Western Standard - Canada needs ICE

00:00:00.000 G'day and welcome. I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're

00:00:29.360 watching The Pipeline. Today

00:00:30.980 is... The hell is the date? It's the

00:00:33.400 21st of January.

00:00:36.300 Still getting back into

00:00:37.480 the routine of it.

00:00:39.580 It's actually the first year of my life. I think I've

00:00:41.480 not actually gotten the year wrong

00:00:43.380 once when writing out the date.

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00:00:45.520 getting better in my old age.

00:00:49.280 I'm joined by Usuals,

00:00:51.420 former Western Standard opinion editor

00:00:53.040 Nigel Hannaford. Nice to be here.

00:00:55.780 Western Standard news editor

00:00:57.140 Dave Naylor. G'day.

00:00:59.360 And filling in for Corey Morgan on his show and his sled on the pipeline is, uh, it's Lindsay. 0.82

00:01:06.220 Hi, Lindsay. Lindsay Wilson.

00:01:08.680 Your day was changed before. I had a, I had a brain fart.

00:01:12.520 Okay. Yeah, I got caught.

00:01:14.920 Uh, all right. Uh, well, we're going to be talking about the new world order as, uh, Canadian prime minister, Mark Carney, sees it.

00:01:22.620 He, uh, was in China for a trade deal. He gave a speech to the World Economic Forum in Davos.

00:01:28.740 followed today by uh donald trump uh very interesting stuff there he used the world

00:01:36.860 new world word new or the term new world order which is and then went and flew immediately to

00:01:43.000 uh the world economic forum i'm sure that won't set conspiracies uh alight um we're gonna talk

00:01:51.780 Total Recall Failure, these big, audacious plans to recall every single member of the UCP in Alberta, they have failed.

00:02:04.060 Operation Total Recall is a total, total failure, it would appear.

00:02:10.020 Their main target, the Education Minister, Dimitri Nikolaitis, ostensibly the guy they wanted the most to get for using notwithstanding clause,

00:02:20.720 legislative teachers back to work uh and also the guy who i think holds the closest most narrowly

00:02:26.600 won ucp seat in alberta they failed to get him in a recall and they failed by about a hundred miles

00:02:33.560 they didn't even get within screaming distance uh very embarrassing uh but first we are gonna start

00:02:40.920 off with why canada needs ice uh what's ice stand for again uh integration and customs enforcement

00:02:48.140 Yeah, not a lot of government departments I like.

00:02:51.740 The Rat Patrol in Alberta is one of them.

00:02:54.900 ICE in the United States, that makes my list too. 0.99

00:02:57.320 I love ICE. I want so much more ICE.

00:03:02.100 I think the style of the Trump administration, they're hyping things.

00:03:06.140 They put out these edits, they're kind of hype edits.

00:03:08.260 And I think if ICE is actually portrayed by the U.S. government as way more hardcore than it actually is,

00:03:13.600 I think it's probably, for the most part, fairly mundane.

00:03:15.260 But you've got these protesters, mostly Somali illegals and liberal white women in Minnesota, who are committing pretty serious crimes, disrupting federal law enforcement from carrying out its lawful duties, resulting in one woman who did some very inadvisable things and ended up getting herself shot for her trouble just the other week. 0.57

00:03:42.620 um but it's uh it's totally out of control now they're attacking churches literally invading

00:03:51.060 sunday services during during service invading religious services uh they're pulling people

00:03:56.780 out of cars and attacking them it is total mayhem talk of invoking um the uh the insurrections act

00:04:05.640 in the United States.

00:04:09.500 Maybe we'll just start with what's happening there,

00:04:11.980 and then maybe we'll get to why Canada should be as cool as ice.

00:04:17.220 Well, I think you summed up pretty well what is happening there.

00:04:20.060 What you didn't mention, which is highly significant,

00:04:22.660 is the role of elected officials in stimulating disorder.

00:04:27.240 When you have the governor of the state,

00:04:30.300 when you have the mayor of the city saying,

00:04:33.360 resist ICE. By the way, cover your cell phones, make sure that you're not easy to follow.

00:04:42.320 We'll tip you off where ICE is operating. Go there and make a scene.

00:04:48.560 Insurrections Act is probably, yeah, that is an insurrection. And it's astonishing because

00:04:55.200 it's one level of government contending with another. We very, very seldom see that so overtly.

00:05:01.440 Obviously, we've seen lots of resistance among blue states to, you know, red presidential

00:05:09.520 government, but it's very seldom that you actually see them go out and say...

00:05:14.320 Oh, they're inciting violence.

00:05:15.600 Inciting violence.

00:05:16.800 So as for why, well, you know, there's a massive fraud down there, and when all the tales of that

00:05:24.480 are told, it's probably going to lead back to the governor's office, in which case he has every

00:05:29.280 reason to to distract attention but i mean this is just in one city if it works there i'm sure

00:05:37.520 the people who organized it and this is organized it's not a spontaneous eruption you know would

00:05:42.160 take the show on the road and see if they could disrupt elsewhere and provoke a an overreaction

00:05:50.160 from the Trump administration.

00:05:53.740 Now, the point about all of this, really,

00:05:56.860 is that why would you not have an immigration enforcement?

00:06:01.980 If you're a serious country and you have a border,

00:06:04.720 people penetrate the border in not hundreds of thousands,

00:06:08.940 but in millions.

00:06:10.740 They're there illegally.

00:06:12.580 Either you're a country or you're not.

00:06:14.020 So you go and ask them to leave and assist by putting them on a plane.

00:06:19.440 Some of these people are awful people, not all of them I'm sure, but some of them are really bad. And so I share your appreciation for what ICE is actually trying to do down there.

00:06:31.700 So I think I saw some numbers yesterday that 2 million people had self-deported from the United States.

00:06:42.400 665,000 had been removed.

00:06:45.360 That still leaves about 7.5 million to go.

00:06:50.040 People who just from the Biden era, from just the Biden era.

00:06:54.040 Yeah.

00:06:54.680 So walked across the border, which is itself illegal, doing whatever they can to survive.

00:07:01.040 And you can't have that many people walk into a country without having an effect, which brings us to Canada.

00:07:07.680 We are nowhere near as good at keeping track of people as the Americans are, and they certainly struggle with it. 0.94

00:07:13.700 But I think the number I saw when I was looking all of this up, we have undocumented population estimates ranging from 600,000 to 1 million as of mid-2025.

00:07:34.640 I mean, it's purely speculative when you don't know for sure as to how far this could go.

00:07:39.280 but this is really driven by over a million work permits expiring in 2025

00:07:45.460 and another 900,000 next this year uh and they they come here and then they don't go home well

00:07:53.800 they're not the you know they're not the rapists the thugs the murderers and so forth that

00:07:58.820 ice is dealing with in so many places in the united states but a deal's a deal you give you

00:08:04.020 a visa for two years you come in you work you do whatever you're here to do and then you go home

00:08:08.820 reapply if you want to come back there is an issue kind of just never takes that stuff seriously

00:08:13.620 but it needs to well one of the uh lindsey one of the the fraud taking place in minnesota is i 0.93

00:08:20.900 shouldn't say well documented it's just becoming known now you know the leering center and you

00:08:25.820 know the funny stuff we've seen that's costing minnesota taxpayers an arm and a leg uh it's also

00:08:31.660 So voter fraud, because, I mean, if you look, you know, let's put the map up on the screen.

00:08:38.760 The states that require ID to vote versus the states that do not require ID to vote.

00:08:45.720 You notice any overlap in how those states vote?

00:08:49.300 States that do not require identification to vote overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

00:08:53.740 States that require ID to vote overwhelmingly vote Republican.

00:08:56.640 And the ones where it's a little mixed about where you how you need to vote, they tend to be swing states. You can't like there is by some estimates, Minnesota could lose a whole congressional district with the deportations going on.

00:09:13.380 Now, the deportations are actually not that extreme as Nigel went through the numbers.

00:09:17.460 They've actually only deported 300,000 people.

00:09:20.760 That's a very small fraction of the illegals that are estimated to have come through during just the four Biden years,

00:09:28.620 where it was quite explicitly welcomed for people to come in,

00:09:32.660 where they actually cracked down on, say, Texas for actually trying to defend the U.S. voter.

00:09:37.760 It's voter fraud.

00:09:38.780 But that's one reason I think these Democrat politicians are so intent on defending, stopping deportations of illegals, is that they need them to vote.

00:09:49.840 And in states that don't require voter ID, well, they're just taking their word for it.

00:09:54.480 You're telling me that, you know, the guy running the Leering Center would think twice about casting a ballot without being a citizen?

00:10:02.800 I don't think so.

00:10:04.480 I mean, I just want to jump in here and just say, I know a lot of really great, hardworking immigrants.

00:10:10.360 And every immigrant that I speak to who's come here to Canada through legal channels, they are the biggest proponents for protecting the borders.

00:10:19.740 They have escaped regimes.

00:10:21.920 They have escaped communism.

00:10:23.560 They have escaped dictatorships.

00:10:25.820 And they've come here to work hard, build a better life for their children.

00:10:29.420 They don't want this country to turn into what they ran away from in the first place.

00:10:33.660 I am the daughter of a refugee from communism and I grew up with all of the horror stories

00:10:39.120 and they're not stories.

00:10:40.160 They were the truth of what really happened.

00:10:42.380 And so I think we have to, you know, we let the left really turns this into a big culture

00:10:47.200 war.

00:10:47.780 You have to protect your borders as a country.

00:10:50.540 That's not being racist.

00:10:51.860 That's not being against.

00:10:53.220 That's not trying to ethnically cleanse a culture or a country, right?

00:10:57.740 And you have to have voter ID.

00:10:59.260 It's insane.

00:11:00.060 You guys, it's insane to think that we don't have to have voter ID.

00:11:02.900 that should just that shouldn't even be a left or right issue i forget who said it but someone put

00:11:06.600 it well uh some some lefty was saying voter id is racist you know this is this is racist

00:11:11.900 someone replied with a great remark says just pretend it's a vaccination uh passport right

00:11:18.980 but everything's everything you're trying to buy a sandwich right exactly speaking of racist the uh

00:11:25.560 the other person not coming well out of this is uh our friend don lemon who uh who uh she's

00:11:32.180 Stormed friend in quotation marks who stormed into that church in Minnesota and then in later broadcasts said all those people in there were not real Christians and in fact were white supremacists, which basically at the end of the day caused one of the greatest laughs I've ever heard coming out of Derek's office.

00:11:53.520 And I'll let him explain why.

00:11:55.240 Oh, what did I do?

00:11:56.080 About when he was being charged.

00:11:57.540 Oh, okay. So he's being charged

00:11:59.820 for invading

00:12:01.220 a church. There's something

00:12:03.440 called, you know, America. They've created

00:12:05.400 names for their legislation. This one's called, like, the KKK 0.88

00:12:07.540 Act or something.

00:12:09.180 Because, you know, black churches would be targeted by 0.99

00:12:11.480 some unpleasant people. 1.00

00:12:13.860 Like the Clown. 0.63

00:12:15.280 And so it's called the KKK Act. 0.97

00:12:17.440 And so he, Don Lemon, a black guy, is charged

00:12:19.560 under the KKK Act

00:12:21.040 on MLK

00:12:23.540 Day. Martin Luther King Shooter

00:12:25.480 Day. Like, the

00:12:27.520 I mean, sometimes the universe just comes together.

00:12:34.540 You know, God doesn't often just reveal himself to us,

00:12:37.200 but sometimes he gives us pretty strong hints that he is real and works in this world.

00:12:42.660 You've got to wonder why Lemonin inserted himself into that situation.

00:12:46.540 I mean, professionally, he's on the down track anyway, but this, I would think...

00:12:50.480 He just wants to try and be relevant again anyway, kid.

00:12:53.240 Well, I guess, you know, these kinds of people think that this legislation should only target the other, and maybe traditionally it only has, that it should target a Klansman coming into a black church, but they don't think that the same law would apply to a black man invading a church with white people in it.

00:13:12.300 I'm sure there was probably others in it, I don't know, I haven't seen the congregation of the church, but he just seems to think that law wouldn't apply to him.

00:13:19.880 No, it bloody well does. Maybe traditionally there's been governments that just wouldn't apply it to them, but it seems pretty reasonable here. It was that was it was chef's kiss good. But, you know, Dave, there's there seems to be zero appetite from Canada's federal government for any kind of similar enforcement.

00:13:38.720 They're just relying on people who were let in on into the Trudeau years saying, well, you're supposed to you're supposed to go home.

00:13:48.040 I mean, it's got about as much teeth as the recently announced federal gun grab or, you know, everyone gets all the licensed gun owners in Canada got this this letter in the mail from the government saying, thank you for not using your prohibited firearms during this period.

00:14:02.800 Please kindly hand them in to Papa Carney.

00:14:05.920 Is there 25? How many did they yield?

00:14:08.000 I think they got 25 guns, and that is out of, like, Cape Breton, where people are relatively more deferential to the government than out of the...

00:14:15.480 And how much did it cost to implement this whole gun grab?

00:14:18.100 They spent millions on it. Millions.

00:14:20.200 There's one taxpayer at the end of the day.

00:14:21.760 Yeah. So, I mean, it's got about as much teeth as that.

00:14:24.460 Thankfully, you know, instead of setting government door to door and going to round up the guns of lawful, you know, peaceful gun owners, so that's obviously not hard.

00:14:35.040 But in Canada, you know, our whole plan to get rid of all of these people who are now here illegally, because we let them in legally, temporarily, I think Trudeau was planning on, they were just going to be here permanently. 1.00

00:14:46.320 They're here under a temporary visa to work, but there was a big wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

00:14:50.880 You are going to be here permanently. 0.96

00:14:53.920 Go to some diploma mill, get a bullshit degree or diploma in something that you don't have to show up for class. 1.00

00:15:00.900 get your bullshit diploma from a diploma 1.00

00:15:02.840 mill. You know, after 1.00

00:15:04.860 a couple years, you get permit

00:15:06.180 residency and then citizenship.

00:15:09.280 There was kind of a nudge-nudge.

00:15:11.000 So they didn't even bother tracking these people.

00:15:13.640 We've just asked them to go.

00:15:15.880 And I'm sure some

00:15:16.860 have probably gone.

00:15:18.640 But we've got no idea. We have nothing

00:15:20.840 like ICE in Canada to

00:15:22.820 crack down. According to

00:15:25.000 the facts revealed in

00:15:26.880 the investigation, we've lost track of

00:15:28.680 30,000 who actually

00:15:30.700 are wanted for deportation

00:15:33.280 orders, as opposed to merely

00:15:34.860 a little student from somewhere who's

00:15:37.040 been pulling coffee for the

00:15:39.140 last two years. You probably

00:15:40.980 aren't that interested in her, but there are some bad

00:15:43.060 dudes out there that we were interested 0.71

00:15:45.200 in deportation orders.

00:15:47.860 We don't know where they are

00:15:49.080 to enforce the orders.

00:15:50.580 I want those guys gone first, but actually, I do

00:15:53.080 care about the person who's just been

00:15:55.080 pouring coffee for two years because

00:15:57.160 we've flooded the labor market.

00:15:59.040 We've created this underclass of people 1.00

00:16:00.420 or people born in this country can't get entry-level jobs now.

00:16:04.420 It does matter.

00:16:05.280 We've distorted the labor market.

00:16:06.600 We've taken away people's birthright.

00:16:08.840 It actually does, and we can't, there's just no way any society

00:16:11.720 can integrate this number of people from an alien culture.

00:16:14.620 You can't do it.

00:16:15.420 It's just too many.

00:16:16.740 So, yeah, I mean, there is the big fish to fry,

00:16:19.120 and they should be the first ones.

00:16:20.320 Those 30,000 we want for criminals, we've lost track.

00:16:23.840 Eric, in theory, I completely agree with you,

00:16:25.980 but there is one particular one who does pour coffee

00:16:28.140 son wants to marry, so

00:16:30.600 I want her here.

00:16:33.400 Okay? We're allowed

00:16:35.100 to be a little bit particular.

00:16:37.200 I got my exceptions on my list, too.

00:16:38.520 $29,999. Let's round them up

00:16:41.120 and ship them out. I've got people on my

00:16:43.280 do-not-deport list as well.

00:16:44.900 Okay. Good.

00:16:45.700 Yeah.

00:16:47.500 All right.

00:16:49.980 We'll zoom it out.

00:16:52.000 I guess it's Canada and the States again.

00:16:55.580 So,

00:16:55.840 So, Kanye was in China for trade talks.

00:17:02.240 I mean, it's something we should always be very leery of because China is a pretty hostile actor. 0.99

00:17:07.300 It's notoriously been involved in our elections, intimidation of Chinese Canadians, manipulating them. 0.96

00:17:16.320 It's something we need to be on guard on.

00:17:18.060 But, you know, under the Trudeau government, Canada had opposed a 100% tariff on electrical vehicles coming into Canada.

00:17:25.160 that was designed to make Doug Ford happy to protect the not yet really existent EV battery

00:17:31.360 and EV manufacturing industry in Ontario, subsidized with endless billions of both

00:17:38.740 Ontario and federal taxpayer dollars. I think it works out to something like $5 million of

00:17:44.820 taxpayer subsidies per job. It's worse than Bombardier. It's sickening how subsidized

00:17:50.960 these things are. So it's an industry that

00:17:52.960 I don't think the laws of economics

00:17:55.220 agrees should exist.

00:17:58.640 But

00:17:59.200 China, in retaliation, 0.71

00:18:01.740 slapped a huge tariff on

00:18:03.320 Canadian

00:18:05.600 canola,

00:18:06.640 beef, and

00:18:08.660 pork, which are particularly

00:18:11.320 important to the West, especially

00:18:13.160 canola and beef,

00:18:15.200 but pork as well. So the West,

00:18:17.280 Western Canada was being penalized to support

00:18:19.100 industry in ontario that doesn't even really exist and exists only by a combination of tariffs and

00:18:25.180 massive massive subsidies uh carney went to china and got a deal

00:18:32.620 yes yes yes he did uh much to the uh disgust of doug ford who today called for all canadians to

00:18:41.100 boycott chinese electrical vehicles even though they'll be a lot cheaper than the ones the ones 1.00

00:18:47.260 built here and he got on his

00:18:49.280 plane and flew to

00:18:50.840 United Arab Emirates, signed some

00:18:53.240 memorandum of understanding there

00:18:55.420 and then flew into the WEF

00:18:57.620 where again he took center stage

00:18:59.600 to talk about his version of

00:19:01.420 the new world order. Said the

00:19:03.360 old world order is gone, it's not

00:19:05.400 coming back. Stopped being

00:19:07.260 sentimental and nostalgic

00:19:09.640 and urged the

00:19:11.480 non-major

00:19:13.920 countries of which Canada would

00:19:15.480 be one uh to get together to protect themselves from the major countries and we of course know

00:19:21.440 he's talking about the united states there and their grand plans uh speech went down in liberal

00:19:28.040 circles it was the best speech since uh winston churchill was alive i would argue that it goes

00:19:34.440 beyond the board of circles i'm i'm really amazed at how many people are just stunned at his at his

00:19:39.500 charisma i mean the guy can talk and and it's very distracting because well it's identity politics are

00:19:45.080 what they are and i think the conservatives are in a little bit of trouble i disagree with you

00:19:50.120 about charisma because every second word is uh yeah but it's a change to have a canadian leader

00:19:55.960 who's intelligent uh who's i heard dispute that it is being dubbed as a power look where the bar

00:20:03.000 has been set i mean uh i i was talking to some normies yesterday and who are not very liberal

00:20:10.080 friendly, but they're not, you know,

00:20:12.560 total red-pilled

00:20:13.860 off-the-walk Red Wing.

00:20:16.160 And, you know, they're like,

00:20:18.080 yeah, I don't agree with everything he said, but I mean,

00:20:19.960 it was refreshing

00:20:21.760 to hear a Canadian Prime Minister

00:20:24.300 say something that wasn't 0.79

00:20:26.260 retarded. 1.00

00:20:27.580 The bar was very low.

00:20:29.560 You've said the bar's so low that if you come

00:20:32.140 in with your pants on to the podium,

00:20:34.180 I guess the borrow phrase for tonight,

00:20:36.080 back to the 2015 debate, a Prime

00:20:38.160 minister shows up with his pants on for a major speech he's exceeding a bar here so uh i think

00:20:44.520 he did well uh you know let's play the tiny clip here where he talks about the new world order

00:20:50.000 i believe the progress that we have made in the partnership sets us up well for the new world

00:20:59.260 order.

00:21:02.760 Okay, so

00:21:03.700 that was not

00:21:05.400 a part of

00:21:08.180 prepared remarks. I think that was actually in China where he

00:21:10.180 said it.

00:21:12.120 You could tell he's just kind of speaking off the cuff.

00:21:14.080 He's like, new world order. And halfway through

00:21:16.200 the word order, he realizes, oh shit. 1.00

00:21:18.360 I just said new world order. 0.99

00:21:19.860 That's going to set some people's spidey senses

00:21:22.320 tingling.

00:21:23.760 The memes are a-coming.

00:21:25.940 I'm not sure that that is a part of a grand

00:21:28.240 plan or anything there.

00:21:31.460 I think that's more of...

00:21:32.800 Well, there is a new order to the world

00:21:34.500 very clearly taking place.

00:21:36.140 Maybe it's a return to a much older order.

00:21:38.580 The

00:21:38.820 pre-Second World War

00:21:42.680 order of great power politics,

00:21:44.720 realpolitik, or even

00:21:46.580 pre-World War I.

00:21:48.380 You can argue that, but it is a new world

00:21:50.420 order.

00:21:51.980 There's new world order, small caps, and then there's

00:21:54.440 new world order, big caps,

00:21:56.320 as a noun it can mean different things but yeah then he takes off to the world economic forum

00:22:01.960 nigel uh i mean the combination of those things china new world order world economic forum

00:22:10.080 it makes for an eyebrow raising next well it certainly does to the to the point of the speech

00:22:17.740 from the technical point of view it was a good speech it followed the classic aristotelian

00:22:25.760 laying out of, you know, introducing yourself, laying out your facts, making the argument and so

00:22:30.840 forth and arousing ending. So in that sense, it was good. And if you were a part of that very

00:22:38.200 small percentage of people whose conversation is about variable geometry, hegemons and hyperscalers,

00:22:47.340 value-based realism, plurilateral trade, all the kind of things that we talk about when we're just

00:22:53.580 having coffee and wasting time you know you you probably found that highly illuminating something

00:22:58.620 to really think about but there's one thing about that uh and again this in some ways this this is a

00:23:06.700 product of the of the good intentions that went into preparing this speech which i suspect is

00:23:13.580 mr carney's personal speech not a speechwriter prepared thing um but you know he starts off

00:23:20.540 talking about the United States

00:23:25.240 kicking over this old world order

00:23:29.240 that's never going to come back.

00:23:31.260 Well, Russia and China 0.88

00:23:34.220 kicked over the world order

00:23:36.760 that had emerged after the Second World War

00:23:39.080 about 30 years ago.

00:23:42.120 What is it about the United States

00:23:44.820 that it becomes the country

00:23:47.860 that has to uphold this world order that nobody else pays attention to

00:23:53.680 and which the people that it benefits, Canada being among the first of them,

00:23:59.120 don't seem to want to pay for.

00:24:02.680 That he did not address.

00:24:05.580 He should have talked about what our obligations are.

00:24:10.040 He spoke for quite a while about what we were going to do,

00:24:13.880 but we've never done it in 50 years.

00:24:15.940 patrolling the Arctic. We're not patrolling

00:24:18.160 the Arctic. You know, we have

00:24:20.120 a satellite that looks down on it, and

00:24:22.060 if I see something fishy, they

00:24:23.600 tell the Americans.

00:24:25.740 They tell the Americans, you know.

00:24:27.500 I know that was kind of

00:24:29.600 an injection of sarcasm,

00:24:32.060 but the actual fact...

00:24:32.720 We don't even shoot down balloons, you know.

00:24:36.260 So, like, it was

00:24:38.100 heavy on the...

00:24:39.660 It really was a deceptive

00:24:41.880 speech. For all

00:24:43.940 that it was a good speech, and I can

00:24:45.780 see the people who don't think about things very much oh he did do well you know everybody clapped

00:24:51.220 they gave him a standing ovation will harbour got a standing ovation everybody gets a standing ovation

00:24:55.940 i don't i don't think trump did well possibly not but i tell you what trump was on message when he

00:25:02.180 said canada is not grateful we don't pull our weight i would be all for a canadian government

00:25:08.100 that would mr carney says he is that government but frankly i don't believe him well if you're

00:25:13.140 if you're getting a standing ovation at the World Economic Forum, you're probably doing something

00:25:16.700 wrong. But yeah, I think we're saying prove it. Prove it. Yeah. But a lot of words out of this

00:25:23.500 guy. I think Trump is not necessarily destroying. He is knocking over the existing world order,

00:25:29.560 but I think he recognizes it's already dead. It's it's running on the fumes. It's running on the

00:25:36.640 fumes of legacy and it's being paid for and underwritten by America. I think he recognizes

00:25:41.900 it's already done. You have had

00:25:43.840 the incredible economic miracle

00:25:46.140 from a Chinese perspective of

00:25:47.860 China. You have Russia 0.76

00:25:49.960 becoming, recovering confidence

00:25:51.660 and reasserting itself after the collapse

00:25:53.940 of the Soviet Union

00:25:54.860 and Europe

00:25:57.620 in

00:25:59.960 right now before our eyes

00:26:02.000 essentially ceasing to become European

00:26:03.580 so losing that shared sense

00:26:06.060 of history and civilization. Europe is

00:26:07.940 about to become something totally different

00:26:09.980 no longer a reliable

00:26:11.740 civilizational partner

00:26:13.100 so everything is changing already

00:26:15.860 I think he just sees

00:26:17.260 this and says I want to cash out

00:26:19.960 the show is already over

00:26:21.880 a lot of, you know, it's like if you've seen the movie

00:26:23.720 Margin Call, he knows something

00:26:25.860 but the other guys don't

00:26:28.340 and so he's

00:26:29.980 he's

00:26:32.100 betting against, he's betting against the market

00:26:34.140 and they're trying to cash out

00:26:35.660 decouple America from these institutions

00:26:37.740 from its liabilities while he can

00:26:40.020 and in this new

00:26:41.660 world order

00:26:42.520 you know

00:26:44.300 the strong take what they will

00:26:47.200 and the weak suffer what they may

00:26:48.640 exhibit Greenwood

00:26:50.840 it was when he quoted

00:26:53.580 Thucydides to launch his speech

00:26:55.460 that I thought uh oh

00:26:56.800 this is good

00:26:59.860 if I had ever

00:27:01.760 prepared a speech for Harper

00:27:03.560 with a line like that

00:27:05.640 he would not have used it

00:27:08.320 Greenland is perhaps the one country in the world

00:27:10.420 even Canada could have taken

00:27:11.520 barely, but we maybe could have

00:27:14.280 pulled off Greenland

00:27:14.920 we've got more of Doug Deans than they do

00:27:16.600 I'm sure you're right Derek

00:27:19.180 but look, the Yanks owe $38 trillion

00:27:22.600 the interest on that

00:27:24.160 $38 trillion is more than what they spent

00:27:26.440 on their military

00:27:27.180 they have got a very big financial problem

00:27:30.360 and just to expect the Americans to carry

00:27:32.440 on paying the freight

00:27:33.680 for Western security

00:27:35.480 it's time everybody else stepped up.

00:27:38.420 Well, it's not even just that. I think

00:27:39.880 Trump is now fined to let NATO

00:27:42.080 die because

00:27:43.720 NATO had shared

00:27:46.000 security interests and it was a shared

00:27:47.780 civilization. It was essentially the main

00:27:49.760 block of

00:27:51.580 Western countries.

00:27:54.720 And Europe

00:27:55.420 is essentially ceasing to become

00:27:58.120 Western. Right now. This is not a theoretical

00:28:00.120 thing. This is not down the road.

00:28:02.200 It's right now. Ceasing to become Western.

00:28:04.200 and so at that point

00:28:06.840 well if and it's scarcely

00:28:08.680 democratic if you know if you look in

00:28:10.240 Britain, Germany

00:28:11.960 any of these countries you can be jailed for

00:28:14.420 offensive tweets or criticizing government

00:28:16.340 officials so that they

00:28:18.440 no longer share civilization in common

00:28:20.120 they no longer share values

00:28:22.440 around free speech

00:28:23.360 so

00:28:24.760 this leaves America

00:28:27.960 without any real

00:28:29.700 connection to it

00:28:32.580 So Europe is going to now do its own thing. It is probably going to go under. In my lifetime, Europe is almost certainly going under. So why should America underwrite it? Maybe you can argue it had an interest to do so during the Cold War. And during that time, European countries did pay more for the military, still less than the States. They needed the States to keep the Soviets out. But at this point, what interest does America have in actually propping up Europe?

00:28:56.120 Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. I regret the passing of the old order, but sometimes you've got to face the fact that we have not done what we needed to do to preserve it. We have relied upon the Americans, and those days have done.

00:29:13.280 I was waiting with the phone in my hand for Trump to land in Tule after he'd been in Davos and sort of just to say, well, here I am. But he didn't. I can't imagine why.

00:29:26.120 yeah okay well let's uh bring it closer to home here uh lindsey uh so we had you know there was

00:29:36.000 the big teacher strike the teachers are offered a pretty fantastic deal i was actually quite angry

00:29:40.720 at the ucp for offering them as much as they did uh far above raises far above what people in the

00:29:46.720 private sector are getting uh and of course if you're a teacher unless you diddle a kid you've

00:29:51.700 got job security for life, pretty much. And even then, the ATA will defend you to keep your

00:29:56.160 diddling job. But they were not negotiating. The UCP legislated them back to work and used

00:30:05.940 the notwithstanding clause to essentially court challenge proof it. It's done. The unions lost

00:30:13.060 their minds, and they say, well, we're launching a recall against every single member who voted for

00:30:19.620 that back-to-work legislation, which is every single

00:30:21.560 member of the UCP.

00:30:23.580 And target

00:30:25.580 number one was the Education Minister,

00:30:27.740 Demetrio Nicolaitis,

00:30:29.580 Calgary-Bo. Calgary-Bo was either

00:30:31.400 the absolute closest or

00:30:33.180 damn near about the absolute closest

00:30:35.820 constituency in the last 0.98

00:30:37.620 Alberta election. The UCP

00:30:39.280 very narrowly won it

00:30:40.600 against the NDP. So if

00:30:43.200 they were going to have a chance

00:30:44.760 anywhere in Alberta, it was

00:30:47.460 going to be Calgary-Bo against

00:30:49.200 Dimitri Nicolaitis. Update us on how well that's gone. Yeah, it hasn't gone so well. So, well,

00:30:56.220 depends on what side that you're on, certainly. But, you know, when this, some of us were really

00:31:00.580 busy with the municipal election that you may have heard about in the fall. And, you know,

00:31:04.800 when this first came out, I thought, oh, UCP is in trouble. Like, this is bad news, blues, right?

00:31:10.080 I mean, there is, there are gatherings, there's, there's marches, there's, it didn't look good at

00:31:16.620 all for the UCP but timing is everything in politics and this has blown up like this has

00:31:24.440 blown up like like a Led Zeppelin like an atomic bomb this has blown up for the NDP because it

00:31:30.520 became so angry and so vitriolic so quickly and they fell so short so there's 26 recalls the

00:31:38.700 recall campaigns and the only one that I think probably from the UCP's perspective that they

00:31:44.240 were legitimately worried about was the education minister was Demetrius

00:31:47.480 Nicolaitis and that's fallen, that date has now passed, right?

00:31:51.080 They were, they, they needed to reach the 60% threshold and they, I actually,

00:31:56.420 we'd have to look up the numbers, but they were very, they were thousands short.

00:32:00.140 6,500 they got, 16,000 they needed.

00:32:03.140 Yes.

00:32:03.480 10,000 short.

00:32:05.480 I mean, that's not just like, Hey, good effort guys.

00:32:08.020 Right?

00:32:08.220 Like that's like, this was a total bomb, total failure.

00:32:10.900 And I mean, let's be honest about the true cost to the taxpayer, right?

00:32:14.260 Like it costs a lot of money if these recalls even went through.

00:32:17.040 So there's a bit of an irony here, right?

00:32:19.000 Like recall legislation is UCP legislation.

00:32:21.460 And it did backfire on them initially in the sense that, you know, it gave their opponents this big megaphone, but it also acted as the real world stress test.

00:32:29.500 So, and the law held and recalls hard and that's probably by design.

00:32:32.800 So the problem for the NDP is they really overestimated how transferable this union anger would be to the general electorate, and the timing's really bad for them.

00:32:44.740 Now, if this was like minutes away from a set date provincial election, I would say, you know, the Conservatives would have been in a lot more trouble.

00:32:52.240 But there's so much time to rebuild between now and whether it's this coming fall or whether it's in 2027.

00:32:57.880 and there's so much time to rebuild and this just looks like a bunch of angry union activists and

00:33:04.120 it doesn't even look like the grassroots had anything to do with this. So I think it shows

00:33:10.040 a lot. So this showed that there was intensity without reach, that there's loud activism that

00:33:15.800 just didn't translate beyond a very narrow base and it's a good news story for the UCP

00:33:21.320 and it's all what they do with this. I do want to say a little bit in defense of teachers,

00:33:25.960 I want to say that I'm a huge proponent for choice in education, right? I believe the funding

00:33:30.760 follows the student. There's a lot of misconceptions out there that, you know, this funding, private

00:33:38.280 education funding, like there's no, it doesn't cost, there's no tuition for you, like there's

00:33:43.240 school fees, but there's no tuition for you to go to charter schools. The reason that charter schools

00:33:47.400 and independent schools, and as a parent who has one public, one in Catholic, and one in independent

00:33:51.400 school. I will tell you which one, hands down, is the best school, and that is the independent

00:33:55.900 school. Is that your situation? I have one each. I truly do. I had to pull one from the Catholic 1.00

00:34:01.660 program, not against the Catholic institution, but my child has some unique challenges where

00:34:08.140 she needed some more supports and she needed to be in a different kind of program. These

00:34:14.400 independent schools are phenomenal. I am not a wealthy person, and there's this stigma that

00:34:20.000 still, still, still the advocates can't break through that independent schools, charter schools

00:34:24.760 are for the wealthy. They aren't. Most of the students are not wealthy. They're not from wealthy

00:34:29.440 families. So let's just, let's just refer to just very quickly. Let's refer. We're not talking about

00:34:35.360 charter schools. No, we're not. But anyways, that's the anger machine that comes behind this. So let's

00:34:39.960 have a little bit of compassion for, yes, we know that schools are overcrowded. We know teachers need

00:34:44.160 more resources, not necessarily more pay. They got that out right off the hop. But at the end of the

00:34:48.260 day, this comes down to big federal immigration problems where there's

00:34:51.980 hordes of people coming into this province and all of our systems are strained. 1.00

00:34:55.520 So if you want to blame somebody, maybe don't necessarily blame the UCP

00:34:58.820 government and maybe look to the federal policies that I know it lacks to happen.

00:35:01.940 So back to recall.

00:35:09.240 The one wearing the big clown suit and all this is Gil McGowan.

00:35:14.060 When the teachers were ordered back to work, he blew a gasket.

00:35:17.500 he called press conferences general strike general strike he's getting he's talking to all his unions

00:35:23.120 are going to be a general strike going to overthrow the government and it was some pretty slick recall

00:35:28.160 stuff but you know i got handed in my mailbox printed out stuff and it wasn't cheap and it was

00:35:34.060 all i'm sure afl money i'm sure if you're a union person you're not overly thrilled with the way

00:35:40.060 your dues have been spent on this allegedly allegedly uh but if you're you know he he he

00:35:48.020 played in he went all in he went all in on this and he was confident and it's just blown up in

00:35:53.620 his face and it was a it was a dismal failure i think as we've been predicting here since day one

00:35:59.600 yeah now if there is anything they get out of it it's that uh now the nep is denied they had

00:36:05.900 anything to do with this okay sure um but it's you know it's kind of like the independence

00:36:12.240 movement the independence movement is not the ucp but you know in the venn diagram of the

00:36:16.780 individuals involved it overlaps a lot right so uh the ndp has claimed it was not involved

00:36:23.480 yes on an official organizational level i'm sure nenshi was not saying okay go knock on these

00:36:29.420 doors here but on the personnel level it's the same people um but there is something they do

00:36:36.860 get out of this you are mobilizing organizations of volunteers in advance of a campaign

00:36:42.720 and you're building lists of identical identifiable voters so if someone's willing

00:36:47.980 to sign a recall campaign against the ucp mla there is a strong likelihood that they are at

00:36:53.160 least open to voting for the ndp or not for the ucp in the next election so there is something

00:36:59.020 to be gotten out of this, out of these

00:37:00.760 failed campaigns. If you say you did

00:37:02.960 a Citizens Initiative referendum

00:37:05.160 petition, same kind of thing. Even if you

00:37:07.120 didn't hit your threshold, you're building lists,

00:37:09.320 you're building organization,

00:37:11.160 you're raising money, someone's getting

00:37:12.780 someone's raising, someone's getting paid out of this.

00:37:15.800 So, I mean, there is some

00:37:17.040 political and electoral benefit out of it.

00:37:21.220 We're not seeing the kind of egg

00:37:23.060 on face that one

00:37:25.160 would expect if the legacy

00:37:26.960 media was being fair and even

00:37:28.920 he even keeled about this kind of thing you know it was front page news over and over and over hey

00:37:34.200 danielle smith is being recalled in her writing guys i know brooks she ain't getting recalled

00:37:39.720 it's not bloody happening but it is newsworthy that you know the camp you know those petitions

00:37:45.160 were being started it's newsworthy but this was front page headline everywhere it seems to be

00:37:50.200 getting downplayed quite a bit nigel uh now that these things are epically failing yes well of 0.91

00:37:57.000 course, there is a tendency within the news media to look for patterns in events. If Demetrius

00:38:02.920 Nicolaitis is getting recalled, this person is getting recalled. Oh, we've got a momentum here.

00:38:08.520 Daniel Smith is getting recalled. It's everywhere, and then all of a sudden it isn't, and the story

00:38:13.800 falls apart, and they leave it alone. It happens in so many different fields, and some of them

00:38:19.560 aren't political um but uh are we talking about media bias here or are we talking about i'm just

00:38:27.000 saying how the media started the recall campaigns but uh i mean they've failed tremendously uh yet

00:38:33.160 they're there's egg on their face but they're not they're not getting the kind of uh embarrassment

00:38:38.040 that they probably deserve for failing in every single riding i think i think this is actually

00:38:42.760 very promising for the ucp for all the obvious reasons but also for this other reason they have

00:38:49.960 been the subject of a propaganda attack now for more than a year with the unions and the medical

00:38:57.800 associations relentlessly broadcasting their opinions about the way that the smith government

00:39:05.880 is handling health you can't turn on the local radio here without it'll be a message from the

00:39:12.360 the nurses or it'll be a message from the doctors. And it's consistently anti-Smith. Nobody speaks

00:39:17.740 up for them. The truth of the matter is that it's an incredibly difficult file, which they all know,

00:39:25.660 and that the Smith government has made some important changes of policy, which they also

00:39:31.920 know and deeply regret because it's their ox that's getting bored. The public doesn't really

00:39:36.820 get into it that deeply. So my point on this is that if the public didn't respond to the recall

00:39:43.660 campaigns in, what was it, 21, 22? 26. 26. If the public in 26 marginal seats is not responding to

00:39:53.740 a recall campaign, I have some hopes that they are going to ignore this relentless propaganda,

00:40:01.720 which is very misleading

00:40:03.680 not to the

00:40:04.980 advantage of the UCP

00:40:07.220 the UCP is going to have all the problems they want

00:40:09.540 and remember their stated objective was to

00:40:11.560 recall every single MLA who voted

00:40:13.600 to legislate the teachers

00:40:15.660 back to work, so that's 50 odd

00:40:17.320 53 something like that

00:40:19.480 every single one

00:40:21.100 they got petitions certified, which doesn't take a lot

00:40:23.820 but they got petitions certified at

00:40:25.100 20 odd

00:40:26.000 and in the very

00:40:27.900 best chance

00:40:30.220 I admit even I thought maybe they'd have a chance

00:40:32.900 because it was such a close marginal seat

00:40:34.180 and he's the education minister

00:40:35.420 they got blown

00:40:38.700 out of the water

00:40:39.800 and also like how hard is it to get someone to sign a petition

00:40:42.960 like you know

00:40:44.100 Canadians are so polite

00:40:46.640 hey would you sign this petition

00:40:48.180 sure what's it about

00:40:49.860 I don't know whatever

00:40:51.240 you're out here in the cold

00:40:53.500 and you're working I'll sign your petition

00:40:55.880 that's a lot of people saying

00:40:57.740 trigger words right

00:40:59.300 Like, do you care about kids? Do you care about, I think, can we just touch on the fire start of

00:41:02.980 this whole thing, which is the notwithstanding clause or the use of it. And there was, there's

00:41:06.740 so much out there and, and maybe you, the UCP could have perhaps done a little bit better of

00:41:11.380 a job at communicating how and why they used it. Right. So at the end of the day, my general

00:41:16.980 understanding of this is they, they used it because the like, I mean, our kids were out of

00:41:20.980 school for what, three, four weeks of this, it was a ludicrous amount of time. It was very difficult

00:41:25.380 to juggle that period for most parents, I know myself included. But the government said, listen,

00:41:29.960 if we don't use this, this is going to get tied up in courts forever and cost a boatload of money.

00:41:34.920 So they implemented that. And very quickly, just some quick stats for people to keep in mind,

00:41:39.080 and this comes from my friends at the Alberta Parents Union, when it comes to the direct

00:41:42.720 impacts on children from prolonged strikes, lower immediate test scores, increased absenteeism,

00:41:48.800 reduce the lifelong education students attempt to receive, harm lifelong earnings for students,

00:41:53.920 and hurt immediate earnings for the family of the student it's incredibly disruptive we learned all

00:41:59.520 this through the pandemic era teachers need to be in the classroom with our kids and the government

00:42:04.080 really i don't think they had any other choice yeah okay all right that's it for there we'll

00:42:09.200 put a pin in our main headlines go to our parting shots lindsay is this your very first time on the

00:42:13.920 pipeline this is the second time you pulled me in really quick last time i subbed in for query

00:42:17.760 okay so last year but we didn't have parting shots then so this is your first parting shot

00:42:20.960 so you get to go first oh man um i think i'm going to circle it back to what i talked about

00:42:26.880 on the show earlier today which is just stop it's okay okay well what is the party it's okay uh

00:42:33.280 well here we'll go first okay it's something we didn't talk about okay it's something we didn't

00:42:37.440 talk about let me show let me let me hear you my parting shot i was on the uh cruising the internet

00:42:42.720 this morning i came across uh michelle rempel on x and i felt like people people need to hear this so

00:42:49.760 Look, Carney's speech invoked the words of Vaclav Havel in that book, The Power of the Powerless.

00:42:57.080 We can do politics and we pick up on Havel.

00:43:00.660 And the anecdote goes that Mr. Carney cited Havel's greengrocer who refused to display the regime's propaganda sign

00:43:09.620 to argue that Canada and the other middle powers must reject superpower incursions on our sovereignty.

00:43:17.740 Yet for the past decade, it is actually the liberal government

00:43:21.640 that has asked every Canadian to hang a deceptive sign in their windows,

00:43:27.160 one that argued everything was fine and that ignored a decade of liberal policies

00:43:33.780 that leave us with an unprepared military, underdeveloped natural resources

00:43:38.680 and seemingly untouchable internal trade barriers.

00:43:42.820 And I thought Michelle had it and I would like everybody else to get it too.

00:43:46.800 I think one of the bigger issues, and it's going to become bigger and bigger and bigger, is euthanasia in Canada, medical aid in dying.

00:43:57.640 And I just want to throw out to my colleague Nigel here, who this week published a big report in the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms, a bit of a mouthful, about the subject.

00:44:10.240 So, Nigel, where can people go and read your report?

00:44:12.540 Thank you very much. And look at Linda Slobodian's work on this as well in our files.

00:44:18.220 I've got one. I just want to throw to Alberta independence movement. This has a lot of moving parts right now. There's a lot of pro-Separatist people out there. There's a lot of people are somewhere in the middle. There's people who are very good conservatives, I would consider, who are really fighting for a united Canada. So everybody be nice to each other out there. There's a lot of evolving parts. This doesn't have to be an us versus them.

00:44:38.800 Watch out for labels, pay attention, but do not underestimate this movement that's happening right now. It is a very organized effort with a lot of grassroots people working behind the scenes, and hopefully we will somehow see democracy in action as a result at the end of the day, however this shapes out.

00:44:55.740 I was going to talk about how Ezra Levant of Rebel News kind of, you know, did the, I don't mean this pejoratively, did the kind of the ambush, came up with a mic, asked him a question because it was right after, you know, another major court defeat for the federal government and Trudeau's time when they invoked the Emergencies or War Measures Act against the Freedom Convoy.

00:45:20.380 and Trudeau had nothing to say about that.

00:45:23.240 But I got better.

00:45:24.540 It just came to me. I've been thinking about

00:45:26.520 this for a few days now.

00:45:28.680 I mentioned how

00:45:29.760 the feds are now trying again to go and

00:45:32.400 confiscate the firearms of people 0.96

00:45:34.120 of law-binding Canadians.

00:45:36.200 And they say assault-style firearms,

00:45:38.380 military, assault rifles, etc.

00:45:40.660 None of them are

00:45:42.020 except for one, which they

00:45:44.220 unbanned because a certain group

00:45:46.180 they don't want to anger uses them. 0.99

00:45:49.240 But this comes

00:45:50.260 literally days after the Globe and Mail

00:45:52.500 got its hands on a report

00:45:54.100 from the Department of National Defence

00:45:55.780 about kind of gaming out

00:45:58.180 a hypothetical American invasion of Canada

00:46:00.720 and it was realistic enough to know that 0.99

00:46:02.580 yeah, we can't do shit. 0.94

00:46:04.820 I mean, even if Canada had a serious military 0.99

00:46:06.380 it couldn't do shit. 0.96

00:46:07.720 Because we have no military 1.00

00:46:08.920 we could do even less shit. 0.99

00:46:10.820 But it says, best case scenario is 1.00

00:46:13.360 Canadians could fight a Jerula war.

00:46:16.520 Like the Mahajidine 1.00

00:46:18.020 or something like that.

00:46:20.080 hit-and-run tactics um so our we have no military and our backup plan is a guerrilla war with the

00:46:28.840 irregular soldiers taking their own firearms to make hit-and-run attacks against the american

00:46:33.820 invader with what guns do they propose we do that so i think maybe they're going to confiscate all

00:46:41.340 our guns and then they'll have some drop-off points say in event of an american invade break

00:46:46.460 classic case of American invasion, you can

00:46:48.540 come get your guns back to defend the regime

00:46:50.700 that took your guns against the regime that would probably

00:46:52.600 give them back to you.

00:46:54.880 Great plan for national defense.

00:46:58.740 All right.

00:47:00.600 I mean, this would make a great

00:47:02.420 kind of dark comedy, I think.

00:47:05.100 Like a sequel to Canadian

00:47:06.600 Bacon. Americans do invade, 0.94

00:47:08.820 and Canadians go to get their

00:47:10.520 weapons to fight the American invader, and we remember,

00:47:12.480 oh, our own regime took them from us.

00:47:14.440 I was wondering who's going to be the brave Canadian

00:47:16.620 who jumps on a horse and rides somewhere

00:47:18.900 and says, the Americans are coming.

00:47:22.180 Paul Revere

00:47:23.000 in reverse.

00:47:23.940 Alright, that's it. Nigel,

00:47:27.000 Lizzie, Dave, thank you very much.

00:47:29.000 And John, right in the studio, thank you.

00:47:31.500 Thank all of you for joining us

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Western Standard - January 22, 2026

Canada needs ICE

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