Western Standard - CMS： The Kamloops Residential School graves were a hoax

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00:07:23.980 I don't like it.

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00:07:29.460 I'm going to call it a hoax.

00:07:30.440 And with every day that investigations are delayed,

00:07:33.000 I'm more and more confident I'm correct.

00:07:34.940 Well, that's what's got me wound up today.

00:07:37.000 Let's see what else is happening out the big bad world.

00:07:40.000 And in the news, I'm sure I'll be stirred up and pissed off about as well.

00:07:43.000 We've got our news editor, Dave Naylor, in studio to give us a rundown on this week's news.

00:07:46.420 How's it going, Dave?

00:07:47.060 Good, Corey.

00:07:47.640 I'd just like to say ditto.

00:07:49.300 Great rant.

00:07:49.980 Oh, thanks.

00:07:50.600 Great rant.

00:07:51.580 Where has the summer gone?

00:07:52.840 Holy cow. 0.89

00:07:53.440 August already?

00:07:54.600 It's lasted by.

00:07:55.420 Yeah, as you say, a couple of weeks till the leaves change and bang, that's it.

00:07:59.800 You know, I was a bit jealous of you last week or so when there was a video that you put out.

00:08:06.140 Every week when we were children, my parents would pack up my sister and I,

00:08:11.040 they would take us, try and lose us in the mountains around Banff and Jaspery.

00:08:15.980 They'd wander through the hills.

00:08:17.680 Looking for gingerbread houses.

00:08:18.640 Yeah, stuff like that.

00:08:19.780 And they were always upset because we'd always beat them back to the car and they couldn't get away.

00:08:24.600 And we, you know, through the years we've seen lots of wildlife from grizzly bears to, you know, the elk and all that sort of good stuff.

00:08:31.640 Two things I haven't seen, a wolverine and a cougar.

00:08:35.820 And you've got like a whole pack of those cougars wandering by your place. 0.66

00:08:39.420 I mean, holy cow.

00:08:40.140 A trio.

00:08:40.800 And I still haven't seen them with my own eyes.

00:08:42.580 Just our game cameras.

00:08:43.720 It shows how shy those things are.

00:08:44.980 But yeah, three of them went walking behind my house a couple of weeks ago together.

00:08:50.240 I mean, I've never seen them in a pack.

00:08:51.940 I mean, they're scary enough to think of as one, but three of them.

00:08:55.000 That's kind of freaked Jane out at night, eh?

00:08:56.760 A little bit.

00:08:57.260 She doesn't go around the woods at night though, so that, you know, tends to be safe. 1.00

00:09:00.360 It's just our idiot dogs that run back there. 1.00

00:09:02.040 So far, they're still king. 1.00

00:09:03.080 Hopefully Duke the Wonder Dog doesn't do anything stupid. 0.99

00:09:05.880 I mean, I'd rather take on a bear than a coo. 1.00

00:09:08.840 Oh, absolutely.

00:09:09.620 I mean, you think of a cougar.

00:09:10.400 You think of a house cat that is this big and it can rip your arms to shreds and jump that high.

00:09:14.000 Now, just imagine that the size of a cougar.

00:09:16.100 I mean, they're dead before you even know they're there.

00:09:17.760 Anyways, let's go on to something cheery.

00:09:20.200 The news.

00:09:20.780 Yes.

00:09:21.100 And holy cow, another busy week.

00:09:22.620 So busy, I haven't even had time to shave.

00:09:25.260 I don't know about you, Corey.

00:09:26.440 I like lighthouses.

00:09:28.240 They're pretty to look at.

00:09:29.500 They're great.

00:09:30.540 Historic.

00:09:30.940 So the Coast Guard announced today they're shutting down two of them in BC, basically because they're about to fall into the ocean.

00:09:37.980 So they're shutting down these two historic lighthouses there.

00:09:42.500 Got a nice exclusive on Phoebe, beautiful Calgary German Shepherd who was over in the Olympics being a bomb sniffer. 0.97

00:09:49.400 And her handler from the Calgary Police Service doing diligent work over there in Paris.

00:09:56.200 More on the fallout of the Jasper wildfires.

00:09:59.140 You know, all the stories are coming out now that, you know, the feds had years to prepare.

00:10:03.720 They knew it was common.

00:10:05.100 But despite that, they still lost 358 buildings in that wildfire.

00:10:11.240 So obviously more and more questions will be asked.

00:10:15.680 A little bit of a joke for you, Corey.

00:10:17.240 You won't find funny, but neither will taxpayers.

00:10:20.760 Canadian government spent $600,000 on a four-day stand-up fest in Montreal.

00:10:27.300 This was to replace the defunct Just for Laughs festival.

00:10:31.520 And, hey, they thought it was worth sticking $600,000 worth of our money into that.

00:10:36.840 A huge day, evening from the Middle East.

00:10:40.480 Israel had a double whammy, so to speak, today. 0.57

00:10:43.440 They wiped out the head of Hamas in an assassination in Tehran.

00:10:48.520 Earlier, they had killed a senior Hezbollah leader in Beirut, proving their military correct, that these were dead men walking. 0.62

00:10:59.960 Pierre Polyev, CBC, gave him another excuse today to defend them.

00:11:04.720 One of their chief correspondents, based in Europe, was mourning the loss of the Hamas leader.

00:11:12.840 Our Dave Makachuk's got an interesting column.

00:11:15.220 You'll remember the Olympic massacre in 1972 of the Israeli athletes.

00:11:20.440 The head of Israel at the time, a lady called Golda Meir, unleashed what they called the wrath of God.

00:11:29.140 And they systematically hunted down anywhere in the world and killed anybody involved in that Israeli massacre in the Olympics. 0.55

00:11:36.880 And that's just what they've done now in the Middle East after the killings. 0.90

00:11:43.920 And speaking of unrest, lots of fallout in Southport, Scotland.

00:11:49.780 A massive riot overnight injured more than 50 cops.

00:11:53.000 All came about after mistaken internet reports that the person who broke into the daycare and killed the three little girls was a migrant.

00:12:02.920 That fueled riots and police vehicles were burned.

00:12:07.060 A mosque was attacked.

00:12:08.640 And just ugly, ugly scenes over there, Corey.

00:12:12.240 Yeah, no, levels and levels of tragedy in that one.

00:12:14.820 It's just been a bad circumstance all around.

00:12:16.760 Nothing, nothing horrifies people more than children being killed.

00:12:20.240 No, those little girls didn't deserve this. 1.00

00:12:23.680 You know, it's just horrific.

00:12:25.880 No, well, let's keep reporting on things and hoping somehow eventually the world evolves into some sort of civilized state and sanity.

00:12:35.240 Yeah, you know what?

00:12:36.340 We've got Canada doing quite well at the Olympics.

00:12:38.800 There we go.

00:12:39.360 And we've got another two weeks of that to keep us out.

00:12:41.180 There are some distractions we can watch and relax and lighten up a bit sometimes.

00:12:44.980 Yep, go Canada, go.

00:12:46.360 Right on.

00:12:46.880 All right, thanks, Dave.

00:12:47.720 Dave, I'll let you get back into that newsroom all hairy and overworked there and keep reporting that news for us. 0.99

00:12:54.560 See you at the pipeline later tonight.

00:12:56.220 You bet.

00:12:57.120 Right on.

00:12:57.500 Thanks, Dave.

00:12:58.640 That is our news editor, Dave Naylor.

00:13:00.420 I see, yes, lots going on.

00:13:01.740 Sadly, a lot of it is bad news, rough news, harsh news.

00:13:05.660 But we've got to cover it.

00:13:06.720 We've got to keep up with it.

00:13:07.900 And we do report on the other things.

00:13:09.380 We have lots of stories.

00:13:10.500 The site is loaded with stories.

00:13:12.280 We're one of the most prolific news organizations in Canada these days, actually.

00:13:16.620 And the reason we are, this is when I put that out there, guys, is because of you, because of subscribers.

00:13:21.540 We stay independent.

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00:13:51.980 Jordan commenting, no man has ever been killed by a cougar.

00:13:54.820 I think if we look back, there have been a couple cases in B.C. over the years and maybe something in California.

00:14:01.100 But the point made, though, is that it's extremely, extremely rare.

00:14:05.640 And if they do, typically cougars, actually, if they attack humans, they're usually children and women.

00:14:10.500 So, yes, they go for the smaller.

00:14:12.000 It's just their nature is hunters.

00:14:13.500 They're frightening animals.

00:14:15.240 But in reality, I mean, I show those pictures on my game cam all the time.

00:14:18.780 They're all over the place in Critice, yet attacks on people virtually never happen.

00:14:23.720 And when you think there's thousands of cougars out there, thousands and thousands of people going into the woods every day and they aren't getting attacked.

00:14:29.200 As scary as those animals are, you shouldn't lose too much sleep over them because typically they're just not into eating folks.

00:14:38.360 Yeah, lots of other stuff on the go.

00:14:40.580 Talking about those riots in England.

00:14:43.100 And it reflects some of the tension going on in the world and everywhere.

00:14:47.140 A number of factors are coming together there.

00:14:49.660 It shows the problems with a mob, right?

00:14:53.620 When the government, your people don't feel that the government is protecting them enough, if they aren't doing justice, then citizens stand up and they will take care of it themselves.

00:15:03.080 But unfortunately, citizens aren't necessarily controlled.

00:15:05.780 They aren't necessarily nuanced and they won't necessarily target the right people.

00:15:11.440 Europe, England, and it's happening, it's growing in Canada, but it's more acute over there.

00:15:16.280 Paris, actually, when they aren't holding the Olympics.

00:15:17.880 There's been a lot of immigration.

00:15:19.960 There's been a lot of difficulty with integration of many of the new citizens coming in.

00:15:25.640 And hey, again, if we're going to be talking blunt speaking today, mostly it's typically Islamic people. 1.00

00:15:31.020 They tend to be introverted.

00:15:33.340 They tend to have more problematic people come out of their population that have difficulty integrating than others.

00:15:39.180 We just, for example, had two charges laid in Toronto against people who suspected of planning terrorism.

00:15:46.320 And you look at the names and sure enough, they are Islamic folks.

00:15:48.620 It's not saying all Islamic folks are terrorists.

00:15:50.560 That's where we start getting into the mistake.

00:15:52.460 Most of them by far are not.

00:15:54.640 But somehow with that faith, you get more difficulty than other areas.

00:15:58.080 So when that horrible murder happened of children, everybody was horrified.

00:16:02.760 The mobs came out and they went to attack a mosque.

00:16:06.060 Now, this is just based on internet rumors.

00:16:08.080 It doesn't sound like this had anything to do with Islam.

00:16:10.580 But once the mob was hyped up, things went badly.

00:16:14.120 Officers hurt.

00:16:14.940 Police dogs hurt.

00:16:16.020 Damage done.

00:16:17.000 And of course, the community is more divided than ever.

00:16:19.620 So we've got to address the issues.

00:16:21.820 We've got to address integration.

00:16:22.940 We've got to address how we're getting along.

00:16:24.840 Or the mobs will take over.

00:16:27.580 And it'll be a heck of a lot uglier than a controlled way of dealing with having new people in nations and having them integrate and get along.

00:16:34.900 Okay, let's get to our guest there, Colin Craig of secondstreet.org.

00:16:38.220 Because they put out a documentary recently.

00:16:40.100 And it's fantastic, actually, especially if you're concerned about health care.

00:16:43.020 So welcome back to the show, Colin.

00:16:44.760 I appreciate you coming on today.

00:16:46.500 Thanks for having me, Corey.

00:16:48.100 So I guess just to write it down in a nutshell, I think it was just a little over 40 minutes.

00:16:52.080 You've made a documentary talking about, you know, Canada's health care system, some of the problems holding it up.

00:16:58.200 Ideology is, of course, a big one of them.

00:17:00.100 But also proposing solutions.

00:17:02.220 You know, I guess, what are the main points and takeaways from that production?

00:17:07.660 Yeah, so you're right.

00:17:08.500 40 minutes, there's a lot in it.

00:17:10.280 We, of course, start off with the problem.

00:17:12.360 Just showing people a very important point.

00:17:16.560 And that is that money is not the solution.

00:17:18.280 We've been doing that, trying that for decades now.

00:17:21.280 It doesn't matter if you talk about conservative governments, liberal, NDP.

00:17:24.820 People always try and politicize this.

00:17:27.360 Governments across the political spectrum in different parts of the country, federal level, provincial level, they've all tried throwing money at the system and crossing their fingers and hoping for something to work out.

00:17:37.500 And yet the results just keep getting worse and worse and worse.

00:17:41.100 And, you know, one of the other points we make right off the hop is that we've got a lot of good people working in the system.

00:17:45.780 They're trying hard.

00:17:46.560 They're nurses, doctors.

00:17:47.600 They got into the health care because they want to help patients.

00:17:50.080 So we've got a lot of money in the system.

00:17:52.340 We've got a lot of decent people.

00:17:53.700 The problem is the structure itself is just not delivering good results compared with other universal health care systems.

00:18:01.460 And we explain that, too, to show that Canada is not the only country with a universal health care system.

00:18:06.840 France, Sweden, Norway, Japan.

00:18:09.360 And there's Australia.

00:18:10.700 There's lots of other countries around the world that do what Canadians like.

00:18:14.340 And that's the idea that everyone in the country is covered.

00:18:17.880 You're not going to face a big bill when you walk out after having a heart procedure or hip operation or whatever.

00:18:24.040 So there's lots of other countries that do what we want to do, and they're doing it much better than us.

00:18:29.560 So the bulk of the video looks at some of the things they're doing differently.

00:18:34.100 And we go through about five different policy options that we could embrace here in Canada and then start to see better results like what we're quite often seeing in Europe.

00:18:44.300 Yeah, and to start right off, I mean, that's where we get some confusion.

00:18:47.560 We get some defenders of the status quo, a couple of things.

00:18:51.200 For one, they like to pretend that Canada and the United States are the only systems on Earth, and that's absolutely untrue.

00:18:56.420 But the biggest fear people have, I think the principle that most people share, they want a universal system.

00:19:01.380 They want to make sure everybody's covered no matter what.

00:19:04.200 You're not going to get turned away from a hospital or bankrupted because you got injured or you were diagnosed with cancer or a disease that required a lot of treatment.

00:19:11.660 But if you can make people comfortable that they're going to have universal coverage, we shouldn't be afraid then in examining ways on how to provide the care while maintaining the coverage.

00:19:22.400 Exactly.

00:19:23.240 And, you know, I think when you talk to patients about what they want, like you said, they want that universal nature.

00:19:29.460 They want everyone to be covered.

00:19:30.880 They want to make sure people aren't getting a huge bill like we hear about in the U.S. when they leave.

00:19:35.020 So that's one.

00:19:36.060 They want quality treatment, and they want it in a timely manner.

00:19:39.400 I would say that those are the top three things that Canadian patients really want.

00:19:44.080 And if that's your goal as a nation, we can start to look at other models like Sweden and France and Australia and Japan and other countries because, you know, they're doing those types of – they're meeting those objectives.

00:19:58.120 They're doing it better than us.

00:19:59.240 And a big thing that a lot of countries do differently is there's not as much ideology in health care like you find in Canada.

00:20:06.740 There's always this great debate, oh, we can't do private because of this.

00:20:10.500 And what I'm referring to is, you know, having maybe your surgery in a private clinic and the government's paying for you to get it.

00:20:18.860 You know, people raise all these concerns.

00:20:22.100 And what we note is that, you know, in other countries, they don't always have that type of friction.

00:20:27.160 They think about, well, what's best for the patient?

00:20:29.260 Who can we as the government partner with to get the patient the best care possible?

00:20:35.100 I think that's how often they look at it.

00:20:37.380 It doesn't matter if it's maybe a government facility or a nonprofit or a for-profit.

00:20:42.500 They're less ideological.

00:20:44.300 And that is good for patients if governments are willing to fund whoever it is to provide care in a cost-effective manner, a safe manner, a way that ultimately benefits patients.

00:20:54.380 And, you know, we see some of this in Canada already, I mean, family doctors or private businesses, you go in, you meet with your family doctor, you leave.

00:21:02.640 And then when you're done, that doctor's office will build a government. 0.97

00:21:05.740 So we already have that.

00:21:07.220 Sometimes x-rays, blood tests will be done in private facilities, but people don't even know it.

00:21:12.660 So it's the idea is to maybe expand and do some other services to surgeries and other health procedures.

00:21:20.460 And then we could get some better bang for a buck.

00:21:22.360 One of the other things, Corey, that we talked about in the documentary is sort of changing how governments fund health care.

00:21:29.280 So right now, quite often what they do is they will cut a big check to a hospital and say, good luck.

00:21:35.480 You know, here at Foothills Hospital in Calgary, here's $200 million or whatever it is.

00:21:39.860 You know, we hope you can help a lot of patients this year.

00:21:42.620 And that's not a very effective way of funding health care.

00:21:45.120 So what they often do in other nations, we were just in France and they do it there, is they will fund health facilities every time they help a patient.

00:21:54.160 So they have a formula to say, okay, for a knee replacement, we're going to spend, say, whatever it is, $10,000.

00:21:59.200 So now that facility has the incentive to try and do a lot of knee surgeries, because then every time they do it, they're going to get more money.

00:22:09.420 We don't have that incentive right now in our health care system.

00:22:12.620 Governments have a budget.

00:22:13.620 Every time a patient comes in, the budget gets smaller and smaller and smaller.

00:22:16.900 And then at the end of the year, the facilities often go, well, sorry, you're going to have to wait until next year.

00:22:22.520 We don't have any money to do more knee surgeries.

00:22:25.540 So it's not very effective the way that we do it.

00:22:27.940 Changing that incentive model is one way that, another way, rather, that we can get better bang for our buck in the health care system.

00:22:35.780 Well, and if we could get over our hangups, get over the ideology and allow people to shop around, aside from changing the model to make it better for a hospital,

00:22:43.240 if a hospital is overwhelmed or if it turns out that a patient can get service, this is something that's happening in Europe, and I believe you pointed out,

00:22:50.640 they can go to a country next door, get this comparable service done, and have it paid for by the system through that.

00:22:59.100 Because the bottom line is, if the state's paying for the procedure, it doesn't really matter where it's getting done,

00:23:04.560 as long as it gets done in a reasonable manner and efficiently.

00:23:09.000 It opens a lot of doors for people to examine different ways to get the job done.

00:23:13.240 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:14.460 And that's something we talked about in the documentary, too.

00:23:16.700 So if you live in the EU, you can go to another EU country.

00:23:19.640 If you're facing a long wait time locally for, let's say, cataract surgery, you can go to another EU country,

00:23:26.160 pay for that cataract surgery, and then get reimbursed by your home country.

00:23:30.640 The reimbursement goes up to what that home country would spend locally.

00:23:34.300 So, you know, that protects them from just having to write blank checks.

00:23:39.040 It's just a way of getting treatment to their patients faster.

00:23:43.640 And obviously, traveling for surgery is not for everyone.

00:23:47.140 That's obvious.

00:23:49.200 But some people, they will do it.

00:23:51.140 And when that happens, if you're on a waiting list and someone ahead of you in line decides to go somewhere else for treatment

00:23:56.520 and you don't want to do that, well, then you get to move up a spot.

00:23:59.260 So it benefits everyone.

00:24:01.220 Well, that's it.

00:24:02.080 And what people don't seem to be realizing as well.

00:24:04.200 I mean, our issue isn't funding.

00:24:05.840 As you said, we spend enough.

00:24:07.260 We spend a lot.

00:24:08.600 It's access.

00:24:09.380 I mean, it doesn't matter how much we spend.

00:24:11.900 It doesn't matter how great.

00:24:13.060 And we do have great health professionals.

00:24:14.800 If you can't get to them in a timely manner, it's terrible.

00:24:19.620 And it costs the economy when people are waiting for care.

00:24:22.760 The consequences are huge.

00:24:24.780 You're right.

00:24:25.500 It costs people lost income sometimes when they can't work because they're waiting for, you know, hip operation or whatever,

00:24:31.880 some other problem to get resolved.

00:24:34.740 It can lead to depression.

00:24:36.620 You know, when people have to sit on the sidelines of life, they're dealing with chronic pain.

00:24:42.340 You know, we've talked to patients that have told us they've had very dark thoughts.

00:24:46.680 You can look at addiction, too, as people are popping painkillers for a year.

00:24:50.260 I mean, these painkillers aren't meant to be popped for a year straight.

00:24:53.560 They're typically meant for short periods of time until you can get surgery.

00:24:56.900 But here in Canada, so often we just let people pop painkillers for a year or two.

00:25:01.260 And it's very highly unethical.

00:25:03.260 The other major consequence, of course, is death.

00:25:05.500 Some people are dying because the government isn't getting them the care they need in time.

00:25:10.720 And that is appalling.

00:25:12.720 It's not acceptable in a developed nation like ours.

00:25:14.980 So we desperately need to be looking at health reform options to get patients the care they need.

00:25:20.180 So one of the other, you know, when it was debated a lot when we talk about, say, having private facilities, providing services, things like that, even if we can prove that, you know, it would keep the doctors here.

00:25:31.420 Some people say, well, then the people paying to jump the line will take up all of the time of the professionals and these private facilities will take all of the best and brightest and people in the public system will be left with the dregs and second rate care.

00:25:45.640 How would that not happen?

00:25:47.420 What would prevent that from happening?

00:25:48.840 Well, if we think about the end point, I think we have to ask a question.

00:25:53.280 How is it that Sweden can make that work where patients have a choice between the public system or private options if they want to pay privately?

00:26:01.700 And in Sweden, by the way, most people use the public system.

00:26:04.540 It's something like 85 percent.

00:26:06.680 About 15 percent have private health insurance and they will use private treatment options.

00:26:12.620 But most people still rely on the public system and Sweden has found a way to get that done.

00:26:18.380 France, another great example.

00:26:20.420 The French have that option, too.

00:26:22.860 Australia.

00:26:23.740 I mean, around the world, people have figured it out.

00:26:26.360 So we know it can be done.

00:26:28.260 And when your viewers are hearing this claim from people that don't want health reform, they don't want choice, they say the sky will fall.

00:26:36.980 I would urge them to think, well, wait a second.

00:26:39.080 And why would those people be saying that when we know it can be done in other countries?

00:26:44.460 Either they're defeatists or they have some kind of ulterior motive.

00:26:48.100 And, you know, in many cases, it's they have a monopoly.

00:26:51.120 They have complete control.

00:26:52.260 They don't want anyone challenging their control.

00:26:54.760 So they come up with all this fear mongering.

00:26:57.660 In some countries, what they will do is they will have caps.

00:27:00.760 They will say to doctors, you can only, you know, you work in the public system and you can only work so much privately.

00:27:07.480 And then that way they make sure there's, you know, enough capacity in the public system.

00:27:13.340 In France, what they do is they use what we were talking about before.

00:27:17.440 That's paying health facilities by procedure.

00:27:20.320 They call it activity-based funding.

00:27:22.140 So it doesn't matter if a patient chooses to go to a private facility or a public one or whatever.

00:27:27.480 The government's going to pay for that procedure at a rate of X, whatever the procedure is and how much they've figured out they're going to pay.

00:27:35.240 So there's definitely different ways that you can do it.

00:27:39.000 I think it's an important consideration if you're going to be giving patients choices to make sure that there is that capacity in the public system, but also giving patients options.

00:27:48.380 And one thing I think to keep in mind is that we will so often ration access to care in Canada.

00:27:57.180 So that means ultimately that if you're a surgeon, your income potential may only be this much because that's as much as the government is willing to fund for you to do, say, knee surgeries each year.

00:28:08.060 And often these knee surgeons have time on their hands.

00:28:12.600 They'll be twiddling their thumbs because they can only do so much.

00:28:15.100 That's all the government's going to let them do.

00:28:18.240 Well, if you give them the option of working privately too, then they might be able to supplement their income and make more.

00:28:24.340 So if they're earning this much, they might be thinking, well, I'm going to move to the U.S. because I can make this much.

00:28:30.560 But if in Canada we give them that opportunity to supplement their income in the private sector, then they can earn more here and maybe they stay here instead of leaving our country.

00:28:39.660 So I think you might actually see the opposite.

00:28:42.200 When you give health care workers more options and ways to make money, then more people are going to decide to stay in Canada.

00:28:50.500 And I believe the French model is a lot like that.

00:28:52.320 They have private hospitals and it's regulated.

00:28:55.160 You know, it's got to be whatever, 60 or 70 percent has to be in the public system.

00:28:58.060 But the other 30 percent, hey, use those hallways, use those specialists, however you will.

00:29:01.920 Charge whatever you think you can.

00:29:03.320 And that way the doctor can buy his yacht through the people who want to pay extra, perhaps from other countries bringing money in.

00:29:09.600 You keep the specialist there and the public can get that top level doctor as opposed to potentially losing them in a public system when we're in an international market.

00:29:18.720 I mean, there's a lot of countries that will reach out and get a hold of that cardiac surgeon or that orthopedic surgeon or that oncologist.

00:29:25.380 I mean, we have to get pragmatic here.

00:29:27.780 Oh, for sure.

00:29:28.460 You know, we were in France.

00:29:29.600 Like I said, we were in France just a couple of weeks ago.

00:29:32.000 We walked through a private hospital.

00:29:34.760 We walked through a government run hospital that was actually run pretty well.

00:29:38.640 And that's because of the activity based funding.

00:29:40.500 They changed the incentive model in terms of how that hospital receives money.

00:29:43.740 So they were starting to do all kinds of innovative things.

00:29:46.460 We walked into a large room where there were all these patients and it was a room for them to wake up in after they've had surgery and their anesthetic wears off.

00:29:59.660 And there were no walls in this room.

00:30:02.480 You could see quite a large room and there were all these patients, maybe five or seven or something like that.

00:30:09.020 And I said, oh, this is interesting.

00:30:10.960 There's no walls.

00:30:11.760 And the person at the hospital said, well, it's more effective this way.

00:30:16.120 If you're a health care worker, you can keep your eyes on more patients instead of having to go from room to room to room to room.

00:30:24.000 And it's more effective.

00:30:25.700 It was more cost effective, too.

00:30:27.520 So, you know, that changed because the government changed the incentive model.

00:30:31.680 So you start to see more innovation, more good ideas coming from the grassroots up.

00:30:35.420 So, yeah, there's a lot of ways where we can learn from these European countries and find ways to deliver health care more cost effectively.

00:30:45.000 Last year, we went to Sweden.

00:30:46.500 We walked through and met with people that were running a government-owned hospital.

00:30:52.440 So the government owned the hospital, but it was a private company that managed it.

00:30:56.720 And that private company was able to deliver health services, same quality, but for a lower cost, somewhere between 15% and 30% lower, depending on the calculation and, you know, different people's understandings of what's going on.

00:31:11.520 But, yeah, I mean, we should be taking overall a less ideological approach to health care, like I say, partner with whoever can help patients.

00:31:19.120 Because I think patients, at the end of the day, they just want that quality care in a timely manner.

00:31:25.240 Absolutely.

00:31:25.940 Well, I'm glad you guys have taken that on.

00:31:27.860 And you've laid it out really well in the documentary.

00:31:29.940 Just good common sense discussion.

00:31:31.860 So maybe, you know, people can just shed some of the ingrained prejudices or things that they were kind of trained to think the Canadian system is and just start looking at maybe we can do things better.

00:31:41.100 So before I let you go, I mean, of course, where are you going to find this documentary when folks sit down to watch it?

00:31:46.620 Yeah, so people can watch it for free if they go to healthreformnow.ca.

00:31:51.000 That's the name of the documentary, Health Reform Now.

00:31:53.220 So they can watch it at that website.

00:31:56.280 They can go on our Twitter feed, our Facebook feed, our YouTube feed.

00:32:00.760 We've got it posted everywhere.

00:32:02.000 But the easiest way is healthreformnow.ca.

00:32:05.280 Right on.

00:32:06.040 Well, thank you very much, Colin, for putting it together.

00:32:09.080 And like I said, I watched it.

00:32:10.060 It's a good watch.

00:32:10.940 I didn't have to force myself through it.

00:32:12.660 It's good and informative.

00:32:14.000 And I really do strongly recommend folks get out there, give it a watch when you've got 40 minutes free or break it up.

00:32:19.220 That's the great thing with stuff on demand and streaming.

00:32:21.620 I appreciate you guys putting that together and having you come on to explain it to us today.

00:32:26.760 Well, thanks for the opportunity, Corey.

00:32:28.440 Always enjoy the chat.

00:32:29.940 All right.

00:32:30.340 I'm sure we'll talk again soon, Colin.

00:32:31.880 Take care.

00:32:33.120 So again, folks, check it out.

00:32:34.380 Save that.

00:32:35.160 Healthreform.now.

00:32:36.320 Or as he said, secondstreet.org.

00:32:37.860 You know, they've put a lot into this documentary.

00:32:40.160 They're sharing it everywhere.

00:32:41.340 They want you to get out and watch it.

00:32:42.800 Get out and watch it.

00:32:43.680 Share it.

00:32:44.200 We've got to change the way people think about these things.

00:32:47.380 You know, the problem, the problem, one of the, so many problems.

00:32:50.800 But one of the things he's been pointing out is a monopoly.

00:32:52.800 Now, here's where the left and the right can kind of both be correct sometimes in pointing out when the citizen, the consumer, the person at the bottom is getting screwed.

00:33:04.560 And it's almost always a monopoly situation.

00:33:07.100 But we've got to remember, a government monopoly will screw you.

00:33:10.560 So will a private monopoly.

00:33:12.700 So what's the solution?

00:33:14.020 Break the monopolies.

00:33:15.360 Competition.

00:33:16.080 Get other options.

00:33:17.380 Have things in there.

00:33:18.060 You're no better off.

00:33:19.240 It doesn't matter who's got the monopoly.

00:33:21.080 If there is one standing over you, you aren't going to have a good time.

00:33:24.800 When it's something as important as health care, it's no wonder we're getting horrific service because there's only one manager, only one provider.

00:33:32.580 They've got no incentive to improve.

00:33:35.200 They've got incentives to avoid headaches.

00:33:37.600 They've got incentives to keep the unions happy. 0.98

00:33:39.780 They've got things like that, but they don't look out to you because it's not procedure-based service.

00:33:45.400 It's not looking to pay the bills through their services and goods or whatever.

00:33:49.680 It's a monopoly.

00:33:51.100 So think of things that way.

00:33:52.200 A monopoly is a terrible place to be in as a consumer.

00:33:57.800 And you just can't do any better.

00:33:59.560 You know, we've got to break it up.

00:34:01.740 Speaking of which, you know, speaking of governments and how inefficient they are, for people who watch Calgary News and things out here, the green line.

00:34:07.560 I just like ranting about that one because this is a beauty.

00:34:10.560 This is an LRT, light rail transit, expansion.

00:34:14.280 They've been talking about it for like 16, 17 years in Calgary.

00:34:17.320 Now it's on and on and on.

00:34:20.180 Nothing's getting done.

00:34:21.200 They've done a bunch of ripping up stuff downtown.

00:34:23.200 They're doing some underground utility work apparently.

00:34:25.000 But what the government does, so the city of Calgary managed to get billions out of the federal government and the provincial government.

00:34:31.660 Of course, they get billions of the Calgarian taxpayers and spent a decade on this thing.

00:34:35.540 Still not an inch of track laid yet.

00:34:37.840 I believe they spent one and a half billion so far.

00:34:41.520 The other levels of government basically said, we've given you enough.

00:34:43.900 We're done.

00:34:44.880 Make do.

00:34:45.340 So what have they done?

00:34:45.920 They keep shrinking it.

00:34:47.560 It's like I said, it's like a pecker in a cold swimming pool.

00:34:50.100 This thing is shriveling up so fast.

00:34:52.080 Every time they give a new report on it, it gets shorter.

00:34:54.460 The price doesn't get any lower.

00:34:55.680 It's up to $6 billion now.

00:34:57.040 And this thing is barely going to go outside of downtown.

00:35:00.900 No private business could run that way for 16 years.

00:35:05.540 Shareholders, others would fire them.

00:35:07.820 They would pull out.

00:35:08.500 The business would go broke.

00:35:09.360 But when it's government, they can just keep going and going and going.

00:35:13.000 And you get hooped.

00:35:14.660 So what we're going to have one day is a grossly over-budget project that goes from downtown Calgary

00:35:23.340 into a part of town that doesn't have many people in it.

00:35:27.380 And who knows when it's going to get done.

00:35:30.000 We've got to start rethinking our urban design anyways.

00:35:34.200 Downtowns, who goes downtown anymore?

00:35:36.720 I mean, people still do, but it's not like it used to be.

00:35:38.960 And Calgary has a massive downtown vacancy problem going on right now.

00:35:43.040 And most downtown urban centers do.

00:35:45.260 One of the consequences of COVID that people discovered is a lot of people discovered,

00:35:49.520 I don't have to go to the office every day.

00:35:51.480 A lot of those businesses realized, we don't need the staff in here every day.

00:35:55.540 A lot of them can work remotely.

00:35:56.940 And they have.

00:35:57.720 And they've stayed that way.

00:35:59.300 Now, we've got the government workers who are staying that way, but they aren't actually working.

00:36:01.700 They're just sitting around home playing Minecraft.

00:36:03.160 But that's a separate story.

00:36:04.740 All the same, we have a surplus of office space.

00:36:07.700 These aren't growing areas.

00:36:09.040 We're trying to figure out how to fill them.

00:36:11.020 Adding more train service into these centers isn't the way to go.

00:36:14.040 We should be planning our city's understanding and realizing that people

00:36:16.440 don't need to come into these dense urban cores anymore.

00:36:19.760 They can live outside.

00:36:21.960 So let's look at transit service and how we can service that

00:36:24.640 rather than these giant projects that don't work.

00:36:28.240 They don't go anywhere.

00:36:29.720 And here we are in Calgary.

00:36:31.340 We've seen the same thing in Ottawa.

00:36:32.540 Theirs is a disaster.

00:36:34.080 Edmonton's is a disaster.

00:36:35.680 And those are the other things too, though.

00:36:36.920 So if you're going to do these mega projects, get the private market in on it more.

00:36:41.360 Get the government out as much as possible.

00:36:43.260 But hey, guess who's behind Calgary's?

00:36:46.220 SNC Lavelland.

00:36:47.540 Familiar name?

00:36:48.680 Yeah.

00:36:49.420 Thought so.

00:36:50.420 Boy, these names just keep popping up with these multi-billion dollar projects

00:36:53.240 where nothing gets done except a lot of pockets get lined.

00:36:56.060 And a lot of pockets get emptied.

00:36:58.120 Couldn't mind.

00:36:59.020 Lone Warrior saying, still no train to the airport.

00:37:00.760 Yes, in Calgary, if there was common sense, the north leg of one of the train lines goes

00:37:06.380 right up, right across from the airport.

00:37:08.060 It's actually kind of a straight shot across.

00:37:09.600 Flat ground.

00:37:10.060 A lot of it's undeveloped.

00:37:11.060 It's industrial, light industrial, and nothing out there.

00:37:14.260 From Saddletown, they could run a train out there.

00:37:16.660 Because most of the people who work at the airport, and there's thousands of them, plus

00:37:19.180 people who might want to use the train to get there to fly, would use that.

00:37:23.140 There's something that would make sense that would be used.

00:37:26.700 So, of course, the city isn't doing it.

00:37:28.540 Welcome to the realities, again, of Monopoly service and peckerheads in power that really

00:37:32.300 shouldn't be.

00:37:34.700 Getting on.

00:37:35.420 Yeah, let's tell you the other big news lately is the fire in Jasper.

00:37:38.520 Of course, it's still burning out that way.

00:37:40.440 It sounds like they got a lot of things under control.

00:37:41.960 But, I mean, 30% of the town was lost.

00:37:45.780 And a whole lot of I told you so's are going on.

00:37:48.540 A whole lot.

00:37:49.040 Here, I'm going to plug one of my own things, if you like.

00:37:51.540 Go to, you know, search Cory Morgan on YouTube.

00:37:53.460 I did a lot of videos in the past just on my own time and things like that.

00:37:56.480 And I did one warning about this kind of thing.

00:37:59.280 I went out into the woods and showed what a logging cut block looks like.

00:38:02.360 I showed what unlogged lodgepole pine stands look like.

00:38:06.220 Because people don't leave the house.

00:38:07.220 They don't go out in the bush.

00:38:07.960 I don't blame them.

00:38:08.480 That's okay.

00:38:09.120 I was a surveyor for 20 years.

00:38:10.580 I grew up in Banff.

00:38:11.440 I love the bush.

00:38:12.300 I'm familiar with it.

00:38:13.160 And I tell you what.

00:38:14.260 It's either got to be cut or it's got to burn.

00:38:16.560 Those are the only two options you have.

00:38:18.240 You can keep deferring it and kicking that can down the road.

00:38:20.300 But eventually, the burn will come.

00:38:23.120 And you won't have much control over how it's going to burn, how hot it's going to burn.

00:38:26.240 And we're hearing that.

00:38:27.280 Jasper was warned over and over from different authorities, from different forestry experts.

00:38:33.260 Guys, you've got a disaster pending here.

00:38:35.320 And they kept kicking the can down the road because, well, nobody wants that unpopular decision.

00:38:39.740 Nobody wants to go to the beautiful landscape of Jasper and see a cut block.

00:38:43.020 The granola munchers.

00:38:43.960 So, no, I despise them.

00:38:45.220 I grew up around them in Banff as well.

00:38:46.760 There's that little subculture that are there.

00:38:48.740 And they scream and howl about everything.

00:38:50.960 They would scream and howl if they heard a chainsaw off in the trees.

00:38:53.660 They would scream and howl if a dozer was out there knocking those bush down, making a fire break next to the town.

00:39:00.300 Too damn bad. 0.97

00:39:01.440 These guys don't pay any bloody taxes anyways. 0.99

00:39:03.620 Ignore them.

00:39:04.260 Get over it.

00:39:05.260 I mean, one of the experiments I remember as a kid in Banff in the 80s, because, again, the granolas got all worked up because they found out that we spray around Banff every spring for mosquitoes.

00:39:13.180 All the wet spots, the marshes, the swamps, they sprayed them.

00:39:16.320 Oh, my God, this is terrible.

00:39:17.580 You're poisoning everything.

00:39:18.600 It's awful.

00:39:19.080 So, you know what Parks Canada did?

00:39:20.180 One year, they didn't spray.

00:39:22.840 If you go to the mountains outside of the areas where they spray, you'll discover just how many black flies, horse flies, and mosquitoes there are out there.

00:39:29.540 There's billions of them.

00:39:30.360 The town was just swarmed.

00:39:32.360 It shut those bloody granola people up for a year or two at least. 1.00

00:39:36.900 And it certainly said the residents aren't going to put up with that crap anymore. 0.99

00:39:39.440 You know, we need some common sense. 0.98

00:39:40.900 It's not just national parks, guys.

00:39:42.340 We've got towns, communities in the Boreal Forest across the entire country, and a lot of them are tinderboxes right now, and we need to take care of that.

00:39:51.040 There's going to be more of these.

00:39:52.200 I mean, we're seeing more and more.

00:39:53.320 Before I get to Sean to talk about some things, I've got him in as well, just to dance on a grave.

00:40:00.240 I think this was one of Sean's stories anyways.

00:40:02.180 But, yes, Chorus Entertainment, speaking of companies that won't evolve, companies that won't change with the times, they're the ones who run global news and a lot of the radio stations and things like that.

00:40:13.720 They're going broke.

00:40:14.800 They're going broke.

00:40:15.340 Their shares are down to 10 cents a share now.

00:40:17.420 They're a penny stock.

00:40:18.040 They used to be, I don't know, 20 or 30 bucks, I think, 10 or 15 years ago.

00:40:20.980 They're in the toilet.

00:40:22.000 They're laying off people in the thousands, news hosts and everything else.

00:40:26.220 Well, what are they keeping?

00:40:27.560 Oh, DEI hires.

00:40:28.960 Yeah, diversity, equity, and inclusion.

00:40:30.680 They figure if we just go woke hard enough, we will defy economic reality and be able to pay our bills.

00:40:38.720 No, they're just driving viewers away.

00:40:40.380 But they still have a traffic helicopter.

00:40:42.700 That's important, right?

00:40:44.520 Yeah, because having somebody come on every 10 minutes with a static-filled report on what's happening in one segment of the city is much more important.

00:40:51.540 And so, you know, maybe just picking up your phone and checking Google.

00:40:55.660 But, yeah, change with the times.

00:40:57.900 You know the problem?

00:40:58.660 They're probably going to get bailed out.

00:41:00.260 That's what they're waiting for.

00:41:01.480 That's what's going to happen. 0.99

00:41:02.940 Kiss Trudeau's white little butt there and say, hey, please, please, you've got to save us. 0.98

00:41:07.020 We're too important to fail. 0.98

00:41:08.640 And he'll cut another check so these guys can hang in there, do more DEI hires, and continue to make broadcasts that nobody wants to watch or listen to.

00:41:17.820 Welcome to a monopoly again.

00:41:19.240 You know, it's not a monopoly in media, but it's a monopoly on the government picking and choosing who they're going to give the money to.

00:41:24.260 And those are the people that give you the information.

00:41:26.020 So thank you guys for getting past that and tuning in with us.

00:41:28.880 We're not getting handouts.

00:41:29.820 Don't worry.

00:41:30.140 Trudeau's not in a hurry to give us any.

00:41:31.380 And we are asking for them.

00:41:32.720 All right.

00:41:33.260 Enough ranting, pissing, moaning, and raving.

00:41:35.260 Let's get on to Sean Polzer, our business and energy expert.

00:41:38.720 You've been busy this week.

00:41:39.740 Sean, how's it going?

00:41:40.620 It's going really good.

00:41:41.680 I've been having a great week.

00:41:42.940 Well, good.

00:41:43.560 Chasing that many stories like the chorus that you just mentioned.

00:41:46.140 Yes, yes.

00:41:47.180 That was a beauty.

00:41:48.920 Again, I mean, you know, when you're struggling, you're hurting, you're in a business.

00:41:51.560 I mean, you've got to cut, you've got to rethink how you're doing things.

00:41:55.220 They just can't change their mindset.

00:41:57.580 Well, we've got an insider in there and they've been kind of feeding us these things because, you know, the morale is just so awful.

00:42:05.300 It's terrible.

00:42:06.100 It reminds me a lot of what it was like at Calgary Herald years ago.

00:42:09.600 So I have a little bit of a sympathetic heart.

00:42:12.360 Well, I mean, you do feel for people.

00:42:13.840 I mean, there's talented people there.

00:42:15.160 There's good people at all these organizations.

00:42:16.900 There are good journalists, even though we beat up on them all the time.

00:42:19.320 There's a lot of fantastic ones.

00:42:20.860 And there are people like the rest of us.

00:42:22.380 They want to pay their bills and have their jobs.

00:42:23.980 And when you've got the axe hanging over your head, it's pretty stressful.

00:42:27.020 Well, and we're a bit of a fraternity as well.

00:42:28.880 Yeah.

00:42:29.200 You know, even though we're competitors, we're mostly always friends when we show up on the news sites and at the pressers and the kind of things that I went to all week this week.

00:42:37.940 Well, and that's what gets frustrating, though.

00:42:39.480 These jobs could be saved, maybe, if they could just look at these organizations and restructure them in a pragmatic way rather than just continuing down kind of a road of foolishness.

00:42:48.840 Or give people what they want.

00:42:49.920 There's a thought, isn't it?

00:42:51.840 Like kind of like what we do.

00:42:53.680 Yes.

00:42:54.140 You always have to write for your readers.

00:42:55.500 That's the first rule that you learn in, you know, creative writing one-on-one.

00:42:59.720 Yeah.

00:43:00.100 Who's your audience?

00:43:01.080 And that's it.

00:43:01.760 I mean, the viewership is collapsing and they've got to figure out how the hell they retained it.

00:43:05.560 Read the two-leaves.

00:43:06.140 Well, what else you got going for us?

00:43:10.780 Well, we've got some interesting stories.

00:43:13.280 So yesterday we had a billion-dollar deal with Alberta Indigenous Opportunities Corp.

00:43:21.000 So this is one of Premier Daniel Smith's pet causes.

00:43:27.140 And it's a little bit controversial among Western Standard readers that somehow think that it's a handout to the natives.

00:43:33.300 But actually, in fact, it's a good deal all the way around.

00:43:39.540 It's a good deal for TransCanada because they have to sell off assets to get debt.

00:43:44.100 Nova is an old established, you know, it used to be the Alberta trunk line network.

00:43:49.360 It's been in the ground since, what, 1953.

00:43:51.000 It pays steady stream of revenue and dividends and, you know, just dollars.

00:44:00.340 And by allowing these native groups, so native groups don't have access to the funding that companies like TransCanada do.

00:44:06.680 And this isn't like a loan.

00:44:08.080 It's a loan guarantee, right?

00:44:09.560 So they go out and they get their own loan with TD Securities, CIBC, the big brokers and that,

00:44:13.680 who are more than willing to step up and finance it, you know, given that they've got the backing.

00:44:18.180 And the dividends that are going to be paid off over the generations are going to be immense.

00:44:23.660 Number one, it's going to, you know, we can, I know we quibble about how we've treated, you know,

00:44:30.980 our indigenous populations over the last five years, but it does right a historical wrong.

00:44:36.140 It gives them a revenue stream, provides job opportunities and education, opportunities to improve their communities.

00:44:43.900 And it makes them more equal partners in our society.

00:44:47.900 And I think in the long run, it's going to benefit all of us.

00:44:50.100 Well, and another aspect, though, they don't trouble it, but there's some truth to what is, you know,

00:44:54.840 an incentive for the company to partner like this is giving an interest to the First Nations groups in the industry

00:45:01.500 will help blunt the protests, the opponents.

00:45:06.000 I mean, you know, the Greenpeace, the Treehuggers, the nutcases are still going to protest it.

00:45:10.120 But now they're going to have the First Nations fans getting upset.

00:45:11.760 Listen, you want us to stop our pipeline?

00:45:14.320 That's not going to happen.

00:45:15.780 Exactly.

00:45:16.320 And Stephen Jaboa has already said that, you know, they're going to try and block, you know,

00:45:21.640 conventional oil and gas developments on anything except native land.

00:45:24.940 Right?

00:45:25.340 So now this is almost like an ace in the hole.

00:45:28.000 TransCanada could have sold this to anybody.

00:45:30.120 You know, they could have sold it to the hedge funds in New York, but they didn't.

00:45:33.620 So it's going to local communities here in Alberta.

00:45:37.660 So there's an export line that goes through Southern BC and Saskatchewan.

00:45:41.440 And so the federal government, we are so far ahead of the federal government on reconciliation.

00:45:50.180 You know, they hand out T-shirts and orange shirts and Trudeau goes surfing on, you know,

00:45:55.720 a day of reconciliation and a holiday, right?

00:45:57.880 And here we, in Alberta, we are actually making meaningful steps and contributions to actually

00:46:04.940 addressing some of these inequities.

00:46:07.260 Partnerships have a better chance of lasting than a check.

00:46:09.680 You give a check out, it gets spent, it disappears, and then you're back to where you were.

00:46:14.680 A partnership, you're together, you're working on something.

00:46:17.100 Theoretically, it should last longer and hopefully build a better relationship.

00:46:20.380 Well, somebody asked me once, said, what's the definition of the perfect business deal?

00:46:25.300 You know what it is?

00:46:26.320 No.

00:46:26.960 It's an alignment of interest, Corey.

00:46:28.600 Ah, yes.

00:46:29.460 Fair enough.

00:46:30.440 As long as you've got the common interest.

00:46:32.800 Win, win, win.

00:46:33.420 That's our business culture here in Canada.

00:46:35.220 And so, yeah, no, I was quite pleased with this one.

00:46:38.560 Right on.

00:46:39.680 Let's see, we've got another one that I'm just writing.

00:46:43.120 It's not up on the website yet.

00:46:44.660 But so Fortis is handing out $10,000 incentives for, it's a combination heat pump and high efficiency

00:46:54.140 furnace, depending on where you live in BC and what the temperatures are, because the

00:46:58.000 heat pumps don't work so well, you know, up in Williams Lake as they do down in Attersford.

00:47:02.940 Yeah.

00:47:03.180 And the greenies are incensed. 0.98

00:47:06.480 They're opposed to heat pumps now?

00:47:07.680 I thought that was the new big good thing.

00:47:09.100 No, I love the heat pumps.

00:47:10.320 Oh.

00:47:10.620 They're just opposed to the high efficiency natural gas furnaces.

00:47:13.620 Oh, of course.

00:47:14.140 So now they're accusing the EBI government of maintaining the addiction to fossil fuels,

00:47:21.600 even though the combination of a heat pump and a high efficiency furnace results in about

00:47:26.140 100% efficiency.

00:47:27.380 I'm sure they'll get into their oil belching vans and get onto that diesel powered ferry

00:47:31.000 and head to Victoria to protest with their polyester clothes outside of the...

00:47:35.460 Yeah, they're critical mineral EVs.

00:47:37.920 I love it when they eat their own, though.

00:47:39.760 Yep.

00:47:40.100 And finally, one more, Trans Mountain is getting a new CEO.

00:47:45.080 She's stepping up into the chairman's chair, the chairman who oversaw the $25 billion in

00:47:49.900 overruns, who also happens to be a member of the Order of Canada, is stepping aside and

00:47:55.360 paving waste.

00:47:56.040 So they will be marking their new era as actually pumping 880,000 barrels a day of oil to the

00:48:03.660 coast, which is going to Japan, Korea, China, California.

00:48:10.100 So it has turned out to be quite a success in that regard, notwithstanding the...

00:48:14.780 The capital investment was a little large on it, though, I guess.

00:48:17.060 Yeah.

00:48:17.400 And the fact that they'd give themselves the Order of Canada for this amazing accomplishment.

00:48:22.460 Pat yourself on the back, guys.

00:48:24.180 All right.

00:48:24.600 Well, thanks.

00:48:25.780 We look forward to seeing those stories as they're coming, and see you actually on the

00:48:30.540 pipeline a little later.

00:48:31.480 Excellent.

00:48:32.020 Right on.

00:48:32.580 Thanks, Greg.

00:48:33.120 All right.

00:48:33.300 Thanks.

00:48:33.940 This is our Sean Polzer.

00:48:35.080 Yes, things business, things energy.

00:48:36.960 Hey, he writes on other stuff, too.

00:48:38.480 Check it out.

00:48:38.940 Western Standard Online.

00:48:39.940 Guys, you know, as I wrap things up, don't forget, go to healthreform.ca.

00:48:44.040 It's well worth it.

00:48:44.680 It's a good documentary.

00:48:45.720 Something to watch.

00:48:46.840 Get the learning cap on.

00:48:47.740 Share those things.

00:48:48.840 They're important.

00:48:50.140 So, yeah.

00:48:51.240 Thank you all for tuning in.

00:48:52.900 Man, that went fast today.

00:48:54.600 Tempted to expand the show, but we'd get too tired.

00:48:57.180 Thank you all for tuning in.

00:48:58.600 Check out the pipeline tonight.

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00:49:10.640 We'll see you all here again at the same time.

00:49:13.960 Goodsteen.

00:49:14.800 Good to hear you.

00:49:19.380 I haven't heard you all right.

00:49:19.840 I guarantee you time this year.

00:49:20.840 Murray, I have to ask you all for organisations.

00:49:23.280 We'll see you all night.

00:49:24.060 Bye-bye.

00:49:24.760 Bye-bye.

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Western Standard - July 31, 2024

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