Western Standard - Carney folds to Trump

00:00:00.000 G'day, today is July 2nd, 2025.

00:00:28.940 I'm Derek Fildebrandt, publisher of the Western Standard, and you're watching The Pipeline.

00:00:33.600 I'm joined, as usual, by my two good friends here, Western Standard opinion editor, Nigel Hannaford.

00:00:39.460 I'm regular Wednesday slot.

00:00:41.460 Yes.

00:00:42.080 And Western Standard senior Alberta columnist, Corey Morgan.

00:00:45.060 Always a pleasure.

00:00:46.320 Actually, maybe a bit of housekeeping first.

00:00:48.720 We should announce that at a to-be-exactly-confirmed date in August,

00:00:55.940 Nigel Hannaford is going to be retiring

00:00:57.780 for a second time in his career.

00:00:59.980 Hail and farewell.

00:01:01.900 You've done a hell of a job,

00:01:03.820 and you've unfortunately just left me

00:01:05.820 with a pickle of trying to find

00:01:07.100 someone who can fill those shoes.

00:01:09.820 Good luck.

00:01:13.620 Well, we're going to miss Nigel very much,

00:01:17.060 but I don't know.

00:01:19.260 Well, for the confidence of yours,

00:01:20.680 it will be for another five, six weeks anyway.

00:01:22.820 Indeed.

00:01:23.020 okay well uh two great canadians uh bonnie henry and theresa tam are being honored with canada's

00:01:35.340 highest honor entrance into the order of canada we'll be talking about them and uh i i think we're

00:01:42.060 standing by uh don don cherry is being put in too right finally yeah sure yes yeah uh okay today so

00:01:49.740 So, yeah, the kind of Laurentian carême de la creme that is the governing body of the Order of Canada, deciding to put Bonnie Henry and Teresa Tam to join them in this highest of high honors.

00:02:04.200 Alberta announced just today it is creating its own police force.

00:02:09.940 I think it's called the Alberta Sheriff's Police Service.

00:02:15.560 Danielle Smith says this is not to replace the RCMP.

00:02:19.520 Critics of the sovereignty agenda say it is to replace the RCMP.

00:02:26.060 And people like myself who love the sovereignty agenda say, I hope it's to replace the RCMP.

00:02:34.480 The old Progressive Conservative Party of Alberta might be back.

00:02:39.400 two exiled uh mlas from the ucp have uh registered the name for the progressive conservative party

00:02:47.400 with uh elections alberta uh there might we'll get into if they actually technically will succeed

00:02:53.900 in that or not but they might um they have said that uh the ucp is so corrupt and so big spending

00:03:01.040 that the answer to it is to bring back the party with the highest spending and the most corruption

00:03:06.320 in the history of Alberta.

00:03:08.820 Before we get to that, though,

00:03:10.780 we're going to start, Nigel, with elbows up.

00:03:15.040 Mark Carney promising he's going to fight the bad orange man,

00:03:18.740 and we're going to do what we want, and he can't stop us.

00:03:22.340 And then he folded like a cheap tent in trade negotiations

00:03:25.600 just, I think, less than a day after saying

00:03:30.920 the digital services tax is here.

00:03:34.240 We're going to impose it on Canadian consumers using American products.

00:03:38.520 It's here forever, and Donald Trump can't stop us.

00:03:41.860 Trump walks away from negotiations.

00:03:44.240 Carney folded like a cheap tent.

00:03:45.840 I was just hoping that Mr. Trump's next demand will have something to do with supply and management.

00:03:53.660 So look, the digital services tax, I mean, it's actually a Trudeau-era legislation that was due to come into effect yesterday, June the 30th.

00:04:04.240 it was retroactive to 2022 but what it was it was to apply to companies that operate online

00:04:10.480 marketing and and online advertising services social media platforms

00:04:16.400 and streaming like netflix well this is how it would have gone supposing that you had actually

00:04:24.080 booked into a book booked into airbnb and then you had um when you got there you decide to sit

00:04:32.640 down and relax with with something from netflix and by the way you had amazon drop off something

00:04:39.760 or a or a fast food drop off something you'd have been paying three percent on all of that

00:04:45.280 yeah that's a digital services tax you order online you you pay the tax so the thing was

00:04:52.320 that everybody's oh well you know just fold it like a cheap wheat he certainly did fold he should

00:04:57.600 have but i mean the thing was it's not like this would have been taxing american companies no it's

00:05:02.240 That's kind of Canadians using it.

00:05:03.800 Canadians do use American companies.

00:05:05.680 That's like sort of putting a tariff on American food and then say, there, we showed them.

00:05:10.420 No, you didn't.

00:05:11.060 You showed us that we're now paying a dollar for something that used to cost 75 cents.

00:05:16.500 So this was never a good thing for Canadians, even if you sort of like the idea that people shouldn't be able to just come in and do business here without paying tax.

00:05:29.420 We would have been the ones paying the tax.

00:05:31.460 so that's what they did and when mr trump was notified about it told me i don't know maybe

00:05:38.800 howard levitt walked in and said you know what they're doing up there in canada digital service

00:05:43.320 tax and by the way sir it's retroactive to 2022 so some of your biggest fans are going to have to

00:05:49.480 come up with a couple of billion dollars to give mr carney and he said no deals off we're not talking

00:05:55.440 to those guys until they get rid of it and so it's gone so i think really the takeaway from this one

00:06:01.040 Derek, is if you want something, never mind

00:06:03.100 talking to your MP, never mind

00:06:04.860 talking to your lawyer, send a note to the White 0.97

00:06:07.000 House, and things

00:06:08.880 happen. Yeah.

00:06:11.620 The kind of

00:06:12.660 the beginning of this tax

00:06:16.580 came from Trudeau

00:06:19.040 before he became Prime Minister.

00:06:20.960 He was kind of talking about this, and

00:06:23.200 Stephen Harper,

00:06:24.640 we'll recall, talked about Trudeau's plan for

00:06:26.820 a Netflix tax, and the media

00:06:28.720 roundly laughed. They were rolling

00:06:30.980 in laughter at this crazy conspiracy

00:06:33.440 of Stephen Harper

00:06:35.180 claiming that Trudeau would impose

00:06:37.180 a digital

00:06:39.120 services tax or a Netflix tax.

00:06:41.680 And of course, they did impose

00:06:43.000 the Netflix tax. This has been coming down the pipe

00:06:45.220 for a long time. The Americans have been 0.92

00:06:47.180 unhappy about it. Under the

00:06:49.200 Biden administration as well.

00:06:51.840 They've been unhappy about it.

00:06:53.440 The Biden administration

00:06:54.460 did not really do much besides

00:06:56.980 huff and puff about it.

00:07:00.020 But

00:07:00.980 It was due to come in.

00:07:04.260 The Canadian government said this is our business, it's not America's business,

00:07:07.400 even though it acts as a de facto tariff against American products paid for by Canadians.

00:07:12.660 And the Canadian government is rightfully pointing out to the Trump administration that,

00:07:16.560 well, you know who pays tariffs?

00:07:19.720 It's American consumers who are making life more expensive.

00:07:22.820 That argument does not seem to have applied in reverse when the Liberals were talking about this tax.

00:07:28.180 um but this was largely pushed by the quebec cultural industry that likes to keep out anything 0.65

00:07:35.720 american um and then uh and we're just 24 hours before the liberals were adamant no this is here

00:07:43.880 to stay this is happening nothing you can do about it trump administration walked away from

00:07:48.140 the negotiating table and then they just folded cory the liberals i've seen put out some propaganda

00:07:56.300 around this claiming that they played trump here how have the liberals played trump here

00:08:03.620 they're trying to polish a turd to be blunt and you can't do it but they're trying to save a

00:08:09.320 little face where there's none to be saved i i guess there's there's people will take the

00:08:12.940 statements or the liberals at face value you know the the ones we see online they'll just believe

00:08:17.620 you know somehow do some mental contortionism to call this a win and uh they have no other

00:08:26.620 answer for it I mean it's a terrible loss it's a backtrack it shows weakness unfortunately in

00:08:31.820 the face of the guy who is the biggest bully on the international block right now and and we kind

00:08:36.940 of know that when you capitulate to a bully he doesn't stop he pushes further eventually

00:08:44.140 Carney has got to actually show

00:08:46.620 this elbows up thing of his

00:08:48.260 I mean, as we said, we're not too sad to see the end

00:08:50.640 of the digital services taxing anyways

00:08:52.500 It's a win for consumers

00:08:54.880 in Canada. It's a loss for the government

00:08:56.700 Yeah, but the point of principle on the part

00:08:58.760 of the government showing that they can be slapped

00:09:00.640 over on things they said were not going to ban

00:09:02.680 or in the course of 24 hours

00:09:04.520 you know Trump's just going to come for another bite at something

00:09:06.780 and they're really going to start building

00:09:08.580 a revenue problem soon because they were counting on

00:09:10.660 a big gouge out of this and they're not going to get it

00:09:12.540 $7 billion over five years, I think it was, wasn't it?

00:09:15.480 Yeah, something like that, or as much as I think I saw over, you know, $3 billion a year, perhaps.

00:09:19.280 It's hard to tell, but I mean, it's a big chunk of money when he's been spending like crazy,

00:09:24.080 and he's not cutting anything, and he's just going to be printing money.

00:09:29.100 They're in a bad position.

00:09:30.580 Well, let's talk about what might come next.

00:09:34.080 Let's pray Canada continues to get out-negotiated here,

00:09:37.820 because the more Trump demands in concessions from Canada,

00:09:42.500 the better it seems to be for Canadians.

00:09:45.760 Trump demanded that Canadians get a tax guide,

00:09:48.680 and we got a tax guide.

00:09:50.680 That's an odd thing.

00:09:53.800 But the next big pee under the mattress in these negotiations 0.55

00:09:59.300 is supply management, as you touched on, Nigel.

00:10:03.580 Canada's Soviet-style 0.70

00:10:05.940 quota, command and control system

00:10:08.120 of dairy, eggs, and

00:10:10.000 poultry. And it's

00:10:11.860 particularly most damaging

00:10:12.960 in the poultry, sorry,

00:10:15.660 in the dairy side

00:10:18.000 of it.

00:10:20.360 Trump?

00:10:21.220 No, one Wisconsin.

00:10:23.160 He won some of these

00:10:24.500 dairy, not Vermont,

00:10:26.580 but Wisconsin's the big one.

00:10:28.360 They want to be able to export 0.98

00:10:30.000 into Canada freely.

00:10:32.180 that's impossible with the trade

00:10:35.040 with the supply management system

00:10:37.200 they're demanding it go

00:10:38.640 now the liberals have said

00:10:40.500 it's not up for negotiation

00:10:42.460 it's off the table

00:10:43.740 elbows up

00:10:45.040 but they already said that about

00:10:48.020 digital services tax

00:10:49.340 but the liberals voted with the bloc 0.71

00:10:51.260 and half of the cowardly half 0.71

00:10:54.080 of the conservative caucus 0.86

00:10:55.680 to pass a bloc bill

00:10:57.680 that makes it illegal

00:10:59.120 to negotiate away supply management

00:11:03.700 and have any kind of free trade and dairy, etc.

00:11:06.700 But, ostensibly, the trade bill will be a bill,

00:11:11.060 and a bill can amend other bills.

00:11:13.220 So I'm not sure that bill that the Liberals just passed

00:11:16.480 with some of the other parties, including half the Conservatives,

00:11:19.100 actually is going to...

00:11:20.600 You can't stop them from talking about it.

00:11:22.920 No bill could stop politicians from negotiating it.

00:11:25.340 But the final deal will then be put into legislative form

00:11:28.200 to be brought before Parliament,

00:11:30.460 and that can simply abolish that bill that just passed.

00:11:34.880 Exactly.

00:11:35.660 It's just legislation.

00:11:37.200 You know, have you given any consideration

00:11:39.500 that just having sort of a chiro

00:11:41.660 across the bottom of the screen says,

00:11:43.980 got a problem with Canada?

00:11:45.580 Here's the White House number called gunner.

00:11:47.640 All right, we should do that, just to make a point.

00:11:51.240 And so the thing with supply management,

00:11:54.540 maybe one of you guys can understand,

00:11:56.220 tell me what it is that keeps it alive,

00:11:58.060 because there's something like 10 000 dairy farmers before i go any further i eat cheese i

00:12:02.940 like butter and i drink milk and it's a you know i got nothing but good things to say about well-run

00:12:08.700 professional farmers doing a good job but the thing is you have to buy into it you have to buy

00:12:15.500 the license it's like the way the taxis work you have to buy your license before you get in and

00:12:20.460 then you're told how much you can produce how much you can sell and what price you're going to get

00:12:26.220 for it so as long as they don't have expensive tastes they are extremely secure in what they do

00:12:33.660 good for them it's worked for a long time there's no animus here but there are 10 000 people

00:12:41.260 producing milk and butter in canada and there are 40 million people who need it and our need to pay

00:12:49.100 perhaps as much as five times the price if you go on to the government of

00:12:55.940 Canada website and look up the trade page you will find that they admit that

00:13:02.300 they pay let they charge as much as two hundred and thirty percent tariffs on

00:13:08.840 American dairy products that I guess what it takes to keep the Canadian

00:13:14.600 farmers competitive and secure. And I just say, you know, 230% is clearly too much. I don't know

00:13:22.280 whether 23% wouldn't be a bit much, but 230%, that $10 a pound, $9 a pound butter shouldn't be

00:13:31.460 costing $9 a pound. It should be costing a lot less. And I just filed a column on that, actually.

00:13:36.360 I mean, I do not understand, therefore, I understand that the dairy lobby has got an incredibly well-organized system for keeping MPs on side.

00:13:56.700 That's good for them, clever.

00:13:58.820 I admire something professionally done, but it's not working for the rest of us, and I don't know why nobody moves on it.

00:14:04.940 I got two kids.

00:14:08.060 My three-year-old still drinks hot bottles.

00:14:11.580 I go through so much bloody milk.

00:14:14.600 I've put...

00:14:15.560 Each one of my kids, I think, is put through a dairy farmer's kid through college.

00:14:21.060 I mean, it is criminal what we are paying, and a lot of our stuff is not great quality.

00:14:24.820 Like, butter? 0.99

00:14:26.240 Canadian butter is crap. 0.99

00:14:27.340 You've got to buy the European stuff if you want good butter. 1.00

00:14:29.560 And people don't see the whole cost of it.

00:14:31.900 When I owned my pub, one of my biggest sellers actually was pizza.

00:14:34.400 I sold loads of pizza.

00:14:36.180 I bought $10,000 a month worth of cheese.

00:14:39.180 Cheese is expensive.

00:14:40.160 That's the most expensive part of a pizza.

00:14:42.120 And we actually had a rebate program that was given to restaurants.

00:14:47.720 You had to register for it and they would knock off about 10% of the price for commercial mozzarella for my restaurant because they had a cheese smuggling problem happening in Montreal.

00:14:57.980 This is how bad it is.

00:14:59.260 This is how absurd as it is.

00:15:00.900 if you look it up, organized crime

00:15:02.760 mafia was smuggling cheese from New York

00:15:04.800 into Montreal, and

00:15:06.740 when you're talking $10,000... Which organized crime?

00:15:08.940 The mafia? The actual law?

00:15:10.660 Or Dairy Canada? Yeah, that's the other mafia, right?

00:15:13.280 You know, the guy's coming to your back door,

00:15:14.680 hey, I got some mozzarella here.

00:15:16.320 It's one car company undermining another.

00:15:18.360 You know, they were paying cash out the back door for cheese.

00:15:20.760 It's that, when the system

00:15:22.660 is collapsing that badly that you've got

00:15:24.460 underground cheese markets going on,

00:15:26.880 it's terrible. The irony here

00:15:28.840 used to be that we were,

00:15:29.860 we were distilling whiskey

00:15:32.040 sneaking it into the northern states

00:15:34.640 and now they're producing cheese

00:15:36.480 and sneaking it into this

00:15:37.780 government creates contraband

00:15:39.420 this supply system is just terrible

00:15:41.660 and judging by how seriously the government

00:15:44.320 takes the issue

00:15:45.300 I mean your decoy should be drugs

00:15:48.820 you know

00:15:50.400 I mean

00:15:50.820 yeah you won't get lunch from with pot

00:15:54.000 but as long as there's cheese hiding underneath all that weed

00:15:56.140 so what have we got

00:15:58.140 like speedboats full of cheese zipping across lakes who buried their ears and truckers but who

00:16:02.460 knows it might have been that exciting you know the cheese interdiction force with the dogs sniffing

00:16:06.200 it out across it's just bizarre but we also know the regional aspect quebec dominates the production

00:16:12.580 of the dairy industry and there's the only thing that makes federal government uh mps shiver more

00:16:18.700 than taking on indigenous people is taking on quebec with anything i mean speaking about 0.96

00:16:24.280 capitulation, where Quebec asks

00:16:26.220 for Quebec cats.

00:16:27.720 They've got these dairy farms in Ontario as well.

00:16:30.500 They're not siloed.

00:16:31.640 Quebec benefits most by having, 0.86

00:16:33.880 because the quota system locks in incumbent

00:16:36.000 players, and that has always been to the

00:16:38.240 benefit of Quebec proportionally. We can't expand

00:16:40.280 ours. I mean, Saskatchewan, Alberta, we've got

00:16:42.120 the space, the cattle, the feed.

00:16:44.040 We could be a dairy powerhouse,

00:16:46.220 but we can't expand our quotas.

00:16:48.000 Our dairy farmers, I get

00:16:49.740 hate mail from dairy farmers all the time,

00:16:52.180 and poultry farmers, when I

00:16:53.960 rail against supply management if you are in a supply managed industry in alberta you stand to

00:17:01.380 gain from the end of supply management particularly in dairy because you're not going to be subject

00:17:07.780 to the same kind of quotas anymore if you're good at what you're doing if you're not competitive

00:17:13.260 no matter where you are in canada the end of supply management is probably the end of your

00:17:17.260 farm but if you are competitive if you are good and you're in a position to expand your operation

00:17:23.120 with the end of the quota system,

00:17:25.240 you stand to make a lot of money.

00:17:27.020 Is he a much bigger operation?

00:17:28.080 And that's it.

00:17:28.780 It's a terrible, terrible policy.

00:17:30.600 And speaking of, like you're talking about,

00:17:31.720 Trump could save us from ourselves with this one.

00:17:33.640 Something that we couldn't accomplish domestically 1.00

00:17:35.540 over decades of this stupid policy, 1.00

00:17:37.620 maybe Trump is going to do it. 1.00

00:17:38.620 Well, he saved us on our military.

00:17:40.240 Canada is getting a better,

00:17:41.500 is going to rebuild its military

00:17:42.640 because Trump demanded it.

00:17:44.400 He's given us a tax cut from the DST.

00:17:47.700 We might get supply management.

00:17:50.580 I mean, he doesn't need to take over Canada.

00:17:51.940 And he's already dictating the policies here.

00:17:53.400 And so far, they're kind of for the better.

00:17:55.400 Doubles up.

00:17:57.400 Maybe he'll take on our immigration system next.

00:18:00.160 That could go different.

00:18:03.020 He's just going to start dumping them here on us.

00:18:05.760 Oh, God.

00:18:06.860 Yeah.

00:18:08.300 Okay.

00:18:10.520 Well, let's bring it real close to home here.

00:18:14.720 So the UCP removed from its caucus two MLAs.

00:18:19.540 Peter Guthrie.

00:18:20.420 He represents Airdrie Cochran.

00:18:23.280 He kind of went to war with Danielle Smith and the UCP over some of the questions around some health care contracts and the restructuring there.

00:18:35.640 Perhaps he's correct.

00:18:36.600 Perhaps he's not.

00:18:37.160 We haven't seen evidence of it, but maybe he's on to something.

00:18:39.720 I don't know.

00:18:41.200 The other one, not very well known.

00:18:43.680 He's from, I think, the Slave Lake region.

00:18:46.140 What's his name?

00:18:47.000 Sinclair.

00:18:47.620 Yeah, Sinclair.

00:18:48.480 Sinclair.

00:18:48.880 he was removed

00:18:50.660 Scott Sinclair

00:18:51.400 he was removed because he said he would not vote

00:18:54.200 for the UCP's budget, which is a confidence issue

00:18:56.700 if you don't vote for your party's budget

00:18:58.020 you are by convention, you can't be a part of it

00:19:00.960 it's not like, those are never a free vote

00:19:02.420 I think he went further, he actually voted with the NDP

00:19:04.640 against it, he didn't just not vote

00:19:06.660 no, he voted against it

00:19:08.280 yeah, so by

00:19:09.900 most things I think should be free votes, but the budget

00:19:12.640 never is, it's a matter of confidence, constitutionally

00:19:15.060 so these two guys

00:19:16.760 have been in exile for some time

00:19:18.680 sitting as independents uh cory uh they're telling us the bc party's back explain this

00:19:26.000 well you know this isn't new i mean we see this with conservatives when they go in exile you're

00:19:30.780 quite familiar with it it's a lonely place to be if you're just a one or two or three person

00:19:35.540 caucus in the corner of the legislature you get limited resources you have difficulty getting

00:19:40.140 time so in bc they formed a new party out there with the ones that have broken off and now these

00:19:46.700 two are announcing that they're going to form a party, I guess, to try and strengthen themselves

00:19:51.180 and maybe build something that they feel would bring people over. That's not that surprising,

00:19:56.520 really, when they've been sitting, as you said, in the wilderness, it doesn't look like they're

00:19:58.980 going to get back. But why they would want to go back to the sour PC brand I'm flummoxed with,

00:20:06.040 like, you're taking on the baggage of people who got basically kicked out in shame. You know,

00:20:11.380 people haven't forgotten Alison Redford's visage, and they don't look at it fondly. And you guys

00:20:16.480 are embracing that brand it reminds me of david orchard you know trying federally he just beat

00:20:21.020 himself against the wall over there this is a dead brand you're trying to resurrect at least

00:20:25.440 come up with a new party name and say it's something better but well you know of course

00:20:29.280 not only is it a dead brand but you have to wonder about the forethought that went into this because

00:20:35.140 i don't think that it is legally possible to revive that progressive conservative party okay

00:20:42.360 so there's a lot of it tells you

00:20:44.480 but it just tells you about this kind of

00:20:46.960 wisdom that went into this proposal

00:20:48.640 okay so

00:20:49.720 I don't want to get too deep into the weeds

00:20:52.940 but I fear I'm going to have to a little bit

00:20:54.820 because I was a part of the negotiations

00:20:56.680 that created the United Conservative Party

00:20:58.720 I know how it was structured

00:20:59.620 at that time you could not

00:21:01.800 formally merge political parties

00:21:04.580 in Alberta so

00:21:05.480 a smart lawyer guy

00:21:08.360 cooked up the idea that

00:21:09.720 because these parties

00:21:12.240 are also not-for-profit

00:21:13.800 corporations or societies under the

00:21:16.100 Alberta Societies Act,

00:21:17.960 you would create a new party

00:21:19.860 and the Wildrose

00:21:22.120 Party and the PC Party would be

00:21:24.520 owned by

00:21:26.460 the new party.

00:21:28.500 Because there's the not-for-profit

00:21:30.380 society or not-for-profit corporation

00:21:32.300 entity, and then there's the entity

00:21:34.000 registered with Elections Alberta.

00:21:36.520 They're more or less the same, but there's a

00:21:38.240 legal difference between them.

00:21:39.820 um and so the ucp owned the wild rose party it owned the pc party and ran a paper candidate

00:21:46.980 with no campaign to keep them registered through that first election the ucp won

00:21:51.620 and then they uh they amended the legislation to allow for a formal unification and at that time

00:21:59.420 the pc party the wild rose party then officially disappeared from being paper parties just gone

00:22:04.660 uh but one thing i remember in that whole process uh because we were looking forward to it in the

00:22:11.020 future so that it couldn't happen again is the new ucp would obtain the trademarks of the

00:22:17.980 progressive conservative party and the wild rules party um but elections alberta ruled uh i was able

00:22:24.960 to do this when i registered the freedom conservative party i was able to use the word

00:22:28.260 conservative but i argued that's distinct there's already two conservative parties on paper progressive

00:22:33.200 conservative and united conservative so no one has a monopoly on the word conservative so i

00:22:37.780 argued you could have the word freedom conservative and then afterwards as i was leaving and helping

00:22:42.660 bring together wexit with them uh we got in wild rose independence party which was distinct from

00:22:49.140 wild rose party or wild rose alliance because it had some modifiers in the name um

00:22:55.460 i am so elections alberta said that they can use the name progressive conservative association of

00:23:02.380 Alberta, which was the exact word-for-word name of the old PC party. That's an odd thing for

00:23:10.080 Elections Alberta to agree to, but even if so, this could run into legal problems on the other

00:23:15.700 side because the UCP owns the trademarks of the Progressive Conservative Party, and it owns the

00:23:20.980 trademarks of the Wild Rose Party. And so if you're trying to pass yourself off as the same thing,

00:23:25.820 you know, not Freedom Conservative or Wild Rose Independence, but as just Wild Rose or just

00:23:31.860 progressive conservative, there's a good chance

00:23:33.860 there's going to be some trademark issues there

00:23:35.540 independent from whatever elections Alberta decides.

00:23:38.840 So, for now,

00:23:39.860 the media is taking it as a granted

00:23:41.620 that, yes, they're going to be called

00:23:43.960 the PC Association of Alberta.

00:23:46.040 Maybe they do get away with it, but I'm

00:23:47.920 not convinced that this is the end

00:23:49.900 of it. I think the UCP's lawyers

00:23:51.920 are going to invoke their trademarks

00:23:54.140 here, and there's going to be a trademark dispute about

00:23:55.960 if they're allowed to be called that. And so, anybody

00:23:58.000 who contributes to the new entity is going

00:24:00.020 to see their money going into

00:24:01.800 a trademark dispute instead of

00:24:03.720 into active politics.

00:24:05.440 I guess that's for sure, but what

00:24:06.840 confidence can you have

00:24:09.600 in a couple of people who would embark

00:24:11.420 on a scheme like this?

00:24:13.460 It's strange. I mean, again, you'd think

00:24:15.520 they would have seen this.

00:24:17.360 It's going to be a tough task.

00:24:19.000 It's a two-member caucus

00:24:21.060 to have a party that's functional.

00:24:23.640 Why bring on a bunch more headaches and

00:24:25.360 baggage when the one

00:24:27.480 advantage you have is a clean slate, if you just

00:24:29.380 come up with something new.

00:24:30.240 yeah and well i i do get you know as i did you know tapping into a somewhat of a known brand

00:24:37.160 wild rose or conservative there's there's something to begin with there like the republicans are

00:24:42.020 tapping into a totally i guess it's kind of a new break but they took on baggage of a completely

00:24:47.940 different political party uh but they got some name recognition out of it um starting your brand

00:24:55.060 from absolutely nothing,

00:24:57.120 that's a huge task for

00:24:58.760 a small party. You know, you were in the

00:25:01.080 early Wild Rose. That took a long

00:25:03.120 time. It went through a few incarnations. It was

00:25:05.040 Alberta Alliance, and it was Wild Rose

00:25:07.000 Alliance, and then it was just Wild Rose,

00:25:09.360 and still your average person

00:25:10.980 had an outgone.

00:25:13.360 So I can see if these guys

00:25:15.100 wanted to call themselves something

00:25:17.160 conservative or progressive

00:25:18.900 something, but progressive conservative,

00:25:21.440 you're just trying...

00:25:22.920 I don't know. I think it's taken on a lot of baggage

00:25:24.920 And I'm not sure it's legally sound.

00:25:28.480 Lawyers are going to have to wade into that, who know more.

00:25:30.920 But I do know this was something very directly considered in the lead-up to

00:25:35.760 and during the negotiations that created the United Conservative Party

00:25:38.440 so that exactly this kind of thing could not happen.

00:25:42.620 I don't think they're out of the woods on actually calling themselves this yet.

00:25:45.640 It's sort of a, well, it's a rough one.

00:25:47.940 Same rationale of the Bolsheviks getting rid of the royal family in whole 0.77

00:25:52.900 and the descendants and the works just so you don't have

00:25:54.980 that seed there to pop

00:25:56.940 up and grow again, it's

00:25:59.020 been eliminated. Not as

00:26:00.880 vicious with

00:26:02.220 this, of course, but the point was to

00:26:04.920 make sure there's just no remnants of that party

00:26:06.920 to blossom again and become

00:26:08.960 a pain. So let's

00:26:10.440 talk up to either of you.

00:26:12.700 Is there a market for

00:26:14.540 a progressive conservative party?

00:26:16.660 We're now in a strict two-party

00:26:18.780 system. The left has

00:26:20.760 united without mergers, but the left has

00:26:22.800 most certainly united around the NDP in Alberta

00:26:24.980 the Liberals are dead

00:26:26.760 dead, the Alberta Party is

00:26:28.500 for all intents and purposes

00:26:30.360 finally dead, but the Alberta Party

00:26:32.400 was trying in the last two cycles

00:26:35.060 or three, three cycles

00:26:36.940 they were proclaiming

00:26:38.600 we are the heirs to the progressive

00:26:40.760 Conservative Party, in

00:26:41.760 2019 they got Stephen Mandel, former

00:26:44.560 PC Cabinet Minister and left wing

00:26:46.680 mayor of Edmonton

00:26:47.540 he led them from

00:26:50.560 four seats to zero

00:26:51.440 and they did

00:26:53.940 zero and then they've done zero again

00:26:55.880 I put

00:27:00.100 it that

00:27:00.620 there's no, like every other province

00:27:04.100 in western Canada

00:27:05.220 there is no market for someone in the mushy middle

00:27:07.860 between them, we're now clear center left

00:27:10.120 and clear center right parties

00:27:11.320 Well, I think there might be

00:27:13.960 room if we're going back to kind of the balance

00:27:16.000 we had in the 90s, but it's a real dangerous trip

00:27:17.920 to get there

00:27:18.480 I mean, the political makeup in Alberta then was actually a strong liberal opposition, a strong progressive conservative, and the NDP would have two to four seats on and off throughout.

00:27:30.860 But still, there was never quite a threat to the balance.

00:27:33.300 In fact, the liberals and NDP tended to scrap for their votes rather than the PCs, so the conservatives could kind of comfortably stay in power and have that opposition.

00:27:42.640 If that sort of balance could be reachieved, but the risk is where they're going to draw their, where are they going to draw their support from? If they come from the left, they pull their support from Ninchy because some people aren't necessarily comfortable with him or the NDP, then actually in some ways it could work okay.

00:28:00.340 They could get a couple seats, but the UCP would still dominate the legislature. 0.91

00:28:04.300 If they draw from the UCP, though, we know that their win was pretty darn narrow, and that could turn into something that brings the NDP in.

00:28:12.780 I think there's a possibility of a balance, but it just depends on where they draw their support.

00:28:17.220 So, Angel, new and small parties are always, they almost always fail.

00:28:23.980 Every once in a while, they succeed.

00:28:26.860 But in the modern history of Canada,

00:28:29.040 I cannot think of a single successful example

00:28:32.520 of a new party succeeding from the middle.

00:28:35.800 It's always from the margins.

00:28:37.520 Tom Flanagan wrote about this.

00:28:39.380 He called it invasion from the margins.

00:28:41.100 You have to peel off something from a flank,

00:28:45.220 the right flank or the left flank,

00:28:46.560 or in Quebec, it could be something ethnic

00:28:48.520 and linguistic politics.

00:28:50.160 But you have to offer something that no one else is

00:28:52.980 because the middle is where everyone's fighting.

00:28:56.120 It's like Switzerland trying to join the First World War.

00:28:59.200 They would just get crushed from both sides.

00:29:01.780 It's like joining as a third party in the First World War.

00:29:04.260 It'd be insane.

00:29:05.600 You have to join from one flank or another to ever successfully invade.

00:29:10.000 And even then, it normally doesn't work.

00:29:14.620 Switzerland must better hold the gold of both sides.

00:29:17.360 uh you know there's a it's a it's an unfortunate characteristic of the conservative mind

00:29:24.120 that we favor being correct according to our own preconceptions and you know i'm with you here and

00:29:35.580 here and here but not here so i've got to start my own party and that's it is the achievement of

00:29:43.380 the everybody who put the ucp together and who now put the the term premier into office they

00:29:52.660 managed to get past and say well the important things of these and the unimportant things can

00:29:59.360 stay unimportant and we'll deal with them if they come up and what you have here is very similar to

00:30:05.880 the problem federally where again conservatives federally separate

00:30:11.880 themselves out got to have a consistent position on this or that and it's

00:30:17.280 wonderful you live in a state of virtue that you never hold power and these

00:30:23.400 gentlemen bless their hearts I mean I and they may be right they may be wrong

00:30:27.780 I really don't know the issue well enough but there's if if they want to be

00:30:35.160 right, they can be right, but they won't be

00:30:37.260 elected. Okay,

00:30:39.200 but they're not leaving over

00:30:41.040 some great particular piece of

00:30:43.060 policy, as far as I can tell. No, they're not.

00:30:45.280 That's my point. We divide over little

00:30:47.220 things.

00:30:49.300 Tenaciously to

00:30:50.220 those little things.

00:30:53.200 We've had the Reform Party and the Wild Rose.

00:30:55.560 Successful breakaways on the

00:30:57.180 conservative side are

00:30:58.560 exclusively, exclusively,

00:31:01.440 not just in Alberta, but even federally,

00:31:03.560 exclusively on the

00:31:05.140 right flank of the party that is it is the rebellious side and sometimes it came from

00:31:09.480 Mary from the right and then as you put it out the Alberta party has played that mushy middle

00:31:13.480 game and they've had legacy media just loves them they've been the darlings of them for a decade

00:31:17.920 they just don't go they've never you've got to have something carved out but then that's part

00:31:22.860 of what Nigel's saying too this is going to be difficult for these guys because they don't have

00:31:25.940 a they are seeming to be looking at the Alberta party turf which is a path to nowhere and unless

00:31:32.320 you can find one big issue to cling to,

00:31:34.300 which they don't seem to have. It's not looking

00:31:36.160 good.

00:31:38.740 I mean, the only

00:31:39.840 big policy difference I see is that

00:31:42.340 Guthrie and

00:31:44.120 Sinclair, I guess the PCs,

00:31:46.900 they're unconditional federalists.

00:31:48.480 They sound kind of like

00:31:50.560 Jason Kenney in that any talk

00:31:52.540 of independence is treasonous, and

00:31:54.500 we want nothing to do with it.

00:31:56.580 And that's okay.

00:31:58.320 That's not what they're offering.

00:31:59.640 There was corruption and toxicity in the

00:32:02.300 party, you know.

00:32:04.160 I mean, okay, so, yeah, 0.91

00:32:05.720 the UCP is so corrupt,

00:32:08.220 we're going to sit under the banner 0.91

00:32:09.960 of the party that was the most corrupt

00:32:12.160 in the history of all Canada.

00:32:14.660 Like, we... It keeps circling back to that

00:32:16.280 bizarre choice of embracing the

00:32:18.240 pressure of conservatives. Yeah, or, you know,

00:32:20.520 you know, UCP is running a deficit,

00:32:22.160 something they should be slapped up for. So let's

00:32:24.320 sit under the banner of the party that

00:32:26.000 returned Alberta to deficits?

00:32:29.740 It's

00:32:30.180 just...

00:32:30.820 It just... I don't know.

00:32:33.460 Corey, you've got to get these guys on your show

00:32:35.240 because, I mean, there's... I'll try.

00:32:37.180 I mean, I already posted on X, oh, look who they're

00:32:39.120 trying to resurrect, and I had a picture of Redford

00:32:41.320 and Lukasik together just to keep in mind

00:32:43.120 everybody.

00:32:44.780 You had a better choice of getting them about half an hour ago.

00:32:47.440 Yeah, so we'll see.

00:32:49.080 I've had the one gentleman...

00:32:50.820 It'll be an easy interview, but you'll be fair

00:32:52.820 and reasonable. I'll certainly reach out.

00:32:55.160 It's worth talking about, absolutely. I'm curious.

00:32:57.220 I'll check. Yeah.

00:32:59.120 Okay, well, let's see what happens.

00:33:02.340 They might not get it under that name, though, in the end.

00:33:05.100 Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

00:33:06.460 But either way, they're creating a party, and good on them.

00:33:11.660 But also remember, that was just the name.

00:33:13.000 To actually create a party is actually fairly difficult in Alberta.

00:33:15.740 Yeah, that's a whole other analogy.

00:33:16.660 You generally, what you do is you take over a defunct party.

00:33:19.600 That's what I did.

00:33:20.460 You take over a defunct party, and you change its name and its constitution.

00:33:23.960 I think with two seats in the legislature, they might...

00:33:26.300 Is it two or three you need?

00:33:27.640 It's like three or four. Is it that many okay?

00:33:29.560 Because I know where the certain number of seats.

00:33:31.380 If you get official party status in the legislature, which is four,

00:33:33.920 then you get automatic party status.

00:33:36.140 Otherwise, you've got to petition and go through

00:33:37.660 that whole process. Yeah. Or you

00:33:39.660 have to run like 60 on candidate.

00:33:41.560 It's got to be over half of the amount running. Yeah, but if you want to have

00:33:43.780 your party

00:33:45.760 registered before in Electriam's,

00:33:47.640 which is kind of the idea of it, to organize

00:33:49.720 around it, you

00:33:50.860 need to do it by petition, which can

00:33:53.660 be done, but it's tough. Or you've

00:33:55.700 got to, I think, have four in LA.

00:33:57.640 Republicans did it with the Buffalo 0.58

00:34:01.800 Party. They grabbed that.

00:34:04.040 Wilder's Independence

00:34:05.040 Party was Freedom Conservative Party, which was

00:34:08.120 many days.

00:34:11.600 It's had many days.

00:34:14.240 There's a whole Alberta cottage

00:34:15.640 industry of this stuff, of which

00:34:17.360 we're guilty of participating.

00:34:20.520 Very guilty.

00:34:22.280 All I'm saying is have fun, guys.

00:34:24.400 Have fun.

00:34:25.300 It's not fun.

00:34:26.600 No, I like this chair better.

00:34:28.120 Yeah, it's a bit easier.

00:34:29.700 Okay.

00:34:31.180 Speaking of comfy chairs,

00:34:33.600 Bonnie Henry, the former

00:34:35.520 Chief Public Health Officer

00:34:38.800 of British Columbia,

00:34:40.020 and Theresa Tam,

00:34:42.520 Chief

00:34:43.840 Public Health Officer

00:34:46.000 of Canada and

00:34:47.320 Translator,

00:34:49.320 they are being appointed

00:34:51.500 to the Order of Canada, Corey.

00:34:54.000 I bureaucrats are getting the order of Canada for doing their job and people are questioning

00:35:01.720 whether they even did the job well or not it's unfortunate you know every country I mean it's

00:35:06.600 human nature I think we like to have awards recognition for our most outstanding citizens

00:35:12.820 or people who made a mark or made a difference and they have medals they have awards the order

00:35:17.420 of Canada is ours I think there's there's the different breakdowns there's the member of and

00:35:21.100 the fellow two and the officers yeah officers there's a few different levels of it but it

00:35:26.940 starts to really cheapen it when you're really kind of throwing it out so easily i mean it really

00:35:32.820 should be very very exclusive and i i know there's a lot of debate on whether or not bonnie henry or

00:35:38.420 theresa tam were good at what they did but even if they were good they're just bureaucrats who did 1.00

00:35:44.380 their job i i mean they got caught in the circumstances it was different but again

00:35:48.160 where Bonnie Henry, her job prior to COVID was trying to track down syphilis outbreaks at high

00:35:53.140 school dances. I mean, this is not a high level position as a health officer. Was that actually

00:35:57.820 what you did? Well, I mean, you're just tracking disease outbreaks wherever they might be.

00:36:02.280 That's one of the speculative ones. So, I mean, I guess it's landed more spotlight to their

00:36:11.280 positions from where they used to be in the basement area of the legislature as the health 0.61

00:36:15.020 If Premier Daniel Smith is watching, I want to nominate Corey for our next public health talk.

00:36:21.000 I don't want to do those interrogations, so maybe it is worth an order of Canada.

00:36:26.240 Somebody has to do it.

00:36:27.980 But it just is odd choices.

00:36:30.300 I don't know if they're trying to stir people up or if they really think these guys were heroes for just doing what was kind of in their mandate as bureaucrats.

00:36:38.600 It's a political statement.

00:36:40.000 It's an endorsement that that was the way to do it.

00:36:42.740 And if it happens again, that's the way we'll do it next time.

00:36:45.520 Alberta's officer didn't get, what was her name again with the bowl cut there?

00:36:49.520 They got fired Dina Hinshaw. 1.00

00:36:51.780 Hinshaw, yeah.

00:36:52.820 But that was kind of, that was some of the absurdity of the COVID time too.

00:36:56.580 I remember people were going around with Dina Hinshaw t-shirts on

00:36:59.740 and with a little superhero cape behind her, you know, Super Dina. 1.00

00:37:04.820 Thankfully, you know, unlike, you know, the Rachel took off 0.99

00:37:07.920 from what's her name with Friends, Hinshaw's haircut never took off

00:37:10.580 as a style following.

00:37:11.600 But these are just unusual people who were usually kind of backroom bureaucrats

00:37:17.160 that became public personas due to that period.

00:37:19.400 But whether that rates here or Canada, I find it pretty questionable.

00:37:23.180 Well, you know, I've got to draw your attention to Barry Cooper.

00:37:26.900 Dr. Barry Cooper, you know, he wrote an article.

00:37:30.100 We published it earlier this morning, and he asked this very question.

00:37:33.700 The motto of the Order of Canada is they sought a better country.

00:37:41.600 that's the so that it's in latin but that's what it means they seek a better country so then you

00:37:47.280 have to think if you get the order of canada it's because you were seeking a better country

00:37:53.360 is and he asked the question what is their vision of a better country then based upon

00:37:59.520 how they conducted themselves during the highly traumatic um covid uh you know this is and then

00:38:08.240 This is an endorsement by the government of Canada

00:38:12.420 who appoints people to the selection board

00:38:15.640 who can be relied upon to know what would be a better country.

00:38:20.540 They are now saying, these guys did great.

00:38:23.900 Here's your order of Canada each.

00:38:26.140 Anybody else who wants a guide on how to get things done,

00:38:30.840 how public health should be administered,

00:38:32.440 what is the relationship between the state and the citizen?

00:38:35.840 Is it one in which free citizens elect a government or is one where a government has authority over the citizens?

00:38:43.740 That's what this, there's a deeper significance to this award.

00:38:48.280 There's echoes here, I think, of when Henry Morgenthaler was given the order.

00:38:54.780 Whatever you think of him, whatever you think of the abortion issue, it was a decision for the Canadian establishment to put a stamp of approval on him and what he did.

00:39:05.840 uh and and try to end debate retroactively and i think it's somewhat succeeded i i i see this

00:39:13.640 as in some form the canadian political laurentian establishment uh fighting against

00:39:20.780 you know those of us who do not accept uh you know the official narrative here and say you know

00:39:28.380 they want to say overall yeah things were pretty good and we're going to honor those who were the

00:39:33.520 public faces of this. Yeah, I'm not sure

00:39:35.440 I would tie that to the Laurentian elite

00:39:37.540 particularly. There was a lot

00:39:39.540 of people in Ontario who didn't like this either

00:39:41.580 and it's more when

00:39:43.500 we get into economics and the

00:39:45.380 relationships between provinces

00:39:47.380 and the federal government where the Laurentian

00:39:49.440 thing and of course

00:39:51.200 unequalization is where that comes into

00:39:53.420 play. But I do think that there

00:39:55.540 is a spirit of authoritarianism

00:39:57.400 and a desire for control that animates

00:39:59.640 the people who do well

00:40:01.120 in the federal government. It is killing other senior

00:40:03.140 bureaucrats yeah they are saying this is the way we want it done thank you very much you two here's

00:40:08.660 your here's your little snowflakes but they toss it out to celebrities left right and center as

00:40:13.460 well obscure other players who get to that yeah there we go and they exclude others that really

00:40:20.740 says a lot about uh what they do you know like if i don't know i maybe i'll be wrong but like

00:40:26.420 Like, you know, if I asked Grok to make a video for me of the most Canadian guy in the world, it conceivably could spit out Don Cherry, and it doesn't even need to invent the guy.

00:40:37.280 You know, he's just an old-school hockey hoser, and, you know, he's never been a—not particularly political.

00:40:45.800 He's just been considered political because he has, you know, what are now considered to be retrograde old Canada views.

00:40:53.100 But it's a significant impact on our culture.

00:40:56.040 Huge!

00:40:56.420 he is a cultural icon and beloved by most people in canada yet he he doesn't get on and and and

00:41:05.460 it's full of these c-list celebrities you know the kind of like i don't need to be disrespectful here

00:41:10.580 but like think of like okay thinking like the junos and stuff jan arden and the other cbc darling

00:41:16.500 but even ones way below that people who like no one's heard of unless you go to like the toronto

00:41:22.020 folk festival or something you know it's like people no one's heard of for crappy like cbc

00:41:28.040 shows with actors that one percent of canadians could probably still not name uh these c-list

00:41:34.260 canadian celebrities who never made it internationally they're in there as cultural

00:41:38.580 icons of our cultural sovereignty and they don't put in the one guy everyone can name everyone can

00:41:45.060 look look at his face and say i know who that is and what he's about well yeah and it's i look at

00:41:49.200 kind of like almost the time person of the

00:41:51.140 year or whatever, if you want to put it that way. It doesn't mean

00:41:53.060 you have to like or dislike, but if they were significant

00:41:55.340 and had an impact,

00:41:57.020 it's worthy of a degree of recognition.

00:41:59.340 And when you exclude Cherry, it really

00:42:01.020 shows the bias.

00:42:02.980 It shows that they don't really value diversity.

00:42:05.760 No. No.

00:42:06.680 Well, he's their own kind of not.

00:42:10.400 Okay.

00:42:10.980 Well, I wanted to get into the Alberta Police

00:42:13.120 Force. We're just not going to have time today.

00:42:15.560 It's twice as to say we're going to have one.

00:42:17.780 Little bit by little bit.

00:42:19.200 We're taking the incremental approach and good on it.

00:42:21.440 We're getting it done.

00:42:22.440 As long as we're making progress in the right way

00:42:25.000 and it's aggressive enough, it's good.

00:42:26.840 It's a step in the right direction.

00:42:27.960 So when you get a ticket, you're going to smile.

00:42:31.040 As long as it's going to a proper Alberta cop, not a Fed.

00:42:36.400 Okay.

00:42:37.760 Also, I wouldn't have time.

00:42:40.380 This is also a step in removing federal control of police

00:42:43.660 to seize our guns.

00:42:45.020 Yes.

00:42:45.800 That needs to be recognized.

00:42:47.120 God bless you

00:42:49.060 everyone behind creating the Alberta

00:42:50.680 Sheriffs here. Prioritize

00:42:53.060 their service. Thank you

00:42:54.860 for your service. Okay,

00:42:56.860 we'll get into that more next week. Party

00:42:58.780 Shots, Nigel. Oh, well, you

00:43:00.880 know, maybe it's not fair to

00:43:02.900 keep picking on the CBC, but

00:43:04.900 let's do it. So, you

00:43:06.940 know, they've got

00:43:07.880 an internal issue going on there

00:43:10.780 and they want to exclude

00:43:12.880 other media from reporting

00:43:15.080 on what they would cheerfully

00:43:16.960 report on if it was the other media and you know they've got some good people but thus much only

00:43:23.040 they they shoot themselves in the foot conceptually at the upper levels all the time

00:43:27.680 you just can't trust them all right bang that's my shot all right well just backs get sort of the

00:43:34.880 old progressive conservatives and their icons thomas fabio lukasic people remember as part of

00:43:40.640 the left flank of the progressive look servatives and admitted lucasher yeah well if you want to

00:43:45.280 pronounce it the Polish, Lukasz.

00:43:47.520 Either way, he's come up.

00:43:49.100 I'm kind of mixed on it. Okay, you pulled the trigger

00:43:51.140 early on the referendum, petitioning,

00:43:53.480 and he's sort of playing the game

00:43:55.420 of the act, trying to turn it into

00:43:57.360 a negative, saying, well, campaign

00:43:59.180 is a, would you

00:44:01.340 agree to stay within Canada?

00:44:03.300 And it looks like it might have thrown sand in the gears

00:44:05.400 of the Alberta Prosperities

00:44:06.560 efforts. Maybe. It's kind of bizarre.

00:44:09.420 It shows that there's more to be

00:44:11.340 ironed out on what this process is going to do.

00:44:13.560 but as I said I don't know how well that's going to work

00:44:16.460 for him at the worst that's going to happen

00:44:18.020 it's going to be held and it just means that

00:44:20.200 the independent side will have to take the no

00:44:22.320 on their campaign rather than yes

00:44:23.900 but either way there's going to be a referendum

00:44:26.100 on if he gets the 300,000

00:44:28.520 which is very very unlikely

00:44:30.640 I actually you know

00:44:32.280 a lot of the legacy media are crowing about how much they love this

00:44:34.780 we get to crow

00:44:36.560 when the federalist side in Alberta

00:44:38.460 can't get enough people to sign

00:44:40.240 a petition saying we should stay in Canada

00:44:42.140 The people who think it's easy are people who have never done a real petition before.

00:44:48.000 Yeah.

00:44:48.400 I tell you what.

00:44:48.980 This is not an online click, you know.

00:44:51.660 Getting 100 real signatures on a petition, an official one physically, is a 10-hour day of work.

00:45:01.160 So $300,000, good luck, Fabio.

00:45:05.000 Yeah.

00:45:05.800 So we're going to come back to this when it's done because we're going to be able to say

00:45:10.220 Thomas Lukasik and the NDP

00:45:12.480 all these guys working together

00:45:13.860 could not get 300,000 people

00:45:16.600 in a province of 4 million

00:45:19.000 to sign a petition to stay in Canada

00:45:20.800 we get to say that now

00:45:22.300 exactly

00:45:22.860 it's delayed gratification but I think

00:45:26.540 maybe I'll have to eat my words

00:45:28.520 but I don't think

00:45:29.440 we'll have our I told you so is more than likely

00:45:31.460 speaking of I told you so

00:45:33.940 Leah Thomas has had his

00:45:36.900 medals

00:45:37.800 stripped for winning

00:45:40.300 in women's swimming in the United

00:45:42.340 States.

00:45:45.040 This is just

00:45:46.100 I don't know. What's his proper name?

00:45:48.380 I don't know. I'm just Thomas.

00:45:50.400 Sure.

00:45:52.560 So, I mean, this has been a

00:45:54.040 big controversy.

00:45:55.880 He has taken medals away

00:45:57.740 from women who have rightfully

00:46:00.000 won in women's sporting

00:46:01.980 competitions.

00:46:03.460 And this is not a dainty little

00:46:05.840 trans person this is a man yeah this is and he's still got all the bits and pieces he didn't have

00:46:12.200 any surgical alteration you know uh it could have made it more aerodynamic for swimming so

00:46:16.360 he was thinking it was a bit of drag i don't know yeah yeah yeah i don't know about you derrick but

00:46:21.520 when i was at school if you tried to win a race against the girls they'd laugh you tricked you

00:46:25.700 was they left the school branch yeah yeah i'm surprised he didn't remove the keel from the

00:46:30.220 boat for the roof. 0.99

00:46:32.960 Yeah, anyways, that's

00:46:34.200 good news for women, 1.00

00:46:36.320 for sportsmanship, no pun intended,

00:46:38.660 and for science and sanity.

00:46:40.920 The world

00:46:41.700 returning to a little more

00:46:43.840 balance. The force.

00:46:47.240 Balance returning to the

00:46:48.280 force. Sometimes it can happen.

00:46:50.860 Nigel, Corey, thank you very much.

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Western Standard - July 03, 2025

Carney folds to Trump

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