Western Standard - Citizens need the ability to fire politicians between elections

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00:02:01.000 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show. The sun's shining. It's nice outside. Made

00:02:06.020 it harder to pop into the studio almost. But hey, we got a lot to cover and a lot to rant

00:02:11.720 and rave and talk and go on about. This is a live show for most of you. Anyways, if you're

00:02:18.160 watching there, use that comment scroll. I like those conversations. Good to see you

00:02:21.180 there, Jenny. It's been a while. And James and Jordan, yes, send questions my way, comments.

00:02:27.280 I don't necessarily read them all out, but I do read them all and it helps keep things rolling.

00:02:32.660 Let me know you're out there.

00:02:34.520 And yes, and I'm my guest's way.

00:02:36.500 We got a lot to cover in the 15 minutes that I'll have her. 0.64

00:02:39.860 And it's a good one today.

00:02:40.800 We've got the author of Fistman's Fraud and it's Dr. Regina Wattil.

00:02:46.200 And she's covered, well, we've got a lot of hindsight finally starting to catch up on the whole COVID thing.

00:02:53.100 and a lot of people backtracking and we can't let them scurry away and get away with a lot

00:02:57.840 of the stuff they fed us over that period. I figured this book came out last fall,

00:03:02.880 but it's very timely to discuss it again and bring it up there because we've got a lot of

00:03:07.760 things to cover as well. Of course, there'll be the news check-in and some thoughts of my own on

00:03:14.040 other things. So some news that was big for those in Calgary. I'm going to start with that.

00:03:18.920 You know, we've been watching this.

00:03:20.400 We've had weeks, a record breaker, public hearings.

00:03:23.240 Nearly 1,000 people came out to Calgary City Hall in person

00:03:26.960 to express their feelings on the blanket rezoning plan.

00:03:30.540 Didn't matter.

00:03:31.660 Calgary's mayor and city council voted yesterday 9 to 6

00:03:34.120 to impose the blanket rezoning on the city.

00:03:37.020 Even though 70% of those who presented in person opposed the rezoning,

00:03:41.500 90% of the thousands of submissions that were put in from citizens

00:03:45.460 opposed the rezoning. And the council, they never campaigned on rezoning. It didn't matter.

00:03:51.620 They don't care what citizens think. And the snide attitudes of some of those council members made

00:03:56.300 it pretty clear. Karah, if you're a Calgarian, you know who I'm talking about. He's a special

00:04:00.300 piece of work. But they got a few other clowns on there worthy of your derision as well. 0.99

00:04:04.340 In a sense, what Mayor Gondek and her supporters on city council said to Calgarians as well, 0.85

00:04:08.680 what are you going to do about it? It's a valid question. What can citizens do about it?

00:04:14.080 I mean, clearly, the mayor and council don't care what people think between elections, and they have no fear, you know, of being able to pursue their own personal agendas, even if they don't match the wishes of the citizens who put them there in the first place.

00:04:26.280 That's why I support having citizens initiated recall and referendum legislation.

00:04:31.340 Citizens should have their means to at least hold elected officials accountable between elections.

00:04:37.620 I mean, there's a case to be made against having such election legislation.

00:04:40.840 You know, they say we can remove elected officials every few years in a general election and we should just live with our choice for the duration of their term, come hell or hide water.

00:04:48.680 It's fair enough and debatable, I guess.

00:04:50.900 What isn't debatable, though, is that Alberta's current legislation for recall and citizens-initiated referendum is utterly worthless.

00:04:57.500 It was purposely craft by the Kenney government to be unworkable.

00:05:00.660 Kenney needed to fulfill a campaign promise, but he didn't really want to arm citizens with the power to remove elected officials.

00:05:06.240 So when they passed the Recall Act of 2022, his government ensured the bars set to invoke a recall were set impossibly high.

00:05:15.200 So there was a recent effort to recall Calgary Mayor Jody Gondek, and it demonstrated how useless the legislation is.

00:05:21.000 I mean, polls have indicated Gondek is the least popular mayor in Calgary's history.

00:05:26.260 Despite that, though, a recall effort initiated by Calgary and Landon Johnston barely managed to get over 10% of the required citizens to start the recall process going.

00:05:36.240 And there was hundreds of volunteers working around the city to do it.

00:05:39.740 On top of that, even if Johnston's petition had somehow reached the ridiculously high 514,000 signatures required,

00:05:47.380 which is more than people voted in the entire election, by the way,

00:05:50.440 a technicality found by City of Calgary bureaucrats rendered the signatures of the petition to be apparently 100% invalid.

00:05:57.380 The language of the act is confusing and offers all sorts of hurdles on top of simply getting the signature.

00:06:02.920 So apparently there wasn't a little notice that was attached to the sheets of the petition.

00:06:07.220 So those 69,000 signatures were 100% invalid, according to city bureaucrats.

00:06:12.120 What a joke.

00:06:13.760 So, you know, even if he'd lowered it, I don't think they'd gotten enough to effectively recall somebody.

00:06:20.180 It should be a last resort, but we've got to have that resort in our tool belt to hold these politicians accountable. 0.98

00:06:26.800 Many other democratic jurisdictions have effective recall legislation.

00:06:30.400 We don't need to reinvent the wheel to find a bar that's acceptable.

00:06:34.100 Alberta's referendum legislation is just as useless as the recall rules, by the way.

00:06:37.600 The bar has been set ridiculously high.

00:06:39.980 Nobody's going to manage to invoke one.

00:06:41.420 And it's not binding on the government, even if a referendum was brought about by a citizen.

00:06:46.760 So this mess now lands on Premier Daniel Smith's lap to either fix it or ignore it.

00:06:51.240 Now, Smith appears to be on a mission to make municipal councils accountable.

00:06:54.800 And that's great.

00:06:55.340 The problem is that Premier Smith wants them to be accountable to her government

00:06:58.400 rather than directly to citizens.

00:07:01.200 I mean, do we really need to make it easier

00:07:02.500 for the provincial government to fire municipal officials

00:07:05.040 or shoot down municipal bylaws?

00:07:06.500 I mean, they can already do those things if they have to.

00:07:08.140 It's just not easy.

00:07:09.460 Would it make more sense just to empower citizens

00:07:11.340 to fire these guys and initiate plebiscites 0.89

00:07:13.900 to deal with bad bylaws?

00:07:15.360 I mean, you know, again, with a reasonable bar set.

00:07:18.200 But no government wants to empower citizens

00:07:19.940 to fire elected officials

00:07:21.020 because they don't want to see that power

00:07:22.200 potentially turned against themselves.

00:07:23.940 So they'll pay lip service to policies

00:07:25.880 like recall and referendum,

00:07:26.880 but they have no interest in actually giving citizens the real ability to do that.

00:07:31.880 But I hold some optimism.

00:07:33.100 Daniel Smith has been different than most of the political leaders we've seen in the last couple decades.

00:07:36.800 She's not afraid to swim upstream or rock the boat.

00:07:39.480 And if any premier might show the courage to fix Alberta's rotten recall and referendum legislation, it would be her.

00:07:45.160 She's going to have to be encouraged, though.

00:07:47.360 I mean, the UCP government already has a lot of irons in the fire.

00:07:50.180 So citizens need to quit wasting time trying to pressure Calgary's mayor and city council.

00:07:54.420 Gondek and her gang clearly don't care what you think. Energy needs to be directed at having the 0.51

00:07:59.760 provincial government amend Alberta's terrible recall and referendum legislation. If a thousand

00:08:05.520 people can come out to City Hall in Calgary to talk about something, if 70,000 can sign a petition

00:08:10.260 to recall a mayor, surely a few thousand of you can contact your MLAs and say, hey, fix that

00:08:15.260 legislation. I mean, citizens need to show they're serious and want to have that, you know, they got

00:08:21.640 to get out and fire these guys when the real election comes along, but along the way we can

00:08:24.900 fix this legislation. Alberta's going to be holding municipal elections next year, and we're

00:08:29.340 notoriously apathetic at voting time. Why should election officials care what citizens think between

00:08:33.380 elections if citizens don't even bother themselves to vote at election time? We do have the democratic

00:08:38.440 tools at our disposal, guys. We can affect the change, but we haven't been using them effectively.

00:08:43.080 If Calgary and Edmonton City Councils both got wiped out in next year's election, you can rest

00:08:46.300 assured the provincial government's going to suddenly feel inspired to keep the rest of us

00:08:49.980 happy it's up to us guys it always was and it always will be and it is right now so get out

00:08:55.020 there use those tools and encourage them okay that's what got me ranting raven today uh let's

00:09:00.160 go further oh and see what else is going on to get me all wound up and talk to our news editor

00:09:03.940 dave naylor for an update hey dave how's it going it's going well cory how are you not bad it's nice

00:09:09.060 you know i've never seen nine politicians commit career suicide before well you know 0.99

00:09:14.500 is if people get off their asses and vote. So I'm not sure if it's suicide yet. It should be. 0.99

00:09:21.020 Well, yeah, it should be. But Calgarians are pretty apathetic, aren't they?

00:09:25.280 We can be.

00:09:26.800 So I hear you had Monday. You had a difficult experience.

00:09:32.680 Which difficult experience on Monday? Oh, that. Oh, God. Yeah, I tweet these things. I should

00:09:38.720 expect you to bring them up. Yeah. Yes. I had my annual physical. And this is one of the things

00:09:43.680 we're talking about cruelty to patients. You know, when you're sitting in that room waiting

00:09:46.800 for the doctor to come along, I understand being efficient and being prepared, but do they have to

00:09:51.920 have the KY sitting next to the gown so you can sit there and stare at it for half an hour just to

00:09:57.360 build that anticipation on what you have to enjoy as a 50-some year old man doing the

00:10:03.280 physical? I'm all clear and in good health, by the way. I'm glad you were paying attention to that.

00:10:07.840 Well, I certainly was when you're talking about Vaseline and all sorts of stuff like that.

00:10:12.560 It tends to attract my attention, Corey, as you know.

00:10:15.180 Well, it's irresistible.

00:10:16.620 I mean, I can't talk all politics all the time, can I?

00:10:19.240 No, exactly.

00:10:20.200 But hey, what a busy morning we've had today at the Western Standard World headquarters here in Calgary.

00:10:26.640 We're leading off right now with a Mike Thomas column on last night's shenanigans at City Hall.

00:10:34.780 He's talking about democracy be damned.

00:10:37.920 And obviously, you can tell by the headline what he thinks about that.

00:10:41.880 We've also got a Wenzel column from one of the Calgary Home Builders, Shane Wenzel, on what he thinks about it.

00:10:48.700 And it's a pretty good column, too.

00:10:51.480 We've got some good video of some crazy motorcyclists going down Coach Howe Trail doing wheelies and basically just sort of generally making asses of themselves on the weekend.

00:11:05.180 So that's up there right now. 0.52

00:11:08.020 Political assassination attempt in Europe today.

00:11:11.420 Corey, when the Prime Minister of Slovakia was gunned down while visiting well-wishers in the street, a 71-year-old suspect being arrested, and the Prime Minister, multiple gunshot wounds in hospital in critical condition.

00:11:29.200 Good news, Corey, for when you're traveling to B.C. in the summer.

00:11:33.140 And if you want to take a ferry, they're going to have all gender washrooms now. 1.00

00:11:37.700 They're going to get rid of male and female washrooms and all gendered. 1.00

00:11:41.520 And men will be able to get menstrual products while they're on board those ships. 0.98

00:11:49.820 And our Jonathan Bradley is just wrapping up a press conference with the premier on the state of the wildfire situation

00:11:57.040 in Fort Mac, a very tense situation up there, and we'll have all the latest on that.

00:12:03.200 And, Corey, I'm just reading through a report from ACERT, the police watchdog in Alberta.

00:12:10.740 They were investigating a police shooting in Edmonton, which an officer shot and killed somebody.

00:12:17.660 Interesting report.

00:12:18.840 ACERT says they thought there might have been enough there to charge the officer with homicide,

00:12:24.720 but the Crown Prosecutor's Office said they declined to prosecute.

00:12:30.320 So I'll have that story up as quick as I can.

00:12:33.920 Great. Well, it's interesting to know what the BC Fair is.

00:12:36.640 I don't plan on going out there, but you know, my nether regions are a little tender.

00:12:39.840 I mean, free man ponds might have been handy the other day.

00:12:42.560 You never know. I mean, these are public services.

00:12:44.480 Well, you know, it's there for you if you need it.

00:12:47.280 Well, comforting to know the tax dollars are hard at work on the important things.

00:12:52.080 All right. Well, thanks. I'll let you get back to covering. Well, I mean, there's a lot going on,

00:12:55.860 all the fires and everything else too. So we'll check in with you after the show then.

00:13:01.000 Thanks, Corey.

00:13:01.860 Thanks, Dave. So that is our news editor, Dave Naylor. As you see, yes, lots of stuff. We're

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00:13:53.360 yes, lots on the go going on out there. You know, where to begin? You know, before I get to my next

00:14:00.060 guest, I just want to talk briefly on something that popped up. I like to cover some of these

00:14:03.500 stories. It's just kind of a sidetrack on things, but a story that came out from the Canadian

00:14:08.940 Federation of Independent Business. This is when it gets down to people wanting simple solutions

00:14:13.540 to complex problems. There's two areas I think that are big ones when it comes to that. One's

00:14:17.560 rent control, which never works, no matter how much you try. People think if we could just control

00:14:22.200 the rent, we'll keep everybody's rent low. The problem is it doesn't work. It's sunshine and

00:14:27.540 lollipops. I wish it worked. If it worked, I'd say let's do it. But they try it all over the place.

00:14:31.840 What it does is leads to reduced supply, which leads in the end to higher rent or at least lower

00:14:36.980 availability. Hey, it's great if your rent is controlled and low in your area, but if you can't

00:14:41.100 get into a house, you're kind of screwed, aren't you? But the other one is minimum wages. And

00:14:45.880 people keep thinking if we can just raise minimum wages high enough, we'll get rid of poverty. It

00:14:51.520 doesn't work. It doesn't work. If it was that simple, why haven't they raised the minimum wage 0.55

00:14:56.300 in Guatemala and made them all rich there yet? Why is there still a whole huge problem? California,

00:15:02.200 I think they raised it to $20 an hour, which those are real dollars. Those are the American dollars,

00:15:06.400 not the Canadian peso. And they still have people fleeing California because the high cost of living.

00:15:12.340 And the other thing is the myth with people saying the amount of people dependent on minimum wages.

00:15:17.880 You see in Alberta right now, we're booming and inflation's going high.

00:15:20.880 It's hard to find labor.

00:15:22.940 So the researchers found in Canada, the amount of minimum wage workers,

00:15:27.660 as we always talk about it being single parents and such,

00:15:29.460 well, it turns out 1.5% of minimum wage earners are single parents.

00:15:33.740 It's not a big portion of it.

00:15:37.140 37% of the people earning minimum wage are teenagers.

00:15:40.200 They're entry-level wages.

00:15:42.120 and if they're any good, they're going to go up fast. 57% of the minimum wage earners are under

00:15:47.700 25. And again, it's going to rise fast. It's hard to find good people. If they're good workers,

00:15:53.380 if they're learning skills, if they're reliable, rest assured, they're not going to stay Alberta's

00:15:58.240 minimum wage. I think it's $15 an hour right now. It's going to go up fast. We want to address

00:16:02.620 poverty. The way to do it is to get a stronger economy. That's the way to do it. Artificial

00:16:07.700 measures, increasing minimum wages just doesn't help. Again, if it worked, I'd be all for it. If

00:16:13.580 it was that simple, if it was that beautiful, everybody could be living comfortably and paying

00:16:17.040 all their bills. If we could just raise that arbitrary number high enough, but it doesn't

00:16:20.780 work. The stats are there. And I'm going to segue that into my next guest, Dr. Regina Wattil,

00:16:26.260 because I do believe she's a statistician and these stats are important. This is how we learn

00:16:30.260 things. This is how we realize what is working and isn't, what isn't working. And also of course,

00:16:35.400 when the wool's being pulled over your eyes.

00:16:38.200 So thank you very much for coming to join the show today, Doctor,

00:16:42.460 and I appreciate your book.

00:16:45.040 Oh, thank you.

00:16:45.920 Thanks for having me on your show, Corey.

00:16:47.920 So your book, I mean, I'll just let you start it off kind of, you know,

00:16:51.180 on the premise of what it's about.

00:16:52.300 It's called Fistman's Fraud, The Rise of Canadian Hate Science.

00:16:55.760 Hate science, that's an interesting term you've coined for it, but it works.

00:17:00.160 Can you kind of explain what motivated you to write the book

00:17:02.460 and just in a nutshell what the book's on?

00:17:05.400 Oh, goodness. What motivated me? Well, that's a tough one because there's been a lot of shenanigans during the pandemic and a lot of fraud.

00:17:16.580 And I've been fighting this since day one. But basically, I came across, well, everybody came across an overtly fraudulent piece of research that targeted unvaccinated individuals and scapegoated them.

00:17:34.000 And basically, I knew right then and there, I had to do my best to take it down.

00:17:41.300 So basically, my book dispels the pandemic of the unvaccinated narrative.

00:17:47.420 It shows that it's purely political and that it was propped up by fraudulent science.

00:17:52.940 And it focuses on a particular case of scientific fraud that was committed by University of Toronto professors.

00:18:00.980 um the main author of the of the scientific research was david fisman he has basically been

00:18:09.460 canada's front man for pandemic modeling he is a tenured professor at the university of toronto

00:18:16.740 he's also a physician and he has advised all levels of government from municipal to provincial

00:18:23.620 to federal during the pandemic and basically what happened with their study was that when the

00:18:33.380 pandemic when it was shown that the pandemic of the unvaccinated narrative was false that

00:18:39.780 it completely broke down this was after omicron the researchers at the university of toronto

00:18:46.820 basically concocted a model that simulated fake data to show that unvaccinated people had higher

00:18:54.500 incident rates than vaccinated individuals and as such were a disproportionate risk to others

00:19:00.260 and then they tried to pass off their fake data and their fake results as a true reflection of

00:19:05.620 reality even though official government of Ontario data showed basically the opposite

00:19:11.060 um and then from there there was a big media frenzy warning everybody of the risk of merely

00:19:19.580 hanging out with the unvaccinated well yeah and that's part of what really got to me was this 1.00

00:19:25.720 this social division that they sowed with this agenda I mean not just the the study but the

00:19:31.280 other people who followed up on I mean the vaccinations were initially sold at least

00:19:35.500 uh with the case being made that this is going to prevent transmission and we found out pretty

00:19:40.220 quickly once they were being applied, whatever, I mean, we can debate the benefits or whether they

00:19:44.700 reduce symptoms or not or whatever, but they did not have any impact on the transmissibility of

00:19:49.800 that, which should have with rational moral people said, well, we can't keep yelling at people that

00:19:55.700 they're putting everybody else at risk or in danger. And we shouldn't be trying to segregate

00:19:59.540 people or pressure people saying, you're going to kill my grandma if you don't get vaccinated

00:20:02.980 because the vaccines did nothing to stop the transmission right there. The narrative should

00:20:08.220 have changed, but instead they doubled down. Yeah, they doubled down on it because it's a

00:20:13.680 real problem for the government if it doesn't curtail transmission. Mandates don't make sense.

00:20:19.420 The mandates don't make sense. The passports don't make sense. The travel restriction, nothing they

00:20:23.080 did makes sense when it comes to the restrictions they put in place. So they're doing everything

00:20:27.460 they can to double down. Even now they're doubled down on that narrative. They've never

00:20:33.540 admitted they were wrong, and they're still saying the same thing.

00:20:38.720 It's difficult to get those discussions out. Like when we were doing our productions at that time,

00:20:45.240 if I mentioned the word vaccine on YouTube, we'd be punted off the channel. We could,

00:20:50.440 if we wanted to maintain our ability to keep broadcasting, it was a no-go area for us. We

00:20:55.940 had to talk around in circles to avoid the algorithms. It was just brutal. Like why,

00:21:01.320 why were they so afraid of discourse on what should be such an important issue?

00:21:08.140 Well, when it comes to transmission, they basically set things up, I believe, to bring in

00:21:16.640 mandates in the future. And so they don't want to back down on their narrative. And what happened

00:21:23.660 with the Fisman study is Fisman and his colleagues, they basically committed an overt

00:21:30.240 textbook case of scientific fraud to prop up these mandates and restrictions.

00:21:36.700 And the issue is that when I tried to get the paper retracted, instead of

00:21:43.860 admitting there was a problem, the journal, the Canadian Medical

00:21:48.920 Association Journal, would not retract the article, even though dozens of

00:21:52.560 scientists rebuked the findings. The University of Toronto backed it, the

00:21:58.020 The Canadian Institutes of Health Research, they're standing by it.

00:22:01.940 So now you have that top institutions are basically complicit in this fraud, which makes

00:22:08.420 it really bad for them because it is provable.

00:22:13.420 And when you show that institutions are willing to commit fraud to scapegoat a segment of

00:22:19.100 the population, then that segment requires protections.

00:22:23.380 basically, that's what I'm trying to do with this book is force protections for, you know,

00:22:30.860 based on vaccine choice and medical choice. Well, yeah, medical choice is essential. And I mean,

00:22:37.540 what we're seeing now, and it's been frustrating to me, is because of the deception, because of

00:22:43.160 the forcefulness of it, I mean, so much trust has been broken with people. We're seeing tried and

00:22:49.720 intrude vaccines people are refusing to take them now we're seeing whooping cough reappearing we're

00:22:54.440 seeing measles reappearing because these guys shoved these unproven vaccines down the throats

00:22:59.540 of Canadians what I worry about as you said we should be looking though down the road in case 1.00

00:23:03.400 there's another pandemic of another sort people won't take up it maybe a real vaccine would come

00:23:10.160 up maybe something dangerous that is transmissible and there is a vaccine that stops it but people

00:23:14.560 aren't going to take it because they aren't going to believe the government that refused to at least

00:23:18.540 acknowledge what they learned this time around oh for sure they've done what they've done uh

00:23:24.460 for vaccination is horrific they they are responsible for people not wanting to get

00:23:29.660 regular vaccines but not just vaccination the the reputation of science itself statistics you know

00:23:36.220 epidemiology the reputation of a lot of things have gone down because of this pandemic and um

00:23:43.100 um, yeah, legal to the justice system. People don't have faith in the justice system. It's

00:23:50.060 in a very terrible state. Um, when, when you have trusted organizations outright, uh, fabricating

00:23:56.920 and lying to citizens. Well, and, and we got fortunate as far as any kind of pandemic will

00:24:02.840 go. And, and, you know, again, speaking of statistics, people can look at that. I mean,

00:24:05.680 one of the ways they'd love to shut it down. If you're not a medical doctor, you shouldn't be

00:24:08.160 able to speak on this. Oh, kiss my butt. We've got to be able to speak on that. We got to look 1.00

00:24:11.500 at these numbers. And one of the things that was pretty clear very early was healthy people under

00:24:18.860 the age of 40, the chances of them actually being permanently harmed by COVID, thankfully, were next

00:24:24.160 to none. I mean, the numbers bore that out. They bore it out during the time and more so even now.

00:24:30.880 Yet you don't hear them talking about that. We pretended this was going to impact everybody and

00:24:36.200 it didn't which again makes a dangerous environment for uh perhaps an outbreak that comes down the

00:24:41.560 road that is much more dangerous because people aren't going to believe them well you're exactly

00:24:45.400 right the right away in march of 2020 it was shown at that time that most individuals were not

00:24:52.520 at serious risk of uh copen 19 complications at that time um and right away the government acted

00:25:00.280 in a direction that um was opposite of what the data was saying so when i looked at that at that

00:25:06.840 time i was really worried because there was really no reason even in the beginning to do the lockdowns

00:25:14.840 the school closures and and whatnot but that's what they did right away and they didn't uh correct

00:25:20.840 they didn't self-correct when it was obvious they were wrong they just kept on going

00:25:25.400 yeah and now that as well as time is passing i mean a big turning point that's where i thought

00:25:31.760 oh boy i want to get her on your talk more about this because finally people are looking back and

00:25:35.720 realizing like was the astrazeneca now kind of admitting that we haven't seen numbers we haven't

00:25:39.860 seen what's going on but i mean this must be pretty serious what they're seeing what they're

00:25:42.960 seeing is a rare side effect that could seriously harm people with their vaccine bad enough that at

00:25:47.920 least that they felt it's time to pull that right off the market uh when we were told for so long

00:25:52.740 these vaccines were virtually harmless when we're seeing them pulling it off the market

00:25:57.620 i i think some alarm bells should be going off here the alarm bells should be going off but

00:26:04.180 at least here in canada they haven't really admitted to anything they're saying it's for

00:26:08.340 other reasons and um like even though it looks like some progress is being made the people that

00:26:15.540 are in charge of anything everything they haven't changed course at all they haven't even changed

00:26:20.180 course when it comes to the the transmission they're still trying to say that there's some

00:26:26.020 some benefit when when there just simply isn't um when you look at even fisman's study he just did

00:26:33.060 an update last month and they're still clinging to the same narrative and they're clinging to the

00:26:39.300 you know that the unvaccinated pose a threat when it's clear they didn't and then when it comes to 1.00

00:26:44.260 safety, they're even less likely to admit they were wrong because that, that will be extremely

00:26:51.000 problematic to them. So even though, you know, the information is getting out there, there isn't,

00:26:56.060 has been no course correction, really. I mean, this is a good sign with AstraZeneca, but

00:27:01.660 it's not near enough. No, and something else. I mean, I've been watching the numbers for the

00:27:07.560 people. I mean, they're still advertising. They're still pushing, you know, get your boosters,

00:27:10.940 boosters, boosters. I don't know. Some people get up to their sixth or seventh booster,

00:27:14.080 wherever the heck they are. But most people have stopped. I mean, the numbers of people who have

00:27:19.520 bothered following up with boosters any longer is virtually nil, at least non-vulnerable people,

00:27:25.020 the younger people. So if, I mean, they always said that we'd have to keep doing this for years,

00:27:30.340 we'd have to keep these boosters or this never was going to go away. Well, it's gone away

00:27:33.600 despite nobody taking the boosters or next to nobody. So, I mean, the bottom line is this

00:27:38.840 thing just had to run its course well it did but the issue is obviously they keep talking about

00:27:45.560 the next pandemic and the next emergency so unless we we change uh what what they've set up

00:27:52.460 um we may find ourselves in this position again with these ridiculous restrictions and

00:27:58.140 basically that the government has shown that they can just toss our rights and freedoms aside so

00:28:05.280 unless we put protections in, I think we will see it again. And there's a lot, like today I was

00:28:13.420 feeling pretty positive that we're making some progress because there are more discussions going

00:28:19.160 on and there's a lot of things going on in the background that I know with a lot of people. So

00:28:22.900 we're working hard to put protections in place. So I'm really hoping we'll get somewhere.

00:28:28.280 Well, that's good. I mean, another thing that happened throughout the course of this too,

00:28:32.800 and the numbers just didn't bear it up and that's why I don't think you know statisticians and people

00:28:36.760 should be dismissed it's very important we're always worried about super spreader situations

00:28:40.960 every time with whether it was the Sylvan Lake Beach in Alberta or even the rodeo that the

00:28:45.440 Western Standard sponsored during the pandemic and we were all accused you're going to kill

00:28:49.140 everybody it's going to be a super spreader event thousands of people are going to be traced with

00:28:53.300 infections to these events it never happened from from hockey games to rodeos to people going to

00:28:59.140 the beach that just didn't happen right but the thing is that you are you're correct more statisticians

00:29:05.280 need to step up because pandemic science really has been about the manipulation of statistics

00:29:09.980 to get people to comply and do what they're told like from day one it's all been about it's a

00:29:15.860 statistical game really and um the numbers the real numbers and and and the real science was

00:29:22.160 was never on the side of these restrictions and and uh the way the government has acted so

00:29:27.840 um the the issue of course is is that the justice system doesn't seem to be open to actual evidence

00:29:36.240 and a lot of times they go on expert opinion as opposed to uh provable facts um i'm hoping one

00:29:44.900 day we can actually show the evidence because you can show the fraud you you can prove the fraud

00:29:50.840 based on these based on basic principles of science. I can do it with Fisman. I can show

00:29:57.980 other other examples of fraud. Right now, I'm looking at some of the things done here by the

00:30:03.380 Ontario Science Table, showing how they fudged numbers to basically put the screws to the

00:30:09.040 working unvaxxed. These things actually are not that difficult to prove. We're just being blocked

00:30:16.740 from proving it. Yeah, and it's very frustrating. I mean, just if nothing else out of this whole

00:30:21.980 few years, what I want to see is that we learned something. I fear two outcomes that have happened

00:30:28.320 from all this deception. I mean, one is that either a relatively minor pandemic of some sort,

00:30:34.780 like COVID is going to come along. And yes, the government's just going to feel empowered to come

00:30:37.800 in and step on our rights and infringe on us all over again if we haven't learned from it.

00:30:42.200 or it could be the next zombie apocalypse and it's something terribly dangerous,

00:30:46.800 but nobody's going to trust the restrictions or the distancing or anything because of what

00:30:51.120 happened the last time. And we'll have a worse infection than we would have endured. So we've

00:30:56.360 really got to look at this with an unvarnished eye and come at it better in the future.

00:31:01.020 Oh, oh, for sure. You're not going to get an argument from me without one. And you're

00:31:06.940 correct. It could go either way. I got to say that my trust in the establishment is completely gone.

00:31:15.160 I see too much corruption and I see too much abuse. So all I'm going to do is try to set the

00:31:21.980 record straight and one day at a time make progress. Well, you've certainly put your effort

00:31:28.660 in to do so and I appreciate that and with your book. So, I mean, before I let you go,

00:31:32.600 where can people find you? I know you have a busy online presence and of course you have your book

00:31:38.020 available. Where can people get a copy? Well, people can get a copy on Amazon, Indigo. Vets

00:31:43.840 for Freedom also carries it if people don't want to go through the major chains. I'm pretty active

00:31:50.080 on Twitter, but that's about it because it's really hard to keep up on all the different

00:31:53.940 social media platforms. So I usually just make tweets. Right now I'm working on several things

00:31:58.780 in the in the background so i mean i want people to realize that that you know there are there is

00:32:05.100 progress being made um i've been very unfortunate with this book in that uh you know i've had been

00:32:10.700 on podcasts and uh certainly being on redacted really helped with the exposure and because of

00:32:15.900 that i've been able to get this book into the hands of dozens of mps and and a senator um i'm

00:32:22.300 also doing other things like i mentioned in the background with some of the updates that have gone

00:32:27.100 on with with fismen and and and others and so um things are are moving along in the in the right

00:32:34.220 direction even though i have to say that the government so far has not changed course and

00:32:40.540 there does seem to be an effort to keep information um that goes against the narrative from actual

00:32:49.100 mps and others uh just one thing that came out is is my my book was mentioned in the house of

00:32:54.300 comments and there was even an order paper question about the funding of the study and

00:33:01.420 anybody who reads uh my book and i also put out a supplementary that shows all the

00:33:07.820 email and letter correspondence with cihr and cmaj so people know what i sent them so there

00:33:14.700 was an order paper question that went to see to cihr asking whether they received any negative

00:33:20.780 feedback about this study and they came back recently and said no and so right on the order

00:33:26.780 paper question in the house that's an outright lie and now comes to like what's going on like

00:33:33.980 are they trying to keep information from these politicians so the politicians can claim they

00:33:38.060 don't know like it's it's very uh i think we have to get to the to the bottom of it for sure

00:33:46.300 So I'm working on that. And there's also the big, big question as to how this whole media

00:33:53.500 frenzy came out when this study was published, that it went to, you know, I think over 90 media

00:33:58.940 outlets and over 100 articles were written right away. And who orchestrated that? Because it's very

00:34:04.780 unusual for a scientific study to get that level of exposure. And as you know, when the study came

00:34:11.100 out it was timely because you know that the liberal government was trying to find science

00:34:17.340 to justify its extending its mandates and travel restrictions so there's a lot of questions that

00:34:22.940 remain unanswered that uh we still need to find the answers for well we we appreciate your work

00:34:28.860 and your in your book and your ongoing work so thank you very much for for coming on to talk to

00:34:33.340 us about it today and uh i i look forward to hopefully at least trying to mitigate the harm

00:34:38.140 and the next time this sort of thing happens.

00:34:40.460 So thanks again.

00:34:42.020 And then perhaps we'll talk again soon.

00:34:44.280 Oh, thank you very much, Corey.

00:34:45.460 I appreciate this.

00:34:46.560 Thank you.

00:34:47.260 Thanks.

00:34:48.200 So again, one more time, folks,

00:34:49.560 if you want to get that book,

00:34:50.420 and it's a good one,

00:34:51.300 Fisman's Fraud by Dr. Regina Watil.

00:34:54.180 And yes, watch for her on Twitter and online.

00:34:57.220 She's still out.

00:34:57.820 It's not like she just put out a book and quit.

00:34:59.700 We've got to learn from this.

00:35:01.320 We've got to, you know, we can't make a positive.

00:35:04.560 You can't change the past,

00:35:05.700 but you can stop yourself from repeating it

00:35:07.880 if you look carefully at what happened

00:35:10.180 and don't do it again.

00:35:11.100 I'm gonna tell a little story on here.

00:35:12.440 I think I might've told it on here before,

00:35:14.100 but I know we've got a lot of new viewers

00:35:15.440 and it starts out kind of weird and crude,

00:35:17.500 but bear with me, I'm getting somewhere with it.

00:35:19.720 Back in the early 80s,

00:35:20.940 I was a young inquisitive kid like any other one.

00:35:23.460 Then I'd poke around, kids get into everything.

00:35:25.040 In my father's golf bag, I found a Hustler magazine.

00:35:28.140 Yeah, real high-end stuff. 0.97

00:35:29.920 But the funny thing was I was a little dork. 0.75

00:35:31.620 I was a strange kid. 0.92

00:35:32.880 I didn't just look at the pictures,

00:35:33.820 which of course were fascinating to me.

00:35:35.760 I read, they had articles in there.

00:35:37.880 And they had an article, actually, that was called The Gay Cancer.

00:35:41.840 This was in 82 or 83 or something.

00:35:43.820 A strange term, a crude one.

00:35:46.360 But actually, that was a story about a disease that was sweeping the gay community on the lower west coast in California. 0.79

00:35:53.940 And it was killing them all over the place.

00:35:55.540 And people were getting worked up.

00:35:56.560 They were wondering what the heck's going on.

00:35:57.740 But nobody in mainstream media was talking about it.

00:36:00.540 Nobody would touch it.

00:36:02.100 Yet Hustler covered it, of all magazines.

00:36:04.780 And doctors eventually changed the name of it, actually, and they called it Gay Acquired Immune Deficiency, which got evolved quickly to AIDS.

00:36:15.140 And that's what it was.

00:36:15.900 But the first reports of all places you're hearing about it were in a porn magazine.

00:36:20.420 And I'm not saying that Larry Flint is a good man. 0.99

00:36:22.440 He's a gross, porn-hustling pervert. 0.99

00:36:25.720 But it's sad that with something socially sensitive, we won't talk about the science. 0.99

00:36:31.700 because there's where, what happened, Rock Hudson, that was the turning point. Rock Hudson

00:36:37.580 is diagnosed with AIDS. He dies and suddenly it becomes a mainstream thing and everybody's talking

00:36:43.420 about it. But what the media did and the world didn't, everybody turned around and said, this is

00:36:47.760 everybody's disease. We've got to, and when I graduated high school by the end of the 80s,

00:36:51.300 we were told every hetero person is going to know another hetero person who's HIV positive. This is

00:36:55.580 where it's going. And we're going to do our preventative measures to make sure everybody,

00:36:58.620 Because again, people were fearful socially speaking up about where the disease was actually

00:37:04.340 hitting. It's not a prejudice to point out the reality was when that disease was emerging and

00:37:09.160 all the way through the course of it, it was predominantly among gay men and intravenous drug 0.94

00:37:16.320 users. It's not actually that easy a disease to transmit, thankfully, but still it was devastating

00:37:21.440 to those communities. It was terrible. And if we'd have properly dedicated though our resources and

00:37:27.540 looked at where it's really hitting. Spend that money to work on educating the gay community

00:37:33.460 and reduce the amount of people who died and got infected because we were sitting here wasting

00:37:37.640 money chasing after heterosexual high school kids when it was actually gay men we should be 0.93

00:37:43.000 targeting to save their lives. We wasted the resources though pretending it's everybody's

00:37:47.380 disease. Doesn't it sound familiar though when the early rumblings like I was talking about before

00:37:53.060 with Regina about, we knew it was senior citizens, we knew it was vulnerable people,

00:37:59.040 we knew it was diabetics, we knew it was obese people, that COVID is hurting, and it's not 0.96

00:38:02.960 harming the others. So why pretend that it's everybody's disease? Instead, we should focus

00:38:08.720 on who's most vulnerable, because when we do that, we can better reduce the onslaught and

00:38:14.900 the problems from it. So I mean, you know, it never changed. I mean, the AIDS still remain,

00:38:20.740 know, we've gotten it much under control compared to how it was, thank God. But we could have done

00:38:25.700 a heck of a lot better job if people would actually paid attention to it. And again,

00:38:30.640 statistically, looking at really who it's hitting and how and why. But we let political agendas and

00:38:37.940 political correctness guide our treatment of that terrible disease with COVID and AIDS. And it cost

00:38:45.340 lives. Let's look at it realistically. That's why I'm saying let's talk to statisticians. Let's look

00:38:50.660 at the numbers. That's what gives us the tail, especially when we have hindsight. So if emerging

00:38:57.240 diseases come out in the future, let's look at who it's hitting. And let's target who's most

00:39:02.540 vulnerable. Let's hope it's not everybody. But I'm sick of media and experts and others pretending

00:39:09.680 every disease is everybody's problem. It's not. We really should have done more to protect our

00:39:14.920 seniors during the point of COVID to protect people with other comorbidities. We had the

00:39:21.100 numbers very early. And even to the end, kids were virtually immune. They should have still

00:39:24.900 been going to school. We had something where the best things you could do is get out and into

00:39:30.520 fresh air. What would they do? They were closing playgrounds, the morons. They were assaulting

00:39:34.860 kids playing hockey who were never at risk. Literally, we saw that in Calgary with the

00:39:38.740 cops tackling a kid for daring to play on an outdoor rink, for doing a healthy outdoor activity,

00:39:43.180 healthy socially and physically. That's how stupid we were through this. Stupid. So let's learn from 1.00

00:39:49.800 it. Let's learn from it. And yeah, keep your alternate media going. Because like I said,

00:39:55.440 to give a little bit of credit to Hustler, aside from their pornographic images, they were actually

00:40:00.900 one of the first magazines with the courage to at least even report on this issue. This should

00:40:04.680 have been reported in mainstream magazines and newspapers years before that. But nobody had the

00:40:10.320 courage because they were too scared of social issues. Well, alternative media was actually

00:40:15.140 helping people in some ways, and it was helping lonely men as well. But back in those days,

00:40:19.480 and now alternative media is here. The Western Standard doesn't put pornographic images up,

00:40:22.880 but we will talk about issues that the mainstream media is afraid to. So Dave mentioned ACERT

00:40:28.020 earlier when he was giving the news update and protests on protests and things like that

00:40:34.240 over the cop shooting. That's the Alberta serious incident reporting. It's when there's a police

00:40:39.900 incident that gets violent. And it looks like now we're hearing talk with the protests that

00:40:44.440 got torn down in Calgary and Edmonton. It's like Alberta is leading the country in something.

00:40:51.060 I'll be kind enough to call them pro-Palestine, but in reality, they're typically now pro-Hamas. 0.87

00:40:55.520 I mean, they're celebrating October 7th. It's disgusting. But either way, 0.97

00:40:58.800 these university protests were setting up and Alberta got up and said, no, that's not happening.

00:41:06.620 And within a week, I think it took two weeks in Edmonton, it took like three days in Calgary, the police moved in and they removed the encampments.

00:41:13.000 They said, no, it's not happening.

00:41:14.700 Not going to go on in here.

00:41:15.860 The universities asked police to come in because it's private property.

00:41:20.540 But now we got the backlash.

00:41:22.100 We got Premier Smith saying, yeah, we're going to have ACERT have a look because we heard there were some injuries. 0.97

00:41:26.220 You know, there's this doctor online who showed the most pathetic. 0.75

00:41:28.940 If you look at my Twitter account online, at Corey B. Morgan, you'll see it. 0.92

00:41:32.180 I shared them a few days ago.

00:41:33.400 These little scratches on people.

00:41:35.260 The police beat them.

00:41:36.620 Oh, good Lord. Really? Oh man, my mother did more of the wooden spoon if I did something wrong in 1.00

00:41:42.520 the 80s. This is police abuse. These guys were told they were setting up fences around their

00:41:47.320 encampments. They were building pallets. Here's the pictures I took right there from University

00:41:50.920 of Calgary. And for the people who are just listening to the audio version, there's a wall

00:41:55.520 of pallets these guys actually built around their little encampment. This is like on day two. They

00:41:59.500 took trucks right into the middle of the university campus and built a camp and put a wooden wall

00:42:04.200 around it. How do you think it's going to get easier to get rid of these jerks if you leave 0.99

00:42:09.200 them? They were entrenching. They were digging in. They were getting ready for battle. The police 1.00

00:42:14.820 warned them over and over and over again to get out of here. We're removing your camp. You're

00:42:19.540 trespassing. It's not allowed. Anybody who didn't want to be physically removed, all they had to do

00:42:24.500 was walk away. And most of them apparently did, but a bunch of them didn't because they're

00:42:28.960 extremists. They're lunatics. They're Jew-hating jerks. So the police were forced to go in and 1.00

00:42:33.420 then they start throwing bottles and things at the police. And guess what? The police were dressed

00:42:37.040 in riot gear and they removed them. They tore them out of there. And there was some video. Of course,

00:42:42.560 they always ham it up. They play it up and scream and howl and fall on the ground and force the

00:42:46.800 officers to drag them away. Wah. Friggin wah. Wimps. You know, it's a show. But the thing is,

00:42:55.700 when the politicians, the cowardly politicians play to the show, you start losing. So even 0.62

00:43:01.700 Premier Smith, I understand she's got to be careful

00:43:03.820 and say, yeah, we're going to have Acer to have a look because maybe the police

00:43:05.840 were too rough.

00:43:07.820 And I listen to, I torture

00:43:09.700 myself. I listen to talk radio

00:43:11.640 because I do a lot of driving through the week and it gives me something to listen

00:43:13.800 to and at least keeps me up on the news. But the talk

00:43:15.740 radio has gotten pathetic these days. Pathetic. 1.00

00:43:18.220 And I listen to one host who was talking 1.00

00:43:19.680 to an officer about it and he kept going on about

00:43:21.260 do they have to look so militarized?

00:43:23.680 Do they have to look so militarized? He said that like

00:43:25.560 five friggin' times. What do you want? Maitre 0.98

00:43:27.460 D's? Should they come up?

00:43:29.660 Pardon me, sir. Could I please ask you to leave the camp? They're not going to. These police have to wear pads. They have to wear face shields. They have to keep a shield up because these idiots are throwing rocks. Yeah, they love throwing rocks, these Gazan types, don't they? And bottles and you name it at them. They have to protect themselves. They have to stay safe. And yes, I've seen it. I've gone to protests where the police march forward and they bang their shields when they're going. And the radio host I was listening to, such an intimidation tactic. Yes, that's exactly what it is. You jerk, you moron. 0.83

00:43:59.660 because it's better to get them afraid, saying, you know what? I don't like this. I'm going to 1.00

00:44:04.180 get up and I'm just going to leave rather than force the police to grab me and drag me out of

00:44:08.180 here. So yes, the police do purposely intimidate. They do purposely look tough when they approach

00:44:15.480 these encampments. It's for the safety of the police and it's for the safety of actually the

00:44:21.720 people protesting because if you would just get out of the damn way, you've been warned. 0.86

00:44:25.120 if you don't then it's probably going to get a little rough and they weren't that rough 0.97

00:44:29.840 they weren't they got some pepper in their eyes and uh some flash bangs went they disorient people

00:44:36.600 they make a big noise they scare them and they get them out of the way but uh to listen to the

00:44:42.500 media talking about like what do you want what do you really want so we're supposed to let these

00:44:46.060 guys set up a permanent camp sitting around there for in perpetuity and i'll be fair i see linda

00:44:51.600 a comment or say rough police were at the truckers convoy. That's true. That because they were also

00:44:56.180 removing people who had been warned over and over and over again, it was time to leave. We can debate

00:45:00.240 whether or not the truckers convoy protests should have been ordered to leave.

00:45:06.780 I honestly, I've talked about this and I know people get upset with me. I support the protest.

00:45:11.960 I supported the initial part of it. But when you get these protests coming, you can't just entrench

00:45:16.240 and block entire roads and stay permanent.

00:45:18.560 You can't, you can't.

00:45:20.260 You will force the hand of the authority.

00:45:22.020 You have to have an exit plan at some point.

00:45:24.500 You have to have reasonable demands to be met or something

00:45:28.120 because if you don't, eventually it will come to a head

00:45:31.020 and you'll be removed no matter what.

00:45:32.860 You can't block borders indefinitely.

00:45:34.780 You can't block Parliament Hill indefinitely.

00:45:36.940 And you can't set up permanent camps on university campuses.

00:45:40.240 You will be removed.

00:45:42.020 And when the police do it, they won't do it nicely.

00:45:46.240 Thankfully. It says a lot, though, about the trucker's convoy when the police did move in and there were some bad incidents with the horses and other things. But for the most part, they were sane people who realized and they were ticked off. They didn't want to be removed and they had to be kind of pushed back. But they didn't throw the bottles and attack the police and really cause heavy duty riots.

00:46:04.640 Part of the reason, too, though, is because you have a large police force there in the

00:46:08.440 first place.

00:46:08.780 We can discuss whether or not it should have been done or not.

00:46:11.140 The Emergencies Act never should have been declared. 0.99

00:46:13.200 That was an overreach, an overaction from a cowardly prime minister, and it was ridiculous. 0.98

00:46:17.280 That didn't have to happen. 0.98

00:46:19.260 But once it comes to the point, whether right or wrong, and the police have been tasked

00:46:22.860 and said, look, your job now is to go in there and remove this encampment, remove these

00:46:28.440 demonstrators, wherever it might be, they have to protect themselves.

00:46:32.180 They have to look a little intimidating.

00:46:33.540 They have to look a little militarized, and that's the way it's going to happen.

00:46:38.940 Just to finish, one thing that got a little bit better out of it all was a university, this is a nice one,

00:46:45.160 a University of Alberta diversity official, yes, diversity official tendered her resignation

00:46:50.400 because of the treatment of students at the anti-Israel encampment.

00:46:53.760 So on Saturday, this U of A Faculty of Arts Associate Dean of Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion,

00:46:59.760 Yeah, whatever.

00:47:00.920 Natalie Loveless says she witnessed violent,

00:47:02.700 forcible removal of her Hamas buddies,

00:47:04.960 so she has resigned.

00:47:06.620 Good.

00:47:07.620 Why the hell do they need this associate dean

00:47:09.580 of equity, diversity, inclusion in the first place?

00:47:11.500 Don't replace her.

00:47:12.620 Your university just got better on two levels. 1.00

00:47:14.580 You got rid of these idiots who were setting up a camp 1.00

00:47:16.420 in the middle of the university, 1.00

00:47:17.760 and you got rid of this idiot dean 1.00

00:47:19.540 who had a position she didn't need to be there 1.00

00:47:22.020 in the first place.

00:47:24.200 Look, people are free to get out and protest

00:47:26.420 day by day by day.

00:47:27.980 Get up in the morning,

00:47:28.640 go out, hold your signs, wave them. But when you start blocking roads, setting up camps in

00:47:33.720 universities, blocking borders, you're going to force their hand. So don't. Your rights aren't

00:47:39.300 being infringed on by having an encampment removed. Either way, we'll still see that.

00:47:44.380 That story is not done by a long shot. It's going to keep going on. Lots of other stories going on.

00:47:49.400 Keep an eye on the Western Standard. As I said, we've got the wildfires. We've got people covering

00:47:52.660 it. It's that time of year, guys. We're going to have them. And unfortunately, they're getting

00:47:55.740 near populated places. People have been evacuated and just keep coming back. So thanks for tuning

00:48:01.880 in today, guys. Share those links. Keep coming to the standard and tune into the pipeline tonight.

00:48:07.020 We're going to cover a few more stories in depth with a panel. So thanks for tuning in this week

00:48:11.200 and I'll see you all again next week at this time.

00:48:25.740 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - May 16, 2024

Citizens need the ability to fire politicians between elections

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