Western Standard - Budget Vote： The secret Liberal–Conservative coalition？

00:00:00.000 Good day, today is November 19th, 2025.

00:00:28.000 I'm Derek Fulibrand, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:00:33.000 We've got our usual lineup in the Calgary newsroom here.

00:00:36.760 Western Standard, former opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.

00:00:40.940 Here we are.

00:00:41.840 And Western Standard, senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.

00:00:45.340 Always a pleasure.

00:00:46.520 Back by popular demand, we have our new Western Standard Parliament Hill correspondent, William Barclay.

00:00:55.120 Hey, everyone. Great to be back.

00:00:56.360 all right uh well we got some fun stuff from both ottawa and alberta where we're at here

00:01:03.340 um the secret liberal conservative coalition uh i think i'm probably overstating it a little bit

00:01:11.220 when i say that but uh the federal budget passed with i think it was just some the theater around

00:01:18.460 it it passed with the conservatives voting against it but really wanting it to pass so

00:01:23.640 people hiding behind curtains, literally

00:01:25.620 to make sure it was closed, but not

00:01:27.600 too close.

00:01:30.200 So, you know, how the Liberals are

00:01:31.580 now staying in power,

00:01:33.440 strangely, with the support

00:01:35.440 of the Conservatives. We'll talk about that.

00:01:38.680 Alberta's

00:01:39.200 healthcare revolution, the Global Mail reporting,

00:01:42.320 I haven't seen

00:01:43.420 comment from the government yet, but in Alberta,

00:01:45.700 Global Mail reporting

00:01:46.560 that the plan is to

00:01:49.560 allow doctors

00:01:51.520 to practice in both

00:01:53.620 the public and private systems which i think would constitute a pretty big breach of the

00:01:58.600 canada health act which i think is awesome because ottawa has no damned business uh telling doctors

00:02:06.700 what they can do in provinces because health care is under strict provincial jurisdiction

00:02:10.580 uh so that that's big news and the usual suspects their heads are blowing up right now it's glorious

00:02:18.420 to watch. But first, we'll start something also closer to home here in Alberta. The notwithstanding

00:02:26.080 clause was used just the other week to legislate the Alberta Teachers Union back to work. They were

00:02:33.820 being obstinate, just not even negotiating. They were offered massive raises. So that, nope, not

00:02:39.600 good. We're not even talking. It looked like this was a strike. They could have drawn out forever.

00:02:44.800 I think they actually wanted to be legislated back to work.

00:02:47.200 I just don't think they expected the government to invoke the notwithstanding clause to do it.

00:02:51.600 Now we find out that the notwithstanding clause is going to be invoked to protect three pieces of legislation

00:03:02.300 that passed last spring around legislation that involves trans issues,

00:03:08.200 around keeping biological males out of biological female sports,

00:03:12.520 restrictions on stopping people who are minors from transitioning

00:03:20.760 and banning schools from hiding the fact that their child might be using different pronouns

00:03:29.100 and going by a different gender than the one that they were born with

00:03:32.260 and that nature has assigned to them.

00:03:35.100 Those pieces of legislation have already passed in a normal, civilized country.

00:03:41.240 That legislation, Corey, would easily withstand a charter challenge, but in this country, with these judges, with their rather liberal view of the charter, you never really know.

00:03:57.660 It would not be beyond the pale for them to say that, no, it is a violation of your, you know, your equality rights under the Charter to not be allowed to, you know, wrestle against little girls when you're born a man or born a male.

00:04:16.980 So preemptively protecting these pieces of legislation from Charter Challenge, I saw a bunch of weepy people on the CBC.

00:04:26.780 The CBC was so deferential.

00:04:29.540 I mean, you know, you have hostile interviews.

00:04:32.420 You have friendly interviews.

00:04:33.560 I've done friendly interviews.

00:04:35.380 It's fine.

00:04:36.560 But I'm not working for the national broadcaster, as they call themselves, the state broadcaster.

00:04:42.100 Just these, oh, how does this make you feel?

00:04:46.200 You know, they're interviewing some woman who claims that I think her boy is a girl.

00:04:53.740 I don't know their particular circumstances.

00:04:56.720 Mathematically, it's probably just not actually the case.

00:04:59.760 You know, it's a nosering, usual, what is it, reverse Munchausen-looking person.

00:05:10.640 But I can't say, I don't know the details of that case. 1.00

00:05:13.300 But most of these cases, it's bullshit. It's made up. 0.99

00:05:16.420 And they had this weepy interview.

00:05:17.920 The CBC is running the normal propaganda line on this,

00:05:21.360 even though the overwhelming majority of Albertans support this legislation,

00:05:24.920 keeping biological males out of female sports, 0.93

00:05:29.520 stopping minors from transitioning, that kind of thing.

00:05:35.200 But, yeah, it's the usual suspects lining up on it.

00:05:39.200 But, I don't know, Alberta had not used the notwithstanding clause ever

00:05:42.760 until extremely recently, and now we're,

00:05:46.300 well, if there was eight in the chamber, we only got four left.

00:05:48.600 Yeah, they didn't hesitate, and it's not just the CBC.

00:05:51.060 I torment myself with some conventional talk radio

00:05:53.940 in the mornings on the way here.

00:05:55.320 And they were interviewing a similar Munchausen by proxy mother

00:05:58.280 who was talking about her preteen child

00:06:00.060 who now is just going to be devastated and ruined

00:06:03.280 because apparently they weren't allowed to interfere

00:06:05.440 with her development chemically for drugs.

00:06:09.660 It's absurdity.

00:06:10.880 And I appreciate the Smith government

00:06:12.800 saying the quiet part out loud with this.

00:06:15.200 European countries have brought in similar legislation.

00:06:17.340 You hear silence from the left from that

00:06:18.500 in the world of progressiveness that, you know,

00:06:21.060 Let's quit pretending that interfering with a natural body's progression from childhood to adulthood, which is called puberty, isn't a radical intervention, isn't potentially dangerous, you know, will not lead to permanent consequences.

00:06:35.400 Let's quit pretending that boys can compete in girls' sports and not cause risk and damage and things. 1.00

00:06:41.260 I mean, as you said, the majority of people looking at that know that this is not, it's absurd that we even had to legislate to stop these things.

00:06:48.120 but it also shows us as you said that the lack of trust in the courts we don't expect common

00:06:53.480 sense from our courts anymore do we want to have to waste the time of having all the hearings from

00:06:57.700 these lunatics from the activists from the weepy swords from the ninchies uh only to have some

00:07:03.040 crazy court rule against it perhaps and then you have to invoke the notwithstanding clause then so 0.73

00:07:07.240 let's just do it right now get it out of the way and we're done but uh boy you know the reaction

00:07:12.380 in canada when alberta uses the notwithstanding clause as compared to quebec using the laws no

00:07:16.060 Sure is night and day, isn't it?

00:07:18.200 Yeah.

00:07:19.020 You know, I'll go to William.

00:07:23.900 I'm generally supportive of this.

00:07:26.260 I mean, this is kind of the legislative nuclear option.

00:07:31.040 But I don't want us to be over-trigger happy about use of the notwithstanding clause.

00:07:35.980 The Charter has some good purposes.

00:07:39.380 I think it's been a very weird constitutional ingredient into a Westminster Parliament.

00:07:46.060 where normally Parliament is supreme and not a written constitution.

00:07:51.300 That's an American import into our system, but it's there,

00:07:54.480 and it has sometimes been beneficial, sometimes not.

00:07:59.360 But, I mean, the courts have done themselves no favors here.

00:08:03.580 You know, when they argue in the court's rule that,

00:08:05.900 yeah, we're going to give this guy a lighter sentence

00:08:07.900 so that we don't compromise his ability to stay in Canada

00:08:10.700 and he doesn't get deported, that is pure.

00:08:16.700 that no reasonable person, I think, would support.

00:08:19.980 I mean, it'd be a very small percentage of the population

00:08:21.500 back in that kind of thing.

00:08:23.240 The courts are supposed to be above politics.

00:08:25.140 They're supposed to be above the sentiments of the mob

00:08:27.960 because the mob can very often be wrong.

00:08:31.880 So I want to be able to trust the courts here.

00:08:36.640 The problem is we can't.

00:08:38.720 But are we, by starting to, you know,

00:08:42.540 preemptively use the notwithstanding clause here,

00:08:45.400 is it does that run the risk of making the charter meaningless making judicial independence

00:08:51.540 meaningless your thoughts uh so for me first of all i think it's crazy when we're talking about

00:08:57.420 the charter of right and charter and this kind of stuff like that it's crazy when the liberal

00:09:00.660 government was busy literally violating the canadian charter of rights and freedoms invoking

00:09:04.600 the emergencies act uh using the law canada's democratic processes illegally and unreasonably

00:09:09.720 it's not just me saying that's a federal court uh no one on the left had anything to say in fact

00:09:13.540 they defended those actions right but now when we have the law right and canada's fundamental

00:09:18.020 democratic purposes they're being used legally like the way that they're intended to be used

00:09:21.820 right um albeit in a way the left isn't like they're they're up in arms and i think that

00:09:25.420 speech volumes has never been about human rights it's always been about imposing your beliefs on

00:09:29.440 others and for their own good no left and i think less and i think that's the modern left for you

00:09:33.480 i think that actually like one of the things that's kind of funny to me is that we've heard

00:09:36.620 this talk about this uneasy alliance between like let's say islamic extremists and left-wing radicals

00:09:41.040 not a communist, right? But I don't think it's an uneasy or tense alliance at all. It's really

00:09:44.800 quite an intimate relationship. And they share a ton of ideological similarities. They're more

00:09:49.860 similar, I think, in fact, than not. They both espouse a rigid gender ideology and impose it on 1.00

00:09:54.700 all and sundry. They both think that fundamental human rights, like free speech and freedom of

00:09:59.560 belief, mean nothing. And violence to them is ultimately the answer to any disagreement with

00:10:03.760 their dogma i guess the same same to you nigel i i would i support the use here these are common 0.87

00:10:10.820 sense pieces of legislation overwhelmingly supported by most albertans the ndp of you know

00:10:16.140 this is one of those it's not even a 70 30 issue it's an 80 20 like overwhelmingly people are on

00:10:21.680 side with this kind of stuff the ndp is is captured by the hard end of its base that happens to

00:10:27.480 parties sometimes uh i maybe have been a part of it myself but uh they've taken the 20 side of an

00:10:33.180 question here.

00:10:36.300 I'm not sure.

00:10:38.920 I guess they just can't bear to piss off

00:10:41.340 their kind of radical progressivist 0.65

00:10:43.760 sex Marxism. 0.96

00:10:46.960 I don't know what the hell you call this. 0.95

00:10:49.120 But

00:10:49.320 they still remain on that side.

00:10:54.700 The legacy media

00:10:55.620 seems almost...

00:10:57.180 There'll be a couple of columnists who dissent here and there.

00:10:59.300 I'm guessing. You'll see a Rick Bell

00:11:01.140 speak out in support

00:11:03.000 dissenting from the rest of the media

00:11:04.720 but the legacy media

00:11:07.120 are still overwhelmingly on that side

00:11:09.240 I don't know why

00:11:11.020 they're as captured though as say the

00:11:13.000 NDP. The NDP has political pressures

00:11:15.120 internally that are going to keep them

00:11:17.100 on the 20 side of that AD question

00:11:19.240 I don't know

00:11:20.360 why is the CBC still

00:11:22.660 doing this? They don't have

00:11:25.040 market pressures, they don't have some kind of

00:11:26.960 political pressures. Well I don't know that that's

00:11:29.200 the case actually Derek

00:11:30.880 because, you know, Canada's national semi-official news agency

00:11:34.540 is funded by the government,

00:11:37.540 and Heritage Canada definitely has a point of view on these things.

00:11:43.300 You might recall that when we were speaking with John Hilton O'Brien

00:11:46.840 the last couple of months, 0.92

00:11:49.160 he was explaining how some of the gay sex books

00:11:54.780 that we object to in the school libraries,

00:11:57.160 Actually, the plan originates, it's funded through Heritage Canada.

00:12:01.240 Well, why would they care?

00:12:03.120 You know, I honestly don't know, but they clearly do.

00:12:06.700 And the same people would be talking to CBCs.

00:12:10.480 Put that together with the fact that women tend to be empathetic more than men do.

00:12:17.580 and will see perhaps the painful dilemma that some poor kids going through puberty all mixed up to hell

00:12:28.260 and just say, well, totally unwise, but say, well, let them change.

00:12:35.300 Danielle Speth, to her credit, is a little bit more hard-nosed than that. 1.00

00:12:39.480 She realizes that with parental support and good counsel, they'll get through it.

00:12:43.320 and they'll come out at the end of it the other side with a perfectly normal disposition you just

00:12:49.740 have to stop them from doing something that's going to ruin them for life when they're 13 years

00:12:55.460 old what knows we don't let them drive why would we let them make a decision like you're not allowed

00:13:00.160 to get a tattoo you shouldn't allow it to be uh you mess it with your kids uh yeah that's a pieces

00:13:06.540 another analogy i mean the chemicals used to stunt puberty are the same used for chemical

00:13:12.940 castration in places where they do that with sex offenders and that was found to be inhumane for

00:13:16.940 sex offenders but we're talking about putting it into 13 14 year old kids i mean this is just such

00:13:22.620 a bizarre it's all the intent doesn't it but anyway the point is she used the she she knows

00:13:28.460 what the voters want the thing that the charter cost us is the as uh represented the representational

00:13:36.860 democracy basically if you have a problem you get a lawyer and go to court you don't go to see your

00:13:42.540 MP. They'll get overruled by the

00:13:44.540 courts anyway. But the

00:13:46.520 notwithstanding clause was there for this

00:13:48.440 express purpose of taking back

00:13:50.640 control. Well, she took

00:13:52.600 back control. Power to her. 1.00

00:13:54.800 All right.

00:13:57.780 So,

00:13:58.660 the fight here is

00:14:00.520 with courts.

00:14:02.980 The next fight,

00:14:04.720 I think, is

00:14:05.680 Danielle spit this pick in here. 1.00

00:14:08.420 If this globe story is in fact

00:14:10.460 accurate. I have not seen it denied, so

00:14:12.220 I'm going to go on the basis that it is, because I hope very much that this is true.

00:14:19.020 You know, during the UCP leadership, I moderated a debate between herself and two of the other

00:14:25.120 leading candidates, and I asked them all, including Smith, you know, everyone talks

00:14:31.720 about, oh, I'm going to fix health care, and I'm going to tinker here, and I'm going to

00:14:34.980 tinker there.

00:14:36.220 And, you know, it's been 54 years, and the system is worse than ever.

00:14:40.920 I mean, you've had 54 years to make single-payer government monopoly healthcare work, and it has failed.

00:14:48.700 And I asked them, you know, are you willing to break the Canada Health Act?

00:14:54.480 And all of them either said no, or variations of dancing around the question to more or less say no without saying it explicitly.

00:15:05.060 This looks like it.

00:15:06.380 So the Globe is reporting that they're going to allow doctors to practice in both the public and the private system.

00:15:17.680 That opens the door to a lot more private.

00:15:19.400 Now, I mean, pearl-clutching types in Canada are going to say, oh my god, this means two-tier health care.

00:15:25.780 The whole planet has two-tier health care.

00:15:28.080 Canada has two-tier health care.

00:15:29.400 It's called America.

00:15:30.080 The extremely wealthy, I know a couple of them, they just go to the United States.

00:15:36.380 get an MRI. They get cancer screening. They get this stuff done. I pay out of pocket. They could

00:15:43.000 do that by allowing it to Canada, allowing private insurance. That's going to be what we now need is

00:15:47.980 private insurance for primary care, not just secondary care and bells and whistles, if I can

00:15:55.180 call it that. But this is a big, big step that would be a direct violation of the Canada Health

00:16:00.980 Act. Now, for those

00:16:02.300 following at home,

00:16:05.120 Alberta is not

00:16:06.080 bound by the Canada Health Act, because that is

00:16:08.720 federal legislation. That just

00:16:10.900 says that the federal government could then

00:16:12.540 stop healthcare transfers

00:16:14.800 to a province that breaks the

00:16:16.800 Canada Health Act. A normal

00:16:18.800 person looking at the Constitution would say, that's

00:16:20.820 unconstitutional, but our courts, being

00:16:22.900 our courts, ruled it's fine

00:16:24.780 because it's just giving money around. It's not telling them

00:16:26.860 what to do.

00:16:29.420 But yeah, Nigel, I think

00:16:30.720 uh this is a ballsy one um like this is the this has been the third rail of canadian politics

00:16:36.740 uh for my entire life proceeding even out a bit uh to the point where even stockwell they had to

00:16:43.060 hold up a sign during a national leaders debate when he was a leader of the alliance saying no

00:16:47.160 two-tier health care uh is the taboo broken i hope so i assure your sentiments entirely when

00:16:55.800 were pounding the desk there a moment this i mean this is a very old daniel smith idea from way back

00:17:01.640 when she was in the calgary herald editorial board shoes and saying you know one of many things that

00:17:07.560 we can do to get the system moving is let doctors pick up work on the side i think she probably 0.96

00:17:12.520 phrased it a little more elegantly than that but that was the essence of it um you know what's the

00:17:18.200 point of having medical facilities ready to go but you're not allowed to use them because there

00:17:22.600 isn't a budget for them here you are you're waiting for a medical procedure there is the

00:17:28.360 operating theater there is the empty slab there is the doctor who's reading a book why because

00:17:35.800 the government doesn't have the funds to put him to work all right hey what i got funds fix me

00:17:44.280 why would you not do that why would the government and this is true of governments right across

00:17:49.960 calendar they'll let you spend your money on all kinds of things that are bad for you but you try

00:17:55.560 and spend your money on something that's good for you like getting a i mean it's illegal uh

00:18:00.520 can't have that you know uh i mean what's the matter with these people this is absolute common

00:18:05.720 sense i i hope like you i haven't seen any documentation i haven't seen a i haven't seen

00:18:11.160 the draft i haven't seen the leaked document uh i've only got the globe and mail to go on and

00:18:16.360 usually the bloke has got something before they go to press so i'm inclined to think that this is a

00:18:21.040 real story i haven't denied it so well no they haven't denied it so let's hope it's going to

00:18:26.380 happen now the question is when uh when rolf klein years and years ago you'll remember this

00:18:33.340 he had a plan to try and take care of the problem in waiting rooms where people were frankly abusing

00:18:40.300 the system uh showing up on a sunday night with a sniffle they could have come in on friday they

00:18:45.260 I could have, you know, like people who didn't need to be in emergency,

00:18:48.260 was showing up in emergency.

00:18:49.720 I said, all right, we'll charge you $10 just for coming in for a visit.

00:18:55.240 Just a little bit of money out of pocket, people adjust their behavior.

00:18:59.800 Well, that was terrible.

00:19:00.860 We couldn't do that.

00:19:01.940 That's a violation of the Canada Health Act.

00:19:04.200 We're going to withhold the CHST, as it was called in those days,

00:19:07.900 Canada Health and Social Transfer, famous.

00:19:10.860 And, well, I mean, I don't know whether anybody would have done any different,

00:19:15.920 but Mr. Klein said, all right, and that was that.

00:19:19.340 And then he doubled down and introduced Bill 11 to actually outlaw private hospitals in Alberta,

00:19:26.320 and that law was still in effect.

00:19:28.080 So I like the idea of this.

00:19:29.440 I'd like to see Bill 11 abolished, and maybe we put some hospitals in Alberta

00:19:37.680 and go looking for business outside of Alberta,

00:19:41.620 bring the cost of procedures down through competition

00:19:48.200 and really start to make a difference 0.73

00:19:50.400 because what's happening now is ridiculous.

00:19:53.720 Well, William, if we do this in Alberta, 0.72

00:19:56.860 we're going to have some competition

00:19:58.120 because we're not the first, actually.

00:19:59.840 Quebec allows this.

00:20:01.980 There was the Chiouli decision.

00:20:03.800 God, that must have been, what, 20 years ago?

00:20:05.940 2002, I think it was.

00:20:06.920 Okay, yeah, over 20 years ago, we had the Sheoli decision, found it was, I forget the exact one, but it was found that access to a waiting list does not cost you access to health care, and banning people from then going and paying for their own health care was therefore a violation of security of the person, your right to liberty and life, and as I write to life and all that.

00:20:30.180 But Quebec has had this for a long time, but no one likes to talk about it.

00:20:37.060 It seems to fly below the radar.

00:20:40.880 So the fact that Quebec's been doing this for 20 years, I don't know.

00:20:45.240 Do you think this gives Alberta some cover from reprisal from Ottawa?

00:20:50.620 That if Alberta goes for this, they can't turn around and penalize Alberta 0.98

00:20:54.780 if it's already been allowed in Quebec for over 20 years?

00:20:58.220 You know, it should, but, you know, Quebec is treated very uniquely.

00:21:01.540 I think the other thing is that Alberta is being rendered kind of synonymous with the

00:21:04.920 conservative and the right in Canada.

00:21:06.400 And so they can't do anything right.

00:21:07.660 They're ultimately the cause of every problem.

00:21:10.700 But you're right.

00:21:11.180 It shouldn't be controversial at all.

00:21:12.480 In fact, the strongest, the best health care systems in the world in Japan and Europe use

00:21:16.140 similar system.

00:21:17.500 I'm in America a fair bit, and I'm plugged into a lot of conversations and you hear it

00:21:20.940 everywhere in the States.

00:21:22.140 Amongst the socialists, our Canada's public health care system is so great.

00:21:24.900 everybody gets to see the doctor not just a rich and it's simply not true nobody gets to see the

00:21:28.900 doctors here i think that's the problem rich poor no one uh they're years long waiting lists for

00:21:33.380 even urgent operations and people routinely die on the waitlist without getting to see their doctors

00:21:37.620 and it's so bad they're offering just to they were offering to kill people ourselves now with

00:21:41.220 maid right uh because uh and our most vulnerable populations at that i thought that we're trying to

00:21:45.860 be the most european of nations you know why the opposition it's just weird to me maybe the

00:21:49.700 weirdest thing is that it's alberta that's suddenly so progressive uh you know but you hit it on the

00:21:53.940 the head. All the opposition is because it's

00:21:55.960 a conservative idea. And again, from

00:21:57.980 Danielle Smith, who is, again, that

00:21:59.760 avatar of all that's bad 1.00

00:22:02.000 in Canada, all conservatism, populism,

00:22:04.080 and that's why it's been so rejected.

00:22:08.180 Corey, as I was saying with Nigel,

00:22:09.980 this has been the third rail

00:22:11.280 in Canadian politics forever.

00:22:14.120 Ralph Klein had his third way

00:22:15.840 he proposed, and that

00:22:17.900 obviously hit a brick wall,

00:22:19.420 politically.

00:22:21.840 This hasn't been announced. It's just come out

00:22:23.840 through the globe because it's carrie tate in the globe i'm guessing this is not a strategic leak

00:22:28.660 this was not intentional someone in the government i don't know it could be a political staffer could

00:22:33.200 be a member of the legislature could be a bureaucrat uh someone who doesn't like it

00:22:39.140 probably gave it i think this was intended to be a negative story but i i'm i'm like oh well

00:22:45.880 this is some of the best news we've gotten more of this um but i mean it's it's not going to be

00:22:52.220 without political controversy.

00:22:55.920 I think there's, you know,

00:22:57.740 especially among, I think, younger people,

00:23:00.900 the cult status of universal healthcare.

00:23:06.840 Young people today have never remembered

00:23:08.540 a time where it worked

00:23:09.560 because it never has worked.

00:23:12.100 It's never worked in my time.

00:23:14.960 I don't know if it's ever even worked

00:23:16.280 in your guy's time. 1.00

00:23:17.000 It's always been crap. 0.99

00:23:18.500 I mean, you know, 0.99

00:23:19.420 when I crashed a motorcycle

00:23:20.820 and I was in really serious, critical condition,

00:23:23.400 I'm pretty good.

00:23:25.000 As soon as I was kind of patched back together

00:23:26.740 and I needed to start learning to walk again, 0.97

00:23:29.160 turned to crap, and I just went to private. 0.93

00:23:30.900 I exited the public system at that time. 0.98

00:23:33.620 But for the most part, you know,

00:23:34.980 I've had non-life-threatening issues. 0.99

00:23:38.220 It's crap. 0.99

00:23:38.700 I've sat in an emergency room bleeding out, 1.00

00:23:41.880 trying to hold blood inside

00:23:43.800 from passing out in the waiting room.

00:23:49.100 But I don't know.

00:23:50.820 Do you think we're at the time where this is now entered the politically possible, or is this still just too much of a sacred cow?

00:23:58.660 I don't know.

00:23:59.160 I hope that, you know, the thing that has to be done is we've got to chip away at the orthodoxy.

00:24:02.980 And maybe the next generation hasn't been as trained, at least, as we were when we were younger.

00:24:07.200 It was always Canada has the best system in the world.

00:24:09.200 Canada has the best system in the world.

00:24:10.800 And it's not.

00:24:11.560 It's not by any measure any longer, not even close.

00:24:14.560 It's low and it's plummeting.

00:24:16.260 uh we want to we've got to become to use the leftist term non-binary let's bring this discussion

00:24:22.680 people even non-binary yeah let's bring it out of the there's just the american and canadian

00:24:28.000 systems because that's the narrative they've put together and in reality there's dozens and

00:24:32.320 dozens of universal systems all over the world many if not most of which are outperforming us

00:24:37.900 but we've got to start looking at them i mean we've got to bring that discussion to that why

00:24:41.860 can't we look at the netherlands why can't we look at france why can't we look at singapore

00:24:45.340 We can't wait to look at any other system on the planet other than North Korea and Cuba, which are the only other two that ban private health care.

00:24:53.080 Exactly. But we need to change that narrative for this to get through so it won't be as controversial.

00:24:57.940 We need to have that rational discussion without the screaming of the unions and the rest to say, look, let's emulate what's working best and bring it here.

00:25:05.800 That's a rational discussion. You've been around long enough.

00:25:08.080 I'm asking for a lot long enough. That's not going to happen.

00:25:10.540 Well, and the punitive aspect from the feds, we should turn that around and at least point

00:25:14.200 at, yes, the Canada Health Act says this, but it also initially said the feds were going

00:25:17.580 to cover 50% of our healthcare and they only cover about 20, which is not insignificant.

00:25:22.500 If they cut that out of a transfer, it's going to hurt the province dearly in health provision

00:25:26.660 if this came to that kind of battle, but the feds aren't holding up their side of it either.

00:25:31.060 If they think it's affordable for us to maintain this system, then they should think they should

00:25:35.220 be able to afford to fund 50% of it and they aren't even close.

00:25:38.560 So we've got to take that back to them.

00:25:41.420 Unfortunately, it starts through a leak.

00:25:43.160 It starts at the same time that it looks like the provincial government might have messed up the laboratory contracts and things such as that, which reduces trust when it comes to these things.

00:25:54.760 But as I said, we welcome the discussion, but that's us.

00:25:58.060 Will the public?

00:25:58.960 That's the bigger question.

00:25:59.840 Anyone from the premier or health minister's office watching, you should have just leaked it to us.

00:26:06.160 The globe got it anyway.

00:26:07.460 you should have just given it

00:26:09.200 to us

00:26:10.400 although I don't think the global article was

00:26:13.080 it wasn't terribly unfair

00:26:14.380 it was actually a fairly fair piece

00:26:18.200 a veteran journalist

00:26:19.180 yeah

00:26:20.420 it wasn't some torqued up

00:26:23.300 the world, the sky is going to fall

00:26:25.820 I think it was actually

00:26:27.260 a fair piece, I know some of you are going to hate on me

00:26:29.900 for saying that

00:26:31.400 credit where it's due, I think it was fair

00:26:34.220 alright

00:26:36.180 Right. I think, too, like you guys have all hit on a very important point.

00:26:39.440 I think it's like Canada has changed, right?

00:26:41.420 Maybe a long time ago in Canada, far, far away, like one that wasn't crippled by a crumbling economy, rampant crime and unbridled, unregulated international migration.

00:26:49.540 Maybe there and then a completely public health care system worked, but it hasn't worked in this Canada, our Canada for quite some time.

00:26:55.240 You know, never mind what happened during COVID.

00:26:56.840 I think that's the other kind of lurking ghoul in all this, right?

00:26:59.420 COVID, the pandemic has eroded the public's trust in the state health care apparatus collectively.

00:27:04.580 I mean, I don't think there's really any going back from that.

00:27:07.160 Yeah.

00:27:07.400 Also, you've got to remember, we've imported a ridiculous number of people into this country lately, 1.00

00:27:12.780 and they have not been propagandized that Canada has the great...

00:27:16.840 Oh, actually, it's funny.

00:27:18.140 The federal government actually is advertising that Canada has free health care to migrate.

00:27:22.240 They're like, come here, work for not a lot of money, so you're also not paying a lot of taxes,

00:27:27.900 and enjoy free health care.

00:27:28.940 We're advertising free health care, free.

00:27:31.080 but they're not

00:27:33.240 they haven't spent their life being propagandized

00:27:35.940 with this

00:27:36.760 Canada's got the 0.89

00:27:38.660 crappiest, wimpiest myths 0.97

00:27:41.880 countries are

00:27:43.920 some have described countries as

00:27:45.580 a group of people with shared myths and stories

00:27:47.680 well

00:27:49.120 we've gotten rid of all the real ones

00:27:51.400 that we were down to

00:27:52.760 and where we have this great universal health

00:27:55.220 the greatest healthcare system in the world

00:27:57.080 and we're peace and order

00:27:59.160 we don't have peace and order in our streets 1.00

00:28:01.120 our healthcare system is dog shit 1.00

00:28:03.100 all of these 0.99

00:28:04.880 myths that come out of the Trudopian 0.98

00:28:06.780 era of Trudeau the first

00:28:08.680 I don't think they have a lot of

00:28:11.340 currency anymore

00:28:12.200 present company excluded

00:28:14.720 I think it only holds

00:28:17.200 with segments of the boomers

00:28:19.180 and that's about it

00:28:21.180 at this time

00:28:22.280 I don't think people my age and younger

00:28:25.080 think around yeah that's what makes

00:28:27.340 me Canadian

00:28:28.020 free grade health care and public order in the streets because yeah that's that's what we're

00:28:33.540 getting in this country right now well i don't think anybody would be able to really define what

00:28:37.840 it means to be canadian right now outside of without using not american in some way i think

00:28:41.860 you went to the average canadian on the street all the pillars would have meant to be canadian

00:28:44.520 have eroded and collapsed spectacularly right um i think that one of the best points is all of our

00:28:49.640 doctors are actually leaving to go to these other health care systems they've lost faith in canada

00:28:53.460 systems uh in our political apparatus as a whole i think it's half of canadian youth uh they were

00:28:58.420 in favor of becoming america's 51st state at the at the close of the last election i think that's

00:29:02.360 telling that's their entire future half of our future please no future in canada okay well i'm

00:29:06.640 gonna come come to you first on the next one william uh the secret liberal conservative

00:29:12.240 coalition i i say that a little tongue-in-cheek you know the conservatives were always talking

00:29:17.280 about the the liberal NDP coalition that was a it was strictly speaking a coalition government in

00:29:24.940 the old sense but it was a formal working agreement that I think you could say fairly

00:29:29.520 constitute a coalition of a kind uh the conservatives can do not want to be seen

00:29:35.260 as the successors to the NDP in that coalition we saw how well that worked for the NDP in the

00:29:40.180 last election when they were utterly obliterated didn't even get official party status and had the

00:29:45.400 worst result, not just in

00:29:47.440 the history of the NDP, and not

00:29:49.420 just in the history of even the CCF, but

00:29:51.240 even the precursors to the

00:29:53.300 CCF, what they're, you know, kind of the odd little

00:29:55.220 radical Labour Party around.

00:29:57.200 They got annihilated. The Conservatives

00:29:59.320 voter base do not

00:30:01.480 want to be seen to be propping up the Liberals.

00:30:03.460 But, they don't

00:30:05.420 want an election right now. The polls are not great.

00:30:08.040 They went into the last election

00:30:09.540 doing pretty well, and then

00:30:11.140 obviously kind of blew it.

00:30:13.860 Their voter code, they got

00:30:15.380 a lot of votes. Their vote went up, but obviously

00:30:17.420 the Liberal vote went up even more with the

00:30:19.320 disillusion of the NDP.

00:30:21.940 The Conservatives wanted to desperately

00:30:23.540 avoid an election. The Liberals got

00:30:25.340 Elizabeth May's vote,

00:30:27.060 but the Conservatives had, I think,

00:30:29.460 two abstentions. One

00:30:31.300 was Shannon Phillips,

00:30:33.420 who they said was having

00:30:35.020 a medical procedure

00:30:37.240 or something. I don't know.

00:30:39.320 I haven't talked to her, but

00:30:41.300 often when that's the case, if you

00:30:43.040 when that's the case, the

00:30:45.200 whips will coordinate and say fine we have someone who has a very serious medical issue

00:30:48.840 then you pair off someone on your side i mean that that's the way these things have gone on for

00:30:55.180 over a hundred years the liberals did not have a similar abstention on their side and i'm not

00:31:00.920 aware of the conservatives making any effort to get one uh but i've not talked to shannon phillips

00:31:05.420 no idea about the actual circumstance but that's that's what's been said the other one was matt

00:31:10.960 Jenneru.

00:31:13.040 There's a riddle wrapped

00:31:14.840 inside an enigma of a news story

00:31:16.680 about what actually happened. Word

00:31:18.740 was he was going to cross the floor to the liberals

00:31:20.860 and then he says, no, I'm not.

00:31:22.980 I'm retiring, but I'm not retiring

00:31:24.740 right away. Doesn't really

00:31:26.780 say what for. The whole thing

00:31:28.740 smells. I haven't

00:31:30.780 made heads or tails of it, but the thing smells.

00:31:32.900 And he didn't vote, but he hasn't

00:31:34.660 resigned from parliament yet. He has not

00:31:36.860 resigned. He is still sitting as a conservative

00:31:38.920 MP and he didn't show up on the budget.

00:31:40.960 And then, adding to this, the conservative, I think, Andrew Shearer's house leader, right?

00:31:49.500 No, it's, what's her name?

00:31:52.600 Oh, Lanceman.

00:31:53.460 Well, she's a deputy leader. 0.51

00:31:54.760 Oh, house leader, yeah.

00:31:56.040 She's a deputy leader.

00:31:57.840 She is the house leader.

00:31:59.360 That's the guy responsible, along with the whip, for making sure everything going on in the house goes according to plan and everyone's there on time, etc.

00:32:07.920 He was

00:32:09.740 found

00:32:12.260 on the camera

00:32:14.040 watching Parliament. You could see him

00:32:15.380 kind of hiding

00:32:16.900 beneath, behind those curtains

00:32:19.980 that are behind the back benches in

00:32:22.020 there, and

00:32:22.620 then I guess when it looked like, okay,

00:32:25.980 we don't have enough votes to actually

00:32:27.840 defeat the budget and therefore trigger an election,

00:32:30.280 then he came out to vote

00:32:31.500 God on the record is voting against.

00:32:36.280 Okay, guys.

00:32:37.920 I know the conservatives don't like the budget.

00:32:40.300 It's not a conservative budget.

00:32:41.900 It does cut taxes, doesn't really cut spending.

00:32:45.020 It's not a great budget.

00:32:46.460 But they don't want an election.

00:32:48.980 William, I don't know.

00:32:51.880 Am I just too much of a bloody conspiracy theorist here?

00:32:54.320 Or did the conservatives intentionally not defeat the budget?

00:33:00.820 No, it reeks to high heaven.

00:33:02.000 I think you're bang on.

00:33:02.880 I think that this is exactly why Trump and draining the swamp,

00:33:06.020 what people call populism nowadays, which is really just a democracy relabeled,

00:33:10.580 why it all became so popular a decade ago. Corruption abounds. There appear to be no

00:33:15.540 real alternatives. And let's be clear here, it wasn't just the Conservatives. Every party

00:33:19.460 participated in the subversion of Canada's democracy, the NDP, the Green Party, everybody

00:33:23.860 was party to the plot. And you could even say that this kind of corrupt undemocratic garbage, 0.99

00:33:28.260 because that is what it is, let's call a spade a spade, is what underlies the current incredible 0.99

00:33:32.420 popularity of the secessionist movement in Alberta. I mean, even Quebec, if I understand

00:33:36.360 correctly, rumblings are starting. And the big problem, the major problem is that Pierre

00:33:40.360 Belyab is either party to it all or powerless against it, or at least that's how it looks 1.00

00:33:44.120 to everyone in Canada. And I think the budget passing and not having an election is ultimately

00:33:48.340 going to be framed or justified as something not good for Canada. But what are we really

00:33:51.520 talking about here? Is the Liberal government good for Canada? No, not at all. And so to

00:33:55.580 me, I think the really only recourse is to have the election. I mean, I know that we

00:33:58.960 don't want it. It isn't the right moment. But then we turn around, we start complaining

00:34:02.020 about how bad things are in Canada. The only way to fix

00:34:04.000 it, the only way to get through it, is through an election.

00:34:07.380 Sorry.

00:34:08.840 We just had a test

00:34:10.080 of the Alberta emergency alert

00:34:11.960 system coming through, so I believe that

00:34:13.900 in the show. Let people know. It works.

00:34:15.780 That was a lot. I thought it was my mic again.

00:34:17.740 No, then they're going to see we pre-report it.

00:34:20.460 Because everyone's going to have gotten it

00:34:22.000 earlier in the day, or at least for our Alberta watchers.

00:34:24.500 I got too passionate or something.

00:34:25.840 Yeah, Corey

00:34:27.600 did... They voted against it.

00:34:29.980 You know, so it's not like the NDP who stood up voting that, you know, Jake Meatsing would stand up and be like, this government has failed Canadians, it sucks, it deserves to go.

00:34:41.020 And then he stands up and votes, yes, I'm keeping them in power, yes, I'm voting for the budget.

00:34:45.000 It wasn't that.

00:34:47.560 They voted against the budget, they spoke against the budget, but they allowed the budget to pass.

00:34:52.960 I think that's pretty transparent.

00:34:54.160 But for the average, I think the average person, is this going to get through the average Canadian voter that the Conservatives let it?

00:35:04.920 No, I think your average Canadian doesn't really watch how parliamentary sausage gets made.

00:35:09.240 I mean, this is done in minority governments.

00:35:11.600 It's been done a lot, many, many times.

00:35:13.940 As I said, I think the term used to be the parliamentary flu.

00:35:16.480 They come along, and as you said, the whip or the House leader is going to be watching.

00:35:19.900 Normally the House leader is more than halfway behind the curtain.

00:35:22.760 So usually a little more discretion, but then suddenly a couple of members get the Hershey squirts and vanish until they can't pass that vote possibly under any other circumstance.

00:35:32.860 And then they get a full recovery and come back.

00:35:35.800 But this can't go on too, too long, or they will suffer the fate of Jagmeet Singh.

00:35:39.800 You know, you can kick that can down the road because you aren't in a position to hit an election, you know, and play both sides.

00:35:45.660 Say that you oppose the budget yet, make sure it kind of passes.

00:35:48.280 but they will have to try and find themselves or they will get weakened every time this happens so

00:35:54.400 I mean you can't rail and say we're going to bring the government down then carefully make sure that

00:35:58.600 you don't actually do it too many times before you've cried wolf too many times you just look

00:36:03.200 too weak and people will say the same thing they did with the NDP well if the NDP is just going to

00:36:07.900 be liberal I might as well just vote for the liberals and it'll happen that way with the

00:36:11.260 conservatives I think what the conservatives would have to worry about is weakening themselves

00:36:14.880 so much that the liberals

00:36:17.360 feel they can manufacture

00:36:18.480 a loss of confidence

00:36:20.800 and go to the polls and really nail them when they

00:36:23.220 really don't want to go. That's what I wanted to ask you,

00:36:25.160 Nigel, was there was some

00:36:27.020 speculation the liberals would have been just happy

00:36:29.340 for the budget to be voted down,

00:36:31.320 get an election. They're higher in the polls.

00:36:33.200 They're only two seats away from a majority right now

00:36:35.260 because there was one conservative across the floor

00:36:37.100 of the liberals.

00:36:39.540 They have a de facto majority, as we've

00:36:41.280 been saying, but it's a tight one

00:36:43.340 and, you know, you have one grumpy member of caucus,

00:36:46.520 he's got leverage over you all of a sudden.

00:36:49.480 If you have an actual majority with some space,

00:36:53.460 you could afford, you could tell them,

00:36:55.160 okay, yeah, well, yeah, go ahead and vote against the budget.

00:36:57.960 We're kicking you out of your riding.

00:36:59.700 Your political career's done.

00:37:01.520 They don't really have that kind of leverage right now.

00:37:04.660 How much do you think the Liberals would have been just fine

00:37:08.280 for this to be defeated, go to election?

00:37:10.260 Oh, I think, yeah, they would have come through on it all right.

00:37:14.780 The polls seem to indicate that they would have had a good start.

00:37:18.920 But don't, everybody gets very focused on this majority.

00:37:23.700 Well, you've got one, or maybe you've got a majority of two or whatever.

00:37:27.060 Stephen Harper governed from 2006 to 2011 from a minority position.

00:37:34.880 That is not to say that it is fun.

00:37:37.460 It is hard work.

00:37:38.900 everyone wants a majority everybody wants a majority obviously but you're constantly wheeling

00:37:43.680 and dealing and making arrangements here and in some ways that's kind of good for democracy

00:37:48.160 and you know if you actually have to work things out with the other side

00:37:52.320 the result is not always bad so carney with or without a majority well he did obviously the

00:38:01.700 government will fall on all his budget but if he's in a minority position should somebody change

00:38:07.020 their mind you know he can he can still get things done it's been done before many times so um what i

00:38:14.940 do uh deeply deplore is why conservatives are allowing any kind of discussion over the leadership

00:38:25.980 of the peer polyev uh the i mean there's one thing to do it behind closed doors but it's constant

00:38:32.860 sort of jockeying and showing polls and people going on the tellers as well you know he's a i

00:38:37.960 like him but he's actually i don't like him he shouldn't be leader anymore he's had his chance

00:38:42.600 you're going to work with a guy this is why they're down in the polls is they're not presenting

00:38:47.200 a united front i don't know i it's natural they lost the election they blew a gigantic lead

00:38:54.740 uh i'd say the dissension is pretty mild compared to previous what leaders have faced after previous

00:39:01.640 defeats. Harper faced more backlash

00:39:03.600 after he lost his first election

00:39:05.420 in 2004, but he had made huge

00:39:07.500 gains. It was the first election of the United

00:39:09.260 Federal Conservative Party.

00:39:11.580 They had brought the Liberals from a

00:39:13.100 big majority down to a minority.

00:39:16.960 You know, in

00:39:17.620 you know,

00:39:19.280 think of British Columbia right now.

00:39:21.600 We're not talking about John Rustack, but you know,

00:39:23.260 more news broken from our

00:39:25.320 man, Jared Yager,

00:39:27.140 our reporter in BC.

00:39:29.160 More dissension coming there.

00:39:30.820 There, they're just ripping themselves apart, and that is affecting the polls.

00:39:36.720 But I don't think it's unhealthy for a party.

00:39:40.520 I think Polly Ebb is probably the best guy to lead them right now. 1.00

00:39:43.500 I think conservative members would be well advised to vote to renew his leadership.

00:39:47.240 But I think it's healthy for a party to air this in a civil way after a defeat.

00:39:56.760 Well, let's hope you're right.

00:39:58.320 i i with a uh with the leadership review coming up in january there's too many people look like

00:40:04.160 they're trying to position themselves for something ah that such is the nature of the

00:40:09.120 politics but yeah okay well what depending on that go to our parting shots first parting shot

00:40:15.040 to cory sure i'll start with one just something that surprised me on x it's something i railed 0.89

00:40:20.000 about before but i i reminded people that jody gondek and her council of clowns there had it

00:40:26.480 renamed Fort Calgary into the confluence a year and some ago.

00:40:30.440 Yeah.

00:40:31.080 What, I mean, people were upset with that, which is fine.

00:40:33.380 But what surprised me was how many people said I didn't realize she'd done that.

00:40:36.760 They really slid that one under the radar.

00:40:39.800 Uh, so I've written a, you know, some self-serving things.

00:40:42.020 I've written a column in the standard that came out today on that.

00:40:45.080 You know what?

00:40:45.600 This would be a good start for this council to reverse that ridiculous thing.

00:40:49.040 Even if it's costly, we can't let this erasure of history keep happening.

00:40:53.960 Rename Fort Calgary to Fort Calgary.

00:40:56.280 the new mayor and council have a chance to do that and set an example for these self-serving

00:41:00.100 ones who have their vanity work project. You're going to have it reversed if you push it through.

00:41:04.260 So just stick to council business and quit renaming it. I actually asked

00:41:07.480 Jeremy Farkas about that in an interview very soon before the election

00:41:12.260 and he didn't say no, but he definitely didn't say yes either

00:41:16.180 saying, you know, that some of the chiefs in the area would consider it a declaration

00:41:20.220 of war. I don't know.

00:41:24.280 But, I mean, Mayor Farkas, new council, show some balls.

00:41:30.400 Fort Calgary is pretty important to the history of Calgary, 0.99

00:41:34.720 and that's what it's always been until a couple of jackasses came around 1.00

00:41:37.980 and decided to sanitize the name.

00:41:40.260 I don't think it's a particular...

00:41:42.200 There's no statue of General Lee there, like, for God's sakes.

00:41:46.340 It's Fort Calgary.

00:41:47.620 It's the namesake of the city.

00:41:49.200 If you're ready to change that, the next step will be changing the actual name of the city.

00:41:52.240 Yeah, but you won't be able to pronounce it.

00:41:53.940 see the spelling element it'll be a vancouver street yeah yeah yeah okay uh william parting

00:42:00.360 shot cool so as y'all know i was recently invited to speak and present my essay uh canada's right

00:42:05.540 wing response to a decade of liberal oppression at the toronto democracy forum confronts what

00:42:09.580 everyone in canada the right wing of the political spectrum conservatives in canada been going

00:42:12.980 through over the past decade um we should have the but as i understand on the western standard

00:42:17.220 website sometime soon um and or y'all can head over to my twitter x to check it out my handle

00:42:22.140 is will barclay pcbg um please do give it a read um it's being well received so i hope you guys

00:42:27.340 enjoy it nodule yeah yeah so i keep i keep tabs on the bc news and there's bc human rights chief

00:42:35.740 one of these empathetic ladies that i was talking about earlier declares that it's colonialist to 0.99

00:42:41.980 stigmatized drug use drug use is i guess so legitimate anyway look at it it's just crazy

00:42:52.460 in bc it's not the drugs that are dangerous only the people who notice that they're dangerous are

00:42:57.500 wicked colonialists you know what a weird world the british empire fought several opium wars

00:43:02.860 to make the chinese do drugs we the empire fought wars to make sure people are doing their drugs and 0.99

00:43:10.620 staying docile.

00:43:12.840 Somehow it's now

00:43:14.280 colonialist

00:43:16.220 or imperialist to say

00:43:17.760 perhaps you should not

00:43:20.420 be addicted to drugs and have a productive life.

00:43:22.460 Yeah, that stooped over fentanyl addict

00:43:24.260 is just living his best life and we're not to

00:43:26.160 criticize that. That is racist, Corey.

00:43:29.020 Alright.

00:43:32.640 You've already heard it.

00:43:33.960 I just gotta get it off my chest.

00:43:36.460 The Epstein Files.

00:43:40.620 Oh, it's coming.

00:43:42.980 You know what?

00:43:43.620 I'm going to get...

00:43:44.300 We're going to get disappointed somehow.

00:43:46.020 Somehow, no matter what laws get passed,

00:43:48.000 I feel like we're just never actually going to get it.

00:43:50.580 I hope I'm wrong. 0.96

00:43:52.720 The Democrats did not give a crap about Jeffrey... 0.99

00:43:56.360 Actually, no, they probably did give a crap. 0.99

00:43:57.800 They didn't speak a word, I should say, 0.99

00:43:59.200 of Jeffrey Epstein for four years while Biden's in.

00:44:01.820 They were silent about it when Trump was in the first time.

00:44:04.620 They did not want it out.

00:44:06.020 They were silent during four years

00:44:07.640 when they had Biden in the White House,

00:44:09.140 including when they had majority control of congress um then all of a sudden they got religion

00:44:15.920 and they wanted out because they saw it was a big defied within the republicans the harder uh you

00:44:21.080 know the more mega side of the republican party wanted this out trump had been campaigning hard

00:44:26.540 i'm gonna release it you know this is a part of draining the swamp we're gonna release the epstein 0.85

00:44:30.100 files everyone's gonna get to see everything and me wins and then we got this dog you know this

00:44:36.560 dog and pony show of fake release of files that were already released and don't show very much

00:44:41.820 and then there are no files and then uh maybe there's files but if you want the files you're

00:44:46.740 a traitor to me and traitor mega and i don't want your support and then you had a couple of brave

00:44:52.140 republican members of the house break away to side with the democrats because it's a pretty

00:44:56.180 thin majority they used their leverage they made a power play um and then it started an avalanche

00:45:02.320 And Trump was saying, this is just one where he's just dead wrong.

00:45:07.000 And for what reason he's doing this, I don't know.

00:45:09.240 He's dead wrong.

00:45:10.120 And he was saying, you know, to his closest allies like Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene,

00:45:14.880 like the people who would take a bullet for Trump, say they're traitors.

00:45:18.480 He called her Marjorie Trader Greene.

00:45:21.220 Not a bad nickname, but very imprecise, I think, in this case.

00:45:25.760 And we started an avalanche where you then had more than 100 Republican defectors

00:45:31.580 where they were able to force it to a vote on the floor.

00:45:35.240 Trump threw up his hands and says,

00:45:36.480 actually, it's good.

00:45:37.320 Yeah, let's actually vote for the bill

00:45:38.860 to release the Epstein files.

00:45:40.240 And then it was unanimous, except for one guy,

00:45:43.020 some guy, it's one lone Republican down in Louisiana

00:45:45.640 who voted against it.

00:45:48.020 I want to see what's on that guy's hard drive.

00:45:51.180 And then it's expected to get unanimous support

00:45:53.300 now in the Senate.

00:45:55.400 Theoretically, the Department of Justice

00:45:57.760 is going to be required by law

00:45:59.940 to release everything other than like

00:46:01.760 explicit images that should

00:46:03.860 obviously be protected for people's privacy

00:46:05.940 because, you know, um

00:46:07.880 I don't know. I don't know

00:46:10.040 how, but I feel like

00:46:11.720 an asteroid is going to come or something

00:46:13.880 and hit Congress. I

00:46:15.060 something's going to happen to stop

00:46:17.920 us from getting these files. I'm not

00:46:19.880 going to believe it until they're in my hands

00:46:21.460 but boy, I'm giddy.

00:46:23.760 Okay. Sweaty palms. Yeah.

00:46:25.840 You bet. Okay. Well, that's it, gentlemen.

00:46:28.300 Thank you very much. Okay.

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