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In this week's show, Corey rants about the growing problem of homeless people getting onto our transit system, and the lack of resources available to deal with them. Plus, we have a new guest on the show, Dr. Tom Flanagan.
Transcript
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It is, what is it again? It's February 22nd, 2023. Where all the years go. Welcome to the
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Corey Morgan Show. As per the name of the show, I am Corey Morgan. This is the Western Standards
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Live weekly thing where I speak to guests, I rant, I rave, I cover news items, and we interact.
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I just want to remind everybody, use that comment scroll, maybe not necessarily to plug other links
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to watch, but to, you know, chat with each other, send questions my way, send questions at each
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other. Just keep it civil, of course, all the time. I mean, you know, it can be a little bit
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tasteless. Lord knows I am quite often, but we don't have to be at each other's throats. We can
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have a good productive time here for this show. I got a good guest coming up in a while here. It's
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Professor Tom Flanagan. Some people are probably familiar with him in conservative circles. You
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know, he was a strong advisor for Prime Minister Stephen Harper. He'd written a number of books,
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one of which was called First Nations Second Thoughts.
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He's very much studied on First Nation issues and things like that.
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And, of course, it just seems now it's almost weekly.
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I mean, when we booked Professor Flanagan to talk about this,
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there had been a recent discovery, I guess you could say,
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And even since then, yet another one has popped up.
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So, you know, we want to discuss that a little.
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So I'm looking forward to that conversation. And of course, lots of other, uh, uh, rants and news
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items. So good to see y'all checking in there. David, Lisa are all the way out from Nova Scotia,
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Patricia up there in Chauvin, Shelly and Edmonton and, uh, Lorna and Tracy, all you guys checking
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in. I like seeing that. I like knowing there's actually people on the other end watching. It's
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not just me talking to myself as I do when I drive and such. So if you're from out of the
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province, you might not know, but it is cold as balls in Alberta right now. That was terrible.
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and I'm cheap. I walk a long ways in here to avoid paying too much for parking, but man,
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it's chilly. Times like this, I do feel, you know, we talk about that a lot. Arthur Green,
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you know, our reporter up in Edmonton and Jonathan Bradley here in Calgary, and they've been covering
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a lot with how things have been getting bad and out of control for our homeless population,
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our addicts, because they're overwhelming and getting onto our transit systems and
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and it's causing a lot of problems and things. And times like now, we're going to see it. We're
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going to see it because a lot of the addicts end up retreating onto the trains and into the stations
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to get warm. And we're going to see security somewhere kicking them out and everybody's going
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to scream and howl and go bananas about it. Happens every cold snap. And it'll happen again
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this time. What has to be kept in mind, and I don't know, I can't speak for Edmonton, but I'm
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sure it's similar. In Calgary, we have shuttles. We actually have shuttles that will pick them up
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and take them to a heated center. There's not a matter of people say, oh, they have no choice.
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You know, they got to stay warm. Well, they do have to stay warm. And I do feel for them. I can't
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imagine how horrible it is for those addicts out there right now in this weather. But they don't
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belong in the damn train. They don't. It's not where they are. You know, people trying to ride
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to work, people trying to commute and having to deal with that. And they aren't just being thrown
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out into the cold. So if you see those videos, don't, they don't do that. I mean, they throw
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them off the train, yes, well, remove them, throw on them. And there are centers. Part of the problem
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with homeless centers, the reason they don't want to go is they can't shoot up in them. They can't
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smoke their meth in them. They can't be wasted in them. That's the problem. That's the issue they
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have. And that's where a lot of the misplaced sympathy starts coming around too. We keep
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talking about the unhoused and the vulnerable and they certainly are, but let's call it what it is.
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the vast majority of them with the problem are addicts. They're not somebody who fell through
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the cracks. They're not there because I love seeing constant articles, rising rents or what
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are causing homelessness. Well, they contribute, but come on, are you really telling me that that
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person walking up and down on the curb, holding the sign covered with, you know, pockmarks from
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the meth he's been smoking? How low would rent have to get before that gentleman is ready to
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move into a house come on the problem is the addiction the addiction and that's what we got
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to focus on good news on that front too i guess it's it's campaign style but it's continuing the
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theme in alberta uh premier smith and the health minister have been announcing massive increases
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in the funding for more treatment more mental health supports things like that they're addressing
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the problem rent is a problem but it's not the problem uh making these folks homeless okay i
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digress from my other rant unfortunately our news editor dave naylor won't be making it in for his
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check-in today. He's loafing around his house, sipping on some sort of licensed product, I'm
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sure, or another. So he's gotten out of it today. So it's just all me and later on a little bit of
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Professor Flanagan. So I'm going to talk about, though, what's got me ranting today. And that's
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about tipping. And tipping's been a part of North American culture for generations. And now and then
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we hear of some movement or another calling for an end to the practice. But it never really would
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go anywhere. Something's changed in the last few years, though. I mean, tipping has expanded into
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non-traditional industries, and the amounts being asked are growing. And consumers, they're starting
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to feel picked clean, and they're right. I mean, prices for everything are rising, and we can't
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afford to top up every purchase price for a product with a 15 to 25% tip. It's one thing to leave a
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tip for a server after spending an hour or two at a restaurant, quite another to expect a tip for a
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retail purchase. Now I'm going to offer a recent and somewhat embarrassing personal example. This
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Just last week I went to a specialty bakery in Calgary to buy some keto diet items.
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I won't bother saying which bakery, there's a few of them around there.
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This bakery though had signs plastered on their outside door and all over their walls
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bragging about how they're a living wage employer.
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Again, whatever, I shrugged and entered, I mean it's their business, what they want
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I quickly of course got to see what comes with the living wage when I picked up a loaf
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of bread and took it to the counter and was charged an eye-popping $16.
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I knew keto was going to be expensive, but holy crap. I guess it's because they're paying every
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retail clerk $20 an hour or 22 or whatever they're determining a living wage is these days. Either
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way, I gulped, but decided to purchase the bread and get the hell out of there anyways. That's the
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first embarrassment. I should have just stopped my purchase when I saw the price. When I was handed
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the payment pad though, then the all too common prompts for tips were on the screen with the
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lowest of them being 15%. I mean, what the hell did the bored kid sitting behind the counter do
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to earn a tip. Thought I'll show him. I chose the manual option and only left a $1 tip. Yeah,
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that's the second embarrassment. If it bothered me, why did I tip at all? We were so conditioned
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to tip. I felt almost shamed into leaving at least a little something. And it's a ridiculous notion,
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and I should know better. I hope I learned something there. Now, businesses that didn't
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traditionally command tips in the past have been using the option of those payment pads to try and
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supplement their staff wages with it. It helps them reduce a little of the sticker shock, I guess,
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with customers as the inflation forces them to raise prices too, but it's a disingenuous way to
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go about it. And those payment machines make it easy to slip the tips in as an option without
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actually asking for them. I even heard of somebody being prompted for a tip for an item they ordered
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online. I mean, you're just talking to a computer service at that point. It's getting ridiculous.
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Tipping needs to be reined in, but I don't want to see it eliminated, as some people have called for.
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It's just crept into the wrong businesses, and consumers need to stop indulging them. And yes,
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I'm guilty of that. I did it. In some service-based industries, though, tipping should
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remain. I mean, I look at tipping as something that should be considered if the person has had
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extended direct experience with the service provider. And in that, I mean with a few examples,
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like in a restaurant with a bar server or a bartender who communicates, converses, and serves
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a table for periods that could last hours. Or a bartender who listens to a person laying out the
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challenges of their lives and lends a sympathetic ear. I did that. I was a bartender. But you know,
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an industry secret. The bartender usually doesn't really care. And the stripper doesn't really have
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a crush on you. But all the same, throw your tips out there, guys. They're doing something above and
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beyond just serving you a drink or offering a lap dance or whatever else. A tour guy, you know,
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spends an afternoon showing sights and narrating behind him. A cab driver, conversation online,
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you know, on a ride, lends tips for local attractions. You see the theme though, right?
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A tip is for interaction and only when the interaction goes above and beyond the basic
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service. A tipping is the ultimate form of merit pay. I mean, the consumer's in full control. You
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can directly influence the compensation of the person who is offering the service and incentivizes
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the worker to do as good a job as possible. When I owned a pub, it was easy to see which servers
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and bartenders gave the best services. Some consistently brought in as much as 20 to 30%
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more in tips than other workers. And the formula's pretty simple. Just be friendly, attentive, and
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polite. Harder than one would think with some servers, though, especially as an owner, you find
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out. But it gave me as an owner a visible measure who gave the customers the best service.
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And it ensured, I of course worked harder to make sure those servers got as many prime shifts as
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possible. The customers won, the ambitious servers won, and I as an owner won. Well, many restaurants
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they've tried to go with tip-free models and it always fails. Earl's in Calgary tried it a few
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years ago and it only lasted a few months. I mean, while they paid a much bigger hourly rate to the
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servers to compensate for the lack of tips, the ambitious servers said to hell with this and they
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quit and went to restaurants where they could earn tips. They wanted to get the better, work
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harder and make the money. The servers who remain, of course, were those who preferred to just sit
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about and take an hourly wage. So service levels went down while the prices shot up. The restaurant
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had to return to the old way and fast because the consumers, of course, fled. People like to point
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out tipping isn't the standard in some other countries, and that's true. But in my travel
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experience, I found that the service drops as well. And I was in Australia a while back, for
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example. And unless you're in a formal and expensive restaurant, well, you have to go to
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a window, order and pay and then get a little number. And then you sit at their table. Then
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they call your number and you go and get your food. Meanwhile, you go to another lineup and
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you go and you pay and you get your drink. And if you drink multiple drinks, you got to go multiple
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times and the prices are high. You know what? I'd rather tip and have table service. That's why I
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went out. I really missed that while I was down there. If I can do nothing but self-service,
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I might as well just get takeout and go home. The only way to change the trend in tipping for
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consumers, though, is you've got to put your feet in your wallets down on the issue. Refuse to tip
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for retail services and only tip in the traditional industries. We can't get the government in on
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banning tipping, and it's well out of their role anyway. Who are they to tell me who I can give my
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own money to? We have let the practice of tipping spread too far, but it's up to us to bring it back
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where it belongs. And I'm going to check myself before habitually tipping from here on in. And
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yes, I sure as hell won't be spending $16 on a loaf of sourdough bread as well. So last week was
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a good learning week for me, guys. And those are my thoughts on the tipping. We're seeing more of
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and yeah, you know, we can correct it. It is up to us. You know, so many, this is the difference
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between us as conservatives and others as liberals. Okay. The, the, the, the tipping's got out of
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control. The asks, they're annoying, but I don't want the government to step in and fix it for me.
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We have to do it ourselves and we can, we can, we just got to say, what, dude, I'm just paying for
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a loaf of bread. I'm not giving you a tip. Uh, likewise, you know, for whatever else you're
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doing. So, uh, yeah, I'm just going to see through the comments here. Uh, Darren saying,
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pay cash and cash only. That was one more thing in that place. They wouldn't take cash. It was a
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big sign up saying, oh, for the health of our workers. It was a really weird, woke little spot,
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this bakery I waited to. And I won't again. Hey, power to them if they get their little market.
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They can do what they want. But Darren's saying, why are you tipping for self-serve? Yeah, I know.
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That's what I said. I'm admitting error here, okay? It was embarrassing. I shouldn't have.
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uh, Saxon-Riverston saying some restaurants want 18%. Yeah. I mean, that's part of it too.
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Um, is I mean, the prompts, they start at 15. Like I remember way back when I started going
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to restaurants when I was young and GST back then was 7%. The easy formula, a lot of people
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said for tipping typically was double the GST, gave 14 to 15% a tip on something. So if you
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mentally do math that hard, you see the GST of the bill. Now, I mean, 15 is the minimum.
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Uh, Tracy taught and say service gone downhill as tipping keeps going up. Well, I don't know.
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That depends. That's place by place, I think, you know, but in some areas, yeah, it still goes downhill, even as it goes up.
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Laurie Ann's saying Milton Truckstop has them. Yeah, you know, like, seriously, unless there's an interaction.
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And like I said, that's a little different. If somebody's giving you a pedicure for half an hour, I've never had one.
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But I mean, I imagine it's an involved thing in some social interaction. That's where it comes in, you know, or even, you know, bellhops.
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I mean, there's a little bit of a different thing in the old fancy hotels.
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If you went in, you better make sure that that bellhop gets a good tip, but then you'll
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also ensure you're going to get fast service for things from there on in too.
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I mean, just as another thing to point out as somebody who was in the industry for quite
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a while as a restaurant owner, I was only five years, but felt a lot longer.
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And it's not like we'll go out of our way not to serve the ones who are bad tippers,
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but you're going to be more attentive with the ones you know were good ones.
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especially on a busy night when you're really scrambling and you're walking and you know that
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that person snapping their fingers over there who never tips you, wants their fifth supplemental
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order of ranch whilst the person over there needs another beer. I'm going to not see the one who
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needed the ranch and I will hustle to the one who tips and wants the beer. Just makes your experience
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a little better. And yeah, tipping based on the cost of food doesn't seem like a level playing
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filled for servers working at lower or moderately priced restaurants? Well, again, it's up to you.
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It's up to you. You know, you can go lower. The difference on the high-end restaurants,
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for example, you know, if we want to talk about is typically anyways, typically, and no, not every
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restaurant's going to do it wisely that way, but you're going to have a lot fewer tables per server
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because you want to give better service. You're not going to give a server 10 tables in a high-end
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restaurant because people are going to get pretty upset when you're going to end up with a four
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person table and their bills going to be into, you know, the hundreds of dollars, they don't want to
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be looking at empty drink glasses and plates finished and sitting in front of them for too
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long. And that restaurant is going to go down fast because when people when you pay for the extra
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and the better place, you typically again, if they know that's the business model are going to get a
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better service. Plus the larger, so that person, that server is not, is counting on a larger tip
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because they aren't getting as many tables to turn over. Also, most restaurants, not all,
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will have a tip out system. So part of that does go to the back. We did that at our place. Every
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server, when they finished their night, had to give a portion of their tips and it would go
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towards everybody from the dishwasher to the cook and so on. Sometimes it goes to management. It
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didn't in our place. Either way, I'm just saying, you know, we can knee jerk and some people saying,
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you know, we got to end tipping altogether. And no, I don't think so. We just got to get it kind
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back to where it belonged. And yeah, they're asking too much in a lot of cases. 30%? Come on.
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I mean, I need a neck massage with my meal for that. It's just not going to happen. All right,
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let's get off that and get on to a little bit of other stuff. I see we got a cancel crowd planning
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to protest Jordan Peterson. He's been on tour. We'll see if they actually come out. You know,
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they like to top big and deliver low. We saw that in Ottawa when all of these groups were saying,
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oh, we're going to come out and protest Peterson. And guess what? Not a single one of them did.
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it's going to be in Calgary at the Jubilee Auditorium
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because that's what I like to push back on it too
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they have the right to protest and whine and complain
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straysand effect for people who aren't familiar with
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and protesters or opposition actually bring more attention
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Let's make sure that thing sells out because Peterson, he has some great stuff to say.
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Every year, the thing comes out about baby names, you know, whose babies were named this
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I mean, at my age and due to a number of physiological things, I don't have to worry
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But it is kind of interesting in a trivial way to see what names are topping the list.
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I guess Noah has been for a long time and Olivia.
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But something else that's, oh, just a side note.
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Linda Gibson says that Peterson's thing is sold out.
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So, you know, even if you can't get tickets for that,
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you can always go there just to thumb your nose at the counter protest
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if you've got nothing better to do on a Sunday.
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All right, either way, another side note that apparently not a single child,
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though, in Alberta, thousands and thousands were born,
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I mean, you know, there's nothing wrong with that name.
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In fact, the mother of my first son was named Karen.
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And unfortunately, internet memes and, you know, new ways of speaking about things have actually managed to completely ruin a name.
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I think it's going to take a generation before we start seeing people named Karen again.
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I mean, it all started with those little memes.
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It was usually a pet and a person, you know, and the pet saying, hey, okay, Karen, you know, do this and stuff like that.
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It was funny stuff. But either way, the backlash has actually gotten to the point
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where nobody is naming their children Karen any longer. The name Karen has been killed by the
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internet. And it's going to be very rare to see anybody 20 years from now, you know, who's young
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named Karen. I wonder what names are going to be ruined next, you know, just like you don't see
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anybody named Adolf anymore. But I mean, Karen's didn't do anything nearly as terribly bad as a
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historical Adolf did. But, you know, the internet can take things and change them in our perceptions.
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I just find it as a pop trivia sort of noteworthy thing with that odd, I guess, side effect of the
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Karen thing. Let's see, I'm going to just nag folks too. We should be getting to guest time
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all right let's see you know another new story we're going to talk a little bit about this in
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the pipeline which is another one of our shows we're going to do a little later but this was
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an incident you know we'll see what happens as details emerge with it and things uh halton
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region police charged a milton ontario resident to alley me in with second degree murder after
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he allegedly killed a robber who uh broke into his home now uh this is getting um
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if you defend your home with a firearm. That's the way it goes. It doesn't matter what the
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circumstances. We don't know the circumstances with this one. There could be some more to it
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and things like that. But you were guilty until proven innocent when it comes to defending your
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home with a firearm. And that's a real problem. I mean, we saw that with Eddie Maurice. We saw it
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with Roland Stanley. There was another Ontario case a while back. And all three of those guys
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eventually had charges dropped or were acquitted by juries. Because when it's put to people with
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common sense, they say, no, you had the right to do that. But in the meantime, you were charged
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and you have to run the gauntlet and deal with that and defend yourself, sometimes at great
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expense and under a great deal of stress. And well, here's yet another case. So it's gonna be
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interesting to see where it goes as the evidence comes out. But I mean, how many times have we got
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to put it to juries? Because you don't want to put it to a judge because they're often liberal
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appointed and they'll just convict you. But juries, when it's your peers, and that's the point
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of it, can look at those and say, you know what, I would have done the same thing. That's why it's
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your peers. And it's, you know, that's why they say, well, no, I would have done the same thing.
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You can go free. As Darren Bailey says, if you defend yourself in Canada, you're the criminal.
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You're supposed to simply die. Almost, you know, I mean, I remember the term I was using over the
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whole Eddie Maurice thing when that was going on. He was a young man who defended his family. He
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he just wounded the fellow and went through months and months of court and he was arrested
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and a bunch of things. And the way the police were telling you is you're supposed to dial,
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cower, and pray. If somebody's coming into your rural property, even though the police
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acknowledge it in my area, because that's right, Maurice, we're in the same county down there,
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40-minute response times for police on average. So if you've got a violent criminal coming up to
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your doorstep, call 911, lock the door, hope they don't break in, and then curl up in a ball and
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pray that the police will get there on time. Or you can defend yourself and deal with the courts
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later. Like the old saying, I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by six. Now, the other part I
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don't agree with Darren on those is restaurants that required proof of vaccination, you have to
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boycott them. Well, you know what? That was almost all of them. They had no choice. They had no
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choice. Take it out on the government. Take it out on the legislation. Absolutely. Oh, I'm just
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seeing, I've just got to send a link to Professor Flanagan here. So bear with me as I move this
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around. He says he didn't get it. So I must have miss sent it. So pardon me, guys. I'm just babbling
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here, but we don't want to miss out on our guest. At least I know why he's not here. And hopefully
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he'll be here really soon. I'll get it again. Come on, paste. Nothing was slower than when you
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got something like this going on, right? No, that didn't work. There we go. No, now we're pasted
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00:22:32.700
taken long, long ago. These guys are on the front lines, helping to draft smart and intelligent
00:22:39.180
firearms regulations and legislation in Canada. And more importantly, educating the public about
00:22:45.220
how we keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people to become a member. It's absolutely worth
00:22:50.100
every penny. Okay, one of those emergency commercial breaks. And hey, the CSSA, it was
00:22:57.200
a good segue. Anyways, we were talking about self-defense and rights like that. And that is
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a group that stands up for your rights to own a firearm, whether, you know, not just for self-defense,
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but for sporting use, whether it's target shooting, duck hunting, whatever you might want it to be.
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Getting back to the restaurants, like I was talking about, yes, Gene, it wasn't me who thought of that.
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Actually, it was Nico who was quicker on the ball going to commercial.
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But restaurants, okay, on average, your restaurant's running on a 5% margin.
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If you lose your liquor license, you're out of business.
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If the health inspector pulls your license, you're out of business.
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Most restaurant owners don't have a big amount of money to be able to keep getting by.
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And a lot of them, like I look at Benny's in Calgary.
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I went there, by the way, and I'll give them nothing but plugs.
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They stood up, they tried, they pushed back against the vaccine passports.
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Because he did end up putting the vax passport thing in.
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Because his only other choice was to go bankrupt.
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Get angry at the state and the government who put the gun to the head of these restaurants.
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And by all means, that's what I always recommend
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But I just, you know, don't agree with you on that one.
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Okay, we've got Professor Flanagan there on deck.
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because I've been looking forward to this discussion.
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So let's get them on in here and we will discuss, well, a nice, simple issue of residential school sites and possible burials on them.
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Sorry about the link confusion there, Mr. Flanagan.
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Something I said very earlier in the show, I kind of framed it before we brought you in,
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When we first booked you, which was a while back, it was based on which reserve that was,
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one of the ones, Star Blanket, announcing that they'd found a bunch of anomalies with their GPR.
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And even since then, yet another one up in the Port Alberni, B.C. area now is reporting the same thing.
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Like, this issue is just going on and on and on, but there doesn't seem to be any resolution going on.
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It looked like I was having a liquid lunch or something, but I'm not.
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they just let's try it again with i move my camera on my set yeah well you're well centered now yeah
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um yeah well this has happened now in seven or eight different uh um first nations around the
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country and will will happen at more because the uh federal government has appropriated a large
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amount of money for this kind of searching and so um bands are taking taking advantage of it
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to hire somebody to push ground penetrating radar around it's more than that they also
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will hire some of their own people to go do sort of oral history projects talking to
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to members about their memories or perhaps what they have heard about residential schools so it
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becomes a fairly major effort engaging a lot of people so anyway you're going to hear more stories
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like that for sure. Yeah, well, and oral history, I mean, that's kind of a whole loaded realm on
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its own. I mean, I understand wanting to give some weight to oral history. You have a culture
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that's been around that didn't have a written language, so you had to rely on things being
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passed down. But all the same, we have to recognize and understand that oral history is also
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notoriously inaccurate at times. And to base something as serious as this on just the oral
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history, I mean, we need much deeper investigation into some of the things that have been alleged.
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Yeah, I think we can use our court system as an example. Oral testimony is
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admitted all the time in the form of eyewitness testimony. And even some forms of hearsay
00:27:15.060
evidence are admitted if it's expert testimony, for example, scientist or whatever. But
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um oral history in the court proceeding is always subject to testing first of all there's a
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possibility of cross-examination uh by counsel for the other side and then there is introduction of
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other kinds of evidence to compare against oral evidence other kinds of evidence would be for
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example written documents uh in the case of of ancient events you might have archaeological
00:27:46.980
evidence uh even linguistic evidence about language change can give you ideas about movement
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of people so there are many kinds of evidence and what what our courts do is admit oral evidence but
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triangulated against others and i think that's what we should be doing here if there may be
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something to these oral accounts that are being gathered but until they're subject to corroboration
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and maybe even against other oral accounts uh this is another part of it you know you have
00:28:15.860
in a court proceeding you have a witness for one side you have a witness for another side maybe
00:28:19.380
they saw different things or you know don't remember it differently so you've got to do
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all this triangulation and that's what's not being done at the present time no and as you'd said i
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mean that explains a lot of it i mean when people have a means to make money they've kind of created
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a cottage industry it was a large amount put out just for gpr surveys and things such as that and
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i guess people can't necessarily even be faulted for taking advantage of the program but you know
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know, getting to the truth of things, I kind of want to come around back and a bit with the oral
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history and the Kamloops residential school, which set the whole thing off sort of to begin with,
00:28:51.460
because a lot of that was based on stories of, I mean, it was terrible stories of children
00:28:57.360
basically being murdered, snuck out in the night, buried in an apple orchard. But aside from the
00:29:03.020
oral history of that, there's no other record or anything could be found to corroborate that. Now
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Now, the GPR has been done, and they found a bunch of anomalies, but nothing else has been done since.
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Some of the leaders at Kamloops promised that there would be, but it hasn't happened, and more than a year has gone by, and no soil has turned.
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And I think there's a recognition at some level that the digging is risky because it might upset the whole apple cart if they, I mean, what they're going to find at Kamloops, I'm pretty sure, is that these soil anomalies in that particular place are due to the installation of a septic field in the 1920s.
00:29:52.740
A new sanitation system was put in the school, and it was a big septic tank, and then there was a field of weeping tile to disperse the liquids, and about something like 2,000 feet of weeping tile were planted in the same area where the apple orchard now is, and in the same area where they did the testing with the GPR.
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So that's probably what they're going to find if they ever do actually dig.
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So I think a lot of people perhaps realize that digging is too risky for the cause that they're engaged in.
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They're much better off by issuing press releases about soil anomalies, hoping that gullible figures in the press, as they often do, will turn those into reports of actual burials.
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I mean, it was in the headline today on the one from Bordell-Burney about, you know, more unmarked graves.
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No unmarked grave has been found anywhere yet in Canada before or after the reports from Kamloops.
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There have been now thousands of soil anomalies have been reported.
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But, well, maybe thousands are too strong, but certainly over a thousand.
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No, actually thousands, excuse me, thousands are not too strong.
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Because from Libret in the Capelle Valley, they claim to have 2,000 soil anomalies.
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But there is not a single credible report or any kind of report, really, not even a dubious report of exhuming a human skeleton, child or otherwise.
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I've never seen a story go so far with so little evidence.
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Well, yeah, and in oral history, was it, oh, I'm forgetting the name of it,
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It was a tuberculosis hospital way back in its time,
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and there were some First Nations people claimed that First Nations kids
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had been buried on the grounds of that, and they did a GPR survey,
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and they found 33 anomalies, and in two different digs,
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We didn't hear a heck of a lot about that, though.
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but um so anyway i'm not holding my breath for for uh any digs to take place now the most recent
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report is that the federal government has engaged a company from the netherlands
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that specializes in looking for remains of missing children
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and apparently as a serious company with scientific credibility to come over and consult
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about the right way to approach this but you know we're already getting protests from this side
00:32:24.680
of the water from from native leaders but well there wasn't enough consultation these people
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are going to be insensitive to our culture what are their protocols uh you know all on and on
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oops sorry cory i bumped my rig here um all we're hearing is reasons uh not to fully cooperate with
00:32:44.840
this investigation from outside so i my guess is at the end of the day we will continue to get the
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reports without any real verification or in some cases uh highly dubious verification like the
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the bones the bone that was found in part of a skull i think it was was found at labret
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you know but that wasn't handled properly um didn't really tell us very much and we have no
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idea that that for sure whether it came from an indian child who might have been at the school
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i had to do some stuff in high prairie and i went and checked out the grouard site and that was a
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large residential school in an isolated area has actually got a nice big cathedral there they use
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it as a college for first nations people still a bit of a rough town as many reserves are but the
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area because that was another one where oh well they found a whole bunch of anomalies and i went
00:34:06.320
physically to where it was and yes it's a catholic cemetery on a hill uh they they it's fenced in
00:34:12.560
even so yes they did their survey inside the cemetery and you could see even just looking at
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the grass the disturbances yes they're they're certainly with somebody buried there at some time
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chances are and you see on most reserves they're usually a wooden cross gets put in and after time
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it disintegrates and goes away but this isn't a discovery this is just establishing a known
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an unknown burial site but it doesn't get represented that way when it hits the news
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yeah this is another angle on it some of the some of the reports concern areas that you might say
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In other cases, they are running their machines
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in areas that are known to have been cemeteries.
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near towns or villages and there was a Catholic
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or Anglican parish there and would have a cemetery.
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were buried there, not great numbers, but you know,
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occasionally. But other people were buried there. So you start using ground penetrating radar
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on an old cemetery, sure, you're going to find soil anomalies. And if you dug, you might well
00:35:22.400
find skeletons or remains. But would they be the remains of children who somehow disappeared
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from the school? Well, for that, you'd have to have other evidence. And again, we haven't
00:35:38.600
we haven't seen any evidence of that well and again like let's just say for example they exhumed
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you know or that there really were children murdered and buried in some of these sites
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i mean shouldn't this be then a criminal investigation a forensic one i mean if i'd
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reported hey there's a body buried in my backyard there behind my house but no no no i don't want
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you digging it up i just wanted to tell you it's back there well i'm not going to have a choice in
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the matter anymore if there's any evidence of it the police are going to come in and they're going
00:36:05.220
dig a hole and and see just what the heck happened there but that doesn't seem to be the case here
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no no it's the uh i mean it's again it's a little different different in different places but
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in most cases the rcmp aren't involved at all in a couple of places the rcmp said well we're
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aware of it but we're letting the first nation lead the investigation you know well what does
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that mean if like you say you find the evidence of a murder in your yard the police don't say
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well you lead the investigation call us if you find something yeah uh i think i think the mounties
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probably realized that that really there's nothing in this uh and that if a body was found it
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probably won't be a child from the school and in any case it was probably way beyond the point
00:36:54.900
where police could do anything with it you know if it's 75 years old what are the police supposed
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to do so yeah the police are not involved in any credible way in this and you're right they should
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be if we took these reports seriously um the police ought to be leading the investigation
00:37:14.040
there ought to be crime scene tape up and uh teams exhuming and so on but none of that is happening
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so that gives you an idea that people who are in a position to understand what's going on
00:37:27.000
actually don't take it seriously it's all a performance it's a performance really yeah so
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getting to the the bottom of the whole thing though because this is really causing a lot of
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damage I mean there's a lot of sensitivity between the first nations and non-first nations and people
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who are concerned and I mean this is just increasing the division it's increasing a lot of
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hurt whether things really you know how they happened or where they happened we need resolution
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though so I want to get to the hardest part how how are we going to close this off because this
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trend just seems to be snowballing rather than than reaching a closure anywhere yeah i think it's
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going to get worse uh before it gets better i unfortunate to have to say that but i don't see
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any signs that anybody in authority is is going to exert any control over it so i think it will
00:38:15.040
continue to to grow eventually everything comes to an end and it will burn itself out like the
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Salem witch trials in Massachusetts in the 17th century, and then later on there will be a period
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of reflection, and people will say, how could we have been so stupid? But these things can go on
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for a very long time in the absence, maybe especially in the absence of evidence, because
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the absence of evidence allows people to keep speculating. So I wish I could tell your viewers
00:38:47.520
that that's going to get better but i fear it's going to get worse that's those are all the signs
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that we're getting more and more of these reports they're repeating the same methodology of pushing
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the gpr around uh collecting stories claiming to have found graves but not not exhuming and not
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testing in any real way and as long as they continue to get money from the government to do
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that i you know i think it will continue so it's unfortunate i know i didn't expect a quick easy
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answer but i was hoping maybe you know you've spent a lot of time on the first nation that
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you'd had a revelation and realized how we can you know fix this but it was worth a shot uh
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it's always my weakness as a pundit i could never foretell the future i was only good at explaining
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the past so well and you've you've written i mean as we close off uh you've done a lot of work on
00:39:36.240
this you wrote first nations second thoughts i remember rushing out to get that and at least
00:39:40.320
you're going into the subject of how we can work towards fixing i mean the whole system
00:39:44.240
in general is failing i think canadians and first nations people all together uh are you still
00:39:50.440
working on on some items now and where can people find the information yeah most of my research on
00:39:55.760
this topic in recent years has been published by the fraser institute and anybody who's interested
00:40:00.860
just google my name in conjunction with fraser institute and you'll find a whole series of
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studies many of which have a fiscal focus of like how much is the government spending and
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how much is it uh is it accomplishing i've written quite a bit about the um the compensation
00:40:18.400
uh well call it a racket which has evolved since the uh big apology in 2008 prime minister
00:40:27.720
harper's apology for the residential schools and the compensation that was paid to the so-called
00:40:34.640
survivors then well that in harper's mind that was supposed to be the end you know this brings
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it to a close it turned out to be just the beginning uh it was uh touched off a whole series
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of of further class actions for different categories of first nations people with different
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different alleged grievances and then when the liberals were elected in 2015 uh
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prime minister trudeau decided not to contest any of these so it's like star was a star trek
00:41:06.740
resistance is futile uh ever since 2015 um the government simply negotiates a settlement every
00:41:14.900
time somebody comes in with one of these class actions and so billions and billions of dollars
00:41:19.620
are being shoveled out the back of the truck the biggest one i don't know how many of your viewers
00:41:24.500
are aware of this a 40 billion dollar settlement for alleged harms to children through the child
00:41:32.180
welfare system but there are many other class actions as well and the government in my opinion
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is derelict in its duty it's not contesting these so that they get a true hearing in court they're
00:41:42.740
saying well come on let's negotiate we'll put up some money for a settlement and so we're running
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into the many billions of dollars and the emotionalism surrounding the missing children
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and unmarked graves myths is a big part of what drives these it makes it hard for people to view
00:41:58.740
these these grievances in any rational context because what's what's more emotional than a
00:42:04.500
missing child you know uh so all this kind of fits together and it's sadly it's maybe a new government
00:42:12.660
will bring a change but i do not don't know how confident i am uh pierre polliver's crowd you know
00:42:21.140
they voted four months ago for a parliamentary resolution that uh indian residential schools
00:42:27.060
were were actual genocide uh i mean do they even believe what they're what they're saying if that's
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true there should be an international investigation and this is what happens when you have a real
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genocide i mean they're just saying they're playing with words but it it um it builds the
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emotionalism yeah well and then you know it's funny because i was going to speak i've got it
00:42:50.400
queued up a little more on that with uh i have the definition in front of me at least one definition
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of what you know if you're going to declare something a genocide and it says an assessment
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of both individual and state responsibility requires a considerable body of evidence it
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must be carried out by a competent tribunal charged with the task well nothing like that
00:43:07.220
has happened yet so you're really making a big leap to a very loaded word without having followed
00:43:12.800
the process to really claim if that happened or not yeah it's a it's a vocabulary inflation of
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course this happens all the time in politics people are constantly reaching for for more
00:43:23.280
dramatic language and so they reached for the word genocide and took it off the shelf and
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first it was cultural genocide um which is uh well i think it's a bad phrase but maybe you
00:43:35.760
could justify it as a kind of a metaphor but very quickly cultural genocide turned into
00:43:41.440
actual literal physical genocide uh which is you know crazy because if that was true how can there
00:43:50.640
be more indigenous people in canada now than than there ever were before the europeans came i mean
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if it was a genocide it wasn't a very effective one but but of course it wasn't a genocide
00:44:02.880
it was what it was was an attempt at acculturation to make it possible for indigenous people to fit
00:44:09.440
into the new uh society which was being created by immigration and you can argue about whether
00:44:15.440
that was right or wrong but it wasn't genocidal so even the leading historians who opened up the
00:44:22.960
whole residential school issue for example jim miller at the university of saskatchewan whose
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book shingle walks vision was the first one that i read on the topic and he's very critical of the
00:44:32.320
schools uh he was a pioneering scholar you know excellent scholar um but he's you know he's flatly
00:44:40.100
stated there was no genocide and there are no there are no unmarked graves and there are no
00:44:44.700
missing children uh so this thing is just spiraled out of control and now it's being driven by people
00:44:51.080
that are um are playing with words that ultimately for financial benefit i think well and and if you
00:44:58.320
got another moment i didn't really want to dive into this but since you know it kind of segwayed
00:45:01.980
into it i mean we saw a house of commons motion from the same one who declared that the residential
00:45:06.160
schools were a genocide uh the same member of parliament now is proposing to make it a crime
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to deny or question the genocide like this is very scary turf that they're starting to tread into
00:45:17.980
on criminalizing this discussion you and I are having today by definition from what this member
00:45:23.540
of parliament wants to enshrine into law could land us in the legal soup I mean this is getting
00:45:28.280
too far but it doesn't seem to be stopping yeah well maybe professor Miller and I should be
00:45:33.560
packing our toothbrushes that don't they let you bring your own toothbrush it's a president
00:45:38.280
there was an excellent column today by Chris Selle in the National Post which went into some
00:45:45.760
of the details and after reading that I think maybe people can relax a little bit and even if
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the thing is passed it's probably going to have qualifications in it which will make it unenforceable
00:45:58.940
so it will turn out to be probably another exercise in virtue signaling without real world
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consequences except for the way in which it debases the climate of public opinion so if
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legislation lies like that is passed as soon as anybody says something which
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doesn't agree with current majority opinion he can be attacked as you know purveying hate speech
00:46:21.760
and so on uh so this should really be strangled before it gets gets any further uh again what will
00:46:30.640
the conservatives do what will deliver it's an ndp proposal the bigger parties are supposed to be
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excuse me more responsible but they voted on mass for the original um residential schools
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equals genocide uh proposal will they now come back and vote for this resolution
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i hope not but uh you know i can't again i'm not totally optimistic about it yeah well we'll we'll
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watch with interest i guess the the game just keeps rolling on and on it's just it seems to
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to be in such a bad direction right now. I appreciate you coming on to speak to us today,
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though, and kind of, you know, examine some of these issues a little further and explain a little
00:47:07.880
bit of what's going on there and the work you've done and still are doing. For those guys who are
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just listening on the audio version, as Professor said, if you Google Tom Flanagan and Fraser
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Institute, you'll find those sorts of things, or you can find a copy of some of those books out
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there as well and things such as that. So thank you for coming on the show again today. I really
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appreciate it and maybe one of these days we'll we'll see well as you said probably in the long
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long run we'll be using hindsight or our kids will and realizing this was a bad endeavor but
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if we could speed the progress towards a conclusion it would be nice well yeah final word what i feel
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i'm doing and others we're not really having much opinion on public opinion right now i mean we have
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people like you who are covering the issue but we're not getting much traction in the mainstream
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media, but I hope that we're laying down a factual record that when the time comes for
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re-evaluation, and something like this is happening at a much more accelerated pace
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You know, two years ago, we were all running around about the sky is falling.
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Now, there's a lot of good scientific studies coming out in referee journals like The Lancet,
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a lot of stuff coming out saying, hey, wait a minute, we overreacted, way overreacted.
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so I think there is some value in trying to establish a factual record even if it doesn't have
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a big political impact at the moment but it's there when the time comes great well thank you
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very much and I hope we can talk again soon okay Corey thanks for what you're doing great thank you
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so again that was a professor Tom Flanagan he's been on the show before and he's done a great
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deal of work uh really well worth looking up of course after the show you got to make it to the
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end here, guys. Then you can go look at all that body of work that's out there on this issue and
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many others that Professor Flanagan has worked on. Jimmy Parnell saying, no toothbrush from home in
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jail. So there we go. I know because you got to give all that work to file it into a shiv and
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stuff. I've watched all those shows. So whatever you pack up there on your way into jail, maybe a
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toothbrush isn't the thing for it. But I mean, you know, as he did put it, I did read that Chris
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Sully piece on that with the motion to try and criminalize even, you know, questioning whether
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or not it was a genocide at the residential schools. And it's true, like the chances of
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conviction would probably be really slim in it. But we also know, I mean, that kind of say, you
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know, ties into what I was talking about before with self-defense. The process can be the punishment.
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They can really beat the heck out of you while you defend yourself if that law is brought in.
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I think Sully's story also referenced like Ernst Zundel.
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You just sideline him as the hateful kook that he is.
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But he went through a whole bunch of charges and everything else.
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And at the end of it, I guess, retroactively, the charges were kind of lifted for his Holocaust denial in Canada, even though technically that's supposed to be illegal.
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So it is harder to criminalize that sort of discussion than an NDP member of parliament making that motion in the House might think it is.
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So we needn't sweat it too much, but we've got to have the discussions.
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I mean, when people want to criminalize speech, you always have to let your, you know, get your alarm bells up.
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I mean, hash it out, fight it out, sideline people, call people things, fine, but don't criminalize the speech.
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And this ongoing thing, it just frustrates me to no end.
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Some of the stuff they've talked about, as I was talking about with Professor Flanagan to begin with,
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a lot of this has been tipped off by oral history in Kamloops.
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That's why I wanted to speak of it, because these were stories that came, and I believe that a lot of the people who testified saying these things believe these things really happened.
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These were members who were kids in the residential school there, and they said they'd heard about children being murdered down in the furnace room, babies hung from hooks.
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There were stories, outrageous stories, children being brought up in the night and taken out with shovels and forced to dig the holes to bury the murdered bodies of their compatriots.
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Now, that's horrific. And that is a murder allegation, a gross murder allegation of the worst sort. So why is there not a forensic investigation going on? Well, and the other thing is, remember kids' stories, right? These are kids that told each other stories in the night when they were in a boarding school, basically.
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a lot of them are fairy tales. Maybe not necessarily all. Maybe they'll dig a hole
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and find a body, but we've got to start digging some holes, you guys. And some people think that
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when we question these things that we're saying that the residential school system was a good
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idea. No, that school was, there was a lot of things wrong, that school system, and there was
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a lot of abuses. In the Port Alberni case, the one recently where they feel that they might have
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found where they found more GPR anomalies. There was a guy, a school custodian who between the
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40s and 60s, he got convicted for a whole pile of sexual assaults on the children there. Like
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there's some children endured some horrific treatment in those schools. There's no getting
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around that. Unfortunately, sick pedophiles and predators are always drawn to circumstances where
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they can get access to children. I mean, they're monsters. They're predators. And these, those
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residential schools I mean they would have been a magnet for those kinds of pieces of human garbage
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and you know they went to those schools and you know they abused some kids there was stuff that
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went on I mean there was stuff recently that still again the rights of first nations people
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were definitely stepped on there used to have to be an Indian agent on the reserve and a first
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nations person would actually have to register and get permission to leave the reserve and I'm not
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talking about at 1890. I'm talking about 1950. So yeah, we've got things that happened that we
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want to clarify. There's only so much that again, we've settled and settled and settled and settled
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though. Now it's just, I mean, they talk about the truth and reconciliation commission. Well,
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let's get to the truth. And yes, there were bad things, but we've got a lot of things that are
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exaggerated. A lot of things that are claimed that obviously didn't happen. We need to investigate
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further. You can't quell investigation on this. And it's being stifled. I mean, some of the stuff
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too is the expansion of the terms. And that's what Professor Flanagan spoke of as well. And we're
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talking about where you talk about genocide. And somebody else mentioned the term survivors.
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Everybody's a survivor. Now, they're talking about kids who went to day schools as survivors.
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Hey, I went to an all-boys English-style school.
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Unpleasant and something that schools don't do anymore.
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I don't reference myself as a survivor, but it just keeps going on and on.
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And now we're compensating like third generation down from people who even attended these schools.
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We've got to remember only 100, I think it was 150,000 children over the course of 100 years actually attended these schools, a tiny percentage of them, and that were residential, and most of those were voluntary, believe it or not.
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They weren't snatched out of households, again, getting back to some of the mythology, though there were some that were forced.
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And some of the other stuff that's talked about, this 60s snatch, they talk about the amount of children taken in and put into foster care and social services, and unfortunately some got abused once they got into foster care.
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but nobody likes to talk about it they were taken from households that were a mess they were taken
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from households that were abusive they were taken from households that were filthy they were taken
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from households where these children were being abused or malnourished or the parents were immersed
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in substance abuse and couldn't properly care for the children that's why they were taken out and
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the state would have been faulted if you leave children in those conditions then whose fault is
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that when that child gets beaten to death or molested or starved to death in those households.
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What we got to look at is the bigger picture. Why are so many households so dysfunctional
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on First Nation reserves? Now that gets into a much bigger discussion because, I mean, yes,
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and I've said it many a time, the entire First Nations reserve system is wrong. It's racial
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apartheid. It's separating a whole separate race from the rest of society. It's making them
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dependent on everybody else. There's, there's not many opportunities for people to pay their
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own bills, find employment, things like that on the reserves. You've just got a recipe for a
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dysfunctional society for the people on there. Plus constantly telling them of false stories
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of potential abuse. I mean, and there was real abuse too, but we're just increasing the divide
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division, the sense of victimhood, the hurt, and it leads to more substance abuse. And this cycle
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keeps going and going and going. You really want to see an end. And I know I'm not going to see it
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in my lifetime, but this reserve system has got to end. It's not getting anywhere. I mean, who's
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winning? Who's winning? Who's doing well? I mean, I know people complain about the costs and reserves
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and things like that. Whatever. You know what? If they were all, all the people living on reserves
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were living comfortably and happy and doing well, I might be frustrated with the cost, but I'd be
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okay with that. But the cost is high and they're living in misery. Go check it out, guys. Go out,
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get onto a reserve. Most people haven't been on one. I worked in the oil field for decades.
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I worked on all sorts of isolated reserves, and I tell you what, they're bloody rough,
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and people are living in nasty, nasty condition. But we've got, it's not going to change as long
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as they're stuck on those segregated areas. Pat Andrusiak saying, end the Indian Act,
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and as well, yes, you know, the Indian Act itself is a gross racist document. It's over a hundred
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and some years old. And race-based policy, it's always wrong. Race-based policy was wrong in the
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past, absolutely, but we can't fix it by adding more race-based policy. I mean, I think the more
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race-based policy is making it worse. I don't think it, I know it. I mean, Canada has not had a pretty
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history. We turned back boatloads of Jews, refugees in World War II. We interred Japanese people in
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Canada and stole their property in World War II. This wasn't that long ago, relatively. You know,
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the Chinese, they were put on boats and shipped back to China after they worked so hard to help
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build the railway that they say created this country. But of all of them, are the Jews and
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underclass that are having a hard time in Canada, the Japanese, the Chinese, actually no Asians.
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I don't know. I haven't seen the numbers on Jews, but for the most part, they're usually doing
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pretty good. We didn't separate them into other areas and try to keep compensating and compensating
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and compensating. Instead, they moved forward and they're doing well as cultures and societies.
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they maintain their cultural roots and still stay functional holy cow we're getting along it's not
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assimilation you know you you still see uh plenty of observances for for center and hanukkah and
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maybe things with jews chinatown of course is fantastic downtown in japanese culture so look
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at that you could be within the society and not have to live on a separate reserve and still
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maintain the cultural practices of your roots why is that considered impossible with first nations
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Why is that considered racist to say that we could do that with First Nations?
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And what's going on anyways, unfortunately, a lot of the confidence is being lost in the reserves.
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I had a whole bunch more stories I wanted to cover today.
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But of course, when I get on that First Nations one, because I got to see it a lot firsthand
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and how bad it is on the reserves and how dead-ended it is, it does get me upset.
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it really does because it really is a waste of very good people and we're going way down the
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wrong path of trying to resolve this and make for a better future for them and everybody else
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by the way i'm going to close up next week i've got another professor coming in and another one
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is considered controversial at times professor francis widdowson she was turned away at the
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university of lethbridge as a speaker by a bunch of screaming woke little babies yes the students
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there, the snowflakes. But I want to talk not so much about what Professor Whitteson did to stir
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up the world, but the dangers again of having the woke shutting down discourse and how bad
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our post-secondary institutions have gotten. So yes, it's going to be another interesting
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conversation next week. Dave will probably be back. We'll see. And of course, there'll be lots
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of other news items, things going on. The pipeline will be on tonight at seven o'clock. Tune in for
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that. We'll be covering a few more issues. I'll be on that as well. And aside from that, keep coming
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to the Western Standard, guys, and thanks for joining us today. I'll see you all again next
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