Dave Naylor fills in for Corey Morgan on the show, and Nigel Hannaford joins the show to talk about the new world order and why Canada should be as cool as ICE in the fight against illegal immigration.
00:01:14.920Uh, all right. Uh, well, we're going to be talking about the new world order as, uh, Canadian prime minister, Mark Carney, sees it.
00:01:22.620He, uh, was in China for a trade deal. He gave a speech to the World Economic Forum in Davos.
00:01:28.740followed today by uh donald trump uh very interesting stuff there he used the world
00:01:36.860new world word new or the term new world order which is and then went and flew immediately to
00:01:43.000uh the world economic forum i'm sure that won't set conspiracies uh alight um we're gonna talk
00:01:51.780Total Recall Failure, these big, audacious plans to recall every single member of the UCP in Alberta, they have failed.
00:02:04.060Operation Total Recall is a total, total failure, it would appear.
00:02:10.020Their main target, the Education Minister, Dimitri Nikolaitis, ostensibly the guy they wanted the most to get for using notwithstanding clause,
00:02:20.720legislative teachers back to work uh and also the guy who i think holds the closest most narrowly
00:02:26.600won ucp seat in alberta they failed to get him in a recall and they failed by about a hundred miles
00:02:33.560they didn't even get within screaming distance uh very embarrassing uh but first we are gonna start
00:02:40.920off with why canada needs ice uh what's ice stand for again uh integration and customs enforcement
00:02:48.140Yeah, not a lot of government departments I like.
00:02:51.740The Rat Patrol in Alberta is one of them.
00:02:54.900ICE in the United States, that makes my list too.
00:03:02.100I think the style of the Trump administration, they're hyping things.
00:03:06.140They put out these edits, they're kind of hype edits.
00:03:08.260And I think if ICE is actually portrayed by the U.S. government as way more hardcore than it actually is,
00:03:13.600I think it's probably, for the most part, fairly mundane.
00:03:15.260But you've got these protesters, mostly Somali illegals and liberal white women in Minnesota, who are committing pretty serious crimes, disrupting federal law enforcement from carrying out its lawful duties, resulting in one woman who did some very inadvisable things and ended up getting herself shot for her trouble just the other week.
00:03:42.620um but it's uh it's totally out of control now they're attacking churches literally invading
00:03:51.060sunday services during during service invading religious services uh they're pulling people
00:03:56.780out of cars and attacking them it is total mayhem talk of invoking um the uh the insurrections act
00:06:12.580Either you're a country or you're not.
00:06:14.020So you go and ask them to leave and assist by putting them on a plane.
00:06:19.440Some of these people are awful people, not all of them I'm sure, but some of them are really bad. And so I share your appreciation for what ICE is actually trying to do down there.
00:06:31.700So I think I saw some numbers yesterday that 2 million people had self-deported from the United States.
00:06:54.680So walked across the border, which is itself illegal, doing whatever they can to survive.
00:07:01.040And you can't have that many people walk into a country without having an effect, which brings us to Canada.
00:07:07.680We are nowhere near as good at keeping track of people as the Americans are, and they certainly struggle with it.
00:07:13.700But I think the number I saw when I was looking all of this up, we have undocumented population estimates ranging from 600,000 to 1 million as of mid-2025.
00:07:34.640I mean, it's purely speculative when you don't know for sure as to how far this could go.
00:07:39.280but this is really driven by over a million work permits expiring in 2025
00:07:45.460and another 900,000 next this year uh and they they come here and then they don't go home well
00:07:53.800they're not the you know they're not the rapists the thugs the murderers and so forth that
00:07:58.820ice is dealing with in so many places in the united states but a deal's a deal you give you
00:08:04.020a visa for two years you come in you work you do whatever you're here to do and then you go home
00:08:08.820reapply if you want to come back there is an issue kind of just never takes that stuff seriously
00:08:13.620but it needs to well one of the uh lindsey one of the the fraud taking place in minnesota is i
00:08:20.900shouldn't say well documented it's just becoming known now you know the leering center and you
00:08:25.820know the funny stuff we've seen that's costing minnesota taxpayers an arm and a leg uh it's also
00:08:31.660So voter fraud, because, I mean, if you look, you know, let's put the map up on the screen.
00:08:38.760The states that require ID to vote versus the states that do not require ID to vote.
00:08:45.720You notice any overlap in how those states vote?
00:08:49.300States that do not require identification to vote overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
00:08:53.740States that require ID to vote overwhelmingly vote Republican.
00:08:56.640And the ones where it's a little mixed about where you how you need to vote, they tend to be swing states. You can't like there is by some estimates, Minnesota could lose a whole congressional district with the deportations going on.
00:09:13.380Now, the deportations are actually not that extreme as Nigel went through the numbers.
00:09:17.460They've actually only deported 300,000 people.
00:09:20.760That's a very small fraction of the illegals that are estimated to have come through during just the four Biden years,
00:09:28.620where it was quite explicitly welcomed for people to come in,
00:09:32.660where they actually cracked down on, say, Texas for actually trying to defend the U.S. voter.
00:09:38.780But that's one reason I think these Democrat politicians are so intent on defending, stopping deportations of illegals, is that they need them to vote.
00:09:49.840And in states that don't require voter ID, well, they're just taking their word for it.
00:09:54.480You're telling me that, you know, the guy running the Leering Center would think twice about casting a ballot without being a citizen?
00:10:04.480I mean, I just want to jump in here and just say, I know a lot of really great, hardworking immigrants.
00:10:10.360And every immigrant that I speak to who's come here to Canada through legal channels, they are the biggest proponents for protecting the borders.
00:11:00.060You guys, it's insane to think that we don't have to have voter ID.
00:11:02.900that should just that shouldn't even be a left or right issue i forget who said it but someone put
00:11:06.600it well uh some some lefty was saying voter id is racist you know this is this is racist
00:11:11.900someone replied with a great remark says just pretend it's a vaccination uh passport right
00:11:18.980but everything's everything you're trying to buy a sandwich right exactly speaking of racist the uh
00:11:25.560the other person not coming well out of this is uh our friend don lemon who uh who uh she's
00:11:32.180Stormed friend in quotation marks who stormed into that church in Minnesota and then in later broadcasts said all those people in there were not real Christians and in fact were white supremacists, which basically at the end of the day caused one of the greatest laughs I've ever heard coming out of Derek's office.
00:12:27.520I mean, sometimes the universe just comes together.
00:12:34.540You know, God doesn't often just reveal himself to us,
00:12:37.200but sometimes he gives us pretty strong hints that he is real and works in this world.
00:12:42.660You've got to wonder why Lemonin inserted himself into that situation.
00:12:46.540I mean, professionally, he's on the down track anyway, but this, I would think...
00:12:50.480He just wants to try and be relevant again anyway, kid.
00:12:53.240Well, I guess, you know, these kinds of people think that this legislation should only target the other, and maybe traditionally it only has, that it should target a Klansman coming into a black church, but they don't think that the same law would apply to a black man invading a church with white people in it.
00:13:12.300I'm sure there was probably others in it, I don't know, I haven't seen the congregation of the church, but he just seems to think that law wouldn't apply to him.
00:13:19.880No, it bloody well does. Maybe traditionally there's been governments that just wouldn't apply it to them, but it seems pretty reasonable here. It was that was it was chef's kiss good. But, you know, Dave, there's there seems to be zero appetite from Canada's federal government for any kind of similar enforcement.
00:13:38.720They're just relying on people who were let in on into the Trudeau years saying, well, you're supposed to you're supposed to go home.
00:13:48.040I mean, it's got about as much teeth as the recently announced federal gun grab or, you know, everyone gets all the licensed gun owners in Canada got this this letter in the mail from the government saying, thank you for not using your prohibited firearms during this period.
00:14:02.800Please kindly hand them in to Papa Carney.
00:14:08.000I think they got 25 guns, and that is out of, like, Cape Breton, where people are relatively more deferential to the government than out of the...
00:14:15.480And how much did it cost to implement this whole gun grab?
00:14:20.200There's one taxpayer at the end of the day.
00:14:21.760Yeah. So, I mean, it's got about as much teeth as that.
00:14:24.460Thankfully, you know, instead of setting government door to door and going to round up the guns of lawful, you know, peaceful gun owners, so that's obviously not hard.
00:14:35.040But in Canada, you know, our whole plan to get rid of all of these people who are now here illegally, because we let them in legally, temporarily, I think Trudeau was planning on, they were just going to be here permanently.
00:14:46.320They're here under a temporary visa to work, but there was a big wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
00:28:32.580So Europe is going to now do its own thing. It is probably going to go under. In my lifetime, Europe is almost certainly going under. So why should America underwrite it? Maybe you can argue it had an interest to do so during the Cold War. And during that time, European countries did pay more for the military, still less than the States. They needed the States to keep the Soviets out. But at this point, what interest does America have in actually propping up Europe?
00:28:56.120Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. I regret the passing of the old order, but sometimes you've got to face the fact that we have not done what we needed to do to preserve it. We have relied upon the Americans, and those days have done.
00:29:13.280I was waiting with the phone in my hand for Trump to land in Tule after he'd been in Davos and sort of just to say, well, here I am. But he didn't. I can't imagine why.
00:29:26.120yeah okay well let's uh bring it closer to home here uh lindsey uh so we had you know there was
00:29:36.000the big teacher strike the teachers are offered a pretty fantastic deal i was actually quite angry
00:29:40.720at the ucp for offering them as much as they did uh far above raises far above what people in the
00:29:46.720private sector are getting uh and of course if you're a teacher unless you diddle a kid you've
00:29:51.700got job security for life, pretty much. And even then, the ATA will defend you to keep your
00:29:56.160diddling job. But they were not negotiating. The UCP legislated them back to work and used
00:30:05.940the notwithstanding clause to essentially court challenge proof it. It's done. The unions lost
00:30:13.060their minds, and they say, well, we're launching a recall against every single member who voted for
00:30:19.620that back-to-work legislation, which is every single
00:32:08.220Like that's like, this was a total bomb, total failure.
00:32:10.900And I mean, let's be honest about the true cost to the taxpayer, right?
00:32:14.260Like it costs a lot of money if these recalls even went through.
00:32:17.040So there's a bit of an irony here, right?
00:32:19.000Like recall legislation is UCP legislation.
00:32:21.460And it did backfire on them initially in the sense that, you know, it gave their opponents this big megaphone, but it also acted as the real world stress test.
00:32:29.500So, and the law held and recalls hard and that's probably by design.
00:32:32.800So the problem for the NDP is they really overestimated how transferable this union anger would be to the general electorate, and the timing's really bad for them.
00:32:44.740Now, if this was like minutes away from a set date provincial election, I would say, you know, the Conservatives would have been in a lot more trouble.
00:32:52.240But there's so much time to rebuild between now and whether it's this coming fall or whether it's in 2027.
00:32:57.880and there's so much time to rebuild and this just looks like a bunch of angry union activists and
00:33:04.120it doesn't even look like the grassroots had anything to do with this. So I think it shows
00:33:10.040a lot. So this showed that there was intensity without reach, that there's loud activism that
00:33:15.800just didn't translate beyond a very narrow base and it's a good news story for the UCP
00:33:21.320and it's all what they do with this. I do want to say a little bit in defense of teachers,
00:33:25.960I want to say that I'm a huge proponent for choice in education, right? I believe the funding
00:33:30.760follows the student. There's a lot of misconceptions out there that, you know, this funding, private
00:33:38.280education funding, like there's no, it doesn't cost, there's no tuition for you, like there's
00:33:43.240school fees, but there's no tuition for you to go to charter schools. The reason that charter schools
00:33:47.400and independent schools, and as a parent who has one public, one in Catholic, and one in independent
00:33:51.400school. I will tell you which one, hands down, is the best school, and that is the independent
00:33:55.900school. Is that your situation? I have one each. I truly do. I had to pull one from the Catholic
00:34:01.660program, not against the Catholic institution, but my child has some unique challenges where
00:34:08.140she needed some more supports and she needed to be in a different kind of program. These
00:34:14.400independent schools are phenomenal. I am not a wealthy person, and there's this stigma that
00:34:20.000still, still, still the advocates can't break through that independent schools, charter schools
00:34:24.760are for the wealthy. They aren't. Most of the students are not wealthy. They're not from wealthy
00:34:29.440families. So let's just, let's just refer to just very quickly. Let's refer. We're not talking about
00:34:35.360charter schools. No, we're not. But anyways, that's the anger machine that comes behind this. So let's
00:34:39.960have a little bit of compassion for, yes, we know that schools are overcrowded. We know teachers need
00:34:44.160more resources, not necessarily more pay. They got that out right off the hop. But at the end of the
00:34:48.260day, this comes down to big federal immigration problems where there's
00:34:51.980hordes of people coming into this province and all of our systems are strained.
00:34:55.520So if you want to blame somebody, maybe don't necessarily blame the UCP
00:34:58.820government and maybe look to the federal policies that I know it lacks to happen.
00:43:42.820And I thought Michelle had it and I would like everybody else to get it too.
00:43:46.800I think one of the bigger issues, and it's going to become bigger and bigger and bigger, is euthanasia in Canada, medical aid in dying.
00:43:57.640And I just want to throw out to my colleague Nigel here, who this week published a big report in the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, a bit of a mouthful, about the subject.
00:44:10.240So, Nigel, where can people go and read your report?
00:44:12.540Thank you very much. And look at Linda Slobodian's work on this as well in our files.
00:44:18.220I've got one. I just want to throw to Alberta independence movement. This has a lot of moving parts right now. There's a lot of pro-Separatist people out there. There's a lot of people are somewhere in the middle. There's people who are very good conservatives, I would consider, who are really fighting for a united Canada. So everybody be nice to each other out there. There's a lot of evolving parts. This doesn't have to be an us versus them.
00:44:38.800Watch out for labels, pay attention, but do not underestimate this movement that's happening right now. It is a very organized effort with a lot of grassroots people working behind the scenes, and hopefully we will somehow see democracy in action as a result at the end of the day, however this shapes out.
00:44:55.740I was going to talk about how Ezra Levant of Rebel News kind of, you know, did the, I don't mean this pejoratively, did the kind of the ambush, came up with a mic, asked him a question because it was right after, you know, another major court defeat for the federal government and Trudeau's time when they invoked the Emergencies or War Measures Act against the Freedom Convoy.
00:45:20.380and Trudeau had nothing to say about that.