battle to do guys and it's just getting absurd

00:37:10.680 so uh let's see uh we'll go through some of these other news items oh yeah this is an interesting

00:37:19.960 one you know the president of the national police federation is some of the people are starting to

00:37:24.360 see the quiet part out loud and i'm happy to hear that he said canada's experienced an increase in

00:37:29.960 violent crime in recent years while also noting rising immigration numbers

00:37:35.640 yes now it's not fully blaming every crime on immigrants no don't worry we got plenty of homegrown 0.61

00:37:41.880 criminals and losers who were born here as well as others coming in but there's no doubt when we bring 1.00

00:37:49.400 in mass immigration that's the word that we got to start using correctly anyways mass immigration most 0.96

00:37:55.400 common sense people aren't opposed to all immigration no import immigration when managed properly

00:38:01.160 is a benefit to all of us benefit to all of us but we you have to manage it you have to say where do

00:38:07.880 we need people what categories of people do we need how many people can this area absorb properly so

00:38:15.960 everybody is settled things like that we haven't been doing that at all trudeau just opened the flood

00:38:20.680 gates it's been a decade of mass immigration and crime is one of the areas it's been a consequence of 1.00

00:38:27.320 course the other one is our health care has been overwhelmed our housing was overwhelmed

00:38:31.000 our schools were overwhelmed this didn't take a political scientist to figure out you've got this

00:38:35.240 many services and you're bringing this much demand you're going to overwhelm it and it's overwhelming

00:38:41.160 our prison and police services as well but the thing that's different right now is seeing some

00:38:47.000 senior officials daring to utter it because of course you're always afraid to question immigration

00:38:51.800 because you're gonna get called the r word you know that's coming along so thomas lukasic i mean

00:38:56.040 it's just white guys in albert that are upset right but that's the way it goes they're losing that fear

00:39:01.400 because we just have to say it now you know it's it's undeniable it's problematic it's uh out of

00:39:09.640 control and uh you know admitting problem is the first step in moving towards a solution

00:39:15.480 i don't think canada as a whole is going to solve it but alberta sure can you know i'm going to talk a

00:39:21.240 little bit something i saw recently uh when we're talking about courts supreme court all of that which

00:39:26.760 again we have our judges writing our laws and so essentially activist judges we've got some

00:39:30.680 serious problems in canada with our levels of government i talk about switzerland often because

00:39:35.400 i like their model as decentralized government very uh disempowered federal government with a more of a

00:39:42.680 council that shares terms as president but the other thing is their supreme court it's nothing like

00:39:49.320 ours and it's their judges are elected for six-year terms by the federal assembly so elected people

00:39:57.560 and then elect them not appointed by a single person like we have in canada and then they hear appeals

00:40:03.640 from the cantonal courts administrative rulings but the real neat part is the supreme court can't

00:40:09.000 comment on law put forward by parliament yeah it's not their role you don't have their supreme court

00:40:17.240 overruling or commenting or dealing with the laws that come from parliament they're there for other

00:40:22.200 issues and it says that rule is assumed by the people which acts as a guardian and can repeal any

00:40:27.080 legislation or constitutional change because they have referendum and recall legislation in switzerland

00:40:32.920 i don't know what we call they got referendum legislation very strong referendum legislation

00:40:37.000 they aren't abusing it here as the unions in alberta are you put the power into the people's hands

00:40:43.400 and over there they've taken it out of the courts because that was something interesting too that the

00:40:47.880 temper tantrum that the the judge had the judge who had ruled that an independence referendum in

00:40:54.760 alberta would be unconstitutional because the legislation came along and said well fine whatever

00:41:00.600 but we're gonna hold one anyway and that's more the attitude alberta's gonna have it here we're just 1.00

00:41:03.640 gonna do it i'm not asking just gonna do it i don't care what you think but he was pretty ticked

00:41:10.120 because you know he thought it was his role to decide whether or not we're allowed to have one

00:41:14.280 and it was taken away from him so he just uh shot at things in general you know what you're there to

00:41:17.960 be a judge not to offer political opinion actually i know it's a fine line to talk between the two

00:41:23.640 but uh either way i'm just saying as we start the uh mental deliberations on um

00:41:32.920 what a post-independence system would want to potentially look like i like looking at the

00:41:37.720 swiss and we're moving towards it uh commenter 86 saying the whole westminster system is fundamentally

00:41:42.680 flawed because it promotes winning elections over serving the people in the best way possible yeah it's

00:41:47.400 just uh the westminster system is you know superior to the feudal system that it sort of evolved out

00:41:55.000 of it was better than that but it's not a good modern system that gets back to the whole basis of

00:42:01.240 the independence thing this is a broken system we're swirling the drain the deficits are getting higher

00:42:05.560 the debt we're shutting in our own resources because the leaders are all playing political games rather

00:42:10.120 than actually looking at what is best for the country as a whole and regions are getting shut out of

00:42:16.440 developing themselves it's got to fall apart and it's going to but uh it's just a matter how and

00:42:21.880 when uh with this stuff speaking of quebec you know something i posted on next some independent

00:42:27.800 supporters should be doing and i mean it i mean it politely in a sense and honestly i fully support

00:42:33.560 the full independence of quebec from the federation of canada why not of course i do go for it let us help

00:42:40.200 them and there's a the pq is in position to win a majority government if they can get election for

00:42:47.080 the first time in a long long time and they're doing it on the promise of holding a referendum

00:42:50.440 i wholeheartedly want them to win and i want them to hold a referendum it's going to be a year before

00:42:55.320 they hold election a little less than a year and of course a referendum will take a little longer but

00:42:58.760 boy this country is coming to a head guys we can't save all of it not under this system but we can

00:43:04.680 save parts of it as we go and then uh who knows what the pq wants to do try and fix things over

00:43:09.400 there something that's going to make their job a little easier this just came out quebec's anti

00:43:12.920 corruption squad and yeah there's a busy department in quebec uh is opening an investigation into the

00:43:19.000 quebec liberal party itself and uh uh pablo rodriguez uh said that an investigation is underway

00:43:26.760 you know and he's hoping they'll get to the bottom of it now pablo rodriguez you might remember

00:43:31.160 was part of the trudeau government and he moved over to head the liberals either way those provincial

00:43:35.160 liberals are trying to run against the pq for next year this investigation their ties would appear to

00:43:41.800 be uh you know with corruption going on with them is not going to help them in the election very much

00:43:47.560 so the chances of the pq winning quebec become all the stronger let's keep watching that on top of

00:43:54.600 that you know again canada's mess uh there's another article a growing wave of cargo transport

00:43:59.800 uh truck and trailer theft thefts have been hitting uh canada costing industry and consumers

00:44:04.200 millions of dollars uh you know constantly yes again because our political cowards in ottawa

00:44:10.040 have allowed the teamsters and the longshoremen's union to own the ports and the trucking facilities

00:44:17.960 and we've got organized crime infiltrating those areas we don't check containers we don't track stuff

00:44:23.320 it's not just the smuggling that goes through there but stuff gets targeted for theft as well

00:44:28.120 why because canada is broken those are areas again where federal oversight is supposed to happen

00:44:33.240 but they don't do it they don't do their job they're busy just uh navel gazing here as the

00:44:37.560 commenter said just doing all they can to get reelected and not really looking at what they have

00:44:41.880 to do to run this country it's uh annoying and frightening time in some ways but i'm looking at

00:44:47.560 it with optimism we keep pushing things we can't save it all as i said but we can save part of it

00:44:52.680 and we're moving closer and closer towards it so stop fighting each other look around your own

00:44:58.520 area see what you can do and for you guys who want independence just look at the referendum 0.80

00:45:03.880 don't worry about the jackasses who want to just keep fighting with everybody including 0.86

00:45:07.160 the provincial government they're giving you the mechanism all right guys like i said be sure to 0.97

00:45:11.880 tune into the pipeline tonight it's going to be dave and nigel hannaford myself breaking down a few

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Angry white militant separatists armed to the teeth!

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