Western Standard - Chemtrails and other nonsense

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00:01:00.000 good day welcome to the cory morgan show lots on the go today as always plenty of news man you know

00:01:09.060 it's summertime i kind of complain a little bit saying jesus there's just not enough going on i

00:01:12.600 miss when parliament's in session and all that stuff and then fall hits and then the hardest

00:01:16.140 part is trying to think about how much stuff i can jam in to rant and rave about over the course

00:01:20.660 45 minutes when there's so many subjects to choose from either way i got lots to cover today

00:01:25.180 my guest is going to be dr michael wagner he's been on before he writes columns for the western

00:01:29.460 Standard and he's written a number of books. He's got a new one out called Time to Leave and yes

00:01:34.640 it's a Western Independence themed book and there's the 18th anniversary of another of his books here

00:01:40.120 Canada Standing on Guard for Thee. We're going to talk about that and a few other things and

00:01:43.760 there are differences in views on things. I'm looking forward to that. I really like talking

00:01:46.820 to Michael when I get the chance. So yes as I said it's a beautiful fall day out there. It's nice

00:01:52.920 you know it looks like horrible weather coming into Florida. There's a hurricane moving in down

00:01:58.060 there. Hopefully it's not as bad as folks are being warned. I wonder who's controlling all that

00:02:03.240 weather that's making this happen. Who on the big weather gods has been fixing it so Alberta's 1.00

00:02:08.700 getting nice weather and Florida's getting beaten on? Why, it must be the chemtrails, right? Yeah,

00:02:13.120 I'm going to start on that, guys, because I'm getting sick of it. Look, political gotcha games

00:02:17.340 are one of the favorite tactics the hysteric left likes to use to try and paint conservatives as

00:02:21.740 crazy. One of the best gifts that a conservative politician can give an opponent is to appear to

00:02:26.740 embrace fringe conspiracy theories. Recently, Alberta Premier Daniel Smith stepped in it when

00:02:31.800 she appeared to lend credence to the long discredited chemtrails theory when she answered

00:02:36.320 a question at a town hall meeting. Smith never said the chemtrail theory had any validity or

00:02:41.080 that people should be concerned, but she answered the questioner as if it was a legitimate question

00:02:45.080 worthy of discourse. She really should have just dismissed it. It was an act of being polite to a

00:02:49.180 person who doubtless was genuinely concerned, but it didn't do the Premier of Albertans any favors.

00:02:53.620 The new scroll was taken up for days with legacy media members being aghast.

00:02:57.540 I mean, Andrew Coyne, of course, haughtily said,

00:03:00.900 Premier Loon, he loves saying that about Smith.

00:03:03.220 And of course, they implied that Smith was an adherent to kooky chemtrail theories.

00:03:07.260 The premier then had to waste time and energy clarifying and explaining where she stood

00:03:11.040 as her comments were taken out of context and they spread like wildfire.

00:03:15.580 So what's the lesson here?

00:03:17.100 It's a simple one.

00:03:18.060 Don't give time to bloody conspiracy theorists.

00:03:20.160 Look, look at the chemtrail thing and think about how unreasonable it is.

00:03:23.100 The chemtrail conspiracy theory assumes that all those jet contrails you'll see in the sky are

00:03:27.100 actually chemicals being sprayed to control the weather and to poison citizens. For this conspiracy

00:03:31.740 to work, one must assume that every commercial pilot, airline mechanic, baggage handler,

00:03:35.980 and even that pretty flight attendant is in on it, as well as every government in the world.

00:03:40.140 It's completely absurd. It's rather easy to debunk the theory. There's plenty of sources

00:03:44.140 online which lay out and lay terms how water vapor, and that's all it is, from aircraft exhaust

00:03:48.860 condenses at high elevations in certain conditions. There's plenty of photos from World War II showing

00:03:53.420 contrails as aircraft fought during the Battle of Britain, which kind of debunks those claims that

00:03:57.520 these are our new phenomena. Of course, those pictures might have been edited, right? That

00:04:01.740 1942 Photoshop. I'm confident that our Air Force veterans of World War II weren't part of any grand

00:04:06.660 conspiracy to modify the weather. If they were, I wish they would have made it a little better for

00:04:10.560 our January days. The ready facts countering chemtrail theories are lost on the adherence

00:04:15.320 of the conspiracy theory, though.

00:04:17.320 To try and debate with them is just to invite a barrage of anecdotes

00:04:20.120 and links to websites that share their odd world view.

00:04:23.080 And they also like moving the goalposts into a discussion of cloud-seeding practices,

00:04:26.640 which is something else altogether.

00:04:28.360 No, chemtrails are only one of the many of the conspiracy theories throwing around.

00:04:32.260 Of course, a troublesome and pervasive trend that's emerged lately among conspiracy theorists

00:04:36.400 has been the allegations of organized pedophile rings.

00:04:39.060 They believe that most aspects of the world are run by networks of pedophiles

00:04:43.140 who traffic our children and presumably molest them, 0.61

00:04:45.880 even apparently in pizza parlors.

00:04:47.400 It's bizarre and it's repugnant.

00:04:49.040 In Alberta, there's one social media activist

00:04:50.520 with a surprisingly large online following

00:04:52.840 who claims that Alberta Health Services

00:04:54.160 is actually a secret pedophile ring

00:04:55.920 and that news outlets who refuse to report

00:04:57.620 on his nutty allegations are part of the conspiracy.

00:04:59.840 It's more than a little offensive

00:05:00.920 and I suspect he's gonna be facing

00:05:02.140 a nasty civil action pretty soon

00:05:04.300 if he doesn't shut the hell up. 0.71

00:05:06.120 Pedophiles do exist and they're disgusting

00:05:09.040 and there are some vile networks that trade in children.

00:05:12.160 They have to be exposed, charged, and incarcerated at all costs.

00:05:15.440 That doesn't mean there's thousands of organized pedophile rings, though.

00:05:18.400 As awful as child molesters are, thankfully, they aren't as common as some conspiracy theorists would like us to believe they are,

00:05:25.420 and they tend to be loners.

00:05:26.880 I think part of it's an effort to make their villains appear as odious as possible,

00:05:31.120 or at least you don't have to quell questioning of their views.

00:05:32.860 They like to shut down debate by saying things like, oh, so you're okay with pedophile rings.

00:05:36.540 No.

00:05:37.620 But instead of letting them drag you into their perverse discourse with statements like that,

00:05:41.100 what people in politics or outside of politics should do is just disengage and ignore them.

00:05:45.280 There's nothing to be gained in trying to reason with them.

00:05:48.080 A popular saying today is, yesterday's conspiracies are today's realities.

00:05:51.580 In a couple cases, that's true.

00:05:52.740 In most cases, yesterday's conspiracies remain as goofy and unproven today as they ever were.

00:05:57.880 They just have better websites.

00:05:59.720 Just because some historic conspiracy theories have proven to have some merit,

00:06:02.860 it doesn't mean the other conspiracy theories are valid.

00:06:05.580 Since there's hundreds of theories out there, some are going to manage to have some merit to them now and then.

00:06:09.440 Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

00:06:12.040 We have some real issues to deal with, and our politicians can only focus on so many of them at a time.

00:06:16.080 Indulging conspiracy types doesn't pacify them, and it only distracts from serious business.

00:06:20.600 Just ask Conservative Party of BC leader John Rustad how much he enjoyed having to deal with the fake issue of 5G telephone networks spreading COVID-19 when he should have been campaigning.

00:06:30.360 woke activists and legacy media, they won't relent and they're going to keep trying to trap

00:06:34.140 conservative politicians. But why make it easy for them by dipping into the realm of conspiracy

00:06:38.200 theories? Now, I know I've invited a barrage of emails which will link to favorite conspiracy

00:06:42.040 theory sites. I'm not going to respond to any of them. I'm just going to forward them to my

00:06:46.340 masters among the little lizard people who control the media. That's what's got me going to start

00:06:51.460 things out today. Well, getting outside of the conspiracies, let's get a little more closer to

00:06:54.520 home. And Dave, are you... Why are you doing this to me? What have I done now? Because now I'm going

00:07:01.340 to get emails and email. Look, just to be clear, it's C. Morgan at Western Standard News, right?

00:07:07.240 Yes, Dot News. Dot News. I'm sorry. Okay, good. Send your emails there. What's with the dog tag?

00:07:13.640 The dog tag. This is for the bring them home for the hostages held by Hamas in Israel. 0.74

00:07:19.920 Yes, as my Jewish conspiracy masters told me to wear.

00:07:24.520 How's your football team doing?

00:07:25.680 Oh, God.

00:07:27.200 I saw a picture of you and Duke the Wonder Dog getting ready for the game on Sunday.

00:07:33.320 That was painful.

00:07:34.320 I got to admit, as I said, yes, I put that picture up because even Duke was hiding his face.

00:07:38.780 You know, as a Steelers fan, I got to admit, that was not a good game to watch.

00:07:42.240 It was a terrible game.

00:07:43.040 Dallas sucked, and the Steelers sucked more.

00:07:45.840 I'm still hoping for the best.

00:07:47.140 The season is young, but they stunk.

00:07:49.120 Well, it's not easy being a Seahawks fan either. We somehow lost to the Giants on the weekend, and there's Duke. It's really lovely. The legs all spread like that.

00:07:58.240 Yeah, and me laying there with a bowl on my belly. Yeah, Jane was kind enough to take that fine picture.

00:08:02.240 What's in the bowl?

00:08:03.240 Nothing at that point. I think it was a brownie or something. 0.99

00:08:05.920 Oh, okay. Well, my Seahawks have got San Fran tomorrow, so that'll be a tough test.

00:08:11.840 Anyways, on to the news. Right now, our site's leading off with the latest from the Saskatchewan election.

00:08:18.320 Correspondent Chris Oldcorn has the two major parties' policies on drug decriminalization

00:08:24.580 and safe-using sites and all sorts of stuff like that.

00:08:29.600 Close to Alberta, we've got the Canadian Taxpayers Federation calling on Premier Smith

00:08:35.420 to join Blaine Higgs, Premier of New Brunswick, in his court challenge against the carbon tax.

00:08:42.300 And Chris Sims with the CTF is urging her to do that.

00:08:47.520 Alberta, the UCP announced today a deal with resident doctors to get them more pay and

00:08:55.600 hopefully shorter hours, so that soothes one of those problems over. Interesting story on National

00:09:02.560 Public Safety Minister Bill Blair at the time and all the China interference, so it doesn't seem

00:09:07.680 like he was overly interested in being briefed and in fact worked dozens and dozens of days at home

00:09:13.520 and uh and didn't bother reading the briefings that's uh some of the allegations being heard at

00:09:18.640 the uh chinese interference uh commission sure isn't amazing you know see no evil hear no evil

00:09:25.280 among the liberal senior members when it comes to this oh that's crazy isn't it they obviously

00:09:29.440 don't want to know uh you mentioned hurricane milton we've got a really good 3d visualization

00:09:35.280 of what's going to happen when the storm surge hits today and i wouldn't want to be i wouldn't

00:09:40.960 Wouldn't want to be anywhere near it.

00:09:42.540 And I'll just mention a column by our Linda Slobodian.

00:09:45.600 Pierre Polyev was silenced yesterday and not allowed to ask questions in the Parliament question period, believe it or not.

00:09:52.880 All because he said some nasty things about Melanie Jolie.

00:09:56.280 And Linda's got her take on that. 1.00

00:09:58.020 And you don't have to guess too far to figure out what it's going to be, Corey.

00:10:02.060 No, I love how Linda rips into those issues. 1.00

00:10:04.400 She's fantastic.

00:10:05.560 Once she gets her claws into it, she's like a crazy cat lady. 1.00

00:10:09.400 Yes.

00:10:10.420 Sorry, lady.

00:10:11.140 Sorry, Justin.

00:10:11.880 I don't mean you're a crazy cat lady.

00:10:14.280 All right.

00:10:15.120 Well, lots to cover and lots going on.

00:10:17.620 I appreciate the check-in and the reminder of last weekend's Steeler game.

00:10:21.080 My pleasure.

00:10:21.820 All right.

00:10:22.600 That is our news editor, Dave Naylor, and that's when I like to remind you all.

00:10:27.180 It's a sign from Jim Bryson who says, chemtrails are real.

00:10:30.180 You're liars.

00:10:30.900 I just unsubscribed.

00:10:32.000 You traitors.

00:10:33.380 Oh, Jim, that's just the chemicals talking.

00:10:35.980 Stop.

00:10:36.420 look guys, for those who want sane news coverage and real things, check out westernstandard.news

00:10:43.500 is $9.99 a month, $100 a year guys. And yes, you know what? We do have columnists who will give a

00:10:49.260 little more credence to those things, but I'm not going to be one of them. And this is how we do

00:10:54.380 stay independent of control from the federal government or anybody else. We do stay accountable

00:10:59.400 to you. So I guess if my chemtrails comments upset enough, people will have lost enough

00:11:04.000 subscribers that perhaps we shouldn't talk about it anymore. But I'm not going to stop at this

00:11:08.700 point. Check it out, guys. If you've subscribed already, we do appreciate it. Sorry to have lost

00:11:13.620 your business, Jim. I hope that we can regain it once the chemtrail issue has been resolved.

00:11:19.300 Until then, the rest of you guys, you know, thank you for subscribing. And if you haven't yet,

00:11:23.460 get on board, guys. There's lots going on out there. Yeah, the House of Commons these days,

00:11:28.560 you know, always a gong show. Listening, I mean, the Liberals are so hard on the rocks right now,

00:11:36.920 they are in such dire straits and trouble, that it has become dysfunctional. I mean,

00:11:44.260 it's a complete mess. I don't know what the point of keeping this parliament alive anymore,

00:11:50.520 any longer is. I mean, people talk about Jagmeet Singh, you know, he's the one holding it up.

00:11:56.100 He's a coward. I like saying that on X all the time. I call him Jagmeet the weak. It works them

00:12:00.380 up, but it's true because he talks big, but he's a toothless tiger. And when it comes, push comes

00:12:05.880 to shove, he won't call an election. We're in a really bad state. We've got a minority government

00:12:10.680 that's sitting at like 20% support, but they are entrenched. We can't get them the heck out of

00:12:16.820 there because of our rotten system. Canada's system is broken. You know, I've said it many

00:12:23.100 times. So we've got a supposed, um, uh, you know, democracy going on, but we can't manage to invoke

00:12:30.920 with it when we get such a minority government with so many people against it. Uh, and Jagmeet

00:12:35.340 Singh, you know, people say that, Oh, he's just in it for the pension. And that the guy already

00:12:40.860 has his Rolexes and his $6,000 suits. I mean, I'm sure he'd like the pension, but that's not at all

00:12:46.040 that's holding it. The problem that he's having there actually, for the most part is, uh, uh,

00:12:51.820 they got no money. They don't have any money. The NDP has something like $300,000 sitting in the

00:13:00.500 bank. I believe the conservatives have 16 million. Elections are expensive. You need a lot. And the

00:13:07.840 NDP just, if an election was called, they would be devastated. They wouldn't be able to buy ad

00:13:11.800 space. They wouldn't be able to get campaign signs. So we've got the liberals terrified of

00:13:17.360 an election. We got the NDP terrified an election. And then we've just got this, they're just not

00:13:21.700 even hiding the premise of bias. I mean, Speaker Ferguson, he's just terrible. He's just terrible.

00:13:28.240 So yeah, for the spat with Angela, with Melanie Jolie there, she's our foreign affairs minister,

00:13:36.520 her terribly embarrassing one. Polyev was shut out of the parliament for it. And she called him

00:13:44.060 Nazi. She tried to tie him to Diagalon. Diagalon's a flaky online internet group that, you know,

00:13:55.100 they hold some crazy views. Some say they're trolls, some say they're real. I've seen some

00:13:58.720 of their stuff. I think they really are. There's some really offensive, weird, nasty people among

00:14:03.180 them, but whatever. There's nothing much to them. But either way, that group, I mean, they posted

00:14:09.400 about raping Polyev's wife. And Jolly is going to get up there and say that Polyev is actually

00:14:17.440 supporting that group? Come on, guys, get real. It's bizarre. And yeah, Paradoxie saying, yeah,

00:14:24.840 from the parliament that literally honored a Nazi. I do think I'm still going to lay that down when 0.99

00:14:30.360 they stood up for that Nazi there to just a case of having a low degree of history knowledge and 0.70

00:14:37.700 poor organization. I'm certain if in hindsight, if they'd have realized they were bringing in

00:14:43.320 somebody from the Waffen-SS, they probably would have said, you know, we're not going to have that

00:14:49.380 fella in there. I don't think for the most part they support Nazis, but they are so incompetent

00:14:55.560 and stupid that they did manage to bring one in there and get the whole place to stand up and

00:14:59.660 applaud him. And yeah, some people said also the conservatives got up and applauded the guy too.

00:15:02.980 Yeah, that's what they do. And actually, if you look at some of the footage from that, you can

00:15:07.140 see a few turning their eyes to the side saying, you know, their gears were turning. They were

00:15:10.860 saying, wait a minute, the date, this guy was fighting against the Russians and he was in

00:15:14.440 Ukraine. Oh, no. But, you know, you just kind of politely applaud and sit down and hope that 0.98

00:15:20.580 nobody would notice. And no, it's the House of Commons. People noticed and it hit the fan.

00:15:24.840 Parliament has managed to get worse over the course of a year. The discourse has gone downhill

00:15:29.600 and nothing is getting done. They are just beyond handcuffed. And even if and when the time comes

00:15:38.280 that we finally get rid of those liberals and we get the conservatives in, that's when people will

00:15:41.660 really discover how actually broken our system is, intractable it is, because that's when the

00:15:47.280 conservatives, you're going to find that they don't change a thing. And that's where my guest

00:15:50.040 can really answer a whole heck of a lot on that. He's been on before. He's Dr. Michael Wagner. He's

00:15:55.320 written a number of books, particularly on Western independence and other things. And he's got a

00:15:59.580 new book out and an anniversary edition of another book out. So thanks for coming on to

00:16:03.180 join me today, Michael. Thanks for having me, Corey. Can you hear me? I do. Yes. You're coming

00:16:07.820 in nice and clear. Okay, great. Because I didn't know if I needed a headset. No, no, you're coming

00:16:12.960 in good. So yeah, I'll just start with that. You know, I've got your books in here as well.

00:16:17.140 This is time to leave. Canada cannot be fixed. And as I was saying, with the gridlock going on

00:16:22.300 in parliament right now, kind of shows a little bit of that with a system being broken, you know,

00:16:25.960 not just the policies necessarily. And your other book, I mean, this is really nice looking. I got

00:16:31.820 to give them back to Nigel now. He lent them to me so I could read them. But Canada Standing on

00:16:35.640 Garford V, a really nice looking book. And it's your 18th anniversary of this one. So both

00:16:42.440 interesting reads. So with the time to leave, I mean, you've written, I'll let you explain it.

00:16:47.740 You've written on independence and sort of implied that it's time to leave for a while anyways.

00:16:51.960 What's new in this one to make the case a little better to people?

00:16:57.180 Yeah, well, I wrote my book, No Other Option, in 2021 as to present my case for independence.

00:17:02.880 I got written a history of the Alberta independence movement in 2009 called Alberta Separatism

00:17:07.360 Then and Now, but that wasn't an advocacy book so much, at least not explicitly, more subtly.

00:17:11.680 So in 2021, I wrote No Other Option to make the explicit case for Alberta independence.

00:17:16.140 And I found a lot of people were sympathetic, but so many people would say to me, you know,

00:17:19.560 Alberta should become independent but first we need to try to reform Canada and well after we've

00:17:25.340 tried to reform Canada if that doesn't work then we'll try to become independent but but for me

00:17:30.340 that was a frustrating argument because so much of our history for the last 40 or 50 years has

00:17:35.740 showed how we have tried to reform Canada and it didn't work and we've tried everything reasonable

00:17:41.060 so far and so I you know I wasn't expecting to write another book advocating Alberta independence

00:17:45.900 but i really had to counter the argument that we still need to try to reform canada because there

00:17:51.180 are many things i talk about in time to leave in more detail than in no other option that show we've

00:17:56.220 tried to reform canada and like the two biggest uh uh ways in which we tried to do that was you

00:18:02.620 know number one the reform party and number two senate reform and we started on senate reform you

00:18:06.940 know in the late by late 1970s so there are things we worked on for that many good albertans worked

00:18:11.980 on for many many years and and they didn't they were not successful and so i'm saying you know

00:18:16.380 we have tried to reform canada and since none of these efforts we've tried over the decades have

00:18:21.660 worked we really have to go now for the independence referendum that's the only thing we have left that

00:18:26.300 we haven't tried and you know when i talk about senate reform and the reform party these people

00:18:30.500 did the best like it's not a matter of we can do these again and do better we can't we had the very

00:18:35.220 best people you know in the reform party and advocating senate reform and if our very best

00:18:39.580 people cannot achieve it you know doing their very best then you know it's it's those are not viable

00:18:44.780 options for us and as you mentioned earlier you know it's a system that that's broken and central

00:18:49.020 canada benefits from the system so they do not want it reformed and so our only the only thing

00:18:53.900 we have left now is the independence referendum and so so time to leave is different from no

00:18:58.620 other option in the sense that it really focuses specifically on you know showing how we've tried

00:19:03.580 so many things that haven't worked that's kind of the main theme of the book and so you know

00:19:07.660 all these books cover the same time period in a sense because you know you know from the 1970s

00:19:12.860 up until now but but they're not covering they're they're using there's different information so

00:19:17.980 you're not if you buy one of the two of the books you're not getting the duplicated information

00:19:22.460 that way no and i understood that you know in reading it but i figured it best for you to

00:19:26.620 explain that so people don't realize you didn't just slap a new cover on an old book and uh and

00:19:30.460 sell it again there's something different and a different approach to things in the new ones

00:19:34.300 So I appreciate that. And then I saw you recently at the Ted Byfield event in Edmonton. And of course, you know, he was an amazing Albertan and, you know, he came from elsewhere in Alberta, but he established himself here.

00:19:48.740 And a little while ago, I read actually Ted Byfield, one of his books, and it reminded me once I read your, you know, standing on guard for V on the unapologetic social conservative and Christian stance, which is fine.

00:20:03.660 And I was really fascinated with it.

00:20:05.840 And I wanted to talk to you a little bit about that.

00:20:07.500 Not so much on the, I mean, we will talk a bit about the content of your book.

00:20:10.200 But you see, we're somebody like myself.

00:20:11.720 I'm very much not on the socially conservative side or a person of faith.

00:20:15.940 but we have a big commonality in supporting individual freedom and that's how we could sit

00:20:21.500 in the same room and and respect each other and and if we could fix the system that's how we could

00:20:27.960 all be satisfied like there is a way yeah for sure and you know for me you know I write about

00:20:34.920 um as you mentioned that that book that's being redone that's about um Christian political

00:20:40.300 activism in Canada and one of the main people in that like there's three key people I identify

00:20:45.760 that and one of them is ted byfield and then when i write about alberta independence topics

00:20:50.800 very often the key person again is ted byfield like he he really brings together both of those

00:20:56.160 elements but yeah i mean uh like well there's a there's a term i've used in one of my other books

00:21:00.720 that i call byfield conservatism and byfield conservatism is you know there's three principles

00:21:05.520 to it one is free enterprise economics he kind of libertarian side of things uh one is um you know

00:21:10.400 defense of western regional interests and one is uh defense of you know social conservative ideas

00:21:15.760 like traditional morality but you know so those are kind of the bedrock ideas of what i call

00:21:19.920 byfield conservatism which is in a sense alberta conservatism but there is so much in common in

00:21:24.800 terms of the individual freedom thing as you mentioned and and you know that's why you know

00:21:29.040 let's say a party like the ucp has elements of both and they can work together you know um in

00:21:34.160 in terms of like opposing the NDP, right, so.

00:21:37.420 Yeah, and I mean, I think that the common enemy

00:21:39.880 we always have is authoritarianism,

00:21:41.560 whether it's right or left, if it's too far,

00:21:44.500 then we can't stay in the room,

00:21:46.320 then we start fighting with each other,

00:21:47.780 and that's how we start spinning our wheels.

00:21:49.420 I saw just today, yet another one of those common type 0.67

00:21:52.740 of court challenges, it was down in the States,

00:21:54.380 it's been going for years, I guess,

00:21:55.720 somebody had demanded, I think it was in Colorado,

00:21:58.140 a trans cake, a cake, you know,

00:22:01.340 to celebrate his transition to a new gender.

00:22:06.300 You know, the court threw it out, finally.

00:22:10.120 Can't we have both sides?

00:22:11.300 Can you not just say this is a grown adult

00:22:12.860 and he or she can transition to whatever the heck

00:22:14.860 they please and go with what they will,

00:22:16.760 but this is also a private business owner

00:22:18.480 and if they don't want to provide this,

00:22:20.860 go to another bakery.

00:22:22.340 Like, it should be that simple,

00:22:24.540 but the far end on both sides are saying,

00:22:26.800 well, you shouldn't be allowed to do that as a grown adult

00:22:28.940 and the other side is saying you shouldn't be allowed

00:22:30.620 do that as an independent business owner and I think both are wrong. Yeah like I think that's

00:22:36.640 an important point you make there because you know a lot of the elements of I would term broadly the

00:22:42.840 sexual revolution and in its particular you know say the gay rights element a lot of it was

00:22:46.440 originally proposed as a libertarian idea let people live their lives as they want and do what

00:22:51.400 they want and there's and that gets support because that makes so much sense to so many people

00:22:55.100 you live the way you want let me live the way I want and we can get along together that way right

00:23:00.220 society but you have the examples like you brought up here's a christian businessman who does not

00:23:04.940 want to participate in certain uh you know baking a cake for certain activities or certain identities

00:23:10.860 and yet they go after him like once they realize that he won't you know a number he's got a number

00:23:16.300 of these cases that have happened because people go directly to him deliberately to cause him

00:23:19.820 trouble because they want to force him to embrace their their way of doing things now if they would

00:23:25.260 like back off from that and say well he's he's got his views we'll let him live according to his

00:23:29.420 views he can do that and we'll do our thing you know uh we'd have a lot more peace in society if

00:23:34.380 people were that way you know that that's the original libertarian thing you live your way and

00:23:38.540 i'll live mine you know that does provide a good basis but um but it's so hard for many people to

00:23:43.420 accept that you know when they see someone who doesn't agree with them they want to for some

00:23:46.860 reason or other take action to to shut that down or to force some kind of conformity and you know

00:23:51.420 we see a lot of the right now because the progressives are are in power one degree or another

00:23:56.860 they want to enforce conformity like we saw that with the ndp and the christian schools you know if

00:24:01.980 rachel not least government was going to shut down some christian schools because they were

00:24:05.180 unwilling to adopt certain uh pro lgbtq policies and if it wasn't for jason kenny being elected

00:24:11.260 in 2019 you know that would have gone ahead and it's it's because you know the progressives and

00:24:15.260 probably people on the right too to some degree have this thing that you must live according to

00:24:19.660 what i believe and if you don't then the government's going to make you do it you know what i

00:24:23.100 I mean? So, so that libertarian idealist is so much better in the sense of allowing people just

00:24:28.500 to live their own lives and not interfere with what other people are doing in their own business.

00:24:33.880 Well, yeah, and school choice. I mean, it's such an integral part of the whole thing, because I

00:24:37.520 think that's where a lot of people, they have their different views. They want their children

00:24:41.220 educated with values that they share. And right now they're not leaving the public system to be

00:24:48.120 a generic then reading, writing, and arithmetic institution. They're putting in woke values into

00:24:53.720 these institutions that a lot of parents differ with. People should have the choice then to put

00:24:58.600 their children into a different place. And that shouldn't be controversial. But it is, unfortunately.

00:25:04.400 I mean, you know, what's wrong with a Christian school? If you don't like it, don't go there. 1.00

00:25:08.220 But do you talk? I don't believe so. But I mean, you know, a voucher system, these are the things

00:25:12.980 we could explore with a new system. Like we could really bring about some things where we can allow

00:25:18.040 those freedoms and choice yeah well actually uh this is one of the areas of lots of interest to

00:25:24.440 me even though it's not in the standing on guard for the book um the idea of education because my

00:25:28.680 wife and i we've home educated right from the very beginning like we we've been firmly in that and so

00:25:33.480 in graduate school actually my kind of my area of expertise was on on school choice in alberta to

00:25:37.720 some degree so this is a very important issue you know the progressives like to talk about diversity

00:25:43.640 but then when it comes to school it's one size fits all and and the

00:25:48.040 The ideas that you're talking about, educational choice, that is genuine diversity.

00:25:52.320 You've got your public schools, charter schools, which are kind of public schools, different kinds of independent schools, home education.

00:25:58.220 The more options people have is the more genuine diversity you have and the more you actually serve the needs of the people.

00:26:05.240 There's different kinds of families with different views.

00:26:07.680 And when you have this kind of educational choice, like a vast amount of educational choice, that serves the families where they're at.

00:26:14.020 If they want to go to public school, there's probably one right down the road.

00:26:16.660 if they want a more specialized charter school maybe they can find one especially if they're

00:26:20.080 in a big city you know if there's a kind of private school that they want there's there's

00:26:24.120 lots of different kinds of ones uh you know in alberta you know partially depends on where you

00:26:28.180 live and and things like that and then home education you can do that in any part of the

00:26:31.360 province and then even within home education um there's like there's different degrees to which

00:26:35.440 you can you can follow the government curriculum or you can follow a different curriculum or you

00:26:39.160 can do what some people call unschooling where you just kind of let the children you know follow

00:26:43.220 their own interests to whichever degree but but there's so much like this is a real libertarian

00:26:48.740 uh success story educational choice that people can choose what's best for their family for their

00:26:54.420 children and they don't even have to choose one and stick with it you know if they can try something

00:26:57.540 that's not working for their kids like a lot of people in home education you know first sent their

00:27:01.300 kids to school and the school didn't work for them and so they can bring this child home and work

00:27:06.180 with the child home like there's just so much opportunity there and the more freedom there is

00:27:10.180 the more genuine diversity there is and the better the needs of the families and children are served

00:27:16.020 well absolutely i mean one of the areas getting outside of the social conflict and things like

00:27:20.340 that is different children's do respond differently to different types of education

00:27:24.740 some kids are really well geared for a hands-on they could be a fantastic mechanic or uh you know

00:27:30.580 or a trades person or something like that but in the public school they treat that as if it's

00:27:35.460 it's not a decent trade,

00:27:37.920 or they say that's where we stick the troublesome kids. 0.99

00:27:39.740 Well, no, actually.

00:27:41.240 And perhaps if those children were put into the schools

00:27:43.640 that they're better accustomed to,

00:27:45.940 they could be even better mechanics,

00:27:47.440 even better electricians and such,

00:27:50.040 and they'll do very well for themselves.

00:27:51.380 But you need to give that choice

00:27:52.620 to apply to the different kids.

00:27:53.680 As you said, we're trying to stuff everybody

00:27:55.540 into the same bowl and it's harming all of them.

00:27:59.560 Yeah, and you know, just as an example of that,

00:28:01.780 and this is something I think I've experienced

00:28:03.520 own life is like boys in particular develop a little bit slower than girls do you know academically

00:28:09.760 and some boys at certain ages you know are not ready to read like in we think in education well

00:28:15.040 at a certain age every child should be reading at a certain level you know what i mean but some boys

00:28:19.120 develop slower and and like i think i was that way because i remember in grade two i was taken out of

00:28:23.920 class to read with some new canadian children i was probably wasn't very good so when i was i was

00:28:28.800 forced to learn to read too early and so boys that are forced to read too early learn that reading is

00:28:35.040 hard that's one of the messages they get and they learn that they don't like reading you know what

00:28:39.280 i mean and later on reading became one of my favorite things but but for many years i didn't

00:28:43.120 like reading and i think it was because it was pushed on me too early you know what i mean i

00:28:47.040 wasn't quite ready for it i think that's true for many boys you know i've heard that before

00:28:50.480 well this boy he's not reading up to his level and you want to shove it down his throat and he's not

00:28:55.200 not going to like reading if you do that, you know what I mean? Or if you let them develop at their

00:28:58.640 own level when they're ready, then they will like it because they're ready for it.

00:29:04.020 There's a few gifts better than literacy. I'll kind of start closing to a good question from

00:29:09.680 one of the commenters. It kind of puts you on the spot. Maybe you don't have to come up with all

00:29:12.320 five, but it's a good question. Peter LaFontaine, you know, taking it back towards the independence

00:29:16.020 front, saying, can your guest list five key policies that most Albertans would want and agree

00:29:20.620 on and uh you know kind of then what we don't have though without the separation like what

00:29:25.820 are we being held up from then in the current system well i think that like the number one

00:29:32.460 thing would be economic development that we could do on our own um you know the climate change

00:29:37.100 policies as a trying sorry climate change policies of the trudeau government you know hamper our

00:29:42.620 economic development so i think albertans would uh agree for the most part on the need for

00:29:49.020 um having a robust development of our natural resources especially our energy energy resources

00:29:54.780 and i think we could do much better independently than under justin trudeau and the canadian

00:29:59.180 government um i don't know if i can do five uh i mean that's fine i just i present i just present

00:30:05.020 independence as an independent alberta albertans get to decide our future you know what i mean

00:30:10.300 like right now the way system the system is um people essentially you know generally speaking

00:30:15.980 in ontario and quebec they elect the government and they decide what what is best for alberta you

00:30:20.780 know in terms of the federal responsibilities and so they make these kind of policies like climate

00:30:24.780 change or you know uh trying to restrict uh freedom of expression on the internet and i could

00:30:29.980 you know if i had time i could probably think of others and these are not policies favored by

00:30:34.060 albertans these are favored by people i say in toronto and montreal where you know so many of

00:30:38.300 the votes come from that uh elect the government there so if we had our own government here in

00:30:42.700 Alberta the people who run the province would govern the province in accordance with the desires

00:30:49.500 of Albertans and not in accordance with the desires of people in Toronto and Montreal like they'd have

00:30:54.220 to we would be electing our own leaders and our own leaders would do what we want or else we'd get

00:30:57.980 rid of them right now as it is we hope that Justin Trudeau will lose the election next year but it's

00:31:04.860 not up to us we're always voting against him anyway it's up to people in Ontario and Quebec

00:31:08.380 to put them out but so our destiny is outside of our own control like this is a democracy we're

00:31:13.420 supposed to be able to elect the people that you know make these decisions for us and our own

00:31:16.700 destinies in our own control that is only possible for an independent country because right now our

00:31:20.940 destiny is controlled by people who are elected in you know toronto and montreal ottawa that kind

00:31:25.580 of area for the most part yeah and i mean just it's just that localized decision making it alone

00:31:31.500 i mean then we could we could spend a lot of time talking about the different individual policies

00:31:35.020 the main thing is that using independence as a catalyst to be able to rebuild that system

00:31:39.260 um so yeah the time went quickly and before i let you go you know these are the books where

00:31:43.180 can folks get out and get their copies and guys it's worth it michael's writing is great

00:31:47.900 okay well they're they're going to be available on amazon there's actually pages from amazon

00:31:51.660 they're standing on guard for thee you can pre-order it already it's being released in

00:31:55.260 uh january 1st uh time to leave um if there's a page for it on amazon the kindle's available

00:32:00.940 but for some reason amazon is dragging its feet on getting the paper copies available

00:32:04.780 But at some point, Amazon should have them there hopefully soon.

00:32:07.920 Also, there's a local Alberta business.

00:32:10.620 It's called Merchantship.

00:32:11.460 Their website is merchantship.ca.

00:32:13.500 They will be carrying both books.

00:32:15.640 Hopefully, they'll soon have time to leave available there.

00:32:18.140 I know they have copies.

00:32:19.120 They just haven't had time to put it up on their website yet.

00:32:21.940 Excellent.

00:32:22.540 Well, I appreciate you coming in to talk again.

00:32:24.740 It's been a while.

00:32:25.740 And I appreciate the writing.

00:32:28.340 And I hope folks rush out and get those.

00:32:30.160 So thanks again, Michael.

00:32:31.400 And I'm sure we'll talk again soon.

00:32:32.660 thanks for having me it's been great to talk to you great thank you so that is dr michael wagner

00:32:39.400 and yes he writes some great stuff particularly on the independence front you know if you google

00:32:43.720 his name and you google some of those things you will find your way to those copies and get them

00:32:47.860 they're a good read so you know getting on to the the side of um like i said in closing i mean i

00:32:54.740 know it was good to ask for five responses but just put a person on the spot and count them down

00:32:58.540 uh but we've got when you accept that the system's broken the structure the constitution the

00:33:04.360 agreement the contract whatever way you want to call it you know getting into the geekery

00:33:09.160 think of charlatan and meach lake that's the two last attempts to really kind of change the system

00:33:13.980 and they failed they didn't even come close so a province whether it's alberta or quebec or

00:33:20.460 whatever i personally anyways i think the only catalyst that's going to shake the country up

00:33:24.320 enough to inspire people to redraft the agreement will be an independence referendum. Nothing shy

00:33:30.560 of that is going to change it. And it's something I've said to others before. I've said it in my

00:33:34.880 book, and I'm certain, you know, Michael feels much the same. It's liberals stir people up and

00:33:40.900 help foster independence sentiment. But it's when conservatives hoop us that people really

00:33:46.780 have it entrenched. That's when they realize it's the system. That's when they realize the

00:33:50.520 Conservatives will be less bad, but they're still beholden to central Canada. And it's just math.

00:33:55.300 It's not personal. If they want to stay in power, they have to keep Toronto and Montreal satisfied.

00:34:00.700 And that's what creates the real independence advocates when they realize, wow, nothing's

00:34:05.820 changing no matter what party I put in there. Now we got to start looking at the system. And one of

00:34:10.920 the bigger fears, if we get to the point of an independence referendum and entrench a new system,

00:34:15.080 we got to be careful. Humans can screw up. And hey, I hate to admit it, but we can screw up in

00:34:18.180 the West too. We'd better make sure we put in a better system than the one we got out of,

00:34:21.820 because it's not impossible that we break free and we make something dumber and worse than what

00:34:26.660 we used to have. And that's where a lot of debate and discourse can happen too. I see another one

00:34:31.140 of the commenters there, Saxon of Riverstone, saying libertarian legal theory insistence that

00:34:36.960 the amount of government intervention should be kept to a minimum in the primary functions of law

00:34:40.500 should be enforcement of contracts and social order. Yeah, that's a good kind of basic description.

00:34:45.220 There's a lot of disagreement or misunderstanding.

00:34:48.180 I mean, people have different views of what they think libertarianism is.

00:34:50.960 I like the word that was in that definition of minimum.

00:34:54.400 I don't believe we should have no government.

00:34:56.100 I don't believe there should be no order.

00:34:57.620 I don't like having too much entrenched bylaws in a local area.

00:35:00.780 But I also understand if 100 houses are going to live in a district, you've got to have a few rules.

00:35:05.400 Or you can have the guy next door opening a nightclub next to you on one side and a guy opening a tannery on the other side.

00:35:12.700 and between the leather smoke and the partying,

00:35:16.080 you're going to have to move.

00:35:17.240 So we got to kind of like it or not,

00:35:19.320 come up with a few rules.

00:35:20.080 I prefer a world where we speak to our neighbor directly

00:35:22.640 rather than going running to the city

00:35:24.380 if you have a dispute.

00:35:25.320 It's a much better way to do things typically,

00:35:27.700 but we need a degree of laws.

00:35:29.660 I mean, some people say libertarians,

00:35:30.600 so who's going to build the roads?

00:35:31.380 Well, I'm not talking about anarchy.

00:35:32.980 I'm not talking about zero government.

00:35:34.580 I just want as little government as possible.

00:35:37.640 And that'll always be debatable on what the minimum is.

00:35:40.140 Always.

00:35:40.900 It's pushing back and forth.

00:35:41.960 But as long as we've got a good democracy, we can discuss those things.

00:35:45.840 We can change those things.

00:35:46.880 That's part of the worry.

00:35:47.920 That's part of the problem is we can't change it.

00:35:49.560 We don't want to make our system so easy to change that we're constantly in flux.

00:35:52.880 But currently, we've got one that's carved in granite.

00:35:56.180 We can't do anything with it.

00:35:57.380 We can't change the Constitution.

00:35:58.680 We can't even tweak it.

00:36:00.080 So we can't flex to different policies or outlooks.

00:36:03.380 And it leads to just to the disaster we got.

00:36:07.220 Look at Parliament.

00:36:08.000 What a waste of time is going on there.

00:36:09.440 Can we ignore parliament and just go our way provincially? Well, no, unfortunately, because

00:36:14.080 the federal government has so much control over our laws, as Dr. Wagner was saying, whether it's

00:36:19.420 economically with resource development and exports and carbon taxes and things like that,

00:36:25.740 we can't just ignore them and do our own thing because there's a constant battle with them.

00:36:30.500 All right, I'm going to pivot a little. Some folks are watching social media,

00:36:33.320 and those who haven't, or if you're watching The Standard, Jared Jagger, he's been our guy in BC.

00:36:36.940 he's been covering the BC election. He's a young fellow. He's been really good. And then he went

00:36:40.560 out the other night in Vancouver on the ground. And that's the difference. That's why I talk about

00:36:44.540 subscribing to the standard and supporting us. Even if you get upset with me and my chemtrail

00:36:47.880 stuff, don't forget, there's lots of us here and not everybody has to agree on everything. That's

00:36:52.500 what I mean. There's some of that. Let's talk about binary and being non-binary, binary thinking.

00:36:57.620 Either everybody there has to write what I like or I'm not subscribing. Well, then the problem is

00:37:02.220 yours. You know, you can read the dozens and dozens of people who write and put things up on

00:37:07.920 the Western standard and don't click on mine. It's okay. It's easy. You can do that. There's

00:37:12.420 lots of different views. When you draw a line in the sand and say, it's either all that way or I'm

00:37:18.220 out the door. Well, then get the hell out the door and don't let it hit your ass on the way out. I

00:37:21.080 mean, I'm not going to pander to everybody who gets upset because they don't agree with me on

00:37:24.160 everything. Guys, if you agreed with me on everything, you're cult members, you aren't

00:37:27.340 readers. So we're allowed to disagree. So either way, Jared gets on the ground. He went out to the

00:37:33.980 protests in Vancouver in person. And man, the thing that really impressed me when he's posting

00:37:38.680 him, he's actually a really good photographer too. We're talking some high level, excellent

00:37:43.040 images he was sharing on there and video that went viral across the country because unfortunately

00:37:47.980 our legacy media wasn't really there covering it. And what we had was the shield fully fell off on

00:37:55.560 the pro-Hamas, pro-terrorist activists we're seeing on our streets. And, you know, they've

00:38:04.100 been pretending all this time. We're freedom fighters. We're doing this for Palestine. We

00:38:08.780 don't hate the Jews. They didn't even pretend anymore. I mean, when you're out on October 7th, 0.81

00:38:14.140 when you're out on the anniversary of one of the most horrific, disgusting terror attacks

00:38:19.700 in human history, when a music festival was targeted, young women were picked up, 1.00

00:38:24.240 raped, tortured, murdered, hundreds were kidnapped, 1,200 murdered. Whatever side of

00:38:30.660 the issue you're on, unless you're inhuman and those people protesting are, you should be

00:38:35.200 disgusted by that tactic in attacking innocent people in Israel. And October 7th was the

00:38:42.080 anniversary of it. And to go out there waving your little Palestinian flags and your terrorist 0.98

00:38:46.220 flags and your Hezbollah flags. And these are the words, these are the quotes. And that's where I

00:38:50.140 really appreciate Jared got it on video because people just don't believe it. These are the things

00:38:55.780 they were chanting. We are Hamas. We are Hezbollah. Now these are both registered known terrorist

00:39:02.000 entities. It's not opinion whether or not they're terrorists. They are terrorists. Every developed

00:39:05.740 country in the world calls those entities terrorists. And that's what these guys are

00:39:09.900 saying. We are Hamas. We are Hezbollah. Death to Canada. Watch the videos. Watch what Jared put

00:39:15.900 out there. And it's funny, I read a CBC, yes, the state broadcaster. I read a lot. I have to read a

00:39:20.080 lot of that stuff, whether I like it or not, to have a broad point of view when I bring my stuff

00:39:23.620 out to you guys. And the CBC used some of Jared's pictures, actually, in their article, and they

00:39:27.500 credited him with it. And they even said along the line, we haven't independently verified the

00:39:31.280 video taken, but a CBC reporter was in the area who did say that, yes, indeed, they did say we are

00:39:37.920 Habas, we are Hezbollah, death to Canada. So yes, even the CBC kind of had to almost grudgingly

00:39:43.380 admit that that's what these guys were chanting out there.

00:39:49.120 How much more are we going to put up with?

00:39:51.460 They're all masked. They're smashing windows at universities.

00:39:54.780 They're terrorizing Jewish neighborhoods. I mean, again, they kept saying

00:39:58.760 it's Zionists. You know, they love using that term, it's Zionist, Zionist, Zionist. If you're just 0.88

00:40:02.440 substituting a word for Jew.

00:40:06.700 And if it had been anything else, the law would have stepped in by now.

00:40:10.760 they would have said that's enough. If this had been, because these guys all wear masks. Funny,

00:40:15.800 you know who else did? Klan members. Yeah. You know, if you really believe in your cause,

00:40:20.520 why do you have to hide your face? Why are you such a coward? Why you got to always hide behind

00:40:25.680 a mask, sunglasses in the works? Because you know you're wrong. Because you know you're scum.

00:40:30.820 And you are. When you're celebrating the slaughter of girls at a music festival,

00:40:36.780 You're wrong.

00:40:38.140 You know, some people say that not every issue is black and white.

00:40:40.400 Some of them are.

00:40:42.000 And celebrating that is the same as celebrating on September 11th for the blowing up of the World Trade Center.

00:40:49.240 And it's old.

00:40:51.400 And we can't keep letting this slip.

00:40:54.500 We wouldn't put up with a bunch of Klan members out there marching on the streets saying it's time to get rid of the black population in Canada, would we?

00:41:00.840 No, of course not.

00:41:02.400 We would say that.

00:41:03.680 We don't put up with that in a civilized country.

00:41:05.520 That's what I'm talking about, the balance between, yes, and rights, it's not always easy.

00:41:10.440 You know, you want free expression, you want to let people, even if their views are a little offensive, fine.

00:41:15.840 But there's a line that gets crossed.

00:41:17.600 When it comes to incitement of violence, when it comes to actually trying to promote hatred, yes, we draw that line, and we do have charges.

00:41:23.920 And this, when you're saying death to Canada, yes, you've crossed the line.

00:41:28.880 You're inciting hatred.

00:41:30.020 You're asking to kill people.

00:41:32.500 And you know what?

00:41:33.060 Eventually, one of these nuts will. 0.80

00:41:34.920 Maybe a few of these nuts will.

00:41:36.600 The time to intervene is now.

00:41:38.660 The time to intervene was actually months ago.

00:41:41.500 But meanwhile, we've got Jolie and Polia fighting in Parliament over this

00:41:47.060 because Melanie Jolie, for whatever reason, is afraid to condemn these savages.

00:41:52.480 And then the Speaker of the House, who's pretty much owned by the Liberal Party,

00:41:55.920 is embarrassing the office of Speaker,

00:41:58.880 stops Polia from speaking about it because he feels it's offensive.

00:42:01.900 or no, the bottom line was he was owning a liberal minister

00:42:04.680 because Jolly is really not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

00:42:07.840 So let's just stop him from asking her any more questions.

00:42:12.540 And, you know, there was the flag burning that happened.

00:42:15.740 They burned a bunch of Canadian flags at this protest in Vancouver the other day.

00:42:19.940 And, you know, see, there's one of the areas where I miss,

00:42:23.460 I think flag burning is offensive.

00:42:25.020 I think it's ugly to look at.

00:42:26.180 I don't think it should be illegal.

00:42:29.100 Calling for death to Canada is the problem.

00:42:31.900 Saying that we are Hamas, we are Hezbollah, is the problem.

00:42:36.000 That is illegal.

00:42:37.440 That's spreading hate.

00:42:38.500 That's promoting violence.

00:42:40.980 That's where we got to step in and say that's enough because it spreads.

00:42:44.660 So I went in Calgary last weekend at City Hall.

00:42:52.060 The Calgary supporters for Israel or people concerned anyways just had a calm memorial event at City Hall

00:43:00.100 for the victims and people of October 7th.

00:43:02.720 Again, it wasn't a thing to demand

00:43:04.720 that Israel attack or blow anything up. 0.61

00:43:07.180 They just wanted to hold a memorial

00:43:08.440 for the people who are still held hostage

00:43:10.240 and the ones who have already been killed

00:43:12.560 by these terrorists.

00:43:14.200 So what do the pro-terrorist group do?

00:43:16.880 They set up across the street

00:43:18.320 and they gave their kids,

00:43:20.260 and they had a bunch of kids.

00:43:21.060 That's the thing these scumbags 0.99

00:43:22.180 they get sick of too.

00:43:23.460 They put their kids in the front all the time

00:43:25.540 and they gave their kids bullhorns

00:43:27.440 and the kids were screaming in the bullhorns

00:43:29.660 throughout the entire ceremony on the other side

00:43:32.300 where the Jewish community was peacefully trying to hold a vigil.

00:43:36.720 Really?

00:43:37.700 Yes, there's a right and a wrong side.

00:43:39.580 The ones who stick their children out spewing hate,

00:43:42.020 screaming at people who are trying to hold a peaceful vigil,

00:43:44.480 they're on the wrong.

00:43:45.820 You don't have to sit here and parse this

00:43:47.660 and think about it too bloody long.

00:43:49.680 It was disgusting.

00:43:51.000 It was disgusting when this was going on in Montreal and Toronto as well.

00:43:54.800 And we've got to step up.

00:43:56.640 And that's when you do cross a line

00:43:58.720 between, you know, and there's no pacifying these nutcases. There's none. They went and they 1.00

00:44:05.260 attacked the CBC studios in Vancouver the other night. The CBC, that's the most, you know,

00:44:14.000 sympathetic media ear you idiots have, but it's not good enough for them. It's never good enough

00:44:20.480 for them. These are people overwhelmed with hate. These are people overwhelmed with anger. See,

00:44:24.820 with Paradoxy, and I fully agree saying, I think it's awful when people take their kids to any

00:44:28.300 protests or demonstrations. It's bad parenting. Absolutely. Whether even if it was a conservative

00:44:35.320 leaning demonstration or protest, if it seemed at all, it's going to get violent or hateful,

00:44:40.420 you just don't take the kids there. Don't. Don't. And I was watching and I was watching those kids

00:44:45.680 screaming and listening to them screaming. I posted some videos on X. You could hear them

00:44:49.300 on the videos I posted. These are little kids right now that are getting programmed to such

00:44:54.720 anger, such hate. And I said earlier, you know, when we hear later on, when somebody's 18, 20

00:45:01.640 years old, whatever, they go off the rails and they go on a shooting rampage or they bomb something

00:45:05.420 or they blow something up and people say, how did that ever happen? This is how right now. This is

00:45:09.560 how we're seeing it happen. We're seeing the children being programmed and trained into

00:45:13.560 extremism and violence when they're just little. We're talking, I was talking like eight, 10 years

00:45:16.820 olds, these ones that were holding these bullhorns, screaming hate at people just trying to hold a

00:45:21.560 vigil. We've got to stop this. We are better than this. We're supposed to be a civilized country

00:45:27.560 and these people are not acting in a civilized way. So you know what? And that's something that

00:45:31.460 gets to me and there's truth to it and people are getting upset but too bloody bad. When the masks

00:45:36.000 are ripped off of these people standing out there screaming and burning Canadian flags and saying

00:45:39.380 death to Canada, if they aren't citizens, deport them right away. Get the hell out. You want death 1.00

00:45:45.940 to Canada? Get the hell out of here. We don't need you. We don't need you. In fact, we really want you

00:45:51.200 gone. And if they are Canadian citizens, charge them. And then the ones at the university the 0.99

00:45:56.620 other day too, that were smashing all the windows while a bunch of students linked arms to block

00:46:00.120 authorities from stopping the smashing, expel every single one of those clowns. And if they

00:46:06.880 aren't citizens, deport them. We got a lot of people in this world who would love to come to 1.00

00:46:11.680 Canada, live peacefully, raise their families, make a living, contribute, network with neighbors.

00:46:18.760 Millions of people want to do that.

00:46:20.480 And right now we can only fit so many because we've got all these scumbags

00:46:22.840 taking up space and chanting death to Canada at these protests.

00:46:29.520 No, we've got to stand up for ourselves, guys.

00:46:31.260 This is why Canada's weak.

00:46:32.180 If you don't like independence movements,

00:46:33.420 people like me and Mr. Wagner pushing these sorts of things,

00:46:36.680 if you want to instill some pride in Canada

00:46:38.300 so guys like me and Mr. Wagner don't end up spreading the independence sentiment,

00:46:42.600 then bring about some pride in Canada.

00:46:44.020 Part of the pride is having a civilized country

00:46:46.020 that's going to stand up against pro-terrorist types of people, hate spewing people, and say,

00:46:50.940 we do not allow that here. Go somewhere else if you're going to do that. We don't need it.

00:46:54.920 You're out. All right. That's enough ranting out of me. Be sure to tune into the pipeline tonight,

00:47:00.180 guys. We're going to have Jared on, actually. He's going to chat for a little while, as well

00:47:03.240 as Chris Oldcourt. He's covering the election in Saskatchewan. Watch Nigel Hennifer. He actually

00:47:07.820 interviewed the ambassador to Israel the other day, and there's a video of that up. His show

00:47:11.960 was fantastic. It always is. And again, get to the Western Standard, get your news there,

00:47:16.300 subscribe, support us. Thank you very much. Don't let the chemtrails get you in the night.

00:47:20.800 I appreciate you tuning in and I'll see you all next week at this time.

00:47:41.960 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - October 10, 2024

Chemtrails and other nonsense

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