Western Standard - CMS： Public sector unions must be reined in

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00:00:30.000 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show.

00:00:35.680 Coming out of Calgary, Alberta.

00:00:37.960 I didn't check the weather all the way across the country,

00:00:41.200 but I do know in Calgary it's beautiful out there today for a February day.

00:00:45.140 I still would like to eventually retire somewhere where it doesn't snow ever,

00:00:48.500 but for the time being I will be happy with how it's going out there right now.

00:00:52.840 Boy, it's been a nice one.

00:00:54.040 People can howl about global warming all day like.

00:00:56.240 I say bring it on. It's fine by me.

00:00:59.060 So yes, I got a good show ahead today, guys.

00:01:01.600 I got Nadine Wellwood.

00:01:03.060 She's going to come on and we're going to talk a bit about the Alberta pension plan.

00:01:06.620 I mean, other provinces should look at that too.

00:01:08.140 It's not gone away, though.

00:01:09.620 I think the government kind of didn't do really great in rolling it out

00:01:12.740 and they're kind of just putting it on the back burner for now,

00:01:15.080 which is too bad because it really is a concept that needs to go somewhere.

00:01:18.200 So we'll discuss that a little longer and see where it may be going.

00:01:22.400 Be sure to use the comment scroll, guys.

00:01:25.760 For those of you who are watching live, I see Wildrose there and others.

00:01:29.020 Throw me questions my way to my guests or just give statements or even chat with each other.

00:01:34.080 I like to see that activity.

00:01:35.280 Just, again, try to keep things fairly civil.

00:01:38.160 Now, I'll move away from being civil and move on to one of my favorite subjects,

00:01:41.480 and that's talking about public sector unions.

00:01:43.940 Yeah, that's a common topic with me because I'm tired of them.

00:01:48.140 I'm tired of a lot of the stuff they pull off.

00:01:49.900 Not the people within them necessarily, but the unions themselves.

00:01:54.080 So last week, the annual Calgary Teachers Convention was held.

00:01:58.020 Every public school in the city was closed for Thursday and Friday

00:02:00.700 as teachers gathered downtown, or at least ostensibly did.

00:02:03.900 There's nothing new, and most professions hold conventions.

00:02:07.000 That's fine.

00:02:07.560 Gatherings of working peers can be very productive

00:02:09.740 in keeping up with new trends and in sharing experiences.

00:02:12.120 I was curious about something, though, and I asked on X

00:02:15.060 why the Teachers Convention is scheduled in February just before a long weekend

00:02:19.820 when the event could be held at the beginning or the end of the school year

00:02:23.180 so the students aren't disrupted, you know, out of two more days of instruction.

00:02:26.560 I mean, the average teacher, average in Alberta, makes $82,000 a year.

00:02:30.060 Not bad coin, plus a lot of benefits.

00:02:32.200 The average Albertan salary who's not a teacher is about $70,000 a year.

00:02:35.820 But on top of that, teachers work 50 fewer days per year,

00:02:39.220 50 working days per year less than any other profession.

00:02:43.000 They get summer off, fall break, Christmas break, spring break, I don't know,

00:02:47.720 Arbor Day break, Ethel Merman's birthday break.

00:02:50.420 They're always off for one thing or another.

00:02:52.520 So is it unreasonable to ask them to set aside two days

00:02:55.180 during a non-instructional period for their convention?

00:02:58.440 Apparently that was unreasonable because the reaction to my question on X was nuclear.

00:03:02.300 His accounts flew out of the woodwork to call me, of course,

00:03:04.280 every name in the book and depicting all teachers as being living saints.

00:03:08.540 And I know there's a lot of great teachers and it's hard work.

00:03:11.200 But this is nothing new.

00:03:11.960 Whenever I'm critical of anything in healthcare or education,

00:03:14.580 a swarm of accounts, typically backed by unions,

00:03:17.140 comes into attack mode and comes after me.

00:03:19.600 That's how the unions, I mean, they know how to play social media.

00:03:22.240 But the discussion went on and hundreds of parents joined that thread on X, actually.

00:03:26.320 And despite the howls of the accounts decrying the question,

00:03:29.460 some parents are concerned too.

00:03:30.620 And taxpayers, they're wondering about the number of days teachers put in

00:03:34.140 along with the amount of instructional time our kids are getting.

00:03:37.100 But it's hard to have such a discussion due to the indignant raging

00:03:40.060 of the union accounts, unfortunately.

00:03:42.240 I mean, teachers have a tough and important job.

00:03:44.240 I don't think anybody denies that.

00:03:45.780 So do nurses for that matter. 1.00

00:03:47.280 But due to this, we should be subjecting those professions

00:03:49.540 to a high degree of scrutiny to ensure we're getting the most from them that we can.

00:03:54.300 We certainly compensate them well enough.

00:03:56.660 Unfortunately, the unions feel the opposite way.

00:03:58.420 They feel that they should shout down anybody questioning the system

00:04:01.220 or anybody working within it.

00:04:02.700 And they facilitate mediocrity within the process.

00:04:05.940 Nurses and teachers both enjoy very lucrative pension plans.

00:04:09.240 The taxpayers match contributions for them.

00:04:11.020 Hey, good on them.

00:04:11.620 That's what the collective bargaining is supposed to lead towards.

00:04:14.700 Why, though, are the unions directly opposing the efforts of common Albertans

00:04:17.700 to improve their own pension plan?

00:04:19.600 The average payout from the Canada pension plan for retired Canadians

00:04:22.980 is a paltry $758 a month.

00:04:26.200 Rest assured, teachers and nurses are receiving much more than that when they retire.

00:04:30.820 Despite their being generously covered in retirement,

00:04:32.780 the unions are spending dues from members to fight the possible creation

00:04:36.400 of an Alberta pension plan.

00:04:37.580 The Alberta Nurses Union gave $200,000 in members' dues

00:04:41.820 to the Alberta Federation of Labor specifically for the AFL

00:04:46.120 to fight against Albertans who are seeking a better pension plan.

00:04:49.320 Why do the unions oppose pension improvements for common citizens?

00:04:53.060 Well, the bottom line is the unions don't care whatsoever

00:04:54.980 about the fate of common citizens.

00:04:56.140 They only care about union workers.

00:04:58.120 And they want this financial state for non-union workers

00:05:00.820 to be as miserable as possible

00:05:02.220 because they're hoping those people will either join unions or form new ones.

00:05:06.620 Private sector union membership's been falling for decades

00:05:09.160 and the public sector unions are trying to spur a union membership revival

00:05:12.880 by stifling public pension plan reforms.

00:05:15.860 It really does expose how self-serving public service unions are.

00:05:19.720 Not all workers are equal.

00:05:21.000 They have variable degrees of talent and work ethic.

00:05:22.940 Some teachers are worth twice what they're making now.

00:05:25.280 And come on, let's face it, some are just mailing it in.

00:05:27.500 They should probably be kicked out and into a different profession.

00:05:30.200 Separating the good from the bad is impossible in a union environment, however.

00:05:33.660 Those who work hard eventually burn out

00:05:35.380 as they watch the lazy standing next to them getting the same compensation.

00:05:39.080 There's little incentive to go above and beyond whatever you have for duty.

00:05:43.060 Only through reducing the near-monopoly status of healthcare and education

00:05:46.180 are we going to be able to reform these services

00:05:47.700 and get the best we can out of them for citizens.

00:05:50.440 Non-union options need to be available for teachers and nurses to work within.

00:05:54.940 So organized labor must compete actually to get the members themselves.

00:05:58.680 Rather than forcing them into an organization in closed shops,

00:06:01.340 patients and parents should be able to choose

00:06:03.180 between non-union schools and medical services as well.

00:06:06.340 Allowing labor and consumer choice, of course, terrifies unions.

00:06:09.720 Which says a lot, doesn't it?

00:06:10.680 They know what we would do if we had a choice.

00:06:12.780 They're collectivists, though.

00:06:13.860 And compensation based on merit goes against everything they stand for.

00:06:16.800 The unions are there for the unions,

00:06:18.140 and they will fight tooth and nail

00:06:19.660 to maintain their stranglehold on segments of the workforce.

00:06:23.000 Look, there's many great workers in the public sector,

00:06:25.360 but there's a bunch of bums in there, too.

00:06:27.060 And until the public sector unions are disempowered,

00:06:29.200 taxpayers are never going to get full value in return

00:06:31.040 for what's taken from their hard-earned paychecks.

00:06:32.780 The unions know this.

00:06:34.140 That's why they are trying to shut down

00:06:35.540 even the most reasonable of critiques of workers.

00:06:38.160 It's not enough.

00:06:40.200 You know, it's not going to be until citizens know

00:06:42.240 what's going on and speak up.

00:06:44.480 The politicians are going to pay attention.

00:06:45.740 The politicians are terrified of unions, too.

00:06:48.320 The Daniel Smith government is prepared for reforms,

00:06:50.280 but they need to know the populations behind them.

00:06:52.660 So make sure to get up there and speak up, guys.

00:06:54.660 Things can be better, but you've got to take on those unions.

00:06:57.420 They won't get better until that happens.

00:06:59.340 All right, that's what's got me wound up today.

00:07:01.140 Let's see what else is going on out there in the big bad world

00:07:04.480 and check in with our news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:07:06.460 Hey there, Dave. What's going on today?

00:07:09.240 Oh, tons, Corey, but I've got to wish you a happy birthday first.

00:07:12.820 Oh, thanks. Yeah, I got a little older.

00:07:15.240 You only turned 30 once.

00:07:16.740 Something like that.

00:07:18.660 No birthday cards from teachers, I imagine.

00:07:22.540 No, I don't think so.

00:07:23.900 I think I'll be getting dead roses in the mail

00:07:25.440 or something like that.

00:07:26.740 So I've got a question for you.

00:07:28.180 I was reading something on the internet the other day

00:07:32.100 and, you know, whatever's on the internet has to be factually accurate.

00:07:36.140 Well, of course.

00:07:36.720 And they're claiming to you're worth $5 million.

00:07:41.120 Oh, yeah, you saw that, eh?

00:07:43.140 Come on, man.

00:07:44.780 Oh, well, you got to negotiate a better deal with Derek, you know?

00:07:47.560 I mean, yeah, I don't know.

00:07:51.500 I mean, as I said in response when I saw that

00:07:53.620 when somebody pulled it up off one of those celeb wiki sites,

00:07:56.340 I must have misplaced it.

00:07:57.960 Maybe it's in my other pants or at the other mansion

00:07:59.760 because I can't find that $5 million.

00:08:03.020 Oh, man.

00:08:04.580 I don't know.

00:08:05.440 You're buying lunch next time.

00:08:07.540 Oh, well, I'll see what I can do.

00:08:08.960 Yeah, we've had a really busy morning, Corey.

00:08:12.400 Lots of really good stories up there.

00:08:14.660 Right now we're leading off with an interview

00:08:17.000 Prime Minister Trudeau gave with Ryan Jesperson this morning,

00:08:21.480 and he just shreds Danielle Smith and her government,

00:08:25.300 says Albertans are being fooled by right-wing stuff,

00:08:31.360 says Smith was ripping off oil sands employees

00:08:36.200 by not helping out with climate change,

00:08:40.660 and says, quote, unquote,

00:08:43.400 it's not us Eastern bastards.

00:08:46.580 So some very strong stuff by Trudeau there.

00:08:51.820 Another sign of what a joke the Canadian justice system is,

00:08:56.400 serial killer Robert Pinkton,

00:08:58.360 who 26 women I believe he killed at his pig farm 0.98

00:09:02.280 just outside Vancouver.

00:09:03.700 He's up for date parole tomorrow.

00:09:06.200 Don't like his chances,

00:09:07.640 but, you know, the fact that he can get it

00:09:10.640 is just ridiculous.

00:09:13.980 The Toronto School Board has released a new booklet

00:09:16.360 on their core belief statements,

00:09:20.460 and it's rife with anti-white, anti-colonialist stuff

00:09:25.480 that no doubt will get your blood flowing.

00:09:29.960 Noted columnist John Robson has pitched in today

00:09:32.960 talking about the intellectual assault

00:09:35.520 on the Canadian military

00:09:37.480 and how it's being drastically weakened.

00:09:41.820 Dr. Phil was on Joe Rogan yesterday

00:09:45.160 talking about how transgendered surgery

00:09:48.560 for children is wrong.

00:09:50.880 The poor guy trying to do the recall,

00:09:55.320 Mayor Gondek petition in Calgary

00:09:57.280 has been banned from all city buildings

00:09:59.860 like libraries and city halls.

00:10:02.920 So we've got a brief interview with him

00:10:04.320 and there'll be more to come

00:10:06.840 with that story this afternoon.

00:10:10.760 And if you're a small business owner,

00:10:12.840 you're not going to be getting as much back

00:10:14.640 in carbon tax rebates

00:10:16.560 as the Trudeau government has clawed that back.

00:10:23.240 6.30 tonight, Nigel,

00:10:25.460 the Premier Smith is giving an address

00:10:27.720 to the province on her future plans

00:10:32.640 and we'll have full coverage

00:10:35.920 shortly after she starts speaking.

00:10:38.780 Right on.

00:10:39.700 That is quite a bit on the go there.

00:10:41.480 You guys have been quite busy through this week.

00:10:43.660 At least we don't have to search

00:10:44.800 and scrape for stories.

00:10:46.020 It's just a matter of trying to pick the top ones

00:10:47.760 and get them up there.

00:10:48.840 Exactly.

00:10:49.340 You got to triage the news of the day.

00:10:52.140 Right on.

00:10:52.780 Well, thank you for the update.

00:10:54.120 I'll let you get back to sifting

00:10:55.680 and triaging with it

00:10:57.140 and I will talk to you after the show.

00:10:59.420 Yeah, I understand we're on the pipeline together.

00:11:01.320 So we'll see you then.

00:11:02.400 You bet.

00:11:02.880 All right.

00:11:03.200 Thanks, Dave.

00:11:03.980 Thank you, Corey.

00:11:05.220 That is our news editor, Dave Naylor.

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00:11:45.240 Come on, look at the legacy media.

00:11:46.640 It's repugnant.

00:11:48.020 All right.

00:11:48.580 Yeah.

00:11:48.880 And look at some of these things,

00:11:49.840 you know, you don't hear about.

00:11:51.300 And so, yeah, here we go with,

00:11:52.500 you know what, to give credit where I do,

00:11:54.700 there's Ryan Jesperson.

00:11:56.300 He was a former radio host in Edmonton.

00:11:58.620 He's got an online show similar to this

00:12:00.700 up in Edmonton.

00:12:01.360 Sort of a counterside to me.

00:12:02.540 He's quite liberal.

00:12:03.740 And he had Justin Trudeau on,

00:12:05.300 which says a great deal about where he stands

00:12:07.280 on things.

00:12:07.720 But Dave mentioned that.

00:12:09.680 And, you know, it's independent media as well.

00:12:11.760 I have no idea if he takes any tax dollars.

00:12:13.940 But, hey, good on him.

00:12:15.460 The more outlets, the better,

00:12:17.360 the more the merrier,

00:12:18.380 even if you don't agree with the editorial slant

00:12:20.260 of some of them.

00:12:21.200 But Trudeau got on there.

00:12:22.580 And, yes, he ripped into Smith,

00:12:24.760 basically saying that Albertans are getting fooled

00:12:28.160 by right-wing politicians.

00:12:30.580 You like that attitude out of him, right?

00:12:32.280 Basically, what he's saying

00:12:34.460 is you're too stupid to vote, liberal. 0.92

00:12:37.820 You're too dumb to see through

00:12:39.300 what's clearly BS from Smith

00:12:41.280 when the liberals are offering you

00:12:42.880 such a good choice.

00:12:45.680 How dare you get fooled

00:12:46.820 by these right-wing politicians?

00:12:49.040 Talk about a slap in the face, you know,

00:12:50.680 because that's when he's saying

00:12:51.540 you're being fooled by them.

00:12:52.560 He's saying you're too dumb

00:12:53.280 to see through something.

00:12:54.840 Brilliant, Justin.

00:12:55.760 Good work.

00:12:56.260 You're certainly going to be winning

00:12:57.440 more seats here in Alberta for it.

00:13:00.140 But all the same, Premier Smith,

00:13:01.780 I mean, whatever she may be,

00:13:03.180 she's not afraid of, you know,

00:13:06.600 having conversations with the politicians

00:13:08.240 or standing up to them.

00:13:10.060 And her offices responded.

00:13:11.940 They tried to reach out

00:13:12.740 since Trudeau was in Edmonton

00:13:15.000 to glad hand and offer to, you know,

00:13:18.780 give us some more of our tax money back

00:13:20.200 to try and build houses

00:13:20.960 that we're not keeping up with

00:13:21.840 because of the mass immigration 0.69

00:13:22.880 Trudeau's got on the go.

00:13:24.620 Said, hey, we can get together

00:13:26.740 for a chat while you're here.

00:13:28.040 We'll have a tea.

00:13:28.900 We'll see what we can find

00:13:29.940 for common ground.

00:13:30.820 Well, no, no,

00:13:31.780 Trudeau wouldn't meet with her.

00:13:33.100 All he wants to do is hide

00:13:34.480 on those little shows

00:13:35.460 and lob his little turds 0.92

00:13:36.920 over the wall at them

00:13:38.080 and not have to defend himself

00:13:39.480 or respond to those things.

00:13:41.560 But as Dave said,

00:13:42.360 it is interesting.

00:13:43.380 It showed more knowledge

00:13:45.480 of Western history

00:13:46.160 than I would have credited

00:13:47.480 Trudeau with to begin with

00:13:48.980 when he did say that,

00:13:50.980 he said, right-wing ideology

00:13:52.160 is getting in the way

00:13:52.720 of Alberta's success right now.

00:13:54.740 Really?

00:13:55.460 Alberta's the most successful

00:13:56.240 province in the country,

00:13:57.840 you peckerhead. 0.95

00:13:58.620 We've got a balanced budget.

00:14:00.440 We're reducing our debt.

00:14:01.500 People are moving

00:14:02.180 from across the country

00:14:03.560 to Alberta in record numbers.

00:14:06.140 And you're saying

00:14:06.740 this is getting in the way

00:14:07.780 of our success?

00:14:08.800 Think harder, Justin.

00:14:09.980 But he did say,

00:14:10.960 it's not a plot

00:14:12.160 by Eastern Bastards.

00:14:13.920 Now, the Eastern Bastards 0.95

00:14:14.840 reference goes all the way

00:14:15.760 back to the Klein days 0.99

00:14:16.640 in a bumper sticker

00:14:17.360 that used to say,

00:14:18.340 let the Eastern Bastards 0.99

00:14:19.280 freeze in the dark.

00:14:20.200 It was a national energy

00:14:21.440 program thing as well.

00:14:22.700 So, and as somebody,

00:14:25.120 at least, you know,

00:14:25.500 that was going after

00:14:26.360 Justin's da-da.

00:14:27.640 But some things don't change,

00:14:29.340 I guess, you know,

00:14:29.860 50 years later

00:14:30.740 and we still despise

00:14:32.020 the Trudeaus

00:14:32.560 and they still come here

00:14:33.600 and basically give us

00:14:35.180 the middle finger.

00:14:36.040 So Justin came out

00:14:36.760 to tell us we're all

00:14:37.740 too stupid to understand

00:14:39.060 how to vote

00:14:39.640 for what's good for us.

00:14:41.400 And yet, our economy,

00:14:44.480 as far as compared

00:14:45.700 to the rest of the country,

00:14:46.680 is doing very, very well

00:14:48.960 despite Trudeau,

00:14:50.280 not because of Trudeau.

00:14:51.820 So, yeah, keep coming out, Justin.

00:14:53.780 Keep up the good work.

00:14:55.520 We'll see if we can't

00:14:56.620 get rid of every liberal

00:14:58.080 in the West

00:14:59.100 in the next election.

00:15:00.520 There's still a couple

00:15:01.500 hanging in there

00:15:02.420 like some sort of

00:15:03.740 political dingleberries

00:15:04.640 that are just difficult

00:15:05.420 to comb out.

00:15:06.160 But with enough effort,

00:15:06.940 we can get rid of them.

00:15:08.320 All right, enough of my

00:15:09.400 ranting and raving

00:15:09.940 about Justin.

00:15:10.520 Let's get on to

00:15:11.140 some other ranting

00:15:12.080 and raving with a different face.

00:15:13.100 We've got Nadine Wellwood

00:15:14.020 on deck.

00:15:14.600 She's going to come in.

00:15:15.140 We're going to talk a bit

00:15:15.860 about distancing ourselves

00:15:17.460 from Central Canada

00:15:18.580 and the concept

00:15:20.720 of setting up

00:15:21.300 an Alberta pension plan.

00:15:22.460 That was a big issue

00:15:23.560 for a while

00:15:24.200 when the study came out,

00:15:25.960 but it seems to have

00:15:26.680 kind of quieted down,

00:15:27.700 but it's not gone

00:15:28.460 and it's still worth

00:15:29.860 talking about.

00:15:30.460 Hi, Nadine.

00:15:30.940 Thanks for joining us today.

00:15:32.300 Hey, Corey.

00:15:33.140 What an introduction.

00:15:34.420 Thank you.

00:15:35.420 Oh, no problem.

00:15:36.620 Yeah, I got my rant on today.

00:15:37.940 Well, I'll tell you,

00:15:40.440 it makes it really easy

00:15:41.400 to talk about something

00:15:42.360 like an Alberta pension plan

00:15:43.760 when Trudeau just keeps

00:15:44.800 coming out with announcements

00:15:45.860 and, as you just explained,

00:15:48.340 interviews like that one.

00:15:50.360 Well, yeah, it does show

00:15:51.360 that, you know,

00:15:51.780 the central government

00:15:52.660 doesn't have our interest

00:15:53.920 at heart,

00:15:54.480 no matter what they might claim.

00:15:56.000 And they don't think

00:15:56.800 terribly highly of us,

00:15:58.040 at least not under

00:15:59.000 Trudeau's leadership

00:15:59.820 right now, that's for sure.

00:16:01.600 And, you know,

00:16:02.380 is it so unreasonable?

00:16:03.600 Is it so selfish?

00:16:04.520 Is it so nasty

00:16:05.300 for Alberta to want

00:16:06.240 perhaps to set up

00:16:07.640 their own pension plan

00:16:08.680 where, you know,

00:16:09.240 and perhaps make a better one

00:16:10.580 than what's existing

00:16:11.480 in the CPP,

00:16:12.480 just like Quebec does?

00:16:13.300 I don't hear them going

00:16:14.360 and telling Quebecers

00:16:15.160 they're too stupid

00:16:15.680 to know what's good for them.

00:16:16.940 Well, you don't hear Quebec

00:16:18.120 crying to get back

00:16:19.140 into the Canada pension plan either.

00:16:21.080 So I think it goes both ways.

00:16:24.340 Yeah, so, I mean,

00:16:25.360 as I kind of said

00:16:27.520 to start with,

00:16:28.360 you know,

00:16:28.880 I'll let you kind of expand on it.

00:16:30.640 The plan came into the fore.

00:16:32.660 It sounded like

00:16:33.280 the Smith government

00:16:33.900 wanted to move with this.

00:16:35.320 The, you know,

00:16:37.020 the study came out

00:16:38.140 showing what potentially

00:16:39.140 the province might be owed

00:16:40.340 as far as any assets

00:16:41.640 of the Canada pension plan are.

00:16:43.480 But it really just seemed

00:16:44.480 to kind of blow up.

00:16:45.280 I mean, there was

00:16:45.660 a lot of opposition immediately,

00:16:48.040 which wasn't unexpected

00:16:49.040 from, you know,

00:16:49.700 mainstream media,

00:16:50.600 opposition parties and so on.

00:16:51.720 But it seems like

00:16:52.380 the Smith government

00:16:53.420 kind of took their foot off the gas

00:16:54.620 and they're moving on

00:16:55.160 to other things for now.

00:16:57.000 Yeah, I wouldn't disagree

00:16:58.040 with that statement.

00:16:59.060 But, I mean,

00:16:59.600 this is the reality

00:17:00.620 of where we're at.

00:17:01.920 Politicians are going to react

00:17:03.020 and respond to the public.

00:17:05.140 And so if this is something

00:17:06.060 that Albertans want,

00:17:07.020 this is something

00:17:07.500 that Albertans are going

00:17:08.360 to have to push

00:17:09.340 to make sure

00:17:10.200 that we actually do have

00:17:11.420 an agenda,

00:17:12.460 a referendum.

00:17:14.280 And we are going

00:17:15.600 to be the ones

00:17:16.020 responsible for educating

00:17:17.320 people to make

00:17:18.080 informed decisions.

00:17:18.880 And I think right now

00:17:20.040 there's a lot of distrust

00:17:21.440 of the government,

00:17:22.020 which is obviously

00:17:23.080 an obstacle

00:17:23.680 that we have to overcome.

00:17:25.440 And Justin Trudeau

00:17:26.400 helps every which way

00:17:27.360 he can to make

00:17:28.580 that more obvious

00:17:30.360 to Albertans

00:17:31.100 that obviously

00:17:31.900 the government

00:17:32.620 at home here,

00:17:34.060 if you trust it

00:17:35.060 or don't trust

00:17:35.760 Danielle Smith

00:17:36.720 and the UCP

00:17:37.480 is somewhat irrelevant.

00:17:38.940 I think it's an obvious fact

00:17:40.220 that we cannot rely

00:17:41.520 on the federal government

00:17:43.260 and a centralized government

00:17:44.900 in Ottawa

00:17:45.620 to act in our best interest.

00:17:47.640 So much easier

00:17:48.540 to influence a government

00:17:49.620 here at home.

00:17:50.980 And then the other

00:17:51.520 big obstacle I'm seeing

00:17:52.580 is this false sense

00:17:53.320 of security

00:17:53.900 where people just

00:17:55.320 don't have

00:17:56.080 the correct data

00:17:57.040 and the correct information

00:17:58.100 around the Canada

00:17:58.900 Pension Plan.

00:17:59.780 And so, again,

00:18:00.900 if we want to make

00:18:01.940 this happen,

00:18:02.580 then it's we,

00:18:03.880 the people,

00:18:04.600 it's Albertans

00:18:05.320 that are going to have

00:18:05.920 to make sure

00:18:06.560 that it does happen.

00:18:08.300 Well, and that's

00:18:09.460 part of what's up.

00:18:10.340 Like one of the quick

00:18:12.000 things that happened

00:18:13.760 when the discussion

00:18:14.440 came up was suddenly

00:18:15.480 the Canada Pension Plan

00:18:16.580 was trumpeted by defenders

00:18:17.680 as being one of the best

00:18:18.880 pension plans on earth

00:18:20.040 and we'd be insane

00:18:20.960 to leave that plan

00:18:21.880 and why would we dare

00:18:23.440 leave such a plan?

00:18:24.660 But when you look at it,

00:18:26.260 working an entire lifetime

00:18:27.900 and contributing into it

00:18:29.020 and right now

00:18:29.500 the average payout

00:18:30.940 is less than $800 a month,

00:18:32.920 I'm sorry,

00:18:33.280 but that doesn't sound

00:18:34.020 like a heck of a good plan to me.

00:18:36.440 Yeah, well,

00:18:36.980 the average individual

00:18:38.560 who benefits

00:18:39.680 from the Canada Pension Plan

00:18:40.980 receives on average $758

00:18:43.280 and that's after 40 years

00:18:45.520 of contributing.

00:18:46.860 If you take a look

00:18:47.960 at what that individual,

00:18:49.440 had they contributed

00:18:50.160 that money on their own

00:18:51.580 and then the flexibility,

00:18:52.960 let's say,

00:18:53.300 in their own

00:18:54.100 retirement savings plan

00:18:55.620 would have given them

00:18:56.900 a lot more money

00:18:57.860 with a lot more flexibility,

00:18:59.300 money that they could have

00:19:00.040 then left to their spouse

00:19:02.280 or to their children

00:19:04.200 should they, you know,

00:19:06.140 die before having received

00:19:07.540 the pension plan

00:19:08.460 or afterwards.

00:19:10.200 So the Canada Pension Plan,

00:19:11.800 according to the Mercer Report,

00:19:13.360 which is a CFA,

00:19:14.460 Chartered Financial Analyst Report,

00:19:16.180 only ranks 12,

00:19:17.240 which is not bad,

00:19:18.160 but it's not the best.

00:19:19.760 Even when you look

00:19:20.980 at the returns,

00:19:22.920 I mean,

00:19:23.520 the returns are not reflective

00:19:25.100 of what people receive.

00:19:27.540 So,

00:19:28.360 and here's two numbers

00:19:29.720 that I'd really like

00:19:30.580 to leave with people

00:19:31.440 if we do nothing else today

00:19:32.840 is that,

00:19:34.280 one,

00:19:34.820 there's $1.14 trillion

00:19:36.180 of unfunded liabilities

00:19:37.800 with the Canada Pension Plan.

00:19:39.420 Nobody talks about that.

00:19:40.720 It was hidden

00:19:41.340 in the Chief Actuary Report

00:19:44.000 at the very, very end

00:19:45.860 under acknowledgements.

00:19:47.420 Well,

00:19:47.700 I think that deserves

00:19:48.700 a little bit more of attention

00:19:49.840 than just an acknowledgement.

00:19:51.860 And then the other fact

00:19:52.660 that I really want to bring

00:19:53.500 to people's attention

00:19:54.380 is that come 2026,

00:19:57.620 so just two years away,

00:19:58.940 the Chief Actuary

00:19:59.840 reports on this as well,

00:20:01.840 that the expenditures

00:20:03.280 for the Canada Pension Plan

00:20:05.100 will exceed the benefits

00:20:06.660 or the contributions.

00:20:09.500 So,

00:20:09.940 not only do we have

00:20:11.200 $1.14 trillion already,

00:20:12.840 which has grown

00:20:13.380 from $884 trillion

00:20:14.640 in 2019

00:20:16.000 and it's continuing to grow,

00:20:18.360 it is actually going

00:20:19.940 to just exponentially explode

00:20:22.840 when the actual expenditures

00:20:25.260 for the first time

00:20:26.700 exceed the contributions

00:20:28.240 that are coming in.

00:20:29.300 Because what people

00:20:29.780 don't realize

00:20:30.360 is the Canada Pension Plan,

00:20:31.780 the base,

00:20:32.460 is a pay-as-you-go.

00:20:34.180 So,

00:20:34.480 it's the people

00:20:35.160 that are contributing today

00:20:36.480 that are paying

00:20:37.260 for the retirees.

00:20:38.380 The retirees

00:20:39.260 that think,

00:20:39.920 it's my money,

00:20:40.800 your money was spent

00:20:41.820 long ago.

00:20:43.540 It is the people

00:20:44.600 who are working today

00:20:45.660 that are giving you

00:20:46.880 your pension.

00:20:48.240 Yeah,

00:20:48.460 and to give some background

00:20:49.280 and I guess a little bit

00:20:50.460 of credit where it's due,

00:20:51.200 it used to be

00:20:52.000 a pure pay-as-you-go

00:20:53.640 pension plan

00:20:54.660 until about 1997

00:20:55.720 and Jean Chrétien

00:20:56.640 and Paul Martin did,

00:20:58.820 well,

00:20:59.020 the way they did it

00:20:59.780 was by upping

00:21:00.360 your contributions

00:21:01.160 a great deal,

00:21:02.080 but they did bring it

00:21:03.060 to a point

00:21:03.460 where they started

00:21:04.120 to build a bit

00:21:05.220 of a fund,

00:21:06.020 finally.

00:21:06.980 And it's to the point,

00:21:07.740 as you said,

00:21:08.180 there's still

00:21:08.940 a tremendous unfunded liability,

00:21:10.320 which means there's

00:21:11.040 going to be a lot

00:21:11.500 of retirees

00:21:12.080 that need to be paid

00:21:12.780 out eventually.

00:21:13.900 And right now,

00:21:14.620 there's about 33%

00:21:16.360 of that

00:21:17.280 is saved up

00:21:18.400 in the fund.

00:21:18.880 It's not enough

00:21:19.300 to cover it.

00:21:19.860 So as you said as well,

00:21:20.860 they're going to have

00:21:21.280 to increase

00:21:21.820 the contribution rates

00:21:22.700 if they want to continue

00:21:23.920 to keep building

00:21:24.660 that fund.

00:21:25.920 And again,

00:21:26.520 as we're saying,

00:21:27.020 for not some really

00:21:27.880 large payouts really

00:21:28.880 when you look at it.

00:21:30.200 But some of the question

00:21:31.560 and I see from Paradox

00:21:32.560 asking as well

00:21:33.480 about when the federal

00:21:34.940 government might give

00:21:35.560 their numbers

00:21:36.060 on what the amount

00:21:37.180 of that fund

00:21:38.500 Alberta might be 0.54

00:21:39.600 entitled to,

00:21:40.220 because that's another

00:21:40.700 one of the big

00:21:41.140 question marks

00:21:41.820 that's up there.

00:21:42.780 It did sound

00:21:43.600 from that first report

00:21:44.580 a little bit too generous.

00:21:45.620 I understand it was

00:21:46.440 a raw interpretation

00:21:47.920 of the legislation

00:21:48.720 where they came up

00:21:49.440 with that number

00:21:50.140 saying that Alberta

00:21:50.760 would be entitled

00:21:51.340 to over a third

00:21:51.980 of the fund.

00:21:53.020 But it did fall

00:21:55.120 under the almost

00:21:56.140 too good to be true

00:21:57.100 sort of aspect

00:21:57.900 of things.

00:21:59.920 When and how

00:22:00.780 do you think

00:22:01.060 we could settle

00:22:01.760 on what the amount

00:22:02.840 Alberta would be

00:22:03.400 entitled to

00:22:03.900 if they left the fund?

00:22:05.340 Well, I think

00:22:06.080 that's actually going

00:22:06.800 to end up in the courts

00:22:07.620 to be honest

00:22:08.260 because the federal

00:22:08.960 government obviously

00:22:09.960 does not want

00:22:10.660 Alberta to leave.

00:22:12.440 If they do that,

00:22:13.820 we have the youngest

00:22:14.720 demographic.

00:22:16.020 So when you're looking

00:22:16.920 at a pension plan

00:22:18.320 of any sort,

00:22:19.220 what they're looking

00:22:20.060 at are three things.

00:22:21.180 They're looking

00:22:21.480 at immigration,

00:22:22.320 they're looking

00:22:22.600 at economy,

00:22:23.280 they're looking

00:22:23.620 at demographics

00:22:24.300 of which Alberta

00:22:25.580 outperforms the rest

00:22:27.440 of Canada

00:22:27.940 on all of the above.

00:22:29.920 So the reality is

00:22:31.740 if Alberta were to leave,

00:22:33.240 it's really going

00:22:34.080 to put a lot

00:22:34.560 of pressure

00:22:34.920 on the Canada

00:22:35.500 pension plan

00:22:36.120 and the federal

00:22:36.740 government

00:22:37.220 to actually kind

00:22:39.480 of have to explain

00:22:40.280 to people what

00:22:41.080 exactly just happened

00:22:42.180 and why their

00:22:42.860 contributions are going

00:22:43.960 up and why those

00:22:45.140 unfunded liabilities

00:22:46.300 are going to literally

00:22:47.520 just, I think,

00:22:48.640 just exponentially

00:22:49.360 explode.

00:22:50.620 So Alberta is

00:22:52.040 in a really unique

00:22:52.940 situation in the fact

00:22:54.140 that we do have

00:22:54.740 a younger workforce,

00:22:55.560 we have higher incomes

00:22:57.160 and we could actually

00:22:58.460 reduce our contributions

00:22:59.700 or improve our benefits

00:23:01.620 just based upon

00:23:03.680 those things alone.

00:23:04.640 So we don't actually

00:23:06.060 really have to wait

00:23:07.240 for a number,

00:23:08.140 in my opinion,

00:23:09.460 from the Ottawa government

00:23:11.480 because it's

00:23:12.880 somewhat irrelevant.

00:23:13.800 We could actually

00:23:14.540 start today,

00:23:15.440 pay as you go.

00:23:16.640 We have more

00:23:17.360 than enough contributions

00:23:19.100 to cover the benefits

00:23:20.760 that we pay out

00:23:22.280 and as a matter of fact,

00:23:23.740 we would be saving

00:23:24.400 anywhere from

00:23:24.920 three to five billion

00:23:25.820 dollars a year

00:23:27.000 that could then

00:23:27.660 be invested

00:23:28.360 in our own Alberta

00:23:29.460 pension plan.

00:23:31.200 And so then

00:23:32.420 whatever comes

00:23:33.640 from Ottawa

00:23:34.460 whether it's,

00:23:35.520 you know,

00:23:35.780 using a Trevor Tome

00:23:36.760 number of 120

00:23:37.820 to 150 billion

00:23:39.160 or we use

00:23:40.320 the LifeWorks

00:23:41.100 number of

00:23:41.540 334 billion,

00:23:43.940 I'm going,

00:23:44.440 that's a bonus.

00:23:45.480 You know,

00:23:45.720 we're already started,

00:23:46.880 we're already established,

00:23:47.940 we're ahead of the game

00:23:49.200 and now we get

00:23:50.260 this huge influx

00:23:51.240 of money that comes

00:23:52.100 from the contributions

00:23:53.260 that we've paid.

00:23:54.500 LifeWorks' calculation

00:23:56.100 wasn't actually

00:23:57.260 that out to lunch.

00:23:58.920 I mean,

00:23:59.060 it was prepared

00:23:59.700 by Bill Morneau

00:24:01.200 who was the former

00:24:02.860 finance minister

00:24:04.040 for the Liberal Party

00:24:05.620 of Canada.

00:24:06.760 So people say

00:24:07.620 it's not objective

00:24:08.600 and it's,

00:24:09.480 you know,

00:24:09.880 it's a stretch.

00:24:11.020 Not really.

00:24:12.360 And even when this

00:24:13.300 was signed originally,

00:24:15.140 Ontario

00:24:15.760 and the Prime Minister,

00:24:16.940 the Premier at the time

00:24:18.380 made sure that

00:24:19.760 if Ontario

00:24:21.080 or any province

00:24:22.100 wanted to leave,

00:24:23.020 they would leave

00:24:24.240 with what they

00:24:25.300 had contributed

00:24:26.140 and what that money

00:24:28.120 had it been invested

00:24:29.500 in their own

00:24:30.560 pension plan

00:24:31.360 would look like.

00:24:32.760 So is it going

00:24:33.540 to end up in courts?

00:24:34.360 Probably.

00:24:35.920 I don't think

00:24:36.700 the federal government

00:24:37.380 is in any real hurry

00:24:38.520 to give us that number,

00:24:39.520 although they did specify

00:24:40.640 that it should be coming

00:24:41.820 sometime in the fall.

00:24:43.080 But the reality is

00:24:44.280 Albertans,

00:24:44.940 in my opinion,

00:24:45.560 we shouldn't be waiting.

00:24:46.820 We should be giving notice,

00:24:47.980 take our three years,

00:24:49.320 get ourselves organized

00:24:50.260 and then let them work out

00:24:52.260 what that number should be.

00:24:54.080 And when it comes,

00:24:54.960 that's a great bonus.

00:24:57.180 Yeah, well, I mean,

00:24:58.340 another big aspect of this,

00:25:00.520 one of the commenters,

00:25:01.260 Wildrose, said,

00:25:01.860 you know,

00:25:01.980 with that much money

00:25:02.600 all at once,

00:25:03.360 I'd be concerned

00:25:03.800 the money would be squandered.

00:25:05.180 You mentioned earlier

00:25:06.040 about trust.

00:25:06.760 Like this is something

00:25:07.680 where there's one shot,

00:25:09.480 though, you know,

00:25:09.860 they've got to make sure

00:25:11.040 we trust government

00:25:12.300 to properly set up a plan

00:25:14.360 because, hey,

00:25:15.740 even the most well-meaning

00:25:16.960 of governments

00:25:17.580 can screw up badly.

00:25:19.120 And I mean,

00:25:19.500 this is our retirement

00:25:20.300 we're talking about.

00:25:21.700 We really have to make sure

00:25:23.460 that there is

00:25:24.120 an airtight plan in place

00:25:26.000 before Albertans

00:25:26.720 are ready to leap.

00:25:27.460 Even if the Canadian 0.91

00:25:28.400 pension plan isn't great,

00:25:29.900 they don't want to leap

00:25:30.580 to one that's worse.

00:25:32.800 No, we definitely

00:25:33.760 don't want one that's worse.

00:25:35.180 And I think we can actually

00:25:36.240 set one up that's better

00:25:37.600 with better investment objectives,

00:25:39.380 with better governance.

00:25:41.920 And this is not rocket science.

00:25:43.940 I mean,

00:25:44.240 there are investment funds

00:25:46.400 out there.

00:25:47.220 There are pension funds

00:25:48.380 out there

00:25:48.780 that are doing

00:25:49.340 doing a fantastic job

00:25:50.600 better than

00:25:51.500 the Canada pension plan.

00:25:53.360 And we just need

00:25:54.600 to replicate a model

00:25:55.600 that already exists

00:25:56.680 and is already working well.

00:25:58.540 And there's some parts

00:25:59.360 of the Canada pension plan

00:26:00.420 that do exactly that.

00:26:02.440 And we can replicate those.

00:26:04.500 So I think the big key thing

00:26:05.660 here is to make sure

00:26:06.600 that it's not

00:26:07.580 politically interfered with.

00:26:10.220 But I mean,

00:26:10.620 obviously,

00:26:11.080 there are still things

00:26:12.380 that need some oversight.

00:26:14.960 And you need to make

00:26:15.780 some decisions

00:26:16.360 on how this is going to run,

00:26:17.900 what it's going to look like,

00:26:18.860 what if the structure,

00:26:20.080 you know,

00:26:20.200 who's going to collect

00:26:20.880 the contributions,

00:26:21.820 who's going to pay out.

00:26:22.900 But again,

00:26:23.400 all of those things

00:26:24.540 kind of already exist.

00:26:25.880 I think Alberta

00:26:26.520 is in a beautiful situation

00:26:27.760 to be able to cherry pick

00:26:29.580 exactly what we want

00:26:32.880 and what we don't want

00:26:34.580 and to do it much,

00:26:36.260 much better.

00:26:37.940 So Premier Smith

00:26:38.680 is repeatedly committed

00:26:39.820 to holding a referendum

00:26:41.020 before moving on

00:26:42.920 an Alberta pension plan.

00:26:44.880 You know,

00:26:45.020 some people are saying

00:26:45.700 she shouldn't have to.

00:26:47.100 I don't know,

00:26:47.580 but the bottom line is

00:26:48.240 politically,

00:26:48.580 she's cornered herself

00:26:49.700 into this.

00:26:50.420 Even if there isn't

00:26:51.160 a referendum,

00:26:52.040 you need a lot

00:26:53.160 of public support

00:26:54.100 before you can make

00:26:54.980 this kind of move.

00:26:55.560 I don't think

00:26:56.060 it's quite there yet,

00:26:58.080 but it can be there

00:26:59.900 if people,

00:27:01.740 I guess,

00:27:02.080 you know,

00:27:02.200 educate themselves

00:27:02.820 and realize

00:27:03.280 that there's a better plan.

00:27:04.120 But they also need

00:27:04.600 to see some rock-solid things.

00:27:05.680 There's a whole bunch

00:27:06.100 of question marks

00:27:06.780 and a whole bunch

00:27:07.700 of generous promises.

00:27:09.360 But until you see

00:27:10.360 some stuff tangible,

00:27:12.660 it's kind of hard to say

00:27:13.560 I'm ready to make that leap.

00:27:14.600 But I mean,

00:27:14.960 is anybody working on that

00:27:16.300 or is the government

00:27:16.780 just kind of tapping

00:27:18.400 the brakes now?

00:27:19.820 Well,

00:27:20.000 I think the UCP

00:27:21.020 has tapped the brakes

00:27:22.000 and I think that's

00:27:22.880 folly on their part.

00:27:25.020 I think they should be

00:27:25.740 pushing this much harder

00:27:26.740 than what they have been.

00:27:29.020 And because what's happened

00:27:29.880 is they're leaving

00:27:30.620 a knowledge gap.

00:27:32.180 And that knowledge gap

00:27:33.560 has been filled

00:27:34.200 with people

00:27:34.960 like the NDP,

00:27:36.540 sadly,

00:27:37.080 who have been,

00:27:38.040 I think,

00:27:39.060 misleading people

00:27:40.260 and misinforming

00:27:41.380 individuals.

00:27:43.260 Now,

00:27:43.680 if you also take a look

00:27:44.520 at what the CPP

00:27:45.260 has been doing as well,

00:27:46.460 they have come out

00:27:47.100 with this huge

00:27:47.800 advertising campaign.

00:27:50.000 Anytime you go

00:27:50.660 on social media,

00:27:51.600 it's like you have

00:27:52.140 the best pension

00:27:52.900 in the world,

00:27:53.640 CPP,

00:27:54.460 you know,

00:27:54.940 protect it.

00:27:56.220 And that's,

00:27:57.160 you know,

00:27:58.000 that these are things

00:27:59.280 that people should be

00:28:00.000 waking up to.

00:28:00.840 It's like,

00:28:01.120 okay,

00:28:01.300 well,

00:28:01.500 if it was the best

00:28:02.240 in the world,

00:28:03.400 okay,

00:28:04.120 they shouldn't need

00:28:04.800 to be advertising.

00:28:05.900 You know,

00:28:06.240 the government

00:28:07.120 was criticized

00:28:08.560 a little bit

00:28:09.340 for putting out

00:28:10.240 a campaign

00:28:11.000 to provide information

00:28:13.100 to all Albertans

00:28:15.100 equally

00:28:15.580 about the benefits

00:28:17.820 and the merits

00:28:18.440 of an APP.

00:28:19.160 And they were criticized

00:28:19.700 for spending

00:28:20.220 taxpayer dollars.

00:28:21.280 But here you have

00:28:22.000 the Canada Pension Plan

00:28:23.460 who has already

00:28:24.360 a bloated bureaucracy

00:28:26.100 with huge administration costs

00:28:28.700 and now they're advertising

00:28:30.220 and hugely so.

00:28:34.120 So, you know,

00:28:34.660 for me,

00:28:35.200 again,

00:28:35.820 it's coming down,

00:28:36.760 I think,

00:28:36.940 to grassroots

00:28:37.500 and there's organizations

00:28:38.940 like Alberta First Pension,

00:28:40.760 which is what I've been doing

00:28:43.040 the last month or so

00:28:44.880 and will continue to do

00:28:46.000 for the next four to five months

00:28:47.700 here across the province,

00:28:48.880 we're going to be doing

00:28:49.720 100 meetings

00:28:50.600 and the goal of those meetings

00:28:52.600 is to have your questions answered.

00:28:56.500 So,

00:28:56.920 as a chartered investment manager,

00:28:58.780 I'm very familiar

00:28:59.620 with the CPPIB,

00:29:00.860 I'm very familiar

00:29:01.500 with investments

00:29:02.280 and I'm very familiar

00:29:03.320 with investment policies

00:29:04.540 and the models

00:29:06.000 that currently exist

00:29:07.100 as to what this could look like

00:29:08.540 and I'm also very familiar

00:29:10.000 with,

00:29:10.560 you know,

00:29:10.800 I review the annual reports

00:29:12.260 for the Canada Pension Plan.

00:29:13.940 I also review

00:29:14.540 the chief actuarial report.

00:29:16.400 I also have read

00:29:17.360 LifeWorks reports.

00:29:18.480 So, you know,

00:29:19.160 for me,

00:29:19.460 it's about giving people

00:29:20.380 information

00:29:20.980 so they can stand firm

00:29:22.660 in the decision

00:29:23.220 that they make

00:29:23.940 but we do have to hold

00:29:25.380 Danielle Smith

00:29:26.180 and the UCP

00:29:26.940 their feet to the fire

00:29:27.920 to make sure

00:29:28.360 that this does do

00:29:29.760 for sure,

00:29:30.440 without a doubt,

00:29:31.180 go to a referendum.

00:29:32.800 So,

00:29:32.960 whether you're for or against,

00:29:34.980 you know,

00:29:35.200 make sure that your voice

00:29:36.080 is heard

00:29:36.760 but get the information

00:29:38.660 that you need.

00:29:39.400 The CPP

00:29:39.840 is not what people

00:29:41.580 think it is.

00:29:43.420 When you attend

00:29:44.340 these meetings,

00:29:45.000 there is truly

00:29:45.920 a false sense of security

00:29:47.200 and that's due

00:29:48.340 to lack of information

00:29:49.320 and shame on us.

00:29:50.480 We should do

00:29:51.120 a better job

00:29:51.680 at educating people

00:29:52.620 and giving them

00:29:53.160 the actual facts

00:29:54.080 and the data.

00:29:55.080 Well,

00:29:55.640 it's our job

00:29:56.440 as citizens

00:29:56.900 to do so

00:29:57.520 and this could inspire

00:29:58.280 other provinces too.

00:29:59.400 I mean,

00:29:59.600 that's,

00:30:00.020 I think,

00:30:00.200 part of what makes

00:30:00.880 them fearful

00:30:01.780 in Ottawa

00:30:02.220 is a loss

00:30:03.040 of some centrally

00:30:04.060 controlled funds

00:30:05.260 and just control

00:30:06.380 of the country

00:30:08.040 in general.

00:30:09.120 So,

00:30:09.360 yeah,

00:30:09.720 we've run out

00:30:10.420 the clock here.

00:30:11.380 Before I let you go,

00:30:12.400 you know,

00:30:12.600 maybe one more time,

00:30:13.280 where can people

00:30:13.680 find more information

00:30:14.660 and get up to date

00:30:15.700 on this?

00:30:16.640 So,

00:30:17.160 people can follow me

00:30:18.040 along if they want

00:30:18.980 at Nadine Wellwood

00:30:20.540 on YouTube

00:30:21.320 or Twitter.

00:30:22.560 I'll be posting

00:30:23.280 information

00:30:23.840 as we post events.

00:30:25.880 You can go

00:30:26.520 to the Alberta

00:30:27.120 Prosperity Project.

00:30:28.340 I think Taking Back Alberta

00:30:29.360 has also been

00:30:29.960 advertising these events

00:30:31.340 and there is

00:30:33.160 an event this evening

00:30:34.020 actually in Calgary

00:30:35.400 at the Riviera

00:30:36.380 at 7 o'clock.

00:30:38.040 So,

00:30:38.340 if you do have questions

00:30:39.320 and you happen to be

00:30:39.960 in the Calgary area,

00:30:41.020 please come out.

00:30:41.920 Everybody is welcome.

00:30:43.840 Whether you're for

00:30:44.760 or against

00:30:45.140 is irrelevant.

00:30:45.880 This is about

00:30:46.340 sharing information.

00:30:47.900 So,

00:30:48.220 we'll leave it at that

00:30:49.200 and hopefully

00:30:50.020 people do take

00:30:51.840 an interest

00:30:52.420 because it's a very,

00:30:53.580 very important thing

00:30:54.300 and if not for you,

00:30:55.880 think about your children

00:30:56.880 and your grandchildren

00:30:57.600 in particular.

00:30:59.360 Great.

00:30:59.660 Well,

00:30:59.840 thank you very much,

00:31:00.560 Nadine.

00:31:00.880 And we'll keep up

00:31:02.200 the good fight.

00:31:02.700 We'll get a better

00:31:03.140 pension plan yet.

00:31:05.160 That's the goal.

00:31:06.100 Thank you so much,

00:31:06.920 Corey.

00:31:07.560 All right.

00:31:08.320 So,

00:31:08.580 that was Nadine

00:31:09.200 Willwood.

00:31:09.800 And yes,

00:31:10.220 there's lots to cover

00:31:11.060 on the pension

00:31:11.840 and there's only so much

00:31:12.480 you can cover

00:31:12.840 in 15 minutes.

00:31:13.660 I see a commenter

00:31:14.480 then again,

00:31:15.700 Wilder was saying,

00:31:16.300 will I get more

00:31:16.800 from an Alberta

00:31:17.660 pension plan

00:31:18.280 or the same

00:31:18.740 as a Canadian

00:31:19.400 pension plan?

00:31:19.900 Well,

00:31:20.340 one of the things

00:31:20.920 if you want to look

00:31:21.540 at the legislation

00:31:22.360 for a province

00:31:23.720 to exit from the CPP,

00:31:25.820 there has to be

00:31:26.940 a commitment

00:31:27.760 to at least

00:31:28.980 have a plan

00:31:30.080 as good

00:31:31.160 as the CPP.

00:31:32.220 It has to be

00:31:32.900 providing the same

00:31:34.020 amount of benefits

00:31:34.840 or better

00:31:35.800 than what's already

00:31:36.580 existing.

00:31:37.320 So,

00:31:37.420 or they won't be,

00:31:38.220 that would give the

00:31:38.820 government an excuse

00:31:39.660 to try and block

00:31:41.020 the exit

00:31:41.520 from the federal plan.

00:31:43.860 Again,

00:31:44.320 there's a lot of

00:31:44.880 assumptions.

00:31:45.380 That's the problem

00:31:46.100 though.

00:31:46.440 We need to see

00:31:47.020 how would the plan

00:31:47.740 be set up?

00:31:48.320 Would they be looking

00:31:48.920 to have high

00:31:50.520 contributions

00:31:51.000 to try and build

00:31:52.060 a bit of a better

00:31:52.860 nest egg first,

00:31:54.640 you know,

00:31:54.920 before bringing them

00:31:55.520 down later

00:31:56.060 or would they be

00:31:56.760 looking to more

00:31:57.500 immediately increase

00:31:58.660 payouts for seniors

00:31:59.680 right now,

00:32:00.560 which would slow

00:32:01.560 the growth

00:32:02.180 of the fund itself.

00:32:03.160 There's a whole lot

00:32:04.060 of questions

00:32:04.500 and that's what

00:32:04.940 makes it hard

00:32:05.660 to make a move

00:32:07.560 this big.

00:32:08.600 But if we don't

00:32:10.580 find the courage

00:32:11.340 to make that move,

00:32:12.360 we are committing

00:32:13.180 ourselves to a pension

00:32:15.380 fund that again,

00:32:16.040 who can live on

00:32:16.600 700 and some dollars

00:32:17.700 a month, guys,

00:32:18.420 for working a lifetime?

00:32:20.640 And then as Nadine

00:32:22.240 pointed out,

00:32:23.280 with the way

00:32:23.980 the numbers are going,

00:32:25.000 we would have to

00:32:25.900 start contributing

00:32:26.640 more to maintain

00:32:28.120 where that's sitting.

00:32:29.680 So it's just not

00:32:30.920 a tenable path

00:32:32.420 for us right now

00:32:33.460 and examining

00:32:34.560 a provincial plan

00:32:35.320 is a very viable

00:32:36.880 and good idea.

00:32:38.380 But again,

00:32:38.940 we got our work

00:32:39.400 cut out for us

00:32:40.080 and we have to

00:32:41.160 speak up as citizens,

00:32:42.120 we have to speak

00:32:42.560 to the politicians

00:32:43.260 and we have to

00:32:44.680 educate ourselves

00:32:45.180 and we have to

00:32:46.500 decide what we

00:32:48.980 want to see exactly

00:32:49.920 out of a plan

00:32:50.600 and get that out there.

00:32:52.160 It's a lot of work

00:32:52.820 but hey,

00:32:53.940 what in life

00:32:54.760 is decent

00:32:55.600 that comes

00:32:56.440 without a whole

00:32:57.300 lot of work.

00:32:58.240 All right,

00:32:58.480 let's talk to something

00:32:59.640 that again got me,

00:33:00.660 I was hearing in the

00:33:01.160 newsroom today

00:33:01.660 and Dave mentioned

00:33:02.220 it was a,

00:33:02.980 you know,

00:33:03.860 Picton,

00:33:04.320 Robert Picton,

00:33:05.020 that sick monster

00:33:05.840 who murdered

00:33:06.900 all those women, 1.00

00:33:07.680 26 that we know of,

00:33:09.800 it sounds like

00:33:10.240 there's probably more,

00:33:11.720 I think he was

00:33:12.200 convicted of only

00:33:12.920 six of them

00:33:13.520 because they figured

00:33:13.940 well we got six

00:33:14.520 first degree murder

00:33:15.180 convictions,

00:33:15.920 he'll never get out,

00:33:16.520 we can leave it at that,

00:33:17.320 quit wasting the

00:33:17.920 court's money.

00:33:19.420 I can kind of agree

00:33:20.040 with that but the

00:33:20.480 problem is now

00:33:21.400 this monster

00:33:23.280 is technically up

00:33:25.600 to apply for day parole

00:33:27.760 and he won't get it,

00:33:30.740 he won't get it,

00:33:31.400 it'll be like

00:33:31.840 Clifford Olson

00:33:32.480 but he,

00:33:33.520 you know,

00:33:33.720 the thing that

00:33:34.180 drove me mad

00:33:35.180 all the way from

00:33:35.920 the 90s and up

00:33:37.040 with that piece of crap

00:33:38.020 Clifford Olson

00:33:38.820 was that he

00:33:40.300 would make those

00:33:41.540 parole applications

00:33:42.800 periodically,

00:33:43.700 I don't know what it was,

00:33:44.460 every couple of years

00:33:45.240 or something,

00:33:45.680 and then he would drag

00:33:46.460 the families of his

00:33:48.020 victims in

00:33:49.200 because they'd have

00:33:49.820 to come to those

00:33:50.360 hearings to make sure

00:33:51.440 that that child

00:33:52.420 killing monster

00:33:53.260 didn't get out

00:33:54.340 and he would

00:33:54.960 re-victimize those

00:33:56.060 families over

00:33:57.120 and over

00:33:57.960 and over again

00:33:59.040 and you know

00:33:59.700 as if they didn't

00:34:00.500 go through enough

00:34:00.940 having their children

00:34:01.480 murdered by that monster

00:34:02.440 they had to look at him

00:34:04.600 every couple of years

00:34:05.340 while he would apply

00:34:06.100 for parole.

00:34:07.460 We need

00:34:08.380 some true

00:34:10.120 life sentences.

00:34:12.980 If it's a true

00:34:13.660 life sentence

00:34:13.980 we know they're not

00:34:14.680 going to let Picton out

00:34:15.480 well I'll never say

00:34:16.380 anything 100%

00:34:16.940 but it's exceedingly

00:34:18.100 unlikely

00:34:18.580 but he could still

00:34:20.120 sit there

00:34:20.700 and waste our time

00:34:21.760 waste our money

00:34:22.460 waste our emotional

00:34:23.620 resources

00:34:24.240 by constantly going

00:34:25.700 through crap

00:34:26.220 like Olson did

00:34:27.100 and applying for parole

00:34:28.600 every couple of years.

00:34:30.340 I mean life needs

00:34:31.060 to mean life

00:34:31.600 and I mean that means

00:34:32.300 he dies of old age

00:34:33.560 behind bars

00:34:35.140 so if you've got

00:34:36.040 that kind of sentence

00:34:36.700 why are you wasting

00:34:37.580 time with this parole

00:34:38.600 crap?

00:34:39.560 I understand

00:34:40.600 some sort of

00:34:41.260 faint hope

00:34:41.660 things

00:34:41.860 if new evidence

00:34:42.840 came out

00:34:43.360 and somehow

00:34:44.360 there was proof

00:34:45.100 that space aliens

00:34:46.360 had actually killed

00:34:47.180 all those women 1.00

00:34:47.760 fine we can re-examine

00:34:49.580 his case at that point

00:34:50.780 until then

00:34:51.500 why offend

00:34:54.440 the victims' families

00:34:56.120 offend the nation

00:34:57.080 assault them

00:34:58.280 by listening to this

00:34:59.460 piece of crap

00:35:00.480 coming up

00:35:01.540 for possible parole

00:35:02.880 which he won't get

00:35:03.800 but it's just

00:35:05.280 our system is so

00:35:06.520 Canada's got one of

00:35:07.380 the most pathetic

00:35:07.940 justice systems

00:35:08.660 in the world

00:35:09.040 it really does

00:35:09.920 we can't keep

00:35:10.740 I mean guys like him

00:35:11.680 are going to stay

00:35:12.080 behind bars

00:35:12.560 we got a whole lot

00:35:13.240 of violent offenders

00:35:14.000 repeat offenders

00:35:14.860 that are in and out

00:35:15.560 and in and out

00:35:16.060 and they do

00:35:16.640 eventually murder people

00:35:17.720 sometimes on bail

00:35:19.020 sometimes on parole

00:35:19.880 rarely

00:35:20.960 does it come

00:35:22.580 as a first offense

00:35:24.000 you know

00:35:24.420 a lot of these ones

00:35:25.360 they're chronic offenders

00:35:26.840 I mean we hear about

00:35:27.500 the 30-40 convictions

00:35:28.680 over a lifetime

00:35:29.180 before finally

00:35:29.720 they cross a line

00:35:30.440 and kill somebody 0.88

00:35:31.100 maybe we should have

00:35:32.080 just kept them in there

00:35:33.140 when you get

00:35:33.800 you know

00:35:34.360 there's hard realities

00:35:35.660 Canadians don't like to face 1.00

00:35:36.940 some people are broken

00:35:39.040 some people are

00:35:40.720 irredeemable

00:35:42.120 we can't fix them

00:35:43.420 and they're dangerous

00:35:45.160 and when we know that

00:35:46.940 when we've had somebody

00:35:47.960 and I'm not talking about

00:35:49.100 somebody who's stolen a car

00:35:50.440 a couple of times

00:35:51.140 or a shoplifter

00:35:51.840 but when you've had somebody

00:35:52.740 with a lifetime

00:35:53.600 of constant crimes

00:35:55.080 over and over

00:35:55.800 we have ones like that

00:35:57.580 and violent

00:35:58.320 sometimes we have to accept

00:36:00.420 you know what

00:36:00.820 we can't fix this person

00:36:02.060 they're too dangerous

00:36:03.040 to keep in society

00:36:03.940 we are gonna put them

00:36:05.460 away for good

00:36:06.720 we're gonna warehouse them

00:36:07.720 we're not gonna

00:36:08.500 because they talk

00:36:08.980 oh it's so expensive

00:36:09.700 to keep somebody in prison

00:36:10.460 you know what

00:36:10.880 if you accept the fact

00:36:12.500 that you're never releasing them

00:36:13.700 it doesn't have to be

00:36:14.660 that expensive

00:36:15.160 that's when you can

00:36:16.360 actually warehouse them

00:36:17.360 that's where you can put

00:36:18.020 those thick concrete walls

00:36:19.340 that's when you're not

00:36:20.100 gonna waste time

00:36:21.320 trying to get them

00:36:22.140 a university degree

00:36:23.120 for when they get out

00:36:23.880 and go to work

00:36:24.380 they're not gonna

00:36:24.980 they're gonna stay there

00:36:26.880 we got a whole lot

00:36:29.500 of good north country

00:36:30.280 we could use for that

00:36:31.320 these guys aren't

00:36:32.460 gonna get away

00:36:33.060 just don't give them shoes

00:36:34.400 but either way

00:36:35.940 our system is sick

00:36:36.760 and we get victimized

00:36:38.080 and live in fear

00:36:40.240 by these repeat offenders

00:36:41.120 it's just maddening

00:36:41.820 I wrote a piece

00:36:42.800 a couple of years ago

00:36:44.900 it was one of my most

00:36:45.600 read columns

00:36:46.520 in the standard

00:36:47.060 because over the course

00:36:48.160 of one year

00:36:48.900 three mothers in Alberta

00:36:51.280 were murdered

00:36:52.920 in one year

00:36:54.420 in Alberta

00:36:55.140 and all three

00:36:56.340 of the murderers

00:36:57.740 had of course

00:36:59.220 been in and out

00:37:00.100 of the prison system

00:37:00.700 for serious crimes

00:37:01.520 like if they'd have been

00:37:02.720 kept in prison

00:37:03.380 as they should have been

00:37:04.440 in the first place

00:37:05.400 all of those mothers 0.80

00:37:07.000 along with one of the children

00:37:07.980 who was murdered

00:37:08.400 with one of those mothers 0.98

00:37:09.000 would still be alive

00:37:10.320 today

00:37:11.060 but we let them out

00:37:12.260 and the innocent

00:37:13.080 paid the price

00:37:13.760 and the savages

00:37:14.780 who did it

00:37:15.300 very possibly

00:37:16.340 might get out again

00:37:17.160 we gotta change that

00:37:18.620 we really do

00:37:19.580 I don't like big government

00:37:21.780 I don't like intrusive government

00:37:22.860 I don't like government

00:37:23.600 in our face

00:37:23.940 but there's roles

00:37:24.560 that government has

00:37:25.360 and the protection

00:37:26.480 of the citizens

00:37:27.200 from crime

00:37:28.780 from violence

00:37:29.320 that is a clear

00:37:30.680 and definable role

00:37:31.760 of the government

00:37:32.100 we should feel safe

00:37:32.940 in the streets

00:37:33.480 we should know

00:37:34.560 that if somebody

00:37:35.220 crosses that line

00:37:36.140 if somebody

00:37:36.820 is that dangerous

00:37:37.640 that the state

00:37:38.760 will intervene

00:37:39.300 and take them away

00:37:40.020 from us

00:37:40.360 so we don't have

00:37:41.080 to be victimized

00:37:41.740 by them

00:37:42.020 and our state

00:37:42.520 is failing us

00:37:43.340 in that

00:37:43.660 badly

00:37:44.240 badly

00:37:45.560 speaking of the state

00:37:47.920 failing us

00:37:48.400 here's actually

00:37:49.160 kind of

00:37:49.900 a good news story

00:37:51.060 this is unusual

00:37:52.140 so the cabinet

00:37:53.680 is shelving

00:37:54.480 a long threatened

00:37:55.280 bill to regulate

00:37:56.080 truth and disinformation

00:37:57.160 on the internet

00:37:57.960 yeah

00:37:58.180 they've been talking

00:37:59.060 about for a long time

00:37:59.720 we're gonna regulate

00:38:00.460 the internet

00:38:00.820 we're gonna regulate

00:38:02.020 the truth

00:38:02.720 we're gonna bring

00:38:03.360 in newspeak

00:38:04.100 we're gonna make

00:38:04.580 sure that people

00:38:06.200 are charged

00:38:06.940 yeah they see

00:38:07.380 they want to crack

00:38:07.900 down when somebody

00:38:08.520 says something

00:38:08.900 they don't like

00:38:09.480 you know you stab 0.80

00:38:10.420 a few people

00:38:10.900 well you know

00:38:11.560 we'll get you

00:38:11.900 some therapy

00:38:12.400 but boy you say

00:38:13.160 something mean

00:38:13.660 on the internet

00:38:14.160 we might really

00:38:15.360 have to come

00:38:15.860 after you

00:38:16.540 but this is

00:38:19.360 according to

00:38:19.980 Dominic LeBlanc

00:38:21.200 public safety

00:38:21.800 minister

00:38:22.100 said Canadians

00:38:22.600 consider the

00:38:23.100 measure

00:38:23.340 unconstitutional

00:38:24.100 good

00:38:24.520 yes yes

00:38:25.680 it's probably

00:38:26.220 because it is

00:38:26.920 but that never

00:38:27.660 has stopped

00:38:28.040 the government

00:38:28.400 from stepping

00:38:28.840 on our rights

00:38:29.260 has it

00:38:29.660 but they are

00:38:30.600 actually saying

00:38:31.240 you know what

00:38:31.520 we're not

00:38:31.920 going to do it

00:38:32.480 I mean I'm

00:38:34.380 kind of annoyed

00:38:34.880 that they thought

00:38:35.420 they should

00:38:35.960 or could

00:38:36.320 in the first

00:38:36.880 place

00:38:37.280 but hey

00:38:37.660 at least

00:38:38.320 they stopped

00:38:39.500 it's pretty rare

00:38:40.320 you don't see

00:38:41.380 that very often

00:38:42.200 this is a stubborn

00:38:43.340 prideful administration

00:38:44.800 we have with

00:38:45.460 the Trudeau government

00:38:46.120 and they don't

00:38:47.560 often you know

00:38:48.860 back down

00:38:49.360 on pretty much

00:38:50.360 anything

00:38:51.140 when they

00:38:53.140 get their

00:38:54.060 mind set

00:38:54.520 on it

00:38:55.080 speaking of which

00:38:55.900 then let's talk

00:38:56.440 ad scam

00:38:57.120 yes this one

00:38:58.020 here we go

00:38:59.800 I mean it stinks

00:39:00.620 it stinks

00:39:01.420 to high heavens

00:39:02.180 three jackasses 1.00

00:39:03.340 in a garage

00:39:04.080 somehow

00:39:04.800 get a contract

00:39:06.080 for what it

00:39:07.100 turned out to be

00:39:07.740 turned into

00:39:08.160 60 million dollars

00:39:09.340 for an app

00:39:10.040 it should have

00:39:10.780 cost in you know

00:39:11.700 less than

00:39:12.260 100,000 or something

00:39:13.980 to begin with

00:39:14.540 it was ridiculous

00:39:15.400 padding their pockets

00:39:17.160 it reeks of corruption

00:39:18.240 the records have been

00:39:19.180 destroyed or they

00:39:20.080 can't find them

00:39:20.800 this is the latest

00:39:21.520 out is the

00:39:22.100 auditor general

00:39:23.060 Karen Hogan

00:39:23.660 she said yes

00:39:24.900 suspicious lack

00:39:25.640 of records

00:39:26.120 regarding the program

00:39:27.140 it went over budget

00:39:28.300 you know

00:39:29.060 on sweetheart

00:39:29.600 contracting

00:39:30.360 it's a ripoff

00:39:32.320 we got hooped

00:39:33.460 it turns out

00:39:34.720 these clowns

00:39:36.100 and guess when

00:39:36.640 they started

00:39:37.020 their company

00:39:37.560 yeah

00:39:38.600 right when

00:39:40.260 Trudeau got elected

00:39:41.060 coincidence

00:39:41.640 I'm sure

00:39:42.140 since Trudeau

00:39:43.760 got elected

00:39:44.140 since they

00:39:44.620 started their

00:39:45.060 company

00:39:45.300 they've gotten

00:39:46.020 almost a quarter

00:39:47.140 billion dollars

00:39:48.560 in contracts

00:39:49.420 the arrive can

00:39:52.520 ripoff

00:39:53.540 that they've done

00:39:54.140 that's just

00:39:54.880 one of them

00:39:55.400 we haven't even

00:39:55.960 audited and looked

00:39:56.680 into all the other

00:39:57.260 stuff that's been

00:39:57.780 tossed at these

00:39:58.420 guys

00:39:58.720 why were these

00:39:59.860 guys given

00:40:00.400 so many

00:40:01.160 sole source

00:40:01.940 contracts worth

00:40:02.900 240 million

00:40:05.220 dollars

00:40:05.900 you'd think

00:40:07.200 our legislators

00:40:07.940 would be able

00:40:08.400 to pull them

00:40:08.820 before the

00:40:09.160 parliament

00:40:09.400 before committee

00:40:09.980 and at least

00:40:10.380 start the process

00:40:11.260 of asking

00:40:11.740 questions

00:40:12.180 and that's

00:40:12.640 what the

00:40:12.840 conservatives

00:40:13.200 tried to do

00:40:14.060 in parliament

00:40:14.840 yesterday

00:40:15.360 and guess

00:40:15.820 what

00:40:16.320 liberals

00:40:17.800 blocked their

00:40:18.620 effort to

00:40:19.360 subpoena

00:40:19.800 and force

00:40:20.560 those guys

00:40:21.040 to come in

00:40:21.600 to the

00:40:22.080 hearings

00:40:22.440 that tells

00:40:25.500 me they're

00:40:25.780 complicit

00:40:26.180 that tells

00:40:27.440 me the

00:40:27.840 liberals

00:40:28.220 are tied

00:40:28.980 up in

00:40:30.060 this

00:40:30.300 look

00:40:30.500 I've

00:40:31.920 participated

00:40:32.720 in writing

00:40:33.300 political spin

00:40:34.160 I've done

00:40:34.560 those sorts

00:40:34.880 of things

00:40:35.080 when the

00:40:35.280 government's

00:40:35.520 in trouble

00:40:35.760 or not

00:40:36.760 when it's

00:40:37.200 something like

00:40:37.540 this

00:40:37.760 if your

00:40:38.060 government

00:40:38.360 had nothing

00:40:38.980 to do

00:40:39.240 it

00:40:39.320 your party

00:40:39.860 had nothing

00:40:40.420 to do

00:40:40.640 it

00:40:40.740 even if

00:40:41.020 it was

00:40:41.120 under

00:40:41.260 your watch

00:40:41.780 I know

00:40:41.940 it was

00:40:42.060 bad

00:40:42.240 for the

00:40:42.480 liberals

00:40:42.680 but your

00:40:42.960 best hope

00:40:43.460 would be

00:40:43.700 to get

00:40:44.280 up there

00:40:44.720 and be

00:40:45.500 indignant

00:40:45.820 and say

00:40:46.060 these guys

00:40:47.020 ripped off

00:40:47.600 Canadians

00:40:48.080 during an

00:40:48.600 emergency

00:40:48.980 these guys

00:40:49.860 stole

00:40:50.200 from the

00:40:50.540 taxpayers

00:40:51.120 this is

00:40:51.960 unacceptable

00:40:53.440 unspeakable

00:40:54.160 we're going

00:40:54.540 to bring

00:40:54.800 them forward

00:40:55.400 we're going

00:40:55.760 to investigate

00:40:56.200 this

00:40:56.520 we're going

00:40:56.760 to get

00:40:56.920 to the

00:40:57.240 bottom

00:40:57.500 of it

00:40:57.760 and some

00:40:58.020 heads

00:40:58.260 are going

00:40:58.520 to roll

00:40:58.940 and you

00:40:59.600 keep that

00:41:00.220 high ground

00:41:01.620 and you

00:41:01.980 stay up

00:41:02.440 there

00:41:02.740 and make

00:41:03.660 yourself

00:41:04.020 even sound

00:41:04.440 like a

00:41:04.720 victim

00:41:04.940 you know

00:41:05.240 we got

00:41:05.680 robbed too

00:41:06.120 we trusted

00:41:06.780 these guys

00:41:07.320 with tax

00:41:08.160 dollars

00:41:08.500 and look

00:41:08.820 what they

00:41:09.120 did

00:41:09.420 but instead

00:41:10.420 instead

00:41:11.980 the liberals

00:41:13.440 know how to

00:41:13.880 spin

00:41:14.120 so they chose

00:41:14.820 not to do

00:41:15.580 that

00:41:15.980 they chose

00:41:16.860 instead

00:41:17.240 to try

00:41:17.760 and shut 0.99

00:41:18.300 down

00:41:18.740 efforts

00:41:19.340 to have

00:41:19.840 these guys

00:41:20.360 speak

00:41:20.820 in front

00:41:21.200 of the

00:41:21.480 committee

00:41:21.780 that stinks

00:41:24.020 that means

00:41:25.160 they probably

00:41:26.320 have stuff

00:41:27.160 on the

00:41:27.960 liberals

00:41:28.260 it means

00:41:28.640 they don't

00:41:29.200 want the 0.55

00:41:29.660 public

00:41:29.920 to hear

00:41:30.320 because these

00:41:30.620 guys have

00:41:30.900 been hiding

00:41:31.300 they've been

00:41:31.960 subpoenaed

00:41:32.440 twice

00:41:32.840 and they've

00:41:33.800 refused to

00:41:34.600 show up

00:41:35.140 and this

00:41:36.460 effort from the

00:41:37.020 conservatives

00:41:37.380 was saying

00:41:37.800 okay we can

00:41:38.260 get a

00:41:39.000 sergeant of

00:41:39.720 arms

00:41:39.980 there is a

00:41:40.560 mechanism

00:41:40.920 it's been

00:41:41.340 done before

00:41:42.280 in the

00:41:44.080 Gomery inquiry

00:41:44.800 I believe

00:41:45.140 it was

00:41:45.460 there was

00:41:46.740 a fellow

00:41:47.300 was it

00:41:48.100 Gomery

00:41:48.680 or was it

00:41:49.220 so many

00:41:49.960 ripoffs

00:41:50.320 going on

00:41:50.640 or was it

00:41:50.880 the Airbus

00:41:51.280 it doesn't

00:41:51.620 matter

00:41:51.820 somebody

00:41:52.320 was dragged

00:41:52.860 physically

00:41:53.760 basically

00:41:54.280 to parliament

00:41:55.180 by law

00:41:56.160 by the

00:41:56.560 sergeant at

00:41:57.000 arms

00:41:57.240 so you can

00:41:57.580 make a

00:41:57.880 summons with

00:41:58.300 teeth

00:41:58.520 and say

00:41:58.760 you have

00:41:59.300 to show

00:41:59.620 up

00:41:59.760 it's like

00:42:00.000 a court

00:42:00.360 order

00:42:00.700 but the

00:42:02.020 liberals

00:42:02.380 shut down

00:42:03.040 that effort

00:42:03.400 they said

00:42:03.720 no we

00:42:04.140 will not

00:42:04.600 allow that

00:42:05.120 and they

00:42:05.860 stopped it

00:42:06.420 now the

00:42:06.640 conservatives

00:42:06.980 are going

00:42:07.180 to keep

00:42:07.360 trying

00:42:07.700 but we'll

00:42:09.020 see

00:42:09.380 because you

00:42:09.920 know what's

00:42:10.300 happening

00:42:10.580 quickly

00:42:11.000 Jagmeet Singh

00:42:11.920 is in

00:42:12.300 there

00:42:12.600 cuddling up

00:42:13.440 to Justin

00:42:13.940 like he

00:42:14.500 does

00:42:14.760 they cuddle

00:42:15.220 and he's

00:42:16.820 saying you

00:42:17.180 know we

00:42:17.860 can make

00:42:18.160 sure that

00:42:18.540 these guys

00:42:18.940 never have

00:42:19.460 to testify

00:42:19.880 in front of

00:42:20.320 parliament

00:42:20.640 what are you

00:42:21.900 going to

00:42:22.100 give me

00:42:22.380 Justin

00:42:22.660 what are we

00:42:23.260 going to

00:42:23.440 get now

00:42:23.980 am I

00:42:24.560 going to

00:42:24.660 get that

00:42:24.940 medicare

00:42:25.320 thing we've

00:42:25.720 been pushing

00:42:26.000 for for so

00:42:26.540 long will

00:42:27.000 we get more

00:42:27.520 pro-union

00:42:28.320 legislation

00:42:28.900 whatever

00:42:29.380 Jagmeet has

00:42:30.460 Trudeau over

00:42:31.120 a barrel

00:42:31.520 which means

00:42:32.720 he has us

00:42:33.120 over a barrel

00:42:33.800 he's willing

00:42:35.240 to cover up

00:42:35.960 probably people

00:42:37.660 who have robbed

00:42:38.460 us which sounds

00:42:39.520 like what these

00:42:39.960 guys did

00:42:40.540 the bloc as

00:42:42.180 well they

00:42:43.020 haven't been too

00:42:43.800 thrilled with this

00:42:44.400 idea of going

00:42:44.920 after them of

00:42:45.560 course not their

00:42:46.060 business was based

00:42:46.640 in Montreal

00:42:47.080 remember it's

00:42:48.560 been documented

00:42:49.400 Quebec has 0.62

00:42:51.300 the most corrupt

00:42:52.040 governance in

00:42:52.820 Canada it 0.51

00:42:53.420 always has

00:42:54.200 Quebecers look 0.96

00:42:54.980 at things a lot

00:42:55.660 differently than

00:42:56.240 the rest of us

00:42:56.900 do that's why

00:42:58.340 these things

00:42:58.680 always erupt out

00:42:59.520 of Quebec

00:42:59.860 they see

00:43:01.180 bribery and

00:43:02.300 inside dealing

00:43:03.160 and many of

00:43:03.860 those things is

00:43:04.400 just the way you

00:43:05.040 do business we

00:43:05.760 don't look at it

00:43:06.320 that way in

00:43:07.260 non Quebec

00:43:08.400 provinces but

00:43:09.340 Quebecers do 0.99

00:43:10.280 that's why these

00:43:11.760 scandals always

00:43:13.020 come out of

00:43:13.480 Quebec so the

00:43:14.800 bloc is kind of

00:43:15.680 there you know

00:43:16.280 what we don't

00:43:16.820 need to hear from

00:43:17.240 these guys

00:43:17.640 either it was

00:43:18.100 just something

00:43:18.440 that happened

00:43:18.820 you know it's

00:43:19.220 okay as long as

00:43:19.720 the money went

00:43:20.160 into the pockets

00:43:21.080 of Quebec

00:43:21.380 well it's okay

00:43:22.120 right guys are

00:43:23.760 getting screwed

00:43:24.220 but this can

00:43:25.700 blow up this

00:43:26.600 could be massive

00:43:27.480 I mean it's

00:43:28.360 already big it's

00:43:29.580 one more scandal

00:43:30.260 on a pile of

00:43:30.940 scandals and

00:43:31.400 Justin Trudeau just

00:43:32.040 keeps getting away

00:43:32.720 with it keeps

00:43:33.100 getting away with

00:43:33.640 it but when

00:43:35.220 they're now trying

00:43:36.160 when the government

00:43:36.640 is hiding they're

00:43:37.540 scrambling they're

00:43:38.440 trying to cover

00:43:39.240 this up that

00:43:40.120 means there's got

00:43:41.140 to be a connection

00:43:41.860 somewhere what are

00:43:43.280 they afraid of

00:43:44.200 what are they

00:43:44.580 afraid these guys

00:43:45.940 will say if

00:43:46.880 they're brought

00:43:47.400 before a committee

00:43:48.360 who are they

00:43:49.940 afraid these guys

00:43:50.820 will point towards

00:43:51.880 where does this

00:43:53.340 land is it a

00:43:54.060 cabinet member

00:43:54.800 is it a staffer

00:43:56.440 is it the prime

00:43:57.100 minister himself

00:43:57.700 I don't know

00:43:58.640 we can't know

00:43:59.900 because the

00:44:00.380 government won't

00:44:01.360 allow us to

00:44:02.020 publicly investigate

00:44:02.840 this can't let

00:44:05.020 it go can't let

00:44:06.420 them get away with

00:44:06.960 it again but they

00:44:07.940 might they bloody

00:44:09.540 well might they

00:44:10.240 certainly seem to

00:44:11.320 don't they

00:44:11.720 closing off

00:44:14.360 speaking of our

00:44:15.080 dollars going down

00:44:16.160 the toilet you

00:44:16.540 know this is one

00:44:16.940 that hasn't made

00:44:17.400 enough news but

00:44:17.940 again has been

00:44:18.480 that flood this

00:44:19.340 this riches of

00:44:21.840 news I guess you

00:44:22.680 could say in a

00:44:23.320 bad way to deal

00:44:24.580 with but finance

00:44:25.600 minister Christia

00:44:26.320 Freeland yes

00:44:27.000 everybody's favorite

00:44:27.880 little munchkin

00:44:28.620 there has granted

00:44:30.660 herself the authority

00:44:31.780 to increase federal

00:44:33.140 borrowing to

00:44:34.680 517 billion dollars

00:44:37.780 yeah 73 billion

00:44:39.640 higher than

00:44:41.080 estimated already

00:44:42.040 they're spending

00:44:43.580 us into oblivion

00:44:44.780 they're desperate

00:44:45.320 they're in the

00:44:45.860 toilet in the polls

00:44:46.680 their chances of

00:44:47.320 getting reelected

00:44:47.880 are next to none

00:44:48.620 they're hoping they

00:44:49.720 can buy our love

00:44:51.140 with borrowed money

00:44:52.180 they're borrowing

00:44:53.140 on the backs of

00:44:53.980 your children or at

00:44:54.620 the rate they're

00:44:55.060 going great great

00:44:55.800 grandchildren to

00:44:57.180 try and buy your

00:44:58.200 love and somehow

00:44:59.360 survive the next

00:45:00.220 election and it's

00:45:00.900 not going to happen

00:45:01.840 but they can sure

00:45:02.720 cause a heck of a

00:45:03.840 lot of damage while

00:45:04.920 they're doing it so

00:45:05.600 they raise the federal

00:45:06.360 debt ceiling for

00:45:07.760 1.168 trillion to

00:45:09.620 1.831 trillion

00:45:11.420 1.831 trillion

00:45:14.940 in a country of

00:45:16.400 40 million people

00:45:17.440 it's a massive

00:45:18.640 amount an almost

00:45:19.460 insurmountable amount

00:45:20.580 of debt that we

00:45:22.280 pay for we will

00:45:23.360 pay for we pay

00:45:24.220 interest on we pay

00:45:25.120 debt servicing costs

00:45:25.900 as money flushed

00:45:26.860 down the toilet

00:45:27.440 welcome to Canada

00:45:29.760 guys you wonder

00:45:31.820 why I talk about

00:45:32.740 independence for the

00:45:33.500 West well so

00:45:35.480 again as I said

00:45:36.320 earlier if citizens

00:45:37.580 don't engage if we

00:45:38.260 don't pay attention

00:45:38.820 we don't take part

00:45:39.740 the West can screw

00:45:40.680 itself just as

00:45:41.480 effectively as

00:45:42.640 central Canada does

00:45:43.600 it's up to us we

00:45:44.520 got to stay engaged

00:45:45.360 we got to stay on

00:45:46.100 top of it we got to

00:45:46.740 stay on top of the

00:45:47.300 politicians we have

00:45:48.580 to get on the

00:45:49.120 ground we have to

00:45:50.280 watch the news as

00:45:51.500 frustrating as it

00:45:52.220 might be as gray as

00:45:53.120 it makes our hair 0.50

00:45:53.960 because it won't

00:45:55.460 change if we don't

00:45:56.280 try might fail even

00:45:57.900 if we do try but at

00:45:58.780 least you tried and

00:46:00.120 we got to keep

00:46:00.520 trying all right

00:46:01.820 that's all I got for

00:46:03.220 this week guys be

00:46:03.900 sure to turn in

00:46:04.540 tonight it is going to

00:46:05.280 be a good one with

00:46:06.500 the pipeline yes and

00:46:07.500 there will be

00:46:07.960 discussions with

00:46:08.700 premier smith's address

00:46:10.720 to the province and

00:46:12.200 lots of other

00:46:12.680 subjects to cover and

00:46:13.640 of course I will be

00:46:14.460 back again next week

00:46:15.860 and we will go through

00:46:16.820 the latest of issues

00:46:17.600 at that time with a

00:46:18.440 whole new guest and

00:46:19.220 see what's happening

00:46:20.960 so thanks for tuning

00:46:21.640 in we'll see you next

00:46:22.300 week

00:46:22.520 Canadian shooting

00:46:25.280 sports association

00:46:26.380 without the CSSA our

00:46:28.040 gun rights would have

00:46:28.700 been taken long long

00:46:30.640 ago these guys are on

00:46:31.780 the front lines helping

00:46:33.200 to draft smart and

00:46:34.780 intelligent firearms

00:46:35.960 regulations and

00:46:37.380 legislation in Canada

00:46:38.400 and more importantly

00:46:39.820 educating the public

00:46:40.900 about how we keep guns

00:46:42.520 out of the hands of the

00:46:43.320 wrong people we've

00:46:44.300 become a member it's

00:46:45.260 absolutely worth every

00:46:46.660 penny

00:46:46.960 you

00:47:16.960 You

Western Standard - February 22, 2024

CMS： Public sector unions must be reined in

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