Western Standard - Carney is in. Now what？

00:00:00.000 Good day.

00:00:28.660 welcome to the cory morgan show second take this is a special we'll be running every friday for

00:00:34.700 the next few months just to make sure there's so much going on we've got an election going on of

00:00:39.100 course and that's where most of the focus is going to be in covering this show and just kind of

00:00:42.900 wrapping up your week on what's happened week by week next uh friday this won't be recorded anymore

00:00:50.060 this is recorded but recently recorded if you're viewing it right now we're going to be going back

00:00:54.000 to live on fridays and i much prefer that so make sure to tune in on those fridays get the comments

00:00:58.160 and get the discussion going and it's a more extended show covering a lot more of the issues

00:01:02.660 so today in a little bit i'm going to talk to our own bc bureau chief jared yeager and he's going to

00:01:08.860 speak on yeah the bc perspective in this federal election where the issue is going to be there

00:01:12.460 there's a lot of swing seats in bc it's an important province in these things when they

00:01:16.000 get competitive and a couple of guests are going to come in greg mather and tessa partridge mather

00:01:21.320 he's and he shouldn't be tough names for me but i still have issues with them and they're going to

00:01:25.160 talk about precious metals i mean it's important especially when we get the markets and currency

00:01:28.720 doing what they are these days they're good alberta bunch talking about how you can buy some

00:01:33.540 gold and silver and keep things a little more stable for you and from the mcdonald laurier

00:01:37.680 institute patrice du till now i'm probably screwing that up it's a french name but he'll get over it

00:01:42.920 and he wrote a great book on sir j john a mcdonald recently because again we're getting this new

00:01:48.860 patriotism well let's start looking at our historical figures then from a proper lens if

00:01:53.760 you really want to show your love for Canada or not you should just know I mean it's just been

00:01:58.900 bad that we've been demonizing our our past country's founders all right to kick things

00:02:02.840 off though I'm gonna have Dave Naylor our news editor in to just kind of give us an update what's

00:02:07.300 been going on uh you know not too much breaking in the news these days no all is quiet all is

00:02:11.300 quiet uh happy days are here again we have a new prime minister oh yes that's right ding dong the

00:02:16.520 which is dead. Goodbye, Justin Trudeau. Mark Carney sworn in earlier this morning in Ottawa.

00:02:23.840 Done deal. Goodbye, Trudeau. You going to miss him? No, not even a little bit. Boy, you know,

00:02:30.320 I mean, it's funny and it took a long time, but I kind of built a bit of at least a respect for

00:02:36.080 Kretchen in his term, even though I despised him as an Albertan and he was a liberal prime minister

00:02:40.160 in that time. But as things got worse, particularly when you had Justin Trudeau, you know, I could

00:02:45.320 look back on on kretchen and respect the man at least the truth i cannot see my view changing on

00:02:51.000 justin to ever look back on him and say oh boy he did this right or wrong or no he's i wonder how

00:02:56.000 history is going to look at him i mean he's got no legacy does he no the carbon tax his own party's

00:03:01.840 chucking to the side uh the electric vehicle thing is falling apart uh what's he got nice hair i guess

00:03:09.200 yeah he's got that you know i'm sure he can go on the speaking circuit uh and there'll be some

00:03:13.860 organizations that'll pay him 50 grand.

00:03:16.320 You're a former prime minister, no matter who you are, you'll get a job somewhere.

00:03:19.840 And he's, you know, he's a trust fund millionaire, right?

00:03:21.880 I mean, he's been rich since the day he was born.

00:03:24.520 Oh, he'll still have servants to poor his mourning Syria for the Saturday. 0.95

00:03:27.560 You know, but speaking of all the trappings of office, it's not taking prime minister

00:03:33.380 Carney long.

00:03:34.180 He's taken the plane out for a spin already, less than a week in power.

00:03:38.420 And he's taken a jaunt over to London and to Paris.

00:03:43.120 I guess he's got, as somebody said on Twitter,

00:03:45.140 change his residency plans, you know, from London,

00:03:48.760 where he was the governor of the Bank of England.

00:03:51.460 So it's going to be interesting.

00:03:53.900 And, you know, some other great news.

00:03:56.000 We don't have to deal with Gilbo and environment anymore. 1.00

00:04:00.220 So, you know, that cheering you heard yesterday

00:04:03.800 when news leaked out coming from the Alberta legislature,

00:04:06.840 because, you know, let's face it, he's been an arch enemy of Alberta. 0.69

00:04:09.660 He's done everything he can to try and ruin the, uh, the oil and gas industry, uh, being a pain in the ass to, uh, uh, Premier Smith, uh, Rebecca Schultz, uh, Brian Jean, you know, they, uh, they always, they were always very polite about it, but they despised him. 0.92

00:04:26.400 Come on. 0.95

00:04:27.000 I mean, he, he, it was the eco extreme.

00:04:30.060 There was no reasoning with him.

00:04:31.380 I mean, I'm sure a lot of, uh, you know, Eastern Canadian mining and fishing.

00:04:35.000 I mean, he's gotten his fingers into everything and made industry difficult.

00:04:37.560 Yeah. And this is a guy who, don't forget, climbed onto the roof of Premier Klein's house, terrifying his poor wife inside, scaled the CN Tower. I mean, he's just a radical, radical Greenpeace activist. And, you know, whichever portfolio he gets next, I'm sure he'll screw that up too.

00:04:56.540 Well, that's the unfortunate thing. I mean, you're just shuffling things. He's not out. But at least he's out of that particular file for now.

00:05:02.200 Hopefully he can't do much more damage.

00:05:05.680 Tariff was the other word of the week.

00:05:08.520 You know, say that word, still sick of it.

00:05:10.620 I was sick of it yesterday.

00:05:11.700 I'm sick of it again.

00:05:13.580 But, you know, Canada started out strong.

00:05:15.980 There was Premier Ford saying we were going to slap 25% electrical tariffs

00:05:21.520 on electricity that we send to the United States.

00:05:25.400 And, you know, that caused some great angst down in Washington.

00:05:28.960 And President Trump tweeted, this is unacceptable, and he would, if it's not cancelled immediately, he would launch holy hell upon Ontario.

00:05:39.880 And I think he was something like, he will do economic damage that the history books will be talking about in a thousand years.

00:05:46.440 So, Premier Ford folded like a cheap rug and, you know, about an hour later said, okay, yep, no, we're not putting the 25% tariffs on, which drew laughs from Lutnik, the Commerce Secretary in the States, basically mocking him, saying, oh, this strong man from Ontario, all it took was a tweet and he's, you know, fooled him.

00:06:13.520 So tariffs, uh, it's, you know, it's going to go on new ones coming in April 2nd.

00:06:20.720 Uh, so it's sadly, we're going to be hearing that word a lot.

00:06:24.380 Yeah.

00:06:24.920 It's getting tired of it, but it isn't going away.

00:06:27.180 Now we're seeing it spreading.

00:06:28.100 I mean, uh, Trump, you know, he was musing talking about how he loves tariffs.

00:06:31.460 He loves tariffs.

00:06:32.220 Obviously he hates economics.

00:06:33.500 Okay.

00:06:33.740 Fair enough.

00:06:34.280 But, uh, he's going after what French wines now.

00:06:37.520 George, 200% can you imagine that what that's going to do to a cost, uh, you

00:06:42.620 know, a cost of a bottle of French wine, it's going to be crazy.

00:06:45.820 Well, I mean, it's going to really shore up the American champagne industry though, right?

00:06:49.040 I was listening to the list of stuff that Canada's put tariffs on coming in into the

00:06:56.060 country and things that are going to go up.

00:06:58.800 And one of the examples was like a camping trip, sleeping bags up 25%, you know, all

00:07:04.580 this, you know, little axes up 25% to cut your firewood, golf clubs, 25%.

00:07:10.960 So, you know, it's the stuff that Canada is tariffing is what

00:07:15.520 you would call, I guess, the nice to haves.

00:07:18.100 Annoyances.

00:07:18.860 Yeah.

00:07:19.180 You don't need a new set of golf clubs.

00:07:21.040 I mean, it might help my game, but I could, you know, I don't need one.

00:07:25.360 I don't need a new sleeping bag.

00:07:26.920 Yeah.

00:07:27.640 Uh, you know, but if, you know, if I was in need of those things, then it

00:07:32.140 would cost me a hell of a lot more money.

00:07:34.340 So, oh, no getting around it.

00:07:36.280 I mean, a trade war, everybody loses.

00:07:37.660 It's just we're paying while there's a dick measuring contest, basically, between multiple leaders on our wallets.

00:07:44.740 Yeah.

00:07:45.200 And, you know, the good thing is we now have an elected prime minister to represent his own place, you know, elected by a small member of the liberal party.

00:07:56.140 And, you know, him going to Europe is certainly going to push back thoughts of an election, too.

00:08:03.100 It's not going to come as quick as we'd hoped or wanted.

00:08:06.060 No, and that's another painful part of it.

00:08:07.700 I mean, if we're ever going to get resolution, I mean, eventually something happens with this tariff thing and everything else.

00:08:11.500 I mean, some sort of new trade deal must be established, signed off on, negotiated and stamped.

00:08:16.940 I mean, we know Trump might tear it up any given time.

00:08:19.160 He seems to be prone to that, but for the, that's the intent.

00:08:21.980 But you can't get that until you have a prime minister with a mandate.

00:08:25.220 Like, currently he's just as lame as Justin right now.

00:08:27.920 Yeah, exactly.

00:08:28.600 So, I still think the election is coming soon, but, you know, it may not be until late, the end of next week, as opposed to today.

00:08:39.800 All right.

00:08:40.420 Well, we'll be watching and seeing.

00:08:41.820 I know as soon as the rip drops, we'll be letting the world know and getting into campaign coverage mode.

00:08:46.460 Yeah, pedal to the metal.

00:08:47.800 All right.

00:08:48.280 Well, thanks, Dave.

00:08:48.980 I'll let you back to your newsroom, and, well, I'll carry on.

00:08:53.440 You carry on.

00:08:54.180 Right.

00:08:54.460 Thanks, Dave.

00:08:55.160 You bet.

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00:10:00.760 us just keep getting those reporters out there and working for you. So yes, you know, the election

00:10:06.000 countdown, and that's what we're really going to focus on with this show. So interesting stuff

00:10:10.020 we've been talking about, you know, when's Carney going to call it? Some people thought maybe right

00:10:13.340 away. Some thought longer. We'll see. I kind of almost thought it might happen when after the

00:10:19.720 throne speech is read, or at least, you know, read it like a campaign thing and then just fall

00:10:24.160 on that at the time. Who knows? But people thinking he's going to go right away now when

00:10:28.640 he's bouncing over to Europe for a couple of days. Obviously he's not going to call it on Monday or

00:10:35.340 Tuesday because he's going to be over in Europe. Isn't that weird? Like what on earth? You've just

00:10:40.540 won the leadership of the party. You've just been coronated the prime minister, even though, you

00:10:44.280 know nobody's really had a chance to vote for you yet and you leave the country you know aren't

00:10:49.940 there a few things to be done around here or even in his own interest shouldn't he be getting his

00:10:55.760 cabinet together shouldn't he be organizing things like we have to remember during the election

00:11:00.440 campaign whenever it happens the government's still there some things are still going to happen

00:11:05.780 some things are still going to have to move through you need a cabinet for that and he hasn't

00:11:10.760 formally put that together yet. It's a caretaker government. You know, they just respond to

00:11:14.760 things. When the hell is he going to do that? As weak as that cabinet and caretaker government

00:11:20.760 may be, it's all we got, and it's what we have to have at that point. Now, truth. Let's get on to

00:11:30.020 truth. It always, you know, they talk about the first casualty war is also the first casualty

00:11:34.740 of election campaigns, and Carney is kicking things off being no different. So, you know,

00:11:39.700 the big anchor around the Liberals' neck for a long time was the carbon tax. That was Justin

00:11:44.400 Trudeau's legacy policy. That was his big thing. Justin was going to save the world

00:11:49.480 by imposing a carbon tax and, you know, make the temperatures nicer, right? Carbon tax make

00:11:56.900 weather gooder. So yeah, the interesting thing with Mark Carney, as I said, with the truth,

00:12:01.880 so he's coming out, you know, as I said, the carbon tax is Justin's big policy, his hallmark

00:12:07.180 policy, and now it's being thrown to the roadside. People realize, the liberals even realized, wow,

00:12:12.740 we are not going to win the election by pushing this consumer carbon tax. But what Carney is

00:12:18.280 saying, he's not getting rid of the consumer carbon tax. Well, he's getting rid of the consumer end of

00:12:24.000 it, you know, where you see it directly. But he says he's going to dump it on the big polluters.

00:12:28.540 He's going to dump it on the big companies. Well, and he said, though, he said that the tax won't

00:12:33.740 be passed on to consumers when he does that. Of course it will. I mean, this was the guy who,

00:12:40.300 you know, this is different than Trudeau. Trudeau wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. He didn't

00:12:44.580 think on his feet he had to read lines. Carney knows a degree of economics, and that doesn't

00:12:48.560 mean he's the right economics or not. You know, Keynes was a smart man, but his economics were

00:12:53.760 garbage. Now, Carney, though, saying this, he knows bloody well, of course the cost of the tax 0.97

00:12:59.580 is going to be passed down to consumers. It has to. Do you think the companies, when they suddenly

00:13:05.080 get a tax hike on them, will just keep their products at the same price? No, they'll raise

00:13:11.460 the price and then the consumers will still pay it. Plus it won't do a darn thing for the

00:13:19.000 environment. That's the other big lie with the carbon taxes. It's going to save the world. It's

00:13:23.640 going to change the environment. It's going to change the weather. Not. It doesn't change your

00:13:29.000 behavior. You still have to buy the same items. You still have to heat your house. You still have

00:13:34.380 to fill your car up. You still use metals. You still use plastics. There's no getting away from

00:13:38.860 them. I mean, there's good environmentalism. There certainly is. You know, when you want to

00:13:42.420 reduce your usage of some products. I mean, reducing litter, particulate pollution, you know,

00:13:48.100 things being burned without filters. Absolutely. But this carbon tax, garbage. It's enough. BC's

00:13:54.180 had a carbon tax for decades. Has it gotten any cooler there yet? But the bottom line is though

00:14:00.400 Carney is already lying. That's what concerns me, right? When he says that won't be passed on to

00:14:05.660 consumers. If you really are in love with your policy, if you really think that this carbon tax

00:14:12.260 is going to help, well, you should be able to make the case honestly. You should be able to say, yes,

00:14:17.100 Canadians will have to pay, but that's the price you pay to save the world, isn't it?

00:14:20.480 we've got to be the boy scouts we've got to take it on the chin even if every other country's

00:14:25.760 burning coal and god knows what else out there because we're going to save the world that's a

00:14:30.740 that's yeah i know it's a hard case to make so i guess i could see why carney's moving into lying

00:14:35.900 mode but it seems to be effective you know we're looking at the numbers we're looking at the polls

00:14:42.720 and there's no getting around it anymore it's not just a short-term bump uh going on in the

00:14:50.040 polls right now. Multiple, multiple pollsters are showing, and I'm going to break through some of

00:14:54.640 those in a little while, that the Liberals have been gaining. And part of it isn't just the loss

00:14:58.300 of Trudeau. It's getting rid of that carbon tax. So maybe people should be better informed on

00:15:02.420 just what that means if we get rid of it. All right, well, let's move to the west side. I'm

00:15:06.520 going to be covering areas, zones, and parts of the country as this election unfolds. Well,

00:15:11.460 once it's called. Anyway, so we're going to start over on the west side. We're going to talk to

00:15:14.940 Jared Yager, our BC Bureau Chief out there, and just see what's bubbling out in British Columbia

00:15:20.780 as we move towards Election Day. So let's get him on board and see what's going on. Hey,

00:15:27.380 Jared, how's it going? All right, good. How are you? Very good. You know, it's just exhausting

00:15:33.600 trying to keep up with things right these days. You know, they're unfolding so much. I mean,

00:15:36.860 we spoke to you the other day on your provincial politics and what's going on there. But federally,

00:15:44.940 British Columbia, I mean, we're all going into a federal election at some point or another.

00:15:49.200 BC is a real interesting, complicated swing province. Maybe kind of break down how BC

00:15:56.800 sits on the federal scene right now. Okay, so let's take it back to the 2021 election. And in

00:16:02.900 the polls, the Conservatives came in with 33% of the vote, Liberals 27%, and the NDP 29. And that's

00:16:11.120 a pretty good breakdown of how things usually are in the province.

00:16:15.380 You know, you've got the greater Vancouver area and the island, which tends

00:16:19.260 to skew left. And then more inland and then further

00:16:23.120 north tends to skew right. And what we've seen now is, at least

00:16:27.120 the most recent polls, are showing the NDP have lost

00:16:31.380 quite a bit of support. They're down to just 19%.

00:16:34.640 The Liberals, again, down to now 30%.

00:16:38.900 And the Conservatives have actually jumped from that 33% all the way up to 43%.

00:16:44.820 And so I reckon in the federal election, we may see a similar shift to the right that we saw last year in the provincial election.

00:16:56.080 Yeah, and like BC, the lower mainland, I mean, it's predominantly where you're going to see more progressive voters and seats.

00:17:02.600 but at the same time there's also some very uh conservative seats in there or at least the way

00:17:07.760 the the votes land and so on you get to see quite a mixture of seats down there it's not all

00:17:12.200 uniformly liberal or uniformly NDP there's a bit of everything so uh you know I know Vancouver

00:17:17.500 Island or Salt Spring Island isn't going to go conservative anytime soon but uh some of the

00:17:23.560 Vancouver ridings might have a change in colors I would imagine no for sure for sure but actually

00:17:29.060 speaking of vancouver island uh one of the writings to watch is uh north island powell river so the

00:17:35.300 ndp incumbent um she's not running again this this time around uh and the conservatives they

00:17:40.820 have uh erin gunn who's familiar to many in in conservative circles and so so i i appear in that

00:17:49.780 um because in the in the provincial election it went conservative so it'll be interesting to see

00:17:57.620 whether they follow that trend on the federal level as well yeah so it's interesting i mean

00:18:03.120 aaron gunn he's been on this show before i've been on his show before actually when he had one

00:18:07.800 uh he's a very uh outspoken classic conservative sort of guy you know small c and uh so the the

00:18:16.700 conservatives at least i mean it's a matter of the nominations and such but they didn't take

00:18:19.740 the tact then of trying to say put a red torian up on the north end of vancouver island and try

00:18:24.880 to kind of nudge towards the middle.

00:18:26.740 They put an unapologetic conservative up there,

00:18:29.420 I would imagine, hoping to just, you know,

00:18:31.260 corner that vote and take the seat potentially.

00:18:35.100 Yeah, and I've had the privilege of covering

00:18:37.200 some of his rallies up there.

00:18:39.380 And yeah, he's got the support of the mayor

00:18:41.240 and quite a few of the community members.

00:18:44.660 There's enthusiasm for change.

00:18:47.260 Yeah, Northern Vancouver Island,

00:18:49.600 for people unfamiliar with it,

00:18:51.080 I mean, it's much more rural.

00:18:52.800 I mean, there's some larger centers up there kind of,

00:18:54.680 but it's not the same as Victoria where it's a larger city and more established to a large

00:18:59.220 seniors population and such. Yeah, I don't think we'll ever see the South Island or any of the

00:19:05.140 Gulf Islands turn blue, but up in the north, there's definitely the potential there. Great.

00:19:10.700 Well, that'll be something to watch. What are the issues do you think? And again, looking into

00:19:15.440 Vancouver, like I talked a bit about that before, you know, I date myself, but in the 90s, I always

00:19:19.560 thought it was cool because you could have an NDP member right next to a Reform Party member who

00:19:23.540 were very conservative back then, right next to a liberal member and just everything in between.

00:19:28.440 What issues are driving things in Vancouver, though? What's on the minds out there right now?

00:19:32.980 So obviously, the top two would be the carbon tax and the failed drug policy. And, you know,

00:19:40.580 every time Pierre Poliev comes to town, those are the two things that he hammers on. And yeah,

00:19:47.420 the BCNDP and Premier David Eby, he has made it clear that as soon as the federal government

00:19:52.960 acts as the requirement that bc has a consumer carbon tax he will do the same and so that's

00:19:59.780 that's probably issue issue number one but cleaning up our streets and making sure that

00:20:04.660 those who have substance abuse problems get the help that they need that's something that

00:20:10.740 across the political spectrum people here in bc want to see the federal government take more

00:20:16.780 initiative on and and actually follow through with their promises yeah and that's interesting

00:20:22.500 They basically took the bullets out of Polyev's gun on the carbon tax.

00:20:26.080 It looks like no matter who gets elected, the consumer portion of the carbon tax is going to be taken away.

00:20:30.500 So he's got to pivot a little. It's been very effective for him down there.

00:20:33.240 But the public safety, the fentanyl, the addiction issue, it's bad everywhere, but it's very acute in Vancouver.

00:20:39.160 It always has been.

00:20:41.600 It's one of the things, no matter where you are in the political spectrum,

00:20:43.980 if you're worried for your safety or you're worried about the safety of your loved ones,

00:20:47.440 if you have an addicted family member, it doesn't matter what your political stripe is.

00:20:51.600 you want a solution to that. And the Liberals kind of really dropped that ball when they went

00:20:54.980 into and out of the legalization of hard drugs idea. I mean, maybe well-meaning, but it backfired

00:21:00.600 terribly. So I could guess that Polyev is going to pivot maybe and go a little harder on the

00:21:06.020 law and order and maybe treatment options or things like that for the addiction issue. And

00:21:11.820 just pointing out the failures of the enablement approach. I would imagine so. Yeah. And again,

00:21:18.040 And during the provincial election last fall, I spoke to a lot of first-time conservative voters who said, like, you know, we don't necessarily agree with the party on this or this.

00:21:29.060 But when it comes to public safety, you know, we just, we want something new.

00:21:33.480 We want, you know, someone else to come in and say, hey, maybe we can try this.

00:21:39.060 Yeah, I mean, there's no simple solutions.

00:21:41.180 No province or state or country has managed to solve this issue.

00:21:46.300 this issue. I mean, some have done better than others, but it's just not going away.

00:21:50.500 As you said, just trying to think something new, look at other models, try it. We know what's not

00:21:53.900 working. So, uh, move on to the other things. So getting into interior British Columbia,

00:21:58.680 that's more resource-based, uh, more rural, and it tends to be more solidly conservative,

00:22:03.240 but again, right, Kelowna, Kamloops, uh, provincially, they have some swing in there.

00:22:07.240 Are they still pretty solidly conservative federally there though? Uh, I would, I would

00:22:11.560 imagine so yeah yeah and you saw like in in Kelowna um yeah that whole that whole region

00:22:18.480 kind of skewed conservative in the in the provincial election so I reckon that'll transfer

00:22:25.260 over to the federal as well. So a story you just wrote the other day which was kind of interesting

00:22:30.580 uh University of BC's Kelowna campus uh they tried to form a conservative club

00:22:36.820 and they weren't allowed to.

00:22:39.040 What happened there?

00:22:40.960 So from what I gathered,

00:22:42.180 it was a purely political decision.

00:22:45.260 They mentioned the student union

00:22:47.080 in their post

00:22:48.260 or in their response to their request

00:22:50.760 that it's okay to have political groups,

00:22:55.860 but the values and the ideas

00:22:59.280 that they alleged were put forth

00:23:01.760 by the Conservative Party,

00:23:02.820 especially those that they said

00:23:04.360 targeted black and uh lgbtq students those were not okay and therefore you can't have a club that

00:23:14.280 champions those values they didn't exactly say which policies or ideas they were talking about

00:23:21.360 just kind of a blank statement you know so what is it they're going to bring back lynchings or

00:23:26.960 slavery again or uh you know uh different water fountains for different people i mean

00:23:31.100 it gets tiresome, you know, with that, when, when we're talking about a mainstream party that

00:23:37.020 really, you know, is, is, you know, as much as half of Canadians may support and these groups 0.98

00:23:42.340 go and accuse them of that kind of garbage. I mean, you can disagree, but that's, it's just 0.90

00:23:46.040 getting old. No, exactly. And it doesn't make any sense because, uh, down at the main campus here

00:23:52.540 in Vancouver, UBC, there's a conservative club. So there's a, there's a precedent, like one already

00:23:58.600 exists. There's no reason why they can't have it at the UBCO campus. No, I mean, all you do is just

00:24:03.840 don't do it. It's an unfortunate thing. You know, kind of looking at things all around, though,

00:24:10.280 I mean, in past elections, we saw a lot more of it. I think we're not seeing it as much now,

00:24:13.840 though. The whole woke issue, I don't think that's front of mind for a lot of voters. I mean,

00:24:20.220 LGBTQ issues, they're always there, and First Nation settlements and race issues. Of course,

00:24:27.240 the liberals are going to try a bit. They're going to try and pull up abortion, even though

00:24:30.340 nobody's talking about changing anything with it and all that. But I'm not seeing much appetite

00:24:33.940 from the public either. I mean, they're worried more about their wallets and their safety right

00:24:36.880 now, I think. No, exactly. And most of those issues, abortion and stuff like that, they're

00:24:41.980 pretty settled in Canada. Whereas in the States, there's always debate between the two sides

00:24:48.400 that could translate to legislation. But here it's pretty much the way things are. And so,

00:24:55.020 yeah, I mean, with all the threats coming from Trump and elsewhere, and just the damage that's

00:25:00.700 been done domestically over the past few years, yeah, people have other things that they're

00:25:07.160 worried about that impact them more on a day-to-day basis. Well, I would think, I mean, it's just my

00:25:12.340 view on it, but people might be a little exhausted a bit with the social issues and the world kind

00:25:16.740 of overplaying their hand. I mean, you know, I grew up or, you know, was in my early adulthood

00:25:23.500 through the big issue was same-sex marriage, and there was a lot of battles, and people seem to

00:25:28.460 forget too, you know, it's funny, we were watching Kretchen giving a speech and everybody applauding

00:25:31.680 him, but he voted against that every single time as a liberal, but we've moved past it, and it's

00:25:37.060 unthinkable that anybody's going to reverse that, it's, you know, it's fantastic, we've broadened it

00:25:41.060 and let people marry, and great, let's carry on with it, but they keep moving the goalposts down 0.96

00:25:46.260 the field, and now we're getting into this bizarre trans stuff, and into the, you know, minors and so 1.00

00:25:51.340 on and, and men competing in women's sports.

00:25:54.100 And I think they finally just kind of pushed it too far in the public.

00:25:58.220 I, you know, they haven't pushed back, but they just closed them out.

00:26:01.360 No, for sure.

00:26:02.020 And, you know, there's a difference between, you know, advocating for,

00:26:06.160 for similar rights versus, you know, maybe what you could call special privilege.

00:26:12.940 And I think that's where a lot of people draw the line, but it's, it's a shame

00:26:15.860 that those two have been conflated because it kind of, yeah, discredits one

00:26:20.920 when you know they're really not the same. It gets frustrating I mean when we see the protests

00:26:25.400 and people shouting trans lives matter okay but who's putting them at risk I mean what rights

00:26:29.640 are not being conferred upon and I'm certain they deal with some prejudice and things people

00:26:33.860 are trans individuals but what legislatively are they missing anymore it's it's uh gets old. All 1.00

00:26:40.860 right well before I let you go and get back to work I know you got a lot to cover uh what else

00:26:44.320 you got on the burner out there in BC and what do you see as the issues coming up in the coming days

00:26:47.900 here? So right now, the big story here in BC is a trio of now former BC conservative MLAs are kind

00:26:56.060 of going off, doing their own thing. They're sitting as independents right now, but they're

00:27:00.380 talking about forming a new party. They're known as the True Blue Trio. And they've accused the

00:27:06.100 BC conservatives of not upholding conservative values, namely free speech, after one MLA was

00:27:12.500 kicked out of the party for things that she said about residential schools. So I'm kind of covering

00:27:18.740 the fallout from that and seeing where that goes. Well, there's nothing conservatives like more than

00:27:24.220 biting each other's heels when they're in a political party. So hopefully they get some

00:27:29.480 resolution out there and things can come together. I guess when you've got a few years to play with

00:27:33.820 before the next provincial election, you can start to rearrange things, but still it could

00:27:37.880 also turn destructive. I look forward to your ongoing coverage of it, Jared, and I appreciate

00:27:41.460 you checking in with us today. Yeah, thank you. Great, thanks. So that is, yes, Jerry Yager,

00:27:46.800 and as you can see, he's covering all things BC, provincial, federal. Again, he shot some

00:27:51.900 fantastic video. He gets out there in person, some of the stuff that went viral with those crazed,

00:27:56.400 geez, I didn't even ask so much about it, but that's okay. It seems to be not as big of the

00:28:00.060 news, the Hamas protests, you know, the pro-Hamas protests. Let's call it what it is. It's not pro-Palestine 0.55

00:28:04.620 anymore. I think maybe it started that way, but that's, you know, he got those videos of them

00:28:08.920 burning flags and chanting death to Canada, death to Israel. Again, the protests haven't gone away,

00:28:15.800 but the public is tired of them. And it's just a smaller, more exhausting group of anti-Semitic

00:28:20.760 jerks who are tying up the streets and praying on street corners. But I don't think that's going 0.99

00:28:26.660 to become much of a federal election issue. So let's go through some of the polls and I'm going

00:28:30.560 to talk about some of the things. One, I guess, is timing. And people in Canada, when it comes to

00:28:37.300 whether they want an election or what they prefer for timing for an election it's a tougher question

00:28:41.100 but you know what most of the time if Canadians are polled do you want an election right now

00:28:45.060 most often they say no most common people non-political weenies like me don't like elections

00:28:51.480 they don't enjoy elections it's something that has to be done but they don't want to have them

00:28:55.660 any more often than usual this is a little different though this is a now we're getting

00:29:00.420 into it's uh some people who want it this winter so right away let's get on it for for March 14

00:29:05.400 percent said, yes, let's do it right now. I'm kind of surprised it was even that low, actually.

00:29:09.460 Others saying spring or May, another 33%. Some talking about this summer, June, July, or August,

00:29:15.720 another 10%. So you're looking at 43, close to 60% of people saying, let's get it done with

00:29:24.460 before fall. Let's do it earlier than what the legislated date, which means nothing. It's just

00:29:29.800 legislation, but still the deed for this fall. There were 11% who didn't answer, so okay. It's

00:29:36.160 only 31% want to hang on till this fall. As we were talking about, there's been a lot of speculation.

00:29:44.560 You know, Jagmeet Singh would sure like to drag it out. His party support collapsed and he's broke.

00:29:48.740 He would cut a deal with Kearney to drag it out if he could, but it doesn't look likely that

00:29:54.180 Kearney wants to do that. They're doing all right in the polls. I think they're going to strike while

00:29:57.900 the iron's hot and go for it all the same the poles are all over the map and they remain so but 1.00

00:30:02.960 there's a general trend that's consistent and among multiple pollsters now we got ecos which

00:30:10.100 is frankie graves frankie's crazy he's putting out stuff that's just absolutely bizarre so you

00:30:15.940 can take his poles and you can pretty much throw them in the garbage but other ones uh leger for 0.97

00:30:21.480 example, we'll bring up there, they've got it going basically saying it's neck and neck, 37%

00:30:28.280 to 37% right now. They are a reputable pollster. Like there is movement for whatever reason.

00:30:35.640 Canadians are gravitating back to the liberals right now. I mean, there's got to be a number

00:30:39.220 of reasons. One of the big ones, of course, was Trudeau. They obviously despised him. He's gone.

00:30:42.880 Now they're more likely to embrace the liberals again. I find it galling. I hope it's weak,

00:30:48.020 But that's where they're sitting with Leger.

00:30:50.480 And, you know, if it was just one outlier, so be it.

00:30:54.600 But let's look at the Leger trend over time.

00:30:56.840 And they've been showing it.

00:30:57.820 We're seeing this same sort of graph from every pollster.

00:31:01.800 They're all showing the same thing.

00:31:03.880 You know, the liberals are in the toilet. 0.98

00:31:05.180 The liberals are in the toilet.

00:31:06.420 And then they suddenly started spiking with Trudeau's resignation.

00:31:09.780 And there was a bit of a bump down.

00:31:11.940 But now that the leadership's been resolved, bang, they are neck and neck.

00:31:16.040 The conservatives dropped.

00:31:17.540 The big thing to note though is on the bottom of that screen. The NDP has collapsed. They have

00:31:24.820 utterly collapsed. And those votes are going to the Liberals. I mean the Conservatives are dropping

00:31:29.960 a little but not as much to warrant where the Liberals went. Jagmeet Singh has destroyed the

00:31:35.560 Liberal Party. And part of it too is because Trudeau pulled the Liberals pretty bloody far left.

00:31:41.040 So he's been eating the NDP lunch for quite a while. Also Jagmeet Singh is weak. He's a terribly

00:31:46.200 weak leader. He was constantly bending over for Trudeau. Every time a policy stance came along,

00:31:52.060 he'd bark and yip and go on. Well, will you bring the government down? Well, no. Well,

00:31:55.820 then quit being a, you know, just shut up, Jack. You're all talking, no action. And it's caught up 1.00

00:32:01.320 with them. It's totally caught up with them. The other part, too, is a bit of strategic voting.

00:32:06.760 Left-wing voters, they might prefer the NDP over the liberals, but they realize their vote won't

00:32:11.840 keep the conservatives from coming in if they throw it to the NDP. So they're putting it to

00:32:15.560 the liberals as they see as a lesser evil, which is a gross way to look at it. Down at the bottom,

00:32:23.040 People's Party of Canada, people you see, tiny little line you can see way, way down there.

00:32:26.940 It's not going anywhere. We'll see, you know, we'll see because Bernier has been trying to

00:32:35.560 corner things, at least being on the far right, if you want to put it that way. You know, pro-Trump

00:32:41.840 focusing on immigration, which is surprising.

00:32:44.940 That issue should be a bigger one in mainstream, actually,

00:32:47.080 and things like that.

00:32:47.880 But it doesn't seem to be grabbing any traction.

00:32:51.200 They're trying to paint the Conservatives

00:32:52.700 as being the same as the Liberals.

00:32:54.260 They're looking pretty similar to it.

00:32:56.020 One of the things Bernier is saying in the trade war,

00:32:58.120 he's saying no counter tariffs.

00:32:59.840 Fair enough.

00:33:00.480 That's a staking some ground that's unique.

00:33:02.940 And there's a financial case to be made for that.

00:33:04.860 It's a fair one to be made.

00:33:06.360 Both the Conservatives and the Liberals

00:33:07.680 support counter tariffs, which is a bad economic policy.

00:33:11.840 So, but, but is it translating to votes for Bernier's party?

00:33:15.520 Not so far as we can see at all yet.

00:33:19.040 So this election is far from in the bag.

00:33:21.600 Definitely.

00:33:23.120 You can see about the movement too.

00:33:24.760 I mean, the public is sporadic.

00:33:27.320 They're volatile right now.

00:33:28.820 They're prone to quick movement.

00:33:29.940 So that's where a campaign can change things pretty quickly.

00:33:34.340 Nano's polling.

00:33:35.160 I'll pull that one up too, because they've got a similar graph.

00:33:37.600 and you look at the trends over the past few months with them.

00:33:42.360 And again, it's just the same as what you can see with Leger.

00:33:45.960 So, you know, we've got multiple pollsters that see the same trend going on.

00:33:51.120 We have to accept that to a degree, this is what's happening, a crazed spike.

00:33:55.140 For whatever reason, the Conservatives are just not appealing to voters in Canada.

00:34:00.200 We'll see if they can change that over the campaign.

00:34:03.100 Abacus now has been, you know, one of the more conservative leaning pollsters, I guess.

00:34:11.120 The results have shown such.

00:34:12.300 As you can see here, this is interesting actually with the Canadian plans.

00:34:16.700 They normally have been putting out electoral intention votes and they've been shown a conservative

00:34:19.660 lead as opposed to the other ones, but it's been narrowing with them as well.

00:34:22.900 It's David Coletto and they do large rolling polls.

00:34:25.200 They haven't put one out in the last couple of days, but they did put one out with this,

00:34:29.340 which is interesting as well.

00:34:30.440 Now, 62% of Canadians plan to avoid the U.S. for at least the next year amid these political tensions.

00:34:35.500 This is one of the things impacting polls, I think, that people aren't thinking about.

00:34:39.900 There just has been a very frustrated, strong backlash over Trump's assault on Canada in this trade war.

00:34:48.100 And it is, and it's an assault.

00:34:49.320 He came out swinging.

00:34:50.280 He's calling us names.

00:34:51.160 He's mocking us with this 51st state stuff, treating us with massive disrespect.

00:34:56.400 People talk about all sorts of things we should fix in Canada, and that's fine. 0.93

00:34:59.040 Canada should increase military funding. I'll talk about that in a moment. Sure.

00:35:02.500 But it didn't justify this trade war. And people are very upset with that. People, I mean, like

00:35:09.020 myself, part of what I'm bummed about, I love the United States. I love Americans. My mother's

00:35:13.220 American. I spent a lot of time in the USA. We are close allied countries. We're supposed to be

00:35:19.580 friendly. Friends can have little spats. That's fine. But a full force assault, and that's what

00:35:24.020 Trump brought upon things, has really pissed off a lot of people or hurt their feelings. Even if

00:35:28.780 you want to put it that way it made it emotional they're hurt like what are you guys doing so no

00:35:32.600 i'm not going to travel down there is what some people are saying and they're not buying american

00:35:35.960 goods and i know that's not going to swing the trade war i understand that it only impacts some

00:35:40.500 tourism operators and some people who sell us things but it shows where canadians are thinking

00:35:45.180 right now now polyev has been viewed as being close or at least you know supportive of trump

00:35:53.220 there's never been anything showing him being close or supportive of trump even trump himself

00:35:57.040 say he doesn't like Polyev. I don't think Trump much likes anybody except Trump. But that hangover

00:36:01.760 is hitting Polyev. He is wearing the actions of what's going on south of the border. People are 0.95

00:36:08.200 upset, and they feel that Polyev won't stand up to Trump as strongly as a liberal would. That is

00:36:15.280 definitely impacting the polls, and it's really, really unfortunate. Even though Polyev's saying

00:36:20.720 all, in fact, the same things, and that's the bottom. There's part of the problem. You've got

00:36:23.680 to distinguish yourself. You're saying the same thing as the liberals. Well, then people say,

00:36:26.700 well, why don't I go with the, uh, the one I know, right? So just finally, one more on the issues

00:36:31.440 front was a question though, then on armed forces, because people talked about, uh, you know, I just

00:36:38.760 want to highlight issues throughout these shows too. Uh, people have talked about one of the things

00:36:42.580 where Trump has legitimate grievances with Canada. Canada hasn't pulled its weight with defense. You

00:36:47.740 know, Canada has always been able to get away with being lazy because you were next to a military

00:36:51.980 superpower. And there's truth to that. Our NATO obligations. We've never, ever, ever even come

00:36:56.320 close. Even when Trudeau talked about finally we'll expand the spending a bit on military,

00:37:00.360 he's talking like an eight-year timeline to try and reach 2% of our GDP. It's ridiculous. Well, 0.86

00:37:05.600 over 51% of people feel they should increase military spending. This is different. People

00:37:10.660 didn't traditionally think that way. 29% say at least maintain it. So we're talking 80% of

00:37:17.720 Canadians want the same military or more. This is an area that I don't think there's any single

00:37:24.060 thing, whether it's the border or dairy tariffs or anything else that's going to get Trump off

00:37:28.380 our case. Nobody knows exactly what he wants, but these are things that he has a valid point about.

00:37:33.580 So maybe we can see some campaigning on that. I mean, they talk about it. They've talked about

00:37:37.740 Arctic defense and expansions, but let's see the dollar number that the government's never afraid

00:37:42.600 of spending money. So how is it so hard to commit to bringing ourselves up to 2% of our GDP on

00:37:48.400 military? Why is that going to have to take seven or eight years? And if you're looking for popularity,

00:37:52.640 only seven people want a cut in military spending, and 13% of people, again, refused to answer,

00:37:58.160 so they weren't sure. That's a good, solid area to go to within things. I don't typically

00:38:03.420 celebrate campaigning on increasing spending on much of anything, but these are one of the areas

00:38:09.720 that perhaps the conservatives could distinguish themselves a little better, giving themselves a

00:38:13.940 plan, endearing themselves to voters, and hopefully shielding us a little more from the damage from

00:38:20.480 this trade war that's hitting on a political level and an economic one. As Dave was saying,

00:38:24.720 even things like golf clubs and such are going up. They're little annoyances for some people,

00:38:28.400 but they add up. And these are major issues for companies and such. Okay, I'm going to move on to

00:38:34.220 my next set of guests. They're here in person. And they're from New World Precious Metals,

00:38:39.360 because it's timely to talk to them right now. Because we have such a volatile economy,

00:38:45.920 markets are going into the sewer uh you know your savings are getting smaller what can you do about

00:38:52.380 it these guys are local and they got some options to uh offer us okay so we've got greg and tessa

00:38:57.600 from new world precious metals here in studio thanks for coming in to join me today guys

00:39:01.780 thanks for having us tori so so as i mentioned just before you guys came in i mean it's uh more

00:39:07.140 acute than ever when we got these these volatile markets people are worried about their savings i

00:39:11.040 mean the currencies are going up and down the value of investments right now and a lot of things

00:39:15.720 has, uh, certainly plummeted, uh, I guess what you guys offer, you know, is, is a hedge

00:39:21.980 against that instability, um, precious metals in particular.

00:39:25.820 So, I mean, explain kind of why have they held their value versus other, uh, commodities?

00:39:30.840 Yeah, well, gold and silver throughout time has maintained or exceeded the rate of inflation

00:39:35.680 and that's been it, and that's been its main role.

00:39:38.620 And that's why central banks and countries are currently stockpiling, buying records

00:39:42.260 amounts of it because it is, it is exactly what you said. It's a hedge against devaluating

00:39:46.620 currencies. And so all the currencies, all the main currencies are devaluating because of money

00:39:51.180 printing and because of debt and, um, and therefore gold and silver have been going up in, in, in

00:39:58.400 record ROI. So, um, you know, uh, 30% last year in gold and silver. And, and this year we're on

00:40:05.620 pace for double that while the stock market's flat and going down and it's overvalued. So,

00:40:10.840 So, yes, it's a hedge and we believe most portfolios, all portfolios should have a portion of gold and silver in it because of that reason.

00:40:18.920 So for an individual, if you've already got your investments tied up in conventional investments, you know, why should you consider that?

00:40:25.820 I mean, part of it is, I guess, that it holds, but there's a...

00:40:28.660 Well, there's two things that people can do if they're interested in moving a portion of their assets into precious metals.

00:40:35.220 If they're in a registered account, they can transfer or roll over a portion of their registered account with us or through our partner and have physical gold and silver inside their registered account.

00:40:49.280 Or many people are having, you know, GICs come up, et cetera, and they can take some money out of that and into our international account.

00:41:00.320 Want to talk about that one?

00:41:02.080 Yeah. And so offering these platforms, one of them being an international account in the Cayman Islands, which holds its physical metal in IDS Mississauga or Brinks Calgary, we just offer the best platforms out there.

00:41:16.640 A lot of people think of gold and silver as taking bars and coins home and hiding them, but there are ways of doing it.

00:41:23.100 But to answer your question directly is gold and silver have outperformed the stock markets and savings and averaged 9% a year, for example, for the last 25 years.

00:41:32.600 But banks and bank advisors don't tell you about it because you're literally taking money out of their system and into your own system that has no counterparty risk because it's not leveraged out and it actually belongs to you.

00:41:43.120 You have options borrowing against it, and it's actually less risky.

00:41:50.060 There's more options and less what-ifs in doing some of these new platforms, not just taking it home and hiding it.

00:41:55.380 Yeah, and you're buying an actual physical commodity.

00:41:57.580 I mean, that's the point of this, right?

00:41:59.060 I mean, fiat currencies, I mean, the government can, and we've seen many national examples.

00:42:02.640 If they overprint the resources like anything else, the value of it diminishes.

00:42:07.120 There's no giant store of gold.

00:42:09.160 I mean, there's mines going on, but there's nothing that's going to come and flood that market and knock the value of gold down anytime soon, I imagine.

00:42:16.880 So with that and being able then to transfer, that's, I guess, where people get a little worried too, though.

00:42:22.340 They want to move their funds, but you guys can facilitate that, help them, so they can get things out of their GIC or RRSP without a penalty or getting themselves in trouble, right?

00:42:32.340 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:42:33.020 So it stays, it's apples to apples.

00:42:35.000 It stays in the registered basket and moves to a new account that you can purchase the physical gold and silver in.

00:42:41.980 So there's no tax implication to that.

00:42:44.600 And for those that have the ability or the liquidity to invest in the international account side, you know, there's no management fees, sign up fees.

00:42:55.860 You know, it's a very simple, easy process and security of Cayman Islands jurisdiction.

00:43:03.080 The metal is physical, held in Canada.

00:43:07.300 So it's a really, yeah, like Greg said, you can borrow off it.

00:43:10.620 So corporate accounts, actually.

00:43:13.480 So it's not only individuals, but actually people that have treasuries with their corporations can hold physical gold and silver.

00:43:20.660 It's just a really great way to have checks and balances against a lot of this volatility going on.

00:43:26.600 Yeah, well, I mean, the commodity is the commodity and it doesn't change, too.

00:43:29.360 probably the issue you get and there's good and there's bad investment advisors.

00:43:32.540 I mean, that's just life they're always willing, but with mutual funds,

00:43:35.420 things like that, certain banks or individuals might have an interest to

00:43:37.800 push you towards this particular group or this particular bunch because they're

00:43:40.780 getting a commission, not necessarily they're getting you a better return

00:43:43.220 on your investment.

00:43:44.540 I mean, it doesn't make a difference as far as you guys, because it is the

00:43:47.780 value of gold is going to do what it's going to do and silver.

00:43:50.960 So, I mean, it gives you more of a common interest with the investor then.

00:43:54.860 Yeah.

00:43:55.420 Well, your audience can definitely appreciate that gold and silver is a

00:43:57.840 think-for-yourself investment or banks, and I'm not saying that we don't need banks, but at the

00:44:03.040 end of the day, as most advisors are given a high, low, medium, high risk basket of investments to

00:44:09.560 offer their clients. And they may even be diversified, but it is within their system.

00:44:16.400 So it's not diversified at all if it remains in the equity markets. And golden silver is truly

00:44:23.000 diversifying one's investment outside of the system. Yeah. So you said you could borrow against

00:44:27.640 that asset, which is good. It makes people comfortable as well, you know, because you

00:44:31.200 don't want to walk things away and you guys provide the ability to trade, buy, sell. But how

00:44:36.620 flexible is it for that? I mean, are people really locked in or you'd be penalized if you

00:44:40.540 change or move your portfolio much or? No, no, not at all. It's a physical asset that's highly

00:44:48.080 liquid so it's traded in all world markets it's traded on we say a phone call you know obviously

00:44:53.820 lots of communication happens via email in other ways these days but it's instantly liquid

00:45:00.020 and we can have money wired out to account in your legal name within you know three to five

00:45:07.500 business days so if you think of something like property land you know these are physical assets

00:45:13.060 that people feel secure in, but it takes a very long time to go through the sales process,

00:45:19.600 you know, to have your funds released. This is a way to have a physical asset that's very liquid

00:45:24.280 as far as borrowing against it. In my education around gold and silver, which started around 15

00:45:32.080 years ago, I began to learn how some of the most powerful families in the world,

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00:48:34.100 Of course, we understand that.

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00:48:39.400 look at service first and we really believe that we're helping people

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00:48:45.940 resetting your financial positions before any type of reset in this

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00:48:51.220 We don't know what it's going to do.

00:48:52.580 And those are the best times to be in gold and silver.

00:48:54.540 yeah and people need advice i mean different people might have different needs and what they

00:48:58.220 should do i mean that's where you could talk with somebody you know perhaps this portion is more

00:49:02.300 appropriate to go here for this long we don't necessarily know i mean different packages will

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00:49:25.980 you know so it's hit this kind of mainstream point but but the point behind all of that conversation

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00:49:52.220 that's brought to people through their through their uh wealth you know managers etc and again

00:49:57.900 we talked about how it doesn't really benefit their model right it's a paper or a digital

00:50:03.500 balance sheet right so it doesn't so we're kind of like well let's look at what the biggest players

00:50:09.340 are doing. And even if we're modest in our, in our portfolios, should we not be following and

00:50:15.340 also have a percentage of our portfolios in physical metals as well? So. Excellent. We'll

00:50:21.900 bring it down to the regular person. The time goes fast before I let you go. You know, what else did

00:50:26.160 you want to kind of hit upon with this or we can cover the works? Well, I wanted to add to those

00:50:30.000 central banks is, is, is the last time because gold and silver is also the most predictable market in

00:50:34.760 the world because it's the oldest so we go in cycles and not only are we excited about uh you

00:50:40.180 know the the regular average return of nine percent but we believe we're in a full-blown

00:50:44.660 just starting bold market in gold and silver the last bold market that that uh central banks and

00:50:49.500 countries bought records amounts of gold and silver was in the 1970s and it was followed by

00:50:53.320 the 800 increase in the gold prices and over a thousand percent increase in the silver prices

00:50:57.200 and we believe that's coming again and it's just getting started yeah well nobody's mutual funds

00:51:01.520 that can claim that kind of growth, uh, you know, reality.

00:51:04.400 So, uh, most important of all, where can people find you?

00:51:06.260 How are we going to get ahold of New World Precious Metals?

00:51:08.760 Yeah.

00:51:09.100 So our website is newworldpm, standing for precious metals.com.

00:51:13.980 So newworldpm.com and, uh, it's probably the easiest way to get ahold of us is

00:51:18.460 just go online and, and find us there.

00:51:20.720 Right on.

00:51:21.180 Well, thanks for coming in to talk to us today.

00:51:23.240 And, uh, yeah, these important things.

00:51:25.020 I mean, we all are working and striving to hopefully, you know, just save a

00:51:28.520 nest egg and retire somewhat comfortably.

00:51:30.420 And again, it's not always about making millions.

00:51:32.500 You just want to be secure.

00:51:33.720 Well, let's protect what we work so hard for, you know, and our metals are 100%

00:51:39.580 insured, um, you know, and not even any of your investments in our, can say that,

00:51:44.740 you know, with CIC, et cetera.

00:51:46.140 So yeah, well, you can't destroy, just destroy the gold.

00:51:48.740 It's not going to go in a fire or something like that.

00:51:50.660 So it's, that's, it's pretty high or even a tarnish.

00:51:55.320 Except for the silver.

00:51:56.140 We have to get a cloth out.

00:51:57.180 Yeah.

00:51:57.820 You get a little black. 0.99

00:51:59.260 All right.

00:51:59.660 Well, thank you again, guys.

00:52:00.900 And, uh, well, I look forward to talking again.

00:52:02.660 Thank you so much, Corey.

00:52:03.500 Thanks for having me.

00:52:04.220 Okay.

00:52:04.460 Thank you.

00:52:04.780 Take care.

00:52:05.140 Have a great day.

00:52:05.720 Corey, you'll work.

00:52:06.200 Thanks.

00:52:06.620 Yeah.

00:52:09.100 All right, guys.

00:52:09.980 So yeah, you know, it's just that those things are a little dry, I guess for some, but it's

00:52:14.860 important.

00:52:15.420 It really is, especially so you start getting a little gray around the muzzle like me.

00:52:19.420 I don't have a massive amount saved up for retirement.

00:52:21.580 I'm fortunate.

00:52:22.140 I've got a brilliant wife who's a bookkeeper who takes care of a lot of those things for 1.00

00:52:24.940 me, but you want to maximize.

00:52:26.460 And it's scary.

00:52:27.660 like what is going to happen in the next while it what if a big war does break out currencies can

00:52:33.340 really go to next to nothing and quickly if you're not uh careful with things and if that's what your

00:52:38.700 investments are based on you're in some serious trouble um way back a long time ago uh it'd be

00:52:45.660 the late 80s i went to the tour of the soviet union went through a few things it's just a

00:52:49.980 extreme example but uh you could buy a pack of cigarettes back there he's got awful russian 1.00

00:52:55.340 cigarettes you can smell them from five blocks away but there are 50 copex you know which was

00:52:59.640 half of a ruble uh for a package of cigarettes back then you know which i think came out to like

00:53:06.560 25 cents canadian or something it was a nice cheap cigarettes when i was over there i don't know what

00:53:11.400 the heck a ruble is worth now is it like hundreds and hundreds of rubles to a dollar or something

00:53:15.280 that rubles worth a penny i think or something it has gone to the toilet the soviets destroyed

00:53:19.580 their currency venezuela destroyed their currency you know some african countries just did some

00:53:23.380 horrific things with them. And if you were invested, you could end up in serious trouble

00:53:28.500 if that's where your savings were based. So just sharing advice. I mean, I'm not going to give

00:53:33.740 direct financial advice. That's why I brought the experts in for it. But always don't keep all your

00:53:39.040 eggs in one basket, I guess, is one of the more important things to kind of look at as, you know,

00:53:44.960 cliche as that might sound. Because, you know, you can put your investments at risk. So give

00:53:52.520 a look guys new world precious metals okay the next guest i come have coming on and again i think

00:53:57.840 it's timely and i i read his book and it's it's very good if you like reading history and i

00:54:02.660 certainly do and uh a good perspective on things he's with the the mcdonald laurier institute he

00:54:10.400 wrote a great column in there the other week as uh as well or a great column that came out from

00:54:15.340 that under that name uh his name is uh and this is where i tend to slaughter things perhaps you

00:54:19.740 can start things off with a correction, Patrick Dutille, or Patrice, I should say, Dutille.

00:54:26.540 That's fine for you. Thank you.

00:54:28.300 Okay, thanks. Sir John A. Macdonald, The Apocalyptic Year, 1885. So thank you for coming on to speak

00:54:35.900 with, you know, there's been many, many books written, of course, about Sir John A. Macdonald.

00:54:40.560 He founded the country, but you've written this and focused on, I mean, of his long career and

00:54:45.740 and founding of the nation, probably what was really the most challenging

00:54:49.140 and tumultuous year he endured.

00:54:51.740 Uh, can you kind of, what motivated you to write that particular year?

00:54:55.240 Well, I mean, you're right.

00:54:56.820 We, we think of Sir John A.

00:54:58.000 Macdonald, we used to think of Sir John A.

00:54:59.660 Macdonald as the founder of Canada, one of the founders of Canada in 1867.

00:55:04.780 Um, but there's another Macdonald, the one that comes to power after 18, in 1878,

00:55:10.780 and who has to deal with a multitude of problems all through the 1880s as a serious recession.

00:55:17.900 And what I thought needed to be done was a book that would focus on those particular trends through the 1980s.

00:55:29.380 And as I did more reading and more reading and more research, the year 1885 came into view.

00:55:35.880 Now, we all know 1885 because of the Riel Rebellion.

00:55:40.780 on the Saskatchewan river.

00:55:42.400 Um, but there's a whole bunch more things that happened, uh, to Sir John,

00:55:46.640 to the government of Canada, to Sir John McDonnell, the prime minister, that

00:55:50.100 really sheds a particular light on what it was like to be in government in the

00:55:55.540 mid 1880s and, uh, just dealing with a whole, a whole range of issues that are

00:56:00.900 international, um, regional and local.

00:56:06.000 So that's what makes it so, so fascinating.

00:56:09.400 Absolutely.

00:56:09.920 And some of what I read, I mean, just the same sort of challenges you see in the House

00:56:12.820 of Commons between the opposition and the leadership in some ways, you know, the times

00:56:18.040 have changed, but the attitudes haven't so much, but something else.

00:56:21.680 And that's what you wrote in your column more recently too, though.

00:56:24.140 This was, you didn't try to canonize Sir John A.

00:56:26.760 MacDonald, but at the same time, you wrote, we've got to stop trying to view these historical

00:56:32.380 figures through the modern lens.

00:56:35.000 You know, times have changed.

00:56:36.300 You can't measure them against what's acceptable, you know, or considered acceptable in the new millennia right now.

00:56:44.260 I mean, they were progressive for their times.

00:56:47.120 And with us kind of demonizing our past historical figures, there's been a terrible trend lately.

00:56:51.940 Oh, for sure. And I think that it's really been unfair.

00:56:55.660 What makes Sir John...

00:57:03.640 Okay, it looks like we might have lost Patrice for a moment.

00:57:05.900 So I think compelling, even Finchery, is that he was, say, regional difficulties,

00:57:12.940 and he's also dealing with a plague. Smallpox hits Canada in 1885. There's a whole range of issues.

00:57:20.220 You've got the big empires fighting it out in 1885. You've got demands on Canada from Great

00:57:26.620 Britain to get involved in Africa. It's a whole range of things. For me, a book like this shows

00:57:33.820 what it was like. Again, I come back to the difficulty of actually governing in 1885 and

00:57:40.460 showing how it wasn't an easy thing that accusations such that Johnny McDonald, for example,

00:57:46.940 was genocidal, that he did things that were unfair, that is simply misunderstanding the

00:57:55.580 realities that he was dealing with. And as it turns out, he reveals himself as a politician with

00:58:03.740 far-reaching ideas. I'll give you an example. In the middle of all this, he launches an initiative

00:58:11.020 to expand the right to vote. And who does he want to give the vote to? Women. Women. And not just 0.86

00:58:17.180 women, but Indigenous people. I mean, again, in 1885, Sir John MacDonald is battling with Riel,

00:58:25.260 fighting for a certain idea of Canada. But what kind of idea does he have? In my view,

00:58:30.460 It's a very progressive idea. He had ideas for the future of the country that were ambitious,

00:58:37.300 that were popular. I mean, I try to bring out in the book the fact that, you know, he's re-elected

00:58:43.920 in 1887. He loses a few seats, but he still wins the popular vote. He still wins government. I mean,

00:58:49.120 he still wins the majority of seats. And in Quebec in particular, he continues to increase his take

00:58:55.360 of votes. So when we're thinking of Sir John A. Macdonald today, and he's been demonized from

00:59:01.020 one end of the country to the other. He's been demonized in our schools. The statues have been

00:59:09.600 destroyed. Names of streets have been changed. We're not understanding what Sir John A. Macdonald

00:59:17.420 was about. And I think that if there's a message in all this is that we need to be a little bit

00:59:21.220 more modest in our 21st century and appreciate what he was doing, what he and his government

00:59:26.780 was doing.

00:59:27.480 Again, he's never alone.

00:59:29.520 What he was doing with his government.

00:59:32.560 And I think that if you actually look at the record, you're going to come to a different

00:59:37.020 understanding of Sir John A. and maybe appreciate him more.

00:59:40.680 And when he comes up in conversation, hopefully you'll have better arguments to defend the

00:59:48.820 record.

00:59:49.020 I think that his record is eminently defendable.

00:59:51.800 I find it hard to believe that people could have done much better than the way he did.

00:59:55.840 Yes, well, and your book adds a lot of great context to just what he was dealing with,

00:59:59.100 with First Nations people in a great period of transition, particularly in the West,

01:00:04.080 as, you know, we're getting expansionism going to the West from European settlers,

01:00:07.900 and you've got a population that's trying to adapt to a massive change over the course of just a couple generations.

01:00:15.060 Misguided policies, perhaps, but well-intentioned, like, for example,

01:00:17.700 trying to get First Nations people into agriculture,

01:00:20.260 saying, well, you have that land, we can turn you into farmers,

01:00:22.540 you can prosper, you can do well.

01:00:24.040 And they did try, they tried hard, but it just, it never took.

01:00:27.760 Well, it's, again, you know, on the face of it,

01:00:30.920 it's completely been hunter-gatherers who lived by the rhythm of the buffalo,

01:00:35.940 the bison, for 25, 30 generations.

01:00:41.220 And within one generation, the buffalo disappears.

01:00:45.620 This is ruinous.

01:00:47.700 And you have to feel you have to feel for the indigenous communities that were faced with with the extinction.

01:00:55.200 Now, the government could have done nothing. They could have done nothing.

01:00:59.400 But John A comes in and he says, no, we're going to do something.

01:01:02.700 We're going to we're going to we're going to provide rations.

01:01:05.660 The Americans didn't provide rations. We're going to provide rations. 0.93

01:01:09.500 We're going to provide model farms.

01:01:12.240 We're going to send agents to help the indigenous people make the transition.

01:01:17.700 to farming. Now, again, you know, we have trouble changing our habits in the 21st century. Can you

01:01:24.800 imagine being in the 19th, you know, in the 1880s, having to face this? It's incredible. It's

01:01:30.740 incredibly difficult. Now, the Indigenous people, to their credit, say, okay, you know, we're going 1.00

01:01:35.600 to do it. We're going to do it. And there are people, you know, the Blackfoot, for example, 0.93

01:01:40.640 who really do make that leap. And it's not easy, but they do still learn to farm. And there are

01:01:46.900 lots of good farms, you know, like literally turning on a dime, creating great farms in Alberta

01:01:52.620 and Saskatchewan that are model farms. And the fact is that MacDonald manages to succeed. He

01:02:01.340 succeeds in getting the allegiance of the indigenous people. You know, he was not at war

01:02:06.020 with the indigenous people. They were with him. They were all with him. They all said during the

01:02:10.800 Riel Rebellion, we're not with Riel. It was a pledge of loyalty to the government and to the

01:02:16.380 crown. Let's not forget that. You know, let's not forget that Sitting Bull, the American

01:02:22.540 Indigenous leader, came to Canada when Sir Johnny MacDonald is in power and seeks refuge in Canada

01:02:31.940 and will live there, live in Canada for four years. I mean, come on, let's understand Sir

01:02:38.100 Johnny MacDonald for what he did. It wasn't perfect, as you said. It wasn't perfect. You know,

01:02:43.420 People did suffer immensely. There was no railway. You could not ship enough food. You could not even calculate how much food you would need. And not surprisingly, come April or May, you know, there's going to be food. Food's going to be missing out. Was it deliberate? I don't think it was deliberate.

01:03:01.720 The Canadian government is under serious financial pressures.

01:03:06.500 It couldn't feed everybody, and it wasn't meant to feed everybody.

01:03:09.900 It was meant to subsidize, to add to the production the Indigenous people would do on their own. 0.99

01:03:18.200 It wasn't there, the Canadian rations were not there to feed people to do nothing.

01:03:23.400 It was really meant as an incentive.

01:03:25.760 You can look at it bitterly, or you can look at it the way it was meant.

01:03:30.760 And the same thing goes with the residential schools. Now, I'm not discounting the pain of residential schools in the 20th century, but the intention of the residential schools was to give the Indigenous people an opportunity to read and write and learn the math, to integrate into mainstream society.

01:03:49.640 You know, this is what MacDonald wants. Did he want to see them suppressed? Did he want to see

01:03:56.120 them eliminated? Absolutely not. You know, it was the farthest thing from his mind. So what you see

01:04:02.020 in Sir John A. MacDonald is a government that's actually trying to do things, and he's spending

01:04:06.960 a lot of money. You know, Indian Affairs in the mid-1880s is the third largest expense in the

01:04:12.320 government of Canada. So, you know, when we hear all this stuff about Sir John A., I'm simply saying,

01:04:16.960 look at the record, compare his record to anybody else. And you're going to see that

01:04:22.160 Sujane managed to be a progressive. He was a progressive conservative leader.

01:04:29.660 And he managed to, yeah, he took a lot of flack for the size of the Indigenous Affairs or, you

01:04:34.220 know, Indian Affairs budget from back in the day. He's on that hill. The easiest course, at least 1.00

01:04:39.660 again, I mean, nobody's trying to say he was a perfect man or polish the warts, but if he was

01:04:44.020 truly a genocidal madman who hated first nations people the easiest thing he could have done

01:04:47.960 is nothing and and unfortunately sickness and starvation would have taken the whole issue out

01:04:53.140 and and uh if you want to talk about sickness and and death i mean again in 1885 i talk about this

01:04:59.740 in the book there is serious harm be that in that 5 000 people in quebec die of smallpox

01:05:06.400 that's a lot of people that die in within the space of three or four months 5 000 people now

01:05:13.340 why is that? Well, it's because the Quebecois did not want to have vaccination against smallpox. They

01:05:18.700 actually fought it. The government of Canada provided vaccination to anybody who wanted it,

01:05:23.420 including the Indigenous, and the Indigenous took it. They had the vaccination against the smallpox,

01:05:28.540 and the Indigenous communities around Montreal were completely unaffected by smallpox. I mean,

01:05:34.380 how many lives did Sir John A., how many Indigenous lives did Sir John A. actually save?

01:05:39.340 You have to ask yourself, you know, going from 1867 with the purchase of Rupert's land, I mean, again, can you imagine if Canada had not purchased Rupert's land? You know, yeah, today it's seen as colonialism. Well, if Canada had not purchased Rupert's land, it would have been taken over by the Americans. What would have been the fate of the Indigenous people if the Americans had been allowed in? 0.61

01:06:01.840 I don't know. I mean, I'm saying we have to put MacDonald in a different light, in a light that is informed by fact. And if you see that, and if you see my argument, you have to say that this desacralization of MacDonald, the fact that these statues have been taken down.

01:06:25.280 You know, there used to be 11 statues to Sir John A. Macdonald. There are now two left out of the 11. That's not right. And I think it's, you know, when we're now being asked to really value our nationality, I think that we have to wonder, you know, what gave us this nationality? Well, I'm sorry, but it's going to be Sir John A. Macdonald. Sir John A. Macdonald defended the Canadian nationality. He had a certain idea about it, that's for sure.

01:06:49.160 but it was a Canada that was fair, a Canada that was robust, a Canada that, you know, that had

01:06:55.680 ambition. And I, that's the McDonald that I see. Yeah. Well, and to kind of close things out,

01:07:02.220 some of the irony and it shows the importance of knowing where we came from in our history.

01:07:07.180 So we don't repeat it in that McDonald grasped with an epidemic and had vaccine challenges with

01:07:14.180 some people on the uptake and, and, you know, centuries later, here we go,

01:07:18.020 going through it all again. So, um, before I let you go,

01:07:22.180 where can people find your work and where can they find your, your book? Uh,

01:07:25.480 well, thank you so much for asking. Uh, I do have a website,

01:07:29.780 patricedutil.com P A T R I C E D U T I L.com.

01:07:34.280 My books are available wherever you find books. Uh, and, uh,

01:07:38.500 I hope that, uh, people will, uh, will want to pick it up and,

01:07:41.900 and, uh, learn a little bit, learn a little bit,

01:07:44.180 about Sir John A. and how we could see him differently.

01:07:47.240 Great. Yes. And it's an interesting read. It really is.

01:07:49.440 And I'm just saying that because he's the guest on here.

01:07:51.380 If it was dry, I wouldn't have reached out to bring him on.

01:07:53.640 You're very kind. You're very kind.

01:07:55.140 I appreciate it. And I appreciate you coming on to talk to us

01:07:57.820 and look forward to your future work. So thank you again.

01:08:01.440 Thank you very much, Corey.

01:08:02.420 All right. So, yes, that is, again, Patrice Dutille.

01:08:07.640 He's okay. Help me with that. See, I'm learning as I go with these things.

01:08:10.920 And again, the book Sir John A. MacDonald,

01:08:12.260 The Apocalyptic Year in 1885, and he's done other works as well, and you'll see pieces from the

01:08:18.300 Macdonald-Laurier Institute. And, you know, I just found it striking with the irony of vaccination,

01:08:26.140 epidemics, pandemics. So, you know, some of the mistakes we haven't learned from, I guess.

01:08:32.720 Perhaps the government should have studied a little more on why were the Québécois so reticent

01:08:38.620 to get vaccinated back then uh you know versus others uh there's some people who are opposed to

01:08:45.100 all vaccines under all circumstances no matter what you do okay fine they're there and unfortunately

01:08:50.380 uh we're seeing now outbreaks of measles and rubella and a lot of things we thought were

01:08:57.340 out of our skin because of past vaccination the rushed thing with covid you see we got

01:09:03.500 COVID didn't provide anywhere near, not even vaguely close to the threat of smallpox.

01:09:08.160 Not even, that's a whole separate show and discussion.

01:09:12.220 And then to have the government rush a vaccine the way it did and coerce so many people into getting it.

01:09:20.680 There's the interesting thing, you know, individual rights certainly weren't often really all that respected or recognized quite a, you know, a hundred and some years ago.

01:09:28.540 But they obviously didn't try to force the vaccine on Quebecois people back then, even though that seemed to appear to be addressing a much more dangerous disease than what COVID is.

01:09:37.280 Up here with COVID, the government said, oh no, we won't force you, but we will take away your ability to have a job or travel or participate in sports or go into public places or go into a restaurant for a meal.

01:09:48.940 They set vaccination back in this country and other countries over COVID, decades and decades.

01:09:54.560 So John A. MacDonald was setting it forward back then, you know, saving people from things like,

01:09:59.420 and again, since then, we don't have to worry about rabies, tetanus, a whole raft of things

01:10:04.280 that vaccines protect us from. I know some people don't believe any of them. That's fine. That's

01:10:08.920 you're right. The government should never force the vaccine. I think people should make the

01:10:12.100 rational decision to take the vaccine and most often experience the benefit of it. But these

01:10:19.400 issues actually are circular. And I got, I would suspect the smallpox vaccine though of back then

01:10:25.900 was probably a pretty rough one. You know, there were probably more adverse effects. I mean, again,

01:10:30.460 the smallpox itself was horrific. So you're willing to take that chance because again,

01:10:33.980 it wasn't anything like COVID. It wasn't a case of a flu that only harms people who were pretty

01:10:37.680 much got one foot out the door. Smallpox was killing people all over the place. So you're

01:10:42.140 willing to take that chance of an adverse effect from a primitive vaccine. But history, history is

01:10:47.940 so important and having a realistic lens.

01:10:50.800 So getting back to what, you know, Patrice was talking about that we're recrafting who

01:10:59.080 Sir John A. MacDonald was and his book is good in going into that.

01:11:03.640 He wasn't perfect, not by a long shot.

01:11:06.000 And yeah, he was a drinker.

01:11:08.160 You know, he made mistakes, but people are painting him as a genocidal madman and it's 0.99

01:11:13.520 ridiculous. 0.65

01:11:14.660 And the reason I wanted to bring him in, too, is that we've got this sudden resurgence of Canadian pride now that there's a trade war going on with the United States. 0.98

01:11:21.840 The hypocrisy of a whole lot of the bloody lefties, though, who are eager to help support the tearing down of Sir John A. Macdonald's statues, 0.99

01:11:29.400 who called him genocidal, who called contemporary Canadians genocidal, a load of horseshit. 0.99

01:11:35.520 But that's what they did. 0.98

01:11:37.280 And now suddenly they're patriotic Canadians. 0.99

01:11:39.380 Well, if you're going to be taking on that role today, read some frigging history, you jackasses. 0.99

01:11:44.660 Have a look. 0.99

01:11:45.320 Have a look at what really happened back then instead of this absurd self-loathing that you guys embraced.

01:11:52.880 With this, well, we're settlers in a genocidal state. 1.00

01:11:55.640 Oh, kiss my ass. 1.00

01:11:56.740 I was born here. 1.00

01:11:58.060 I haven't genocided anybody.

01:11:59.600 I'm not living on stolen land.

01:12:01.040 I've actually got a deed for mine.

01:12:03.000 That narrative has got to go.

01:12:05.060 It's divisive.

01:12:06.280 It's wrongheaded.

01:12:08.000 It harms us. 1.00

01:12:08.740 plus we're erasing our own bloody history which is stupid it really is have a critical eye 1.00

01:12:16.460 on your historic figures but don't erase them you morons they're what built us to where we are 1.00

01:12:23.040 as was pointed out johnny mcdonald's decades ahead when did women get the right to vote in 0.99

01:12:26.900 i believe it was 1917 he was decades and decades ahead it was probably a hard stance to take at

01:12:31.740 that time an important one but you're gonna crap on him so there's only two statues of him remaining 0.51

01:12:38.260 and you know speaking of nutless because let's talk about doug ford because he's boys captain

01:12:43.960 canada lately you know until he fell on his face with his his uh little it reminded me of you know

01:12:48.260 like a cartoon of a guy in a knight in shining armor running with his joust and then trips over

01:12:51.900 his own feet and lands in a mud puddle uh with uh you know i'm gonna take on trump and he retreated

01:12:57.080 as soon as uh he saw the light of trump's eyes but also in front of the ontario legislature

01:13:05.140 People see this, they may not have gone recently.

01:13:07.940 There's a big concrete box sitting out there, not concrete, plywood.

01:13:10.740 It's all covered up. What's that?

01:13:11.920 It's a statue of John A. MacDonald.

01:13:14.220 Been there for a long, long time.

01:13:15.960 But it kept getting vandalized by left extremists.

01:13:19.660 So rather than show the courage of protecting it, they boarded it up.

01:13:24.160 You wimps. 0.66

01:13:25.700 You wimps.

01:13:27.300 Just protect it. Stand up for it.

01:13:29.160 It's our history. Don't let these extremist clowns 1.00

01:13:31.820 pull it down and pull it away in calgary here we have the olympic plaza and along it there was a 0.97

01:13:38.860 fantastic uh the famous five five large bronze statues that were in there of the women who 0.98

01:13:46.040 brought about uh you know the right to vote the right to be people in canada all of that

01:13:49.820 emily murphy nelly mcclung i get the rest of the names important women though but the thing was

01:13:56.880 they started getting demonized because it turns out that nelly mcclung or was it murphy or maybe

01:14:01.980 both were pretty darn racist and they supported uh uh uh eugenics policies yeah that's that that's

01:14:10.100 the way it was a hundred and some years ago but they also brought about the right to vote quit 1.00

01:14:13.560 erasing somebody because they held views back then that were unacceptable today it's stupid 0.94

01:14:17.860 so they took those statues out of olympic plaza and put them in storage the city of calgary did 0.98

01:14:22.720 this. They're saying, no, no, no, it's not canceling. Okay. We don't know where we're

01:14:28.460 going to put them yet. I promise you, watch right now. Those pussies, and they are civil 1.00

01:14:32.320 governments of the worst, won't bring those out of storage. They don't want to bring them out of 1.00

01:14:36.900 storage. They don't want to put them somewhere else because they've already said they're not

01:14:40.960 going back into the new Olympic Plaza that they're renovating. So where are they going to put them?

01:14:45.060 They might stick them in the corner of some distant park or something. They were fantastic

01:14:49.060 statues. Thousands and thousands of people took pictures next to those statues. Thousands and

01:14:53.080 hundreds of thousands of young women, girls were inspired by the acts of those women. 0.97

01:14:58.240 But our fools of today, trying to measure our historical figures in the lens of modern woke 0.96

01:15:05.680 ideology, are tearing them down. So books on our history are really important. And yeah, 0.93

01:15:12.660 they don't have to be puff pieces. You know, you don't have to make these figures look like gods

01:15:16.340 or geniuses all the time, or that they did everything right. But they weren't all wrong

01:15:21.860 either. And if we erase them all together, we don't get to learn from their successes or their

01:15:26.480 failures. The, you know, agricultural aspect, they tried and yet they failed. First Nations people 1.00

01:15:33.060 still today are a lot of prime farmland. They just didn't embrace farming. It's not their thing.

01:15:37.060 The next move was the residential schools. Here's an irony. A lot of people haven't read treaties.

01:15:42.560 Read them.

01:15:43.200 Read them.

01:15:43.540 They're all online.

01:15:44.760 They're actually relatively simple documents.

01:15:47.260 One of the commonalities in almost all the treaties, people read all these other rights

01:15:50.140 into them.

01:15:50.480 There's actually not a heck of a lot in there.

01:15:51.740 Most of it's talking about the extent of the land, which there was some bad dealing

01:15:55.600 on.

01:15:56.820 But when it came to obligations from the government, not many really, not a whole lot of the things

01:16:00.440 that we give them today, that's under the Indian Act.

01:16:02.620 That's a separate thing altogether.

01:16:03.940 But within the treaties, one of the things that was always there was education.

01:16:06.640 And that's because the chiefs demanded it.

01:16:08.700 They said, we need our young people educated.

01:16:12.440 They did understand that if in this modern world that's coming, the younger kids coming up are going to prosper, if they're going to do well, they need to know how to read, how to write, how to do basic math.

01:16:23.840 These things that were mysterious to them, looking at the other traders who were screwing them on deals while they're around there, or tradesmen who were ripping them off on the price of goods, because these weren't educated people.

01:16:34.280 They wanted that education, and then that's what brought about the residential schools. 0.80

01:16:37.520 It was actually a treaty obligation.

01:16:40.120 No, they weren't nice places.

01:16:42.500 Yes, there was abuse.

01:16:44.860 But again, we're recrafting what the actual history of those schools were.

01:16:48.200 Those schools were welcomed by a whole lot of First Nations people.

01:16:52.260 And why were they residential?

01:16:53.320 Well, it's because back in those times, you couldn't build one all over the place when

01:16:56.160 you had a scattered, still semi-nomadic population.

01:16:59.420 So you built centralized areas.

01:17:01.140 Yes, boarding schools.

01:17:02.080 I went to a boarding school.

01:17:02.940 Certainly not as tough as what the residential schools were.

01:17:05.860 No, I couldn't imagine.

01:17:06.660 But still, they were environments where they could bring them together with the intent

01:17:10.340 of educating.

01:17:11.540 And then it was religious organizations, yes, the Catholics and others that took that on,

01:17:14.940 that role.

01:17:15.740 And it was a high-discipline, rough environment.

01:17:18.880 And some of them did some awful things.

01:17:20.800 There's no doubt about it.

01:17:22.560 But let's quit pretending.

01:17:25.800 Every one of them was...

01:17:27.700 150,000 people over the course of 100 years went to those schools.

01:17:32.060 They're acting as if, and you listen to it when it comes to the settlements, as if every

01:17:34.720 First Nations person in Canada up to yesterday went to one.

01:17:37.960 No, 150,000.

01:17:39.640 Not that many.

01:17:40.420 And not all of them suffered.

01:17:41.880 Quit making that out to me.

01:17:42.740 A lot of them did.

01:17:44.400 But not all of them did.

01:17:45.800 But we keep expanding this victim rhetoric.

01:17:47.500 And where is it going, right?

01:17:48.740 And we, part of it now, I said, listen on the radio when I torture myself.

01:17:51.540 Listen to CBC Radio, our state broadcaster.

01:17:53.320 When they said, they were talking about a school survivor.

01:17:56.880 A day school survivor.

01:17:58.360 What?

01:17:58.960 I looked into it.

01:17:59.480 Yes.

01:18:00.120 They call themselves survivors if they went to a day school.

01:18:03.700 In other words, if they went to school.

01:18:05.600 Everybody went to school.

01:18:06.680 And yes, most of us survived.

01:18:08.360 we don't walk around calling ourselves survivors of it they went to school so even though it was

01:18:13.840 totally voluntary with schools on the reserves where kids went to school during the day went

01:18:17.740 home at night and now they're victims now they're going to be called survivors why well because we

01:18:22.440 cut some really big settlement checks the blackfoot reserve now called sixica that was referenced you

01:18:28.860 know when i was talking to my guest justin trudeau just cut them a check on a settlement for 20 000

01:18:33.040 per individual there they keep settling and settling and settling how much the kamloops

01:18:38.000 residential school area where zero bodies have been discovered, but they were given $12 million

01:18:41.840 to look for them, and they didn't bother looking. Unfortunately, victimhood is lucrative.

01:18:47.820 We should recognize real wrongs. We should avoid repeating real wrongs, but we keep building this

01:18:53.540 intergenerational BS victimhood. It's not serving anybody. So read your history. Appreciate what

01:19:01.260 they did right. Learn from what they did wrong, because if you cancel them, nobody wins. All

01:19:07.740 let's see a few more items getting federally before i get going here guys uh let's see trudeau's

01:19:12.220 spent 15 million dollars the liberals to facilitate dei warfare in the middle east

01:19:19.340 how do you like that speaking of screwing you for your dollars right 15 million bucks 1.00

01:19:24.380 dei so they got to make sure that middle eastern armies have the appropriate amount of trans people

01:19:32.140 in them or women that's part of it guess what guys the middle eastern countries don't even let 0.99

01:19:37.500 the woman drive they're not gonna have them in their armies where did you put that money what 1.00

01:19:43.900 a stupid waste to know by the way trans people gay people they kill them there so i don't know 1.00

01:19:50.940 where your dei warfare dollars went but that goes on top of yes the trudeau in his 10 years in there 1.00

01:19:57.340 11 billion dollars on overseas gender programs 11 billion yeah with a b on gender programs how

01:20:07.340 much can you talk about gender apparently 11 billion dollars worth of it you can

01:20:12.940 all right let's see what else we got going on we got a flame duck foreign minister uh

01:20:17.500 melanie joely gi joely wearing her nice green stuff she said some g7 summit that'll be something

01:20:22.140 interesting to watch. We're getting into the election. We have a G77 summit we're hosting in

01:20:27.060 Canada in June. Uh, presumably we'll have a prime minister elected by then. And there's a lot of

01:20:33.220 discussion whether or not Trump will be at. I don't know. Uh, so yeah. And as Dave mentioned,

01:20:39.720 Stephen Gilboa has been removed as environment minister in, in Carney's cabinet, whatever it

01:20:43.620 may be. Uh, again, we're just polishing a turd. You know, there's only so much you can do that

01:20:48.520 party needs rejuvenation, even if the liberals win re-election. Oh, let's hope they don't.

01:20:55.740 The new prime minister needs a new pool for cabinet. You've got to get rid of those old

01:20:59.380 ones, Jolie, Gilbeau. I mean, Trudeau did DEI cabinet appointments, which means he always

01:21:03.880 wanted to maintain a gender balance and a racial balance if he could, but he wasn't worried about

01:21:07.640 competency, and it shows with a lot of them who were in there. All right, but that's enough for

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Western Standard - March 15, 2025

Carney is in. Now what？

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