Western Standard - July 25, 2024


China spanks Trudeau’s foreign minister


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Western Standard reporter Jen Hodgson gives her thoughts on Canada's foreign minister Melanie Joline Jolie's trip to China, and why she should have been invited to China in the first place. Plus, a new Democratic candidate for president, Kamala Harris, and more.

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00:00:00.000 good day today is july 24th 2024 i am derek phildebrand publisher of the western standard
00:00:29.440 and you are watching The Pipeline. Thank you for joining us today. I'm joined as usual by
00:00:35.380 Western Standard Senior Alberta Columnist, Corey Morgan. Good afternoon. Nigel is still away on
00:00:42.540 his well-deserved vacation in his place. I've got someone almost as good, Western Standard News
00:00:48.420 editor, Dave Naylor. Come back, Nigel. All is forgiven. I almost said Dave Hannaford.
00:00:58.280 Well, you know, it's modern times. He's confused because I normally sit there. I know, but I snuck
00:01:03.020 in fast. Sneaky. The end seat's the good one. We got a good show today. We're going to start off
00:01:09.420 the top with Canadian Foreign, or I guess they call it Global Affairs now, Canadian Foreign
00:01:15.580 Minister Melanie Jolie going to China. First official trip of a major Canadian government
00:01:21.840 official in seven years. The Canadian press reports she went there and wagged her fingers
00:01:27.960 as no more helping Liberals win elections. But we've got a really unique take on this.
00:01:35.100 Western standards. Jen Hodgson, one of our reporters, actually speaks Chinese. I think
00:01:43.160 Mandarin or Cantonese, probably Mandarin. But she's got the Chinese media's take on it,
00:01:48.860 and it's very different than the Canadian mainstream media's take as given to them by
00:01:52.440 the government. We're going to talk about Weekend at Bernie's. Where the heck has U.S. President
00:01:58.860 Joe Biden gone? I mean, they did eventually send, I think, a post on a picture of him with, like,
00:02:04.520 you know, today's date on a newspaper or something. Proof of life, essentially. They're having to
00:02:11.380 send proof of life photos of Joe Biden. Should have held one up during the debate. I mean,
00:02:17.300 you just don't know. So yeah, we're calling that one Weekend at Biden's. Kamala Harris,
00:02:22.820 though. I mean, the king is dead. Long live the queen. Kamala Harris. We're going to talk about
00:02:29.160 her as the new Democratic candidate. Very funny that the Democratic Party has now as its 0.90
00:02:34.580 presidential candidate, someone for whom there was not a single Democratic vote actually cast
00:02:39.240 and a primary for. I don't believe that's ever happened. So we're talking about Kamala Harris
00:02:43.480 as the new Democratic presumptive nominee, I guess you can call her in a weird way.
00:02:50.280 And, you know, we just cannot stop talking about the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.
00:02:55.140 It's just there's new layers of the onion every day coming back. Anyway, the Secret Services
00:03:01.380 Director, who now I think pretty broadly considered a DEI, Diversity, Equity, Inclusion,
00:03:08.240 hire. Well, turns out, if you're going to have a diversity hire, probably shouldn't put him in
00:03:15.080 charge of something as important as the Secret Service. She has inevitably resigned after a
00:03:20.160 disastrous appearance before, I think, House Oversight Committee in US Congress. Before we 0.96
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00:04:07.060 Amen. Right on.
00:04:08.460 Oh, yeah, we're going to get into it.
00:04:09.300 We're going to begin with China spanking Canada's foreign minister. 0.56
00:04:14.720 Let's bring in Western Standard reporter Jen Hodgson. 0.90
00:04:19.280 She's actually coming to us from the newsroom elsewhere in our building here in Calgary.
00:04:24.320 Jen, you wrote a really great story that's up today.
00:04:31.280 The media, the Canadian media, I doubt any actually went with or to China.
00:04:36.840 Like the budget, to be fair, the budgets in the media are getting pretty small.
00:04:39.900 So largely, the Canadian legacy media has reported more or less what the Canadian government told them happened.
00:04:47.240 Why don't you tell us, give us a summary of what the Canadian government said happened slash legacy media reported happened.
00:04:54.320 And then your work from the article you just put out today on what the Chinese Communist Party's media say.
00:05:02.900 Hey, Derek. Yeah, that's right. So we have two different sides of the same story here.
00:05:08.080 And of course, here in Canada, usually the kind of media that we have access to is what is put out by legacy media.
00:05:15.120 Now, it's true that it doesn't appear that any Canadian journalist went along to China.
00:05:20.820 there would have been a whole process to get approved for that, especially since this meeting,
00:05:25.600 remember, was by the summoning of Beijing. Jolie was specifically requested to go and make this
00:05:32.720 trip. So when she came back, she spoke with the Globe and Mail, and she told the Globe that
00:05:40.420 actually she was very firm with China, her foreign affairs counterpart, speaking about the election
00:05:48.780 interference that we have seen conducted by Chinese agents here in Canada. However, she did
00:05:55.360 concede to the Globe and Mail that no progress was made and they sort of left it at that after a
00:06:02.540 short meeting. Now, by contrast, in Chinese media and now as I was talking to Corey on his show
00:06:10.740 earlier, let's keep in mind too that Chinese media, it's not independent like we have some of
00:06:17.980 our media companies here, not the mainstream media, of course, but the Western Standard is an
00:06:23.140 independent news outlet. That's not a thing in China. It's all state-sponsored. It all is a
00:06:29.560 representative of the CCP, a mouthpiece of the CCP. Otherwise, it wouldn't get published.
00:06:36.780 So what we've seen in actually, it's been brought to my attention, more than one outlet from Chinese
00:06:43.320 media has published along the same lines reporting about how Jolie was actually
00:06:49.640 reprimanded and not for the first time by her Chinese counterpart in the CCP.
00:06:58.040 So she's been reprimanded for not being able to show any kind of political strength and not
00:07:07.080 really understanding the new China, the new Chinese way of doing politics, is what the
00:07:14.040 Foreign Affairs Minister Wong has said. So by that he means that Canada really needs to do a
00:07:20.120 lot of reflection, is what was discussed in this article, in that there's a great misunderstanding
00:07:27.320 about Canada and other Western countries, including the US, including Europe, that is doing this new
00:07:34.200 kind of, quote, dirty diplomacy when China is trying to do things different. Now, of course,
00:07:40.580 keeping in mind that this is from the perspective of Chinese media, but this is how the people in
00:07:46.300 China would get this perspective and would perceive what would transpire during that
00:07:54.540 meeting, of course. Like, we get our news, and in China they get their news. So the Foreign Affairs
00:08:00.820 minister said that it was actually a very brief meeting and Jolie didn't have much to say and it
00:08:07.060 actually sounded like it was um like she was being condescended quite a bit um saying that she needs
00:08:13.940 to go and do all of this reflection well you use the term uh reprimanded uh in your story was that
00:08:19.060 the term used by the chinese that's a direct quote from the chinese yeah you know how to say uh
00:08:24.340 reprimanded or spanked and try and uh reprimanded or spanked i don't know what actually those words
00:08:34.020 are that didn't need to come up too much in my rhetoric in my time there but you can say
00:08:40.260 how it's a very bad perspective i actually only found out that you uh spoke uh mandarin uh i
00:08:46.180 think like last week or a week before or something it was uh it blew my socks off in the newsroom
00:08:51.140 that day. Corey, is it just me or do the liberal, do you think the Chinese just feel that the 0.96
00:08:58.200 liberals are being ungrateful for all the help that they've given them over the last few elections?
00:09:02.860 Is that why the Chinese are so upset that the liberals just aren't grateful for all the help?
00:09:06.300 I don't know. I mean, it's, the Chinese see the liberals as weak though. That's something that's
00:09:12.360 clear. And I mean, well, look at it. They snap their fingers and the foreign minister comes
00:09:16.520 at their beckoning. I mean, it's bizarre. They know that they can interfere with our elections
00:09:22.260 as much as they like, and the Liberals will do everything possible to cover it up on their
00:09:25.520 behalf. And, you know, we saw the leader of China chewing out Trudeau at a summit about a year ago
00:09:33.260 as well. They have no respect for Canada. Jolie is not a strong minister. It might have been a DEI
00:09:40.300 hire. Yeah, there's a lot of speculation as to how she got to her job and, you know, how well she
00:09:47.000 may do it. But either way, it's being suddenly called out there and not really giving the public
00:09:52.260 much information as to why a senior Trudeau minister went to China to have this sudden
00:09:56.340 discussion. And then to have it coming out of them basically saying, yeah, we brought her over
00:10:00.080 to tell the Trudeau government what to do and where to go. It's just more weakness on weakness
00:10:05.120 with this government. Dave, I'm interested in the very different media reporting on this.
00:10:14.400 We can blame the CBC maybe for not having a reporter there, assuming they didn't,
00:10:17.680 I don't believe they did. CBC has essentially an unlimited budget from taxpayers. So they
00:10:24.080 probably should have sent a reporter along. But you know, budget constraints make that extremely
00:10:28.720 difficult proposition for those of us who actually have to run businesses.
00:10:31.440 So, you know, they more or less have to go along, at least for the initial story, with what Melanie Jolie and the Trudeau government says happened.
00:10:42.800 But it would appear, you know, when you read the Globe and Mail, you read Post Media, all these things, you know, CP, they're more or less just reporting what the government says happened.
00:10:53.700 But there didn't seem to be, I don't think anybody actually looked at what the Chinese media said until then it occurred to me.
00:10:59.800 It was like, ah, Jen knows Mandarin.
00:11:03.180 So we looked at it here.
00:11:05.500 I don't know if the Chinese are telling a more truthful story or not, but it's a much more complicated story than the Melanie Jolie and the Canadian press seem to have made it out to be.
00:11:14.520 Oh, absolutely.
00:11:15.320 You know, maybe they just didn't have anybody who could speak Chinese on staff.
00:11:19.080 You know, maybe it's as simple as that.
00:11:20.700 It's because they're not as diverse as the Western standard.
00:11:22.480 And I think Hong Kong used to have a bureau over in that neck of the woods.
00:11:27.040 But yeah, make no mistake, this is a diplomatic spanking of the highest order. 0.64
00:11:32.520 And you know, the way the liberals twist and lie about things blatantly, I'm tending to believe the Chinese. 0.80
00:11:43.020 And I mean, let's face it, Jolie is a lightweight.
00:11:46.340 You know, I couldn't imagine a foreign minister, Pierre Polyev, you know, getting on a plane
00:11:54.940 first minute he's summoned. 0.99
00:11:56.740 Chinese wield a lot of power in Canada because of what they did with the election interference. 0.99
00:12:03.280 And, you know, I don't know if they're correct in talking about Canada's got to be more reflective 0.97
00:12:09.640 around that, but, you know, the Liberals certainly know which side of the bread they're
00:12:15.460 Jen, as usual, though, you know, a lot of the relationship between Canada and the CCP are wrapped up now in foreign interference issues.
00:12:30.380 I mean, to be fair, both the Canadian Communist Party, the Chinese Communist Party and the Liberal Party have actually had the same story on foreign interference from China until it's become beyond deniable.
00:12:47.280 Actually, the liberals still more or less deny it.
00:12:49.880 They say, well, don't trust the experts when the experts disagree with us.
00:12:53.820 But what came out of this on the foreign interference front?
00:12:59.480 There's no word on that. So actually, Jolie, while she said that she firmly brought it up,
00:13:05.680 she said, quote, very firmly broached the issue. There was actually no mention of this in the
00:13:13.280 Chinese media article about this. So, I mean, they're not going to be giving credence to this
00:13:21.720 accusation. I think that there was, there might have been a one line in this article,
00:13:26.380 or perhaps it was another article out of the Chinese press that I was reading,
00:13:30.380 that is just a mere simple denial of it. They don't really give it much discussion or much
00:13:39.580 credit that it's a valid finding from Canadian investigators. So they're a little bit bold
00:13:47.580 about this, right? They're not going to, they have a different kind of set of laws,
00:13:51.660 a different political perspective and it's all about this power for them right and having that
00:13:58.540 kind of authority that reaches out. I mean that's why we see organizations like the United Front
00:14:04.860 which is a Chinese organization that essentially sets up agencies abroad that are working on behalf
00:14:14.780 of the CCP. Is that the one that Stephen Gilbeau is an official member of? Yeah, I believe. Yeah,
00:14:22.940 that's right. I believe he's on the board. Yeah. And we should be very clear. It's not even just
00:14:27.340 a part of the Chinese government. It's a part of the Chinese Communist Party proper. That's right.
00:14:34.380 Yep, that's right. Chinese Communist Party essentially?
00:14:38.780 No, we don't know. It's more an honorary. They're probably looking for a job.
00:14:41.980 Well, yeah. And it's important to remember, too, that as the Communist Party, all entities that are operating in China, whether they're directly under the command of the CCP or not, they are going to always be affiliated.
00:14:57.340 There's always going to be that link. There's no such thing as an independent media or independent business.
00:15:02.900 Well, I'm not sure we can lecture the Chinese on that from Canada anymore, you know, present company excluded. I'm not sure Canada gets the crow about our free press to the Chinese Communist Party anymore. 0.83
00:15:13.540 Jen, thank you very much for joining us and for your great story today. Everyone watching, you should go to westernstandard.news right now. Jen, give us the, what's the headline so they can find it easy?
00:15:25.980 Sure thing. Thank you, Derek. It's Chinese media reports Jolie reprimanded after being
00:15:32.600 summoned for unannounced meeting. Now, before I let you go, I did have a quick look at what
00:15:38.280 is reprimanded, how to say that in Chinese. So it's chung jie. So you could say, 0.90
00:15:43.360 she was reprimanded. Yeah, a pretty good pronunciation.
00:15:49.980 All right. All right. Keep giving us good stories. I'm going to shengjia you.
00:15:55.820 Come on. Two weeks in China only learned ni hao. 1.00
00:16:04.860 All right. Au revoir. Auf Wiedersehen. Okay. Catch you guys later. Thank you very much.
00:16:11.180 All right. Let's talk about weekend at Biden's. I'm sure there's a good meme we can find to put
00:16:17.340 up there. They've been going for years, back when it was still a conspiracy theory and not
00:16:22.940 official policy of the Democratic Party. So we're going to get into Kamala Harris in that,
00:16:29.580 in the next little bit here, but let's talk about the milk carton president. Joe Biden
00:16:38.300 just gone. I think a lot of us predicted he wasn't going to make it through the weekend,
00:16:41.900 Sunday evening or afternoon if the hammer fell. And the way it happened has triggered some
00:16:49.260 conspiracy theories and I'm not meaning to use that as a pejorative term anymore because conspiracy
00:16:55.340 theory, today's conspiracy theories are tomorrow's news, too often at this point. But you know a lot
00:17:01.980 of people analyze his resignation letter as, not as president, but as the democratic presumptive
00:17:09.900 nominee. Wasn't on letterhead, not party letterhead, not presidential letterhead.
00:17:15.980 A lot of people were analyzing the signature. I don't know what to make of that. I'm not in
00:17:20.160 any position to say. But it was very short and terse, not what you'd expect for such a
00:17:25.360 monumental, monumentous, literally earth-shaking announcement of that kind. And then he's just
00:17:35.100 been completely not seen, which has led some people to think Joe Biden's dead.
00:17:39.900 I mean, he's not dead.
00:17:42.040 I didn't think he was dead, but, like, this is July 2024.
00:17:46.980 I didn't put it beyond the pale that he had just died in there, like, pretending he was still going.
00:17:53.920 But, like, Dave, I think it just shows you to, like, the almost Kafkaesque state to which U.S. politics in general and the Democratic Party in particular has come to that, I mean, the guy disappears.
00:18:09.900 for a number of days and it becomes almost a legitimate question is he dead sure and it
00:18:13.900 actually started a couple days earlier in in vegas when he dramatically cut his campaigning short
00:18:20.220 uh looked very sickly walking up the steps of uh air force one looked even sicklier
00:18:26.780 even sicklier uh coming down i had to be helped into the uh the beast uh and there were twitter
00:18:34.620 rumors that day that major streets in Los Angeles or sorry Vegas had been blocked off because
00:18:40.660 President Biden had a medical emergency and they were trying to get him to hospital. Of course
00:18:46.700 didn't didn't go through and he flew back to the beach house and then he disappeared. You know he
00:18:55.240 announced his closest aides didn't know about the resignation until a minute or two beforehand
00:19:03.000 and then then things took a surreal turn uh i got an email from a buddy who said hey is biden dead
00:19:10.340 what what do you mean well there's some weird stuff going on in washington you better check
00:19:16.080 it out and i'm thinking well my saturday was ruined when he resigned is he gonna die on the
00:19:21.420 next day and completely ruin my weekend so i check it out and yeah it's okay i think we think
00:19:27.800 Biden has died. We think Biden has died all over. And, you know, obviously, I'm not going to publish
00:19:34.120 that, so I didn't. No. I'd have had some words if you didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sure you would
00:19:39.800 have, whatever it was in Chinese, you would have done that to me. Shenzhen, was that it? Yeah, 0.84
00:19:45.060 severely Shenzhen. Sounds less bad than spanking. Yeah. So, yeah, and it turned out to be just
00:19:52.520 wild internet conspiracies. And, you know, on Monday or Tuesday, he staggered back onto the
00:20:01.540 plane and staggered back to the White House. And he's supposed to be addressing the nation
00:20:06.400 tonight, Wednesday night, six o'clock Mountain Standard Time. Our Michael Thomas is going to
00:20:14.280 be monitoring, and I'll have the latest on that later on tonight. Yeah. Corey, obviously,
00:20:20.160 I shouldn't even say obviously, apparently he's not dead.
00:20:24.920 I didn't think he was dead, but, like, I thought, like, eh, could be true.
00:20:30.220 I mean, Alex Jones has been right a few times this month.
00:20:33.760 Yeah, but he's wrong a few hundred.
00:20:35.020 Yeah, but, like, every once in a while he gets it right.
00:20:38.820 It's not too often.
00:20:39.340 When he gets it right, he gets it right.
00:20:42.060 I was like, eh, you know, yeah, maybe.
00:20:46.680 But, you know, they said he had COVID.
00:20:48.200 I mean, I don't know anyone who gets COVID except for the biggest COVID fanatics now.
00:20:54.500 And, you know, they said, you know, when he had his disastrous debate, it was, oh, he had a cold.
00:21:03.760 And he was jet lagged from his trip that ended six days earlier.
00:21:09.260 You know, so I'm a bit skeptical of the health excuses that his staff put out for things.
00:21:17.300 maybe he had COVID or whatnot, but I think what's been exposed here is, and it's very obvious for
00:21:28.160 everyone to see, is he is no longer the Democratic nominee because he's unfit to lead. He's no longer,
00:21:35.740 but it's that he is no longer the Democratic nominee because the Democrats don't think he can
00:21:40.040 win. Not because they don't think he could govern, but they know he can't govern, yet he's still the
00:21:45.540 president of the United States until January, mid-January of next year, sitting around with
00:21:51.140 the nuclear codes in the meantime. And, you know, the guy disappears for a few days and becomes a
00:21:57.160 legitimate question. Is the guy dead? Do you think he actually makes it to the end of his term?
00:22:03.900 It's not looking good. Before the 25th Amendment gets invoked? I never figured he was dead, but
00:22:08.580 you know, you got to remember, this is an unprecedented, like Franklin Roosevelt. They
00:22:12.360 were very careful to make sure most people didn't even realize he was crippled and he needed a
00:22:15.960 wheelchair and he needed help to get to the stage because there wasn't thousands of cameras
00:22:18.940 there were cameras nobody had shown from the face up and so on it's something even if they
00:22:24.280 thought okay he can't make it four years so we're gonna get him out get Kamala in if he's
00:22:30.100 assuming he acquiesces to it you would still think you can get a video clip just showing his face
00:22:35.300 even if he's actually sick from COVID you know you can speak to it endorse her do what you're
00:22:40.520 going to do. But I think, this is my guess, he's in serious, serious cognitive decline. And that's
00:22:46.020 something you can't make up for. I mean, you know, you can be the president without working legs. You
00:22:51.300 can't be the president without a working brain, or at least not for too long. That works in Canada 0.99
00:22:54.540 for a prime minister. But in the States, he's too far along. And the debate really showed it. I
00:23:00.420 suspect something really has onset seriously with him. He's having difficulty communicating, perhaps.
00:23:06.960 And we'll get some clarity tonight, you know, because the question now is kind of like you're saying,
00:23:12.380 we know he's not going to be running for president, but can he make it until January?
00:23:17.440 Yeah, we've got all these crackheads around our building and they're sort of shuffling down the street, head down.
00:23:23.880 Reminds me of Biden. You know, he's a walking zombie.
00:23:28.240 He should be. It's scary.
00:23:30.120 He should be convalescing somewhere.
00:23:31.480 Yeah, and I think Corey's hit the nail on the head is his dementia has accelerated rapidly over the last months.
00:23:37.960 To be fair, they have still not admitted he has dementia.
00:23:40.260 No, but I mean, the world can see.
00:23:42.740 And it's not uncommon for it to accelerate at some point.
00:23:45.500 So, yeah, you know, you've got to be concerned.
00:23:47.720 Well, this raises, you know, there was a lot of theories about why that presidential debate was held so early before both candidates were even officially nominated.
00:23:57.600 One obviously is not even going to end up being officially nominated.
00:24:00.600 is a dud debate. You know, my thinking was that this was Democratic insiders wanted to expose him
00:24:07.520 to the public to see him bumble and fall down so they could replace him. I think that's still a
00:24:12.960 valid theory about why they did such a hugely early debate, like months and months earlier than
00:24:17.560 any previous debate ever. The other theory I've seen, and I think holds water, and they are
00:24:24.700 mutually contradictory, but this one also holds water, is that the Democratic insiders who pushed
00:24:30.360 for this early debate, knew he was in such a steep cognitive decline that his dementia had accelerated to such an extent that they want to get a debate out of the way early because by October and November, he could be just totally gone.
00:24:46.580 I don't know.
00:24:49.560 I'm more of the first thought.
00:24:51.160 I think the operators realized this man isn't going to make it.
00:24:53.720 But, I mean, if we remove him from the position without the public realizing just how bad it is, it's going to look like a coup.
00:25:01.020 It's going to look like the knives are to a degree, but at least people can look and realize, okay, I mean, if I'm a Democratic Party member or operator, I realize this man just should not be in that role.
00:25:09.880 He's not going to make it four years.
00:25:11.360 But let's put it on public display just to say, look, you see, you know, I'm sympathetic.
00:25:14.920 They can see how bad it is, how far along it is, and this is what we have to do.
00:25:18.500 If he comes out tonight, stumbles, bumbles, mumbles, like he did in the debate, then, you know, I think the panic button gets pressed and maybe they start the 25th.
00:25:29.800 Now, he's going to be reading from a teleprompter.
00:25:32.640 Now, he even has difficulty with that, but reading from a teleprompter is a lot easier than sharing a stage with a man like Donald Trump, who's really good at getting in your head and you have to think on your feet.
00:25:44.300 You know, Joe Biden ends up, you know, praising himself for destroying Medicaid, defeating Medicare like it was ISIS.
00:25:51.300 Trump had the line of the night where he said, I don't think I didn't understand what Biden said.
00:25:55.300 And I don't think he understands either. Yeah, like that clearly with that line.
00:25:59.300 That was the nail. And I guess before I move on, I was to check debates in general.
00:26:05.300 Generally, you know, in Canada, the big debate moment was 1984.
00:26:10.300 Brian Mulroney, John Turner, you had a choice. There's been other debate moments since.
00:26:16.280 Kennedy Nixon. Reagan did some good. Kennedy Nixon was the first televised leaders debate,
00:26:21.540 presidential debate ever. And Reagan was good at them. Yeah. And especially in Reagan's second
00:26:27.980 one with Walter Mondale, very similar topic where they're questioning, you know, are you told to do
00:26:33.040 this? He said, well, I would, you know, to make age an issue is reprehensible. I would never use
00:26:38.100 my opponents using him experience against them, brought the house down. He was already going to
00:26:42.760 win the election. But then he went on to win a record, a near record landslide. But without a
00:26:49.920 doubt, Trump Biden goes down in world history as the most consequential debate ever held. And I
00:26:56.500 can't imagine there's ever going to be anything that can beat it. It's unbeatable. It wasn't that
00:27:04.180 Trump killed him. This is just Biden walked out with his pants around his ankles, essentially.
00:27:09.460 You know, it changed the whole thing. I mean, it removed him as a candidate for president.
00:27:13.680 You don't get any more consequential than that. That's it. It changed the world.
00:27:18.240 OK, so we'll keep the discussion moving along to Kamala. Now, the Americans have a different
00:27:26.900 way of selecting their candidates than ours in that it's democratic. You know, in Canada,
00:27:32.480 political parties are all private corporations. Most people don't know that. They're private
00:27:37.240 corporations and really only their fundraising is regulated by law. Nothing else essentially is.
00:27:42.840 Their nominations are just set internally and they're notoriously open to corruption and
00:27:48.720 manipulation. That's how the Chinese Communist Party so thoroughly infiltrated the Liberal Party 0.98
00:27:53.260 because they're just private clubs and they can do whatever they want. The United States is 0.94
00:27:58.240 different. They're essentially pre-elections, these primaries, and they matter. They matter a lot.
00:28:05.080 And, you know, when you have a sitting president running, the exception of Lyndon Johnson,
00:28:11.680 they're almost never defeated. And actually, he wasn't even technically defeated. He just knew he
00:28:15.540 was going to have a hard time, so he didn't go at it. But the primaries are done. Registered
00:28:20.860 Democrats in America are done voting for their candidate. But not a single one of them, not a single vote has been cast to make the person candidate, the candidate who is now the candidate. And I mean, to call yourself the Democratic Party, and you have now the most undemocratic nomination of a candidate for the leadership of a party and country that has ever taken place.
00:28:50.860 So it's going to be tough, Dave. How well do you think the Kamala Harris and the Democratic establishment are doing at getting the American public broadly and Democrats more specifically to accept as the Democratic nominee for president someone who has 0.0 Democratic votes cast for them?
00:29:13.560 Well, I will remind you that she actually did run in primaries when she was running to be the Democratic nominee. 0.77
00:29:21.020 For 2020, yeah. 0.99
00:29:21.920 And she left the race because she'd only garnered 1% support.
00:29:27.080 1%.
00:29:27.680 Yeah.
00:29:29.840 So, yes, her record is not great.
00:29:31.760 But right now, the Democratic Party is gleeful.
00:29:34.500 They're smiling.
00:29:35.260 They're jumping around.
00:29:36.800 Everybody's jumping on board.
00:29:38.580 Stars are back in line.
00:29:40.780 And they all think it's in the bag now.
00:29:42.300 I just don't get it.
00:29:43.380 They think Kamala will soon be the first black female U.S. president. 0.92
00:29:49.100 Methinks they may be counting their chickens before they're hatched. 0.95
00:29:54.900 She's easy pickings for Trump.
00:29:57.260 Everybody seems to think that she's going to stand up and give Trump what for.
00:30:01.020 But have you seen all the videos that have been coming out for years of her alphabet wording?
00:30:05.940 She's second only to Trudeau for words.
00:30:07.660 She's second only to Trudeau.
00:30:09.440 She introduces herself with pronouns, for God's sakes.
00:30:12.660 And she's all very proud of her record in California.
00:30:16.700 Have you seen California?
00:30:18.780 San Francisco is an absolute disaster.
00:30:22.520 Thousands of people on the street.
00:30:24.660 You got people like Elon Musk fleeing California, taking Twitter and SpaceX.
00:30:30.720 Like Sylvester Stallone has left California for Florida.
00:30:34.640 California is not the it state anymore.
00:30:37.020 And she had a responsibility for starting down that path. 1.00
00:30:43.720 And I think Trump is actually going to make mincemeat out of her.
00:30:48.160 Corey, I've been a little bit surprised at how unified, though, the Democratic Party has been behind her,
00:30:54.980 considering she has no Democratic legitimacy whatsoever as the Democratic nominee.
00:31:02.660 Yeah, I mean, she was the running mate of Biden.
00:31:04.640 She's the vice president.
00:31:05.320 And so obviously she would be someone to take into consideration.
00:31:09.680 But when talks started of replacing Biden at the top of the ticket, people were like, Democrats were generally not that enthused about Kamala Harris.
00:31:18.780 But then as this became, as the conspiracy theory just became the news, they started looking at the rules.
00:31:26.900 And Biden had raised a quarter of a billion dollars for the presidential war chest.
00:31:32.720 And the only other person who could take that war chest over was Kamala Harris.
00:31:35.780 So I think a lot of this was money.
00:31:38.080 But, I mean, there's other people with ambition sitting in the wings of the Democratic Party.
00:31:44.080 Are you surprised by how they do seem unified, at least for the moment, in getting behind Kamala?
00:31:50.640 Are you surprised by it?
00:31:51.740 I'm not surprised by the tactic.
00:31:53.620 They had two choices, and this has been happening fast.
00:31:56.020 I'm not of the conspiracy that they planned or wanted this whole disaster to unfold for them.
00:31:59.900 I think most of them are at a point of wishing that Biden's brain hadn't turned to pudding and they were moving ahead with the election as they expected and just carry on from there.
00:32:08.500 This has suddenly come upon them.
00:32:09.820 They had two choices.
00:32:10.500 They can go to an open nomination at the Democratic Convention and lose another month of campaigning while Democrats are fighting with each other rather than fighting against Trump.
00:32:19.640 Or they can rally around Kamala.
00:32:23.060 And it was probably a tough choice to make because she's the weaker candidate.
00:32:26.880 But at least you'll get that money.
00:32:28.760 You'll get right into campaign mode and get back on track.
00:32:31.920 Because an American presidential campaign is a six-month, eight-month affair.
00:32:34.880 And we're well into it.
00:32:36.200 Just change gears right now.
00:32:37.560 Normally, you have to run primaries.
00:32:40.480 So it's more than a year.
00:32:41.300 So once you've stuffed her into place, they've got to say, this is what we wanted.
00:32:45.320 Rah, rah, rah.
00:32:45.840 Even if I think in the back of their mind, like, oh, God, I'm polishing a turd.
00:32:49.200 But you've got to.
00:32:50.720 You've got to at least make it look like it.
00:32:52.060 And that's the problem with the election being in November.
00:32:55.460 However, there's not enough time for somebody to say, okay, maybe I'd like to take a run at this.
00:33:00.860 If you're going to be considering a run at one of the main party heads, you've got to start more than a year in advance.
00:33:06.780 Well, you normally have to win a primary.
00:33:08.380 Yeah, even before the primary starts.
00:33:10.420 You have to be campaigning before the primary starts.
00:33:13.620 You have to spend millions before the primary starts.
00:33:16.220 And there's just not enough time for anybody else to do that if they were going to hold a leadership campaign.
00:33:22.340 And I think probably the other reason is kind of like what liberals are doing here in Canada.
00:33:27.500 They don't want to take a run at the leadership only to get smoked in the next election and then be, you know, be a nobody.
00:33:35.620 That's actually a really good point.
00:33:37.460 It'll segue into where I want to go next is, you know, those with ambition to be the Democratic nominee, you know, especially post Trump attempted assassination.
00:33:47.780 they're probably looking around saying, wow, do I want to be, no one attended, do I want to jump
00:33:54.100 in front of the bullet on this one? Like, it's... Well, and of all things I saw on X the other day
00:33:59.360 was Kim Campbell tweeting out that this was brilliant tactics on the part of the Democrat
00:34:03.920 party. The irony was just so beautiful. You know, I had to hit her with that. I hadn't seen that.
00:34:10.500 Yeah, yeah, have a look. Like, she was trying to apply this was all tactical and Biden just built
00:34:15.480 it up so he could hand it off to her and that it was brilliant. Okay, you're the woman who destroyed
00:34:20.820 the biggest majority in Canadian history. Brian Mulroney's got to wear a lot of that. He certainly 0.92
00:34:28.760 does. But she jumped in front of the bullet to take it. And to hear her say that this is brilliant, 0.98
00:34:35.300 I think see that as a kiss of death. Okay, I hadn't seen that, Corey. When we're done here,
00:34:40.820 when we're back in the newsroom, you've got to show me that. She probably hasn't tweeted since.
00:34:44.200 Oh, my God. That is she should be one of the first purifiers. I think. Yeah. Oh, God. Wow. Wow. That is for those of you who know your history of Canadian politics. That is the kiss of death. If you've ever seen it. Let's talk about her chances. You know, Dave, you've already said you think Trump's going to make mincemeat out of her early polls, though. 0.92
00:35:07.180 I think there was an Ibsos poll showing her actually with a slight lead over Trump.
00:35:10.340 I mean, people are always going to bump when they come in.
00:35:13.080 So I'm not surprised by that.
00:35:17.000 You know, there's just mountains of stuff of her sounding moronic.
00:35:22.840 What is it? Unbound, unburdened, just very airy fairy, like not saying anything and saying it over and over and over.
00:35:33.560 But you can tell she thinks she's being really deep and philosophical.
00:35:36.160 You can see in her eyes that she thinks she's like Aristotle about this stuff.
00:35:40.420 Now, this is not to say Trump is, you know, a very stoic, philosophical figure himself.
00:35:46.900 But you understand what he's saying.
00:35:48.620 The only difference is with Trump.
00:35:49.700 You can't understand if he's joking or not.
00:35:51.980 Or telling the truth.
00:35:53.480 Yeah, like, you can't tell when he's pulling your leg, lying, or being straight.
00:35:57.520 I mean, it could be any of those three.
00:36:00.900 But, I mean, Corey, I'll get your sense on Kamala Harris's chances. 0.99
00:36:06.160 She's weak. I don't think they're good, but American politics are tough. I mean, as much as you think that there's a difference, these elections always come down to just a couple percent. Like, it doesn't matter. There's not a big undecided sector in the state. 0.68
00:36:19.920 It's not a couple percent. It's a couple percent in a few select swing states.
00:36:23.600 Yeah, the Democrat self-identified and registered Democrats and self-identified registered Republicans, they don't swing a heck of a lot at all.
00:36:32.060 So whether or not she's going to be able to pull those few, I wouldn't rule her out.
00:36:37.080 And I wouldn't. I'm taking the cowardly approach.
00:36:39.120 I'm just saying it's going to be tight.
00:36:40.540 I think it's not, as you said, it's natural for the bump right after the announcement, right?
00:36:45.240 Because, yeah, Harris, I get excited.
00:36:48.260 But the Republican machine has yet to begin the demolishing.
00:36:52.540 demolishing. But Trump was saying he should get a refund from Biden for all the work he did.
00:36:56.440 Yeah, exactly. So, and I think it was brilliant by Trump to bring in J.D. Vance. That's probably
00:37:04.260 going to seal Ohio, a very, very key state in the election. So, and, you know, we haven't even
00:37:12.520 talked about it yet. Who would Kamala pick as a vice president running me? Well, all I know is
00:37:18.000 it's going to be a white man. 0.97
00:37:19.420 I would think so. 0.90
00:37:20.200 I was hoping for AOC just for comic. 1.00
00:37:24.320 It might be a gay white man, but... 1.00
00:37:27.200 Even Buttigieg. 0.98
00:37:28.200 Yeah.
00:37:28.800 And by the standards of the modern Democratic Party,
00:37:31.840 Buttigieg is among the least insane.
00:37:34.040 He's a smart guy.
00:37:35.420 He's actually not a bad pick.
00:37:37.480 He's smarter than her. 1.00
00:37:38.240 Kamala and her politics through platitudes. 1.00
00:37:40.480 Yeah.
00:37:41.380 So, yeah, I think it'll be an easy Trump victory
00:37:45.440 once their machine gets gone.
00:37:48.000 You still think it's an easy Trump victory? Yeah. I'm having a hard time saying now I still think
00:37:52.560 Trump wins. I think it's it's less in the bag, though, with Biden, because just putting the guy
00:37:59.200 was just putting those swing states and like Dave said to advance was a smart choice because
00:38:03.840 you look at where these were turning. And it wasn't just Ohio. They're very similar out there
00:38:07.280 when you're looking at Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Michigan, even like that's Rust Belt area.
00:38:12.320 Well, West Virginia has become a deep red. It's gone from the bluest state in America
00:38:16.720 to the reddest state over the last few decades.
00:38:19.860 With the coal attacks going on.
00:38:21.420 But Virginia itself has gone from a red state to a blue state
00:38:25.140 as bureaucrats from Washington take up a bigger proportion of the population. 0.96
00:38:29.000 The working class block.
00:38:30.100 But Virginia has been in play, which is wild. 1.00
00:38:34.580 Virginia itself is, it's funny that we consider Virginia such a blue state,
00:38:37.400 but Virginia is a blue state now.
00:38:39.160 And it could potentially swing because, I mean, you know,
00:38:41.920 California is not going anywhere.
00:38:43.820 You know, Texas isn't going anywhere.
00:38:45.180 They're congressional races either.
00:38:47.520 They go down a rabbit hole, but presidentially, no.
00:38:51.100 And I just want to point out that in the recent NDP leadership campaign in Alberta,
00:38:56.360 I did have the closest pick.
00:38:59.760 You know, I'm just saying.
00:39:00.900 And even then, it wasn't close.
00:39:03.200 It was the closest.
00:39:05.220 But it was not close.
00:39:06.820 We were all totally off.
00:39:09.700 We were all totally off.
00:39:10.520 I was practically a DEI hire.
00:39:15.180 Speaking of DEI hires, let's move from president to head of the Secret Service.
00:39:25.020 So her name, Cheadle. 0.99
00:39:30.460 She, I mean, she was a DEI hire slash favoritism.
00:39:38.000 Jill Biden, you know, First Lady, apparently friends, they've got a good relationship. 1.00
00:39:43.060 and Jill Biden is the one who wanted her installed as the head of the Secret Service. 0.89
00:39:46.700 Nothing to do with qualifications, just she was a friend and, you know, thought it'd be good to have a woman do this. 0.97
00:39:56.000 I mean, no problem having a woman do it, as long as they can do the job. 1.00
00:39:59.700 Turns out she can't. 1.00
00:40:02.180 And that is, I don't know, I have to put that in all caps and underline that and put it in italics and bold.
00:40:08.000 she was
00:40:10.360 I think she was toast
00:40:13.160 within an hour of the Trump
00:40:15.020 assassination of Trump
00:40:17.040 but as more and more
00:40:19.180 came out it just became clear her position was
00:40:21.100 completely untenable I think her goose was 0.83
00:40:23.040 already cooked before she sat down in front of
00:40:25.380 the House
00:40:27.020 Oversight Committee, the U.S. Congress
00:40:28.820 but man I did not expect
00:40:31.120 it to go as bad as it
00:40:33.180 did
00:40:33.680 of course the Republicans he expected to throw
00:40:36.980 heat at her. The Democrats started 0.82
00:40:39.020 off a bit softer, because
00:40:40.940 they're like, oh, well, this could make us
00:40:43.020 look bad. But she couldn't even take
00:40:45.060 their softball questions, Dave.
00:40:46.880 She couldn't answer
00:40:48.960 really simple questions
00:40:51.000 like, how many shell casings from the assassins
00:40:53.260 rifle were found?
00:40:55.540 Like, I mean,
00:40:56.920 I mean, they would have known that
00:40:58.880 within minutes. Yeah.
00:41:00.960 I mean, I think her goose was already cooked before 0.76
00:41:02.980 she got there. But, you know, maybe set up for us
00:41:05.020 how spectacular a meltdown this was.
00:41:07.620 Well, quoting Donald Trump, we've never seen anything like it.
00:41:13.360 You know, the word that came to my mind, I used in the headline, was withering.
00:41:18.460 You know, getting it from all sides.
00:41:21.540 The same response, well, I can't tell you, you've got to go to the FBI, I can't tell you,
00:41:26.180 I've got to go to the FBI.
00:41:28.120 And I think she thought she could hang on until that committee hearing.
00:41:33.040 again with just an atrocious performance and you know talking about the DEI hire when President
00:41:40.820 Biden statement reacting to her resignation slash firing said Jill and I not just him
00:41:51.560 Jill and I yeah like who does that so yeah I mean Jill's the one who hired her yeah of course
00:41:57.180 And, you know, her and Jill were good friends, and she was on her protective service for a while.
00:42:04.440 That's how the relationship started.
00:42:06.220 But, yeah, you know, it doesn't look good for DEI.
00:42:11.820 Corey, the assassin's bullet didn't kill Trump.
00:42:17.440 But, I mean, it's questionable if it politically killed Biden.
00:42:20.660 I think he was already on – I've got to really watch my metaphors I'm using here.
00:42:25.680 but he was already on political death watch. He was on life support. I think the plug had already
00:42:30.540 been quietly pulled, but it finished him off, essentially. But I think it ended the career
00:42:38.240 here of Cheadle, the Secret Service boss, but maybe more broadly. I mean, the pendulum is
00:42:47.600 already swinging against wokeism, however we define that. It's swinging hard against. DEI
00:42:52.900 is being exposed for the fraud that it is,
00:42:55.440 but I feel like this was the piece de resistance.
00:42:58.840 This is killing DEI as a major phenomenon
00:43:04.000 in the corporate government world right here
00:43:06.480 because we see what happens in the real world
00:43:09.200 in a very important job,
00:43:13.580 what happens when you do a diversity hire. 0.99
00:43:15.980 Some jobs you can't fake it.
00:43:17.680 You can fake it a little while,
00:43:18.860 but it's just like the meme says,
00:43:21.660 you had one job. And that's what that job is, is to protect high profile, you know, officials,
00:43:27.900 diplomats, presidents, vice presidents. That's your job. That's it. Nothing else.
00:43:33.360 Although technically, they're also responsible for fighting counterfeit currency, which is a
00:43:38.520 really weird thing. You know what I'm saying? And they blew it catastrophically. I mean,
00:43:45.840 this wasn't something that, you know, you can look at and wow, it was a deep plot with a guy
00:43:50.700 hidden inside a tree trunk who managed to shoot me no there's all sorts of flaws this guy was on 1.00
00:43:56.780 the roof there were communication problems you had a bunch of midgets standing around a tall
00:44:00.220 presidential candidate as human shields you screwed up every level and on top of it all i mean the 0.64
00:44:06.220 only thing worse that could have happened is that the bullet could have been three inches to the
00:44:09.260 right and killed trump but it still killed an innocent person in the background on top of that
00:44:14.220 there was no salvaging that career. And just even if she, even if it was a competent head of the
00:44:21.980 SS, they would have been done. And in her case, when she couldn't even express herself,
00:44:27.180 she, it was her version of the debate for Biden. That's where everybody got to see into her head
00:44:31.260 and realize there's not a hell of a lot inside of it. Yeah, I think we talked about it last week,
00:44:35.280 Derek, the difference, you know, what a difference couple of days make the hulking
00:44:39.940 Secret Service agents that surrounded Trump when he walked into that convention.
00:44:45.020 You know, not all the Secret Service guys are bad.
00:44:47.340 There was just a couple of weeks ago a guard who was protecting one of the Supreme Court justices
00:44:53.060 shot a carjacker who was trying to carjack her.
00:44:57.540 So, you know, some of them are able to...
00:44:59.980 That's a bad car to try and jam.
00:45:02.060 Sorry about that.
00:45:03.300 Bad day.
00:45:04.140 They're taking on a horrific job.
00:45:06.060 I mean, whether they were the little women around Trump or any other one, I mean, you're asking a lot of somebody.
00:45:12.440 You're literally being asked to put yourself between a bullet.
00:45:15.000 I mean, jump in front of bullets.
00:45:17.680 Yeah, but you've got to be capable of jumping in front of the bullet.
00:45:20.700 You've got to be big enough to cover your target, too.
00:45:22.620 The FBI director today was testifying, and he actually gave some interesting facts.
00:45:26.940 one that I thought was the most interesting was the last thing that the gunman searched for
00:45:32.860 was the distance between Lee Harvey Oswald and President Kennedy.
00:45:38.200 He wanted to know the exact distance.
00:45:40.220 How long was it? Do you know?
00:45:40.560 I don't know.
00:45:42.200 Your story would be a lot cooler if you did.
00:45:44.180 Yeah, it was a couple blocks.
00:45:46.880 And the guy was flying a drone two hours before the event.
00:45:51.240 If I took a drone right down to the Calgary International Airport, I will get arrested.
00:45:57.240 Like, there's really easy technology to figure this out.
00:45:59.240 Oh, yeah, the guy with the Stampede fireworks got caught flying a drone around.
00:46:03.240 Yeah, the Stampede is not very high security.
00:46:05.240 Talk to the Canadian soccer coaches.
00:46:09.240 That is a whole other one that we don't have time to get into, unfortunately, today, gentlemen.
00:46:15.240 Gentlemen, well, thank you very much.
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