Canada’s defense industry praises Mark Carney
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Former Conservative Party Leader Aaron O'Toole speaks to the Kanzik National Security Conference in Ottawa on the Canadian government's defence strategy under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. He talks about the government's new strategy, including the purchase of five new AWACS surveillance aircraft, and the Swedish company that won the bid to purchase surveillance technology from Bombardier and Saab.
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I'm Willie Temtem with the Western Standard here in Ottawa at the Kanzik National Security
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Conference where I am speaking to the industry leaders and former and current politicians on
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how they feel on national defense prospects under Mark Carney versus that of previous
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Liberal government Justin Trudeau. I spoke to former Conservative leader Aaron O'Toole and
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he gave me a lot of optimistic thoughts. Here's what he had to say. Thank you for speaking with
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Aaron, what do you make of Carney's government approach on defense as difference to Trudeau?
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Well, the Trudeau government had no defense plan and certainly almost didn't like defense as an
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issue. So Carney is a sea change. Many of the things that we advocated for as conservatives
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are now being pushed. You better pay for our troops, better equipment, a stronger role within
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nato the two percent target so i i have to give compliments to the government on making those
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commitments i say that more as a veteran than i do even as a former politician but the key thing
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will be whether all the good words and positive rhetoric turn into concrete action that remains
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to be seen the defense industrial strategy looks good but we have to support a lot of the canadian
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businesses that right now say they can't get a contract in canada well look given what's
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happening with president trump i i think we need to be more self-reliant we have to depend on
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ourselves more and what's crazy as a former aviator on sea kings as a navigator and then
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i've worked in industry as a lawyer for defense companies we can actually do a lot more ourselves
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we got a bit lazy relying on the us for too much so now we're still going to buy a lot of great
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kit from the United States. I want us to eventually buy the F-35. I think that's the best aircraft
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as a fifth generation fighter. But the AWACS plane that yesterday was Saab and Bombardier,
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that actually, their product is great too. So I do think there's an ability for us to do more
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with other NATO allies, not just the U.S. But we will also develop Canadian solutions
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so that you're still going to see a lot of U.S. defense equipment in the Canadian Armed Forces,
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no question but we need to do more ourselves and we need to look at other partners because the u.s
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isn't as reliable as they used to be so in terms of your platform not to be too political here but
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how close is mark carney to what a conservative government under you would have looked like
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you're going to get me into trouble with that look on on nato two percent spending on the arctic
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on better pay for our men and women in uniform on a strong and robust fiscal policy really a foreign
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policy where canada is a leader amongst middle nations all of that stuff conservatives talked
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about both under stephen harper and certainly under me i you know was a veteran so defense
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issues and military families remain a top priority for me mark carney's doing a pretty good job in
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those areas i think the conservatives need to hold him to account because i think the challenge with
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the liberals is they like great announcements they love the glowing words mr trudeau was very
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good at that stuff, but almost zero follow through. So that will be the test of the Prime
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Minister is whether some of the early moves can be backed up with a long term sustainable
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plan. We have to be able to stand by our allies, like Ukraine, like Israel, and use our influence
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behind the scenes. If we think they're making a move that's inappropriate, we make that
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decision based on our national interest and our values, not based on what's trending on
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TikTok or on Twitter. We have to realize that a lot of those things that are trending on those
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platforms are foreign oriented and they're meant to cause pressure and cause a breakdown in social
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cohesion in Canada. So I think if we keep our interests, our economic and our security interests
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along with our values, our respect for human rights, for free speech, fundamental principles,
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I think we can carve a foreign policy that reflects Canada and its diversity, but our
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core interests and values. Well I also spoke to industry leaders including Saab,
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the Swedish company that successfully won the bidding war yesterday. Mark Carney
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announced that they would be buying some surveillance aircraft technology and
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that they'll be applying it to Bombardieri aircrafts. I spoke to an
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expert and spokesperson from Saab, Robert Hewson. Here's what he had to say
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about the device and their prospects working with the government of Canada. I
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think yesterday's announcement was a remarkable dramatic step forward in the
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strategic relationship between sweden and canada that was already a pretty strong relationship
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for example we have cooperated on this aircraft program the global eye for many many years it's
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built on a canadian aircraft and what we saw yesterday was an extension of that
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to the degree that canada will now buy and operate that aircraft itself and together we will move the
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production and development and maintenance and sustainment of that aircraft, the Global Eye,
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into Canada. So there will be a new production line from which Canada will take its aircraft
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and the objective is to make Canada a manufacturing hub for future exports of the Global Eye.
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What will happen for the new Canadian programme is that work will be transferred to Canada,
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so there will be a new production line in canada that will service the canadian order and will
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support the canadian aircraft but after that it will become part of the global production capacity
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that we have for this aircraft there is a big export market for globalize uh possibly more
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than saab can handle on its own at the moment which is great news for canada because that
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means that canada will have a pivotal role in building these aircraft for the international
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market for years to come i also spoke to british company babcock that has a presence in canada for
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about 20 or odd years almost and they share their thoughts on how they feel about canada's elbows
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up approach and how that could possibly benefit their prospects along with their view on the
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changing regimes in canada on national defense and what we're here to do is continue to grow
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the industrial capability that we have on those contracts but also leveraging our global
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expertise to continue to support the military other government departments and defense security space
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given the fact that the current government's rhetoric is speaking about a transition from
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u.s reliance to other countries and other allies given the trade issues that our countries are
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experiencing right now how does lockheed martin feel about that in terms of defense procurement
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prospects in canada so lockheed martin canada has a really long history in canada that goes
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back probably 80 plus years and i personally have been a user of lockheed martin systems
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when i served in the royal canadian navy for 30 plus years and it's a great privilege now to serve
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in lockheed martin canada where we take some of that technology that belongs to canada we have
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the intellectual property in canada with shared with the government of canada and we're now
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exporting that to other navies that see what our navy has been has been successful with doing and
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and managing their very complex cerebral process systems that aid decision-making with the Royal Canadian Navy.
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Now, I also interestingly caught up with the former chief of the MI6, that's the British CIA, the British Intelligence Service.
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I asked him a question about his belief on the risks and concerns around Western countries
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and their ability to recruit from their largely diverse and immigrant-filled populations,
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specifically on the issues of immigration, sectarianism, tribalism, religiously inspired
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ideology. I tried my best to get him to say something on the record, of course, and he gave
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me a little bit of time. So here's a bit about that to wrap up the video. Good afternoon, Willie
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Tam Tam with the Western Standard. How important do you think it is for defense, national security,
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and intelligence institutions in considering in their recruitment strategy, religiously inspired
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ideology, sectarian and ethnic hatred. So I think primarily for security services that are having
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to deal with threats, you don't make a judgment in terms of what ideology is driving a desire to
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commit acts of terrorism. You just identify people within your society who are determined
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on committing acts of terrorism and you do your best to investigate them and disrupt that activity
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so it's pretty agnostic of the the drivers behind it it's about keeping people safe so you know
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those threats and the threats of terrorism take a variety of forms in different places in my own
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country there's a real mix of clearly radical islamist terrorism there's also far-right
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extremism which tips over into terrorism from time to time and you also increasingly the head
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of mi5 has made this point most of the threat to life activity which has been disrupted by mi5 in
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the last few years in the uk has come out of iranian backed activity so all of them are
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terrorism you just deal with them in a way that is consistent with legal norms and you try and
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your people safe outside of the terrorism aspect specifically when it comes to recruitment of
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personnel for security institutions in a multicultural diverse society i see what you
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mean yeah how do you manage that how i see what you mean so you're you're talking about the people
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who join mi6 or join csis all kinds of security national security and intelligence and military
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institutions that deal with these threats yes scrutinize their recruitment and protecting
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their integrity of being oh i see what you mean so it's it's a very rigorous process to join one
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of these organizations you have to go through a lot of checks to make sure that you are a democrat
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that you believe in the rule of law and that you have the right type of you know ethics and
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personality to do this work successfully we work really hard on that it's also really important
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that your security and intelligence organizations represent the country they serve and i spent a lot
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of time when i was in my job trying to make sure that we in our recruitment strategies we reached
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out and touched those communities and made clear to them that mi6 would be a place for them and
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they would feel included and at home in those organizations well there you have it folks it
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was a very interesting action-packed day a lot of interesting voices on the ground here in ottawa
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and of course a lot of optimism now it could be cautious optimism from some stakeholders but from
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others it seems like the days up ahead are better than the ones before if you guys enjoyed the video
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