Western Standard - October 23, 2020


CBC makes legal threat against the Western Standard

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Jonathan Dennis Corey Morgan Derek Fildebrandt Dave Naylor Mike Hogarth Danish Mohammed Mike Johnson Goliath Matt McClowry Audrey Hollingshed Andrea Kettle Andrew Lawton Ezra Levant Fern Peters Jeff Dewey Joe Man Jeff Dye
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The Western Standard has been served with a legal notice from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation demanding that they take down a graphic on their website calling the CBC "fake news." The Western Standard is fighting back, and Jonathan Dennis, their new legal counsel, is here to talk about it.

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00:00:00.000 Thank you.
00:00:30.000 Thank you.
00:01:00.000 Thank you.
00:01:30.000 Welcome to a special edition of the Western Standard.
00:01:33.340 I'm publisher Derek Fildebrand.
00:01:35.380 I'm joined today by, in the bottom right corner, Dave Naylor, news editor of the Western Standard.
00:01:42.560 In the upper right corner, Corey Morgan, our podcast editor and columnist with the Western Standard.
00:01:47.980 And a special guest and a friend of the Western Standard, Jonathan Dennis, former Minister of Justice and Solicitor General for the province of Alberta, and occasional talking head on the Western Standard.
00:02:00.360 I'll just give a brief introduction about what's happening.
00:02:05.940 I'm going to toss it to Dave Naylor for some details.
00:02:08.800 But in short, the Western Standard has been served with legal notice from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation that we would be, in their opinion, in violation of trademark law and have ordered us to take down a graphic calling the CBC fake news.
00:02:26.880 I won't dwell on too much.
00:02:30.220 I'll go straight to Dave Naylor for kind of a summary of what's happened.
00:02:33.300 And then we're going to discuss it with other panelists, including Jonathan Dennis, who's been hired as legal counsel for the Western Standard against the CBC's legal threat here.
00:02:44.340 Dave, why don't you go ahead?
00:02:46.180 Good afternoon, gentlemen.
00:02:47.860 Nothing like a controversy on a cold Friday afternoon to keep us occupied.
00:02:54.320 Derek, this started, as you know, earlier this week when a graphic went up on the Western Standard website using the CBC logo with the phrase fake news and then saying, if you want better coverage, go to the Western Standard as we're unbiased.
00:03:13.820 And that woke somebody up in the bureaucratic headquarters of CBC down in Toronto.
00:03:20.320 One of their lawyers sent out a nasty letter.
00:03:24.060 And, Derek, I'll throw it back to you and to say what's going to be happening in this David versus Goliath battle.
00:03:30.560 Well, the Western Standard has very clearly sent our response back to the CBC that we will not be complying in any way whatsoever with their orders to remove the graphic on the grounds that this is fair use.
00:03:50.340 But why don't I just toss it to Jonathan Dennis, our legal counsel, and, as I said, former Minister of Justice, Solicitor General for Alberta, and he can discuss what's been going on.
00:04:02.800 Thanks, Derek.
00:04:03.600 So let's just talk about the law on this point, first of all.
00:04:06.560 There's different sets of laws in Canada to deal with intellectual property.
00:04:10.480 That includes things like copyright and trademark.
00:04:12.380 Yesterday, the Western Standard received a letter from CBC's legal department suggesting that the uses of their GEM logo was an infringement of both copyright and trademark.
00:04:25.260 The law dealing with copyright is a federal act.
00:04:27.680 Section 29 of that particular act provides for what's called a fair dealing exception to that.
00:04:33.280 And specifically, there's a Supreme Court in Canada case from 2004 that states that, quote,
00:04:39.500 those who deal fairly with a work for purposes of research, private study, criticism, review, or news reporting do not infringe copyright.
00:04:49.300 Now, in this particular case, the Western Standard was not trying to sell any wares or pass the CBC's logo off as their own.
00:04:56.980 I would argue that there's clearly a fair dealing exception here.
00:05:00.480 The overarching issue to me is this isn't a left or right issue.
00:05:04.760 This isn't an issue whether or not you agree with what the Western Standard has to say.
00:05:08.800 No offense, Derek, I don't always agree with your reporting either.
00:05:11.380 But, you know, you have the right to publish your views as you see fit,
00:05:17.280 subject only to small limitations of things like defamation.
00:05:20.900 You haven't done anything like that.
00:05:22.520 This is simply an effort to censor an opposing view.
00:05:27.180 And, frankly, I salute you for standing up to this.
00:05:30.480 Thanks, Jonathan.
00:05:34.100 Yeah, we certainly appreciate the work you've done in crafting our initial response to the CBC,
00:05:41.400 telling them where to stick their threat.
00:05:43.380 I mean, the CBC receives, I think, about $1.3 billion a year in direct subsidies from taxpayers.
00:05:53.220 And they seem to have enough money left over for an entire legal department in which to try and bully and silence in lawfare some of the very few independent media outlets left in Canada.
00:06:06.740 The Western Standard is one of a very, very small number of media outlets in Canada that refuses to accept government funding of any kind whatsoever or to comply with media licensing.
00:06:20.500 Corey, what are your thoughts on this?
00:06:22.360 Well, it's I think the state broadcaster, I like calling him that, drives them mad.
00:06:29.520 They're not technically one, but they're pretty close.
00:06:31.920 It shows how vulnerable they're feeling, though.
00:06:33.980 They really are.
00:06:34.700 I mean, the face of media has changed and independent media sources such as the Western Standard, True North, Rebel, they're coming up and they're grabbing viewership.
00:06:44.600 And these old stalwarts of that obsolete media, you know, foundation really just don't know how to handle it and deal with it.
00:06:53.720 So they're lashing outwards, ridiculously in this case, but it's indicative of them losing their viewership and they're bitter and they really don't know how to deal with it.
00:07:04.580 And it's intolerable that our tax dollars essentially are being used at this point to try and push down alternative points of view out there.
00:07:12.020 I mean, if you're technically going to go on anything, the CBC should be based on bare discussion and having as many points of views in Canada as possible, not jealously guarding their little corner of the media.
00:07:22.120 Jonathan, maybe we should flesh out a bit more what the legal threat was.
00:07:29.660 We've got a question from Jeff Du.
00:07:32.940 I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing his name right.
00:07:35.080 Jeff Dewey, I'm not sure.
00:07:37.220 He says, what was the threat?
00:07:39.840 FFS, that means something we're not going to say on a broadcast.
00:07:44.520 But Jonathan, do you want to maybe go into the details about what actually was the legal threat?
00:07:49.440 So basically, the CBC's letter is published on your website, westernstandardonline.com.
00:07:55.800 I believe it's right up the front.
00:07:57.220 You scroll down a little bit, you can actually get the letter itself.
00:07:59.900 And don't believe me, believe what the CBC said in their particular letter.
00:08:03.320 So in that letter, basically, they're asking that you take down the tweet and that you agree that you're not going to use their gem, their logo in the future.
00:08:13.460 It's a very self-serving letter, like it talks about being the national broadcaster, how the gem is well known throughout Canada, which it is.
00:08:21.540 But realistically, the letter isn't signed by anybody.
00:08:25.680 It just says the particular legal department.
00:08:27.980 And they don't quite threaten legal action here, but I suspect that that may be the next letter if they don't take a look at what we've commented.
00:08:40.500 The last thing I want to offer to you, Derek, is that the Supreme Court of Canada has talked about a marketplace of ideas.
00:08:47.740 I'll give you this quote to think about.
00:08:49.400 It's in the Committee for Commonwealth of Canada v. Canada, a 1991 Supreme Court decision that states that, quote, free debate has often been perceived as the optimal means to discover the, quote, truth through the marketplace of ideas within which truth will ultimately prevail.
00:09:06.840 So the bottom line is this, is that this is an attempt to censor a opposing view that people at the CBC don't agree with.
00:09:14.620 And, you know, the CBC are entitled to their views.
00:09:17.140 We don't seek to censor them.
00:09:18.680 They should not be seeking to censor your news magazine.
00:09:24.300 Well, I think that clarifies it a bit.
00:09:28.500 Then we'll just go to a couple of questions and comments we've got here.
00:09:35.780 Again, this might be a question best directed towards Jonathan, but Joe Mann says,
00:09:40.660 Everyone knows the CBC engages in fake news.
00:09:43.180 The truth ain't slander or libelous.
00:09:45.000 But the problem is, of course, the courts are also government and they will always side with government run agencies.
00:09:52.040 I guess there's maybe two parts to that.
00:09:53.900 One is, you know, is it fair comment for us to refer to the CBC as fake news?
00:10:03.260 You know, would we be in any trouble on that?
00:10:06.520 And also, you know, the second part of his comment is that the courts are government and they'll side with government agencies.
00:10:13.520 So kind of two parts to his statement slash question.
00:10:16.540 You maybe want to touch on both?
00:10:17.840 OK, I can I can touch on both.
00:10:19.760 First, first off, there's there's such a thing as fair comment.
00:10:22.900 You're expressing an opinion.
00:10:24.220 They may not agree with your opinion and vice versa.
00:10:27.020 But the bottom line is that you have the right to go and state your opinion.
00:10:29.980 If you feel that the CBC is fake news, that's that's fair comment.
00:10:33.660 OK, you can back up your comment with whatever you want.
00:10:36.320 And some people will think it's fake news.
00:10:38.180 Frankly, Derek, some people will think that you have fake news.
00:10:40.240 But the point is, is that you we live in one of the most robust democracies in the world, and this should not be a situation where one party tries to prohibit another person's another person's free speech.
00:10:54.460 That's what this is about.
00:10:55.760 The second thing is that the courts are independent and the courts have made rulings against government run organizations in the past.
00:11:03.360 I do trust the courts in this in this country.
00:11:05.840 And particularly as you get to the higher courts, the Court of Appeal of Alberta, Supreme Court of Canada, you end up with with some very detailed and intricate decisions.
00:11:16.480 Most of these decisions are published and the court is designed to be a check and balance, not not just on citizens, but on governments.
00:11:23.860 So I would respectfully differ with the statement that that there's always a preference in the courts to to government run institutions.
00:11:33.420 In fact, the charter only applies to governments in this in this particular country.
00:11:37.420 So I, I would suggest that people here have to have to be held to the same standard, whether you're the CBC, whether you're the Western Standard or another organization.
00:11:46.980 The bottom line is that the same inalienable freedoms and rights that we have as Canadians applies here.
00:11:53.060 And and I frankly, as a as a voter myself, I'm offended that a broadcaster would actually seek to try to censor an opposing view.
00:12:03.420 Well, we've got some other comments here.
00:12:06.220 Andrea Kettleboro says, of course, they have to do that just to save their last vestiges of credibility.
00:12:13.100 No argument here.
00:12:15.300 The CBC's ratings have fallen off a cliff.
00:12:17.920 Virtually nobody watches it, but every single Canadian has to pay for it.
00:12:22.700 Matt McClain says, or Matt McClellan says, the CBC is the largest paid propaganda machine in Canada.
00:12:31.600 Thank you for standing up for us people that refuse to believe in that left wing narrative.
00:12:36.620 And I think it's pretty hard to say that the CBC isn't left, but I don't think it's about that.
00:12:42.860 I think it's about the state broadcaster, be it in Russia with Russia Today or or the CBC using its power and resources and immense taxpayer support to try and quash one of the few genuinely free press organizations in Canada.
00:13:00.340 There are a few, Corey Morgan listed off a number of them.
00:13:04.400 You know, what's kind of funny is if you, on Twitter, Russia Today, RT, you know, a lot of people are familiar with it.
00:13:11.900 On Twitter, it has a tag attached to its profile.
00:13:15.700 It says, I forget the exact name.
00:13:17.960 I think it says state affiliated or state sponsored.
00:13:21.080 And that's required for Russia Today, RT.
00:13:24.380 But the CBC does not require that, but yet it's governed entirely by the government.
00:13:31.600 Mike Hogarth says, have you thought about reaching out to True North or Rebel News for help?
00:13:38.740 I mean, those are separate news organizations, separate media organizations, and they kind of do their own thing.
00:13:43.760 I do know I've seen some folks from True North, like Andrew Lawton, on social media, smashing the CBC up for this.
00:13:54.700 I haven't paid too much attention to social media on this yet today, although I'm sure later on I'll check it out.
00:14:00.680 But I would strongly suspect that we're going to have strong support from the other independent media outlets.
00:14:06.300 It'll be interesting to see the way the other mainstream media outlets that are not as supported by government as the CBC come out on this.
00:14:15.580 How will Post Media respond, Toristar, Globe Media?
00:14:19.140 That'll be interesting.
00:14:21.740 Derek, what I would respectfully add here, again, this is not about left or right.
00:14:26.620 This is about basic rights that we have as Canadians.
00:14:30.980 And if somebody wants to disagree with the Western Standard, that's fine.
00:14:34.300 If you want to disagree with the CBC, that's fine as well.
00:14:36.940 But at the same time, it really seems that there is an attempt to censor an opposing view.
00:14:43.560 And that should not be welcome in a democracy as proud and robust as ours.
00:14:49.000 We've got some, I think, very confusing comments here.
00:14:52.920 I'm going to show them because I think they're funny in a weird way. 0.78
00:14:56.360 Mike Johnson just says, a fat Christian and a wealthy Jew. 0.98
00:15:00.320 I'm not sure what the hell you're talking about, Mike. 0.99
00:15:05.180 I already have my Jewish lawyer. 0.81
00:15:08.940 I'm actually not Jewish.
00:15:10.300 I'm a Christian.
00:15:11.020 And I've lost 23 pounds the last two months.
00:15:13.040 So I don't think I'm fat either.
00:15:15.060 Yeah.
00:15:15.500 I'm not wealthy.
00:15:16.860 I guess, technically, Corey might be.
00:15:21.660 But both Jonathan and I are German.
00:15:25.620 I'm not sure what the point is.
00:15:27.500 Neither of us are.
00:15:28.420 But I'm not sure it would matter.
00:15:29.660 I really, if there's a prejudice thing, like, I think we've moved beyond that as a society.
00:15:33.240 I'm really not sure what he's talking about.
00:15:35.120 I don't think it's like that, okay?
00:15:36.480 Yeah.
00:15:36.760 I'm not really sure what that's about.
00:15:39.200 Sorry.
00:15:39.600 Go ahead, Corey. 1.00
00:15:41.140 Oh, I'm just saying it's fun just calling out the fools when they want to play the idiots' games. 1.00
00:15:45.400 I mean, that's part of it, though. 1.00
00:15:46.340 We're not afraid of just discussing.
00:15:47.740 We don't want to censor these comments. 1.00
00:15:48.860 We just want to expose them as the idiocy that they are. 0.98
00:15:52.340 And, you know, getting back to this all being about speech, and as Jonathan said, with left and right, I would be just as offended if Press Progress was going through this sort of thing, which is a very left-wing online publication, and the CBC was going after them. 0.99
00:16:07.340 I mean, they have the right to be out there and not be pushed around by a state broadcaster like that.
00:16:14.100 Yeah.
00:16:16.660 Corey, you're 100% correct.
00:16:18.260 If we're going to stand up for free speech that we agree with, we also have to stand up for free speech that we disagree with.
00:16:25.320 I love standing. 1.00
00:16:26.960 Those of you who have followed me know that I love to retweet trolls who say crazy, stupid things. 0.99
00:16:32.680 I don't really know what Mike was going at. 0.99
00:16:34.460 I just don't know what his angle is here.
00:16:37.080 I hope it's nothing up that alley.
00:16:40.400 I just don't get it.
00:16:41.440 But I love the trolls. 1.00
00:16:43.200 I love people saying stupid things, and I like to share it. 0.99
00:16:45.660 That's why I don't get the whole Twitter and Facebook police idea of shutting people down. 0.99
00:16:50.440 I like to amplify silly things and expose it.
00:16:56.000 A very much different philosophy than they have with the CBC.
00:17:02.040 Audrey Hollingshed, if I said that right, says,
00:17:06.100 Oh boy, the CBC pot calling the kettle black.
00:17:11.000 We've had a tremendous outpouring of support right now.
00:17:13.660 We've launched a fundraising campaign for our legal fund.
00:17:22.380 That is to get donors to come on out and support what we're doing.
00:17:31.440 You don't even have to support the Western Standard.
00:17:33.600 It doesn't need to be your cup of tea.
00:17:35.000 But if you agree that the state broadcaster, the CBC, should not be using its $1.3 billion annual budget from taxpayers to try and crowd out some of the very few free press organizations left in Canada that do not receive any government support whatsoever,
00:17:55.300 then we've asked for your support.
00:17:57.420 We've already had a great outpouring of support for the Western Standard Legal Fund, and we're just going to show it on the side of the screen here.
00:18:05.400 But people can go to westernstandardonline.com forward slash CBC.
00:18:12.740 There we'll give you a bit of information about our CBC Legal Defense Fund, and you can just click right on the link about two-thirds of the way down and donate.
00:18:25.880 You know, whatever you can.
00:18:27.080 We understand these are pretty slim times, but $20, $50, $100, $1,000.
00:18:32.060 Whatever you can do is going to be a big help to make sure that if this goes to the next level, that we've got the resources available to take it on.
00:18:41.060 And any surplus that comes from this, because we don't know how far the CBC is going to take this, but any surplus that comes from this is going to go towards making sure that, obviously, we settle any legal bills.
00:18:51.580 But any surplus beyond that is going to go just to support Western Standard journalists and columnists, making sure we continue to do the work we do.
00:18:59.600 So, you know, there's a bit of, I mean, it's not the same, but this rings, this has got kind of echoes of the last time the government tried to take on the Western Standard.
00:19:14.840 And that was the original, older Western Standard, circa 2006, when, again, we're talking about this, when, and just for fun, we'll put it right back up in the corner.
00:19:24.700 There's Mo.
00:19:25.620 So we have, when the government tried to censor the Western Standard from publishing the famous Danish Mohammed cartoons and took the Western Standard to court, tried to silence it, and it ended up in a humiliating defeat for the government.
00:19:42.600 The government tried to get out of the case because they realized they were going to lose it.
00:19:46.520 And the Western Standard wanted to take it to the Supreme Court of Canada so they could challenge some of the so-called human rights legislation in Canada at the federal level, right at the Supreme Court.
00:19:55.580 The government's prosecutors realized this, and they tried to back out as fast as they could, but it was a humiliating legal defeat for the government.
00:20:03.660 Now this is the government trying to pick a fight with the Western Standard again.
00:20:08.200 I don't think it's going to go very well.
00:20:10.260 But, yeah, just the other week, last week, we republished the Mohammed cartoons after a teacher in Paris was beheaded for showing his class the Mohammed cartoons in a class about free speech and censorship, and we republished it.
00:20:24.000 We got some angry messages from some politically corrupt white liberal guilt types, and we got some angry messages from some angry religious zealots.
00:20:36.980 But we received an outpouring of support from people across Canada, even actually a few messages from people in Denmark, where this controversy originated more than a decade ago. 0.96
00:20:49.360 And so we were, you know, the Western Standard gives zero shits what the government thinks we can and should be publishing.
00:20:57.880 It's not their business. 0.51
00:20:59.940 That's how we rule.
00:21:01.720 But we really appreciate the support we've received so far for the Legal Defense Fund.
00:21:06.120 If you haven't already, please go to westernstandardonline.com slash cbc, and you can make a donation, whatever you're able to right there.
00:21:16.720 Corey, do you have any thoughts before we go?
00:21:21.760 No, just appreciate people watching, and let's, you know, keep watching us as we push back on this.
00:21:27.920 We're not going to be pushed around, and we won't tolerate other smaller outlets.
00:21:31.460 It's been a diversity of view that modern times have given us.
00:21:35.520 It's a wonderful period.
00:21:37.180 It means there's going to be a lot of sources of information and media that not necessarily everybody agrees with,
00:21:42.260 but rather than try and narrow it down to just a regulated few, we need to make sure that we have as many voices out there as possible.
00:21:48.720 So we're going to keep at it.
00:21:49.760 The irony of this is that in seeking to go after your publication, the CDC is inadvertently drawing more attention to what you've had to say.
00:22:06.380 It is pointless, especially with the advent of social media, to try to prohibit another person's speech.
00:22:12.140 You're just going to put them on a platform.
00:22:14.620 Absolutely, and speaking of that, let's just, so the CBC ordered us to take the social media graphic down.
00:22:21.400 Let's just put it right up for everyone to see, right there, big, beautiful.
00:22:27.200 That is what the CBC is so afraid of, this little social media graphic that not that many people like.
00:22:32.080 I think it got like nine retweets or something.
00:22:34.180 You've got a couple of shares on Facebook.
00:22:35.440 You know, it's admittedly actually not even our best quality work, but we, we're, you know, that is what all the fuss is about.
00:22:46.640 And the CBC regularly uses the logos of others.
00:22:54.660 They use, the CBC regularly uses, say, the Conservative Party of Canada's logo on some of its programs when they're talking about the Conservative Party.
00:23:01.680 It's called fair dealing.
00:23:03.120 Yeah, you can't use a part, you can't use a, an organization's logo to pretend you are that organization.
00:23:09.140 So, you know, if I put the CBC logo up in the corner here and try to, you know, try to pass us off as a CBC broadcast for some God knows what reason,
00:23:17.840 that would potentially be a breach of trademark.
00:23:21.080 But to use it in this context, in the context of pointing it out, making commentary about it,
00:23:28.720 there's nothing even vaguely illegal about that. 0.95
00:23:32.600 It's quite ridiculous.
00:23:34.300 Before we go, maybe we'll just go through a couple more comments here. 0.86
00:23:38.520 Oh, okay.
00:23:43.860 This makes slightly more sense.
00:23:47.980 So, Mike Hogarth says, in reference to comments from Mike Johnson, I think he was referring to Ezra Levant as a Jewish lawyer,
00:23:59.920 and maybe someone else, I think he was referring to media personalities from both True North. 0.99
00:24:06.560 There's still stupid comments. 1.00
00:24:08.640 They're probably, pretty silly comments. 1.00
00:24:10.640 There's no place for comments like that. 0.98
00:24:12.260 It's irrelevant, okay?
00:24:13.200 Yeah, yeah.
00:24:14.820 I don't think he meant it, now that we're seeing some context.
00:24:17.800 Maybe he didn't mean it in a bigoted way, but still probably not good.
00:24:25.960 Let's see.
00:24:27.580 Fern Peters, I like to connect to the news media and don't necessarily agree with it.
00:24:32.400 I want to learn all about opinions, not just ones I agree with.
00:24:35.660 You know, and that's what we try to do with the Western Standard.
00:24:37.400 We're trying to provide different opinions than you're going to see in a lot of the mainstream media.
00:24:42.020 As Corey discussed, there is a burgeoning industry of alternative, non-mainstream media across Canada right now,
00:24:51.580 across the entire world, and really what we're doing with the media bailout,
00:24:55.440 and by propping up the CBC, is we're delaying the inevitable.
00:24:58.380 We're subsidizing candles when the light bulb has been invented here,
00:25:02.640 and we're just delaying the inevitable change in the media industry.
00:25:06.020 They give the old legacy corporate media a permanent competitive advantage.
00:25:12.360 They get 25%, in most cases, of the salaries of all their staff paid for directly by the government,
00:25:18.860 sometimes entire positions subsidized.
00:25:23.020 You know, we have a case of, I think it's the Winnipeg Free Press,
00:25:26.240 where the publisher or one of the senior folks at the Winnipeg Free Press sits on the liberal media subsidy panel,
00:25:36.760 and he awarded his own paper some significant hefty taxpayer grants to hire so-called climate change journalists
00:25:46.680 and or correspondents, and they're giving themselves grants because the liberals don't want to have a politician directly doing it,
00:25:53.760 so they stack it full of liberal friends, and they're able to take the government money and award it to themselves,
00:26:00.480 and that's not what we do.
00:26:02.200 We don't take government money.
00:26:03.320 We're very proud of that fact, but the fact that we don't, and a few others don't like True North,
00:26:08.960 means that we're at a permanent competitive disadvantage,
00:26:11.800 and so we rely on people like our viewers and readers to become Western-centered members to support the work we're doing.
00:26:17.840 Well, we've got a bunch of comments here, but maybe we don't have time to go through it all today.
00:26:26.340 Is there a lot of attention that this is garnering?
00:26:28.140 It's probably much more than you usually receive on a cast like this.
00:26:33.100 Yeah.
00:26:33.800 I mean, this is what happened when the Human Rights Commission tried to shut down the Western Standard in 2006.
00:26:40.280 this became an international story where this was dominating headlines in other countries,
00:26:45.980 the United States and the UK and Australia, Germany, France. 0.99
00:26:50.520 I mean, this is what happens when the government does something stupid and tries to, you know, 1.00
00:26:55.660 use a Goliath foot to squash a David Bug here. 1.00
00:27:01.340 Maybe they just don't know who they're dealing with.
00:27:04.060 The Western Standard is very proud of being unconventional alternative media, 0.87
00:27:08.880 and the last thing we're ever going to do is give in to the CBC on something ridiculous like this.
00:27:16.140 Anyway, we got a bunch of comments from other folks.
00:27:18.540 We appreciate all your feedback.
00:27:20.200 We appreciate your questions and all your support.
00:27:23.600 Again, if you are able and have any means,
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00:27:33.540 so that if and when this goes to the next level,
00:27:37.880 we have the resources to take the CBC on and are not forced to make any kind of deal
00:27:44.540 because we don't make deals with the government.
00:27:46.660 It's not what we do.
00:27:48.100 But I appreciate everybody else coming on the panel.
00:27:51.660 Dave Naylor, news editor for the Western Standard.
00:27:54.060 Corey Morgan, podcast editor and columnist extraordinaire,
00:27:58.960 and Jonathan Dennis, the Western Standard is now legal counsel
00:28:02.520 and former Minister of Justice and Solicitor General of Alberta.
00:28:06.600 Thank you very much for tuning in, and God bless.
00:28:12.180 Have a good weekend.
00:28:24.060 Thank you.