Western Standard - CMS： 15-Minute cities. The latest WEF push.

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00:00:30.000 good day it is february 8th 2023 it's a wednesday welcome to the cory morgan show i am cory morgan

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00:01:19.480 lots of lefties to go after. I got a good show today coming up. I'm going to be speaking to

00:01:23.400 litigation director Alan Hohner. He's of the Democracy Fund and they've got a lawsuit up

00:01:29.240 against the government on the Arrive campaign. Sounds like the government's trying to dismiss

00:01:32.660 the suit saying, well, we got rid of it so it doesn't matter anymore. Well, yeah, but if the

00:01:38.100 crime's already been done, it doesn't mean you stop following up on it. I mean, if indeed it was a crime,

00:01:42.280 I guess you could say, but we're going to talk to them about that suit. And of course, there'll be

00:01:46.520 lots of news and other items I'll be checking in with our news. News editor, Dave Naylor.

00:01:53.160 We're going to get some stories going there.

00:01:55.420 And of course, I'll rant about some stuff.

00:01:56.900 So you probably saw the title there, and that's what I want to get going and talking about.

00:02:00.540 We're hearing a lot about that in the news.

00:02:03.180 And that's the concept of 15-minute cities.

00:02:06.460 And that concept has been around and making news around the world as we've got these authoritarian-minded city planners and urbanists pushing this plan in the developed world.

00:02:15.660 Now, the notion of 15-minute cities isn't new.

00:02:18.620 And ideologically driven bureaucrats and politicians have been trying to implement this sort of thing for quite some time now.

00:02:24.220 With the World Economic Forum, though, jumping on and promoting the conception,

00:02:27.360 people are finally sounding the alarm bells on the concept, and they should.

00:02:30.900 Now, no, we're not going to see walled World War II-style ghettos being erected in cities,

00:02:34.900 as some alarmists have been claiming.

00:02:37.000 Existing neighborhoods aren't going to be bulldozed to create packed, roadless communities either.

00:02:41.020 But the 15-minute city plans, they're more subtle, and they'll typically be implemented incrementally.

00:02:46.700 Cities embracing the plan will cause those significant economic and social damages.

00:02:50.540 They try to create impossible urban utopias, and adherence to the ideology will become

00:02:55.560 ever more forceful as citizens reject these plans.

00:02:58.520 So what are these 15-minute cities anyways?

00:03:00.960 Well, a 15-minute city is a planned community where any and all services can be reached

00:03:06.280 through walking or bicycling within 15 minutes or less.

00:03:09.680 A simple and nice-sounding concept on the surface for those who don't like the idea

00:03:13.840 of traveling, and I guess we're in good enough shape to get around. The problem is the whole

00:03:18.300 concept's a pile of unworkable, idealistic hogwash, particularly in North America. I mean, to make a

00:03:24.540 15-minute city viable, the urban density has to be far higher than pretty much any city in North

00:03:30.160 America offers. Having employment, schools, groceries, entertainment, and government services

00:03:36.140 all available within a 15-minute walk or bicycle ride means packing a whole lot of people into a

00:03:41.000 small area to sustain those services. And while proponents like to point to some trendy communities

00:03:46.060 and cities that are packed with restaurants and stores and services within walking distance,

00:03:49.800 these communities also have extremely expensive real estate and the small specialty stores and

00:03:54.620 services charge high prices to maintain themselves. Cost of living is challenging enough for people

00:03:59.540 already. Whether you like them or not, big box stores help keep necessities affordable for people.

00:04:04.620 So love or hate retailers like Walmart, Superstore, and Home Depot, it can't be denied they keep their

00:04:09.440 prices low to their size and taking advantage of economies of scale. Now, how many of those big

00:04:13.880 box stores would it take to be within a 15-minute walk or bike ride in every part of the city?

00:04:19.660 Likewise, the government services can't be everywhere. Government services are expensive

00:04:23.000 and inefficient enough as it is. So how would you like to have a passport office every 10 blocks or

00:04:27.280 so? Come on, guys, this isn't reasonable. Now, if some of the proponents like to point to cities

00:04:31.000 like Paris and Shanghai and New York as examples to follow, well, all of these cities, for one

00:04:36.740 thing, I mean, some of them are ancient. The other thing is they're already high-density environments.

00:04:40.640 And then look at the cost of living. What's it cost to rent an apartment in Manhattan these days

00:04:44.920 if you can afford to even find one? What, six, seven thousand a month? Come on. Most North

00:04:49.540 American cities as well have six-month winters where walking and bicycling can be uncomfortable,

00:04:53.860 if not impossible. Imagine how it would be for seniors. But density zealots, they ignore that

00:04:59.120 reality. The biggest obstacle for those who want to see 15-minute cities, though, is consumer demand.

00:05:04.460 People just don't want to live in them, especially after a pandemic that drove people into working

00:05:08.280 from home and living in the suburbs.

00:05:10.000 And that's what ends up driving the authoritarian streak.

00:05:12.340 And that's when it gets dangerous.

00:05:13.360 If people don't want to live in high-density ghettos, then, well, they'll need to be encouraged, 1.00

00:05:17.200 right?

00:05:17.600 That encouragement, of course, usually comes in the form of taxing or penalizing and demonizing

00:05:21.780 people living in suburbs or driving automobiles.

00:05:24.940 Progressively run cities are pursuing charters and legislation to reach out and force density

00:05:29.480 standards on neighboring communities.

00:05:31.280 They won't block people from leaving, but they want to create a regulatory form of an iron curtain

00:05:35.320 to make sure that if people leave, they won't find life any better anywhere else.

00:05:39.420 The goal of 15-minute cities isn't to make the world a greener place

00:05:42.680 or to pursue some kind of societal equity, though, of course, that's what they always like to claim.

00:05:46.560 No, the goal is control.

00:05:48.320 That's why the World Economic Forum likes it.

00:05:50.200 The main enemy for authoritarians in this thing is the personal automobile.

00:05:54.480 It empowers individuals and allows them to escape urban living.

00:05:58.060 Residents locked into high-density communities

00:06:00.220 who are dependent on public transit

00:06:01.960 are under the thumb of the state.

00:06:03.920 It's easy to control people

00:06:05.260 when you can control their ability to move.

00:06:07.200 That's why 15-minute cities hold such appeal

00:06:09.100 for authoritarians with a WEF.

00:06:11.280 Just think of how effective a social credit policy

00:06:13.800 of citizen control could be

00:06:15.000 if citizens are completely dependent

00:06:16.720 on the state for their movement.

00:06:18.580 Cashless, carless, and living in a crammed enclave,

00:06:21.300 citizens would truly live by the whim of the state.

00:06:24.480 A nightmare for free-thinking individuals,

00:06:26.260 but a wet dream for elitist authoritarians who envision themselves, of course, at the top of the

00:06:30.840 pile. Of course, as with every socialist paradise, the political elites won't live among the masses

00:06:35.860 in those ghettos. We need only to look at the way things turned out in the Soviet Union and how that 0.93

00:06:40.380 all ironed out. You know, long row houses where the political elite, though, lived outside of the city

00:06:45.380 in some nice acreages. The 15-minute cities will fail, but the ideologues pushing those concepts

00:06:51.720 could push us all to the brink of bankruptcy and trying to make them work. The only question is,

00:06:56.260 How far are we going to let them go before we push back?

00:06:58.820 How long will we keep electing progressive adherence to the WEF agenda

00:07:03.080 and, you know, putting them into positions of municipal leadership?

00:07:07.560 Yesterday's conspiracies keep turning into today's realities.

00:07:10.620 We can't bury our heads in the sand on what the push for 15-minute cities is all about.

00:07:15.320 So, yes, it's time to start talking about these things.

00:07:18.240 So that's what's got me going on that one today, guys.

00:07:21.020 Yeah, watch for it.

00:07:22.220 We're going to be hearing a lot more about it.

00:07:23.480 I mean, every time they hit the wall on one area of control or another, they switch and come at it from another direction.

00:07:29.420 So the 15-minute cities, well, it's just the latest one.

00:07:32.420 All right.

00:07:32.900 Well, let's check in with our news editor, Dave Naylor, and see what's going on out there.

00:07:37.120 Hey, Dave, how's it going?

00:07:38.980 It's going well, Corey.

00:07:40.060 Hey, a long time since you and I have talked.

00:07:42.220 The last time we communicated was when you were having Jane change your trailer tire down in the States.

00:07:49.880 That was good.

00:07:51.160 Well, it's good to have a strong, handy woman like that. 1.00

00:07:54.260 You know, Jane puts up with a lot of me out of me.

00:07:56.900 And, you know, yeah, she's good with a lug wrench. 1.00

00:08:01.720 And congratulations on the book.

00:08:05.260 I'm halfway through it.

00:08:06.440 It's a great read and glad to hear it's flying off the shelves.

00:08:10.900 It's going quite well.

00:08:12.080 I seem to have found a niche there with that.

00:08:13.840 Thanks.

00:08:14.220 Yeah, we'll keep pushing that for a while too, of course.

00:08:17.220 Okay, this is where you get the opportunity to plug your book,

00:08:20.120 Oh, I know. I don't like to be too self-serving. But what Dave is referencing is the Sovereignist's Handbook. And if you go to gvlbooks.com, you can find a copy there, links for digital copies or paper copy to come to your place.

00:08:33.460 Nico's putting the picture up there. Yeah, we were shipping like crazy last week. They're going very well. If you're looking to, it's not so much why the West should be independent, it's how we're going to get there, guys.

00:08:43.640 It talks about how to take part in political parties and be an effective activist.

00:08:48.280 But enough self-serving stuff.

00:08:49.640 Dave, what else have we got going on in the news there?

00:08:53.920 I got to tell the listeners and the viewers, Corey, though, you're only coming in the office once a week now.

00:09:00.180 And you're, you know, best-selling author.

00:09:02.080 You're treated like a rock star.

00:09:04.320 The lovely Regina greets you with, you know, piping hot tater tots every week.

00:09:09.400 And, oh, man, you've got the life going.

00:09:11.620 Anyway.

00:09:11.900 i thought that thing was all every day i didn't realize it was just when i came in

00:09:15.820 no it's just for you buddy uh on with the news a terrible and uh disturbing story out of quebec

00:09:22.300 this morning where a deranged man has has driven a city transit bus into a daycare

00:09:34.220 several others just a terrible story uh when he got out of the bus the driver had

00:09:39.500 had taken all his clothes off and the, you know, some parents at the daycare had to tackle him

00:09:47.180 and sat on him until the police arrived. But just a terrible, terrible story. And, you know,

00:09:52.620 you just have to shake your head at what's happening in society these days. On the opinion

00:09:58.220 side, we've got a column from Mr. Forsyth, who is urging the woke people who are urging

00:10:06.900 conservatives to tell the woke people where to go. We've got some more on the fallout from the

00:10:13.300 Danielle Smith trip to Ottawa. She met with the Alberta caucus today, a conservative caucus, and

00:10:20.980 came away very impressed with Pierre Polyev's team down there. I know your guest is going to

00:10:27.620 be talking about it, but the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms,

00:10:31.700 class action suit against the federal government for the arrive cam app debacle and we've got

00:10:43.200 a renowned psychologist jordan peterson if you remember he's been ordered to undergo

00:10:48.800 retraining for social media he's basically refused to do it and he says come on let's do it either

00:10:55.160 you know piss or get off the pot either take me to court or let's just forget this fiasco 0.70

00:11:00.940 So we got some good stuff coming up momentarily, Corey.

00:11:06.040 Just about to publish or press the publish button on a church of England looking to de-gender God.

00:11:14.960 They're looking to take all references to God being a he out of scriptures and prayers.

00:11:23.100 And BC has announced Truth and Reconciliation Day.

00:11:26.500 Next year will be a statutory holiday, which means Reid Small and Mike Damore out in BC will be happy with that.

00:11:34.720 And those of us in Alberta will be waiting for that to be brought here.

00:11:39.560 So a really busy day.

00:11:41.320 We're going to keep on top of that terrible story in Quebec at the daycare.

00:11:48.100 And I should mention David Creighton.

00:11:50.020 He's got a good column up this morning about the handshake, the strange handshake between Justin Trudeau and Daniel Smith yesterday.

00:12:00.760 If you look at our photo evidence, left a mark on Premier Smith's stand.

00:12:04.900 So lots on the website this morning and lots coming up this afternoon, Corey.

00:12:10.220 All right. Well, that's quite something with the degendering of God with the Church of England.

00:12:14.260 I mean, would they be going up there and, you know, like cutting the holy balls off or something like that? 0.65

00:12:18.000 or would we have a transgender God?

00:12:20.560 How would that work for people who follow that church, I wonder?

00:12:23.240 Well, I don't think we talk about the holy balls on this show.

00:12:27.060 Well, I'll write a monologue about it for a future episode.

00:12:30.340 All right.

00:12:30.860 Well, thanks.

00:12:31.940 You know, this de-gendering stuff is sweeping the world.

00:12:36.700 You know, it's kind of crazy.

00:12:39.980 It is.

00:12:40.580 It is.

00:12:41.140 Well, it gives us lots to write about anyways.

00:12:43.020 Thanks, Dave.

00:12:43.540 I'll talk to you after the show.

00:12:45.220 Thanks, Corey.

00:12:46.700 All right.

00:12:47.100 So as you heard, yes, there is a lot breaking, guys, and a lot more coming out.

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00:13:29.020 yet, get on there guys, come on. It's worth it. All right. Let's see. I'm just having a look

00:13:33.500 around some of these, these, uh, uh, comments here. Tim Burns, you know, talking about the,

00:13:38.280 the 15 minute cities. Yeah. Like building a fence around rabbits, you know, slowly. So they don't

00:13:42.500 notice that's what i mean it is incremental right they slowly but surely do these things

00:13:46.260 and uh you know shelly pointing out groceries yes it's difficult you know but things like that

00:13:51.660 um it's great if you're a hipster with no kids who's gonna walk and you want to go to the little

00:13:58.980 grocery store down the street and get your fresh veggies and walk home and hit the little specialty

00:14:03.880 mom and pop clothing store good for you and and uh the saxton of riverstone one of the commenters

00:14:09.000 Calgary has these 15 minute communities. Yeah, they kind of are, you know, little communities

00:14:12.100 like Marta Loop and Kensington, you could sort of do, but they're just trendy, small communities

00:14:17.580 and they're voluntary. These are for people with means who are in good physical shape and usually

00:14:22.320 don't have large families they got to deal with. Think about, you know, trying to stuff a large

00:14:26.900 population affordably within 15 minutes. We're not talking about a 15 minute drive. We're talking

00:14:31.320 walking or bicycling to get all these services. It's ridiculous, but they will really mess us

00:14:38.480 up trying and i think they know what's ridiculous but they still they can keep pushing and pushing

00:14:44.380 and again you get more and more control as i said it's about control it always comes down to control

00:14:48.780 in the end so pay attention guys and push back you know it's one of those things municipally i

00:14:53.460 mean i was talking um not enough people take part in politics or pay attention to them watch the

00:14:58.940 municipal ones guys they've been sliding under the radar they're crazier than any of our federal

00:15:03.580 provincial politicians and that bunch are already pretty crazy to begin with but that's because we

00:15:07.640 don't vote. We don't get out. I mean, municipal election turnouts are typically terrible, especially

00:15:12.980 if it's incumbents running. I think one of the ones where Ninchy got reelected, it was something

00:15:16.720 like 20% of Calgarians came out. Guys, and this is in every city, not just Calgary. You've got to

00:15:22.500 pay attention because this is how they're sneaking under the radar. If you were paying attention,

00:15:26.160 they wouldn't get away with this stuff. But they've realized, and that's why the true progressive

00:15:30.740 whack jobs managed to get in in the municipal elections because they realized that smart

00:15:36.120 thinking voters aren't watching. So they slip in. Stop it, guys, because it's going to get

00:15:40.700 really expensive and really ugly. Yeah, you know, Shelley Thomas saying nothing to say about the 1.00

00:15:48.160 illegal bylaws being forced to use urban dwellers and landowners. You can only own two chickens,

00:15:52.280 no more than five. Yeah, you know, some of the, it gets difficult. And that's some of the problems

00:15:57.240 that come with high density. The higher the density living, the more the regulation ends

00:16:01.280 up coming in, though, to make sure people aren't at each other's throats, or sometimes it makes it

00:16:05.280 worse. I mean, the days of walking over and talking to your neighbor and saying, hey, you know, can we

00:16:10.320 agree on something? Can we do something? Those have gone away. Now it's call 311 and get the city to

00:16:15.800 intervene on your behalf. Start a fight. Start a new rule. Bring in a new regulation. You know that

00:16:20.880 the days of being one-on-one as neighbors, they're gone. Now, imagine again, jammed into 15-minute

00:16:27.420 cities, high-rises stuffed in together. You think condo boards are bad? Wait until you get a government

00:16:32.640 group running it. I mean, it's not a living that most people want. But as I said, that's where the

00:16:38.900 big falling out comes. It's in Alberta, and we see that in all sorts of cities, they want city

00:16:44.120 charters. And what they really wanted here, and I live just outside the city on an acreage, and I

00:16:48.920 fear it a lot with what they're always pushing for these municipal regional development plans,

00:16:54.320 because they need to cork the bottle. They don't want people like me and the thousands and thousands

00:16:59.040 of others who've been escaping and getting the hell out of these rotten governed cities

00:17:02.680 and buying their own places. So if they can get these regional plans in place, people will realize

00:17:07.080 I'm no better off getting out of the city than staying. So they're hoping people will stay.

00:17:11.440 The reality is people will just migrate outward further. I mean, we see the vacancy rates in

00:17:15.660 downtown Calgary and other areas to see how that's happening. But again, this is always comes down to

00:17:20.440 the same thing with socialists. I mean, you never saw capitalist countries having to erect iron

00:17:24.360 curtains. You didn't see anybody swimming from Miami to Havana. They're always trying to escape

00:17:29.680 out of those places. Nobody was climbing over a wall and barbed wire to get into East Berlin.

00:17:36.060 But again, that's what they realized. They have to take away consumer choice. And that's what I

00:17:40.780 got back to with the original monologue, though. The personal automobile, their hatred of the

00:17:45.020 personal automobile isn't just an environmentally based thing. It isn't just that they're not green

00:17:50.380 and we're having emissions from these personally owned autos.

00:17:52.840 No, because these autos are empowering.

00:17:55.600 You can afford to get out of their planned neighborhoods.

00:17:58.060 You can afford to choose multiple employments,

00:18:00.420 multiple places to live, whatever you like.

00:18:02.340 You have power if you have that auto.

00:18:04.420 If you don't have it, you're very dependent all of a sudden.

00:18:08.360 And of course, there's nothing authoritarians like more

00:18:11.760 than a dependent population.

00:18:13.420 Okay, we're gonna get on and talk about

00:18:14.660 the overreach of authoritarianism

00:18:16.780 and that's with the Arrive Can app.

00:18:18.500 We all remember that debacle, that wretched thing that hounded and harassed travelers for quite some time.

00:18:24.120 Cost a fortune.

00:18:25.380 And the fallout from that thing is still going on.

00:18:28.900 Lawsuits are pushing back, though the federal government seems to think that there's nothing to be settled.

00:18:33.060 I suspect my guest is going to have a different opinion on that.

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00:19:06.580 all right mr honor thank you very much for for joining me today i know some people are

00:19:14.380 kind of looking at the arrive can thing in the rearview mirror but we you know it's uh

00:19:18.680 it was a policy that really had some impact on a lot of people and uh we can't let them just get

00:19:23.900 away with it and push it under the rug so perhaps just as a start if you could introduce yourself

00:19:28.800 you're the litigation director with the democracy fund and and you're following up on the arrive can

00:19:33.500 That's right, Corey. It's a pleasure to be here. I am the litigation director at the

00:19:38.700 Democracy Fund. We are a civil liberties organization. We're a charity and we challenge

00:19:45.420 the government when we suspect there have been charter breaches or civil rights violations.

00:19:50.380 And we did that with ARRIVECAN back in August of 2022. Now, as you probably know, Corey,

00:19:59.660 about a month after we brought that application, the federal government rescinded all COVID-19

00:20:06.560 related border measures. What they're now trying to do is to say that because they've rescinded

00:20:12.820 all those measures, our application, our court challenge is moot because there's nothing left

00:20:18.500 to decide, but we don't agree with that. Well, no, I mean, you still, just because you stopped

00:20:24.140 doing it. I mean, if I'm doing something wrong and I've been doing it for a long period of time,

00:20:27.480 say it was criminal. I mean, we're not talking about a criminal thing in this, but if that was

00:20:31.520 the case, you don't say, oh, well, I've stopped doing it. So you don't need to pursue charges any

00:20:35.020 further. Well, no, the act was still committed and there still has to be some consequences or

00:20:38.900 follow-up on what happened. I mean, for them to just say, well, we've turned the page, we can

00:20:42.700 forget about it. It sounds pretty unreasonable. That's right. And you know, Corey, if there is

00:20:48.560 a charter breach happening, if there is a breach to your privacy rights under section seven and

00:20:55.200 aid of the charter the fact that that information has been compelled under threat of constant of

00:21:01.200 prosecution and it's it's being retained and retained indefinitely and potentially shared

00:21:08.240 the constitute in constitutes at least in our view an ongoing breach this is not something

00:21:15.520 it's not the sort of thing that the government can fix by simply rescinding the arrive can requirement

00:21:25.200 So where is your action at this point then?

00:21:28.220 Is you making an application to a court or it's already in progress?

00:21:32.000 Where are things sitting right now?

00:21:33.500 Well, it's already in progress.

00:21:35.020 As I said, we issued the application with the Federal Court of Canada.

00:21:38.980 That was in August of 2022.

00:21:41.880 But because the measures were rescinded shortly after that,

00:21:46.920 we're now appearing before a court to argue whether or not our application should proceed.

00:21:53.780 So that's where we are. But Corey, there's another part of our application. And I think

00:21:59.380 this hasn't been really widely discussed in mainstream media or very much at all. And that

00:22:05.700 is the question of whether ArriveCAN was actually legally required of persons traveling the border,

00:22:12.660 at least for part of that period from October 2020, when they first started the requirement

00:22:18.580 up until October 2022 when it was rescinded and that's one of the things that's very unique about

00:22:24.740 our application. We're actually saying that for a period of time there ARRIVECAN was not the law

00:22:32.100 because the government made a mistake or if it was the law they haven't been transparent about

00:22:37.060 it and we're asking them to prove to us that they've taken the requisite steps under the

00:22:43.140 order in orders and council to make arrive can legally binding yeah well a lot of pandemic

00:22:49.220 measures i mean they certainly use the justification of an emergency to bring in orders in council and

00:22:54.260 things to slide under the radar so they wouldn't face the scrutiny of our legislators before they

00:22:58.820 got brought into place which i i believe yeah it does make it all the more important then if we

00:23:02.740 couldn't do it at that time then we should be giving these these actions and measures scrutiny

00:23:06.580 now rather than saying you know well it's just a done deal right corey you bring up a very

00:23:12.340 important point in that point is that arrive can was not passed into law in the ordinary way that

00:23:19.380 we were used to right we're used to laws being passed um by the legislative legislative branches

00:23:28.180 of government after some debate in the legislature or in parliament but arrive can came about in a

00:23:33.940 very strange way and if you'll indulge me for just a moment here we have legislations called

00:23:40.500 the quarantine act and under the quarantine act the governor and council can make um certain orders

00:23:46.820 if they're satisfied certain conditions exist with respect to a communicable disease and they did that

00:23:53.700 and they they they issued these orders in council from october 2020 to october 2022

00:24:00.980 these are supposed to be the origins of arrive can this is supposed to be the legal um foundation

00:24:06.900 for ArriveCAN, but here's the problem, Corey. Those orders don't mention ArriveCAN. You will

00:24:13.100 not find the word ArriveCAN anywhere in those orders. Those orders only say that the Minister

00:24:20.020 of Health will specify an electronic means by which certain information must be provided.

00:24:26.980 Where did the Minister of Health do that? That's one of the questions we have for him.

00:24:32.860 And you have that document, I believe you sent it to us from the Public Health Agency of Canada.

00:24:37.980 So I mean, it's documented with this unusual measure and move with what they've done.

00:24:45.740 I imagine it would take the power of the court to start making them explain themselves on this.

00:24:49.740 Right. And this document is critically important, Corey, because if you look at the bottom of that

00:24:55.100 document i don't know if you can see it but it's dated november 26 2021 now this is a document

00:25:02.780 where the designate of the minister of health is specifying elect arrive can as the electronic

00:25:09.260 means required in the orders but it's a year late they were supposed to make this specification in

00:25:16.460 november of 2020 and i can't find any other document like this anywhere in which the minister

00:25:23.420 of health or his designate specifies arrive can and i can be proved wrong but i don't think it

00:25:32.460 exists so just onto i want to kind of turn a little bit you'd mention on on the way uh your

00:25:39.820 organization's kind of got a unique approach to it i'm just wondering the jccf just announced that

00:25:44.620 they're uh launching a some sort of legal action with regards to the arrive can uh app as well are

00:25:50.380 Are you guys working in conjunction or these parallel sort of actions?

00:25:54.700 I mean, is it kind of the more the merrier on this?

00:25:58.100 I'm just wondering what's going on.

00:26:00.280 I didn't really see the JCCF one too closely because that just came out.

00:26:03.980 Well, so the answer is yes and no.

00:26:06.280 We're great fans of the JCCF at the Democracy Fund.

00:26:09.180 We both issued our RiveCAN applications separately, but on or about the same day.

00:26:15.360 And they have been joined up by the Federal Court of Canada because they do that for a variety of reasons.

00:26:22.140 Because if two people challenge the same law, they want to make sure that the decisions are consistent.

00:26:27.600 So in that way, we are together with the JCCF.

00:26:31.640 But I also understand that the JCCF has now filed a lawsuit for damages relating to Arrive Can.

00:26:39.220 And that is not something that we have any part of, but we wish them the best of luck with it.

00:26:44.300 Yeah. So that's something I wanted to move on to, you know, was asking you, what are you seeking from the government? So, I mean, if not damages, then just, I guess, a ruling to at least sanction the government or to at least, you know, state that this, there was things done incorrectly or violating people's charter rights?

00:27:02.080 we're seeing declarations but there's there's an important point here because if we're right

00:27:10.120 that arrive can wasn't properly specified between november 2020 and november 2021

00:27:15.480 it means that anybody who's charged with it um shouldn't have been and that any tickets that

00:27:23.080 they were issued they shouldn't have been prosecuted for and those people will have

00:27:28.360 a great defense if we're right, and they will possibly also have some other recourse if they've

00:27:34.220 paid the fines. There's also a question about what happens with people who were compelled to

00:27:41.640 provide their information under threat of prosecution to the Minister of Health through

00:27:47.660 a RIVCAN. If a RIVCAN wasn't the law for that period of time we're discussing,

00:27:52.980 then that's an unreasonable search. It's an unreasonable seizure.

00:27:58.360 Yeah, I mean, boy, you know, it just gets so convoluted.

00:28:02.380 I mean, we really suspended our protections and our means of properly, you know, creating and applying laws throughout this.

00:28:11.920 And as you said, were there a large number of people who faced then some charges or fines or sanctions because of not using a Rivecan or not properly, as far as the government's concerned, taking part in it?

00:28:22.040 Well, the government has said, at least they've told the CBC, that about 190 people have been directly charged with not using a Rivecan when they cross the Canadian border.

00:28:36.940 That was in August of 2022, so I don't know if there were others charged after that.

00:28:41.760 I don't have that information.

00:28:44.160 But these charges are significant.

00:28:46.520 They're over $5,000, in some cases over $6,000.

00:28:49.340 dollars. Well yeah I mean that's a very serious sanction against somebody I mean even if well

00:28:56.200 even if they do have the means to shrug that off I think most of us don't it's certainly a matter

00:29:00.560 of principle again especially if you were charged with something that wasn't actually a law I mean

00:29:04.740 it's kind of bizarre. Right so you know we and and let's get back to that point of whether or not it

00:29:11.600 was the law because you know Corey I can't find it I've looked for it I have made requests to the

00:29:18.440 I've made requests to the Deputy Minister of Health.

00:29:21.440 I've made requests to the Public Health Agency of Canada.

00:29:25.440 I have asked lawyers for the Attorney General to get me the proof that ArriveCan was specified as the electronic means by which people have to provide this information.

00:29:36.440 Back in November of 2020, nobody's giving it to me.

00:29:40.440 And that's one of the things we're trying to get out of this lawsuit.

00:29:43.440 We're trying to get that proof.

00:29:45.440 Now, the government could very easily refute me.

00:29:47.440 me. They could just give me the information that I've been asking for. But why is it so hard to

00:29:51.900 find? Why won't they give it to me? Well, so I mean, can the courts compel the government to come

00:29:58.500 up with these? We know the government, if they don't want to provide documents, boy, they can

00:30:01.840 sure twist themselves into knots and make up reasons for public health or security or whatever

00:30:06.400 reason as to why we don't deserve to know what they actually did. Well, I'll put it to you this

00:30:11.500 way, Gori, if the Minister of Health succeeds in having our application struck for mootness,

00:30:18.700 they won't have to give us that information, not through this court proceeding anyway,

00:30:23.840 but we will find some way to get it. Well, I don't doubt it. Your organization and yourself

00:30:29.960 have been very persistent on this and other issues and some of your testimony in other areas

00:30:35.620 on this whole pandemic thing. I mean, we're in the phase, I think the government really wants us all

00:30:39.960 forget about it. Hopefully we'll see what comes out from the RULO report and they'll want to

00:30:46.920 pretend it's all done with. But boy, we turned our nation upside down for three years. I want

00:30:51.400 some answers. I'm certain a lot more Canadians do as well. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more.

00:30:58.040 It seems like a right hand is just one of the many things that have gone wrong with our nation

00:31:06.120 since 2020. And at least I think it's one of the main things that have gone wrong with our nation.

00:31:15.720 And I'd like some answers and some accountability for what seems to me to be

00:31:22.440 an unprecedented disregard of our rights.

00:31:24.760 Yeah. So what sort of timeline are you looking at right now? I mean,

00:31:29.000 the courts can, of course, can be agonizingly slow. You've been in the process for some time

00:31:33.080 already? Is there some resolution in sight down the road?

00:31:38.840 Well, so what's happening now, it's a motion. And a motion is when one of the parties asks

00:31:43.720 the court to do something. In this case, the attorney general is asking the court to strike

00:31:49.080 our application. So to make it go away entirely, they've had to file materials. They've done that.

00:31:55.240 We filed responding materials. If anybody wants to see them, they can go to our website, which is

00:32:01.400 the democracyfund.ca and now the attorney general will have a chance to respond to us.

00:32:09.240 I think they have until February the 15th to do that and then the court will make a decision and

00:32:15.320 if they decide the application is moot that's the end of it. If they don't decide that the

00:32:20.440 application is moot but that it can proceed then we'll get a disclosure and we'll go on to argue

00:32:27.320 the merits of the application.

00:32:29.800 Yeah, so while I've got you, the Democracy Fund, you guys have other actions and items that you're

00:32:36.120 working on as well. What other things have you guys got on your plate right now?

00:32:41.240 Well, we just wrapped up the public order emergency inquiry as you referred to. We're

00:32:48.040 representing dozens of people who have been criminally charged with respect to the freedom

00:32:56.600 convoy protests across Canada. We have probably a couple of thousand at least individuals who

00:33:05.500 are representing have been charged with quarantine act offenses or other COVID-related measures

00:33:10.040 across the country. And, you know, we represent other people as well, sometimes through our

00:33:16.560 in-house counsel, sometimes through trusted counsel whom we use. Recently, we were defending

00:33:24.200 pastor Arthur Pavlovsky before the courts in Alberta, and Sarah Miller was our lawyer for that.

00:33:34.000 Great. Well, so, I mean, you mentioned it's democracyfund.ca, and that's where people can

00:33:39.540 reach out to you. I mean, if they need legal representation or if they want to support you

00:33:42.660 guys and your work, are there other areas where they can help you guys out?

00:33:47.200 Well, you know, I think that's it. We're an organization that doesn't take any money from

00:33:52.400 the government, if they would like to support us, we always appreciate that because that's the only

00:33:58.100 way we can do our work. If somebody has a legal problem and it falls within our mandate as a

00:34:04.660 charity, then we'll look at that problem and we'll see if we can help. Great. Well, I really

00:34:11.160 appreciate you coming on to talk to us today about what you guys have been doing. And I do

00:34:14.400 appreciate the work you're doing. Organizations like yours, as you said, the government's

00:34:19.140 certainly not going to help you out when the government's been the one that's been infringing

00:34:22.660 on people. We kind of need to help ourselves. And as you said, we need to support groups like yours

00:34:27.220 in order to do that and make sure our rights are maintained. So I thank you again for coming on.

00:34:32.180 And I really hope you can get some answers through this action on the Arrive Can.

00:34:36.360 Well, thanks, Corey. And it's been a pleasure.

00:34:38.380 Great. Thank you. I'm sure we'll talk again.

00:34:40.920 So that was the litigation director, Alan Hunter of the Democracy Fund. As you heard, I mean, yeah,

00:34:46.140 And it's just a lot of ridiculousness.

00:34:48.300 This government just, it shouldn't be like pulling teeth for these kinds of documents.

00:34:52.000 As he said, it shouldn't be that hard then just to resolve this.

00:34:54.280 If they have the proof there, just release it.

00:34:56.740 And I mean, of course, the unspoken thing is, chances are they don't have the documents.

00:35:00.940 That's probably what's going on behind there.

00:35:03.340 But you don't know.

00:35:04.460 So we have to use our courts to try and resolve these things.

00:35:08.140 And that's what organizations like Democracy Fund are doing. 0.92

00:35:11.920 And it is important.

00:35:13.600 And it's important with, as he said, he's representing Pastor Ardor Pawlowski.

00:35:18.900 And Mr. Pawlowski, I'm not, I guess how would I put it, a fan of his rhetoric and so on,

00:35:24.580 but he's also been terribly wronged.

00:35:26.200 He's had his rights of religious association and organization infringed upon.

00:35:30.740 I mean, credit where due, at least Mr. Pawlowski doesn't take it lying down, but he still needs help.

00:35:35.320 He's a pastor, not a lawyer.

00:35:37.180 And groups like this are really helping that.

00:35:39.840 The fallout, we can't let everything go with what's happened over this last few years with the pandemic.

00:35:47.940 I mean, we can't let precedents have been set where a government can get away scot-free with arbitrary measures against our freedoms.

00:35:54.780 Again, fining people, as it was stated, possibly with something that wasn't actually even technically a law.

00:36:00.580 We need to follow up on this.

00:36:02.240 And I'm just glad that there are groups, as he said, you can tell the tenaciousness he's not letting it go.

00:36:07.180 they're not gonna take no for an answer when it comes to finding out what's going on with this

00:36:12.180 sort of stuff so let's see I want to move on and talk a bit more about some of the news issues

00:36:16.980 one that's been hitting on the top Dave talked about that when I had him on Daniel Smith's visit

00:36:22.340 over in Ottawa the handshake you know I mean everybody's talking about the handshake and if

00:36:29.900 you look yeah you know Nico has brought up the picture even on that little corner picture you

00:36:33.840 could see it so i mean if people didn't see the live video basically they got together

00:36:38.320 they reached hands sort of towards each other it looked like premier smith was going to pull

00:36:41.840 her hand away so trudeau reached out and snatched it because he wanted that photo op and then he

00:36:46.160 held it with his thumb on top and squeezed it actually so hard that you could see the white

00:36:50.640 mark on her hand from where he was squeezing like you know this was probably uncomfortable

00:36:55.840 i mean it was awkward even if it wasn't a hard squeeze but dude if she's trying to pull her

00:37:00.960 Handaway, let her go. Speaking of the, you know, the kokanee groper, I guess she should be happy. 1.00

00:37:06.320 He just grabbed her hand. He's been known for elbowing breasts and groping other parts of 1.00

00:37:10.800 people, I guess, in other situations. It was just a bizarre sort of thing. Now, I think part of it,

00:37:19.360 too, was it was Premier Smith didn't want to be seen in the photo op grinning like a Cheshire

00:37:24.940 cat shaking hands of Prime Minister Trudeau. He likes doing that at every public meeting. And

00:37:29.800 that's what leaders do. And, you know, people have been beating on Rachel Notley because of

00:37:36.000 the many, many photo ops where she's happily sitting there smiling with Prime Minister Trudeau

00:37:42.400 and Albertans are not big fans of Prime Minister Trudeau. So, you know, they've been rubbing that

00:37:48.080 in. But if they could counter that with a nice picture of Danielle Smith standing there, you

00:37:53.320 know, hand in hand smiling with Trudeau, they'd be happy to get it. But obviously, Premier Smith

00:37:57.020 was not about to give that photo opportunity, and it upset Trudeau and led to that bizarre,

00:38:02.080 strange, and very, in my view, rough sort of handshake when you pinch with your thumb so

00:38:06.620 hardest to leave a white mark like that. That was just not right. And again, yeah, this goes back

00:38:13.820 historically. I mean, if people want to go all the way back to Lougheed, Premier Lougheed had a photo

00:38:18.840 op with Prime Minister Trudeau when they were negotiating with the senior Trudeau. And again,

00:38:23.400 and the senior Trudeau was as loathed, if not still, believe it or not, more than the current

00:38:27.960 Trudeau. And that really bit Lougheed in the butt a lot, that picture going around, because Albertans

00:38:33.940 did not want to see their leadership associating with the prime minister in any way other than

00:38:39.600 adversarially. So yeah, he's just consistent. If there's anything else with Trudeau, though,

00:38:45.820 I mean, we see that pattern with his own ministers and so on. He does not like strong women. He does 0.97

00:38:50.200 not. They upset him. Well, they probably make him feel insecure. And he pushes back. We see that in

00:38:57.080 the cabinet. And we see it with premiers. I mean, he gets upset enough with anybody pushing back

00:39:03.260 with him. But if it's a woman, well, your typical progressive man, your typical male feminist in

00:39:08.700 reality, quite often actually are the worst sort of people when it comes to dealing with women in 0.98

00:39:13.080 reality. So, well, we've seen that, I guess, the first meeting of Premier Smith with Prime Minister

00:39:20.100 Trudeau. It went, I guess, as well as could be, but the smiling photo op is obviously not going

00:39:26.160 to come out of it. And we'll see where, where things go from there. I believe she's doing a

00:39:30.200 conference. Premier Smith is a little later and she'll probably talk a little more about that.

00:39:35.340 Speaking of independent media and independent funding and things, and Arthur Green, you know,

00:39:40.380 he's been writing a lot of things. He really takes it on with Edmonton and the crime and the disorder

00:39:44.000 on the streets and things like that. I mean, it's, I think to a degree, because he had come out of

00:39:49.680 Bonneville and, you know, Bonneville's got social issues going on and things as well. But I mean,

00:39:53.960 when you get into the urban environment of somewhere like downtown Edmonton or in Calgary

00:39:58.880 or any large city nowadays, and you see the open drug use, the disorder, the mess, the human waste,

00:40:05.080 literally, he's been documenting and boy, it upsets them. He gets them mad. He puts those pictures out

00:40:10.180 of it because people don't realize if people don't go downtown, people don't ride the train,

00:40:14.760 they don't know how bad it's getting. And, you know, I don't blame them for not riding those

00:40:17.660 things. But yes, they're literally shooting up on the trains. They're literally taking craps

00:40:21.620 in the train stations. They're literally lighting fires in them and they're passed out all over the

00:40:27.220 place and there's garbage and there's syringes laying around. And Arthur has been getting a lot

00:40:32.060 of abuse for posting, oh, you're shaming these people. No, he's exposing a very real issue that

00:40:37.480 people don't want to talk about and that the mainstream media won't talk about. That's what

00:40:41.000 we're talking about with independent media and the importance of it. So the recent thing we've

00:40:46.040 seen, though, as we can see, this story that Nico just pulled up, the city's taking an approach

00:40:51.420 to safety and security. We'll see if that's effective because they were pushed and they

00:40:55.100 didn't want to. You know, when you get the pictures keep coming out, the emails keep coming in and

00:40:59.940 people saying, hey, what the hell's going on there? Well, that's when they have to act. And

00:41:05.860 now sheriffs, the province has stepped in and they're going to deploy some sheriffs, you probably

00:41:09.600 heard that in the news, to downtown Edmonton to help people feel safer, a full-out police people

00:41:14.060 because there's some truth to that too.

00:41:15.880 I remember some pictures,

00:41:16.600 I believe there are ones that Arthur was sharing with,

00:41:19.280 they showed a security guard standing in the background,

00:41:21.420 you know, with the safety vest on

00:41:22.460 and there were people who were looking pretty rough around.

00:41:24.220 People saying, why didn't that guard intervene?

00:41:25.680 Well, there's only so much a security guard can do.

00:41:28.740 I mean, they'll help people out

00:41:30.020 and they give a sense of presence

00:41:31.240 and they can hopefully move people along and do things.

00:41:33.580 But if it really push comes to shove,

00:41:35.720 a security guard can't be physically interacting

00:41:38.480 or interjecting any more than they really have to

00:41:42.620 when it comes to these things.

00:41:43.360 You need some sort of police officer, some sort of actual law enforcement to take part in that.

00:41:49.000 And the sheriffs will offer that.

00:41:51.440 And, you know, it's also, I think, a bit of a thumb in the eye.

00:41:54.240 As Paradoxie pointed out, yeah, Mayor Soe, he's never involved.

00:41:57.540 Thumb in the eye to the Ebbingen force, because it's kind of the province saying, well, if you guys won't put the police on the street, we will.

00:42:03.680 And they'll take care of our citizens, even if your civic government won't.

00:42:07.700 And also, I mean, somebody read a little into it.

00:42:10.060 Maybe there's some truth to it.

00:42:10.960 it's a way for pushing because, you know, one of the planks that Premier Smith has put up before

00:42:15.420 was talking about pursuing a provincial police force. This is showing indications of what a

00:42:21.780 provincial police force can be doing. It's going to be answering to the provincial government

00:42:25.240 rather than the municipal or the federal one. So we'll see as that goes. But I mean, again,

00:42:30.700 we have governments that do not want to face that issue because it's a complicated issue.

00:42:36.880 It's a difficult one. Addiction, there's no quick answers. There's no easy answers. The approach to

00:42:42.460 it is multi-tiered. I mean, you need some treatment. I still, I believe in safe consumption

00:42:47.660 to a degree when you can reasonably have it. I mean, there's some truth to the fact that if we

00:42:52.260 aren't helping them at least stay alive long enough to get to treatment, there's no point

00:42:55.860 in treating. But if you don't have a treatment policy in place and the facilities and the means,

00:43:03.420 it doesn't matter how long you let them, quote unquote, I'll say safely consume. There's no safe

00:43:08.180 consumption of meth, guys. There's no safe consumption of heroin. At best, you can keep

00:43:13.620 them from overdosing a little while. You need both. You need all of it. And we're seeing those

00:43:18.720 numbers. We're seeing it. I've said it before. I talked about people say with Portugal, look at

00:43:24.060 them. They're a good example. They decriminalize drugs and it's the hard drugs and they've really

00:43:28.320 brought down their addiction rates and their overdoses. And there's some truth to it. But

00:43:33.140 again, you got to look at the whole thing. Portugal also coupled that with a very aggressive

00:43:38.440 and large treatment regimen. They didn't just decriminalize the drugs and say, it's a free

00:43:43.400 for all and go for it. No, no, no. That was discovered in Switzerland with Needle Park.

00:43:46.520 It went to hell. You can't just, and that's what's going to happen in Vancouver, which is already

00:43:50.000 kind of happening, happening in Portland. If you just throw it out there and just say, no,

00:43:54.460 you can have all the drugs you want and we'll keep supplying and so on. The overdoses, the numbers

00:43:58.820 show they go up. They go higher and higher and higher. You need the treatment and you need to

00:44:03.500 have it there and quickly and effectively for when they're ready. And yes, you can't force somebody

00:44:08.160 in. They got to be ready. But I mean, Alberta, I like to remind people overdoses have dropped by

00:44:13.640 almost half, 47%. Very few other jurisdictions can claim that. And you got to give credit where

00:44:19.900 it's due. That was former Premier Jason Kenney who brought that in. He took a very strong treatment

00:44:24.200 approach, 8,000 treatment spaces in Alberta versus BC with a much bigger addiction problem

00:44:30.560 and a larger population, which only has, I think, 26 or maybe 3,600 addiction spaces,

00:44:36.400 treatment spaces. I'm going off memory here. And in BC, their overdoses are going up and up and up.

00:44:41.760 Portland decriminalized the drugs. And guess what? The overdoses went up because I think the

00:44:44.820 overdoses are the best measure of whether it's working or not, are people dying and they're

00:44:51.180 dying everywhere. This is a tragic, terrible, terrible thing. And as I said, there's no easy

00:44:55.040 answers. There's no politician wants it to happen, but there's some areas where it's working and

00:45:00.700 somewhere it's not. And, uh, you know, the BC, the, the enablement approach is a failure.

00:45:06.600 It's just a failure. Uh, so let's see what else we got here. Um, yeah, this is the federal

00:45:12.560 government is broken. You know, this is a broken is a term we've been hearing a lot. I've used it

00:45:16.200 for a long time as an independent sort of pushing guy with, you know, saying Canada's broken. There

00:45:20.000 was a poll recently where it was close to 70% of Canadians polled said they felt that Canada was

00:45:26.500 broken. It's, you know, this is something striking. This is something big. You wouldn't hear that

00:45:32.900 typically out of Canadians, easygoing Canadians. It's not saying they're all ready to take to the

00:45:37.460 streets and tear the buildings down or rip Confederation apart, but clearly Canadians are 0.99

00:45:41.920 very uncomfortable with the direction that government and their country in general is going.

00:45:46.880 But I mean, when we look at these constant stories coming out,

00:45:49.240 what do you expect?

00:45:49.840 So yeah, this is, federal government's broken.

00:45:51.840 This is from the budget officer.

00:45:53.680 So there needs to be a crack of the whip big time.

00:45:55.760 So there's a system that's broken.

00:45:57.640 And he's telling the National Finance Committee about this.

00:46:00.660 And he talked about Passport Canada.

00:46:02.160 Yeah, we're spending more and more and more.

00:46:03.940 And we're getting less and less and less.

00:46:05.420 It takes you months and months to get a bloody passport renewed.

00:46:07.760 This shouldn't be complicated.

00:46:09.740 But it's failing.

00:46:12.300 And it's continuing to fail.

00:46:13.720 because, hey, nobody can do a worse job of anything than bloody government.

00:46:16.840 And the unfortunate thing is the blind proponents just seem to think the way to fix it 0.96

00:46:20.500 is to add more government, to spend more money, get more layers, get more bureaucrats.

00:46:24.500 God, it's a cycle that's going to bankrupt us all.

00:46:27.340 It will eventually.

00:46:28.260 I mean, the dollars are going to crash.

00:46:30.880 So let's see.

00:46:31.860 Here's government fails in-house polling.

00:46:34.180 You know, these stories are all kind of on the same thing.

00:46:36.160 It says cabinet's on the wrong track and appears overwhelmed by events.

00:46:39.340 Canadians told pollsters in a Privy Council in-house research.

00:46:42.160 So this is the government's own polling.

00:46:44.100 They polled Canadians and Canadians said, yeah, you guys are screw ups.

00:46:47.780 Well, it's not the answers they wanted to hear, but I just hope the government maybe

00:46:52.140 is actually listening.

00:46:53.660 You're failing, guys.

00:46:54.800 You're failing all of us.

00:46:56.180 And, you know, it's not really translating into a strong support for change politically,

00:47:01.080 though.

00:47:01.200 That's what gets me a little concerned.

00:47:03.240 We're not seeing, say, a big shift to Pierre Polyev or just conservatives in general.

00:47:08.480 I'm not saying it's conservatism in this and that answer.

00:47:10.200 or even a big shift to the NDP, God help us federally, but it would show that people are

00:47:14.380 saying, yes, things are broken, but we're ready to get out there and change it. What we're seeing

00:47:19.880 instead is cynicism and apathy and indifference, and people are staying home. They aren't voting

00:47:26.140 at all, or they aren't voting for change, and that's why these governments just keep staying

00:47:30.520 in there, and these rotten governments keep getting reelected, as I was talking about with

00:47:35.500 civic governments too. We've got to get off our butts, guys. It feels like it's useless, but

00:47:39.160 honestly, you've got to take part, get out there, vote, take part in a party, do what you have to.

00:47:44.340 So we're seeing it. The Canadians know that things are broken, but Canadians also aren't 1.00

00:47:47.900 getting off their asses. So unless you want those elites to keep running things,

00:47:53.260 the ball's starting to get into our court. Yeah, look at the corruption that's surfacing.

00:47:58.580 You see, you would think if people looking at the amount of corruption, the scandals,

00:48:02.180 the amount of things that have happened by now, yet Justin Trudeau is still vacuously smiling

00:48:06.680 along, giving his hand crushing handshakes to premieres who loathe the man. And he's as secure

00:48:11.680 in power as he's ever been. Well, Christian Freeland's friends is the way they put it.

00:48:15.040 But McKinsey and company, you know, that's that consulting firm. And they've gotten billions and

00:48:21.860 millions of dollars in tax dollars for contracts, a lot of questionable things. We're just what the

00:48:27.960 hell these guys are doing. This is interesting, too. And again, these names keep coming in circles

00:48:33.500 So Dominic Barton, the former managing director, testified February 1st that he dined at Freeland's Toronto home,

00:48:39.940 and he personally introduced Prime Minister to executives at, guess where, the 2016 World Economic Forum conference in Davos, Switzerland.

00:48:49.660 Again, yesterday's conspiracies are turning into today's realities.

00:48:53.780 You can't hide from that.

00:48:55.220 I mean, I don't think the World Economic Forum is as powerful as some people are giving it credit for,

00:48:59.820 but we also can't pretend it isn't there.

00:49:01.300 We can't pretend they don't have an ugly agenda for us all and that they are influencing some of the power brokers in this country, all the way down from the municipal level with their 15-minute cities to Chrystia Freeland and our peckerhead prime minister who wants to embrace a great reset for Canada through things like a pandemic so that you can, well, build this socialist utopia because it hasn't succeeded anywhere else yet.

00:49:25.980 But damn it, one of these times it's going to work, right?

00:49:28.360 oh well okay enough rent and raving for a little bit let's do a check-in kind of uh cool things

00:49:34.740 down for a moment and uh it's been a while since i've talked to him as well and and that's uh

00:49:40.220 jim buzicum of uh marketplace commodities and and see what's happening out in the agricultural

00:49:45.060 commodity world so uh let's bring him in there hey jim how's it going hey good cory how are you

00:49:49.880 doing today i'm all right you know i mean people wonder you know geez you're angry all the time

00:49:53.800 no no it's therapeutic actually i'm quite in a good mood when i'm getting it out like this

00:49:57.400 Well, that's good. We need to hear that stuff. That's good stuff that you're doing there.

00:50:01.860 So it's been a while. You know, it's things that we're starting to see coming into the, I guess you could say the later winter part of the season.

00:50:08.560 You're getting some comparisons, I guess, what the stocks from December 31st, 22 versus the average estimates.

00:50:17.120 Like you're starting to get some measures you can look at where things are going.

00:50:19.740 Yeah, so StatsCan comes out with their production and stocks estimates throughout the year. And their last one was December 31st stocks average. That came out this week. And it shows things. I mean, really, it shows them somewhat in line. Nothing is really too surprising from our perspective.

00:50:40.860 wheat you know it's showing about 22 million metric tons during 3.7 canola 11.36

00:50:49.540 oats 3.59 5.07 on barley so really what it's showing us is that we have reasonable stocks on

00:50:59.100 all the major commodities that we produce in western canada we're moving those stocks at will

00:51:05.400 to the market whether it's domestic market or export market prices are still in the top

00:51:11.240 five ten percent fifteen percent of their all-time highs we still actually have

00:51:16.780 extremely good markets um you know it's uh holding on quite well considering that stocks are

00:51:25.200 kind of normal if you want to call it we'd like to look further and look at things like

00:51:30.180 what's going on in other markets such as united states usda just came out with a crop uh or sorry

00:51:37.720 a as a stock settlement report as well today and they show corn stocks soybean stocks and

00:51:45.440 wheat stocks actually all very comfortable as well uh and there too you know we're seeing all

00:51:51.600 these commodities actually trade in still really good price ranges i mean part of it isn't due to

00:51:58.540 once the markets go up, they don't come down as quick as maybe some would like to see it. Of

00:52:05.420 course, the farmers don't want to see it come down, but maybe the consumer does. And the other

00:52:09.920 part of it is we just got inflation on a number of things and commodities aren't, commodities are

00:52:17.040 part of that whole inflation thing that's going on across the world, across the Western countries

00:52:21.000 anyways. Yeah. So, I mean, you talk about world commodity prices because, I mean, it's tied

00:52:25.500 together for agricultural producers on the big, you know, grains and such. One of our commenters

00:52:30.620 did ask, when you get to local policies and how that might affect things, like he was asking if

00:52:35.580 government emissions plans have affected market pricing. I mean, we know that emissions plans

00:52:40.120 can bring up the cost for producers. They have to put that cost downstream somehow, but has it

00:52:46.300 impacted things locally in any way that you can measure? It hasn't yet. So not on a day-to-day

00:52:51.820 price there is a lot of talk about it though on the egg side so I'm assuming that he's probably

00:52:57.640 referring to the carbon tax and probably referring to the federal government discussion about well

00:53:05.120 not discussion they're going to cut the use of fertilizer by 2030 those are a big deal on both

00:53:11.960 those points are a big deal on the farm side costs increase there's really no way for a producer to

00:53:19.480 pass on the increase in costs from a carbon tax for example and then reduction on fertilizer

00:53:28.080 yeah there's probably some argument that they could use less fertilizer and find some different

00:53:33.400 ways of producing a crop but largely if you reduce fertilizer 30% what they're talking about

00:53:40.080 you're going to see a reduction in actual production there's just no other way it's

00:53:44.460 going to happen it's going to take a while so I wouldn't say that necessarily that's a market

00:53:49.340 factor today but in the long term it will will affect our markets for sure there's certainly

00:53:55.500 things that have to be watched well and you guys have always got your your eyes on it and you're

00:54:00.060 at uh marketplace commodities.com is there more you'd like to add before i let you go for the week

00:54:05.580 no we'll save some for next week uh cory good talking to you again and uh again our info is

00:54:10.940 all listed there on the screen so feel free to check with us for more info you bet thanks jim

00:54:15.980 All right. Take care, Corey. Thanks. So yeah, that's Jim of Marketplace Commodities. If you're

00:54:21.500 a producer, again, I mean, it's a business like anything else and you can't track and watch

00:54:25.740 everything. That's why you use specialized services for other things to make sure you can

00:54:30.860 maximize what you're producing and maximize the value you're going to get back. And there's a lot

00:54:35.180 of it's a complicated thing. As I said, there was no clear cut answer to how emissions legislation

00:54:40.620 could impact commodity prices, eventually it will downstream. But the thing it definitely

00:54:46.920 does impact in the shorter term, I guess, is the inputs. I mean, Cliff Burkard, one of the

00:54:50.840 commenters saying, yeah, input costs for farmers are at an all-time high. And everything gets

00:54:54.600 pushed down the line. I mean, when government makes producing anything more expensive,

00:54:58.440 eventually the consumer has to pay that price. It's just the way it goes. As well, when we're

00:55:05.300 talking about fertilizer regulations, if you're going to force a change that's going to reduce

00:55:11.500 the yield, it's going to reduce the amount produced. I mean, I'm no ag expert, but I know

00:55:15.580 enough about economics to know that you're going to short the supply a little more. And when you

00:55:19.640 do that, the price goes up. That's just straight economics. It doesn't matter whether it's

00:55:22.900 agricultural or anything else. So we have to watch government policies to see how it's going to

00:55:28.240 impact things down the road. And that's some of the dangers of it. You don't see it right away.

00:55:32.920 When a government proposes something or does something, particularly in things that, you know, if we're talking about agriculture, that's talking about cycles over years, people want to realize just how bad a policy might be until it's been a couple of years and is really having the impact.

00:55:45.340 So you've got to try and use a bit of a crystal ball and look ahead.

00:55:48.780 And it's a complicated area.

00:55:52.000 All right.

00:55:53.140 Speaking, so I see this.

00:55:54.520 This is a story that's on the standard site as well.

00:55:57.160 And we cover that a lot.

00:55:58.460 It's been interesting to watch this with Dr. Jordan Peterson.

00:56:01.140 Of course, everybody knows who he is.

00:56:02.260 they're just attacking him from all fronts. It's funny, they had all of those lobby groups that

00:56:06.940 were claiming, oh, we can't have Peterson speaking in Ottawa. We're going to protest. We got to stop

00:56:11.620 him. It's going to be a disaster. It's going to be a catastrophe. Well, no protesters showed up.

00:56:15.860 It was too cold. I don't know, maybe there was some good reality TV on that night or something.

00:56:21.280 So he did his talk to a large packed audience out there and did fine, but still they're after

00:56:25.740 Peterson. He breaks the mold. So the colleges, the psychologists in Ontario, they've been pushing

00:56:31.860 and talking about forcing him to take a retraining course on social media etiquette. It just chills

00:56:36.720 me when they start talking about these things. We're going to put you through this re-education,

00:56:40.820 put you through this course, make you, you know, group think. This is disturbing. And he's not

00:56:47.480 backing down, but he doesn't make his money as a practicing psychologist anymore anyway. So

00:56:50.940 if he did though, he'd probably be a lot more stressed about pushing back with these guys.

00:56:56.020 In that case, when you're worried about making your mortgage payment and paying your bills or

00:57:00.080 getting towards retirement, you might just say, ah, fine. I'll take your courses. I'll be quiet.

00:57:03.300 I'll do what I'm told. But, uh, you know, he's made, uh, I'm certain a good amount of money from

00:57:07.900 his very well selling, bestselling books and everything. So he could basically afford to

00:57:11.960 tell him to go to hell. But, and he says, uh, he's saying, get on with it. You know, this was

00:57:16.960 a tweet of his to the, to the Ontario college of psychologists. Are you planning to proceed

00:57:20.180 with your inquisition or not? I'm not submitting to your forced re-education. Take me to the

00:57:24.460 bloody disciplinary board or drop this idiot charade. And, uh, yeah, he's, so he's double

00:57:29.980 daring him. He's saying, let's go, come on. Are you going to shut me down or a lot? Let's get on

00:57:33.760 with it. I think they will. Um, I've talked about this most shows too. We've really got to watch

00:57:39.100 our post-secondary institutions. I was talking with a friend today. He works in the energy

00:57:44.940 sector downtown and he wondered where's this wokeness coming from? Where is this ESG crap?

00:57:50.420 and ESG is crap. Look it up guys. If you want another big danger that's sliding under the

00:57:54.400 radar, that's screwing up our economy, ESG. It's, it's, it's basically, and he was talking about a

00:58:00.420 particular company where I guess with their priorities for the year, you know, it's listing

00:58:05.560 them numerically. Number four was shareholder returns. Number four in the priorities. Whoa,

00:58:11.960 wait a minute. You're a corporation. It should be number one. People put the money in to get a

00:58:15.640 return not to do a freaking charity but this is where they're going because these guys the ones

00:58:20.700 who are climbing the ladder the ones who are getting to the top of the corporate scrotum pole

00:58:23.600 are ones from woke colleges and universities they might be geologists they might be you know skilled

00:58:30.800 people with other things but they've also been indoctrinated at those institutions with all that

00:58:35.500 crap and they're bringing it now to the boardrooms they're bringing it to the top and it's hurting

00:58:41.580 things. That's why you see these quizlings with energy companies like Shell and so on saying,

00:58:45.880 oh no, we want to embrace the just transition and we want to cooperate on castrating ourselves and

00:58:52.020 shutting down our own industry. That's because the blind are starting to lead the blind. These 0.99

00:58:56.760 guys are coming out of these universities. I keep saying, you know, the parasitic mind from

00:59:01.640 Gad Saad, please get out there and read that one. He really relates it. On that note too, as I close

00:59:06.920 up, it looks like I'm making arrangements. I've had her on before. I'll probably have Francis

00:59:11.160 Widowson on. It'll probably be a few weeks yet, but she got shut down and canceled from speaking 0.85

00:59:15.140 at Lethbridge University recently. So that should be an interesting conversation. Next week, I'm

00:59:20.260 going to be speaking to somebody as well on Quebec's energy sector. They're having, well,

00:59:25.320 there could be some actually problems on the horizon. Their hydropower isn't unlimited.

00:59:29.700 So there's that reminder, guys, take out a membership, get on here, help support us and

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