Western Standard - CMS： Let’s get those municipal parties started!

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 good day welcome to the cory morgan show it's bloody winter again last weekend i was doing

00:00:43.780 my hive inspections on my bees i was cleaning up the mess exposed as the snow melted from my

00:00:49.100 dogs in the backyard now we're back into as much as a foot of snow or more coming into alberta over

00:00:54.880 the next week. Well, hopefully it's the last blast of this crap before spring really does 0.75

00:00:59.100 come around. I've just never been a winter person. But hey, if you guys love it good for you, 0.98

00:01:04.160 I'm sick of it already. Either way, lots of other stuff to complain about besides the weather today.

00:01:09.120 I'm going to have John Carpe come on a little while here. He's going to talk. He's from the

00:01:13.540 Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms. He's a lawyer, but don't hold that against him. He's

00:01:17.540 done a lot of good things, and he's certainly got some good things to say about a bad thing,

00:01:22.920 which is Bill C-63, which is out to police our speech and is just sort of an insane sort of bill

00:01:29.400 being tabled by our federal masters in Ottawa. Good to see you there, Jordan and others. You know,

00:01:34.420 use that comment scroll. I like seeing that. This can be interactive. You know, I do answer

00:01:39.180 questions sometimes if I, you know, when I could pass them on to guests, throw them up there. I

00:01:44.060 don't necessarily read them all out, but I see them all there and I appreciate it. Just try to

00:01:49.000 keep civil with each other. You know, we can get on each other's cases without being over the top.

00:01:53.500 All right, let's talk about something that's been in the news, things that are kind of getting

00:01:56.100 rolling in Alberta, and it should happen in every province. We're talking about the question of

00:01:59.700 having political parties in municipal elections. And boy, I tell you, municipal leaders are pretty

00:02:06.600 worked up over the whole concept because it sounds like Premier Smith is going to

00:02:10.060 bring in legislation to allow it. Now, the question these incumbent municipal politicians

00:02:14.180 should be asking as they rally in opposition to allowing parties in municipal politics is

00:02:19.180 Or what we should be asking them is, what are you afraid of?

00:02:22.100 I mean, the case being made by Albertan mayors, Reeves, and councillors in opposition to these proposed changes

00:02:27.360 is that nobody wants to see these parties.

00:02:29.780 They're saying Albertans don't want it.

00:02:32.280 It's okay.

00:02:32.820 If that's the case, then you guys should have nothing to worry about.

00:02:35.900 You'll be re-elected as independent candidates, and the parties will just fade away into the sidelines, right?

00:02:42.140 The reality is, countless municipal politicians have been taking advantage of the lack of party politics at the municipal level,

00:02:49.000 coupled with the apathy of voters to get elected under false pretenses.

00:02:52.720 I mean, we've got no means of vetting through a party nomination process,

00:02:55.820 so candidates can disguise themselves as conservative-minded people when they're running for office.

00:03:00.780 Of course, once they get elected, they tack hard left,

00:03:03.620 and unfortunately the frustrated electorate tends to stay home rather than vote these pretenders out of office.

00:03:09.080 Former Calgary Mayor Nahed Nenshi is a prime example of that.

00:03:12.720 Municipal politics in Alberta right now are a mess.

00:03:15.740 Councils everywhere are fractured at each other's throats, not getting anything done,

00:03:19.620 while frustrated voters are trying things such as recall initiatives to get rid of these terrible politicians.

00:03:24.600 I mean, look at Chestermere. The province had to actually step in and fire the mayor and council

00:03:28.540 because they were too nutty to try and bring to a reasonable state of functional order.

00:03:32.960 Would a party system cure all these ills in the municipal system?

00:03:36.360 No, of course not. It wouldn't. But it sure would help.

00:03:38.520 If candidates have a party allegiance tied to them, voters, people, and general citizens can get a better idea of where that candidate stands ideologically.

00:03:48.020 Parties typically have a nomination process before endorsing candidates.

00:03:51.780 If there's a contested nomination, we can rest assured that closet socialists are going to be exposed before they hit the ballot in the general election. 0.99

00:03:59.160 Some of the less than mentally stable contenders for the job could probably be weeded out as well.

00:04:03.560 I mean, we get a lot of good candidates running for office, but they lose the elections because

00:04:08.160 they don't know how to run in them. And they don't have an organization behind them to help

00:04:12.500 them along with it. With parties, candidates have a structure and a potential team to help them

00:04:16.960 effectively contest the election. And then costs in campaigning, they can be reduced as candidates

00:04:21.960 can share costs from constituency to constituency on things like branding, communications, printing,

00:04:27.820 and even sharing campaign office space. With a party apparatus, candidates with limited campaign

00:04:33.300 experience can still compete effectively for the role. Parties can also hold candidates accountable

00:04:38.820 between elections. That's something we all dearly want. I mean, much like in other levels of

00:04:42.680 government, a party can't remove a person from their elected position, nor should they be able

00:04:46.000 to, but a party can refuse to endorse that candidate in the next election if the candidate

00:04:50.140 deviates too far from the shared principles they said they held with the party. That ability,

00:04:55.100 though, does reflect one of the potential downsides of a party system. I mean, to be fair,

00:04:58.520 candidates could find themselves more inclined to answer to the party than their constituents,

00:05:01.820 and that's not a good thing. It's a risk that should be mitigated through party policies,

00:05:06.660 though. When municipal parties are formed, representatives will need to have the leeway

00:05:11.080 to be able to represent their needs of the individual constituencies rather than always

00:05:14.480 towing a party line. I mean, a suburban councillor, they're going to have different

00:05:18.420 policies and priorities and needs than an inner city urban council would, and they should have

00:05:23.680 the flexibility to represent those differences. With city and town councils having a small number

00:05:28.760 of people within them, these councils. Traditional party politics such as whip votes won't work 0.80

00:05:33.400 anyway. So those problems though can and would be ironed out with an effective party. We can't

00:05:38.140 pretend that parties don't exist in municipal politics already. Alberta unions put together

00:05:42.300 a war chest of an estimated 1.7 million dollars and gave it to a political action group called

00:05:47.900 Calgary's Future in the last election. Now that group's purpose was to elect a certain slate of

00:05:52.380 candidates in the municipal election and lo and behold most of the candidates endorsed by the

00:05:56.060 unions won their seats. You know what that's called? A party system. We already have it, guys.

00:06:02.320 We'd be better served to make the system official and then make the parties transparent.

00:06:06.560 Many of the municipal politicians currently howling and pissing and moaning over the advent

00:06:09.900 of a party system in Alberta's municipal elections got elected with union support.

00:06:14.220 They know full well they likely couldn't win re-election if they had to wear their union

00:06:18.000 allegiance on their sleeves while competing for the job against other candidates running

00:06:22.080 under a party banner. Their interest isn't that of Albertans, their interest is in themselves.

00:06:27.720 People often ask, why does Alberta vote conservatively, federally, and provincially,

00:06:30.940 yet elects far-left politicians at the municipal level? Well, the main reason is the lack of parties

00:06:35.060 at the municipal level. Leftists know they can't win through openly campaigning on their ideology,

00:06:39.260 so they've gravitated to the level of politics where they can hide their leanings, and it's been

00:06:43.100 an effective tactic on their part. And again, if it's true that Albertans truly don't want party

00:06:47.960 politics in municipal elections, then these municipal politicians currently in power have

00:06:51.560 nothing to worry about. Few would vote for those ghastly party-endorsed politicians anyways, right?

00:06:57.760 So why are you guys so worried? It's the fact that these clowns are that worried. It tells me 0.98

00:07:02.080 exactly why we need those parties in municipal politics so much. I'm looking forward to seeing

00:07:07.040 them coming along. All right, enough out of me. Let's see what else is going on out in the world.

00:07:11.740 Check in with our news editor, Dave Naylor. Where are you, Dave? You should be there any moment now,

00:07:17.540 and we'll talk about what's happening in the newsroom. Hey, Dave, how's it going?

00:07:19.600 Yeah, here I am, Corey. You enjoying the first full day of spring?

00:07:23.280 No. Sucks. It's cold. It's snowy. I don't like it. 0.98

00:07:26.240 It's going to get worse going down to like minus 17.

00:07:30.060 Lots, lots more snow.

00:07:31.660 So, but always remember, we always get more snow in March than any other month.

00:07:35.780 Well, I guess if it moisturizes the ground, I'd still rather have rain than this bloody snow, but I don't have to shovel rain.

00:07:42.000 Yep, very true. And the hives are looking good?

00:07:45.320 They were last weekend.

00:07:46.540 Hopefully they bundled up for this next week and they're ready to get back in action next week.

00:07:51.920 Awesome. Looking forward to the honey delivery.

00:07:54.020 Yeah.

00:07:54.440 Yeah, a bit of a crazy morning here, Corey, with all sorts of political stuff going on.

00:08:00.120 Leading the website right now is a story that will not surprise really anybody in the least.

00:08:05.880 The federal government have found three more contractors.

00:08:08.480 they say has committed fraud basically double timing and false work and stuff like that so

00:08:16.920 they've referred those three contract cases to the RCMP so who would have guessed it Corey

00:08:24.220 Pierre Polyev leader of the opposition held a caucus meeting this morning where he announced

00:08:30.460 the the Tory motion on cutting the gas tax for April 1st will be a non-confidence motion

00:08:38.240 an economic motion. So that means if the Liberals lose, the government falls and we're into an

00:08:45.980 election. Chances of that pretty slim. Obviously, the NDP not really ready for an election. We'll

00:08:53.400 side with the Liberals. But it puts Poliev on good ground because he can now lay the feet of

00:08:59.800 the affordability crisis directly on the NDP-Liberal coalition. We got some interesting

00:09:06.880 video, Corey, of a couple of women. We decided to call them middle-aged. Some people in the

00:09:12.520 newsroom wanted to call them grannies, raging grannies, but they were filmed vandalizing a

00:09:19.140 recall Gondek sign. Some video yesterday, and they seem nonplussed to the fact that they were

00:09:26.680 being videoed and are easily identified. They changed the sign to respect Gondek instead of

00:09:33.960 recall Gondek. The police were called, and we do have a picture of the police on scene. They say

00:09:39.860 they're investigating, and they'll let us know what happens out of that. And there's a Liberal

00:09:45.440 MP called House Feather, a Jewish chap, I believe, who was disgusted at the vote over the NDP motion

00:09:52.680 on the Palestinian stuff on the other night. He says he might consider leaving the Liberal Party.

00:09:59.960 But, you know, today he showed his colors and said he's going to support the government on the GST motion.

00:10:05.060 So I don't really see him going anywhere.

00:10:07.880 So he hasn't left by now.

00:10:09.840 He's not going to.

00:10:10.640 He's not going to.

00:10:12.040 Corey, if you could commit me or permit me a personal moment here.

00:10:16.660 It's a big day coming up tomorrow in my family.

00:10:20.620 In 1964, a small church in Sheffield, Velia Cook became Velia Naylor when she married my dad.

00:10:29.480 and they didn't uh they didn't really have a reception or a first dance they wanted to get to

00:10:35.800 paris quickly as they could on their their honeymoon so uh off they went uh two years

00:10:41.560 later the handsomest baby boy in the world came around that's me not him uh that you're nico's 0.72

00:10:47.560 showing on the uh on the thing my sister came two years later they immigrated to canada 1.00

00:10:52.760 and the rest is history. So Mike and Velia Naylor have had two kids, five grandchildren,

00:11:02.120 and now their first great-grandchild. So tomorrow is their 60th wedding anniversary. Corey,

00:11:08.280 really an incredible achievement. I just want to say congratulations, Mom and Dad. Love you very

00:11:13.160 much. Right on. Yes, congratulations, Mike and Velia. That 60 years, that's quite an accomplishment.

00:11:18.760 I mean, we can even forgive them for having produced you.

00:11:22.900 Oh, ouch, Corey, you hurt my feeling.

00:11:25.300 I got to throw, get some heat into this office. 0.93

00:11:27.380 It's cold out today.

00:11:28.520 It is.

00:11:29.100 So, yeah, happy anniversary moment.

00:11:30.420 It is fantastic.

00:11:31.720 Right on.

00:11:32.160 Well, thanks, Dave.

00:11:33.340 Thank you.

00:11:34.140 See you in a while in the newsroom.

00:11:37.040 So, again, yeah, lots breaking, lots going on as Dave laid out.

00:11:40.580 This is what I like to remind everybody, the reason we can do this,

00:11:44.960 the reason we can keep Dave employed myself and all the rest of us here is because you guys have

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00:12:07.080 And that way we answer to you. So, uh, if you've subscribed already, thank you very much guys. And

00:12:13.340 if you haven't yet, come on, get on there and encourage some other people to do it. I mean,

00:12:17.340 come on, the state of legacy media is terrible and we do need to fix it up. And again, congratulations,

00:12:24.160 Mike and Media, 60 years. I mean, really, we don't see enough of that these days of people

00:12:27.600 making it that long. Jane and I got married later in life. So, I mean, if we make it to 60, boy,

00:12:32.300 I'm going to be really old by the time we get there. We can hope for the best, but I don't

00:12:36.340 think I'll make that landmark. All right, let's see. I see, I see, I see, I see, I see Mr. Carpe

00:12:43.940 in the waiting room already, and I sure really do want to have this conversation. So if he's ready

00:12:47.980 to roll, let's pull John in here and have a talk about C63. So this is John Carpe of the Justice

00:12:54.920 Center for Constitutional Freedom. So hi, John, how are you doing? I'm well, Corey. How are you?

00:12:59.600 Very good. Thanks. Aside from, you know, whining about the weather.

00:13:01.980 the farmers need the moisture i i pray for the farmers yeah look even the snowfall apparently

00:13:09.560 uh one centimeter of snow translates into uh only one millimeter of rain so they need lots

00:13:16.140 more moisture to have a good crop this year yeah but i'm still going to complain about it okay

00:13:21.500 it is a good thing so uh something else we can certainly complain about though c63 boy that's

00:13:27.940 monster that's been dropped on us. I guess kind of try and explain a little about what this bill

00:13:34.140 is and what's behind it. Well, it was introduced in late February. It brings back the powers to

00:13:41.980 the Canadian Human Rights Commission to prosecute people over non-criminal hate speech. And hate

00:13:50.100 is subjective. It's defined subjectively by, you know, whatever bureaucrats in charge of the

00:13:57.780 prosecution. And it also adds a new section to the criminal code of Canada, whereby a person

00:14:04.920 can be ordered to wear an ankle bracelet and observe a curfew and live under house arrest,

00:14:13.380 give up their legally owned, legally acquired firearms, et cetera, based on somebody saying

00:14:21.520 that they fear that that person is going to commit a hate speech crime, and then you would

00:14:29.580 be hauled before a provincial court judge. And if the judge believes that there's reasonable

00:14:35.020 grounds for that fear, again, we're talking about not something you're doing, but a speech crime

00:14:39.620 that you have not even committed, but that you might commit. And if the judge feels that you

00:14:45.140 might commit, violate the criminal code, hate speech provisions, all of those restrictions

00:14:52.420 being put under house arrest, etc. can be placed on a person. And if the person doesn't agree with

00:14:58.700 those conditions and abide by them, that person can face up to two years in jail. So this is very

00:15:04.320 Orwellian to have a new provision in the criminal code where you can be punished

00:15:09.580 for a crime that you might commit in future. Well, yeah. And I mean, there's a few things

00:15:15.380 we could cover on this bill, and that's probably the most odious of them all, but

00:15:19.060 it just seems so beyond the pale. I mean, I imagine the second, if that bill passed as it is,

00:15:26.160 and if somebody was essentially restrained on a potential thought crime, lawyers such as yourself

00:15:34.500 and others would be in there within seconds to challenge that in the courts. I mean,

00:15:38.260 would a judge hold that up? It just seems that they've crossed the line too far for even the

00:15:42.680 most liberal of judges to support. Well, it's the fear factor. And the online harms bill,

00:15:48.360 if passed in its current form, or even if passed with some of the worst provisions removed,

00:15:55.660 it's going to get most Canadians to self-censor. You and I and a number of other people would

00:16:01.520 probably just continue on our merry way and speak our minds. But for a lot of other people,

00:16:05.980 if the public advocacy is not your your full-time job a lot of other canadians will fear getting

00:16:11.600 even an anonymous complaint is allowed under the online harms act so that you don't have a right

00:16:19.300 to face your accuser or question your accuser or have your lawyer ask questions of your accuser

00:16:24.920 or even know who your accuser is that's a provision allowing for anonymous complaints

00:16:30.580 So you could have somebody in Vancouver that sees something online posted by a woman in Nova Scotia who is making some disparaging remarks about a mosque in Toronto.

00:16:41.800 And even if the members of that mosque in Toronto are not offended by the comment, this complaint could go ahead anonymously against this woman in Nova Scotia.

00:16:50.120 And then she's at the mercy of a human rights commission that's going to decide subjectively whether or not she said something hateful.

00:16:58.700 And if convicted, she could be ordered to pay up to $50,000 to the federal government.

00:17:05.080 And in addition to that, pay up to $20,000 to the members of the mosque in Toronto.

00:17:12.520 So these are draconian powers.

00:17:16.260 It's even worse than what we had previously with the Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act.

00:17:24.640 Well, it's good. I was going to bring up Section 13.

00:17:26.980 And yes, it was like the commissions overstepped so grossly, so badly about 10, 15 years ago that, you know, Prime Minister of the time, Harper, later on was able to get Section 13 out of there, which was just too broad.

00:17:41.100 And people were getting abused by these commissions.

00:17:43.040 I mean, you don't have, as you said, the remedies that you would in a regular courtroom.

00:17:46.560 These things were turning into kangaroo courts.

00:17:48.100 I mean, the former owner of the original Western Standard, Ezra Levant, had published those cartoons in it and was brought before the Human Rights Commission.

00:17:56.780 no criminal charges, just these commissions. And this bill looks like it's going to empower

00:18:01.640 these commissions back to where they were and maybe even further. So as you said, it'll be

00:18:06.620 chilling and we should all be very worried. Well, it's important for people to contact

00:18:10.840 their member of parliament. You could argue that it's even more important if your member of

00:18:16.480 parliament is liberal or NDP, because they've got the majority to get this through. But contrary to

00:18:22.140 what some people think uh mps do listen if they get a lot of phone calls and a lot of emails on

00:18:28.380 an issue and they're worried about their re-election it's gonna uh make make for some

00:18:33.820 changes within those two parties uh because they do have the majority in the house uh the other

00:18:38.720 thing we're doing to fight back is we have an online petition which as of right now has just

00:18:44.020 shy of 50 000 signatures we're going to look for another 50 000 signatures in the weeks ahead and

00:18:50.980 those will be delivered to the Prime Minister's office in Ottawa in April so people can find us

00:18:56.300 at www.jccf.ca and please sign the petition. The other really worrisome thing is that this

00:19:08.100 legislation gives powers to the federal cabinet to create censorship regulations that will apply to

00:19:15.900 all social media services in Canada. And then there will be the creation of a digital safety

00:19:23.380 commission. Watch out for things that have the word safety in them. During the French Revolution,

00:19:28.200 it was the Committee for Public Safety that chopped off the heads of thousands of people.

00:19:33.980 So we're going to have a digital safety commission to enforce those regulations. And those regulations

00:19:40.000 will be made in secret by the federal cabinet without any input from Parliament.

00:19:46.520 Yeah, this stuff is just going down the realm of crazy train. And this bill, I looked at it,

00:19:50.820 I mean, it has hundreds of pages. Unfortunately, it's like an omnibus piece. It's got a lot

00:19:54.500 packed in there, most of it bad. Another part that I saw was some of the penalties they're

00:20:00.480 proposing are, again, just beyond the pale. This bill outright prescribes as much as a life

00:20:06.040 sentence, which we can't even get from murderers quite often in this country, but a life sentence

00:20:10.720 if somebody promotes genocide. And we're in the midst of a discussion of, I mean, some people say

00:20:16.500 that if you say that Israel has the right to defend itself, you're supporting genocide. Or

00:20:21.100 if you deny that there's bodies buried in Kamloops, you support genocide. So by theory,

00:20:27.400 you're putting yourself at risk of a life sentence. Again, isn't this the sort of thing

00:20:31.080 that most judges would say, look, we can't apply a sentence this heavy on such a relatively minor

00:20:37.920 offense, if indeed it's an offense. Well, currently the criminal code provides for a maximum penalty

00:20:44.300 of five years in jail for publicly advocating for genocide. So they want to increase that from a

00:20:51.300 five-year maximum to life in prison as the maximum. Consider the fact that currently the criminal code

00:20:58.520 for sexually assaulting a minor under the age of 16, the maximum penalty is 14 years in prison.

00:21:06.720 So it seems like the federal cabinet thinks that advocating for genocide,

00:21:12.440 warranting potentially life imprisonment is worse than raping a child, which would get you a maximum

00:21:19.100 of 14 years in prison. I mean, the priorities are just skewed. And something else they did

00:21:25.060 politically, though, I mean, when I and I noticed they put it at the top of the bill, when I started

00:21:29.240 reading the bill, at first, it didn't seem quite so bad. Okay, they're talking about bringing in

00:21:33.540 some more stuff to go after people who were hosting child porn. Okay, everybody's disgusted

00:21:37.740 with that. I can support going after those perverts. And further, you know, going, but the 0.99

00:21:42.900 problem is, once you get past that, that's where they drop all of the rest of the garbage into this

00:21:47.600 bill. Do you think maybe it's possible to, you know, clip off the first few pages of this bill

00:21:52.460 and pass it and then just get rid of all the rest? Well, the things that the Online Harms Act

00:21:58.720 claims to address are already criminal. So for example, posting revenge porn online is currently

00:22:06.660 already a criminal code offense. Posting an intimate image of somebody without their consent

00:22:12.400 is a criminal offense. The willful promotion of hatred is a criminal offense. Advocating for

00:22:18.780 genocide is a criminal offense. Advocating for violence or terrorism or the violent overthrow

00:22:24.320 of the government of Canada is already a criminal offense. Encouraging anybody to violate the

00:22:32.920 criminal code is already a criminal offense in and of itself. If I tell you, Corey, you should

00:22:38.240 go shoplifting tomorrow, and if I was serious about it, I've already committed a crime.

00:22:42.700 So this is just adding on a thick layer of vague human rights laws to further chill speech when the problems, which are real, are already being addressed by the Criminal Code of Canada.

00:22:58.840 Yeah, well, and it takes away from people committing real crimes.

00:23:01.740 I mean, if we're using our resources, going after some ding-dong who posted something offensive on social media somewhere. 1.00

00:23:07.480 Meanwhile, we do have some people that might be standing on a street corner, you know, trying to scream and gather people to assault or harm an identifiable group.

00:23:16.120 I mean, we only have so many resources to track them down.

00:23:18.140 I mean, there are real crimes out there, but, you know, we're spreading this so thin, going after anybody and everybody who says something online, we're going to run out of resources to get the real criminals.

00:23:26.220 Yeah, this builds on the prior bills, Bill C11 and C18. And it's a gradual government takeover

00:23:34.140 of the internet. And it's a step by step by step. This online harms bill, in my view,

00:23:40.840 it's not just a step in the wrong direction. It's a great leap in the wrong direction. And

00:23:46.660 it's going to do more to harm our freedom of expression than the prior bills, C11 and C18,

00:23:53.860 which are a little bit more subtle and indirect, but they're also a threat to our free expression.

00:24:00.620 Well, so this bill has been tabled. Now, there are some people saying, though, I mean, the way

00:24:04.760 the government works and how fast it works is the chances of this bill getting all three readings

00:24:08.580 and then royal assent and through the Senate by the time the next election's held are pretty slim.

00:24:13.420 And we shouldn't have to rely on this thing dying on the order paper, but if the government's in a

00:24:18.480 hurry, they can get this thing through fast if they want to, right? Well, you and I have seen

00:24:22.040 this many times both both provincially and federally when a government is hell-bent on

00:24:27.520 getting a certain bill through they will bang bang bang first reading second reading third reading

00:24:32.760 and they will use their majority to uh cut off uh debate they will use their majority to see to it

00:24:40.520 that that there is not a parliamentary hearings which is normal with with many many bills uh you've

00:24:47.480 got an all-party committee of MPs that reflects the composition of the House of Commons, and you

00:24:54.340 have witnesses, you have testimony, and you have, you know, the way it should be, a very thoughtful

00:24:59.180 process with plenty of opportunity for public participation. Hopefully, the government will

00:25:05.100 allow that, but if they choose not to, they could rush this through in 48 to 72 hours if they wanted

00:25:11.620 to. So it's really crucial for people to contact their MP immediately by phone or email, uh, sign

00:25:18.160 the petition and spread the word. Yeah. Well, and, and, uh, you know, this sort of thing, I mean,

00:25:24.780 I can already see how they're politically framing it. I mean, in putting the anti-child porn stuff

00:25:29.620 at the top, as soon as anybody comes out in opposition to this bill, they're going to turn

00:25:32.680 around and say, well, you support the publishing of images of minors online, you know, a pornographic

00:25:37.880 images. How dare you, you vile person. But I think the electorate maybe is finally starting 0.99

00:25:42.720 to see through this crap, aren't they? Well, I hope so. The other thing that's 0.99

00:25:47.040 already criminal is threats and intimidation. So part of what they bring forward is we have to

00:25:53.180 prevent nasty people on the internet from bullying children or from encouraging children to self-harm.

00:26:01.720 that too is already covered by existing laws and the other thing the bill completely forgets about

00:26:08.680 is that that a big part of the solution to children getting harmed online is for parents

00:26:13.220 to ensure that their kids are not glued to a computer screen or an iphone or a smartphone

00:26:19.820 whatever it's up to parents to make sure that to protect their children by not giving their

00:26:25.460 children unlimited and unsupervised access to the internet and social media. And that's a huge part

00:26:31.940 of the solution. But the government likes to pretend that, you know, parents are not big

00:26:37.660 players. So it's up to the government to be the big parent to look after these things, when really

00:26:43.260 the first part and the major part of the solution to protecting children from online harm lies with

00:26:49.500 the parents. I'm not saying we shouldn't also have appropriate criminal code provisions as we do,

00:26:55.460 but the big thing is for parents to assume responsibility for what their kids are seeing

00:27:01.180 online. Yeah I mean I don't this is a government that can't even get their own payroll system right

00:27:06.980 I don't want to entrust them with the ability or the task of raising our children they'll only

00:27:12.760 make a mess of it if anything they should be empowering parents and encouraging parents to

00:27:16.020 get in more involved in their children's you know growth and development I mean it's a tough task

00:27:21.300 going to a lot of opinions and that this just gets all the more intrusive. And when you take

00:27:26.420 responsibility away from others, it'll probably just make the problem worse. That's what's likely

00:27:30.980 to happen. Well, I guess before I let you go, so you're doing a petition with the JCCF. Are you,

00:27:37.060 have you guys, I guess you can't really challenge a bill that hasn't even been passed yet, but

00:27:40.820 have you got other actions planned aside from that? Or for now you're advocating kind of,

00:27:45.160 and just gathering the steam that hopefully you can shut this down in its tracks. But I imagine

00:27:50.000 And if the bill goes through, then you'll get to work on other things too.

00:27:53.360 Well, we will be, our team of lawyers and paralegals, as well as communication staff,

00:27:58.040 we will be submitting at least one brief, possibly more to the MPs outlining very specifically

00:28:04.720 why this legislation is harmful and how it unjustifiably violates the Canadian Charter

00:28:11.700 of Rights and Freedoms.

00:28:13.500 And yes, we are looking at, once it's proclaimed into force, we would look for the weakest, the worst provisions, particularly the one about preemptive punishment of people who have committed no crime.

00:28:28.860 That is one that we would seriously consider taking to court immediately, even before the harm comes from it.

00:28:40.180 Great. Well, I guess before I let you go, then, you know, I know you guys do a lot more.

00:28:44.540 You've had a lot of actions over the years and you've done a lot of great things with your organization, with the, you know, standing up for our constitutional freedoms, as is in the name of your organization.

00:28:53.040 So where can people find it to take part in the petition or donate?

00:28:58.100 I see one of our commenters saying he's a monthly donor for you guys and a lot of people really appreciate your work.

00:29:03.120 Well, we do rely entirely on voluntary donations from Canadians.

00:29:06.880 and we're a registered charity.

00:29:08.520 We issue official tax receipts.

00:29:10.800 Donations can be made online at www.jccf.ca.

00:29:16.080 And there's a snail mail address there.

00:29:17.820 If you want to mail in a check,

00:29:18.900 we happily accept those as well.

00:29:21.220 Great.

00:29:21.660 Well, thank you very much for coming on today

00:29:23.300 to talk to us, John,

00:29:24.360 and for the work you guys are doing.

00:29:26.160 Let's hope maybe this thing just gets put to rest.

00:29:29.100 But I mean, if we aren't on guard,

00:29:30.360 we know that we can see that this government

00:29:32.060 wants to slip these things through.

00:29:33.440 So it's going to be an ongoing fight.

00:29:35.600 Well, thanks for having me on your show, Corey.

00:29:37.280 Great. I hope we can talk again soon, John. Thanks.

00:29:40.540 So just one more time, that is John Carpe with the Justice Center for Constitutional Freedoms.

00:29:44.840 And yes, they're doing very important work and they do need support.

00:29:48.500 These guys are funded by donors and they're standing up for some very, very important rights.

00:29:53.200 And this bill is just, again, it's beyond the pale.

00:29:55.420 You know, I mean, I'm a pretty cynical guy.

00:29:57.120 I tend to expect the worst out of government.

00:30:00.700 And still they managed to surprise me with how far they will go.

00:30:04.720 this is a government obsessed with controlling our communications, with controlling our speech,

00:30:09.780 with controlling our actions. This is an authoritarian government. You know, people

00:30:14.500 talk about it's the left, it's the right. I, you know, yeah, tend to lean one way or another,

00:30:18.940 but the bigger, it's not the conservatism or the socialism or the leftism or rightism. It's

00:30:23.680 the authoritarianism you should be afraid of, folks. That's the one. It doesn't matter whether

00:30:28.460 it's right or left. If the government's got control of your life, you're in trouble. And

00:30:32.800 this is how they do it. They do it incrementally. They do it through bills like this. And this bill

00:30:37.640 is something else. If a bill this bad can get through, we're in far worse trouble than I even

00:30:42.920 imagined. And, you know, I'm raising the alarms quite often about trouble we're in. So again,

00:30:46.760 let's, you know, thanks to John and others who are out there working to, because we do have a

00:30:50.200 court system. We have remedies to try and push back and fight these things. And it's very important.

00:30:55.240 All right. You know, a guest I've had on a couple of times before, I've seen him on the news lately,

00:30:59.240 Don Sharp, you might remember him. He's a retired paramedic, fantastic guy. And he's really been

00:31:06.300 advocating and lobbying, you know, to try and reform Alberta's paramedic system, because it's

00:31:11.520 a mess. You know, we have a lot of stuff going on. And as much as Premier Smith has even talked

00:31:16.460 about a lot of solutions, you know, to end the hallway care, to end the wasteful use of ambulances

00:31:21.120 for non-urgent patient transfers and everything, it seems like the powers that be are dragging

00:31:26.540 their feet. They're fighting this. They're, you know, trying to keep change from coming through

00:31:32.440 and Don's keeping the pressure on. And hopefully, you know, I think part of the problem is the

00:31:36.140 provincial government wants to move on this, but they got their irons in a hundred fires. They're

00:31:39.660 having trouble keeping up, but we're looking at some of these numbers. I mean, it's 2023. So this

00:31:43.440 is during the time of the UCP government, you know, can't blame this on Notley or even Kenny so much.

00:31:47.700 The Calgary rural zone. That's where I live. I live just outside of Calgary and Prittis

00:31:51.260 and our ambulance is almost never in Prittis because it's always being pulled into Calgary

00:31:56.820 to do Calgarian services. And often those are doing non-urgent patient transfers. That means

00:32:01.840 the patient isn't in an emergency situation. They're moving them from a hospital to a care

00:32:06.280 center or a hospital to a hospital. And, you know, a lot of these, a lot of these could actually be

00:32:12.380 done in taxis, to be honest, but everybody's so liability averse that, oh, we can't do that. What

00:32:16.300 if the person, you know, gets ill on route. But also we do not need a fully, you know, staffed

00:32:22.980 truck with paramedics tied up for a non-urgent patient transfer, much less stealing them from

00:32:28.020 the rural areas. And it's still happening. We've been talking about it. One of the solutions was

00:32:32.040 talking about having other private providers, you know, use ambulances. And I mean, different,

00:32:38.400 you know, there's still skilled trained people for these patient transfers. So we can keep the

00:32:42.180 other AHS ambulances on the road for the emergencies, for the car accidents, for the dog

00:32:46.240 maulings, and all the other things that they, so important work that they do. Yet in 2023, 1178

00:32:52.920 times rural ambulances were pulled away to do non-urgent patient transfers, which meant we had

00:32:59.760 no ambulance coverage. You know, there was no ambulance available because they're in Calgary

00:33:03.280 doing a non-urgent one. And these companies, they're very good. I mean, one is Aaron Paramedical.

00:33:08.480 for whatever reason, their contract was just dropped to do these things. And I think they've

00:33:14.860 got an announcement coming soon. There's one other company they might approve because what they did

00:33:18.240 is say, okay, we'll allow these private providers to come in and do these non, you know, patient

00:33:21.840 transfers and some other services. But then they brought in all of these requirements, these

00:33:26.120 ridiculous requirements, they have to take part in the dispatch system and all this other junk

00:33:30.720 when it seriously, you can use a cell phone system nowadays to do that, to keep them out of 0.98

00:33:36.240 They're baffling with BS is what they're doing. It's pure bureaucratic garbage where they're 0.98

00:33:42.120 regulating this out of existence. And it's wrong. And we're all getting worse service for it. So I 0.99

00:33:50.300 just wanted to bring it up. I'm going to talk to Don, I think down the road pretty soon. We'll see

00:33:53.880 where this is going because there's more announcements coming. And this is very important.

00:33:56.700 It's an aspect of healthcare that's really quite immediately fixable. We can really fix this one

00:34:03.040 up fairly fast and fairly easily if we could just get into that bureaucracy, find out who these

00:34:08.660 gatekeepers are, push them aside, and force these changes in. Got to get it done, as people are

00:34:14.880 literally dying for waiting for ambulances when they shouldn't have to. All right, and yeah, so

00:34:20.200 this ongoing news, and that's really been kind of breaking today. Dave was talking about, you know,

00:34:23.480 how they were mentioned, they were described as middle-aged women who were vandalizing the 1.00

00:34:27.320 the Recall Gondek signs, you know, what else we call them. I like the term Herodon. If you want

00:34:33.080 to look that up, Herodon, it's a fantastic descriptive term for a nasty old gal. Because 1.00

00:34:40.100 again, these entitled, arrogant people, who do you think you are? You have the right to oppose 0.97

00:34:49.040 the Recall petition? Fine. But who the hell do you think you are to go out and boldly smirk while

00:34:55.900 vandalizing somebody else's property. You'd have not got that right. In fact, again, it shows why

00:35:02.640 old heritans like you should have no influence on power whatsoever. Your self-entitled old 1.00

00:35:08.240 crones, you should be at home with your cats cleaning urine instead of out on the streets 1.00

00:35:12.940 damaging the property of people doing a democratic exercise. That's getting back to what I'm talking

00:35:18.820 about. The establishment is terrified. People are standing up. They're getting to work. And I'll tell

00:35:22.900 you what, this is really quite interesting because look, and I've said it before, and I still believe

00:35:29.800 it. The recall Gondek thing, not a chance in hell this thing is going to go through. They need 514,000

00:35:36.000 signatures. I think they've only got about a week or two weeks left to get them. And it's just

00:35:41.660 physically impossible. To be honest, I will be surprised if they have over a hundred thousand.

00:35:46.740 I'm not trying to crap on the efforts of these guys. That's what's been impressive from them

00:35:51.840 though. They have been organizing. They've been sitting up all over the city. They've been

00:35:55.280 engaging people. But you see, that's what's got the establishment so terrified. They know this

00:36:01.340 petition isn't going to go through. But they also don't like the thought, holy cow, Calgarians are 0.97

00:36:06.280 getting up and doing something. And they're interacting. And they're practicing. And they're

00:36:11.420 engaging. And you know what they're doing? They're training. Because the next municipal election is

00:36:16.300 only a year and a half away. And these folks who, you know, who are working on this recall right

00:36:23.040 now, they're getting to know each other. You know, they're networking. Those are the ones that are

00:36:29.360 going to be on the ground campaigning next time around to get rid of Gondek in the real election, 0.52

00:36:33.840 not in a recall effort. So no, I'm not opposed to this recall thing. I think it's actually done a

00:36:38.300 lot of good in that it's really shaken up the establishment. I mean, they're sending their

00:36:42.300 little old biddies out to attack the signs now. They got Dwayne Bratt going on a big conspiracy.

00:36:47.300 Yes, yes, apparently there's other groups that have been involved. And there's not even other

00:36:52.960 groups. There's this weird document, a piece of paper that Dwayne Bratt found and CTV found it

00:36:57.680 worth on reporting on that showed an organizational list. It sounds like this group is trying to put

00:37:02.660 together an organization for municipal engagement, maybe the foundation of a municipal party down

00:37:09.740 the road. And some of the people's background happen to be with the Take Back Alberta. I think

00:37:14.420 Take Back Alberta has thousands of people who could identify as being a part of that group.

00:37:18.200 It doesn't mean they're controlled by David Parker or Take Back or Alberta or any of that.

00:37:22.680 But the conspiracies, oh dear, the conspiracies. There's groups behind this group. Yes, it's called

00:37:27.720 organization, you ask clowns. This isn't all that shocking. In fact, it's the way it's supposed to 0.98

00:37:33.020 work. But boy, it's got you scared, doesn't it? And that really says a lot. It really does.

00:37:39.420 So like, as I responded to CTV, because they put it out, oh, this recall isn't all it's expected

00:37:44.160 to be. There's groups behind it. Did they really think that the one and only guy, the lone guy who

00:37:50.900 started the ball rolling was going to do the whole thing by himself? Of course, groups are going to

00:37:55.500 get involved. Doesn't mean they're controlled. Doesn't mean it's nefarious. What else is going

00:38:00.140 to happen. So the groups are helping. So what? Boy, you're scared and you're sure implying things

00:38:06.180 as if there's some odd conspiracy. People wondering, I noticed a commenter, Valerie

00:38:12.140 Cooper saying, you know, have I had the fellow on who started this whole thing? No, I tried.

00:38:16.020 I booked him twice and he stood me up twice, actually. I don't think he did it out of malice.

00:38:20.940 I think he just did it out of irresponsibility and not knowing how to set an alarm on his phone,

00:38:25.580 whatever. I still applaud him for getting this ball rolling and everything. But again, if people

00:38:29.320 think this was some conspiratorial effort to have a giant political action going. I would think

00:38:36.020 that whoever headed this thing up would be somebody a little more politically experienced

00:38:43.200 and skilled than the one they have who's kind of been doing it so far. And I don't see that to be

00:38:49.100 the case, you know, if you're going to pull off stunts like that with friendly media outlets. But

00:38:53.500 either way, unfortunately, no, I tried speaking with them. It certainly didn't work. And well,

00:38:57.560 I wish them the best. But yeah, they're thinking there's conspiracies going on. I mean, that's the

00:39:01.700 Whisper campaign. The other thing, though, one concern that is a little bit valid, and this is

00:39:06.480 one of the things Gondek's been implying at SB Conheritance, and she's been talking along the

00:39:12.460 lines of saying, we don't know about the privacy of the people who put their names on those forms.

00:39:19.200 Okay, well, the petitioners are not supposed to use any of those signatures, any of that

00:39:26.500 information for anything else but this petition. And I've seen some people discussing that online,

00:39:32.400 oh, we should hang on to this so we can use it in the election. No, do not do that. Don't even

00:39:36.020 think of doing that. Don't take pictures of it. Don't make copies of it. That's not what it's for.

00:39:40.900 That would play right into Gondek's hands. If the people who signed that petition to recall

00:39:45.620 Gondek suddenly are getting phone calls from a political activist group a month from now,

00:39:49.660 two months from now, you really are going to see some problems. Use it only for this,

00:39:54.600 not for data mining. You want to data mine, you start an online petition. You go knocking door

00:39:59.800 to door and say, this is the purpose of me talking to you. I'd like to add you to a database to talk

00:40:04.340 further, but this petition can't be used for anything except this recall. So do not do it.

00:40:11.060 Don't give them an excuse. And again, this is just Gondek implying that the information on that

00:40:16.420 petition is going to be misappropriated and there's no evidence it has been or that it will

00:40:21.320 be. And it shows the low level of Gondek. It shows how scared she is though. Why are you even

00:40:25.420 addressing it? If it's nothing, why are you taking the time to talk about it? Because she's scared.

00:40:29.780 She's not scared of the petition too. I mean, she doesn't know how to do economics. That's clear,

00:40:33.900 but she knows enough math to know that a bunch of people are not going to get a hundred thousand

00:40:37.600 more signatures on an official petition than even voted in the last election. Jason Kenney made the

00:40:43.980 recall legislation garbage on purpose. It's an impossible barrier. We'll see how much they come

00:40:49.900 up with by the end of it. But the fact that people are on the ground organizing, that's got them

00:40:55.140 scared. And I think that's great. That's great. You want to make the politicians shake. I mean,

00:41:01.000 it isn't even, they don't even get this nervous when there's a big protest, you know, a bunch of

00:41:04.420 people waving signs outside of city hall or at a park or anything. No, that's, these are people

00:41:09.040 working on the ground, knocking on doors. These are people talking with each other. These are

00:41:12.780 people campaigning. That's got them frightened. And that should be applied more to our provincial

00:41:17.980 and federal politics too, guys. We can do better if we get off our butts. We do have the mechanisms. 0.98

00:41:23.440 We do. Our system has a lot of flaws, but it is still a democracy. And if we use the tools we've

00:41:28.800 got, we can make it a heck of a lot better. So these guys are doing a good job as far as that

00:41:33.280 goes. And it's got these clowns frightened, and I think it's fantastic. So we'll watch as this 0.93

00:41:37.900 continues to develop. We'll see what other kind of conspiracy theories Dwayne and CTV can come up

00:41:42.480 with. But it's not going to save this mayor. You know, again, in a year and a half, we're going to

00:41:49.280 have a municipal election. I hope there's a party in place or parties in place to really hit. It's

00:41:54.140 not just Gondek. She's got a few of those clowns on council. They're just terrible, terrible. And 0.99

00:41:58.820 it's not just Calgary. You know, again, so people say, why is Alberta so conservative in any other

00:42:03.480 way except municipally? Because we let it get that way. It's our own fault. It's fair enough. But now

00:42:08.780 there's people getting people off their butts and it's going to work. All right. Let's talk about 0.97

00:42:13.420 some of the other garbage, right? This is stuff coming from the Taxpayers Federation, COP28, 0.95

00:42:17.760 you know, the big climate gathering where they go to live in the lap of luxury, flying first class

00:42:22.120 across the world, burning more fuels in one week than most families could probably do in a year or

00:42:28.260 two. Each of them doing that much. So taxpayers, that one so far, they found $1.35 million. That's

00:42:34.360 what it cost us to fly a bunch of people over to hang out in Dubai and rub shoulders and rub

00:42:40.620 whatever else these guys rub on each other while they talk about how we're going to tax the world

00:42:44.640 into a better climate. And one of the bills within it was an $1,822 a night hotel room,

00:42:51.380 $1,822 a night. You know, two nights in that hotel is more than my typical full vacation budget.

00:42:58.340 yet somebody, they haven't said who yet. Somebody stayed in this 1,820. You would think they were

00:43:05.100 so busy at this thing. Would it matter? Did you really need an $1,800 room? I mean, you're so

00:43:09.720 important. All you need is a comfortable bed, don't you? These guys are robbing us, folks.

00:43:15.700 They're screwing us. And yes, the hypocrisy is galling. And this is what you work for. 0.99

00:43:21.320 This is what you pay extra at the pump for. This is what you pay GST for. This is what comes off

00:43:25.520 your paycheck for. So guys like this can stay in $1,800 a night hotel rooms and tell you what to

00:43:32.220 do because you're the bad one for daring to drive a car to work, to make money, to pay for this jerk. 1.00

00:43:39.140 Yeah, this country's broken. This is why we've got to get up and not just screaming and waving 1.00

00:43:43.280 signs on the street, but getting active in the political process. And as I said, we've got the

00:43:49.800 process there. And I just think it's great seeing people getting up and doing it. Let's see them do

00:43:53.900 bit more. Every province, every city, every, just do it. Get out there. We can make it work. We can

00:44:00.280 change it. Look what they're doing to us as a price for our apathy right now. Again, let's just

00:44:09.440 see how bad government is at running things. The Trans Mountain expansion line has been shut down

00:44:13.720 yet again. Yes, they found a red-tailed hawk near the line or a nest for a red-tailed hawk.

00:44:21.240 Now, people might not understand, red-tailed hawks are almost as common as sparrows.

00:44:25.740 They're everywhere.

00:44:26.680 They are not endangered in the slightest sort of way.

00:44:31.400 The nest, big deal.

00:44:33.080 They nest right next to farmhouses.

00:44:35.220 You can make a bit of noise.

00:44:36.240 It'll be fine.

00:44:36.760 But you know who found it?

00:44:37.500 It was an indigenous environmental monitor.

00:44:39.980 For those who've worked in the oil field, you know, and I hate to say it, but most of

00:44:42.900 these monitors you hire, you're just giving an elder a bunch of money to stand around

00:44:46.480 and feel better about himself so they stay out of your hair while you get the job done.

00:44:49.600 And unfortunately, once in a while, they feel like getting in there and trying to find something.

00:44:53.260 And this one came out and found evidence of a red-tailed hawk and shut down this multi-billion dollar pipeline again.

00:45:01.160 This thing's going to, it's just brutal what it's going to cost us by the time it's done.

00:45:05.500 Only government can run it this bad.

00:45:07.080 And just remember, as this thing's getting up to $40 billion in years past schedule,

00:45:10.340 we could have had this built for $4 billion, totally on private funds.

00:45:14.220 All Trudeau had to do is get out of the bloody way.

00:45:16.340 That's all he had to do.

00:45:17.640 But he couldn't do that.

00:45:18.600 governments, authoritarian governments, they can't leave it alone. They can't get out of the

00:45:21.920 way. They're incapable of it. All right. I'm going to get out of your way. That's all the time I've

00:45:26.520 got for today, guys. Be sure to tune in tonight. The pipeline will be on. We'll be breaking down

00:45:30.600 a few more issues and talking about many more things. And yeah, keep active, guys. Keep those

00:45:35.840 politicians accountable. Keep screaming and hollering at them. They need it. And keep tuning

00:45:41.240 in here. So thank you very much for tuning in today, guys. I'll see you next week at this time.

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CMS： Let’s get those municipal parties started!

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