In this episode of the Corey Morgan Show, Dr. Regina Wattil, author of Fistman's Fraud, joins the show to discuss the recent recall of Calgary Mayor Jody Gondek, and why citizens should have the power to recall their elected officials.
00:03:31.660Calgary's mayor and city council voted yesterday 9 to 6
00:03:34.120to impose the blanket rezoning on the city.
00:03:37.020Even though 70% of those who presented in person opposed the rezoning,
00:03:41.50090% of the thousands of submissions that were put in from citizens
00:03:45.460opposed the rezoning. And the council, they never campaigned on rezoning. It didn't matter.
00:03:51.620They don't care what citizens think. And the snide attitudes of some of those council members made
00:03:56.300it pretty clear. Karah, if you're a Calgarian, you know who I'm talking about. He's a special
00:04:00.300piece of work. But they got a few other clowns on there worthy of your derision as well.0.99
00:04:04.340In a sense, what Mayor Gondek and her supporters on city council said to Calgarians as well,
00:04:08.680what are you going to do about it? It's a valid question. What can citizens do about it?
00:04:14.080I mean, clearly, the mayor and council don't care what people think between elections, and they have no fear, you know, of being able to pursue their own personal agendas, even if they don't match the wishes of the citizens who put them there in the first place.
00:04:26.280That's why I support having citizens initiated recall and referendum legislation.
00:04:31.340Citizens should have their means to at least hold elected officials accountable between elections.
00:04:37.620I mean, there's a case to be made against having such election legislation.
00:04:40.840You know, they say we can remove elected officials every few years in a general election and we should just live with our choice for the duration of their term, come hell or hide water.
00:04:48.680It's fair enough and debatable, I guess.
00:04:50.900What isn't debatable, though, is that Alberta's current legislation for recall and citizens-initiated referendum is utterly worthless.
00:04:57.500It was purposely craft by the Kenney government to be unworkable.
00:05:00.660Kenney needed to fulfill a campaign promise, but he didn't really want to arm citizens with the power to remove elected officials.
00:05:06.240So when they passed the Recall Act of 2022, his government ensured the bars set to invoke a recall were set impossibly high.
00:05:15.200So there was a recent effort to recall Calgary Mayor Jody Gondek, and it demonstrated how useless the legislation is.
00:05:21.000I mean, polls have indicated Gondek is the least popular mayor in Calgary's history.
00:05:26.260Despite that, though, a recall effort initiated by Calgary and Landon Johnston barely managed to get over 10% of the required citizens to start the recall process going.
00:05:36.240And there was hundreds of volunteers working around the city to do it.
00:05:39.740On top of that, even if Johnston's petition had somehow reached the ridiculously high 514,000 signatures required,
00:05:47.380which is more than people voted in the entire election, by the way,
00:05:50.440a technicality found by City of Calgary bureaucrats rendered the signatures of the petition to be apparently 100% invalid.
00:05:57.380The language of the act is confusing and offers all sorts of hurdles on top of simply getting the signature.
00:06:02.920So apparently there wasn't a little notice that was attached to the sheets of the petition.
00:06:07.220So those 69,000 signatures were 100% invalid, according to city bureaucrats.
00:10:51.480We've got some good video of some crazy motorcyclists going down Coach Howe Trail doing wheelies and basically just sort of generally making asses of themselves on the weekend.
00:11:08.020Political assassination attempt in Europe today.
00:11:11.420Corey, when the Prime Minister of Slovakia was gunned down while visiting well-wishers in the street, a 71-year-old suspect being arrested, and the Prime Minister, multiple gunshot wounds in hospital in critical condition.
00:11:29.200Good news, Corey, for when you're traveling to B.C. in the summer.
00:11:33.140And if you want to take a ferry, they're going to have all gender washrooms now.1.00
00:11:37.700They're going to get rid of male and female washrooms and all gendered.1.00
00:11:41.520And men will be able to get menstrual products while they're on board those ships.0.98
00:11:49.820And our Jonathan Bradley is just wrapping up a press conference with the premier on the state of the wildfire situation
00:11:57.040in Fort Mac, a very tense situation up there, and we'll have all the latest on that.
00:12:03.200And, Corey, I'm just reading through a report from ACERT, the police watchdog in Alberta.
00:12:10.740They were investigating a police shooting in Edmonton, which an officer shot and killed somebody.
00:16:52.300It's called Fistman's Fraud, The Rise of Canadian Hate Science.
00:16:55.760Hate science, that's an interesting term you've coined for it, but it works.
00:17:00.160Can you kind of explain what motivated you to write the book
00:17:02.460and just in a nutshell what the book's on?
00:17:05.400Oh, goodness. What motivated me? Well, that's a tough one because there's been a lot of shenanigans during the pandemic and a lot of fraud.
00:17:16.580And I've been fighting this since day one. But basically, I came across, well, everybody came across an overtly fraudulent piece of research that targeted unvaccinated individuals and scapegoated them.
00:17:34.000And basically, I knew right then and there, I had to do my best to take it down.
00:17:41.300So basically, my book dispels the pandemic of the unvaccinated narrative.
00:17:47.420It shows that it's purely political and that it was propped up by fraudulent science.
00:17:52.940And it focuses on a particular case of scientific fraud that was committed by University of Toronto professors.
00:18:00.980um the main author of the of the scientific research was david fisman he has basically been
00:18:09.460canada's front man for pandemic modeling he is a tenured professor at the university of toronto
00:18:16.740he's also a physician and he has advised all levels of government from municipal to provincial
00:18:23.620to federal during the pandemic and basically what happened with their study was that when the
00:18:33.380pandemic when it was shown that the pandemic of the unvaccinated narrative was false that
00:18:39.780it completely broke down this was after omicron the researchers at the university of toronto
00:18:46.820basically concocted a model that simulated fake data to show that unvaccinated people had higher
00:18:54.500incident rates than vaccinated individuals and as such were a disproportionate risk to others
00:19:00.260and then they tried to pass off their fake data and their fake results as a true reflection of
00:19:05.620reality even though official government of Ontario data showed basically the opposite
00:19:11.060um and then from there there was a big media frenzy warning everybody of the risk of merely
00:19:19.580hanging out with the unvaccinated well yeah and that's part of what really got to me was this1.00
00:19:25.720this social division that they sowed with this agenda I mean not just the the study but the
00:19:31.280other people who followed up on I mean the vaccinations were initially sold at least
00:19:35.500uh with the case being made that this is going to prevent transmission and we found out pretty
00:19:40.220quickly once they were being applied, whatever, I mean, we can debate the benefits or whether they
00:19:44.700reduce symptoms or not or whatever, but they did not have any impact on the transmissibility of
00:19:49.800that, which should have with rational moral people said, well, we can't keep yelling at people that
00:19:55.700they're putting everybody else at risk or in danger. And we shouldn't be trying to segregate
00:19:59.540people or pressure people saying, you're going to kill my grandma if you don't get vaccinated
00:20:02.980because the vaccines did nothing to stop the transmission right there. The narrative should
00:20:08.220have changed, but instead they doubled down. Yeah, they doubled down on it because it's a
00:20:13.680real problem for the government if it doesn't curtail transmission. Mandates don't make sense.
00:20:19.420The mandates don't make sense. The passports don't make sense. The travel restriction, nothing they
00:20:23.080did makes sense when it comes to the restrictions they put in place. So they're doing everything
00:20:27.460they can to double down. Even now they're doubled down on that narrative. They've never
00:20:33.540admitted they were wrong, and they're still saying the same thing.
00:20:38.720It's difficult to get those discussions out. Like when we were doing our productions at that time,
00:20:45.240if I mentioned the word vaccine on YouTube, we'd be punted off the channel. We could,
00:20:50.440if we wanted to maintain our ability to keep broadcasting, it was a no-go area for us. We
00:20:55.940had to talk around in circles to avoid the algorithms. It was just brutal. Like why,
00:21:01.320why were they so afraid of discourse on what should be such an important issue?
00:21:08.140Well, when it comes to transmission, they basically set things up, I believe, to bring in
00:21:16.640mandates in the future. And so they don't want to back down on their narrative. And what happened
00:21:23.660with the Fisman study is Fisman and his colleagues, they basically committed an overt
00:21:30.240textbook case of scientific fraud to prop up these mandates and restrictions.
00:21:36.700And the issue is that when I tried to get the paper retracted, instead of
00:21:43.860admitting there was a problem, the journal, the Canadian Medical
00:21:48.920Association Journal, would not retract the article, even though dozens of
00:21:52.560scientists rebuked the findings. The University of Toronto backed it, the
00:21:58.020The Canadian Institutes of Health Research, they're standing by it.
00:22:01.940So now you have that top institutions are basically complicit in this fraud, which makes
00:22:08.420it really bad for them because it is provable.
00:22:13.420And when you show that institutions are willing to commit fraud to scapegoat a segment of
00:22:19.100the population, then that segment requires protections.
00:22:23.380basically, that's what I'm trying to do with this book is force protections for, you know,
00:22:30.860based on vaccine choice and medical choice. Well, yeah, medical choice is essential. And I mean,
00:22:37.540what we're seeing now, and it's been frustrating to me, is because of the deception, because of
00:22:43.160the forcefulness of it, I mean, so much trust has been broken with people. We're seeing tried and
00:22:49.720intrude vaccines people are refusing to take them now we're seeing whooping cough reappearing we're
00:22:54.440seeing measles reappearing because these guys shoved these unproven vaccines down the throats
00:22:59.540of Canadians what I worry about as you said we should be looking though down the road in case1.00
00:23:03.400there's another pandemic of another sort people won't take up it maybe a real vaccine would come
00:23:10.160up maybe something dangerous that is transmissible and there is a vaccine that stops it but people
00:23:14.560aren't going to take it because they aren't going to believe the government that refused to at least
00:23:18.540acknowledge what they learned this time around oh for sure they've done what they've done uh
00:23:24.460for vaccination is horrific they they are responsible for people not wanting to get
00:23:29.660regular vaccines but not just vaccination the the reputation of science itself statistics you know
00:23:36.220epidemiology the reputation of a lot of things have gone down because of this pandemic and um
00:23:43.100um, yeah, legal to the justice system. People don't have faith in the justice system. It's
00:23:50.060in a very terrible state. Um, when, when you have trusted organizations outright, uh, fabricating
00:23:56.920and lying to citizens. Well, and, and we got fortunate as far as any kind of pandemic will
00:24:02.840go. And, and, you know, again, speaking of statistics, people can look at that. I mean,
00:24:05.680one of the ways they'd love to shut it down. If you're not a medical doctor, you shouldn't be
00:24:08.160able to speak on this. Oh, kiss my butt. We've got to be able to speak on that. We got to look
00:24:11.500at these numbers. And one of the things that was pretty clear very early was healthy people under
00:24:18.860the age of 40, the chances of them actually being permanently harmed by COVID, thankfully, were next
00:24:24.160to none. I mean, the numbers bore that out. They bore it out during the time and more so even now.
00:24:30.880Yet you don't hear them talking about that. We pretended this was going to impact everybody and
00:24:36.200it didn't which again makes a dangerous environment for uh perhaps an outbreak that comes down the
00:24:41.560road that is much more dangerous because people aren't going to believe them well you're exactly
00:24:45.400right the right away in march of 2020 it was shown at that time that most individuals were not
00:24:52.520at serious risk of uh copen 19 complications at that time um and right away the government acted
00:25:00.280in a direction that um was opposite of what the data was saying so when i looked at that at that
00:25:06.840time i was really worried because there was really no reason even in the beginning to do the lockdowns
00:25:14.840the school closures and and whatnot but that's what they did right away and they didn't uh correct
00:25:20.840they didn't self-correct when it was obvious they were wrong they just kept on going
00:25:25.400yeah and now that as well as time is passing i mean a big turning point that's where i thought
00:25:31.760oh boy i want to get her on your talk more about this because finally people are looking back and
00:25:35.720realizing like was the astrazeneca now kind of admitting that we haven't seen numbers we haven't
00:25:39.860seen what's going on but i mean this must be pretty serious what they're seeing what they're
00:25:42.960seeing is a rare side effect that could seriously harm people with their vaccine bad enough that at
00:25:47.920least that they felt it's time to pull that right off the market uh when we were told for so long
00:25:52.740these vaccines were virtually harmless when we're seeing them pulling it off the market
00:25:57.620i i think some alarm bells should be going off here the alarm bells should be going off but
00:26:04.180at least here in canada they haven't really admitted to anything they're saying it's for
00:26:08.340other reasons and um like even though it looks like some progress is being made the people that
00:26:15.540are in charge of anything everything they haven't changed course at all they haven't even changed
00:26:20.180course when it comes to the the transmission they're still trying to say that there's some
00:26:26.020some benefit when when there just simply isn't um when you look at even fisman's study he just did
00:26:33.060an update last month and they're still clinging to the same narrative and they're clinging to the
00:26:39.300you know that the unvaccinated pose a threat when it's clear they didn't and then when it comes to1.00
00:26:44.260safety, they're even less likely to admit they were wrong because that, that will be extremely
00:26:51.000problematic to them. So even though, you know, the information is getting out there, there isn't,
00:26:56.060has been no course correction, really. I mean, this is a good sign with AstraZeneca, but
00:27:01.660it's not near enough. No, and something else. I mean, I've been watching the numbers for the
00:27:07.560people. I mean, they're still advertising. They're still pushing, you know, get your boosters,
00:27:10.940boosters, boosters. I don't know. Some people get up to their sixth or seventh booster,
00:27:14.080wherever the heck they are. But most people have stopped. I mean, the numbers of people who have
00:27:19.520bothered following up with boosters any longer is virtually nil, at least non-vulnerable people,
00:27:25.020the younger people. So if, I mean, they always said that we'd have to keep doing this for years,
00:27:30.340we'd have to keep these boosters or this never was going to go away. Well, it's gone away
00:27:33.600despite nobody taking the boosters or next to nobody. So, I mean, the bottom line is this
00:27:38.840thing just had to run its course well it did but the issue is obviously they keep talking about
00:27:45.560the next pandemic and the next emergency so unless we we change uh what what they've set up
00:27:52.460um we may find ourselves in this position again with these ridiculous restrictions and
00:27:58.140basically that the government has shown that they can just toss our rights and freedoms aside so
00:28:05.280unless we put protections in, I think we will see it again. And there's a lot, like today I was
00:28:13.420feeling pretty positive that we're making some progress because there are more discussions going
00:28:19.160on and there's a lot of things going on in the background that I know with a lot of people. So
00:28:22.900we're working hard to put protections in place. So I'm really hoping we'll get somewhere.
00:28:28.280Well, that's good. I mean, another thing that happened throughout the course of this too,
00:28:32.800and the numbers just didn't bear it up and that's why I don't think you know statisticians and people
00:28:36.760should be dismissed it's very important we're always worried about super spreader situations
00:28:40.960every time with whether it was the Sylvan Lake Beach in Alberta or even the rodeo that the
00:28:45.440Western Standard sponsored during the pandemic and we were all accused you're going to kill
00:28:49.140everybody it's going to be a super spreader event thousands of people are going to be traced with
00:28:53.300infections to these events it never happened from from hockey games to rodeos to people going to
00:28:59.140the beach that just didn't happen right but the thing is that you are you're correct more statisticians
00:29:05.280need to step up because pandemic science really has been about the manipulation of statistics
00:29:09.980to get people to comply and do what they're told like from day one it's all been about it's a
00:29:15.860statistical game really and um the numbers the real numbers and and and the real science was
00:29:22.160was never on the side of these restrictions and and uh the way the government has acted so
00:29:27.840um the the issue of course is is that the justice system doesn't seem to be open to actual evidence
00:29:36.240and a lot of times they go on expert opinion as opposed to uh provable facts um i'm hoping one
00:29:44.900day we can actually show the evidence because you can show the fraud you you can prove the fraud
00:29:50.840based on these based on basic principles of science. I can do it with Fisman. I can show
00:29:57.980other other examples of fraud. Right now, I'm looking at some of the things done here by the
00:30:03.380Ontario Science Table, showing how they fudged numbers to basically put the screws to the
00:30:09.040working unvaxxed. These things actually are not that difficult to prove. We're just being blocked
00:30:16.740from proving it. Yeah, and it's very frustrating. I mean, just if nothing else out of this whole
00:30:21.980few years, what I want to see is that we learned something. I fear two outcomes that have happened
00:30:28.320from all this deception. I mean, one is that either a relatively minor pandemic of some sort,
00:30:34.780like COVID is going to come along. And yes, the government's just going to feel empowered to come
00:30:37.800in and step on our rights and infringe on us all over again if we haven't learned from it.
00:30:42.200or it could be the next zombie apocalypse and it's something terribly dangerous,
00:30:46.800but nobody's going to trust the restrictions or the distancing or anything because of what
00:30:51.120happened the last time. And we'll have a worse infection than we would have endured. So we've
00:30:56.360really got to look at this with an unvarnished eye and come at it better in the future.
00:31:01.020Oh, oh, for sure. You're not going to get an argument from me without one. And you're
00:31:06.940correct. It could go either way. I got to say that my trust in the establishment is completely gone.
00:31:15.160I see too much corruption and I see too much abuse. So all I'm going to do is try to set the
00:31:21.980record straight and one day at a time make progress. Well, you've certainly put your effort
00:31:28.660in to do so and I appreciate that and with your book. So, I mean, before I let you go,
00:31:32.600where can people find you? I know you have a busy online presence and of course you have your book
00:31:38.020available. Where can people get a copy? Well, people can get a copy on Amazon, Indigo. Vets
00:31:43.840for Freedom also carries it if people don't want to go through the major chains. I'm pretty active
00:31:50.080on Twitter, but that's about it because it's really hard to keep up on all the different
00:31:53.940social media platforms. So I usually just make tweets. Right now I'm working on several things
00:31:58.780in the in the background so i mean i want people to realize that that you know there are there is
00:32:05.100progress being made um i've been very unfortunate with this book in that uh you know i've had been
00:32:10.700on podcasts and uh certainly being on redacted really helped with the exposure and because of
00:32:15.900that i've been able to get this book into the hands of dozens of mps and and a senator um i'm
00:32:22.300also doing other things like i mentioned in the background with some of the updates that have gone
00:32:27.100on with with fismen and and and others and so um things are are moving along in the in the right
00:32:34.220direction even though i have to say that the government so far has not changed course and
00:32:40.540there does seem to be an effort to keep information um that goes against the narrative from actual
00:32:49.100mps and others uh just one thing that came out is is my my book was mentioned in the house of
00:32:54.300comments and there was even an order paper question about the funding of the study and
00:33:01.420anybody who reads uh my book and i also put out a supplementary that shows all the
00:33:07.820email and letter correspondence with cihr and cmaj so people know what i sent them so there
00:33:14.700was an order paper question that went to see to cihr asking whether they received any negative
00:33:20.780feedback about this study and they came back recently and said no and so right on the order
00:33:26.780paper question in the house that's an outright lie and now comes to like what's going on like
00:33:33.980are they trying to keep information from these politicians so the politicians can claim they
00:33:38.060don't know like it's it's very uh i think we have to get to the to the bottom of it for sure
00:33:46.300So I'm working on that. And there's also the big, big question as to how this whole media
00:33:53.500frenzy came out when this study was published, that it went to, you know, I think over 90 media
00:33:58.940outlets and over 100 articles were written right away. And who orchestrated that? Because it's very
00:34:04.780unusual for a scientific study to get that level of exposure. And as you know, when the study came
00:34:11.100out it was timely because you know that the liberal government was trying to find science
00:34:17.340to justify its extending its mandates and travel restrictions so there's a lot of questions that
00:34:22.940remain unanswered that uh we still need to find the answers for well we we appreciate your work
00:34:28.860and your in your book and your ongoing work so thank you very much for for coming on to talk to
00:34:33.340us about it today and uh i i look forward to hopefully at least trying to mitigate the harm
00:34:38.140and the next time this sort of thing happens.
00:36:02.100Yet Hustler covered it, of all magazines.
00:36:04.780And doctors eventually changed the name of it, actually, and they called it Gay Acquired Immune Deficiency, which got evolved quickly to AIDS.
00:36:25.720But it's sad that with something socially sensitive, we won't talk about the science.
00:36:31.700because there's where, what happened, Rock Hudson, that was the turning point. Rock Hudson
00:36:37.580is diagnosed with AIDS. He dies and suddenly it becomes a mainstream thing and everybody's talking
00:36:43.420about it. But what the media did and the world didn't, everybody turned around and said, this is
00:36:47.760everybody's disease. We've got to, and when I graduated high school by the end of the 80s,
00:36:51.300we were told every hetero person is going to know another hetero person who's HIV positive. This is
00:36:55.580where it's going. And we're going to do our preventative measures to make sure everybody,
00:36:58.620Because again, people were fearful socially speaking up about where the disease was actually
00:37:04.340hitting. It's not a prejudice to point out the reality was when that disease was emerging and
00:37:09.160all the way through the course of it, it was predominantly among gay men and intravenous drug0.94
00:37:16.320users. It's not actually that easy a disease to transmit, thankfully, but still it was devastating
00:37:21.440to those communities. It was terrible. And if we'd have properly dedicated though our resources and
00:37:27.540looked at where it's really hitting. Spend that money to work on educating the gay community
00:37:33.460and reduce the amount of people who died and got infected because we were sitting here wasting
00:37:37.640money chasing after heterosexual high school kids when it was actually gay men we should be0.93
00:37:43.000targeting to save their lives. We wasted the resources though pretending it's everybody's
00:37:47.380disease. Doesn't it sound familiar though when the early rumblings like I was talking about before
00:37:53.060with Regina about, we knew it was senior citizens, we knew it was vulnerable people,
00:37:59.040we knew it was diabetics, we knew it was obese people, that COVID is hurting, and it's not0.96
00:38:02.960harming the others. So why pretend that it's everybody's disease? Instead, we should focus
00:38:08.720on who's most vulnerable, because when we do that, we can better reduce the onslaught and
00:38:14.900the problems from it. So I mean, you know, it never changed. I mean, the AIDS still remain,
00:38:20.740know, we've gotten it much under control compared to how it was, thank God. But we could have done
00:38:25.700a heck of a lot better job if people would actually paid attention to it. And again,
00:38:30.640statistically, looking at really who it's hitting and how and why. But we let political agendas and
00:38:37.940political correctness guide our treatment of that terrible disease with COVID and AIDS. And it cost
00:38:45.340lives. Let's look at it realistically. That's why I'm saying let's talk to statisticians. Let's look
00:38:50.660at the numbers. That's what gives us the tail, especially when we have hindsight. So if emerging
00:38:57.240diseases come out in the future, let's look at who it's hitting. And let's target who's most
00:39:02.540vulnerable. Let's hope it's not everybody. But I'm sick of media and experts and others pretending
00:39:09.680every disease is everybody's problem. It's not. We really should have done more to protect our
00:39:14.920seniors during the point of COVID to protect people with other comorbidities. We had the
00:39:21.100numbers very early. And even to the end, kids were virtually immune. They should have still
00:39:24.900been going to school. We had something where the best things you could do is get out and into
00:39:30.520fresh air. What would they do? They were closing playgrounds, the morons. They were assaulting
00:39:34.860kids playing hockey who were never at risk. Literally, we saw that in Calgary with the
00:39:38.740cops tackling a kid for daring to play on an outdoor rink, for doing a healthy outdoor activity,
00:39:43.180healthy socially and physically. That's how stupid we were through this. Stupid. So let's learn from
00:39:49.800it. Let's learn from it. And yeah, keep your alternate media going. Because like I said,
00:39:55.440to give a little bit of credit to Hustler, aside from their pornographic images, they were actually
00:40:00.900one of the first magazines with the courage to at least even report on this issue. This should
00:40:04.680have been reported in mainstream magazines and newspapers years before that. But nobody had the
00:40:10.320courage because they were too scared of social issues. Well, alternative media was actually
00:40:15.140helping people in some ways, and it was helping lonely men as well. But back in those days,
00:40:19.480and now alternative media is here. The Western Standard doesn't put pornographic images up,
00:40:22.880but we will talk about issues that the mainstream media is afraid to. So Dave mentioned ACERT
00:40:28.020earlier when he was giving the news update and protests on protests and things like that
00:40:34.240over the cop shooting. That's the Alberta serious incident reporting. It's when there's a police
00:40:39.900incident that gets violent. And it looks like now we're hearing talk with the protests that
00:40:44.440got torn down in Calgary and Edmonton. It's like Alberta is leading the country in something.
00:40:51.060I'll be kind enough to call them pro-Palestine, but in reality, they're typically now pro-Hamas.0.87
00:40:55.520I mean, they're celebrating October 7th. It's disgusting. But either way,
00:40:58.800these university protests were setting up and Alberta got up and said, no, that's not happening.
00:41:06.620And within a week, I think it took two weeks in Edmonton, it took like three days in Calgary, the police moved in and they removed the encampments.
00:43:29.660Pardon me, sir. Could I please ask you to leave the camp? They're not going to. These police have to wear pads. They have to wear face shields. They have to keep a shield up because these idiots are throwing rocks. Yeah, they love throwing rocks, these Gazan types, don't they? And bottles and you name it at them. They have to protect themselves. They have to stay safe. And yes, I've seen it. I've gone to protests where the police march forward and they bang their shields when they're going. And the radio host I was listening to, such an intimidation tactic. Yes, that's exactly what it is. You jerk, you moron.0.83
00:43:59.660because it's better to get them afraid, saying, you know what? I don't like this. I'm going to
00:44:04.180get up and I'm just going to leave rather than force the police to grab me and drag me out of
00:44:08.180here. So yes, the police do purposely intimidate. They do purposely look tough when they approach
00:44:15.480these encampments. It's for the safety of the police and it's for the safety of actually the
00:44:21.720people protesting because if you would just get out of the damn way, you've been warned.0.73
00:44:25.120if you don't then it's probably going to get a little rough and they weren't that rough
00:44:29.840they weren't they got some pepper in their eyes and uh some flash bangs went they disorient people
00:44:36.600they make a big noise they scare them and they get them out of the way but uh to listen to the
00:44:42.500media talking about like what do you want what do you really want so we're supposed to let these
00:44:46.060guys set up a permanent camp sitting around there for in perpetuity and i'll be fair i see linda
00:44:51.600a comment or say rough police were at the truckers convoy. That's true. That because they were also
00:44:56.180removing people who had been warned over and over and over again, it was time to leave. We can debate
00:45:00.240whether or not the truckers convoy protests should have been ordered to leave.
00:45:06.780I honestly, I've talked about this and I know people get upset with me. I support the protest.
00:45:11.960I supported the initial part of it. But when you get these protests coming, you can't just entrench
00:45:16.240and block entire roads and stay permanent.
00:45:42.020And when the police do it, they won't do it nicely.
00:45:46.240Thankfully. It says a lot, though, about the trucker's convoy when the police did move in and there were some bad incidents with the horses and other things. But for the most part, they were sane people who realized and they were ticked off. They didn't want to be removed and they had to be kind of pushed back. But they didn't throw the bottles and attack the police and really cause heavy duty riots.
00:46:04.640Part of the reason, too, though, is because you have a large police force there in the