Bringing Vulnerable Seniors Homeļ¼ Raquel Dancho On The Need For A National Silver Alert
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Summary
In this episode, I'm joined by Raquel D'Ancho, MP for Kildan and St. Paul, Manitoba, who introduces a bill on establishing a National Silver Alert framework. A Silver Alert is similar to an Amber Alert, but it would be focused on seniors living with cognitive impairments like dementia.
Transcript
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So I'm joined with Raquel D'Ancho, MP for Kildan and St. Paul, Manitoba, who introduced a private
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member's bill on establishing a national silver alert framework. Raquel, can you tell me more
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about what that means? Right. So if you'll allow me, I'll just talk a little bit about the story
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that generated this. It really paints the picture of why this bill is needed in Canada. So a silver
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alert is similar to an amber alert, but it would be focused on seniors living with cognitive
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impairments like dementia. And so in my community, about two and a half years ago, an elderly
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gentleman who was a grandfather, a father, a community member, wandered out of his home in
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the middle of a Winnipeg winter and was never found. And again, this is sort of a suburb like
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any other. It just was, despite an extensive search effort, he was never found and is presumed
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deceased. And the family, as a result of this tragedy, really took up the mantle to champion
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a silver alert. They firmly believe, and I agree with them, that if a silver alert had been in
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place, similar to an amber alert, where perhaps you'd get a notification to your phone if you're
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in that geographic area where he went missing, perhaps he could have been found and saved and
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he'd still be with us today. So that's really the genesis of this and really wanting to optimize
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the technology in the palm of our hand to save the lives of seniors who are incredibly vulnerable
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when they're living with dementia. So thanks for sharing that story, actually. So that explains
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more as to why you are introducing that bill and given your background and where you're based.
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My question is, do we not in any jurisdiction in Canada have anything similar or anything
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appropriate for that kind of case? So right now in some provinces, there are things that they
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call silver alerts but they're very different than amber alerts so right now for example in
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Quebec and Manitoba the silver alert structure is to send out alerts via police websites or police
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social media and so if you're not paying very close attention to these methods of of public
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notice then you wouldn't you wouldn't see this however of course an amber alert the way that
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they're set up right now we receive a text if a child is abducted and so it alerts you right away
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that this has happened so that's sort of the difference between what's in place right now
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that's being called a silver alert versus the current framework for amber alert so this bill
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is looking to close that gap with a federal leadership role while working within provincial
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with the provinces who have jurisdiction for the most part in this area to establish really a
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guideline and a framework across the country to support provinces in initiating something that
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more resembles uh the amber alert uh notification structure so since you're comparing it often let's
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talk about the amber alert how do you view do you view it as an effective system do you believe that
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there's any overreach uh i know a lot of people complain all the time about the sound and the
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fact that it comes without warning um other times people you know argue that sometimes the area and
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range of people that are devices that are being tapped into an alert can sometimes be you know
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a little bit too broad too relevant sometimes so how how do you and how do the consumers view the
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amber alert current currently as it stands i'm glad you brought that up it's a great question
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so the amber alert structure is set up often a child is abducted uh via vehicle and so there's
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often a hundred kilometer radius or more i know i've received amber alerts uh from northwestern
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ontario and we're in winnipeg hundreds of kilometers away from the location so the
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the good thing about a silver alert is often seniors who wander away from home or their care
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home are generally speaking on foot. And so you can geotarget it to just a several kilometer
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radius, four kilometers up to maybe 12 kilometers. I think the data shows that they're generally
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within that limited area. So you're really micro-targeting the cell phone area that you
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would be reaching out to. So that would eliminate a lot of the, you know, why am I getting, if I'm
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in Winnipeg, why am I getting an alert from Regina? That would not happen. If this is implemented how
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we envision it, it would be much more geo-targeted. So that's great, actually, because the technology
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today exists that we can really micro-target within a couple blocks radius, for example,
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in an urban setting. And so that would, from our perspective, eliminate some of that concern with,
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you know, you get amber alerts when you're very far away. That wouldn't be the case here,
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because people are generally on foot when they go missing.
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So we can target it more closely to where they went missing.
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In terms of the technology of delivering the alert itself,
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how do you view the Amber Alert's effectiveness
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and what would you want for your silver alert bill to establish?
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I mean, same kind of sound, same kind of delivery method,
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So we've written the legislation in a way that's pretty,
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that's designed as a framework so it's it's not as prescriptive as some of those things that you
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mentioned what we would envision and how the bill is is drafted is that there would be
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quite extensive consultation with the provinces with law enforcement but also other experts
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experts in for example elderly care dementia care those kinds of things to establish what
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sort of framework it would look like you mentioned like an opt-out framework or the sound of the
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notification. Those would all be things I would imagine that would be discussed by the people who
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have really been on the front lines of managing the safety and security of people with dementia,
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which is particularly the elderly. And so that's where we would look to a lot of expert testimony.
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So I was very keen to have the legislation written in a way that was very much focused on
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expert feedback. I'm not an expert in dementia. I'm not a medical professional, nor am I in law
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enforcement. But I do have an experience as a lawmaker and certainly with this family. And
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my family as well has been touched by dementia. I think everybody knows someone who's been
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touched by dementia. It's a terrible disease. So with that experience, I feel very, very strongly
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that there must be a way that we can establish a framework that works, that is manageable,
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that the public supports. I'm very convinced of that.
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And lastly, do you expect there to be support from other opposition parties and the government
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members on this, given, I mean, the government has a majority today? Do you expect cooperation
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across the, it doesn't sound like a very partisan issue, so do you expect much broad cooperation?
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We have received indications from the Liberal Party, the governing party, that they will be
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supporting the bill to committee, so we hope that they maintain that commitment.
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they again I believe what you've said is correct we've written this in a way and are pursuing this
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in a way that is not political not partisan we don't believe that it is we know that dementia
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is impacting many many people in Canada in fact by 2030 that's likely to be 1 million people in
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Canada suffering with dementia there's over 400 people diagnosed per day and it really is a very
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pressing issue if you if you look at some of the data for example from public safety Canada around
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60% of people living with dementia may go missing at some point in their life. And if they're not
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found within 12 hours, there's a 50% likelihood they'll be found deceased or severely injured.
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And again, like I said, they go missing within a 4 to 12 kilometer radius. So with the technology
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we have, there's no reason that we can't prevent terrible tragedies that have happened
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across the country. If you look at some of the data just from news media, we've seen very tragic
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of cases where a senior with dementia will just wander out of the care home. They somehow got
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around the security systems they have, and they're found in a snowbank a block away, deceased, the
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next morning. So there are things like this that can be prevented. Mr. Moberg, as a last point,
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the gentleman who went missing and has not been found in my community, the search party that
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happened, a woman came to that search party, and she says that, she said that, I think I may have
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saw him the next day, but I wasn't sure if it was him. And I hadn't seen the notification. I just
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saw a man at a local health lab that he happened to go to with his wife, who just seemed a little
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bit confused. And I felt that maybe there was something wrong, but I didn't know to act on it.
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If this lady had received a silver alert to her phone that morning with his description,
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perhaps that would have been enough to underline her gut response that this man needed help.
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at a very in-depth level, we hope, at committee.
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but we're working very hard to get everybody on board.
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I look forward to speaking to you at that later date when committing and everything else starts to push through on your private member's bill.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to speak with me today.
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Yes, thank you, Maleed, for your interest. I really appreciate it.