Western Standard - August 17, 2023


CMS: Alberta can go its own way


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In this episode of The Western Standard, Cory and Dan discuss the federal government's carbon tax, the Alberta government's attempt to get rid of Alberta's clean energy strategy, and the ongoing Supreme Court challenge to the carbon tax.

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00:00:00.000 Transcription by CastingWords
00:00:30.000 good day welcome to the cory morgan show i am indeed cory morgan this is my hour every week
00:00:38.800 with the western standard where i cover some news get some ranting out and talk to interesting
00:00:44.920 guests who offer us insight on all sorts of issues and today is no exception is a good show
00:00:50.500 i got dan mcteague coming on a little while he's with canadians for affordable energy or you might
00:00:56.480 know more for gasbuddy.com. He did a lot of work as, you know, pointing people in the right
00:01:02.460 direction to find good prices at the pump for gasoline and a lot of work analyzing fuel prices,
00:01:08.780 energy prices, things such as that. And of course, it's a big issue going on right now. As well,
00:01:13.940 I put that as the afterthought, he was actually a liberal member of parliament back in the day.
00:01:18.780 These were pre-Trudeau days. And if you've seen Mr. McTeague's commentary these days,
00:01:24.320 He's not a big fan of the Trudeau Liberals.
00:01:26.840 He's of more of the old stock when Liberals were still somewhat sane versus the ideological lunatics we have under Prime Minister Hammerhead.
00:01:36.000 So let's get on to speaking of, you know, the actions of Prime Minister Trudeau and some of the things his government has done and some of the stuff that's really been hitting the fan out in the West lately this week.
00:01:47.780 So the words, her words were loaded and uncompromised.
00:01:51.560 So when the Western Standards, Nigel Hannaford at a press conference the other day asked Premier Daniel Smith what she will do to fend off the proposed federal incursion into Alberta's jurisdiction with electrical generation, she finished her answer basically saying, we will go our own way.
00:02:08.180 That's her own words.
00:02:09.740 Now, Smith isn't saying the government's going to pursue an independence referendum in Alberta anytime soon, but she's well aware, too, that her statement left room for people to take that as an unspoken threat.
00:02:20.340 Alberta's premier is an experienced and skilled communicator.
00:02:23.700 Her choice of words was no mistake.
00:02:25.740 Now, in the near future, Alberta will go its own way with the current plan to reach net zero emissions by 2050, no matter what Ottawa thinks.
00:02:33.300 The goalposts, though, are 15 years apart, whereas, you know, Gilboa wants to reach that goal in 2035.
00:02:41.220 And there's little indication that Gilboa or Smith are willing to even entertain the notion of changing their targets.
00:02:46.740 So this battle is just beginning.
00:02:48.720 Now, Gilboa's following the typical liberal playbook.
00:02:51.000 He's slapping down the West to win support in the East.
00:02:54.380 The net zero electric generation targets are going to be easily met in Ontario and Quebec,
00:02:57.980 where they're rich in hydroelectric resources and they have nuclear reactors.
00:03:02.660 The 2035 net zero target for Alberta, though, is utterly impossible to reach
00:03:06.780 without crippling Alberta's economy and threatening domestic energy security.
00:03:11.540 Right now, fossil fuel supplies almost 80% of the province's energy needs,
00:03:15.200 and that can't change that much in 12 short years. The province has no major rivers to dam,
00:03:20.980 and the way Canada works, it would take decades to get a large-scale nuclear power generation
00:03:25.200 plant up and running if it was ever even approved. I mean, despite years and billions in investment
00:03:30.760 in solar and wind generation projects, they still only supply a small percentage of the Alberta
00:03:34.940 power grid, and they'll always need to be backed up with gas generators for the days when the sun
00:03:39.280 doesn't shine and the wind doesn't blow. It does happen. Smith can't bend on that, and she won't 0.96
00:03:44.600 bend. And Gilbeau won't budge either. So what next? Well, this battle's surely going to head
00:03:49.060 to Canada's courts, and it'll move at the typical glacial pace. So it's going to be a war fought in
00:03:54.100 slow motion with plenty of heated rhetoric as the challenges creep through the system.
00:03:59.800 Eventually, the Supreme Court will rule on the dispute, and it will rule in favor of the liberal
00:04:04.520 government. I mean, the Constitution's little more than a set of suggestions when it comes to
00:04:08.640 protecting Alberta's constitutional authority and jurisdiction and energy generation. We establish
00:04:13.880 that when the Supreme Court upheld the carbon tax. The court is stacked, and when it feels
00:04:18.640 that it's in the public good, particularly Central Canada's public good, you know, when it feels it's
00:04:24.660 better to step on Alberta's rights in that case, it'll step on Alberta's rights every time. 1.00
00:04:28.740 Now, Premier Smith is saying she's willing to pull out all the stops to stop Ottawa's incursion
00:04:33.220 upon the province. Now, time will tell if she really means it, though, because once the battle
00:04:37.480 is finished in the courts and Alberta has lost, the federal government will then move on to the
00:04:41.240 punitive stage if we don't cooperate out here in the West. They'll cut transfer payments as they
00:04:46.400 demand capitulation, and the impact Albertans will be harsh. We'll be starved of the transfers of our
00:04:51.840 own money back to us. At this point, there's only going to be one thing that will make Ottawa back
00:04:56.580 off. Alberta needs to begin the process of truly going its own way. No doublespeak, no veiled 0.98
00:05:01.740 threats. Alberta needs to work towards invoking a referendum on independence under the Clarity Act.
00:05:06.880 The only other option is a surrender to the Trudeau Liberals, and that would only open the
00:05:11.000 door, of course, to more incursions, we might as well just give up having a provincial government.
00:05:14.880 No, I don't expect Premier Smith to start threatening a move towards provincial independence,
00:05:18.860 at least not yet. Most Albertans would still prefer to see the standoff somehow settled
00:05:23.280 within Confederation, or at least for now. Once all the legal challenges have failed and all of
00:05:28.720 the tools have been taken out of the toolbox, used and broken, only one path is going to remain,
00:05:33.640 and that's the path to full independence. Now time will tell whether Premier Smith is going to be
00:05:38.240 willing to take that path. She is the most independence-minded, inclined Premier Alberta's
00:05:44.060 had to date though. So we've got some interesting times ahead of us. All right. So that's kind of
00:05:49.240 where I'm setting the stage today. We've got an interesting fall coming along in politics as
00:05:53.140 always. So let's get in with our news editor, Dave Naylor though, and see what else is happening
00:05:58.380 out there in the world for our check-in. Hey Dave, how you doing? I'm doing okay, Corey. How are you
00:06:04.060 handling the heat. Oh, I like it. I love heat. Bring it on. I thought you were more of a winter
00:06:09.620 guy. Oh, I despise winter. Jane likes the cooler weather. Yes. You've heard me whine about winter
00:06:16.360 enough to know how much I hate it. I had a laugh this week on some of the other media's headlines
00:06:21.700 where it's, oh, heat warning, you know, temperatures to soar, take precautions. It's going up to 30
00:06:27.440 degrees and it's summer. Like, what do people expect? It's summer. Well, it seems this is the
00:06:32.860 first time ever. I mean, they act like it, don't they? I remember many 30-degree days when I was
00:06:37.500 a kid, too. I'd still be kicked out of the house and have to deal with it. I survived.
00:06:41.960 Exactly. Come back when the sun's going down. One group of people, Corey, that's not having a
00:06:48.040 very good time this summer right now is in the Northwest Territories, and that's where some of
00:06:53.020 our news focus has been this morning. RCMP charged some kids with starting an arson fire up there,
00:07:01.840 And that's sort of continuing along the way that Alberta went and parts of BC where all these fires break out.
00:07:09.720 And then it turns out, you know, it's not climate change.
00:07:12.460 It's actually arson.
00:07:14.540 So we've got the story up there with some RCMP-supplied video of the kids setting the fire.
00:07:21.720 The fire itself is now within 16 kilometers of Yellowknife, the capital of the Northwest Territories.
00:07:29.180 So things there are tense.
00:07:31.180 And, you know, they're praying for some rain, but I don't think it's coming.
00:07:37.580 Also praying for rain are the people down near Pincher Creek.
00:07:41.420 That area is the latest in Alberta to be declared a disaster area for the crops because of the lack of rain.
00:07:50.980 uh we've got a story from our business expert sean polzer on how the the influx of people
00:07:59.660 moving here from uh place other places in canada has kept the calgary housing market
00:08:06.240 booming house prices in vancouver and toronto compared to calgary calgary is about half the
00:08:13.900 price and uh we've got a story on uh if you remember cory during the pandemic uh the liberals
00:08:20.040 had all these ventilators stored away, spent like hundreds of millions of dollars on them,
00:08:25.240 never used.
00:08:26.460 Well, now apparently a lot of them have been given to the Ukraine to help in their war effort.
00:08:33.440 So that's what we've got up now.
00:08:35.060 Coming up shortly, we've got a former NBA player musing about throwing on a wig and
00:08:41.560 joining the Women's League, as men are doing a lot of women's sports these days to try
00:08:47.360 and mock gender. 0.81
00:08:48.800 and he figures he could score 60 points a game in the women's league and he's seven foot tall
00:08:54.600 cory so i wouldn't uh put it past him and uh mr polzer's got a story coming up on uh germany
00:09:01.520 desperate for natural gas uh buying it from other places in the world because as prime minister
00:09:07.220 trudeau said no business market here for it cory none at all so wonderful i guess one bright side
00:09:14.040 Maybe the WNBA will finally get a little bit of a bump in its ratings. 1.00
00:09:18.640 Yeah, they're not very good.
00:09:21.040 And hey, speaking of women's sports, shout out to the English women's soccer team made the final. 1.00
00:09:27.320 It's England's first World Cup final since 1966.
00:09:31.080 So we're all going to have to get up early Sunday morning in the middle of the night and watch that game.
00:09:35.220 I look forward to you telling me how it went.
00:09:38.120 You know I will.
00:09:39.360 All right. Thanks, Dave.
00:09:40.800 Take care, Corey.
00:09:42.040 That is our news editor, Dave Naylor.
00:09:43.920 As you can hear, there are lots of things.
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00:10:08.140 We've been, well, I wouldn't say banned, but we can't put our stuff on Facebook anymore.
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00:10:17.040 We're not with that bunch, but we need subscribers to do it.
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00:10:49.020 And yeah, we cover some fun and interesting stories.
00:10:51.260 That NBA one is interesting.
00:10:52.840 We saw that in Canada recently with, I guess it was a female power lifter or, you know, a former male power. 0.80
00:11:00.140 I can't keep up with the terms anymore.
00:11:03.720 You know, I know trans doesn't bother me.
00:11:05.720 I'm not as hung up on it with some other people.
00:11:07.140 Hey, if that's your thing, good for you.
00:11:08.620 Right on.
00:11:09.020 and I will certainly refer to anybody by whatever gender pronouns they prefer once they've told me
00:11:13.300 or whatever, things like that. But we can't keep trying to deny physiological realities. That's
00:11:18.860 where the problem gets. We can't pretend that there's not a physiological advantage
00:11:25.420 when somebody's entering women's sports if they were initially biologically a male. There's just 0.77
00:11:31.320 no pretending. They're asking us to set aside reality. And it's unfair. It's unfair to the
00:11:37.920 women who trained so hard, who put that time in to try and compete. You know, we see that in swimming 0.90
00:11:43.860 and now we're seeing with powerlifting, of course. I don't know. Reality's got to sink in. And the
00:11:49.800 thing is what it does is it sparks up with the absurdity when you, the activists push into areas
00:11:54.540 like that is the backlash ends up hitting other people who just want to live their lives and move
00:11:59.300 on. You know, it adds to the division and actually generates some of the hate because there are some
00:12:03.420 hateful people out there, but it's just getting ridiculous. So maybe though, I, you know, I'm
00:12:08.720 sure it's a bit tongue in cheek, but if an NBA individual is talking about popping into the WNBA
00:12:14.480 and taking part, well, maybe it helps expose a little bit of just, you know, how stupid it's
00:12:20.340 getting guys. I'm not seeing any people who were born biologically female trying to get into the 0.78
00:12:24.820 NFL. For some reason, it just doesn't seem to work out, even though apparently biologically
00:12:29.240 they're the same. It doesn't seem to happen.
00:12:31.560 Ah, right. We get those stories.
00:12:33.200 The other one is, yeah, with Yellowknife, you know, and
00:12:35.020 Arthur Green was covering that. He's always covering
00:12:37.200 a lot of stuff up in Edmonton and our other stuff.
00:12:40.280 We're seeing that a lot.
00:12:41.360 We're seeing that these fires, yes, they're unusual
00:12:43.220 this year. They're high. But what's also high is
00:12:45.240 once they investigate the amount
00:12:47.140 that were set by people, and
00:12:48.880 the legacy media is jumping all over Premier Smith
00:12:51.180 that she pointed out that we've got an arson
00:12:53.320 problem, and we do.
00:12:55.220 We found that in Yellowknife. Yes, here
00:12:57.320 yet again more arsonists behind it. Now the bush is tender dry and we are in the midst of a bad
00:13:04.600 drought throughout the west right now. So I mean it's going to burn harder and hotter and we can
00:13:09.340 debate the rationale behind it but it's not spontaneous combustion guys. We've had people
00:13:14.980 getting behind it. The earth isn't boiling but it is hot right now. Don't light fires in the trees.
00:13:21.920 So either way I hope for the best for people but you know we'll report on those things even if
00:13:26.800 legacy media doesn't want to talk about it because those are the facts. And those are press
00:13:29.660 conferences. That wasn't a theory coming out of Yellowknife. I saw that. That was a press
00:13:34.040 conference from the RCMP in Yellowknife. Yes, they'd arrested four guys for lighting the fires
00:13:38.120 up there. So let's point to where the problems really are. Speaking of problems, speaking of
00:13:44.740 stupid. I love speaking of stupid. It's one of my favorite subjects. And there's never a short
00:13:49.740 pool to draw from when it comes to our federal government. So Export Development Canada. I saw
00:13:54.300 this gem. This is beautiful. They are unsure of recovering millions it loaned for aircraft engines
00:14:01.700 to a Mexican airline. So a startup little domestic airline in Mexico, I guess they wanted to get some
00:14:10.680 airplanes. They needed engines. So what do we do? They gave our Canadian tax dollars to this Mexican 1.00
00:14:16.800 airline. So here we'll lend you that because, you know, we know that your credit risk is low, right?
00:14:21.620 and you can run that great Mexican airline business.
00:14:24.800 There's no corruption or incompetence in Mexico.
00:14:27.100 You know, that doesn't happen down there.
00:14:28.780 Well, lo and behold, they've gone broke.
00:14:30.520 Now, why would they take millions of Canadian tax dollars,
00:14:33.260 and they still haven't disclosed how many,
00:14:35.080 and give them to a Mexican airline startup?
00:14:38.080 Well, of course, all roads always lead to Quebec
00:14:40.200 when it comes to business subsidies.
00:14:41.360 It was Pratt & Whitney that was manufacturing these engines,
00:14:47.200 which is based, of course, in Quebec.
00:14:50.240 So, it's not enough just to take our money from productive regions, such as Alberta, Saskatchewan,
00:14:55.480 and dump it into Quebec, the unproductive, the parasites of the country, 1.00
00:14:58.960 and into things like Bombardier and Pratt and Whitney.
00:15:02.340 It's not enough just to give the money to those companies,
00:15:04.400 because even with all those subsidies, obviously their products are crap,
00:15:07.460 because the only way we can get people to buy them is to give them the money to buy our products.
00:15:11.740 Brilliant. Just brilliant.
00:15:14.420 And so now, these engines, who knows where they are,
00:15:16.880 they probably melted them down in Mexico and sold them for some pesos and moved back into the drug
00:15:21.240 cartels where there's more, you know, less corruption than dealing with the Canadian government.
00:15:26.020 This is our tax dollars at work. This is what happens. We see this all over. I mean, people
00:15:31.260 keep talking about that. Look, guys, the solution is less government. It's less. We need government
00:15:36.020 out of the way. You want to help the economy. It's not going to be through government trying
00:15:39.780 to pick winners and losers and micromanaging and taking money from the productive and giving it to
00:15:44.120 useless. But we keep trying. And this happens on the city level. We saw this a while back when
00:15:51.200 Mayor Nahed Nenshi was in charge of Calgary. We had Calgary Economic Development. You know,
00:15:56.600 they give it a nice little name, make it sound like a chamber of commerce or something like that.
00:15:59.300 No, what it is, is a crown, an arm's length corporation set up by the city of Calgary that
00:16:06.000 was given a hundred million dollars slush fund to try and draw business to the city. As far as I
00:16:11.780 could tell that they had rocket space downtown, which went broke after a few months and a few
00:16:15.680 other pathetic lackluster victories, if you want to call it that. And otherwise, they just seem to
00:16:20.480 hire some well-connected people for some really good money to talk about how they're going to
00:16:25.320 help the city while not actually doing anything. But that's the usual course of these sorts of
00:16:30.880 things. And likewise, on a bigger scale, there's Economic Development Canada doing the same
00:16:36.120 thing. And they're taking our dollars and they're pouring them in. Speaking of Angie,
00:16:40.880 I haven't spoken to him a lot lately.
00:16:42.320 He's always been one of my favorite political punching bags, I guess you could say.
00:16:45.820 He's been quiet lately.
00:16:46.760 No, no, no, too many people have missed his voice.
00:16:49.460 But as we saw in The Standard, it sounds like, you know, our publisher Derek Fildebrand came up.
00:16:53.860 He's had a source within the NDP, and it appears that Rachel Notley could be resigning probably within the next month or two, you know, as we get into the fall session.
00:17:03.520 This isn't that surprising.
00:17:05.460 I mean, Notley's been in office for quite some time.
00:17:09.080 She was the premier, of course, for one term, then got, you know, lost an election.
00:17:14.480 Then she lost an attempt to get back into it.
00:17:17.500 So, I mean, she's tired out.
00:17:18.820 I can't see them.
00:17:19.840 I mean, a lot of people say she'll stick with it because they have nobody else.
00:17:22.260 Well, yeah, but eventually you have to turn it over and you have to try.
00:17:27.140 So I suspect it's true.
00:17:29.640 She is going to go.
00:17:30.680 But then you start wondering who will they replace her with.
00:17:32.900 And then she's one of the names that pops up.
00:17:34.540 I see Marcel saying, don't speak of him, please.
00:17:36.340 Sorry, I won't say his name too many more times or he might appear.
00:17:39.520 But, you know, it's one of the names that Fabio, or otherwise known as Thomas Lukasik,
00:17:44.900 is another name that's bounced around, somebody who went into the political background,
00:17:48.380 but he still beaks off from the distance on things.
00:17:51.160 You know he wants to be involved, he wants to feel important.
00:17:53.340 I wouldn't be shocked to see him throw his hat in.
00:17:56.160 And, yeah, there's any number of NDP members and so on from not least caucus
00:18:02.820 that I could see me taking a run for the job.
00:18:04.980 But can we see anybody who's really going to take that party and run with it?
00:18:08.560 I'll have to say his name one more time. Ninchy, I could see him gaining Calgary support, but the
00:18:12.940 problem is he doesn't, he's not an NDP loyalist. They, I can't see him winning their leadership
00:18:18.300 for a couple of things. He's not a good team player. He's not going to do well with the
00:18:22.220 caucus. He's not going to get support from the workers within the NDP. That's why positions
00:18:26.340 like mayor, where you're kind of an individual work for him. So the other thing is they want
00:18:32.520 people to come up through their union ranks and all the rest of it. So even though politically,
00:18:36.460 I could see it. He could be one that could put them over the edge. I hate to say it, but there's
00:18:39.700 still some people in Calgary that like that guy. If he was leading the NDP, he could potentially
00:18:43.900 pull those votes over to win Calgary. I just can't see him taking or maintaining the NDP
00:18:48.920 leadership, though, in order to do so. And of course, to be fair, he's never shown any interest
00:18:53.220 in that. That's just pure speculation. But we know that guy isn't gone yet. He's my age. He's 52.
00:18:59.560 That's still pretty young in politics. He's not giving up. So we're going to see him surface
00:19:03.540 somewhere. Whether it's a run for the NDP leadership, again, I doubt it, but who knows?
00:19:08.880 About the time to start speculating now. At least that's what we like doing.
00:19:12.840 You know, I mentioned earlier, so there's been that battle over C-18. We can't put,
00:19:17.460 it's, you know, it's a shakedown. The Liberal government has been bailing out legacy media
00:19:21.080 outlets. I mean, they've been outright, you know, taking millions and giving it to outlets.
00:19:24.680 And they thought another way we can do this is to put the screws to Google and Facebook,
00:19:29.040 you know, and start charging them for providing links. It's ridiculous. It was like charging a
00:19:33.160 paper boy for delivering papers. It was stupid. And it backfired. And it failed. And now though,
00:19:39.780 we're paying the price. Canadians can no longer see news links on Facebook and probably soon on
00:19:45.600 Google. And people say, I never read my news on Facebook. No, that wasn't the point. It wasn't
00:19:49.680 reading the news there. That's how you found your way to it. It was a tool. We've lost that tool.
00:19:55.640 But part of the battle now that Facebook didn't bluff, they said, you know, we don't need to put
00:19:59.100 these news links up and they stopped. The government said, well, we'll get them back.
00:20:03.640 We'll stop advertising with Facebook because they spent money on Facebook ads. Well, not all of them
00:20:08.880 did though. If you're going to have a government boycott, guys, you got to get all your little
00:20:12.920 ducks in a row and they don't seem to have done that well. But again, we're talking about liberal
00:20:15.620 competency, right? So our records at Meta Platforms Incorporated showed that, yeah,
00:20:20.280 citizen services minister, so cabinet minister, Terry Beach, a liberal cabinet minister is buying
00:20:25.500 Facebook ads. He's still paying, giving tax dollars to Facebook to buy ads, even though the
00:20:32.420 government is supposedly boycotting it. These guys are inept. You know, and we're hearing that sort
00:20:37.120 of speculation that Justin Trudeau may be at the end of his time as well. And we'll see. I think
00:20:45.620 he's going to go. I mean, there's people really disputed that. There was discussion on Twitter
00:20:49.700 quite a bit ahead of that. You know, is Trudeau going to go or not? But you see, I think, and I
00:20:54.500 don't think it was planned. I'm not that, you know, he's not that deep in whatever. His marriage
00:20:58.840 has clearly got issues going on. There's a separation. Things are going on, but it gives
00:21:02.580 him an out. And I mean, it wasn't a planned out, but he can use it because right now he's floundering.
00:21:06.700 He doesn't know what to do. He's won two minority governments back to back. They're not going to 0.97
00:21:12.020 tolerate him winning a third minority or even losing the election as it looks like he would 1.00
00:21:15.380 right now. And he's not brilliant, but he probably could have realized that, okay, shuffling
00:21:20.560 cabinet didn't do it. I just can't seem to gain traction in these polls. People are saying he's
00:21:25.400 loves the job too much. He's got too much ego. He won't step aside. I say it's the other way around.
00:21:31.280 He does have enough of a brain in that little head of his, not a lot, but enough to realize that if
00:21:36.580 he runs again, he's going to get electorally spanked. He's going to be punted out of that seat
00:21:42.080 and it's going to be humiliating. This way he could say, you know, I've done all I can and
00:21:48.020 now I'm going to, I want to be fair to Canadians. I want to be fair to my family and go spend time
00:21:54.100 with them and he'll step back and he'll leave the mess for someone else to try and clean up.
00:22:00.400 But we'll see. We'll see. It's always speculation. I got a feeling within the next couple of months
00:22:05.500 we're not going to see a prime minister Trudeau and some other people saying, well, he won't call
00:22:09.260 an election right now. And he's like, no, he won't. And that's what I'm talking about. The timing is
00:22:12.900 about right, actually, if you're going to do it, because that gives two years, roughly, if you're
00:22:17.500 going to hopefully maintain the Liberal government that long. It gives one year, and that's how long
00:22:21.840 these things take almost, you know, around now, or the better part of one, for them to have a
00:22:25.580 leadership race, find and get whoever they want to have as a leader, and it gives them a year to try
00:22:31.020 and establish themselves before they have to go to the polls. Because if he waits too long, then at
00:22:35.400 that point, then yeah, they don't have the timeline to do it, and he's going to be in there for the
00:22:38.960 end. So right now would be the time when he'd be considering stepping back and getting somebody
00:22:45.060 else in there. Um, other people, yeah, there's speculation, you know, uh, uh, somebody saying,
00:22:51.840 uh, he thinks the Trudeau separation is a hoax. I, I don't know. I, I don't think the conspiracies
00:22:56.500 are that deep. Um, you know, love him or loathe him. I think most of us here loathe him. I know
00:23:01.800 I certainly do, but he is human. He is. And, uh, his relationships are real and I'm sure they have
00:23:08.040 their ups and downs and good and bad and, uh, things just, just parted ways. I, I can't see
00:23:14.460 any political advantage in having that split happen and go on like that. So, I mean, I just,
00:23:21.540 no, sorry, guys. I think he's going with it, but it was certainly nothing planned.
00:23:26.720 You're always better off if you're in a political position to have a stable family unit going on.
00:23:31.240 It just looks better and it's less headache. So, no, I don't think it's fake. And I don't think
00:23:35.820 that he wanted to go that way necessarily, but who knows how long they've been having problems.
00:23:42.320 Here's an interesting one.
00:23:43.920 So the federal court rejected a test case of quarantine orders.
00:23:51.640 So, you know, there's a lot of things hitting the courts.
00:23:53.660 I was talking earlier with how slowly Canada's court system works, and it is with every challenge and with everything that happens within it right now.
00:24:01.360 Well, there was a case going forward, you know, basically saying charter rights were breached with a lot of the mask and vaccine mandates, and they certainly were.
00:24:09.960 I mean, I don't think many people can look at that and say, no, you know, the rights weren't breached with the travel restrictions and things like that.
00:24:15.700 The question is whether it was a justifiable breach.
00:24:19.100 But what gets me now is the government saying, well, now, you know, this is all over.
00:24:24.380 And this is what the judge herself said.
00:24:27.140 I think it was her.
00:24:28.040 I'm sorry.
00:24:28.500 It's a name I can't pronounce.
00:24:30.000 It sounds feminine, but it could be a male.
00:24:32.060 It doesn't really matter.
00:24:33.120 What the judge said is there's no longer a live controversy.
00:24:36.700 The dispute has disappeared since mandates are no longer enforced.
00:24:40.220 Thus, we don't need to hear this case.
00:24:43.340 Well, hang on a minute.
00:24:44.780 We need it more than ever.
00:24:47.300 Just because it's done doesn't mean we don't still try it
00:24:50.360 and find out whether it was worth doing.
00:24:54.480 I mean, that'd be like saying, well, the murder is done.
00:24:56.400 The guy's dead.
00:24:57.240 You know what?
00:24:57.540 Do we want to waste time in court and everything going over it?
00:25:00.020 I mean, he's not going to be any less dead for having done so.
00:25:04.140 Of course, we've got to put this through the courts
00:25:05.980 because what happens the next time?
00:25:08.280 And we know there's going to be a next time.
00:25:11.040 That's why you run this through the courts now.
00:25:13.300 Even though the restrictions are gone, we have to evaluate this.
00:25:17.600 So we do have a basis the next time a government tries to do this to us all.
00:25:23.420 That's what our courts are for. 0.98
00:25:24.640 But no, no, this court said, no, we're not going to reexamine this because it's done.
00:25:33.920 Well, no, guys, no.
00:25:36.140 We got some big issues.
00:25:37.660 And you know what?
00:25:38.440 I mean, again, I'm not as far over with some of the people with some of the thoughts they
00:25:43.300 had on it as to why vaccines were what or what the pandemic was.
00:25:46.680 But clearly, the government did mislead a lot of people.
00:25:49.580 It did overreact in a lot of ways.
00:25:51.660 It's certainly infringed on rights.
00:25:53.160 I still get people on my case, you know, because I've always talked about that.
00:25:56.180 I got jabbed twice.
00:25:57.460 I didn't get any more boosters.
00:25:58.680 I talk about those things.
00:25:59.560 uh but i've always they get upset with me for even having done that some people
00:26:05.180 hey it was my choice there's where we get it clear guys i support your choice i've always
00:26:11.180 opposed vaccine passports i always oppose the mandates i oppose the masking you want to go
00:26:17.520 and vaccinate get vaccinated though by all means you don't want to don't we've got some people on
00:26:23.040 the fringe and i'll say that fringe side saying my even participating in the vaccination shouldn't
00:26:28.920 to happen. Well, then you're infringing on my choice. So kiss my ass. Goes both ways, guys.
00:26:34.460 But I think we made choices based on a lot of bad information from a government, from a government
00:26:39.340 that, like I said, was overreacting. I think there's a lot of questions to be asked about
00:26:42.840 the amount of money they spent on those vaccines. Who did do well out of all that? I mean, they're
00:26:48.000 pushing for fall boosters to come up for this year already. But as we've seen, what is it? Only
00:26:55.140 6% of Canadians have gotten a booster in the last six months. We're done. We're sick of it.
00:27:00.260 We're finished with it. We're not listening to the medical experts on this one anymore. We're
00:27:05.540 tired of being told that we're supposed to be afraid. We're tired of being pressured into
00:27:09.540 taking medications we don't feel comfortable with. So the next time this happens, and like I said,
00:27:16.120 it's going to happen again. I don't think people are going to be nearly as docile and compliant
00:27:21.260 as we were last time.
00:27:23.060 We've been through this once before.
00:27:25.620 Lord, help us.
00:27:26.800 If it turns out that it really is a bad virus
00:27:29.300 that's going around that could kill people,
00:27:31.600 you know, without a proper vaccine or medication
00:27:34.200 or quarantines and things like that.
00:27:36.280 What if it's something that is far, far worse
00:27:38.200 than COVID ever was?
00:27:39.220 But now we've lost so much trust with the state
00:27:41.920 that people won't cooperate.
00:27:44.100 And even then, I'll tell you what,
00:27:45.320 I won't support mandatory orders.
00:27:48.920 You know what?
00:27:49.340 if people were dropping in the streets from COVID and they weren't, if it was hitting young people,
00:27:55.800 it never did. If it was killing healthy people, it never did. People would have chosen to take on
00:28:03.080 any mandates and things to try and avoid the spread of that disease. They wouldn't need the
00:28:08.880 gun to their head. I know there's always individuals who wouldn't bother, but most people, believe it
00:28:13.140 or not, aren't that bad. A lot of people are really stupid, but they aren't necessarily all
00:28:17.860 that bad. Either way, we need to go into those things. Alpert, after saying the judge said that
00:28:26.040 if the mandates were properly declared, they wouldn't have violated the constitution. No,
00:28:29.520 not exactly. Mandates like that violate it, period. I think most judges agree. It's just
00:28:34.900 that they use section one, which is when you start inserting the word reasonable limits or
00:28:40.860 things like that, which leaves it very wide open to interpretation. And then you can sort of set
00:28:46.420 aside those things, but it was definitely infringement. When it came to travel, I mean,
00:28:50.220 that was a clear infringement. I mean, it's important to have a right of mobility or the right
00:28:54.980 to assembly. That's a big right. That's a serious one. It's an important one. I mean, it might not
00:29:01.380 seem as important now as it used to be. The reason the right for free assembly was written into
00:29:05.280 charters of rights across the world in the democratic world was because governments,
00:29:11.920 authoritarians, one of the things they never want people to do is organize against them.
00:29:16.960 And the way they would have to do it, you know, days prior to social media or even telephones,
00:29:20.240 you'd have to all get together in the basement of a pub or at a barn or wherever you had to and
00:29:25.300 actually organize person to person. And if the government could break up those organizing,
00:29:29.560 the gathering, or even unions, things like that, they could stop it from happening. That's why the
00:29:34.160 right to gather with other people is entrenched. That right was suspended. We couldn't go to
00:29:39.120 weddings. We couldn't go to funerals. One in a lifetime, you know, events, opportunity. I mean,
00:29:45.220 I guess it depends on the wedding. You know, graduations, things such as that. We lost those.
00:29:51.940 We had our right to assembly violated. And that was suspended on the basis of section one.
00:30:00.980 You can't, no judge with a straight face should be able to look and say that the right wasn't
00:30:07.560 suspended. It certainly was. Certainly was. Either way, yeah, we got a lot of scary stuff to look at
00:30:13.320 in hindsight. But there's a lot of misunderstanding. People don't understand rights. We take them for
00:30:16.680 granted. We are a spoiled country. We have a lot of that. We look at the Emergencies Act. That was
00:30:22.120 when our rights were suspended. That's the point of the act. Because I had people arguing with me,
00:30:28.840 no, it's not. Nothing was violated. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. That's the point of something as
00:30:33.940 extreme as the Emergencies Act is to say, this is so important, we need an act where we can
00:30:38.620 set aside rights to get this under control. It should be for only for something as extreme as
00:30:45.880 true riots from coast to coast or alien invasions. And even then, I'm not sure if I'd trust the
00:30:50.640 government to invoke it. But the rights are suspended. You suddenly lose that right to
00:30:55.280 assembly, that right to travel. In our case, rights, well, we ever really have a rights to
00:30:59.480 property when our bank accounts were suspended and stolen. I shouldn't say ours, mine wasn't,
00:31:03.060 but many people's were.
00:31:04.300 This was not a minor thing.
00:31:06.320 Made Canada sound like a tin pot dictatorship.
00:31:09.500 But our rights, we take them for granted.
00:31:11.580 And so now again,
00:31:12.740 when we get to the point
00:31:13.460 where we can look with hindsight,
00:31:14.420 we have judges saying,
00:31:15.320 no, we aren't even going to re-examine
00:31:16.520 what happened.
00:31:17.240 That's very distressing.
00:31:18.680 It's very problematic
00:31:19.780 because it means we've learned nothing.
00:31:21.580 Well, we have, the judges haven't,
00:31:23.940 or they don't want us to have.
00:31:25.980 And yeah, I don't think the next time,
00:31:29.680 as I said, there'll be another time.
00:31:31.180 people are going to take it as well. Plus, we're seeing the ramifications of it all now.
00:31:38.500 Things we warned about. I mean, look at the inflation right now. Look at the stuff that
00:31:43.700 happened with supply chains and how hard the state and the government and the pathetic legacy media
00:31:49.260 were in saying, no, it had nothing to do with the supply chains. Of course it did. You morons
00:31:53.340 locked people down for two years. You shut down travel. What do you think would happen? It was a
00:31:59.000 whiplash effect. Eventually, the places that used to produce goods and services, those products got
00:32:04.460 bunged up. They didn't make it through consistently. They didn't make it through directly. Prices for
00:32:09.740 things spiked. Other things ran out, and we're still dealing with it. Construction. We got a lot
00:32:16.140 of issues of why the housing crisis is happening, but I mean, part of the impact on, again, development,
00:32:22.520 expansion, and construction for a year and a half and some, let's not pretend that didn't have an
00:32:27.420 impact on it. Another area, here's some data, secondstreet.org. It's calling Craig who runs
00:32:32.700 that. He's been on the show a number of times. And this is an interesting one I saw. So from
00:32:38.000 Ontario Health, it indicates the number of patients who died waiting for surgery. Now,
00:32:42.160 this is the big hornet's nest open in Canada, but it's true. Died waiting for surgery in 2022 to
00:32:47.760 2023 is up 49% from 2021, 2022. And people say, well, if it was just a small amount, it could,
00:32:57.000 you know, sound a lot higher. Okay, well, let's get to those numbers. 2,100 people died waiting
00:33:02.080 for surgery in Ontario in that period. You know, a couple thousand people. Let's talk about the
00:33:06.320 people who died with something that's preventable. All of those 2,100 died just because the timeline
00:33:11.700 was too long? No, probably not all of them, but a lot did. I mean, you don't have to be a doctor
00:33:16.380 to know. Time is of the essence. When it comes to any kind of ailment, injury, the faster you can
00:33:21.580 get diagnosed and treated, the better your chances of survival or, you know, lack of true dire
00:33:27.760 consequences. Canada's health system is failing. It has been for a while, and it's access. This
00:33:35.260 highlights the problem. This, we will declare an emergency over something that, again, that youth
00:33:40.460 were, you know, immune to, and turn the country on its nose, and we have thousands of people dying
00:33:47.960 waiting for surgical care because we're too stubborn to admit that Canada's socialized
00:33:52.720 monopoly healthcare system is a failure because we've built our stupid national identity around
00:33:59.240 it. Oh, you know, the greatest Canadian was the founder of Canada's healthcare system. Look,
00:34:06.360 we only share our system with North Korea and Cuba. Think about that. We got to chip away at 0.98
00:34:11.680 this. People are dying, waiting for care. Socialized medicine is rationed medicine.
00:34:16.800 That's always the problem when you get this sort of thing.
00:34:19.540 Sure, it's free.
00:34:20.860 But you know what it's worth to have free medicine when you're dead?
00:34:24.720 Yeah, nothing.
00:34:26.120 And people are fleeing the country to get care elsewhere.
00:34:29.500 One of the things I had, I believe it was when I had Colin Craig on, he talked about
00:34:33.200 a lot of Canadian doctors and healthcare professionals have been leaving Canada.
00:34:37.480 They're setting up shop in other countries.
00:34:38.980 So Canadian people are taking their dollars, leaving the country, and getting Canadian 0.99
00:34:43.780 practitioners to work on them outside of the country where they're allowed to pay for it.
00:34:49.640 Nobody's saying, not many, I'm sure not saying nobody, you know, because that's where the
00:34:53.520 conversation always goes. Oh, you, you want credit card care. You want people to die, you know,
00:34:58.240 for lack of money and such as that. No, that's, that's not the case at all, but we have to stop
00:35:03.120 being so intransigent and stubborn with our system and, uh, and realize that, uh, it's gotta
00:35:10.980 I have to make some changes.
00:35:12.140 I mean, the cracks, these aren't cracks anymore.
00:35:13.820 These are people dying.
00:35:14.880 And the rate with which this is happening,
00:35:17.360 like I said, in one year,
00:35:18.820 the number of people dying waiting for care went up 49%.
00:35:21.320 That's an alarm bell, guys.
00:35:23.160 That's a big one.
00:35:24.640 And again, you know, thousands of people dying.
00:35:26.840 So we'll light the world on fire over a handful dying. 0.87
00:35:29.980 But when it's truly something going on,
00:35:31.540 when it comes to Canada's sacred healthcare system,
00:35:33.880 we're terrified of even considering reform.
00:35:36.880 Okay, I've been blathering long enough.
00:35:38.660 If I see Mr. McTeague in the waiting area, it looks like you're panting there.
00:35:43.340 I saw that you were going to be a little bit delayed, but you made it there.
00:35:46.740 We can still chat here before the end of the show.
00:35:48.900 So thanks for coming on, Dan.
00:35:50.540 Good to be here, Corey.
00:35:51.380 Sorry, Toronto traffic, parking lot, the whole darn town.
00:35:55.600 Oh, we understand.
00:35:56.960 Well, put you in the right mood for our chat.
00:35:58.660 You know, we still got 10 minutes here.
00:36:01.520 So you're with the Canadians for Affordable Energy, and boy, you've got to have a busy, busy time.
00:36:06.700 I mean, you're very outspoken on social media, but, you know, energy costs, I mean, inflation in general, and of course, energy costs impact all of it all the way down the line, are pressuring everybody.
00:36:17.880 But our government, I guess I'll just kind of start you there, seems to want to do nothing more than make things even more expensive for us.
00:36:24.880 More expensive and more confrontational in being expensive.
00:36:27.800 They're driven by an ideology, an ideology that basically says energy can be any price.
00:36:32.100 doesn't really matter canadians will go along with it as long as you can contrive and connive and
00:36:36.980 tell them that the world is coming to an end i mean i i won't get the science of this all but
00:36:41.540 the economics clearly indicates there's a big problem in this country you have a government
00:36:45.540 that's allowed energy prices to go through the roof two ways uh their green policies on carbon
00:36:50.820 taxes which cory you've talked about many many times and the second that's not discussed as much
00:36:55.380 is the blocking of pipelines and regulations which is discouraging investments leaving the
00:36:59.860 country and with it a drop in the canadian dollar which is only worth 130 135 pennies to buy one us
00:37:05.460 dollar corey that adds uh significantly to the price of everything in terms of gasoline in your
00:37:11.860 province about 26 cents a liter my province 28 in the maritimes with a 15 hst more like 30.
00:37:19.220 these are real factors driving the cost of living through the roof yes and as you can talk about
00:37:25.140 monetary policy and the government overspending and printing too much money and all these other
00:37:30.500 things but we keep tap dancing around what is in my view the elephant in the room even the
00:37:35.700 bank of canada has to recognize now finally after two terms of saying gasoline is in fact driving
00:37:42.180 inflation up and down when it's down of course the liberals take credit for it when it's up they're
00:37:46.980 conspicuously silent as we saw today or i should say yesterday uh when announcement came that in
00:37:51.860 In fact, inflation is up again.
00:37:53.380 Reality is this is a country blessed with an abundance of energy, and we are despoiling and ruining it for generations and undermining not just affordability, but I think the benefit and the gift that's been given to every Canadian of energy resources the world desperately wants, but which we have a few ideologues in Ottawa preventing it from happening.
00:38:10.980 Yeah, I mean, we are an energy powerhouse, or we should be.
00:38:14.800 I mean, the natural resources we're blessed with, whether it is the hydro in the east
00:38:18.400 or the natural gas and oil we have in the west, but we have an ideologically driven
00:38:23.060 federal government that doesn't want us to export it even.
00:38:25.760 I mean, not even talking about our domestic, you know, use of this, because it's kind
00:38:29.600 of ridiculous that we have so many energy resources.
00:38:31.780 We pay such a high domestic price, but we have a prime minister telling us there's no
00:38:35.920 business case to export it to other countries.
00:38:38.420 And then lying, as his minister of environment has done on many occasions, saying, you know,
00:38:42.920 these are industries that are making tons of profit let them let them pay their fair share
00:38:47.240 rather than passing it on to consumers you know i'm not surprised maybe he's dangled in a few too
00:38:51.960 many uh buildings and bridges and whatnot but the reality is for most of us who have spent a bit of
00:38:57.080 time in politics some of us in the real private sector in the real world and those of us trying
00:39:01.160 to struggle to make ends meet uh you know i don't come from a family of great wealth my parents both
00:39:06.280 lost their shirts back in the 1980s when the last trudeau government spent so heavily that we wound
00:39:11.160 up with 23 24 interest rates i think the country is going down that road again and when you have
00:39:16.840 leaders in this country who are determined not just to impose something they know cannot work
00:39:21.640 germany has proven that uh renewables do not work uh you know france is having trouble having to
00:39:26.760 right you know look back at coal the uk is completely in in a in a mess it wants to now
00:39:33.240 get back into permitting leases to get natural gas canada has all of these advantages and yet
00:39:38.760 we have a group of people in ottawa elites committed to shutting down the country's resources 1.00
00:39:45.320 and as a result and as a consequence shutting down our economy it's only a matter of time before
00:39:49.720 another bond rating agency comes in downgrades our credit if you think you know uh six or seven
00:39:55.240 percent interest rates are tough to handle wait till that happens you have to pay 10 or 11. then
00:39:59.880 i think things will get very real and those here my neck in the woods in toronto who live in you
00:40:04.680 you know, fantasy world believe their food is delivered by stork or by, you know, by pixie dust
00:40:09.480 will now have to get more real about the direction taken. It's a very deliberate policy by this
00:40:14.460 government to undermine the Canadian economy by throwing out everything that's good in favor of
00:40:18.560 things they know did not work. So, I mean, I believe citizens are catching on. I mean,
00:40:22.560 we see it in our pocketbooks. We see what's happening. And as you've said, European nations
00:40:27.520 have certainly had to figure it out recently. I'll ask the hardest question, though. What can we do?
00:40:33.760 I mean, we know what the government should do.
00:40:35.520 How do we change this government from its ideological course, though?
00:40:38.540 They seem blind to it.
00:40:40.140 They have 25 months to continue down this path of destruction with the NDP and with their friends in the green.
00:40:46.260 And the bloc, of course, not interested in anything more than just saying, hey, we're here.
00:40:50.180 We're here to obstruct.
00:40:52.040 We're here at the end of the day to ensure that Quebec gets its fair share.
00:40:56.720 Look, I think the country is in the wrong, is definitely down the wrong path.
00:41:01.840 and to get away from there we need a whole new uh way of approaching this i'm going to be very
00:41:06.680 blunt about this because i've been you know i've never been a member of any other party but the
00:41:10.020 liberal party but my god the conservative party today under pierre paliev reminds me a lot of my
00:41:15.220 liberal party in the 1990s practical pragmatic realistic and saying this is these are the
00:41:20.300 problems this is where we go and this is how we're going to get there to me um i can see a lot of
00:41:25.440 liberals of my generation the ones who are still working the ones who are still out there busting
00:41:29.520 their chops going in that direction. And I think that's something that the conservatives should
00:41:33.260 take very, very much to heart. Don't mess it up. We have one shot at this and the country needs a
00:41:39.120 new leadership, badly, desperately. We can't keep going the way we are right now. Well, and we could
00:41:44.980 be hitting other crisis within this next 25 months, particularly constitutionally or unity-wise. I
00:41:50.760 mean, the battle that's brewing up between Premier Daniel Smith and Environmental Minister Gilboa,
00:41:56.040 I mean, I haven't seen that sort of language, you know, between a premier and a federal government from the West anyways.
00:42:03.260 I mean, it's it's getting more reminiscent of Rene Levesque than anything else I've heard in a while.
00:42:09.120 I mean, this could really blow up in a big way.
00:42:11.440 Well, it is. And it already, I think, has become very apparent.
00:42:14.080 You know, Smith's not backing off. Scott Moe's not backing off.
00:42:16.520 I suspect in Manitoba they go the same way.
00:42:18.680 But the one I've spent a lot more time working on is and looking at has been the Atlantic provinces, the so-called red wall.
00:42:24.320 It's gone. It's evaporated.
00:42:26.040 overnight in Nova Scotia when you saw a 30 40 cent a litre increase hitting
00:42:30.720 people who happen to be you know far less better off than the rest of the
00:42:34.420 country on average when you start hitting them and impacting them and then saying
00:42:37.960 oh here's a bit of here's a here's a here's a couple of pennies to pay you
00:42:42.060 back in terms of a rebate which they know don't work when you start hitting
00:42:44.980 consumers you start making people poor you force them to make decisions that
00:42:50.340 they are not comfortable with I expect that the real blowback is going to come
00:42:53.600 provinces like Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, PEI, and Newfoundland, when on election night, when
00:42:57.880 that should happen, and liberals know this, they lose most of the seats in that region of the
00:43:01.360 country, then the rest of it will be a steamroll. Because I think here in Ontario, with some
00:43:05.500 exceptions, I think we're going the same direction as well. Yeah, well, ideals and green dreams or
00:43:10.440 even family loyalty to particular parties tends to go out the window if you can't make the rent
00:43:14.620 or the mortgage payment, or you're worried about getting your kids through school or even buying
00:43:18.260 groceries for some people. So I could see a definite turnabout in the Atlantic provinces.
00:43:23.300 It's just my fear.
00:43:24.400 I mean, especially it just made me cringe when you mentioned it.
00:43:26.880 The amount of damage they could do in 25 more months, though, could be pretty excessive.
00:43:30.520 It can.
00:43:30.920 And I think Canadians have to know that and they have to be more outspoken.
00:43:33.880 You get a pollster calling, you tell them you're not happy, you're not going to support
00:43:36.880 this particular coalition government.
00:43:38.820 I think when it gets to 40 and 45 percent for the pure Pallief conservatives, I think 0.93
00:43:43.740 we may very well see Mr. Trudeau take a long walk off a surfboard in Tofino somewhere.
00:43:49.840 Yeah, I was speculating earlier that that might come pretty soon.
00:43:52.640 But I mean, you know, when you look at the pool that this Liberal Party, I said it when I introduced before at the start of the show when you were coming on.
00:43:59.400 I said, you know, you're a member from back in the days when Liberals were pragmatic and sane.
00:44:03.840 Now it's a party dominated by ideologues.
00:44:06.580 I don't know where or who they might draw for a leadership that might turn things around.
00:44:11.840 But I guess we could hope.
00:44:12.780 I mean, there's still people out there that might turn that party around a bit.
00:44:17.260 I don't think so.
00:44:18.260 I mean, the damage is done.
00:44:19.780 And I think at this point, it's trying to protect the 70 or 90 or 100 members you think you can keep by having a transition at the leadership level.
00:44:28.640 But if you're going to keep on the same dangerous path to economic perdition, good luck with that.
00:44:34.520 You might be reduced to a rump, the same which I saw in 2011.
00:44:38.580 There's significant consequences and blowback coming.
00:44:41.120 I think people see it every day.
00:44:42.620 Every time there's an interest rate increase, more and more people's noses go on the proverbial waterline.
00:44:47.720 Food prices are endemically inflationary, driven by energy prices to a large extent, which this federal government seems to be committed insanely at trying to raise.
00:44:57.200 We should be pulling back, removing those carbon taxes, hitting net zero hard and saying if we can achieve it scientifically, fine.
00:45:05.020 If not, scrap it, because it's an idea that is extraordinarily pernicious to Canada and is likely to lead not just to economic dislocation,
00:45:13.080 but potentially to a constitutional crisis on a scale I haven't seen in my lifetime.
00:45:17.200 and I've been around a few of them. Yeah. Well, I appreciate it. I mean,
00:45:21.600 we can keep pointing it out at least and letting people know and at least moving towards a better
00:45:28.400 future, hopefully with things. And that's what you've been doing out there. So before I let you
00:45:32.400 go, where can people find you with the Canadians for Affordable Energy and then Gas Price Buddy
00:45:37.440 and such? Yeah, sure. AffordableEnergy.ca is a site I often put my blogs up on. If you want
00:45:44.000 gas price predictions gaswizard.ca is probably the easiest one and if you need to get a hold of
00:45:49.520 me on twitter gas price wizard i'm usually there uh usually having a little bit of fun with everybody
00:45:54.160 yes so likewise twitter is kind of my favorite playground too but there's some serious business
00:45:57.840 goes on there as well so i appreciate you rushing in to come to talk to us today and this stuff you
00:46:02.800 do dan i mean as i said you know it sure it could be a long wait but i mean we can mitigate the
00:46:07.680 damage by continually exposing this and pushing while we can and uh well just hope for the best
00:46:13.040 Back at you, Corey. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate this.
00:46:15.560 All right. Thanks, Dan. Yes, that was Dan McTeague. As I said, one of the last of a generation of liberals who used to be sane. And there's still a few hiding out there and everything. But things change, you know. And hey, you know, if the conservatives are in too long and do the wrong things, it's time to turn around on them and look at something different too. But they're just so ideologically driven now. I'm glad Dan got in for the tail end of the program there, though. It's always good to talk to him. As I said, check him out online. He's very outspoken.
00:46:42.680 and a good voice to listen to on energy issues.
00:46:45.180 Because hey, energy prices hit you everywhere.
00:46:48.320 All right, that's all the time we've got today, guys.
00:46:51.300 It does go by fast,
00:46:52.300 even when I'm babbling away for a guest
00:46:54.220 who was a little bit delayed.
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