Western Standard - January 12, 2023


CMS: Justice system reform needs to become a priority


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In this episode of the Western Standard Weekly Live show, Cory rants about the lack of progress in the case against three men charged with mischief for their alleged role in the Coutts Border Blockade last year. Is it fair to keep them in jail for so long?

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00:00:00.000 Hey there,
00:00:29.980 it's january 11th 2023 it's a wednesday and welcome to the cory morgan show i am of course
00:00:36.540 cory morgan this is the western standards weekly live show where i get into some issues i have
00:00:41.480 guests on i rant i rave and of course i interact with you guys whenever i can so that reminder
00:00:47.180 with us being live make use of that comment scroll guys get in there converse with each other send
00:00:52.540 questions my way send them to the guests uh you know chat with each other i've seen some great
00:00:57.380 conversations coming up in the chat
00:00:59.480 scroll or even discussion subjects
00:01:01.400 I never even thought of for the show
00:01:02.980 and is brought up from within
00:01:05.360 there. Again, just try to keep it civil
00:01:07.280 though. If we really want to get scrapping and fighting
00:01:09.280 get onto Twitter. We can
00:01:11.020 fight at length and be nasty
00:01:12.900 to each other there and
00:01:15.140 let's keep things relatively decent here.
00:01:17.440 So good to see you though. You got Debbie and Tabor, Scott
00:01:19.420 and Fort Mac, Paradoxy and
00:01:21.220 Mr. Stanley all checking in
00:01:23.440 and lots of others coming in on the show.
00:01:25.560 I got a good one today. Dave Naylor's back, so we'll be checking in with him in a little bit
00:01:30.140 here on the news and items that are going on as well. I got Michelle Sterling from Friends of
00:01:35.180 Science. A lot of people are familiar with her. She's been on the show before. A great one to 0.99
00:01:38.700 talk to, a resource to talk about, of course, Justin's great transition. And no, just transition,
00:01:45.200 I should say. Certainly great in his little world or mind. And we'll break that down and have some
00:01:50.920 talk about that and of course the the ag check-in so uh good to see the rest of you there elmer kevin
00:01:55.960 tracy all the regulars are in today it's good to see uh just a note and a heads up i mentioned it
00:02:01.560 a bit before too i am going to be taking off for a couple of weeks i will be putting things up the
00:02:06.280 audio on the podcast during that time there will be some content and i probably write some columns
00:02:11.160 and things but this full show for two weeks won't be on i'll be down in the desert there in arizona
00:02:15.080 for a bit, taking a bit of a breather. So just giving you that warning. So the rant on things
00:02:20.920 right now. So you might be familiar with the saying justice delayed is justice denied. And I
00:02:27.180 mean, it's an apt saying. It's a good one. I was speaking actually to Ty Northcott last night. You
00:02:32.280 might remember him. He ran the big illegal rodeo in Alberta during the COVID restrictions. Well,
00:02:37.600 his next court date over that is coming up in this June. That'll be more than two years since
00:02:44.660 the rodeo was held, I believe, and who knows how long before that's all finished. Now, section 11
00:02:50.340 of the charter covers the rights for people who've been charged with offenses. Subsection B states the
00:02:55.780 person has a right to be tried within a reasonable time. Now, reasonable, that's a subject, is a
00:03:01.080 subjective term, and it's open to interpretation. In Canada, the waiting list to get on trial, though,
00:03:06.500 is becoming unreasonable by any interpretation. A trial has been scheduled for April 2024
00:03:11.700 for three men who were charged with mischief over 5,000
00:03:15.560 for their alleged roles in the Coutts border blockade
00:03:18.140 during the trucker's convoy protest last year.
00:03:20.500 That will be 26 months after the alleged offense.
00:03:23.580 Now, while the term mischief makes the charge sound minor,
00:03:26.440 the men charged could be sentenced to as long as 10 years for that offense.
00:03:30.000 So is it fair or humane to keep them waiting for over two years
00:03:33.040 with such penalties hanging over their heads?
00:03:35.100 I don't want to go down the rabbit hole
00:03:36.260 on whether or not the charges against these particular men
00:03:38.200 or the potential sentence is appropriate.
00:03:40.040 That's a separate issue for a separate show.
00:03:42.340 They are entitled to defend themselves in a court in a timely manner, though, and they won't be getting that.
00:03:47.840 In 2016, the Supreme Court in Canada put its foot down and set a ceiling of 30 months for Superior Court trials and 18 months for Provincial Court.
00:03:56.060 Yeah, those numbers represented what the Supreme Court wanted to bring the times down to at that time.
00:04:00.400 Now, when a person is awaiting trial, their life is in limbo.
00:04:03.620 They aren't convicted of anything, yet they're living under limitations.
00:04:07.060 They might be held in remand for that period, or they might be released with bail conditions.
00:04:10.880 They usually can't legally travel, and they certainly can't make any long-term life plans
00:04:14.860 when they don't know if they're going to be incarcerated for a period of time in the future.
00:04:18.780 Now, in a system where this person is presumed innocent,
00:04:21.160 they're enduring quite a bit of punishment before they have a chance to try and prove their innocence.
00:04:25.920 These waits also, of course, increase pressure upon people charged to plea down to lesser offenses
00:04:30.800 just to get it all over with.
00:04:32.200 It's a pretty rough choice to make if you believe yourself to be innocent.
00:04:35.220 Of course, not everybody waiting for trial is innocent.
00:04:37.620 I mean, most of them are probably guilty.
00:04:39.160 Due to the long waits for these trials, though, the resources in remand and such are becoming scarce.
00:04:44.940 Criminals that should have been considered too dangerous for bail are often released due to pressures to relieve remand space.
00:04:53.240 Prosecutors and judges, again, they're more inclined to pursue plea bargains to try and catch up with some of the backlog as well.
00:04:58.240 So some terribly dangerous people are getting light sentences due to this.
00:05:02.780 Justice reform rarely becomes an election issue, but it really should.
00:05:07.060 The government is too big and intrudes into our lives in way too many ways as it is,
00:05:11.020 but one area that they should be involved in is justice.
00:05:13.260 Policing and justice are clear areas where we need government authority,
00:05:17.000 and we're starving for both of them.
00:05:18.480 The protection of the public for crime should be a prime priority for governments,
00:05:22.420 and they're failing.
00:05:23.720 We need to increase expenditures and expand our criminal trial ability.
00:05:27.840 I mean, justice reform, yeah, it just isn't a flashy issue,
00:05:30.440 and it isn't an easy way to deal with.
00:05:32.100 Solutions to the backlogs in the court system, they aren't going to come fast.
00:05:34.940 recruiting and retaining more prosecutors public defenders and judges can't be done overnight and
00:05:39.380 it won't come cheap but it has to be done all the same currently the system is failing citizens
00:05:44.320 charged with crimes and citizens uh it's failing the citizens who have been charged with crimes
00:05:48.200 it's failing the citizens who want to be protected from the criminals i mean if the government can't
00:05:51.720 maintain even a justice system what the hell good is it all right well that's what's got me going
00:05:57.580 today with our justice system that's two weeks of justice in a row i'll come up with something
00:06:00.640 fresh when i get back from the desert uh so let's get on and check in with dave in the newsroom and
00:06:06.120 see what else is going on out there in the world today hey dave how's it going good happy new year
00:06:11.880 to you cory yes and to you good to see you back so yeah i had a good break out there uh
00:06:18.480 help me out here give me some advice how far into a new year do you say happy new year
00:06:24.260 like because there's been people i haven't seen do i keep going till the end of the month do i
00:06:28.200 keep going until end of February? When? I don't know. It depends on whether, I mean,
00:06:32.400 there's so many variables. I mean, do you genuinely care if they're having a happy new
00:06:35.660 year or is it just a formality? I mean, in that case, you might as well just say hello,
00:06:39.120 but if you haven't seen it for a while and you're concerned, then take it to the end of the month.
00:06:43.920 All right. To the end of the month. So as soon as I get back, you're buggering off.
00:06:48.060 Yes. Yes. I'm going to escape for a little while.
00:06:50.840 Good for you. You deserve a rest. You're a hardworking man, but it's going to kind of
00:06:55.920 take you off though that you're leaving and the temperatures here are getting warmer, right? I
00:07:00.780 mean, the forecast for the next couple of weeks here in Calgary is pretty good. Yeah, but it's
00:07:06.520 all relative, you know? I mean, as you can see with that trailer and the generator and all the
00:07:09.760 good stuff I got to go sit in the desert there, it's still going to be, yeah, what? Plus five,
00:07:14.980 plus 10 in Calgary. I'm going to be sitting in plus 21, plus 22 in the Tucson area. So I'll still
00:07:20.580 be able to look down on what you're suffering for temperatures. All right, but you be careful of
00:07:25.600 snakes right oh yeah always watch for those and scorpions anyways we had a uh busy morning on the
00:07:32.460 the news site uh cory you remember that uh teacher down in ontario with the big boobs uh i'm not even 0.52
00:07:40.780 sure what they are anymore uh transgendering or what but the school board is bringing in rules
00:07:46.680 they're gonna they're gonna come up with a dress code and they're gonna try and and stop this uh 0.87
00:07:51.560 this tomfoolery. Speaking of tomfoolery, the WHO, World Health Organization, wants masks to be put
00:07:59.900 back on airplanes to stop the new spread of COVID. So good luck with that. Spare a moment, spare a
00:08:09.920 quarter for poor Elon Musk. In the last four months, he has lost $200 billion. That's billion
00:08:18.160 with a B so Guinness Book of World Records for the most amount of money
00:08:22.960 lost by a single individual but you know I don't think we're gonna have too many
00:08:27.580 garage sales for a few billion aside our cartoon Chronicle has got a good one
00:08:36.640 there you can see right now that Danielle and Justin arguing about the
00:08:42.280 just transition. And our parliamentary columnist, David Creighton, weighs in on the Three Amigos
00:08:49.640 summit, which has, I guess, ended now, but still some bilateral meetings going on between Trudeau
00:08:57.100 and the Prime Minister or President of Mexico. Creighton weighs in on his thoughts on it. And
00:09:03.560 as you can see by the headline, he calls it a dismal exercise in farcical delusions. So,
00:09:09.380 I think that means he doesn't like it, Corey.
00:09:11.200 So that's what's our main section at the moment.
00:09:16.320 Hey, have you been following along with this Prince Harry book in the last couple of weeks?
00:09:21.380 I'm ashamed to admit that I have.
00:09:23.420 And it's just dark comedy that I can't turn away from.
00:09:26.680 It is.
00:09:27.260 It's like a slow car crash.
00:09:29.420 Are you on Team Harry or are you on Team William?
00:09:32.700 I'm more on Team William at this point.
00:09:34.840 I mean, that's a family that really needs to regain a little bit of dignity.
00:09:37.620 and Harry seems to be just determined
00:09:39.500 to pull it right back down.
00:09:41.440 Yeah, I don't think anybody wants to read
00:09:43.960 about his frostbitten todger, to be honest with you.
00:09:48.200 But the reason I bring it up
00:09:49.640 is our columnist, Linda Slobodian,
00:09:52.140 will shortly have her take on it.
00:09:55.160 And yeah, I think she's a bit on Team William as well.
00:09:58.740 So she'll be good shortly, Corey.
00:10:00.760 And you have a great vacation, my friend.
00:10:03.260 Great, thanks, Dave.
00:10:04.280 Well, we'll check in with you on here in three weeks.
00:10:07.620 Thanks, man. All right. That is our news editor, Dave Naylor. As you see, we cover everything,
00:10:12.560 you know, a little bit from some, I guess you could say lighter stuff. Linda's going to be 0.71
00:10:15.560 writing Slobodian. She writes on some pretty, some deep issues and some important stuff
00:10:19.800 quite often. But she'll be weighing in on the Prince William and Harry thing going on as well.
00:10:25.160 And of course, lots of local news, national news, opinion, things like that. David Creighton,
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00:11:21.540 promote your product or service or whatever it might be all right let's look into a few other
00:11:26.340 news items we will be getting to uh michelle in a little while but i've still got some other stuff
00:11:31.560 to cover i see you know something that's kind of coming up if you might remember i mean we had
00:11:36.460 quite the thing going on in november we were running out of children's tylenol and advil and
00:11:40.280 all that and cold medications and into december and everybody's screaming and of course the
00:11:44.380 finger pointing is going on uh premier smith i guess sourced some from turkey but it took a long
00:11:51.660 time to get the Health Canada approval. And here we are, months later, it sounds like 250,000 bottles
00:11:58.700 of it are going to be showing up in the province this weekend. But most of what the delay was,
00:12:03.160 was meeting the Health Canada approvals. And that's where I get mixed on things.
00:12:07.280 There's reasons we got standards, fair enough, and approvals, you know, you don't want
00:12:10.820 back alley medications coming in. But this was a well-established pharmaceutical company. I mean,
00:12:15.220 we're talking about acetaminophen, you know, not experimental drugs, things like that.
00:12:19.360 and apparently this Turkish supplier, I mean, they supply a lot of European nations that hold
00:12:23.960 it to very high standards. I just find it hard to believe. Why does it take so damn long? I mean,
00:12:29.320 if this is something that is pressing, if it's something that's more immediate,
00:12:32.500 I mean, are the standards pretty straightforward, you know, demonstrating how much medical medicinal
00:12:38.040 content is within it? I guess some of it was the childproof caps. Okay, fair enough. I guess that
00:12:43.300 was an oversight. That's part of what I've heard now. I'm not sure, but yes, I guess that's why
00:12:47.980 it's going to the pharmacies first rather than on the shelves, because I guess the first run
00:12:52.220 might not have proper childproof caps, which is a standard thing in Canada. I just get so
00:12:56.840 frustrated. I understand the reasons for rules, but at the same time, why does bureaucracy have
00:13:02.680 to be so damn slow? I mean, they just can't pivot. Whatever need there is, I'm sure the flu season
00:13:07.600 will probably be finished by the time the shelves are fully stocked again. And maybe we'll learn
00:13:13.960 from this. But I mean, it's funny, it's watching the people lined up and basically cheering for
00:13:20.160 Smith to fail. And we've been watching that happening right from the moment she began on
00:13:24.740 this. They're saying, oh, you're wasting your time trying to source it. But you know, if she
00:13:28.160 hadn't gone out and got it on her own, we would be looking at shortages for months and months more.
00:13:32.460 And they would certainly blame her for that as well. There's no winning. I don't know why they
00:13:36.740 help people go into politics on any level. You know, if they're liberals, they get guys like
00:13:41.420 me crawling all over them, no matter what they're doing. And I'm sure it can't be pleasant. And of
00:13:45.620 course, if they're conservative, like a premier Smith, well, they certainly get it as well. I
00:13:50.040 guess we should be thankful that some of those masochistic devils are into the business. Um, 1.00
00:13:54.840 something that's been big in the news as well. Speaking of, you know, uh, again, those double
00:13:58.720 standards, what's going on out there. The, uh, F 35 jets suddenly try to Trudeau says, these are
00:14:04.100 are the things to have. We're going to buy 88 of them for, what is it? $85 million, $19 billion.
00:14:13.240 Now, back in a few years ago, when Trudeau was a leader of the opposition and he was running to be
00:14:18.180 the prime minister, he said in no uncertain terms, Canada will not be buying these jet fighters.
00:14:24.320 Something changed. And here we are. Suddenly it's a revelation. Trudeau is saving the world.
00:14:29.680 is getting us up to date on these jets.
00:14:33.660 The double standards are all over the place
00:14:35.840 and they didn't get any cheaper for waiting.
00:14:38.180 Now, again, there's some discussions happening.
00:14:39.620 People saying there were some questions
00:14:40.720 that were unanswered eight, 10 years ago
00:14:43.720 when they were first looking at these
00:14:45.140 that have now been resolved.
00:14:47.240 I don't know.
00:14:48.460 When it comes to military procurement,
00:14:51.080 you know, I mean, we look at the,
00:14:53.500 as, you know, David Creighton's
00:14:56.940 already been laughing about
00:14:57.800 and they call it the three amigos summit down in Mexico with the American president and the
00:15:02.580 Mexican president and Trudeau. Trudeau desperately, he just really wants to be respected on the world
00:15:07.580 scene. And it really hasn't happened. And we see that he embarrasses himself and us typically just
00:15:11.560 about every time he leaves the country's borders. You know, he gets chewed out at meetings from
00:15:15.800 China. He insulted all of India for weeks on end before realizing what he was doing over there that
00:15:20.980 other time. And basically, he's been shut out of important discussions and groups and things when
00:15:26.100 it comes to NATO and stuff like that. Part of it is because Canada's military expenditures aren't
00:15:30.160 even a fraction of what the commitment's supposed to be to be a NATO member. But our procurement,
00:15:34.480 and it's not just Trudeau, this has been going on for decades. This has been going on since
00:15:38.760 Mulroney and into Harper and Kretchen. We can't seem to get to upgrading. We can spend money,
00:15:44.760 but nothing has come. So we got, I'm looking at this, the government spent almost $5 billion
00:15:49.940 dollars on some new warships. Five billion. They haven't started building them yet. That's just
00:15:56.320 in preparation because they've been spending decades on this crap. I mean, meanwhile, I don't
00:16:00.580 know what they're out in now, rowboats. I mean, the Navy is hopelessly out of date. And I mean,
00:16:05.880 technology is integral when it comes to something like defense and things like that. And they think
00:16:10.680 they might be able to get these things going within another couple of years to start building
00:16:15.260 them. Sure enough, Irving is getting the contract and they're talking about spending $300 billion
00:16:20.820 on those ships. $300 billion to upgrade Canada's Navy. Now, maybe it's worth it. I don't know,
00:16:28.400 but my, that's a lot of money. And if we look at, say, for example, the Trans Mountain Pipeline,
00:16:33.340 which private dollars we're going to build for, I think it was a 4.6 billion or something to begin
00:16:37.820 with, it's up to an estimated $21 billion now that Justin Trudeau has gotten his grimy little hands
00:16:43.480 on it and still not moving any oil. So this 300 billion for these ships, I can't imagine what the
00:16:50.640 price is going to be if and when they ever get done. If you really want to look into a sad, sad
00:16:55.760 joke with the state of Canada's military affairs, I listened to a great piece on that with the
00:17:02.340 sidearms, I guess, that military members in Canada are carrying. They're carrying sidearms that are
00:17:06.800 literally of a World War II vintage. That's how old they are. Apparently they're pretty good ones. 1.00
00:17:10.460 They're good handguns, good solid ones, but come on, they're getting pretty old here, guys.
00:17:15.140 And the government has been talking for like 50 years, government after government after government,
00:17:19.380 about changing out these sidearms.
00:17:20.920 They've spent like hundreds of billions of dollars to study and talk about and source and discuss procuring
00:17:27.660 and think about it and test some things and check.
00:17:30.140 And still to this day, they haven't gotten new ones.
00:17:32.440 The person I listened to on that show said basically they could have gone to Cabela's,
00:17:35.680 bought better handguns from all of those and just giving them to the soldiers for probably 10% of
00:17:40.680 that price. And they would have been newer, better sidearms. But this is Canada. Speaking of, you
00:17:45.740 know, I'm getting on that theme, what I'm talking about, bureaucracy. They just, it ties everything
00:17:49.580 up. It gums it up and nothing can get done efficiently. Even the things that just seem so
00:17:54.200 damn simple, we can't get them done. Uh, Brian, uh, Dara's saying, I see another sub disaster
00:18:00.220 happening, you know, uh, regarding the planes. Yeah, I know you see all sorts of disasters going
00:18:05.260 on. The subs you might be speaking of, I mean, Canada some years ago bought some diesel submarines
00:18:10.580 from Great Britain. I don't know if you remember that, you know, it was quite a while back. And
00:18:13.740 when they tried to get them back to Canada, one of them caught fire and it killed a soldier or a
00:18:19.700 sailor or two in the process. We were buying their old used junk, basically. We couldn't even get it
00:18:24.200 home without killing our own service members. And meanwhile, we have one of the largest Arctic
00:18:29.240 coastlines in the world, and we can't get to it because we don't have nuclear subs. And even with
00:18:34.620 this $300 billion they're talking about spending, that won't give us the nuclear sub capability.
00:18:38.940 They're not buying those. So when we talk about sovereignty, we talk about Arctic sovereignty,
00:18:43.600 we talk about getting up there. We can't even get there. If countries are going to argue with us
00:18:48.660 about whether it's our domain or not, the first question they're going to ask is, well, can you
00:18:51.820 access it? Well, no. Well, then how can you claim it? You know, the United States is up there
00:18:56.580 messing around under our ice. China is up there under the ice. Russia is under the ice. Who knows
00:19:01.380 who else is up meddling around in there? Great Britain? Not us. As an Arctic country, we never
00:19:06.720 had the foresight to think about perhaps getting the military means to get to every corner of our
00:19:12.020 country. So ugly condition there. What was it? I see Jim Hendry saying, yes, maybe give the military
00:19:20.020 all the handguns that they're planning on seizing from legal gun owners. Yeah, but I think most of
00:19:24.820 the legal gun owners, you know, took their handguns out onto a Canadian Navy ship and they feared it
00:19:29.780 was going to go down. So they threw all their guns over the side of the ship to regain the
00:19:34.520 ballast so it would keep floating. So those guns have all been reported lost. So I'm afraid there's
00:19:37.940 nothing for the government to seize there. So yeah, it's just a sad running joke. Richard French
00:19:45.860 saying those subs are apparently still in dry dock. And so Sean, yeah, saying they're dry docked
00:19:49.700 in Halifax, you know? So yeah, great investment. Another issue that's been a problem with the
00:19:55.160 procurement and stuff through the Irving shipbuilders, I guess, is chronic strikes,
00:20:01.740 of course, because it's a unionized setup and they can't get anything done up there. So I don't know,
00:20:07.340 I feel for Canadian service members, whether they're on the ground or in the air or in the
00:20:11.360 Navy, we can't just seem to outfit them. I remember one embarrassment before I get to Michelle, I'm
00:20:15.620 going to get there really quickly, was it was during one of the desert, I don't know if it was
00:20:19.680 the first desert storm in Iraq or if it was the second time we were over there, but Canadian
00:20:24.220 soldiers didn't have, what they had was olive green uniforms, which of course, when you're
00:20:28.200 standing out in the desert does not help you camouflage very well. And they were actually
00:20:32.220 being lent like ponchos and blankets from other military forces just for their own safety. So
00:20:36.780 they could cover up these dark green blots because you kind of stand out in the Iraqi desert as this
00:20:41.760 dark green blob out there when everything else is a sand color. Something as simple as camouflage
00:20:47.880 outfits. And we can't seem to get that for our members. So bless those guys and women who are
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00:21:17.940 and more importantly, educating the public about how we keep guns out of the hands of the wrong
00:21:22.660 people who become a member. It's absolutely worth every penny. All right. Well, here we are. We've
00:21:31.240 got Michelle Sterling from the Friends of Science on. Hi, Michelle. It's good to have you back. I
00:21:35.080 think you were one of my last guests when I kind of wrapped up the daily show I had on the go. And
00:21:39.740 I'm glad we've got the chance to get you back on. So welcome back. Thanks so much and happy
00:21:44.180 new year to everyone. And to you. So yeah, you know, you're well, as when I reached out, I mean,
00:21:49.960 something that's big in the news, something, a lot of discussions going on about is the
00:21:53.620 just transition. You guys addressed that at length back in April, trying to lay out what it's about
00:22:00.260 and everything, but perhaps if we could start there, because people are now, of course, all
00:22:04.060 arguing about what it may mean or what it's about. I mean, what is the just transition?
00:22:09.140 Well, it's hard to know. Like it's a bit of a foggy day, if you like, when you look at the
00:22:14.620 just transition because there's a nine page report on the government website that talks about
00:22:22.040 the just transition and how they want to be good to workers who are in industries that will be
00:22:28.140 phased out presumably oil gas and coal but what are they going to transition to I mean there's
00:22:36.000 just no transition, if you like. So all the things like wind, solar, any novel form of energy like
00:22:47.360 hydrogen, it all requires oil, gas and coal to make the devices to power the units that install
00:22:55.140 them, that maintain them, that back them up. So, you know, what are they really talking about in
00:23:00.360 just transition because what are you going to transition to you're going to transition to
00:23:06.360 electricity well electricity is a secondary form of energy it's generated by something usually
00:23:14.840 natural gas hydro or coal or nuclear or maybe biomass but you know i have some statistics
00:23:22.680 here from natural resources canada just to kind of put this in perspective for people
00:23:27.160 of Canada's primary energy consumption in 2019, crude oil, natural gas, and natural gas liquids
00:23:36.160 accounted for 71% of the total, uranium 16%, coal 5%, hydro 5%, and other renewables like biomass
00:23:46.480 and wind and solar combined, 3%. So we're not going to transition to wind and solar overnight,
00:23:56.620 or at all because we're going to need oil gas and coal to make all those things and excluding
00:24:03.980 uranium fossil fuels accounted for 76 of canada's total primary energy supply in 2019 and biofuels
00:24:12.620 waste four percent and wind and solar one percent so they're deluding you they're deceiving you
00:24:21.340 they're misleading the public because there's no way that you can actually do this kind of
00:24:26.780 transition it's impossible and it's also technically and economically impossible we've got a report by
00:24:33.980 ken gregory our research director and he did an analysis of decarbonization in the united states
00:24:40.460 it would cost trillions of dollars 13 times the gdp of the u.s to decarbonize the u.s and we did
00:24:49.100 an assessment of rbc's um two trillion dollar plan and it's way way way underestimated so
00:24:56.700 you know we have professional engineers who know how things work rather than e-ngos that are 1.00
00:25:02.380 modeling on a computer and going look we can make canada run on hydro from quebec ha you know you
00:25:07.980 can't quebec is already out of hydro with their present uh ev and electric heating policies in
00:25:16.380 And in Quebec, Parker Gallant wrote an article about how throughout the coldest days of winter, it's natural gas in Ontario that's propping up Quebec.
00:25:29.400 So, you know, this is some kind of bizarre delusion by the federal government to think that they're going to transition to anything.
00:25:39.060 That's my rant.
00:25:40.700 No problem.
00:25:41.640 That's the ranting is what this show is about.
00:25:43.500 And it's a good one.
00:25:44.380 And part of it, I think what gets a lot of people nervous, though, is, okay, this government just doesn't seem to be working within common sense.
00:25:52.860 But most of the economic indicators, world demand, indicate that there's going to be very strong demand for our oil and gas for decades to come.
00:26:01.740 We have a labor shortage in the oil and gas sector right now.
00:26:05.640 Why would we even be thinking about transitioning people out of it? 0.99
00:26:08.620 We should be training people to get them into it.
00:26:10.520 We should be maximizing our production for this world need.
00:26:13.440 but that's what makes us fear that the government's going to push them out and create
00:26:16.900 the need to transition them. And that's, that's nerve wracking.
00:26:20.420 Right. Well, I suspect that some of this bad advice has come from McKinsey and company.
00:26:25.620 I think everyone should read this book and it will explain a lot of things that have happened
00:26:30.220 in Canada because they've been a big advisor to the federal government. And we did a report
00:26:36.620 called grounded in reality a couple of years ago that was countering smart prosperity. And at the
00:26:42.700 time, McKinsey had come up with this notion that over the next decade, $60,000 jobs would be created
00:26:50.980 every year in cleantech. Well, that never happened because that market doesn't exist.
00:26:58.000 It's a non-starter. In the Just Transition Plan that I mentioned earlier, the government has
00:27:07.300 $15 billion for investments, $15 billion for public transit, $17.6 billion for green recovery,
00:27:14.860 whatever that is. These are billions of dollars that are just obviously flowing to the pockets
00:27:20.540 of green grifters, green crony capitalists. And you have to realize, as you just said,
00:27:26.880 the global energy demand is only going to grow. Western nations, this is North America and Europe,
00:27:33.320 We're only 15 percent of the world's population. We have a report by Robert Lyman called When Giants Arise. And when you realize, you know, all these developing nations like China, India, Brazil, Nigeria and other places in Africa, these countries demand huge amounts of energy.
00:27:57.020 They want the same kind of status and living circumstances that we have.
00:28:02.580 And they don't care about the Paris Accord.
00:28:04.940 They see it as a way of, you know, really I think our competitor nations see the Paris Accord as the perfect way to launch a green trade war against us. 0.94
00:28:15.400 By claiming that if we Canadians shut down our oil and gas, we will be saving the planet.
00:28:21.460 In the meantime, they don't care.
00:28:24.600 They'll just do whatever is best for their people.
00:28:27.020 So, you know, it's ironic to think that places that we might call dictatorships actually have governments that care more about their people than our government does.
00:28:37.120 Well, yeah, I mean, it's hypocritical and it's heartless.
00:28:39.700 I'm going to rant about McKinsey a little bit after this segment as well.
00:28:42.660 I have them on deck because it's been coming to light.
00:28:44.880 Just there's some pretty questionable dollars have been going towards that organization from our pocket.
00:28:50.120 And as you said, and then the outcomes you get are that torqued sort of ideological crap that they advise and saying with these green jobs. 0.60
00:28:57.160 Another area they talk about is these tech.
00:28:59.520 And they just say tech is some broad, overwhelming thing.
00:29:01.940 We'll just get everybody into tech.
00:29:03.400 You'll all learn to code and you'll work making video games or something or for Amazon.
00:29:07.900 But again, when we're looking, all of the tech sector are shedding jobs right now.
00:29:12.940 Twitter laid off thousands.
00:29:14.320 Amazon's laying off thousands.
00:29:15.700 All of the heavyweights out there, Shopify even, are cutting their staff dramatically.
00:29:21.880 Why on earth would we be telling people, leave this booming industry that's paying you well, that has lots of world demand and will for decades, and jump into this sector that'll pay you half as much if you can find a job because they're laying everybody off right now?
00:29:35.240 It's ludicrous.
00:29:36.440 Right.
00:29:37.140 And I mean, I think people have to put two and two together here on big tech.
00:29:41.700 Like McKinsey and the UNPRI have promoted high tech as clean, as if it doesn't have a carbon footprint at all.
00:29:54.240 And you hear Apple saying, oh, you know, we're 100% renewable.
00:29:57.800 Google is 100% renewable.
00:29:59.820 Well, guess what?
00:30:00.520 These guys have just been buying renewable energy credits to make themselves look as if they're running on renewables.
00:30:07.800 These are huge, huge energy consumers.
00:30:10.340 So just imagine you've been telling the public and investors, you've been playing your ESG game now for decades.
00:30:18.260 You've been pretending that you're clean tech and that you have no carbon footprint.
00:30:22.520 And all of a sudden, energy prices in the world skyrocket and your operation is in the dumper because you're not making money anymore.
00:30:32.040 It used to look like, hey, you know, we're providing this virtual material to the world, so it has no carbon footprint.
00:30:42.620 Well, in the back, it has a really big one, and now you have to pay double, triple, whatever for it.
00:30:48.680 And the renewable credits market isn't going to do you any good, because those are real costs.
00:30:55.500 Anyway, yeah, and again, it's McKinsey that worked with Climate Works Foundation in the
00:31:01.760 States to put together the Design to Win plan, and many of those people are the funders of the
00:31:07.480 Tar Sands campaign against Alberta. So their objective was to push clean tech. They want to
00:31:14.380 create, they actually want to create a sea change in the global economy, create two cap and trade
00:31:20.200 systems worldwide and ultimately the goal is for every person to have a personal carbon ration
00:31:28.040 and so you know how does that all relate back to the just transition well i'm not too sure but
00:31:36.200 if you have a personal carbon ration then i guess you know everyone can get climate money
00:31:42.760 on your universal basic income and you know these are all the factors that are playing into this
00:31:49.800 just transition and it might even be nationalizing the energy sector that's what i think it probably
00:31:55.320 will be well yeah that's my fear as well i mean we're gonna you know we're being dealing with
00:32:01.480 ideology rather than reality unfortunately and they seems when their ideology can't come to pass
00:32:06.760 then they go into trying to force it to happen just like they've been telling us for decades
00:32:10.920 that everybody's going to get into electric vehicles everybody's going to move on to electric
00:32:13.720 vehicles well here we are after decades and billions of dollars of subsidies and pushing
00:32:17.960 and flogging and still only 5% of the population at best is getting these electric vehicles. So
00:32:23.260 what do they say now? Well, we're going to illegalize the combustion engine by 2035. So
00:32:27.440 you'd better get into those things. They don't care that we won't have the infrastructure. They
00:32:31.600 don't care that it'll decimate the economy. They just think they've got to force this to happen
00:32:36.700 somehow, putting a cart before the horse and it's going to cause catastrophic damage to our economy.
00:32:42.240 Yes, it will. And the big problems there, again, with this concept of transitioning
00:32:47.040 is that there's not enough power generation in Canada.
00:32:50.720 We'd need 10,000 more megawatts.
00:32:53.060 And it takes eight to, no, it takes,
00:32:57.080 so that would be eight sightsee dam equivalents.
00:33:00.200 And it takes about 20 to 30 years to build one of those dams.
00:33:05.240 And there aren't very many dam locations left in Canada
00:33:08.800 that would be suitable,
00:33:10.100 not to mention all the environmentalists would block it.
00:33:12.720 But the other thing is there's no material supply chain for this.
00:33:17.180 There's a great report by Simon Michaud.
00:33:21.580 He did the work for the Finnish Geological Society, I think.
00:33:27.000 And there's a good video online with him explaining.
00:33:33.220 But Robert Lyman also did a short summary for us on our website called The Pursuit of the Impossible.
00:33:39.160 And really, it would take decades, sometimes hundreds or thousands of years to mine sufficient minerals, critical minerals, for all these fancy utopian green plants.
00:33:55.040 We're talking hundreds of years, billions, quadrillions of dollars.
00:34:00.280 It's not going to happen.
00:34:02.400 So, you know, we're really being led astray.
00:34:05.260 I don't know if it's malfeasance, misfeasance, or just plain stupidity, but we're going down a path
00:34:13.820 of deep, deep destruction. Well, I wonder, do you think maybe at any point, some of the larger
00:34:19.980 developing nations, the ones that really do have that increased demand are going to start speaking
00:34:23.820 up like the vain selfishness of doing this transition when we have developing nations
00:34:29.660 that desperately need affordable, reliable energy, and they're using some very non-environmentally
00:34:35.020 friendly forms of generating energy because they have to. And if we would export our clean energy
00:34:40.860 to them, it would actually be better for the environment overall. And of course, better for
00:34:44.140 their prosperity. They must see that when, when we have a prime minister who says there's no
00:34:48.020 business case for exporting natural gas, bizarrely, you know, and that's just to Germany. But I mean,
00:34:52.660 I'm certain India, China, a lot of those nations down there that are really growing in leaps and
00:34:57.300 bounds would happily take on some of these clean energies we could provide. Maybe they'll put some
00:35:02.340 pressure on? I don't know, because the, you know, price, I think, is really the objective for these
00:35:09.520 countries. Like people say, oh, you know, let's ship our natural gas to China and India, and then
00:35:14.100 we'll solve the air pollution problems there. Oh, natural gas is a very complicated system. LNG is
00:35:22.000 very complicated compared to coal. You know, coal, you just dig it from the ground, you can dump it
00:35:28.400 on the ground you know you don't need a high pressurized system for it i mean obviously there
00:35:33.560 are now very good coal plants heli plants where they're high efficiency low emissions and all
00:35:39.420 coal plants pretty much use pulverized coal now so it burns very clean um but in those poorer
00:35:46.320 countries coal is always going to be the first option because it's very affordable it's abundant
00:35:50.840 You don't need, you know, very high skilled, highly skilled people to manage most of it.
00:35:58.400 So price point will be a factor.
00:36:01.800 But obviously, there are other mid-range countries that would certainly buy from us if we could just get it to market.
00:36:08.640 So, again, think of the green trade war people.
00:36:11.600 Think of who out there does not want our product on the market and think of why.
00:36:18.120 And it can also be an east-west division in Canada, I'm sorry to say, but there are interests
00:36:23.560 down east who are invested in other energy sectors overseas. Why would they want the west
00:36:30.760 to compete with them? Well, absolutely. And then, of course, OPEC nations, they do like having a
00:36:36.520 strong control over energy prices. And the way they do that is by strangling supply and they
00:36:41.500 strangle their own output. But if they can, of course, even better for them, if they can slow
00:36:46.760 the output in other nations, it's all the more profit for them as they keep the oil prices and
00:36:52.260 gas prices artificially high. And you have to look at their interest in that. And that gets back to
00:36:56.860 a part of where a lot of these ENGOs get funded. But I don't know if there's ever any interest in
00:37:02.600 pursuing or exposing that. I mean, Alberta talked about it and we did our big report and just kind
00:37:06.480 of fell by the wayside. Yeah, well, there needs to be more done with the findings of the Alberta
00:37:11.520 inquiry um because it's very obvious in europe and we have excuse me we have a blog post about this
00:37:18.880 from uh drew godafridi who's a belgian philosopher and jurist um and he writes about how russia
00:37:26.080 funded the environmental groups in europe to push germany especially to buy gas from russia
00:37:34.480 and so germany has been funding the war against ukraine put it very bluntly that's what's been
00:37:42.560 happening um and because russia funded these environmental groups and there's quite a bit
00:37:48.480 of evidence that similar things have happened here in canada so um i don't have the specific
00:37:56.000 details of that but there are some reports out there so again you know it's a green trade war
00:38:01.280 against Alberta. And the sooner we take off the blinkers, you know, and stop talking about climate
00:38:08.400 change, the Paris Agreement is not a legally binding document. Robert Lyman has many articles
00:38:14.300 on this. And, you know, we shouldn't play ball because we're only 1.6% of the world's emissions
00:38:24.320 in Canada, all of Canada, and even the parliamentary budget officer recently
00:38:29.360 issued a report showing that there would be no change in global climate change even if we met
00:38:36.320 our targets, and even if we did nothing, there would be no damage to our economy. That's always
00:38:43.840 the reason they say, oh, well, down the road, you know, climate change is going to disastrously
00:38:47.640 affect the economy. This is not true. It would be better if we were spending all these billions
00:38:53.520 of dollars on preparing and adapting you know upgrading the dike system out in the fraser valley
00:39:00.560 you know preparing calgary for the next potential flood because there probably will be one
00:39:06.720 these are all things that we can do with this money that are real adaptative things that will
00:39:11.520 help people and give people real jobs rather than all this make-believe unicorn utopia yeah well in
00:39:20.320 the just transition whatever it might turn out to be I mean Trudeau has stated that that's going to
00:39:24.400 be the priority of 2023 starting off the year and he's certainly taking quite an aggressive stance
00:39:29.040 with Alberta already so I got a feeling we're going to be hearing a heck of a lot more about
00:39:32.480 it as to whatever it might develop into so I appreciate your speaking up and helping to define
00:39:37.360 that and keeping with it before I let you go so where can people find more information about
00:39:41.760 Friends of Science and the work you guys do? Well we're on YouTube we have a very funny little video
00:39:48.240 about climate injustice for all which is our report that we did about the just transition
00:39:53.520 and it features me sitting in the middle of a field in a chair and that's how the uh just
00:39:59.520 transition looks like it'll go a chair in the middle of a field pretending to be a house
00:40:05.200 we're also at friendsofscience.org our website we're on twitter uh friends of science on twitter
00:40:13.680 and facebook linkedin instagram so we hope that people will engage with us and it is our 20th
00:40:20.480 year of operation we have been asking people if they would just donate 20 or if you like maybe
00:40:26.960 take out a membership you can do that on our website and um we're going to have a live event
00:40:32.720 this year so that's in the works it's probably going to be sometime in may so i hope people
00:40:38.560 will be able to attend for our buffet dinner and two speakers great well we'll be watching
00:40:43.840 for that well thanks again for for coming on to join us today michelle it's always good to have
00:40:47.920 a talk with you and just get a nice dose of some good common sense and i really appreciate the work
00:40:51.920 that you guys do out there so uh keep at it and and i'm certain we'll talk again sometime soon
00:40:58.160 okay thanks corey have a great trip great thank you so yes miss michelle sterling of friends of
00:41:04.800 of Science. And as I said, it's always great to get her on just to clarify a lot of things. I mean,
00:41:09.400 what's going on right now trying to define, I mean, that just transition. And as I said,
00:41:14.520 if you go to the Friends of Science and you'll find it there, but the legislation itself still
00:41:18.820 hasn't been fleshed out. So who knows, it could amount to a number of things, but we can certainly
00:41:23.040 see a battle on the horizon. And the biggest thing is, as Michelle mentioned briefly too,
00:41:26.860 is I fear as well, they're going to move towards nationalizing Alberta's and the West in general's
00:41:32.200 energy. We've got to remember when things become a crisis, it's not Alberta's oil anymore. It's
00:41:36.040 Canada's oil. And, uh, you know, when oil is $10 a barrel, well then it's Alberta's oil and you
00:41:40.900 guys, you know, now it's a mess that you should shut down. Uh, we've seen it time and time again,
00:41:44.660 and I don't see why we won't see it happen yet again. Uh, just for one of the commenters, I see
00:41:48.680 Kim Holmes saying, uh, why does no one specify the oil stands are a huge cleanup measure, uh,
00:41:52.740 saying, you know, grandfather spent time up there on Fort Mac and treats were stunted.
00:41:56.340 There were health issues before. Uh, yeah, you know, I don't know how bad necessarily it was,
00:42:01.100 but it is a surface deposit of petrochemicals that are in there. And it has always leached
00:42:05.800 into the water bodies to a degree up there. Now I know we can't pretend the motivation of the
00:42:10.080 companies up there is to clean the area up. It just happens to be perhaps a side effect when
00:42:13.760 you're taking the bitumen out of the sand and replacing it with clean sand, that it tends to
00:42:18.200 be better in the end. But a lot of the stuff that, you know, energy companies are getting blamed for
00:42:22.000 up there is actually pollutants, I guess you could say natural pollutants that have been happening
00:42:25.980 up there for millions of years already. It really didn't have anything to do with us.
00:42:29.680 But again, common sense doesn't seem to have a lot to do with a lot of these discussions.
00:42:35.360 So let's see what else we got on the go here.
00:42:38.280 I wanted to mention, yeah, so McKinsey, as Michelle mentioned as well.
00:42:41.820 So they're a consulting company.
00:42:43.020 They're an international one.
00:42:43.860 They're huge.
00:42:44.280 And, you know, it's one of those names that just keeps popping up all over the place.
00:42:47.900 And I tell you what, we can't blame this all on Trudeau.
00:42:50.180 These guys show up as consultants all over the place.
00:42:52.220 The province of Alberta gave those guys a contract for a few million bucks on post-secondary education report.
00:42:58.800 or something like that they were putting together.
00:43:00.680 But it has come to light, I guess,
00:43:03.160 that Stephen Harper, when he was in over seven years in power
00:43:07.040 and spent something in the neighborhood,
00:43:10.180 I think of $6 million or less in contracts to McKinsey,
00:43:13.640 which is a pretty healthy contract
00:43:14.600 if you've got a small company or something.
00:43:16.300 But since Trudeau got in in his short time,
00:43:19.700 yeah, I think it was nine years with Harper
00:43:21.100 and then seven years with Trudeau.
00:43:22.740 Either way, the Liberal government,
00:43:24.440 uh, since 2018 has paid $73 million to this McKinsey. And McKinsey is putting out these
00:43:34.060 reports talking about these transitions. I mean, it's bad enough that we're giving this soul sort
00:43:38.820 of stuff to these consultants. And you got to wonder how much money do you really need
00:43:43.960 to get these things? And then they give us this, this God awful advice at the end of it and
00:43:50.060 everything. So Pure Poly has been making a lot of noise about that. It's kind of getting exposed,
00:43:55.380 I guess, right now that people are realizing, wow, that's some pretty healthy contracts to
00:43:59.900 a single company there. And yeah, there was all sorts of government branches that were given
00:44:05.800 23 separate contracts for different things from the border agency, Canada Post, Export Development
00:44:12.540 Canada, Canadian Tourism, millions and millions of dollars to this company. And this is stuff we're
00:44:17.320 getting. Now, I'll go back a little bit to energy here, because, you know, it's kind of the subject
00:44:22.520 of the day anyways here going on. And a poll that came out, I don't know if it was Leger or one of
00:44:28.080 the others. I just said that today, though, with Canadian support for expanding nuclear power
00:44:32.920 generation. See, this shows that there's, I'm going to give you these numbers, and it'll show
00:44:36.780 how delusional the citizens of this company, this company, this country are when it comes to things,
00:44:42.060 Because the parallel between people who oppose development of nuclear energy with people who are pushing for all of us to embrace electric cars is quite striking.
00:44:53.340 So, I mean, number one, you know, province by province for people who support expanding nuclear power generation, which is green.
00:45:00.100 And Saskatchewan's got loads of uranium.
00:45:01.740 We can do these things.
00:45:03.080 Well, Saskatchewan's 57%.
00:45:04.600 Alberta's 53%.
00:45:06.440 And it drops in Ontario to 52%.
00:45:09.060 Now we get to New Brunswick, 40%.
00:45:11.640 Manitoba, 25%, BC, 24%, Nova Scotia, 24%, Newfoundland, 3%, only 3%.
00:45:18.280 Quebec, they have negative 25%.
00:45:20.940 They don't just not support expanding it.
00:45:24.000 They are wholeheartedly in opposition to it.
00:45:27.700 So these provinces, all the same provinces that strongly support this big green transition
00:45:33.520 away from carbon-based energies, also are completely opposed to the nuclear we would
00:45:40.200 need to use to replace it. Which one's it going to be, you guys? They just don't think it through.
00:45:47.200 Think farther. You want to get rid of oil and gas. Okay, good for you. You're a genius. You're
00:45:51.640 brilliant. You're going to save the world. You've got to come up with the alternative. And we don't
00:45:55.880 have one. The closest we've got, maybe, and it's terribly expensive, and it takes a while to get
00:46:01.140 going, is nuclear. But you clowns oppose that too. There's no herds of unicorns galloping across
00:46:07.420 the prairies to make this power. Michelle talked about it too. Hydroelectric. You notice too,
00:46:11.820 there's no coincidence why Newfoundland and Quebec are so strongly opposed to this. They're also
00:46:15.160 making a fortune selling hydroelectric power. They don't want competitors. They don't need it.
00:46:20.080 They're selling all the power they can. We can't, what are we going to dam? Which giant rivers in
00:46:25.240 Saskatchewan and Alberta can we dam up to create the hydroelectric power grid that we would need?
00:46:31.060 or the wind and solar. Come on, Alberta has been putting billions into it for years.
00:46:36.700 At best, it's a supplemental novelty. There's that fantastic Twitter account. Again, I got to
00:46:42.700 keep that account on hand that shows the breakdown of the amount of solar and wind being used at any
00:46:48.740 given time, the percentage of energy is generating. And typically solar in wintertime, you're looking
00:46:53.300 at like 0.1% of Alberta's needs, even though we've been putting billions into it. There's a huge solar
00:46:59.060 project going in out by Vulcan. You go towards the Little Bowl Park, holy cow, you're driving,
00:47:03.120 you just see those panels going and going and going. For what? For what? Yet, like I said,
00:47:10.900 the regional imbalance, the problems, and you know, Michelle kind of, she likes to talk broadly,
00:47:15.860 I'm the regionalist around here, and that's fine, I'll say it. It's an east versus west thing.
00:47:19.720 Look at the polling numbers again. They oppose our current generation systems, and they oppose
00:47:24.160 any alternatives we would pursue. Guys, this isn't, you know, speaking of sustainability,
00:47:28.940 a word that gets tossed around and abused a lot. Their approach is not sustainable.
00:47:35.660 We will freeze in the dark. And that would be a beautiful irony, wouldn't it? Alberta freezing in
00:47:40.440 the dark while we sit on some of the most generous resource deposits in the world. Not just Alberta,
00:47:45.420 Saskatchewan, British Columbia. I shouldn't neglect mentioning them. They've got fantastic resource
00:47:49.380 deposits. Quebec has a huge natural gas deposit, by the way. Not enough people talk about that.
00:47:53.860 they shut it down. They won't allow any development on it. You know, those parasites,
00:48:00.960 and they are, if you're going to sit on a tremendous resource and refuse to develop it
00:48:05.560 while sucking in billions a year in equalization from the other provinces that are developing and
00:48:10.280 selling their resources, don't get upset when I call you a parasite because that's what you're 0.83
00:48:15.520 being. And that's part of the problem. That's part of the problem with equalization. That's
00:48:18.880 part of the problem with universal basic income systems. When you give them money to do nothing,
00:48:22.980 then guess what they're going to continue to do? Nothing. If they developed their natural gas in
00:48:28.560 Quebec, guess what? Well, suddenly they got non-renewable resource revenue and it'll come
00:48:32.520 up, take a bite out of their bloody equalization. So of course they don't want to develop it.
00:48:38.460 They're hypocrites. And again, it leads to higher energy prices. It leads to the regional fighting.
00:48:45.400 It leads to the imbalances. So we got to call it out more. Got to call it out. And it is regional.
00:48:52.620 And yeah, before I get on,
00:48:55.100 we'll talk to Jim in a moment
00:48:57.180 about the agricultural report.
00:48:58.440 One other thing I want to note,
00:48:59.260 it's kind of interesting.
00:49:01.100 The NDP, I guess they got sued and settled.
00:49:05.800 They were talking about,
00:49:07.260 they accused a lawyer of making
00:49:08.440 an Enron secret backroom deal in 2000
00:49:11.660 over the PPA.
00:49:13.500 So this is a complex thing and everything else.
00:49:14.980 The bottom line is it's settled.
00:49:17.360 So the lawyer who sued the NDP,
00:49:19.440 sued the NDP government
00:49:20.360 for their statements at that time.
00:49:21.820 He basically won. Now at this point, one of the settlements of the ways these things work is you can't talk about what the settlement is. So he's already said, I can't talk any further about it. But I assure you, the NDP didn't win. When it settled like that, it means he took his check, signed off, say he's not going to talk about it anymore, and it's finished.
00:49:36.500 again I mean you got to think of things like that with that Ninchy when he slandered business 1.00
00:49:41.900 owners and so on and he settles I mean some people say Ninchy didn't lose that lawsuit
00:49:46.360 sure he did he had to give out a sniveling apology and he had to pay for his own legal
00:49:53.400 bills well or at least fundraise to do it which was hundreds of thousands of dollars guys that's
00:49:58.900 not winning you got a pretty twisted view of what winning is if that's what you think but it's good
00:50:03.640 to see, I guess, some civil victories in courts because when governments and political leaders
00:50:08.820 like Nenshi or Notley play political football and ruin the character of prominent business people
00:50:14.520 like this and lawyers like this for their own political gain, they should pay a bloody price
00:50:18.540 for it. Because that's what happened in both cases. Nenshi went after Cal Wenzel and attacked
00:50:23.480 his character because Nenshi wanted to score political points and he thankfully got stung
00:50:27.480 on his ass for it. And likewise, the NDP, even though it took a few years to catch up to them,
00:50:31.940 it did catch up to them. So I just want to remind folks and rub that in a little guys.
00:50:35.860 Sometimes there can be a little bit of accountability. It's never enough and it
00:50:39.220 always comes too late, but it's still better than nothing. All right. Let's change the
00:50:43.520 channel a little bit and get on with our check-in with Jim Busicum of Marketplace Commodities and
00:50:48.880 see what's happening out there in the ag commodity world. Hey Jim, how's it going?
00:50:53.100 Hey, good Corey. How are you doing today?
00:50:54.840 Pretty good. Got a good rant on. Always, you know, good for the soul for me anyway.
00:50:58.820 Yeah, it's good for a lot of us, I think. So that's good.
00:51:01.940 you bet. So we're a couple of weeks into the new year. You know, how are the commodity markets
00:51:09.740 shaping up? Well, actually, I would say we've got a small, you know, let's call it a short-term
00:51:15.300 trend right now. We'll see short-term downtrend right now. We'll see if it develops into a
00:51:20.480 longer-term downtrend, but to run through some of the major commodities, canola has moved from
00:51:26.480 81 per metric down 10 to 831 right now barley 455 down to 430 wheat trading at around 12
00:51:35.600 dollars a bushel to start here now down to 11.50 per bushel corn market 460 to start the year
00:51:42.640 now down to about 435 we especially uh on barley compared to corn that's what's really driving the
00:51:49.440 barley market lower as uh in the feed market livestock feeders they consider corn and barley
00:51:55.760 roughly about the same price. So barley's reluctantly moving lower into the same level
00:52:01.840 of what U.S. corn mines in months. So I guess some of the pressure is coming, you got world
00:52:07.200 events that are a little more abstract coming, like Russia, Ukraine. Ironically, while they're
00:52:13.440 in the midst of all that conflict, they've still got some very seriously heavy crops coming up.
00:52:18.000 Yeah, Russia essentially had a bumper crop in 2022, had very good yields. I'm not exactly sure
00:52:24.800 on ukraine i think the information isn't quite as good coming out of there now they're behind on
00:52:30.880 their shipping into their export markets because of course of what's going on but from what we
00:52:36.640 understand is shipping companies steamship lines are have a difficulty well they're able to get
00:52:44.000 insured to go into russian ports but it's costing more which is largely being absorbed by a lower
00:52:49.520 fall praise out of russia so they're still shipping the product is still going from russian
00:52:54.720 port to end users which directly competes with well really with canada with everywhere else in
00:53:00.480 the world it's it's a large uh both countries produce large amounts of the same colonies that
00:53:07.040 we do so in the world market we're competing with that you know and then if you know if we want to
00:53:12.400 look at another area the southern hemisphere is where there's you know some significant uh crops
00:53:18.480 being just starting to be harvested right now that's argentina and brazil argentina was on the
00:53:24.080 dry side which has supported uh corn and bean market to some extent brazil's looking really
00:53:31.440 good though looks like they're going to have bumper crops they're still being altered geopolitical
00:53:35.840 issues as well i almost forgot they had an election but uh you don't really see too much
00:53:40.240 of it in the mainstream media but uh anyway they're still contesting that and leading to issues
00:53:47.520 but trucking and parts and road closures, et cetera, et cetera.
00:53:51.440 Yeah. Well, it's easy to forget that, you know, Brazil and Argentina, I mean,
00:53:54.880 those are huge agricultural producers, beef and a number of other commodities. So, I mean,
00:54:00.720 we don't pay enough attention to them, but they make an impact to most of us over on the side
00:54:04.560 of the hemisphere, I guess. Yeah. So the way it's going in 2023 is we're starting off with actually
00:54:13.520 fairly decent supplies on most of these commodities all around the world, including Canada.
00:54:18.560 The Northern Hemisphere will be going into a new production cycle starting about March, April.
00:54:24.800 Further south, you work your way back up into Canada, which we would consider the north,
00:54:30.320 and we'll see what that entails once we get into the springtime as far as production goes.
00:54:37.120 Great. Well, always lots to watch and fluid markets going on as with everything.
00:54:42.960 Anything else you'd like to add before I let you go today, Jim?
00:54:46.420 No, that's it, Corey.
00:54:47.520 Thank you for your time and appreciate it.
00:54:50.280 Great.
00:54:50.580 Good talking to you.
00:54:51.420 We'll talk to you again soon.
00:54:53.660 All right.
00:54:54.240 So that's that reminder, everybody.
00:54:55.440 Yes.
00:54:55.720 And that's Jim Buzicum with Market Commodities.
00:54:58.360 And you can get to them at marketcommodities.com or if you're listening in, 403-394-1711.
00:55:05.200 You know, it's important.
00:55:06.000 If you're in the ag business, you need to know what's going on out there so you can
00:55:10.240 maximize your business.
00:55:11.880 all right so uh what was that uh uh yeah tammy day bringing up the weather uh brian had watched
00:55:20.560 the grand tour when the electric car crashed it was serious wreckage to burn for a long time
00:55:24.360 yeah i don't know if anybody watches that show uh it's quite funny it's it's uh jeremy clarkson
00:55:30.280 and some of the others and i think it was in uh czechoslovakia or something it was an electric
00:55:34.480 vehicle but it was a sports one like very very high uh high tech and high end i mean those things
00:55:39.760 can really move fast and he went off the road and flipped and he got terribly injured but he did
00:55:45.760 survive but yeah that thing just kept burning and burning the batteries again there's a lot
00:55:49.680 of challenges to come uh with these evs yet i mean i'm not wholly opposed to them i'm not
00:55:55.040 look if somebody comes up with the technology that you can have an affordable reliable electric
00:56:02.400 vehicle and our electric grid can handle it and it can go with the ranges and all those things
00:56:07.760 I'll buy one. When it gets better and becomes worthwhile, I switch. I've got two drills at
00:56:15.000 home. I got the battery-powered one, and I got one I plug into my wall. I can't remember the
00:56:18.740 last time I used the one I plug into the wall because the battery-powered drills have gotten
00:56:23.000 that good. But I didn't need some ding-dong from the government to ban me from using a plug-in drill
00:56:28.300 to drive me to the battery-powered drill. The thing that got me there was it became better.
00:56:34.640 It was a better product.
00:56:35.980 The old battery-driven drills from 30 years ago, they would take forever to charge.
00:56:40.280 The batteries wouldn't last terribly long.
00:56:42.660 They'd wear out and wouldn't be any good.
00:56:44.120 They wouldn't be powerful enough.
00:56:45.260 That's changed.
00:56:46.140 You know, you see battery-powered sawzalls and all sorts of things.
00:56:49.840 Things might change.
00:56:51.100 I think they will change, but we can't rush them.
00:56:54.160 We got to wait until the technology gets good enough.
00:56:56.620 As Nico brought that up, you have the electric car rebate.
00:56:58.680 The rebate program is 150% over budget.
00:57:01.880 this is where the government is basically paying people to buy these stinking electric vehicles
00:57:07.400 because they're so bloody expensive they're saying that's the way to get people into it and as i said
00:57:10.680 when i was talking to michelle they aren't getting into them we're still looking at five percent
00:57:14.240 and uh you know but we're spending a fortune 150 percent over budget guys and it's not working
00:57:23.100 that's the big thing it's not working those are three quarters of a billion dollars in these
00:57:28.700 rebates given to people. Subsidies is what it's called. Quit getting around. People are struggling.
00:57:33.140 How many people with young families and that are driving the old beater to try and get to the store 0.78
00:57:37.060 and back and get their kids to school and do all that stuff, trying to make the bills. Meanwhile,
00:57:40.980 you're giving rich people 5,000 bucks to get into a $90,000 Tesla. Yeah, that's social justice
00:57:46.180 indeed. Good work, Justin. Thanks. I know. Justin just thinks the chauffeur can take you.
00:57:52.120 If you need different groceries, get your chef to pick them out. Justin doesn't quite understand
00:57:56.800 of the real world. Unfortunately, he does impact and control our real world. And it's causing us
00:58:03.080 a lot of problems. On a bright note, I'll kind of wrap up. I see Saskatchewan is auctioning off
00:58:09.480 liquor licenses February 6th from they're closing the government owned liquor stores. It's been going
00:58:14.180 for a long time. Saskatchewan has a lot of crown corporations. They had the NDP in for quite a while
00:58:18.100 over there. And one of the no brainers is privatizing liquor stores. The government doesn't
00:58:23.260 need to be in the business of running liquor stores and I tell you what guys in Saskatchewan
00:58:27.560 I know we got a lot of viewers and readers from out there it's great I mean Alberta Klein
00:58:32.500 privatized them decades ago and it's great I don't drink anymore but all the same you've got
00:58:37.220 access you know seven days a week late in the evenings the variety is incredible
00:58:43.480 the cost competitiveness I mean it's still expensive for liquor but you know compared
00:58:48.900 to how it used to be when there was only a small amount of boozes you could get and they'd be warm
00:58:52.900 and they'd be going on strike every couple of weeks
00:58:54.600 and there was only limited branches.
00:58:56.340 Ah, sucked. 0.95
00:58:58.060 Saskatchewan, good on you.
00:58:59.520 Looking forward to those auctions.
00:59:00.500 You're going to get some good creative business people
00:59:02.060 getting into that and you will enjoy it.
00:59:04.660 You will not want to turn back.
00:59:06.940 Lori Carter saying liquor in pot stores in every quarter.
00:59:09.260 Yeah, that's true.
00:59:10.020 You know, and they're all over the place.
00:59:11.200 I don't smoke pot either.
00:59:12.340 Stuff makes me sick.
00:59:13.300 Always made me puke.
00:59:14.080 But I got nothing against the people who want to smoke it,
00:59:15.700 you know, as long as they're doing anything dangerous
00:59:17.340 or operating equipment, that sort of thing.
00:59:18.980 But there's too many pot shops,
00:59:21.180 but you're starting to see them close.
00:59:22.260 You know, the market is catching up.
00:59:25.060 There were too many of them.
00:59:26.080 They flooded the market.
00:59:27.480 And now the stronger are surviving
00:59:29.380 and some of the others are going to the wayside.
00:59:32.280 All right, I'm going to wrap things up.
00:59:33.640 So as I've said to you guys at the start of the show,
00:59:35.480 I am going to disappear for two weeks.
00:59:37.340 Jane and I are going to pop down to Arizona,
00:59:40.020 get some sun, get some desert time,
00:59:42.640 just get some quiet time.
00:59:44.280 It's going to be nice, a nice breather,
00:59:46.060 you know, from the weather, from Canadian news,
00:59:48.440 though, you know, I'll still be watching.
00:59:49.760 I am going to throw up a couple of audio podcasts
00:59:52.260 because I'll still have to rant while I'm down there.
00:59:53.800 So go to the Western Standard podcast site.
00:59:55.920 You know, they're on Podbean.
00:59:56.760 You can search it out and you'll get those.
00:59:59.620 And of course, I will be back
01:00:01.200 and we'll be producing more shows.
01:00:02.520 There's lots of other content out there.
01:00:04.260 Melanie Grisden's always putting out great stuff.
01:00:06.400 David Creighton's show has just been fantastic.
01:00:08.840 So tune into that stuff and I will see you all,
01:00:12.520 well, I guess three weeks from now on the next show.
01:00:14.580 Thanks guys.
01:00:19.440 Thank you.