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00:07:19.940 Yeah, here I am, Corey. 0.94

00:07:23.940 It sucks, it's cold, it's cold, it's snowy, I don't like it. 0.90

00:07:25.940 It's going to get worse going down to like minus 17 and lots, lots more snow. So, but always remember, we always get more snow in March than any other month. 0.96

00:07:35.160 Well, I guess if it moisturizes the ground, I'd still rather have rain than this bloody snow, but I don't have to shovel rain.

00:07:42.160 Yep, very true. And the hives are looking good?

00:07:44.760 They were last weekend. Hopefully they bundled up for this next week and they're ready to get back in action next week.

00:07:51.460 Awesome. Looking forward to the honey delivery.

00:07:53.460 Yeah.

00:07:54.460 Yeah, a bit of a crazy morning here, Corey, with all sorts of political stuff going on.

00:07:59.460 Leading the website right now is a story that will not surprise really anybody in the least.

00:08:05.460 The federal government have found three more contractors, they say, has committed fraud, basically, double timing and false work and stuff like that.

00:08:16.460 So, they've referred those three contract cases to the RCMP.

00:08:21.460 So, who would have guessed it, Corey?

00:08:24.460 Pierre Polyev, leader of the opposition, held a caucus meeting this morning where he announced the Tory motion on cutting the gas tax for April 1st will be a non-confidence motion, an economic motion.

00:08:40.460 So, that means if the Liberals lose, the government falls and we're into an election.

00:08:46.460 Chances of that pretty slim.

00:08:49.460 Obviously, the NDP not really ready for an election will side with the Liberals and but puts Polyev on good ground because he can now lay the feet of the affordability crisis directly on the NDP Liberal coalition.

00:09:05.460 We got some interesting video, Corey, of a couple of women. 1.00

00:09:10.460 We decided to call them middle-aged.

00:09:11.460 Some people in the newsroom wanted to call them grannies, raging grannies. 1.00

00:09:16.460 But they were filmed vandalizing a Recall Gondek sign.

00:09:20.460 Some video yesterday, and they seem nonplussed at the fact that they were being videoed and are easily identified.

00:09:28.460 They changed the sign to respect Gondek instead of Recall Gondek.

00:09:34.460 The police were called and we do have a picture of the police on scene.

00:09:38.460 They say they're investigating and they'll let us know what happens out of that.

00:09:43.460 And there's a Liberal MP called House Feather, a Jewish chap, I believe, who was disgusted at the vote over the NDP motion on the Palestinian stuff on the other night.

00:09:56.460 He says he might consider leaving the Liberal Party.

00:09:59.460 But, you know, today he showed his colors and said he's going to support the government on the GST motion.

00:10:04.460 So I don't really see him going anywhere.

00:10:07.460 So he hasn't left by now.

00:10:09.460 He's not going to.

00:10:10.460 He's not going to.

00:10:11.460 Corey, if you could commit me or permit me a personal moment here.

00:10:16.460 It's a big day coming up tomorrow in my family.

00:10:19.460 In 1964, a small church in Sheffield, Velia Cook became Velia Naylor when she married my dad.

00:10:28.460 And they didn't really have a reception or a first dance.

00:10:34.460 They wanted to get to Paris as quickly as they could on their honeymoon.

00:10:38.460 So off they went.

00:10:40.460 Two years later, the handsomest baby boy in the world came around.

00:10:44.460 That's me, not him, that Nico is showing on the thing.

00:10:49.460 My sister came two years later.

00:10:51.460 They immigrated to Canada.

00:10:52.460 And the rest is history.

00:10:54.460 So Mike and Velia Naylor have had two kids, five grandchildren, and now their first great-grandchild.

00:11:04.460 So tomorrow is their 60th wedding anniversary.

00:11:07.460 Corey, really an incredible achievement.

00:11:09.460 I just want to say congratulations, Mom and Dad.

00:11:12.460 Love you very much.

00:11:13.460 Right on, yes.

00:11:14.460 Congratulations, Mike and Velia.

00:11:16.460 That 60 years, that's quite an accomplishment.

00:11:18.460 I mean, we can even forgive them for having produced you.

00:11:21.460 Oh, ouch, Corey, you hurt my feeling.

00:11:24.460 I've got to throw and get some heat into this office. 0.98

00:11:27.460 It's cold out today.

00:11:28.460 It is.

00:11:29.460 So yeah, happy anniversary, Mom and Dad.

00:11:30.460 It is fantastic.

00:11:31.460 Right on.

00:11:32.460 Well, thanks, Dave.

00:11:33.460 Thank you.

00:11:34.460 See you in a while in the newsroom.

00:11:36.460 So again, yeah, lots breaking, lots going on as Dave laid out.

00:11:40.460 This is what I'd like to remind everybody.

00:11:42.460 The reason we can do this, the reason we can keep Dave employed, myself, and all the rest

00:11:49.460 of us here is because you guys have subscribed.

00:11:51.460 So subscribe, guys, Western Standard Online or westernstandard.news slash subscription.

00:11:57.460 And for $9.99 a month, you can get full access past the paywall, and it helps support us,

00:12:03.460 keeps us independent.

00:12:04.460 We aren't taking tax dollars.

00:12:05.460 We won't take tax dollars.

00:12:07.460 And that way, we answer to you.

00:12:10.460 So if you've subscribed already, thank you very much, guys.

00:12:13.460 And if you haven't yet, come on.

00:12:14.460 Get on there and encourage some other people to do it.

00:12:17.460 I mean, come on.

00:12:18.460 The state of legacy media is terrible, and we do need to fix it up.

00:12:22.460 And again, congratulations, Mike and Media.

00:12:24.460 60 years.

00:12:25.460 I mean, really, we don't see enough of that these days of people making it that long.

00:12:29.460 Jane and I got married later in life, so I mean, if we make it to 60, boy, I'm going

00:12:32.460 to be really old by the time we get there.

00:12:34.460 We can hope for the best, but I don't think I'll make that landmark.

00:12:37.460 All right.

00:12:38.460 Let's see.

00:12:39.460 I see.

00:12:40.460 I see.

00:12:41.460 I see.

00:12:42.460 I see.

00:12:43.460 I see Mr. Carpe in the waiting room already, and I sure really do want to have this conversation.

00:12:47.460 So if he's ready to roll, let's pull John in here and have a talk about C63.

00:12:52.460 So this is John Carpe of the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.

00:12:56.460 Hi, John.

00:12:57.460 How are you doing?

00:12:58.460 I'm well, Corey.

00:12:59.460 How are you?

00:13:00.460 Very good.

00:13:01.460 Thanks.

00:13:02.460 Aside from whining about the weather.

00:13:03.460 The farmers need the moisture.

00:13:05.460 I pray for the farmers.

00:13:06.460 Yeah.

00:13:07.460 Look at it.

00:13:08.460 Even the snowfall, apparently one centimeter of snow translates into only one millimeter

00:13:14.460 of rain.

00:13:15.460 So they need lots more moisture to have a good crop this year.

00:13:18.460 Yeah.

00:13:19.460 But I'm still going to complain about it.

00:13:21.460 Okay.

00:13:22.460 It is a good thing.

00:13:23.460 So something else we can certainly complain about though, C63. 0.87

00:13:27.460 Boy, that's a monster that's been dropped on us.

00:13:30.460 I guess kind of try and explain a little about what this bill is and what's behind it.

00:13:35.460 Well, it was introduced in late February.

00:13:38.460 It brings back the powers to the Canadian Human Rights Commission to prosecute people over

00:13:47.460 non-criminal hate speech.

00:13:49.460 And hate is subjective.

00:13:50.460 It's defined subjectively by, you know, whatever, whatever bureaucrats in charge of the prosecution.

00:13:58.460 And it also adds a new section to the Criminal Code of Canada, whereby a person can be ordered

00:14:07.460 to wear an ankle bracelet and observe a curfew and live under house arrest, give up their legally owned,

00:14:15.460 legally acquired firearms, et cetera, based on somebody saying that they fear that that person is going to commit a hate speech crime.

00:14:28.460 And then you would be hauled before a provincial court judge.

00:14:32.460 And if the judge believes that there's reasonable grounds for that fear, again, we're talking about not something you're doing,

00:14:38.460 but a speech crime that you have not even committed, but that you might commit.

00:14:43.460 And if the judge feels that you might commit, violate the criminal code, hate speech provisions,

00:14:50.460 all of those restrictions being put under house arrest, et cetera, can be placed on a person.

00:14:56.460 And if the person doesn't agree with those conditions and abide by them, that person can face up to two years in jail.

00:15:03.460 So this is very Orwellian to have a new provision in the criminal code where you can be punished for a crime that you might commit in future.

00:15:12.460 Well, yeah, I mean, there's a few things we could cover on this bill, and that's probably the most odious of them all.

00:15:18.460 But it just seems so beyond the pale.

00:15:21.460 I mean, I imagine the second if that bill passed as it is and if somebody was, you know, essentially restrained on a potential thought crime,

00:15:32.460 you know, lawyers such as yourself and others would be in there within seconds to challenge that in the courts.

00:15:37.460 I mean, would a judge hold that up?

00:15:39.460 It just seems that they've crossed the line too far for even the most liberal of judges to support.

00:15:43.460 Well, it's the fear factor and the online harms bill if passed or if passed in its current form or even if passed with some of the worst provisions removed,

00:15:54.460 it's going to get most Canadians to self-censor.

00:15:58.460 You and I and a number of other people would probably just continue on our merry way and speak our minds.

00:16:03.460 But for a lot of other people, if the public advocacy is not your full time job, a lot of other Canadians will fear getting even an anonymous complaint is allowed under the Online Harms Act

00:16:16.460 so that you don't have a right to face your accuser or question your accuser or have your lawyer ask questions of your accuser or even know who your accuser is.

00:16:27.460 That's a provision allowing for anonymous complaints.

00:16:30.460 So you can have somebody in Vancouver that sees something online posted by a woman in Nova Scotia who is making some disparaging remarks about a mosque in Toronto.

00:16:41.460 And even if the members of that mosque in Toronto are not offended by the comment, this complaint could go ahead anonymously against this woman in Nova Scotia.

00:16:48.460 And then she's at the mercy of a human rights commission that's going to decide subjectively whether or not she said something hateful.

00:16:58.460 And if convicted, she could be ordered to pay up to $50,000 to the federal government.

00:17:04.460 And in addition to that, pay up to $20,000 to the members of the mosque in Toronto.

00:17:11.460 So these are draconian powers.

00:17:14.460 It's even worse than what we had previously with the Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act.

00:17:24.460 Well, it's good. I was going to bring up Section 13.

00:17:26.460 And yes, it was like the commissions overstepped so grossly, so badly about 10, 15 years ago that, you know, Prime Minister of the time Harper later on was able to get Section 13 out of there, which was just too broad.

00:17:40.460 And people were getting abused by these commissions. I mean, you don't have, as you said, the remedies that you would in a regular courtroom.

00:17:46.460 These things were turning into kangaroo courts. I mean, the former owner of the original Western Standard, Ezra Levant, had published those cartoons in it and was brought before the Human Rights Commission.

00:17:56.460 There's no criminal charges, just these commissions. And this bill looks like it's going to empower these commissions back to where they were and maybe even further so.

00:18:05.460 As you said, it'll be chilling and we should all be very worried.

00:18:08.460 Well, it's important for people to contact their member of parliament.

00:18:13.460 You could argue that it's even more important if your member of parliament is Liberal or NDP because they've got the majority to get this through.

00:18:20.460 But contrary to what some people think, MPs do listen if they get a lot of phone calls and a lot of emails on an issue and they're worried about their reelection.

00:18:30.460 It's going to make for some changes within those two parties because they do have the majority in the House.

00:18:37.460 The other thing we're doing to fight back is we have an online petition, which, as of right now, has just shy of 50,000 signatures.

00:18:46.460 We're going to look for another 50,000 signatures in the weeks ahead, and those will be delivered to the prime minister's office in Ottawa in April.

00:18:54.460 So people can find us at www.jccf, F as in freedom, jccf.ca, and please sign the petition.

00:19:04.460 The other really worrisome thing is that this legislation gives powers to the federal cabinet to create censorship regulations that will apply to all social media services in Canada.

00:19:19.460 And then there will be the creation of a digital safety commission.

00:19:24.460 Watch out for things that have the word safety in them.

00:19:27.460 During the French Revolution, it was the Committee for Public Safety that chopped off the heads of thousands of people.

00:19:33.460 So we're going to have a digital safety commission to enforce those regulations, and those regulations will be made in secret by the federal cabinet without any input from parliament.

00:19:46.460 Yeah, this stuff is just going down the realm of crazy train.

00:19:49.460 And this bill, I looked at it, I mean, it has hundreds of pages.

00:19:51.460 Unfortunately, it's like an omnibus piece.

00:19:53.460 It's got a lot packed in there, most of it bad.

00:19:56.460 Another part that I saw was some of the penalties they're proposing are, again, just beyond the pale.

00:20:02.460 This bill outright prescribes as much as a life sentence, which we can't even get for murderers quite often in this country, but a life sentence if somebody promotes genocide.

00:20:13.460 And we're in the midst of a discussion of, I mean, some people say that if you say that Israel has the right to defend itself, you're supporting genocide.

00:20:20.460 Or if you deny that there's bodies buried in Kamloops, you support genocide.

00:20:25.460 So by theory, you're putting yourself at risk of a life sentence.

00:20:29.460 Again, isn't this the sort of thing that most judges would say, look, we can't apply a sentence this heavy on such a relatively minor offense, if indeed it's an offense?

00:20:40.460 Well, currently the criminal code provides for a maximum penalty of five years in jail for publicly advocating for genocide.

00:20:49.460 So they want to increase that from a five year maximum to life in prison as the maximum.

00:20:54.460 Consider the fact that currently the criminal code for sexually assaulting a minor under the age of 16, the maximum penalty is 14 years in prison.

00:21:06.460 So it seems like the federal cabinet thinks that advocating for genocide, warranting potentially life imprisonment is worse than raping a child, which would get you a maximum of 14 years in prison.

00:21:20.460 I mean, the priorities are just skewed.

00:21:23.460 And something else they did politically, though, I mean, and I noticed they put it at the top of the bill.

00:21:28.460 When I started reading the bill, at first it didn't seem quite so bad.

00:21:31.460 OK, they're talking about bringing in some more stuff to go after people who were hosting child porn.

00:21:36.460 OK, everybody's disgusted with that. I can support going after those perverts and further, you know, going. 0.65

00:21:41.460 But the problem is, once you get past that, that's where they drop all of the rest of the garbage into this bill.

00:21:47.460 Do you think maybe it's possible to clip off the first few pages of this bill and pass it and then just get rid of all the rest?

00:21:54.460 Well, these the things that the Online Harms Act claims to address are already criminal.

00:22:01.460 So, for example, posting revenge porn online is currently already a criminal code offence.

00:22:08.460 Posting an intimate image of somebody without their consent is a criminal offence.

00:22:13.460 The willful promotion of hatred is a criminal offence.

00:22:17.460 Advocating for genocide is a criminal offence.

00:22:20.460 Advocating for violence or terrorism or the violent overthrow of the government of Canada is already a criminal offence.

00:22:28.460 Encouraging anybody to to to violate the criminal code is already a criminal offence in and of itself.

00:22:36.460 If I tell you, you know, Corey, you should go shoplifting tomorrow and if I was serious about it, I've already committed a crime.

00:22:43.460 So this is just adding on a thick layer of vague human rights laws to further chill speech when the the problems which are real are already being addressed by the Criminal Code of Canada.

00:22:58.460 Yeah, well, and it takes away from from people committing real crimes.

00:23:01.460 I mean, if we're using our resources going after some ding dong who posted something offensive on social media somewhere. 0.99

00:23:06.460 Meanwhile, we do have some people that might be standing on a street street corner, you know, trying to scream and gather people to assault or harm an identifiable group.

00:23:15.460 I mean, we only have so many resources to track them down.

00:23:17.460 I mean, there are real crimes out there, but, you know, we're spreading this so thin going after anybody and everybody says something online.

00:23:23.460 We're going to run out of resources to get the real criminals.

00:23:26.460 Yeah, this this builds on the prior bills, Bill C-11 and C-18.

00:23:31.460 And it's it's a gradual government takeover of the Internet.

00:23:35.460 And it's a step by step by step.

00:23:37.460 This this online harms bill, in my view, it's a it's not just a step in the wrong direction.

00:23:43.460 It's a great leap in the in the wrong direction.

00:23:46.460 And it's going to do more to harm our freedom of expression than the prior bills, C-11 and C-18, which are a little bit more subtle and indirect.

00:23:56.460 But they're also a threat to our free expression.

00:23:59.460 Well, so this bill has been tabled now.

00:24:02.460 There are some people saying, though, I mean, the way the government works and how fast it works is the chances of this bill getting all three readings and then royal assent and through the Senate by the time the next election's held are are pretty slim.

00:24:12.460 And we shouldn't have to rely on this thing dying on the order paper.

00:24:16.460 But if the government's in a hurry, they can get this thing through fast if they want to. Right.

00:24:20.460 Well, you and I have seen this many times, both both provincially and federally.

00:24:24.460 When a government is hell bent on getting a certain bill through, they will bang, bang, bang, first reading, second reading, third reading, and they will use their majority to cut off debate.

00:24:37.460 They will use their majority to see to it that that there is not a parliamentary hearings, which is normal with with many, many bills.

00:24:46.460 You've got an all party committee of MPs that that reflects the composition of the House of Commons and you have witnesses, you have testimony and you have, you know, the way it should be a very thoughtful process with plenty of opportunity for public participation.

00:25:02.460 Hopefully the government will allow that.

00:25:05.460 But if they choose not to, they could rush this through in in 48 to 72 hours if they wanted to.

00:25:11.460 So it's really crucial for people to contact their MP immediately by phone or email, sign the petition and spread the word.

00:25:19.460 Yeah, well, and, you know, this sort of thing, I mean, I can already see how they're politically framing it.

00:25:26.460 I mean, in putting the anti child porn stuff at the top, as soon as anybody comes out in opposition to this bill, they're going to turn out and say, well, you support the publishing of images of minors online. 0.94

00:25:36.460 You know, a pornographic images, you how dare you, you vile person. 0.99

00:25:40.460 But I think the electorate maybe is finally starting to see through this crap, aren't they? 1.00

00:25:44.460 Well, I hope so. 0.98

00:25:45.460 The other thing that's already criminal is threats and intimidation.

00:25:50.460 So part of the part of what they bring forward is we have to we have to prevent nasty people on the Internet from from from bullying children or from encouraging children to to self harm.

00:26:01.460 That, too, is already covered by existing laws.

00:26:06.460 And the other thing the bill completely forgets about is that that a big part of the solution to children getting harmed online is for parents to ensure that their kids are not glued to a computer screen or an iPhone or a smartphone, whatever.

00:26:20.460 It's up to parents to make sure that to protect their children by not giving their children unlimited and unsupervised access to the Internet and social media.

00:26:30.460 And that's a huge part of the solution.

00:26:32.460 But the government likes to pretend that, you know, parents, parents are not big players.

00:26:37.460 So it's up to the government to be the big parent to look after these things when really the first the first part and the major part of the solution to protecting children from online harm lies with the parents.

00:26:50.460 I'm not saying we shouldn't also have appropriate criminal code provisions as we do, but the the big thing is for parents to assume responsibility for what their kids are seeing online.

00:27:01.460 Yeah, I mean, I don't this is a government that can't even get their own payroll system right.

00:27:06.460 I don't want to entrust them with the ability or the the task of raising our children.

00:27:10.460 They think that they'll only make a mess of it.

00:27:12.460 If anything, they should be empowering parents and encouraging parents to get in more involved in their their their children's, you know, growth and development.

00:27:19.460 I mean, it's a tough task and a lot of opinions and that this just gets all the more intrusive.

00:27:24.460 And when you take responsibility away from others, it'll probably just make the problem worse.

00:27:28.460 That's what's likely to happen.

00:27:31.460 Well, I guess before I let you go, so you're doing a petition with the JCCF.

00:27:35.460 Are you have you guys I guess you can't really challenge a bill that hasn't even been passed yet.

00:27:39.460 But have you got other actions planned aside from that or for now you're advocating kind of and just gathering the steam that hopefully you can shut this down in its tracks.

00:27:48.460 But I imagine if the bill goes through, then you'll get to work on other things, too.

00:27:52.460 Well, we will be our team of lawyers and paralegals as well as communication staff.

00:27:57.460 We will be submitting at least one brief, possibly more to the MPs outlining very specifically why this legislation is harmful and how it unjustifiably violates the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

00:28:13.460 And yes, we are looking at once it's proclaimed into force, we would look for the weakest, the worst provisions, particularly the one about preemptive punishment of people who have committed no crime.

00:28:28.460 That is one that we would seriously consider taking to court immediately, even before the harm comes from it.

00:28:39.460 Great. Well, I guess before I let you go, then, you know, I know you guys do a lot more.

00:28:44.460 You've had a lot of actions over the years and you've done a lot of great things with your organization, with the, you know, standing up for our constitutional freedoms, as is in the name of your organization.

00:28:52.460 So where can people find it to take part in the petition or donate?

00:28:57.460 I see one of our commenters saying he's a monthly donor for you guys and a lot of people really appreciate your work.

00:29:02.460 Well, we do rely entirely on voluntary donations from Canadians and we're a registered charity.

00:29:07.460 We issue official tax receipts.

00:29:09.460 Donations can be made online at www.jccf.ca and there's a snail mill address there.

00:29:16.460 If you want to mail in a check, we happily accept those as well.

00:29:19.460 Great. Well, thank you very much for coming on today to talk to us, John, and for the work you guys are doing.

00:29:25.460 Let's hope maybe this thing just gets put to rest.

00:29:28.460 But I mean, if we aren't on guard, we know that we can see that this government wants to slip these things through.

00:29:32.460 So it's going to be an ongoing fight.

00:29:34.460 Well, thanks for having me on your show, Corey.

00:29:36.460 Great. I hope we can talk again soon, John. Thanks.

00:29:39.460 So just one more time, that is John Carpe with the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.

00:29:44.460 And yes, they're doing very important work and they do need support.

00:29:48.460 These guys are funded by donors and they're standing up for some very, very important rights.

00:29:53.460 And this bill is just again, it's beyond the pale.

00:29:55.460 You know, I mean, I'm a pretty cynical guy.

00:29:57.460 I tend to expect the worst out of government.

00:30:00.460 And still they managed to surprise me with how far they will go.

00:30:04.460 This is a government obsessed with controlling our communications, with controlling our speech, with controlling our actions.

00:30:10.460 This is an authoritarian government.

00:30:13.460 You know, people talk about it's the left, it's the right.

00:30:16.460 You know, I tend to lean one way or another, but the bigger it's not the conservatism or the socialism or the leftism or rightism.

00:30:23.460 It's the authoritarianism you should be afraid of, folks.

00:30:26.460 That's the one.

00:30:27.460 It doesn't matter whether it's right or left.

00:30:29.460 If the government's got control of your life, you're in trouble.

00:30:32.460 And this is how they do it. They do it incrementally.

00:30:34.460 They do it through bills like this.

00:30:36.460 And this bill is something else.

00:30:38.460 If a bill this bad can get through, we're in far worse trouble than I even imagined.

00:30:43.460 And, you know, I'm raising the alarms quite often about trouble we're in.

00:30:45.460 So, again, let's, you know, thanks to John and others who are out there working to, because we do have a court system.

00:30:50.460 We have remedies to try and push back and fight these things.

00:30:53.460 And it's very important.

00:30:54.460 All right.

00:30:55.460 You know, a guest I've had on a couple of times before.

00:30:57.460 I've seen him on the news lately.

00:30:59.460 Don Sharp, you might remember him.

00:31:01.460 He's a retired paramedic, fantastic guy.

00:31:04.460 And he's really been advocating and lobbying, you know, to try and reform Alberta's paramedic system, because it's a mess.

00:31:11.460 You know, we have a lot of stuff going on.

00:31:13.460 And as much as Premier Smith has even talked about a lot of solutions, you know, to end the hallway care, to end the wasteful use of ambulances for non-urgent patient transfers and everything.

00:31:23.460 It seems like the powers that be are dragging their feet.

00:31:26.460 They're fighting this.

00:31:27.460 They're, you know, trying to keep change from coming through.

00:31:32.460 And Don's keeping the pressure on.

00:31:33.460 And hopefully, you know, I think part of the problem is the provincial government wants to move on this, but they got their irons in 100 fires.

00:31:38.460 They're having trouble keeping up.

00:31:40.460 But we're looking at some of these numbers.

00:31:41.460 I mean, it's 2023.

00:31:42.460 So this is during the time of the UCP government.

00:31:44.460 You know, can't blame this on Notley or even Kenny so much.

00:31:46.460 The Calgary rural zone.

00:31:48.460 That's where I live.

00:31:49.460 I live just outside of Calgary and Prittis and our ambulance is almost never in Prittis because it's always being pulled into Calgary to do Calgarian services.

00:31:58.460 And often those are doing non-urgent patient transfers.

00:32:01.460 That means the patient isn't in an emergency situation.

00:32:04.460 They're moving them from a hospital to a care center or hospital to a hospital.

00:32:08.460 And, you know, a lot of these, a lot of these could actually be done in taxis, to be honest, but everybody's so liability averse that, oh, we can't do that.

00:32:15.460 What if the person, you know, it's, it gets ill on route, but also we do not need a fully, you know, staffed truck with paramedics tied up for a non-urgent patient transfer, much less stealing them from the rural areas.

00:32:28.460 And it's still happening.

00:32:29.460 We've been talking about it.

00:32:30.460 One of the solutions was talking about having other private providers, you know, use ambulances.

00:32:37.460 And I mean, different, you know, there's still skilled, trained people for these patient transfers.

00:32:41.460 So we can keep the other AHS ambulances on the road for the emergencies, for the car accidents, for the dog maulings and all the other things that they, so important work that they do.

00:32:49.460 Yet in 2023, 1178 times rural ambulances were pulled away to do non-urgent patient transfers, which meant we had no ambulance coverage.

00:33:00.460 You know, there was no ambulance available because they're in Calgary doing a non-urgent one.

00:33:04.460 And these companies, they're, they're very good.

00:33:07.460 I mean, one is Aaron Paramedical.

00:33:08.460 For whatever reason, their contract was just dropped to do these things.

00:33:13.460 And I, I think they've got an announcement coming soon.

00:33:15.460 There's one other company they might approve.

00:33:17.460 Cause see what they did is say, okay, we'll allow these private providers to come in and do these non, you know, patient transfers and some other services.

00:33:23.460 But then they brought in all of these requirements, these ridiculous requirements.

00:33:27.460 They have to take part in the dispatch system and all this other junk when it seriously, you can use a cell phone system nowadays to do that, to keep them out of there.

00:33:36.460 They're baffling with BS is what they're doing. 0.94

00:33:38.460 It's pure bureaucratic garbage where they're regulating this out of, out of existence and it's wrong. 0.98

00:33:46.460 And we're all getting worse service for it. 0.96

00:33:49.460 So I just wanted to bring it up.

00:33:51.460 I'm going to talk to Don, I think down the road pretty soon.

00:33:53.460 We'll see where this is going.

00:33:54.460 Cause there's more announcements coming.

00:33:55.460 And this is very important.

00:33:56.460 It's an aspect of healthcare.

00:33:58.460 That's really quite immediately fixable.

00:34:01.460 We can really fix this one up fairly fast and fairly easily.

00:34:04.460 If we could just get into that bureaucracy, find out who these gatekeepers are, push them aside and force these changes in.

00:34:12.460 Got to get it done.

00:34:13.460 As people are literally dying for waiting for ambulances when they shouldn't have to.

00:34:18.460 All right.

00:34:19.460 And yeah, so this ongoing news, and that's really been kind of breaking today.

00:34:21.460 Dave was talking about, you know, how they were mentioned.

00:34:23.460 You know, how they were mentioned, they were described as middle-aged women who were vandalizing the recall gondex signs. 0.92

00:34:28.460 You know, what else we call them.

00:34:31.460 I like the term Herodon.

00:34:32.460 If you want to look that up.

00:34:33.460 Herodon. 0.97

00:34:34.460 It's a fantastic descriptive term for a nasty old gal. 1.00

00:34:39.460 Because again, these entitled, arrogant people. 1.00

00:34:44.460 Who do you think you are? 0.92

00:34:46.460 You have the right to oppose the recall petition.

00:34:49.460 Fine.

00:34:50.460 But who the hell do you think you are to go out and boldly smirk while vandalizing somebody else's property?

00:34:59.460 You'd have not got that right. 0.93

00:35:01.460 In fact, again, it shows why old Herodons like you should have no influence on power whatsoever. 1.00

00:35:06.460 You're self-entitled old crones. 0.95

00:35:08.460 You should be at home with your cats cleaning urine instead of out on the streets damaging the property of people doing a democratic exercise. 0.95

00:35:17.460 That's getting back to what I'm talking about.

00:35:18.460 The establishment is terrified.

00:35:20.460 People are standing up.

00:35:21.460 They're getting to work.

00:35:22.460 And I'll tell you what, this is really quite interesting.

00:35:26.460 Because, look, and I've said it before and I still believe it.

00:35:29.460 The recall Gondek thing?

00:35:31.460 Not a chance in hell this thing is going to go through.

00:35:33.460 They need 514,000 signatures.

00:35:36.460 I think they've only got about a week or two weeks left to get them.

00:35:39.460 And it's just physically impossible.

00:35:43.460 To be honest, I will be surprised if they have over 100,000.

00:35:46.460 I'm not trying to crap on the efforts of these guys.

00:35:49.460 That's what's been impressive from them, though.

00:35:51.460 They have been organizing.

00:35:52.460 They've been sitting up all over the city.

00:35:54.460 They've been engaging people.

00:35:56.460 But you see, that's what's got the establishment so terrified.

00:36:00.460 They know this petition isn't going to go through.

00:36:03.460 But they also don't like the thought, holy cow, Calgarians are getting up and doing something.

00:36:07.460 And they're interacting.

00:36:09.460 And they're practicing.

00:36:10.460 And they're engaging.

00:36:11.460 And you know what they're doing?

00:36:12.460 They're training.

00:36:13.460 Because the next municipal election is only a year and a half away.

00:36:17.460 And these folks who are working on this recall right now, they're getting to know each other.

00:36:26.460 They're networking.

00:36:27.460 Those are the ones that are going to be on the ground campaigning next time around to get rid of Gondek. 1.00

00:36:32.460 In the real election, not in a recall effort.

00:36:34.460 So no, I'm not opposed to this recall thing.

00:36:36.460 I think it's actually done a lot of good in that it's really shaken up the establishment.

00:36:41.460 I mean, they're sending their little old biddies out to attack the signs now.

00:36:44.460 They got Dwayne Bratt going on a big conspiracy.

00:36:46.460 Yes, yes, apparently there's other groups that have been involved.

00:36:52.460 And there's not even other groups.

00:36:53.460 There's this weird document, a piece of paper that Dwayne Bratt found and CTV found it worth reporting on that showed an organizational list.

00:37:01.460 It sounds like this group is trying to put together an organization for municipal engagement.

00:37:06.460 Maybe the foundation of a municipal party down the road.

00:37:10.460 And some of the people's background happened to be with the Take Back Alberta.

00:37:13.460 I think Take Back Alberta has thousands of people who could identify as being a part of that group.

00:37:17.460 It doesn't mean they're controlled by David Parker or Take Back or Alberta or any of that.

00:37:22.460 But the conspiracies, oh dear, the conspiracies.

00:37:24.460 There's groups behind this group. 0.98

00:37:26.460 Yes, it's called organization, you ask clowns. 0.96

00:37:29.460 This isn't all that shocking. 0.95

00:37:30.460 In fact, it's the way it's supposed to work.

00:37:33.460 But boy, it's got you scared, doesn't it?

00:37:35.460 That really says a lot.

00:37:37.460 It really does.

00:37:38.460 It's like, as I responded to CTV, because they put it out.

00:37:42.460 Oh, this recall isn't all it's expected to be.

00:37:44.460 There's groups behind it.

00:37:46.460 Did they really think that the one and only guy, the lone guy who started the ball rolling,

00:37:52.460 was going to do the whole thing by himself?

00:37:54.460 Of course, groups are going to get involved.

00:37:56.460 Doesn't mean they're controlled.

00:37:57.460 Doesn't mean it's nefarious.

00:37:59.460 What else is going to happen?

00:38:00.460 So the groups are helping.

00:38:02.460 So what?

00:38:03.460 Boy, you're scared.

00:38:04.460 And you're sure implying things as if there's some odd conspiracy.

00:38:07.460 People are wondering.

00:38:09.460 I noticed the commenter Valerie Cooper saying, you know, have I had the fellow on who started this whole thing?

00:38:14.460 No, I tried.

00:38:15.460 I booked him twice and he stood me up twice.

00:38:17.460 Actually, I don't think he did it out of malice.

00:38:20.460 I think he just did it out of irresponsibility and not knowing how to set an alarm on his phone, whatever.

00:38:25.460 I still applaud him for getting this ball rolling and everything.

00:38:28.460 But again, if people think this was some conspiratorial effort to have a giant political action going, I would think that whoever headed this thing up would be somebody a little more politically experienced and skilled than the one they have, who's kind of been doing it so far.

00:38:46.460 And I don't see that to be the case, you know, if you're going to pull off stunts like that with friendly media outlets.

00:38:53.460 But either way, unfortunately, no, I tried speaking with him.

00:38:55.460 It certainly didn't work.

00:38:56.460 And, well, I wish him the best.

00:38:58.460 But, yeah, they're thinking there's conspiracies going on.

00:39:00.460 I mean, that's the whisper campaign.

00:39:02.460 The other thing, though, one concern that is a little bit valid, and this is one of the things Gondek's been implying that SB Conheritance.

00:39:09.460 And she's been talking along the lines of saying, we don't know about the privacy of the people who put their names on those forms.

00:39:17.460 Okay, well, the petitioners are not supposed to use any of those signatures, any of that information for anything else but this petition.

00:39:29.460 And I've seen some people discussing that online, oh, we should hang on to this so we can use it in the election.

00:39:33.460 No, do not do that.

00:39:35.460 Don't even think of doing that.

00:39:36.460 Don't take pictures of it.

00:39:37.460 Don't make copies of it.

00:39:38.460 That's not what it's for.

00:39:40.460 That would play right into Gondek's hands.

00:39:42.460 If the people who signed that petition to recall Gondek suddenly are getting phone calls from a political activist group a month from now, two months from now, you really are going to see some problems.

00:39:52.460 Use it only for this, not for data mining.

00:39:55.460 You want to data mine, you start an online petition.

00:39:57.460 You go knocking door to door and say, this is the purpose of me talking to you.

00:40:02.460 I'd like to add you to a database to talk further.

00:40:04.460 But this petition can't be used for anything except this recall.

00:40:08.460 So do not do it.

00:40:10.460 Don't give them an excuse.

00:40:11.460 And again, this is just Gondek implying that the information on that petition is going to be misappropriated.

00:40:18.460 And there's no evidence it has been or that it will be.

00:40:21.460 And it shows the low level of Gondek. 0.78

00:40:23.460 It shows how scared she is though.

00:40:24.460 Why are you even addressing it?

00:40:25.460 If it's nothing, why are you taking the time to talk about it?

00:40:28.460 Because she's scared.

00:40:29.460 She's not scared of the petition too.

00:40:31.460 I mean, she doesn't know how to do economics. 1.00

00:40:33.460 That's clear.

00:40:34.460 But she knows enough math to know that a bunch of people are not going to get 100,000 more signatures on an official petition than even voted in the last election.

00:40:42.460 Jason Kenney made the recall legislation garbage on purpose.

00:40:46.460 It's an impossible barrier.

00:40:48.460 We'll see how much they come up with by the end of it.

00:40:51.460 The fact that people are on the ground organizing, that's got them scared.

00:40:55.460 And I think that's great.

00:40:57.460 That's great.

00:40:58.460 You want to make the politicians shake.

00:41:00.460 I mean, it isn't even, they don't even get this nervous when there's a big protest.

00:41:03.460 You know, a bunch of people waving signs outside of city hall or at a park or anything.

00:41:07.460 No, that's, these are people working on the ground, knocking on doors.

00:41:10.460 These are people talking with each other.

00:41:12.460 These are people campaigning.

00:41:13.460 That's got them frightened.

00:41:14.460 That's got them frightened.

00:41:15.460 And that should be applied more to our provincial and federal politics too, guys. 0.97

00:41:19.460 We can do better if we get off our butts.

00:41:21.460 We do have the mechanisms. 0.98

00:41:23.460 We do.

00:41:24.460 Our system has a lot of flaws, but it is still a democracy.

00:41:27.460 And if we use the tools we've got, we can make it a heck of a lot better.

00:41:31.460 So these guys are doing a good job as far as that goes. 0.94

00:41:34.460 And it's got these clowns frightened. 0.95

00:41:35.460 And I think it's fantastic. 0.88

00:41:36.460 So we'll watch as this continues to develop.

00:41:38.460 We'll see what other kind of conspiracy theories Dwayne and CTV can come up with.

00:41:42.460 But I, it's not going to save this mayor.

00:41:45.460 You know, again, in a year and a half, we're going to have a municipal election.

00:41:49.460 I hope there's a party in place or parties in place to really hit.

00:41:53.460 It's not just Gondek. 0.98

00:41:54.460 She's got a few of those clowns on council. 1.00

00:41:56.460 They're just terrible, terrible. 1.00

00:41:58.460 And it's not just Calgary.

00:41:59.460 You know, again, so people say, why is Alberta so conservative in any other way except municipally?

00:42:04.460 Because we let it get that way.

00:42:06.460 It's our own fault.

00:42:07.460 It's fair enough. 0.94

00:42:08.460 But now there's people getting people off their butts and it's going to work. 0.94

00:42:11.460 All right. 0.99

00:42:12.460 Let's talk about some of the other garbage, right? 0.80

00:42:14.460 This is stuff coming from the Taxpayers Federation, COP28, you know, the big climate gathering 0.94

00:42:19.460 where they go to live in the lap of luxury, flying first class across the world, burning

00:42:23.460 more fuels in one week than most families could probably do in a year or two.

00:42:28.460 Each of them doing that much.

00:42:30.460 So taxpayers, that one so far, they found $1.35 million.

00:42:33.460 That's what it cost us to fly a bunch of people over to hang out in Dubai and rub shoulders

00:42:39.460 and rub whatever else these guys rub on each other while they talk about how we're going

00:42:43.460 to tax the world into a better climate.

00:42:45.460 And one of the bills within it was an $1,822 a night hotel room.

00:42:51.460 $1,822 bucks a night.

00:42:53.460 You know, two nights in that hotel is more than my typical full vacation budget.

00:42:58.460 Yet somebody, they haven't said who yet, somebody stayed in this $1,820.

00:43:03.460 You would think they were so busy at this thing.

00:43:06.460 Would it matter?

00:43:07.460 Did you really need an $1,800 room?

00:43:09.460 It's so important.

00:43:10.460 All you need is a comfortable bed, don't you?

00:43:13.460 These guys are robbing us folks. 0.98

00:43:15.460 They're screwing us. 1.00

00:43:16.460 And yes, the hypocrisy is galling. 0.99

00:43:19.460 And this is what you work for.

00:43:21.460 This is what you pay extra at the pump for.

00:43:23.460 This is what you pay GST for.

00:43:24.460 This is what comes off your paycheck for.

00:43:26.460 So guys like this can stay in $1,800 a night hotel rooms and tell you what to do. 1.00

00:43:32.460 Because you're the bad one for daring to drive a car to work to make money to pay for this jerk. 1.00

00:43:38.460 Yeah, this country is broken. 1.00

00:43:40.460 This is why we've got to get up and not just screaming and waving signs on the street,

00:43:44.460 but getting active in the political process.

00:43:48.460 And as I said, we've got the process there.

00:43:50.460 And I just think it's great seeing people getting up and doing it.

00:43:53.460 Let's see them do it more.

00:43:54.460 Every province, every city, every...

00:43:56.460 Just do it.

00:43:57.460 Get out there.

00:43:58.460 We can make it work.

00:43:59.460 We can change it.

00:44:01.460 Look what they're doing to us as a price for our apathy right now.

00:44:07.460 And again, let's just see how bad government is at running things. 0.98

00:44:11.460 The Trans Mountain expansion line has been shut down yet again.

00:44:15.460 Yes, they found a red-tailed hawk near the line or a nest for a red-tailed hawk.

00:44:21.460 Now, people might not understand, red-tailed hawks are almost as common as sparrows.

00:44:25.460 They're everywhere.

00:44:26.460 They are not endangered in the slightest sort of way.

00:44:30.460 The nest, big deal.

00:44:32.460 They nest right next to farmhouses.

00:44:34.460 You can make a bit of noise.

00:44:35.460 It'll be fine.

00:44:36.460 But you know who found it?

00:44:37.460 It was an indigenous environmental monitor.

00:44:39.460 For those who've worked in the oil field, you know, and I hate to say it, but most of these monitors you hire, you're just giving an elder a bunch of money to stand around and feel better about himself so they stay out of your hair while you get the job done.

00:44:49.460 Unfortunately, once in a while they feel like getting in there and trying to find something.

00:44:53.460 And this one came out and found evidence of a red-tailed hawk and shut down this multi-billion dollar pipeline again.

00:45:00.460 This thing's going to, it's just brutal what it's going to cost us by the time it's done.

00:45:05.460 Only government can run it this bad.

00:45:06.460 And just remember, as this thing's getting up to $40 billion in years past schedule, we could have had this built for $4 billion totally on private funds.

00:45:13.460 All Trudeau had to do is get out of the bloody way.

00:45:16.460 That's all he had to do.

00:45:17.460 But he couldn't do that.

00:45:18.460 Governments, authoritarian governments, they can't leave it alone.

00:45:21.460 They can't get out of the way.

00:45:22.460 They're incapable of it.

00:45:23.460 All right.

00:45:24.460 I'm going to get out of your way.

00:45:25.460 That's all the time I've got for today, guys.

00:45:27.460 Be sure to tune in tonight.

00:45:28.460 The pipeline will be on.

00:45:29.460 We'll be breaking down a few more issues and talking about many more things.

00:45:32.460 And yeah, keep active, guys.

00:45:35.460 Keep those politicians accountable.

00:45:36.460 Keep screaming and hollering at them.

00:45:38.460 They need it.

00:45:39.460 And keep tuning in here.

00:45:41.460 So thank you very much for tuning in today, guys.

00:45:43.460 I'll see you next week at this time.

00:46:11.460 We'll see you next week.

00:46:41.460 Bye-bye.

00:46:42.460 Bye-bye.

00:46:44.460 Bye-bye.

00:46:45.460 Bye-bye.

00:46:46.460 Hi.

00:46:47.460 Bye-bye.

00:46:55.460 Bye.

00:47:01.460 Bye-bye.

Western Standard - March 20, 2024

CMS： Let's get those municipal parties started.

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