Western Standard - May 22, 2024


CMS: Climate alarmists don't want the drought to end


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

185.28174

Word Count

8,979

Sentence Count

663

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

The weather has finally started to get better in Alberta, and it's a good thing. Will climate alarmists ever get over their fear of good weather? Or will they continue to complain about the lack of it?


Transcript

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00:01:00.000 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show. We're getting towards the end of May. I see lots of you guys already in the comments, girl. Good to see you. I love seeing it active. Yes, everyone likes talking about the weather, especially when we're talking about weather patterns, climate change, disasters, and of course droughts, and that's what I'm going to talk a little more about in a bit.
00:01:28.380 But I'm a cheap man. I walked downtown to the studio from quite a ways away, so I don't have to pay for that excessive parking we have in Calgary. And I tell you, it was a wet, miserable walk to get here, but I saved a few bucks, so it was worth it to me. So yeah, be sure to use that comment, girl, guys, and chat with each other. It's good to see folks are out there. I see all of those comments. I don't necessarily read them all out, but it keeps the flow going and lets me know there are folks out there watching.
00:01:54.840 For guests, I'm going to be talking to Darcy Giroux in a little while. He's an organizer of the Capitalism and Morality Conference. It's coming up this weekend in Calgary. We're going to do a little bit of political geekery. I want to talk about liberty, libertarianism, a little bit of poli-sci sort of stuff, but it's important, you know, and I'm kind of wondering whatever did happen to classic liberalism.
00:02:17.740 So we're going to talk a little bit about that in about 15 minutes. But first, let's talk back and circle back around to the weather and what's got me going. It's been interesting with the people worked up with me on X, you know, formerly Twitter, and people get mad at me on there all the time. That's hardly anything new.
00:02:32.580 But this was more than usual, and over the weather, and over my daring to even speak about it. So I think, well, then I better speak about it some more. So let's talk.
00:02:42.540 Alberta, it's been in a drought for a couple of years, and it's been bad. I mean, last fall, the normally smooth-flowing creek that bounds my property out by Prittis, it's been reduced to a trickle. I've never seen anything like it.
00:02:53.120 The reservoirs around the province, they were getting low, and last winter was relatively dry. And if things remain dry, you know, the province could be facing another rough year for agricultural producers and with the forest fires.
00:03:04.620 But things appear to be turning around. According to data, actually, from Environment and Natural Resources Canada, Alberta's precipitation has been above average since March.
00:03:15.400 Let's look at the numbers. Cumulatively, from March 1st until the end of May in 2023, Alberta had 55.6 millimeters of precipitation over those three months. So that's not very much for spring.
00:03:25.480 Now, this year, from March 1st until May 20th was when I took the last update from it. Alberta's had 145 millimeters of precipitation, and there were still 11 days left to go, and they're raining right now.
00:03:37.020 So precipitation's on track to have tripled in the last three months versus last year.
00:03:42.240 Now, when we were even talking about it back then, when the snow and rains began in March, the doomsayers were quick to warn us it's just a one-off, you know.
00:03:50.140 But when the precipitation continued into April, the climate hysterics point out this needs to be sustained, though, to moisturize the ground. It's not fixing anything.
00:03:57.960 Well, as the rains kept falling into May, they're now howling. The reservoirs are still below average capacity.
00:04:03.520 Is it ever enough? Will the climate alarmists ever be able to bring themselves to celebrate good weather?
00:04:09.120 No, actually, they can't. Because climate alarmists are cultists.
00:04:14.340 They've wrapped their world around the perception that they're always living in a state of emergency, and they enjoy it.
00:04:20.180 It makes them feel that they're special, and they're living in singular times.
00:04:24.480 It's no coincidence that climate alarmists tend to be the same ones who never wanted the COVID-19 state of emergency to end.
00:04:30.280 I mean, you can still see them today. They're walking around with their masks. They're driving alone with them if they have a car.
00:04:34.220 However, politicians, they're on a different part, but they still love using the climate alarmism to impose restrictive policies.
00:04:40.980 Calgary Mayor Yodi Gondek declared a climate emergency as soon as she took office.
00:04:45.780 She then proposed an insane $87 billion plan to deal with it for a city.
00:04:50.980 Strangely, the cure for climate change is always some form of high-spending socialism.
00:04:55.220 It's almost as if socialists are trying to use the perception of emergencies as a means to impose their ideology.
00:05:01.380 It's just the democratic efforts to impose it aren't working fast enough.
00:05:05.760 Now, last weekend, I had to make a quick trip out to the mountains to take care of some business,
00:05:10.700 and I couldn't help but notice how high the streams and rivers are right now.
00:05:14.680 I was also happy to see there's still a lot of heavy snowpack remaining on top of the mountains.
00:05:18.700 This means the melt that's going to be coming in June is going to continue to fill Alberta's reservoirs with the runoff all the way out to Saskatchewan.
00:05:26.420 And I posted a picture of those mountains on X, and I celebrated what appeared to be weather patterns shifting away from a drought.
00:05:32.140 It was just a positive and happy posting.
00:05:34.600 Well, the response I got was swift and visceral.
00:05:37.300 Climate alarmists were furious that I dared to question the state of emergency with mere anecdotal evidence.
00:05:43.180 When I posted the data proving my assertions were based on more than just my observations on a drive,
00:05:49.400 they howled that I'm not an expert or a scientist.
00:05:52.100 It should be noted that the experts and scientists were predicting a hot, dry spring in Alberta,
00:05:57.320 so they missed that mark rather dramatically.
00:06:00.280 In reality, weather forecasters can't predict the weather very accurately beyond a couple of weeks.
00:06:04.840 They can make broad, long-term speculations, but as we can see this year,
00:06:08.180 those tend not to be much more accurate than what you would get from shaking a magic eight ball
00:06:12.140 or asking a groundhog on February 2nd.
00:06:15.660 Canada might be in for years of drought, years of flooding, or years of moderate weather.
00:06:20.180 I don't know, and I'll tell you what, the experts don't bloody well know either.
00:06:23.740 And thanks to the massive size of the country,
00:06:25.740 alarmists can cherry-pick the regions to try and make their case
00:06:28.920 while ignoring weather predictions that were inaccurate in other areas.
00:06:32.800 Alberta isn't poised to be needing severe water use restrictions,
00:06:36.020 even though we were warned dramatically constantly of this for the last couple of months.
00:06:39.920 And the spring wildfire season, it appears to have already come to an end.
00:06:44.160 Soil's hydrated, and farmers could be in for some excellent crops this year.
00:06:48.120 We should always plan for the worst, but we can't live in constant fear of it.
00:06:52.000 So dismiss those morose, miserable climate zealots who want to bring us all down with their dire predictions.
00:06:57.600 They're never going to be content.
00:06:59.440 When we get good weather, we should enjoy it and celebrate it.
00:07:02.660 And I know I will, at least until I've got to mow that ever-growing lawn I've got
00:07:06.520 that's just sprouting up in this drought right now.
00:07:09.900 All right, enough of my pissing and moaning.
00:07:11.600 Let's get Dave Naylor in to see what's going on in the rest of the world of the news.
00:07:14.680 Hey, Dave, how's it going?
00:07:15.620 It's going well, Corey. How are you?
00:07:17.540 Pretty good, actually.
00:07:18.760 Good, yeah. You seem in a good mood.
00:07:20.360 Yeah, not too bad.
00:07:21.340 I was actually out in Golden, not this weekend, but last weekend.
00:07:25.820 And I couldn't believe the amount of snow up there in the mountains that's still got to come down.
00:07:29.840 Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, the heavy flow season is still coming.
00:07:33.720 That's what fills the reservoirs and such, as long as it doesn't come too fast and burst the rivers.
00:07:37.580 But, again, it's beyond our control.
00:07:39.280 But either way, we're not looking that dry.
00:07:40.980 No. I think Nico's got a photo, if he could bring up, of your compound out in Prittis.
00:07:48.260 That's the creek that runs through the edge of it.
00:07:50.960 It's up there, isn't it?
00:07:52.520 Are you and Jane got sandbags ready?
00:07:55.500 Well, thankfully, our house is a little bit up on the hill off to the right from where that picture is.
00:07:59.640 So unless we're getting sort of Noah's Ark sort of water levels going on, we should be safe.
00:08:05.800 But as you can see, that's Fish Creek, actually, out by Prittis.
00:08:08.900 And it doesn't have very far before it comes to the top of those banks.
00:08:12.920 Like, there's a lot of water on the move right now.
00:08:15.580 There certainly is.
00:08:16.780 Leading off our side story is like a Ripley's Believe It or Not type story, where the federal government is going to pay $12 million to hunt a few hundred deer on a small BC island.
00:08:31.840 This is a Parks Canada plan to eradicate the deer because they're eating all the native grasses.
00:08:37.660 In phase one of the operation, they flew in hunters from New Zealand, of all places, and they were up in helicopters shooting at them.
00:08:47.780 And they failed miserably.
00:08:49.340 Didn't get very many deer at all.
00:08:52.000 In fact, the next couple of weeks, locals in the area went in and killed about three times as many.
00:08:57.900 But now they're about to launch phase two of the operation, the ground operation.
00:09:03.040 They're going to be using hunting dogs and all that sort of stuff to kill all these deer.
00:09:08.300 And the total cost is $12 million, according to documents obtained by the Canadian Federation of Taxpayers.
00:09:16.160 Or Canadian Taxpayers Federation, I'm sorry.
00:09:18.420 I mean, what a country.
00:09:20.440 I mean, all you'd have to do is open it up to the public, and they'd be gone in a weekend, wouldn't they?
00:09:25.400 Well, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of people who would actually spend good money for the privilege of going out to kill an animal.
00:09:32.240 We have one right here in our office who talks about it quite often, actually.
00:09:35.820 I mean, hey, to each their own.
00:09:37.480 So how on earth are we spending money on something somebody would pay us to do?
00:09:40.560 Only government can come up with that.
00:09:42.320 Yeah, it's only in Canada, I think, Corey.
00:09:45.640 We've got tragic news coming out of Edmonton, which police have revealed a 15-year-old boy was slain
00:09:52.500 and some sort of altercation in northwest Edmonton yesterday.
00:09:56.920 Details are sketchy, but a man that the boy apparently knows has been taken into custody
00:10:04.220 and is set to appear in court, and an autopsy will take place on Friday.
00:10:09.560 So stay tuned for more details.
00:10:12.160 We've got a new poll out by Janet Brown showing the UCP basically maintaining their support
00:10:18.960 that they had in the last election, despite bringing in a whole bunch of policies
00:10:26.760 that the left wing has been screaming holy murder on.
00:10:31.580 NDP is still nipping at their heels.
00:10:34.660 We've got a column from our Anthony Crusher, who is wondering where the Liberals get their
00:10:41.140 crazy economic ideas from.
00:10:43.500 And you'll remember back in the halcyon days of sunny ways, the Prime Minister said the budgets
00:10:49.380 balance themselves.
00:10:50.960 So I'm sure that'll all be mentioned in there.
00:10:54.900 And an interesting story on the London drugs.
00:10:57.160 You remember a couple of weeks ago they had to be shut down because they were hacked in a
00:11:01.720 ransomware attack.
00:11:02.700 Well, they've received a ransom note.
00:11:05.740 They have to pay $25 million to this shadowy group, I think based in Russia, or their detailed
00:11:13.340 prescription list will be revealed to the public.
00:11:16.520 So Thursday deadline to pay that amount of money.
00:11:19.980 And a judge has blocked the auction of Graceland.
00:11:24.320 Some people were, or a group was trying to maybe sell it to foreclose on it.
00:11:29.160 And the judges said, hang on a second.
00:11:31.380 He was all shook up and put a hold on it.
00:11:34.940 So the potential auctioners are now at the Heartbreak Hotel, Corey.
00:11:40.880 Oh boy.
00:11:41.480 That one gave you all sorts of opportunities for your cheesy wordplay.
00:11:45.720 But great work.
00:11:46.840 I have to give credit to the author of the story, Michael Thomas.
00:11:49.920 So not all mine.
00:11:51.200 Well, you two work well together on it.
00:11:54.920 Well, we'll see what more comes out of that one.
00:11:58.240 Okay.
00:11:58.780 Well, thanks for the updates, Dave.
00:12:00.260 Lots on the go.
00:12:01.100 I'll let you get back there and see if you can't find another gem full of puns to play
00:12:04.860 with.
00:12:05.520 Well, I think I got a few in my back pocket.
00:12:07.520 Right on.
00:12:08.380 Thanks, Corey.
00:12:09.340 That's our news editor, Dave Naylor.
00:12:11.820 And yes, he's always a busy guy.
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00:13:10.080 I'll just talk a little bit before I get to my guest about, you know, one of the stories
00:13:13.020 Dave was talking about, you know, a little more background.
00:13:14.800 And the whole story is on the Western Standard site, westernstandard.news.
00:13:17.920 But yeah, this is pure government on so many levels.
00:13:22.600 Now, the reason that these deer need to be shot, because I don't think we quite covered
00:13:26.000 that bit, was they're invasive.
00:13:27.880 They aren't natural.
00:13:30.540 They're not a run of the mill.
00:13:31.740 They're not like mule deer and white tail deer that we would have.
00:13:33.840 There's some other type that I imagine somebody brought in for their private hunting, and
00:13:37.480 they're all stuck on an island over on the West Coast.
00:13:39.700 So they're somewhat contained.
00:13:41.480 You know, they aren't spreading all through.
00:13:43.520 Because, God, if they went all the way through BC, there's no way we'd be able to hunt them
00:13:46.340 out.
00:13:46.480 But even fish in a barrel or deer on an island, our government is incapable of dealing with
00:13:51.740 these things.
00:13:52.640 And this is the idiocy.
00:13:54.340 It reminds me of public art.
00:13:55.720 You know, we see it in Calgary.
00:13:56.620 We need more public art.
00:13:57.380 We need more public art.
00:13:58.220 All right, let's contract some German sourced public art.
00:14:00.840 Well, wait a minute, are there not artists here?
00:14:02.400 Oh, no, we've got to get the foreign ones.
00:14:04.180 Why are we bringing hunters from New Zealand to shoot deer on an island here?
00:14:08.900 And here's some of the numbers of how good these hunters were.
00:14:11.160 They used a helicopter.
00:14:12.740 Yeah, they used a helicopter to shoot these little fellas.
00:14:15.620 And they shot 84 of them.
00:14:17.480 It came up to over 10,000 a head for the deer they shot.
00:14:20.980 And it turns out that 18 of the 84 were the wrong kind of deer.
00:14:26.780 So they shot the natural deer along with the invasive deer.
00:14:30.280 Good work.
00:14:31.300 That's fine, fine effort on your part.
00:14:35.360 And as we said earlier, we've got a country full of hunters.
00:14:38.440 We've got grocery bills going through the roof.
00:14:41.100 We've got people who would have paid, paid to go out and shoot these deer off season if
00:14:46.740 indeed they really need to be shot.
00:14:48.480 But leave it to government.
00:14:50.500 And I'm sorry, why do we see these things happening?
00:14:52.740 We know it.
00:14:53.480 Somebody somewhere in the middle probably made some pretty good money getting that contract
00:15:00.360 to certain people.
00:15:01.560 I mean, this is getting more and more common.
00:15:03.560 That tends to be the explanation that comes down to the bottom of some of these bizarre
00:15:06.800 government contracts and things that go out to tender.
00:15:10.560 It probably didn't go to tender.
00:15:11.520 I bet it was sole sourced.
00:15:12.840 But it's so ridiculous, yet so typical.
00:15:15.320 And off to the races we go again.
00:15:19.320 So I'll say, wait, I'm going to talk to my guest when I want to talk about smaller government.
00:15:23.260 The smaller government we get, probably the better chance that at least we could avoid
00:15:26.800 some of these ripoffs and such.
00:15:29.020 And that means, you know, coming towards a libertarian point of view.
00:15:33.240 I want to talk about classical liberalism because, I mean, if I were to categorize myself,
00:15:37.920 I think of myself as a classical liberal.
00:15:39.780 Unfortunately, contemporary liberal parties have sort of ruined the word.
00:15:44.680 And the liberty part has been lost.
00:15:47.120 So let's bring Darcy Jarreau in and talk about some of these things.
00:15:50.560 Hey, Darcy, how are you doing?
00:15:53.420 Corey, it's good to see you.
00:15:55.360 I'm doing well.
00:15:55.940 Thanks for having me.
00:15:58.200 Yeah, no, I appreciate it.
00:15:59.960 You know, I just wanted to get into some political talk.
00:16:02.240 Look, it's, you know, as I said, I think of myself as more of a libertarian, classical liberal.
00:16:09.220 Well, you don't hear about that these days.
00:16:11.060 You know, we're living in a polarized political world where it just seems to be talking about
00:16:14.880 my team and that team.
00:16:16.740 And people are kind of forgetting about the principles, perhaps, of what they might stand
00:16:20.160 for in the first place.
00:16:21.680 What do you think of that interpretation of things?
00:16:24.920 Oh, I think it's an exactly, perfectly accurate interpretation.
00:16:28.440 Highly, highly polarized, you know, totally absent of the foundation of liberalism, classical
00:16:41.880 liberalism, as you and I would call it, you know, where self-ownership, autonomy, and kind
00:16:53.160 of the corresponding rights of property and self-defense are paramount.
00:16:59.980 They are the foundation of the society.
00:17:03.820 Yeah, and I mean, I think both of the prime two parties we have up there used to embrace
00:17:09.660 elements of personal liberty, and I think neither of them are really promoting them terribly
00:17:14.100 much any longer.
00:17:15.160 I mean, the liberals, or at least the left, hey, they were responsible for getting the
00:17:20.420 government out of our bedrooms and, you know, allowing us to live our lives as adults and
00:17:25.280 things such as that.
00:17:26.360 But at the same time, they went and turned around and got more intrusive with just about
00:17:30.160 everything else we do.
00:17:31.220 And then the conservative side of it, they talked about smaller government and getting
00:17:34.900 out of subsidies or high taxes.
00:17:37.620 But now it's just a matter of degree.
00:17:40.080 I mean, you know, the conservatives won't even talk about getting rid of supply management.
00:17:43.360 And that's about as non-liberty-minded a policy as you could ever imagine.
00:17:49.840 Yeah, no, you are absolutely right.
00:17:52.200 And I think where, you know, we have to look at this is, you know, first of all, I think
00:17:59.800 there's a lot of nostalgia for, you know, Canada in the early days of Confederation as some
00:18:07.920 sort of beacon of classical liberalism, which, you know, isn't entirely evident in the, you
00:18:16.440 know, the British North America Act or anything like that.
00:18:18.860 There's not a whole lot there saying that they were trying to build a, you know, there's not
00:18:24.980 a whole lot there saying that they were up to anything outside of imperialism, right?
00:18:29.400 And, and, and then the other thing is to remember that historically, you know, liberalism was
00:18:36.700 a, was a moral doctrine.
00:18:38.440 I mean, it was, it was influenced by the Stoics, right?
00:18:43.640 And it was, and what ends up happening when you take that sort of doctrine based on private
00:18:49.820 property based on self-ownership and you implement it into a, a political, a political narrative.
00:19:00.120 It loses some of its, it loses some of its, some of its weight in that if the foundation
00:19:07.780 is private property and self-ownership, you are, you are naturally, and then when you hand
00:19:13.780 over authority to tax and regulate, when you open that door to the state, you are naturally
00:19:20.880 going to lose some of that self-ownership, autonomy, and rights of property instantly.
00:19:28.880 So what you're left with is not true liberalism or, or libertarianism.
00:19:34.540 What you're left with is a response to liberalism or true liberalism.
00:19:40.660 And, and, and like you say, we end up with what we would consider modern or contemporary
00:19:46.240 liberalism, which is basically socialism.
00:19:49.180 It's a, a, an egalitarian response to true liberalism.
00:19:54.000 And you end up with conservatism, which is a reactionary response to liberalism, but they
00:20:01.060 only tend to react to whatever type of liberalism is directly in front of them.
00:20:06.260 They tend, like 300 years ago, they, the conservatives were defending feudalism.
00:20:12.340 Today, they're, you know, looking to still maintain that status quo, but I think they'd be happy
00:20:19.000 if we rolled back the state to, you know, Jean Chrétien's liberal party, right?
00:20:25.600 Well, yeah, we seem to be in a kind of a steady progression to the left, but I think part of
00:20:30.380 that's just due to the fact that whether it's a conservative government or a liberal government,
00:20:34.220 they can't seem to help themselves in making the government bigger and bigger and bigger.
00:20:38.040 And then by its very nature, it's going to become more intrusive, more controlling.
00:20:42.160 It's going to need to be fed more.
00:20:43.860 That means they have to take more.
00:20:45.680 And if we struggle against it, they have to take our liberties so they can take more while
00:20:49.640 they're at it now.
00:20:50.400 But that's not going to change overnight.
00:20:52.920 I like to think it's going to change eventually.
00:20:55.080 And I don't want to, you know, tell people to give up on politics, but how do we change it?
00:20:59.920 How do we influence?
00:21:00.540 I mean, we've had a libertarian party since the 70s, and it sits there and says all the
00:21:04.180 right things, but it's just always kind of sits off, you know, on the fringe.
00:21:08.180 I ran for them in one election, as a matter of fact.
00:21:10.300 I mean, it's great on principle, but does it have an impact?
00:21:13.140 And how can we impact then, whether it's the conservatives or the liberal, maybe to at
00:21:17.080 least mitigate and bring a little more liberty into the governance that we have right now?
00:21:21.860 Sure.
00:21:24.280 Well, it's not an easy task.
00:21:26.860 And I will say I'm not very optimistic, and I'm not entirely sure that, you know, I mean,
00:21:35.920 I've been a member of the Libertarian Party.
00:21:37.720 I've been the deputy leader of the Libertarian Party.
00:21:40.100 And I, but I will, I'll say I'm not optimistic in that it's, this is all a political solution.
00:21:49.720 I mean, a lot of it is, you know, we have to encourage people to, you know, to actually
00:21:56.180 learn these ideas and embrace these ideas.
00:21:58.680 Once, once you have a, especially in a huge democracy like, like Canada, I mean, they, you
00:22:06.200 know, 51% of the people can always, can always steal from the other 49% of the population in
00:22:11.880 a country like Canada.
00:22:12.700 And so we really need people to learn about these ideas and, you know, and embrace the
00:22:20.800 ideas of like sound economic theory, natural rights theory, you know, the, the types of
00:22:27.780 things that the, the classical liberal thinkers tried to entrench in, into policy.
00:22:34.100 Right.
00:22:35.980 But it's, it's not an easy task.
00:22:38.720 I mean, the, um, but what, but once people learn that and once the, once, you know, Canadians
00:22:46.340 are, that's what they're demanding, that's what their politicians will deliver.
00:22:52.200 I mean, I think we have to look at it in a way that, you know, we're not expecting some
00:22:56.000 politician to come in and save us.
00:22:57.720 What we're expecting is for us to make those demands on them.
00:23:02.640 I mean, the, we, we, we both know the conservatives or the liberals will bend, uh, because all they
00:23:09.620 want is, you know, they want to get elected.
00:23:12.800 And if we put, if we, if we put demands on them, um, it will happen, but it takes, it,
00:23:18.080 it takes, you know, a huge swath of the population embracing these ideas.
00:23:25.320 Well, yeah, we, we have the population has been well programmed to say government should
00:23:29.500 do this.
00:23:29.960 Government should do that whenever there's a problem where their first recourse should
00:23:33.460 be, what could we do fine?
00:23:35.420 If you want to talk collectively, or even as an individual, what can I do to address this
00:23:38.840 problem?
00:23:39.480 Government should be the solution of last resort, not the first one, but that's some very
00:23:44.100 deeply entrenched attitude, uh, that's really grown.
00:23:47.320 And I think is growing among people right now, but I mean, government's really starting
00:23:51.480 to fail.
00:23:52.020 They're not managing to achieve any of the things they say they're going to do year after
00:23:56.080 year after year as well.
00:23:57.020 Well, they set targets and they miss them all the time.
00:23:59.500 Do you think it's possible that we could redirect people when they realize you see you're asking
00:24:03.400 the wrong, uh, you know, group or, or you're, you're, you're promoting the wrong tool to
00:24:08.220 solve the problems you perceive to have.
00:24:13.220 Like I say, I don't, I don't want to say that it's impossible.
00:24:15.440 I mean, I, I actually work hard to, to do that.
00:24:18.300 Um, but I'm, I'm still not optimistic.
00:24:20.660 I mean, that's part of you, you know, that's part of the reason we hold our seminar in Calgary
00:24:24.580 is to bring people in and, and talk about these ideas.
00:24:28.440 Um, you know, that's part of the reason, you know, why I am an advocate for liberty.
00:24:32.660 I just, I, I don't know how likely it is.
00:24:38.060 And I mean, the other option is, um, you know, the, this thing, this thing that is Canada
00:24:44.600 will collapse under itself, under its own weight at some point, if, if that doesn't change.
00:24:49.580 So, um, you know, and you, and you see it all over the place, you see, um, you know,
00:24:54.740 secession movements, um, um, becoming, gaining popularity, you see, uh, huge political divisions.
00:25:04.600 I mean, the, the political divides we're looking at today are, are not easily overcome.
00:25:09.720 And, and that is really a sign of, you know, the, the end of something.
00:25:14.940 I mean, uh, we, we are closer to some sort of, um, you know, I, I don't even know what
00:25:21.840 it might look like, I mean, but it, it is not, it is not a cohesive society.
00:25:27.760 And, uh, so there are things you can advocate for, you know, major, major radical decentralization,
00:25:35.440 um, lower taxation, regionalism, those sorts of things, um, you know, leaving, leaving people
00:25:42.440 alone.
00:25:43.880 Um, and a lot of those ideas are, um, you know, that those are kind of easy sales for
00:25:51.760 people because nobody wants, nobody wants, um, somebody in, you know, say the conservatives
00:25:57.920 get in next time and you're going to have a bunch of left-wing cities that don't want
00:26:02.180 to live under the, um, you know, the yoke of, uh, a conservative, uh, central government.
00:26:11.680 And, and so it is a pretty easy sell as long as it's, as long as you're advocating it consistently,
00:26:17.320 um, throughout different political administrations, but it still takes time.
00:26:24.180 Yeah.
00:26:24.620 The consistency is hard, especially when people start wearing a partisan banner and then they
00:26:28.160 look the other way when their team does something, uh, that intrudes on Liberty, but, uh, scream
00:26:32.560 bloody murder when the other team does it.
00:26:34.260 I mean, you want to, you have more credibility if you're critical of both sides.
00:26:37.920 Um, I mean, one area of orthodoxy in Canada has been public health care.
00:26:42.760 That's a massive one.
00:26:43.980 You know, it's a huge part of, of what we spend our taxes on.
00:26:47.220 It's bloated.
00:26:48.040 It's one of those areas though, where everybody seems to agree government is responsible for
00:26:51.680 it, but it's not working.
00:26:53.360 I mean, you see people shift towards thinking about change once they get a personal kick
00:26:57.360 in the butt.
00:26:57.860 And I think we're starting to see that, that personal kick in the butt with healthcare,
00:27:01.500 like people realizing maybe it's starting to drive home.
00:27:04.980 Yes.
00:27:05.180 You've got free healthcare.
00:27:06.460 As long as you can survive six months to get in, to get it.
00:27:09.960 And it's becoming, you know, more common all over the place.
00:27:12.960 I think maybe people are being more receptive to realize maybe we can start looking at options
00:27:17.380 where I'm going to be a little bit responsible directly for my healthcare, uh, and government
00:27:21.800 will be maybe a part of it, but you know, we can start chipping away at that monopoly healthcare
00:27:26.360 system.
00:27:26.820 I mean, if we could slay that sacred cow or at least, you know, reduce it, I think we're
00:27:32.120 really moving in the right direction on just about everything else.
00:27:34.520 Oh, Oh, I fully, I fully agree.
00:27:38.600 And, you know, I think there's, I think there's a good opportunity there for, uh, you know,
00:27:43.000 some, you know, kind of the extreme left and the extreme right to, to make a, uh, to make
00:27:50.920 some inroads because you have people on the, on the left who are, you know, um, you know,
00:27:56.860 not to, not to put them down, but you know, they're like granola eating type people who,
00:28:02.540 uh, uh, don't believe in pharmaceuticals and that sort of thing.
00:28:07.280 And on the, on the other far end of the right spectrum, you have people who are, uh, you know,
00:28:12.940 especially after COVID very much, very much the same, uh, you know, very leery of these,
00:28:17.860 um, pharmaceutical companies.
00:28:20.340 And also, um, kind of maintain that, uh, idea of, of freedom, uh, when it comes to their
00:28:28.580 healthcare choices.
00:28:30.320 And you're absolutely right that, you know, presently, I mean, look at Calgary.
00:28:34.680 I mean, you can't, I mean, uh, emergency waiting times are 12, 14 hours every day.
00:28:39.720 And, and ultimately you can say that the government is responsible for healthcare,
00:28:46.020 but if you're waiting, if you show up there and you're waiting 12, 14 hours and you're
00:28:51.460 in bad condition, ultimately, you know, ultimately you're the one who is responsible.
00:28:56.780 Like you have to do whatever it's going to take to save your life at that point, because
00:29:00.460 you're not, you're, there's a good chance.
00:29:02.160 You're not going to get the help that you need.
00:29:04.620 Well, yeah.
00:29:05.240 And the dollars are flooding out already.
00:29:07.100 I mean, people who leave the country for private care aren't necessarily rich.
00:29:11.460 They're just desperate.
00:29:12.380 I mean, if I was told that, Hey, Corey, you need this heart surgery within a month, or
00:29:16.840 you're probably going to be dead.
00:29:18.140 We'll schedule you in for three months from now.
00:29:20.560 Well, what am I going to do?
00:29:21.700 I'm going to refinance my house and I'm going to go to Vietnam and get it done.
00:29:25.120 I mean, it's a matter literally of life and death at that point.
00:29:27.860 And people are starting to get faced with that decision.
00:29:30.700 Uh, and, and we're getting to know others.
00:29:33.200 I mean, it's just, yeah, it's always the other guy, but now when it comes to health,
00:29:36.060 eventually it always becomes you at some point or another.
00:29:38.840 So I'm just looking at, I guess, one of those cracks where we could have an opportunity to
00:29:42.740 talk to people and say, look, we can do better for ourselves.
00:29:45.720 Uh, this is one of the big areas where, you know, some room for Liberty could actually
00:29:49.260 make your life better.
00:29:50.320 And that's, I think what helps to sell.
00:29:53.660 Oh, for sure.
00:29:54.620 For sure.
00:29:55.040 Um, yeah.
00:29:57.020 And again, it kind of, it, that kind of plays into what I was saying before about these
00:30:00.960 organizations, you know, call it the Canadian government, but even, you know, healthcare.
00:30:04.780 I mean, the thing is collapsing under its own weight.
00:30:07.320 It's a huge bureaucratic nightmare and it's, and you can't get the service you need and it
00:30:13.720 is collapsing and people are looking for other options.
00:30:16.120 I mean, people are not only are they leaving the country for healthcare, they're looking
00:30:21.160 at lots of alternative options, lots of like witch doctory type stuff and black market options
00:30:27.260 too.
00:30:27.680 So, I mean, this is, that's what happens when, uh, the state has a monopoly on these sorts
00:30:33.740 of things.
00:30:35.180 Oh, absolutely.
00:30:36.300 Well, I mean, there's only so much we can cover in 15 minutes, but that'll lead me up to
00:30:40.320 before I let you go.
00:30:41.120 We're going to Saturday in Calgary, there's going to be an opportunity to have a whole
00:30:44.580 day to listen to myself and you and, and a whole bunch of other, uh, liberty minded
00:30:49.100 people at a conference.
00:30:50.500 Uh, where could people go if they wanted to join the, uh, capitalism and morality, uh,
00:30:55.180 conference there, uh, Darcy?
00:30:57.280 Go to, go to capitalismandmorality.com.
00:31:01.820 Uh, we have lots of great guests.
00:31:04.100 We, Corey, you'll be there.
00:31:05.400 I'll be there.
00:31:06.640 Um, uh, we got Jayant Bandaari.
00:31:09.180 Um, we have, uh, uh, judge Brian Giesbright.
00:31:14.640 Um, we have, uh, geez, I can't even list them all.
00:31:18.380 Brett Olin from, uh, Bow Valley Credit Union.
00:31:21.600 And then, um, so that, that's the Calgary event, May 25th.
00:31:25.540 Uh, you can also check out the Vancouver event.
00:31:28.720 If anybody in Vancouver is watching, um, that you will go to JayantBandari.com and, uh, another
00:31:36.220 great lineup of speakers there that takes place June 1st.
00:31:40.160 Oh, excellent.
00:31:41.140 Well, thank you for organizing.
00:31:42.240 And, and hold on for the Calgary event.
00:31:45.620 Use, uh, promo code Darcy and get 20% off.
00:31:49.760 Ah, there we go.
00:31:50.860 Use Darcy and get 20% off.
00:31:52.440 But yeah, come on down guys.
00:31:53.840 I'd like to see you there and I'll be, uh, rambling at you live for a little bit along
00:31:57.760 with a whole bunch of other deeper thinkers than I, it should be a good time for people
00:32:01.940 into a bit of political geekery.
00:32:03.440 So, uh, yeah.
00:32:05.120 Well, thank you for organizing it, Darcy, and putting that together.
00:32:07.880 I mean, we keep at it as, as, as, you know, negative as it seems to be in looking ahead.
00:32:12.360 Still, you can't give up and, uh, hopefully, uh, find some solutions this Saturday.
00:32:16.760 Yes.
00:32:18.920 Thanks a lot for having me, Corey.
00:32:20.780 All right.
00:32:21.360 Thanks, Darcy.
00:32:22.080 And I'll talk to you soon.
00:32:23.420 So that is Darcy Giroux and the conference is yes, capitalism and morality.
00:32:27.140 Just Google that.
00:32:27.900 You'll find it quick enough.
00:32:28.660 And it's coming up this Saturday and we could talk again.
00:32:30.660 And there's a number of us talking about different forms of liberty, how it's going to benefit
00:32:34.300 you.
00:32:35.060 Cause that's what it always ends up coming down to is, is what's in it for me.
00:32:39.520 That's really what politics always are.
00:32:41.340 It's kind of, as he was saying, the parties will react when enough of the voters start
00:32:44.660 saying, Hey, I'd like you to do this.
00:32:47.140 You know, it's funny.
00:32:47.860 I just wanted to use the healthcare, uh, example when it comes to that, cause it's just become
00:32:52.340 so entrenched in the Canadians minds.
00:32:53.920 And this is the best thing in Canada.
00:32:55.380 It just doesn't seem to matter how bad the healthcare system is failing, how long the
00:33:00.480 weights are getting, how expensive it is, how many times we can put it in people's face.
00:33:03.780 Look, we're many other nations are doing much, much better than us.
00:33:07.320 We should change ours.
00:33:08.760 And people say, no, we got the best system in the world.
00:33:10.600 No, we don't.
00:33:11.220 No, we don't.
00:33:11.680 Not even close.
00:33:12.380 As a matter of fact, we got some fantastic professionals.
00:33:14.280 We've got some good facilities, but we are far from having the best system in the world.
00:33:19.000 So let's start examining different ones and we're seeing it leak out.
00:33:24.000 That's the thing.
00:33:24.500 That's the thing with socialism.
00:33:25.820 It always is.
00:33:27.020 People escape.
00:33:28.080 They get out.
00:33:28.760 Whether it's professionals getting the heck out to find a better life for themselves
00:33:32.480 or ambitious people leaving all together, or it's people getting out to get better
00:33:36.600 goods and services.
00:33:37.720 You know, when Soviet Russia was going on, they had to lock in their professionals because
00:33:41.700 people tried to escape.
00:33:42.760 You didn't see anybody, for example, getting on rafts from Miami and trying to get out to
00:33:48.860 Havana, you know, 30 years ago.
00:33:51.580 No, it was the other way.
00:33:53.000 People escape socialism.
00:33:55.180 They come into these capitalist countries.
00:33:57.500 But the people on the top of the food chain in these socialist countries, some are more
00:34:01.680 equal than others.
00:34:02.660 You know that they didn't get their treatment and goods and services where they were at.
00:34:07.360 They would leave and go elsewhere to get it.
00:34:10.340 And notice Jordan, one of our commenters saying, enterprising people ought to set up private
00:34:14.220 clinics in the U.S.
00:34:14.940 Border towns, a short drive from Canada, and cater to the Canadian healthcare refugees.
00:34:18.300 They already are, actually.
00:34:19.760 I think Great Falls, Montana has a, I think they have an MRI machine, and that's just
00:34:23.580 south of Calgary a little way, so people can speed up with that.
00:34:26.800 And there's lots of other things.
00:34:28.220 I talked about a couple of years ago, Jane and I went down, you know, we like to escape
00:34:32.480 to Arizona for a bit.
00:34:33.360 But we also went to, there's a town, Algodones, and it's just across from Yuma, just into Mexico.
00:34:40.120 And other people, the nickname for that town is Molar City.
00:34:42.800 It's just a small town just into Mexico, and it has something like 600 dentists there.
00:34:48.480 And it also has optometrists, pharmacies, all sorts of things.
00:34:51.540 It's the weirdest thing.
00:34:52.420 You cross that border, you walk in, and the whole town, well, of course, you've got the
00:34:56.620 guys, as opposed to Tijuana, where they're going to be trying to pull you into donkey
00:35:00.220 shows and other such goodness.
00:35:01.600 These are all guys trying to get you to the best dentist or the best optometrist.
00:35:05.000 But you go into the dentist's office there, you book an appointment, you get in.
00:35:08.820 And for a procedure, we were looking at, I think, about $10,000 to get done up in Canada.
00:35:13.380 We got it done for like $2,500 down there.
00:35:16.420 And it was modern.
00:35:18.000 It was safe.
00:35:19.100 It was clean.
00:35:20.920 And these are the professionals trained just as well as any up here.
00:35:24.340 The dentist and doctors down there are fantastic.
00:35:26.680 So it's happening.
00:35:28.000 It's leaking outwards.
00:35:29.580 And we can't stop it from doing so.
00:35:32.040 So let's figure out how to adapt to it.
00:35:34.720 I'm not saying we should just call the problem solved because people are escaping down there
00:35:39.040 to get the work done.
00:35:40.720 We should just try and figure out how to build the environment here so you don't feel like
00:35:45.080 you have to escape here to go down there and get your medical procedures or dental procedures
00:35:50.300 or anything done like that.
00:35:51.700 But it's a competitive world market.
00:35:53.600 And the other thing that people are forgetting when it comes to Canada's socialized system
00:35:59.140 is we need the professionals here.
00:36:01.660 We are short of doctors, we're short of nurses, nurse practitioners, we're short of respiratory
00:36:07.160 therapists, we're short of every type of medical professional.
00:36:12.340 But in our socialized environment, we don't offer enough of the incentives to keep and retain
00:36:18.560 them because we have to compete with the other areas that are offering them a better deal.
00:36:23.680 So how can we change that?
00:36:25.740 Well, there's lots of ways.
00:36:26.660 And I know I'm going to use the P word, privatizing.
00:36:30.080 I'm not talking about privatizing the whole system.
00:36:31.800 I don't care about the American system.
00:36:33.140 I know somebody's going to comment really soon.
00:36:34.340 Oh, you want to Americanize it?
00:36:35.760 No, I don't.
00:36:36.420 Their system stinks too.
00:36:38.160 But guess what?
00:36:39.380 There are dozens and dozens and dozens of systems around the world.
00:36:43.360 And most of them in developed countries are universal.
00:36:46.200 Universal meaning you will not get turned away for lack of funds.
00:36:49.820 You're covered.
00:36:50.460 You're paid for.
00:36:51.320 But almost every other system in the world and every system that's doing better than
00:36:58.360 Canada, and there's many of those, have a larger element of private provision with
00:37:04.780 them, within them.
00:37:06.380 You know, you can have a hospital.
00:37:08.240 It's illegal to build up a private hospital in Alberta, in Canada.
00:37:11.640 It is.
00:37:12.160 You know, I can't say if I won a bunch of lotteries.
00:37:14.320 I want to spend all my millions and build Corey's Hospital down the road, hire my own
00:37:18.640 doctors, and do my own thing.
00:37:20.740 Even if I wanted to work within the public system, I could not do that.
00:37:23.980 It's kind of ridiculous.
00:37:24.940 You know, speaking of liberty-wise, I mean, shouldn't I be able to build whatever the
00:37:27.320 hell I want, hire whoever I want, let people choose whatever they want?
00:37:30.840 I understand a degree of regulation.
00:37:32.640 You don't want me to just stick a, you know, doctor in front of my name and I can start
00:37:35.700 doing open heart surgery.
00:37:36.740 It's probably going to fare poorly for everybody.
00:37:38.660 But why can't a private person open a hospital and work within the public system?
00:37:44.320 This monopoly mess.
00:37:46.060 Part of its unions, people are terrified of taking them on.
00:37:49.460 Our system is so rigid.
00:37:51.560 Like, imagine this.
00:37:52.380 And I'm just throwing it out there.
00:37:53.320 There's all sorts of models.
00:37:53.960 I think France is sort of this way.
00:37:55.700 You can, all through Europe, there's private hospitals and they're mixed private public all
00:37:59.040 over the place.
00:37:59.600 But imagine a hospital that was built by a private investor, but it's regulated.
00:38:06.340 They say 70% of what you do and there has to be within the public system and you'll be
00:38:10.260 paid for the procedures and the patients based on this schedule.
00:38:13.020 This is what you will make and this is what you will do.
00:38:15.740 The other 30% though, all yours.
00:38:18.640 Use your doctors, use your rooms, use your surgical feeders, do whatever you want and
00:38:23.280 charge whatever you think you can get away with.
00:38:26.180 Suddenly you're getting people coming from other countries, spending money to keep your
00:38:29.680 doctors here and keep your hospital facilities open.
00:38:32.540 Yes, that's kind of how it works.
00:38:35.060 Impossible in Canada right now.
00:38:36.640 And then people with the politics of envy, some rich guy is going to jump the line on me.
00:38:39.440 Hey, I got news for you.
00:38:40.400 But the rich guy already is.
00:38:42.720 The rich guy already is.
00:38:44.120 Politics of envy.
00:38:45.120 The worst, most self-destructive politics in the world.
00:38:48.640 We're going to pull everybody down to the same level of lower misery because you can't
00:38:52.480 stand the thought that somebody else is getting a better service or something than you.
00:38:56.760 Get over it.
00:38:57.960 Get over it.
00:38:58.660 There's always going to be somebody richer than you.
00:39:00.340 Unless you're Elon Musk, there's still going to be somebody who's going to have a bigger
00:39:03.560 house, drive a nicer car, sleep with better partners.
00:39:07.240 Who knows what they're going to do?
00:39:08.620 Get over it.
00:39:09.420 Worry about yourself.
00:39:10.720 Don't worry about the other guy.
00:39:12.020 If the other guy is jumping the line and spending the money so that you can get through the line
00:39:16.160 faster and you can get to that specialist that wouldn't even have been there in the
00:39:19.640 first place, you're winning.
00:39:21.340 You're winning.
00:39:22.140 They're subsidizing you.
00:39:24.520 So don't look at it as somebody taking advantage of you.
00:39:27.000 They're subsidizing you.
00:39:28.500 So they got in a little faster.
00:39:30.580 So did you.
00:39:32.500 That's what people have to realize.
00:39:34.200 So we've, but we've really got to chip away at this mountain in Canada when it comes to
00:39:38.100 healthcare mountain of envy and misconception that we have a good system.
00:39:44.000 It's not, it's not at all.
00:39:46.640 And it's failing us.
00:39:47.880 And I mean, I've seen those debates online.
00:39:49.580 People, oh, those conservative premiers are screwing healthcare everywhere.
00:39:52.280 Really?
00:39:53.520 BC has been under the NDP for quite a while.
00:39:56.260 Socialists.
00:39:56.740 And guess what?
00:39:57.300 BC has got some of the worst waiting lists in the country.
00:39:59.740 In fact, BC sent cancer patients to Washington to get treatment.
00:40:07.540 Yes, the socialist bastion of British Columbia couldn't keep up with their own cancer patients.
00:40:14.180 So they sent them to private hospitals in the big, bad United States to get it done.
00:40:20.740 And, you know, and it brings me into something else.
00:40:22.200 It's one of the dumbest things that shows just how stupid Canada's system is.
00:40:27.580 And it is stupid because we can't pay people for blood donations.
00:40:31.060 We can't pay people for plasma donations.
00:40:33.160 That's been a big thing for a long time.
00:40:34.820 Oh, that would be unprincipled to pay somebody for that.
00:40:36.780 They have to donate.
00:40:37.420 Well, that's good.
00:40:37.840 And now we're short of it.
00:40:39.160 So what do they do?
00:40:40.140 Because we're short of it.
00:40:40.920 We can't have people just dying for lack of blood and plasma when surgery is getting done.
00:40:44.840 Well, we buy it.
00:40:46.060 Where do we buy it from?
00:40:47.140 The United States.
00:40:48.700 Yeah.
00:40:48.920 And why has the United States got so much plasma, so much, that they can afford to actually sell some to us as well as filling their own needs?
00:40:59.320 Well, it's because they pay people to give the plasma in the first place.
00:41:03.780 So do we in Canada.
00:41:05.360 It's just that we don't allow ourselves to pay Canadians to donate the plasma.
00:41:09.980 Is that stupid or what?
00:41:11.400 Just get over the envy.
00:41:14.020 Set up a system here.
00:41:15.400 Pay a guy 50 bucks to go down and spend the time to give a pint.
00:41:19.480 And lo and behold, we will have it because we're paying anyway.
00:41:23.380 But this is how absurd our system is.
00:41:27.240 How rigid everybody loses.
00:41:29.420 Well, except for the plasma vendors in the States, I guess.
00:41:32.580 So get over it, guys.
00:41:33.820 Think harder.
00:41:36.040 And yes, as Jordan said as well, you know, the commenter,
00:41:40.300 if people are going to go to private options, we might as well privatize it up here and keep the money here.
00:41:44.980 Yes.
00:41:46.260 Yes.
00:41:46.700 We already have a two-tier system.
00:41:48.640 Do you think an NHL player really has to wait for care?
00:41:52.540 Guys, that ship has sailed.
00:41:55.180 Either way, you know, it gets back to, again, liberty.
00:41:57.460 See, that's where I talk about classical liberalism, too, though.
00:41:59.820 I'm not one of the hardcore libertarians where I think it should be just wide open.
00:42:03.500 I do believe in that we have a role for a universal system.
00:42:06.460 We have a role.
00:42:08.200 You know, I just want limited government.
00:42:09.920 I understand we won't have no government.
00:42:12.860 But we can do much, much better while still universally covering people.
00:42:17.680 Be much more responsive and do a better job with it.
00:42:22.000 You know, somebody else who's been a classical liberal, I would say,
00:42:27.000 and libertarian for a long time is Premier Danielle Smith in Alberta.
00:42:31.500 And something interesting, you know, with her,
00:42:34.260 how things change sometimes when they get in office.
00:42:36.360 She seems to have one blind spot when it comes to Premier Smith.
00:42:39.460 And that's with trains.
00:42:41.060 She's just got that thing with trains.
00:42:42.840 And I know I've ranted and raved about this before,
00:42:44.520 but I'm going to rant a little more about it right now as well.
00:42:46.520 And that is, she came back from a meeting in Alaska and was speaking about a train line going from Fort McMurray,
00:42:58.080 so that's northeast Alberta for people outside of there, going up to Alaska.
00:43:01.500 Now, there's interesting things.
00:43:03.040 I think Alberta should be partnering a lot more with Alaska.
00:43:05.060 We've got more in common with Alaska than we do with the rest of the country.
00:43:07.440 And we're talking about sending goods, you know, between Alberta and Alaska,
00:43:12.440 predominantly in the oil and gas sector energy, and a train line might work for that.
00:43:17.300 Okay, I'm okay with that to this point.
00:43:19.680 But this was talked about in 2020.
00:43:22.440 And Donald Trump said, yeah, go for it.
00:43:24.100 You know, I think it's a good idea.
00:43:25.080 I'll approve it.
00:43:26.460 And Premier, well, I don't know who, we had Kenny at that time.
00:43:30.480 They were receptive.
00:43:31.580 But then the company that was promoting it, it basically ended up falling behind,
00:43:37.740 went into Chapter 11 bankruptcy and racked up $212 million in debt.
00:43:41.800 So that's what keeps happening with these train projects, these rail projects.
00:43:48.800 They almost inevitably turn into boondoggles.
00:43:51.300 This thing didn't even get to the planning point before the company that was pushing it went broke.
00:43:57.360 The role the government has is, do you think you've got a business case?
00:44:00.900 Great.
00:44:01.500 Maybe we'll help facilitate the construction of that.
00:44:04.900 We'll help, you know, maybe with some of the land acquisition.
00:44:07.260 We'll definitely move back a bit on the permits so you can get through easier.
00:44:10.900 We'll help with the negotiations with people along the way, of the right-of-way with this.
00:44:15.180 But we're not going to put tax dollars into your business.
00:44:17.880 What?
00:44:18.080 You can't do it without the tax dollars?
00:44:19.420 Well, then go to hell.
00:44:20.020 We don't have time for you.
00:44:21.140 We're not here to bail out an unviable business.
00:44:23.900 If you can't do it without my tax dollars, then don't do it.
00:44:27.680 It's as simple as that.
00:44:29.200 Now, a lot of these things is where government has to get out of the bloody way.
00:44:32.900 Some people talk about, well, the Trans Mountain Line, we needed the liberals to build that.
00:44:35.500 No, we didn't.
00:44:36.080 We never needed the federal government to build that.
00:44:38.560 All we needed was the federal government to get out of the bloody way.
00:44:41.880 We had a private company that wanted to build that, and they really desperately wanted to build it.
00:44:47.440 They were going to spend billions of dollars to build it.
00:44:49.300 But Prime Minister Trudeau and his buddies in B.C. kept getting in the way, kept blocking it, kept hindering it, kept holding it up.
00:44:57.360 So finally they said, fine, we're out.
00:44:59.140 We're out.
00:44:59.860 Kinder Morgan said, we're out.
00:45:00.860 And Trudeau realized, even Trudeau realized, wow, we've pushed it too far.
00:45:05.840 This thing has to get built.
00:45:07.120 And then the government stepped in to do it.
00:45:08.500 And look what we've got.
00:45:09.600 You know what?
00:45:09.960 Eight years late and $30 billion over budget.
00:45:13.260 But it's finally running.
00:45:15.320 Either way, these train lines will be the same.
00:45:17.680 We've got to stop it as well.
00:45:20.780 And I'll finish up.
00:45:21.540 This is an industry one from the housing minister, Sean Fraser.
00:45:24.240 He's whining.
00:45:25.500 He's whining.
00:45:26.320 He's saying critics must not interfere in his plan to build 3.9 million homes.
00:45:31.100 Yes, he's saying the critics are hurting things.
00:45:34.040 I'm trying to solve the crisis, and you guys are harming it.
00:45:37.480 This is the liberal government.
00:45:38.780 They couldn't even get their own tree planting program to come within 10% of its goal.
00:45:42.740 Do we really think they're going to build 3.9 million homes?
00:45:46.680 They're incompetent.
00:45:47.720 This is where we're talking about getting government in to do something.
00:45:50.160 They're only going to make it worse.
00:45:52.120 They're only going to do it worse.
00:45:53.080 We showed how well they can hunt deer on an island.
00:45:55.880 They couldn't shoot those goldfish in a bowl.
00:45:57.820 Do we really think they're going to build 3.9 million homes?
00:46:01.540 And you're going to blame the critics who are perhaps questioning that goal that you set that is so absurdly high?
00:46:07.420 We have a housing crisis.
00:46:09.440 We definitely do.
00:46:10.820 And the solution to it is like the solution to so many of the other problems.
00:46:13.720 Get out of the way.
00:46:15.200 Get out of the way.
00:46:16.200 The amount of permits and regulations and licenses and bureaucracy and BS to get from the point of starting to build a house to have somebody move into it is absurd on every level of government in Canada.
00:46:28.700 So, no, I don't want you morons to promise me 3.9 million houses.
00:46:32.560 I just want you to get out of the way.
00:46:34.400 The rest of us will take care of it.
00:46:35.740 We can do it.
00:46:36.340 We're smart.
00:46:36.800 We're able.
00:46:37.360 Just get out of the damn way.
00:46:39.060 I guess back to that liberty idea, right?
00:46:40.960 That's where I kind of land on things.
00:46:42.320 But I know, as Darcy kind of said, maybe it's a dream.
00:46:44.700 But I'll keep pushing that dream anyways.
00:46:47.220 Okay.
00:46:47.700 I've run out the time for today, guys.
00:46:49.820 Thank you very much for tuning in on this wet week.
00:46:54.540 Maybe it looks like it's still going to be wet next week, too.
00:46:56.800 But, oh, well.
00:46:57.200 We can use it.
00:46:57.900 We can use it.
00:46:58.800 Looks like the drought might be ending.
00:47:00.500 So, be sure to check in again.
00:47:03.000 You know, the pipeline is going to be on a little later tonight.
00:47:05.340 We'll discuss a few more of those issues and get on to the westernstandard.news, guys.
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00:47:13.420 So, thank you all for tuning in and listening to me vent my spleen at you today.
00:47:18.400 Tune in next week at this time.
00:47:19.580 We'll do it all again with a whole new fresh set of issues for me to go on about.
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