Western Standard - Carney talks big in Davos, delivers little at home

00:00:00.000 Good evening, Western Standard viewers, and welcome to Hannaford, a weekly politics show

00:00:21.260 of the Western Standard. It is Thursday, January the 29th. Just over a week ago, Prime Minister

00:00:27.120 Mark Carney delivered a widely acclaimed keynote speech at Davos, Switzerland, to the World Economic

00:00:33.680 Forum, and he declared the old world order dead and committed Canada to be leading a new one.

00:00:41.340 Technically, as a speechwriter from the old days for a Canadian prime minister, I must say that

00:00:46.660 his remarks were well prepared and delivered. But is his analysis correct? And is the strategy that

00:00:54.660 And he's proposing for Canada capable of restoring the country's status in the world.

00:01:00.700 Joining us now is David Knight Legg, a strategic advisor to the Alberta government, energy

00:01:06.260 and financial services firms.

00:01:09.240 And he is no stranger to the Western standard.

00:01:11.720 Good to have you back, David.

00:01:13.640 Great to be here.

00:01:14.640 Great to see you again, Nigel.

00:01:16.780 And likewise, David, like everybody else who listened to Mr. Carney's speech at Davos,

00:01:21.220 I was impressed with the remarks as a piece of prose.

00:01:24.660 Aristotle applauds from the grave, and perhaps Thucydides too. And yet I have that feeling

00:01:30.340 there's something off here, that I'm missing. I'm being conned. And as I thought about it,

00:01:35.300 it occurred to me that Mr. Carney is lamenting something, that is, the international rules-based

00:01:41.060 order, that never really was. He even says so in a kind of way later. So when he remarks that we

00:01:48.900 knew the story of the international rules-based order was partially false,

00:01:52.820 So his basic takeaway was that Trump, we didn't actually name, had ended this apocryphal international rules-based order, and the new reality was a multipolar world in which the big powers did what they wanted.

00:02:06.960 To me, that sounds very much like the world before the Second World War.

00:02:10.080 So first question, isn't Mr. Carney's multipolar world actually just business as usual?

00:02:16.860 Yeah, of course it is.

00:02:18.220 Yeah, I think the appeal of his speech took two or three different vectors, and I think, you know, it was appealing.

00:02:32.300 The thing that surprised me about the speech is it was a speech that would be given by a well-informed spectator.

00:02:38.620 It was a speech of a political science professor, a law professor.

00:02:42.440 in an odd way it wasn't a speech that struck me as being given by a world leader and in some ways

00:02:50.380 i think people find that refreshing uh it was it was long on description uh you you've noted it

00:02:57.360 quoted aristotle thucydides hero of mine vaslav havel i think deeply misquoted vaslav havel

00:03:03.940 but as as a piece of art it was compelling because it described very effectively the state of the

00:03:11.340 world to some extent. I think what is odd for a world leader like Mark Carney is that it did

00:03:18.260 not draw any clear prescriptions, courses of action, and to the extent that it would have

00:03:23.660 his actual actions over the last nine months have been completely contrary to the theory of the

00:03:31.560 speech. And that's what's deeply problematic about it. The speech is excellent, but it's almost

00:03:38.260 like listening to somebody um that's a good cover band you can recognize the song you like it

00:03:45.940 but it's not the person who wrote it it's not what was intended by the person who wrote it

00:03:51.140 and it's being delivered by somebody who in many ways represents to my mind the opposite

00:03:56.580 of us mark carney mark carney wrote an op-ed in the middle of the freedom convoy

00:04:02.740 calling canadian citizens seditious that was carefully chosen language by somebody that knows

00:04:07.300 better it was followed through on as a as a matter of sedition and that his theory of the case which

00:04:15.040 he wrote in the op-ed was then shown to be deeply problematic for civil rights for freedom totally

00:04:21.940 totalitarian in every way the exact opposite of what someone like vassal pavel would have thought

00:04:28.020 was appropriate for people that were obviously political dissenters of mandates that ended up

00:04:36.140 being very quickly thrown out for being unscientific.

00:04:39.080 These were the people, these were the shopkeepers that had tossed the sign

00:04:42.600 out of the window, decided to stand up against totalitarian overreach

00:04:46.240 in their, in their country.

00:04:47.440 And the first person to oppose them and demand that the politically correct

00:04:52.840 totalitarian framing of COVID be enforced by a police state was Mark Carney,

00:04:59.040 who just gave a speech quoting Vassilov Havel.

00:05:03.240 So I'm going to come back.

00:05:04.300 I'd like to come back to Vaclav Havel in a minute, but for those people who actually

00:05:12.620 did listen to the speech, Mr. Carney did appear to offer a path forward, a path between what

00:05:21.660 he would say submission and isolation. It all sounds good, but it was supposed to be a coalition

00:05:28.380 of middle power countries coming together to do what they could given the polarity of China,

00:05:36.860 the United States, and Russia. But this kind of middle power alliance sounds a bit like the deer

00:05:46.220 forming a coalition against the wolves. Is that what you're getting at when you say that it's a

00:05:54.460 a bit delusional yeah look i think canada has the greatest opportunity economically in the planet

00:06:01.980 because we're only you know 45 50 million people we have 77 to 80 percent of our trade depends

00:06:10.680 entirely on the united states uh the next largest trade block we have is about 10 percent which is

00:06:17.420 all of the EU and the UK together.

00:06:20.280 And after that, China is around 4%, and then you've got, you know, single

00:06:25.320 digit percentages around the world.

00:06:28.080 Uh, so far, since Mark Harding was elected, we've had virtually no serious

00:06:33.520 progress on the most important trading relationship that we have.

00:06:37.180 So you can, you can give a speech citing Thucydides, and this is what you'd

00:06:41.180 expect of a law professor, political science professor, is an excellent

00:06:44.120 speech for somebody who's a spectator. It was a terrible speech for somebody who's got to

00:06:49.420 renegotiate Kuzma in the summer. It was a terrible speech in multiple levels. First of all,

00:06:55.160 it was the wrong speech to give because it drew a false moral equivalence between

00:06:59.860 great powers as if China and the United States are the same sort of problem because they're

00:07:04.740 hegemons. That's deeply reckless for anybody who's sailed out. It's especially reckless for 1.00

00:07:10.720 the leader of Canada, we have a series of actions that are being taken by his government

00:07:16.680 that are deeply counterproductive right now in the relationship that we have with the

00:07:20.640 United States.

00:07:21.600 They're counterproductive on the three things that matter most, energy, national security,

00:07:27.060 and economic security and trade.

00:07:29.680 So again, a speech is very important, but the person who gives the speech is as important

00:07:36.940 as the speech when the purpose of the speech is to outline or compel action.

00:07:42.520 And what had happened with this speech is this speech had followed very quickly after

00:07:47.760 a series of concessions were made to the world's most totalitarian state, China, in a juxtaposition 0.75

00:07:57.760 with the relationship with the United States, very intentionally drawn by the prime minister

00:08:02.960 and recklessly so.

00:08:04.020 So I think that the problem with the speech is not the quality of the speech. The delivery of the speech was exceptional. Aspects of the speech were very, very appealing in that it described the current moment in the way that a great political science professor would describe it.

00:08:19.640 But for Mark Carney, the prime minister of Canada, to have given that speech in light of the deep confusion around his interpretation of what the shopkeeper with the sign in the window in Vassal Havel's book, Power of the Powerless, was intended to address, Mark Carney himself represented in his op-ed against the Freedom Convoy, complete totalitarianism in the name of natural political dissent.

00:08:46.220 But in the current moment, that Václav Avel comment is all about the political correctness that is dominant in a place like Davos and has been dominant in the rhetoric and the positioning that Mark Carney has had on green issues and finance and things like GFADS.

00:09:04.160 So it's very awkward for someone like Mark Carney to be the one giving a Václav Avel quote.

00:09:11.700 The Thucydides quote on strength is fascinating,

00:09:15.460 but Thucydides, but he seemed to draw an unusual parallel.

00:09:18.820 Thucydides' arguments on strength weren't Nietzschean.

00:09:21.900 Thucydides' arguments and strengths were descriptive,

00:09:24.400 and they were descriptive in a way that was compelling courage

00:09:27.300 in the face of challenges.

00:09:29.420 And what I've seen in the Carney government is so far,

00:09:32.660 and I'm hoping that this will change,

00:09:35.140 especially in the next few weeks, and I hope quickly,

00:09:37.860 uh there there has to be a new level of honesty in this government on the cause of our economic

00:09:45.640 decline and our problem with trade the the rapid rise in the decline of canadian cities

00:09:51.800 and the rapid rise in violent crimes in across canada the rapid rise in uh physician-assisted

00:09:59.980 suicides the 50 000 kids that have died out of fentanyl and opioid overdoses in the last

00:10:05.800 decade of this complete nihilism with respect to drugs and the drug trade, the rapid growth

00:10:14.840 of criminal and terror syndicates across the country. Donald Trump is not to be blamed for

00:10:20.680 any of this. This has happened under a government that's adopted deeply progressive flawed ideas

00:10:26.480 about what to do in the face of crime. They've created more debt in, I think it's the first

00:10:34.520 seven years of their government than all their governments put together. And Mark Carney's just

00:10:38.760 delivered the worst peacetime deficit or the worst non-emergency deficit in the history of the

00:10:46.500 country. So you've got extraordinary debt. You've got the worst performing GDP per capita performance

00:10:53.360 in all 40 OECD nations, the worst performance in GDP growth in the G7 for the last 10 years.

00:11:01.760 you've got extraordinary problems with crime. You've got the worst results in the public service

00:11:06.960 in spite of the fact that in the last 10 years, they've bloated the public service more than 45%

00:11:12.520 and made it 75% more expensive. There's almost no metric right now that you can point to that

00:11:19.040 you could say the problem that Canada faces is Donald Trump. Almost every single one of these

00:11:24.380 metrics that are affecting our quality of life, our national security, the ability of people to

00:11:30.320 feel safe walking in our cities, you know, the rise in anti-Semitic crime, it just goes on and

00:11:36.500 on and on. This has to do with a series of failed policy ideas and failed presumptive ideological

00:11:41.300 ideas that Mark Carney has been in the forefront of in his party and that his party is responsible

00:11:47.280 for. And what they discovered when they ran the last election is that people, especially the older

00:11:55.020 demographics that depend on mainstream media that is funded by the government will see their lives

00:12:01.800 and see their opportunities through the lens of the framing that the government's given. And what

00:12:06.440 was convenient was to say, you know, there's a scary person running the United States and we're

00:12:11.340 going to stand up to him. And I think there's a certain amount of sort of political real politic

00:12:18.020 and strategic nous in the way that they ran that election. But I also think that that's bordered

00:12:24.060 very quickly on complete cynicism, and the fundamental problem with Mark Carney's speech

00:12:29.740 is not that it wasn't an excellent speech or that it was descriptively accurate of the moment we live

00:12:34.000 in. It's that the person giving it doesn't represent remotely the ideals behind what

00:12:40.500 Václav Evel was speaking about, and as a result, it struck me very much like the elbows up thing,

00:12:45.240 tactically effective but deeply cynical so what is the the game is he a true ideologue there are

00:12:55.320 things that he has has been associated with that would make you think that he was a green prime

00:13:01.880 minister and that was all that mattered we have to save the planet when there are so many arguments

00:13:06.140 if the planet has to be saved there isn't going to be canada doing it uh is is he just getting

00:13:13.820 Do you want electric cars from China so that we can have lower emissions?

00:13:18.540 Or is there something more deeply cynical?

00:13:20.720 Is he trying to make Canada a different kind of, intentionally,

00:13:23.920 trying to make Canada a different kind of place?

00:13:27.640 Look, I don't want to believe that of anybody that gives a lot of their time

00:13:33.140 and energy and effort to public service.

00:13:35.260 I think that at the end of the day, they must want to create a better world

00:13:41.620 for our kids to inherit, right?

00:13:43.240 I mean, I think that's the point and that's the purpose of most people that engage.

00:13:47.640 I think that what happens is the first order sort of instincts of anyone in politics is to win elections, hold the power so that you can then exercise it in the manner in which you think can secure the future for our kids and create a better society.

00:14:03.860 I think one of the things that I was hopeful about with Prime Minister Carney is that when he ran for the election, coming from outside the country, as he did, I was actually hopeful that that was a strength and that he would see that certain things about his party's ideological positioning, particularly with respect to energy and energy security, had gone way beyond any sort of rational rapprochement between the environment, energy, and economy.

00:14:29.620 and it had become completely dogmatic in ways that were just ridiculous.

00:14:34.520 The C-48, C-69 represents that.

00:14:36.980 But he got rid of the carbon tax.

00:14:38.540 He got rid of the capital gains tax,

00:14:40.140 some of the things that were deeply harming the economy.

00:14:44.260 And so my hope was, and it still is obviously because he is the prime minister,

00:14:51.140 that he has great people around him that are giving him good advice,

00:14:54.340 that the mistake that he made

00:14:58.560 by calling the Freedom Convoy seditious,

00:15:01.400 the enormous mistakes they've made

00:15:03.320 by maintaining C-69 and C-48,

00:15:06.300 which are just poking the bear in Alberta

00:15:11.480 in terms of the new run for independence.

00:15:15.140 You know, these are things that I am hoping

00:15:17.020 that he will see his way through

00:15:18.780 to something that's far more centrist

00:15:21.160 and far more representative

00:15:22.160 where most Canadians are at.

00:15:24.340 I thought the speech was excellent.

00:15:26.180 Most of my friends have sent me notes saying,

00:15:28.140 we really like your speech.

00:15:29.540 Congratulations.

00:15:31.160 You've got a great prime minister.

00:15:32.500 So it's hard for me to say.

00:15:34.920 I think the speech was morally confused

00:15:36.760 and that it's like a cover band covering a song that I like.

00:15:41.840 I love hearing anybody give Václav El's Power of the Powerless airtime.

00:15:47.000 And I think there's something deeply moving about his language.

00:15:50.380 And I think there's a lot about his language that's pertinent

00:15:52.280 to the current moment, especially if you think about these unbelievable places

00:15:56.980 like Iran and Russia and China under socialist Marxist

00:16:02.460 or Islamo-Marxist catalytarian regimes.

00:16:06.920 You hope that there's more Václav Havel and Thucydides

00:16:10.800 and some of those comments going on.

00:16:14.640 But what I hope in the case of Mark Carney is that he looks at the opportunity

00:16:18.120 right now to change Canada, to upgrade Canada's current political approach

00:16:24.500 and policy approaches to a freer economy where we can go back

00:16:28.400 to being one of the most prosperous nations

00:16:30.080 instead of the least prosperous in the United States.

00:16:31.700 Well, but that takes us back to the very public choice

00:16:34.940 that he made to go and embrace China.

00:16:37.780 I mean, this is, with his earlier experience through Brookfield with China,

00:16:43.820 No doubt he knows his ways around the corridors where the decisions are made.

00:16:49.420 But I find, just speaking for myself here, the idea of dumping the United States,

00:16:56.700 even if you don't like Mr. Trump, who won't be there in three years' time, to embrace

00:17:04.460 a nation with the ideals and practices of the People's Republic of China, I find that quite

00:17:09.900 abhorrent we have a bad history with china uh that makes me suspicious of what mr carney's

00:17:20.940 goals really are and you're making the case that we should give him a chance i think and

00:17:26.220 i think we've given him a year why are you not as cynical as i am david well look i i think there's

00:17:34.860 I don't think you're cynical,

00:17:38.920 Nigel, first of all.

00:17:40.820 A lot of people do.

00:17:42.440 Well, I think you're hopeful, and I think

00:17:44.580 one of the things that you're very good at is

00:17:46.600 pointing out what you think is

00:17:48.000 not working, and I think that's the appropriate

00:17:50.480 role of a good journalist, is to

00:17:52.680 sort of find whatever you think

00:17:54.680 the gaps are between

00:17:55.840 what's being said and what's actually being done.

00:17:59.680 And I think that's the biggest

00:18:00.640 challenge for the Carney administration

00:18:03.140 in Canada right now. I think

00:18:04.860 that uh that canada needs to do business with china china is a very important trading partner

00:18:10.740 because it's only four percent of our export gdp the united states is 77 the issue is not

00:18:17.300 whether or not mark carney has a conversation with china about you know their tariffs on canola uh

00:18:23.500 would that it was a conversation that needed to happen the issue is the craven way in which

00:18:28.860 Canada seems to naively bend the knee to China so easily and so often and in so many ways. 0.72

00:18:37.880 You know, the open border with respect to Chinese tribes in the port of Vancouver, 0.60

00:18:42.860 the fentanyl trade is disgusting.

00:18:45.020 And it's something that has been allowed to metastasize.

00:18:49.060 It's one of the worst cancers in Canadian society.

00:18:51.900 And yet it's somehow swept under the rug and not talked about very openly.

00:18:55.040 we have 50 000 kids that are dead because of the fentanyl and opioid crisis in this country

00:19:01.440 and when this was raised by the americans as part of their concern on the border

00:19:06.020 it was poo-pooed by our media it was treated as a pretext uh and instead of us just acknowledging

00:19:12.500 we have a huge crisis and it's a moral crisis so 50 000 young lives are gone in this country

00:19:18.660 where where do you read about this you know i find it absolutely extraordinary that we have something

00:19:23.920 death at that scale with a known supply chain that we seem completely incapable of actually

00:19:30.880 changing our laws to deal with. It's well known across Vancouver that the Mexican cartels and

00:19:35.900 the Chinese triads are in bed with each other. The Chinese look after laundering and they look 1.00

00:19:40.160 after the port and the cartels do whatever they want. The embarrassment to me of this issue being

00:19:45.480 raised and having our leadership scoff at the idea that we were potentially a fentanyl problem

00:19:51.540 when they knew it was all the southern border.

00:19:53.960 And yet the amount of fentanyl that they said

00:19:56.460 that we had found crossing the border

00:19:58.020 was less than the amount sitting on one shelf

00:20:00.900 in one super lab that gets busted

00:20:02.500 with the help of the FBI six months later.

00:20:05.340 I mean, it's just, it's extraordinarily embarrassing

00:20:07.300 when you look at the crisis,

00:20:10.460 the different pillars of crisis,

00:20:12.760 the relationship between China and the United States.

00:20:15.240 I was stunned when Meng Wanzhou was taken by Canada

00:20:19.720 and put under house arrest

00:20:20.880 at one of her three mansions in Vancouver,

00:20:23.560 and they illegally took hostage two of our diplomats.

00:20:27.220 The fact that their ambassador wasn't sent packing the next day

00:20:30.060 was extraordinary to me.

00:20:32.040 The Chinese see Canada as incredibly weak and pliable, 0.99

00:20:34.880 and I don't know why, and I know there's a lot of good work done.

00:20:37.100 There's an incredible young journalist, Sam Cooper,

00:20:39.940 who does exceptional work on Canada's overall security issues,

00:20:45.620 but he is very...

00:20:46.460 Yeah, we know Sam.

00:20:48.140 Yeah, and there's others that have done that too,

00:20:50.520 But I think he's exceptional. And so I think that for Canada to do any kind of business with China, we've got to not be seen as weak and naive. And unfortunately, I think we are seen that way. And I think we're seen that way with respect to their secret police stations. We're seen that way with respect to the way that they have been able to override any kind of common sense on some of the people that are put out for parliament. And, you know, CSIS has talked about this. So that's in the background. I understand why you would say you're cynical.

00:21:20.520 I think that as a nation, we've got to be able to do deals with all countries.

00:21:24.660 I'm a free trade maximalist.

00:21:27.380 You know, I think Canada should be working very hard at creating global market infrastructure.

00:21:31.560 I think that, for instance, when China, when the U.S. took over Venezuela, and I wrote an op-ed on this defending it as illegal, that what they did was legal when they renditioned Marduro.

00:21:45.620 You know, China lost around 550,000 barrels a day.

00:21:50.520 from that uh incident from venezuela venezuela heavy crude um alberta can actually provide all

00:21:58.120 of that if we reinstate the northern gateway uh we could provide all of that back to china it would

00:22:03.640 be a 16 billion dollar a year trade for us it would give us additional leverage in china would 0.66

00:22:09.400 go as 15 more of our output uh going in the direction of a uh another uh superpower other

00:22:17.000 than the United States. It would give us diplomatic leverage in China that actually matters to the

00:22:21.640 Chinese. And it would have been something that I would have loved to have seen come out of the 1.00

00:22:25.760 China conversation. So I don't want to be hypocritical in saying there are things that

00:22:30.280 I would love to see us do deals with China on. I think the Americans would have expect us

00:22:33.800 to do that. The President Trump was asked about this in Seattle. I'm glad they're doing deals to

00:22:38.140 China. People are realists and Canada needs to be realistic. But I didn't see us do a massive 0.98

00:22:44.580 energy deal with China. I saw us allow EVs into our country. The problem with EVs, by the way,

00:22:50.360 for those who think that the Americans are simply trying to be economic bullies, EVs are like

00:22:56.200 iPhones on wheels. They are extraordinary data collection machines. All of the BYD EVs have been

00:23:05.040 kicked out of one country in particular because of the security risks in the metadata that gets

00:23:10.260 transferred back to china uh there's a lot that i think canada has just been on a vacation from

00:23:15.540 history and and is therefore naive about china and the reason for that is because we're completely

00:23:22.160 protected by the united states from the geopolitical realities that they take on and so i

00:23:27.820 would go ahead i would love to see us just understand what the americans have told us

00:23:35.120 several times, which is they're integrating energy security with military national security with

00:23:42.440 trade security. And Canada continues to make a series of steps that I think are just naive to

00:23:49.460 the point of reckless with respect to all three. And so we've got to finish our F-35 purchase

00:23:55.900 instead of holding it up for yet another, after 20 years, you know, internal, you know,

00:24:04.400 able-gazing around what we're going to do on this. I think we have to expand NORAD to include

00:24:08.440 naval security in AUKUS. I think we have to integrate what we're doing in the Arctic with

00:24:13.300 what the Americans are going to be doing with Greenland. I think we have to get on with a 0.99

00:24:17.640 proper trade negotiation that acknowledges some of the risks that the Americans want us to address.

00:24:23.220 And I think we have to get rid of this decade-long experiment with green alarmism and get on with just building Canada's global energy infrastructure.

00:24:34.500 And if we don't, we're going to start to see the country fragment.

00:24:37.920 Well, I think that's what a lot of people are speculating about right now for all the reasons you've given.

00:24:43.560 We're almost out of time.

00:24:45.080 Let me just ask you this.

00:24:46.360 I believe you're traveling.

00:24:48.040 You're on a business trip to the Middle East.

00:24:50.540 Where are you today?

00:24:51.380 i mean abu dhabi right now yeah uh how are you finding it that's incredible it's uh

00:24:58.900 you know uh the the emirates were a dream uh back in the 50s and they they made it into an

00:25:06.260 extraordinary reality uh there are there are several countries in the uae dubai is very well

00:25:12.660 known abu dhabi is the largest and the and the energy rich uh nation um you know alberta alberta

00:25:21.220 could easily be the wealthiest nation in the world, actually, with 5 million people and more

00:25:27.880 oil than Russia, China, and the United States put together, and as much gas as Qatar. And this is

00:25:34.520 what I think Prime Minister Carney has got to be very careful about right now. You can't continue

00:25:39.940 to tie the hands of one of the world's largest energy superpowers, Alberta, behind their back

00:25:48.360 out of some dated idea of what eastern-based federalism looks like much longer before you're

00:25:54.040 going to start to just create strains that will crack. The first thing we should do is build

00:25:59.480 something in Calgary that's taller than the Brookfield building. That's what we say.

00:26:05.400 Well, the Burj Khalifa here is, you know, Dubai built the Burj Khalifa actually as a tribute to

00:26:12.120 to the gentleman from Abu Dhabi who built the Emirates.

00:26:17.240 And, you know, it's extraordinary to see what that level of vision can create.

00:26:21.840 And that's what I hope for Canada.

00:26:23.360 It's what I hope for Alberta.

00:26:26.080 And I think that Mark Carney has a lot of potential.

00:26:30.120 I was one of the very few.

00:26:31.240 I liked, like you, the speech, the way that I like a song,

00:26:36.160 but I thought that it was being played by a cover band,

00:26:39.560 not somebody that can speak for Vassilov Havel after writing about sedition

00:26:43.160 when it came to Canadian dissent on COVID.

00:26:47.240 David, we'll leave it there.

00:26:48.680 And thank you for that.

00:26:50.180 When you get back, if you want to be finding a 57 Buick

00:26:54.720 so you don't give all your personal information to the Chinese,

00:26:58.020 you'll join a few.

00:27:00.160 All right, ladies and gentlemen, thank you, David.

00:27:04.580 For The Western Standard, I'm Nigel Hannaford.

00:27:09.560 For more honors terms and more levels,

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Western Standard - January 30, 2026

Carney talks big in Davos, delivers little at home

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