Western Standard - CMS： Trudeau plans to crush free podcasting

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.760 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show. This is my weekly, that adds up to 45 minutes,

00:00:37.560 but it covers an hour on those cable stations from the Western Standard where I cover the

00:00:42.520 top news items I want to discuss, get some ranting out of the way and interview interesting people.

00:00:48.220 Today's no exception. A little later on, I'm going to have Elise Mills on. She's a strategist 1.00

00:00:53.920 and counsel on global public affairs. We're going to talk a bit about the latest efforts

00:00:58.920 to basically censor podcasts live streaming basically discourse that the government doesn't

00:01:05.240 like uh so yes those of you watching live use that comment scroll guys i see mr stanley was

00:01:10.920 there fast saying present and paradoxy get in there send those comments to me questions things

00:01:15.640 for the guest again like i say i don't always read them all out on the show but i do see them

00:01:21.480 all there and i appreciate it helps keep things flowing and that and i i see some interesting

00:01:25.160 concepts going on sometimes. Just make sure to keep it civil. We don't have to be at each other's

00:01:30.660 throats. That's my job. So I'm going to get on the throat of some things. And oh yeah, since I was

00:01:36.060 brought up by Paradox, he's saying a great interview with James Lindsay yesterday. Thank you

00:01:39.160 very much. Yeah, James Lindsay was on. Look on the YouTube archives. He was here. We had a good talk

00:01:44.640 for a little while on the Save Our Children thing. He's been touring Alberta and he did a huge event

00:01:49.440 in Calgary last night, actually. So check that out after this show, of course. So I'm going to start

00:01:55.060 though on, yeah, the latest thing from the CRTC, the registry, I'm going to talk about what used

00:02:01.020 to be one of my favorite radio hosts, Howard Stern. Howard Stern's show, it was a radio powerhouse in

00:02:07.360 the 1990s. I mean, he gored sacred cows in the United States and his shock jock style of

00:02:12.700 performing. I mean, it changed the way radio morning shows were done all the way around the

00:02:16.520 world. I mean, while opponents were trying their hardest to cancel them in the U.S., it only brought

00:02:20.540 more attention and made his brand even more powerful. He crushed competing DJs across the

00:02:25.580 USA and his show syndication seemed unstoppable. He would just absorb fines for profanity from the

00:02:31.680 SEC and he'd just keep expanding his reach. Things changed though when he brought his show to Canada.

00:02:38.840 Yes, in 1997, some people might not remember it, particularly out west, but two radio stations in

00:02:43.720 Canada, one in Montreal and one in Toronto, picked up his show and started broadcasting it.

00:02:47.380 And Stern's brand of humor, which included everything from, yeah, fart jokes to having women simulate orgasms over the air, was welcomed by many listeners and reviled by many others.

00:02:57.620 But, I mean, it did work. The ratings and market share for both of those Canadian stations expanded quickly.

00:03:02.140 People wanted something fresh in radio, and he brought it.

00:03:05.500 But then Stern committed Canadian blasphemy.

00:03:09.360 He made fun of Quebec.

00:03:10.940 That was it. He crossed the line that was too far.

00:03:13.680 it doesn't matter how many dildos or odd things you might want to talk about on his show,

00:03:17.940 you don't criticize Quebec. So the reaction was immediate. Complaints from thin-skinned

00:03:23.520 Quebecers flooded into the Canadian Broadcast Standards Council and, of course, further to the 0.89

00:03:28.120 CRTC, the Canadian Radio Television Commission. Stern was threatened with the cancellation,

00:03:33.900 of course, if he didn't back down, and in typical Stern fashion at the time, he offered

00:03:37.880 a middle finger to the Canadian regulators in response. So despite the high ratings on the

00:03:43.040 radio stations hosting his show, they were forced to drop him under threats of CRTC action.

00:03:47.860 He didn't last very long north of the border. See, in Canada, the concept of letting consumers

00:03:52.020 decide what they want to watch or hear all by themselves isn't considered a right. The Canadian

00:03:57.080 way is to have the state carefully cultivate and control what our eyes and ears are exposed to,

00:04:01.800 and the CRTC is the enforcement arm of that. The CRTC, see, they didn't go after Stern himself.

00:04:07.760 Stern didn't care. He would have told him to get stuffed. They would have targeted the platforms

00:04:12.220 that hosted them. They couldn't make Stern shut up, but they could pull the broadcast licenses

00:04:16.300 for the stations that gave them airtime. Does that sound familiar yet? Yeah, the CRTC, they've long

00:04:22.220 wanted to control the internet. It's driven them mad for a long time. I mean, the organization is

00:04:26.520 authoritarian by nature. As the digital world of communication has expanded, the CRTC has

00:04:31.960 desperately wanted to find a way to get the internet under its grasp. Well, Bill C-11 from

00:04:36.720 the Trudeau Liberals has finally given the CRTC that tool they seek. Now, the CRTC is a dinosaur

00:04:42.340 of an institution, but it did learn some things. It learned from past experiences. Canada has tens

00:04:46.840 of thousands of content creators, and many of them are saying things that the government would rather

00:04:50.780 they didn't, like me. It'd be impossible, though, to try and register and chase down every one of

00:04:56.460 those podcasters, streamers, and so on, those creators out there. So what the CRTC is doing is

00:05:00.740 the next best thing. They're going after the service providers. You see, podcast audiences

00:05:06.540 for the individuals can range anywhere from a few dozen listeners and viewers to millions of people.

00:05:10.880 But one common analogy among the podcasters is they have their content hosted by large internet

00:05:16.100 service providers. It's the only way really to attain broad reach and the content creator doesn't

00:05:20.640 have to do the technical investment of self-hosting and trying to get the algorithms and get out there.

00:05:25.960 So basically, the CRTC is doing the equivalent of what they did with Stern. They're going after the

00:05:30.380 hosts. And if the host gets pulled and a podcaster loses hosting services, the podcast dies on the

00:05:36.500 vine. Liberal apologists are dismissing these latest regulations from the CRTC, you know, to

00:05:41.540 register streaming hosts and saying it's irrelevant because it only applies to hosts with over $10

00:05:48.680 million in revenue. That's true. The problem is, though, almost every podcaster is dependent on

00:05:55.440 being hosted by providers who have over $10 million in revenue. If the providers later

00:06:00.500 compelled to regulate the content to the creators, there'd be little that either party is going to be

00:06:05.340 able to do to stop it. I mean, if the platform has its license pulled in Canada, it can be blocked

00:06:08.940 from broadcasting in the country. If the creator, of course, loses their platform, they're out of

00:06:13.480 look too. So that broadcast is done. My show, it's already under the CRTC regulations as we're

00:06:18.920 broadcast on a couple of cable channels, but a large portion of our audience finds the show,

00:06:22.440 of course, through streaming services such as Spotify, Rumble, iTunes, etc. If the Western

00:06:27.240 Standard lost the ability to put content on those platforms, this show's finished. I mean,

00:06:31.300 how do I get to you? The new regulations from the CRTC put streaming services under their thumb and

00:06:36.860 puts the job of policing the content into the lap of the platforms. It's an insidious backdoor way

00:06:42.340 to control content. And what problem is being solved with these new regulations anyways?

00:06:47.320 How have unregulated podcasters and streamers disrupted society so much

00:06:52.000 that we needed new legislation for government to control their content?

00:06:56.220 Of course, independent content pursuers haven't disrupted society.

00:07:00.020 They have been a thorn in the government's side, though,

00:07:02.480 as they'll focus on issues that the subsidized, cowardly legacy media outlets are afraid to touch.

00:07:07.720 The government can't buy the love of independent media as it has with legacy media,

00:07:11.880 so it's resorting to try and control it instead.

00:07:14.780 The government's attempt to shake down

00:07:16.320 Meta and Google with Bill C-18 backfired,

00:07:19.100 and it harmed Canadian media,

00:07:20.280 at least independent media.

00:07:21.100 They're just going to subsidize 0.99

00:07:22.020 the rest of them otherwise.

00:07:23.440 Their attempts to control content through C-11

00:07:25.280 and the CRTC, though, might succeed,

00:07:27.300 and the loss of freedom

00:07:28.280 is going to be immeasurable.

00:07:29.740 The Trudeau liberals have always had

00:07:30.980 an authoritarian streak,

00:07:32.200 and this move isn't surprising.

00:07:33.640 It's terribly dangerous, though.

00:07:35.500 These kind of controls can be difficult to remove

00:07:37.580 even when governments change.

00:07:39.660 The next one coming in

00:07:40.880 might kind of like having that control

00:07:42.660 over what people can say or can't say when they get in there. We can't let this sort of thing

00:07:45.980 entrench itself. The earlier we fight this, the better. Canadians need to stand up to this creeping

00:07:50.520 control of their ability to communicate while they still can, because of course, the harder it gets

00:07:55.460 to communicate, the harder it gets to organize against it. And rest assured, the registry,

00:08:00.620 as with firearms, is just the beginning. All right, that's what's got me wound up today,

00:08:06.580 guys. This issue is a lot bigger than a lot of people give it credit to. Of course, the media,

00:08:09.800 the mainstream media has been really quiet on it, right? Self-serving pussies. But what do you 1.00

00:08:14.520 expect out of them? They want us to go away. They want the upstarts to leave. They don't want

00:08:20.560 to see independent outlets eating their lunch. Well, too bad. Too bad. You guys lost the battle

00:08:26.020 and it's just animating a corpse at this point. All right, let's get on to a former legacy media

00:08:31.520 guy, but now he's in on the right side of things. And that's our news editor, Dave Naylor,

00:08:35.600 covering what's important out there.

00:08:37.840 How's it going, Dave?

00:08:39.320 Hey, Corey.

00:08:40.180 It's good to be on the right side for once of history.

00:08:45.160 So, better than being...

00:08:47.920 I think we have a bit of a,

00:08:57.960 just a bit of communication problem with Dave there.

00:08:59.700 We'll see if we reboot and can hear him again there.

00:09:01.840 Let's try that again, Dave.

00:09:03.320 Yeah, you keep freezing on me here, Corey,

00:09:05.000 but we'll plow ahead for some reason.

00:09:14.780 Well, looks like due to technical issues,

00:09:17.900 maybe the CRT is sneaking in and meddling

00:09:19.580 with our internet lines over here.

00:09:22.660 I'm afraid we'll have to maybe pass on the news check-in today.

00:09:25.120 There's lots going on out there and lots to cover.

00:09:30.160 Again, being the smaller outlets,

00:09:31.620 we have to get by with what we got.

00:09:34.300 Paradoxy, you have the worst connection in your own offices.

00:09:36.320 Yeah, I'm not sure that we just get the occasional hang up going on in here.

00:09:39.440 I'll still, as Mr. Stanley says, blame the CRTC because they are a convenient group to blame on things.

00:09:46.840 But there is a lot going on.

00:09:48.200 Maybe I'll have a quick look at the Western Standard Site.

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00:10:23.140 We've got lots going on, going on there.

00:10:24.880 One of the interesting ones,

00:10:26.000 this is the stuff, this is the battles.

00:10:28.020 CBC president, this is the front story

00:10:29.740 I see on the Western Standard page,

00:10:30.900 He says, Canada's unsafe for their organization.

00:10:34.320 Yeah, Tate, you know, their billion-dollar behemoth of a media organization, the CBC, likes to play victim.

00:10:43.020 And people have been mean to them.

00:10:44.380 They get a lot of hate mail.

00:10:45.680 They get a lot of people calling them out, you know, questioning their coverage.

00:10:50.420 I mean, I have seen some stuff happening at protests, things that I've gone to.

00:10:54.420 And I've got to admit, some people have been pretty nasty and abusive to legacy media representatives

00:11:00.420 when they see them there when you know i started seeing later protests cbc cameras would be there

00:11:04.820 and they wouldn't put their branding on their cameras and things like that to avoid the abuse

00:11:09.140 i i do say with people i understand rest assured i mean look at how often i pound on legacy media

00:11:16.100 but it doesn't call for being violent for being threatening just ignore them you know don't give

00:11:22.180 them time uh you know when they're looking for interviews at those things just turn away those

00:11:28.260 sorts of things but there are some people did get in the face of the reporters some people getting

00:11:32.740 uh in the face of the camera people people who've even you know vandalized news trucks i've seen

00:11:38.420 before and things like that don't give the the the state broadcaster and other media outlets

00:11:46.100 room to play victim you know they they thrive on that if they can show a picture of a bunch

00:11:50.820 of protesters screaming and getting in the faces of their reporters it actually inspires more

00:11:57.060 control. That gives the excuse to the local authorities to say, you know what, we need more

00:12:00.820 police to shut down these protesters. These guys are clearly extreme. They hold, as we've heard

00:12:05.420 quite often, unacceptable views. So I don't doubt that there really are some nasty emails. I'm

00:12:12.700 going to read one later in the show that came to me. You know, being in this, you get some

00:12:16.260 really interesting feedback from people. But there is no excuse, no matter what, the institution to

00:12:23.300 get threatening with them, to get violent with them. And some of that does happen. And meanwhile,

00:12:29.000 so Tate's up there saying, you know, it's unsafe for our organization. Of course, they're already

00:12:32.880 getting one and a half billion of your tax dollars to do what they do. Don't let them try to play

00:12:39.000 victim on top of that and get even more money. I'm just, you know, doing a bit of a call out.

00:12:44.360 As I've said, I'm certainly no friend or fan to the legacy media outlets right now,

00:12:50.580 but let's not make it any easier for them to try and say that they're victims in anything.

00:12:56.980 This is one more I'll get into and I see Elise getting ready in the lobby there so we'll get

00:13:00.920 to her pretty quickly and talk some more on censorship. This one was kind of interesting

00:13:04.360 though out of you know the Chrystia Freeland's office asking over and over people have been

00:13:11.000 asking what are the debt interest payments you know going on right now in Ottawa. I mean this

00:13:18.560 is something the Department of Finance should be able to answer pretty easily, right? You figure

00:13:22.180 out how much debt you have, you figure out how much interest you have, and you figure out how

00:13:25.560 much you have to pay every month to service it. But they keep saying that they don't know.

00:13:29.960 Well, what do you mean you don't know? You're running our country. This is a very basic

00:13:35.340 actuarial question. This is a large chunk of our revenues that can be dedicated to programs that

00:13:41.940 we seriously need. This is something to remind people, because this is what brought the crash

00:13:45.780 in the 90s when realism finally hit with enough voters and taxpayers. And we kind of corrected

00:13:50.640 things because interest rates were really high. And people started realizing that government

00:13:54.040 budgets were being overwhelmed with interest payments. I mean, come on, if you're paying

00:13:57.500 tax out of pocket, the last thing you want to do is see it flushed on interest. That's money down

00:14:01.380 the toilet. It's not buying you any services. It's not making your life any better. And right now,

00:14:06.460 at least back earlier with one of the updates, it was estimated to be around 44 billion a year

00:14:11.500 in debt service charges. And now, of course, interest rates have only climbed up since,

00:14:15.920 so we know the number's bigger. Other people can look from the outside and figure it might be

00:14:20.720 getting closer to that $50 billion number now, but we don't know because the finance minister

00:14:25.780 won't say. What good are you if you won't even answer that simple sort of question,

00:14:31.840 Madam Freeland? Come on, do a little better than that. You guys are in the toilet in the polls. 0.97

00:14:36.400 You're going to have to learn to change something pretty soon. Just hiding isn't working for you,

00:14:39.700 but it does get frustrating. It's our money. Canadians are prone to forgetting that sometimes.

00:14:44.760 It's our money. You have a right to know how they're spending it, what they're doing with it,

00:14:49.880 and not back off when the government refuses to tell you what they're doing with your money.

00:14:55.600 All right. I've been ranting enough. Let's get somebody else on to rant for a little bit.

00:14:59.680 I've been looking forward to this. You've probably seen her on social media a lot. You've seen her

00:15:04.600 on a lot of legacy media in the past as well, but I won't hold that against her. It's...

00:15:10.460 Elise Mills, a strategist and counsel for global public affairs, a consultant, and just kind of

00:15:15.560 have your hands in everything. So thanks for joining the show today, Elise.

00:15:18.780 Thanks so much for having me, Corey. It's a real pleasure. I was looking forward to it all weekend.

00:15:25.700 So, I mean, yeah, we've got quite the subject to chew on. You know, when it first dropped last

00:15:30.900 week, it was hard to tell. It sounded almost like they were going to come after every podcaster and

00:15:34.940 get them to register or possibly shut them down. But no, they're being a little more nuanced.

00:15:38.980 they're going after the hosts. I mean, it'll have the same effect in a way, but it's going to take

00:15:45.300 a little longer, but this is a really, really dangerous turn of events going on with our

00:15:49.500 government right now. I know people on social media thought I was being completely extreme

00:15:55.020 when I was saying this, but it reminds me of the stories that my parents would tell me. I have

00:16:01.900 journalists in my family that work in the UK and the United States and had worked in Canada at one

00:16:07.860 point for what was then Southern Press, which you might remember, Corey. And one thing that was

00:16:15.320 really concerning to me was it has echoes of McCarthyism in it. It's guised as the great

00:16:22.520 savior of journalism, but what it really is, is a cultural redefining or a shift. It's meant to

00:16:31.380 follow into what they were looking for way back five years ago when they appointed the media czar.

00:16:37.380 I think what we need to remember is that this has been a piecemeal approach. So your viewers and listeners and readers will probably not remember that in 2017, 2018, right around the election of Trump came Canada's response, which was guised as we are very concerned about certain voices.

00:17:00.040 so we're going to start regulating what you can say and what you cannot say on social media so

00:17:05.420 we're going to appoint a czar at that point it's now it was um uh melanie joly who's now minister

00:17:12.640 of foreign affairs and she was our czar of social media then you started to hear the rumblings of

00:17:20.980 what they were thinking about and how to control the media which was you know it's a three-pronged

00:17:25.220 approach, Corey, really the ultimate goal is to keep the CBC as basically right now what it is,

00:17:31.380 is an outsourced PR firm for the Trudeau government. And I've never seen the CBC

00:17:38.760 quite like this before. As you know, I spent over a decade as a permanent fixture on the CBC

00:17:46.040 as a conservative. So it's about protecting, so some of that legislation was about protecting the

00:17:52.540 CBC but it was also about quietly or what I would call the creep of government melding our minds

00:18:01.280 into what Trudeau saw the country as being and that's we really begin with the social media czar

00:18:07.180 we ramp up to C11 we ramp up to some other pieces of legislation that people have forgotten about

00:18:14.140 that are really pertain to the CBC pertain to how what the CBC is allowed to do and what

00:18:22.420 what it's not allowed to do. The CBC has only lost once in the court at the old CRTC,

00:18:30.740 which was really about what they were trying to produce, which was almost like a digital print

00:18:37.320 sheet, right? The tour star and National Post and many others won that, you know, thank goodness.

00:18:44.660 But this, what we're seeing now is what I call phase three. And what bothers me most about this

00:18:51.800 is not, well, several things, Corey, and I ranted at you, called you on a Friday night and said,

00:18:59.640 we've got to get on top of this. This is insane. Is that now this is guised to something that's

00:19:06.240 supposed to help us to sort of shut out what they don't want us to hear, which are these negative

00:19:13.840 voices that have political overturns or undercurrents or overtones to it. The reality

00:19:20.900 is I don't I want to be in a country where I disagree with people I do not want to be in a

00:19:25.740 country we're all saying yes that that that is absolutely fantastic I absolutely agree with this

00:19:32.280 mushy middle sort of woke uh Trudeauism uh that I think is separate to what the traditional liberal

00:19:38.720 party is the other part about it is it has a registry and it reminds me of the McCarthy

00:19:45.000 the inquest right where journalists were brought forward for different reasons um but it's similar

00:19:51.080 it was about you jump on my bandwagon you believe in what i believe and um otherwise you're a

00:19:57.440 communist well what trudeau has said many times whether it's vaccines or the way he's come about

00:20:02.740 this and it would come towards media and public conversations and public debates and freedom of

00:20:08.420 thought in this country, Corey, is are you a conservative? And if you are, you're a misogynist,

00:20:15.400 you're an anti-vaxxer, you're, you know, so on and so on and so on. And I mean, he's compared

00:20:20.200 people that have questioned his policies to being Nazis, to being homophobic, to being misogynist,

00:20:26.980 to being people that are racist. This is all part of the plan. That's what I inherently believe,

00:20:32.840 Corey, and no one's going to tell me much different. I am really turned up about this.

00:20:39.160 I think this is not only overreach, this is an abuse of what's supposed to be an independent

00:20:44.860 institution in this country, which is the CRTC, which is to help us navigate the ever-changing

00:20:51.800 media landscape. And that includes the digital space, and that includes podcasts. And quite

00:20:57.860 Frankly, all you're doing is pushing people out. You're not embracing more diverse opinions. So

00:21:03.780 it's government creep. It is a hidden agenda. Absolutely. I've heard many conservatives talk

00:21:10.140 about hidden agendas before. This is really one of the first that I'll say, yep, this is it. This

00:21:15.640 is a hidden agenda. Absolutely. And he's going to leave a legacy and he's going to bare knuckle this

00:21:21.120 white knuckle this all the way to him getting kicked out of office. And it's going to take

00:21:26.000 the Conservatives' years to untie or untangle us from the precedence that this legislation or the

00:21:33.940 legislations that we've seen pass forward and the regulatory changes that have been made. It's going

00:21:39.640 to take us years because as you know, Corey, once you take that giant leap forward, it's really hard

00:21:44.540 to put the genie back in the bottle. Well, that's it. And Canadians have voted with their eyes and

00:21:49.560 their ears on media. The world is changing. The CBC is a dinosaur sitting there taking over a

00:21:55.080 billion a year plus dipping into the advertising market yet their ratings are terrible there's not

00:21:59.700 many people actually consuming their content but rather than change their content what the

00:22:05.500 government wants to do is take away the alternatives and that's competition gets odious yes and i mean

00:22:11.640 i i get frustrated i've seen you on x you know twitter talking about the people saying oh it's

00:22:16.280 just the ones that make 10 million a year or more no no no no that's where they start and then those

00:22:20.920 the hosts that those are the platforms that host all these different voices it's not about joe rogan

00:22:29.240 okay i mean and and for example that's a great example of what i can and cannot get behind

00:22:34.920 or why i'm doing this joe rogan speaks and most of the time i'm sort of cringing because you know me

00:22:41.720 cory i live at the intersection of the law legislation precedent of parliament all that

00:22:46.840 sort of good stuff. And then, you know, I mix it all in with what I think we need as not only

00:22:52.800 Western Canadians, but what we need is a change for this country. So when I listened to Joe Rogan, 0.69

00:22:57.620 especially his advice on what you should be taking during COVID, I just wanted to pull my hair out.

00:23:02.900 But would I ever get behind anything that makes it difficult for him to have his voice heard in

00:23:10.180 this country no the same can be said about many of the far left groups that i have to listen to

00:23:17.060 or even the or even the hosts that i listen to on the mainstream media that have significantly

00:23:23.120 changed in the last few weeks especially out here in western canada i can't even believe what i'm

00:23:28.260 listening to sometimes but it's important to scream at your radio it's important to have

00:23:34.260 you know to fight to get up and feel that feeling that you want to hear you have your voice heard

00:23:39.940 you want to be able to match it you want to be able to duel with people on it and you want to

00:23:44.420 be able to debate the issues that are at hand here's what the trudeau liberals will tell you

00:23:49.520 this is a bunch of conservatives that want to prop up the right-wing agenda no what this is

00:23:56.540 is this conservative and i'm sure you as well cory i know you as well many of the people we know

00:24:03.480 many of the people we've worked with everybody's going to stand arm in arm with nd peers liberals

00:24:08.840 it doesn't matter the point is you will not on my watch have your rights reduced you will not

00:24:17.080 lose your right to freedom of expression i will not say freedom of speech because that's not a

00:24:22.060 canadian term but freedom of expression is you will not lose constitutional rights government

00:24:27.480 creep under trudeau has become a significant crisis of democracy against a democracy in this

00:24:34.380 country. And I'm not afraid to say it anymore. Yeah, well, and this is a solution looking for

00:24:40.100 a problem. Like, it's people pointing, oh, we've got to stop misinformation or hate. Well, hang on.

00:24:44.080 We've already got legislation. If I was spreading hate or inciting violence or hatred or slandering

00:24:51.080 somebody, there's all sorts of legal recourse that I'll be subjected to that I'm going to pay

00:24:56.320 some consequences for acting like that. Lauren Kinsella, the pundit, is a prime example of the

00:25:04.260 watchdogs on, you know, be careful what you say. Nobody has lost their ability to sue somebody or

00:25:11.800 to contact the police. You even look at Twitter now. The reality is this is simply Trudeau-isms.

00:25:18.780 This is a Trudeau policy. He's trying to change the culture of the country. And I think at a time

00:25:26.480 where Canadians are stopping dead in their tracks saying, wait a second, there's lots of things

00:25:31.660 going on where this country is trying is being pulled in several directions parents have their

00:25:37.700 own concerns uh you know you know the the rights of a few have outnumbered the rights of the whole

00:25:45.600 and i don't understand what the end game is into attacking media the way that he has i mean

00:25:52.320 i i the way that things have gone from bill c11 they have been absolutely a gigantic enormous

00:26:00.800 failure we've had failures on the foreign policy stage Canada tripped fell on its face and the

00:26:06.380 whole country tried not or the whole world tried not to laugh the other part to this is he talks

00:26:12.740 about freedom of expression and everybody having a right to an opinion everybody having a right

00:26:18.600 having the right to say what they want to say but in fact Trudeau has worked very hard at limiting

00:26:25.120 the avenues for you, for people like yourself, Corey, or anyone else to be able to express that

00:26:31.380 opinion. And, you know, the legislation, C-11 and its sister and companion legislation have

00:26:38.460 but crippled and killed the Canadian media industry. The only group that's surviving is the

00:26:44.800 CBC. I recommend your viewers and those who follow you on Twitter and your readers go and

00:26:53.140 check out the release of the CBC's O'Budsman's annual report about the CBC and their rebuttal,

00:26:59.140 you'll see the losses in there. You'll see the complaints in there. If that's our media of

00:27:06.960 record in this country, we are up the creek without a paddle, Corey.

00:27:11.380 Yeah, and the CBC has just gotten terrible. I mean, they've always had a leftward lean. That's

00:27:16.360 nothing new. That was around since the 80s when I grew up, but it's tilted in this last 10 years

00:27:22.620 to a point that it truly has become a government organ.

00:27:25.720 And I know the reporters chafe every time I call them

00:27:27.800 people working for the state broadcaster,

00:27:29.860 but until they can start demonstrating otherwise,

00:27:32.360 this is no longer even slightly

00:27:35.240 an independent news outlet any longer,

00:27:37.020 and it's costing us a fortune.

00:27:38.520 I think everybody has a dog in this fight.

00:27:40.800 If you're mad at the CBC,

00:27:42.740 this is a great way to jump in and raise your voice again.

00:27:46.040 But what I'm really here to say is that

00:27:48.400 forget about the little schoolyard scraps

00:27:51.420 that you've had maybe with, you know, you don't like Trudeau, the trucker, you know, the trucker's

00:27:57.360 convoy wasn't a schoolyard scrap. It's sort of part hand in glove with some of this stuff. But

00:28:03.080 this is the real, this is the big kahuna. This is the one piece of regulation, which should have

00:28:11.600 come through legislation, because there's a piece of the constitution that requires if he's going

00:28:17.220 to search for more money through taxation, whatever, that requires him to go through

00:28:20.880 parliament and then have it passed obviously through the senate he hasn't done that what he's

00:28:25.940 done is he's manipulated and interfered with what is supposed to be an independent regulatory body

00:28:31.140 in canada i'm not surprised nothing stops him but this is an absolute overreach and creep into your

00:28:40.240 fundamental rights for freedom of expression and your and and your basic civil liberties

00:28:45.540 you can do this country you don't look at what the crtc released look at what they've said in

00:28:53.680 the last six months and there's been many good writers uh that have come out and written on this

00:28:59.540 today there's a gentleman by the name of peter menzies who i know you know cory he's a former

00:29:04.600 vice here at the crtc he had a brilliant uh step-by-step on it today uh i i call it sort of

00:29:12.720 the cheat sheet of why this is problematic. This is, as it sits today, this isn't going to be the

00:29:20.300 end of it. This is just one piece to it. And the hearings start in November, which is a really

00:29:25.100 short shift for most regulatory hearings. I mean, you know, Corey, it's normally 12 to anywhere to

00:29:31.680 a year, you know, scheduling of that. This time, it's only four weeks before the hearings start.

00:29:37.880 and so it'll be interesting to see how that plays out and whether or not that's broadcasted

00:29:43.300 for all of us to see but to make no mistake this is just the beginning and or maybe it's the middle

00:29:50.840 cory i'm not so sure but it's definitely not the end and this is not about a fight with the cbc you

00:29:57.120 can have that i'm right there with you this is not about disliking trudeau this is about

00:30:03.200 your rights being infringed upon. Oh, absolutely. And, you know, it's a good note to leave off on,

00:30:09.080 and I'm sure we'll have to discuss this further. And again, as it develops, as we see the hearings

00:30:12.640 and things like that, it's definitely the beginning of a new phase of control. And it's a very

00:30:17.500 dangerous one. I mean, at this point, we can oppose and speak up and push back however we can,

00:30:22.620 but we kind of got to wait now to see how it's going to unfold. So I appreciate you coming on

00:30:27.320 to talk to us today, just because I don't think enough people understand just how serious this

00:30:31.720 really is and uh how bad this could really get so if i could just if i could just make a quick

00:30:38.200 note cory i am i have joined an organization that we will go public shortly uh where we will be

00:30:45.840 fighting um and exposing uh the the concerns and the issues and the legal issues around this type

00:30:53.200 of regulation and i'm very proud i i'm jumping the gun a bit here but i want your viewers to know

00:30:58.780 that that this is something that I believe in so wholeheartedly as a Canadian that we I I'm now

00:31:08.520 going to devote my time to this group it's a it's a very early stages but it will be people that you

00:31:13.940 know who are going to join forces no matter who they vote for what partisan world they live in

00:31:20.380 what they do for a living the people that I've spoken to and the people that will be that have

00:31:25.900 joined the group are very concerned about this encroachment of our rights and it's and and this

00:31:31.320 particular piece that has come out with the crtc was not the beginning it was the final straw for

00:31:37.060 so many so hopefully cory we can keep you updated uh i know we're here to we're here to support you

00:31:44.020 too you're one of the hardest working guys in media and i just really appreciate you giving

00:31:48.900 me the opportunity today to express how how problematic this is and how serious this is

00:31:54.560 Well, I appreciate that. And I'm looking forward to seeing what you guys put together because we need that opposition. So quickly, before I let you go, where can people find you on, I guess, X or, you know, formerly Twitter and other areas to keep track when things do start unfolding from you?

00:32:08.260 They might remember me as formerly Gracie Style. Unfortunately, as I left Twitter, I lost that. Somebody else has that, so don't follow it. I'm Millsy Elise. Not the greatest name. You can also find me on LinkedIn. All of my socials are open for anyone to follow and to join or to request.

00:32:27.460 and i will uh be be putting forward on twitter uh the website of of our of what this group will be

00:32:37.140 we're still trying to give it a name it's a little bit of a ragtag group right now but we're hoping

00:32:42.280 that we'll be able to uh really get in there and influence public opinion in the sense of

00:32:48.460 why you need to pay attention to this so yeah come and follow me on twitter and uh enjoy the

00:32:54.780 ride. It's getting feisty in there. And as Corey knows, I'm watching Corey's account and always

00:33:00.420 ready to back you and jump in at a moment's notice, but you rarely need it. That's my

00:33:07.380 favorite playground. All right. Well, again, I appreciate the work you're doing and you're

00:33:11.540 coming on today, Elise. I'm sure we'll talk again about this soon and I look forward to what's

00:33:15.420 coming up. Thank you so much, Corey. You take care. Great. Thank you. So that was Elise Mills.

00:33:20.920 And yes, you can look her up on social media. Again, Google's great. We're still allowed to

00:33:24.460 use it in Canada for now anyways. And you can find the Twitter account, the newer one and other

00:33:29.160 such things as that. As she said, this is just warming up. It really is. And I wanted to talk

00:33:34.200 about it because I don't, I think most of the viewers on here understand, you know, we are

00:33:39.000 plugged in people. You guys are already alternative media watchers, but unfortunately, a whole lot of

00:33:45.200 our Canadians, these will see independent media disappearing and they won't notice.

00:33:49.920 They won't realize that all the alternatives disappeared somewhere.

00:33:53.620 They went away.

00:33:55.280 Mills mentioned Joe Rogan, for example.

00:33:57.220 Rogan doesn't care what Trudeau thinks.

00:33:58.600 He doesn't care what Canada thinks.

00:34:00.900 He doesn't have to.

00:34:02.220 But if enough complaints, see, that's what they do.

00:34:04.340 Like I was talking about with Howard Stern.

00:34:05.940 If they flood the CRTC with complaints about Rogan,

00:34:09.620 CRTC will contact Spotify, who will have had to register in Canada.

00:34:14.540 and they say, look, you've got to block Rogan from Canadian IPs.

00:34:19.480 You are not allowed to stream that here any longer.

00:34:22.120 Or we will block you from Canada altogether.

00:34:24.340 This is the game that's going on.

00:34:25.560 I know it's a game of whack-a-ball.

00:34:26.360 People say, just resist.

00:34:27.200 You know what?

00:34:27.460 Spotify won't resist.

00:34:28.320 They'll say, screw it.

00:34:28.980 We'll either block Rogan or they'll pull out to Canada.

00:34:30.600 We're going to lose either way.

00:34:32.980 They are not going after me directly.

00:34:35.700 They're not going after the heavyweights like Rogan directly.

00:34:37.840 They're going after the hosts and it could be effective and it's dangerous.

00:34:42.140 So, yeah, don't let the liberals tell you this is nothing to worry about.

00:34:44.920 It's a lot to worry about.

00:34:46.760 Okay, I was going to do something different.

00:34:48.260 Like I said, I get all sorts of feedback.

00:34:50.000 I get all sorts of emails, you know, messages, tweets, and things at me.

00:34:53.960 This one was a beauty, though.

00:34:54.940 It came in the other day in response to one of my columns.

00:34:57.100 So I'm just going to read it verbatim, aside from the gentleman's full name

00:35:00.220 or a phone number he even included within it,

00:35:03.160 because it's a good discussion point.

00:35:06.040 So here we go.

00:35:06.640 Corey, your article drips with disdain.

00:35:11.040 What a pompous ass you are.

00:35:13.340 Why not start by reading Gabor Mait's book, Hungry Ghosts?

00:35:17.500 You might actually learn something.

00:35:19.660 Give me a call at blah, blah, blah.

00:35:22.080 If you're too cheap to buy a copy and too unimaginative or too lazy to know how to get one, I'll buy you one myself.

00:35:29.620 Your hatred is contagious, but you knew that.

00:35:32.180 That's the point of the digital rag that you work for.

00:35:35.820 As a famous Canadian songwriter once sang,

00:35:39.040 you're living for nothing now. Hope you're keeping some kind of record. In other words,

00:35:43.220 if metaphors are too abstract for you, get a life. Mark. It's ironic after that little spew

00:35:49.780 that he could call me pompous. I kissed my ass, Mark. But either way, what was he so worked up

00:35:55.000 about? What was he ticked off with me about? I mean, people get mad at me all the time. That's

00:35:58.080 nothing new. Well, in this case, in the book he's talking about, I'm familiar with it. It's basically

00:36:03.420 one of the Bibles for the addiction enablement cult. And it's a cult. It really is. It's getting 0.96

00:36:08.660 to that point. It's from a doctor talking about if we could just pump enough clean drugs into our

00:36:14.060 junkies, they'll start surviving. They won't. It's failing. And that's why these cultists are getting

00:36:19.720 so vitriolic. That's why they sit down and type up such a beauty like Mark did for me there.

00:36:25.960 Because it's not working. We're seeing on the West Coast, addiction numbers are going through the

00:36:31.700 roof. They get all the free drugs they want. What do they do? They take the drugs from there, 0.60

00:36:36.080 and then they sell those on the street and create more addicts because the existing addicts

00:36:40.020 can't get enough of a high from that. And then they go buy more of the crappy street drugs. It

00:36:44.000 doesn't work. It's ideological pap, but that's still what dominates a lot of policy here in

00:36:51.360 Calgary. It seems like an almost daily thing we hear. And I'm sure in most cities, another stabbing

00:36:56.500 on our LRT system, on our train system. Yep. Another stabbing right on the train. I mean,

00:37:02.420 they had flare gun fights in our train stations here in Calgary. And people, oh, they're displaced

00:37:07.980 from high rent. No, they aren't. They're junkies. Let's quit sugarcoating this. They're addicts.

00:37:13.780 And they need help. They do need empathy. We do want to help them. But they don't belong in our

00:37:19.700 bloody train system. They don't belong in our stations. They don't belong in the buses. They

00:37:22.600 are dangerous. They aren't harmless. This is some of the crap these guys feed us too. They're just

00:37:26.100 harmless. They're diseased. No, they aren't. They're stabby. We've got the numbers. So what

00:37:31.900 do we get from this clown, one of our city counselors, and every city has counselors like

00:37:35.480 this too, Courtney Walcott? Because we had another report that came out recently showing with our

00:37:40.400 safe consumption center in Calgary is anything but. Maybe it's a little safer from some of the

00:37:45.720 addicts who hang around in there and consume their drugs, but it's made the entire residential

00:37:49.060 district around it unsafe for everybody else. They are dealing with high crime. They can't leave

00:37:54.980 anything out for a second. There was a local citizen talking on the news the other day saying,

00:37:57.880 I'm afraid when I open my door, I'll be greeted with somebody with a knife. And it does happen.

00:38:01.120 it has happened down there. And what does Courtney Walcott say, our counselor in Calgary? How do we

00:38:07.700 deal with that? Well, we need more safe consumption centers. That's literally what he said. You've got

00:38:11.440 the evidence right in front of your privileged face. And yes, you're privileged, Courtney,

00:38:17.620 showing that these centers aren't helping, that they're causing more damage to the citizens

00:38:23.340 than they are aiding. And your solution is to ignore what these citizens who are enduring this

00:38:29.300 and suffering through this are asking about what they're complaining about and say what we need is

00:38:34.340 more of this. How about this, Courtney? Would you like one next to your house? Come on. Put your 1.00

00:38:40.160 money where your mouth is. Invite it. Have a halfway house on one side of your place because

00:38:43.380 you probably support the pathetic bail system we have and parole system and have a drug consumption

00:38:48.360 center on the other side. Let's see how it goes for you. You won't do that, will you? You don't

00:38:54.620 ride transit, do you? No, no, no. No, you drive to City Hall to your secured underground parking,

00:39:01.700 warm, heated. You never have to deal with the ruffians out there. You don't have to ride that 1.00

00:39:06.640 train, step over the puke, smell the piss. That's not your problem. But you will lash out if anybody

00:39:14.860 dares to question the orthodoxy of the enablement cult. Because again, it's a cult. See, there's

00:39:21.480 ideologies, there's things when you're getting to a point where, okay, you'll finally admit it was

00:39:26.000 wrong, it failed, it isn't working, and you'll back off. But when you completely and consistently

00:39:30.400 ignore the facts right in front of your face that it isn't working, you're in a cult. Nothing is

00:39:38.100 going to change your mind. The only thing I can see changing Courtney Walcott's mind, or Mark's

00:39:43.040 mind, this ass clown who sent me this little beauty of an email, is actually dealing with it 0.84

00:39:48.300 face-to-face, but they talk from their comfortable suburban homes. And, you know, Paradox, you're

00:39:53.040 saying, you're so right, I refuse to take transit. And yeah, those who can afford to refuse to take

00:39:58.000 transit are refusing to take transit. Unfortunately, there's a lot of students who have to get to

00:40:02.380 school. There's a lot of seniors that they can't drive. They have to take transit to get around

00:40:07.020 doctor's appointments, things like that. There are single mothers going out to get groceries. 0.96

00:40:12.140 They don't have the funds to take Uber everywhere they're going, or single fathers. There's people 0.79

00:40:17.220 who have to take transit. And how fair is it to make them sit in that deal with that? These people

00:40:25.720 who are working, these people who are paying their taxes, these people that are following the laws,

00:40:29.640 and we're bending over backwards, enabling and facilitating the scumbags who were breaking the

00:40:34.880 laws, who were stabbing people, who were robbing people. It's not working, guys. Look at the states

00:40:39.900 and some of those cities in Philadelphia, some of those mass robberies going on. The enablement is

00:40:46.100 just a catastrophe. Stores are shutting down because the law won't follow through and charge

00:40:50.740 them. In Calgary, we don't even check people for fares when they get on the train. It's an honor

00:40:56.860 system. Councillor Dan McLean, one of the few common sense councillors in City Hall, talked

00:41:03.440 about that. He said, why don't we secure our station so people have to buy a ticket before

00:41:07.060 getting on the train? Seems simple enough. You know what? And I love it because Calgarians,

00:41:12.220 Nenshi used to love saying, we need to be a world-class city. Guess what? World-class cities

00:41:16.180 secure their transit systems. They have turnstiles. They have people there. They make sure that people

00:41:22.440 get on a train paid their fare. And people say, well, what difference would that make? Well,

00:41:26.060 do you think the guy who pissed himself sitting in the middle of a train screaming at the ceiling

00:41:30.200 with the shopping cart bought a ticket? Do you think the guy, I bet you the fellow who stabbed

00:41:35.840 somebody the other day or one of the other dozens of people have been stabbing people on trains

00:41:39.400 lately and in bus shelters and spots like that. Do you think any of them bought a ticket? No,

00:41:44.820 of course not. They have an extra four bucks. They're going to try and turn it into 12 bucks

00:41:49.000 by panhandling or stealing, whatever they're going to do and get more drugs to get their next fix.

00:41:52.660 So if you actually secure the trains, these guys can't get on them. And the innocent commuters who

00:41:59.140 are just trying to get to work, who are just trying to live their life can do so safely and

00:42:04.540 comfortably, as should be their right. It's not, it shouldn't be asking too much for that.

00:42:10.300 People saying, well, well, it's cold out. Well, then get drug shelters for these guys. The trains

00:42:15.240 aren't shelters. You know, you don't care about the addicts. Yes, I do. That's why I've had many

00:42:21.000 guests on talking about treatment and things like that. But there's places where they belong,

00:42:24.600 places where they don't, they don't belong in the bloody train. It's not unreasonable to ask

00:42:27.840 that that practice stops, has to stop. They will still be addicts outside of the transit system.

00:42:34.540 they'll still be criminals, probably outside of the transit system, but it'll be one less area

00:42:38.340 where they are traumatizing innocent citizens. What must that have been like? To be on the train

00:42:43.660 yesterday in Calgary, the majority of people who are just trying to get around to watch one addict

00:42:49.520 perforate another with a knife. Emergency stop, they all had to exit in an underground tunnel to

00:42:54.840 get off the train. How fair is that to those who were following the rules, those who were reasonable?

00:43:01.900 So this is how upside down our society has gotten.

00:43:03.940 You're called every name in the book for questioning the enablement cult.

00:43:08.840 And again, it defies common sense so badly, it has to be called a cult.

00:43:13.740 And I'm calling them out, and I'll keep calling them out.

00:43:16.500 People on the streets see it.

00:43:17.860 Unfortunately, voters don't see it or get off their butts enough to deal with it.

00:43:21.080 People who do live in the suburbs who don't have to ride the train and don't go downtown

00:43:24.120 don't see how bad it's gotten.

00:43:26.100 Hey, good on you.

00:43:26.980 Glad you can avoid it.

00:43:28.100 but please, for the sake of everybody else, have a look and realize that these morons like the

00:43:34.540 Courtney's, there's two Courtney's who are kind of slow on Calgary's council, and Mayor Gondek,

00:43:39.540 and again, this is happening in cities across North America, are wrong. It's getting out of

00:43:44.440 control, and it's intolerable. Now, again, towards the tail end of the show, Terry O'Malley brought

00:43:50.680 up, reopen mental hospitals, that's where they belong, and they want to do decent people. You 0.99

00:43:54.520 know what? That is absolutely true. The deinstitutionalization movement, I mean,

00:44:02.560 I've talked about that on here before. It's a whole, I really should, I'm going to look out

00:44:06.880 and see if I can find a guest to really talk about that. Because we took this, again, I tweeted

00:44:12.160 that the other day. I don't care about how well-meaning somebody's actions are. The outcomes

00:44:15.800 are all that matter. And closing down all of the mental health long-term facilities throughout

00:44:21.000 North America was well-meaning through the 60s and 70s and 80s, but it was a disaster. It was a

00:44:26.460 disaster. People needed long-term facilities to live within. Some people, you just can't treat

00:44:31.660 them. You can't keep them stabilized. And if you put them out into the community as they did,

00:44:36.000 they end up in the streets. They end up harming themselves or others. They end up addicted to

00:44:40.640 other things because they aren't being properly cared for or medicated. And that's how they end

00:44:44.020 up taking other crap like meth or fentanyl. I mean, it doesn't fix things for everybody,

00:44:48.420 but there's a whole lot of people on the streets right now that should be in a facility with

00:44:53.380 long-term care, even if they're younger, if they have mental health issues. Face that hard reality.

00:45:00.000 It's not being humane to put them out like that. They can't take care of themselves. And we're

00:45:04.680 seeing that. That's inhumane. People say putting them in a facility like that long-term is inhumane.

00:45:09.200 It is not. And it doesn't have to be. Put aside those visions of an old Victorian Dracula-style

00:45:15.380 mental, you know, mental hospital with people walked in cages and experimented upon and things

00:45:22.220 like that. It doesn't have to be that way. And it hasn't been that way in a while. We just don't

00:45:26.520 have enough space any longer because we're in that weird world of denial, thinking that somehow we

00:45:31.340 can just let them out and they'll be all right. They aren't. They aren't. And everybody's paying

00:45:35.560 the price. Everybody's suffering. I mean, I'm rough when I talk about the addicts and the people on

00:45:40.240 the streets, but I do feel for them. I mean, those are somebody's children, brothers, cousins,

00:45:43.760 parents? They're people. And they're in dire condition. And they're suffering. They're not

00:45:48.420 happy out there. They're not having a good time. And you see them shuffling around, covered in

00:45:51.920 sores, their teeth falling out, stealing things, living in fear, sleeping in the alleys. No, no,

00:45:57.500 they're not having a good time at all. And let's, you know, again, that gets back to those

00:46:03.120 enablement people saying, we could sustain the addiction if they just get clean drugs. Go stuff

00:46:07.780 it. No, you can't. No, you can't. You're just dragging out what is a long and ugly death.

00:46:13.760 they need treatment, they need intervention, and they need to be pulled off the streets. But that's

00:46:17.100 a much bigger discussion altogether, too, along with things like the mental health facilities.

00:46:21.280 But thanks for bringing it up. And yeah, Paradoxie, I'll leave off on that note. Commenters

00:46:26.240 saying, yep, if the institutions were bad, fix the institution. He's absolutely right. You don't

00:46:30.140 have to throw out the institution, fix it. And we can do that. All right, everybody, thank you

00:46:35.140 for joining me today. It's been a good show, a good rant. Lots is developing, lots going on.

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00:47:10.140 $3.52 per metric ton. In the milling wheat markets, December Minneapolis futures lost

00:47:15.200 $0.11 at $7.14, with local hardwood spring bids for October movement at $9.40 per bushel.

00:47:22.100 In the oilseeds, nearby canola futures are down $2.70 at $7.1470 per ton, with delivered

00:47:29.220 values for October movement at $15.88 per bushel. In the pulse markets, nearby red lentils

00:47:35.040 are trading at 36.5 cents a pound and yellow peas remain at 10.75 per bushel. In the cattle

00:47:41.740 markets, December live cattle gain 55 cents at 186.20 per 100 weight. For more information

00:47:48.400 on grain marketing, call me at 403-394-1711. I'm Sean Smith at Marketplace Commodities,

00:47:55.160 accurate real-time marketing information and price. Canadian Shooting Sports Association.

00:47:59.120 Without the CSSA, our gun rights would have been taken long, long ago. These guys are on

00:48:04.280 front lines helping to draft smart and intelligent firearms regulations and legislation in canada

00:48:11.320 and more importantly educating the public about how we keep guns out of the hands of

00:48:15.640 the wrong people to become a member it's absolutely worth every penny

00:48:34.280 We'll be right back.

Western Standard - October 05, 2023

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