In this episode of The Corey Morgan Show, Corey rants about the Chinese election interference in Canada s election and why the Chinese Communist Party is so obsessed with influencing our Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. He also rants on the Trudeau Foundation and its ties to the Chinese government.
00:00:29.980It is March 1st, 2023. Happy Hump Day and welcome to the Corey Morgan Show.
00:00:36.100This is my weekly appearance where I'll rant, rave, cover some stories, cover some issues.
00:00:41.520And when you get sick of listening to me, we'll always get some interesting guests to come on and speak to us about some of the other things as well.
00:00:47.360In a little while, I'm going to have Professor Frances Whittowson coming on.0.95
00:00:51.100She was shouted down, I'm sure as you saw on the news, and University of Lethbridge, and she's also just been chased around as an academic for having, of course, views contrary to what the establishment feels they should have.
00:01:04.020And it's a very, very troublesome and dangerous trend.
00:01:07.280If we can't have open critical discourse in our universities, where can we?
00:01:12.180And this is getting right out of control.
00:09:58.640At the budget yesterday, an interested spectator was one, Tamara Litch, of Freedom Convoy fame.
00:10:07.200She was invited to view the budget by independent L.A. bars, Arthur Greer.
00:10:15.620And, of course, got the story up there.
00:10:18.000And an interesting story from the treasurer, Travis Taves, who yesterday said the chances of an Alberta provincial police force are now, quote, off the table, unquote.
00:10:32.300So we've got some fallout coming on that and whether or not Mr. Taves may have spoken a bit too prematurely ruling out an Alberta police force.
00:13:29.840He can take down this government any time he wants.
00:13:33.000but he's as close to power as he ever will be as an NDP leader. That's why he talks tough but
00:13:38.160backs down every time. Now we have evidence of direct interference in our electoral process.0.96
00:13:44.520People, it can't be overstated how vital this is, how important this is. If we lose faith in our
00:13:53.780democratic institution, this country is in serious, serious trouble. I mean, the only hope you really
00:13:59.840have in a democracy that at least you can get out and cast your ballot and theoretically and
00:14:04.240hopefully in the knowledge that you've made your one person impact on that election and had your
00:14:08.420say and then you got to sit and take it for anywhere from a year to five years under the
00:14:12.900Westminster parliamentary system but if even that process is corrupted then you aren't in a democracy
00:14:19.020anymore it's as simple as that that's the absolute truth and some of these people try to lowball
00:14:23.260there was one guy actually tweeted at me said just just report accurately Corey you're making
00:14:27.500a mountain out of a molehill, it was only 11 Toronto MPs that were impacted. Whoa, I don't
00:14:33.860care if it was only one. Do you not understand the gravity of this issue? The importance of this? I
00:14:40.200mean, part of what they're also saying and trying to put out there is that, well, we don't see
00:14:43.700evidence that it really turned the course of the election. You know, sure, it was only a handful
00:14:47.720of MPs, but there was enough of a win by Trudeau that that didn't make a difference. It's the
00:14:51.160principle, guys. It doesn't matter whether they did manage to turn the course of the election or
00:14:57.080not, they tried and they're being allowed to get away with it. And it sounds like the prime
00:15:03.220minister's office might be complicit. You can't just brush this under the rug or people are trying
00:15:09.220and they might get away with it. I don't know. I'm losing so much faith myself and not so much
00:15:14.400in the institution. I'm losing my faith in Canadians. I mean, it's the apathy that allows0.97
00:15:19.100this. What does it take to get you guys mad enough to change something? How blatant does the
00:15:24.900corruption does the the the underhandedness have to get before you decide you know what maybe I
00:15:30.540might change my vote or maybe I might speak up or even you know as a liberal I mean can you not be
00:15:35.200horrified when your own party leader has strayed I mean I tell you what and I we said that's what
00:15:41.220adds to my cynicism I mean yeah there's political parties of all stripes have had corruption issues
00:15:45.960and and uh improprieties and a lot of things and it infuriates me 10 times as much when it's one
00:15:51.020of the ones on what I would consider my own team who do it than when it's the other guys,
00:15:55.200because I expect it of them. So there's got to be some silently furious liberals. We'll stop being
00:16:01.440silent, guys. I mean, you can still hold on, hope that the liberals remain in power. Just get rid of
00:16:05.920that hammerhead you've got for a leader. I mean, this is getting beyond the pale. And maybe with
00:16:11.220a new, less corrupted liberal leader, you could win an election and still remain in power. It feels
00:16:16.420and terminable as it is, but to sit back and do nothing, it is our fault as apathetic Canadians.
00:16:22.680I mean, we allow this. In the end, we do, we push back against the wrong things and we accept the
00:16:30.020wrong things. Speaking of pushback, you know, so where do we see, where do we see people getting
00:16:34.680off their butts? I'm going to segue a little bit here before I go to an ad and get to my guest.0.59
00:16:38.020We get upset snowflakes who are fearful that somebody might say things they don't want to
00:16:43.200hear, say things that contradict their vision of things. So then they got off their butts and
00:16:48.620we're going to scream and shout that person down. We're going to stop that discourse. We don't want
00:16:52.520to hear it. Our tender ears cannot hear it. It's not enough for me just to leave the room then and
00:16:57.160let it happen. We have to stop it. We have to stop these people from even talking about what I don't
00:17:01.320like. Yeah, Canadians, at some degree, get off their butts and do something, but it's for all
00:17:07.020the wrong reasons. And it's having a very negative impact on a lot of things. So that's what happened
00:17:12.180down in University of Lethbridge a few weeks ago. And I'm going to talk to Professor Whitteson
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00:17:53.820Okay. Hello, Professor Whittowson. Welcome back to the show. I appreciate you coming on to talk
00:17:58.320to us today. Thanks for having me on. Great. And I did have you on before, I think it was last year
00:18:03.400at some point. What we had spoken of, maybe just to give a recap, because not all of our audience
00:18:07.600members might be familiar with the history of it, but you had been instructing for some time at
00:18:12.760Mount Royal University and basically they violated the principles of tenure and you got removed from
00:18:20.320there. Can you kind of give a little background on what happened there? Yes, so I originally up
00:18:25.880until 2020 was just asking questions about various what is considered to be woke areas, which is
00:18:34.000identity politics that has become totalitarian in the university. This was disliked by a whole
00:18:40.300bunch of people. And then with the George Floyd killing, and Wendy Mesley's being kicked out of1.00
00:18:48.440the CBC, or she wasn't fired, but she was pretty much removed from things for mentioning the title
00:18:53.980of Pierre Valliere's book, White Niggers of America. I defended her and then a mob went after
00:19:00.220me uh about 40 professors and because of mount royals changing of its policies around social media
00:19:09.260uh which you didn't let anyone know about um they basically used that change in policy to
00:19:15.900have me removed from mount royal university yeah and i mean it's to to not even be able to speak
00:19:23.580to these things because for example i mean the wendy mesley example you're speaking of is a
00:19:27.660an interesting one because this is a very progressive person this was a person who's
00:19:30.940been well established at the cbc for a long time a long career uh very much a progressive
00:19:36.700certainly no indications of racism but she'd mentioned a book by title which has yeah it's
00:19:41.820an offensive word i can't stand that word but it was it's context you're mentioning the title
00:19:46.780of a book in in preparation for a show and that was all it took to completely destroy
00:19:53.100a career that spanned decades because context doesn't matter anymore yeah and the fact that
00:19:58.060no one defended her and and the fact that i defended her and then got basically taken out
00:20:03.340for defending her just shows you the madness that is happening especially at a university where
00:20:11.100referring to book titles is something that we have to do and i myself have done research on
00:20:17.100quebec nationalism and have used that book title so what am i supposed to do i'm not supposed to
00:20:22.700be referring to that book title i i just don't understand where all this is going so that's the
00:20:27.740kind of self-censorship and fear that is permeating throughout universities that we need to push back
00:20:35.660on push back hard right now before they start to put people in jail for putting forward ideas that
00:20:43.500are considered to be quote unquote incorrect well that's it in universities i mean they they
00:20:49.340traditionally they were formed. I mean, it was supposed to be a place where you're going to have
00:20:53.080critical discourse. You're going to have discussion. People don't have to agree.
00:20:56.560A professor might truly be haywire and offensive and off the rails. Oh, well, that's the way it
00:21:01.840goes. Debate it. Move on. Don't go to that professor's courses. But you've got to protect
00:21:08.580it. I mean, it was considered extreme for professors to talk about racial integration
00:21:13.260in schools in the United States back in the 40s and 50s. They were risking their careers by
00:21:18.000coming out in favor of it. Thankfully, there were protections so they could push for that
00:21:22.280and we got better. But now we've got a group think mentality and it's chilling any kind of
00:21:28.320discourse. Yes. And there's just a report that came out of the United States now. And they're
00:21:33.800finding that professors are censoring more now than they were during the McCarthy era. So things
00:21:40.380are really going off the rails. And it's not just Mount Royal University, you know, people might
00:21:47.200to focus on that, but that's really not the situation. We have problems all across the country
00:21:54.480and it is due to the fact that the academic character of universities and the acceptance
00:22:00.640of the idea that you should be able to discuss all ideas at a university has now been completely
00:22:10.240usurped by this idea that if you say something that is hurtful to a member of a particular group
00:22:18.880that should not be allowed because that's somehow making the university unsafe for those groups and
00:22:26.080is excluding them from the university when in fact it's actually excluding them from the university
00:22:33.680to not enable them to become part of the conversation to try to determine many of the
00:22:40.160serious problems that are facing indigenous people for example or trans activists or whatever the
00:22:47.520group might happen to be that's being protected well yeah so getting to the more recent incident
00:22:53.280you were invited by another professor professor philosophy again this is talking you know about a
00:22:57.760an area of academia where you should be expanding thought and discussing things that you were there
00:23:04.000invited to speak and uh word got out of it and a haywire mob essentially shut you down
00:23:10.580yeah that was quite a shocker i'm used to uh these incidents happening and and often they're
00:23:17.900quite comical and then to have uh to step out of the elevator and to see this large public space
00:23:26.540just filled to the rafters with hundreds of people brandishing signs, you know, saying,
00:23:34.380you know, no place for hate or racism, free speech is not hate speech, all these sorts of things,
00:23:41.020which, you know, okay, students like to blow off steam. We understand that it's often a, you know,
00:23:47.560a big part of universities, but that's not really the problem. It's not really the students
00:23:51.480that I think are the problem here. The problem is the administrators and the faculty. There are
00:23:59.300serious problems now with the faculty not thinking that ideas can be discussed. A number of professors
00:24:06.440at the University of Lethbridge actively supported the students. The history professor held a talk
00:24:13.900at the exact same time that my talk was going to be given right from the beginning, and as well
00:24:19.920the Faculty Association. That is something that people should really take an interest in,
00:24:24.820because it's the Faculty Associations that defend professors' academic freedom and freedom of
00:24:30.840expression. This Faculty Association, which is just horrendous, the University of Lethbridge
00:24:36.600Faculty Association, expressed concern about hurtful speech on my part and the need to protect
00:24:46.100students and faculty from my speech, we are going to pursue this faculty association and
00:24:54.440we are going to file a grievance that Paul Viminitz's academic freedom was violated
00:25:01.460by the University of Lathbridge. That faculty association should be taking forward that
00:25:07.000grievance and fighting hard against the university, but of course they're very unlikely to do so
00:25:12.800because they are actually responsible for the terrible situation that exists at the University
00:25:17.960of Lethbridge. Well, and you know, of all associations, you think an association of
00:25:23.660academia would understand the dangers of appeasing a mob, you know, throwing one to the mob, and it's
00:25:31.760like the old statement of appeasement, eventually they're going to come for you, your own freedoms,
00:25:36.060you're going to say something, you're going to study something that some group or individual or
00:25:40.560or such is going to say is offensive. I don't want to hear it. And you're going to be thrown
00:25:45.440under the bus and you set the precedent to allow that to happen. The danger of this is immense.
00:25:53.680And what is the point of a faculty association if they won't stand up for faculty?
00:25:58.080Well, they stand up for some faculty, the faculty whose views they agree with,
00:26:03.600and they don't stand up for faculty whose views they don't agree with. And this totally goes
00:26:09.040against the duty of fair representation. It's a massive failure of the labor relations framework
00:26:15.040in Alberta. And this has really got to be one of the major targets right now in trying to get the
00:26:21.520faculty associations to be, to actually uphold their duty of fair representation and defend all
00:26:29.200faculty members and accept the idea that it's important to discuss ideas, even if some people
00:26:37.620get upset by hearing those ideas because it's not just about freedom of expression. Everyone thinks
00:26:43.820about freedom of expression and your ability to speak your mind. It's also about the ability of
00:26:49.240people to hear. So people at a university should be able to hear different views, evaluate those
00:26:57.660views, and determine whether those views have merit or not. They shouldn't have a group of
00:27:04.380activists making a predetermined decision about what ideas can and cannot be heard. And that is
00:27:11.780a huge problem now in all universities across the country. Yeah. And the other element you
00:27:17.540mentioned was the faculty and the cowardice on their part. And we've seen that happen in a lot
00:27:21.860of universities in Canada, as well as in Europe. We've seen it in the United States. When there's
00:27:27.300protests, they always use the safety card. Oh, we're not doing it to shut down speech, but it
00:27:30.900just seems like things might not be safe, even for the speaker. So we'll do it on your behalf.
00:27:34.340Even if the speaker says, I'm fine. Oh, no, no, no. We better stop. It's just, it's cowardice on
00:27:39.840their part. Though, I mean, some of those mobs are pretty aggressive, but I mean, that that
00:27:44.860shouldn't be tolerated. Capitulating to threats of violence isn't the way to deal with it. Then
00:27:49.420up security, if that's the case, or limited mission for people coming to these events. But
00:27:54.260faculty just much prefers to shut the event down altogether. Well, that was the funny thing about
00:27:59.360the University of Lethbridge, because I've been involved at talks at places like Wilfrid Laurier
00:28:04.240University, where there actually was kind of threats that were being made. And so they blew
00:28:09.740that up into, oh, well, we've got to have all this huge security fencing and all these sorts of
00:28:14.960things. But at the case of the University of Lethbridge, it was made very clear by the
00:28:20.400protesters that they were going to be nonviolent. So that wasn't even part of the calculus that
00:28:26.460happened with respect to the president canceling the talk, he explicitly stated that the talk was
00:28:34.000being canceled not because of physical safety concerns, but because of psychological safety
00:28:41.240concerns. And the fact that certain students felt that they would be harmed by hearing words with
00:28:51.040which they disagreed and this did a huge for the president and then not only that not only did the
00:28:56.800president cancel the talk after I tried to go to the university and make a speech in a public place
00:29:03.920just because I wanted to push back against being uh you know not being allowed to come on campus
00:29:08.600to give a talk I didn't want to be to be not be allowed to go there then there's this huge crowd
00:29:14.480that shouted me down what does the president do he sends out a message the next day congratulating
00:29:21.580the students and faculty members for what they did you know what kind of message does that send
00:29:27.500from an academic leader a supposed academic leader who is having that attitude that it is acceptable
00:29:35.260for people to for a small group a relatively small group of activists because there were people there
00:29:40.700who wanted to listen to me speak um for them to be able to have that power to shut down uh views
00:29:47.020with which they disagree. It's just completely shocking. Well, and so, I mean, a few years ago,
00:29:52.780there was a professor, he might still be at the University of Lethbridge, it just popped into my
00:29:56.320head, his name escapes me, but he was an avowed Marxist. He used to annoy the heck out of me. I
00:30:00.560mean, he was very controversial, in my view, and belligerent and offensive in his views. He would
00:30:04.900soft pedal even things such as the actions of Stalin and the people he harmed. And I couldn't
00:30:10.140stand that. But it never occurred to me for a second that he should be fired or shut down or
00:30:15.400kicked out of the university. It's just that we should debate this man and lay out why his
00:30:22.000views are wrong and odious. But the mindset has changed now. And what does it take or what can
00:30:28.920we do, I guess, is the question. I mean, it seems we've got a whole generation of snowflake students
00:30:33.600coming up that have been taught that if you have a temper tantrum, you don't have to hear
00:30:37.200anything that might offend your ears. Can we change this tide now, though?
00:30:42.000It's going to be very difficult. And it's kind of funny because I actually am a socialist myself. I'm not. So I do have a very critical view of capitalism. But it's, you know, people disagree with me and that's fine. And in fact, it's good for people to hear, if you're not a socialist, what the socialist position is so that you can more fully understand it.
00:31:03.440this is a huge battle now. Many of my colleagues say it's over. We're not going to be able to save
00:31:10.380the university. I have a more optimistic type of view myself. I think what is required is serious
00:31:18.080organization. So we need to have organization at the university level, at the national level,
00:31:25.720and at the international level, and somehow work to get all these entities kind of acting together.
00:31:32.100I am a board member for an organization called the Society for Academic Freedom and Scholarship, www.safs.ca.
00:31:43.380And what we want to do in that organization is organize local chapters for each university.
00:31:49.160And that's the kind of on-the-ground type of organizing work that has to be done so that you can introduce faculty members to other faculty members who want to protect the academic character of the university.
00:32:03.900You can bring the students in who are interested in this. You can bring in interested members of the public.
00:32:10.500So it's not very glamorous work to be doing that, but it's really the only hope, I think, is to act in that way.
00:32:19.160And that's what I'm going to be devoting the rest of my life to, I think, is to try to save universities.
00:32:26.400People don't realize how important universities are in terms of being a bulwark against these autocratic types of intrusions.
00:32:35.780If we lose our universities, we are going to have serious problems in terms of these sort of totalitarian impulses that we see already that are trying to assert themselves in Canadian society.
00:32:51.720Well, that's it, because the graduates of these universities are going to be moving into senior academic positions, senior bureaucratic positions in the country.
00:32:59.860They're going to be the regulators. They're going to be the ones that are managing a lot
00:33:04.780of aspects of our lives very soon. And we would like to think that they have some good,
00:33:09.720broad and tolerant views. But if they've been instilled with such an attitude of
00:33:14.520entitlement and closed-mindedness as we're seeing right now, we could be seeing a lot
00:33:18.780of much bigger trouble in 10 to 20 years. Yes. And one of the big areas which really
00:33:23.280scares me is the legal profession, because we rely on our courts to uphold principles such as
00:33:31.440the rule of law and equality under the law. Wokeism is completely opposed to that and has the idea of
00:33:39.240this intersectional scale of oppression. And if you are a member of an oppressed group, somehow
00:33:45.540the law should treat you differently than other people. And this is starting to infuse itself
00:33:51.240into the legal profession now. So I'm very, very worried that in not too long in the future,
00:33:57.300we will see these fundamental principles of the legal system being overturned by wokeism.
00:34:05.420And in fact, it's not far off. We had the ward decision, which was successful, upheld
00:34:11.060freedom of expression, but I believe it was 5-4 was the decision. And that could have just,
00:34:17.320You need one more Supreme Court justice who starts to develop these kinds of woke ideas, totalitarian identity politics, and that decision is going to be overturned and we aren't going to have freedom of expression rights anymore.
00:34:30.860As well, a very, very important example just happened.
00:34:34.960Leah Gazan, the MP, NDP MP, wants to criminalize saying that the residential schools are not genocidal.
00:34:44.360This is a major area of contention amongst historians, amongst many academics, for her to be saying that you should criminalize and put in jail people who have a dissenting position on this is just absolutely outrageous.
00:35:01.440And the fact that it's being accepted and there's not a huge outpouring of opposition is an indication of how close we are to having complete autocratic types of processes take over our society.
00:35:18.420Yeah, well, our elected officials, even the ones who have trouble with it, are afraid of that trap.
00:35:23.580Because if you speak against it, you're saying, oh, so you're trying to say the residential schools were good.0.53
00:35:27.460You're, of course, the racist word is almost immediately thrown out if somebody questions it.
00:35:32.860And often they're just too scared to take on that battle, so they let it slide by.
00:35:36.720But when you have a legal precedent that would shut down, legally shut down discourse on something that's definitely still very much in the investigative point of establishing in history, boy, that's a river we don't want to cross.
00:35:53.720And even if, you know, it's an idea that's wrong, like you should be entitled to be wrong because that's how we figure things out.
00:36:03.160If you don't want to utter something for fear that it's wrong and therefore it's not going to be allowed, then you will not be able to enter into that investigation and see, you know, and it's possible there might be part of it that's right.
00:36:15.200All these kinds of very, very complex kinds of questions that need to be examined openly and without fear that you're going to be subjected to some kind of punishment just for trying to figure it out.
00:36:29.620And in the end, well, maybe it's incorrect, but, you know, still you've learned something by being corrected, by trying to understand something more fully.
00:36:39.080So I think the universities and what's happening in the universities is permeating into all aspects of society.
00:36:50.340You know, it wasn't that long ago where universities were functioning properly.
00:36:55.220And really, it's only been in the last five, 10 years that we've had this takeover and it's on the move.
00:37:02.580It's not going to stop where it is now.
00:37:04.880It needs people to really take it seriously and really to fight back against it.
00:37:11.360A couple of commenters, Terry French and Tom Abbott, I see the name, of course, Jordan Peterson has come up.
00:37:16.420And I think of others like Gad Saad, though he hasn't been cancelled.
00:37:20.700He's been very critical of these things.
00:37:22.340But it's typically once they're outside the institution that they do that.
00:37:26.700But, I mean, there is new platforms being given, I guess, to some outspoken people that are gaining some steam and bringing this into discussion.
00:37:33.620but do you think, you know, they can make change or are they going to be taking part in this
00:37:38.180organization of trying for, you know, academia and supporting it? I hope so. We have had Jordan
00:37:44.900Peterson and Gads come and give talks at the Society for Academic Freedom and Scholarship,
00:37:51.500you know, but it's difficult when you become a celebrity because then it's just, it's easier
00:37:56.800just to go and talk to large crowds, which is very, I'm not trying to downplay that because
00:38:01.340I think that that's very important. And both Gad said and Jordan Peterson, I've learned a lot from them. I really enjoy listening to them. We disagree on a number of things, obviously, but, you know, that's there's nothing wrong with that.
00:38:13.020But I admire their principal defense of academic freedom and freedom of expression. But, you know, unfortunately, I think if it's going to be successful trying to pull our universities back, it's going to be doing the hard, unthanked, you know, task that is not very glamorous, as I said before, of going into each university and trying to find the people there
00:38:42.020who support these principals, and then giving them some kind of organizational support.
00:38:50.120Because that's very, very important for professors, is that if you stand up for the university,
00:38:56.840and you're an individual, you will be taken out. There's no doubt about it. And they're
00:39:03.300these administrators, and you don't have your faculty association to protect you.
00:39:07.480So you need organization, you need serious help with, you know, supporting you, giving you the resources that you need to fight back against it. That is the kind of work that has to be done. And I am currently, you know, once I get through all my own, you know, difficulties with Mount Royal University, I'm really looking forward to working much more in a hands on fashion at the local university level and trying to tie each of those universities in to the
00:39:37.460national organization that is in existence, and then the very, very good international
00:39:42.020organizations. I just mentioned FIRE, which is the foundation for individual rights and
00:39:48.120expression, I think, in the United States, the Free Speech Union in the United Kingdom.
00:39:53.480There's a number of organizations like this. But the problem is we're all kind of working
00:39:57.420sort of separately when we need to kind of have this sort of networking type of approach where
00:40:04.420we tie everyone together so that we can act in a more kind of unified, organized fashion
00:40:12.400to try to save our universities, which are failing, which are failing terribly. And anyone
00:40:19.100who doesn't think there's a problem is not paying attention to what's happening in universities.
00:40:24.780My case is very, very important. It's going through arbitration May, June, and I believe
00:40:32.620november and december of this year and hopefully that case and with my reinstatement i'm fighting
00:40:38.720hard for reinstatement back into mount royal university and if i'm not if i'm not reinstated
00:40:44.180universities are over because i have done nothing wrong and it's just the complete abuse of power
00:40:50.380by mount royal university which has allowed this to happen well i certainly do hope that
00:40:55.580your challenge against mount royal is successful and i really want your group to take off i'll
00:41:00.380point people as well. You wrote a great extended piece in c2cjournal.ca. It's called Into Wokeism's
00:41:06.980Raging Maw. And for looking that up, guys, it's letter C, number two, letter C. It makes it hard
00:41:13.000to Google it sometimes, journal.ca. But look it up. It's well worth a read, and you'll get a lot
00:41:17.340more background on what's going on with Professor Witteson. And before I let you go, where else can
00:41:22.220people find information then on what you're working on? Yes. So there's a website that's
00:41:26.420been developed about my case. It's called www.wokeacademy.info. There's an area there about
00:41:35.120my firing, which has, I believe it's 16 episodes about what went on there as well. There's
00:41:41.740information that's posted onto the blog that's happened there. And I do a lot of posting now on
00:41:47.260my Facebook page as well. So there's a lot of information that I post on a daily basis on my
00:41:52.720Facebook page, which gives people a lot of information. Great. Well, thank you again for
00:41:57.440coming on to talk to us today and for keeping up the fight rather than just kind of give it up and
00:42:01.240going into retirement like so many do. I can understand the temptation for it. So I hope we
00:42:06.560can talk again soon and perhaps be talking about a success on one level or another.
00:42:11.620Thank you very much. Great. Thank you. Bye-bye.
00:42:15.500So that was Professor Frances Whittowson. Guys, as I said, you can find her on C2C Journal with0.79
00:42:20.000that article and just Google her name and you'll see the activity. She's pushing back. And that's0.98
00:42:23.820what I admire. As I said, I don't agree with her. Socialism, oh boy, we will have to have a separate
00:42:27.900discussion of that another time as well. But that's the thing. Discuss it. Don't ban, don't
00:42:33.200cancel, don't shout down. And these are the people, these institutions that are raising the
00:42:39.820next generation. I was talking to somebody a little while back about what's going on with,
00:42:46.080say, for example, energy companies. Why are they being so weak-kneed when it comes to these
00:42:49.900environmentalists? You know, Shell and some of the others, they're terrible. I mean, they sound like
00:42:54.460they're run by, again, woke students. Well, that's because they're starting to be. The ones who came
00:42:59.000through those post-secondary institutions, graduated, climbed the corporate scrotum pole,
00:43:03.040got into these spots in these energy companies, and now this ESG garbage is coming out. They've
00:43:08.260lost sight of the role of a corporation, guys, is to earn profit and money. It's not a shameful
00:43:13.880thing. In fact, it's what you have to do. But this, this, this rot is getting in even on the
00:43:19.460board level with these large corporations, with these woke morons getting in there thinking that
00:43:24.880no, we can, we're supposed to be some sort of charitable organization benefiting the world.
00:43:29.940And of course it's, it's leading to some, some terrible outcomes in these companies too. Guys,
00:43:34.980you don't make money campaigning against yourself. And that's what happens when, again,
00:43:38.160speaking of when you talk about appeasement, you know, and trying to feed the, the, the tiger
00:43:43.460or a crocodile hoping it eats you last.
00:43:45.120I mean, we look at these companies that fund oil companies
00:43:48.360that are giving money to groups like the Pembina Institute.
00:43:51.540Don't give the Pembina Institute money.
00:44:12.180and don't toss them bones. Don't give them money. But you know, how counterintuitive is it? For
00:44:17.260you're an energy company, you think, I know what is a good idea. I'll give money to the groups that
00:44:21.360are trying to shut me down because that'll, that'll pacify them and make them okay. Well,
00:44:25.760did it? No, of course not. They're just fighting you all the harder. But this is the upside down
00:44:31.500absurdist world we're in today. And a lot of that comes out from these sorts of initiatives. Roland
00:44:40.080commenter there, saying oil companies are getting $20 billion in royalties that belong to Albertans
00:44:45.080paid off. I'm not sure what you're getting exactly with it, Roland, but I mean, part of it,
00:44:51.820something I tweeted recently was, yeah, the budget, for example, was shored up to, you know,
00:44:57.160yesterday's budget by $18 billion in royalties. Now, progressives are saying, oh, the oil companies,
00:45:02.920they're just screwing us. They're taking all that out of the ground and they're leaving.
00:45:05.240And what do you think really happens with that?
00:45:08.960What do you think really happens when it comes to the point of needing energy and once they've done it and extracted it and sold it?
00:45:15.780I mean, they explore, they employ people, they pay lease, you know, in land sales, they pay lease rights, they pay landowners to do seismic projects.
00:45:24.540They, you know, hire individuals, they stay in hotels, they stay in restaurants.
00:45:27.280All of those people are all paying income tax, paying GST, paying municipal taxes when they go in the area.
00:45:33.220And then the oil company gets in there and drills a well, and lo and behold, they did all right.
00:45:36.580They got a gusher. Great. They bring it into production.
00:45:38.540They got to hire pipeliners, and they spend all that money, and they get it to the refinery.
00:45:42.280And eventually, it gets into the gas tank of your car.
00:45:44.860Meanwhile, the governments at every level are taking little bites all the way through.
00:45:49.820And billions and billions and billions of dollars are going into governments, federal, municipal, and provincial.
00:45:55.700And then it goes into your health care. That goes into your education.
00:45:58.260or if it's the corporate profits, the evil corporate profits, where do you think it's going?
00:46:03.040Your pension plan. What do you think makes it grow? I mean, really, these imbeciles that think
00:46:07.860corporations shouldn't make any profit. That's fine. But are you content with an inflationary
00:46:13.040environment with the cost of living and everything going up to know that your pension, and I'm
00:46:16.440including even the CPP or private pension plans to have zero growth? Because that's the only way
00:46:21.980they grow, kiddies. That's it. It's not magic. It's not unicorn shit that makes it happen.
00:46:26.200it's investment in corporations. And when those corporations issue dividends, when they have
00:46:30.100profits, that makes your pension grow. That's how you might be able to retire later. The unions
00:46:36.680sure are quiet on that. They love to leave their members in ignorance on how that works.
00:46:43.520You know, and they want ever bigger and bigger pension plans. I tell you, you want to see one
00:46:47.120of the biggest areas of hypocrisy on earth? Look at the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan. That fund
00:46:52.160is worth, oh, what is it, hundreds of billions of dollars? And good on them. Hey, you're putting
00:46:56.420your money in, you're saving it for retirement, your members. But they also, they aren't green0.74
00:47:00.520investors, guys. They own oil companies. And Roland said, no, you're wrong. Their pockets are
00:47:05.980being filled. How much profit theft is theft? Oh, kiss my ass, Roland. Okay, so you're going down
00:47:09.320the wrong track. Profit is not theft, Roland. If you want to try the non-profit system, go to
00:47:13.280Venezuela. They nationalized the oil there. There was no profits there. In fact, they still have
00:47:18.780the cheapest pump prices on earth. Nobody can afford a car, but damn that gasoline's cheap.
00:47:25.720Ate our zoo animals, but we could drink gasoline. There's nothing wrong with profit, and it's not
00:47:31.480theft. If you don't like it, Roland, don't buy their product. See, that's not theft. You don't
00:47:35.740have to buy their stuff, do you? So yeah, you want to grind down corporate profits, see how that
00:47:41.280works for you. And we see the same thing with all the people screeching and howling about Loblaws
00:47:45.800and Galen Weston and, you know, the politics of envy. Look, look up the margins. Rather than
00:47:54.700looking at gross profit numbers, look at the margins. And the margins for, uh, it's not so
00:48:02.900easy, you know, it was Loblaws, yeah, are under 4%, the profit margin. I mean, the number is record
00:48:08.160profits. Yes, because of inflation and the numbers get bigger and bigger, but it's only a 4% margin.
00:48:12.300it. These companies sometimes lose money. Nobody, everybody's kind of quiet when that happens.
00:48:17.300Others point out, oh, but the government gave them like $12 million for refrigeration. That
00:48:20.660was unfair. Yeah, it was stupid. I don't agree with subsidies, but it doesn't mean I want to
00:48:25.440claim that this, this company is a part of a conspiracy to make my, the price of my pork
00:48:30.480chops go up. Have a look around. You don't have to go to Superstore. You can go to Walmart. Don't
00:48:35.480like Walmart, go to Safeway. Don't like Safeway, go to the corner store, go to the farmer's market,
00:48:39.660can grow your own frigging food. Just leave it competitive. You want to really screw it up?
00:48:45.140Get government involved in it. That's the way to screw it up every time. Speaking of government
00:48:50.360screwing things up, let's pivot here a little bit. So MPs have now voted how Commons Heritage
00:48:55.240Committee, we're going to summon executives from Google and put them on the carpet and demand,
00:49:00.320how dare you guys make an example by suddenly blocking people from news stories on your website?
00:49:08.100Because you see, C-18 is coming down the pipe.
00:49:10.340So not enough people are paying attention to that too.
00:55:34.340Now, I despise thinking that basically what the government has is a hidden agenda.
00:55:42.120And I like to think that Premier Smith is planning on kind of turning around and moving towards imposing that provincial police force to, you know, ending the RCMP contract and all that good stuff once she gets a majority and is comfortable with it.
00:55:55.880It's not a very honest way to go about it because she just doesn't want to fight that battle going into an election.0.74
00:56:01.860But if you don't, I'll say this, Premier Smith, you know, I doubt she watches, especially I've interviewed her a number of times before.
00:56:10.720Who knows? If you're watching, remember what took down your predecessor.
00:56:15.200He promised a whole lot of stuff and he didn't deliver.
00:56:21.160And don't think for a second that the UCP members won't rip you out of your job as well.
00:56:26.740And Daniel Smith has certainly learned the hard lesson of losing support from within your own party before.
00:56:32.200So be careful because it was the bait and switch with the fair deal panel was a lot of what led to the end of Premier Kenney's career as Premier.
00:56:42.660So please, Premier Smith, be careful when you soft pedal or back pedal on some things that were pretty core items of the conservative philosophy that got you into the role that you're in today.
00:56:54.360I understand you can't go hell bent for leather on a whole Alberta agenda platform going into a provincial election in a few months.
00:57:01.860But the day after that provincial election, you better not forget who brung you to the dance, because they will dump you in a heartbeat. We've seen that. How many conservative leaders? I think it's been listed. When's the last time a conservative leader has made it in Alberta for two elections? And it's not the voters who tend to kick them out. It's their own party members.