Western Standard - August 08, 2024


Canadian citizenship for ISIS


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Two Canadian citizens, a father and son, were arrested and charged for allegedly cutting off the heads of alleged infidels. The Trump-Kamala Harris race tightening up in the polls in the U.S. and Nigel's words on that. And the murder of three little girls at a dance studio in the UK has triggered riots.

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00:00:00.000 not a headline i thought i'd be using in my lifetime or this week but uh the english civil
00:00:28.920 War, part two. Murders from allegedly migrants in the UK of three little girls at a dance
00:00:44.300 class or dance studio of some kind have triggered huge riots and a very clear two-tiered policing
00:00:53.120 against radical Islamists on one hand and indigenous Britons on the other.
00:00:58.820 So we're going to be talking about that.
00:01:00.780 And the U.S. presidential election.
00:01:03.740 Nigel might have some words to eat that Trump was going to cruise to a super landslide majority.
00:01:09.080 The Trump-Kamala Harris race tightening up.
00:01:12.700 Seems like an actual race now.
00:01:15.180 We'll have words on that. 0.99
00:01:17.220 We'll have words. Famous words from Nigel.
00:01:19.700 And we're going to, if we have time, we're going to check in on the men competing for the women's gold in the Olympic boxing.
00:01:31.000 What does it say? Pink power? What do you say? What's the feminist saying? 0.77
00:01:35.840 I'm a woman, hear me roar. There we are. I'm a woman, hear me roar. In the boxing ring. 0.99
00:01:41.800 Okay. All right, well, let's start with it.
00:01:46.500 Nigel, maybe you can fill us in, just start with some of the details.
00:01:50.020 I'm sure a lot of people have seen the story.
00:01:51.760 But two Canadian citizens, a father and a son.
00:01:55.780 Now, I should say now Canadian citizens, they weren't when they were allegedly members of ISIS, 0.76
00:02:00.800 allegedly cutting off the heads of alleged infidels. 0.83
00:02:05.580 So, okay, so the father is a Canadian citizen. 1.00
00:02:10.100 The son is not. The son is 26, the father is 62.
00:02:13.960 They were apprehended by the police in Hamilton, Ontario, in a hotel room,
00:02:20.560 where they were discovered to have, it is said, edged weapons.
00:02:26.120 And allegedly, they were about to commit a crime,
00:02:29.800 so the police, reasoning that this had gone far enough,
00:02:34.500 moved in and arrested them.
00:02:36.480 They face charges under the appropriate terrorism sections of the Canadian Criminal Code.
00:02:44.900 There has been a ban on reporting, so anything we say has to be heard with the view that we can't say everything we think we know.
00:02:59.680 Now then, what we can say is that there is video out there now, published by ISIS in 2015,
00:03:08.700 which shows a person suspended from a crane and an individual that some people say is El Didi, the man...
00:03:20.580 El Didi, that's not a rap name, that's a terrorist name.
00:03:23.140 It is a terrorist name, Ahmed El Didi.
00:03:25.940 El Didi.
00:03:27.280 Ahmed Mustafa, anyway.
00:03:29.680 there is a person actually does some rap now i mean you've seen this stuff right
00:03:33.620 i try to stay away from it it's quite something there's something the music videos are a little
00:03:37.900 r-rated with missing heads and yeah you know some stuff you just can't unsee so if you don't need to
00:03:43.540 don't do it but at any rate there is video out there it's accessible now checked for it yesterday
00:03:48.360 and uh person hanging up there and there is a man cutting off limbs with a with a sword
00:03:54.960 It looks a bit like Ahmed El Didi, some say.
00:03:59.400 Anyway, if this all checks out,
00:04:02.560 if this all checks out,
00:04:04.040 we have the government of Canada
00:04:06.480 issuing citizenship to somebody
00:04:09.560 who has had a starring role in an ISIS video
00:04:13.640 and has then gone on to plan an outrage
00:04:17.080 of some kind in Canada.
00:04:19.820 This is the failure,
00:04:22.620 the abject failure of the Liberals' immigration processing system. 0.98
00:04:28.620 You're supposed to catch people like that.
00:04:31.160 The Conservatives have asked for the Public Safety Committee to come back
00:04:35.020 and try and get to the bottom of what actually happened
00:04:37.080 or what didn't happen that should have happened.
00:04:40.040 And the other thing that we've got to keep in mind is that
00:04:42.380 Canadian passport gets you across the border pretty easily.
00:04:46.640 But if the Americans think we're not being very careful about who we give citizenship to,
00:04:51.300 that could change.
00:04:54.540 So, Corey,
00:04:55.460 it's not proven yet,
00:04:57.660 but it's increasingly
00:04:59.720 looking like it probably
00:05:02.240 was,
00:05:04.060 but, you know, we'll use the regular
00:05:05.640 de-risking terms,
00:05:08.840 allegedly, and whatnot.
00:05:11.900 For something like this to happen,
00:05:14.800 do you think it's,
00:05:16.740 I mean, there's a number of reasons it could happen,
00:05:18.180 but, I mean, like, geez, 1.00
00:05:19.480 Canadians, we couldn't even get our passports.
00:05:21.540 Maybe we don't have to worry about a reaction from the Americans with passports
00:05:24.760 because Canadians have so much trouble getting passports now.
00:05:27.180 Although that backlog seems to be largely cleared at this point, finally.
00:05:30.840 But, you know, Corey, this might be because we are bringing in such massive hordes of people right now.
00:05:39.700 No government on the planet, even a competent, well-run government,
00:05:45.300 even though that's probably an oxymoron in terms to begin with. 0.97
00:05:47.480 But no government can process this proportion of people coming into a country the size of Canada and do any due diligence.
00:05:55.460 At this point, I mean, if the Liberal government is so intent on bringing in millions of people at this level,
00:06:04.420 there's just no way they can do due diligence, no matter what, even if they're trying.
00:06:08.440 Well, law of averages says, yeah, if you're going to bring in one and a half million people a year,
00:06:12.640 or, you know, depending on students and temporary and all the rest that are coming in,
00:06:15.640 some are going to slide through the cracks that you really didn't want here in the first place.
00:06:19.800 That's just volume. But this is the point, too. He got citizenship. So that's not just a landed
00:06:24.960 immigrant status or refugee status or something like that. He went through all of the hoops and
00:06:30.360 the rest and got that. And that's what's frustrating. And we all run across people who
00:06:34.200 play by the rules. They apply. They do it the way you're supposed to do it. And it seems like they
00:06:39.700 get put through the wringer. They wait for years. They get delays. They're desperately trying to
00:06:44.000 citizenship they haven't chopped anybody's limbs off or have any questionable history yet they go 0.93
00:06:50.080 through misery to try and become citizens yet some of these most odious of people somehow slip through
00:06:56.400 the cracks i mean our system is failing us and in screening as you said you don't necessarily get
00:07:00.560 every one of them but you should be able to get the ones that have large broadcast videos of uh
00:07:05.040 atrocious acts uh you know if indeed that's the case with this gentleman uh do they do a google
00:07:10.720 surge, at least, I mean, it really shouldn't take that much.
00:07:13.960 Nigel, I want to stay on this track a bit more, though, just about the sheer numbers.
00:07:18.840 When you're bringing in one, 1.5 million people a year, I mean, we used to be able to kind 1.00
00:07:25.060 of put people into the good bucket and the bad bucket, legal migrants, the illegal migrants,
00:07:30.300 but it actually doesn't seem to be much of a difference anymore in a sense that the federal
00:07:38.080 government's allowing anyone in, because they just want numbers. They seem to want to just pump up the numbers. For whatever political reason, they've decided they need to bring in people on this scale that nobody thinks we can absorb both economically or socially in these numbers on an annual basis. When you're bringing in this many people, it's not just going to be, you know, like a guy sneaking across the Rio Grande in a basket. It's people who are going through the process but aren't going to get properly
00:08:08.060 when you're dealing with the scale of migrants. 1.00
00:08:11.560 Oh, I think that's absolutely true. 1.00
00:08:14.400 And I noticed you use the words for a political purpose.
00:08:19.120 Now, you must be one of those cynics
00:08:21.380 who thinks that liberals assume
00:08:23.620 that new immigrants are likely to- 0.98
00:08:25.720 Surely not. 1.00
00:08:26.560 Surely not.
00:08:27.560 I am confounded by your cynicism.
00:08:29.780 You picked up on what I said there.
00:08:31.120 Yeah, so anyway, but you know,
00:08:33.920 all of what you said, perfectly true.
00:08:35.340 When you're dealing with things in that numbers,
00:08:38.040 I think more and more people you don't want are going to get through the cracks.
00:08:41.940 But why are we dealing with people in those numbers?
00:08:45.140 Beyond the political motive, if there is one,
00:08:49.060 this is just the way the liberals do everything.
00:08:53.980 It's amateur hour.
00:08:55.000 They love to make grand statements.
00:08:58.020 They don't take care of the details. 1.00
00:09:00.260 So the grand statement is we're bringing in refugees,
00:09:04.080 we're bringing in people who we badly need,
00:09:06.720 and they don't think how they're going to do it.
00:09:10.880 They just have the latest university grad
00:09:15.000 who's signed on to the staff of the minister,
00:09:17.440 send them down to the civil service office
00:09:19.720 and we'll get it done.
00:09:20.940 Just get it done.
00:09:23.140 And you see this in everything from the...
00:09:26.160 You want to look back through COVID,
00:09:28.320 look at the app that they had.
00:09:29.860 This is an example of governing
00:09:32.260 without taking care of the details.
00:09:34.660 We're not talking about those things right now.
00:09:36.720 But there's a string of them that you could lay at the...
00:09:39.380 And it's the liberal style of doing government.
00:09:42.460 They don't do government.
00:09:43.540 They just make announcements.
00:09:44.900 This is what happens.
00:09:46.960 I don't...
00:09:48.460 I'll come back to you, Nigel, now.
00:09:50.440 Again, we kind of chatted about this earlier about...
00:09:55.220 You know, we should be careful not to always describe
00:09:57.120 the worst possible motivations to people we disagree with politically.
00:10:02.180 Oh, I'm not.
00:10:03.340 No, no.
00:10:03.940 No, you know, I don't think much of Mr. Trudeau, and he doesn't think much of me.
00:10:08.220 But I would not assume that Mr. Trudeau would knowingly bring people into the country.
00:10:14.660 I don't think so.
00:10:15.480 No, he wouldn't.
00:10:16.300 And not with the civil service if they were told to do it.
00:10:18.880 But there might be something a bit lighter I want to explore, 0.59
00:10:21.480 and that is the liberals have a radical Islam problem. 0.54
00:10:27.580 They have radical Islamists.
00:10:29.400 And I'm distinguishing here between mainstream, largely secular Muslims who, by and large, integrate, and I've got no problem with,
00:10:39.200 and then Islamists, people who are dedicated to the political and theocratic ideology of Islamism.
00:10:45.720 And I think if anything has been clear in Canada since October 7th is that's not a small group in Canada.
00:10:52.860 and it has political sway in Canada, it has political sway with governments,
00:10:58.240 and particularly with this federal government that has been tying itself into a pretzel knot,
00:11:04.160 trying to, you know, Jewish people in Canada traditionally in disproportionate numbers supported the Liberal Party.
00:11:13.080 And they're tying themselves in knots, trying to not completely throw that away,
00:11:16.760 but at the same time, pander to radical Islamists who would like to kill that similar constituency of the Liberal Party.
00:11:26.080 And we're seeing anti-Semitic attacks regularly in Canadian streets, firebombing buses at Jewish schools, businesses, things like that.
00:11:35.240 And how much of this do you think could be chalked up to the liberals figuring that their political interests lay now with pandering to radical Islamists as an electoral force in Canada?
00:11:52.680 If they're already tied to it publicly, they may as well bring in more.
00:11:55.240 you may well be on to something there
00:11:58.540 and if you go to Statistics Canada
00:12:00.080 and just look up the ethnic origins of
00:12:02.280 recent immigrants and
00:12:03.940 those who
00:12:05.880 what are the religious affiliations
00:12:08.700 of those who choose to fill out that question
00:12:10.740 to be blunt
00:12:12.340 there's a lot more support to lose among
00:12:14.680 Islamists than there is among
00:12:16.640 Jewish people
00:12:17.580 there's a lot more of them 1.00
00:12:19.820 so it is a very difficult
00:12:22.300 political problem
00:12:23.600 in the sense of winning elections political problems to try and keep these two groups satisfied.
00:12:30.960 The thing is that we think, or at least I will speak for myself, 0.88
00:12:35.720 I think that the Jewish position as being attacked on October the 7th puts them so much in the right
00:12:42.060 that really it just behooves politicians to say, you know what, 0.70
00:12:45.880 there's no way we can support what happened on October the 7th when we stand with Israel.
00:12:50.980 They won't do that. 0.88
00:12:53.600 Corey, do you think this is, maybe I'm being too uncharitable here, but the liberals have just so embarrassingly fallen over themselves, trying not to offend radical Islamists, and I'm not talking about, again here, secular, westernized Muslims, I'm talking about people who adhere to the ideology of political, theocratic Islamism.
00:13:21.800 I think it inspires them to kick the can down the road. I mean, if they're getting reports from civil servants or others saying we're having a difficulty with this segment that's leading to more trouble than others, or, you know, we're having problems with screening this. I can see senior Liberal members just saying, I don't want to hear about that. It's not a problem. You know, take care of it. I mean, we see also that the anti-Semitism in the NDP has just blossomed this last few months. I mean, it's not a matter of being a little bit.
00:13:48.960 Yeah, they're barely hiding it whatsoever, and that's the partners with the Liberals right now.
00:13:53.200 They don't want to lose that partnership.
00:13:54.920 I mean, we had a Liberal member of Parliament just coming up with a petition saying we should dig into the Canadian pension plan now
00:14:01.040 and pull out of all Israel-related investments.
00:14:05.020 Like, it's getting absurd, and even if it's not direct in wanting to, you know, lead to having more Islamists getting through the screening system, 0.71
00:14:14.260 it also has put the priorities of cleaning that cell system up way down into the back burner 0.87
00:14:20.540 because they just don't want to get into it.
00:14:22.180 It's cowardice.
00:14:23.340 Yeah, I also think a lot of this might be, you know,
00:14:26.420 civil servants walking on pins and needles for fear of being called Islamophobic.
00:14:31.760 Yeah.
00:14:32.240 And I think that's a good segue to our next segment on English Civil War.
00:14:38.340 I mean, English Civil War, for me, the term's been used, I think, of roundheads and cavaliers.
00:14:47.260 Yeah, we were talking about the English Model Army earlier today, Nigel.
00:14:52.960 And, you know, that classic by the Clash.
00:14:56.760 That's what I think of.
00:14:57.900 Until this week, all of a sudden, the term's been used.
00:15:00.100 I think it's still an overblown term at this point.
00:15:02.940 I think it's highly unlikely that we're going to see roundheads and cavaliers,
00:15:08.040 new model armies standing up doing pitch battle in the UK.
00:15:11.900 But it sure is looking like a war zone right now.
00:15:15.060 We had, just the other week, three indigenous Britons, little girls, stabbed to death.
00:15:26.520 It's alleged that this happened from a migrant.
00:15:29.340 Do we have more information on that yet?
00:15:30.980 My understanding is that he was born in England of Rwandan illegal immigrants.
00:15:38.500 Okay.
00:15:39.060 He's 17 years old. 0.99
00:15:40.020 If you're born of illegal immigrants, you probably shouldn't be illegal yourself. 0.99
00:15:42.980 I mean, either way, he didn't come from another country.
00:15:45.620 He's not an indirect way.
00:15:46.660 He's the next generation.
00:15:50.420 And I mean, mass migration has been a boiling topic really across the West for a long time,
00:15:58.340 but it's really been bubbling up in the UK.
00:15:59.940 was a big impetus behind why they left the EU
00:16:03.340 so they could control their own migration policies
00:16:05.760 to which they didn't really seem to take advantage of
00:16:08.640 once they left the EU.
00:16:09.720 They just kind of left their borders undefended in any case.
00:16:15.180 But this has triggered,
00:16:17.280 first it started with some protests
00:16:19.300 and police not allowing the protesters
00:16:23.400 near these migrant shelters and whatnot.
00:16:26.240 and then
00:16:27.360 one way or another
00:16:30.760 it's turned into rioting. We have rioting
00:16:32.940 from people
00:16:34.720 generally presumed to be on the right
00:16:36.520 in Britain. Then we've also got
00:16:38.660 what have been described as so-called
00:16:40.640 Muslim patrols going around
00:16:42.420 beating up indigenous Britons
00:16:44.640 who by the color of their skin they suspect
00:16:46.760 of being English Defense League,
00:16:48.620 EDL
00:16:49.100 or going around
00:16:52.700 destroying pubs. 0.55
00:16:54.520 I suppose pubs are not the most Sharia law compliant buildings in Britain.
00:16:59.800 Actually, the last time I was back there, 0.99
00:17:01.680 the pubs I ended up in were owned and operated by people not like us.
00:17:07.980 Well, that's good integration.
00:17:09.580 Once they're serving liquor,
00:17:10.580 we know they're integrated into Western civilization.
00:17:12.780 Local business people.
00:17:13.780 Yeah, I mean, and that's great.
00:17:16.380 But this has really heated up.
00:17:18.040 And then you had Britain's new prime minister.
00:17:22.420 Keir Starmer.
00:17:23.380 Starmer. 0.65
00:17:24.520 Coming out, not appealing for calm, but more or less saying on both sides, but really just targeting one side, the side of indigenous Britons who are angry about mass migration, getting out of control and the crime that often accompanies that.
00:17:41.400 Those that have participated in this violence will face the full force of the law.
00:17:48.260 The police will be making arrests, individuals will be held on remand, charges will follow and convictions will follow.
00:17:59.600 I guarantee you will regret taking part in this disorder, whether directly or those whipping up this action online and then running away themselves.
00:18:11.400 This is not protest. It is organized, violent thuggery. And it has no place on our streets or online.
00:18:22.460 Okay, so Starmer's address there, just pouring gasoline on the fire, not acknowledging that there's even two sides in this.
00:18:30.060 I mean, rioting is not the way to achieve positive political ends, no matter what, no matter how dire the problem is.
00:18:41.400 But, I mean, it is probably an inevitable result of decade after decade after decade of unchecked migration 0.99
00:18:48.800 and doing a less-than-stellar job at being able to integrate people from very different cultures in these kinds of numbers. 0.81
00:18:57.920 And people living in parallel societies side-by-side.
00:19:00.780 There's no go zones in Britain now, as there are in most major European cities.
00:19:04.980 I guess, to start with you, Nigel, you're still a subject, or subject or citizen, what's the proper term?
00:19:15.880 Well, I'd be proud to be a subject.
00:19:18.620 Okay, I'll tell you a subject of the king, but, you know, you're a U.K. citizen.
00:19:24.560 Oh, I guess no longer a European citizen. Congratulations.
00:19:29.740 But your initial reaction to how this all got going and the government's initial reactions to it.
00:19:34.980 Okay, you have just unwittingly opened the faucet.
00:19:39.200 We've reached a whole bunch of recollections here, Derek.
00:19:42.760 This actually dates from the early 1950s.
00:19:45.920 What happened was that Great Britain at that time, largely, almost entirely white, needed nurses.
00:19:56.440 And so there were nurses available in Jamaica, and they arrived, and they took up residence,
00:20:02.880 and they brought their people with them.
00:20:05.480 And the process of immigration post the empire began.
00:20:11.840 They were followed in due course by people from the Indian Empire, as was.
00:20:17.460 And so it went on.
00:20:18.940 And by the late 1960s, there was serious concern among ordinary people
00:20:26.540 that the nature of the country was being changed.
00:20:30.180 and a famous conservative politician
00:20:33.100 by the name of Enoch Powell
00:20:35.180 made a speech which was at first ignored
00:20:38.740 but which was later rediscovered
00:20:40.920 in which he said,
00:20:41.980 I see the Tiber flowing with much blood.
00:20:45.720 This is not going to end well.
00:20:47.860 It was the gist of the speech.
00:20:50.040 And of course what we're seeing now
00:20:51.420 is the Tiber flowing with much blood.
00:20:55.560 Now this is not because people are ill-willed
00:21:00.100 it is because people have not been listened to.
00:21:04.740 Democracy depends upon the consent of the government.
00:21:10.560 And any time anybody took exception to immigration,
00:21:14.720 they were immediately condemned as a bad person,
00:21:18.440 a hate monger, or some other...
00:21:22.800 Ism.
00:21:23.680 ...expletive that, you know, you wouldn't call your friends.
00:21:27.200 and somehow it was just assumed by the politicians running the country
00:21:33.140 and this goes across parties and through decades
00:21:36.380 well maybe it's not such a good thing
00:21:40.060 but we don't have an effective answer to it
00:21:43.080 and we don't want to be called racist
00:21:45.920 therefore we will do nothing and leave it to the next generation
00:21:50.320 meanwhile people were starting to become resentful
00:21:53.780 And it's not merely that you don't want your kids dating people of other races.
00:22:00.380 It's when folks just roll themselves across the channel and say, here am I, pity me the poor immigrant.
00:22:07.860 Now give me, oh, let's see, some housing, some money for food, some medical care.
00:22:13.040 My kids need to go to school.
00:22:14.920 And you have these huge numbers making demands upon a population that never asked for them to come here.
00:22:23.300 When you point that out, you're still told,
00:22:25.500 well, that's being spirited.
00:22:26.960 I mean, these poor people, yeah, they probably are poor people.
00:22:30.660 There are some terrible places in the world.
00:22:34.220 But that doesn't mean that the government
00:22:37.980 shouldn't take control of the situation and deal with it.
00:22:42.140 And instead, they have chosen to excoriate the people
00:22:46.220 who say that they should take control of the situation.
00:22:50.140 and it's just like pumping steam into a boiler
00:22:53.620 until eventually, with no safety valve, the thing blows up.
00:22:57.740 That's what you're seeing in England today.
00:23:01.720 Corey, maybe you can speak to the reaction from the government,
00:23:07.200 the Prime Minister's speech which we showed there,
00:23:10.300 really just saying there's bad guys here,
00:23:14.900 and the bad guys are not radical Islamists patrolling British streets,
00:23:19.660 beating up indigenous Britons, it is the indigenous Britons who are rioting.
00:23:27.540 And I agree, that's not the way to conduct yourself in this. 1.00
00:23:31.140 I mean, I guess it's finally gotten people's attention, but still, that's not the way you go about it.
00:23:36.340 But there are clearly two sides here, both employing violence and just saying,
00:23:43.940 like, you will be stopped, and we're coming down for you, and we're completely ignoring the other side in this.
00:23:49.660 I mean, it seems to have really thrown just gasoline onto the flames, and it's made the
00:23:56.240 riots much, much worse. They should have been very carefully, at least, just trying to defuse this,
00:24:00.940 not inflame it. I mean, these are race riots. There's no beating around the bush. That's what
00:24:05.100 this is, and it's dangerous, and it's terrible for everybody. There's going to be innocent people
00:24:09.760 hurt. There's going to be, I mean, I've seen you, we've seen the footage of, yeah, and I can't stand
00:24:15.020 riots. They always drive me nuts because the losers come out, the violent people come out,
00:24:19.140 We've seen white or non, I've seen breaking into stores and stealing things. 0.59
00:24:23.200 It has nothing to do with the cause. 0.97
00:24:24.300 They just want to tear the house down.
00:24:26.580 And when you start taking sides on something like this, you're going to inflame both sides.
00:24:31.420 Because one's going to feel victimized and one's going to feel empowered.
00:24:35.840 But it shows, as Nigel's saying, too, how deeply entrenched the attitudes are, the political cowardice, the fear,
00:24:42.480 in even being able to address what the underlying issues are
00:24:47.200 that have led this into the powder keg that it is.
00:24:50.380 I mean, and these things build, and we saw it outside of St. Louis
00:24:54.820 in the United States, if we want to get more domestic.
00:24:56.840 When you've got too much division, it builds and builds,
00:24:59.560 and it takes just a small provocation before it blows.
00:25:03.900 And they've been kicking this can down the road,
00:25:06.220 and for the government to still kind of keep that same approach
00:25:09.320 of saying, shut up, you're not being tolerant, you're being racist.
00:25:13.800 You're only going to make it worse.
00:25:15.200 That's the attitude that built this.
00:25:16.900 You've got to come up with a new attitude if you want to defuse it.
00:25:20.080 Corey, there's one thing that I have not seen in all of this coverage
00:25:25.760 is the trigger incident in which this Rwandan young man,
00:25:32.640 black, knifed
00:25:35.060 three, killed
00:25:36.860 three, stabbed to death
00:25:38.980 three little white girls 1.00
00:25:40.400 I have yet to hear that described 1.00
00:25:43.000 as a hate crime
00:25:43.900 that one for example 1.00
00:25:46.860 I would like to think still
00:25:48.900 a lunatic 1.00
00:25:50.500 kid, a sick one 0.99
00:25:52.300 a murderous, awful person
00:25:54.260 he was the one who just happened to be there
00:25:56.940 light the fuse, but if that didn't happen
00:25:58.640 I don't know if that was hate motivated or just
00:26:00.540 the lunacy of one individual happened to have been black, but it led to that's the fuse has now been 0.87
00:26:06.320 lit. And if it wasn't that, it might be another week where a young woman is molested or a shop 0.84
00:26:14.560 is robbed or something else. Like the situation was there. This was the trigger. And it was a
00:26:19.300 horrific one. I mean, every society hates seeing the murder of children. And unfortunately, a lot
00:26:25.200 of the rumor mill jumped into things too. And that's what I'm saying. This is bad. This is
00:26:28.760 really bad. When the other rioters are marching on mosques, most of the attendees in the mosques
00:26:33.880 weren't interested in assaulting people. And they're going to be victims as well.
00:26:38.880 Switch the races around and you've got a hate crime.
00:26:41.380 Yes, yes. If it had been targeted, absolutely. And I'm certain the reaction from that crowd too,
00:26:48.020 if it had been a 17-year-old white guy went into a mosque and murdered three young
00:26:52.580 children in there, and the riots would probably begin then too, because that tension
00:26:57.560 is just there waiting for the excuse.
00:27:00.560 So, if nothing positive is, at least one thing, I think,
00:27:06.120 sort of perversely positive has come from this,
00:27:08.800 and that is exposing the totalitarian nature of the British state right now,
00:27:13.180 that they are arresting people for speaking about this issue on social media.
00:27:20.160 People who aren't encouraging rioting and violence,
00:27:22.720 but who are speaking, perhaps forcefully nonetheless, on the issues surrounding it.
00:27:28.940 They're being arrested and charged, and this was on the direct orders of the new Prime Minister,
00:27:36.300 for inciting violence, for inciting hate.
00:27:40.620 They've even said, I think it was the minister responsible for courts,
00:27:44.080 I guess that's roughly analogous to a minister of justice here,
00:27:46.980 saying that even retweeting a statement that could, you know, be a little too spicy,
00:27:54.400 just talking about the issues, retweeting something can get you arrested.
00:27:58.480 And that they want to extradite people from outside the UK who are commenting on this.
00:28:03.560 I'm not expecting an extradition notice coming from me anytime soon, although you never know.
00:28:08.560 But, Nigel, you're a UK citizen. I mean, who knows?
00:28:12.280 if you said something
00:28:14.160 too spicy, I mean, all of a sudden
00:28:16.020 the consulate here in Calgary could be
00:28:18.100 getting a message to pass to the local police that we need
00:28:20.120 to extrate you to the UK
00:28:21.960 to stand trial for speech
00:28:24.000 crimes. And I thought
00:28:26.180 it was going to come to Canada first.
00:28:28.680 Yeah, I mean
00:28:29.900 people
00:28:31.240 were charged in the Freedom Convoy for
00:28:33.800 speech. Most of those have all
00:28:36.040 been thrown out
00:28:36.800 but the UK
00:28:39.840 seems to have gone down a very dangerous path here.
00:28:42.000 we're simply speaking about the issues surrounding this,
00:28:45.120 can get you perhaps serious jail time now.
00:28:48.140 Well, you know, Derek, you started this segment by talking about the English Civil War.
00:28:52.680 In many ways, the mentality driving what the British government is doing now under Keir Starmer,
00:29:00.720 and by the way, I don't think it would have been terribly different under his predecessor,
00:29:03.960 but quite similar in mentality to the Puritan-
00:29:11.960 presbyterians who rebelled against the king the king was not an easygoing guy but well he was
00:29:18.520 he was obstinate and refused to deal with parliament and he raised taxes that was what
00:29:23.240 he did without the consent of parliament without the consent of parliament which again goes to show
00:29:27.880 that a good government always rests upon the consent of the government of the government
00:29:33.320 and that's what's been missing in great britain for so many decades um i i guess i'm not going
00:29:41.480 and I get into a deep comparison of the English Civil War with you, Corey,
00:29:46.040 but I think it's perversely almost a positive that's come out of this
00:29:52.720 that it's exposing the genuinely, and I don't use this word lightly,
00:29:58.180 everybody throws words like this around too lightly,
00:30:00.100 but the genuine totalitarian nature of the British government right now,
00:30:07.300 perhaps the British state itself, that they would begin arresting people for social media posts,
00:30:13.400 even retweeting social media posts, and even want to extend the reach of that beyond their own borders
00:30:19.680 and extradite people. And they've said this quite explicitly.
00:30:23.720 It's exposing it, but I don't know if it's going to be a positive development.
00:30:27.080 It's also exposed the pressure it was on.
00:30:28.900 What the government wants to do is, as Nigel says, it's like steam building up,
00:30:31.340 they want to put a cork back into it, is what they're doing.
00:30:33.340 You know, they're trying to shut up people who are speaking up as to why this has gotten where it is,
00:30:37.440 and they just want to quell it all back into that vault,
00:30:40.440 which, of course, is only going to lead to a bigger explosion.
00:30:43.380 Yeah, this can and will get a heck of a lot bigger
00:30:46.600 if the government thinks that quelling speech is how they're going to calm the people
00:30:50.820 who are willing to riot already.
00:30:53.180 So this is going to end badly.
00:30:55.180 I honestly don't know how this ends.
00:30:56.940 No, it doesn't look good.
00:30:59.540 Yeah.
00:30:59.740 Okay, well let's bring it back to this side of the ocean here. The U.S. presidential race is apparently a race again. I mean, it looked even pre-Biden-Trump debate that Trump was really headed towards a win, and then with the debate and then the assassination attempt, Trump looked like he was rolling to an 84-style Reagan landslide, like he was just going to kill it.
00:31:29.740 But, you know, the Democrats did what they inevitably were going to do.
00:31:34.480 The Democratic Party undemocratically selected their Democratic candidate, Kamala Harris.
00:31:40.800 No primaries. No one actually got to vote for her. 1.00
00:31:43.100 It'll just be elites of the party coronating her at the upcoming convention here.
00:31:48.940 And she's selected as her candidate for vice president, the Minnesota governor, Tim Waltz.
00:31:56.440 Tim Waltz. Interesting guy.
00:31:58.780 I mean, he's got a bit of a record, but so does anyone ever running, but he's very interested. 0.57
00:32:07.240 Speaking of riots, he seemed, as governor of Minnesota during the BLM riots, to almost be encouraging them.
00:32:14.300 I mean, there's footage of his wife, first lady of the state, saying she kind of liked smelling the burning tires to remind her of what's going on out there. 0.80
00:32:24.800 Bizarre stuff.
00:32:26.940 But I'll start with you, Corey.
00:32:28.780 polls have tightened. Trump is still
00:32:31.580 doing better. I mean
00:32:33.480 the
00:32:33.860 popular vote is
00:32:37.400 very tight. Trump is still leading
00:32:39.340 in most of the swing states, but
00:32:41.020 even those are tightened up now.
00:32:43.880 Do you think this is just a temporary balance
00:32:45.380 because they got rid of the guy who can't think?
00:32:48.260 I think it's a temporary
00:32:49.480 one because Kamala can't think all that 1.00
00:32:51.580 well either. You notice that even 1.00
00:32:53.500 though the media... She knows what room she's in and what 0.95
00:32:55.360 plane to get on. True, yeah. She's 0.78
00:32:56.840 She can get her shoes on and eat solid foods.
00:33:00.700 But you notice that she hasn't been out very much since this whole coronation.
00:33:06.280 The media has done the full court press.
00:33:07.640 The party's done it.
00:33:08.540 The donors have done it.
00:33:09.920 But they're not putting a heck of a lot of Kamala out there because they're trying to 1.00
00:33:13.780 retrain the queen of platitudes into being able to speak like a presidential candidate. 1.00
00:33:19.540 So I think they've got to bounce.
00:33:20.880 Well, there's no doubt they've got to bounce.
00:33:22.140 But whether or not that's going to withstand the campaign in the next couple of months, I have doubts.
00:33:29.180 But the other thing with the American politics that always astounds me, it's always close.
00:33:33.420 You know, as polarized as it is, it's always within just a couple percentage or a couple of states or something.
00:33:39.580 I don't think we're ever going to get an 84 landslide like that again.
00:33:42.140 No. So, you know, I wouldn't be making bets on this thing right now.
00:33:46.140 But I do think that her current bounce is that. It's a bounce and it's temporary.
00:33:50.320 it's going to take more to make people realize 1.00
00:33:53.080 or think that she's presidential material 1.00
00:33:55.400 once they get to know her 0.85
00:33:56.440 well that's the reason why they don't
00:33:58.860 she's not answered a question
00:34:00.400 from the media
00:34:01.760 and it's a friendly media don't forget
00:34:04.140 but not since they announced her as the 1.00
00:34:06.520 heiress apparent
00:34:07.640 and that's probably because they don't want 1.00
00:34:10.160 some smart ass reporter 1.00
00:34:12.360 asking is she still 1.00
00:34:14.960 in favor
00:34:16.700 of getting rid of private health insurance 1.00
00:34:18.960 is she still 1.00
00:34:19.740 going to want to confiscate firearms 1.00
00:34:23.280 through a Canada-style mandatory gun buyback program. 0.93
00:34:27.180 Is she still... 0.64
00:34:28.280 Well, hopefully she'll be as successful as the Canadian one,
00:34:30.300 which is confiscated precisely zero guns today.
00:34:34.700 There's about a dozen things that she has said
00:34:37.100 which are deeply offensive to, I would think,
00:34:40.160 a majority of the American population,
00:34:44.760 whether they're registered liberals or registered Democrats
00:34:47.280 or registered Republicans.
00:34:49.740 You know, she's on tape supporting the riots in the summer of 2020,
00:34:53.440 and now she's got a vice president candidate who spoke very favorably
00:34:58.440 of people who burn buildings and destroy stuff. 0.95
00:35:02.160 So they don't want her out there.
00:35:04.760 They just want to present this image of the way they want to present it,
00:35:11.760 of this sort of happy, snappy, cheerful, heaven help her for the laugh,
00:35:17.020 but you know the at least you can't blame her for for that but sunny ways sunny way she's she's the 0.99
00:35:24.620 true candidate for the for the united states in uh november of 2024 they don't want to interrupt 0.96
00:35:31.100 that well what do you think explains uh is this what you call the dead cat uh dead cat bounce
00:35:38.220 well you know you drop something even even the dead count dropped from a high
00:35:42.860 high enough height even a dead cat will go like that it could apply i mean i think this this
00:35:49.900 applies so i've heard it's it's it's it's a very colorful political term for the dead cat bounce
00:35:55.820 that like even a dead cat will give you a little bounce and maybe that's that's i mean i mean trump
00:36:02.460 should be a beatable candidate should be but the democrats have gone so far off the deep end and
00:36:07.820 and their candidate until extremely recently couldn't think. 0.98
00:36:14.580 So they've got Kamala, she's shiny, she's new. 0.98
00:36:19.580 So how much staying power has she got? 1.00
00:36:21.760 She needs a lot of coaching. 0.99
00:36:23.020 As Nigel said, that's why they're keeping her
00:36:24.480 behind closed doors, because there's a bunch of them
00:36:26.600 we know that are waiting with those tough questions
00:36:29.120 and she's gonna have to answer them or she won't
00:36:32.120 and it's not gonna fare well for her.
00:36:33.580 I mean, again, that's why Trudeau comes to mind.
00:36:36.980 she puts out incomprehensible word salads whenever she's cornered. 0.86
00:36:41.240 I mean, she just blathers, and it usually completely... 0.99
00:36:43.500 She's unburdened by the rules of the English language.
00:36:46.120 Yeah, so, but they are not going to be satisfied with that down there.
00:36:49.280 They don't have the compliant, I mean, there's a media bias,
00:36:52.240 but they don't have the CBC, CTV that will just let Trudeau get away
00:36:55.180 with giving word salad three answers in a row. 0.96
00:36:57.020 The next reporter's going to badger her again and again and again.
00:37:00.680 So we'll see. We'll see how well she responds to what I think
00:37:03.300 is probably some intensive political Navy SEAL-type training 0.87
00:37:07.460 behind closed doors to try and get her ready to deal with this.
00:37:11.080 Let's talk about the VP candidate, Nigel.
00:37:13.740 He's obviously pretty extreme left,
00:37:18.480 but culturally, he's not fitting into the squad.
00:37:25.760 He sort of looks like the president of the local Rotary Club, doesn't he?
00:37:28.640 Yeah, you see, he at least appears like a normal guy.
00:37:31.720 He's been National Guard for, like, 20 or 25 years or something.
00:37:35.840 I mean, it seems, by the modern standards of the Democratic Party, like a normal guy.
00:37:41.200 Yeah.
00:37:41.680 Well, and I'm sure that that's why he's been selected.
00:37:46.900 It was interesting to look at who else she might have chosen.
00:37:51.900 She could have taken Shapiro, the governor of Michigan.
00:37:55.720 Well, we know why that couldn't be.
00:37:58.040 Well, we do, don't we?
00:37:59.260 The very name suggests it, but there is a guy who actually,
00:38:03.920 I'm kind of glad he's not a vice presidential candidate.
00:38:07.120 He is smart.
00:38:08.860 He could do us some good.
00:38:10.400 This chap has the appearance of being your Uncle Fred,
00:38:16.020 decent fellow, trustworthy,
00:38:18.600 and some people, that's about as far as they look.
00:38:22.220 And so the fact that he actually borderline supporting revolutionaries
00:38:27.260 during the riots that you mentioned,
00:38:29.260 It just won't be played up or won't be heard by everybody who listens to the mainstream media
00:38:35.180 because they're not going to report that.
00:38:37.640 That's what's going on here is the very, very, this is, it's insidious.
00:38:42.780 And we have the same thing in this country.
00:38:44.240 We have a media that has a point of view, and that's what they play to.
00:38:48.700 And so the idea that somehow we have a free, independent press,
00:38:53.280 people form their ideas themselves from the facts that are offered to them,
00:38:57.120 It's no more true down there than it is in Canada.
00:39:00.500 Corey, most people have done a lot of research into do the vice presidential candidates actually have much of an impact on the race.
00:39:10.040 And most of the evidence says no.
00:39:12.660 There's some exceptions.
00:39:14.340 Sarah Palin, because she was such an unorthodox choice, put it that way, gave an initial bounce to the McCain campaign.
00:39:23.440 but then as she became more exposed under the bright light of media, 1.00
00:39:28.400 became a drag on it.
00:39:30.560 But, you know, generally it doesn't impact much outside of perhaps their home state,
00:39:35.860 which is why, you know, your VP pick is balancing a number of things.
00:39:39.740 You want to maybe have a VP from a swing state,
00:39:42.400 but you also might be correcting for demographic issues.
00:39:45.820 So, you know, if you're going to have a woman of color,
00:39:48.540 you probably want to get a guy who looks, you know, a white guy who looks like he's president of the local Rotary Club.
00:39:55.120 But he is not from a swing state. He is from Minnesota.
00:39:58.600 I think, correct me if I'm not, Nigel, Ronald Reagan lost only one state in 1984, and it was Minnesota.
00:40:04.820 I can't confirm that, but it was a landslide.
00:40:08.280 Yeah, but I think Mondale was from Minnesota.
00:40:10.600 But Minnesota is, for one reason or another, generally considered a pretty blue state.
00:40:16.540 or maybe it is kind of, it's kind of become maybe a swing state again,
00:40:19.920 but J.D. Vance, Ohio, the ultimate swing state since Florida moved out of swing state into deep red territory.
00:40:29.660 Do you see on balance either of the VP candidates being able to give either presidential candidate a significant boost of any kind at this point, or is it a wash?
00:40:40.040 I think they were both considered the same sort of things that you're talking about.
00:40:42.800 I mean, they sit in rooms and juggle the demographic advantages, disadvantages.
00:40:47.320 You rarely see a VP candidate, somebody who's going to outshine the presidential candidate.
00:40:51.480 They do want them just to be innocuous in the background.
00:40:53.920 I mean, that was part of the problem with Palin.
00:40:55.440 Yeah, it's a bit of a bounce.
00:40:57.000 You're hearing a heck of a lot more about her and then the downside of her versus your presidential candidate. 0.99
00:41:02.280 Better to have somebody who's just kind of quietly back there and not causing damage or making waves.
00:41:08.020 Do you think that's why they put Vance there on the Trump campaign?
00:41:10.960 Vance, he's an odd one. He might make waves, but he's not going to outshine Trump in standing out.
00:41:18.020 Yeah, you've got a very bombastic candidate there, so you don't really have to worry about it.
00:41:21.320 I think there they were going for youth. Like, it's the first millennial to be on the president.
00:41:25.640 Poor Gen X. They skipped right over Gen X. They went right from boomer to millennial. Sorry, Gen X. 1.00
00:41:30.820 Yeah, and they did, I think, want to hit that, you know, kind of south interior area where you're dealing again with Virginia and Pennsylvania 0.94
00:41:38.300 and Kentucky and Ohio.
00:41:41.320 I mean, there's a lot of people there
00:41:43.840 feel underrepresented within the country
00:41:46.220 and talked down to.
00:41:47.500 That's something that's always gets to them.
00:41:49.720 That's where Trump had appeal with them before.
00:41:51.480 So Vance entrenches that a little more.
00:41:53.260 Well, he does.
00:41:53.920 And the other thing about Vance is that,
00:41:57.000 I mean, let's face it, Trump is 78.
00:41:59.340 Yeah.
00:42:00.180 He could die, even if the...
00:42:02.560 It was less likely than Biden,
00:42:03.640 but he is old enough that he could just go.
00:42:06.400 Although it seems more likely to be from a bullet
00:42:08.120 than from uh from the stroke that's also true sadly but if vance becomes president how do
00:42:15.640 you feel about that a lot of people says well actually it seems like a pretty straight up
00:42:22.520 decent sort of a man and uh i think that's a that could well be considered for the advanced team in
00:42:30.520 our just very last minutes here let's talk about women's olympic boxing uh now there's two high
00:42:37.880 profile cases of let's just say not quite women uh who are boxing uh in the olympics this time uh
00:42:46.600 there's the uh algerian person uh name i don't recall the name uh but she's the most that was
00:42:53.480 the more famous yeah of the two that one's gotten more pictures but then there is also
00:42:57.400 lin yu ting if i i probably got that wrong but that's the closest i can get uh lin yu ting uh
00:43:04.360 Also, XY chromosomes, which, according to science, makes you a male, has won the gold in female Olympic boxing.
00:43:16.620 Well, she's going to get a medal of some color. 0.54
00:43:18.280 Oh, yeah, she's going to gold, so she's going to be at least bronze.
00:43:21.500 That's the very least, yeah.
00:43:22.240 So she's going to fight, she's going to the medal rounds.
00:43:27.760 She's not in the same weight category, so she's going to be fighting.
00:43:32.260 Do we know the name of the Algerian dude?
00:43:35.120 Oh, we did.
00:43:37.900 I don't know.
00:43:38.540 But we know who we're talking about.
00:43:41.920 And the Algerian one, I think, that one is going to go to the gold medal match. 0.97
00:43:47.840 Yes. 0.96
00:43:48.440 So one way or another, someone, let's just say persons with XY chromosomes, 0.84
00:43:54.720 take over, argue with me on that one, is going to be, someone with XY male chromosomes is going to be the winner of either the gold or the silver in the Olympic women's boxing in that weight category, and Lin Yu Ting is going to be fighting for one of the medals here.
00:44:18.200 So, I mean, well done, ladies. 0.91
00:44:21.880 Sorry, this is, the old boy's got to win again. 0.98
00:44:24.900 And that should have been the only determinant left,
00:44:26.580 because we can surgically alter things,
00:44:27.960 people can identify as such, whatever else.
00:44:29.960 Just stick to the genetics.
00:44:31.460 Does the person have this or that? 0.99
00:44:32.820 Because that is actually binary, get over it. 0.63
00:44:36.080 There's male and female. 1.00
00:44:37.540 There's physiological distinctions. 1.00
00:44:39.880 And now that you're not going to allow an XY chromosome 1.00
00:44:41.940 to disqualify somebody, yeah, women's sports are done. 1.00
00:44:44.520 Give it up. 1.00
00:44:45.640 If you can't stop it based on that, it's over.
00:44:48.600 So the Algerian boxer, Imani Khalif,
00:44:54.040 she said, excuse me,
00:44:57.900 advances to the gold medal bout. 0.96
00:45:00.720 If she wins, what is that going to...
00:45:03.440 He, she...
00:45:04.500 It's hard to keep straight.
00:45:06.220 Whatever.
00:45:06.760 Well, you know, that's the point, isn't it?
00:45:09.360 Should that person be competing in that?
00:45:13.000 In that case, I mean, it's more nuanced than it appeared at first glance.
00:45:17.760 This is not, you know, macho man Randy Savage putting on a dress to beat up some women.
00:45:23.520 Someone who developed differently.
00:45:26.960 And I think we could be sympathetic there, but at the end of the day, we have to be fair and be governed by basic, you know, the leftists like to say this, follow the science.
00:45:37.060 Well, they never follow the science when it doesn't suit them.
00:45:39.460 And this is just a simple fact of biology, that this person has XY chromosomes, which makes you more male than not.
00:45:49.600 Whatever other developmental issues took place, and I actually feel bad for this person that such a private issue has become a global headline.
00:45:58.820 I mean, that's got to be unpleasant.
00:46:02.760 You know, some people might be happy for it, like the poor French Hyde Show, Paul Vulture.
00:46:08.600 He was probably happy to have his junk in the headlines.
00:46:10.960 His disc card's full now.
00:46:13.560 He's the biggest winner at the Olympics.
00:46:15.900 He's the biggest something.
00:46:17.740 Well, we're going to have to cut Corey off right there
00:46:20.020 before this show goes any more off the rails.
00:46:22.040 But anyway, we're going to be watching these boxing matches.
00:46:27.780 May the best man win.
00:46:30.460 Thank you very much, gentlemen.
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