Western Standard - June 01, 2026


Canada’s defense industry praises Mark Carney


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Former Conservative Party Leader Aaron O'Toole speaks to the Kanzik National Security Conference in Ottawa on the Canadian government's defence strategy under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. He talks about the government's new strategy, including the purchase of five new AWACS surveillance aircraft, and the Swedish company that won the bid to purchase surveillance technology from Bombardier and Saab.

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00:00:00.000 I'm Willie Temtem with the Western Standard here in Ottawa at the Kanzik National Security
00:00:08.280 Conference where I am speaking to the industry leaders and former and current politicians on
00:00:12.720 how they feel on national defense prospects under Mark Carney versus that of previous
00:00:18.560 Liberal government Justin Trudeau. I spoke to former Conservative leader Aaron O'Toole and
00:00:22.680 he gave me a lot of optimistic thoughts. Here's what he had to say. Thank you for speaking with
00:00:27.900 Aaron, what do you make of Carney's government approach on defense as difference to Trudeau?
00:00:34.460 Well, the Trudeau government had no defense plan and certainly almost didn't like defense as an
00:00:40.140 issue. So Carney is a sea change. Many of the things that we advocated for as conservatives
00:00:47.820 are now being pushed. You better pay for our troops, better equipment, a stronger role within
00:00:54.140 nato the two percent target so i i have to give compliments to the government on making those
00:00:59.500 commitments i say that more as a veteran than i do even as a former politician but the key thing
00:01:05.500 will be whether all the good words and positive rhetoric turn into concrete action that remains
00:01:12.860 to be seen the defense industrial strategy looks good but we have to support a lot of the canadian
00:01:18.780 businesses that right now say they can't get a contract in canada well look given what's
00:01:23.900 happening with president trump i i think we need to be more self-reliant we have to depend on
00:01:29.340 ourselves more and what's crazy as a former aviator on sea kings as a navigator and then
00:01:35.740 i've worked in industry as a lawyer for defense companies we can actually do a lot more ourselves
00:01:41.180 we got a bit lazy relying on the us for too much so now we're still going to buy a lot of great
00:01:45.900 kit from the United States. I want us to eventually buy the F-35. I think that's the best aircraft
00:01:51.600 as a fifth generation fighter. But the AWACS plane that yesterday was Saab and Bombardier,
00:01:58.220 that actually, their product is great too. So I do think there's an ability for us to do more
00:02:03.360 with other NATO allies, not just the U.S. But we will also develop Canadian solutions
00:02:08.580 so that you're still going to see a lot of U.S. defense equipment in the Canadian Armed Forces,
00:02:13.500 no question but we need to do more ourselves and we need to look at other partners because the u.s
00:02:19.500 isn't as reliable as they used to be so in terms of your platform not to be too political here but
00:02:25.420 how close is mark carney to what a conservative government under you would have looked like
00:02:29.420 you're going to get me into trouble with that look on on nato two percent spending on the arctic
00:02:36.140 on better pay for our men and women in uniform on a strong and robust fiscal policy really a foreign
00:02:42.940 policy where canada is a leader amongst middle nations all of that stuff conservatives talked
00:02:48.840 about both under stephen harper and certainly under me i you know was a veteran so defense
00:02:54.460 issues and military families remain a top priority for me mark carney's doing a pretty good job in
00:03:00.280 those areas i think the conservatives need to hold him to account because i think the challenge with
00:03:06.220 the liberals is they like great announcements they love the glowing words mr trudeau was very
00:03:12.380 good at that stuff, but almost zero follow through. So that will be the test of the Prime
00:03:16.320 Minister is whether some of the early moves can be backed up with a long term sustainable
00:03:21.040 plan. We have to be able to stand by our allies, like Ukraine, like Israel, and use our influence
00:03:29.360 behind the scenes. If we think they're making a move that's inappropriate, we make that
00:03:35.960 decision based on our national interest and our values, not based on what's trending on
00:03:40.040 TikTok or on Twitter. We have to realize that a lot of those things that are trending on those
00:03:44.500 platforms are foreign oriented and they're meant to cause pressure and cause a breakdown in social 0.93
00:03:51.580 cohesion in Canada. So I think if we keep our interests, our economic and our security interests 0.99
00:03:57.160 along with our values, our respect for human rights, for free speech, fundamental principles,
00:04:02.740 I think we can carve a foreign policy that reflects Canada and its diversity, but our
00:04:09.020 core interests and values. Well I also spoke to industry leaders including Saab,
00:04:13.520 the Swedish company that successfully won the bidding war yesterday. Mark Carney
00:04:17.760 announced that they would be buying some surveillance aircraft technology and
00:04:21.280 that they'll be applying it to Bombardieri aircrafts. I spoke to an
00:04:24.020 expert and spokesperson from Saab, Robert Hewson. Here's what he had to say
00:04:27.740 about the device and their prospects working with the government of Canada. I
00:04:31.400 think yesterday's announcement was a remarkable dramatic step forward in the
00:04:37.400 strategic relationship between sweden and canada that was already a pretty strong relationship
00:04:43.880 for example we have cooperated on this aircraft program the global eye for many many years it's
00:04:50.760 built on a canadian aircraft and what we saw yesterday was an extension of that
00:04:57.480 to the degree that canada will now buy and operate that aircraft itself and together we will move the
00:05:04.680 production and development and maintenance and sustainment of that aircraft, the Global Eye,
00:05:10.440 into Canada. So there will be a new production line from which Canada will take its aircraft
00:05:16.120 and the objective is to make Canada a manufacturing hub for future exports of the Global Eye.
00:05:24.360 What will happen for the new Canadian programme is that work will be transferred to Canada,
00:05:30.680 so there will be a new production line in canada that will service the canadian order and will
00:05:36.520 support the canadian aircraft but after that it will become part of the global production capacity
00:05:44.600 that we have for this aircraft there is a big export market for globalize uh possibly more
00:05:50.120 than saab can handle on its own at the moment which is great news for canada because that
00:05:55.000 means that canada will have a pivotal role in building these aircraft for the international
00:05:59.880 market for years to come i also spoke to british company babcock that has a presence in canada for
00:06:05.480 about 20 or odd years almost and they share their thoughts on how they feel about canada's elbows
00:06:11.000 up approach and how that could possibly benefit their prospects along with their view on the
00:06:15.080 changing regimes in canada on national defense and what we're here to do is continue to grow
00:06:21.400 the industrial capability that we have on those contracts but also leveraging our global
00:06:26.520 expertise to continue to support the military other government departments and defense security space
00:06:32.680 given the fact that the current government's rhetoric is speaking about a transition from
00:06:37.560 u.s reliance to other countries and other allies given the trade issues that our countries are
00:06:42.680 experiencing right now how does lockheed martin feel about that in terms of defense procurement
00:06:46.280 prospects in canada so lockheed martin canada has a really long history in canada that goes
00:06:52.360 back probably 80 plus years and i personally have been a user of lockheed martin systems
00:06:58.280 when i served in the royal canadian navy for 30 plus years and it's a great privilege now to serve
00:07:03.160 in lockheed martin canada where we take some of that technology that belongs to canada we have
00:07:07.560 the intellectual property in canada with shared with the government of canada and we're now
00:07:12.360 exporting that to other navies that see what our navy has been has been successful with doing and
00:07:16.680 and managing their very complex cerebral process systems that aid decision-making with the Royal Canadian Navy.
00:07:23.420 Now, I also interestingly caught up with the former chief of the MI6, that's the British CIA, the British Intelligence Service.
00:07:30.220 I asked him a question about his belief on the risks and concerns around Western countries
00:07:36.960 and their ability to recruit from their largely diverse and immigrant-filled populations,
00:07:41.900 specifically on the issues of immigration, sectarianism, tribalism, religiously inspired
00:07:48.160 ideology. I tried my best to get him to say something on the record, of course, and he gave
00:07:52.860 me a little bit of time. So here's a bit about that to wrap up the video. Good afternoon, Willie
00:07:57.400 Tam Tam with the Western Standard. How important do you think it is for defense, national security,
00:08:03.440 and intelligence institutions in considering in their recruitment strategy, religiously inspired
00:08:09.860 ideology, sectarian and ethnic hatred. So I think primarily for security services that are having
00:08:20.280 to deal with threats, you don't make a judgment in terms of what ideology is driving a desire to
00:08:30.180 commit acts of terrorism. You just identify people within your society who are determined
00:08:36.440 on committing acts of terrorism and you do your best to investigate them and disrupt that activity
00:08:42.420 so it's pretty agnostic of the the drivers behind it it's about keeping people safe so you know
00:08:50.120 those threats and the threats of terrorism take a variety of forms in different places in my own
00:08:55.160 country there's a real mix of clearly radical islamist terrorism there's also far-right
00:09:04.500 extremism which tips over into terrorism from time to time and you also increasingly the head
00:09:11.160 of mi5 has made this point most of the threat to life activity which has been disrupted by mi5 in 0.87
00:09:19.420 the last few years in the uk has come out of iranian backed activity so all of them are
00:09:25.780 terrorism you just deal with them in a way that is consistent with legal norms and you try and
00:09:33.240 your people safe outside of the terrorism aspect specifically when it comes to recruitment of
00:09:38.840 personnel for security institutions in a multicultural diverse society i see what you
00:09:43.720 mean yeah how do you manage that how i see what you mean so you're you're talking about the people
00:09:49.000 who join mi6 or join csis all kinds of security national security and intelligence and military
00:09:56.200 institutions that deal with these threats yes scrutinize their recruitment and protecting
00:10:01.640 their integrity of being oh i see what you mean so it's it's a very rigorous process to join one
00:10:07.240 of these organizations you have to go through a lot of checks to make sure that you are a democrat
00:10:13.960 that you believe in the rule of law and that you have the right type of you know ethics and
00:10:19.240 personality to do this work successfully we work really hard on that it's also really important
00:10:25.000 that your security and intelligence organizations represent the country they serve and i spent a lot
00:10:31.160 of time when i was in my job trying to make sure that we in our recruitment strategies we reached
00:10:37.000 out and touched those communities and made clear to them that mi6 would be a place for them and
00:10:42.600 they would feel included and at home in those organizations well there you have it folks it
00:10:47.400 was a very interesting action-packed day a lot of interesting voices on the ground here in ottawa
00:10:52.120 and of course a lot of optimism now it could be cautious optimism from some stakeholders but from
00:10:57.000 others it seems like the days up ahead are better than the ones before if you guys enjoyed the video
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