Western Standard - April 04, 2024


Canada’s growing protest culture is a sign of a broken system


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Why are the protests happening so much? And why is it happening across Canada? Cory takes a look at the situation, and offers some solutions. Plus, the latest on the recall of Calgary s mayor, Jodi Gondek.

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00:00:00.000 Transcription by CastingWords
00:00:30.000 good day welcome to the cory morgan show oh lots to cover today as usual we have like an embarrassment
00:00:40.860 of riches and stories to cover not too many are good news i'm afraid but they are news and they're
00:00:45.860 important we got to discuss them we got to chew on them we've got to think about them and hopefully
00:00:50.580 come up with some solutions now and then it's always easier to point out problems than solutions
00:00:54.840 but hey you're supposed to do what you're good at right and i'm sure good at finding them and
00:00:57.780 pointing them out. I do point out solutions now and then too. More of that goes into my columns
00:01:01.480 and other things. This show is live, at least for those who are watching it live. You guys
00:01:05.980 watching it on cable, maybe not. But if you're watching live, use that commentary. I see Leslie
00:01:10.640 already making a comment. Some things, questions my way, comments, ideas, notions. I see them all.
00:01:16.400 I don't necessarily read them all out, but it helps prompt the show to keep it moving. Remind
00:01:20.080 me there are people on the other side of that camera tuning in. So let's get on to things.
00:01:25.780 It's been an interesting weekend. I actually had to whip into Vancouver and back. Jane and I left
00:01:33.000 on Friday morning and came back on Monday evening. And while I was passing back into Calgary on the
00:01:40.360 Monday, of course, probably lots of people heard about it. I went through those protests on the
00:01:44.780 side of the highway. I saw the crowds there over by Highway 22 and Highway 1. It wasn't so bad for
00:01:49.940 me going eastbound. For the people going west, though, they were pretty backed up. I heard
00:01:54.860 anything from, you know, an hour, 40 minutes to a couple hours in waiting. Either way, though,
00:01:59.600 what I want to talk about then, and I'll get on with this, is what's up? Why are the protests
00:02:05.060 happening so much? Not just this one, but it's constantly left, right, center, doesn't matter.
00:02:09.300 Well, I mean, most people would rather do darn near anything than stand on a street corner or
00:02:13.560 a highway waving a protest sign. I mean, time's a precious commodity, and using it to stand
00:02:18.620 jumbled within a crowd while police and many folks passing by are often less than supportive of your
00:02:23.320 efforts, well, it's a sign of desperation. On Monday of this Easter weekend, thousands of
00:02:28.860 Canadians in dozens of locations went out to protest the latest increase of Trudeau's carbon
00:02:33.460 tax. So why are more and more people subjecting themselves, though, to the elements and possibly
00:02:38.360 the long arm of the law with protests across Canada? Well, it's pretty simple. It's because
00:02:42.280 they feel helpless. They're frustrated and they're out of options. You see, in Canada's system, once
00:02:47.300 a person's elected to office, there's no mechanisms for citizens to hold them accountable. No matter
00:02:52.120 how poorly a politician might govern, the people are stuck with them until the next election.
00:02:56.940 Now, some people will say, well, that's just how democracy works, and they kind of have a point.
00:03:00.940 People got the chance to select their elected officials, and they should have to live with
00:03:04.200 their decisions, or at least within reason. There were cases, though, where the politicians
00:03:08.260 grossly misrepresented themselves when applying for the job during an election.
00:03:12.940 And yes, we have a local example in Calgary. Jodi Gondek has become, and she's managed to become,
00:03:18.040 Calgary's most unpopular mayor in Calgary history, and she's barely served more than half of her first 0.91
00:03:24.100 term. Gondek campaigned as a moderate, won the election based on that. As soon as she became 1.00
00:03:30.300 mayor, she pivoted into a crazed woke agenda. She ushered in an insane $87 billion climate change 1.00
00:03:37.940 plan. She torpedoed an agreement for construction of a new arena. She committed hundreds of millions 1.00
00:03:43.020 of dollars to an electric bus program and brought in a single-use plastic fan, which enraged the
00:03:48.440 city when it was implemented. Not to mention how far she went out of her way to piss off our local 1.00
00:03:52.300 Jews. Taxes to fund those plans have spiraled as well, of course. Now, had Gondek campaigned on 0.87
00:03:58.240 doing all those things in the first place, sure, some citizens would still be upset, I mean, when
00:04:02.520 those initiatives came about, but I think they'd be more inclined to accept it until the next
00:04:06.460 election because, well, that's what she said she was going to do. But since Gondek deceptively
00:04:10.460 campaigned as something else, people feel they've been misled and that she should be held accountable
00:04:14.840 for that. I mean, a recall petition in Calgary was initiated and it's garnered a lot of interest.
00:04:19.840 Alas, the legislation for recall in Alberta is terribly flawed and the bar for successful
00:04:24.320 petitioning is set possibly high. After months of hard effort, it appears the recall Gondek
00:04:29.120 campaign will have only reached a little more than 10% of the signatures required to force a recall.
00:04:34.340 That's not to say the petition's been a total failure. It's put an embarrassing spotlight on
00:04:38.160 just how terrible Gondek has been as a mayor, and it's shown how ridiculous the current recall
00:04:42.080 legislation is in Alberta. All the same, though. If recall was the goal, it was an exercise in
00:04:47.540 futility, and many people now are going to feel even more frustrated with the process.
00:04:52.820 Last weekend at the Calgary Flames game, thousands of attendees, and it made national news,
00:04:57.240 booed Jodi Gondek as she walked onto the ice for a ceremony. And there's been many
00:05:01.160 pearl clutchers, and they've been aghast with the disrespect shown to the mayor.
00:05:05.220 well, they'd be better served to try and understand why people are so upset in the first place
00:05:09.080 rather than complaining about the people being upset.
00:05:11.640 Citizens are exasperated and they want to show their discontent however they can,
00:05:15.300 even at a hockey game.
00:05:17.300 Federally and provincially, citizens face the same dilemma.
00:05:19.560 There's no way for citizens to remove an elected official no matter how terrible that official is.
00:05:24.720 Canada's Senate.
00:05:25.940 It's ostensibly the House of Sober Second Thought.
00:05:28.500 It's supposed to hold Parliament accountable. 0.53
00:05:30.140 Come on.
00:05:30.480 In reality, the Senate's an insult to democracy
00:05:32.820 as appointed members act as rubber stamps for the Prime Minister's policies.
00:05:36.500 It's just a patronage pit for old folks to get a really big pension before they fully retire. 0.96
00:05:42.500 And while the Trudeau government is an incredibly low level of public support,
00:05:46.080 citizens remain stuck with it as they're propped up by the NDP.
00:05:49.560 And Jagmeet Singh isn't widely popular in Canada either.
00:05:52.880 But through his ugly alliance with Trudeau,
00:05:55.220 Canadians get to enjoy being governed by not one but two parties that don't really represent them.
00:05:59.960 It shouldn't be easy to remove an elected official from power.
00:06:02.440 that's fair. Recall initiatives should have a high bar to be invoked. We don't want to live in a
00:06:06.660 world of endless recalls and by-elections. Premiers and prime ministers shouldn't be removed from
00:06:10.540 power on a whim. While it shouldn't be easy to remove an elected person from power, it should
00:06:14.780 be possible. A report from Canada's RCMP warned that civil unrest is growing and is going to
00:06:19.920 continue to grow in Canada due to bad governance and upset citizens. The government's likely going
00:06:24.400 to ignore that warning. In Canada's system, the lack of accountability among politicians is making
00:06:28.520 people desperate. And as the desperation grows, anger grows, and people are going to feel more
00:06:33.920 inclined to take on dangerous or even illegal ways to express themselves to pursue change.
00:06:38.320 When a person's back is against the wall, they will lash out. We're only seeing the warning
00:06:42.880 signs now, and it's going to get worse. We could avoid much of this civil disorder if only there
00:06:48.060 was a reasonable way for citizens to have their voices heard and respected by politicians between
00:06:52.180 elections. Unfortunately, there's little indication that politicians want to change the system in any
00:06:56.720 way that might disempower themselves. So I'm afraid that means things are going to get much
00:07:00.380 worse before they get better. So again, yes, I'm the bearer of some bad tidings, but it's worth
00:07:05.540 bringing up guys, because we're going to see more disorder. We're seeing it growing now and we're
00:07:09.300 going to see it growing further. So good to see all you guys checking into the comments, Mr. Stanley
00:07:13.780 Paradoxy, Theo Unpronounceable from Mission and Carol all there. So, okay, let's get somebody else
00:07:20.920 to check in. We got something different today. Jen Hodgson has some big shoes to fill. She's giving 0.82
00:07:25.760 us the news. Check in. She's one of our reporters here in Calgary because Dave is taking off
00:07:30.580 somewhere sunnier. How's it going, Jen? Going pretty good, Corey. How are you doing? I'm all
00:07:34.780 right. I'm all right. Shirt's a little wrinkled, but that's a separate story. So what's topping
00:07:40.700 the news today, Jen? Well, Corey, to your point about carbon tax protests, they're going on
00:07:46.100 nationwide. We've seen footage from provinces across the country, people coming out. And as
00:07:51.200 you say, it's no fun task to be out spending your day protesting on the street, but really
00:07:55.580 Canadians are coming out in droves about this. And though Conservative leader Pierre Polyev has
00:08:02.060 the campaign to axe the tax, he actually refused to answer yesterday about whether or not Canada
00:08:07.180 would withdraw from the Paris agreements if he were elected. So he's being a bit evasive about
00:08:12.380 that and still pushing for a change to green energy. On another note, we have some maid stories
00:08:19.980 developing or uh the idea of romantic romanticizing suicide jordan peterson retweeted a post from a
00:08:28.380 young dutch woman a 28 year old dutch girl who has depression and borderline personality who 1.00
00:08:34.700 is going to be suicided by the state in may she doesn't want to burden her boyfriend she said
00:08:41.020 as her reason for carrying through with this and here in canada we have the 27 year old
00:08:46.220 with autism, whose father has filed an appeal now to the court that had ruled that she actually
00:08:53.920 is eligible for MAID here in Canada. So we're seeing this encroachment towards people with 1.00
00:09:00.980 mental disabilities to be applying and accepted for MAID or other kinds of assisted suicide across
00:09:07.780 the world. Speaking of across the world, we have an ongoing inquiry into the China election
00:09:14.400 interference. It came out yesterday that there's 13 ridings in Canada that allegedly have been
00:09:21.340 affected by foreign interference. The Trudeau's government, the federal officials had hundreds
00:09:28.440 of complaints about this election interference. However, the Conservative Party, which itself
00:09:34.220 was targeted by pro-liberal interference by Chinese agents allegedly for the 2019 and 2021
00:09:42.760 election, the Conservatives weren't informed. The federal government kept that close to their
00:09:48.980 collar. Next up, we have the upcoming eclipse that's coming up next Monday. And so we've seen
00:09:58.040 states and provinces take all kinds of precautions. Most recently, the Niagara Falls region here in
00:10:04.220 Canada declared a state of emergency. And this week, Indiana, the state of Indiana declared a
00:10:10.680 state of emergency. Oklahoma's calling in the National Guard. We have Nassau shooting three
00:10:16.140 rockets at the eclipse. So we've got all kinds of chaos surrounding. What are people expecting?
00:10:22.940 Are aliens behind this or is there going to be mass explosions? I mean, I think there's been
00:10:28.200 a few million eclipses over the last few millennia or whatnot and the world didn't end.
00:10:33.920 Why is this one the one that's bringing about a state of emergency? Right. It's certainly very
00:10:38.500 hyped and i think that people actually don't know what to expect because of all that hype it is a
00:10:43.140 naturally occurring event we've seen solar eclipses before however it seems that this particular one
00:10:48.980 is causing a lot of controversy with most most provinces and states are citing the influx of
00:10:54.500 people that they're expecting to their region and that's why they've preemptively by the way
00:10:59.620 called a state of emergency niagara falls in canada is currently in a state of emergency
00:11:04.340 because of an eclipse that is expected next week ah great what else we got all right so we have
00:11:11.700 some social media scandals uh we have facebook caught spying on snapchat users and looking at
00:11:18.900 their data collecting their data as well as the us government has ordered youtube to identify
00:11:25.380 users who have actually watched certain youtube videos and have watched them more than once so we
00:11:30.900 have this monitoring and this data hacking going on with social media companies and finally corey
00:11:37.940 i'll end with this with this trans insanity that has come across our country so i came across this 1.00
00:11:45.780 morning a tweet from the liberal mp the sports minister pushing transgender in sports saying
00:11:52.900 that it's an evidence-based assertion that biological men can play on women's teams and
00:12:00.980 vice versa and also in this context we have an Ontario man who wants to have a vagina constructed
00:12:10.020 alongside his penis so he will actually have both anatomical parts and the courts are going to 0.87
00:12:16.820 decide if it's actually Ontario taxpayers that are going to foot the bill for this or not.
00:12:23.200 So if that guy, gal, whatever, manages to knock himself up, who's responsible for child support?
00:12:29.500 I guess it would probably be taxpayers as well, Corey.
00:12:33.100 Well, geez, you know, I mean, it's bad enough paying for my own.
00:12:35.820 I imagine there's probably some physiological things that would prevent that.
00:12:38.900 But boy, it's getting to the point where we just have to foot the bill for every modification.
00:12:43.780 I can't wait till somebody wants labia for earlobes. 0.99
00:12:49.520 Told you I was going to make it hard on you today.
00:12:51.340 Oh, thank you very much. I'll leave you alone, Jen. 0.97
00:12:54.560 Thanks, Corey.
00:12:55.520 I'll let you get back to writing up more news.
00:12:57.220 There's a big void to fill while Dave's runoff.
00:12:59.380 So I appreciate the check-in today and we'll see you after the show.
00:13:02.700 Happy to do it. Thanks for having me.
00:13:04.460 All right, thanks.
00:13:05.100 Okay, hi.
00:13:06.000 So that is our Jen Hodgson.
00:13:07.200 You see, there's a lot of stories by her very prolific writing on all sorts of issues there in Calgary, in Alberta, and as you can see, around the world.
00:13:15.560 So let's see what else we got going on.
00:13:18.120 just before we get to my next guest here, and I'm looking forward to that conversation. We've had
00:13:21.880 him on before with Mr. Geisbrecht, but we'll have him back. He's been writing some columns for the
00:13:26.820 Western Standard as well. Just getting on, I don't even know where to begin. Trudeau has a lunch
00:13:34.600 program coming out for a billion dollars. So this government that, again, that made the
00:13:39.640 Trans Mountain pipeline go, what, from four and a half billion to 40 billion and delayed it by
00:13:45.300 years and years, is now going to take on the responsibility of feeding your children. I can't
00:13:49.940 see what possibly could go wrong with this, right? It's just madness. But this seems to be the trend
00:13:56.100 of the liberal government right now. They keep jumping into provincial jurisdiction, throwing
00:13:59.920 our own money back at us. And then of course, if anybody questions it, you oppose feeding children,
00:14:06.160 you oppose free dentistry, you oppose this, you oppose that. They're laying landmines is what
00:14:10.300 they're doing. They're laying the traps for the next election. So even though these policies are
00:14:14.420 all stupid. If anybody opposes them, the usual gang will come out and call you nasty and evil
00:14:19.520 for daring to oppose what is sure to be a terribly poorly mismanaged program, probably run by a few
00:14:27.260 liberal insiders where they'll charge $500 a sandwich and only feed six kids a month per
00:14:32.480 school or something. But here it comes. Yes, Justin figures, Justin, who's probably never
00:14:37.000 made his own sandwiches entire life, is now going to take a billion of your dollars and take on the
00:14:42.480 responsibility of feeding your kids. I'm really looking forward to seeing how well that one works
00:14:47.440 out. All right, let's get on to something a little bit more important and bigger, and that is
00:14:53.040 residential schools. Yes, we're getting on the three-year anniversary of the big, I'll say it,
00:14:58.360 you know, with the air quotes, discovery in the Kamloops residential school site. Retired Justice
00:15:03.260 Brian Geisbrecht, he's written columns for us. He's been on the show before, and he's written a book
00:15:07.040 on this. Welcome back to the show, Brian. Good to see you. Good to see you, Corey.
00:15:13.040 So, I mean, you know, you've written a lot on this, as I said, from a book to columns and so on.
00:15:19.920 I just kind of want to start there. We're getting near three years since the world got turned upside
00:15:24.940 down with the anomalies discovered in the Kamloops residential school site in an old apple orchard.
00:15:31.960 But there's been no effort yet to actually verify that there's actually any remains there, right?
00:15:38.480 That's right.
00:15:39.180 And I don't think there will be any, Corey.
00:15:42.760 The only residential schools where they actually did this turned up absolutely no one.
00:15:49.020 So there have already been searches at Pine Creek, Shubanekedi, and a couple of others.
00:15:54.760 and there were the same stories about priests murdering and secretly burying children with
00:16:02.940 the forced help of six-year-olds, that type of nonsense. And the people really believed it.
00:16:09.580 That's the sad part. And when they dug this up, they found, no, there was nothing there.
00:16:14.620 And so Kamloops is, by now, they know that there are nobodies and they are not going to be digging.
00:16:22.620 uh they claim now as well this is a sacred ground or something like that but we know that's not true
00:16:29.420 because in winnipeg they just the governments are spending 40 million dollars to sift on a totally
00:16:35.420 pointless search to dig dig dig up toxic uh landfill reserves so i there there aren't going
00:16:42.380 to be any excavations there because they know that there are no bodies that's uh i'm quite sure that
00:16:48.140 that the sophisticated people in that community
00:16:51.500 realized that they've made a terrible mistake.
00:16:54.440 Yeah, I mean, a principled person
00:16:56.160 would still want the mistake rectified.
00:16:57.860 I mean, this has caused so much pain
00:16:59.640 for the people who believe that these things happened
00:17:02.040 and uncertainty and division between social populations
00:17:05.940 that already had enough division to begin with.
00:17:08.720 And I mean, to play the devil's advocate,
00:17:10.600 what if there really are children buried there?
00:17:13.700 It only makes sense that we would exhume them
00:17:16.080 and find out if it was recent enough
00:17:17.520 to try and find a perpetrator,
00:17:19.100 and also to try and reunite those remains with the family
00:17:22.620 so they could be properly interred.
00:17:24.080 It's ridiculous that they claim that these things happened,
00:17:26.500 but then say that we aren't gonna investigate further.
00:17:28.580 Well, of course, and if there had been 215 children
00:17:34.000 or then the thousands that were later claimed,
00:17:37.360 you would have some history of that.
00:17:40.000 You would have parents who had gone to the authorities
00:17:43.960 or the chief and said,
00:17:45.020 my children disappeared at residential school. Where are they? There's absolutely no history of
00:17:50.220 it. No, we were, our group, I should explain Corey, our research group came together very
00:17:56.700 shortly after the original claim. I had written an article in a newspaper saying basically what
00:18:04.060 I say now, that no, these are stories. This is a conspiracy theory. And we've been working on
00:18:13.100 this for some time and we've recently found some very interesting information. Our lead researcher
00:18:19.660 has found out that really this is all part of a conspiracy theory which goes back to the 1990s
00:18:27.420 and which really was incorporated by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, this
00:18:34.460 idea that there's thousands of disappeared children. It comes from a fellow named Kevin Annette
00:18:40.060 who was a defraud United Church minister and made it his life's mission to tell wild tales about
00:18:50.380 thousands, hundreds of thousands of children being killed at residential schools. And somehow,
00:18:56.460 through our elected representatives, by the way, it was through an MP by the name of Gary Morasty,
00:19:03.420 this eventually became part of um trc um that's the truth and reconciliation commission's search
00:19:12.460 they had no business doing it but they they went on this wild goose chase and that's why i believe
00:19:18.540 that's why canadians are so willing to believe this absolutely improbable story about priests
00:19:25.260 murdering and secretly burying children with the forced help of six-year-olds so they've been
00:19:30.620 basically conditioned that even all of the reporters in the mainstream news have uh have
00:19:37.100 sort of been conditioned to believe that this story must be true but of course it's completely false
00:19:42.620 yeah yeah and that's another you know lacking piece of this puzzle i mean if thousands of
00:19:48.700 children even hundreds of children had disappeared that would mean they would have hundreds and or
00:19:53.580 thousands of family members asking questions they would say such and such left the household at this
00:19:59.020 time and never returned. We don't have that. I mean, they keep talking about missing children,
00:20:04.320 but there's none or next to none documented that actually went missing. They've been accounted for.
00:20:09.040 I mean, some children passed away in those schools. Some were buried at school. Some were
00:20:12.440 repatriated to their home reserves, but there's no bunch missing. I mean, if there was a parent
00:20:17.300 saying, I think my child was murdered and buried in Kamloops, they probably would be digging.
00:20:22.040 Well, in fact, the children who went to residential schools were actually far better 1.00
00:20:27.520 documented than indigenous children who didn't go to the schools only a tiny fraction of indigenous
00:20:33.760 children went to these residential schools in the first place but they were very carefully
00:20:38.560 documented in large part because the federal government didn't spend want to spend any more
00:20:43.840 money than they had to uh they're notoriously cheap they've always that that's part of the
00:20:49.280 history they were trying to save money on what for them was a very expensive program so they did not
00:20:55.120 want to pay for children that were not attending. So the children are very well documented. And when
00:21:01.280 a child did die from, and it was almost always from disease, either tuberculosis or during the
00:21:08.300 influenza epidemics, because Indigenous children were much more likely to die, whether they went
00:21:14.660 to residential schools or day schools or any school, those children were very carefully
00:21:20.440 documented there was a report uh internal report made uh the uh these were christian schools so
00:21:27.640 they all had a christian burial and the vast majority of these children are buried on their
00:21:33.080 home reserves they were buried by their their families with their priests or with their ministers
00:21:39.080 and kimberly murray who is the interlocutory has even admitted this she said if you're looking for
00:21:44.920 the missing children and you'll find them in the cemeteries all you have to do is go to the
00:21:50.440 find the death certificates, which is what the researcher in our group had the presence of mind
00:21:59.120 to do. And you can find where these children were actually buried. So there are no missing children.
00:22:07.940 Corey, Tom Flanagan, who's in our group, said, no, no, there's not. They're not missing children.
00:22:13.000 These are forgotten children. These are children that were buried. The cemeteries were not properly
00:22:18.300 maintained for various reasons and now the families of 100 or 100 and some odd years later
00:22:25.660 i think that something horrible happened to them well no these are just children who sadly died of
00:22:31.260 disease in the early days and as i say residential schools had nothing to do with it day school
00:22:36.940 children died too most of the children didn't even go to school and too many of them died as well so
00:22:43.020 there is no story here but the unfortunately the trc and then this particular odd government we had
00:22:50.700 and uh its ally cbc have created a story where where there shouldn't be one and my big worry
00:22:58.860 is that this is all going to start tumbling down once this government once the cbc in its present
00:23:05.420 form is gone and we are in for a lot of trouble because the indigenous communities believe these 1.00
00:23:11.580 stories believe these false stories so we have a problem well yeah i mean to be honest if i believed
00:23:18.620 that you know some some cousins of mine or ancestors had had been so ill-treated murdered
00:23:24.540 hidden uh abused like that i'd be upset as well i mean and i perhaps would lash out if i felt there
00:23:31.100 was no recourse but this government seems to be more inclined to perpetuate or even expand the
00:23:36.860 mythology rather than in the irony as a truth and reconciliation commission they should be peeling
00:23:42.940 off the band-aid and finding the truth well they've all painted themselves into a corner we
00:23:48.060 we even see it getting worse all the time just the other day we had a vancouver archbishop who's now
00:23:54.540 promoting the uh kamloops stories he's uh you know basically spreading a kevin annette um uh
00:24:03.900 conspiracy theory and by the way corey um people can google what i'm saying just go on on online
00:24:11.100 and and get kevin annette's famous movie um unrepentant you can download it free and watch
00:24:18.780 it and this is where this junk comes from these are conspiracy theories but they were even believed
00:24:24.780 by very smart people noam chomsky praised the documentary even jordan peterson of all people
00:24:32.860 believed at least some version of of indigenous children being burned in burning barrels in the
00:24:40.620 1960s for heaven's sake so so we have some very smart people who've just bought into this junk
00:24:47.020 and i'm afraid that i single out cbc because they're the ones that are being paid salaries
00:24:53.580 they're not even looking at this stuff and and i have some personal experience with this where the
00:24:59.420 the level of knowledge of of cbc reporters is dismal and they don't only report on this
00:25:06.060 particular issue but all residential school issues uh incompetently they keep reporting that all the
00:25:13.500 children went to residential schools a fraction did they report that the children were forced to
00:25:19.180 attend well no in the usual case parents had to apply to send their children to residential schools
00:25:25.420 and uh many of them were refused because there wasn't room but this was a voluntary thing on the
00:25:31.260 part of of of most parents so we have a we have a staggering level of incompetence in the reporting
00:25:39.180 and that's been going on for decades now and so canadians have been conditioned to this
00:25:44.060 to believe this stuff and this really distracts and takes away from what we we do have i mean a
00:25:50.460 very serious crisis on our hands another thing with poorly educated people a lot of people just
00:25:54.860 haven't gone out enough. I spent 20 years in the oil field. I worked on reserves across the country
00:26:00.780 up in the from the territories and into a number of provinces. We've got a socioeconomic catastrophe
00:26:06.140 going on on just about every reserve in Canada. We've got some very troubled people. We've got
00:26:11.260 things getting worse year by year by every measure, whether it's economic, whether it's justice,
00:26:15.180 whether it's health, you name it. And here we are fighting over things that didn't happen 100 years
00:26:20.940 ago when we should be addressing what's going on today right now on those reserves in fact
00:26:26.300 we're making it worse because we're increasing division and and the bitterness between the
00:26:30.060 people on reserve and the people off well i'd go even further and say that this is being done by
00:26:37.020 many as as almost as a distraction from the real problem because as you point out the problem is
00:26:43.420 not people who who died 150 years ago or 100 years ago the problem is right now and what they've
00:26:50.780 done is is and again they being this particular government and even our supreme court they've
00:26:57.340 created this illusion that well we have a solution for for problems we're going to spend a lot of
00:27:04.060 money we're going to go further and further into this nation to nation concept and we're going to
00:27:11.740 go on this quest for reconciliation and this is going to fix the problems that's nonsense and
00:27:17.100 the idea that residential schools cause the problems of indigenous people well it's one on 1.00
00:27:22.700 a very long list of of of problems that have to be addressed but they are not being addressed we're
00:27:29.500 we're in a nonsense world we're spending a great deal of money we're um relying on
00:27:35.420 new legislation like this atrocious 100 bill which is going to just completely um uh stall
00:27:44.700 and and uh development and and hurt our economy greatly so we're on a very bad path and i have to
00:27:51.340 hope that that some new government is going to take a look at this stuff and realize no we're
00:27:56.780 going in the wrong direction and and uh trying to um waste time and money on this this these false
00:28:05.420 uh missing children's claims is not helping at all yeah and so i mean just to expand for people
00:28:12.060 if they're wondering they probably heard the term before that UNDREP is the United Nations Declaration
00:28:16.220 on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples I believe and yeah it's a terrible document which is only
00:28:21.420 going to make things much much worse and it's being taken seriously here unfortunately but
00:28:26.540 I mean that's the bottom line is people kind of need to research get beyond the buzzwords
00:28:30.780 and see what's really going on out there as you said the documents are there the information is
00:28:34.940 there people like yourself or Nina or Dr. Flanagan have been doing a fantastic work
00:28:40.300 Aimee Rubinstein on at least documenting what we know and what's out there. Where can people
00:28:46.780 find more information on all this, Brian? Well, I'm a contributor, so I'm plugging
00:28:53.580 the book, I guess. But Grave Error is an excellent book to start with. It contains a number of the
00:29:01.820 essays written by members of our group about this Kamloops claim, this false Kamloops claim.
00:29:08.140 And I'm also a contributor and author in From Truth Comes Reconciliation, which is another book
00:29:15.900 and we're coming out with another edition of this book very soon. In addition, you can go to our
00:29:24.060 site, the Indian Residential Research Group site, and that is an excellent source of material.
00:29:32.940 And Jaime Rubinstein's site is also very good.
00:29:39.840 He posts a different essay every day.
00:29:44.160 So that's a good place to start.
00:29:47.120 Great.
00:29:47.680 Well, yeah, I mean, the UNDRIP thing, you mentioned that.
00:29:51.020 That's a whole show on its own if we want to go there.
00:29:52.720 Yes, it is.
00:29:53.840 And that's why I wanted to leave off on, you know,
00:29:55.860 offering other resources for people to get out there
00:29:58.400 because, yeah, we've run out of time.
00:30:00.540 And I know, just to give another plug, you've written some columns for us at the Western Standard on other things, too, some of the woke insanity and things such as that.
00:30:08.100 So let the viewers know to watch for your name and catch those.
00:30:11.620 And, yeah, I appreciate your work on this and your book, and you're coming on to talk to us about it today.
00:30:19.140 Anytime, Corey.
00:30:20.460 All right.
00:30:20.960 Well, thank you.
00:30:21.440 I'm sure we'll talk again.
00:30:23.960 So that was Brian Geisbrecht.
00:30:26.880 And, yes, the book is Grave Error.
00:30:28.940 Look it up, guys.
00:30:29.580 I mean, we really got to get to the facts of this thing. It just keeps going on and on. And it's not nobody's winning. You know, if you want to talk about some sort of issue or subject or something where there's a winner and a loser, we're all losing, guys. We're just a whole bunch of losers. The only ones winning, I guess, are the, you know, there's a whole area. I mean, some people have called it in past books, the Indian industry, you know, there's a lot of lawyers, bureaucrats, advocates, they're winning, because they keep the anger, they keep the disorder, they keep the division going. 1.00
00:30:59.140 and they make a whole lot of money on this issue. They don't solve any problems. In fact,
00:31:04.940 they exacerbate them, but they get paid really well to do so. So endless court challenges or
00:31:10.140 things like doing GPR surveys of known cemeteries and saying, look, I've discovered graves. Yes,
00:31:16.520 it was next to the headstone. What a shocker. Good work. Brilliant. And then the ones where
00:31:21.280 there wasn't a headstone, and as Brian pointed out, the few times they've actually excavated
00:31:26.100 to confirm it, it turned out there was nothing there. Radar has very big limitations on what
00:31:35.000 it can or can't identify. Now, I see there's a commenter, Wes Wayne has been putting out a bunch
00:31:39.740 of the baloney out there on the comments, and that's fine for those reading it, saying, you
00:31:43.600 know, the clergy wouldn't bury them on church grounds. They were throwing them in rivers and
00:31:46.220 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, well, nobody's been reported missing, Wes. So who, where, how,
00:31:53.000 when. You're just spouting BS. But this BS is getting entrenched, and some people are believing
00:31:58.760 it. And the people who believe it are getting pretty darn upset. And I mean, something I didn't
00:32:02.880 get a chance to talk to Brian about. I mean, we've had, what is it, 80 churches now that have been
00:32:06.680 vandalized or defaced or burned to the ground? This is serious business. And meanwhile, the myths
00:32:13.060 get perpetuated. We need evidence, evidence, real evidence, not stories, not myths, not old wives' 0.99
00:32:20.820 tales evidence tell you what oral history sucks play the telephone game you know that game everybody
00:32:27.300 sits in a circle whisper something in their ear go around in a circle and see what it sounds like
00:32:31.380 by the time i guess the end person is totally different whatever you began with and we're
00:32:34.420 supposed to believe the oral history of children from the 50s all the way to today and turns out
00:32:40.420 whenever we checked into the evidence it just a lot of it wasn't there so yeah brian's working
00:32:46.340 on getting to the truth he's working on the group that's getting to the truth so watch for his
00:32:50.100 columns, watch for his items. So let's talk about another fool since we're there. Catherine Ford, 1.00
00:32:56.320 she's an established columnist with the Calgary Herald, been there a long time. It's getting back
00:33:01.160 to Jody Gondek, you know, mayor of Calgary. And yes, most people across the country saw it. I mean,
00:33:06.200 Gondek, you don't often see a Western Canadian mayor trending across X like that. But Gondek
00:33:11.400 managed to do it. Because when she walked out onto the ice for a ceremony at the Saddle Loman
00:33:17.340 Calgary, for the Calgary Flames game, the whole place booed her. I mean, it wasn't just a handful 1.00
00:33:21.440 of people booing. It was a rumbling, low booing from the majority of the crowd. And people were
00:33:28.080 just, oh, they're upset. They're horrified. But you see, now, what has Ford come up with?
00:33:32.520 She says, and this is from the headline of her column, sexism, racism still lurk in the shadows
00:33:39.260 as Gondek faces recall petition. Straight as usual to the identity politics. Oh, look, people are
00:33:48.420 trying to recall Gondek. People are booing Gondek. People don't like Gondek. It must be because they
00:33:53.320 don't like her. They despise her because she's a woman of South Asian descent and because she's a 1.00
00:33:57.560 woman, right? That must be the reasons. No, it's not. It's because she sucks. It's because she 1.00
00:34:01.320 literally is the worst mayor in Calgary history as far as polled support demonstrates. So why do
00:34:08.640 you got to throw that in there. Are you doing Gondek any favors, Mrs. Ford? Ford brings up a
00:34:13.820 bunch of crap in there about how the Petroleum Club in Calgary, she's trying to point out Calgary's a
00:34:17.540 hotbed of misogyny and nastiness towards women because the Petroleum Club didn't even allow 1.00
00:34:21.760 women into it until into the early 90s. And that's true. That is true. And that was wrong.
00:34:25.800 But it was also 30 friggin years ago. The problem with Gondek has absolutely nothing to do with
00:34:32.880 that. She says in her own column, I don't really actually have any evidence of this, but you can
00:34:37.500 tell there's an undertone of it in there, an undertone. See, talk about spreading division.
00:34:42.600 The people who read crap and believe crap read her crap, and they embrace her crap, and it makes
00:34:47.700 them crappier for it. Okay, enough about crap. But I mean, talk about misinformation. We're not
00:34:52.740 talking about somebody who hasn't been around for a long time. Catherine Ford's been writing
00:34:56.760 a long, long time. She's aware of what she's doing. She's aware of what she's writing.
00:35:02.460 This had nothing to do with racism. I'm sure there's some racists out there.
00:35:06.140 Sure, there's some.
00:35:06.720 People have said some terrible things about Gondek because of her race.
00:35:09.160 That's wrong.
00:35:09.500 I blocked a few of those on X myself.
00:35:11.540 I had one, you know, ding dong going on about Ninchy should be deported and people of his ilk. 1.00
00:35:17.920 Whoa, okay, a couple of things.
00:35:19.340 Ninchy was born in Canada.
00:35:20.720 I got no use for him.
00:35:21.540 Rest assured, I spent a lot of time beating on the head Ninchy. 1.00
00:35:24.480 But he's born in Canada.
00:35:25.400 Don't go into that deporting stuff.
00:35:26.660 Let's get real.
00:35:27.300 But yes, the racists exist out there and some of the anti-women. 1.00
00:35:29.880 But the bottom line, that's not what got Gondek down to the point of whatever it is, 20% support in the city now or whatever record low it is.
00:35:39.100 Mr. Stanley's pointing out a good point, a commenter saying she's only the mayor.
00:35:42.120 She doesn't actually control everything. 0.76
00:35:43.300 There is a council.
00:35:43.880 Yes, she's one of 15.
00:35:45.520 That's absolutely true.
00:35:47.180 But the mayor controls the communications.
00:35:49.360 The mayor controls the direction.
00:35:50.680 And the mayors and cities in Calgary are very powerful, though, actually.
00:35:53.760 They can impose a lot of things or a lot of attitude and things that come along.
00:35:58.880 but yes, she is supported by a lot of terrible counselors as well. But no, it was her directly
00:36:03.780 who brought in that $87 billion climate change plan. It was her who torpedoed the arena. And 1.00
00:36:09.100 again, you might think it was a good idea to get out of the arena. That's certainly very debatable,
00:36:14.560 but that's not what she campaigned on. If she'd have gone in on the campaign saying, 0.63
00:36:19.200 I'm going to blow up the arena deal, then she would do so. But yeah, this is one of the items
00:36:26.260 from Catherine Ford's column, you know, before I move on from this one. Uh, I make this assumption
00:36:30.640 about the underlying sexism waged against Gondek and hold this opinion for a simple reason.
00:36:34.660 Being there, done that. Live through outright sexism. Oh, Ford, some of your columns sucked.
00:36:40.220 That's part of why I didn't like you much in the past, but the underlying, right? That's why,
00:36:46.220 and make this assumption. Yeah. It's because you had no bloody evidence, Ford. Yeah. Gondek's a
00:36:52.300 terrible, terrible mayor. Get over it. Speaking of terrible, let's get a little more national and
00:36:56.980 talk about Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, one of everybody's favorite subjects, right? There was
00:37:00.720 an interesting, candid moment yesterday from Trudeau. I think it was yesterday that came out.
00:37:06.140 Recently, anyways, the video clip is out there. And it was funny, because this video clip, you
00:37:09.580 hear protesters in the background, and there's hammering drums and yelling and shouting. I mean,
00:37:14.080 again, it's getting back to my original monologue. People are getting upset. They're protesting
00:37:17.860 everywhere. Trudeau can't go anywhere without being surrounded by protesters. But he did
00:37:21.340 say, and he admitted, that Canada has been taking in too many immigrants, more immigrants than it's 1.00
00:37:27.760 able to absorb. Good. I mean, even though I get no use for Trudeau, I'm glad to see him acknowledging
00:37:34.440 the problem finally. Finally. People have been screaming this from the rooftops for years.
00:37:40.580 We can't take them in at this speed, at this level, while supporting them when they get here.
00:37:48.160 we don't have the infrastructure, we don't have the health care ability, the education ability,
00:37:52.080 we certainly don't have the housing for the level we're at. Nobody reasonable is saying
00:37:56.320 end all immigration. Some people are saying that. But as I said, nobody reasonable saying that,
00:38:00.440 but we need to get it in line. And Trudeau finally admitted that. But then he talked outside of it
00:38:06.500 as if it wasn't a problem that he made in the first place. This is all started since you became
00:38:13.500 the Prime Minister. At least, at least say, we screwed up. He won't do it. He won't say it. And
00:38:20.580 you know what? That's fine. I think that's fine because Canadians see through it. And if that 0.66
00:38:25.120 dingbat is finally going to acknowledge a problem that 90% of us already knew, but still won't show
00:38:30.860 even a little bit of contrition that he was the one who brought about the problem in the first
00:38:34.920 place, it's really going to make sure as long as it's bloody well going to be, but he's going to
00:38:40.900 be wiped out in the next election. Rightly so. But I still am a little bit happy that whatever,
00:38:48.560 so he's not taking full responsibility for it. If he's at least acknowledging that it's a problem,
00:38:53.960 then he might actually tap the brakes on it. We can't afford this. Young people can't even dream
00:39:01.900 of owning a home. People are waiting months and months and months just to find a family doctor.
00:39:06.480 They're waiting years to see a specialist.
00:39:09.920 And we talk about the housing crisis.
00:39:12.820 Well, we need more immigrants to build the houses. 1.00
00:39:15.180 Sure, but we got to target that then.
00:39:17.720 Are we bringing in predominantly electricians and plumbers and carpenters, landscapers even?
00:39:24.700 Or in medicine, are we bringing in more doctors and pharmacists and chemists and nurses?
00:39:29.620 Because that's where we have the need.
00:39:31.000 bring that in, target those categories until we can sustain who's coming in. Then we can look to
00:39:38.300 broaden it. It's a good place to be. You know, Canada's GDP per capita is plummeting due to bad
00:39:44.880 management and many number of things, but we're still one of the better countries on the planet
00:39:48.940 to be in. There's a lot of people really want to come here badly and work and make a life for
00:39:53.240 themselves. And it's a great place to be where we're here now. And it's great to be able to bring
00:39:57.700 some people in and allow them, like almost the rest of our ancestors did, to come here and make 0.94
00:40:02.100 a better life. That's great. But we've got to do it with planning and with care. We haven't done
00:40:07.900 that. It's made a mess. But at least step one, step one, you know, as a friend of Bill W. myself,
00:40:14.100 I remember all 12 steps. That first one really is admitting, you know, there's a problem. And
00:40:19.300 he's gotten there. He's got a lot of steps to go. I just want him gone. I don't think he's going to
00:40:24.300 get through those steps. But Trudeau did admit at least the root of the problem. That's taken a lot
00:40:29.380 of time and kicking and screaming. Bringing in skilled, this commenter just goes by the letter
00:40:34.740 R. Bringing in skilled people is awesome, but it doesn't make them supposedly upgrade for years
00:40:37.660 before they can practice their trade. Okay, so I think what you're getting at, and there's some
00:40:41.160 truth to that, we've had a lot of problems in being at least fast in making sure that the people
00:40:47.300 we're bringing in can transfer their qualifications straight over. They might come from a country that
00:40:52.920 has lower standards. Some of the countries have higher standards for some of the trades and
00:40:56.560 professions. We have to make allowances for that. We shouldn't also keep the new Canadians on the 1.00
00:41:01.860 hook for months and months at a time while we determine that or stop a lot of people from
00:41:05.780 working in the things they're well qualified for because of the bureaucracy and trying to make them
00:41:10.220 reprove where they are. Though you can't just let somebody come in and start practicing medicine
00:41:14.180 without ensuring that, you know, we have enough qualifications and skills.
00:41:22.200 I mean, if you're a doctor from some countries, it might not be quite as good as what we're
00:41:26.240 offering here.
00:41:26.680 But there's a lot of countries that put out fantastic professionals and trades and all
00:41:30.540 sorts of things, and we would benefit by having them here.
00:41:34.720 Let's talk about, here's the latest, you know, we've been talking, I've been going
00:41:38.340 along and touring and speaking events for talking about the Alberta pension plan idea,
00:41:41.880 You know, the province going its own way and getting its own pension.
00:41:45.440 That's been a big issue out here.
00:41:46.540 It's been a big across the country because, of course, if Alberta pulls out of the pension scheme nationally,
00:41:51.600 the national scheme is going to have a lot of trouble paying the bills as Alberta over-contributes.
00:41:56.300 And I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole.
00:41:57.560 Every Alberta person by person is the same amount as the rest of the country.
00:42:00.120 I understand that.
00:42:01.080 But as a whole, Alberta over-contributes a lot and underdraws. 0.86
00:42:04.600 And then the people poo-pooing on it, the people saying we should be satisfied with the Canadian pension plan,
00:42:09.520 the people saying we're whiners out in Alberta.
00:42:11.520 how Darrow's question is fantastic. Canada pension plan. Well, the average payout for CPP average
00:42:19.100 for a person once you retire and get it out is $758 a month. That's it. That's it. You could have
00:42:25.300 worked for decades. It depends on how long you've been working, how much you've put in. The average
00:42:29.500 is $758 a month. You're supposed to live on and retire at the top. I think it's about 1300, 1400
00:42:38.780 a month, if you have maximized contributions all the way up and managed to take them out.
00:42:44.500 If you're a member of parliament, yeah, member of parliament, the average, average member of
00:42:52.580 parliament pension is $78,000 a year. Yeah. Yeah. They're almost 10 times the average
00:43:02.880 of what other Canadians who work a whole lifetime towards. And these are the ones they're sitting
00:43:07.100 on a 78,000 average, some of them are getting a pension well into six figures, telling us,
00:43:14.160 shut up, be happy with your $758 a month. Just tighten your belt a little. Don't worry,
00:43:19.740 Justin's making sandwiches for the kids in school, right? We'll all be all right.
00:43:24.320 The hypocrisy, the disconnect, the lack of vision on this. And they see their pension,
00:43:31.120 they don't put a heck of a lot into it. I mean, they put a chunk in, sure, but they get pension
00:43:35.560 matching in a way from the taxpayers on top of that that we can't even dream of. Plus it's a
00:43:41.180 separate fund. It's not like the CPP. Unacceptable for instance, there's no money left, Trudeau spent
00:43:47.500 it all. Not quite true. As far as at least the actuarial records go, the pension fund, the Canada
00:43:53.080 Pension Fund has about 33% self-funding, a balance going on, a principal. And that was started in the
00:44:00.420 90s. It used to be fully pay-as-you-go. Now, 30% of it isn't. Still, almost 70% is pay-as-you-go,
00:44:06.220 which means we have to keep people pumping money in to keep the last ones paid off. Another term
00:44:10.980 for it is a Ponzi scheme, kind of, because you've got to keep broadening that base to increase the
00:44:15.020 payments to the top. And as people are living longer, you've got to think this pension came
00:44:19.040 about in the, what, the 60s? People on average back then died, you know, I hate to say it,
00:44:23.600 but the average life expectancy was in your 60s. So they figured people retire when they're 65,
00:44:27.320 a lot of them even aren't even going to make it that long, and they're probably only going to
00:44:30.080 live a few years afterwards so we can afford to pay them out. Problem is now we're living until
00:44:33.660 into our 80s on average, and it's great, but it's also making it a lot more expensive to try and
00:44:39.440 sustain and maintain pensions for the people like that. So yeah, we get issues with that.
00:44:45.540 Either way, again, so when we got this terrible pension plan and Albertans are nasty for daring
00:44:50.880 to try and seek a better way, that hypocrisy is really well exposed when we see that our members
00:44:57.520 of parliament are averaging 78,000 a year as a pension. I mean, when you're pensioning,
00:45:02.100 you're expected to be kind of making a little bit less. You're just kind of getting by and
00:45:05.420 retiring and relaxing. But if you remember a parliament, you're getting more in pension than
00:45:10.000 your average person even makes when they're at the peak of their working life. I mean, I don't
00:45:14.920 expect them to work for minimum wage in parliament, but come on guys. And again, they get Canada
00:45:20.300 pension on top of that and a number of other things as well, I'm sure. So, and they're the
00:45:24.880 ones telling us, tighten your belts. Right. So, I mean, to finish out, yes, this is a story. It
00:45:30.660 was in Black Locks. I think this is a standard might pick it up. It says there's a document
00:45:34.740 that came out. The cabinet federally needs new strategies to restore public trust in the
00:45:41.040 government of Canada. Yeah, it was an access to information memo. Yeah, again, they're sort of
00:45:46.240 figuring it out. Jeez, people don't trust them. Well, why? How could I not trust somebody who's
00:45:51.900 telling me, hey, Corey, enjoy your retirement after a lifetime of work at $758 a month whilst
00:45:56.780 I whisk off to my private island on $80,000 a year pension. God, it's stomach turning,
00:46:05.340 but it's par for the course in Canada. People are protesting, people are screaming, people are
00:46:09.080 shouting. Sometimes they push it a little too far. I think I'll talk about that in a future show.
00:46:12.940 Either way, I'm out of time for today. That is the show. We covered a lot of ground
00:46:16.900 and a lot of issues. There were more I wanted to hit, but we just don't have more time.
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