Western Standard - May 29, 2024


CMS： Trudeau's immigration policies are crushing Canada


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

199.71323

Word Count

9,657

Sentence Count

739

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

In this episode of the Corey Morgan Show, host Corey Morgan talks to Andrew Lawton, an author of multiple books and the author of the new book, "A Political Life," about the life of Justin Trudeau. They talk about the impact of mass immigration on Canada's social and economic well-being, and why it needs to stop.


Transcript

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00:01:00.000 Good day. Welcome to the Corey Morgan Show. Hey, we're almost in June already. You know, we might have some things to look forward to.
00:01:22.000 I mean, at this time of year, politics can often get even screwier and crazier than it normally does because we're getting near the end of the session.
00:01:29.360 So Alberta's legislative session is ending today. So the last final shots the opposition wants to get in are going to come in.
00:01:35.520 And the last bills that the government wants to stuff through, they're going to stuff them through.
00:01:38.900 Federally, we're going to see that thing pretty soon, too. And then they'll all settle into their, you know, rubber chicken circuit.
00:01:45.000 As they say, bouncing around, pancake breakfast, ribbon cuttings and things for the summer or their own vacation.
00:01:49.680 So keep an eye close on the news in this next few weeks.
00:01:52.840 So this is, like I said, when they try to throw a lot of stuff through.
00:01:55.700 Also, you see, when the government wants to drop something really bad sometimes, particularly federally, do it just before summer and hope that over the course of, you know, summer holidays and everything, the public tends to forget it.
00:02:07.300 And we'll give them a pass and fall and when things all start opening up again.
00:02:11.240 Either way, for the time being, we've got a lot to cover.
00:02:12.800 Got a good show today.
00:02:14.400 I got Andrew Lawton.
00:02:15.920 You probably know who he is.
00:02:17.580 He's with True North Media.
00:02:19.840 He has this show and he's an author of multiple books.
00:02:22.820 And his latest book has come out called Pierre Polyev, A Political Life.
00:02:26.940 He's in studio or he's going to be in a little while.
00:02:28.880 And we're going to talk about that book and learn a little more about the man who very possibly could be our next prime minister.
00:02:35.900 It's going to be a good conversation.
00:02:37.960 All right, well, let's get on what's got me going today.
00:02:39.840 And this is a subject that just keeps going on and on, but it keeps getting worse and worse.
00:02:44.420 And it's worth revisiting, I'm afraid.
00:02:46.580 I mean, right now, Canada, I mean, we're facing social and economic challenges on every front.
00:02:52.160 And let's just say it outright.
00:02:53.940 Mass immigration is one of the prime culprits behind it.
00:02:56.480 People try to obfuscate and everything and say, oh, no, but that's just one thing.
00:02:59.540 There's many others.
00:03:00.040 Yes, there are.
00:03:01.020 But the big one, the big one right now is mass immigration.
00:03:03.880 We have 1.3 million people entered Canada just in 2023.
00:03:08.600 Let's say, you know, access to housing has hit crisis levels.
00:03:13.120 Health care and educational institutions are bursting at the seams.
00:03:15.820 Inflation, it's slamming every type of consumer good.
00:03:19.100 And we've got ethnic-based divisions and conflicts on the rise throughout the country.
00:03:22.980 You don't need to be an economist or a sociologist to realize that, sure, there's no magic bullet to address these challenges.
00:03:30.560 But we can ease the immediate pressures by tapping the brakes on mass immigration.
00:03:34.260 This isn't a matter of selfishness or intolerance.
00:03:37.000 It's logistics.
00:03:38.180 We just can't sustain these numbers.
00:03:40.760 Unfortunately, the Trudeau government has no interest in curbing these immigration levels, much less cutting them.
00:03:47.400 In fact, they keep doubling down.
00:03:49.280 Minister of Immigration Mark Miller, he just announced a plan to quintuple the number of Gazan immigrants coming into Canada.
00:03:56.060 Yeah, five times as many.
00:03:58.120 In fact, he's going to say that they could bring the families, so it could be even higher than that.
00:04:01.720 Now, we've got protests and anti-Semitic violence erupting around the nation.
00:04:05.920 Why on earth do we want to import thousands more people from the world's biggest hotbed of violent anti-Jewish hatred?
00:04:12.740 There's several Arab nations right near Gaza that could take in Gazan refugees if they wanted to,
00:04:18.680 where they presumably would be able to culturally integrate more comfortably than they do within Canada.
00:04:23.480 Is it unreasonable to politely ask those nations to step up instead of Canada?
00:04:27.360 The Liberal government is now pushing legislation that's going to allow expats to automatically pass on their citizenship to children,
00:04:35.180 even if the kids have never set foot in Canada.
00:04:38.060 You might remember the Lebanese issue years ago, maybe not, but Canada had a problem with citizens of convenience.
00:04:43.080 They live abroad, but just pop back occasionally to drain the country of health care services and other such things,
00:04:48.300 or if war breaks up, they'll come here and hide, but then they go back.
00:04:51.700 It's something of a parasitic approach to citizenship, and that policy hole was closed years ago,
00:04:56.640 while the Trudeau government wants to open it back up.
00:04:58.940 So just think how easy it'll be to find a doctor, and it's so easy already,
00:05:02.700 when the Canadian system is now on the hook to provide free care for thousands and thousands more kids born overseas who've never even been in Canada.
00:05:10.180 Then we've got activists pushing for a misguided open border policy,
00:05:13.660 and they've been openly demanding, not asking, demanding,
00:05:16.340 that Canada starts giving permanent resident status to illegal immigrants.
00:05:20.420 Not talking about all immigrants, illegal immigrants.
00:05:22.940 Apparently they don't think the 1.3 million who did legally enter a year are enough.
00:05:27.800 These activists feel emboldened enough through the years of Trudeau's permissive immigration policies,
00:05:32.560 they think they're going to get away with it.
00:05:34.160 We can't dismiss their demands.
00:05:35.640 It's as ridiculous as they sound.
00:05:37.320 The Liberals might consider acquiescing to them.
00:05:39.840 Just think of the volume and quality of new Canadians that we could gain once word gets out
00:05:43.900 that all they have to do is step foot in the country, whether legally or not,
00:05:46.840 and they'll just get full permanent resident status.
00:05:50.060 It's abundantly clear that the Trudeau Liberals are desperately putting their political well-being ahead of the needs of Canadians.
00:05:56.240 The only positive economic indicator the government can point to right now is growth in the gross GDP.
00:06:02.760 And that's how they can claim the nation hasn't officially hit a recession.
00:06:05.540 The only reason the GDP, though, has been growing is due to mass immigration,
00:06:09.120 which creates activity and causes a housing boom.
00:06:11.360 But the GDP per capita for Canadians has been plummeting due to this.
00:06:15.860 The entire country is getting poorer by the day as more people are splitting an economic pie
00:06:20.480 that isn't growing as fast as the population is.
00:06:23.140 Of even more concern, though, and this is the bigger one than the Liberal obsession with mass immigration,
00:06:27.940 is the deftly silence from Conservatives on the issue.
00:06:30.640 If there's going to be any relief for Canadians to look forward to from this current terrible policy,
00:06:34.640 it's expected to come from an incoming Conservative government.
00:06:37.060 But if the Conservatives won't even talk about the issue today, will they find the courage to tackle the issue tomorrow?
00:06:43.100 I mean, every elected Conservative politician lives in dread of being called a racist.
00:06:47.020 Critical discussion of immigration issues is sure to draw that label, even if race has nothing to do with it.
00:06:52.180 Thus, I think, part of the reluctance on the part of Polyev's government to talk about it.
00:06:55.720 But I got some bad news for the Conservative Party of Canada, though.
00:06:58.520 They're going to be called racist no matter what they do.
00:07:00.440 The Trudeau government is cornered and desperate.
00:07:02.740 They'll play the race card without basis or hesitation, even when they get a comfortable lead.
00:07:08.160 What makes the CPC think that staying silent on political issues will keep the Liberals from accusing them of racism?
00:07:13.140 Guess what? The Liberals are also going to accuse them of wanting to ban abortion,
00:07:16.280 wanting to roll back marriage rights for LGBTQ people, and wanting to steal candy from babies.
00:07:20.960 That's the bedrock of every contemporary Liberal campaign technique.
00:07:24.860 Don't worry about trying to pressure Liberal MPs to see reason on the immigration issue.
00:07:28.580 They never will. That ship sailed.
00:07:30.980 Citizens, though, must put pressure on the Conservatives on this issue, and the sooner the better.
00:07:35.380 If they keep taking the path of what they see as the least resistance when it comes to immigration,
00:07:39.480 the mass influx of people coming into Canada will continue unabated, even if we change governments.
00:07:44.440 And at the rate it's going, it's going to crush this nation for generations to come.
00:07:48.500 Clock's ticking, folks.
00:07:50.140 Again, just, you know, we want to support the Conservatives, but don't be afraid to be critical of them, too.
00:07:54.440 I mean, they can make mistakes as well.
00:07:57.360 And if we don't speak up, they're going to do that.
00:08:00.080 All right, let's see what else is going on out there and check in with our news editor, Dave Naylor.
00:08:03.520 Hey, Dave, how's it going?
00:08:04.640 Oh, I'm enjoying the sunshine, Corey, after what seems like weeks of nothing but rain.
00:08:10.240 It's nice to have some sun for a while.
00:08:14.780 Yeah, I actually mowed the lawn the other day for the first time, you know, this season.
00:08:18.160 It was already getting near knee-deep in spots.
00:08:19.860 It's quite a workout when you let it get that long.
00:08:21.800 Yeah, everybody I know is complaining they haven't been able to cut their grass.
00:08:26.060 And as you say, it's getting knee-deep.
00:08:28.800 Anyways, if Nico, the producer, could just put up a photo I sent to him.
00:08:35.640 You tweeted this out a couple days ago, Corey, and I find it absolutely fascinating.
00:08:40.600 Can you just explain what we're looking at here?
00:08:43.120 Sure, actually.
00:08:43.920 Yeah, that fellow on the left, his name is A.W. Stewart.
00:08:46.680 He built, on the exact same spot that my house is, a little shack that was given to him.
00:08:52.500 The land was given by Charlie Prittis, the founder of Prittis, where I live.
00:08:56.260 And he had a little general store and post office there, and he lived in it.
00:09:02.320 And that's him with his horse down by the creek, just down towards the end of my property there.
00:09:06.280 So Jane and I rode for a walk, and that was from 1905 or so.
00:09:10.220 And we went to that same spot.
00:09:11.620 And you can tell by the cliff, though it's hard to tell with the black and white and the angle,
00:09:14.340 the water was too high to get down to it.
00:09:15.840 But that same spot hasn't changed too much, except, of course, the trees.
00:09:19.320 They've really grown since then, because back then they used to cut down everything for fence posts and firewood.
00:09:24.180 And now it's all grown, nice big old growth, which is why I get all those crazy critters in my backyard all the time.
00:09:30.080 Oh, that's very cool, Corey.
00:09:31.520 Yeah, it immediately grabbed my attention when you tweeted it.
00:09:35.100 Yeah, very cool.
00:09:36.000 A tip I would offer to anybody, go to the Glenbow Archives online.
00:09:39.220 There's actually a lot of cool pictures of every neighborhood, parts of Alberta, and it's all public access.
00:09:43.860 It's quite good.
00:09:44.940 Yeah, awesome.
00:09:45.840 Anyways, we've had a really busy morning today, Corey, and lots of weird and wonderful and wacky stories to entertain readers.
00:09:53.300 As you know, yesterday was Menstrual Health Day, Hygiene Day across the world, and the Trudeau Liberals celebrated it in style, all wearing menstrual bracelets and whatnot.
00:10:09.560 And it was met with some scorn, including Lorraine Harper, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's wife, and some funny Twitter comments there.
00:10:21.500 Also out of Ottawa, we have a story about an NDP MP breaking down in tears in the Commons.
00:10:29.540 As she said, climate change is not general neutral.
00:10:34.080 It affects women way more than men.
00:10:36.900 Edmonton City Council has opened up a three-day hearing on their plans for 15-minute cities, and they're getting tons and tons of feedback there.
00:10:46.440 A controversy in the NDP leadership race where Nahid Nenshi and Sarah Hoffman have been accused of lying about visiting the midfield trailer park in Calgary during the time it was being evicted.
00:10:59.560 So that's a good story there, and it looks like Nenshi is sticking by his comments.
00:11:06.260 Charges against PGA star Scotty Scheffler have been dropped.
00:11:10.300 He had to run in with a police officer at the PGA tournament a week or so ago.
00:11:16.960 Fun story of the morning is apparently North Korea has unleashed a literal, I can't even say it, feces bomb on the poor people.
00:11:29.560 In the south, they're loading up balloons filled with feces and floating them over Seoul and exploding them.
00:11:36.420 So the people of Seoul aren't very happy about that.
00:11:40.060 A couple of Kamloops stories on the unmarked alleged grave sites today.
00:11:45.860 We've got a local Indigenous leader saying that the missionaries just took the bodies and disposed of them away from the residential schools.
00:11:55.640 And that's why there have been nobodies found so far.
00:12:00.120 And City TV in Vancouver had to withdraw a story in which they claimed that there were graves found.
00:12:08.340 And your outrageous federal story of the day, Corey, is you remember they sold all those ventilators for scrap metal.
00:12:16.000 So access to information documents show they sold $22,000 ventilators for only $21 so they could, quote, better understand the recycling industry.
00:12:27.440 So you just got to shake your head.
00:12:29.920 That's all you can do.
00:12:31.120 Yeah, you're going to try and laugh to avoid crying.
00:12:33.320 I mean, that's why I couldn't help but chuckle.
00:12:34.480 As horrific it must be if you were living in Seoul and a balloon full of poop blew up and splattered you and your household.
00:12:41.400 But I guess, hey, if we're going to have disputes between two neighboring countries, I can think of worse things they lob at each other than balloons full of feces.
00:12:50.520 So maybe if it just sticks to that, it could be worse.
00:12:53.960 Absolutely.
00:12:55.100 All right.
00:12:55.860 Well, thanks for the update.
00:12:57.220 I'll let you get back to hammering away on that and hopefully less fecal-related matter for the rest of your day.
00:13:03.260 Thanks, Corey.
00:13:03.880 All right.
00:13:04.540 Thanks, Dave.
00:13:05.220 That is our news editor, Dave Naylor.
00:13:06.580 And as you can hear, yes, lots of stories breaking all the time, covering things from the light to the serious.
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00:13:38.160 Important stories like that.
00:13:39.300 Yeah.
00:13:40.180 Like I said, we could cover the light stuff, too.
00:13:42.060 This is kind of light and heavy mix at the same time as Dave mentioned.
00:13:44.440 And if you don't punish yourself by going on X and things like that, you might not have noticed it.
00:13:50.120 But the big virtue signaling issue of the day yesterday for liberal members of parliament was to walk around with these little bracelets with the red part in the middle, which I guess was to symbolize their unity with people who menstruate.
00:14:02.480 We used to call the women, but now I guess you have to break that down and specify it.
00:14:07.220 Part of what's so frustrating with this sort of stuff from the woke is that, you know, the identity of women themselves.
00:14:14.760 This is supposed to be a virtue signaling exercise in support of women.
00:14:17.940 But these are the same people also who completely undercut women all the time when saying, yes, but as long as that person over there wants to change their personal identity, they can compete in sports.
00:14:28.440 And they're supposed to be considered a woman as well.
00:14:30.940 But guess what, guys?
00:14:32.160 They don't menstruate.
00:14:32.980 Either way, do we really need to discuss it?
00:14:34.660 I don't think there's really been that much oppression of menstruators in North America these days.
00:14:40.060 We understand it's a regular bodily function.
00:14:42.620 It's just what we do.
00:14:43.600 I don't think we tend to shame people for it.
00:14:45.460 I mean, everybody has a lot of bodily functions we don't tend to discuss at length.
00:14:49.300 We don't have to wear bracelets to celebrate them all the time.
00:14:52.100 But this is what our elected officials get up to.
00:14:54.320 Either way, it gives us something lighter to report on.
00:14:55.960 It can't all be Israel and Gaza and the horrific stuff.
00:14:58.420 We can talk about period bracelets now and then for a change as well.
00:15:01.380 All right, well, let's get back to the domestic front and speak with our guests.
00:15:04.880 I've really been looking forward to this.
00:15:06.100 We've got in studio, author, show host, writer with True North.
00:15:11.920 Boy, a long description, Andrew Lawton in studio.
00:15:14.700 And you've just released yet another book, Andrew.
00:15:16.820 Thanks for coming in and talk to us about it today.
00:15:18.980 Yes, happy to be here.
00:15:19.540 I'm sorry, I forgot my menstruation bracelet.
00:15:21.220 I didn't know that was the fashion of the day.
00:15:23.140 I need to get a red Sharpie.
00:15:24.300 You could make one.
00:15:25.140 Yeah, yeah, just my Apple Watch.
00:15:26.760 I could just, like, color over.
00:15:27.940 And it's actually, this is my diarrhea bracelet.
00:15:30.300 You said we need to celebrate every bodily function.
00:15:32.740 Well, I put one on.
00:15:33.880 If you're familiar with my account, I'm a little tasteless.
00:15:36.260 I had a candy corn bracelet that I put on.
00:15:38.260 I said, for the day of recognition of pooping.
00:15:40.380 Yeah, there you go.
00:15:41.140 They've got mixed reviews.
00:15:43.180 Well, like I said, we've got to laugh now and then.
00:15:44.820 As serious as these issues are, you know, it's got to lighten up a little bit.
00:15:49.500 So you wrote on Pierre Polyev, you know, A Political Life.
00:15:53.660 So a biography kind of of Mr. Polyev up till now.
00:15:56.880 I mean, this is a story that's probably only halfway written.
00:16:00.100 Yeah, there's always a challenge in writing about something that is so contemporary.
00:16:04.280 So my first book was on the Freedom Convoy, and I wrote it after the convoy had ended.
00:16:08.320 So it was more retrospective.
00:16:10.120 Whereas here, it's a point in time.
00:16:12.700 And while, you know, likely you could make another book in four years or eight years or
00:16:16.780 12 years, depending on how the election goes.
00:16:18.740 I am also convinced that it was important to have a documented record of his life to this
00:16:24.220 point, how he got to where he is, which for Canadians who are deciding how to vote for
00:16:28.780 or Canadians that are just observers of politics, I think can be a really useful tool.
00:16:33.460 Yeah, well, and finding out who Mr. Polyev is, I mean, he's an outspoken, extroverted man.
00:16:37.960 Yet at the same time, he's very private about himself.
00:16:40.340 You don't get to know a lot about him.
00:16:43.040 We've had him here a couple of times, see to where you are for interviews, and a great,
00:16:46.780 fantastic talks about what he wants to do with the party.
00:16:49.080 But you don't get much more else out of him.
00:16:51.540 So, I mean, as an author, it must have been challenging me because you want to write a
00:16:53.820 bit about him as well.
00:16:55.340 I mean, you know, the personal aspects.
00:16:57.040 I mean, not getting, you know, exposing or embarrassing, but just like what makes this
00:17:00.980 man tick?
00:17:01.840 Yeah, no, I would have totally been all on the exposing and embarrassing stuff if I got it.
00:17:05.340 No, you're right.
00:17:07.260 And when he talks about his personal life, usually it's in a very curated way to make
00:17:11.180 a point.
00:17:11.700 So he's talked about, you know, the upbringing of his parents, school teachers from Calgary,
00:17:16.220 the adoption he went through.
00:17:17.560 He's talked about his parents having to downsize because of interest rates back a few decades
00:17:22.620 ago.
00:17:23.200 So there are little glimpses of this you get through.
00:17:25.740 But the one thing for me, though, in writing this was that I was talking to a lot of the
00:17:29.280 people around him, and they were a lot looser with their lips than he might have been.
00:17:33.180 So I still think I got a relatively good picture of his life, you know, going back to his youth
00:17:37.780 in Calgary, his adolescence, getting involved in politics, and a little bit of that personal
00:17:41.960 stuff does shine through.
00:17:43.480 Oh, definitely.
00:17:44.020 I mean, and there's some interesting things with his history.
00:17:46.960 I mean, his father came out of the closet late in life.
00:17:52.460 It turns out he was a gay man, and, you know, it was a split family.
00:17:55.600 But it sounds like Mr. Polyev is very well, comfortably reconciled with that.
00:17:59.200 But these are formative things with people on their way and growing.
00:18:01.800 And I find some of that more fascinating to know those things, I guess, than just the
00:18:06.500 policy statements that we tend to get.
00:18:08.260 Yeah, I mean, no one exists in isolation from their experiences and their stories.
00:18:12.320 So even if people know him in a political context, there's still a human experience that has led
00:18:17.600 to that moment.
00:18:18.440 And, you know, how much it has led to it, who knows?
00:18:21.440 One example that comes out in the book and has not been reported elsewhere is that his daughter
00:18:26.380 has quite a severe case of autism.
00:18:28.620 And that's something that he, as a father, has had to grapple with while working in politics.
00:18:33.320 So that's the type of experience that could very easily shape your outlook to certain issues
00:18:38.140 as a parliamentarian.
00:18:40.220 Well, absolutely.
00:18:41.380 And I mean, it'll give, I guess, more of a direct, you know, sense of things when it comes to the
00:18:45.900 challenges parents with kids with special needs have, especially as a parliamentarian.
00:18:49.880 When you're in a job, when you're flying and bouncing around with a child that needs a lot of
00:18:52.820 stability and attention, it's a very challenging role, which also shows, I mean, that was a large
00:18:59.240 part of why Mr. Polyev didn't run in the last leadership, because that was just coming out at
00:19:02.920 that time.
00:19:04.440 But now he's gone for such, he's a driven man.
00:19:08.420 I mean, something that was clear in the book, too, though, you know, there's people who did other
00:19:11.940 careers and then fell into politics later.
00:19:13.700 But it sounds like Mr. Polyev has always had a razor focus on the political life.
00:19:18.240 Yeah, the subtitle of the book is A Political Life for a reason, because his life has been
00:19:22.040 politics, politics has been his life.
00:19:24.020 And even the people around him have been, I don't want to say unchanged, he certainly met
00:19:27.780 people over the last 20 years.
00:19:29.540 But a lot of the relationships that he forged when he was first getting involved in politics
00:19:33.460 are relationships that are still very valuable to him today.
00:19:36.400 I mean, he interned with people that are now members of parliament with him.
00:19:39.520 He volunteered on campaigns with people who are now working on his campaign.
00:19:43.160 The internship coordinator when he interned for Jason Kenney was Jenny Byrne, that he
00:19:48.320 had a 12-year relationship with and is now his chief advisor.
00:19:51.440 So all of these connections, again, many of which forged right here in Calgary or certainly
00:19:55.860 in Alberta, have really followed him throughout his entire life.
00:19:59.680 Well, for people who work in politics, I mean, the network is really important.
00:20:02.780 I mean, some come from outside and jump in, but if you're immersed within it, I mean, your
00:20:06.520 social network is there, as I saw with Jenny Byrne.
00:20:09.720 It's interesting that he can, you know, it's difficult in life to reconcile that and keep
00:20:13.660 a professional relationship later on because they're both very interested, conservative
00:20:18.180 people, whilst, you know, no longer being a couple.
00:20:23.220 Yeah.
00:20:23.760 And I think that the one thing that came out, and Jenny Byrne did actually speak about her
00:20:27.500 relationship on the record, is that they were friends first and are friends since.
00:20:31.960 That's the way that relationship is framed.
00:20:34.160 And they've always had a tremendous amount of trust for each other.
00:20:37.440 And I think the fact that, you know, Pierre Pauliev has now made her the person that, really,
00:20:42.520 I don't even think it was a pool of people that auditioned for it.
00:20:45.120 I think it was just a given that she would be the one in the driver's seat on his leadership
00:20:48.700 campaign.
00:20:49.280 And now what he's doing as a leader.
00:20:51.700 Yeah.
00:20:51.800 Well, and trust is integral.
00:20:53.020 As you get to those higher levels, you just really want somebody that you can feel comfortable
00:20:56.820 in speaking with.
00:20:58.200 So he's considered that very important for himself.
00:21:01.180 So being his, you know, I mean, some of what you wrote about, too, I mean, his early essay
00:21:06.200 that won him a prize, the things that got him in.
00:21:08.260 But is he an ideologue?
00:21:10.960 Would you say that?
00:21:12.160 Very much so.
00:21:13.600 He's also quite practical, though.
00:21:15.460 And I think that there's this dilemma in politics where you have people that are all
00:21:19.320 about electability and people who are all about, you know, the purity of ideology.
00:21:24.620 And there's often the belief that there's no middle ground.
00:21:27.340 And I think, well, I've never heard of him using it.
00:21:29.460 I think Polyev really took a cue from the old William F. Buckley Jr.
00:21:33.300 Rule of, you know, support the most electable, most conservative candidate.
00:21:37.420 You have to look at that intersection of practicality and pragmatism and of, you know, that
00:21:43.920 philosophical purity.
00:21:45.380 And when you talk about that essay, a lot of what he advocates for has remained unchanged
00:21:50.680 over the last two decades.
00:21:52.020 He's still he's always been committed to, you know, classical liberal principles, freedom
00:21:56.500 of speech, the idea of the free market, the idea of getting government out of the way.
00:22:01.320 And a lot of the messaging that he used in that essay, almost identical to what he's
00:22:05.860 campaigning on in the leadership race and since becoming leader.
00:22:08.900 But yeah, and I mean, it's it's picking you don't want to die on an ideological hill because
00:22:13.680 it can be a waste of a party or a campaign or anything.
00:22:15.860 Sometimes it's time to back off of it.
00:22:17.900 Though, I mean, for say it's easier for me to do is somebody commenting from the sides
00:22:21.500 to get on their case when they back off on other things.
00:22:23.720 But a frustrating thing that I hit every time and they didn't like that when he came
00:22:27.520 in a pet issue of mine, supply management drives me bananas.
00:22:30.880 As a conservative, as a classical liberal, it's just as, you know, antithetical to the
00:22:35.820 entire ideology.
00:22:36.760 And I've asked him point blank, would you get rid of it?
00:22:39.020 He's been honest.
00:22:39.780 He said, no, he wouldn't.
00:22:41.160 OK, so he's he knows that on principle, he doesn't feel it's a good policy.
00:22:46.960 But if you're looking to elect a government across this country, you just don't want to
00:22:50.680 pick a war with Quebec dairy farmers.
00:22:52.520 Yeah, I mean, and this was the case with Andrew Scheer in 2019 as well.
00:22:55.940 I'm convinced that if you were to be behind closed doors with Andrew Scheer, having a
00:22:59.600 few drinks and just, you know, chatting about politics and policy, he's probably against
00:23:04.300 supply management.
00:23:05.640 But at its core in politics, that's the issue that seems to just be the weird one that
00:23:10.560 convinces everyone to go against their ideological instinct, including people that, by the way,
00:23:14.940 had no tolerance for the wheatborne monopoly.
00:23:17.840 But when it comes to when it comes to the dairy, the dairy industry, it's a different calculation.
00:23:22.380 Well, that's just what I guess as a Western pundit sort of gets a guy a little nervous
00:23:27.560 if you're wondering how far does the pragmatism go?
00:23:29.340 Because we know the Quebec tail tends to wag the Canadian dog a lot.
00:23:33.360 How far would it get, perhaps, with a prime minister and Paulyev before he might put his
00:23:38.300 foot down with some Quebec democracy?
00:23:39.320 Yeah, well, there's a little bit of history in the book that I think is quite interesting
00:23:42.640 in that regard.
00:23:43.360 So when Stephen Harper became prime minister in 2006, the Quebec caucus was very influential.
00:23:49.880 And part of that was because they wouldn't stop putting their agenda forward.
00:23:54.920 And Stephen Harper had said what a couple of MPs thought they had to read between the
00:23:59.980 lines on was, you know, when these guys come in here and they make these asks and there's
00:24:03.340 no one on the other side to push back against it, I have limited options.
00:24:06.700 So there was this group that formed within the Conservative caucus, which called themselves
00:24:11.160 the Khmer Bleu after the Khmer Rouge.
00:24:13.640 And Pierre Paulyev was a member of this.
00:24:15.620 And they were the conservative members of the Conservative caucus.
00:24:18.580 And their goal was to meet every day, every week before the caucus meeting and say, how
00:24:23.280 can we push conservatism within our party?
00:24:25.560 How can we push the government towards a conservative agenda?
00:24:28.880 So I think Paulyev does have a track record of trying to keep the party accountable to the
00:24:32.480 right.
00:24:32.780 Now, the question that raises, will there be a Khmer Bleu in a Paulyev government?
00:24:38.000 Will there be a contingent in that caucus that says, OK, we need to make sure that our
00:24:41.740 conservative principles are not left behind?
00:24:43.460 Well, there's no doubt, though, that the influences of Prime Minister Harper on him will be very
00:24:47.760 strong and felt.
00:24:48.920 I mean, let's see, he cut his teeth in government under Harper's leadership.
00:24:53.760 And I would imagine, hopefully, he's picked the best and worst of that.
00:24:57.420 I mean, there was good and bad to come from the Harper.
00:24:59.600 How would you see him differing from Harper if he became Prime Minister?
00:25:02.960 The one area that was raised by a number of people I spoke to is Harper's incrementalism.
00:25:08.580 Now, to give Harper a little bit of a pass on this, he was elected with a minority government,
00:25:13.880 and then he was re-elected with a minority government.
00:25:16.260 He didn't get his majority until five years later in 2011.
00:25:20.200 But by that time, there had been this commitment to this path of having to build consensus,
00:25:24.600 work across the aisle.
00:25:25.800 So that really aggressive, bold agenda, the radical agenda, didn't really happen.
00:25:31.340 So I mean, it was funny when the left and the media were accusing Harper of being this
00:25:34.760 like, you know, radical draconian leader, a lot of conservatists were like, I wish, where
00:25:38.900 is that Harper?
00:25:40.000 So I think Paulyev has learned a little bit from that.
00:25:42.320 And I also think if you look at the poll numbers, he is likely at this point anyway,
00:25:46.060 to be entering with a really decisive majority.
00:25:48.880 So he has a latitude that Harper never had in his first term, if this pans out.
00:25:54.380 And I think he's going to use it.
00:25:55.920 I don't think he wants to squander that leverage that he'll have.
00:25:59.640 Now, the challenge is, and this I know will be of interest to people in the West,
00:26:03.060 is the Senate.
00:26:04.640 Stephen Harper left 22 vacancies in the Senate when he left office.
00:26:08.860 Those were filled by Justin Trudeau.
00:26:10.620 Justin Trudeau has had 10 years of appointing senators.
00:26:13.440 Will the Senate become an impediment to Pierre Paulyev's agenda as prime minister?
00:26:18.160 I don't know.
00:26:19.020 It's a possibility, though.
00:26:20.520 Well, if you get those big standoffs, I mean, the supposedly independent senators of Trudeau.
00:26:24.280 Yeah, the nonpartisan senators, I think, will very quickly show themselves to be anything but.
00:26:29.460 So, I mean, that could be, I guess, a check that would hold him a bit.
00:26:32.380 Because as I said, I mean, if the polls hold it, he could have a supermajority,
00:26:35.080 unlike anything we've seen since the 80s among conservatives.
00:26:39.240 What do you think, though, then he would take on?
00:26:41.160 I mean, if you've got that opportunity, we know how the politics works.
00:26:43.420 You're going to hit it hard in the first year or two and then kind of ease off when you're moving towards re-election.
00:26:47.500 So what tough ones do you think he would bite his teeth into in that first year or two if he got that majority?
00:26:52.180 Well, I mean, look, he's been a very, very strong fiscal hawk.
00:26:56.780 And I know that he's being left a mess by the Liberal government.
00:27:00.500 But he also has to prove that he's making pretty real steps towards balancing the budget.
00:27:04.180 So that's going to be a challenge that he has to take up or show really good progress on.
00:27:08.680 He's got to defund the CBC.
00:27:10.260 I mean, this is not the number one issue for a lot of people, but it's an important issue and it matters to his base.
00:27:15.460 And he has not left himself any wiggle room to get out of that.
00:27:18.300 So if that doesn't come within the first hundred days, there's something wrong.
00:27:21.420 Well, if it doesn't come in the first hundred days, you know, I'll be among the people.
00:27:23.800 Yeah, as will I.
00:27:24.920 I'm not saying turn them out of office, but hey, get a role in here.
00:27:28.240 You know, we can't feel that bad.
00:27:29.680 Yeah, well, you guys will have some new, you can move into the CBC headquarters in Calgary, expand a bit.
00:27:34.820 Yeah, I would need to be sanitized.
00:27:37.060 We could do so.
00:27:39.460 He's got his work cut out, though.
00:27:40.800 What sort of pitfalls?
00:27:42.280 I mean, you see, we got, what, 16 months until the anticipated next election.
00:27:46.600 If Trudeau was really crazy and intransigent, he could actually stretch it for another year beyond that.
00:27:51.140 Some people might not realize that.
00:27:52.880 They're kind of, I think, in desperation and just hoping that almost the Conservatives trip themselves up.
00:27:58.260 What sort of minefield do you think is ahead of Mr. Paglia?
00:28:00.900 I mean, you know, it's a dangerous course to hold the power.
00:28:03.440 Some people say you peak too early with the polls.
00:28:05.500 You're really at a risk of a hard fall.
00:28:07.280 Yeah, there's always the X factor.
00:28:09.260 I mean, not to, you know, get all conspiratorial, but a pandemic.
00:28:12.760 I mean, if there's some event like that, some national crisis of sorts that gives Trudeau the opportunity to be the daddy again, to be in the driver's seat, to be the unifying figure that he pretended he was, that's obviously an issue that could harm Conservatives.
00:28:27.480 Although I think that in general, when you look economically at where things are, the deck is stacked against Justin Trudeau.
00:28:33.440 People's mortgages are coming up for renewal.
00:28:35.320 Interest rates are going up.
00:28:36.700 All of the issues we see with cost of living and housing are going to get worse in the next two years.
00:28:41.000 So I do think that there is an incentive for Trudeau to, like, if he goes to the polls now, it's not going to work out well for him.
00:28:46.940 So I think that he wants to wait and see if something, something puts the voters a little bit more in his corner.
00:28:53.360 But again, I have a hard time seeing what that path would be.
00:28:56.440 Well, that's it.
00:28:56.900 I mean, they're praying for the usual issues.
00:28:58.620 They're throwing it out there, trying to keep abortion alive.
00:28:59.960 Yeah, it's going to be abortion and assault rifles.
00:29:02.480 Anytime they're saying abortion and assault rifles, it's because nothing else is working.
00:29:05.340 There's been too many Conservative governments in a row that never acted on abortions.
00:29:08.420 And so I think that assault rifle is not loaded.
00:29:11.800 But the Liberals can never be discounted.
00:29:13.680 I mean, they are an established, even if Trudeau might be less than competent in some ways, they've got some very strong minds and well-organized people back there.
00:29:21.440 Probably I was just aware of this as anybody, though.
00:29:23.240 Yeah, and when you have nothing to lose.
00:29:25.320 I mean, it's the caged animal approach.
00:29:27.320 When you're backed into a corner, to use all the cliches here, that's when people come out swinging and swing for the fences.
00:29:31.980 And, look, I'm of the mind that Justin Trudeau is a burn-it-all-down-with-him kind of guy.
00:29:36.140 I actually don't think he cares what he leaves behind.
00:29:38.840 I think that he will go nasty, he'll go dirty, he'll go low.
00:29:43.180 And if the whole party crumbles, it doesn't really matter to him.
00:29:47.440 Yeah, and it's, you know, I wrote that in a recent column.
00:29:50.820 I ended, you know, it's misattributed to Sun Tzu, but something along the lines of, you know, an unprincipled leader will burn down the nation and rule over the ashes.
00:29:57.780 And Trudeau has a bit of that in him, I'm afraid.
00:29:59.240 And, yeah, well, time will tell.
00:30:02.360 So, before I let you go, today, for those watching live right now, you've got a book kickoff going on in Calgary, an event.
00:30:09.380 Where's that at?
00:30:10.060 What time?
00:30:10.620 Yeah, well, Pierre Polyev's life started in Calgary, so we thought it was fitting for the book about Pierre Polyev to launch in Calgary.
00:30:16.920 I love this city.
00:30:17.840 We're going to be at the Ranchman's Club at 4 o'clock.
00:30:20.600 Okay, and just so folks know, we've got the Ranchman's Bar that's down on McLeod.
00:30:23.800 That's not what you're talking about.
00:30:25.040 You're talking about the Ranchman's Club, which is the outline.
00:30:27.180 But people do get that mixed up.
00:30:28.280 Yeah, it's a really cool old club, actually.
00:30:30.200 It's really nice.
00:30:31.080 You know, aside from coming to see your book.
00:30:32.460 I've never been.
00:30:33.400 Oh, okay.
00:30:33.940 Yeah, tickets are available at modernmiraclenetwork.org slash lot.
00:30:37.740 Okay, excellent.
00:30:38.620 And where else can people find your book?
00:30:40.580 Well, everywhere.
00:30:41.260 It's on Amazon.
00:30:42.020 It's on Indigo.
00:30:42.760 And you can always support independent publishing by going to Sutherland House, which is the publisher.
00:30:47.440 And they have it available directly.
00:30:49.240 Excellent.
00:30:49.720 Well, thanks for writing the book.
00:30:51.360 And, well, multiple books.
00:30:52.640 I mean, you've got a few out there.
00:30:53.720 I recommend folks get out there and grab a few copies out there.
00:30:56.700 But this is the latest one with Pierre Polyev, A Political Life.
00:30:59.720 And, yeah, thank you for doing it.
00:31:02.300 And I'm sure it'll sell well and people will appreciate your documenting the first half of Pierre Polyev's life.
00:31:08.500 Anyways, it'll be interesting right in the second half when he's done with politics.
00:31:11.040 Thanks a lot, Corey.
00:31:11.700 All right.
00:31:11.880 Thank you, Andrew.
00:31:13.880 Yes, as I said, that was Andrew Lawton.
00:31:15.840 Yeah, the Ranchman Club.
00:31:16.960 It is in the Beltline.
00:31:17.920 It is a neat spot.
00:31:19.260 You can get there for the book launch in person.
00:31:22.500 Meet Andrew.
00:31:23.800 Grab your copy, guys.
00:31:25.220 Get on down there if you're in the Calgary area office.
00:31:27.300 And, of course, if you're not, I mean, search it out.
00:31:29.180 I said that book's available on pretty much every platform.
00:31:32.460 Support local media.
00:31:33.360 Support local publishers.
00:31:34.900 Get your copy.
00:31:35.780 It's cool stuff.
00:31:36.500 I mean, we want to know.
00:31:37.040 This is kind of your head start on who the next prime minister might be, you know.
00:31:42.160 And, well, it's looking very likely to be.
00:31:45.580 And I'm kind of interested.
00:31:46.960 You know, we want to look at these things.
00:31:48.160 As I said before, when Polyev's been on the show a couple times, he's just, he says the right things.
00:31:52.540 He's a smart man.
00:31:53.320 I think he's principled.
00:31:54.260 But he is also, he's always very controlled.
00:31:56.540 He's tight.
00:31:57.080 He sticks to what, you know, is careful territory, which is kind of a good and a bad thing.
00:32:03.860 I mean, he's quite different, say, than Premier Daniel Smith.
00:32:07.700 Daniel Smith, I think her greatest strength and her greatest weakness is that she's impulsive.
00:32:11.480 She'll just go with it.
00:32:13.000 She jumps right out there and does things.
00:32:15.600 Sometimes it's for the better.
00:32:17.220 Sometimes she gets herself in the soup.
00:32:19.320 I don't think we're going to see that with Polyev.
00:32:20.940 He just works so carefully and controlled with things that, you know, it's always going to be planned.
00:32:26.780 Though, I mean, hey, not everything always goes to plan.
00:32:28.740 So it'll be interesting to see what happens in the months to come with him.
00:32:32.040 And so, you know, a story that's been going for a little bit, and it's something I talk about a lot.
00:32:36.620 You know, we'll kind of turn a little bit here.
00:32:38.760 Dave mentioned it on the news update.
00:32:40.460 It's just everything's coming to a head again.
00:32:42.480 So it's, what was it, on the 27th was the three-year anniversary of when the anomalies were found at the Kamloops former residential school site.
00:32:51.180 I mean, that, we've never seen anything like it in the country.
00:32:53.780 The whole nation, I mean, it made international news.
00:32:56.620 The headlines were insane.
00:32:57.940 They were talking about mass graves, mass murders, priests forcing children to go out in the night and bury bodies in an apple orchard.
00:33:06.980 This is how crazy and extreme the rhetoric was getting around this.
00:33:11.360 You know, the Pope himself came over and apologized.
00:33:15.400 Trudeau created a holiday.
00:33:17.660 The flags were kept at half-mast for six months.
00:33:21.120 It's never been done in Canadian history all over this alleged 215.
00:33:27.980 It began with bodies outside of the Kamloops residential school.
00:33:31.140 I've got to admit, part of why I'm as grumpy on this issue and stuck on it, too, is that at first, I fell for it, too.
00:33:37.460 When I first read the headlines that they've, because the headlines said they've found the bodies, the graves of 215 children.
00:33:44.000 I was aghast.
00:33:44.760 Like, oh, my God.
00:33:45.800 It was way worse than I ever imagined.
00:33:47.620 I mean, I was familiar with residential schools and the issues, but holy cow, this is terrible.
00:33:52.100 I can't imagine it.
00:33:53.160 Let's get on this.
00:33:53.840 Let's get excavating.
00:33:55.280 Let's find the families of these children.
00:33:57.360 Let's find these perpetrators if they're still alive.
00:34:00.340 I mean, the stories that this was apparently happening in the 50s or 60s, they should still be there.
00:34:04.080 Well, it's three years later.
00:34:07.520 No bodies.
00:34:08.840 No bodies.
00:34:10.060 A hundred churches in Canada got vandalized.
00:34:13.260 Some burnt right to the ground over this.
00:34:16.660 No bodies.
00:34:18.560 The band was given $8 million almost three years ago to investigate this, to follow up on this.
00:34:26.540 No bodies.
00:34:28.800 Why?
00:34:29.940 Because there aren't any.
00:34:30.980 I'm going to come out right and say it.
00:34:33.480 I believe to the core of my soul.
00:34:35.880 I could be wrong.
00:34:37.020 I will admit that I could be wrong.
00:34:39.000 But you know what?
00:34:39.560 There's only one way to prove me wrong at this point.
00:34:41.400 Get a shovel, get out there, dig a hole, and find a body.
00:34:47.100 This is ridiculous.
00:34:49.080 This is absurd.
00:34:50.000 This is such a serious, serious issue.
00:34:52.020 It's been so socially divisive for people.
00:34:54.680 For the people who really do believe that hundreds of children have been murdered and secretly buried in this field.
00:35:01.900 I can't imagine.
00:35:02.940 I can understand the rage of First Nations people or even non-First Nations people if you're believing that story.
00:35:07.320 Of course, but now the rage because it's untrue.
00:35:10.560 I mean, I'm happy that there weren't 200 and some children murdered and buried in there.
00:35:14.220 Absolutely, I'm happy about that.
00:35:15.480 But I'm furious that we swallowed this hoax, hook, line, and sinker, without putting forward the same sort of demands for evidence that we would have with anybody else.
00:35:25.360 With anybody else.
00:35:27.300 I own a little acreage.
00:35:28.820 What if I had gone to the press and the public and said the prior owner of my acreage murdered and buried 50 kids in the trees behind my house?
00:35:39.020 I did a little radar study and I think I found the evidence of all those 50 graves back there.
00:35:44.860 Oh, no, no, no, no.
00:35:45.940 No, no, no police.
00:35:47.260 No investigation.
00:35:48.100 No digging.
00:35:48.600 Just take my word for it.
00:35:50.340 Oh, you're going to give me some millions of dollars to follow up?
00:35:52.280 Okay, three years later, I still haven't even dug a hole?
00:35:54.440 No, like that's the analogy of what we're going on.
00:35:57.920 The Picton Farm, you know, the RCMP went through the dirt to find bones, to get DNA evidence, to find the victims of that monster.
00:36:07.720 Yet, nobody has moved a teaspoon of dirt at the Kamloops site.
00:36:12.900 Why?
00:36:13.620 Because there's no bodies.
00:36:15.240 The myth will be gone.
00:36:16.340 The $8 million.
00:36:17.160 And where did the $8 million go?
00:36:19.340 They haven't spent it excavating.
00:36:20.920 They haven't spent it researching.
00:36:22.280 Where did it go?
00:36:25.280 That's another big question.
00:36:26.760 Thanks to Justin Trudeau, we're not allowed to audit these bans anymore.
00:36:29.800 Did some people on the reserve get some new SUVs, perhaps?
00:36:33.920 Some nicer vacations?
00:36:35.060 I don't know.
00:36:35.980 If you want to end the speculation, show us the books.
00:36:39.480 Show us.
00:36:40.060 You want to end the denialism.
00:36:41.940 The denialism, that's what they call it.
00:36:43.380 That's what started coming up.
00:36:44.300 There's even a liberal coming up and saying, we should make it illegal for people to criticize any of the given story, the rhetoric on the residential schools.
00:36:53.080 They want to make it illegal to talk about that.
00:36:55.200 So this conversation I'm having right now, if they had it their way, it would be even illegal for me to say this.
00:37:00.760 Why?
00:37:02.040 Why?
00:37:02.880 Prove me wrong.
00:37:03.940 If you want to shut down this quote-unquote denialism, what better way than having a forensic investigation of this alleged mass grave and say, see, there's the bodies of the children.
00:37:15.600 But you see, the thing is, too, that people have been finding is that there was very good record-keeping.
00:37:22.420 At these residential schools, even though they were not nice places, there were abuses.
00:37:26.680 So let's not beat around the bush there.
00:37:29.400 It was a failed policy.
00:37:30.980 It was a bad idea.
00:37:32.260 I won't deny any of that.
00:37:33.960 There just wasn't hundreds of children murdered and buried in the orchards.
00:37:37.100 That's what I'm denying.
00:37:38.820 And with those records, when kids died, it was documented because that's how the schools got paid.
00:37:45.600 They had to document the students, how long they were there, and they had to invoice the government to get their bit of money.
00:37:50.540 These kids didn't vanish.
00:37:51.760 And this is the other thing that's missing from this whole equation.
00:37:53.660 Where's the reports of these missing children?
00:37:55.300 Where did they come from?
00:37:56.060 How did they find 215 children and manage to squirrel them away and bury them and not have a single aunt, uncle, cousin, brother, sister say that these kids vanished?
00:38:07.280 The hypocrisy goes further.
00:38:09.540 We've had noise going on in Winnipeg for a while because it sounds like a sick man who's probably a serial killer.
00:38:16.660 He's in jail.
00:38:17.600 They suspect that he disposed of the bodies of two indigenous women in the Winnipeg garbage dump.
00:38:22.600 Now, to excavate and find bodies in a garbage dump in a city of hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people,
00:38:27.580 we're talking about a dangerous activity that would take years, assuming the bodies are in there and cost hundreds of millions.
00:38:36.200 Yet, it looks like their governments could be willing to spend that kind of money and do that.
00:38:40.040 And why?
00:38:40.440 Because they're saying it's so sacred to find the bodies so that they can be returned to the family and properly interred, properly buried.
00:38:47.280 Okay, so why is it you're willing to spend hundreds of millions and overturn an entire garbage dump in Winnipeg because it's so sacred,
00:38:53.940 yet you don't want to move a shovel full of earth in Kamloops where apparently you have 200 to 215 children buried there
00:39:01.980 and you actually even know where all the plots are.
00:39:04.420 It stinks.
00:39:05.200 And then some people are starting to realize it because even the Kamloops band has changed their language.
00:39:12.240 They've been calling it unmarked graves for years now.
00:39:16.920 They've been calling it that.
00:39:18.460 Suddenly, their language changed.
00:39:19.840 Now, they're calling it anomalies.
00:39:22.760 Anomalies.
00:39:23.700 And they might even say it's suspected of being graves.
00:39:26.020 That's a big leap, you guys.
00:39:28.080 That's a pretty big leap.
00:39:29.280 Why are you backpedaling?
00:39:30.640 Oh, yeah, because there's no bodies.
00:39:31.640 But then we get the other ones, the kooks, the crazed ones.
00:39:35.940 So there's a chief comes forward and the head of the British Columbia Assembly of First Nations,
00:39:41.700 and he does an interview the other day, says,
00:39:43.240 well, the reason the bodies of the residential school victims may never be found is because they're incinerated.
00:39:47.920 You see those nasty priests, they built giant crematoriums and they burned the bodies to ashes,
00:39:52.940 and I guess they must have taken the crematoriums down and hid those too because nobody can find them.
00:39:57.380 But this guy went on the news and he put out this crap.
00:39:59.600 He's lying.
00:40:00.340 He's lying through his teeth.
00:40:01.300 He's making excuses.
00:40:02.540 The bottom line is because there's no bodies.
00:40:04.060 So now they're making excuses for no bodies.
00:40:05.640 Rather than accepting that there was a hoax, do you really want the truth?
00:40:08.660 They talk about truth and reconciliation commission.
00:40:11.160 The word's right in it.
00:40:13.020 Anybody who really cares about this, you should start with the truth.
00:40:15.240 Instead, they're doubling down on lies.
00:40:18.040 Why?
00:40:19.300 Oh, yeah.
00:40:20.120 Eight million dollars to investigate nothing.
00:40:21.880 That's why.
00:40:22.840 And that's just one reserve that got that.
00:40:24.840 This is a money train for a whole lot of people.
00:40:27.160 But this money train isn't just stealing from the taxpayers.
00:40:29.940 It's dividing the country.
00:40:31.540 It's making people feel victimized intergenerationally even more than they have been for no good reason but greed on the part of some of these people who want to perpetuate this hoax, this myth.
00:40:43.460 So now he's saying that they were incinerated.
00:40:46.660 But what gets me, if it had been anybody else to say that sort of thing on the news, they would have been called out and say, wait a minute, where did you get that from?
00:40:53.420 Show me some evidence.
00:40:54.280 Back that up.
00:40:54.920 What are you doing?
00:40:55.980 But because this was a First Nations chief?
00:40:58.280 Nah.
00:40:58.900 They just ran it and let it go.
00:41:00.360 Let him spread his baloney and very divisive, dangerous baloney without calling him out.
00:41:06.260 I'm calling him out on it.
00:41:07.540 He's not going to come on my show.
00:41:09.260 But I mean, it's just ridiculous.
00:41:10.720 So even if they were somehow incinerated then, what's with the anomalies?
00:41:18.180 Are there graves or not?
00:41:20.620 And again, we don't know because nobody will dig them.
00:41:23.920 He also said that we don't know the exact number of victims because of lack of proper record keeping.
00:41:27.620 Again, that's a lie.
00:41:28.960 The records are actually quite clear.
00:41:30.840 They're out there.
00:41:31.740 They're all over the place.
00:41:33.360 And, you know, it just doesn't stop you guys.
00:41:37.840 But we've got to call it out.
00:41:39.080 And we've got to get courageous politicians and media start calling it out.
00:41:44.020 We've got to question the lies.
00:41:45.620 We've got to call them liars when they're lying.
00:41:48.100 I don't care if they happen to be First Nations liars.
00:41:51.100 A lie is a lie.
00:41:52.420 It doesn't matter.
00:41:53.700 City news, a mainstream.
00:41:55.880 And you'll find this on, yeah, you know, the westernstandard.news.
00:41:59.100 We covered it, yeah.
00:42:00.200 Because City News Vancouver put out a tweet with a headline saying this is the anniversary of the 215 unmarked graves.
00:42:07.540 That was the term they used, the language.
00:42:10.300 This is a mainstream media network.
00:42:13.780 No, there's no graves.
00:42:15.720 If it's not a body inside it, it's not a grave.
00:42:18.620 Even the Kamloops band is now saying anomalies at least, but not City News.
00:42:23.800 But they got stung pretty hard when they put it out there.
00:42:27.180 As you say, City News quietly backpedaling, yeah, on the unmarked graves thing.
00:42:30.160 Because people just roasted them.
00:42:32.140 People have had enough.
00:42:33.260 And you know something that's pretty interesting?
00:42:34.420 Because as I said, it was probably two or three months into the whole thing years ago when I finally started questioning it.
00:42:39.620 Like I said, at first I fell for it a bit.
00:42:41.280 Sure, I thought this really happened.
00:42:42.620 And then as we start seeing more and more evidence, this is starting to stink.
00:42:45.620 You know, by the time I got to maybe a year ago, I was like, no, there's no bodies in there.
00:42:48.540 But I used to get lots of pushback on social media online when I'd write columns about that or when I'd talk on my show about that or when I'd tweet about that.
00:42:57.280 People would get furious with me, of course.
00:42:58.760 And they would attack me and they would swing at me.
00:43:00.240 But you know what?
00:43:01.060 I've been ripping into this for the last three days online.
00:43:03.720 And sure, there's always a handful of kooks coming after me.
00:43:05.920 But for the most part, the usual suspects, the left, the rest in the past, silence.
00:43:11.140 They disappeared.
00:43:12.080 You know, Derek, we were talking about that earlier in the office.
00:43:15.160 It's like the Homer Simpson thing where he just kind of slides back in the hedge.
00:43:19.200 Even left-wing activists are kind of realizing that, ooh, geez, I guess there weren't bodies.
00:43:26.440 So they're kind of distancing themselves, getting themselves out of there.
00:43:30.920 City News overstepped.
00:43:32.640 They won't do that again anytime soon.
00:43:33.940 But I don't want this to be something we just quietly don't talk about anymore and sink back into the bush.
00:43:40.780 I want this exposed.
00:43:42.020 I want the fraud exposed.
00:43:43.260 Even if it was not purposeful fraud, it was fraud.
00:43:47.140 The person who did this ground penetrating radar study was an activist.
00:43:52.300 She saw what she wanted to see out of the anomalies.
00:43:55.620 It doesn't mean she wanted to create a hoax.
00:43:57.440 But either way, her blinded ideological push did create the hoax.
00:44:01.300 I want to find out who is blocking the further investigation of this hoax.
00:44:06.220 How and why are they stopping the excavation of these alleged graves?
00:44:10.780 By the way, there's been other spots where they did dig.
00:44:13.820 Not at Kamloops.
00:44:14.740 That's a large part of the reason they don't want to dig in Kamloops, too.
00:44:17.420 Got to admit it.
00:44:18.520 Up in Edmonton, old hospital site, GPR, they were confident.
00:44:22.020 They were buried native remains because there was, you know, oral history.
00:44:25.860 Yeah, it's always that oral history.
00:44:27.400 So they were down there.
00:44:28.160 So this company that wanted to develop, so they hired native elders.
00:44:32.300 They were there with the sweetgrass smoke and the chanting and the whole works while they
00:44:35.880 carefully excavated so they could find these remains.
00:44:38.400 And guess what?
00:44:39.220 31 different spots.
00:44:41.420 No bodies.
00:44:43.260 Manitoba, church basement.
00:44:44.560 Similar situation.
00:44:45.940 Stories and stories and stories of priests burying bodies in the basement.
00:44:49.480 Oh, my God.
00:44:51.060 GPR found anomalies.
00:44:52.960 So, oh, boy, we'll better get in there.
00:44:54.600 And they get the elders and the religious people in and get ready and they excavated.
00:44:57.540 And guess what?
00:44:58.840 Nothing there.
00:45:00.600 So, yeah, you can see why I suspect some of the people in Kamloops in the positions of
00:45:05.920 authority in the band don't really actually want to dig.
00:45:09.740 But where did the $8 million go?
00:45:11.820 I mean, this is a slap in the face to the people who are living in poverty on the reserves.
00:45:16.660 So the people that do have social challenges on the reserves that could have used that money
00:45:20.480 for a heck of a lot of other things then.
00:45:22.220 But I don't think it was spent on any of those.
00:45:24.680 But it wasn't spent.
00:45:25.740 And that's what it was earmarked for, of course, was to find out what was buried on
00:45:29.560 this reserve, if anything.
00:45:30.980 And it wasn't used for that.
00:45:32.020 Why isn't there follow-up?
00:45:33.240 If this was done by anybody else, if this was somebody with a private consulting business,
00:45:37.000 oh, wait, they did do that with the Rive Can app.
00:45:39.560 Yeah, this is done in other areas.
00:45:41.520 But at least there is some investigation.
00:45:42.780 They're trying.
00:45:44.060 You know they won't even question the Kamloops ban.
00:45:46.580 In fact, I wouldn't be shocked if they tossed them more money after this.
00:45:51.560 Because if you can keep this hoax going, this is a government that just prefers to throw
00:45:54.800 money at things rather than take them on for real.
00:45:58.260 Problematic.
00:45:58.780 The story is not going away.
00:46:00.260 I'm not going to let it go away until we get answers on this.
00:46:03.760 And there's others.
00:46:04.380 There's more voices that are starting to speak up on this now, even if others are just going
00:46:08.240 silent.
00:46:08.660 But at least they're not continuing to claim this ridiculous hoax that 200 children were
00:46:13.700 murdered and buried at the Kamloops site.
00:46:17.540 Speaking of hoaxes, here's another fun one.
00:46:19.100 We'll see.
00:46:19.520 This one I might eat my words with yet.
00:46:21.240 But some people got mad at me because I said the drought was over.
00:46:23.380 And in fact, a hydrologist came on the radio the other day and said the drought was over
00:46:26.120 in southern Alberta.
00:46:26.800 Anyway.
00:46:27.640 And I showed the weather network was predicting in January, we're going to be in for a hot,
00:46:31.700 hot, dry summer.
00:46:32.540 The drought's going to just be terrible.
00:46:34.400 And Calgary's going to be like a desert.
00:46:35.820 And, oh, it's over and the reservoirs are full and everything else.
00:46:38.240 Well, the weather network is still doubling down, predicting now, though, it's going to
00:46:41.300 be above normal temperatures, hot, dry all summer.
00:46:44.400 So let's see how it looks by September.
00:46:45.940 I hope they're wrong, but I don't know.
00:46:47.920 I think they're guessing.
00:46:50.200 If it's more than two or three weeks out, it's just a guess.
00:46:52.660 All right.
00:46:53.440 Either way, that's the time I've got for today, guys.
00:46:55.800 Like I said, remember, don't forget to get out there, get Andrew Lawton's book.
00:46:59.100 It'll be a great read and tell you a lot more about Mr. Polyev.
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